Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back. For the second half of our
Speaker 1: discussion of stage Fright.
Speaker 2: We'll be picking right up where we left off, so
Speaker 2: without further ado, here's part two.
Speaker 1: Welcome, dear listener, and thanks for joining us. I'm Yanto
Speaker 1: and I'm Stephen.
Speaker 2: And this is a podcast all about the weird and
Speaker 2: wonderful world of the Dark comedy anthology series Inside number nine.
Speaker 1: On each episode, we'll be diving into another one of
Speaker 1: Steve Pemberton and Reese Sheersmith's twisted tales, putting it under
Speaker 1: a lens, and examining it within an inch of its life.
Speaker 2: So make yourself comfortable, grab a cup of tea and
Speaker 2: join us for the ninth degree.
Speaker 1: When you watched this the first time and it got
Speaker 1: to the interval, and obviously you weren't sure what to expect,
Speaker 1: what were you thinking about the first half, because the
Speaker 1: first half is quite you know, a lot of it
Speaker 1: obviously is taken up by Bernie Clifton, you know, which
Speaker 1: is obviously recycled from the show. Was there any sense
Speaker 1: of like, oh, you know, I thought it was going
Speaker 1: to be all original, this is a bit weird.
Speaker 2: That yeah, If I'm honest, the first half I wasn't disappointed,
Speaker 2: but I was expecting something new and exciting. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: then it kind of wasn't, at least in the first half.
Speaker 2: Like there were sections that were knew obviously and it
Speaker 2: was still fun. But yeah, I was slightly concerned that
Speaker 2: the second half is just going to be another episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly how I felt. But luckily you kind
Speaker 1: of get the best of both worlds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess it's designed probably for, like I
Speaker 2: said earlier, people that have brought people that have never
Speaker 2: seen it, so you can give them a flavor of
Speaker 2: the actual show and then go into something new and
Speaker 2: it all still ties together and it's relevant as to
Speaker 2: why they've done it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But yeah, give someone an into the actual series and
Speaker 2: it might make someone watch it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because yeah, then the second half is all original.
Speaker 1: So if you were, I don't know, maybe if it's
Speaker 1: just as sad if someone left for that reason in
Speaker 1: the middle, and then true, well that's therefore for Yeah,
Speaker 1: why would you not sticking it out?
Speaker 2: I can understand people at part way through a show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I've only done that once. Would have
Speaker 1: to be supremely terrible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has to be something I've seen before, like
Speaker 2: i'd know what it was like, you know, a revival.
Speaker 1: Of Okay, so yeah.
Speaker 2: More so that if you left in the middle of this,
Speaker 2: you don't know what's coming up to leave, no, exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like at least if you leave halfway through Oliver, you
Speaker 2: know what the ends. You might not enjoy how they
Speaker 2: did it, but you know what it's going to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I never understand people that leave, especially nowadays. It costs
Speaker 2: a fortune to go exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you paid the money, you might as well. Yes,
Speaker 1: So curtain comes up on act too, and we are
Speaker 1: now watching later de la Sille Terror in the Asylum.
Speaker 2: At number nine. Get someone spent a lot of time
Speaker 2: on those big gates just to go up after literally seconds,
Speaker 2: just to go we're in a number nine honest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's one of the things they do best.
Speaker 1: That's sort of brilliant, thick, classic thing. I was also
Speaker 1: getting Psychoville vibes as well. Yes, sort of run down asylum,
Speaker 1: very sort of spooky location.
Speaker 2: Very very that. Yeah, and yeah, like you said it was,
Speaker 2: it's very their style of horror, like the more sort
Speaker 2: of nineteen thirties. I guess what it is, something that
Speaker 2: kind of era of horror.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the music's brilliant as well. Mm hmm organ you
Speaker 1: know thunder crashes.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's very stereotypical.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love Sometimes a good stereotype is just what
Speaker 1: you want.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a stereotype for reasons sometimes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if you noticed as well, but
Speaker 1: some of the some of the creepy horror music used
Speaker 1: the melody of tears of laughter but put into like
Speaker 1: a horror kind of key.
Speaker 2: Oh I like that. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very clever. So this young woman turns up at
Speaker 1: the asylum.
Speaker 2: Now this is the point where I'm going to struggle
Speaker 2: because I don't know anyone's names, and I don't think
Speaker 2: my program actually says the names. I think it just
Speaker 2: has a Yeah, it just has a list.
Speaker 1: Because I think I can tell us.
Speaker 2: So I know, we have doctor Goudron.
Speaker 1: Doctor Goudron runs the asylum, doesn't he.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: The lady who turns up is called Suzette.
Speaker 2: Susette all right, yes, so paint a picture. She's ditsy
Speaker 2: blonde lady.
Speaker 1: That's well, she's your typical sort of blonde in a
Speaker 1: horror film, potentially, like you know, yeah, the pretty like.
Speaker 2: I said, stereotype for a reason. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's being shown in by I guess a
Speaker 1: sort of matron or nurse or something called Crag Crag.
Speaker 1: That was it, an older.
Speaker 2: Lady, Madam Cragg, who's very o TT.
Speaker 1: I love her, I love so much.
Speaker 2: And there was a whole bit and I don't know,
Speaker 2: I was wondering if someone had forgotten a line, but
Speaker 2: they just seem to stare at each other for what
Speaker 2: feels like a minute.
Speaker 1: They do, Yeah, they get a mine as well. It's
Speaker 1: just that awkward atmosphere, isn't it. What to do next?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like eternity.
Speaker 1: And then she goes, may I take your code?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and everything is so over the like how she
Speaker 2: sort of parades around and twirls and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very good. So the idea is that she
Speaker 1: has come to see doctor Goudron because she's been getting migraines. Yes,
Speaker 1: Reese appears supposedly the doctor that she wants to see.
