WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.440 --> 00:00:07.080 It's Nightside with Dan Ray. I'm WBZ Constance Radio. 2 00:00:07.440 --> 00:00:10.359 Welcome back everybody. We have a couple of three hours 3 00:00:10.439 --> 00:00:12.679 left tonight. Last two hours of the show there'll be 4 00:00:12.679 --> 00:00:17.160 no phone calls because we'll be interviewing twenty twenty great charities, 5 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:19.719 big and small, some you've heard of, some you haven't, 6 00:00:19.719 --> 00:00:22.600 but all of which would be deserving of your support. 7 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:27.600 The twelfth annual Nightside Charity Combine. Now I want to 8 00:00:27.679 --> 00:00:33.000 change to a totally different topic and one that I 9 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:37.759 will admit. I know the individual who were about to interview. 10 00:00:38.399 --> 00:00:42.359 I know how hard he and his family work, and 11 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:46.399 I know what he and his family have endured in 12 00:00:46.439 --> 00:00:51.479 the last couple of years. Speaking of my friend Gary Park, 13 00:00:52.520 --> 00:00:56.399 whose family owns Gary's Liquors in West Roxbury. Gary Park, 14 00:00:56.479 --> 00:00:57.520 welcome to Nightside. 15 00:00:58.320 --> 00:00:59.240 Thank you very much. 16 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:01.159 Gary. 17 00:01:01.439 --> 00:01:03.799 How many hours a week do you your dad and 18 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:06.599 your mom, your brother, family members work? 19 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:07.920 Would you say, in. 20 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:12.480 Total sixty five seventy hours this time of year, it's 21 00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:15.799 eighty plus hours a week A piece, quite a bit 22 00:01:16.239 --> 00:01:20.200 a piece, my piece. My parents are both in their 23 00:01:20.239 --> 00:01:23.560 eighties and they've got to be here at least fifty 24 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:24.959 hours a week minimum. 25 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:27.200 I mean, so you give them a break. They only 26 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:29.680 have to work, they only have to work fifty. 27 00:01:29.400 --> 00:01:33.319 Yeah, I believed telling them, you know, I'll let me 28 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:34.599 retire and you can stay here. 29 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:35.159 So but. 30 00:01:36.840 --> 00:01:41.680 So you have been hit by I would say, a 31 00:01:41.719 --> 00:01:47.359 string of blatant robberies and robbery attempts over the last 32 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:52.519 few years. But the last couple of years. Is that correct? 33 00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:56.159 Yep, it's shoplifting. It's out of control. It's getting worse, 34 00:01:56.519 --> 00:01:59.640 and I just don't know what to do anymore. It's 35 00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:00.879 just out of control. 36 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:07.560 Okay, now you're in this. There's a mall over in 37 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:11.800 West Roxbury on VFW Parkway. There's a CBS next to you, 38 00:02:12.039 --> 00:02:15.120 there's a Producies, there's a nice it's it's it's really 39 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:17.840 the backbone of a community, a place that people can 40 00:02:17.879 --> 00:02:24.240 go uh and uh and and shop conveniently. But now 41 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:27.360 you have some folks who decided why not go win 42 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:32.439 in shoplift conveniently, so the most es go ahead. 43 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:36.840 No, no, I'm sorry, sorry, I'm just basically it started 44 00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:39.879 in the last few years since the pandemic, and it's 45 00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:43.639 just spiraling out of control. You know, You've got all 46 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:48.280 throughout Boston that shoplifting is taking place. And you know, 47 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:51.039 you see these on TV and you see clips on 48 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:53.719 your social media that this takes place in San Francisco 49 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:56.280 and they're just walking in and out of stores. It's 50 00:02:56.400 --> 00:02:59.919 happening here, and for some reason, it's not being reported. 51 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:01.400 When we want. 52 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:04.439 Call the police, I mean almost unless it's a large 53 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:07.439 amount of stuff, they don't even bother to come down 54 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:12.400 because no one will be prosecuted. And it's just, you know, 55 00:03:12.599 --> 00:03:13.919 heartbreaking what's going on. 56 00:03:14.639 --> 00:03:18.759 Yeah, well, what is going on is that the political 57 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:23.840 leaders I do not think are as either aware of 58 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:27.919 what's going on or as sympathetic to the circumstances you 59 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:31.439 find yourself in. And that's my comment. You don't have 60 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:32.879 to disagree. 