Speaker 1: Get ready.
Speaker 2: August fourteen.
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, that what it is yet August fourteen, twenty
Speaker 3: twenty six, allegedly, according to that thing we call a calendar,
Speaker 3: and it's about sixteen minutes past the hour of eight
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Speaker 3: sitting here talking to my co host b Pete. And
Speaker 3: that's the way it is now. I did not want
Speaker 3: to cancel last night's show, but internet was not stable,
Speaker 3: and today internet was well stable. After I think four
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Speaker 3: crap again, because there's you know, four or five things
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Speaker 3: want all that stuff, and you know, sound from the device. Like, well,
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Speaker 3: now hear the phones, or he can hear the sounds.
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Speaker 3: So three one nine, five, two seven fives zero one six.
Speaker 3: What a weird week. And you know, I did something
Speaker 3: bad to myself earlier today too, before I got frozen
Speaker 3: on a computer. I almost froze with the weirdness of
Speaker 3: watching Trump speak again. You know, I've avoided him for
Speaker 3: a while, and now I watched him again. And today
Speaker 3: he was telling us all about how great he has
Speaker 3: made America because he solved the crime problem everywhere, because
Speaker 3: crime was way out of control. Don't listen to any
Speaker 3: of the statistics or anything, but crime was so far
Speaker 3: out of control before he came in the first time.
Speaker 3: And then it went even worse with the low Iq
Speaker 3: Biden over there, you know, letting things happen low IQ,
Speaker 3: I guess, so when you're in getting dementia, sinility, or
Speaker 3: whatever they call it nowadays. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 3: know if that's technically right. I don't care. But anyway,
Speaker 3: he was telling us all about what a great job
Speaker 3: Cash Bettel is doing, how the Justice Department is working
Speaker 3: it all out, and what is it operations summer heat
Speaker 3: all across America and places you don't even know about
Speaker 3: where they're cleaning up the crime, even if it's invisible
Speaker 3: to the naked eye. Crime is on the decline because
Speaker 3: of Donald Trump, and he was going on and on
Speaker 3: about it. I don't know what the point of the
Speaker 3: press conference actually was. That's at this time now because
Speaker 3: that's what I recall from it. Am I complaining?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: It is what it is. And I don't know how
Speaker 3: much longer we got to put up with this. I
Speaker 3: guess we'll find out soon. Twenty twenty eight's not far away, really,
Speaker 3: you know. We're in the last half of twenty six.
Speaker 3: Twenty seven will probably fly by, and I don't want
Speaker 3: to be alive to see twenty eight, but I probably
Speaker 3: will be, and many of you will as well. And
Speaker 3: if not, none of what I'm saying to you matters anyway.
Speaker 3: So all that aside, beat Pete, How are you doing
Speaker 3: this week?
Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty good. I'm just tired.
Speaker 5: I've been splitting firewood for the past three days, trying
Speaker 5: to get it up before this rain sets back in
Speaker 5: and get it covered.
Speaker 1: You got to get it got.
Speaker 5: Out, so I use it this winner because I'm tired
Speaker 5: of paying duke power bills. But other than having to
Speaker 5: do that in ninety eight degree weather, it's, you know,
Speaker 5: just an average day.
Speaker 1: It's working the yard till it gets too hot and
Speaker 1: come inside.
Speaker 5: Today we had the great Candace Owens Andrew Wilson debate online.
Speaker 3: That was a joke. Well, forgive forgive me, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: forgive me for being behind. But what is the debate
Speaker 3: that they had to hold between Candace and this guy
Speaker 3: whose name I've already forgotten. What was the great debate
Speaker 3: involving Candace Owens? What was the subject topic and what
Speaker 3: were their positions? Please?
Speaker 6: Yeah, some time ago, a couple of these podcasters were
Speaker 6: talking and one of them said, you know, I'll put
Speaker 6: fifty I'll put fifty thousand dollars up to get Candace
Speaker 6: to debate.
Speaker 1: This guy on my live stream.
Speaker 5: And somebody said, oh, I'll make it eighty, and then
Speaker 5: someone else said, I'll make it one hundred. And then
Speaker 5: Andrew Wilson, who's uh, he's got his own podcast, a
Speaker 5: program called The Crucible. He's the one that sits there
Speaker 5: debating the only fans girls who think they're tens. And yeah, anyway,
Speaker 5: but you know, he's just another podcast out there he's not.
Speaker 1: Just two thousands.
Speaker 3: Wait a second, now, he's not the guy who interviews
Speaker 3: the ugly girls who think they're pretty, is he? Or
Speaker 3: is he? Oh he's that guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's had uh, he's had some of them on.
Speaker 5: In fact, I remember the one show that sticks out
Speaker 5: of my mind. Is this rather a rotund? I think
Speaker 5: it was trans I'm not.
Speaker 3: Sure maybe, And they go, oh, well, men like men
Speaker 3: warned over. Yeah, and it's like men pay me, men
Speaker 3: pay me. I'm attend because men pay me to see me.
Speaker 3: And the dude's like, dude, you know, and he's a liberal,
Speaker 3: but he's telling him no.
Speaker 5: Okay, So that guy is back and forth, kept going on,
Speaker 5: and they got it. Finally Andrew Wilson says, you know, hell,
Speaker 5: I'll offer her three hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: So he put the challenge out.
Speaker 3: There three hundred grand. Wait a minute, wait, wait, okay,
Speaker 3: so other podcasters were putting a twenty fifty, which, by
Speaker 3: the way, this is a phenomena that kills me. With
Speaker 3: these guys who are well overfunded, they'll turn around and
Speaker 3: they'll make offers. They'll put up money, I'll put up money.
Speaker 3: I'll fly the guy out here. We'll get him together
Speaker 3: in a studio. No, no, no, no, no. Everybody from Stuttering John
Speaker 3: and people trying to put up like ten twenty grand
Speaker 3: for boxing matches, okay, which I don't know who would
Speaker 3: want to see Stuttering John fight anybody? Now he's in
Speaker 3: his sixties. But I mean, this guy will put up
Speaker 3: ten grand, we'll put up twenty grand. We'll make it
Speaker 3: a pay per view. You know. But these guys do
Speaker 3: this all the time. And the hilarious thing is most
Speaker 3: of them are allegedly living off of your donations, and
Speaker 3: you know, these lame sponsorships. And meanwhile, somehow they got
Speaker 3: twenty thirty fifty and this guy three hundred grand, who
Speaker 3: I vaguely know for telling ugly women. I know, guys
Speaker 3: pay you to be with you, but you're not pretty.
Speaker 3: Basically is the premise of the show I keep seeing.
Speaker 3: Does he think, wait a minute, is somebody accusing Candice
Speaker 3: of being trans? I don't think so. She definitely does
Speaker 3: not to me, Yeah, go ahead, sorry.
Speaker 5: No, it's just went back and forth. And finally they
Speaker 5: got up to the three hundred fowl and he made
Speaker 5: the challenge to canvas, and at first she said, I
Speaker 5: won't do it under five hundred thoul So he says, well,
Speaker 5: then why don't we just make it a million and
Speaker 5: we split it five hundred thoul piece.
Speaker 1: She backed out of that.
Speaker 5: Finally they wow, he didn't goad her, but her ego
Speaker 5: was getting bruised in her turning it down, and people
Speaker 5: started wondering, well, why is she turning it down if
Speaker 5: she's so sure about what she says?
Speaker 3: Well, okay, so she accepted it. What was the debate over?
Speaker 5: Though the subject day was over, Andrew Wilson has made
Speaker 5: the comment to him the evidence for Todder Robinson shooting
Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk to him was overwhelming based on the DNA,
Speaker 5: the text messages, the way he turned himself in the
Speaker 5: fact that says rifle okay.
Speaker 3: He buys the official story.
Speaker 5: In other words, well, he said during the debate that
Speaker 5: based on the you know, the official story of what
Speaker 5: he's seen, he's seventy five to eighty percent sure that
Speaker 5: Robinson did okay.
Speaker 3: So nobody's perfect, but the official story's basically right. Is
Speaker 3: the idea right?
Speaker 5: But see the way Canvas goed him into it was saying, well,
Speaker 5: you say it's overwhelming, so real need to defend the
Speaker 5: fact that all this evidence the state has is overwhelming.
Speaker 5: He says, well, it's overwhelming to me anyway. It took
Speaker 5: him four days to work out the details.
Speaker 3: Well, you have at first, you need time to promote
Speaker 3: the event so people will pay to watch it. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean.
Speaker 5: But they were going back and forth on x trying
Speaker 5: to work out the details.
Speaker 1: At first, Canvas.
Speaker 5: Says, no, I'm only going to debate your positions on
Speaker 5: the state having overwhelming evidence.
Speaker 1: And he goes, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're going to
Speaker 1: debate your claims as well.
Speaker 5: She didn't want to do that at first. She's trying
Speaker 5: to play word games, right. So they work this all
Speaker 5: out and it was today at eleven o'clock.
Speaker 3: Okay, now, but before wait, wait, wait, before you go
Speaker 3: into it, I just want to point out to everybody
Speaker 3: listening and you too, exactly what it is the WWF
Speaker 3: taught us as a society. It's right there. It's in
Speaker 3: all this stuff now, not just I mean, it's in
Speaker 3: our politics. It's in this stuff. It's in every form
Speaker 3: of media now. It has infected everything. Think about it
Speaker 3: back in the old days with the WWF. Right, all right,
Speaker 3: you interfered in my match there, Ricky Steamboat, I'm coming
Speaker 3: after you, okay, Oh Coogan, you know. And now we're
Speaker 3: going to meet somewhere. We'll meet in Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 3: Oh that was an inconclusive draw. I'm gonna slam Andre
Speaker 3: the Giant on the Intrepid. Okay, I did it. Hey,
Speaker 3: nobody saw it too. So now we're gonna have to
Speaker 3: do it again. We'll meet in the steel cage this
Speaker 3: time to decide it all. And you go back and
Speaker 3: worth in public. Meanwhile, this is already pre planned. And
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, that's what this smacks up to
Speaker 3: me is two people that said, hey, let's make some money,
Speaker 3: and here's how we're going to do it, and you
Speaker 3: create you don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think in this this case it was more. It
Speaker 1: wasn't let's get together and make money.