Speaker 2: In full on like mad scientist, mad scientists, streak of
Speaker 2: white in his hair, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Love it. And there's again there's a league of gentlemen
Speaker 1: bit there that I feel it as a legal gentleman
Speaker 1: bit when she says about my migraines. Yes, he says,
Speaker 1: you're your grains, You're your grains. Very funny.
Speaker 2: It's so great wordplay.
Speaker 1: Yes, were you familiar with the Elements song? Yes, so
Speaker 1: they play that and Reese's character just starts singing it.
Speaker 2: Well, all the bottles light up around him.
Speaker 1: Yes, if you don't know the song, it's the same
Speaker 1: tune as modern Major General from Gilbert and Sullivan Pirates
Speaker 1: appends ance. I think so. It's just it's one of
Speaker 1: those Patsa songs, very wordy and yeah. I was wondering
Speaker 1: whether I should admit this on the podcast or not.
Speaker 1: But I discovered this song when I was in I
Speaker 1: think year eight. My friend showed it to me.
Speaker 2: You can name it, oh can't you?
Speaker 1: Me and my friend learned it. I don't think I
Speaker 1: could still do the whole thing, but I definitely know
Speaker 1: the first bit. There's antimony, arsennic, aluminum, selenium and hydrogen
Speaker 1: oxygen and nitrogen, unium and nickeol, neodymium, neptunium, germanium, and
Speaker 1: I am a risin uthenium, uranium.
Speaker 2: Well done, well done. I can't vouch it's correct, but.
Speaker 1: Well it is. Once it's there in your head, it's
Speaker 1: not going out.
Speaker 2: Reese is going to know it forever, having earlier every
Speaker 2: day for like six months or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then again, this is such a classic cliche joke,
Speaker 1: but it turns out that he's not actually the real doctor.
Speaker 1: He's an escape mental patient who's pretending to be.
Speaker 2: The dogs, having tried to like attack her and perform
Speaker 2: surgery on her. Yeah, yeah, not before you got the
Speaker 2: great line from her of telling him to stop because
Speaker 2: she's allergic to patter songs. Oh yes, but yeah, he
Speaker 2: gets wheeled away, screaming, almost doing He reminded me so
Speaker 2: much of the end of Zanzibar where he gets hauled away, Yes,
Speaker 2: quite similar, mm hmm by the orderly. And we get
Speaker 2: the real doctor, Gudrun Steve. It's Steve, so we've got
Speaker 2: this whole story going on of his wife has recently died,
Speaker 2: she's been beheaded in the grounds of the asylum, and
Speaker 2: then we mustn't must not ever talk about it, so
Speaker 2: immediately sus that does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it gets a bit convoluted. I can't remember exactly
Speaker 1: what the plot was, but it's something to do with
Speaker 1: I believe did he kill his wife and then and
Speaker 1: she Susette witnessed it.
Speaker 2: I don't remember why. I don't remember why. Oh, because
Speaker 2: he was having an affair. Oh yeah, I think he
Speaker 2: was pretty much sleeping his way through the asylum, right,
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, I think she'd found out. Yes, and yeah,
Speaker 2: he killed.
Speaker 1: Her and Suzette witnessed him killing her or burying her
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 2: Yes, and she's been having her migrants ugraines.
Speaker 1: Sit yeah, because she's blotted it out, but the trauma
Speaker 1: is there and it's sort of drawn her back to
Speaker 1: this place.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and presumably with the missing head in the
Speaker 2: hat box.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So he's going to fix her ukraines with trephening. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure when this is meant to be said.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when were they doing that then, trepanning or whatever
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I don't know when that stopped, but.
Speaker 1: I know they were doing some dodgy things in the
Speaker 1: thirties still, like maybe electro therapy and all that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I got the impression that it was like lobotomies
Speaker 2: early nineteen hundred's this like nineteen ten twenties maybe, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, and he's going to perform that
Speaker 2: on her, presumably to go wrong, to kill her as well.
Speaker 1: Yes, so he wants to demonstrate to her how he anesthetizes,
Speaker 1: which is basically by hypnotizing them into a trance state
Speaker 1: so that they don't feel any pain.
Speaker 2: Yes, no Spaghetti old Nase this week though, Yeah, hasn't
Speaker 2: come over from Italy yet. No.
Speaker 1: So to demonstrate he gets Reese's character Hugo back in.
Speaker 1: He's in a wheelchair, yeah, and he basically hypnotizes him
Speaker 1: into a trance and instructs him to saw his own
Speaker 1: leg off. Yes, yeah, I mean it's gruesome, but the
Speaker 1: effect is fantastic. He's obviously in some sort of trick
Speaker 1: wheelchair where his real legs are hidden, and then the
Speaker 1: fake legs are sticking out. But it looks it looks
Speaker 1: very realistic.
Speaker 2: It's very believable. I don't know what it's like right
Speaker 2: up close, but it's very believable from every where we
Speaker 2: were sitting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's done really well. It's quite gruesome.
Speaker 2: Lots of blood, the noise and noises and crunch.
Speaker 1: The soaring noise. Yeah yeah. And then then he snaps
Speaker 1: him out of the trance and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: it's ah my gage in the agony.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, crazy, it's it's gruesome. I like I preferred
Speaker 2: a little bit more blood, but I guessing they probably
Speaker 2: didn't want to cover the stage in blood, and I
Speaker 2: always want blood.
Speaker 1: There would be more blood, I know.
Speaker 2: I want to cover the stage and something that someone's
Speaker 2: going to slip on in ten minutes time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll cover the audience in blood.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's quite a quite a good section there.
