Speaker 1: And we are so very much back and is the
Speaker 1: Lapsed Fan Wrestling Podcast. It is e c W Living Dangerously,
Speaker 1: March twelfth.
Speaker 2: To rather you know what? You know what, Honestly, I'd
Speaker 2: rather die peacefully.
Speaker 1: Okay, if only we could decide these things. Oh, motherfucker
Speaker 1: O'Neil Center, Danbury, Connecticut, March twelve, two thousand, about five
Speaker 1: thousand in attendance, and we're here with bells.
Speaker 2: On, yeah, like emergency bells or whatever, Belle bell palsy. Maybe.
Speaker 1: Oh well, well we'll get there probably if you give
Speaker 1: some of this roster a few more years. But there
Speaker 1: was a dark match, Mike, you reprectif you pipull number one?
Speaker 2: What's so? Why were there more than one pit bulls?
Speaker 2: They were at tag team and they couldn't have their
Speaker 2: own name. They couldn't No, I mean they had number
Speaker 2: one Anthony Duranty. They did have their names, but that's
Speaker 2: pile tile one was the one.
Speaker 1: I forget James Vandenberg involved in the he only appears
Speaker 1: it's're about to talk about in the opening scene, sort
Speaker 1: of like your narrator of the pay per.
Speaker 2: View, would you like to hear that bullshit again?
Speaker 1: We're about to get right to it. So just just
Speaker 1: to point out, Oh, yeah, well, it's sort of strange
Speaker 1: that he only appears and sort of like this pre
Speaker 1: taped thing and he had yet. Yeah, why is that
Speaker 1: you didn't have a name yet.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess that's just the role Paul saw for him.
Speaker 2: He just doesn't, you know, It's it's he's one of
Speaker 2: those guys where the voice does not match the look.
Speaker 1: Interesting, like he needs to have a satanic.
Speaker 2: Dark and yeah, and foreboding, you know, like they could
Speaker 2: have even just done Doctor Dreams.
Speaker 1: What's this James Vandenburg?
Speaker 2: Oh Dreams film?
Speaker 1: Was he staying in?
Speaker 2: Ww? Yes? Pretty much.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: He did appear before the people as part of the opening.
Speaker 2: Anytime anytime, Crow, Look, that's that's Sting distracted the referee.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you guys, that's Sting.
Speaker 1: That's him. Well, let's hear it. Go ahead, this is
Speaker 1: the opening show, all right, Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 4: For today's sermon, we're going to discuss ECW's seven Deadly sins.
Speaker 4: At the top of the list, we have greed and
Speaker 4: the insane luchador, super crazy, a man so selfish he
Speaker 4: dared to defy the network in his quest for the
Speaker 4: world television title.
Speaker 1: Next we have.
Speaker 4: Vanity, which brings to mind the impact players executive Jezebel
Speaker 4: Don Marie. But if ever Vanity were justified. Number three
Speaker 4: is gluttony. Let's just say big Sally Graziano gives new
Speaker 4: meaning to the phrase devouring the competition. Number four war
Speaker 4: is sloth, and that poor lost soul Raven, who's taking
Speaker 4: this whole slacker business just a tad too seriously, Hey Scottie,
Speaker 4: it's a gimmick. Next we have wrath. Been there, done that, Please,
Speaker 4: let's move on. Envy the American Dream. Dusty Rhodes is
Speaker 4: so jealous of the old school hero Steve Corino's youthfulness
Speaker 4: that it makes me want to vomit. And finally we
Speaker 4: come to my favorite sin of all, lust. Francine wants
Speaker 4: my Raven in the worst kind of way.
Speaker 2: After all, he's no dreamer. Let's just say that it's
Speaker 2: going to.
Speaker 4: Be one hell of a show, and any company that
Speaker 4: dares to compete with an ECW pay per view is
Speaker 4: going to be living dangerously.
Speaker 2: Just keep going.
Speaker 1: I mean, I get a little bit of an evil tackle,
Speaker 1: But why does he laugh that much? I know what?
Speaker 2: Why Why didn't they you know, I guess, I guess
Speaker 2: because the show is running short.
Speaker 1: Maybe already what evil plan is he going to hatch?
Speaker 1: It doesn't even show up.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, also, like, did is that his
Speaker 2: real voice or was he trying to do a bad
Speaker 2: imitation of John Ritter?
Speaker 1: I think he is. That's kind of his real voice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's annoying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to say, hey, Scotti, it's a gimmick.
Speaker 1: I could say the same thing to James vann Burgh.
Speaker 2: Damn, come on, Jesus Fri.
Speaker 1: You don't have a problem with the fingernails or the eyebrows,
Speaker 1: do you.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it was I never it's it's it's yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what to say about it.
Speaker 2: I mean he looks like a like a demon. I
Speaker 2: don't know. Is that way he really goes around? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what he does.
Speaker 1: I think you can really like gel in the eyebrows
Speaker 1: for the cameras. I don't think it looks like that
Speaker 1: all the time. I mean, it's a look. It's a look.
Speaker 1: It is, I'll give it to He does a lot
Speaker 1: of the closing of the fingers so you can see
Speaker 1: the nails, you know, like pinky, then to ring finger.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's never been my thing. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to judge somebody on their appearance like that. That's
Speaker 2: a choice. Your face, your face. You have no choice.
Speaker 2: And so we go after Oh, exactly exactly, we have
Speaker 2: no choice. I'm gonna I'm gonna fucking tear your to bits,
Speaker 2: but you have a choice. I respect it totally. The
Speaker 2: idea that w C. W. Reed was named after it.
Speaker 1: You know, the sins? Yeah, that's that's from right here.
Speaker 2: I mean he.
Speaker 1: Probably brought that idea over to w CW. Yeah, Dusty Broa, Yeah,
Speaker 1: to w he didn't mention the most important one though.
Speaker 1: It's not lust, it's not sloth, it's serendipity.
Speaker 2: There we go.
Speaker 1: Is that because we just talked about greed, We just
Speaker 1: talked about these themes.
Speaker 2: Yes indeed, yes, indeed, I didn't know serendipity was was
Speaker 2: a sin.
Speaker 1: Well that's news after ten years of this ship.
Speaker 2: That's good, Flint.
Speaker 1: And if you're wondering, as he cackles, guess he does
Speaker 1: love who's a walking cane and jerk it off?
Speaker 2: I fucking am. I mean, look, I'll tell you what
Speaker 2: I'll take. I'll take Vandenberg, Hindenburg, whatever the fuck his
Speaker 2: name is, over over that goofball Fatty ends up in
Speaker 2: the ring. Piece of ship.
Speaker 1: I'll take James Vandenburg over James Vanderbeek myself. So they dissolve,
Speaker 1: as you heard there, into the rabid attitude era of
Speaker 1: male energy. Oh yes, of an ECW building channing Joey
Speaker 1: Joey from the Niel Center and Danbury and you can
Speaker 1: even hear one. You can hear like the countdown yep, yep.
Speaker 1: As they try to get the fans to pop at
Speaker 1: the right moment but miss the queue. Joey stalls in
Speaker 1: the ring, missing the queue. That seems to be like
Speaker 1: an e c W trope. Yeah, pretty much. They missed
Speaker 1: more than the que sometimes they missed the point. But
Speaker 1: acclaimed hardcore revolution is in the corner, so they're presenting
Speaker 1: sponsor e C DUB Chance on order. There is a
Speaker 1: sign that says McDonald's to serve you faster, please use
Speaker 1: dollar bills only. Let's make the change. So someone took
Speaker 1: a McDonald's sign and brought it to the building, which is.
Speaker 2: Great, Okay, I don't okay, like an actual mcdonald' sign.
Speaker 2: Someone took away Okay.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was Jill Gertner that brought it.
Speaker 2: Oh, I listen, I'm sure if he didn't, if he
Speaker 2: didn't do it himself, he endorsed it, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: And got interestly on the canvas. You've got one guy's
Speaker 1: an Atlas security sign in the crowd, which of course was.
Speaker 2: The well known actually Girtner himself, living dangerously with that
Speaker 2: fucking size.
Speaker 1: Living dangerously. I also notice what Girtner's doctor reported when
Speaker 1: he came back with the labs. I'm Joey Styles and
Speaker 1: he's got the flat top and yeah yeah, and there
Speaker 1: is next to him the quintessential stud moment.
Speaker 2: Oh, here here's his fucking horseship. I mean, it's like
Speaker 2: it's like I I I didn't want to give him
Speaker 2: the satisfaction of of like highlighting this piece of ship,
Speaker 2: but I couldn't not do it because it's so fucking
Speaker 2: annoying and it makes me so gross.
Speaker 1: But here here's he didn't want to give satisfaction to
Speaker 1: that piece of shit. But what it came down to
Speaker 1: one evening with his mom. You better believe I hit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I believe that I'm down with that.
Speaker 2: Whoa whoa sounds like the fucking uh oogie boogieman and
Speaker 2: uh in a nightmab for Christmas? Well, well, well what
Speaker 2: have we here?
Speaker 5: It is I the quintessential stun muffin Joel. This girl,
Speaker 5: I know wanted to see the show live here in
Speaker 5: Conet ticket, so I told her to bend over and
Speaker 5: I'd show her where I'd stick it. For forty five
Speaker 5: minutes she proceeded to.
Speaker 6: Tease and please and lick it.
Speaker 5: But when all was said and done, you know, I
Speaker 5: made her buy a ticket.
Speaker 4: Kurt, Nor.
Speaker 2: Are you not entertained? I mean it's just like it's
Speaker 2: so you know, twenty what is it? Yeah, twenty four
Speaker 2: years later it's just so gross, you know, like not
Speaker 2: only just him saying no, it's the reaction to it,
Speaker 2: but the reaction to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it's like, yeah, you made a fucking dick, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like a real man.
Speaker 2: Like it's like it's so vile, so uh and I
Speaker 2: mean you know it's it's I'm I'm sure that it's
Speaker 2: even like triple triple bad for you know, me being
Speaker 2: a girl, dad and all, but like it's just so gross.
Speaker 2: It's like I never want to fucking witness that again. Listen,
Speaker 2: I'm guilty as charge for like probably you know, having
Speaker 2: a similar reaction at some point at any event or
Speaker 2: venue or whatever in the late nineties, early two thousands.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm like holier than now at all.
Speaker 2: Uh uh. You know I've had my my my choice
Speaker 2: encounters without a doubt. But you know, maturity, I guess
Speaker 2: who would have funked that? Well, I'm sure guilty is charged,
Speaker 2: but this is living dangerously good point. I just want
Speaker 2: to get you back on the rails. Sorry. You know what,
Speaker 2: all these ec W shows are all one and the same.
Speaker 2: To me, they all suck.
Speaker 1: I always thought that w W E c W should
Speaker 1: have done a show called Innocent is Charged.
Speaker 2: That's funny.
Speaker 1: I think Vince would have gotten behind that.
Speaker 2: One big fan of that. So innocent until proven guilty
Speaker 2: of charge.
Speaker 1: I mean there are people, well not w W E c.
Speaker 2: W Innocent until proven guilty of charge?
Speaker 1: Oh man, And I wish the mattitude that it's it's
Speaker 1: amazing what people wanted to hear.
Speaker 2: What people attitude is? Matt Hardy here, Well, this.
Speaker 1: Guy with the back yard T shirt in the front row,
Speaker 1: little kids and teenagers amongst the attendees and suddenly didn't
Speaker 1: excuse me.
Speaker 2: That's the way I thought it was Vicky Guerrero.
Speaker 1: It is not. It is Cyrus, that virus god just
Speaker 1: a fucking aw. Doesn't have crowd striker. Maybe they do here.
Speaker 1: It comes.
Speaker 2: I can't with him. He's such a fucking he's such
Speaker 2: a a like, he's a he's cancer to the eyes.
Speaker 1: I think he has a lanyard on with a living
Speaker 1: Dangerously logo has crossed out and says TNN in its place,
Speaker 1: and they chant you suck dick at the man.
Speaker 2: He's one of those people who like if he if
Speaker 2: he leans, if he kind of like leans his like
Speaker 2: kind of pushes his head back too far, his chin
Speaker 2: disappears and his mouth just becomes part of his neck.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know, yeahs a category of facial and neck architecture.
Speaker 2: Yes, And I can't stand it. It is unacceptable.
Speaker 1: It's a combination that not everybody is ready to countenance.
Speaker 1: I understand.
Speaker 2: And honestly, you need to have like they need to
Speaker 2: create like a pen or something some kind of little
Speaker 2: or like like a Fort Knox facility where they just
Speaker 2: store people like that.
Speaker 1: Joel looks scared to see the network man, and he screams,
Speaker 1: I'm network empty and I'm sorry, don callising im network
Speaker 1: is funny.
Speaker 2: Like, I'll tell you what, listen, I'll I'll be honest
Speaker 2: here all right. As much as I fucking hate Don Kallos,
Speaker 2: I mean he is like a callous on my foot,
Speaker 2: I he's funny. He's got some funny moments here. Some
Speaker 2: some they're funny because they're so stupid and annoying. So
Speaker 2: you know, he's got.
Speaker 1: This like blank up in his face. Sometimes it's just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and I think that's a legit thing.
Speaker 2: I think that's that's he just doesn't understand. He doesn't
Speaker 2: know where he is at any moment of time.
Speaker 1: It's funny when like he screamed at Joey Styles for
Speaker 1: trying to get himself over on the broadcast. Yeah yes,
Speaker 1: I mean, like, why are you even saying that there's one?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's it's for later. But I don't
Speaker 2: fucking care when he does this, this fucking pop me.
Speaker 1: Right, he's got a vagod fun of the industry terms
Speaker 1: and everything fucking is this hot tag? Like what the
Speaker 1: fuck you see? Girtner? That type of lacidious, disgusting behavior
Speaker 1: is exactly what we the network don't like. He tells Girtner.
Speaker 1: It's bad enough that we have to put up every
Speaker 1: week with you on TNN, but of course you'd deliver
Speaker 1: that all important eighteen to thirty four year old gay
Speaker 1: male demographics. So we have to have you out here.
Speaker 1: Chan fuck you, Cyrus, And he says, I suggest you
Speaker 1: go back to whatever drive through you hit on the
Speaker 1: way over here. They're like three or four uh and
Speaker 1: uh oh, I'd.
Speaker 2: Probably you know, no, no, come on, well know they're
Speaker 2: in Danbury, so Bell he might have gone to Uh,
Speaker 2: I might have gone to Pepe's Pizza.
Speaker 1: Probably probably Denny's. Least w guys like Denny's. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a Denny's near an armory that I used
Speaker 1: to go to their shows at where you could really
Speaker 1: see the guys after the show. Wow, it's like walking distance.
Speaker 1: You could see the bright lights. Beckoning of Denny's and
Speaker 1: Rhino said in a shoot interview one time that when
Speaker 1: they kind of you know, when Tommy Dreamer gently suggested
Speaker 1: that he lose some weight, he says, all right, fine,
Speaker 1: Instead of four Denny's peanut butter pies a week, I'll
Speaker 1: have three. Hey, that that could make a difference, and
Speaker 1: Sarah says, make your way over there and let the
Speaker 1: greatest color commentator in all of wrestling handle his pay
Speaker 1: per view. Oh my god, and Girdner come a collaps back, Cyrus.
Speaker 1: What you don't understand is this is n c W
Speaker 1: pay per view production. They pop for that. Imagine popping
Speaker 1: for someone saying this is on pay per view, not
Speaker 1: television to where we were. It's not, he says, a
Speaker 1: TNN network production, which means I don't have to watch
Speaker 1: my mouth quite so much, asshole. So now he's like
Speaker 1: turning the tables. Cyrus never realized he doesn't have jurisdiction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what what did he I mean, it's
Speaker 2: a good point, like why is he even there?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Well, why is he oblivious to the fact that he
Speaker 1: has no power? That's the question?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that I can understand he's oblivious to
Speaker 2: most things. Is it?
Speaker 1: This is so going to be a Netflix like when
Speaker 1: raws on Netflix, They're going to make constant reference to
Speaker 1: wor on Netflix. Pal, I can see set saying it
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: I can say suck my asshole.
Speaker 1: You can say, ah you want, but were on Netflix now? Oh,
Speaker 1: which means I'll say something about your mom or something. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: and you have absolutely no jurisdiction tells him. So why
Speaker 1: don't you get to step in and leave unto them
Speaker 1: what you try to do on pay per view?
Speaker 2: Oh so poorly? Why don't you get to step in?
Speaker 2: That's a phrase that's kind of lost.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't hear that anymore. Do you talk to
Speaker 1: the hand. You don't hear that one anymore.
Speaker 2: No, no good, I'm glad about that, right, But I
Speaker 2: kick the step and I always, you know, I always,
Speaker 2: I always think of of Sean michaels in ninety nine's
Speaker 2: and get to step in and hit the bricks.
Speaker 7: McMahon in like a cream colored suit, yeah right, yeah right,
Speaker 7: the cream colored jacket and like a red T shirt
Speaker 7: and tucked in the black killed up.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. It's the it's the no mercy look. Actually,
Speaker 2: you know they have that look that he has in
Speaker 2: No Mercy. It's that exact look where he's the funniest age.
Speaker 2: BK is definitely nineteen ninety nine commissioner. Oh, absolutely no
Speaker 2: question about.
Speaker 1: It, Like what is he even doing here? And at
Speaker 1: one point they zoom in on Sarrus's lanyard, which is funny,
Speaker 1: and Joel said, I tried to be network about that.
Speaker 1: He says, Joel, I try to be network about this.
Speaker 1: I try to be a gentleman. Let me put this
Speaker 1: terminology in terminology that you can understand. Get your fat
Speaker 1: ass out of here, or I'm going to beat your
Speaker 1: ass right here in pay per view. I don't understand
Speaker 1: what it was what was so appealing about Joel Gertner.
Speaker 1: He had those really clever sexual double entendre promos.
Speaker 2: Are they Are they clever?
Speaker 8: Though?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: They were pretty clever. He had a pretty deep reservoir.
Speaker 1: He would have a new one every single show, and
Speaker 1: the fans really wanted to hear what one he was
Speaker 1: gonna lay on in that time.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think what he said was clever.
Speaker 2: Oh maybe this wasn't his best one. Is there a
Speaker 2: best one? Not that I know of, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Fans are getting rabbit at the prospect of these two
Speaker 1: mixing it up. Fuck him up, Gartner, they chant, Joey,
Speaker 1: begging them not to mix it up. Cyrus's get out
Speaker 1: of here. I'll beat the crap out of that fat bastard.
Speaker 1: You wanted to go now? And they pop, we'll do
Speaker 1: it now, and he takes the hanky off his neck,
Speaker 1: which is great, and then Style suddenly goes from let's
Speaker 1: not fight to get him Joel Sararen says, listen, Joe,
Speaker 1: I don't want to fight. He starts backing off with
Speaker 1: a bitch. He says, Joel, I hate violence. I didn't
Speaker 1: know you'd get that hot about it. If it means
Speaker 1: that much to you, you did the pay per view
Speaker 1: and commentary, I'll just leave. It's like, what do you
Speaker 1: mean you hate You just told them.
Speaker 2: You're gonna kick his ass, But you both go make
Speaker 2: my life happier.
Speaker 1: Then Joel does the baby whwey arm shake that he
Speaker 1: used to do, or like you hold the elbow stiff
Speaker 1: and just wave the wrists, and then Cyrus super kicks
Speaker 1: him and mounts him and starts beating him up. They're
Speaker 1: rolling around on the mat and then Joey Styles basically
Speaker 1: does a back take on Cyrus like he's rolled around.
Speaker 1: He takes his back as they roll around like they're
Speaker 1: training to submit each other.
Speaker 2: You want to know, you want to know how much
Speaker 2: I cared about this whole thing that happened.
Speaker 1: Are you talking about it?
Speaker 2: On Stan I'm gonna tell you based on my notes here,
Speaker 2: so I have I have the Cyrus coming down, and
Speaker 2: then nothing, nothing, nothing, And then I wrote, there's a
Speaker 2: breakdown of civility between everyone. That's what I fucking wrote.
Speaker 2: I didn't give a shit.
Speaker 1: That's that's a very succinct submary of what we just
Speaker 1: saw trying to peel the guys off each other in
Speaker 1: the crowd pops and then rolling around wrestling and we
Speaker 1: fight out and we get the ECW logo and.
Speaker 2: Again, you know, you know, nothing like getting fucking h
Speaker 2: non wrestling entities to be the focus.
Speaker 1: What the deal was there? I mean, I guess you know,
Speaker 1: Cyrus is going to be kind of a through line
Speaker 1: through the show, but I don't know, they were kind
Speaker 1: of I don't know, they were kind of reaching for
Speaker 1: easy things. I feel like at this point, Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of things, a lot of fun put into them.
Speaker 2: This whole thing, I mean, like I said, this whole
Speaker 2: fucking again, I don't know how this played out on TV.
Speaker 2: I have no fucking clue, but this seems so phony
Speaker 2: and forced and so goofy that I was just I
Speaker 2: just I couldn't stand it. Yeah, it seems it just
Speaker 2: seemed like like, uh, like little babies whining and you know,
Speaker 2: like taking it out on on TV where you know,
Speaker 2: in a weird way. They you know, TNN can't do
Speaker 2: much without really looking.
Speaker 1: Bad subjecting us all to it. Yeah, right, and it
Speaker 1: just sucks. So get THECW LOADO from the TNN das
Speaker 1: where like the wrestling glows and it's like purple and
Speaker 1: reddish and pink instead of just.
Speaker 2: The old U cool, what are you doing? It's cool,
Speaker 2: very cool.
Speaker 1: So cool invested in graphic and a graphics Sophomarell.
Speaker 2: That's where their whole marketing budget went to. Perhaps the
Speaker 2: graphic we.
Speaker 1: Get all the you know who, all the clips of
Speaker 1: people getting chairs thrown at them and all that. The
Speaker 1: Sandman's aforementioned returned to TNN is in this highlight reel.
Speaker 1: It's a really long, kind of dragged out series of clips.
Speaker 1: To start the show. They show super Crazy Moon salting
Speaker 1: off a balcony, Dusty cooking on Carino Frenzy and doing
Speaker 1: a Bronco buster, and White Neglige Raven hung up like
Speaker 1: a crucifix of your handcuffs in the island getting caned.
Speaker 1: We even catch a glimpse of Eric Watts, who actually
Speaker 1: had a cup of coffee and.
Speaker 2: Cock That's hilarious. Yep, I had no clue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was kind of aligned with Steve Creno's group
Speaker 1: for a very short period of time. We have Kreno
Speaker 1: putting on Dusty's hat and Spike beating Eric Watts, and
Speaker 1: they even showed Corino very briefly on stage with Fred
Speaker 1: Durst Olympus get angle. We mentioned if you want to
Speaker 1: see a bit of that, and then awesome power bombing
Speaker 1: everyone through tables and we ended with Joey Styles going
Speaker 1: it's extreme. And when we come back to the building,
Speaker 1: Steve Krena was in there with a cowboy had along
Speaker 1: with his handler Jack.
Speaker 2: Victory Jack Victory jack O. God, you know, I I
Speaker 2: forget he exists until we do an easy w show
Speaker 2: and there's that big dufus.
Speaker 1: He's such a fucking He's a funny guy.
Speaker 2: He's such like a a hanger on or type you know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's such a such a moron.
Speaker 1: Just wants the party to keep going. Yeah that's how
Speaker 1: Krino described him. So you know, he's a guy like
Speaker 1: he'd actually like insist that you get up early. And
Speaker 1: go sight seeing in the city you were in, instead
Speaker 1: of just sitting in the hotel till it was time
Speaker 1: to go to the building. He just wanted to drink
Speaker 1: it all in Jacko victory.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, hey, that's smart, you know, because he
Speaker 2: probably knew it was short Yep, it was a short lived.
Speaker 1: That it doesn't long enough to know that this will end.
Speaker 2: Sooner than later. Where's he? Now? What's he doing?
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I don't know what he's doing anymore?
Speaker 2: Shouldly not taking another victory? Laugh?
Speaker 1: Say that again? I damn Connecticut, the millions watching at home.
Speaker 1: I don't about millions.
Speaker 2: Oh here, and I got I think I have this whole,
Speaker 2: this whole fucking thing of of Kreno.
Speaker 6: They're Bury, Connecticut and millions watching it home on pay
Speaker 6: per view television. Tonight the old school hero Steve Cornet history.
Speaker 1: After some audio is bleeding into the broadcast.
Speaker 6: For myself tonight, I was, can I see here's a
Speaker 6: bunch of drunk.
Speaker 2: That's a kind of a hickpop.
Speaker 6: Sexual deviant.
Speaker 2: Douche bags.
Speaker 1: I don't call this drunk sexual gigglings costers o housters.
Speaker 6: God, Oh wait a second, I see the biggest duche
Speaker 6: bag of them all, lazy gentlemen, the sand Man's wife's
Speaker 6: many cod boots bag a bust. This is an honor
Speaker 6: and a privilege to finally see you face to face, Laurie.
Speaker 6: You know I've heard all the stories. I mean, you
Speaker 6: are a hardcore icon in the easy w locker room.
Speaker 2: Honey.
Speaker 6: You had more of the wrestlers than Dusty Rhodes has
Speaker 6: had matches.
Speaker 2: That was kind of I mean, he had the opportunity
Speaker 2: to say a really funny food joke, and he just
Speaker 2: he dropped the ball. You know, he should have said
Speaker 2: something about at least burritos. Yeah, agreed, hadn't happened yet
Speaker 2: though I know, I know, but still at least say
Speaker 2: burritos or something like that, some food reference in matches.
Speaker 2: Who fucking cares? That's stupid, honey.
Speaker 6: Remember Raven No, the guy you left your husband for. No,
Speaker 6: that was no angle. I haven't a good authority that
Speaker 6: he was giving it to you in the bathroom. Hey,
Speaker 6: old bastard, while you shut up. The Sandman's not even
Speaker 6: your real dad.
Speaker 1: And I got to qu think of you because one
Speaker 1: thing that I didn't appreciate until I watched The Dark
Speaker 1: side Sandman episode was basically they coached Tyler Fullington, Sandman's son,
Speaker 1: who participated in the angle that Steve Crenell was referencing
Speaker 1: here when he was like eight years old, six, six
Speaker 1: years old or something five. I think even all they
Speaker 1: said to him was, look, listen, just make a face
Speaker 1: in the mirror like you're mad, like someone just I
Speaker 1: don't know how they phrased it, like someone just took
Speaker 1: your toy away, you know that pouting like serious friend,
Speaker 1: and just never ever lose that face. And I'll be
Speaker 1: damned if that kid didn't look like he was completely
Speaker 1: possessed in every vignette they put him in with Raven.
Speaker 1: It was creepy. Such a stroke of genius to tell
Speaker 1: a kid who you know is not going to be
Speaker 1: able to take great direction from a stage management standpoint. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he puts that face right back on now that
Speaker 1: he's like basically a teenager and Steve Creno's targetting him.
Speaker 1: So hats off to Tallis Fallington for yeah, for dialing
Speaker 1: it in and showing discipline on camera. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: never seen I don't think you've ever seen a kid
Speaker 1: be as good. Besides like Domastereo and the Eddie Ray
Speaker 1: match and O five. I think you've ever seen a
Speaker 1: kid do as well from an uh you know, holding
Speaker 1: his role on a Gressling TV show.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. Good for him. We'll finish it up here.
Speaker 6: One you haven't put over yet, So why don't you
Speaker 6: put me over live on paper view?
Speaker 9: You wore.
Speaker 4: You?
Speaker 1: That's every The end of every sentence is nonna.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so whiny.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. He's got the voice for it, man,
Speaker 1: he really does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I tug it. I mean he's good, good, good,
Speaker 2: good delivery for sure.
Speaker 1: So that's that what he calls her a war yep,
Speaker 1: because then she gets up in her jeans and slaps him,
Speaker 1: and he grabs her by the head and drags her
Speaker 1: over the rail. That's e c W four you grabbing
Speaker 1: a woman by the hair, of course, and loads her
Speaker 1: into the ring. She swings at him, but Jack Victory
Speaker 1: grabs her, and then Rhino gets in the ring too,
Speaker 1: Quino's buddy. And then Quarea grabs the mic and says,
Speaker 1: come on, Laurie, you know you want it. Do you
Speaker 1: think Sandman's got a big one? You haven't seen anything yet,
Speaker 1: and he starts swelling his hips and he's gonna take
Speaker 1: his dick out here at living dangerously and then Sandman
Speaker 1: hits the ring.
Speaker 2: It's so stupid. The e c W ring.
Speaker 1: We can't you can't empasize enough. You've got what do
Speaker 1: we have boss in this era? The WWR ring, yeah,
Speaker 1: the WCW ring yeah, and the e c W ring.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like fucking She's like a drive by shootings.