61 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:35.639 I'd like to believe that, but I mean this. I 62 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:39.159 mean you see CBS's and Walgreens closing all over the place. 63 00:03:39.199 --> 00:03:42.680 They're doing this because these places are losing money. This 64 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:45.159 isn't just somebody coming in stealing a pack of gum 65 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:48.319 or a lipstick or a bottle. These are multiple times 66 00:03:48.360 --> 00:03:51.800 a day, multiple times a week, big purchases. And then 67 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:54.439 you know people say, oh, they have insurance, Well, you know, 68 00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:56.360 you don't have that kind of insurance. And then you 69 00:03:56.400 --> 00:03:59.919 have a thousand dollars deductible unless they steal a cat 70 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:02.840 strof amount of things that's never going to even take place. 71 00:04:02.879 --> 00:04:05.240 And even if you do, you have the deductive but 72 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:08.039 you barely get anything back and then your premiums either. 73 00:04:07.919 --> 00:04:09.080 Go up or you get canceled. 74 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:12.159 So you know, small businesses like mine, our backs are 75 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:15.520 to the wall and we need help, We need relief, 76 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:18.800 We need someone to listen, someone to do something. This 77 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:20.759 has to stop and it has to change. 78 00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:23.680 Well, that's we're going to try to do tonight, because 79 00:04:23.720 --> 00:04:25.399 what I want to do is I want to tell 80 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:30.319 the story you sent me some information earlier this week 81 00:04:30.519 --> 00:04:34.040 and what you went through two weeks, two nights ago, 82 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:38.519 Right about nine o'clock on Wednesday night, you were in 83 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:43.000 the middle of a situation that to me is incredible. 84 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:46.519 You're sitting at the front of the store and in 85 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:51.800 walks a gentleman who takes particular interest in whether or 86 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:56.399 not you're paying attention to him. What do you notice 87 00:04:56.600 --> 00:05:00.519 about that person's demeanor that causes you to say, hmm, 88 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:01.720 I wonder what's going on? 89 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:06.319 Well, shoplifters are like almost like poker players. Everybody has 90 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:08.879 like a tell or a thing that they do now. Normally, 91 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:11.600 you anybody else walks into a store. You know, you 92 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:14.399 walk in, you're looking for your shopping list, you're getting 93 00:05:14.439 --> 00:05:17.360 a carriage, or you're thinking about where you're going. Shoplifters 94 00:05:17.439 --> 00:05:20.279 come in and they lock eyes right on you, and 95 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:22.800 as they're walking in, they're staring at you as they're 96 00:05:22.839 --> 00:05:26.040 walking to see if you're watching them. It's like a 97 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:30.839 dead giveaway. And almost every single time that's the number 98 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:33.360 one thing that you look for. They just keep walking. 99 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:35.279 You know, it's not like they say hey and keep going. 100 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:37.839 They're watching you to see if you're watching them. 101 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:43.040 So in this particular, in this particular instance, your instincts 102 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:45.199 were this guy might be up. 103 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:46.439 You have to know good. 104 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:49.680 So you have cameras in the store like anybody else 105 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:55.000 would understand the security cameras. And I want you to 106 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:57.720 tell the story, but apparently i'll get to the to 107 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:00.279 the point. You told me that this guy had a 108 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:02.560 couple of tote bags with him, you know, the bags 109 00:06:02.600 --> 00:06:07.000 that you could just carry by a handle, and you 110 00:06:07.079 --> 00:06:10.319 had reason to believe that he had put several bottles 111 00:06:10.519 --> 00:06:17.600 of you know, pretty good you know, expensive brillands uh 112 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:21.199 in the in the bags and he saw saw just 113 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:24.399 up to the counter and puts what one bottle up 114 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:29.040 there to pay, which which you knew was yeah, not reality. 115 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:31.360 Let's put it like that. Don't describe what happened. 