Speaker 5: I think it's more of that two people really can't
Speaker 5: stand each other and wanted to take a chance to
Speaker 5: deflate the other one's ego. Because Candice has been spouting
Speaker 5: this stuff every day for eleven months. Okay, but she's
Speaker 5: and she went on Sean Ryan's show not long ago,
Speaker 5: maybe a month two months ago. She went on Seawan
Speaker 5: Ryan and basically it was this softball shit. He never
Speaker 5: pressed her on anything that she's claimed. Of course, well
Speaker 5: today they start to debate and the over I guess
Speaker 5: the best way to sum it up. Andrew explained his positions.
Speaker 5: He explained based on what evidence that we know was
Speaker 5: presented from the preliminary hearing, and there you know the
Speaker 5: the level they have to hit is probable costs. And
Speaker 5: in the State of you taught you can use reliable
Speaker 5: hearsay evidence in the purpose of probable cause.
Speaker 1: Now that's different when you get the trial.
Speaker 5: When you get the trial, you have to you hearsay
Speaker 5: evidence is going to be limited based on how the
Speaker 5: judge perceives it.
Speaker 1: Well, and there are cases, well, no, there are.
Speaker 5: There are instances in a trial where you can use
Speaker 5: hearsay evidence.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what I was going to say. You can
Speaker 3: use it, but it's not meant to be there to
Speaker 3: decide any issue in particular.
Speaker 1: Right, you can't.
Speaker 5: Convict somebody on the hearsay, but you can use hearsay
Speaker 5: in in coordination with other evidence.
Speaker 3: It can be part of supporting evidence where it's like
Speaker 3: yeah I heard about this, Yeah I heard about this,
Speaker 3: Yeah I heard about it. Okay, now you're honor, I'm
Speaker 3: going to show you the videotape of the thing they
Speaker 3: heard about. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: But one of the things, one of the things that
Speaker 5: came out today was Canvas had made the comment, you
Speaker 5: know for the defense is the burden of proof is
Speaker 5: on the prosecution when it comes to the preliminary hearing
Speaker 5: and the defense they don't have to offer anything. And
Speaker 5: you know if he made the comment, he says, if
Speaker 5: you have exculpatory evidence or an ironclad alibi, because the
Speaker 5: defense was allowed to cross examine and submit their own
Speaker 5: evidence during the preliminary hearing, he made the comment, he said,
Speaker 5: you know, if you've got exculpatory evidence or something to
Speaker 5: prove that your guy's not guilty, that when.
Speaker 1: You bring it up.
Speaker 5: The difference between this preliminary hearing and a grand jury.
Speaker 5: They could have sat a grand jury, presented the evidence
Speaker 5: in private. Nobody the defense side would not even have.
Speaker 1: Be allowed a lawyer.
Speaker 5: And you know how.
Speaker 1: Grand jury works.
Speaker 5: Okay, well, this is a preliminary hearing in place of
Speaker 5: a grand jury.
Speaker 1: In the preliminary hearing.
Speaker 5: The prosecution submits their evidence to show probable cause and
Speaker 5: the judge decides whether he gets bound over for trial.
Speaker 3: Okay, Now here's the thing about that whole thing about
Speaker 3: here's where you should bring up exculpatory evidence. Sometimes there
Speaker 3: is a strategic you know, consideration, right true where true? Okay,
Speaker 3: let's just say I've got some evidence that that is
Speaker 3: exculpatory would prove against their point, the prosecution, but I
Speaker 3: don't want to bring it up because it's going to
Speaker 3: make my client look worse. It's like, you know, no,
Speaker 3: he couldn't committed the murder because he was actually committing
Speaker 3: a rape at exactly that time. You don't want to
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 5: I mean, the proof of that is in the defense
Speaker 5: of what they actually did. When the preliminary hearing started,
Speaker 5: they stood up from the beginning and said, you know
Speaker 5: that when it comes to because they were questioning whether
Speaker 5: to publish things in the court room on the screens
Speaker 5: for everybody to see, or publish it on a public feed.
Speaker 5: They had two news representatives there to capture the screen
Speaker 5: on things that could be published to the public. Okay,
Speaker 5: so they have every bit of evidence that goes in
Speaker 5: has to mean three things. Okay, are we going to
Speaker 5: take this in evidence? Are we going to take it
Speaker 5: in evidence and show it in the courtroom, like personal stuff,
Speaker 5: you know, a medical.
Speaker 1: File, the coroner's report, all these things that you know,
Speaker 1: and in time time.
Speaker 5: There was a standing objection from the defense on all
Speaker 5: of it because they said that it could tank the
Speaker 5: jury pool and it would affect their client's ability to
Speaker 5: have a fair trial. Okay, okay, Well that's the problem
Speaker 5: with doing something in a grand jury versus doing something
Speaker 5: in a preliminary hearing. The judge decided to allow cameras
Speaker 5: in the courtroom, so they're going to capture this stuff,
Speaker 5: so they have to make separate decisions where if it
Speaker 5: was in a grand jury, it would have been secret,
Speaker 5: there wouldn't have been any TV, and they had already
Speaker 5: been bound over for trial, you know, like they say,
Speaker 5: you can indict a ham sandwich. Okay, they went this route.
Speaker 5: So in the preliminary hearing, they presented their evidence, they
Speaker 5: submitted it. The defense objected to all of it. They
Speaker 5: had a standing objection. They didn't like this, they didn't
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: Well, chances made a comment, well, the you know, the
Speaker 5: defense can't do that.
Speaker 1: And this judge specifically when he set up.
Speaker 5: The guidelines for this preliminary hearing stated that the defense
Speaker 5: was allowed to submit conflicting evidence, evidence that would support
Speaker 5: their side. Well, the defense didn't submit any damn thing.
Speaker 5: They did some cross examination of a couple of FBI
Speaker 5: technicians and a couple of the law enforcement and that's
Speaker 5: about it. So the debate, Andrew wanted to get Candace
Speaker 5: on the record for what evidence she had for all
Speaker 5: these claims. I mean, she has accused Erica Kirk, TPUSA,
Speaker 5: the Nation of France, the Nation of Israel, supporters, the
Speaker 5: US military all to be involved in the murder of
Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk. She has come out and said it, she
Speaker 5: has implied it. So that's what basically Andrew wanted to
Speaker 5: catch her on.
Speaker 1: He was not he was not. He didn't know the
Speaker 1: case as well as he should have. He should have
Speaker 1: done a little more preparation.
Speaker 5: But when it came to calling Canvas out, she would
Speaker 5: call her out and he would say, Okay, you made
Speaker 5: this statement, what evidence do you have for that? Well,
Speaker 5: I felt like because this didn't didn't seem right, and
Speaker 5: blah blah blah and blah blah blah. He goes, but
Speaker 5: what positive evidence do you.
Speaker 3: Have, what do you have to support it?
Speaker 1: Not? You had nothing?
Speaker 5: She had nothing, and if she did have anything, it
Speaker 5: was a source that she couldn't reveal. So it was
Speaker 5: trust me, bro, and he called her out on him
Speaker 5: basically clean the damn floor with hers. She had no
Speaker 5: evidence for it. She's been I mean, this has been
Speaker 5: an everyday thing for her for eleven months and out
Speaker 5: of all of Lady of stuff, no evidence whatsoever.
Speaker 3: No, And that showed that that's the point she that
Speaker 3: is precisely on brand for her though exactly, you know,
Speaker 3: for eleven months she's been doing it, and if you
Speaker 3: listen to her listeners, they'll tell you she's done the
Speaker 3: best job. She's shown everything bok. And when it comes
Speaker 3: down to it, it's like, okay, here's your assertion, right,
Speaker 3: all right, what do you have to support it? Nothing?
Speaker 3: That's what the bottom line is. It's just her answer
Speaker 3: to her contrarian answer.
Speaker 5: She got her to admit, and he called her out
Speaker 5: and she was getting snippy the whole.
Speaker 1: Time and trying to.
Speaker 5: You know, be a little bad ass and make these
Speaker 5: snod comments, and he kept this cool, kept going forward.
Speaker 1: He finally got her to admit when it came to
Speaker 1: Erica Kirk.
Speaker 5: He says, how do you make the lead? Well, she
Speaker 5: said this, and she said that, she said, this goes well.
Speaker 5: He said, but wait a minute, what evidence do you
Speaker 5: have that she was involved in this?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: And she finally had to admit, well, it's it just
Speaker 5: hit me wrong.
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was right. And it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: you've been doing this for eleven freaking months.
Speaker 5: People have been paying you vast amounts of money for
Speaker 5: eleven fucking months.
Speaker 1: And to show you how she operates.
Speaker 5: Remember she made to claim a while back that Bridget
Speaker 5: Macrone was a guy. It was a trainning. Okay, she's
Speaker 5: got that court case coming up. In fact, they had
Speaker 5: a hearing on it just what end the last month,
Speaker 5: and she was trying it.
Speaker 1: Was a hearing for dismissal Cannice.
Speaker 5: You know, the whole time was oh, I can't wait
Speaker 5: for discovery, then I can get emails and folk messages and.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: Well, when she gets hit with the court case, she
Speaker 5: turns around and files the damn motion to dismiss.
Speaker 1: She's claiming that it's in the wrong jurisdiction.
Speaker 5: She's being sued in Delaware, where her company, all of
Speaker 5: her companies.
Speaker 1: Are set up.
Speaker 5: So she said, no, they should have suited me in Tennessee.