Speaker 1: So Sandman hits the ring, we get the rattling, and
Speaker 1: then he hits Carina from behind. Rhino cuts him off
Speaker 1: and pile drives Sandman, and then Jack Victory peels Lourie
Speaker 1: off of his own back and she takes a bump
Speaker 1: on the canvas. Then Rhino absolutely kills Laurie Fullington with
Speaker 1: a spear through a table that's bridged up in the corner,
Speaker 1: and he fucking kills her.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that, uh, I'm glad that that Samon gave
Speaker 2: so much, really cared about this this angle so much
Speaker 2: that he well didn't fucking remember anything.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that ECW chant that was always so weird.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like when you chant e c W, like you're
Speaker 1: taking yourself out of the angle because you're saying like that,
Speaker 1: yeah right, this is the company just gave us a
Speaker 1: holy shit moment instead of look what Rhino just did
Speaker 1: to LORI.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right right.
Speaker 1: And it really stood under this one because there's certain
Speaker 1: fans like I get, like, when a wrestler does a
Speaker 1: big stunt in the middle of his match, you can
Speaker 1: chant a ECW because it's like, wow, ECW allowed that
Speaker 1: wrestler to do that without any qualms. But when it's
Speaker 1: a heat angle in you chant e c W, it's
Speaker 1: kind of weird. It's like, no, this was supposed to
Speaker 1: be more serious than like a table mump in the
Speaker 1: middle of a of a match, you know.
Speaker 2: I yeah, I don't, I really don't. I've never been
Speaker 2: a fan. Yeah, I mean it's this is that this
Speaker 2: is one that all kind of really started when you
Speaker 2: started recognizing the cump oh yeah, as opposed to, you know,
Speaker 2: really getting invested in the stories.
Speaker 1: So Sandman covers his wife on the ground as Atlas
Speaker 1: Security hits the ring try to stop this chaos. Joey
Speaker 1: Styles doesn't even over're on the year. He's saying, are
Speaker 1: we on? Are you done striking people? First of all,
Speaker 1: and Sarrus says, this is beyond the bounds of even
Speaker 1: what I find entertaining. We show the Sandman emotional, still
Speaker 1: hovering over his wife. Sarah says, why would she strike
Speaker 1: a wrestler and immediately starts trying to place the blame
Speaker 1: on her for what just took place.
Speaker 2: Well, she's a woman, after all.
Speaker 1: Styles comes back with a quit being a heel, and
Speaker 1: Sarah says, I'm being a realist. We can't have fans
Speaker 1: with hands on wrestlers. He's a heel. He he provokes fans.
Speaker 1: That's what that Steve Creno does. And she struck him.
Speaker 1: Are you trying to say, Joey Styles that she bears
Speaker 1: no responsibility whatsoever? He's hearing this straight face.
Speaker 2: It's pretty Joey Styles that that this is all fake,
Speaker 2: calling him a heel, right and making me say he's
Speaker 2: a heel to get a rise out of the audience.
Speaker 1: Let me read this again. Okay, she struck him. You're
Speaker 1: trying to say she bears no responsibility. Okay, let me see.
Speaker 1: Are you trying to say she bears no responsibility whatsoever?
Speaker 1: Is this Cyrus is a dialogue on this show or
Speaker 1: is it a transcript of his t NA exit interview?
Speaker 1: So Laurie's crying and holding her head but moving around,
Speaker 1: and of course he shouldn't be moving her because she
Speaker 1: may have snapped her neck and half tossing her all about, right,
Speaker 1: but it's fake, so it's okay, and carries her away.
Speaker 1: Finally he yells.
Speaker 2: Out he's doing that. He yells, where's my kids?
Speaker 1: Where's my kids?
Speaker 2: It was fucking Popeye. Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: That's every morning he says that he is Popeye.
Speaker 2: Ask, yeah, there's a pop there's a Popeye, uh way
Speaker 2: about him?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's There are also a lot of Popeyes in
Speaker 1: the locker room. But that's just Dusty's dinner.
Speaker 2: His pre his warm up meal for the pre match.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Laurie, Laurie Fullington, the ultimate Philly wife with
Speaker 1: her jeans and Doc Martins and tight top and red hair.
Speaker 2: Bless her heart.
Speaker 1: She was like, so she was so into it when
Speaker 1: it was happening, but looking back on it on that
Speaker 1: Dark Side episode, oh my god, Like she's like she
Speaker 1: cringes at what she found herself doing.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean it's awful, it's dreadful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was wild because they were when Raven kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, brainwashed her to come over to his side
Speaker 1: and took the sun. They had to keep that cafe
Speaker 1: up in n CW. That wasn't easy because everybody was
Speaker 1: kind of like smart about where the wrestlers would go
Speaker 1: after the show, and they'd follow you and everything, and
Speaker 1: you never knew where you'd find an ECW fan after
Speaker 1: the show. But they couldn't ride together even though they
Speaker 1: were a family, so they'd drive like hours of hours
Speaker 1: miles away to a gas station and hope no fans saw.
Speaker 2: You know, Paul, if you gave a suggestion, I think
Speaker 2: what you should do is have you know, Raven take
Speaker 2: Sandman's wife away, you know, and what you should do,
Speaker 2: because what do you do is extreme HAVM fuck her
Speaker 2: on TV pure, you know. And then this is what
Speaker 2: I had to do. You break up the marriage. You
Speaker 2: can laugh at it because you have power over them
Speaker 2: that they can't have. I've broken many relationships, yep, and
Speaker 2: I'm proud of it. I think you should do this.
Speaker 2: I think missus Sandman should should you know, get a
Speaker 2: taste of the Raven.
Speaker 1: I think one man should exit light and enter night.
Speaker 2: But look, that's a that's a place.
Speaker 1: I'm shocked that these guys are even like XPW didn't go.
Speaker 1: It's like as everyone was trying to up the runch
Speaker 1: in this era, like come on, like paper, no one
Speaker 1: appreciates how much money porn can make. That a pay
Speaker 1: per view company right now, Like imagine if like in
Speaker 1: the middle of that angle, they said, like available exclusively
Speaker 1: on pay per view, We're going to unveil a tape
Speaker 1: that Raven has supplied us of him fornicating with Lori Fullington. Honestly,
Speaker 1: that would so many buys. It's not even funny.
Speaker 2: You know. It always surprised me, especially, Yeah, like you
Speaker 2: said in this era that we didn't really have more
Speaker 2: more really extreme nudity and sexual content.
Speaker 1: Yep, because I always especially when I got on pay
Speaker 1: per view, Yep, exactly what I mean.
Speaker 2: Pay per view is what I mean, Like like why
Speaker 2: there wasn't more of that on pay per view in
Speaker 2: any of the companies.
Speaker 1: It's while that WWF show tits on pay per view
Speaker 1: and ECW never did yep.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So Samman carries her away and yeah, like you said,
Speaker 1: where my kid's at? He walks her to the back
Speaker 1: through the brick wall opening, and you know you wonder
Speaker 1: watching this show because it was supposed to be Sandman
Speaker 1: versus Rhino on the show in a match in the
Speaker 1: next round of the television title tournament, which is to
Speaker 1: conclude this pay per view and crown a new champion.
Speaker 1: Why they didn't deliver the match? Why they have to
Speaker 1: do this whole angle? It just reeks of it. There's
Speaker 1: got to be a story here. We all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: we're doing this red hot like heat angle with the
Speaker 1: Steve Carno, who really didn't have as far as I recall,
Speaker 1: much interaction with the Sandman prior to this, and didn't
Speaker 1: really have a lot of a reason to be very
Speaker 1: animated about his wife and to target her. It's like,
Speaker 1: what are they trying to misdirect here? Why couldn't they
Speaker 1: write that? So we thought, wow, there's got to be
Speaker 1: a story here. So we reached out to the Sandman
Speaker 1: on Cameo, didn't we We did, indeed, and props to
Speaker 1: Zach who well, as we're as we'll disclosed later, also
Speaker 1: reached out to the Sandman in our mind God with
Speaker 1: sort of a different line of inquiry around living Dangerously
Speaker 1: two thousand. But for now, I invite you all to
Speaker 1: regale in the total recall of The Sandman on Living
Speaker 1: Dangerously two thousand.
Speaker 10: Yo, j BA, what up, dude. I would love to
Speaker 10: give you something like prophetic answer right here. But but
Speaker 10: back in the day, you got to understand something. A
Speaker 10: lot of times we didn't even advertise, like who was
Speaker 10: wrestling who. Paul would just say, these people are going
Speaker 10: to be on the show on a pay per view, yay,
Speaker 10: advertise this stuff. But then it might have been a
Speaker 10: last decision to his part. He decided to go that way,
Speaker 10: and we all just had so much trust in Paul
Speaker 10: that I didn't really need to say who.
Speaker 2: What, where, when? Why? How? You know what I mean?
Speaker 10: He just said, this is what we're doing, and that's
Speaker 10: what we did.
Speaker 2: Pace, go ahead. It's great. I love it. It's a
Speaker 2: great answer.
Speaker 1: He stayed to the man in the.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you gotta you gotta understand, you know what, Samon,
Speaker 2: You need to understand that when you do cameos, it's
Speaker 2: probably better if you have some clothes on. He's in
Speaker 2: his bed another love. Yeah, yeah, seriously, Like it's he's like,
Speaker 2: you know, he's like, imagine he's laying in his bed phone,
Speaker 2: you know, does he have one hand in the back
Speaker 2: of his head? I couldn't. I don't remember, so yeah,
Speaker 2: I think he's one answer. He got one hand in
Speaker 2: the back of his head, the other one holding his
Speaker 2: phone up, you know, probably arm fully extended, you know,
Speaker 2: and and just doing this thing. It's like, and I'll
Speaker 2: tell you what, to be honest with you, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: guess he doesn't get too many, because I mean, he
Speaker 2: fucking gave it right back. It was so fast. Fucking
Speaker 2: RVD turnaround was like took almost a week.
Speaker 1: Holy shit, that's good for a six pack.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, exactly exactly. He's like, all right, I guess
Speaker 2: I got dinner paid for.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's tremendous.
Speaker 2: Such a fucking.
Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't that, you know, we just didn't ask
Speaker 1: questions and we had faith in PAULI. Maybe it was
Speaker 1: because Sandman was drunker than ever in two thousand. Non,
Speaker 1: I'm one to bet on that I remember a fucking thing.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was this. We turned to Saboo's book for
Speaker 1: a little glimpse of the Sandman. In two thousand, Florida
Speaker 1: was becoming one of ECW's better markets, so they were
Speaker 1: looking for more places to run for this particular event.
Speaker 1: On June's third, two thousand and Pensacola. Jack Victory was
Speaker 1: running the promotion side of things. Because he was local.
Speaker 1: He was hoping the gig would do well enough to
Speaker 1: secure the venue as a regular part of a big
Speaker 1: Florida loop. This, of course, would both help the promotion
Speaker 1: and help make more money down the road. While Jack
Speaker 1: was taking things very seriously about the show, Sandman was
Speaker 1: quite the opposite. Before the show having started, Sandman was
Speaker 1: already tanked. He was three sheets to the wind even
Speaker 1: before he walked into the place, and when he did,
Speaker 1: putting a cooler behind him to stay hydrated. Before the event,
Speaker 1: Paul Haeman got the group together so we could thank
Speaker 1: Jack for setting everything up. Paul gave his typical pep
Speaker 1: talk to the locker room, telling them to go all out.
Speaker 1: Sandman heard go all out, and through his beer goggles
Speaker 1: he translated that differently. A few minutes later, he took
Speaker 1: everything out of his pants. That is, oh no, Sandman
Speaker 1: agan walking around fully buck assed naked backstage, even in
Speaker 1: areas that were not designated his dressing rooms. Then, to
Speaker 1: be extra gross, he started dicking around with people's stuff,
Speaker 1: you know. He tea bagged some of the guy's luggage,
Speaker 1: and he tried to stir people's drinks with his penis.
Speaker 1: Can I borrow this? He asked as he took Don
Speaker 1: Marie's hair brush and combed his gross pubic hair with it.
Speaker 2: What's wrong with this pussy?
Speaker 1: The more time passed, the more blitzed he became. It
Speaker 1: was even more an unfortunate thing that Sandman was booked
Speaker 1: in the main event for this evening, because that just
Speaker 1: let time go on so we could drink even more
Speaker 1: and get worse and worse. By the last match of
Speaker 1: the night, Sandman had fortunately found his clothing. The main
Speaker 1: event was Sandman Dreamer Raven Into Jerry versus Jack Victory,
Speaker 1: Scotty Anton, Steve Corino and Rhino. Sandman's entrance to the
Speaker 1: ring was last, probably because they couldn't find him in
Speaker 1: time to go into earlier, and he finally stepped stepped
Speaker 1: out past the curtain. He almost took a nose dive.
Speaker 1: Thank god for the guardrails. Sandman pulled his way up
Speaker 1: to his feet and pulled his weight down to the
Speaker 1: ring like a drunken sailor. Before getting into the ring,
Speaker 1: he went over to the timekeeper and annoyingly hit the
Speaker 1: ring belt several times. As all the guys in the
Speaker 1: ring waited for him to make his grand entrance, Sandman
Speaker 1: just lingered outside, stumbling around in his own drunken world.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't he wouldn't get in to start trying to kill
Speaker 1: time and make the excessive drunken It seemed like he
Speaker 1: was part of the show. Tommy Dreamer grabbed the microphone.
Speaker 1: After we get done beating up all these guys, tonight,
Speaker 1: we're going to go out to a bar and watch
Speaker 1: Sandman get naked. Tommy was just doing what wrestlers do.
Speaker 1: He was trying to pop the boys in the back,
Speaker 1: but he had no idea of what the Sandman was
Speaker 1: going to do next.
Speaker 2: Oh no, Sandman.
Speaker 1: Of course, figured there was no time better than the
Speaker 1: present to get naked, so he immediately began take off
Speaker 1: his pants. At ringside, Tommy Dreamer jumped out of the ring.
Speaker 1: Being an agent for the promotion, he knew public nudity
Speaker 1: was about the worst thing that one of their guys
Speaker 1: could do, especially when trying to secure a venue for
Speaker 1: regular shows. A new haddad quick, so he stuck out
Speaker 1: his arms and quickly tried to cover the cock and balls.
Speaker 2: The cock and balls, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Throw and Sandman pushed his package hard at Tommy's hands
Speaker 1: and rushed it over once with his men meat, oh
Speaker 1: my god, roast out. Tommy got cockshy, and Withdrew. Sandman
Speaker 1: continued on, strutting his stuff like a proud peacock. He
Speaker 1: waltzed around the outside of the ring, showing off his shit.
Speaker 1: Scotty Anton looked and about lost it. Sandman's dick is filthy,
Speaker 1: he said, covering his face and burying it in the
Speaker 1: turn Bible, trying.
Speaker 2: Feel like it's like uhlix got maybe like some uh
Speaker 2: some like animals shit on it or something.
Speaker 8: Oh.
Speaker 1: As soon as Sandman figured out how to stumble up
Speaker 1: into the ring, he did. Then before anyone was ready,
Speaker 1: he started nailing everyone in sight with ridiculous cane shots
Speaker 1: as hard as whatever it was he had been drinking.
Speaker 1: Now I'd even a minute in and everyone knew sand
Speaker 1: was in no shape to perform. Despite the war OFVCW
Speaker 1: fans laughing their asses off, everyone in the ring was
Speaker 1: lost as to what would happen next. Guys like Dreamer
Speaker 1: and Raven, who were company loyalists, knew it wasn't going
Speaker 1: to end well, but had no clue what to do.
Speaker 1: The Sandman was standing in the middle of the ring
Speaker 1: wearing nothing but a T shirt with his chicken skin
Speaker 1: balls hanging out.
Speaker 2: Ah, he sounds like more of a problem than Jake
Speaker 2: Roberts was or Scott Hall was.
Speaker 1: He was raising his arms so you could get an
Speaker 1: even better look at his well leathered nutsack.
Speaker 2: Oh, Jesus Christ. Saboo the fucking wordsmith here, who fucking knew?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably more Kenny Cassan over the co author
Speaker 1: than Saboo. But can you sign off on well leathered Sabo?
Speaker 1: The shit faced Sandman did not give one shit. He laughed,
Speaker 1: grabbed the mic from the ring announcer, and decided to
Speaker 1: give Pensacola a lesson in physiology. You see, this is
Speaker 1: my big cane, he said, holding up his kendo stick,
Speaker 1: and this is my little cane. After that, he exposed
Speaker 1: even more of his penis for all the.
Speaker 2: Criss Was there caane a small person wrestling? Yeah? Was
Speaker 2: there for a little cane A little Vader?
Speaker 1: I know, but I think there was actually is Raven
Speaker 1: hit his face? Come on, Raven, Sandman said, you're just
Speaker 1: miserable because you've been sober for thirty four days straight.
Speaker 1: Sandman stand in the mic, saying he was about to
Speaker 1: do what he did backstage, walking around naked messing with
Speaker 1: people's stuff. So he jumped back out of the ring
Speaker 1: again and tried wiping his ass with people's signs and
Speaker 1: whatever he could do to get a cheap pop. The
Speaker 1: crowd started chating, holy shit, holy shit, Sandman jump back
Speaker 1: in the ring. At this point, he was acting like
Speaker 1: he was trying to pull up his underwear but couldn't
Speaker 1: because he was too drunk, So then he started jumping
Speaker 1: up in the air, hoping that his pants would follow
Speaker 1: gravity's course and just go up on their own.
Speaker 2: The fuck.
Speaker 1: At this point, Dreamer and Raven just gave up. They
Speaker 1: knew that Samon had already killed the town and that
Speaker 1: ECW would likely not be returning. Tommy decided to play
Speaker 1: along with the spot to try and end it, maybe
Speaker 1: fought by following Sandmon around. He was acting like he
Speaker 1: was trying to help him get his pants up, and
Speaker 1: never actually catching up with him to do so. Once
Speaker 1: Dreamer convinced sanda Man to stopp jumping, Sandman bent over
Speaker 1: to pull up his pants. Then Dreamer stuck out his
Speaker 1: foot and pushed Sandman over to the matt face first.
Speaker 1: After that, Jerry jumped in and tried to help pull
Speaker 1: sand Man's pants up and almost got a greasy dick
Speaker 1: in the eye for his trouble greasy. Then Sandman rushed
Speaker 1: over again and actually helped Sandman. I think about what
Speaker 1: think about what constitutes a greasy dick with chicken skin balls? Like, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's like there's there's an there's an oily miss about it, right,
Speaker 1: Like it's slippery, there's a surface slayer, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Yep, yep, something before you touch skin.
Speaker 2: Yep. Yes, it's like a like a like a yeah,
Speaker 2: like a shiny film on top.
Speaker 1: After Sandman had his pants back on, Raven tried to
Speaker 1: cover that last train wreckord spot with more comedy. He
Speaker 1: looked under the ring for anything he could find to
Speaker 1: improvise off of, and returned with a bull rope. Then
Speaker 1: he gave the other end to Dreamer, spun it like
Speaker 1: a jump rope, and Sandman took the lead and jumped
Speaker 1: in between them Steve Coren, who shook his head and
Speaker 1: grabbed the mic. Look, Dreamer, you need to get a
Speaker 1: handle on the raw. The poster boy for AA, he said,
Speaker 1: Even though there is no reason this match you'ld even
Speaker 1: go on. Since Sandman is literally about ready to pass out.
Speaker 1: We should either wrestle a traditional match or just let
Speaker 1: Rhino go finish the job on Sandman his wife. Sandman
Speaker 1: had a loss for words, dropped his pants again and
Speaker 1: mooned Rhino. It's like the fourth time he's dropped his pants.
Speaker 1: Jack victory by this point was fucked. After this, it
Speaker 1: became a total shit show. While the rest of the
Speaker 1: wrestlers went on to try to have the matches planned,
Speaker 1: Sandman kept throwing tables in the ring. He simulated fallatio
Speaker 1: on his cane, then wandered to the back.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the fuck.
Speaker 1: Finally the map got on in the way bar.
Speaker 2: What a bizarre thing.
Speaker 1: However, it wasn't long for Sandman just returned to ringside
Speaker 1: with the twelfth pack of Budweiser. After refueling, Sandman came
Speaker 1: in and caned all the heels again, even harder than before,
Speaker 1: and then everyone bailed to the outside. Sandman jumped out too,
Speaker 1: then threw two more tables into the empty ring. He
Speaker 1: was highly intoxicated and not looking out for the well
Speaker 1: being of anyone, including himself. At the very end, sand
Speaker 1: Man somehow managed to climb to the top rope and
Speaker 1: put Rhino through a table with a swanton bomb. Then
Speaker 1: Sandman can Rhino over and over again until Dreamer came
Speaker 1: in the ring with a DDT for Rhino for the
Speaker 1: pin and finally put that shit show to an end. Backstage,
Speaker 1: people were pissed. Dreamer was furious at Sandman's dangerous actions
Speaker 1: and even traded shots with Sandman before it was quickly
Speaker 1: broken up. But the fuck were you even thinking, Hayman, screamed,
Speaker 1: Sandman didn't applied. Fawnsie, go get a car right now
Speaker 1: and have Sandman removed from the building, Paul said. Sandman
Speaker 1: stormed out of the room. After that, the heels in
Speaker 1: the tag match grabbed Paul to further complaint about the
Speaker 1: brutal cane shots. Paul nodded. Then Jack Victory complained even more,
Speaker 1: highlighting the nudity and drunken behavior that would likely cost
Speaker 1: them return business in the town. Paul agreed. Paul Haman
Speaker 1: went and found Sandman in an extremely small restroom, which
Speaker 1: was described as being as narrow as an airplane shitter.
Speaker 1: Jack Victory was not too far behind him and visibly
Speaker 1: hot because he prompt promoted the show and sand Man
Speaker 1: destroyed his hard work. While Paul was scolding Sandman, Victory
Speaker 1: reached over him and nailed Sandman with a forearm. This
Speaker 1: is a fucking shit show, boss.
Speaker 2: This is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It just keeps going. Hayman stood between the two men
Speaker 1: for a moment, trying to keep the peace the best
Speaker 1: he could. Because of the small space in the bathroom,
Speaker 1: Hayman was shoving into the stall and forced to stand
Speaker 1: on the toilet seat so they could get at each other.
Speaker 1: That's an amazing sight, Paul standing on the toilet so
Speaker 1: two guys can beat the shit out of each other.
Speaker 2: It was on.
Speaker 1: Sandman retaliated with a finger gouge, scratching at Jack Victory's eye.
Speaker 2: How does he wait, wait, how does Sabou have a
Speaker 2: like in eyewitness account of this?
Speaker 1: I prefer not to ask that question.
Speaker 2: Good, good point.
Speaker 1: Isn't he the guy that we couldn't afford to talk to?
Speaker 1: It Russell cad arrestaur conor remember that you talked to
Speaker 1: just incredible for fifteen cents, right. Victory grabbed Sandman by
Speaker 1: the ears, bashed his head into the wall, and then
Speaker 1: hit him with a series of four quick headbutts. During
Speaker 1: all the commotions, sal Gratziano, a four and a plus
Speaker 1: pound giant of a man, ran into the tiny room.
Speaker 1: He wriggled his large body into the scuffling.
Speaker 2: Sabo, Sabo. I gotta tell you, pal, if you need,
Speaker 2: if you needed to explain like who Salagratziano is to
Speaker 2: your audience, then you don't.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't be right someone reading this right, there is.
Speaker 2: Nobody, there is nobody outside of the E c W
Speaker 2: crowd that is reading this fucking book.
Speaker 1: He wriggled his large body into the scuffle and somehow
Speaker 1: squeezed right between them. The fights over, Gratziano shouted, pushing
Speaker 1: Jack Victory out of the bathroom. Everyone calmed down. The
Speaker 1: two walked back to their dressing rooms in silence. Victory's
Speaker 1: eye was puffy from the gouge and Sandman was actually
Speaker 1: bleeding from the headbuts he took. But both were said
Speaker 1: to be all right within minutes after the fight, and
Speaker 1: typically c W family fashion sources say that Sandman and
Speaker 1: Victory were already over it. There was no heat and
Speaker 1: they were already joking together about the fight. How about
Speaker 1: that one? That's that's that I could buy that now
Speaker 1: do we know, well, he probably doesn't recall this particular
Speaker 1: night in two thousand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was actually wondering too, you know I I
Speaker 2: you know how I like to add a little, a
Speaker 2: little something that's a little kind of sure, it's obnoxious.
Speaker 2: I did say they can do the The actual request
Speaker 2: was I forgot. I forgot I did this. Maybe this
Speaker 2: pissed him off and I ruined it for us. I
Speaker 2: said something about I said, oh, yeah, big fan, even
Speaker 2: even in even in the even in WWE, you gave
Speaker 2: like a he gave it a shot of breath air
Speaker 2: or something like that, a shot of breath air, fresh air,
Speaker 2: like a whatever, a breath of whatever it was. I
Speaker 2: don't know what I said, but something about basically like
Speaker 2: saying that, oh, he was great in WWE during his
Speaker 2: ECW not at all. Didn't fucking even to the point
Speaker 2: where I didn't even remember that I did that, you know,
Speaker 2: Like that's the thing. I don't remember I even asked
Speaker 2: it till till later. So then we can go up to.
Speaker 1: Joey Styles and Cyrus with the scripts in their hands,
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what the hell is going on,
Speaker 1: and of course Corrino back on the mic One wore
Speaker 1: down one more to go.
Speaker 2: Oh god, I'm not waiting.
Speaker 1: A later, Dusty roades, I'm the new American dream around
Speaker 1: here and I'm gonna kick your fat ass if you will.
Speaker 1: He says that was funny, and Dusty's ECW music comes
Speaker 1: on and he comes out. The song was by a
Speaker 1: band called Reckless Fortune, who also did the custom Mike
Speaker 1: Awesome you c W theme that he used to come
Speaker 1: out to. Oh some, and I don't know what the
Speaker 1: rest of it was, and uh yeah, they cut one
Speaker 1: for Dusty too. He steps out in a T shirt
Speaker 1: and a hat and jeans and with the knee pads
Speaker 1: over the jeans.
Speaker 2: You know the look that's so it's so inappropriate. I
Speaker 2: can't stand the I can't stand knee pads over the jeans.
Speaker 2: It's it's hot, it's really yeah, it's not okay. It's
Speaker 2: not okay.
Speaker 1: And he's got a bull rope and the stroll Blakes
Speaker 1: are going on in the Bricky CW entrance away and
Speaker 1: Dusty returns to Connecticut where he had his first wrestling match.
Speaker 2: Ever did he really? I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: He went out to Boston and worked for Tony Santos
Speaker 1: that's why he's a Celtics fan because he came out
Speaker 1: here early in his life. Dusty gets in and the
Speaker 1: lunges at Carino takes off the hat and we're underway,
Speaker 1: as Dusty's introduced as the one and only American dream.
Speaker 1: It's if you can believe it. After what an hour,
Speaker 1: almost forty five minutes, the opening contest.
Speaker 2: Been so fucking long.
Speaker 1: Acw Living Dangerously two thousand is Dusty Roads faces Steve
Speaker 1: Corino in a bull rope match. So Dusty snatches Carino
Speaker 1: and plants an elbow and Dan gets a big bump
Speaker 1: referee tying up the wrist so these guys can be
Speaker 1: attached via the bull rope. The referee, by the way,
Speaker 1: H C Loake, who they were involving in story lines
Speaker 1: at the time, excuse me, yes, HC lok koreans that sorry,
Speaker 1: what's an that's his name?
Speaker 2: I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: Quero and Victory had bludgeoned HC Loac in his hometown,
Speaker 1: so he's hardly lead impartial official here. They mentioned how
Speaker 1: he had stitches in his head as a result. In
Speaker 1: Sarrus says, that's what happens when you try to get
Speaker 1: over in your hometown at the expense of talent. Dear Milwaukee,
Speaker 1: where h is from. Dusty pulling the rope in his
Speaker 1: Carena tries to get out of the ring. He grabs
Speaker 1: Corina's hair and smacks h of the cow bell, sign
Speaker 1: good seat equals I'm broke m Sarah says, fifteen two
Speaker 1: pound pieces of steel as the cow bell.
Speaker 2: He also questions he has a question about Dusty's intelligence.
Speaker 3: A genius.
Speaker 1: I missed that one. That's fucking legendary.
Speaker 2: That says it all.
Speaker 1: That's that's a that's a wrestling genius, you know, mm
Speaker 1: hm oh yeah. Dusty Sarrus says it sounded like a
Speaker 1: dinner bell ringing when the cow bell sounded. That explains
Speaker 1: Dusty's urgency.
Speaker 2: Here, damn right. He wants to get this match over with.
Speaker 1: Dusty digs the cow bell and a Krino's forehead, and
Speaker 1: Sarah speculates that he had sharpened the edge of the
Speaker 1: cow bell to really cut into Carino. They go up
Speaker 1: the aisle to the entrance way and Sarah says there's
Speaker 1: a certain camaraderie between the wrestlers, and sometimes Styles says
Speaker 1: things and gets heat on himself as a result. And
Speaker 1: so he's basically trying to pipe down Joey Styles from
Speaker 1: expressing any personal opinion about who's a good and bad
Speaker 1: person in ECW and Styles claps back with your count
Speaker 1: all night. So let the caddy mask between these two continues.
Speaker 2: Yeap.