116 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:34.519 So, you know, he comes in with the two two 117 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:38.680 very large black carry tote bags, which you know Boston 118 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:42.160 you dig about using reusable bags and all this other stuff, 119 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:45.040 so it's not totally uncommon, but you know, it's one 120 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:47.040 of those things that where so many people are doing it, 121 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:49.160 you just have to you know, sometimes you have one 122 00:06:49.240 --> 00:06:50.839 or two bags, you forget to bring one up. It's 123 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:52.560 just something that we have to be careful of. But 124 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:55.680 these were really large bags, and we have shopping carts 125 00:06:55.720 --> 00:06:58.360 for large purchases, and you know, rather than carry some 126 00:06:58.439 --> 00:07:01.120 heavy bottles and cases beer and I need put it 127 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:03.519 in a carriage. But he goes down the aisles and 128 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:05.720 I see him on camera grabbing a few things, putting 129 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:08.519 him in there, and again not totally I'm not jumping 130 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:10.680 right to the gun saying he's stealing. I'm just watching 131 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:13.120 so just to see what's going on, I walk down 132 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:16.199 on one of the aisles and he brazenly walks right 133 00:07:16.279 --> 00:07:18.000 up and he's right in front of the Tequila. And 134 00:07:18.040 --> 00:07:19.920 he goes, which are the better of these two brands? 135 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:21.879 And I said, well, you know, they're both very famous 136 00:07:21.879 --> 00:07:23.639 blah blah blah. And he goes, you know what, I'm 137 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:26.160 going to take one of each, grabs one of each 138 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:28.959 right in front of my face, walks back to the 139 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:31.519 other direction down the aisle. I start to head up front, 140 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:34.079 and I said to the cashier, you know, guy's got 141 00:07:34.079 --> 00:07:36.279 two bottles at Tequila. He's also got two bags that 142 00:07:36.319 --> 00:07:38.199 have a lot of stuff. I heard them even clanking 143 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:40.199 is just make sure that everything comes out of the 144 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:43.759 bag boom. I'm standing off to the side. He comes 145 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:46.600 up one bottle at Tequila in his hand, puts it down, 146 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:49.199 and he says to the cashire, you know, I better 147 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:51.279 go outside and ask my friend if this is the 148 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:54.040 right one. And he goes to walk out, and I said, hey, 149 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:57.120 where's the other bottle at Tequila? And what's all the 150 00:07:57.160 --> 00:07:59.879 clanking in the bag? Oh, I don't have anything, blah 151 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:02.920 blah blah blah. Gives me a little nudge, walks right 152 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:06.480 by and goes right out the door. And you know, 153 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:08.360 at this point, I know people are saying, you know, well, 154 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:10.519 it's Evs. You're crazy. You've got to be careful you're 155 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:12.959 going to do this. This happens so often and it 156 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:16.639 is so frustrating. I'm not a publicly traded company again, 157 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:19.360 so this is coming right out of my pocket, out 158 00:08:19.399 --> 00:08:23.079 of my family's pocket. It just it happens. It hurts, 159 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:24.240 it infuriates you. 160 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:26.120 And you know i'd say to people. 161 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:27.800 I know you say that, but it's like if somebody 162 00:08:27.920 --> 00:08:30.360 walked into your house and grabbed all your wife's jewelry 163 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:31.839 and said, excuse me, get out of my way. I'm 164 00:08:31.839 --> 00:08:34.159 going to walk right out the front door. Nothing will 165 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:35.960 happen to me, and you're not going to do anything. 166 00:08:36.080 --> 00:08:37.200 It just gets you. 167 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:38.559 So what did I do? 168 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:43.039 I went outside, ran after him and tried to reason 169 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:45.519 with him, tried to grab the bag. He drops his 170 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:47.679 cell phone out there, so I pick up the cell phone. 171 00:08:47.720 --> 00:08:49.519 Now I think I have a bargaining chip. And I 172 00:08:49.559 --> 00:08:52.759 said to Amazing, Yeah, you know I know how. You 173 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:56.000 know the police might probably do nothing. I just want 174 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:59.000 my bottles. Put him down on the ground, I give 175 00:08:59.039 --> 00:08:59.559 you the phone. 