Speaker 5: But yet, well was it a year ago? USA today
Speaker 5: said something? She went to sue them, and she sue
Speaker 5: them in Delaware because that's where her businesses were listed.
Speaker 1: Right, this second one has come up.
Speaker 5: She's got a lawsuit with one of the members I
Speaker 5: think he's the head of the security for Charlie Kirk
Speaker 5: over some of these accusations she's made. She got served
Speaker 5: on that lawsuit. She's filed a motion to dismiss Does
Speaker 5: he wanted to get to discovery? So she makes big claims, oh,
Speaker 5: I can't wait to go to court and blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: In a minute, she gets served with something, she puts
Speaker 5: her lawyers to work to get something dismissed, when that's
Speaker 5: been her game plan so far. We're still waiting to
Speaker 5: hear the ruling on whether the dismissal will happen or
Speaker 5: not from the Macron case in Delaware.
Speaker 1: I'm sure waiting to hear on that.
Speaker 3: She now doesn't this doesn't this remind you of affets
Speaker 3: her upgrade?
Speaker 5: Well Man today when I predicted this morning, I made
Speaker 5: a post I said, this is the great debate going
Speaker 5: to turn into the Great debacle h.
Speaker 1: FETs Her era of filibustering or the great yawn.
Speaker 5: And she did a lot of fun. I mean she
Speaker 5: put she could teach FETs Her a couple of things. Really,
Speaker 5: it's like, basically, Andrew, she made the comment, well, this
Speaker 5: is why I think Erica is complicit. Andrew Wilson comes
Speaker 5: back complicit in what yeah, and being complicit?
Speaker 1: She would not. He finally nailed her on two things.
Speaker 5: One Erica Kirk She's got no evidence whatsoever, she just
Speaker 5: feels like accusing her of being involved. And two the
Speaker 5: claim that Israel and France were involved in Charlie Kirk's murder.
Speaker 5: He says she's got a clip of her saying that she,
Speaker 5: without a doubt, is convinced, beyond all doubt that they
Speaker 5: were involved. And when he pressed her on it, she
Speaker 5: had to admit she didn't have a damn thing to
Speaker 5: put it.
Speaker 3: See, it's like I told you with that whole thing
Speaker 3: with the text that came out where people just said
Speaker 3: that's it, that's proof right there, And I'm like, proof
Speaker 3: of what you know, a proof of that he was
Speaker 3: maybe going to step away from supporting the Israel lobby
Speaker 3: and was considering that he was going to lose a
Speaker 3: two million dollars year.
Speaker 1: Wilson.
Speaker 5: That reminds me Andrew Wilson pulled a slick one today.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: It was towards the end of.
Speaker 5: The three and a half hours and he says, I
Speaker 5: have a newly released text message from Charlie Oh Boy
Speaker 5: to someone else, and it said security is there for
Speaker 5: one Security is.
Speaker 1: There for one person. I feel like the Left is
Speaker 1: going to kill me. Now.
Speaker 5: See, up until this time, it's always been well, he
Speaker 5: was stepping away from Israel and those text messages where
Speaker 5: he was mad because they were pressuring him for this
Speaker 5: and that, and he was getting dissatisfied with That's all
Speaker 5: we've heard for eleven months.
Speaker 1: Today we get a text message that says the Left
Speaker 1: is he feels like the Left is after him. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's the footing part.
Speaker 5: Candace looked at him and says, well, you show us
Speaker 5: the text. He says, I'll show it on my show,
Speaker 5: and she goes, you mean you're gonna read it on
Speaker 5: my show, but you're not going to show it to us.
Speaker 5: He goes, no, I'll release it on my show. She's
Speaker 5: just gonna ask why, he says, because you've got to
Speaker 5: drip it out little by little and keep the grift going,
Speaker 5: and starts.
Speaker 1: Laughing at her to look on her face. It was priceless.
Speaker 3: That is nice, right there, you got he just threw
Speaker 3: it right.
Speaker 1: Up and do well, you gotta let it out by drips.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Good, you know, but this kills me because again,
Speaker 3: all right, let's just let's just face value and say,
Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk thought the left was going to kill him.
Speaker 3: That's great. Let's just say that's real. I'm not even
Speaker 3: saying it is, but let's just say it is for
Speaker 3: the sake of the discussion.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know what's funny about that. It doesn't change the facts.
Speaker 3: He could have been paranoid about anybody. His ex girlfriend
Speaker 3: prol we know, and he could have been worried about her.
Speaker 3: And meanwhile, it is a political operative that killed him,
Speaker 3: or maybe it is in Israeli, hey, whatever, But his
Speaker 3: notion of what he thought was going on while he
Speaker 3: was still alive, unless he had something that was you know,
Speaker 3: you could tie directly to a person where he says, listen,
Speaker 3: this person specifically was going after me and I know
Speaker 3: who it is, and he names the person who ends
Speaker 3: up shooting him, then you could say he must have
Speaker 3: known something, you know what I mean, because it happened.
Speaker 3: But oh yeah good.
Speaker 5: You know, between between the time that they announced that
Speaker 5: he was going to start this back to college tour and.
Speaker 1: But and announced that they were going to be at UVU.
Speaker 5: Between then and the date, there were some discord chats
Speaker 5: where people were talking about taking him out, So he
Speaker 5: could have had Somebody could have told him, hey, just
Speaker 5: to let you know, we've seen this shit online. He
Speaker 5: could have been warned by the FBI or someone, or
Speaker 5: some or his security agents found it online. Somebody could
Speaker 5: have told him, you know that he can't connections. He
Speaker 5: was friends with Trump, you know, he's friends with the Cushners.
Speaker 5: He was he dealt in circles that all of these
Speaker 5: people were a part of because he I mean, Charlie Cook,
Speaker 5: say what you want. Charlie Kirk didn't go to college
Speaker 5: and started probably one of the largest student organizations that
Speaker 5: would compare within any sorority, any fraternity. The TPUSA was
Speaker 5: big and he started it when he was what eighteen
Speaker 5: years old, nineteen years old? Eighteen or nineteen and built
Speaker 5: it up to what it is today. I mean, there's
Speaker 5: a multi million dollar organization. And he did it basically
Speaker 5: by busting his ass, putting in the time, going on tours,
Speaker 5: talking to people, and he built.
Speaker 1: I mean, he built an impressive organization, right, you know.
Speaker 1: So he could have been.
Speaker 5: Warned by somebody up the line with connections.
Speaker 1: Hey we've got into this. Just keep you know, watching back,
Speaker 1: double your security.
Speaker 3: You know. We don't know a couple of funny points
Speaker 3: here though, I guarantee you there's a discord conversation somewhere
Speaker 3: about killing you p Pete, you know, and I know
Speaker 3: there's one out there about me. A discord is a
Speaker 3: weird land man, and especially when it involves gamer for
Speaker 3: all we know. Actually, it could have been a gamer
Speaker 3: friend to his that happened to be in the discord,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Sometimes their friends will hang
Speaker 3: out in your little group chats, you know, the people
Speaker 3: that you hate. Yeah, it happens. It could have been anything,
Speaker 3: and unless somebody can demonstrate that, we don't know, you know,
Speaker 3: or he said it publicly somewhere, and even then just
Speaker 3: because he said it doesn't mean that's the way it happened.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, there's a lot of options here, and
Speaker 3: you know what that that brings me to one of
Speaker 3: the other stories today. Did you catch up on Luigi Mangioni.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got the plea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got the plea. Really interesting open plea though,
Speaker 3: where he just laid it out.
Speaker 1: But I think.
Speaker 5: I heard that he did it because he's postering to
Speaker 5: try to get state charges drop. Okay, if he gets
Speaker 5: a federal convictions or New York has got this funky
Speaker 5: double jeopardy law.
Speaker 1: Did you get for something in federal court?
Speaker 6: They can't get after you in state court, but if
Speaker 6: you don't, if they don't go after you in federal court,
Speaker 6: then they can go after you in state court.
Speaker 1: It's weird.
Speaker 5: So by him taking the plea agreement, there's possibility that
Speaker 5: it could end the state going after and he just
Speaker 5: did the federal time. Okay, it's weird, but yeah, that's
Speaker 5: surprised me this morning when they say no, no, it was
Speaker 5: late last night.
Speaker 1: I saw something that he was going to cop.
Speaker 5: A plea, which don't be surprised. On September first or
Speaker 5: around the first of September, they're going to have all arguments.
Speaker 1: On the preliminary hearing to bind it.
Speaker 5: Buyd Taylor Robinson over, Tyler Robinson.
Speaker 1: Over for court.
Speaker 5: Okay, so they're gonna each get I think they each
Speaker 5: get two hours, and then the judge is gonna render
Speaker 5: a decision.
Speaker 1: If he gets bound.
Speaker 5: Over for trial, don't be surprised to see him take
Speaker 5: a plead to get the death penalty off table. Because
Speaker 5: you talk a death penalty state, they're going after the
Speaker 5: death penalty. That's why they put they put a conditional rider.
Speaker 1: What he's charged with, the aggravated murder, which is.
Speaker 5: A higher level of murder based on an aggregate evading
Speaker 5: factor that he was targeted because of his political positions.
Speaker 1: So you know, they haven't even offered a lesser charge
Speaker 1: of murder.
Speaker 5: You know, in some states they're charge it with first
Speaker 5: degree or you can find.
Speaker 1: Them guilty of second degree.
Speaker 5: And you know first degree is a death penalty, second
Speaker 5: degree is life in prison. So you can you get
Speaker 5: a choice, and that'll come at the end of the
Speaker 5: trial when the judge. You know, if the state sees
Speaker 5: that they're losing their case, they could file an adjustment
Speaker 5: of charges and lower the charge to second degree murder.