Speaker 1: Dusty makes his way into the screaming throngs E C
Speaker 1: dub chance and Dusty hits him again. So they brawl
Speaker 1: out in the crowd and give you know, all corners
Speaker 1: of the building a taste to the violence. Preener then
Speaker 1: drops Dusty his knees and hits the cow bell. And
Speaker 1: you can tell Dusty is, well, what's he doing boss
Speaker 1: when he takes the cow bell to the head.
Speaker 2: Uh, he's well, you know he's he's dustydes And so
Speaker 2: I believe what I saw him do is stand up,
Speaker 2: point to his forehead and say, look at this sit,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna fucking cut my head open.
Speaker 1: A A don't want nobody to miss it. If you're
Speaker 1: gonna do it, you might as well do your best
Speaker 1: to ensure everyone's looking in your direction. So Dusty, well, yo,
Speaker 1: he does what it takes to make the people feel
Speaker 1: like they got their money's worth it.
Speaker 2: Ye that's right, Which is watch an old man bleed.
Speaker 1: It involves a razor blade, boss, doesn't it?
Speaker 2: You know? That's it to me? This is exactly. I mean,
Speaker 2: I know Dusty would would would juice all the time.
Speaker 2: I know that that was kind of a thing, and
Speaker 2: I know his forehead was just a fucking you know,
Speaker 2: it was a carving board, right. But you know, it
Speaker 2: just comes up a point we're watching these older men.
Speaker 2: This is I feel the same way in when we
Speaker 2: were watching Hogan and Flair and TNA. It's like, what,
Speaker 2: like why why is this where this is the only
Speaker 2: way you can make yourself valuable. It's like Terry Funk too,
Speaker 2: you know Terry Funk Also it falls under this category
Speaker 2: where it's like the only way you can you can
Speaker 2: make yourself seem valuable is to completely like destroy your
Speaker 2: body right and bleed.
Speaker 1: And bleed, yeah, destroy your skin more accurately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean but also with the hard shots
Speaker 2: and shit, like does see what you doing? A fuck it?
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you always had violent matches, but
Speaker 2: like you're what was he like fifty something sixty.
Speaker 1: Something something like that. Well it's it's ironic because like
Speaker 1: they get so scared about their physical limitations that they
Speaker 1: feel like they have to have juice so that people
Speaker 1: don't feel like it's a shitty match. That was definitely
Speaker 1: the Hogan flarired thing. You know, there's no reason for
Speaker 1: juice rather than right or terrified that people are to
Speaker 1: shit on the match because we can't physically do anything
Speaker 1: but that the irony is like, those are the kind
Speaker 1: of things you do to get noticed and get over
Speaker 1: when you're young. Is bleed buckets and draw people in
Speaker 1: so you stand out. But once you get over, like
Speaker 1: no one has ever been in the history of the business. Right,
Speaker 1: you should have sort of gotten a past to not
Speaker 1: have to do that shit anymore.
Speaker 2: Right, exactly, Like you should just be able to fucking
Speaker 2: go out there and have a shitty match and people
Speaker 2: will love you for it anyway, because it's just it's
Speaker 2: exciting to see you do what you do. Right.
Speaker 1: They're here to see you play the hits, you know,
Speaker 1: not like try to fit into the modern business. Like
Speaker 1: when Flair takes a backdrop on Tacks, it's like, can
Speaker 1: I get out of here?
Speaker 2: I know I can't. I'm probably gonna do that next
Speaker 2: week too.
Speaker 1: Sarruhs says that Dusty's elbow has so much calcification. It's
Speaker 1: like getting hit by a ball peen hammer when he
Speaker 1: hits you with that thing. I heard him say that
Speaker 1: Dusty bleeding on the left eye and swinging on Carino
Speaker 1: out in the crowd. Cyrus talks about the similarities of
Speaker 1: both as you know communicators at their base Dusty Roads
Speaker 1: and Steve Corino.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, here, I got that one. I got that
Speaker 2: one for you. Here. You have to see the parallel
Speaker 2: charismatic communicators char like that karas metic communicator. Can we
Speaker 2: write that down?
Speaker 1: A lot of this business is communication.
Speaker 2: Shit charismatic communicators. There's team the charismatic communication beforehand too,
Speaker 2: there's a uh we get I think you mentioned Jack
Speaker 2: Victory holding on typed to to Dusty Roads, and Joey
Speaker 2: Styles puts it a very interesting way, only on a
Speaker 2: dream like a cheap suit. I mean, I would think
Speaker 2: cheap suits would rip.
Speaker 1: Right, and they don't hold on to anything right exactly.
Speaker 1: They get they get destroyed. But I kind of got
Speaker 1: what he's saying. But uh so, full throated Dusty Chance
Speaker 1: breaking out here in an ec W building as he
Speaker 1: dings Corrino a few more times with the cow bell
Speaker 1: Sarah tells joe it's so gross. He'd like to see
Speaker 1: him go off script just once and admit when someone else.
Speaker 2: Is right.
Speaker 1: To the rail. I love how he like he doesn't
Speaker 1: argue Joey's points. He argued, Joey is being disingenuous and
Speaker 1: trying to get himself over right right, that Joey doesn't
Speaker 1: believe what he's arguing.
Speaker 2: Which which that is funny.
Speaker 1: To the rail.
Speaker 2: They make it.
Speaker 1: They've made it. Dusty dings and Sacrino spills over the rail,
Speaker 1: and then Jack Victory Blindside's Dusty and Creno takes over
Speaker 1: with some shots.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just again as I watch these men,
Speaker 2: poor hot, it just it just makes me again. I
Speaker 2: think to myself, here it is Dusty Roads in two thousand.
Speaker 2: When any debut in the sixties or early seventies in wrestling, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Late sixties, isn't it.
Speaker 2: I mean we're talking thirty plus years and the he
Speaker 2: feels the need to sell tickets, to sell more tickets
Speaker 2: with loose blood.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, he knows what they come to see.
Speaker 1: When it's a bull row. I'm bringing a bowl row
Speaker 1: plus Steve Corino.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't need to see it, but he.
Speaker 1: Needs the money and that's the tragedy of it. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Like Dusty Hogan even Flair to some degree, although he's
Speaker 1: got offholdings, but it's kind of like, you know, when
Speaker 1: he's like really showing off all his chains, it's like
Speaker 1: this guy doesn't have money. You know, he doesn't have
Speaker 1: he doesn't have that much money because he's herring too
Speaker 1: many flashy clothes.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's why he's doing fucking local uh, you know,
Speaker 2: used car commercials.
Speaker 1: If these guys, if Hogan Flair and uh Dusty can't
Speaker 1: retire with dignity, then what chance do any of these.
Speaker 2: Other wrestlers have honestly nothing?
Speaker 1: Back in the ring, Carino stumps the bloodied head of
Speaker 1: Dusty Roads and chokes him with a rope. Victory slides
Speaker 1: in a steel chair and they fold it out.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Dusty is put down in the seat and yanks down
Speaker 1: Steve Corino and Steve falls into the chair the cow
Speaker 1: bell rope. Dusty then gets up, hikes the jeans you
Speaker 1: wanna talk about Sam right, and trying to find a
Speaker 1: way to get those those pants up. Yeah, seriously, that's
Speaker 1: a Titanic struggle for the dream here. I mean we're
Speaker 1: talking probably like a forty eight inch waist and he
Speaker 1: still can't get it.
Speaker 2: Over the hump. I think forty eighth being generous.
Speaker 1: Probably, And then he's with no underwear though, so you
Speaker 1: gotta oh subtract that.
Speaker 2: God, and again just think of like, you know, he's
Speaker 2: got ass hairs, just just I can't caked with with
Speaker 2: with ship.
Speaker 1: It's like you know, when like you're ass sweats, so
Speaker 1: like you start smelling. He's basically like you said, on
Speaker 1: the toilet and you feel steam before you even ship.
Speaker 2: Oh god, and yeah, oh oh, and it slides off
Speaker 2: the hairs. Think of that.
Speaker 1: Oh fuck me, think of that. Just he lets a
Speaker 1: big one go and the water pops right up his asshole. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I call that one the Houston Oil a Way ship.
Speaker 2: Literally.
Speaker 1: I wonder if he had a muffler in for this one.
Speaker 1: That's a good one for Steve Corino if he was
Speaker 1: on Cameo. Did Dusty have a piece of toilet paper
Speaker 1: stuck in his ass crack for this one? Yeah, a muffler.
Speaker 1: He's Dusty, we have to know, Oh my god. So yeah,
Speaker 1: and then Dusty starts scratching the arm of Steve Creno
Speaker 1: the cow bell. Steve Creno came to Danbury not just
Speaker 1: too poor hot for the forehead, he came to slice
Speaker 1: his arm open. Oh fuck me, he's blading the arm.
Speaker 1: Cyrus says, Karno is a good looking kid. Now we're
Speaker 1: gonna butcher him up just to make a point. So
Speaker 1: he's taking this moral high groundstand. Well, hopefully it's a
Speaker 1: point on the by rate.
Speaker 2: Hopefully around this time Joey styles. All right, it's match one,
Speaker 2: and Joey Styles has the line of the night.
Speaker 9: If you ask me, I apologize that he pants watching
Speaker 9: it home, that maybe Squeamer's lot of blood has been lost.
Speaker 9: Thus more this matchup and here it's only going to
Speaker 9: get worse. And again you're squeamish. I have no idea
Speaker 9: why you purtased a Hew Papers. I would throw my apologize.
Speaker 1: That's paul him in the headset.
Speaker 2: What are you saying?
Speaker 1: That's pretty fun?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I fucking love that. I'm just that
Speaker 2: like the fact that he goes all the way to
Speaker 2: say I withdraw my apology. That's the fucking money part.
Speaker 1: Like you know, Joey styles his face like I'll like serious,
Speaker 1: like serious but like you can't be serious and ecw
Speaker 1: so it's like, yeah, yeah, take a comic book series.
Speaker 2: I I I really, uh, I really appreciate Joey styles.
Speaker 2: He's uh, he's great. I wish I really wish he'd
Speaker 2: been able to leave let loose when he was awe
Speaker 2: commentator because I really enjoyed him, Actually I was. I
Speaker 2: was really bummed when when they let him go, uh
Speaker 2: from the raw spot. I thought he was perfect. Yep,
Speaker 2: he was.
Speaker 1: He had I'm not saying what he delivered was perfect
Speaker 1: because it had to go through the filters of having
Speaker 1: people in your ear.
Speaker 2: But he was.
Speaker 1: He was the one guy in the business that could
Speaker 1: actually take over from J Jr. And people wouldn't just
Speaker 1: think about JR. The whole time, right right, But you
Speaker 1: know he's able too. He's a little too hard headed,
Speaker 1: he's a little too like, you know, proud, but in
Speaker 1: a good way. Yeah, that would turn out to be
Speaker 1: a bad fit for it for them up there. And
Speaker 1: he's not even involved anymore, Like you never one hear
Speaker 1: about the guy. That's how right, that's how disillusion the
Speaker 1: ww F runt.
Speaker 2: I wonder, I wonder what he what is he doing now?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think he makes appearances. I've
Speaker 1: never heard of him being at like a convention or anything,
Speaker 1: or on a podcast or anything like that. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: He ended up doing like dot com. He ended up
Speaker 1: like transitioning into like more of an office role.
Speaker 2: I remember that, I do remember that happening. Yep.
Speaker 1: So Karino starts throwing, and Dusty drops to a knee,
Speaker 1: and now Karno's wedging and chair in the corner buckling.
Speaker 1: But a Dusty dunks krinos on on the head and
Speaker 1: makes a noise. Dusty flat and Steve Corino with an elbow,
Speaker 1: and then Dusty's on the offensive. Joey says, no doubt,
Speaker 1: referring to Dusty's ass crack showing on his Jean's fault
Speaker 1: created with the automatic.
Speaker 2: My big, my big fat white half baby.
Speaker 1: You here go Steve Creno's smart ass name for his
Speaker 1: elbow instead of the bionic elbow. Corrino had the automatic
Speaker 1: elbow several times. Dusty's crown is stupid, brings the dream
Speaker 1: not even mean what does.
Speaker 2: That even mean?
Speaker 1: It means like I took it to mean, like you
Speaker 1: automatically throw the elbow because it's like the crutch, Dusty leans.
Speaker 2: On to get through a mat.
Speaker 1: I see all right, Like he automatically throws the elbow.
Speaker 1: A second cow bell is introduced now by Jack Victory,
Speaker 1: and Dusty drops Victory and Creeno with some bionics. Victory
Speaker 1: was trying to throw tape to Steve Carena, we're told,
Speaker 1: but Dusty now has it.
Speaker 2: I was like, what, like why is he throwing tape?
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 2: I get you watch tape, but yeah, throwing tape.
Speaker 1: So throw tape at me all the time when my
Speaker 1: video order used to come in back to.
Speaker 4: So H.
Speaker 1: C Lowe gets his revenge by helping Dusty Rhodes tape
Speaker 1: the the They tried to tape the cow bell to
Speaker 1: Steve Kreno's head.
Speaker 2: It was kind of a stupid, awful. It's very stupid.
Speaker 1: It just keeps falling and Creno basically has to hold
Speaker 1: it on his head and they stand him up and
Speaker 1: then Dusty.
Speaker 2: I mean think about it, like he's sweaty, he's bloody.
Speaker 2: There's no way you can tape anything to his head. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's always that always blows my mind. And wrestling like
Speaker 2: no stop doing spots where like there's handcuff keys to
Speaker 2: unlock or you know, the time always stands still. Someone
Speaker 2: always fucks it up. It always takes way.
Speaker 1: Longer than you wanted to yep, and then these things
Speaker 1: like stop like trying to attach like attach some attacks
Speaker 1: to your sneakers or the last to your elbow pad.
Speaker 1: It's always so fucking stupid.
Speaker 2: The worst one, the worst one, in my opinion, that
Speaker 2: that always is cringe worthy to me, is wrestling you
Speaker 2: at ten Randy Savage trying to fucking tie up r.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 2: It is nauseating how long that is. It's like it's
Speaker 2: not long, but it just like.
Speaker 1: And they still hanging loose at the end. He still
Speaker 1: isn't convincingly, he's still fucking He still fucking falls. He
Speaker 1: falls is on the ground like it's it's pathetic, so stupid.
Speaker 1: But anyway, the idea is the cow bell is supposed
Speaker 1: to be taped to Corino's head so that Dusty can
Speaker 1: smack him in the head with a chair, and that's
Speaker 1: what he does. Coreno goes down. Dusty throws off the
Speaker 1: elbow pads to a big pop and gets just a
Speaker 1: little moment in the sun cooking and dancing before finally
Speaker 1: dropping the big elbow and then covering Kreno almost like
Speaker 1: in a three point football stance for the one, the two,
Speaker 1: and the three, and he celebrates with a curious but
Speaker 1: kind of also fitting double bird to the e c
Speaker 1: W crowd does Dusty here?
Speaker 2: I don't understand why he stiput off the crowd. They
Speaker 2: cheered for it, I know, and they receive it positively.
Speaker 2: They receive it as he's a He's giving them a
Speaker 2: shout out instead of insulting them. Yeah, well, I guess
Speaker 2: it was the era A gets Steve Austin doing that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably what was going through his mind. But
Speaker 1: in ten minutes and thirteen seconds, Usty Roads defeats Steve
Speaker 1: Carina when the bull rope match here at ECW Living
Speaker 1: Dangerously two thousand and it's all uphill from here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the h an. ECW does the same stuff as
Speaker 1: he would do in a bunkhouse match and Crockett Days,
Speaker 1: except he flips people off. So that's the extreme Dusty
Speaker 1: Road right right, and he walks out of the ring.
Speaker 1: Joey and Cyrus they promise an update on Lorie Fullington's condition.
Speaker 1: They say she's in an ambulance on the way of
Speaker 1: the hospital, and I'm thinking that's not an update.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, that's a good point. Uh fucking don
Speaker 2: Kallis looks like a nineties lawyer who sexually stalks his
Speaker 2: own clients.
Speaker 1: I love how first of all, how nineties lawyer is
Speaker 1: like an insult, like not a lawyer, a nineties lawyer. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, like I can see like a like a
Speaker 1: really you know, like a low end totally know what
Speaker 1: you mean by the way, you know, yeah, of course, yeah,
Speaker 1: like you gotta he's got that nineties the long hair
Speaker 1: look and stuff like it's it's appropriate to be a
Speaker 1: lawyer and look like this getting like in the nineties
Speaker 1: teenager's off drunk driving charges in his hometown, right well,
Speaker 1: then afterwards getting them drunk afterwards to celebrate.
Speaker 2: You know, that's him. And as Joey and Cyrus are
Speaker 2: always outside if he has a hot client, you know,
Speaker 2: he's always outside a huge risk, you know, watching them,
Speaker 2: huge watching them. Oh yeah, oh yeah, Like you.
Speaker 1: Know, he gets a reputation as being the guy that
Speaker 1: can get you off on drunk driving charges in the
Speaker 1: in the town. But like they really plugged in people
Speaker 1: in the city know that. But like when one of
Speaker 1: the bigger business men in town. His daughter gets in
Speaker 1: trouble and everyone's recommending Cyrus. The dad knows the scorn.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, oh, yeah, we're not going with him, honey, Honey,
Speaker 1: you don't want to go with him.
Speaker 2: He may get he may he may get you off,
Speaker 2: but you got to get him off first.
Speaker 1: There's a catchy lawyer TV ad for you. We'll get
Speaker 1: each other off and he whip's that absolutely, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. There's some guy that pokes his head
Speaker 1: out behind a curtain while Joey and Cyrus are doing
Speaker 1: their stand up up in the announced position. I don't
Speaker 1: know who that was, but that's funny. And he pokes
Speaker 1: his head back out. Whoever can id That guy gets
Speaker 1: a prize from the lapsed Fane and yeah, Sarruhs's.
Speaker 2: I hate to say it.
Speaker 1: It's an unfortunate situation we have here. The Sandman has
Speaker 1: gone with her to the hospital and they're trailing off
Speaker 1: and says it's going to be unfortunate. He's not here
Speaker 1: to have his match with Rhino. What are we supposed
Speaker 1: to do? So they're acting like, you know, they're booking
Speaker 1: on the fly here, which they probably were, but they're
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, they're trying to bring it down
Speaker 1: to earth with like a somber tone, and like, you know,
Speaker 1: both are trying to act like this isn't part of
Speaker 1: the entertainment this evening.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right up the entertainment portion of our show.
Speaker 1: Giving the extraneous circumstances, if not the extreme circumstances were
Speaker 1: under they say, the Sandman is going to have to
Speaker 1: forfeit his match with Rhino and the TV title tournament,
Speaker 1: and the network, we're told, is chosen their champion and
Speaker 1: successor to RVD, and Rhino will now go into the
Speaker 1: finals against the winner of Super Crazy and a Little Guido.
Speaker 1: Later tonight, Joey gets in his face about Rhino going
Speaker 1: after Lori Fullington and basically starts accusing Cyrus of knowing
Speaker 1: that Rhino or pardon me, knowing that Steve Corino was
Speaker 1: going to do this, and that Rhino is going to
Speaker 1: do what he did to Sandman's wife. All is kind
Speaker 1: of a elaborate ploy to make sure Rhino gets past
Speaker 1: Sandman in the tournament and gets to the final because
Speaker 1: Rhino is the network's chosen successor. As discussed to Rob Man, Damn,
Speaker 1: this stinks. Joey says, this stinks. He says about six
Speaker 1: times in a row. And this is cut from Peacock
Speaker 1: because there's a copyrighted music that overlays the promo, so
Speaker 1: you'll see them suddenly jump to Stephen DeAngelis, the ring
Speaker 1: announcer of the ring. But that makes sense why these
Speaker 1: were all that makes total sense, absolutely, But this is
Speaker 1: what you missed, if you must know. And we're completests
Speaker 1: off nothing else here at TLF some words from a
Speaker 1: Guido ahead of his match, and we hear from Sally
Speaker 1: Grazziano as well, So prepare yourself to hear a man's
Speaker 1: voice beyond just you know, wheezing, we're going That was
Speaker 1: a sticking setup.
Speaker 2: It's what that was. What do you want me to go? Bring?
Speaker 1: You settle in this company?
Speaker 11: And I'm the biggest. They used to take us as
Speaker 11: a joke jokes. Oh you can, Matt Russell shoot and glucha.
Speaker 2: Libre, you can wrestle.
Speaker 3: Super Prey.
Speaker 2: We beat you before, we'll beat you dead.
Speaker 11: You think you're king of the Mexican death matches, Well,
Speaker 11: tonight is an Italian death.
Speaker 2: Match, and we'll glue to you and the world. Why
Speaker 2: he will be the next e.
Speaker 1: C W World Television Champion. Love playing music on their
Speaker 1: promo videos so annoying. That's what costs them now these
Speaker 1: years later now the Guido's promo, no one can ever
Speaker 1: see it again.
Speaker 2: I really, yeah, I mean there's a I know, you've
Speaker 2: you you support it and all using all this, I
Speaker 2: really just don't like it. I don't like it at all. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it really, I mean, I guess it's different in all
Speaker 2: but there are some things that I don't want to
Speaker 2: be different in wrestling.
Speaker 1: Yep, and some backstage words from our principles is one
Speaker 1: of them. It was something at ACW visually distinct, Like
Speaker 1: you watch their show and they would they would uniquely
Speaker 1: blend together vignettes and interviews with matches. There wasn't a
Speaker 1: there sometimes there was, but for the most sometimes Joey
Speaker 1: would do it. For the most part, their promos weren't
Speaker 1: you know, Mike Holders, you know. And then some of
Speaker 1: the bishops started doing and that, like we innovated it.
Speaker 2: You know, Why did they? Why did they? How did they?
Speaker 2: How are they able to sell videotapes? Yeah?
Speaker 1: They just put the audio on there and didn't worry
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: It really is crazy because I mean, Paul said years later,
Speaker 1: you know, we just we decided to just do it
Speaker 1: until someone sued us. So they were just small enough
Speaker 1: to not get suit, but just big enough to have
Speaker 1: a VHS distribution deal, you know, right, That's why it
Speaker 1: was always going to only go so far, because well,
Speaker 1: guy's like NW Jack, Like without the music, it's like
Speaker 1: this is you don't even get it. You don't even
Speaker 1: get why this guy is what a thing. And some
Speaker 1: of the music was so key, like The Sandman's music
Speaker 1: and Tommy Dreamers music and rvd's music, and it was
Speaker 1: so key to the presentation, it was so key to
Speaker 1: what made PCW seem cool that you really we were
Speaker 1: taking a risk that once you couldn't do that anymore,
Speaker 1: these guys would really.
Speaker 2: I guess that's part of the thing.
Speaker 1: Like that, as if Steve Austin couldn't come out to
Speaker 1: glass shattering, you.
Speaker 2: Know, oh, it'd be awful. That's kind of the thing.
Speaker 2: I guess where I why I oppose you know, real
Speaker 2: songs as opposed to your own stuff is because you
Speaker 2: know at some point that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I think, well, we've learned from WW it's going to
Speaker 1: happen for the purposes of vhs just tribution or a
Speaker 1: home video distribution because you have to pay for every instance.
Speaker 1: But like AW pays for it, and it's it's pretty
Speaker 1: brilliant and anybody they've they've paid for music for it
Speaker 1: becomes an absolutely essential part of like why people get
Speaker 1: excited to see them.
Speaker 2: And and if if AW goes out of business, are
Speaker 2: they do the rights go to the of the owner
Speaker 2: the rights.
Speaker 1: Because they don't, I mean, they distribute DVD.
Speaker 2: So that's a good question.
Speaker 1: I've never watched an AW DVD, but just as like
Speaker 1: kind of like a nod to you know, the demographic
Speaker 1: of their fan base, they still put out DVDs, and
Speaker 1: I don't know, I wish someone in the Solar system
Speaker 1: would write to us and let us know that if
Speaker 1: you buy an AW DVD, if the music is dubbed over,
Speaker 1: i'd imagine. But but but other than that, they don't
Speaker 1: have a streaming service. They don't have a place, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, right where you watch it more
Speaker 1: than once, where they're redistributing it. And that's where the
Speaker 1: royalties start kicking in, where you're making new money off
Speaker 1: that event.
Speaker 2: Well, you can, you can get it off of can't
Speaker 2: you get can't you get them off a bleacher? You can?
Speaker 1: You cannot.
Speaker 2: You can order it.
Speaker 1: But but pay per view replays are just like live.
Speaker 1: It doesn't that. That's not the same thing as repackaging
Speaker 1: it months later and putting a new discrete product on
Speaker 1: the shelf with the song that the replays for some reason,
Speaker 1: like if you order a UFC replay and they play
Speaker 1: real music, you know, the guys can pick their music.
Speaker 2: For the most part.
Speaker 1: You can always hear the original on a UFC replay.
Speaker 1: But if you watch it on like their streaming service
Speaker 1: ninety days after the pay per view, or if they
Speaker 1: replay the matches on ESPN or whatever TV station they're with,
Speaker 1: that they cut the music out.
Speaker 2: So what the fuck is the point?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you can't, if you can't have the
Speaker 2: experience day in and day out, what's the point it
Speaker 2: gets people over? I mean, if it's the song that
Speaker 2: gets you over and not what you do in the
Speaker 2: and the damn thing, then you know, then there's a problem.
Speaker 2: Good point, there's a problem.
Speaker 1: But I think you w showed us WWF kind of
Speaker 1: showed us already that no matter how good you are
Speaker 1: in wrestling, your entrance music is thirty percent of why
Speaker 1: you mean anything, Like if Cody came to WW about
Speaker 1: the song, he would not be where he is today.
Speaker 1: Herd stop Sure sure, Yampunk Lost called the personality thirty
Speaker 1: percent less meaningful heart stop if the rock didn't have
Speaker 1: punt dum boom. We have to accept that that's a
Speaker 1: huge part of the reason that people come to wrestling
Speaker 1: is to cheer the entrance music, if not to sing along.
Speaker 2: Way, I agree with you, I agree with you, but
Speaker 2: I guess that's kind of a thing. Like you talk
Speaker 2: about Steve Austin and the Rock and they've got their
Speaker 2: own theme music which they can have it played anyway.
Speaker 1: Well, they meant to Jim Johnston, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: not everybody can have a Jim Johnston. But they tried
Speaker 1: ECW like they did have Mike Awesome. They had a
Speaker 1: song made just for him, like can you hear the
Speaker 1: song on Peacock because they owed that one. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: Dusty's music was made by an artist that they commissioned
Speaker 1: to do it, with the rights transferring over.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: But they just started so underground, you know, they started
Speaker 1: so shoestring budget. They started off so sort of punk
Speaker 1: that I'm sure never occurred to them. It's like, let's
Speaker 1: not give this guy a really cool song that everybody
Speaker 1: knows because in six years we're gonna have a videotape deal,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not sure. Yeah, And that's that's the
Speaker 1: thing about Ball. He never really fucking he never mapped
Speaker 1: it out to become a national promotion. They became a
Speaker 1: national promotion because they were doing such wild shit and
Speaker 1: interesting shit, but he never structured the business to become
Speaker 1: a national promotion. And that's really where the TNN thing
Speaker 1: was such an awkward fit, because it was like they
Speaker 1: were still trying to run the promotion the way they
Speaker 1: ran it when they, you know, were had a stitch
Speaker 1: together the network of syndicated television and we're on in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night, and they were happy with
Speaker 1: four hundred people buying tickets, you know, because they didn't
Speaker 1: run buildings that could handlem any more than that anyway, right, right,
Speaker 1: And when they get to the point where it should
Speaker 1: be a step change, they really didn't have They didn't
Speaker 1: really reconstitute the business, in my opinion, to be prepared
Speaker 1: to start addressing all of the new demands that being
Speaker 1: a bigger promotion acquired. Yeah, so again the ring and
Speaker 1: sign guy, remember sign Guy Dudley, Well, now he is
Speaker 1: Louis Dangerously Boss, so fucking.
Speaker 2: I'm sure his face is past. I fucking can't, I cannot.
Speaker 1: He's there, dresses Polly and the Dangerous aligns days with
Speaker 1: the hat and the cell phone and the blazer, and
Speaker 1: he grabs the mic from the ring announcer Bob Bartees.
Speaker 1: By the way, the original ring announcer and voice of
Speaker 1: BCW had left ECW the year before, apparently because he
Speaker 1: couldn't get his flights reimbursed. So Stephen Dangel was style
Speaker 1: holding the stick. C W Anderson and Danny Doring are
Speaker 1: in the ring at this point in time, and Louis Dangerously,
Speaker 1: who was sort of like their ring leader, is gesturing
Speaker 1: at fans and saying, I think you're in dan I
Speaker 1: think everyone in dan Berry has to shut up art
Speaker 1: about now. I've got an important announcement I'd like to make.
Speaker 1: They start chaining, asshole, and he says, tonight, I can
Speaker 1: proclaim myself as the hottest entity in professional wrestling today
Speaker 1: because I am the only one with enough guts to
Speaker 1: name a pay per view after himself, and I can
Speaker 1: do that because my name just happens to be and
Speaker 1: they cut him off. That was before my name is
Speaker 1: Paul Hayman, but he basically just said it. My name is, yeah,
Speaker 1: right right, my name just happens to be. And they
Speaker 1: scream and there's blow horns going off and stuff, and says,
Speaker 1: if you don't keep your mouth shut, I'll send c. W.