Speaker 1: And I think it's around that point after that happens
Speaker 1: that somebody dressed in exactly the same uniform of the
Speaker 1: theater rushers of whichever theater you're in, enters the stage
Speaker 1: with some takeaway coffee cups and interrupts and lights go up,
Speaker 1: and turns out they're in the middle of a dress
Speaker 1: rehearsal for this play. So we're not actually watching the play.
Speaker 1: We've been watching actors doing a dress rehearsal of the play. Yes,
Speaker 1: which I love as a trope. Yes, have you seen
Speaker 1: noises Off?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Oh, it's well, it's a farce, but it's the same
Speaker 1: sort of thing. You start off thinking you're watching the play,
Speaker 1: and then part way through suddenly the director comes in.
Speaker 1: Is like oh no, no, you know, realize you're watching actors.
Speaker 2: That's cool.
Speaker 1: I love trope.
Speaker 2: I've never seen it.
Speaker 1: But also obviously they did it in Salance time as well,
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's a similar thing similar. So can I
Speaker 1: feel like that was maybe a slight slight callback, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can see that, but I love that they went
Speaker 1: to the effort as well. Of whatever theater they told
Speaker 1: it to, they will have said, well, we need one
Speaker 1: of your usher's uniforms.
Speaker 2: Or whatever whatever she's called. I can't remember Abby, Abby.
Speaker 2: Oh god, we're going to hold an Abby and Susette.
Speaker 2: That would be amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, suse was the character's name. Now, Yeah, the
Speaker 1: actress playing Susette is Sherry Sherry, that's it, Sherry something,
Speaker 1: who is a a pop star that's been stunt caste.
Speaker 1: It says in the fake program that she's from a
Speaker 1: girl group called lip Barm Brilliant.
Speaker 2: That's so recent, Steve, And then they made the joke
Speaker 2: of a pop star in a West End show as
Speaker 2: stunt casting. No one will buy it. In a ghost
Speaker 2: shot yeah, two.
Speaker 1: Yes, and yes, Reese is playing Marcus, who is, as
Speaker 1: well as being in the show, is also the director indeed,
Speaker 1: which he's very funny in that role.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he comes back with one of his trouser
Speaker 2: legs missing and starts director.
Speaker 1: And then you've got the younger guy who was the warden,
Speaker 1: and he as an actor is someone who has got
Speaker 1: a tiny part. He's only got one line, but he
Speaker 1: takes it so seriously. He's like, Oh, I'm just going
Speaker 1: to stay in character, if that's all right, And he's like,
Speaker 1: during my research, it's like, does it come across that
Speaker 1: is still struggling with his mental health.
Speaker 2: The PTSD of working in this place. He takes that
Speaker 2: home to his wife every night and bless him. Oh.
Speaker 1: Then you've got Maggie who's playing.
Speaker 2: Crag Yes chunneling her Alison's deadman.
Speaker 1: In the play within a play. She's just had acid
Speaker 1: thrown on her face, hasn't she, And so her one
Speaker 1: of her eyes is like dangling down on a optic nerve.
Speaker 2: Her gubbins.
Speaker 1: Yes, next time they're going to go for a run.
Speaker 1: She's like a gubbins or no gubbins. I love that word.
Speaker 2: I'm going to take it off because it's sleeping in
Speaker 2: my tea, my coffee.
Speaker 1: She's great, she's fantastic.
Speaker 2: She's so the Allison's deedman from Sales Time like everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I love that kind of character.
Speaker 2: It's so over the top but so believable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the same actress who played the posh lady right
Speaker 1: at the start with the daddy.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I think the daddy is the the warden.
Speaker 1: Yes, and then Sherry was also Leanne in Bernie Clifton.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: But yeah. Then you've got Steve Is playing an actor
Speaker 1: called Vince who's playing doctor Goudron and he is he's
Speaker 1: the pompous twat for one of so how it is
Speaker 1: I will Yeah, I was thinking how can I put this?
Speaker 1: And then I was just like, yeah, twat. He's He's
Speaker 1: got a great funny moment there where he's talking to
Speaker 1: the director about Sherry's acting and he says, you can't
Speaker 1: just plump yourself center stage and proclaim all your lines
Speaker 1: out into the ether. While he's doing exactly that, saying
Speaker 1: about how she's she doesn't listen to him, and meanwhile
Speaker 1: he's completely not listening to Marcus, who's trying to speak
Speaker 1: acting is reacting very very funny, and we get this
Speaker 1: scene of the director giving notes Hm, which again as
Speaker 1: someone who has been in that position. I found this
Speaker 1: particularly funny. The different responses you get to the notes
Speaker 1: are so true. Like he gives Maggie a note he says,
Speaker 1: could we have this feeling of blah blah blah? And
Speaker 1: Maggie goes, oh, I thought I was doing that. I
Speaker 1: that all the time, Like, if you were doing that,
Speaker 1: then I wouldn't have said nothing. Yeah, yeah, And then
Speaker 1: he gives himself a note. He'e like, Marcus, Oh that's me.
Speaker 1: What have I written?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Two ticks?
Speaker 2: Practically perfect in every way.
Speaker 1: Yes. I was doing a play once and someone got
Speaker 1: stabbed in it and they were wearing a jumper and
Speaker 1: then the shirt they had on underneath had a blood
Speaker 1: stain on it so that we could take the jump
Speaker 1: off and have the blood, you know, And for some
Speaker 1: reason I wrote down I think this was during the
Speaker 1: tech or the dress. So I was in a dark
Speaker 1: auditorium trying to write notes, and I wrote down bloody shirt.
Speaker 1: And then the lights come up and I was trying.
Speaker 1: I was going through notes with the cast, and I
Speaker 1: was like, well, have I written bloody shit? That doesn't
Speaker 1: bode well, But yes, I love this. It's something they
Speaker 1: do so well, isn't it where they've set up this
Speaker 1: really tense atmosphere and then they just cut it completely.