Speaker 3: You're right, but that's the state making account related decision
Speaker 3: usually where it's like, we probably don't have enough evidence
Speaker 3: to get the jury to you know, because that's the
Speaker 3: thing they always got to consider, right, they're the ones
Speaker 3: making the decision to stick the needle in the arm
Speaker 3: or to you know, guess somebody or whatever. So there's
Speaker 3: always that consideration towards the end, right where it's like, well,
Speaker 3: you know, do I want to be alive or not?
Speaker 3: And you know, listen, and we can get rid of
Speaker 3: the hole you're gonna kill me eventually in prison at
Speaker 3: least I can survive, possibly get you know, paroled at
Speaker 3: some point, et cetera. But you know, even with the
Speaker 3: delays that happened with the death penalty case, sometimes that's
Speaker 3: exactly why it's done. And it's got nothing to do
Speaker 3: with the big cases being you know, more so like
Speaker 3: that than smaller ones, et cetera. So I mean, it's
Speaker 3: just one of those things that happens. You know, listen,
Speaker 3: if you will plead guilty, will you know, give you
Speaker 3: even manslaughter sometimes versus the first degree murder charge.
Speaker 1: Oh well, that happened with some that happened just two days.
Speaker 5: Ago with the only modeled down in Florida that stabbed
Speaker 5: her boyfriend and claimed self defense. They offered her a plea,
Speaker 5: and she's been in jail four years on this. They're
Speaker 5: coming up on the trial. They offered her a plea,
Speaker 5: she took it, she got charged. She took a plea
Speaker 5: from manslaughter, and she only has to do six years.
Speaker 5: So she's already been in jail four she does another two,
Speaker 5: she's going to be out under five years of see
Speaker 5: the five or seven years of monitoring probation.
Speaker 1: So she helped to kill somebody and do six years.
Speaker 1: That's a deal. Not bad, It's a hell of a deal,
Speaker 1: prisially in a death penalty state.
Speaker 5: Right. So the end result today was it was shown
Speaker 5: that Candice has gotten nothing and she's been pulling this
Speaker 5: grift for eleven months. I think you're going to start
Speaker 5: seeing some numbers show up differently in her viewership and
Speaker 5: sponsors ships. Maybe you know, no, I think I think
Speaker 5: today a lot of people had their bubble burst.
Speaker 1: They thought she was going to go in their big
Speaker 1: guns blazing, and basically she's sitting in.
Speaker 5: A chair pulling the FETs her where she tries to
Speaker 5: double talk her way out of something to not answer. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's like you know, it's like I said, Oh, Erica
Speaker 5: was complicit and Wilson complicit in one and being complicit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was she complicit in?
Speaker 5: Well, you know kind of because of the lies and
Speaker 5: every Okay.
Speaker 1: What was she What are you accusing her of being
Speaker 1: complicit in? To cover up?
Speaker 5: You know, she's basically taken Charlie. She made a post
Speaker 5: after the debate today. Oh it felt like Charlie was
Speaker 5: with us, and I thought, you just made that motherfucker
Speaker 5: complicit in his own murder.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, you know it's crazy, but we'll see what
Speaker 1: the fallout is. See.
Speaker 5: And that's the thing about podcast to stand. Now, you've
Speaker 5: got a group Seawan Ryan, Candas, Owns, Ian Carroll, Stu Peters,
Speaker 5: Baron Coleman, Tucker Carlson, all these people with these podcasts
Speaker 5: are just going on each other's podcasts except for Canvas.
Speaker 5: Like I said, she did that sweetheart deal with Sean
Speaker 5: Ryan two months ago and she's been riding the glory
Speaker 5: off of it. And so now she finally got in
Speaker 5: a debate with somebody that was going.
Speaker 1: To hold her accountable for an answer, or.
Speaker 5: At least do everything they could to try to get
Speaker 5: a straight answer out of her. Like I said, she
Speaker 5: did a good fencer. She didn't get as loud as
Speaker 5: the boy said. Well, a couple of times she wanted
Speaker 5: to get excited, but you know, and she tried filibustering
Speaker 5: him and he would let her talk.
Speaker 1: In fact, she would she would say, well, what I
Speaker 1: can't talk.
Speaker 5: He goes, you can say anything you want. That's what
Speaker 5: we're trying to do, is to get you to talk,
Speaker 5: but you won't tell any damn thing, right crazy, So
Speaker 5: you know people are gonna have to find new excitement
Speaker 5: for next week. But you're right about the money three
Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars to her. Wilson only got whatever he
Speaker 5: could sell and advertise it. Patrick Bett David was the moderator.
Speaker 5: Originally they were.
Speaker 1: Going to go with Michael Moris, but he backed out
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 5: He says, you know, I appreciate you mentioning me, but
Speaker 5: I'm I'm just going to stay out of it. Come
Speaker 5: to find Oh, you know, he's one of Candae Owens's
Speaker 5: kid's godfather when they work together at Daily Wire, so
Speaker 5: you know he was people could.
Speaker 1: Ye, it's what you would have heard immediately was well
Speaker 1: he's he's godfather the one case these kids. He's not
Speaker 1: going to go against her, of course, and he hasn't
Speaker 1: really called her out.
Speaker 5: So now we're going to go back to the same
Speaker 5: old Megan Kelly doesn't like Ben Shapiro, doesn't like Tucker Carlson,
Speaker 5: who doesn't like Candae Owns, who doesn't like Nick flint Is,
Speaker 5: who doesn't like kick a name.
Speaker 3: Well except down the list, Yeah, except Ben Shapiro. Every
Speaker 3: once in a while pops up on my podcast feed,
Speaker 3: not as a podcast, but as a YouTube commercial, which
Speaker 3: I that makes me so crazy, Like literally, I'll get
Speaker 3: an ad break, you know, and it's for whatever, Burger
Speaker 3: king all right, you know, hey, buy these new socks,
Speaker 3: whatever drug companies, car accidents, you know whatever, all right,
Speaker 3: the standard fare. But every once in a while, if
Speaker 3: I let my my podcast feed just run away with
Speaker 3: itself for a little while, I will get an entire
Speaker 3: Ben Shapiro freaking podcast, Like seriously, like what the hell man?
Speaker 5: Well now that's see, that's an argument that's going right
Speaker 5: now between Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiro. Okay, Tucker Carlson
Speaker 5: is saying Ben Shapiro was he got where he was
Speaker 5: because of Israel. And you know, you look at Ben
Speaker 5: Shapiro's resume and he didn't get where he's at because
Speaker 5: of Israel.
Speaker 1: A guy got where.
Speaker 5: He's at because at sixteen he went to college and
Speaker 5: two years later he graduates and goes to law school.
Speaker 5: By the time he was nineteen years old, I think
Speaker 5: he had what three published books. He had a syndicated column.
Speaker 5: The guy plays violin like he's been doing it his
Speaker 5: whole life. I mean, the guy's talented and he's smart,
Speaker 5: and he busted his ass to get where he's at.
Speaker 5: And for him to look at someone like Cannice Owens,
Speaker 5: who's been drifting since high school to get where she is,
Speaker 5: you know, but Tucker's was you know, Israel made Ben
Speaker 5: Shapiro and it's like, you know that guy graduated from
Speaker 5: Harvard Law and you had to get Hunter Biden to
Speaker 5: write a recommendation letter for your kid to get into
Speaker 5: Georgetown and that wasn't good enough.
Speaker 1: He had to go to Uva because he couldn't make it.
Speaker 5: You know, this trust fund baby making that's what kiss
Speaker 5: me about Tucker Carls and nobody, nobody ever keeps in
Speaker 5: mind this guy was a trust fund baby bull with
Speaker 5: a silver spoon in his mouth.
Speaker 1: He never had to work.
Speaker 3: I brought it. I bring it up. Nobody likes it,
Speaker 3: but I bring it up, especially when he became like
Speaker 3: the new hero the alternative media for a while.
Speaker 1: Exactly what about the elite motherfucker?
Speaker 3: He is elite? Exactly what.
Speaker 1: You can't get more elite than Tucker carls Now And
Speaker 1: you take.
Speaker 3: A look at his resume just for a minute. The
Speaker 3: guy has worked for every major media outlet possible, and
Speaker 3: not just worked for them, but automatically got jobs at
Speaker 3: the forefront of those as a talking head, as an
Speaker 3: on air personality, well paid every single time. But he
Speaker 3: came out of you know, believe me, people came out
Speaker 3: of better places than him and didn't get a shot
Speaker 3: at the camera. Yet this guy's on every single kind
Speaker 3: of And forget about his political affiliation too, because it's irrelevant. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he was on Fox News a long time, true, but
Speaker 3: he was also on MSNBC. He was also being paid
Speaker 3: by CNN. He was also you.
Speaker 5: Know when he first came out, wasn't he working with
Speaker 5: Marianna What it was Marianna Goldberg, the one who was
Speaker 5: pushing the Monica Lewinsky bit. This is back during this
Speaker 5: both high days, I think so. But Lucian Goldberg, that's
Speaker 5: her name.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that sounds right.
Speaker 1: I think he worked for her for a short time too.
Speaker 1: Was connected. Oh crap, what is that left wing.
Speaker 3: Blog?
Speaker 1: Oh? Fuck, I can't think of the name of It's
Speaker 1: Arianna Huffington. Huffington Post, A good post.
Speaker 3: Yeah, didn't he.
Speaker 1: Do some work there too?
Speaker 3: You know, I want to say that he wrote for
Speaker 3: several of the online publications, but I was just talking
Speaker 3: about his TV credits, Okay, But but he worked for
Speaker 3: lots of publications. In other words, this guy got a
Speaker 3: top tier job straight out of nowhere and never looked
Speaker 3: back until he went independent, to be honest with.
Speaker 5: You, and he's another one of those that flips a coin.
Speaker 5: He was a diehard liberal, he's been liberal, but he
Speaker 5: pushes this conservative aspect that's a total farce, right, you know,
Speaker 5: I don't think I don't think he's voted for a
Speaker 5: fucking Republican since he's been able to vote.