Speaker 1: Anderson out there to slap you all right in the face.
Speaker 1: And my name just happens to be. It pauses again
Speaker 1: and hits them with louis Dangerously and tonight I present
Speaker 1: to you beautiful Billy Wilds, who is part of the
Speaker 1: Dangerous Alliance in ECW as well. They enforcer c W
Speaker 1: Anderson my Dangerous Alliance and c W hits the c
Speaker 1: W hand sign looking looking like Scott Hudson.
Speaker 2: So fucking true. I didn't even think of that.
Speaker 1: And then Dora's out with Electron Roadkills, so they're not
Speaker 1: in the Dangerous Alliance that are posing the Dangerous Alliance.
Speaker 1: I misspoke there, Yeah, road killed the angry almised chicken plucker.
Speaker 2: By oh god, by the they're the new the new
Speaker 2: dangerous alliance. Thank you, Yes I do.
Speaker 1: I'm straight Hayman. Hayman should know better.
Speaker 2: I agree. You can't call something new, it just sucks.
Speaker 1: What about the New Rockers though, isn't that an exception?
Speaker 1: You're saying absolutely totally new Rockers are totally different.
Speaker 2: NEWNN, the new Uh, the new Blackjacks, New Coke Money,
Speaker 2: the new Steve Austin, the new kids on the block. Oh.
Speaker 2: You know who gets pissed off of the new kids
Speaker 2: on the block. John Sorrow.
Speaker 1: He doesn't like them, Well, he doesn't.
Speaker 2: He doesn't like them because he doesn't. He can't stand
Speaker 2: they call themselves new kids on the block. Still, I
Speaker 2: try to say, I tried to. Yeah, I try to explain. Well,
Speaker 2: it's just you know, it's their brand, Dad, Yeah, like
Speaker 2: the Young Bucks.
Speaker 1: They're going to be well, they don't right themselves anymore,
Speaker 1: but they're gonna be the Young Bucks even though they're
Speaker 1: forty wow something like that. But they call themselves Matthew
Speaker 1: Nicholas Jackson now that they're more heels. A fan is
Speaker 1: ide'ed as a cougar tries to kiss Danny Doring. An
Speaker 1: electric gets between them, screaming and her tight silver dress
Speaker 1: she's all pissed off that someone's hitting on dooring, So
Speaker 1: that's the that's the angle here or the gimmick. She's
Speaker 1: protective that we hear of the Dana Conda and I
Speaker 1: think we both know what that is. Ah cock upskirt
Speaker 1: cam as she steps into the ring, and Cyrus is
Speaker 1: calling for the upskirt cam despite his earlier protestations about
Speaker 1: raunch hunt Ynny. The music is dubbed over Danny during
Speaker 1: used to come out to a song called super bon
Speaker 1: Bond by a group called Soul Coughing. And if I
Speaker 1: was going back and researching these songs trying to remember,
Speaker 1: and it's like it comes right back to you. Man,
Speaker 1: you hear these songs again, you feel like you're watching
Speaker 1: ECW at the time. It's like, oh my god, I've
Speaker 1: had this beat my head my whole life, and I
Speaker 1: have no fucking idea where it came from. Super crazy
Speaker 1: song and like I have that like in my head
Speaker 1: and I have no idea where it comes from. And
Speaker 1: then I watched this stuff again, I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's probably it. That's probably the genesis of it.
Speaker 2: It's funny. Three or two from.
Speaker 1: Lancaster Pensylvania, the angry Amish warrior. Roadkill stands in the
Speaker 1: middle rope in the center. You know, he wouldn't stand
Speaker 1: in the corner. He'd stand in the middle of the
Speaker 1: ropes to show he was athletic or something like that,
Speaker 1: looking like jelly roll out there, Oh Dorgan, Roadkill versus
Speaker 1: beautiful Billy Wiles and C. W.
Speaker 2: Anderson.
Speaker 3: C W.
Speaker 1: Anderson, by the way, did get the blessing of Gene
Speaker 1: and only Anderson as he broke in in North Carolina
Speaker 1: based independence and was an early friend of Steve Corinos.
Speaker 1: Because Steve Carono actually lived in North Carolina for a
Speaker 1: brief period of time in the beginning of his career,
Speaker 1: had linked up with C. W. Anderson and helped get
Speaker 1: him into the company as at ECW as a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, and Karino for his own right before we
Speaker 1: move off of him, I mean, we failed to mention.
Speaker 1: Did you remember that angle in ninety six when Crush
Speaker 1: came back from prison and he pulled a fan over
Speaker 1: the front row and beat the shit out of him.
Speaker 2: I don't remember that exactly, but I remember I remember
Speaker 2: a Crush being that gimmick there, the guy he beat
Speaker 2: up with Steve Carino.
Speaker 1: No shit, did they hire as an extra to stand
Speaker 1: in the crowd and act like a mark for the
Speaker 1: whole two a half hour taping, screaming at all the heels,
Speaker 1: hearing all the baby faces, so that when Chrush came out,
Speaker 1: they think he was a real fan and he'd snatch
Speaker 1: him over the rail.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, all right, Good good for him, I guess.
Speaker 1: And he spent time in the you know, like the
Speaker 1: Funk and dojo and Dory Funk and Tom Pritchard set
Speaker 1: up a training camp with WWF and a warehouse in Connecticut,
Speaker 1: and that's where Kurt was trained, and Edge came in
Speaker 1: and went through there, and we know that whole circuit. A.
Speaker 1: Rocky got his early workouts there as well, and Karino
Speaker 1: got brought up there aslong, with Christopher Daniels and Devin
Speaker 1: Storm and some others because they were starting to recruit
Speaker 1: for their ill fated light heavyweight division, which we remember
Speaker 1: them introducing in nineteen ninety seven. Yeah, as they felt
Speaker 1: around desperately to match WCW's cruiserweight division, and Takimi Chinoko
Speaker 1: of course became the champion, and they were kind of
Speaker 1: sourcing talent for that big tournament they had and Karino
Speaker 1: Nord Daniels ended up getting signed from that, but for
Speaker 1: a while Steve Corino would would be going up on
Speaker 1: a regular basis to WWF shots to do jobs as
Speaker 1: an enhancement talent, and actually made quite a few connections there.
Speaker 1: End up going to work for them in a training
Speaker 1: capacity years after RECW closed. So c W Anderson Roadkill
Speaker 1: get the match started. A CW throws the left hand
Speaker 1: and they make a lot out of him using his left.
Speaker 2: Ew W and that's funny.
Speaker 1: The new c W Anderson was it wasn't SmackDown on CW.
Speaker 2: That's true. That's true. Was on the CW Roadkill.
Speaker 1: Whips him in c W ducks, but caught in a
Speaker 1: boss man or as they call it, a dirt road slam.
Speaker 2: I mean to me also, by the way, I didn't
Speaker 2: really I don't think. I say we've reached a real level.
Speaker 2: When Hayman is kind of like I don't know if
Speaker 2: he's making fun of himself or if he's like when
Speaker 2: when when he's made basically booked his own double, it's
Speaker 2: just weird, and that's not a good sign.
Speaker 1: Not not all, not at all creative. Well is running dry.
Speaker 1: Perhaps one may see because everyone would imitate Paul and
Speaker 1: I'd imagine one time he heard right, this guy imitated
Speaker 1: the body did great.
Speaker 9: C W.
Speaker 1: Roadkill Okay, yes, dirt road slam gets two on CW
Speaker 1: and then roadkill slam CW with the front power slam
Speaker 1: in the corner, goes up for a mid springboard elbow.
Speaker 1: Cyrus says that roadkill has deceptive strength, and the kind
Speaker 1: of deceptive strength you get from a lot of manual
Speaker 1: labor on the farm doing god knows what else and
Speaker 1: Intercourse Pennsylvania, Oh God, Dorian wilds now tackle. Dorian grabs
Speaker 1: his crotch because it's two thousand a hiptos, but he
Speaker 1: misses nailbow drop and Bill Wiles with the arm drag
Speaker 1: alo ricky steamboat.
Speaker 2: Cyrus says, I wouldn't go by the way. Nobody told
Speaker 2: me that Jake Roberts and JK. Simmons were working security
Speaker 2: in the show.
Speaker 1: I saw, Yeah, I missed that memo too. Billy Wiles
Speaker 1: was a guy who was like on the ECW ring
Speaker 1: truck crew for years and years and they finally let
Speaker 1: him wrestle. A lot of the guys that trained with
Speaker 1: Taz and Perry Satterd and the ECW dojo would be
Speaker 1: like Team Taz guys that would come out like with
Speaker 1: the jumpsuits and be Team Taz and they'd also drive
Speaker 1: the ring truck around. Danny Dorring spent quite a bit
Speaker 1: of time driving the ECW ring truck around, putting one
Speaker 1: time to a Boston show where on the stopover he
Speaker 1: swears he saw Paul Hayman pull out a w W
Speaker 1: headquarters with Vince McMahon and the white Corvette. That Haymn
Speaker 1: was so spooped that he was seen leaving Titan Towers
Speaker 1: that he insisted on getting together with Doring and whoever
Speaker 1: else he was with later. What exactly did you see? Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: that's what I want to know. What was your reaction
Speaker 1: when you saw me come on a Titan Towers? So
Speaker 1: the button chopped side burned Billy Wiles here mutton chopped,
Speaker 1: I should say not button chopped, roadkill, button chopped two yes,
Speaker 1: climbs as we said, in the middle of the ropes
Speaker 1: and does double clothes line to both opposition, putting them
Speaker 1: down the heels and are stacked up in the corner
Speaker 1: and dooring Whip's roadkill in for a splash, and then
Speaker 1: Doring drop kicks Billy. Danny Doring then does that bare back,
Speaker 1: which is kind of like a leaping reverse stunner, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: having you in front of me instead of behind you
Speaker 1: doing then launches off of a roadkill's back on all
Speaker 1: fours and planches onto all four on the outside of
Speaker 1: the ring back enduring with the right hand on c W.
Speaker 1: Whipp's verse drop down, and Billy Wiles comes in with
Speaker 1: a mist lariat but catches Danny Doring in a hilt.
Speaker 1: A World Power slam for two referre John Finnegan presiding
Speaker 1: by the way is.
Speaker 2: By the way? Is beautiful Billy Wiles a play on
Speaker 2: beautiful Bobby Eaton. I would think it is, yes, So
Speaker 2: because they were both part of the Dangerous Alliance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did a lot of that for sure. Originally,
Speaker 1: according to Danny Doring, they wanted Dooring to do kind
Speaker 1: of like a ravishing Rick Rude Dangerous Alliance gimmick and
Speaker 1: be part of the alliance and then shifted around. That
Speaker 1: was like Tommy Dreamer's idea, and then Paul didn't like that,
Speaker 1: so c W with a chicken wing slam sit out
Speaker 1: kind of thing that gets two kind of like hammer
Speaker 1: locks the arm before he sit sits out with the slam,
Speaker 1: and they awful. So they go on and on about
Speaker 1: how the Andersons were famed for the hammer lock and
Speaker 1: work in the arm and then slamming people on the arm,
Speaker 1: and they act like he's c W. Anderson is taking
Speaker 1: this to a whole new mind blowing level because he
Speaker 1: sits on his ass when he drops the guy instead
Speaker 1: of just drops him. You know, that's a revolutionary that's
Speaker 1: innovative that you gotta love that about pro wrestling. Sitting
Speaker 1: out with something I know, like it's like.
Speaker 2: Ooh, he sat out. He was like the laziest fucking
Speaker 2: thing in the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why would you do that to your own ass bone?
Speaker 1: Just drop the guy in his head? Like right, why
Speaker 1: you're worried about sitting down yourself. It's kind of weird.
Speaker 1: So doing turns into the corner with some chomps. There's
Speaker 1: some woos they're not afraid to do Rick lair woos
Speaker 1: and e CW crowds back then and then he double
Speaker 1: hits an exploder suplex, lift him and flips him for two.
Speaker 1: Wiles comes in. Cyrus says this is many of the dangerous,
Speaker 1: dangerously teams cutting and cutting and ring and half strategy
Speaker 1: here on display and watch tapes. Okay, don't try to
Speaker 1: watch tapes, and Joey says.
Speaker 2: Is funny there here this is. Yeah. I didn't have
Speaker 2: the response, but I hope that up.
Speaker 5: To that tell us the hallmark of many of dangerous
Speaker 5: these teams, tremendous team one cutting the ring and half.
Speaker 9: Many of dangerously these teams.
Speaker 2: It's only tag teams.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Don't you ever watch old tapes? You ever watched old tapes?
Speaker 1: That's such a wrestling phrase, old tapes.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's making reference to Ball Hayman. But you're
Speaker 1: not supposed to, I guess.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 1: Wiles lifts and drops Dooring on its head with the
Speaker 1: back suplex with a light tap from CW on a
Speaker 1: double team attempt. Then CW is throwing on dooring, Irish
Speaker 1: whip and hiptosis block Dooring with the g spot sweep,
Speaker 1: which is the stroke that Jeff Jarrett used to do
Speaker 1: basically but like a Russian leg sweep to roadkill comes
Speaker 1: in for the bumping feed emphasis on feed as.
Speaker 2: It regards this fucking gargantuan bitch.
Speaker 1: In a sidewalk slam on Billy Wiles and a tk
Speaker 1: O and c W Anderson the Amish drop. That was
Speaker 1: another thing, like you do the t k O and
Speaker 1: WWF when they when it's like you can't kick out
Speaker 1: of that WWF Man Peer four brawl corner mounts punches
Speaker 1: to the flying c W low blows and Roadkill is
Speaker 1: dumped over to the floor from the top rope, which
Speaker 1: is a pretty bad fall for him. Man of his
Speaker 1: size Wiles into the buckling dumps the line, catches the
Speaker 1: fourth catapulds dooring into c W who super kicks him?
Speaker 2: And how were they cheering for that stupid fucking Omish gimmick.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I never thought it over.
Speaker 2: I mean, then why is he on TV?
Speaker 1: Because he can he can do top rope splashes and
Speaker 1: he's fat, soa can my mom? Well, she wasn't available.
Speaker 1: They weren't booking women that way back then.
Speaker 2: Should have I would have done it.
Speaker 1: So yes, let's see, there's the superkick door and falls
Speaker 1: back in for a one to two, a late kickout
Speaker 1: as some Roadkill was kind of slow breaking up the count.
Speaker 1: So then c W whips I'll say, definitely very slow.
Speaker 2: I've heard that.
Speaker 1: Standing dooring hitt of the ropes hits the spine buster
Speaker 1: and it goes for it rather his patented spinebuster channeling
Speaker 1: arn Anderson, but its sidestepped. And then Danny Doring does
Speaker 1: the double underhook lift into a DDT which he called
Speaker 1: the wambam. Thank you, ma'am gets a one two as
Speaker 1: Wiles makes the save and it breaks down here a
Speaker 1: corner to corner. Danny Doring hits the corner, lifts the
Speaker 1: foot of the charge and then they do the heart
Speaker 1: attack finish, but except that Dooring comes off the middle
Speaker 1: rope instead of leaping off the canvas like Brett used
Speaker 1: to do. Right, they call it the Lancaster Lariat of lust.
Speaker 2: That's one thing.
Speaker 1: Then god ecw didn't overdue naming moves. That was one
Speaker 1: thing I was always doing for Danny Joring climbs as
Speaker 1: this Roadkill. There's a keating leg dropped by Danny Doring
Speaker 1: and then Roadkill comes up and he's supposed to jump
Speaker 1: off too, but Electra suddenly turns on Roadkill and crotches
Speaker 1: him on the top rope. And then Louis Dangerous turns
Speaker 1: on find with the phone and c W. Spine busts
Speaker 1: him for the one, two, and the three. The New
Speaker 1: Dangerous Alliance team of C. W. Anderson and Bill Wilds Toe,
Speaker 1: Danny Doring and roadkill in seven minutes and twenty three seconds.
Speaker 1: Here at ECW, Living Dangerously, Electra is now a heel.
Speaker 1: I know you were deeply intrigued by at the time.
Speaker 2: I didn't care then, I don't care now. I don't
Speaker 2: know what she is.
Speaker 1: I find out a little bit more later, which I regret,
Speaker 1: but yeah, she has a lot to say. Real named
Speaker 1: Donna Adamo from New York.
Speaker 2: Donna a dummy? Is that what you said? Said, Donna
Speaker 2: a dummy?
Speaker 1: Dummy? Yeah, that's right. She was known for her parents,
Speaker 1: according to Wikipedia, at least in the Sopranos as about
Speaker 1: a ban girl work, you know, sort of like a coyote.
Speaker 1: I'm a waitress, I think.
Speaker 2: Like I said it, you know, name anyone from that
Speaker 2: from the Trice area was fucking in the about a
Speaker 2: being girl in the Sopranos.
Speaker 1: Indeed, and she uh, she was a go go girl
Speaker 1: working with go go bars. And she would, I guess,
Speaker 1: perform oil wrestling at strip clubs. That whole thing. And
Speaker 1: Paul used to run in those New York club circuits
Speaker 1: in the very beginning, like Studio fifty four and stuff.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't surprise me if this is somebody that she kind
Speaker 1: of makes reference to it in her promo, And I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's like created out of thin air,
Speaker 1: that she has a history with Paul Hayman that basically
Speaker 1: we'll get to it, that she was like jilted by
Speaker 1: him because he promised to make her a star and
Speaker 1: then left her hanging. Would surprise me if that, you know,
Speaker 1: they actually ran into each other way back in the
Speaker 1: day when Paul was I mean, she sucks hanging around
Speaker 1: fucking strip club. It's just I have no idea where
Speaker 1: they brought her in. I have no idea what they
Speaker 1: saw in her, and I have no idea what they
Speaker 1: gave her mic time at all. Blessed, blessed the woman's heart.
Speaker 1: But it's awful. No, no, don't don't bless her at all.
Speaker 1: It's not okay. It didn't even register that she even
Speaker 1: turned heel watching the show until Joey starts to cry.
Speaker 2: Of course, that's probably that's part of the problem.
Speaker 1: They starts saying, if it wasn't for Danny dorring, she'd
Speaker 1: still just be a rat in the crowd. Oh, Sarah says,
Speaker 1: can you drop the K five lingo? No one understands,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's great at that. And then they
Speaker 1: talk about how Blue always gets the hottest women, which
Speaker 1: is supposed to just make pop Polly, and that's what
Speaker 1: we've seen here tonight, Cyrus declares. So we go backstage
Speaker 1: and the Impact Player is Just Incredible and land Storm
Speaker 1: along with their valet Don Marie, are doing a vignette,
Speaker 1: and Storm says, what's the promo? Says, we got ripped
Speaker 1: off in Cincinnati. Nobody walks out here except the Impact
Speaker 1: Players champions ripped off of course, and losing the tag
Speaker 1: titles to a Raven and Mike Awesome. Credible says, we're
Speaker 1: not just going to make a promise. He did way
Speaker 1: too many hand motions when Just Incredible talks way too many.
Speaker 1: I mean, the hands are going like you would not believe.
Speaker 2: I know, I know what's going on there. I don't
Speaker 2: know what's up with that.
Speaker 1: All I know is he said in his book that
Speaker 1: he one of the rules, one of the things he
Speaker 1: insisted on when he became ECW World Champion is that
Speaker 1: lines of coke be prepared for him in his dressing room,
Speaker 1: his private dressing room before he went out, so he
Speaker 1: could always count on a line to sniff before he
Speaker 1: parted the curtain.
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: And look, we saw him at Russell Cohn and he's fine.
Speaker 2: Totally fine, normal looking guy, no problems whatsoever.
Speaker 1: Tonight. We're making a guarantee, he says, we're going to
Speaker 1: win the championships. He's bobbing around like a fucking toy
Speaker 1: back there. Guarantee two time champs. Now, that's the coolest,
Speaker 1: the best in Storm says, that's a guarantee from Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
Speaker 1: That my friend is just incredible. They do the pose
Speaker 1: and they cut this out of the Peacack peacock version,
Speaker 1: but here peact they start showing, you know, the dates
Speaker 1: for upcoming house shows, including the Worcester Palladium home schedule,
Speaker 1: as well as the Ice Center and sail in New Hampshire.
Speaker 2: What's the fucking Worcester Palladium? You never been?
Speaker 1: No, where's that Milton, Worcester.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I know that, I mean where in Worster.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to describe the part of the city.
Speaker 1: It's in I went to an ECW show there once.
Speaker 1: It's like one of those venues where like it's all
Speaker 1: seats and in the stage with a curtain behind it.
Speaker 1: They put the ring on the stage, but there's no
Speaker 1: fans behind them.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's really range.
Speaker 1: I remember ICP used to go there all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a very ECW venue, definitely. But
Speaker 1: they were going to the Ice Center in Salem, New
Speaker 1: Hampshire for TV T being You ever been there?
Speaker 2: No, I have not been there. I don't know where
Speaker 2: that is, CANDUs, I think of what's that, I think
Speaker 2: of where that would be. I don't know.
Speaker 1: If you don't know, you don't know. It's Kansas City, Missouri.
Speaker 1: They're about to debut there in Wichitak, Kansas as well.
Speaker 1: They were about Tape TV and Richmond, Virginia. They're going
Speaker 1: over the place April first, Norfolk, April sixth, Cleveland, April seventh,
Speaker 1: Warn Ohio, the April eighth to Tape TV in Buffalo,
Speaker 1: then April thirteenth to Indianapolis and April fourteenth to Evansville.
Speaker 1: They were booked solid man, with no fucking clue, with
Speaker 1: no plan, just book.
Speaker 2: Solid and you got insane. Good for them.
Speaker 1: Joey tells everybody you ca get you free e cw
Speaker 1: brchandise catalog by sending a dollar for shipping and handling
Speaker 1: to the address on your screen. Simon Diamond makes his entrance,
Speaker 1: and that's also cut out of the Peacock version because
Speaker 1: it contains a song Drain but by a band called
Speaker 1: Drane Sith, which, as Simon says.
Speaker 2: Uh, then.
Speaker 1: Here's my other song that I didn't know. I knew
Speaker 1: until I watched this again. He had a great song,
Speaker 1: kid Rock. They also kept Kid Cash. They also cut
Speaker 1: his entrance out of the Peacock version because he used
Speaker 1: to come out to Bob with tabab By kid Rock.
Speaker 2: So there you go, all wonderful. Thanks.
Speaker 1: Kid Cash were kind dressed like kid Rock as well,
Speaker 1: with the hat and the leather pants.
Speaker 2: Who's the Who's the who's the the? The the skinny
Speaker 2: dweed guy with the red hair.
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't really have much of a tenure there,
Speaker 1: so I don't I can't tell you very much about him.
Speaker 1: He was just part of He was like supposed to
Speaker 1: be like a butler and Simon's Uh. Simon's stratosphere his
Speaker 1: orbit if you will. They called him Mitch, but I
Speaker 1: don't know anything about the guy. I don't know where
Speaker 1: he came from. I couldn't find hardly anything about the guy,
Speaker 1: so all right.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've always wondered because I think I've seen
Speaker 2: him before and he looks like an actor that I've
Speaker 2: seen in stuff, but I don't who the fuck he is.
Speaker 1: There's like a red thread here where they're talking about
Speaker 1: how the same thing I just talked about, how there's
Speaker 1: almost nothing about the guy.
Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's very strange. You some of these
Speaker 1: guys like we're just like hanging around, you know, and
Speaker 1: they just put them on TV. Yeah, Tommy Dreamer tweeted, Apparently,
Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen, I saw ECW alumni Mitch if Simon
Speaker 1: Diamond Entourage on HBO's Hard Knocks. He loves sports so much.
Speaker 1: Happy to see him doing his thing. I don't know
Speaker 1: what he would have been on an HBO for, but
Speaker 1: apparently he lived a double life.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Wow, So we're back in the ring, Simon Diamond and
Speaker 1: Kid Cash. Simon, of course has a problem.
Speaker 2: He takes the mic.
Speaker 1: The match that started as Cash versus Simon Diamond, who's
Speaker 1: injured at the time. So that's why this whole rigamarole
Speaker 1: takes place, and why Simon has gear on but doesn't wrestle.
Speaker 1: Jeff Jones comes out really for no apparent reason and says,
Speaker 1: you do have a problem. The music hits and he says,
Speaker 1: Cyrus is Joey, is this on your format? Whenever you
Speaker 1: hear the word format, Oh.
Speaker 2: God, I can't stand that. I can't stand at.
Speaker 1: I know you're in a great place. Ah so awesome steps.
Speaker 2: Out Not with the fucking format.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, remember bishops of the format of the crowd?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: I nauseates me.
Speaker 1: Rip the format in half. Television industry, lingo, just what
Speaker 1: I watched wrestling for format talk. Let's talk about the
Speaker 1: writer's room while we're at it, I know, and the
Speaker 1: powers that be and standards and practices and the guys
Speaker 1: in the back and the political bullshit in the back.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. So Mike Austin comes out the
Speaker 1: World Champion with both straps the tag belt in the
Speaker 1: World Tider. We're supposed to se him later tonight, of course,
Speaker 1: in the tag title defense, but he also make a
Speaker 1: little gonna make a cameo appearance.
Speaker 2: Here, boy, he's got to cut an extreme promo. Apparently,
Speaker 2: after all, you have more before I play, go ahead
Speaker 2: the way you two guys have the toys.
Speaker 4: Real fucking don't there.
Speaker 1: That's not necessary.
Speaker 12: You can't either get out of this ring and live,
Speaker 12: or you can stay in it and die.
Speaker 11: I know what I do.
Speaker 2: I'm excitement Malgine.
Speaker 5: He's gonna dow heavyweight Jen.
Speaker 1: That's where it ends.
Speaker 2: That's where it ends. He gets attacked, that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Simon pushes a Mitch into Awesome and then
Speaker 1: they all swarm on him, and then kid Cash goes
Speaker 1: after him, and Mike lifts and belly to belly overhead
Speaker 1: throws him and then whipped to the corner and barge
Speaker 1: in the corner by Mike Awesome like a cat on
Speaker 1: those leaps. Man, he could leave his feet, I'll give
Speaker 1: him that. He could soar. And he does a splash
Speaker 1: and he covers Cash and gets one two. And it's
Speaker 1: only when he goes for a cover that we realize
Speaker 1: that Mike Austam isn't just here kicking people's asses.
Speaker 2: This is somehow a match. Yeah, I don't know how
Speaker 2: that happened. But it happened somehow.
Speaker 1: The ECW Championship committee faxed over a signed paperwork in
Speaker 1: the interim here. So it's Mike Awesome versus Kid Cash
Speaker 1: and to a bout at ECW Living Dangerously two thousand
Speaker 1: that is mentioned in part one. The final pay per
Speaker 1: view appearance for Mike Austin is ZCW champion. He tosses
Speaker 1: Cash to the floor. Interesting floor it was with red
Speaker 1: and yellow stripes running on it there at the O'Neill Center.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that was about. No clue.
Speaker 1: Drives Cash into the rail, then gets kind of back
Speaker 1: dropped into the crowd. And then Cash is in the
Speaker 1: ring and does a springboard plancho that absolutely takes out
Speaker 1: Mike Austin into those chairs that didn't fold that they
Speaker 1: would have out there in the crack ec dub chance
Speaker 1: on the corpses of both men. Judge Jones is in
Speaker 1: Cash's face in the ring. Cash ducks a gavel shot
Speaker 1: as Judge Jones tries to hit him with that, and
Speaker 1: then Cash, who huh, judge, who Judge Jeff Jones?
Speaker 4: What well?
Speaker 1: I think books travel for fucking aw Now, of course
Speaker 1: he does double arm under hook fakes plant takes out
Speaker 1: Jeff Jones and then awesome.
Speaker 2: I heard great deals of Disney, great deals for Disney.
Speaker 1: Judge Jeff Jones, He's got to judge Judy of pro wrestling.
Speaker 1: That's what seems like awesome of the sling shot, shoulder
Speaker 1: blocking from the apron and that takes out Cash and
Speaker 1: then just he lands on Kid Cash's face. As a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, taking flight there, Styles says that Cash
Speaker 1: is Joe is just wired shut. So that's Styles. Joey
Speaker 1: Styles says that, so that's a high risk moment there
Speaker 1: for one Kid Cash corner to corner on the Whipon's side.
Speaker 1: Stepped Cash goes to the top rope in one fluid
Speaker 1: motion and leaps into her kanana, snapping over Mike awesome
Speaker 1: or is Joey Styles used to pronounce it hoodah hood
Speaker 1: end kanrana hood end h u d a m d.