176 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:00.799 You go way, that'll be it. 177 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:03.440 No, you're not looking at press. You're not looking at 178 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:06.159 press charges right, I know it's going. 179 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:08.320 To be a waste of time. So, you know, I said, 180 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:10.360 just give me the thing. He goes, no, I don't 181 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:12.399 have anything. So he takes one bottle out and puts 182 00:09:12.440 --> 00:09:14.480 it down. I said, come on, look at the bag. 183 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:17.000 So he takes the next bottle out. He says, I'm 184 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:19.279 not giving you anything. Get away from me. I said, listen, 185 00:09:19.879 --> 00:09:22.799 just give me the thing. He throws a bottle, hits 186 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:25.480 me in the arm, smashes on the ground. 187 00:09:25.559 --> 00:09:25.840 Boom. 188 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:28.600 Happens to be like one hundred and eighty dollars bottle 189 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:30.639 that he grabbed off the counter on his way out 190 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:33.159 the door. Now, I'm like, this is just unreal. 191 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:37.200 So now, and you're also now the victim technically, believe me, 192 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:38.960 you're the victim of assault and battery. 193 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:44.879 Assault and battery, right, And you know, you know, I'm 194 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:46.799 the voice in my head says, you know, all right, 195 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:48.799 what are you doing? This could be nuts, but you 196 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:52.080 just get so upset. And I'm following him, and I'm saying, 197 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:53.759 give me the thing back, give me the thing back. 198 00:09:53.799 --> 00:09:56.200 And I don't remember. Wednesday night, it was pouring rain. 199 00:09:56.320 --> 00:09:59.080 I am soaked. I go to reach up and grab 200 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:01.440 one of the two bads off of him, and my 201 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:03.879 wedding ring slides off my finger. I hear it hit 202 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:06.159 the ground. I did grab the bag, but now my 203 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:09.519 ring fell off. He's still running away with the other bag. 204 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:12.519 I stopped because at this point I was sick, because 205 00:10:12.559 --> 00:10:16.279 I figured I lost my wedding rink. I looked, I looked, 206 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:18.200 I can't. I come back in a flashlight. 207 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:18.759 I came back. 208 00:10:19.240 --> 00:10:22.039 Long story short, after twenty minutes. It's in the middle 209 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:24.440 of the street, pouring rain. I find it, thank goodness, 210 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:27.879 but I come back to the store. I open up 211 00:10:27.919 --> 00:10:32.320 the bag filled with bottles. Inside the bag is a 212 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:37.600 copy photocopy of his nass ID driver's license, an ID card, 213 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:41.519 his Social Security card. There's a photo copy of his 214 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:45.720 last Boston police mug shot in booking with the crime 215 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:49.440 everything on it, and another photo copy of his what 216 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:52.120 he got back his personal property when he was released 217 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:56.320 recently from the Suffolk County jail. These papers inside the 218 00:10:56.360 --> 00:10:59.399 bag that he was putting the stolen goods, and I 219 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:00.919 just said, you make this stuff up. 220 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:04.120 Well, this guy's this guy's live. And there's also you 221 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:05.960 told me some drug pair familiar in the bag. 222 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:08.840 There was drug pair of the One of my guys 223 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:11.159 said that looked like crack pipes or something. I don't 224 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:13.320 even you know. And there was little baggies in there 225 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:15.720 with stuff, and you know, I think that's the other thing. 226 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:18.080 People think, Oh, it's just taking a few things from 227 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:20.399 a store, it's not a big deal. They're taking these 228 00:11:20.480 --> 00:11:23.360 things and they're obviously trading them for drugs or weapons 229 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:24.399 or god knows what else. 230 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:25.799 And it's so this guy. 231 00:11:25.799 --> 00:11:30.519 Probably is, this guy's probably homeless. He's carrying his identifications 232 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:31.080 in the bag. 233 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:32.440 Now you have him. 234 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:34.919 You also still have his cell phone. I got to 235 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:37.320 break here for a commercial. Okay, but when we come back, 236 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:41.200 I when it finished the story, you did call the police. 