Speaker 1: Do you mean he turned nineteen? I think when Reagan
Speaker 1: was running. When was it. Anyway, the guy's a flaming liberal.
Speaker 5: This whole conservative crap that he put on when he
Speaker 5: was in Fox was just all bullshit.
Speaker 1: He's been buddy buddy.
Speaker 5: With Hunter Biden his whole life, right, well, not his
Speaker 5: whole life since he was in Washington, d C. Okay,
Speaker 5: you know, come to find out him. And now he
Speaker 5: just had a Hunter on a couple of days ago
Speaker 5: on his podcast, No kidding, and we're finding out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've known each other the whole time.
Speaker 5: Like I said, Hunter Biden wrote a recommendation letter for
Speaker 5: Tuck Across the son to get into a college he
Speaker 5: couldn't get into.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 5: Now when you got to go when you got to
Speaker 5: go to and admitted crack smoking, horror mongering, questionable, aged
Speaker 5: womanizer to get a reference letter for your son.
Speaker 1: I mean, think about that.
Speaker 3: That's the way it works, you know, uh man, you
Speaker 3: know for those that it works for, it works rather
Speaker 3: well for, doesn't it So, And that's the thing he's
Speaker 3: always been. But he comes in on top of every
Speaker 3: single media out that he works for. Oh he does, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, so he's never had the well I was
Speaker 3: for a little while doing this you know, crap job
Speaker 3: with the company that produces this now or No, none
Speaker 3: of that is true about him, not a single thing
Speaker 3: like you said you were.
Speaker 5: Still he left Fox News and started out on his
Speaker 5: own with this podcast.
Speaker 1: He's got going on.
Speaker 3: Right that we.
Speaker 5: Found out as his dad was Cia. You know, Oh
Speaker 5: I didn't know my dad was Cia Attil after he
Speaker 5: had died.
Speaker 1: Bullshit, bullshit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I know, I get it. But my
Speaker 3: whole point about Tucker Carlson is all these people, Look,
Speaker 3: he's telling the truth. He's fighting the elites. It always
Speaker 3: cracks me up. Who's fighting the elites?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all elites.
Speaker 3: They're all elites. Yeah. It's like, so you're telling me
Speaker 3: they just fight among their own team all the time,
Speaker 3: because that's all I see here. You know who who
Speaker 3: among those that were supposedly fighting the elites in the
Speaker 3: past few years actually did battle with them? You know
Speaker 3: what I mean?
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly.
Speaker 5: And you know it's like expecting a politician not to
Speaker 5: give himself a pay raise.
Speaker 3: Right, and you know the guy is in on it,
Speaker 3: like with them, He's part of them, not just you know,
Speaker 3: an observer close to he's got friends. No, he's in
Speaker 3: on it.
Speaker 5: That's like I was talking with somebody the other day
Speaker 5: over Obamacare when it passed, and it was like, well,
Speaker 5: you know, the Republicans have been against and I said no,
Speaker 5: the Republicans the whole time were telling you where they
Speaker 5: were against it. Here's what happened when it got passed
Speaker 5: and signed into law. Immediately Congress, not the Democrats, all
Speaker 5: of Congress sat down and started writing the rules. And
Speaker 5: why did they do that because at the same time
Speaker 5: they were all buying insurance stocks and big med stocks
Speaker 5: and big pharm of stocks, anything connected even tangentially to Obamacare.
Speaker 5: You go back and look at the history of the
Speaker 5: market and you watch it. During that time, every damn
Speaker 5: politician in Washington was making.
Speaker 1: Money off the deal. So then for the next fifteen years.
Speaker 5: The Republicans are, oh, we need to repeal and replace. Okay,
Speaker 5: replace it with what Well, well I've got to that.
Speaker 1: Point yet, but we need to repeal.
Speaker 5: In the play and every opportunity they had to vote
Speaker 5: it down. What did John McCain do before he got
Speaker 5: finally out of service. He's the one that passed the
Speaker 5: deciding vote to keep it. When the Republicans had the
Speaker 5: damn House and the ability to get rid of it,
Speaker 5: John McCain comes in and does his little romanesque thing
Speaker 5: thumbs up or thumbs down when he walks into the chamber.
Speaker 5: His motherfucker's yep, a bunch of It's all a big grift. Well,
Speaker 5: I mean it's if everything is becoming a grift even soon.
Speaker 1: Podcasting, yeah, is a grift.
Speaker 3: The way these guys do it, Yeah, exactly. And that's
Speaker 3: and that's the thing that always kills me about these
Speaker 3: guys offering these huge amounts of money to get you know,
Speaker 3: two people together, Like I said, whether it's in a
Speaker 3: boxing ring or debate or you know, come on and
Speaker 3: face this person, you know, blah blah blah. Uh. You
Speaker 3: know these bounties that they keep offering, they must have
Speaker 3: that money. And you know, what do you call somebody
Speaker 3: who's got, you know, three hundred grand to spend on
Speaker 3: a media event, you.
Speaker 1: Know, somebody with more money than since.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that exactly. So here we are.
Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and put it out here right now.
Speaker 5: I'm willing to go and debate anybody on any podcast, anywhere, anytime,
Speaker 5: under any circumstances, and any money that changes hands will
Speaker 5: go to the charity of my choice.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, hey, all for it, you know, and let
Speaker 3: me go on record with this. If somebody's going to
Speaker 3: offer me three hundred grand, I'm probably gonna show up
Speaker 3: no matter what. The debate is just saying oh yeah,
Speaker 3: and you.
Speaker 1: Know it's like, it's like and this is what gets
Speaker 1: me good. You know.
Speaker 5: Candace Owens puts on her actual website, Oh, I have
Speaker 5: all these legal issues I'm having to deal with. Please
Speaker 5: help us out, and it proves your spare change our way.
Speaker 1: Every little bit counts.
Speaker 5: And then you read the fine print and says money's
Speaker 5: donated can be used for any expenses that Canada's LLC
Speaker 5: deems necessary.
Speaker 1: You know, she's.
Speaker 5: Wearing thousand dollars Gucci blouses on her podcast. She's going
Speaker 5: to Spain, she took a trip to Russia. She got
Speaker 5: vetted on RT of course while she was there.
Speaker 1: Yep, she's pulling in.
Speaker 5: Sixty to one hundred thousand dollars an episode based on
Speaker 5: FUSE plus all of her advertisement you know this debate
Speaker 5: they ran for fucking ads during the debate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So you know she's making all this money, but she's here,
Speaker 5: she got problem with these with these legal issues. She's
Speaker 5: getting sued by the by the head of France, the
Speaker 5: presidents of France and his wife. And now she's getting
Speaker 5: sued by Charlie Kirk's security guard. And you know, now
Speaker 5: it's going to be this, and then it's going to
Speaker 5: be that we need help, you know.
Speaker 1: It's let me put it this way.
Speaker 5: She said back in November that she got a legitimate
Speaker 5: warning from somebody in the French government high enough up
Speaker 5: that they had the authority to tell her this, that
Speaker 5: there was a hit out on her and it was
Speaker 5: going to be carried out by the French Foreign Legion.
Speaker 5: So she makes a big deal of it, and she
Speaker 5: sends she, oh, I contacted the FBI and I've heard
Speaker 5: back from.
Speaker 1: Him coming by now.
Speaker 5: She let slip today that Joe Kent was one of
Speaker 5: her sources before he quit, before he was fired. Okay,
Speaker 5: so she's been getting stuff fed to her by him,
Speaker 5: making it sound like, you know, she's doing all this
Speaker 5: investigative work and she's got all these well placed sources.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like Andrew Wilson kind of corner drawing it.
Speaker 1: He says, well, you know, what did you do, how
Speaker 1: did you contact? What did you tell them? You know,
Speaker 1: who is your source for this? Well?
Speaker 5: I can't say, he says, so, then you've got nothing
Speaker 5: that we can do to verify that this took place.
Speaker 1: Well, I sent it, I said, come to find out.
Speaker 5: She sent a text message to Joe Kind and then
Speaker 5: supposedly she sent one of Dan Bongino, who blew her
Speaker 5: off and the FBI. Apparently she sent it to the
Speaker 5: President's office and nobody got back in touch with her.
Speaker 3: Nobody.
Speaker 1: Now here's the funny thing.
Speaker 5: Her father in law is a member of the House
Speaker 5: of Lords in England. She's very very heavily influent, or
Speaker 5: not influenced. He's very heavily involved in support for Israel. Okay, now,
Speaker 5: with his connections, do you think somebody from the French
Speaker 5: government would have called her up or written her and said, yo,
Speaker 5: this is the deal.
Speaker 1: Don't you think it would have been handled through diplomatic channels?
Speaker 5: Considering that she is the daughter in law member of
Speaker 5: the House of Lords.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like a senator.
Speaker 5: So if there was a French hit put out on him,
Speaker 5: and supposedly the money came out of the Macrone's account
Speaker 5: to do it, they were going to pay it was
Speaker 5: a million or a million and a half contract. You know,
Speaker 5: I would think that somebody in the French government would
Speaker 5: be getting all to somebody in the UK government and
Speaker 5: somebody in the US government to let him know this
Speaker 5: was going on, and it wouldn't have to come from Kansas.
Speaker 3: Well it sounds like what you're saying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, just with the way diplomatic channels.
Speaker 3: Are well right, and somebody would have at least made
Speaker 3: an approach to somebody even if it wasn't you know,
Speaker 3: the guy who's in the House of Lords and all that,
Speaker 3: maybe one of his staff members would have gotten an approach.
Speaker 3: You know, you need to pass this along your boss
Speaker 3: kind of thing. Uh, you know, that's the way that's done.