Speaker 1: Mike Austin cuts him down with a lariat and Cyrus
Speaker 1: says it's like a clothes line from no one else
Speaker 1: in the history of the business there for Mike assam
Speaker 1: and goes so far as say that yeah, and Mike
Speaker 1: Assom lifts a lifts him up for the hard power
Speaker 1: bomb with a delay, the awesome bomb. He points to
Speaker 1: the table and they go nuts that he's going to
Speaker 1: do the classic power bomb the guy out of the
Speaker 1: ring to the floor through a table. He loads the
Speaker 1: table in the ring though, and then Cash is splayed
Speaker 1: out on it and Sarah says, the office is scared
Speaker 1: to death of this. Mike austome as he climbs to
Speaker 1: the top rope, but he's cut off by Kid Cash.
Speaker 1: Mike austom cuts him off on the high risk district
Speaker 1: and then he lifts he lifts Kid Cash while standing
Speaker 1: on the top fucking rope into power bomb formation. Talk
Speaker 1: about high risk, one slip, too many passed away.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know, fucking exactly. That's what's worth it. It's
Speaker 2: worth it to do that.
Speaker 1: He's holding a moment the razor's edge, Yes, and he
Speaker 1: drives him all the way from the top rope into
Speaker 1: the ring through a table.
Speaker 2: It's so, I mean, it's it's it's insane, It really is.
Speaker 2: It's insane.
Speaker 1: People are going insane when he does it. Joey hits
Speaker 1: the first Oh my god of the broadcast.
Speaker 2: Cover, which is you know, I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed he
Speaker 2: doesn't do a good one at all. Yeah, he doesn't
Speaker 2: break out the classic. It was very judicious about that.
Speaker 2: I have to give him credit. He was very oh
Speaker 2: he was. It was a thing like he would he
Speaker 2: could save it for real time, for real moments.
Speaker 1: There was one like, you know, really intense one that
Speaker 1: he would only do when they would do like the
Speaker 1: most insane stunts you can imagine, and he would too.
Speaker 1: Sometimes Two he'd deploy it when it was a big angle.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like that someone took a great risk. It
Speaker 1: was just like this, this has to be something that
Speaker 1: really gets across is a big moment. And he deployed
Speaker 1: then sometimes too.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm taking that. I'm thinking that.
Speaker 1: Four minutes and forty four seconds of Mike Awesome pins
Speaker 1: Kid Cash here at ECW, Living Dangerously. Cyrus says, there
Speaker 1: is no one in the wrestling business like Mike Awesome
Speaker 1: and what he's doing here in ECW. He was the
Speaker 1: first man to hold the world title in the tag
Speaker 1: title simultaneously in ECW, of course, not for long. He
Speaker 1: always both straps up and his song sounds like Welcome
Speaker 1: to the Jungle almost with the lyrics over it, new
Speaker 1: lyrics over it, extreme replay of the power bomb and
Speaker 1: Cash with the eyebrow ring of course, because it's two
Speaker 1: thousand and you want to be over. Of course I
Speaker 1: have an eyebrow ring in the wrestling ring. And then
Speaker 1: suddenly Jazz comes out and is tending to kid Cash,
Speaker 1: and Cyrus applies that there's more than just a friendship
Speaker 1: between these two. And then Syrus says I can just
Speaker 1: be friends with a woman, and Joey says I can.
Speaker 2: But you on the other hand, Okay, god fucking yeah.
Speaker 1: Again the TNA exit interview here, and then Simon Diamond
Speaker 1: gets to the ring, and then Jotto and Gato this
Speaker 1: for they were in New Japan. They were in what
Speaker 1: d D T or FMW at the time. They come
Speaker 1: out and start, are you asking me? Like I fucking
Speaker 1: know you know these guys at all?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: I fucking I mean, first of all, like they said,
Speaker 2: they said Shadow and Gato, and I wrote down c
Speaker 2: h A t oh shad g Gato like g A
Speaker 2: t O awesome, No fucking idea who these fucking guys were.
Speaker 1: Gato is the booker for New Japan, and he was
Speaker 1: the booker that sort of let you know, spark the
Speaker 1: renaissance for that company. Starting in twenty twelve through to
Speaker 1: like twenty twenty, so he's much more known for and
Speaker 1: he's like a manager. Turn heel on Ocada. So when
Speaker 1: I know he is, tell me when I'm supposed to
Speaker 1: cure right right about there? You know, sorry, I tried,
Speaker 1: I tried. I couldn't do it.
Speaker 2: It's fair.
Speaker 1: So they come out there stomping on jazz. What he
Speaker 1: can you can get, you can get out of here.
Speaker 1: This didn't work, I know, get out of getto out
Speaker 1: of here. Yet it's almost Gato, get o down here,
Speaker 1: Getuda here.
Speaker 2: Gudda here.
Speaker 1: The music hits and everyone uh smoked smoked goody.
Speaker 2: Like that we got we got smoke Gouda here.
Speaker 1: This guy's always like running like a market on like
Speaker 1: the sidewalk, you know, screaming at people what he's got. Hey, Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: good eat that Christmas rash two for ten.
Speaker 2: We're gonna smoke guddha alight just for your potties.
Speaker 1: That's smoke for your potties. Yeah, everyone goes to source
Speaker 1: smoked Gouda from the sidewalk for I tell you smoke Godda.
Speaker 1: That's a hell of a tag team.
Speaker 2: Shot over and smoked Gouda.
Speaker 1: Smoked and Guda smoked, Guddha.
Speaker 2: Smoked. It is a guy named smoked. There's a guy
Speaker 2: named Guda, and together they're Smoked Guda. That's perfect.
Speaker 1: They'll be taking on the team of smoked and Salmon.
Speaker 1: I understand it gets even more complicated when you smoke it.
Speaker 1: So the music hits and you can see everybody react.
Speaker 1: But on Peacock they dubbed the music over, so it's
Speaker 1: fucking like, why are people going so crazy? It's because
Speaker 1: Nova is coming out. And Nova used to come out
Speaker 1: to Intergalactic by.
Speaker 2: The Baci Boys.
Speaker 1: You remember that song and Barelyic Planet Harry Plant, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, a huge late ninety song. So
Speaker 1: they come out Nova and Chris Chetti, more particularly Nova
Speaker 1: with his fucking Venom inspired outfit from Spider Man.
Speaker 2: Might as well call them Locks and Panshetta.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Nova, smoke Nova, it's more like it.
Speaker 2: In Panetta.
Speaker 1: In Panchetta, what's his finish or the Nova locks the
Speaker 1: smears the Capers and the Capers and smear the Caper crusader.
Speaker 1: But enough about Paul's breakfast spread. That's what that's when
Speaker 1: you knew Paul had thrown in the tallities W when
Speaker 1: he brought in locks and schmear. Yeah, no time, team champions.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you something, what is your finish tonight?
Speaker 1: Nova Chetty versus Gatto and.
Speaker 2: Hado So, oh my god, by way, I will say uh,
Speaker 2: I do appreciate Nova wearing uh an outfit inspired by
Speaker 2: Spider Man's symbio outfit.
Speaker 1: Sure from the comic books Absolutely Black Spider Man. Absolutely
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. They had a Gato and
Speaker 1: Jido had a pretty terrific match against Just Incredible and
Speaker 1: land Storm shortly after coming over.
Speaker 2: To ECW earlier in the year. So great, love it,
Speaker 2: so excited, double whip on.
Speaker 1: Joddo, double Hiplock almost kills him, and a flip splash
Speaker 1: and an elbow double team by Nova. And Chetty was
Speaker 1: a cousin of Taz and also one of the graduates
Speaker 1: of the school as well.
Speaker 2: Oh so you might have actually been Panchette. Then that
Speaker 2: might have been Tazan Chetty is not for nothing, not
Speaker 2: for nothing. Hey, you could be Italian Bacon Panchetty. Hey, Chetty,
Speaker 2: come here, you gotta get a good grip. You want
Speaker 2: to talk Red Hook ec W.
Speaker 1: Yato, Gato comes up the top and gets caught by Nova,
Speaker 1: and which used to happen to me too. I mean
Speaker 1: that that was a fascinating TV show.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, No, I do remember Nova on PBS.
Speaker 1: Tilt World heads Man. Though for Agato we got.
Speaker 2: Cyrus making comments on how Jado and Gato and Judo
Speaker 2: have adjusted to uh to America. The foreigners are adopting
Speaker 2: very well here to this very artment. What the foreigners
Speaker 2: aren't you from Canada? Nova gets to think in the
Speaker 2: United States is another province.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna You're not gonna have the last word
Speaker 1: with this guy.
Speaker 2: You're simply not I'm gonna give I'm gonna give him
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, You keep giving him enough mulligans,
Speaker 1: and pretty soon you got to change your opinion on
Speaker 1: a guy. No, he's still ugly, Well, yeah he's not.
Speaker 1: He's not trying to get he's not trying to be
Speaker 1: a baby face here. He knows he's ugly.
Speaker 2: No, I listen, I'm I'm I'm I told you, I
Speaker 2: told you he was funny. I just I can't stand
Speaker 2: his voice. I can't stand his look. I can't stand
Speaker 2: the fact that when he when he when he when
Speaker 2: he shoots his head back, he loses his chin.
Speaker 1: Do you know that he's got a bald head? Now
Speaker 1: it looks like a penis walking around.
Speaker 8: I do.
Speaker 2: I've seen him. I've seen I've seen clips of of
Speaker 2: when he when he was managing h Yeah, that guy.
Speaker 1: Indeed, he has his buddy from uh that was like
Speaker 1: his nephew almost growing up.
Speaker 2: He looks like yeah right, he looks like even looks
Speaker 2: like a he he looks like a penis or or
Speaker 2: a skin tag. You know, it's like this fucking head
Speaker 2: is like kind of like one shape, it goes up.
Speaker 2: It's like a skin tag or.
Speaker 1: Hot tag, as he would say, So getto off. Caught
Speaker 1: by Nova, tiltortal headsays or lands though for Gato, Cheddy
Speaker 1: and Nova are on the floor and there's a baseball
Speaker 1: slide kick as Gato does a springboard loon salt off
Speaker 1: the middle rope to take both of them out. Joey
Speaker 1: Stalle says, they weren't scheduled for this pay per view,
Speaker 1: yet here they are.
Speaker 2: And great. I mean, I guess you could have drawn money,
Speaker 2: but you didn't.
Speaker 1: Framed with I don't think and he buys to see
Speaker 1: Gaeto and Jotto but framed as a these two being
Speaker 1: on the cutting edge of Japanese wrestling at the time.
Speaker 2: I don't know about that. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know anyway, the nacy junior heavyweight tag team scene,
Speaker 1: but yeah, the just emerging junior heavyweight tag team scene
Speaker 1: in Japan.
Speaker 2: They helped.
Speaker 1: Jud heavyweight tag straps and everything. Young Bucks did it,
Speaker 1: miss several others. So Nova then hooks a power bomb. Well,
Speaker 1: he used to do it. He'd power bomb you and
Speaker 1: as you're coming down, he'd put his elbow between your
Speaker 1: crotch and also driving elbow in your knuts. Nova was
Speaker 1: one of those guys like I'm gonna do I'm gonna
Speaker 1: add six steps to every.
Speaker 2: Move, you know.
Speaker 1: That was his whole, whole fucking gimmick. He called the
Speaker 1: Sledge of Mattic And then Cheddy comes in and gets
Speaker 1: crossed up, and there's some you fucked up chance, which
Speaker 1: isn't isn't a bright spot, but it's the only one
Speaker 1: in the car, which is ironic considering it's the Vic
Speaker 1: Rhimes event.
Speaker 2: That's the ultimate you fucked up?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, Cheddy hits the axe kick and tags
Speaker 1: and Nova Nova with a pil Nelson on Gato drop
Speaker 1: down into a wheelbarrow, pickup to the ropes they go,
Speaker 1: and then Cheddy snaps the neck down and that allows
Speaker 1: Nova and then carry Gato and dump him on his
Speaker 1: face for two Gato runs in, runs Nova into Joddo,
Speaker 1: who enters the ring and drops both of them. Team
Speaker 1: no respect in FMW is what Gato and Jiddo were called.
Speaker 1: That's they're called no respect. Why probably because they didn't
Speaker 1: get any makes sense walking authority. That was their whole thing,
Speaker 1: not getting any respect from me. Cheddy whips uh Jotto
Speaker 1: out of the rail, but he back drops Cheddy back
Speaker 1: into the ring back in a double whip. Nova does
Speaker 1: a drop toe hold and uh, I don't know. Then
Speaker 1: Ghetto drops an elbow on him. Nova gets dropped toe
Speaker 1: hold it I should say, is that a word? Get
Speaker 1: dropped toe holded? I don't know, drop toe held, drop
Speaker 1: toe He was dropped toed held hold holded holding and
Speaker 1: then Cyrus calls him kto that. Then that's the heen
Speaker 1: and you're talking to me when he gets called out
Speaker 1: for misidentified.
Speaker 2: That's fat. That's all right, I'll give him that.
Speaker 1: Getto now with a surfboard stretch talking.
Speaker 2: Wait are you talking? Kato dude? Right?
Speaker 1: Kato institute Brother Kato getting pushed?
Speaker 2: Brother? What is it? Paul Diamond? Kato dude? What so many? Right?
Speaker 1: Ghetto applies to surfboard stretch, exposing Nova so Gato can
Speaker 1: drop the sledgehammer on him. Jetto with some chops in
Speaker 1: the corner on Nova charges into his back elbow. Nova
Speaker 1: climbs back into the ring. He gets tripped up and
Speaker 1: Shadow comes up after and hits a top rope back
Speaker 1: superplex on Nova. Gato apparently means outlaw we're told, so okay,
Speaker 1: the outlaw way or something like that. He goes to
Speaker 1: the middle rope, but he's caught and Nova hit some
Speaker 1: of the sit out power bomb as he tries to
Speaker 1: Rana tag to Chedty Chedty cooking now whips reversed wastelatters.
Speaker 2: Nobody, nobody gives a shit. They're doing moves. They're doing moves.
Speaker 2: I understand they're doing moves, but the crowd doesn't fucking care.
Speaker 2: He like he was. It was a it was as
Speaker 2: cold as ice. Tag to to uh wait to to
Speaker 2: shitty Cheddy there and and even even after doing the German,
Speaker 2: the crowd doesn't give a ship.
Speaker 1: Ever saw much in Chris Chitty never got it.
Speaker 2: He got hurt.
Speaker 1: He showed a little bit of promise, then he got
Speaker 1: hurt when he came back and was like, all right,
Speaker 1: this guy clearly is just like a guy there keeping
Speaker 1: around because he's sort of homegrown and has the task
Speaker 1: connection well.
Speaker 2: And probably because they don't fucking have anybody else. Everyone's
Speaker 2: leave him for greener pastures. He drops jod Or horribly
Speaker 2: and say long greener pastures. Cheddy then hits the blue
Speaker 2: thunderbomb on Gato. Cheddi tries a backslide, but Nova kicks
Speaker 2: him into the kicks him in the face and that
Speaker 2: puts him into a backslide. Uh, and goes with the
Speaker 2: one two three, but no, he kicks out Gator, then
Speaker 2: super kicks Cheddy down to the canvas, lifts up Nova
Speaker 2: in a soup lex and then turns that into like
Speaker 2: a power bomb.
Speaker 1: Yeah kind of deal. Yeah, it gets to double whip
Speaker 1: on Cheddy, Duck, superkick down Gato, double clothes line, double
Speaker 1: down all the guys on the canvas. Novell goes up
Speaker 1: top with the swanton on Jado and then Gato with
Speaker 1: a great frog splash. We'll cover double kickout, Jamalino getting
Speaker 1: a workout. Cheddy does kind of the Harlem sidekick on Gato,
Speaker 1: and then Jodo was dropped with a running high kick.
Speaker 1: The Amityville horror by Cheddy on Gato. I forget what
Speaker 1: that was. Was that like him, I know it's a
Speaker 1: movie or something. Yeah, Mityville horror was that you'd give
Speaker 1: the guy a t k O. But you sit out
Speaker 1: with and when you sit out with things in wrestling
Speaker 1: till my point earlier, so much more devastating.
Speaker 2: You sit out with it. What I don't get it.
Speaker 1: You can have five you sit out with it.
Speaker 2: But you always said sat back.
Speaker 1: He would sit down.
Speaker 2: That cool.
Speaker 1: Sure he turned into a stunner. Maybe he turn into
Speaker 1: a sunner when he sat out. I don't care. They
Speaker 1: did the title weight that was their tag team move.
Speaker 1: There's a splash, no leg drop at the same time,
Speaker 1: one two three no Venchetti, Jado and Gato in seven
Speaker 1: minutes and thirty three seconds here a living dangerously. It
Speaker 1: was framed as an upset considering how long Gato and
Speaker 1: Jado had been teaming together in Japan, and pushed is
Speaker 1: the biggest win in Chris Chetti his careers.
Speaker 2: That's great, and I fucking I agree. It was the biggest,
Speaker 2: biggest win for both of them.
Speaker 1: No telling what would have happened with these two and
Speaker 1: they're upside hung on a little longer a little sad.
Speaker 1: Lou Dangerously is in the locker room.
Speaker 2: Oh man, this is this is I I care. I
Speaker 2: got that we have to hear from Electra after what
Speaker 2: she I I'll tell you like I didn't care about Electra,
Speaker 2: and I care. I can tell you what I do care,
Speaker 2: but I care in the fact that I never want
Speaker 2: to see her.
Speaker 1: You're invested in, like efforts being undertaken to keep her
Speaker 1: away from your television.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's how much I care, Like I need her
Speaker 2: to I'm I might talk to a lawyer tomorrow and
Speaker 2: restrain and get a restraining order on her, Like anything
Speaker 2: that has to do with her needs to be away
Speaker 2: from me. So if they need to move my TV
Speaker 2: anytime an ECW show comes up, that's fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure you wouldn't protest. Let's hear why you're
Speaker 1: so worked up here.
Speaker 2: I do have the whole thing with with with Lewis
Speaker 2: dangerously Paul Hayman.
Speaker 6: There's tons of people in the world that hate you.
Speaker 2: Let alone women, but hell, hath.
Speaker 3: No what.
Speaker 2: I under that was all about to by the way,
Speaker 2: well he does, yeah, let alone women.
Speaker 1: Because Electra has yet to explain that she has a
Speaker 1: history with Paul Hayman, I say lou is making reference
Speaker 1: to it. Before the cart, before the horse. Yeah, I'll say.
Speaker 13: Fury as a woman scored because when the women want
Speaker 13: to push, they know where to come.
Speaker 2: I mean, really, really, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm disturbed at the the suggestion that he's
Speaker 1: actually channeling the way PAULI really is like these are
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I'm deeply disturbed by all the
Speaker 1: Paul it doesn't hesitate to her friend a lovely lady.
Speaker 2: Let's put it that one. Of course, I listen, I
Speaker 2: would not put that past him at all.
Speaker 14: Hey, Paul, how long do we know each other?
Speaker 2: Ten eleven years? I mean I can't.
Speaker 1: I mean we're off to a really bad start at
Speaker 1: Worries Coasters. We can handle the New York accent.
Speaker 2: I I I.
Speaker 1: Adore the New York accent in so many contexts.
Speaker 2: But here sure, and I like, and you know what,
Speaker 2: I'm a fan of that really that that that that
Speaker 2: really thick you know, New Jersey type two, that accent,
Speaker 2: like I get it and it's it's fine, but this
Speaker 2: is just like it's also like she doesn't know how
Speaker 2: to speak right.
Speaker 1: And you know you can hear the cigarettes on her voice.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, I think she swallowed a few before the show.
Speaker 5: What.
Speaker 2: Oh well, you guess too.
Speaker 1: Remember all those nights we hung out at the China
Speaker 1: Club when you were a big somebody and I was
Speaker 1: a nobody and you could have helped.
Speaker 2: Me, but you didn't. When was Paul Hyman ever a
Speaker 2: big somebody?
Speaker 1: Oh, if anyone can convince you he is, it'd be him.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 11: And I real personal animosity towards you, because you're nothing
Speaker 11: but the man Man Man.
Speaker 1: Danny during.
Speaker 10: I'm a psycho bitch.
Speaker 2: I'm jealous, jealous of what.
Speaker 15: I'm a woman in her thirties who could have anyone
Speaker 15: or anything she wants, and you couldn't hang with me.
Speaker 5: Because you're a little boy, rude kill.
Speaker 11: You want to rid me in the back, tell everybody
Speaker 11: about missing flights, just tear me up personally.
Speaker 6: You want to know why you personally hate me.
Speaker 10: I personally hate you.
Speaker 5: And I know why you hate me too, because you
Speaker 5: are jealous because.
Speaker 4: You're bigger than mine.
Speaker 6: There just happens to be a new boss in town,
Speaker 6: and his name happens to be lou E.
Speaker 3: We're doing an angle to get rid of Amy, which
Speaker 3: we did another one that they aired.
Speaker 2: This one they didn't air.
Speaker 15: The real one is Dereena, where we walk out there
Speaker 15: with Amy and and we'll do a gimmick where I
Speaker 15: tell her I bang rats all the time and that
Speaker 15: the next thing, and she's like yeah.
Speaker 3: She gets mad because she thought she was.
Speaker 15: The only one and I want to paint her in
Speaker 15: my finish and Roko gives her a big splash what
Speaker 15: she was nervous about because Rokio hater. She pretty sure
Speaker 15: he was gonna kill. Everybody took care of her. But
Speaker 15: I remember getting to the arena going, okay, just to
Speaker 15: blow off ang. I wonder what we're gonna do.
Speaker 14: And I see this girl sitting there and she's just
Speaker 14: you know, she's chain smoking, and she's she's got that
Speaker 14: deep voice, you know what I mean, you know, and uh,
Speaker 14: and I go, oh shit, I wonder what I wonder.
Speaker 15: I wonder, I wonder wheal they're putting her with. I'm
Speaker 15: telling you, I want you to use your new manager.
Speaker 2: I popped.
Speaker 15: I was like, oh, And so we get out there
Speaker 15: and I remember she's carted cutting a promo in the
Speaker 15: ring and I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't.
Speaker 15: Maybe that's why they aired it. I've never even seen
Speaker 15: it on TV or the footage. I don't even know where.
Speaker 15: But like, I don't know if I was biting my
Speaker 15: lip or just popping, but she's just going, why would
Speaker 15: you want hamburger?
Speaker 8: Flaming, a bouncing give me and roadkill is just popping
Speaker 8: right behind me out loud. Amy's popping, and I'm just
Speaker 8: like because it was just like it was just scary,
Speaker 8: you know what I mean, because I didn't know, like
Speaker 8: she was just so in your face.
Speaker 3: It was just and she but that she whatever.
Speaker 15: Then what happened was we were doing we're doing shows
Speaker 15: and that the next thing, and and she's missed a
Speaker 15: whole bunch of TV appearances.
Speaker 3: What happened was she were on a plane.
Speaker 2: We're leaving.
Speaker 15: Its always funny. We were going actually Wisconsin, and the
Speaker 15: plane got canceled. She's the only one on at the
Speaker 15: airport and we're like, Dona, don't even bother get in
Speaker 15: here because the planes were not taking off. We I'm
Speaker 15: gonna leave tomorrow. She's like, oh, I know, PAULI called me,
Speaker 15: told me to stay home. The planes aren't getting out.
Speaker 15: You know the rest of us, you know, to me,
Speaker 15: the Simon Diamonds and dor Maries, the big sALS, everybody
Speaker 15: else at the airport.
Speaker 3: She's the only one who knows. So that was weird.
Speaker 3: But she the next week, we're going there. We're starting
Speaker 3: to work with throm Rie.
Speaker 15: It's uh just incredible and land storm right and she
Speaker 15: gets on there and they go, we're gonna be delayed
Speaker 15: for takeoff just a few minutes. We have one more
Speaker 15: item or an inventory that was unidentified. Uh don't we
Speaker 15: have to identify real quick. It was like an extra
Speaker 15: bag of peanuts or a fucking fire something something out
Speaker 15: of it, and she's think.
Speaker 3: She starts screaming and she and we're all like playing,
Speaker 3: like what the fuck is this?
Speaker 15: And she just leaves the plane the whole weekend so
Speaker 15: we don't do so Cheddy and Nova get to fucking
Speaker 15: get get the push because they got jazz with him.
Speaker 15: You know that that don'ld likely do a trio and
Speaker 15: uh so then she like next weeks she started missing
Speaker 15: TVs and then she makes sporadic shots and so finally
Speaker 15: me rokill.
Speaker 3: We're just sitting around when they were listen, man, I
Speaker 3: go fuck it.
Speaker 15: Let's go talk to Tommy and say, uh, you know
Speaker 15: we don't want her, you know, we we can't you
Speaker 15: know what I mean, if if, if, our whole our
Speaker 15: whole push is gonna be based on a fucking woman,
Speaker 15: and what the fuck are we doing here.
Speaker 3: Let's try to make this happen to see if we
Speaker 3: can get steam on our own or just fuck it right,
Speaker 3: And he's like, you're right.
Speaker 15: So we went and talked Tommy and he goes, okay,
Speaker 15: but we're a you know, it's gonna drop you guys down.
Speaker 3: You know, down the ladder. Though, being he was honest
Speaker 3: about it, and he was like yeah.
Speaker 15: So then we worked with We dropped her the dangerous
Speaker 15: lines and that's you know, we basically asked, so we
Speaker 15: try to get over on her own without having a girlfriend.
Speaker 15: I mean, anything was great. Donna was good because you know,
Speaker 15: we had we finally had. We did some funny promos.
Speaker 15: She had these big monster tits that bounced all over
Speaker 15: the place. I mean, guys like that and this that
Speaker 15: The next thing about it is, but at one point,
Speaker 15: at some point, we're just kind of like, you know, your.
Speaker 3: Egos, like, you know, I want to check it over
Speaker 3: that being with a chick all the time, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 1: So the story of Electraea, it's a bomb. Can you
Speaker 1: imagine her? She laughs? Wait a minute, when Daniel Doran
Speaker 1: just told that story, there was no indication of her
Speaker 1: being evil about it. She was paranoid about can't you
Speaker 1: picture bless her looks like this, freaking out like on
Speaker 1: a plane.
Speaker 2: Can you not picture? Oh god, absolutely, yeah, exactly. I mean, listen, listen,
Speaker 2: a woman like her thinks everybody's out toget her. All right,
Speaker 2: there absolutely would be a bomb on her plane.
Speaker 1: She kind of gonna dance, and she kind of she
Speaker 1: looks forward to a guy taking it too far so
Speaker 1: she can make a big like you know what I mean, investigation.
Speaker 2: Out of it. Yeah, she wants to, you know, she
Speaker 2: she wants the guy to just you know, she'll push
Speaker 2: it to one point so she can really fuck the
Speaker 2: guy over.
Speaker 1: Absolutely a big scene, big drama. She she likes ending
Speaker 1: the night screaming in a parking lot. You know, Electra
Speaker 1: can try to fuck me. Electra did you.
Speaker 2: Did you hear the promo.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's bad enough on audio, but if you
Speaker 1: watch the video and you see her wonder and you
Speaker 1: see her reaching for what to say next.
Speaker 2: It's so bad. It's so bad.
Speaker 1: It has to be a story here with this this
Speaker 1: woman and how she got into this position.
Speaker 2: There has to be.
Speaker 1: Because that because because I mean, I know that the
Speaker 1: accent isn't gender specific, but it's one thing to hear
Speaker 1: Vince Russo.
Speaker 2: Talk like that.
Speaker 1: It yeah right, it's it is like it's really a
Speaker 1: woman you as sort of like you know, like an
Speaker 1: erotic dancer character, and then that comes down to her mouth.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh right, my god, I was gonna say,
Speaker 2: did I ever tell you this story? VFW Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: the yeah you're in here, the Wakefield Social Club.
Speaker 1: The stepas got an accent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's it's like, you know, like there there was
Speaker 2: one that was like, you know, she was kind of attractive,
Speaker 2: and then she came out with the biggest fucking soufie
Speaker 2: accent you can possibly imagine, and it was just like
Speaker 2: any kind of of of of remote attraction that there
Speaker 2: was there.
Speaker 1: That's so unfair to her beautiful Boston women.
Speaker 2: It absolutely is listen, it is, and I'm sorry, but
Speaker 2: it's so true. It's so true. There was when I
Speaker 2: just graduated high school. I it was back in my
Speaker 2: days of of doing wedding videography, fucking Christ. And I remember,
Speaker 2: you know, I met I met this. I met a
Speaker 2: girl at at at like a I doing like friends
Speaker 2: weddings like it wasn't it wasn't, you know, in relatives
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and and I I got a
Speaker 2: I I remember, and I met this girl and I
Speaker 2: actually had the balls all right to go up and
Speaker 2: like ask for her number or something like that. And
Speaker 2: and I said, you know, said hey, what's you know,
Speaker 2: it's like, what's your name? And she said, oh, my
Speaker 2: name's Jen Cotta. And I was like, oh, she's like Italian,
Speaker 2: I know. Like I was like, oh yes, and how
Speaker 2: do you spell that? C O T T as O
Speaker 2: T T. I was like, oh, all right, and maybe
Speaker 2: I won't to call you so bad.
Speaker 1: Let me let me let me tell you something. Your
Speaker 1: fucking asshole, you're not too much to look at yourself?
Speaker 2: Yeah, your little fuck, your fat fuck.