Speaker 2: It just shatters.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, there's a bit of a meta moment where
Speaker 1: Reese's character is talking about the juxtaposing of comedy and horror,
Speaker 1: which obviously relates to what we're watching as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he says, it's what the pioneers of horror theater used
Speaker 1: to call the hot and cold shower, which is really nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because again that's what nit inside Number nine is all about,
Speaker 1: isn't it.
Speaker 2: Oh massively. Yeah, they're always joke to lull you into
Speaker 2: a false sense of security, and yeah, they are masters
Speaker 2: at that technique.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I like that.
Speaker 2: It seems like everyone accept Reese's character wants rid of,
Speaker 2: or at least these character wants rid of the sus
Speaker 2: that character that Kara remember the name.
Speaker 1: Of now Sherry. Yes, so they all basically agree that
Speaker 1: she's no good.
Speaker 2: No, but she's necessary for tickets. Yes.
Speaker 1: The director's like, oh, you know, she's nobody else has
Speaker 1: got her reach, which again is so painfully true of
Speaker 1: commercial theater.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw a thing recently that a couple of
Speaker 2: days ago that they said that they felt like it
Speaker 2: was hurting, Like if you don't have a famous name,
Speaker 2: then yeah, because the amount of famous names are in stuff.
Speaker 2: Anything that doesn't now, no one watches it and they
Speaker 2: just fail. It's just like something they need to get
Speaker 2: away from doing. Well.
Speaker 1: I've heard tales of people auditioning for things and being
Speaker 1: asked at the audition how many Instagram followers do you have?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 1: Yeah, as if that's you know, relevant, elevant. Yeah, so crazy.
Speaker 2: Lip balm must be quite famous.
Speaker 1: It sounds so awful.
Speaker 2: They so came third in one series of X Factor. Yeah,
Speaker 2: series twenty seven of X Factor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, lip balm.
Speaker 2: You could just imagine that one of them would have
Speaker 2: that have had different shades of lip balm. Each one
Speaker 2: was magenta and.
Speaker 1: I'm rose gold. So I think if it had been
Speaker 1: like lipstick, like that's quite sexy and like, that could
Speaker 1: have been quite a but lip balm is just quite
Speaker 1: sort of like, oh, you know, to stop my lips
Speaker 1: getting chapped, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was trying to jazz it up, but yeah, probably. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So then we get introduced the use of the live
Speaker 1: camera feed on a big screen.
Speaker 2: Which seems to be a big thing nowadays. Yes, I
Speaker 2: don't Have I seen anything that's used it. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I have, but I know it's it's been
Speaker 2: in a lot of stuff recently, and it's what's the
Speaker 2: guy that does it all the time. Oh, there's a
Speaker 2: certain director, isn't.
Speaker 1: There, is it Jamie Lloyd, that's the one. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: did it for e Vita where she goes to sing
Speaker 1: out out the window but the people in the theater
Speaker 1: are actually watching on the screen, which is a bit weird,
Speaker 1: like the big song to see her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then I someone it out you can just
Speaker 2: go and watch it the next day.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they comment on that as well, like there's
Speaker 1: a whole discussion about whether it's you know, whether it's
Speaker 1: appropriate for theater within the play. Yeah, and Vince and
Speaker 1: Maggie are like, oh no, it's it destroys the magic
Speaker 1: of the theater.
Speaker 2: Get Steve's great line, if you can't walk down Shafts
Speaker 2: three Avenue without bumping into some with a camera, I'm
Speaker 2: sure needs bleeping.
Speaker 1: But yes, oh yeah, yeah, did you notice the logo
Speaker 1: of the company did the camera technology?
Speaker 2: I was going to ask at the end, how many
Speaker 2: hairs you' supported?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's quite a few, aren't there.
Speaker 2: There are a few.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we get a nice, nice hair within the logo,
Speaker 1: which is nice silhouette of yes. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah. Then the stage starts to sort of disappear,
Speaker 2: and people keep wheeling bits of it off until I
Speaker 2: think you just left with the screen and maybe a
Speaker 2: couple of chairs. Yes, I think we skipped over a
Speaker 2: bit where they've practiced the head drilling bit. Oh yes,
Speaker 2: UZ's character and you think that she's died, and then.
Speaker 1: She's just practicing, Maggie says. She says something about, oh
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? Snuff theater another callback for us? Yep,
Speaker 1: So Sherry needs to do a self tape, to do
Speaker 1: a self tape, and then Abby from front of house
Speaker 1: has agreed to help her with it. Yeah, she's probably
Speaker 1: a better actor, and we established that in this that yeah,
Speaker 1: that Abby is. She is an actor, but she doesn't
Speaker 1: get any auditions. She's she's really struggling.
Speaker 2: Bless her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh she's so bad, isn't she. What I loved
Speaker 1: is how when she's doing her lines, she's like really acting,
Speaker 1: and then between lines she just comes out of character. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, no, you're meant to stay in characters.
Speaker 1: The whole time.
Speaker 2: You are this person the whole time, whether you're talking a.
Speaker 1: Lot, acting, is reacting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like someone pointed out earlier that she it's
Speaker 2: just her lines and gaps in between as far as
Speaker 2: she's concerned, exactly. We've got a camera on stage that
Speaker 2: they were using earlier is being its live feed is
Speaker 2: being broadcast at the back of the stage on the
Speaker 2: screen showing her self tape and you can sort of
Speaker 2: see into the wings a bit, at which point a
Speaker 2: sheet moves and Abby goes off to investigate. Does she disappear?
Speaker 2: I don't think she comes back, does she?
Speaker 1: I think she does disappear. I know there's a bit
Speaker 1: where they rewind the tape to just check it again,
Speaker 1: which is quite clever. I'm assuming that's actually rewinding.
Speaker 2: I assume it.