Speaker 5: So I think it would have I think it would
Speaker 5: have gone through diplomatic slash. You know, government agencies like
Speaker 5: the CIA. Everybody knows everybody in our embassies are connected
Speaker 5: to CIA, right. You know, you don't work in an
Speaker 5: embassy unless you're just there mopping the floor, and you
Speaker 5: might have security clearances and know what the hell's going on.
Speaker 3: And even then you got to have a clearance, not
Speaker 3: not necessarily a high level one, but even the guy
Speaker 3: mopping the floor is given a clearance. They do the
Speaker 3: background checked, the whole bit on them. Even if I'm
Speaker 3: opping the floor, because he might accidentally inadvertently see something.
Speaker 3: So they're something, yeah, or here's something. So therefore they
Speaker 3: run security checks on them and they constantly check if
Speaker 3: there's any sinks and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I would think that if there was a legitimate million
Speaker 1: and a.
Speaker 5: Half dollar contract take it out on Cannas Owens, she
Speaker 5: would have heard about it through channels connected to her
Speaker 5: father in law or through our government, and not somebody
Speaker 5: getting hold of her.
Speaker 3: Oh by the way, Yeah, no, I'm certain you're correct,
Speaker 3: and yeah.
Speaker 1: But she's finally, this stuff is finally.
Speaker 5: This is the first time she's gone and discussed anything
Speaker 5: with anybody that would hold her to account in any way,
Speaker 5: shape or form. And he could have been better prepared.
Speaker 5: You know, she's got these little gotcha moments. It's kind
Speaker 5: of like Fetter, where you know, he would say, look,
Speaker 5: I just want to know how you make the leap
Speaker 5: from you don't think this is right to this person
Speaker 5: is involved in a conspiracy to murder Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1: I don't see the jump. Where's the logical jump. You
Speaker 1: just got backed into a.
Speaker 3: Corner, right, And the simplest answer is she did none
Speaker 3: of her own investigation, and she's just supporting the declarations
Speaker 3: that have been known to her. That's it, you know,
Speaker 3: which was fine, but identify that. Don't tell me about
Speaker 3: all the work you had to do to get it.
Speaker 3: Don't tell me about you know what you learned, tell
Speaker 3: me about what you were told. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: Get ready, get ready for the second segment of the
Speaker 3: Friday Night open Mic be gins. Now. So far, we've
Speaker 3: been covering a lot about Candice Owen and her alleged
Speaker 3: debate today. I don't know. It sounds more like a
Speaker 3: beat down to me than a debate, But okay, fair enough,
Speaker 3: and I'm glad somebody did it because I'm so sick
Speaker 3: and tired of these people that tell me, oh, this
Speaker 3: person nailed everything, they got everything right, they followed it
Speaker 3: all up, and I'm like, did they present you some
Speaker 3: heavidy oh, yeah, all kinds evidence. I've been listening to
Speaker 3: it for six months and it turns out what and
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. One of the fundamental things drip right,
Speaker 3: zip and drip drip drip because you gotta keep the
Speaker 3: grift going. But amazing stuff there. And I want be
Speaker 3: Pete to complete if he's got anything else to point
Speaker 3: out about that. But you guys can join us. Three
Speaker 3: one nine, five two seven five zero one six three
Speaker 3: one nine five two seven five zero one six will
Speaker 3: be live all the way to ten pm Eastern, when
Speaker 3: the Age of Transitions will begin, and then uncle the broadcast.
Speaker 3: The podcast broadcast will happen at eleven pm Eastern, and
Speaker 3: then the Friday night live shows are done. Now, I
Speaker 3: didn't mean to skip Thursday. And I did do Nature
Speaker 3: Boys show on Wednesday. That was kind of fun actually,
Speaker 3: and maybe I'll clarify something before him done tonight on Wednesday.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought his post on X was it was today.
Speaker 3: Well he might have released it today because.
Speaker 1: Well said five o'clock, So did I didn't. I thought
Speaker 1: it was a live show. Yeah, never mind.
Speaker 3: Well, see that's always been the problem. He always invites
Speaker 3: me on shows and it's always at exactly this time.
Speaker 3: That's why one time you and I we canceled and
Speaker 3: both of us showed up on a show to be guests. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because I canceled this to do it, you know. But
Speaker 3: that's usually when he runs live. But he contacted me
Speaker 3: the other day said, hey, look, unadvertised, unplanned, I just
Speaker 3: want to take it on Rumble. You want to go,
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, sure, let's go. And I put
Speaker 3: my copy of the audio on the twenty four seven
Speaker 3: radio stream. I haven't released it anywhere or put it
Speaker 3: in the supporter section on Speaker or anything yet, which,
Speaker 3: by the way, you can sign up for that if
Speaker 3: you like, over there on speaker dot com. The same
Speaker 3: place that the regular free feed comes from, there is
Speaker 3: a special supporter's only feed that has stuff that it
Speaker 3: everywhere night. Sorry, go ahead, what.
Speaker 1: He's running it tonight? So he recorded it Wednesday?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, well I recorded it Wednesday, and you
Speaker 3: know with him he put out then, Yeah, well I
Speaker 3: put it out live on my stream the audio.
Speaker 1: Yesday because he's running it tonight.
Speaker 3: Right, okay, Well that's all right now, so it's it's
Speaker 3: me and him on right now. Okay, great, that's beautiful.
Speaker 3: But a couple of my listeners apparently heard it though,
Speaker 3: because I already got criticism about some stuff I said.
Speaker 3: And I'll get into that, but I want to know
Speaker 3: if you're, you know, pretty much done with the Great
Speaker 3: Debate from earlier today or not, because oh yeah.
Speaker 1: We're just watching.
Speaker 5: We're just watching the critics take rolling in on next
Speaker 5: right now, and it's it's what you expected with it
Speaker 5: before it ever started. Cannie Own fans, no matter how
Speaker 5: bad she did, she won the debate or she tore
Speaker 5: him up, oh she put him in his place, blah
Speaker 5: blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And Andrew Wilson fans are coming in and going.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he smacked her around and you know, basically mugged her.
Speaker 3: So you know what might be fun for you to
Speaker 3: do later, be Pete, is go on YouTube and check
Speaker 3: out the commenter videos on it, like maybe tomorrow or
Speaker 3: the next day. There's gonna be guys, there's.
Speaker 1: Probably eight or nine of the guys. There were a bunch.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what for total views if you get
Speaker 5: everybody that was streaming it right I'm wondering if it's
Speaker 5: going to be close to a record because there were
Speaker 5: a lot of people streaming the live There was Patrick Bett,
Speaker 5: David Candace, who else three or forties lawyer guys. Okay,
Speaker 5: there was a bunch of watch parties. So yeah, I'd
Speaker 5: be curious to see what it's going to show up
Speaker 5: on YouTube people.
Speaker 3: Great, well, and that's the other thing. Then there's gonna
Speaker 3: be the after videos where they play you know, the
Speaker 3: clip videos and then they comment on it, and you know,
Speaker 3: and then there's going to be ultimately who won the debate? Uh,
Speaker 3: and you know, and then the the liberal commentators are
Speaker 3: going to get a hold of it. Have you seen
Speaker 3: the liberal YouTubers yet? Any of those guys that like
Speaker 3: constantly do the all debate trumpers for my entire stream.
Speaker 5: What there's the U what is it, Midas Touch or
Speaker 5: Midas Media, whoever it is.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen a lot of those people.
Speaker 3: Not him, basically, no, no, not him, but not those guys. See,
Speaker 3: those guys are trying to be like another mediate organization,
Speaker 3: like cable news without the cable. That's what they're trying
Speaker 3: to be is liberal case. They're trying to be what
Speaker 3: MSNBC everybody always said they were, uh except you know, Liotle.
Speaker 3: We actually attack Trump every day. Uh, you know, that's
Speaker 3: what Midas is. But no, I'm not talking about them.
Speaker 3: There's this group of young people that you know now
Speaker 3: they feel old at the age of twenty two, like okay,
Speaker 3: because they've been around since you know, the Trump backlash
Speaker 3: and they were debating Trumpers about how wrong everything is
Speaker 3: in trump Land, right. That's all they do during their streams.
Speaker 3: But occasionally they do content for their listeners where they'll
Speaker 3: break down something else. Oh did you see what Tim
Speaker 3: Dillon did? Oh did you hear what Alex Jones said?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: My, you know Roger Stone is back on the media scene.
Speaker 3: They do that kind of stuff and they do comment.
Speaker 5: I see a lot of those on YouTube and I
Speaker 5: just go buy them, and to be honest, a lot
Speaker 5: of them here lately.
Speaker 1: People have been really getting on my.
Speaker 5: Nerves on Twitter, so I just go ahead and block
Speaker 5: them so I don't have to shit in my feet.
Speaker 5: But I mean, I've already put my reaction video up.
Speaker 5: I put exclusive canvas highlights, you know, with flashing lights,
Speaker 5: and then I put a link to Morris Albert singing
Speaker 5: feelings on YouTube. Okay, So because I mean that's all
Speaker 5: it was with cannas, all I feel is just not right.
Speaker 3: So see, I love when somebody that that's an automatic
Speaker 3: loss in my mind. By the way, when I hear
Speaker 3: somebody in the debate and they open a sentence with
Speaker 3: I feel, oh yeah, I believe, okay, as soon as
Speaker 3: they're feeling and believing they lost.
Speaker 5: Because exactly, and that's just it. It's been eleven months.
Speaker 1: Of believing vibes, vibes.
Speaker 5: And feelings and her hatred for Israel and Jews, and
Speaker 5: you know it's but when he nailed her today on
Speaker 5: Israel and France, you know, you say, you feel confident,
Speaker 5: beyond a doubt, and what if you.
Speaker 1: Got to show for it?
Speaker 5: Well, I told you the stuff that I send to
Speaker 5: the FBI over there once they got.
Speaker 1: To do with Israel right of France, you know.