Speaker 1: Oh big fucking loss. Yeah, can't fucking jp sorrow? What
Speaker 1: am I gonna fucking do now you fucking I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get my fire fighter boyfriend to beat that ship out
Speaker 1: of you. After some scorpion bowls were wearing Timbaland's on
Speaker 1: a Saturday night.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go skiing in jeans this weekend. What do
Speaker 2: you doing? I'm gonna go up to winn Asaki. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna do some some downhill Like what choose.
Speaker 1: It, man, I'm gonna do a halmshow for the week.
Speaker 1: What'd you guys go? What a hampshot? We a white
Speaker 1: Mountain's gonna Hampshire?
Speaker 2: Come?
Speaker 11: What have.
Speaker 2: People? Like?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 1: What the fuck?
Speaker 2: They could be? Okay? Yeah, so what are you doing?
Speaker 2: Sh s s h h.
Speaker 11: H.
Speaker 1: They're Shire and they're shop. They're fucking sho.
Speaker 2: Wished the ship? You know mind? You know you know
Speaker 2: what my daughter does to really really piss me off.
Speaker 2: What is she will call conquered concord. It drives me.
Speaker 1: Nuts, obnoxious. You guys go to Billy You mean concord, Dad?
Speaker 1: Shut up? Conk flight of the Concords.
Speaker 2: That's right? Is that peabody? No, it's pa the whole the.
Speaker 11: Like.
Speaker 2: By the time you get to the d y, you're like,
Speaker 2: this is taking too long. It was.
Speaker 1: My brothers and baby, you know, got a place in
Speaker 1: a uh and he got there. Can you go up
Speaker 1: there in canoe? You know, I post on Facebook if
Speaker 1: you want to see him. And we're making smalls.
Speaker 2: Here see that he's gonna, she's gonna, he's busting.
Speaker 1: Weather was beautiful. I heard that. Uh ah, I heard
Speaker 1: the Mike Lowell's family used to stay there, remember him,
Speaker 1: mit Mike Lowell?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no ship.
Speaker 1: Well my Mike, my cousin used to work a Fenway, right,
Speaker 1: and uh, he's like, dude, you would not believe dude,
Speaker 1: Mike Lowell's cock side because you know, he worked for
Speaker 1: he worked for Fenway, but he kind of worked for
Speaker 1: like the venue more than the team, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And so one time he's in the locker
Speaker 1: room and he said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he went, actually he worked for he was really
Speaker 2: worked for, you know, the sausage stand for the sausage stand,
Speaker 2: all right, for the strapped department, Hot dog Hu t hut,
Speaker 2: hot dog, hot chocolate.
Speaker 1: So this is what Electra does. She electrifies that fucking
Speaker 1: cast is what she does. I'm electrified like a tesla
Speaker 1: right now. Bitch, Oh fuck my life. So yeah, all.
Speaker 1: This is quite an accent on on electric.
Speaker 2: It's just it's not okay. It's not okay. Someone needs
Speaker 2: to get a hold of her and get her to
Speaker 2: calm down.
Speaker 1: I called an audible there. I played that clip cold.
Speaker 1: You know that was Danny Doring, right, I didn't, but
Speaker 1: I figure and the Amy he's talking about in the
Speaker 1: beginning his leader is right. So Electra is the replacement
Speaker 1: for Leda as the valet for Danny Dorian roadkill.
Speaker 2: Oh you know, Paul, I'm talking about bringing up them,
Speaker 2: bringing up Amy as Leada works there. So we're going
Speaker 2: to bring her up and take her from you. If
Speaker 2: that's okay, do you mind? It doesn'tally matter if your
Speaker 2: mind or not. It's already happened. Contract side voicemail, A
Speaker 2: voicemail a lot of chance to object, and uh, I mean,
Speaker 2: I hope.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, if you have any problems with it, you
Speaker 2: just keep that to yourself, because if you're call me back,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to answer. And I'm going to just
Speaker 2: keep on poaching people as I deem fit, as I
Speaker 2: bite that tattoo on her shoulder. I'll tell you what
Speaker 2: I've already had a nibble of of the woman who
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call Lita like Lowlita.
Speaker 1: You get my drip styles, didn't She rios unbelievable, has
Speaker 1: the greatest moon salt in in a wrestling game history. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she sure does a lot of hanging. No, no, not her,
Speaker 1: not her, I'm.
Speaker 2: Talking about cereal in the fucking no Mercy. That that incredible.
Speaker 2: Just massive moon time is remarkable. Yeah. Yes.
Speaker 1: And so when in that promo, Electra makes reference to
Speaker 1: Roadkill making fun of her for the flight issues, you
Speaker 1: heard Danny Dorring explain exactly what that's about. Yep, that's
Speaker 1: a bomb.
Speaker 3: It's a bomb.
Speaker 1: There's like a ninety percent chance that she's got a
Speaker 1: relative on FDN Y or NYPD that like responded to.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, oh for sure, for sure. Or it's probably
Speaker 2: some kind of distant cousin, right, it's almost like a
Speaker 2: cousin of a cousin of a cousin.
Speaker 1: There's a ninety eight percent chance that there's like a
Speaker 1: framed picture of someone in an NY uniform on a
Speaker 1: wall in her house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that she's never actually met before, but it's a cousin.
Speaker 1: So you heard it a little bit there. As they
Speaker 1: cut away from that promo, the music is super Crazy.
Speaker 1: He's now on his waind of the ring. Style says
Speaker 1: super Crazy has heat with the network because he snubbed
Speaker 1: his nose at them. Style said, like he should lay
Speaker 1: down to let you coronate Rhino as the new TV
Speaker 1: champion and not try to grab the brass ring. I
Speaker 1: think that's a little insider terminology there from one Joey Styles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Sarah says, are you familiar with the terminology time monitored tradition?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the words.
Speaker 1: They're supposed to just let Rhino win the belt?
Speaker 2: Why why why are they going to do this? Why
Speaker 2: do they feel the need to do this kind of shit?
Speaker 1: Waidos in the ring with Graziano, like talking.
Speaker 2: About talking about certain behind the scenes stuff is okay,
Speaker 2: but like when you start talking about.
Speaker 1: He's doing it as comedy though he's doing it obnoxiously, but.
Speaker 2: Still it's it's drawing attention to the fact that it's
Speaker 2: all bullshit and why am I watching? Mask was of
Speaker 2: that anyway?
Speaker 1: Watching this whole kind of the CW is curious and
Speaker 1: that they would always do that, yet they still somehow
Speaker 1: that was part of Paul's genius. Frankly, when it came
Speaker 1: time to shoot a really hot angle. They knew how
Speaker 1: to how to get you dialed in for real, you know,
Speaker 1: like you have a show where Cyrus said that on
Speaker 1: the same show where Dusty turns the clock back twenty years,
Speaker 1: you know, fans allow themselves to be transported along all
Speaker 1: the line the philosophical lines that Dusty talked about in
Speaker 1: that shoot interview clip we played in part one.
Speaker 2: I guess extremes it's sure, sure, I'm with you, but
Speaker 2: like the the the the ext I mean, it's no, no,
Speaker 2: no surprise put intended, but like the extremes of it all,
Speaker 2: like it's either there seems to be very little middle ground.
Speaker 2: It's either ludicrous so completely it's it's either completely fake
Speaker 2: and phony, or it's like, holy legit. Yeah true, that's
Speaker 2: hard for me to really get around. It's too black
Speaker 2: and white for me. On the same show, shades of
Speaker 2: Es of gray first, shades of gray. So not good
Speaker 2: guys and bad.
Speaker 1: Guys, right, that would insult the intelligence of our audience.
Speaker 2: Exactly, or insult my own intelligence of my audience.
Speaker 1: The tournament was an eight man Rhino beat Spike Dudley
Speaker 1: to advance. Sandman had beat to Jerry to advance. I
Speaker 1: look forward to playing a clip in a little while
Speaker 1: where sand Man says he never wrestled to Jerry. Little
Speaker 1: Guido beat Kid Cash to advance and Super Crazy beat
Speaker 1: c W Anderson to advance. This is all on ECW
Speaker 1: television in the month of March, So it's Rhino Sandman,
Speaker 1: and we know what happened earlier in the show. Rhino
Speaker 1: gets the buy and this is Guido versus Super Crazy,
Speaker 1: the battle Greeto beating Cash and Crazy beating Anderson to
Speaker 1: advance to this point, so he doesn't know when we
Speaker 1: wrought Ono the Sicilian shooter. What would ECW be without
Speaker 1: these the long leathered jackets like the fat guys would.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, did you say the Sicilian proshood? Is that
Speaker 2: what you're saying?
Speaker 1: Pretty much? Pretty much?
Speaker 2: Sicilian proshuoter Salami and uh.
Speaker 1: Elser said in The Observer that the original plan for
Speaker 1: this was a three way with the jury, but they
Speaker 1: decided to get to jury involved in the main event
Speaker 1: instead because Super Crazy into Jury was pretty magical back then.
Speaker 1: But they decided not to run it back we promised it.
Speaker 2: And not to fucking not to fucking even have them
Speaker 2: wrestle each other, just have them involved in the main event.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what a mess yep. But a homie
Speaker 1: Zach who always steps up when he feels he can
Speaker 1: be of assistance was the first things in reaching out
Speaker 1: to Sandman. All right, and uh he asked him something
Speaker 1: that proves germane I would say to this part of
Speaker 1: the podcast, but it's what we realized that, Uh, the
Speaker 1: abrupt end in the in the in the truncated nature
Speaker 1: of that first gammeia was going to be characteristic of
Speaker 1: of Samman requests going forward.
Speaker 2: No, Jack, what the fuck up?
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's right, it's the same man, hardcore dude.
Speaker 2: Uh you was that your boy, Zach?
Speaker 13: He said in the South to eat his cameo, you
Speaker 13: guys were two thousand living dangerously. To Jerry, I would
Speaker 13: have said, I never had a singles match against the
Speaker 13: jury of my life. But I didn't really like him
Speaker 13: much anyway, because he always he always he could talk English,
Speaker 13: but he would use it like if he didn't want
Speaker 13: to do something in a match or anything. He would
Speaker 13: uh to Jerry be like, oh no, don't understand and bullshit.
Speaker 13: Back in the day, we didn't have any phones. So
Speaker 13: I heard him on a payphone talking speaking.
Speaker 2: Speaking, terfect what's going on? But either way, Terry Funk,
Speaker 2: there's too many. Ah, he was the greatest thing in
Speaker 2: the world. He hated to hear, but he was the
Speaker 2: greatest in the world. No, Terry Funk.
Speaker 1: I think Zach tucked in a question about and Terry
Speaker 1: Funk memory and Sam Man's phone starts ringing. So he
Speaker 1: read that ship up broke.
Speaker 2: I'll tell I'll tell you. It's really funny how he's
Speaker 2: like the shortest cameo guy ever when it comes to wrestling.
Speaker 2: He's like, give me that fucking cake. What do you want?
Speaker 2: A half house? Sorry, yeah, I want to tell you
Speaker 2: a half ass fucking story.
Speaker 1: And Ricky Steamboats give me a twenty minute tour of
Speaker 1: his house. When I asked him who was the ninja
Speaker 1: in the vignettes to introduce.
Speaker 2: Hi, It's like, it's like you can ask Rickey Steamboat
Speaker 2: what was your what was your nickname in wrestling? And
Speaker 2: you go the whole fucking storyline. Take it out of
Speaker 2: the basement, Take it out of the basement? Can we not? Actually, Ricky?
Speaker 2: It makes me a little nervous, pal what's that amazing?
Speaker 1: There's such a such an interesting window over these wrestlers,
Speaker 1: these cameos, you know, like how they treat them, how
Speaker 1: they approach them, whether they fucking ignore them. You know,
Speaker 1: it's fascinating how long I.
Speaker 2: Went like and like Nash in his in his like
Speaker 2: twelve minute political serenade.
Speaker 1: Oh, he's the fucking kid. I don't care.
Speaker 2: He's the king and he is, he absolutely is. I
Speaker 2: will oh, I will gladly hand him money for stuff
Speaker 2: because it's always gold. It's always gold. Actually this actually
Speaker 2: it's kind of interesting. Actually have a question for him that,
Speaker 2: but we'll get to that another time, okay, because I'm
Speaker 2: very curious.
Speaker 1: Actually, now Super Crazy versus Little Guido time, Uh fine,
Speaker 1: Guido tacks Crazy from behind at the bell stall, says
Speaker 1: crazy like, I'll.
Speaker 2: Take a little Guido with cheese, please, I'll take a
Speaker 2: little Guido with cheese.
Speaker 1: Guido is a submission specialist trained by who boss Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: billiy Robinson's right, so he has u w phied shooting ability.
Speaker 2: He also is very very big fan of beings some
Speaker 2: tolls with the whip.
Speaker 1: Perversely progged by super Crazy drop down Wido goes over
Speaker 1: the top, rolls and drops an elbow to the stomach
Speaker 1: or the crotch. It's arguable, and it's a short drop
Speaker 1: kick for two, where's my pizza? Chant for Sally Gratziano
Speaker 1: and they would alway chant that for the FBI in general.
Speaker 1: Grozziano to the corner, charge backdrop to the apron, goes crazy,
Speaker 1: he based ball, slides back in and yanks Wuido.
Speaker 2: There should have been was there ever, like a a
Speaker 2: uh A faction with with in E c W. I
Speaker 2: would imagine this would have been a thing with people
Speaker 2: with just the middle initial of E.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, louis dangerously Sally Gratian. And you got Jim Barnett,
Speaker 2: isn't it Jim Barnett's is where it all comes from?
Speaker 2: Isn't that where it comes from? Yeah? James E.
Speaker 1: Cornett, James E. Barnett, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, jim Z.
Speaker 1: They called him jim Z his first okay ye, So yeah,
Speaker 1: it gets the enter to the floor, Guido gets thrown
Speaker 1: into the apron and then over the railing, and then
Speaker 1: he goes over the river as well.
Speaker 2: I still don't understand how Sally Gratziano is not dead.
Speaker 2: I know, I was totally I totally thought he died,
Speaker 2: but I was confusing with big Dick Dudley. He really
Speaker 2: I would have I would imagine he'd be He would
Speaker 2: have been dead in two thousand and one. Honest, they
Speaker 2: got looking at the size of.
Speaker 1: Him somewhere covering significant surface area.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just imagine he would get smothered in cholesterol.
Speaker 2: So they're by cholesterols.
Speaker 1: We're talking like one guy just twenty dollars door dash order,
Speaker 1: eighty five dollars door dash order.
Speaker 2: You know, and and and you know. The funny thing
Speaker 2: is is that you'd think he would be someone like
Speaker 2: kind of sitting inside his house waiting to be like
Speaker 2: fed basically, but he's out the door. He's at the door,
Speaker 2: like waiting the moment that fucker comes comes there. He's like,
Speaker 2: he wants give me my fucking food. Bro, like you
Speaker 2: imagine from Taco Bell, how set I will easily. Don't
Speaker 2: they have those boxes of ten yeah? Or yeah they
Speaker 2: have like giant Yeah. He gets like easily, really think
Speaker 2: easily easily. I mean I'd say that that might be
Speaker 2: an appetizer. And then he orders like Pizza Hut or.
Speaker 1: Something west b KFCs. They're both the same brands.
Speaker 2: Oh good point, well, pizza Hut too, I think yeah,
Speaker 2: so forty taking the over.
Speaker 1: Under that's on Sally's taco bell order.
Speaker 2: Uh, taking me over.
Speaker 1: That has all heads of wrestling implications taken there. You're
Speaker 1: damn right, I'm taking the over, damn right, fucking guy
Speaker 1: man like trips game over your damn right over.
Speaker 2: Oh God, just spare on my shut up. It's so
Speaker 2: like fucking moron, fucking.
Speaker 5: Me.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. You know, you know, when
Speaker 2: I when I first realized what that was, when you
Speaker 2: fucking taught me what over was, I have any fucking
Speaker 2: idea what he was talking about exactly. You know, like
Speaker 2: I sat there in ninety nine when he first said that,
Speaker 2: and it's like it took me. It took me two
Speaker 2: three years before I fucking realized, Oh it's a wrestling term.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: So clever you think it was. No one knew what
Speaker 1: the fucking talk.
Speaker 2: No one knew damn right them over. Yeah, I'm over it.
Speaker 1: Ye, Hey, you forgot one word there, A very important word.
Speaker 1: I don't know. You like his like conference with like
Speaker 1: you know, with the top button under, you know.
Speaker 2: Just like you know, there comes a point where you've
Speaker 2: got the bald guy with the beard, the beard, the
Speaker 2: fisherman's beard, and and it comes like a point where
Speaker 2: it's like something just it. It feels weird looking at him,
Speaker 2: like like I don't got the yeah for sure, and
Speaker 2: it just feels like like a giant mask, you know,
Speaker 2: like nothing about it is going out dressed as sand
Speaker 2: Sammy Patinkin for Halloween.
Speaker 1: Andy's not Sands, but.
Speaker 2: It's like all year round, he's got a fucking latex
Speaker 2: mask on his face. That's pretty funny.
Speaker 1: That's pretty like a misdoubt fire kind of mask, exactly.
Speaker 2: Exactly like he's if he's in a press conference where
Speaker 2: the ac is broken, all of a sudden, you seet
Speaker 2: like his eyeball drooping. Of course, I socket drooping down
Speaker 2: because his latex is melting under the.
Speaker 1: Heat, becoming problematic.
Speaker 2: Game over indeed, pass so yes brought Siano Sally Parmigano.
Speaker 2: Actually that's the wind, so actually it should be Sally
Speaker 2: Pepek parmesan What shouldn't. It's all this PVC piping doing
Speaker 2: here at Denny's. Oh just wait a minute.
Speaker 1: We're going to elevate it at a forty five degree
Speaker 1: angle and the kitchen is just gonna feed food items
Speaker 1: into the pipe and it's gonna go straight in a
Speaker 1: sal Parmegiano's face, and.
Speaker 2: Then you don't have another another pipe up his ass,
Speaker 2: so it goes right in and out, in and out
Speaker 2: right away.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a stable at New Japan Pro Wrestling
Speaker 1: called Just five Guys, and I was like, wow, they
Speaker 1: named it straight the after Sally Gratziano's diet.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you can take that either two ways too.
Speaker 2: By the way, you could either take it as the
Speaker 2: Burger place or you know, basically the size of his
Speaker 2: portions he eats for five guys.
Speaker 1: And you know, Guido coming into this in the in
Speaker 1: the TV title tournament, heated so many wins, racked up
Speaker 1: back to back. The guy was on an enormous roll
Speaker 1: like Sally's Lunch.
Speaker 2: In fact, he was on such a role that Sally
Speaker 2: thought Guido was lunch. You stay on this role, buddy,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna have to eat you manga.
Speaker 1: He gets the foot long cookie at subway.
Speaker 2: And he.
Speaker 1: And he puts the tip of the cookie on his
Speaker 1: tonsil and he takes his index finger on the other
Speaker 1: end of the cookie and he just pushes it down
Speaker 1: his tow.
Speaker 2: No cheering. It's going away. In the tunnel.
Speaker 1: It's like a woman in private parts.
Speaker 2: Throat.
Speaker 1: But he does it with a warm chocolate chip.
Speaker 2: And when it gets down, when it gets down on
Speaker 2: the end of it, it kind of, you know, it
Speaker 2: loses it's its momentum, and so it kind of squishes.
Speaker 2: And just.
Speaker 1: Hello, subway, Main Street. I get a question, Yes, can
Speaker 1: I rent out the subway for a private event? How
Speaker 1: many people are coming one?
Speaker 2: Just but for twenty?
Speaker 1: Well how many people you need working it?
Speaker 2: None?
Speaker 1: Just leave all the food out there.
Speaker 2: Just leave it out there. I'll clean up. Believe me,
Speaker 2: you have nothing left when I'm done. He can.
Speaker 1: It's it's his like quarterly treat, you know. When the
Speaker 1: check comes in. He rents out a subway and he draws.
Speaker 1: He dressed the blinds. He looks like it's like eight
Speaker 1: thirty at night, and like he looks out the glass
Speaker 1: door because they close for the day. He looks left
Speaker 1: to right in the parking lot and he just draws
Speaker 1: the blinds. And what goes on between eight thirty at
Speaker 1: midnight you wouldn't believe.
Speaker 2: And what's amazing is that when the when the employees
Speaker 2: come back the next morning, it is spots, spotless.
Speaker 1: No inventoryless, you know they foes and get new stuff in.
Speaker 1: But but you could fucking you could lick the floor.
Speaker 1: For some reason, it is just spot. I mean, well,
Speaker 1: he likes the ship that's on the floor, like there's
Speaker 1: there's flavor. There's there's flavoring on the floor. You know,
Speaker 1: it's good seasoning. I mean cold cuts, just like fisting them,
Speaker 1: just like a full and.
Speaker 2: Sometimes he lifts them up like buy its, you know, dangling.
Speaker 2: What's the next? Let me see what They don't make
Speaker 2: a meatball some alright, but I gotta have something war
Speaker 2: I'm heating it up.
Speaker 1: It's like eating slice of pizza while you're waiting for
Speaker 1: your dinner in the cafeteria college. You always eat a
Speaker 1: slice of pizza.
Speaker 2: Well, it's amazing I didn't. It's amazing I didn't end
Speaker 2: up his fucking size, honest to God, melted Sunday right
Speaker 2: every day. Ah Jesus Christ, I'm surprised I could. I'm
Speaker 2: surprised that my dorm bed didn't fucking collapse. I don't
Speaker 2: know after eating all that ship.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was so bad. They had no
Speaker 1: there was no regard. I mean they're vegan for some
Speaker 1: of those kids, but there was no regard for calories
Speaker 1: or anything.
Speaker 2: It was just like, well, that's it, like the moment
Speaker 2: because the moment you get in there once you because
Speaker 2: it wasn't like you paid for what you got, it
Speaker 2: was you pay to end. It's an entrance fee. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just fucking check off that thing. And then you go
Speaker 2: in there and it's like you get to eat whatever
Speaker 2: you want as long as you want.
Speaker 1: God, can you can you feel the inside of that
Speaker 1: dining room now with like that formal interior, like you know,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah I can, I can right now. I think about
Speaker 2: I I I think about there. I remember one of
Speaker 2: those times you and you and I were having dinner
Speaker 2: down there, and it was really when my first experience
Speaker 2: realizing what it was like to be angry. Yeah, I remember, remember.
Speaker 2: I just remember going into UH. I was just so
Speaker 2: pissed off, like everything was fucking It was like so
Speaker 2: angry every when the people smiling, having a good time,
Speaker 2: enjoying their life. Fuck off. You don't even know what
Speaker 2: good things are, piece of ship. It's all fake. But
Speaker 2: then then we ate and.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh I feel better, like chicken patties.
Speaker 2: Chicken patties, maybe three slices of pizza and the burger
Speaker 2: and egg salad sandwich and a.
Speaker 1: Salad salad, well salad and makes it cross that off.
Speaker 1: You know that's right, cancel everything out. We have a salad.
Speaker 1: It's dessert times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really your only calories after you have the salad.
Speaker 2: So they're over the rail.
Speaker 1: Crazy pushes back here, damn right they are holy shit
Speaker 1: pushes back to guard rail because in ECW, when you
Speaker 1: dove over the rail, you just move the railing closer
Speaker 1: to the ring. So it was the same thing as
Speaker 1: a regular jump, except it was technically in the crowd
Speaker 1: because you move the rail up to the aps. So stupid,
Speaker 1: but they still talk a lot. He'll never clear it, styles,
Speaker 1: he'll never clear it, and he does with an side.
Speaker 2: As you see it's like as you get like a
Speaker 2: close up of the guys pushing the railing closer to
Speaker 2: the ring. He'll never clear. You'll never get over. He'll
Speaker 2: get over.
Speaker 1: At this point, he's going to do the shortest to
Speaker 1: side moonsalt, the least distance ever covered in the history business.
Speaker 2: Exactly, but there it is.
Speaker 1: He nails it nice pop Crazy with the ECW s
Speaker 1: at East to hear dst w T shirt when he wrestled.
Speaker 1: Sarah says, if he bucks the network anymore, the only
Speaker 1: job he'll have is when we do a remake of
Speaker 1: Chico and the Man Okay Style says, anything's possible. After
Speaker 1: Rock and Bowl, of course, that's a knock at TNN
Speaker 1: original programming that we referenced in part one, Guido comes
Speaker 1: in with a sling shot leg drop across.
Speaker 2: The Isn't that that's cheap day, isn't it? What rock
Speaker 2: and Bowl? And then rocks got a bowl? Okay of
Speaker 2: cereal rock? Yeah, kind of, I know.
Speaker 1: Super Crazy whipped to the corner, hip up in the corner,
Speaker 1: it was underneath. He climbs up, but Super Crazy cuts
Speaker 1: him off with the springboard flip power bomb. So he
Speaker 1: pulls Guido off the ropes with emphasis, and that's two
Speaker 1: to the floor they go, and Super Crazy springs off
Speaker 1: the rail and jumps into a Fuji are arm bar
Speaker 1: on the floor.
Speaker 2: Is Oh, yes he does, Yes, he does. I mean
Speaker 2: that's awesome, that was good. I'm a fan of that.
Speaker 1: He puts the arm bar on him right there on
Speaker 1: the outside, and then he drops him on the rail.
Speaker 1: Sally does drops Super Crazy on the rail back in
Speaker 1: Guido gets two cyrus, pleads with then to hook the
Speaker 1: arm bar again, but he doesn't even he mixes it
Speaker 1: up some more.
Speaker 2: I mean he talks about Guido's toughness too in regards
Speaker 2: to Billy Robinson.
Speaker 8: Guido is very very top.
Speaker 2: You don't go from training with Billy Robinson.
Speaker 1: And off be absolutely right yep, reverse whip backdrops. Super
Speaker 1: Crazy though, lends on the apron and comes outside him
Speaker 1: with a springboard, but he's cut down with a forum
Speaker 1: of Guido in midflight. That gets to and then Guido
Speaker 1: charges with a steel chair and misses Crazy gets his
Speaker 1: hands on the chair and crowns Guido with it and
Speaker 1: then does a top rope chair shot. So he goes
Speaker 1: up top with a chair and rains it down in
Speaker 1: Guido's head. That gets to Guido does what it takes
Speaker 1: to matter, does what it takes to be considered worthy
Speaker 1: and runs the race. Here and Danbury Corner, Mount Hunodos Tress.
Speaker 1: These count in Spanish when Super Crazy we do those punches.
Speaker 2: That's cool.
Speaker 1: He does side step with the charging Sally and lays
Speaker 1: into him as well. Frank Pepe's Graziano here and Darian Connecticut.
Speaker 2: Oh you're damn right. Oh absolutely, come on, there's no
Speaker 2: chance he has Pepe is no fucking no, no, come on.
Speaker 2: Absolutely he got like he had he had.
Speaker 1: Big white box and tomato.
Speaker 2: But you know about it. It's so good. It's so good.
Speaker 2: I love I love Pepe. Been in a while. There's
Speaker 2: a have you Have you been to the one? I mean,
Speaker 2: the real one in in uh in uh new Haven.
Speaker 2: It's really good, but I mean, I I enjoy any
Speaker 2: I've gathered. Yeah, people, it tastes much different. It was
Speaker 2: so so good.
Speaker 1: Now I need one the Politana style, big fucking frosty beverage.
Speaker 1: Bring that that.
Speaker 2: I love? How simple the menu like, there's nothing, there's
Speaker 2: nothing there. It's like, you know, you have like a
Speaker 2: couple of pie options. There's not there's no other food
Speaker 2: really this salad and stuff, Yep, there's not. It's so great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always know what's up. How much better things
Speaker 1: were be if every restaurant said we're gonna be known
Speaker 1: for one thing, it'd be so much better, so.
Speaker 2: Much easier, Like fucking cheesecake factory, many rights wherever.
Speaker 1: It's like mm hm, so crazy gets on sale shoulders
Speaker 1: and leaps into one of Guido's boots that gets to
Speaker 1: Sally holds him in other hooks is Guido whips him
Speaker 1: with a belt now, so they're double teaming crazy cover
Speaker 1: one two and Joey says Guido wanted an Italian deathmatch,
Speaker 1: which means anything goes. So this is notice qualification. I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: what the fuck are you talking about? Every single match
Speaker 1: in ECW is notice qualification?
Speaker 2: Was that the case?