Speaker 1: It was literally just films the seconds ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that is live footage. Yeah, or if not,
Speaker 2: it's very faked, well very well. Yeah, but yeah, I
Speaker 2: think Abby disappears at that point, and Shirley Sherry Cherry
Speaker 2: I can't hold this one's name in my head, takes
Speaker 2: the camera because I think it's the only source of
Speaker 2: light that's right, yes, and goes to investigate. Now, I
Speaker 2: assume you were realized here that the theater becomes a
Speaker 2: cinema for about a minute and a half. What do
Speaker 2: you mean in that? It's just so she takes the camera.
Speaker 1: Oh so that's pre recorded, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she bombs into it. She bombs into a curtain
Speaker 2: and it cuts to a pre record.
Speaker 1: Yes, And I don't think I assuming they use the
Speaker 1: same footage every venue, because it looks exactly like it
Speaker 1: looked in the West End.
Speaker 2: It did I wondered if the West End were I
Speaker 2: bet I assume the West End one was probably done once.
Speaker 2: That's probably actually the Windoms.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, and then they've taken that around on the tour.
Speaker 2: Well for starters, they've got to do some creepy edits
Speaker 2: in it, but also what if there isn't a sell
Speaker 2: her exactly?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And actually I've actually performed at the theater
Speaker 1: that I saw it at, so I know what the
Speaker 1: backstage looks like, and it doesn't look like that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it gets again. It's talk about callbacks. It's incredibly deadline.
Speaker 1: The cell section totally the end of deadline.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't think I realized, Well, there's no
Speaker 2: reason why I should have done. But I don't think
Speaker 2: I realized that the windows that that wasn't live. I
Speaker 2: think I bought that it was live.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it makes sense, and.
Speaker 2: Was desperately trying to remember what happened in it for
Speaker 2: when I rewatched it, thinking I wonder if this is live.
Speaker 2: It's like, no, I'm recognizing that's barrel staircase. There is bits.
Speaker 2: So yes, you get a few little jumps in there.
Speaker 2: You get bloody bell appearing and then disappearing very quickly.
Speaker 2: You get a impossible to misshair.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean something something drops from the from
Speaker 1: the lighting rig, doesn't it or something?
Speaker 2: Oh, I was going to mean, that's in the hat box.
Speaker 1: That's what that's before something drops and then she goes
Speaker 1: to the hat box.
Speaker 2: I thought I thought the thing drops that.
Speaker 1: Oh maybe it does.
Speaker 2: I think that's what makes up Yeah she she she
Speaker 2: goes to the hat box, opens it up and pulls out
Speaker 2: her hair, at which point the thing drops and that
Speaker 2: makes up the hair down and run back upstairs. Yes,
Speaker 2: success not sure what it is that drops. I want
Speaker 2: to say, is it a stunt head? I think I'm
Speaker 2: not sure. I think it's a prop of a head.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's all quite creepy at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 2: audience benefit. There's not a lot of there's no music,
Speaker 2: it's just very creepy noises. And then Sherry makes her
Speaker 2: way back to the stage picks up the whatever dropped.
Speaker 1: I think it's Ahead, must be ahead, yeah, because that
Speaker 1: should have been in the box, shouldn't it. So yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: that would makes sense. And then the ghost appears full.
Speaker 2: On center stage, arms outstretched like the ring.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and scares the living Jesus out of her and
Speaker 2: she runs away screaming.
Speaker 1: And then it turns out, in true Scooby Doo fashion, it.
Speaker 2: Was old Man Jenkins all along. Yeah, because I remember
Speaker 2: the first time watching it thinking they're holding on this
Speaker 2: ghost far too long. If it is a jump scare
Speaker 2: and it's meant to be real, aready? Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 2: you find out that it's actually Abby in a costume.
Speaker 1: Yes. And she planned it with Marcus.
Speaker 2: To get rid of Sherry. Yes, and cause presumably calls
Speaker 2: some drama that they and spin in the in the news.
Speaker 1: Yeah, get some ticket sales.
Speaker 2: Get some publicity. Yeah, right, what if she comes back,
Speaker 2: We'll do it again, Yeah, I've already rigged up her
Speaker 2: speaker in a dressing room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But then the sad thing is that Abby was
Speaker 1: led to believe that this was being done so she
Speaker 1: could go into the role. But Marcus has no intention
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 2: No, who else we could have?
Speaker 1: Apparently he's going to offer it to Sheridan Smith.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sheridan Smith.
Speaker 1: Why not take that off? Another call back?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we've got to name one of the biggest names.
Speaker 1: So what does she do? She kills him.
Speaker 2: She kills him out of the blue there and then yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: snaps his neck and he drops the floor. Anything else
Speaker 2: after that or is that.
Speaker 1: Just I think that's essentially quote unquote the end end.
Speaker 2: Of the play. Yeah, at which point we get the
Speaker 2: cast to come on and do bowers Yes, and you'd
Speaker 2: expect or do they well? Yeah, So then we get
Speaker 2: a nice little speech from Steve how this is a
Speaker 2: plage written with Reese and it was really hard for
Speaker 2: him to continue with it because I assume in dress.
Speaker 1: Rehearsals, Yes, I think they do say that, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Reese had died, He'd fallen down a trapdoor and died.
Speaker 2: At which point, if you're not close enough to realize
Speaker 2: you work out that it's not Reese on stage, it's
Speaker 2: Toby Reese's understudy.
Speaker 1: So okay, so let's say what was it like for
Speaker 1: you the first time you saw it, you know, the first.
Speaker 2: Time, first time I saw it. I mean, my eyesight's
Speaker 2: not fantastic. I don't think I realized it wasn't Reese
Speaker 2: right at the curtain call. Yeah, I mean I was
Speaker 2: reasonably close and he had on a dodgy wig, and
Speaker 2: I was like, well, that's just Reese and all of
Speaker 2: these things. He always has a dodgy wig.