Speaker 5: So she's she admitted today that she thinks France and
Speaker 5: is or involved in the murder of Charlie Kirk, hands down,
Speaker 5: no doubt. So you know, and finally, hell, the Washington Times,
Speaker 5: not long after this thing was over with, the Washington
Speaker 5: Times had their headline that CANi Zones admits that there's
Speaker 5: no proof that Israel was involved in Charlie Kirk's murder.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but she's feels bit.
Speaker 5: Your publications have been waiting for this just so they
Speaker 5: could try to nail it on something, and here they are.
Speaker 1: But the headline but she feels it full of.
Speaker 3: Shit would repeat she feels it though.
Speaker 5: No, So that's why I you know, I got to
Speaker 5: cast this soon. I started watching it and I started going in,
Speaker 5: this is nothing more than fucking emotions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought, who was that guy that.
Speaker 5: Did feelings and turned it into a hit, so I
Speaker 5: wouldn't found it on yet on YouTube and stuck it
Speaker 5: up there is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been redone a couple of times and actually
Speaker 3: generated interest, you know, nothing more than feelings. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think that's hilarious. But but it's great. I really. I think
Speaker 3: you'll be entertained though by watching the weird liberal video
Speaker 3: of blogger. Guys are gonna be all over this debate.
Speaker 3: I guarantee it, because if she looked bad enough, they'll
Speaker 3: definitely pull up clips.
Speaker 5: Oh it's gonna be You're gonna the next week is
Speaker 5: just tell them what we're gonna see.
Speaker 3: Right, it's gonna be, like guaranteed, within forty eight hours,
Speaker 3: there's gonna be one hundred different comment videos about it,
Speaker 3: breaking it down. Here's why Candace won, Here's why Candace lost,
Speaker 3: Here's why nobody won, you know, every which way.
Speaker 1: Here's the moment that Candace realized she screwed up.
Speaker 3: Yep, it would go freeze that. See that look on
Speaker 3: her face. That means okay, twenty.
Speaker 5: Of those on Twitter, so this to look on your
Speaker 5: face when you find out you got nothing to.
Speaker 3: Fall back on, there you go.
Speaker 1: So anyways, I think the most insane thing, though, yeah.
Speaker 5: Was that it took. I don't know whether the credit
Speaker 5: Candace for being able to hold out for this much
Speaker 5: drift in one poll, but if you can't get somebody
Speaker 5: to talk for fifty thousand dollars and it takes three
Speaker 5: hundred thousand to get them in front of a damn
Speaker 5: camera and admit that they don't have shit, I think
Speaker 5: she's gonna wish she'd held out for the half of milk.
Speaker 5: She's gonna lose two hundred thousand dollars in support from
Speaker 5: people who saw this and be going, well, I've been
Speaker 5: listening to you for the past eleven months and you
Speaker 5: didn't have anything.
Speaker 1: Ian Carroll puts up on his Twitter post, what was it? Oh?
Speaker 5: Campus has had eleven months of compelling content, and I've had.
Speaker 1: To make a comment.
Speaker 5: I said, yeah, eleven months of content so compelling that
Speaker 5: she could not pull one item of evidence from all
Speaker 5: of it.
Speaker 1: No kidding, that's pretty bad.
Speaker 3: This is my point. There is a you know, listen,
Speaker 3: there's plenty of grifters, there's plenty of feeling based broadcasters.
Speaker 3: There's plenty of people out there that are willing to
Speaker 3: entertain your point of view. Everybody yours point of view.
Speaker 3: But the truth is somebody who actually shows up, brings
Speaker 3: some evidence, you know, combats things logically, you know, does
Speaker 3: a little bit of reasoning, you know, in the area
Speaker 3: of the non cognitively impaired flavor. Dude, it's just too funny.
Speaker 3: You're right, it is a long run to not have
Speaker 3: to bring up any actual evidence and just run on
Speaker 3: your feelings. I mean, I'd be tired if I was
Speaker 3: that deep in my feeling.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, because it's been that way all week
Speaker 5: with this back and forth on them setting the damn
Speaker 5: thing up. China says, no, it'll be at my place.
Speaker 5: You'll have to come here and you won't be able
Speaker 5: to smoke because Andrew Wilson will chain smoke when he's
Speaker 5: doing his program, and you won't be able to smoke.
Speaker 5: I'm seven months pregnant, you know, and I'm sitting there thinking, oh,
Speaker 5: wait a minute.
Speaker 1: You went on Bill.
Speaker 5: Mahler's show, Bill Maher when you were pregnant and you
Speaker 5: sat next to him while he was huffing a blunt.
Speaker 5: You know, since when did you suddenly become so concerned
Speaker 5: about being pregnant and smoke. It's just crap like that.
Speaker 5: It's been going on all week, you know, just contradictions,
Speaker 5: and today finally it came to a head.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll see her do more of this now.
Speaker 5: I don't know who's gonna waste their money on it
Speaker 5: based on what she did.
Speaker 1: She pulled the Stut Peters. Andrew Wilson was on with
Speaker 1: Stut Peters a week ago.
Speaker 5: And he tried to corner stew on Israel being involved
Speaker 5: in an exploding.
Speaker 1: Microphone and all this stuff, and stup Peter's.
Speaker 5: Basically told him, well, you know, because we're not the prosecution,
Speaker 5: I don't have to defend anything that I say. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And he's going, well, wait a minute, you know, if
Speaker 5: you can't, if none of that is up for the debate,
Speaker 5: then what is the debate? What is the exactly And
Speaker 5: basically you had stut Peter's two point zero today Canvas
Speaker 5: could offer nothing. You know, It's like, well, what evidence
Speaker 5: do you have? Well, you need to watch my show.
Speaker 5: It's like, bitch, I've been watching your show for I've
Speaker 5: been watching the highlight reels for eleven months. You ain't
Speaker 5: got shit. You know, why would I watch your show?
Speaker 5: There's nothing there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, plus you want me to pay you, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I.
Speaker 5: Thought in their agreement they couldn't come up with a
Speaker 5: homomums and a hominems. And at the end, Candas is
Speaker 5: so flustered. She she looked at him and said, well,
Speaker 5: you don't have to act like an asshole. And I thought,
Speaker 5: wait a minute, if that was a breach of contract,
Speaker 5: I'd be up there. Bitch, you better cash out my
Speaker 5: three hundred thousand dollars back before we leave this motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know what the problem is there is
Speaker 3: that toward the end, a lot of times, you know,
Speaker 3: these media figures throw out the rules just to jam
Speaker 3: in what they can, and they don't care because look,
Speaker 3: what are you gonna do? You're gonna end the program
Speaker 3: you're not gonna to rebroadcast it. You're stuck with it now.
Speaker 3: So they wait strategically for the end to break rules
Speaker 3: like that. You know that. I don't know if she
Speaker 3: got flustered enough to do it early, but generally that's
Speaker 3: when it happens. Even the cursing and stuff. You'll hear
Speaker 3: the bleeps whenever they got to bleep something out because
Speaker 3: they had an agreement about that or all that stuff
Speaker 3: always seems to happen toward the end because now you've
Speaker 3: already wasted your time, you've invested in it, you've done
Speaker 3: a live stream. There's enough witnesses. Now. If you disappear this,
Speaker 3: people are gonna know you disappeared it. It's like that.
Speaker 3: I know this from experience. By the way, this isn't
Speaker 3: me speculating. Okay, this is why people will turn around
Speaker 3: and wait to you know, sandbag you at the end
Speaker 3: of a discussion all the time. Okay, because what are
Speaker 3: you gonna do now with it? You just did this live,
Speaker 3: Your listeners know you did it live, You advertised it,
Speaker 3: and now what are you gonna do? Not play it? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Good luck, or you can cut it. But then I
Speaker 3: can get to say that you edited the recording. You
Speaker 3: see what I mean? And now it's like, well, geob
Speaker 3: criticism one, two, three, four, Hey, hey, hey, that guy
Speaker 3: edited that recording. You want to know how I know
Speaker 3: because this happened at the end and I said this
Speaker 3: and I shouldn't have, but I slipped, or I made
Speaker 3: a mistake or I forgot and yeah, and meanwhile, they're
Speaker 3: sticking you with it because now what are you gonna do.
Speaker 3: You're gonna show your audience here you're too afraid to
Speaker 3: release it, and now I get to tell a story
Speaker 3: about why you're afraid to release it. This is the
Speaker 3: way people think, by the way, And apparently she's got
Speaker 3: that part of it down, huh okay, fair enough. So anyway,
Speaker 3: I was on Nature Boys Show on Wednesday, though, and
Speaker 3: it was heard on Ocelli dot com radio, and like
Speaker 3: I said, it's been heard in replay since because I
Speaker 3: put it in the replay rotation. It probably played five
Speaker 3: times a day on Thursday and today already. But here's
Speaker 3: the I got a bit of backlash because I made
Speaker 3: a statement, and I'm getting even more ignorant responses from
Speaker 3: a couple of guys, and I'm gonna I'm gonna run
Speaker 3: it by b Pete. Be Pete, I did not discuss
Speaker 3: any of my appearance with Nature Boy with you before
Speaker 3: we went to air at all. You have no idea
Speaker 3: what I'm about to tell you, do you?
Speaker 1: No, I haven't even heard the broadcast.
Speaker 3: No, you might not have even been aware I did
Speaker 3: his podcast on Wednesday up until I told him you did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't know you did until I saw his
Speaker 5: post today that he was gonna run it tonight.
Speaker 3: There you go. Okay, So just saying I'm blindsiding be
Speaker 3: Pete with this, Okay, just to prove this point, all
Speaker 3: right now, Methodology wise, I got called out. They were
Speaker 3: telling me I don't know what I'm talking about, and
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to sound like a tough guy because
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. Okay, skip all that. I don't care.