237 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:44.679 You're soaking we and I want to get to that 238 00:11:44.799 --> 00:11:46.639 in a moment. And then I want to hear from 239 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:50.159 listeners and what does this say? Many people are going 240 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:51.480 to sit there and I get and say, well, this 241 00:11:51.559 --> 00:11:53.960 doesn't affect me. I don't own a store, I don't 242 00:11:53.960 --> 00:11:56.919 live in West Roxbury. Whatever, Well, it does affect you. 243 00:11:57.240 --> 00:12:00.360 It affects everybody because it impacts the all day of 244 00:12:00.399 --> 00:12:02.679 life in the neighborhood. The fact that the police are 245 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:06.440 not responding appropriately, that you had to wait two days 246 00:12:06.480 --> 00:12:09.399 for a detective to even show up. And maybe because 247 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:11.240 I made a call on that one later today, I 248 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:15.000 might have prompted that appearance of this late this evening. 249 00:12:15.919 --> 00:12:17.240 We'll get to all of this, I promise. 250 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:19.600 My guess is Gary Parks, the owner of Parks of 251 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:24.039 Gary's Liquor in West Roxbury, the great liquor store by 252 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:28.320 the way, that treats its customers extremely well, has a 253 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:31.679 great staff, a lot of family members, but also employs 254 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:33.799 a lot of people from the community, from the neighborhood. 255 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:40.279 And as long as authorities are not protecting small businesses, 256 00:12:40.960 --> 00:12:42.960 that is one of the first signs, one of the 257 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:46.879 first harbingers that that community is going to pay a 258 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:50.879 very costly price, that a lot of the businesses will close, 259 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:54.559 they'll go away, the quality of life will diminish. It 260 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:59.080 is a downward spiral. And Gary had the guts on 261 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:04.240 Tuesday to defend his property, defend his store at great 262 00:13:04.360 --> 00:13:08.480 risk to himself because frankly, the police are not providing 263 00:13:08.679 --> 00:13:13.039 the protection that his businesses need. And I will say 264 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:17.200 this very clearly. I have requested several times in the 265 00:13:17.320 --> 00:13:20.480 last year an interview with the Police Commissioner to raise 266 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:23.840 some of these issues, and I've been told repeatedly by 267 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:27.279 his staff that he was unavailable. We will get to 268 00:13:27.399 --> 00:13:29.039 all of this if you would like to chime in 269 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:31.919 on this six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty 270 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:34.279 six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. 271 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:35.120 My name is Dan Ray. 272 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:38.120 We're coming right back on Nightside with Gary Park of 273 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:41.120 Gary's Liquors in West Roxbury. This is an incredible story. 274 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:47.399 You talk about blatant, blatant robbery, assault and battery. That's 275 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:49.360 the price you have to pay if you want to 276 00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:52.279 run a business in West Roxbury. There's a lot of 277 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:54.159 people who are going to be willing to pay that price. 278 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:55.799 We'll be back on Nightside right after this. 279 00:13:56.679 --> 00:13:59.799 Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World 280 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:03.080 Excite Studios on WBZ News Radio. 281 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:08.200 But guess Gary Park, owner of Gary's Lakers in West Roxbury. 282 00:14:08.279 --> 00:14:12.399 So the purp has escaped. You have a police officer 283 00:14:12.440 --> 00:14:16.120 who shows up, you're soaking wet. He takes a report. 284 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:22.039 You contacted me yesterday, we talked today. 285 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:26.000 I reached out to a police. 