Speaker 1: He's quite a good look alike of Reese.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, reasonably, I mean, he's a yeah, but.
Speaker 1: I'm sure I remember watching it thinking, oh god, he
Speaker 1: looks so different, and you know, being unsure as to why.
Speaker 1: And then of course it will make sense when he
Speaker 1: starts to say, well, you know, unfortunately Rees died and
Speaker 1: we've had to use his understudy the whole time. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a funny idea.
Speaker 2: It's a weird one in that I like it, but
Speaker 2: it is a weird one that Steve is on stage
Speaker 2: in theory, like having this quite heartfelt emotional speech about
Speaker 2: his best friend whilst half of the audience is just
Speaker 2: laughing because they know what's going on, but he has
Speaker 2: to pretend like you can't hear that, and it's actually
Speaker 2: deadly serious.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think it is a good job though.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's an odd environment though. Yeah. So the twist
Speaker 2: of the whole thing, Reese is dead, which did you
Speaker 2: twig because I read but didn't realize it's not Reese
Speaker 2: at the start.
Speaker 1: Either, in the very very beginning. Yeah, the auditorium bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the curtain opens on Reese, but it isn't Reese,
Speaker 2: that's Toby.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He then leaves and comes back, and then it is
Speaker 2: Reese from then on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is nice. I don't think I realized that.
Speaker 2: No, it's quite obvious when you watch it the second time,
Speaker 2: when you know. But yeah, I think it's a good
Speaker 2: I mean it's not the Is it the best twist
Speaker 2: in the world, Not really, but I thought it was good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's clever. Yeah, it's a bit I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's a bit morbid. I know that they love that
Speaker 1: sort of thing anyway, They did the whole pretending to
Speaker 1: be dead thing with each other for years. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: personally I find it a bit like if it was me,
Speaker 1: I would be a bit like, Oh, that's a bit
Speaker 1: a bit creepy to do that. Yeah, do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean?
Speaker 2: Part of me thinks that that is what they would do,
Speaker 2: though I bet they would say that if one of
Speaker 2: them died, just carry on to it. We've worked on it,
Speaker 2: and do it as like our last thing together kind
Speaker 2: of thing.
Speaker 1: But the question that I have about this whole thing
Speaker 1: is do recent Steve actually have understudies for this show?
Speaker 2: Well? I was talking about this at the stage door yesterday,
Speaker 2: think and I think our conclusion was you have to
Speaker 2: treat it like it's a gig where you're seeing I
Speaker 2: don't know, Olly Murs or whatever, and if he's ill,
Speaker 2: it's just canceled.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's there's no if if they tried to
Speaker 1: do it with an understudy for either of them, this
Speaker 1: whole twist would just not work.
Speaker 2: The whole concept doesn't work. Yeah, Plus everyone's gone, like
Speaker 2: a lot of people will have gone purely to see them.
Speaker 2: I know, in a thing you don't you'd get understudies,
Speaker 2: but it just wouldn't work. I don't think it wouldn't
Speaker 2: be fair to expect someone to paid that to go
Speaker 2: and see them and not see them. Like in the
Speaker 2: same way if you go to see Jimmy Carr and
Speaker 2: he's ill, you can't just send an understudy. Yeah, you've
Speaker 2: gone to see that person.
Speaker 1: Yeah. They must have just like dosed themselves up on
Speaker 1: vitamins and yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean I've not heard of any show as being can.
Speaker 1: No exactly because yeah, they must have done. They must
Speaker 1: have done every single one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So when I went to see it in the
Speaker 2: West End, I did go to the stage door and
Speaker 2: did get my program signed. But they did make a
Speaker 2: point of saying that they weren't taking any photos. They
Speaker 2: weren't They didn't want any handshakes or hogs or anything
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: They didn't want to pass on anything.
Speaker 2: They didn't want to risk that. Yeah, which is fine,
Speaker 2: makes sense. Oh, yeah, it was nice that they did it. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: they signed my program. I went with my hair yesterday,
Speaker 2: but they didn't come out, which is a shame. Apparently
Speaker 2: they never have on the tour. Yeah, I guess it's
Speaker 2: a lot more traveling. They're more likely to pick something up, yeah,
Speaker 2: minimize it, plus it with a matinee, so they probably
Speaker 2: wouldn't have left anyway. Yeah, so, yes, that was unfortunate.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, you took your little hair. I did
Speaker 1: to try and get it signed. I tell Ben, I said,
Speaker 1: he's hoping that they'll sign his hair. Then was like,
Speaker 1: sign his hair?
Speaker 2: They made me check it in at the at the
Speaker 2: cloak room. Would let me take it into the auditorium.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's where you see that. One hundred other audience
Speaker 1: members have all so brought a hair.
Speaker 2: I woundered that, but no, I was the only one, well,
Speaker 2: the only one that had got it seen and had
Speaker 2: had to had to surrender it. I did see someone
Speaker 2: mentioned like that they'd seen it at the at the
Speaker 2: Cloak room and thought that it was just a prop.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, that's quite funny. Yeah, but yes, I like
Speaker 1: with this understudy thing, how they you know, they make
Speaker 1: a joke out of the fact that it's supposedly even
Speaker 1: though we've really been watching Reese aw night. The idea
Speaker 1: is that actually we've been watching Toby, but we've all
Speaker 1: just seen Reese because we expect to see him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're sort of seeing it through Steve's eyes,
Speaker 2: who is seeing it as Reese.