Speaker 1: I didn't know if that case no one ever got
Speaker 1: dqued in the history of VCW. I mean maybe it
Speaker 1: happened before and someone's gonna well, actually, but you get
Speaker 1: my point. The prevailing wind was such a you know,
Speaker 1: that was something I th Doring points it out in
Speaker 1: a shoot interview. It's like, that's something's always fucked upbout
Speaker 1: ECW psychology is like, no one ever got dqued for
Speaker 1: doing the most inhumane things to each other. But when
Speaker 1: you put a submission on, you grab the rope that
Speaker 1: referee broke that fucking hold up. Every time, it's like,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do to qualify me? There's qualification
Speaker 1: whip drop and crazy with the big leaping DDT that
Speaker 1: gets too crazy with the belt. Now he gets kicked
Speaker 1: whip is reversed and he starts Italian whipping Guido, famous
Speaker 1: for off the ropes by Guido gets too and Cyrus says,
Speaker 1: that will make you famous. So that's a shout out
Speaker 1: to Billy Gun's finisher. There, okay, Cyrus table loaded in
Speaker 1: the ring. Guido, because he's a shooter, puts crazy on
Speaker 1: a table. He climbs up mount Salsuvius as they called
Speaker 1: it when it's awful. They climbed up on Sally Gratziano
Speaker 1: and dropped an elbow and Gweed's kind of he misses
Speaker 1: questions the table. So then Sally tries to power mom,
Speaker 1: I'm super crazy, but crazy hurrican Ron is Sally. That's
Speaker 1: one thing Sally could could flip over for hurrican Ron
Speaker 1: at his size. That was a sight to see. And
Speaker 1: then he covers Guido as crazy and all that table wreckage.
Speaker 1: But that only gets too Cyrus says, what kind of to.
Speaker 2: Tall was he? How tall was Graziano?
Speaker 1: What's that again?
Speaker 2: How tall was Gratziana.
Speaker 6: Is?
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't tell if he's really tall or
Speaker 2: if these guys are just so short.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're exceptionally short, and these guys are junior heavyweight
Speaker 1: to buy most most industry definitions at the time, because
Speaker 1: he does look like a mountain compared to that right totally.
Speaker 1: And on that cell of the rana, Syrus says, what
Speaker 1: kind of torque do you need to have in your
Speaker 1: hips if you're super Crazy to get a six hundred
Speaker 1: pound man over in a hurricane rana?
Speaker 2: Well, I also wonder how much Porky had in his
Speaker 2: bill to.
Speaker 1: The corner Crazy with a kip up. Guido catches him
Speaker 1: and drives him down face first in ato the canvas
Speaker 1: for two, and then he does the moritado, which is
Speaker 1: the un prettier now it's blocked Crazy, It's a low
Speaker 1: blow and power bombs Guido onto the table wreckage, then
Speaker 1: does a springboard moon salt for the one, the two,
Speaker 1: and the three. Seven minutes forty seven seconds, Super Crazy
Speaker 1: defeats little Guido to advance to the TV tournament finals.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of action for eight minutes of time, and.
Speaker 1: I actually have to take it back. The one, two
Speaker 1: three was a totally false finish because the ref counted three,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't finished right right, and styles like starts
Speaker 1: talking about how he starts talking about Crazy is going
Speaker 1: to the finals even as they continue wrestling as if
Speaker 1: that was the finish. He just like looks through the
Speaker 1: fact that they fucked it up. Crazy picks him up
Speaker 1: then hits him with the brainbuster, because you got to
Speaker 1: add that, and that's kind of a dustiest point. You know,
Speaker 1: you went through the table, it's over. Like you don't
Speaker 1: pick a guy up from the wreckage of the table
Speaker 1: and hit him with another move. That's kind of I agree,
Speaker 1: I agree with that, but it's the brainbuster that gets
Speaker 1: the three Crazy advances. And they asked Rhino in a
Speaker 1: shoot interview with our video if he knew they were
Speaker 1: gonna put TV title on him before the tournament, and
Speaker 1: he figured Paul was gonna put a little swerve and
Speaker 1: told him the day of the show in dan Berry
Speaker 1: how it was actually all gonna play out with Crazy
Speaker 1: getting it. And he actually felt that he was kind
Speaker 1: of pissed off that they they decided the direction at
Speaker 1: the last minute because he felt given more time, him
Speaker 1: and Super Crazy could have had a better match than
Speaker 1: they do in the finals. He said, we really couldn't
Speaker 1: get together, and I was like, fuck main event in
Speaker 1: the pay per view. I just felt like the match
Speaker 1: was solid, but it wasn't you know, I didn't tell
Speaker 1: a great story. He said they had the stuff with
Speaker 1: Rob and everything at the end that was kind of
Speaker 1: you know, shoehorned in there. But he thinks they could
Speaker 1: have given the fans a better match. He was down
Speaker 1: on himself for a long time about that. Yeah, matching
Speaker 1: up with him and crazy really yeah, like still like
Speaker 1: even hates the match. Yeah, I don't know he hates it.
Speaker 1: I thought it was I think it was probably it
Speaker 1: probably was not used to having so little lead time
Speaker 1: to put a match.
Speaker 2: I like it. I didn't like it per se, but
Speaker 2: I know it wasn't that bad crazy music.
Speaker 1: He's going to advance Joey and Cyrus final match of
Speaker 1: the tournament.
Speaker 2: Like a Steve Austin type. Is he like a Steve
Speaker 2: Austin type Rhino?
Speaker 1: I don't know, no, not really. Yeah, that's like the
Speaker 1: only time the match that I've seen that I heard
Speaker 1: in the interview. But this, you know, Steve will shit
Speaker 1: on matches that his career is most celebrated.
Speaker 2: For, right exactly.
Speaker 1: That's what I was wondering, if like that this isn't
Speaker 1: a match that fin I was most celebrated for. Though,
Speaker 1: I have to say, I'm not sure what's on that
Speaker 1: short list, but not that he's bad. He's a good
Speaker 1: worker on stuff. But I just I don't know what
Speaker 1: is the best rhino match.
Speaker 2: I have no idea.
Speaker 1: You know, that's kind of there are some wrestlers like that,
Speaker 1: they're really solid. But yeah, you struggled to him a
Speaker 1: great match they've ever had, you know, Like to me,
Speaker 1: I think of his greatest match is one he's not
Speaker 1: even really in, which.
Speaker 2: Is the uh running.
Speaker 1: So Joey tells us that the CCWVD game is the
Speaker 1: first one rated M for mature, and then he says,
Speaker 1: look how real this video game is. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Oh it's awful.
Speaker 1: They show gameplay styles versus Cyrus. You could play as
Speaker 1: Joey styles.
Speaker 2: And the I guess, I guess what's real is that
Speaker 2: there's blood in it, which is like every wrestling game
Speaker 2: has blood.
Speaker 1: And they had the fans chinning E c W constantly
Speaker 1: in the game, and they show Style's elbow them off
Speaker 1: the top.
Speaker 2: Rod did you say, did you say you played it
Speaker 2: or you had played it?
Speaker 1: I didn't have it. Yeah, it was exactly what I
Speaker 1: was wat was like as soon as I started playing
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, this is the exact same
Speaker 1: thing that the games.
Speaker 2: Used to be. So I hated it, hated it. I
Speaker 2: hated those. Yeah, it was so like derivative, you know.
Speaker 2: It's like it was so hard to like. It was
Speaker 2: like you really get bored with it pretty quickly. There
Speaker 2: was no you know, there was nothing you could really
Speaker 2: do with it. You couldn't have really good matches and
Speaker 2: you couldn't you couldn't like create storylines or anything like
Speaker 2: that exactly actually build programs like fucking no. Mercy was
Speaker 2: so great at that.
Speaker 1: Oh right, that was the difference with WF copied the
Speaker 1: ww game engine. It was like, yes, that's a game
Speaker 1: engine worth copying.
Speaker 2: That's a step up. This is a game engine that
Speaker 2: nobody asked for, right, yeah, exactly, nobody asked for it.
Speaker 2: Nobody a sequel, yep.
Speaker 1: So then we flash forward and bals mahone's in the ring.
Speaker 1: If you're watching Peacock, they skip us some stuff and uh,
Speaker 1: because he had the proprietary music as well, Kintaro Kennemora
Speaker 1: from Japan had come in with flames on his vest.
Speaker 1: This is over and an instant. I don't know what
Speaker 1: this is about. They say balls turning from Japan, he
Speaker 1: has living dangerously in his chair. He would often write
Speaker 1: the pay per view logo or draw the paper view
Speaker 1: logo on his chairs. Cyrus sy Joey is wasting the
Speaker 1: company's money to put himself over by constantly going into
Speaker 1: these monologues and also by showing the footage of himself
Speaker 1: beating up Cyrus on the video game. He considers that
Speaker 1: misuse of company.
Speaker 2: Finds maybe not wrong.
Speaker 1: So Kennamora sits across balsim Mahone's neck in the middle
Speaker 1: rope and it's a dropkick from the apron an outside.
Speaker 1: In Splash for two, Kenamora gets up hi sent on
Speaker 1: backsplashed by the Japanese competitor that gets too.
Speaker 2: Don't even fucking know what the hell's going on.
Speaker 1: He Namo charges him a spinebuster. They called it the
Speaker 1: ball breaker. I guess corprop frog splashed by balls gets too.
Speaker 1: He climbs again, gets cut off, superplexed by Kanamora hard
Speaker 1: chair to the head and Balls flips him off, dodges
Speaker 1: a chair shot whip reversed, Balls pulls him into a
Speaker 1: short arm clothes line, and then kennamar takes a crazy
Speaker 1: inside out bump Balls grabs him in the Nutcracker sweet
Speaker 1: on a chair one two three, It's over. I swear
Speaker 1: to god, that's it. It's uh oh was the point
Speaker 1: of that minute fifty eight? I have no idea why
Speaker 1: they bothered, no clue. There's probably some story, maybe Paul's
Speaker 1: flipping the bird to Japan. You know, it didn't take
Speaker 1: much for Paul to feel like you weren't properly reciprocating.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I was Cannamora. I fool all
Speaker 1: the way over there, and this was the finish I got,
Speaker 1: like what the fuck?
Speaker 2: So yeah, like this just seems like a complete waste
Speaker 2: of time.
Speaker 1: It's just a lightning fast match to get the new
Speaker 1: Jack angle going, and this is that fateful part of
Speaker 1: the show. So the ball these hit the ring, slide
Speaker 1: in total Angel Vic Rimes and they start attacking the money.
Speaker 1: They pancake him, Balls nearly lands on his head. They
Speaker 1: almost totally overrotate him and drop him on his fucking dome.
Speaker 1: Divid know an Angel, the Kingpin, the king of the streets.
Speaker 1: They placed him on a table on the outside. Grimes
Speaker 1: climbs to the top rope and does a front flip
Speaker 1: off the top end of the aisleway through a table.
Speaker 2: So I guess this is a Danbury, Connecticut peace street fight.
Speaker 1: Yes, the main streets. And so now Balls is taken
Speaker 1: out by the Baldi's And yeah, like I said, if
Speaker 1: you're watching it on Peacock, all of a sudden, the
Speaker 1: worst fucking generic movie music you've ever heard takes over.
Speaker 1: But this is what it sounded like at the time
Speaker 1: in real time.
Speaker 12: The four hundred pounder he called himself to see dropped
Speaker 12: another the authors for rimes.
Speaker 1: It is Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: That's what expecting again everything now.
Speaker 6: He won't Jim stand new job.
Speaker 1: Jake's here when he came to a.
Speaker 2: Playing the boy start to do where your moment w
Speaker 2: get the prison coming back.
Speaker 5: It's like as a federal prison, not to flu like
Speaker 5: you take a Yeah he's gonna fail that.
Speaker 12: Can't we go do?
Speaker 6: Taking the.
Speaker 2: Can you check you're taking the bookies?
Speaker 1: Not playing his out.
Speaker 2: T mint after the flocks.
Speaker 4: Do not.
Speaker 6: Like he doesn't hamercause you don't like a railroads.
Speaker 2: And it chock bringing up who woos bringing right up?
Speaker 1: Hook here? Oh my, he puts a PlayStation Ontovito's balls
Speaker 1: and then smacks it with a crutch or a chair.
Speaker 2: Crazy.
Speaker 1: So he comes out with the trash can full of
Speaker 1: all kinds of ship guitars, crutches and the Federal prison stuff.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that that's kind of the song that would
Speaker 1: play on Loop the whole time.
Speaker 2: I just don't yeah, okay, I mean it's cool. It's
Speaker 2: a cool thing from to come out to that, and
Speaker 2: the pop was amazing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. On the show, people just sat there waiting, you know,
Speaker 1: for that to hit, Like when Corino and that clip
Speaker 1: he was sucking by. It's either Danny Taz is going
Speaker 1: to come out to kill you, or it's that beginning
Speaker 1: sound of a bullet racing and Jack's coming. So he
Speaker 1: strums a guitar and crowns Angel with it. Grimes of
Speaker 1: Blindside Nwjack though he has a pizza cutter in his hand,
Speaker 1: but that's.
Speaker 2: Nothing unusual for VIC rimes. It's very true, probably from
Speaker 2: pep Base as well.
Speaker 1: This is indeed Dan Break Connecticut street fight. We're told
Speaker 1: new jackets crimes with a snowshovel, crimes with a low
Speaker 1: blow and throws Jack out of the ring and clothes
Speaker 1: lines them off the apron into the crowd. They go
Speaker 1: here we go, Beers thrown at their heads, these fans
Speaker 1: trying to tap up new jack as they wade.
Speaker 2: Through the people. You know what I hate about. One
Speaker 2: of the real things I hate about fights into the crowd.
Speaker 2: Mostly neither guys are concerned with whether they get hit
Speaker 2: or not by the fans and like no by each other.
Speaker 1: I know, they just like trade.
Speaker 2: They just kind of like right, they just kind of
Speaker 2: like walk and allow themselves to be hit, where I
Speaker 2: would be more interested in some guy running away, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, and trying to get away from holl for
Speaker 2: some reason. Moving Like yeah, they're always moving in there,
Speaker 2: and they're walking at like kind of a slow pace.
Speaker 2: But it's like it just looks so phony iop it.
Speaker 1: Crowd brawling.
Speaker 2: I hate it.
Speaker 1: I think it's always so shitty when it's done.
Speaker 2: I mean, there have been times it's been done well,
Speaker 2: although I can't think of anyone off the top of
Speaker 2: my head, but I know I've enjoyed some of them,
Speaker 2: Like I think I enjoyed rock in Austin.
Speaker 1: Yeh at, Yeah, Austin had that brawling team and that's
Speaker 1: Downtown with science in his title, like he.
Speaker 2: He he was good with it. But it's really it's
Speaker 2: it's it's yeah, like when you start doing the it
Speaker 2: just looks lazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it does, and it is by the way, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get a rise out of the crowd. You have
Speaker 1: to do anything for like twenty minutes, and it's done
Speaker 1: too often, like it's too formula a part of shows
Speaker 1: now and then you've got security parting the red seas
Speaker 1: so you don't even get that crazy visual of the
Speaker 1: fans all over the wrestlers. It's like really really contrived. Anyway,
Speaker 1: these guys are walking to the gallows. Basically, it's I'm
Speaker 1: watching this thing. I'm like, these guys have no idea
Speaker 1: that they're slow walking to their death. Basically, yes, so
Speaker 1: Grimes is attacking him with the with a stanchion, taking
Speaker 1: forever out and the people. He arranges the tables just
Speaker 1: so at the bottom of the scaffolding. Grimes didn't didn't
Speaker 1: this guy marry Elon Musk Anyway, New Jack ran the
Speaker 1: razor for some reason. He's got a bleed in the
Speaker 1: middle of all this, even though right there's all this
Speaker 1: other ships.
Speaker 2: That happen, Like why why do you get a bleed too?
Speaker 2: Like what happens He's laid out on the table.
Speaker 1: Grimes puts a table on top of the other with
Speaker 1: new Jack sandwiched in between, and new Jack starts to
Speaker 1: stir as Grime starts to climb the scaffolding and he
Speaker 1: starts climbing up the other side, and instead of climbing
Speaker 1: down when he realizes Jack is.
Speaker 2: Coming up, he keeps going up. Yep, And guess what,
Speaker 2: you know, you know what, here's what Cyrus says about that.
Speaker 1: Oh he just got even a glimpse of that annoying
Speaker 1: music right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the ratings, all right, but raperview Cyrus, that's right,
Speaker 2: I know, Like I was like, I don't I don't
Speaker 2: know if I can be proven per se.
Speaker 1: But okay, just as they get to the top, they
Speaker 1: take a faraway shot and it looks horrifying, as you
Speaker 1: can tell, they're trying to position themselves way higher than
Speaker 1: they have any right to be. Grant Grimes is standing uneasy,
Speaker 1: nothing under their feet if they take the wrong step, nothing,
Speaker 1: and it's just.
Speaker 2: Like it's just so it's unnecessarily risky, and it just
Speaker 2: looks awful. It's like it's like just basically because there's
Speaker 2: no there's no pinache to it.
Speaker 1: It's like walking into the electric chair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's like it's like in city, It's
Speaker 2: like you're on a diving board and you just walk
Speaker 2: off the board.
Speaker 1: Well, there may not be to it, but as far
Speaker 1: as Vick Rhymes goes, there is ghanash true. I wonder
Speaker 1: what he celebrated with. Well, probably one of those fucking
Speaker 1: like you know, colossal Sundays at friendlies afterwards, Oh for sure.
Speaker 1: So Grime sets himself up. New Jack has climbed up
Speaker 1: to him.
Speaker 2: And I fucking love those goddamn sundays and probably yeah,
Speaker 2: you and me and friends just took me back. That
Speaker 2: just took me back.
Speaker 1: So Grimes is thinking power bomb up there, But no,
Speaker 1: it's blocking. These guys can barely move. They're pretending like
Speaker 1: they're trying to do moves to each other, but they
Speaker 1: can't move.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't do anything. It's too yep.
Speaker 1: So there's a nuts shot. You can tell they're talking.
Speaker 1: They're having a full dialogue up there as new Jack
Speaker 1: is you know, talked about. They're discussing how to do
Speaker 1: this thing and whether they should they stand there and
Speaker 1: new Jack takes a step backwards, a perilous step backwards
Speaker 1: so that he's on the other side of the scaffold
Speaker 1: from on another beam of the scaffold from Grimes. Grimes
Speaker 1: turns like no, just turn around.
Speaker 2: And then.
Speaker 1: Jack looks behind him, like you said, looks down at
Speaker 1: the tables, and it.
Speaker 2: Just goes dooks. He doesn't jump, he just falls yep,
Speaker 2: like nothing happened. There's no reason for him to have fallen, no.
Speaker 1: Reason at all. And he's holding the Crimes shirt as
Speaker 1: he's falling, and it pulls a little bit. But as
Speaker 1: we said, Grimes, instead of rocking forward with the momentum,
Speaker 1: goes pulls back for a second and then does a
Speaker 1: front flip, and that differential is enough to cause Grimes
Speaker 1: to land on top of Jack instead of next to him.
Speaker 1: Oh and it's just you just can't believe they did it,
Speaker 1: Like you just can't believe that they went all the
Speaker 1: way up there and then just jumped and landed on
Speaker 1: the concrete, Like, what the fuck is going on here?
Speaker 1: I know, what was your plan? You know, what was
Speaker 1: your plan? How do you jump from that high and
Speaker 1: land on the concrete and not die? I'm serious, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that is the truth. No, Like you look at
Speaker 1: it like a second story window or something, or a
Speaker 1: third story window in a building. You're like, I would
Speaker 1: die if I jump down here, and these guy's fucking
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's that high, but.
Speaker 2: Yep, oh my god, well fifteen feet fifteen feet high.
Speaker 1: I mean, Grimes is front flipping just into the air.
Speaker 1: He's no idea where he's gonna land, no clue.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, he could he could have. He could have
Speaker 2: fucking landed on his ass and like completely shattered his tailbomb.
Speaker 2: No fucking idea how they were going to land and
Speaker 2: do that chance c W rabidly, of course they do.
Speaker 2: Did they have what they want to see? New Jack?
Speaker 2: Of course? Out of his nose? Listen, listen, all right,
Speaker 2: every single person in this audience kind of want to
Speaker 2: see someone die when they come to NCW show. Okay,
Speaker 2: like you don't want to see someone die, but what
Speaker 2: a story would be. But it'd be pretty cool if
Speaker 2: it happened.
Speaker 1: And the possibility of it happening is you know, a
Speaker 1: bigger part of the reason you bought that ticket than
Speaker 1: you would admit.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep.
Speaker 1: And this is the closest I think they ever got
Speaker 1: to it, And the tone changes immediately from the announcers,
Speaker 1: Cyrus gets a little serious. I'm a little bit concerned here, Joey,
Speaker 1: he says. They come over to the ground, and security
Speaker 1: does and get Grimes to his feet, but nothing from
Speaker 1: new Jack and and styles know that this is right
Speaker 1: away on the replay. Well he actually even before the
Speaker 1: replay was able to appreciate that Grimes had landed on
Speaker 1: Newjack when you first watch it, not knowing, I think
Speaker 1: you don't necessarily know he lands on his head.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I no, you don't.
Speaker 1: He just kind of lands, you know, he lands awkwardly
Speaker 1: on top of him, but you don't really appreciate the
Speaker 1: head part of it. And we cut the hands high
Speaker 1: and fist pumping all around the all around the corpses
Speaker 1: or new Jack's corpse in particular, and I thought.
Speaker 2: This was like this, dude, they're just again the sadistic,
Speaker 2: the blood the bloods. Yeah, like I just.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if I ever really hopelessly
Speaker 1: addicted to holy shit moments, right, and it really it
Speaker 1: kind of hurts my soul a little bit, believe it
Speaker 1: or not.
Speaker 4: E C.
Speaker 2: Dub and it's listen not a fan. E C. Dub, No, thanks,
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it so much. Now this is a big thing.
Speaker 1: It's missing because of the dubbed over music on Peacock.
Speaker 1: This is like perverse ECW poetry here. Yeah, as new
Speaker 1: Jack is laying there and he having suffered this, this
Speaker 1: horrific uh splatter against Vic Grimes, they hit the point someone,
Speaker 1: oh where this wrings out over the building as he
Speaker 1: lies there on the brink of death.
Speaker 2: You're just moving. He come from above, forty.
Speaker 1: Beat up and it comes.
Speaker 5: I'm a.
Speaker 1: Flaming on top of.
Speaker 2: D Oh my god, I want to.
Speaker 1: I don't wanna you heard I don't want to die.
Speaker 2: Die.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as he's dying, they're dying. I thought that was
Speaker 1: crazy when I first saw that. That is pretty fucking
Speaker 1: crazy rhymes being let out by security, you know, with
Speaker 1: his arms around their shoulders, barely able to stand. But
Speaker 1: it doesn't stop Vic Rimes from pumping his fist like
Speaker 1: trump after he got shot. That was a big part
Speaker 1: of the heat. We cut away to Joey and Cyrus
Speaker 1: on pay per view. They plugged the dates again in
Speaker 1: the merch catalog and all that they say do Jack
Speaker 1: has basically been crushed. Joey conflates Laurie's kfebe hospitalization with
Speaker 1: New Jack's forthcoming hospitalization.
Speaker 2: Just fucking looking at Don Callus makes me angry. Stupid
Speaker 2: face like this fucking and it's like his beak of
Speaker 2: a note.
Speaker 1: They sing the word tremendous. Ah, it's tremendous.
Speaker 2: God, he's such a fucking asshole.
Speaker 1: He touches the mic and aw they boo for like
Speaker 1: ten minutes. They don't let him talk. I let him
Speaker 1: say a single word, and he's just like he's so,
Speaker 1: he's so, he's such a plump, like he's not fat,
Speaker 1: you know, he's like he's.
Speaker 2: No, he's like he's he's like he's got like that
Speaker 2: kind of he looks like a like a bird, like
Speaker 2: a frumpy bird man Like, like he looks like one
Speaker 2: of those birds that has kind of a you know,
Speaker 2: he's like a pigeon. Really, that's what he is. He's
Speaker 2: a he's a he's a pigeon. He's a fucking like
Speaker 2: you look at him and you're just disturbed, you know,
Speaker 2: like he's weird because he's got like long torso but
Speaker 2: short legs and a long dome fucking long head. Like
Speaker 2: just remember them. TV showed the head that's him totally.
Speaker 1: He's got like Marge Simpson's.
Speaker 2: Right, it's just it's just it's skin and bone.
Speaker 1: I don't know what your problem about. He's easy on
Speaker 1: the eye as far as I'm concerned. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: he's the guiding hand, the invisible hand, he tells himself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, invisible hand up. Miasm. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I think this is the closest we've ever gotten
Speaker 1: to a moment, akin to when Bill Mercer equates the
Speaker 1: death in real life of Gino Hernandez with another tragedy,
Speaker 1: the blindness of Chris Adams, which is a total work.
Speaker 1: When Joey Styles, in the same so somber tone of
Speaker 1: voice talks about Lori Fullington's hospitalization after the work dangle
Speaker 1: and now New Jack's medical emergency as well, puts him
Speaker 1: on the same keel there for a moment, the same
Speaker 1: you're talking about matches to come, and Styles points out
Speaker 1: Rob van Dam was twenty three months television champion before
Speaker 1: he was stripped by Cyrus and the network, and Cyrus said,
Speaker 1: RVD broke his leg. I want what's good for the people,
Speaker 1: and the ECW TV title had to be defended on
Speaker 1: television and it wasn't being so he's the director, he says. Director,
Speaker 1: he says among his titles are the director of Fan
Speaker 1: Improvement for the network. That is funny.
Speaker 2: That's all right, I'll take that improvement. Are you improving fans?
Speaker 1: Well, TNT thinks it has to improve the fans instead
Speaker 1: of the show. I can imagine. Hey, I agree, that
Speaker 1: was a big bishof thing. Remember we're going to improve
Speaker 1: the fans by hiring models to sit there and hiring
Speaker 1: people that look like their hip to sit in the
Speaker 1: front row at these shows.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, when you start, when you start hiring people
Speaker 2: to watch your show, there's a you're starting to lose something,
Speaker 2: something's missing.
Speaker 1: They cut out just incredibles entrance on Peacock, he came
Speaker 1: out to prongs.
Speaker 2: I knew they cut out something. I knew they cut
Speaker 2: out something. It was very a very abrupt right cut
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Storm is suddenly in the ring with the mic,
Speaker 1: but Credible came out to prongs, snap your finger, snap
Speaker 1: your neck, which is which is a pretty heavy fucking
Speaker 1: metal song. Back then, so Storm with the mic, He says,
Speaker 1: where ready to take out Dreamer and Tanaka and they
Speaker 1: don't have our belts? Awesome Raven, you you do get
Speaker 1: your ass out here. We want the belts back, and
Speaker 1: they have a fake come out and play by offspring
Speaker 1: song for Raven and Raven an awesome fire out of
Speaker 1: the back and we're underway. And as far as Raven's
Speaker 1: position of the company, just quickly from Scott Williams book
Speaker 1: on ECW, Raven said that, contrary to what Hayman some
Speaker 1: others in and around the company thought, he had not
Speaker 1: intended simply to wait out his no compete and then
Speaker 1: bolt to the WWF at this point in time. When
Speaker 1: he signed back up at the ECW in August of
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine, Raven had intended to stay. I thought
Speaker 1: ECW was going to go places with them getting TNN,
Speaker 1: he said. I didn't realize Paul. He was so burnt out.
Speaker 1: My drug use had gotten bad by then too. When
Speaker 1: Paul took it as me not caring, in my mind,
Speaker 1: I thought that Paul was fumbling the ball, and I
Speaker 1: thought if he didn't give a shit, then I wasn't
Speaker 1: going to give a shit. That doesn't mean I was
Speaker 1: going to go out there and just lay down, because
Speaker 1: I'd never do that. But there's a definite difference between
Speaker 1: bringing your A game and bringing your B game. So
Speaker 1: this is a Raven's B game if you're keeping score
Speaker 1: at home, Okay, sure nothing. An addict loves more than
Speaker 1: like to say, oh well he doesn't care, then fuck it.
Speaker 1: I'm we went high again, Like they're sitting there waiting
Speaker 1: for someone to like not you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: That was separate so they can go get fire up again?
Speaker 2: What's wrong with that?
Speaker 1: Raven an Awesome ber A Storm Incredible versus dreaming Er Tanaka,
Speaker 1: a three way for the tag titles is up next
Speaker 1: year at Living Dangerously, Mike Still with his ECW title on,
Speaker 1: lifts Landstorm to a stout power bomb and Raven tosses
Speaker 1: Just Incredible out of the ring. Mike Austin clear is
Speaker 1: the top rope with a big plancha down onto the
Speaker 1: floor and to Just Incredible and Jason who was the
Speaker 1: third man UH in the Impact players UH saved by
Speaker 1: him reaching out at the very last second. Mike Austin
Speaker 1: would have had a nasty landing. Indeed, if a Credible
Speaker 1: didn't make that adjustment, or maybe it was Jason Gas
Speaker 1: the credit for catching Awesome. Anyway, Raven with a drop
Speaker 1: toe hold into the chair.
Speaker 2: It's pretty crazy, like like what the like, what the fuck? Like,
Speaker 2: that's just it's insane.
Speaker 1: That Dive was Undertaker Dives twenty five. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: an incredible launch.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think I think awesome is a really
Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's too bad he never really there
Speaker 2: was so much potential there. I agree with him, and
Speaker 2: he never really got a chance to to kind of
Speaker 2: establish himself on on a grander stage.