286 00:14:27.120 --> 00:14:30.440 Representative who I know who was upset to hear this, 287 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:35.600 and shortly after that conversation the detective showed up. Uh, 288 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:40.600 you have handed this detective this cortocopia of evidence. I mean, 289 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:43.360 the guy's picture, his identifications, his cell. 290 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:47.080 Phone, you talking about it, video. 291 00:14:49.759 --> 00:14:50.200 And everything. 292 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:52.360 Where do you think this is going to end up? 293 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:55.080 Is this something you have any confidence either that the 294 00:14:55.159 --> 00:14:59.159 district attorney or the police are going to follow this thoroughly. 295 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:01.039 I honestly don't know. 296 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:03.279 I mean, and that's the thing, because you know, I 297 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:05.200 don't know. I don't know where it's coming from. I 298 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:07.639 don't want to blame the police, because you know, when 299 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:09.879 the policemen come down, when you call them, they you know, 300 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:12.039 they look at you like, hey, if I bring this 301 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:14.559 person back, the sergeant's going to say, they're not going 302 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:16.759 to prosecute this guy. Let them go, get him out 303 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:19.000 of here. Don't waste your time with this stuff. So 304 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:22.399 is it high up in the police? Is it the 305 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:25.080 DA's office, is it the mayor's office? You know, I 306 00:15:25.639 --> 00:15:27.320 try to I did a post for a little while 307 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:29.039 on social media and I took it down because there 308 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:31.799 was some political comments this. I'm not trying to make 309 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:34.159 this a political thing. This is a public safety issue. 310 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:38.000 This is a quality of life issue. It's just becoming, 311 00:15:38.519 --> 00:15:41.799 you know, too easy for this to happen, and people 312 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:44.759 just just don't care. And there's a huge cost associated 313 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:47.759 with this, and it's you know, people just say something 314 00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:48.559 has to be done. 315 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:49.080 You know. 316 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:50.879 I even just said that to the detective when he 317 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:51.240 came down. 318 00:15:51.279 --> 00:15:53.519 I said, you know, I understand shop listening is not 319 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:55.879 a violent crime, but I said, so is speeding. But 320 00:15:55.919 --> 00:15:58.519 I said, if you stop enforcing speeding and people are 321 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:01.080 running over children in the street, some killing them, I said, well, 322 00:16:01.080 --> 00:16:02.600 where does it begin? Where does it end? 323 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:02.879 You know? 324 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:06.120 Well, this guy, this guy engaged in the assault, said Gary, 325 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:07.840 this guy engaged an assaulted body. 326 00:16:08.039 --> 00:16:10.159 He fires a bottle at you. That happened to him. 327 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:13.320 You told me your shoulder and your arm, right, what happened? 328 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:16.720 What happens if it hits you in the head, it 329 00:16:16.840 --> 00:16:17.120 could have. 330 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:19.159 And again I believed me, and I said, my god, 331 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:21.080 I have a wife and kids. But you know, the 332 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:24.559 adrenaline's pumping, and you're like that movie. You're mad as Helen. 333 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:27.360 You can't take it anymore. And it's just you're just 334 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:30.159 so set up, and you know, I just. 335 00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:31.600 It's it's right. 336 00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:34.039 I have I have a bunch of calls, Gary, and 337 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:36.120 I want to hear from people here. I want to 338 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:38.080 start it off with Larry called around. Who's the president 339 00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:41.639 of the bust and Police Patrolman's Association. I spoke with 340 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:44.799 him today about it, and I don't know if he 341 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:47.399 did anything, but it was sort of curious that after 342 00:16:47.480 --> 00:16:52.159 I spoke with Larry and detective showed up, Larry called around. 