Speaker 1: Yes, which explains why why they re enacted Bernie Clifton's
Speaker 1: dressing room for us, because it has that similar theme
Speaker 1: of you know, a double act and one of them's
Speaker 1: died and the other one is just seeing them there exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And there's a reference to so earlier on in the
Speaker 1: first half, Reese says about jopas Squally is about as
Speaker 1: current as a Rubik's clue. Yeah, he says clue instead
Speaker 1: of cube. Yeah, and then they just brush it under
Speaker 1: the carpet and move on. And then at the end
Speaker 1: here this Steve says to Toby, Oh, there's a few
Speaker 1: lime fluffs, wasn't there Rubik's clue, which is a great.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I bought it the first time. Yeah, totally that
Speaker 2: it was just a fluff.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's very clever. And obviously the fact that it
Speaker 1: was the word clue. Yeah, they're so clever.
Speaker 2: That's ballsy to say that as well. Yeah, for that
Speaker 2: to be the clue, the word clue, Yes.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So there we go. We have a big
Speaker 1: round of applause for Toby. Everyone takes their final bow
Speaker 1: and cut down. That's the end of the play. The
Speaker 1: house let's come up and yeah, so everyone, for me,
Speaker 1: when I went to see it last week, everyone just
Speaker 1: sort of sat there awkwardly, like like they didn't quite
Speaker 1: believe that could be the end. Spoilers, it wasn't.
Speaker 2: But it goes on for a long time. There's not
Speaker 2: a lot, nothing happens for a good minute or two,
Speaker 2: and people, mind, were starting to stand up, not many,
Speaker 2: but a couple of on the ends were starting to
Speaker 2: stand up and leave. But then we get Steve's mike
Speaker 2: has been left on so we can hear what he's
Speaker 2: chatting about in the durssic room.
Speaker 1: I guess, well, I think he's still on stage because
Speaker 1: you can see his silhouette of course, and then a
Speaker 1: light falls on his head. How convenient, and we love
Speaker 1: the other one. Yes, so he also dies. The curtain
Speaker 1: comes back up and essentially we're in heaven. We see
Speaker 1: Reese all in white yeah.
Speaker 2: And Wise style yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And Reese comes up to Steve, who's lying on the
Speaker 1: floor and he says to him, how, just like old times,
Speaker 1: you lying on the floor, but it tends to be dead.
Speaker 1: Steve looks him and he says, Toby goes no, it's
Speaker 1: not fucking Toby. And Steve also says, so, Ree, you know,
Speaker 1: I can't believe the twist is that you were a
Speaker 1: ghost the whole time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is that a sixth sense reference or is that just
Speaker 1: a generic Oh?
Speaker 2: I took it that it was a bit of a
Speaker 2: jab at themselves, that it's a bit unriginal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And Reese does say finally ran out of ideas.
Speaker 2: Well, they don't need anymore. They've died now.
Speaker 1: No exactly, it's all done now. But it's quite quite sweet,
Speaker 1: actually quite touching when Reese says, oh, well, we've got
Speaker 1: unfinished business because you cut the song in Bonny Clifton's
Speaker 1: dressing room. Yeah, and Steve says he couldn't do it
Speaker 1: without him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really sweet, and.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's the perfect way to.
Speaker 2: End it is I was. I Do you remember being
Speaker 2: gutted that they didn't do the song, that they weren't
Speaker 2: going to back then?
Speaker 1: No, it makes sense to actually do it right at
Speaker 1: the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh yeah, this it's a perfect end.
Speaker 1: We also get a sneaky little admission from Reese once
Speaker 1: Steve has gone off stage to change that it was
Speaker 1: actually him that did the light he was aiming for Toby.
Speaker 2: And then we get a nice little rendition of tears
Speaker 2: of laughter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lovely sort of heavenly performance with the
Speaker 1: whole cast as well. Everyone comes and joins.
Speaker 2: In feathers and white hats and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the way that the song's been orchestrated
Speaker 1: and everything, like it becomes very glitzy and show stoppy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and have extended it quite a bit those new verses.
Speaker 1: One of the lyrics is come and dance with us
Speaker 1: upon cloud nine. So I guess the whole show has
Speaker 1: been on this cloud nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the the nine of the episode is cloud nine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very clever.
Speaker 2: Yeah. When they're getting some new bad dad jokes, m hmm.
Speaker 2: I think my favorite is he bought one of those
Speaker 2: new glass fronted coffins. What's it like remains to be seen?
Speaker 2: And saying some words some words you plethora, that means
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 1: And then the person who played the ghost for the
Speaker 1: Jump Scares comes on and just screams on intelligibly, and
Speaker 1: he goes, you can't even explain what that means or
Speaker 1: something of that, something.
Speaker 2: You don't know what that means to us or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, something along those lines.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the fact that she's still got a feather
Speaker 2: boa on and with a hair all figure like blood
Speaker 2: everywhere but filled with feathers. Yeah. Yeah, and we have
Speaker 2: a nice little chorus line type dance routine situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, big finale.
Speaker 2: They all disappear off the backing backing singers and dancers,
Speaker 2: leaving the ghost like to keep them company. Before you
Speaker 2: get the last line of laughter is our memory of
Speaker 2: you and points at the audience, which is so sweet.
Speaker 1: It's like the wrapping up of the whole projects. It
Speaker 1: really is number nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, beautiful, perfect ending. Yeah. I hope they're proud of it.
Speaker 2: I hope they are. They did a great job. I
Speaker 2: guess we should raise it, but I don't really.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, yeah, like I feel like
Speaker 1: we should.
Speaker 2: But feels unfair to compare it.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not an episode. Oh yeah, I think
Speaker 1: you're right. I think it would be unfair actually to
Speaker 1: try it, because it's like something that's so outside of
Speaker 1: the category of everything else. But safe to say that
Speaker 1: we both really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, yeah, we really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: I had a great time. I'm glad I saw it,
Speaker 2: got to see it twice, and I hope that we've
Speaker 2: sort of painted a picture for people didn't get to
Speaker 2: see it. I was in the like I said, in
Speaker 2: the queue for the stage door yesterday and the woman
Speaker 2: behind me had flown from New Zealand to see it.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: I mean she'd said that that was her reason for coming,
Speaker 2: but she'd been here for like five months now, okay,
Speaker 2: so she'd made a trip around it. But that was
Speaker 2: the impetus for the trip happening.