Speaker 1: Paul was going for it with him, you know, but
Speaker 1: he just he it wasn't getting paid, so fuck that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I know, And that's the thing of like
Speaker 2: just a shame. It's a shame. A ww didn't know
Speaker 2: what to do with him. I mean, he's just so
Speaker 2: easy to book. It's just so simple, Like he bring
Speaker 2: him in as a fucking powerhouse totally, because the thing,
Speaker 2: the beauty of it is is that because he's so quick,
Speaker 2: he's so agile, it's a great way to you can
Speaker 2: book him in a way. They could have booked him
Speaker 2: so that he comes in like like a powerhouse and
Speaker 2: you know, he does like your typical powerhouse things and
Speaker 2: you kind of see him squash jobbers or something like that,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden he does something remarkable
Speaker 2: like this launch over the top rope, and it's like,
Speaker 2: holy shit, you know, like you establish him, you can
Speaker 2: you can really change. Change is the perception of him
Speaker 2: by starting him off as something kind of basic and
Speaker 2: and and run of the mill. But then it's kind
Speaker 2: of all of a sudden, Yeah, he's writing people around.
Speaker 2: He's clearly a powerhouse. And then his time goes You're
Speaker 2: like this guy can do everything. Yeah, yeah, and then
Speaker 2: he fucking does a shooting start press and bracesn exactly Raven.
Speaker 1: With a drop to hold into the steel chair, does
Speaker 1: the snot rag spot he used to do. Now more
Speaker 1: fake music becomes Tommy Dreamer, not to Allison chains Man
Speaker 1: in the box. Unfortunately on Peacock, Dreamer and Tanaka fire
Speaker 1: out of a locker room and he DDT's Raven for
Speaker 1: two does Dreamer. Maka and Mike Awesome comes up and
Speaker 1: lifts and sits out with a power bomb on Tanaka
Speaker 1: as they always used to do. That gets to Tanaka
Speaker 1: and Awesome in the ring mixing it up is to
Speaker 1: knock a mose him down with Larry Atto Storm of
Speaker 1: Incredible now onto Masado Tanaka. They lift him up and
Speaker 1: Storms drop kicks them off of a credible lift. So
Speaker 1: it's like the heart attack, but instead of a clothesline,
Speaker 1: it's a drop kick and a nod to uh sure,
Speaker 1: Storm's Calgary brethren, and that gets a two on Tanaka.
Speaker 1: We now have a pure six brawl here in Danbury.
Speaker 1: Dreamer drops Raven, Storm is tossed to the floor credible
Speaker 1: two by Masado Tanaka, and then Raven and Dreamer have
Speaker 1: some shine spots in the ring. Dreamer hits a bulldog.
Speaker 1: There's the folding chair, incredibles rammed into it. A table
Speaker 1: gets loaded into the ring, and Raven does a bulldog
Speaker 1: bulldog's Dreamer into the corner of the table, which is interesting,
Speaker 1: like instead of going through the table, yeah, breaks off
Speaker 1: the end of him. Yeah, that's kind of cool. I'll
Speaker 1: craple off. I'm not sure they even did it on purpose.
Speaker 1: Awesome then nail storms back with a chair and then
Speaker 1: Raven does a drop to hold on Dreamer into the
Speaker 1: corner of the table is mentioned, and that gets a
Speaker 1: two count. Awesome comes in and cuts down to knock
Speaker 1: up the clothes line style says Awesome and Raven were
Speaker 1: brought together due to their hatred of Dreamer in Tanaka.
Speaker 1: This odd couple getting an explanation there tables cornered Awesome
Speaker 1: with Tanaka. He lifts he's gonna power bomb him into
Speaker 1: the leaned up table, but Tanaka drops down to save
Speaker 1: his ass, ducks clothes line backdrop driver sends Awesome flying
Speaker 1: into the table in the corner. That gets a light
Speaker 1: easy dub chant and then to knock A signals that
Speaker 1: he's gonna hit hit him in with the elbow, drop
Speaker 1: the elbow pad, but he ducks a mic Awesome clothes
Speaker 1: line and then a roaring elbow by beside out. Tanaka
Speaker 1: drops Mike Awesome and he covers the world champion one
Speaker 1: two three, Masi up to Knocka pins Mike Awesome, which
Speaker 1: tells you they were gonna buid towards these two going
Speaker 1: for the belt again. Yeah, if Awesome hadn't bolted.
Speaker 2: And I'm okay with that. Get Raven out of my
Speaker 2: fucking TV fast.
Speaker 1: As we know in trouble thread environments, in easy dub
Speaker 1: three way dances, it's elimination style. So this simply means
Speaker 1: that we will have new champs Raven and uh uh
Speaker 1: sorry Yeah, Raven and Mike Ausame are gone now and
Speaker 1: we go to the remaining teams. Just Incredible and Lance
Speaker 1: Storm versus Tommy Dreamer to knock. A Credible comes in
Speaker 1: and smacks to knock upside the head with the Singapore
Speaker 1: Cane and the Impact players double team Dreamer and the corner.
Speaker 1: Dreamer has bladed for the industry as well, so we've
Speaker 1: got color and yet another match here incredible with the
Speaker 1: whipon to boot and no DDT while swinging in the air.
Speaker 1: That gets too incredible with this just incredible of the
Speaker 1: original George s guy. Yeah, the first coming of John
Speaker 1: Cena is Tommy Hill Austin.
Speaker 2: Austin was a George guy too, That's true. Tag to tag.
Speaker 1: Lance Storm comes in with the job breaker and a
Speaker 1: great dropkick for two. They're holding open Tommy Dreamer for
Speaker 1: a just incredible slap and now we need to tag
Speaker 1: for some reason. Suddenly the rules apply and we have
Speaker 1: to have legal men. I know, I don't get it
Speaker 1: makes no sense. Dreamer worked over in the corner. A
Speaker 1: Credible pulls Dreamer out of the corner where that power
Speaker 1: bomber used to do where you're like on your back
Speaker 1: and he lifts you up and drops and.
Speaker 2: And here's what I think is hilarious. The Dreamer then
Speaker 2: slaps the mat like he has more energy than a
Speaker 2: fucking child, right, But he doesn't run and make the tag.
Speaker 2: He just slaps the mat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he didn't have to tag. It's easy, dub, Well,
Speaker 1: just don't blame the guy.
Speaker 2: Certainly does, but like, why don't you fucking instead of
Speaker 2: if you're if you're hurting and you've been being beaten on,
Speaker 2: but you have enough energy to fucking slap the mat
Speaker 2: after you get power bombed, but you can't go over
Speaker 2: and make the tag.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, It's just it's it's it's stupid. Yeah. It always
Speaker 1: kind of fell apart when they do these multiple mans
Speaker 1: because it was like, I mean, they'd be good and
Speaker 1: entertaining and stuff, but it's like you had to just
Speaker 1: like throw your idea of wrestling out of the window
Speaker 1: and just sit there and watch the chaos because if
Speaker 1: you try to actually like follow who's gonna who win
Speaker 1: and who loss, it was like there'd be pinfalls and
Speaker 1: no one would pop. It would be like what that's
Speaker 1: why did that move?
Speaker 4: Do him?
Speaker 1: Like we just saw something so much more violent ten
Speaker 1: minutes ago that wasn't the finish and there's like a
Speaker 1: small package or a DDT that finishes it. I was
Speaker 1: always overthing ECW. I feel like, so Dreamer dodges Incredible
Speaker 1: accidentally super kicked his own partner land Storm, and then
Speaker 1: Dreamer ddts him and Tanaka comes in. Dreamer tags Tanaka,
Speaker 1: who comes in swinging on every one, hits a blue
Speaker 1: thunder driver on Lance Storm for two. Whip is reversed
Speaker 1: and Tanaka kicks catches a lariat. Jason comes into double lift,
Speaker 1: double stunner from Tanaka and Dreamer the cover, but Credible
Speaker 1: makes the absolutely credible purchase. Dreamer up in a piggyback
Speaker 1: position and beside out Tanaka with a diamond cutter, flying
Speaker 1: off the ropes, taking Storm off of Dreamer's shoulders and
Speaker 1: planting him into the canvas face first one two, very
Speaker 1: close near fall, Like, why does Tommy Dreamer have color
Speaker 1: in this match?
Speaker 2: What is the point? What is the point of Tommy Dreamer?
Speaker 1: Quarter mountain, quarternmount punches now by the baby faces just
Speaker 1: Incredible throws to Knaka out of the ring, and then.
Speaker 2: You know you mentioned it before, but this is the
Speaker 2: first time I mentioned it in uh In on the show,
Speaker 2: but the impact of the mat is insanely crazy.
Speaker 1: They used to mic those mats up, but when you
Speaker 1: got house shows, it was the same thing. That have
Speaker 1: big speakers and that have the mics under the ring,
Speaker 1: and it was like the noise of the ring wouldn't
Speaker 1: just happen at the locus of the ring, it would
Speaker 1: travel like a promo sound into the people. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: were very That was a key part of ECW was
Speaker 1: micing that ring in that way. It always sounded like
Speaker 1: that when they took bumps. And then Tommy Dreamer gets
Speaker 1: him up for the Spacoli driver, but smacked just incredible
Speaker 1: hits him in the head with a cane, and then
Speaker 1: Storm hits the reverse DDT but that only gets two.
Speaker 1: Tanaka then hits the diamond dust which is like the
Speaker 1: flipping stunner on an unsuspected him in the.
Speaker 2: Head with a Glenn Jacobs.
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 2: You hit him and hit him in the head with
Speaker 2: a Glenn Jacobs.
Speaker 1: A dustin diamond and then Storm pile drives Kaka, and
Speaker 1: then Dreamer tries pile driver, but justin credible hits him
Speaker 1: with one of the tag belts in the face. Spike
Speaker 1: Pile Driver by Justin Credible in a cover by Lance Storm.
Speaker 1: One two and three, nine minutes and six seconds, the
Speaker 1: Impact Players defeat Mike Awsome and Raven and Tommy Dreamer
Speaker 1: and Masato Tanaka to become new ECW World Tag Team Champions.
Speaker 1: Here at Living Dangerously two thousand, Cyrus totally marks out
Speaker 1: to the Impact Players, getting the straps back because they
Speaker 1: are network approved.
Speaker 2: I'm over this show, Don.
Speaker 1: Marie and Jason out to celebrate. Belts hoisted, Cyrus jumps
Speaker 1: out of the ring and embraces his fellow Canadian, Lance
Speaker 1: Storm and the kiss up to the network spineless Windbag
Speaker 1: Styles calls them and Cyrus grabs the mic as Don
Speaker 1: Marie's bouncing up and down and says, I'm here to
Speaker 1: tell you the network very much approves of the new
Speaker 1: ECW Tag Team Champions, and there's hugs with Don Brie.
Speaker 1: They shake Jason's hand and they say the word of
Speaker 1: the Stream Championship Wrestling is finally right again tonight. The
Speaker 1: Impact Players the greatest team in network in ECW history,
Speaker 1: and they've delivered the goods for myself and for the network,
Speaker 1: and of course the tag belts were swiftly vacated in
Speaker 1: April when Mike Awesome leaves town. The titles were vacated
Speaker 1: after Just Incredible threw down the belt right before he
Speaker 1: challenged Tommy Dreamer and became ECW World Champion at the Arena,
Speaker 1: and it was it was a point of friction for
Speaker 1: ECW fans because the title was just I mean literally
Speaker 1: that the tag title Reign of Credible and Storm ended
Speaker 1: because Just Incredible just threw the belt down and didn't
Speaker 1: care about it anymore. He didn't lose it. There was
Speaker 1: there was nothing. There's no like formal stripping or anything.
Speaker 1: It was kind of a this isn't going nowhere because
Speaker 1: of the chaos caused by Mike Ausam's departure.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1: And now, just to cap off the night's proceedings and
Speaker 1: to make a very very happy network executive Cyrus says,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit here at ringside and watch well, the
Speaker 1: network's hand pick successor to Rob Van Dam wins the
Speaker 1: ECW television title. He introduces Ryano to the people, the
Speaker 1: network's favorite, and the man monster Rhino comes out. This
Speaker 1: was Rhino with an I, not Rhino with a Y,
Speaker 1: as WW would name him God knows what reason that
Speaker 1: that was.
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't come up with it. Yeah, I don't,
Speaker 2: wasn't wasn't. I feel like JR. May like I feel
Speaker 2: like he was. Rhino was one of those guys where
Speaker 2: he uh JR. Was would go on the Ross Report
Speaker 2: blog there and he would talk about how we got
Speaker 2: Rohino coming in, but he won't be known as Rhino
Speaker 2: when he comes to WWE. Oh really, I don't remember
Speaker 2: something like that he was. He used to always do
Speaker 2: that with a bunch of guys where he'd like say,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, you know him as this, but
Speaker 2: he's not going to be that when he comes when
Speaker 2: he comes to work, when he ends up here, he
Speaker 2: said the same thing. But see him punk once.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, that's one thing you've got me on the
Speaker 1: Ross Report. I used to there was periods when I
Speaker 1: would read it, but I don't remember. I don't know
Speaker 1: the recall of it.
Speaker 2: That you do to me. That was my news, That's
Speaker 2: where I got it. That was news.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why he did it. And Sarah says, uh,
Speaker 1: isn't Rhino going to look good with that East w
Speaker 1: television title around? His ways to Kerno comes out with
Speaker 1: Jack Victor Lie. Sarah says, what the network wants is
Speaker 1: what the network gets, and I personally don't give a
Speaker 1: rats ask whether you like it, whether that is it,
Speaker 1: Hayman likes it. The fact is, when the network wants something,
Speaker 1: by god, Rhyano, the network gets it, and I don't
Speaker 1: care who likes it. And Polly he says, I'm so
Speaker 1: motherfucking sick of the goddamn network.
Speaker 2: He here he comes, the old thing, for here he comes,
Speaker 2: he comes out this whole fucking, this whole fucking thing.
Speaker 4: Who likes that?
Speaker 9: And who.
Speaker 1: Damn fucking that work?
Speaker 9: Here comes the boss a CW owner and executive producer,
Speaker 9: Pull Haymond, and can you appreciate that?
Speaker 12: It's like the man on TNN. I thought it was
Speaker 12: the greatest fucking thing that ever happened me c W.
Speaker 12: What till I learn that we had a deal with
Speaker 12: a fucking.
Speaker 2: Asshole like you?
Speaker 6: Don't make me come down there with Ryo Hayman.
Speaker 2: Why you old it quite going down my fucking air?
Speaker 6: What big boy?
Speaker 1: I want no problems with you.
Speaker 2: I want no problem with you.
Speaker 5: You've got a problem too, late, Hurtner, With all due respect,
Speaker 5: you've got a show to run. And I have some
Speaker 5: un in his business with that asshole Joe Cooder.
Speaker 6: Watch about IRA's your teeth out one more time, fat man.
Speaker 5: I think I echo the sentiments of Paul Hayman and
Speaker 5: everybody involved with ECW when I say we're tired of
Speaker 5: your network, this network that, and tonight, Cyrus you go down,
Speaker 5: your man goes down, and the network goes down.
Speaker 2: Right fucking good stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm glad he said fucking, because if he didn't say fucking,
Speaker 1: it would have been the shits.
Speaker 2: I just it's so it's so contrived. It's them trying
Speaker 2: to make this feel like a main event when it's not. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, they're like dressing it up with all this. You
Speaker 1: notice how like they they try to almost merge the
Speaker 1: two matches, the tag title match in this one, to
Speaker 1: like it's a continuous segment. It's like a continuous shot
Speaker 1: in a film. Yeah right, it's it's to distract from
Speaker 1: the fact that if they let everyone cool down and
Speaker 1: then Super Crazy and Rhino just came out to the ring,
Speaker 1: people like, really, this is the main event, but here
Speaker 1: it's like this, it's like the main event started and
Speaker 1: you don't even realize it. And you're actually reacting to
Speaker 1: people who are over they can cut promos on like
Speaker 1: a Rhino, I'm super crazy. So it's not it's not
Speaker 1: it's not a great place to be, but they they
Speaker 1: it's it's just like I I.
Speaker 2: You know, it's that it's that kind of thing where
Speaker 2: they're they're making like stuff that's not wrestling into the storyline,
Speaker 2: and it's like, you know what, why what we want?
Speaker 1: Rarely wrestlers are trying to win the title because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of money there and that's the fucking thing.
Speaker 1: That's what they're there to do. There's no mind paid
Speaker 1: to the superstructure of the thing. You know, we don't
Speaker 1: need to hear about Roger good L during an NFL game,
Speaker 1: We don't need to hear about Stern during any game.
Speaker 2: Just stop right.
Speaker 1: So Crazy versus Rhino may event time style screaming. Rhino
Speaker 1: represents TN the network. He was a hand chosen successor
Speaker 1: to RVD. Keep driving that home. Super Crazy comes in
Speaker 1: with a springboard drop kick on Rhino and clears Malino
Speaker 1: with a flip dive, jumping over the referees back to
Speaker 1: the floor onto Rhino with a plancha back in corner
Speaker 1: to corner. Whit Crazy with the middle rope moon Salt,
Speaker 1: but it gets caught and Rhino sits out with it
Speaker 1: to no reaction whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right exactly.
Speaker 1: Style says the lasting ECW needs from that overbearing network
Speaker 1: TNN is to have our TV title. So there's quite
Speaker 1: a bit on the line here. Irish Whip. Super Crazy
Speaker 1: holds on in a backdrop attempt. Rhino goes to the apron,
Speaker 1: the right hand is blocked and Super Crazy kind of
Speaker 1: like forces him off. We want Sandman chance start breaking out.
Speaker 2: That's not going to happen. Well it actually it is.
Speaker 2: It does, but you know it's kind of funny.
Speaker 1: They can predict it almost. Yeah, Super Crazy planches whips reverse.
Speaker 1: Crazy goes over the rail on the outside of the
Speaker 1: ring and then Rhino positions a table. He loads Crazy
Speaker 1: back in hits a suplex for two. That table come
Speaker 1: into play later Irish Whip. He lifts Crazy high and
Speaker 1: Crazy crashes into the canvas. Rhino then with a gorilla
Speaker 1: press and drops Super Crazy over the top rope, face
Speaker 1: first down to the floor on to the fucking table.
Speaker 1: Not a pleasant ride, and that gets an my God
Speaker 1: from Joey and Easy Dup chants all around. Ryder lifts him.
Speaker 1: You think he's gonna press him in the ring, and
Speaker 1: he just walks over and throws him.
Speaker 2: Out of the ring. It's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: Rya rolls him back in for a cover that only
Speaker 1: gets too Rhino with a power bomb.
Speaker 2: It's just say it's not super crazy, but it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: He does a Dean malinko Wes power bomb, stack up
Speaker 1: baby one two not enough style, says that he's not
Speaker 1: the object.
Speaker 2: What was it?
Speaker 1: Something he does not want the network I holding the
Speaker 1: title under any circumstances. I oh yeah, he admits, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to be objective here. You know, I have
Speaker 1: a rooting interest. Run Up positions the table up in
Speaker 1: the corner. He goes for power bomb, but super Crazy
Speaker 1: lands on his feet, shot under the corner, kip up,
Speaker 1: Rhino charges ye super Crazy gets out of the way
Speaker 1: and Rhino goes the table under the leap front. He's
Speaker 1: super Crazy Crazy then climbs the opposite corner, does a
Speaker 1: soaring cross body block, but that only gets two. Crazy
Speaker 1: then charges and Rhino chops him down with the clothesline.
Speaker 1: Steve Corino's out there getting heat on the outside of
Speaker 1: the ring. All kinds of help for this one, all
Speaker 1: kinds of supporting cast Yep, everyone's working all the time, Rhino.
Speaker 2: Everybody.
Speaker 1: Crazy rolls all the way through until he finds a
Speaker 1: d DT in mid motion.
Speaker 2: That was a cool spot.
Speaker 1: And then he goes first, second, and third turn buckle
Speaker 1: for that triple moon salt. But for some reason when
Speaker 1: he gets to the top, rh Rhino pulls on the ropes.
Speaker 1: I guess, I don't know, and Crazy lands to Jerry,
Speaker 1: gets in the ring, blows miss and super Crazy's face
Speaker 1: kicks him in the head. Does that seated dropkick he
Speaker 1: used to do, and Crazy does the great cell where
Speaker 1: he's on his knees and he leans all the way
Speaker 1: back while still on his knees.
Speaker 2: Is that a great Oh? Yeah, I still love it
Speaker 2: all He would.
Speaker 1: Work with the Jerry table loaded into the ring, Crazy
Speaker 1: tied up in a tree of woe to Jerry. Another
Speaker 1: great spot. They did running dropkick to the face, the
Speaker 1: exposed face. I don't know how crazy he pulled that off.
Speaker 2: It looked like you fucking killed him. Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I think it was dooring somebody shoot interview said like
Speaker 1: he didn't get it either, un till he actually went
Speaker 1: in there and really and and took the kick and
Speaker 1: he realized, like what it is to Jerry does to
Speaker 1: subtly at that last minute not kick your fucking face in.
Speaker 1: But he didn't explain it, but he said he understood it.
Speaker 1: You know, at first he didn't get how he could
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sure, and then Rhino gore super crazy as well after
Speaker 1: the other kick, the drop kick from to Jerry, and
Speaker 1: then the music hits and Rob Van Dam runs out
Speaker 1: there we go on the shoulders of Scotty Antony k.
Speaker 1: Scotty Riggs got the football jersey on.
Speaker 2: I can't if I didn't see that. I think that's
Speaker 2: hilarious that I missed that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there he is, and again he's got the
Speaker 1: football jersey on. I think it's like the arena football
Speaker 1: jersey of Bobby Duncan junior. He played some kind of
Speaker 1: semi pro football And that was the bit of a
Speaker 1: tribute there from r VD and Riggs, in a shoot
Speaker 1: interview with our video remembers the first time he sat
Speaker 1: down and uh talked with Hayman and stuff. He pulls
Speaker 1: them in there. Tommy Dreamer was wanting to be part
Speaker 1: of the dangerous Alliance. So I take that back. It
Speaker 1: wasn't Dooring. I'm sorry. It wasn't Dooring that was supposed
Speaker 1: to play the Rick Rude in the in the Dangerous
Speaker 1: Alliance or the New Dangerous Alliance. It was Scotty that
Speaker 1: Dreamer proposed to.
Speaker 2: That's fucking gross.
Speaker 1: And that's where Rob came in van dam and said, no,
Speaker 1: I want to do this. It's Scottie. We're best friends. Anyway,
Speaker 1: let's play off that. Oh no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. He wants him to do all this stuff
Speaker 1: with him. We can introduce him to the people, bring
Speaker 1: him in so he's not just off the cuff coming
Speaker 1: in here, establish him a bit with somebody like an RVD.
Speaker 1: So this is all Rob's idea, and Riggs gives him
Speaker 1: major prots. We wanting to do something with him because
Speaker 1: it established him huge word out of the gate in
Speaker 1: ECW give him shot to the you know, the main
Speaker 1: event picture. Paul sat him down and said, well, we
Speaker 1: got to come up with something that's going to be
Speaker 1: good for your personality. It can be a little hokey,
Speaker 1: but I want you to do the clap. I want
Speaker 1: you to do the American Males clap. I want you
Speaker 1: to have got That's what I said. Yeah, he couldn't
Speaker 1: get that out of his head. That is like an
Speaker 1: STD gimmick or what now. They played out the American
Speaker 1: males and they wanted to do the clap. And it
Speaker 1: can be a huge it can be huge. It's a
Speaker 1: baby face thing. But being as you're a heel, when
Speaker 1: you start doing it as a heel, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: your arrogance comes across by what you've what you're doing
Speaker 1: thinking it's the coolest thing to do the clap. But
Speaker 1: if you're a heel, and that's gonna drive people fucking crazy,
Speaker 1: you're like an asshole for doing the clap. That was
Speaker 1: Paulheman psychology and the whole thing, which makes sense. It
Speaker 1: works for the audience, same thing like Austin did when
Speaker 1: he came in and Pillman. So I could do these gimmicks.
Speaker 1: It's like, we all know what I did in w
Speaker 1: W was the shits. You know, Cactus kind of did
Speaker 1: it too. We all know it was awful, so let's
Speaker 1: all have fun making fun of it.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: And so mmmmmmm, And he gives a credit for the
Speaker 1: creativity the whole thing. Okay, And and and the mapped
Speaker 1: out plan. So yeah, RVD comes out, he's got the
Speaker 1: walking boot on, still gets in the ring with the
Speaker 1: crutch and sweatpants, and their RVD chants are big, and
Speaker 1: Riggs clears out to Jerry out of the ring, and
Speaker 1: Bill Alfonso is in there and crack Rhino comes across
Speaker 1: the back with a chair shot. Rhino ducks. RVD lifts
Speaker 1: him up and drops Rhino and pancakes him through the table.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, who does this?
Speaker 1: Rhino ducks, RVD lifts and drops Rhino. Rhino goes through
Speaker 1: the table somehow did already pick him up?
Speaker 2: No? He I mean, I don't remember. It was all
Speaker 2: chaos and I was really just trying to get through
Speaker 2: the fucking whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Rhino goes through the table after failing to neutralize RVD,
Speaker 1: and then that sets up Crazy doing the three moon salts,
Speaker 1: or he just just does one. I think in this case,
Speaker 1: he does one moon salt onto Rhino in the table
Speaker 1: wreckage and gets the one, the two, and the three.
Speaker 1: Seven minutes fifty seven seconds, fifty six seconds super Crazy
Speaker 1: to eat Rhino to win the ECWTV Title Tournament and
Speaker 1: win the championship, Styles says the yes yes, yes, just
Speaker 1: like Cyrus did when the Impact Players won the tax
Speaker 1: Straps and they announce it. But as soon as he does,
Speaker 1: Rhino takes takes him, takes him out. RVD, Riggs gets
Speaker 1: in there with Rhino. He gets Gord as well. Now
Speaker 1: the jury and Krino in there.
Speaker 2: It's a big down.
Speaker 1: Rhino body slams RVD and his death in his damage
Speaker 1: state to Jerry goes after it too that we want
Speaker 1: Sandman chance start to re intensify and the music hits.
Speaker 1: Everyone stops, c Iris bail. Sandman comes out through the crowd,
Speaker 1: goes after Rhino with the cane, hoists it to a
Speaker 1: big pop. RVD gets back up, super crazy hoist the
Speaker 1: TV title. For our closing image, Sandman brings a six
Speaker 1: pack in the ring. He says, kill that song and
Speaker 1: he hands Scotti a beer, RVD a beer, and RVD
Speaker 1: makes the hand motion like he wants to smoke a
Speaker 1: blunt with him and that gets a pop. Alfonso gets
Speaker 1: one too, and yeah, yeah, they replay all the stuff
Speaker 1: that had happened, but the closing visual is super crazy.
Speaker 1: Celebrating with the TV championship is Sandman, RVD and the
Speaker 1: rest of the crew pop Bruce Kis and that's living
Speaker 1: dangerously two thousand. I felt like we lived dangerously for
Speaker 1: way more than we bargained.
Speaker 2: For and just totally unacceptable.
Speaker 1: So I look forward to you pulling another ECW show
Speaker 1: out of random hopper.
Speaker 2: God, please, no, please, God, give me a break.
Speaker 1: Steaks couldn't be higher right now? I know what's it
Speaker 1: going to be next? TLFX style. We go old school here,
Speaker 1: see what we got in terms of show selection? Oh okay,
Speaker 1: thank god. W c W Clash of the Champions twenty
Speaker 1: three Which one is that?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: Let's take a look here. Clash of the Champions twenty
Speaker 2: three three is is Norfolk Virginia main event?
Speaker 1: Oh, arst and Pillman, This is a good one. Vader
Speaker 1: Rude and Sid versus Davy Boy. Just come in, Dustin
Speaker 1: and Sting, Holy Sadam Scorp. Count me the fuck in,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. Finally, we hardly have ever seen Hollywood
Speaker 1: blonde stuff.
Speaker 2: This is the one where it's like.
Speaker 1: The first time people saw main veentor in Steve Austin,
Speaker 1: I feel like across the wrestling community, and then it
Speaker 1: just goes away because Hogan comes in. This is like
Speaker 1: that that that captive period between Flair coming back and
Speaker 1: Hogan coming in where it seemed like a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of guys had shots in this regime and nope, nope,
Speaker 1: Bischoff would be firing Austin in very short order after
Speaker 1: this thing, and Pillman.
Speaker 2: Would be that's right.
Speaker 1: Hey, you want to talk about e A CW manipulating
Speaker 1: the c W thing too? Oh there you go, holy shit.
Speaker 1: In between times, I mean not to scratch it out
Speaker 1: too much. My god, we talk about wild it's gonna
Speaker 1: be there. Class haven't done many clashes, if any, It's
Speaker 1: been a while since've don a clash. I think this
Speaker 1: is just like a sort of run of the mill clash,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, so that's fun. That's a fun way
Speaker 1: to switch it up. Yeah, back to when TBS primetime
Speaker 1: wrestling specials used to matter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking back here, like just at some things.
Speaker 2: I don't think we've done clash in a long time.
Speaker 1: Well, let's do it all right, gear up, We'll see
Speaker 1: you next time on that far looking cast.