343 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:56.480 Welcome to night Side. I'm told by my guest, Gary, 344 00:16:56.720 --> 00:16:59.200 Gary Parks. I hope, Gary Park, I hope you heard 345 00:16:59.240 --> 00:17:03.399 the entire half that he detected did show up late today, 346 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:07.519 but Gary is very concerned. And you've heard the story 347 00:17:08.119 --> 00:17:11.039 that this guy who should be charged with the salted 348 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:15.400 battery as well as robbery, may be grand theft because 349 00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:18.559 it was over well over twelve hundred dollars worth of 350 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:23.039 liquor that this guy decided to steal, and all the 351 00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:25.160 evidences in the bag. Have you heard everything that Gary 352 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:25.680 has said here? 353 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:27.599 I hope you have, Larry, I have. 354 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:30.160 I've actually been listening most of the night, Dan, So 355 00:17:30.519 --> 00:17:31.519 thanks for taking my call. 356 00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:31.960 Gary. 357 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:35.680 My apologies this is happening to you again, and I 358 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:38.240 say again, I hope it's okay to share. This isn't 359 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:40.319 the first time you and I have had a conversation. 360 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:42.920 I know you had the kids and the bikes that 361 00:17:43.039 --> 00:17:45.960 come in last summer. They ransacked your place. They grabbed 362 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:50.160 everything off the shelves. I know it doesn't do me 363 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:52.799 any good to give you my apologies on the behalf 364 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:55.119 of the men and women answering the calls out there 365 00:17:55.160 --> 00:17:58.160 that I represent. But it's a tragedy, is what it is. 366 00:17:58.640 --> 00:18:01.640 And as you know, I thought we were short four 367 00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:04.359 hundred police officers over the last three four years, as 368 00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:07.000 I've been on this radio show many times, only to 369 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:10.279 find out from the department's own testimony that this show 370 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:13.519 way over five hundred police officers, and that includes the 371 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:16.400 class that just graduated a month ago, which has a 372 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:20.000 trickle up effect. I'll say in this case, I did 373 00:18:20.079 --> 00:18:22.319 speak to a detective after I talked to Dan. I'm 374 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:24.759 well aware that there's been a draft report written and 375 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:27.720 they reached out to you. I'm glad that you're getting 376 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:32.400 some FaceTime and hopefully you'll get some satisfaction. But the 377 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:35.000 big issue remains the same on our side. Not only 378 00:18:35.079 --> 00:18:37.599 do we not have truth and sentencing in the court, 379 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:42.960 not only are there not ramifications for these types of crimes, 380 00:18:43.119 --> 00:18:46.240 we just don't have the help to help the citizens 381 00:18:46.279 --> 00:18:48.440 that own the stores. I mean I've been assigned to 382 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:50.599 West Roxbury for the better half of two decades, and 383 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:53.160 at one point in time I used to do the 384 00:18:53.200 --> 00:18:55.759 Christmas walk and beat down onto your shopping plaster, and 385 00:18:56.079 --> 00:19:00.400 we don't have Christmas walking beats anymore. So I gently 386 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:04.039 challenged the department that you know, we do claim to 387 00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:07.440 follow the community policing model, we just don't have the 388 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:11.200 bodies for it. Community troupe. Community policing means police officers 389 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:13.880 walking in and out in and out of the stores 390 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:16.920 down there during the shopping season. So people that are 391 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:21.400 providing for citizens in Boston, like yourself, people that own stores, 392 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:24.279 don't have to deal with this type of harassment and 393 00:19:24.400 --> 00:19:27.359 theft because the mere presence of a police officer keeps 394 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:30.079 that away. So I found myself wanting to call in, 395 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:33.319 especially after I talked to Dan, and I hoped I 396 00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:35.640 won't name the detective although I did speak to him. 397 00:19:36.119 --> 00:19:37.839 Hopefully he's going to be able to give you. 398 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:41.000 Some satisfaction, Larry. 399 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:43.200 As you probably know, I have reached out to the 400 00:19:43.799 --> 00:19:46.119 BPD to get commission at Cocks to come on this 401 00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:50.920