Speaker 1: Oh fair enough.
Speaker 2: And I so wanted to say, of all the places,
Speaker 2: why did you come to the one in all? Yea,
Speaker 2: bless you. I'm going to get angry letters from the
Speaker 2: people of whole maybe I don't know if they can write,
Speaker 2: so it's okay.
Speaker 1: So we also put out on social media and asked
Speaker 1: for our listeners to let us know if they've seen
Speaker 1: Stage Right what they thought of it. And well, we
Speaker 1: were quite overwhelmed actually with the number of people that
Speaker 1: wanted to say something about it.
Speaker 2: That's nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel really bad that we can't read out
Speaker 1: everything that's been sent in.
Speaker 2: But this podcast might already be two hours long as it.
Speaker 1: Is exactly yeah, so we'll give you a flavor. Daniel
Speaker 1: said to us that it's absolute genius. He says, I
Speaker 1: went in with my girlfriend, who is not an Inside
Speaker 1: Number nine fan and knows very little about the show.
Speaker 1: I'm an Inside number nine super fan. I think it's
Speaker 1: a reflection of how brilliant the stage show is that
Speaker 1: both of us came out of the theater praising the
Speaker 1: show endlessly. To be able to find the balance between
Speaker 1: nods and references for the fans and appealing to those
Speaker 1: who are new to Inside Number nine is incredibly difficult,
Speaker 1: but they've definitely done it.
Speaker 2: Armani says, brilliant from the very moment it starts. It's funny,
Speaker 2: clever and twisted. Everything we love about the show.
Speaker 1: Paula says that she traveled to London from the Northeast
Speaker 1: to see it at the Windhams and caught it three
Speaker 1: times in Sunderland and got tickets with the last one
Speaker 1: in Birmingham, so that is definitely dedication. She's very clever
Speaker 1: and very funny from start to finish.
Speaker 2: Tilly says, I had no idea what to expect, but
Speaker 2: knowing Stephen Reese, I was prepared for plenty of surprises
Speaker 2: and twists along the way. The live camera was such
Speaker 2: a clever touch. It freaked me and my sister out
Speaker 2: when we saw ourselves on the screen in the second row.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think we mentioned that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that was a good point.
Speaker 1: No, we didn't, but yeah, that was a very clever,
Speaker 1: clever touch and.
Speaker 2: The cut to empty theaters as well.
Speaker 1: Yes, William says Reese was sat behind us at Pizza
Speaker 1: Express before the show and we'd asked if there was
Speaker 1: a twist and he just winked at us. No way
Speaker 1: we could have predicted that.
Speaker 2: Henry says, I thought it really captured the spirit of
Speaker 2: the show. Glad Bernie Clifton's dressing Room wasn't entire play,
Speaker 2: but it's one of my favorite episodes, so I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Also got a message from Karina, who, funnily enough, when
Speaker 1: I went to see it on the tour, I posted
Speaker 1: to our story so I was there and she was
Speaker 1: actually at the same show, and she messaged me. In
Speaker 1: the interval, she says, it's a huge inside Number nine fan.
Speaker 1: It was a muss see also unique to our show
Speaker 1: when it turned into the Bobby davrou Show. Because I
Speaker 1: was on the side, I could see a bit into
Speaker 1: backstage and I could see a stage hand running on
Speaker 1: seeing Bobby wasn't doing what you were supposed to do
Speaker 1: running back and I imagine saying to Steve he hasn't hidden,
Speaker 1: help and Stela and to come back on and say,
Speaker 1: remember how I told you to hide, and he's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I forgot that bit.
Speaker 2: David's been in touch to say the intro scene had
Speaker 2: me in stitches and should be played in every theater. Yeah,
Speaker 2: totally agree.
Speaker 1: Definitely, Zach says, I laughed, I cried. The best show
Speaker 1: I've watched.
Speaker 2: Wow. Amy says I loved noticing all the little references
Speaker 2: in the scene with the two Burglars. I saw a
Speaker 2: hair on the stairs. Oh I didn't spot that, Okay, nice,
Speaker 2: and immediately gasped. I felt like I was in an episode.
Speaker 2: I also found the beginning after the theatre etiquette scene
Speaker 2: where the ushers held up the no masturbating sign a
Speaker 2: mild reference to Uncle Harvey from the Leak of Gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Yes could well be Yes and James says Stephen Reesa
Speaker 1: are at their best live. The show perfectly transfers to
Speaker 1: the stage. The screen for the second half didn't work
Speaker 1: on my first visit, so it was amazing to see
Speaker 1: not only how they quickly kept the show going, but
Speaker 1: also how different it was with the working screen.
Speaker 2: Interesting right back. I'm intrigued to know how it actually
Speaker 2: did work without the screen, like what they did do.
Speaker 2: And finally from Lottie, one of the best things I've
Speaker 2: ever seen. It felt like a magic show mixed with
Speaker 2: jaw dropping number nine.
Speaker 1: Thrill ah, amazing.
Speaker 2: Oh they were awesome guys.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I hope. I hope that was entertaining to
Speaker 1: listen to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope.
Speaker 1: So whether you managed to see the play or not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're back with the referees of ANKA Yeah, series
Speaker 2: five in a few weeks. Yeah, see you then, we
Speaker 2: shall see you then. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But for now, I think it's time to take a
Speaker 1: bow and bring the curtains down on number nine.
Speaker 2: But you never really leave the stage, do you.
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