Speaker 3: The thing that aggravated me was, uh they were talking
Speaker 3: about Okay. He brought up something about assassination and killing
Speaker 3: somebody under contract, okay. And what I tried to explain,
Speaker 3: and I used some impolite language at one point and said,
Speaker 3: listen to white people don't seem to understand this, and
Speaker 3: the white trash mafia doesn't get it either. And by
Speaker 3: the white trash mafia, I did directly mean the Dixie
Speaker 3: mafia they call themselves. They're basically like a phone tree.
Speaker 3: They don't function like the Italian mafia, not at all. Okay.
Speaker 3: And there's other redneck type groups out there that function
Speaker 3: as what I call the white trash mafia. I'm sorry, Okay,
Speaker 3: they function a certain way. They function for hire. Go ahead.
Speaker 1: They have our ways down here in the.
Speaker 3: South, that's right. And I'm not saying you don't. What
Speaker 3: I'm saying is they don't match with the Italians. That's
Speaker 3: all I'm saying. It's not the same thing.
Speaker 1: And don't anybody no.
Speaker 3: And here's my point about it though, that I was
Speaker 3: making at the time, because everybody goes, well, there's a
Speaker 3: certain amount of money you got to pay to get
Speaker 3: somebody killed, and this and that, and I said, yeah, see,
Speaker 3: here's the problem with Hollywood teaching you about the Italian
Speaker 3: business ways. There's usually not open contracts on people for
Speaker 3: cash in the Italian world. That's not the way that word.
Speaker 1: You do me this favor, I'd do you a favor.
Speaker 3: That's that is a good description. And it's not about cash. Now,
Speaker 3: have there been open contracts. Yes, Joepah Stone is an
Speaker 3: example of an open contract where you know the guy
Speaker 3: who did Donnie Brasco, who you know infiltrated Bob and
Speaker 3: they put a price on his head. But that is
Speaker 3: a bounty for somebody's head. That is not the same
Speaker 3: as a contract killing in the Italian world, not the
Speaker 3: same thing at all.
Speaker 5: No, And in the Italian world, you have to go
Speaker 5: through several channels, right, You got to work your way
Speaker 5: through the system to get to the guy that's got
Speaker 5: the power and the authority to say, okay, I give
Speaker 5: this my blessing.
Speaker 3: Right. And here's the reason why it is kind of
Speaker 3: scary is because depending on who that guy is, if
Speaker 3: he's high up enough in an organization, he might have
Speaker 3: ten guys that he now basically says I want this
Speaker 3: guy's head. All ten of those guys could go try
Speaker 3: and do it, okay, just or all. You know, if
Speaker 3: it's a big boss, he might have one hundred guys
Speaker 3: under him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's kind of a standing order.
Speaker 3: It's a standing order. Any one of those hundred or
Speaker 3: any combination of those hundred could now come for your ass. Okay.
Speaker 3: It's not the same thing as there's a bounty, you
Speaker 3: want to collect it, go kill the guy. That is
Speaker 3: a different story, and I called it the white trash mafia.
Speaker 3: But what I was meaning to say is that there
Speaker 3: are this is the way bikers work this way. Bikers
Speaker 3: work this way too. The Dixie Mafia worked this way,
Speaker 3: where they might put out a lot of open contracts
Speaker 3: for cash, there was a bounty on people's heads. In fact,
Speaker 3: I'll tell you the truth. One of the things that
Speaker 3: I believe, for very good reason is that Martin Luther
Speaker 3: King Junior's murder was a contract killing. Okay, I know
Speaker 3: that doesn't fit with most narratives you've read, but James R.
Speaker 3: Olray and his family tried to collect the bounty afterwards,
Speaker 3: you understand.
Speaker 5: So I'm not that's and I've gotten into that argument
Speaker 5: with people here lately discussing Martin Luther King Junior because
Speaker 5: of the similarities between his injuries and Charlie Kirks.
Speaker 3: Oh and and I, by the way, on that show,
Speaker 3: I absolutely referenced your argument and brought you up and
Speaker 3: said that it's it's absolutely correct because see nature boy
Speaker 3: means well, but he says, oh, if they say this
Speaker 3: about that kind of ammunition. Then they don't know what
Speaker 3: they're talking about. And I went, oh, hold on, because
Speaker 3: I had this discussion already on my show. And believe me,
Speaker 3: you've got to slow up a little there. The second
Speaker 3: you start telling me that a piece of ammunition can't
Speaker 3: do something means you did not take into account everything
Speaker 3: that could possibly happen. Because bullets do weird shit, they
Speaker 3: just do. Okay, And you study forensics enough, you're gonna
Speaker 3: find and you study ballistics, you study a gunshot, you know, homicides,
Speaker 3: you're gonna discover all kinds of weird things. Okay, Ricochets
Speaker 3: that do stuff, bigger holes going in than coming out,
Speaker 3: all kinds of weird stuff happens due to different conditions. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: When I was going through medic training, they showed us
Speaker 5: a lot of films from Vietnam that involved you know,
Speaker 5: X rays and things like that of individuals. And you
Speaker 5: can take it two to three from them sixteen and
Speaker 5: shoot somebody in the ankle and they come out they're
Speaker 5: left nipple. Yeah, that much ricochet and go goes on,
Speaker 5: and the big argument is dead, Well, it's impossible for
Speaker 5: him to be killed and it not blow his head
Speaker 5: off or go through his neck. And it's like, you know,
Speaker 5: the perfect example is Martin Luther King getting.
Speaker 3: Shot right because and what I said is it is
Speaker 3: an open record. You can go look at it himself,
Speaker 3: and you know, to see that forensically they examined this
Speaker 3: and take a look at what that bullet did. And
Speaker 3: the point was that it's very similar to the type
Speaker 3: of gun and everything else that was used in the
Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk situation. Allegedly. Okay, uh, there's a different distance,
Speaker 3: there's different conditions at play here. There's definitely a different
Speaker 3: type of marksman, okay, and all of these come into play.
Speaker 3: And I said, even the curvature of the earth, depending
Speaker 3: on your distance, will change your results.
Speaker 5: And well that's the thing about Martin Luther King things
Speaker 5: that I'm getting back to the contract.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 5: I don't know why that aspect of it wasn't considered more.
Speaker 1: Well, especially because people they had to be a racial thing. Well, no,
Speaker 1: not necessarily.
Speaker 5: It may have been a racial thing at the start,
Speaker 5: but James are Away even have an issue with Martin
Speaker 5: Luther King.
Speaker 3: Far as I know, the guys who put up the money, okay,
Speaker 3: might have had a racial thing here.
Speaker 1: True.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but whoever collected on it, it wouldn't have mattered. And
Speaker 3: James are a ray pretty much, even though his family,
Speaker 3: you know, come came across pretty much. If you had
Speaker 3: to say you were dealing with some racist people, you
Speaker 3: probably were. But James are oray in general, not the
Speaker 3: most severe racist guy, got along pretty good with guys in.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was a businessman. He saw a contract, he
Speaker 5: fulfilled it. There did he get to the UK?
Speaker 3: Well that's without well that's a whole other issue. But
Speaker 3: my point is that it was an open contract and
Speaker 3: what we have discovered over time, even though again nobody
Speaker 3: wants to publicly acknowledge this, especially the King family does
Speaker 3: not want to acknowledge this, there were several open contracts
Speaker 3: on Martin Luther King Junior where people said, you know,
Speaker 3: at first thousand dollars, I will get rid of this guy,
Speaker 3: you know, or the equivalent of fifty grand at the time.
Speaker 3: I should say there were several thousand. If you would
Speaker 3: have gone out and done it and then had the
Speaker 3: guts to go around collecting the money, you would have
Speaker 3: been rich. If you would have pulled it off and
Speaker 3: collected the money.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in nineteen sixty eight. Absolutely, okay, it.
Speaker 1: Was sixty eight.
Speaker 5: Let's see, yeah, April fourth, sixty eight, yep, let's just
Speaker 5: see fifty.
Speaker 3: Thous Yeah, how much money.
Speaker 13: In nineteen sixty eight dollars value two day. Let's see,
Speaker 13: fifty thousand dollars in nineteen sixty eight is worth approximately
Speaker 13: four hundred seventy nine thousand, hundred and sixteen dollars.
Speaker 1: And today do the inflation over the years.
Speaker 3: Right, so nine nine plus times the amount of money
Speaker 3: is what it is. So what I'm saying is five grand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just over yeah, just over nine times.
Speaker 3: Let's just say you put up six grand in nineteen
Speaker 3: sixty eight to have Martin Luther King Junior killed. That's
Speaker 3: the equivalency of fifty grand about approximately.
Speaker 1: Let's see, let's see six thousand, yeah, try, six.
Speaker 3: Thousand dollars come out? Should come out that way?
Speaker 1: I think, Oh.
Speaker 5: Don't tell me, such assists couldn't find it. It just
Speaker 5: gave me one for fifty Oh god, I hate this thing.
Speaker 1: Pain in the ass.
Speaker 3: And then I'll give you some actual numbers.
Speaker 5: I know about fifty seven thousand, okay, fifty seven thousand,
Speaker 5: five hundred and seventy two.
Speaker 3: So more than fifty grand, sorry, more than fifty grand
Speaker 3: if I give you six grand in nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 3: All right. Yeah, The point is, though I know for
Speaker 3: a fact there was a ten thousand dollars contract out Okay,
Speaker 3: so not a joke, And there were several contracts. Theoretically
Speaker 3: somebody could have probably picked up five six contract payments
Speaker 3: if the money was there. And that's the other funny thing.
Speaker 3: You know, the guy that you know, Willie Somerset recorded
Speaker 3: and oh it's in the works and he's going to
Speaker 3: get shot from the building and all that stuff. That
Speaker 3: guy from Georgia, right, that guy was out Now, he
Speaker 3: was a con man on some levels, but he did
Speaker 3: legitimately collect money in support of there was a whole
Speaker 3: thing going on there in the sixties, and he was
Speaker 3: one of the guys out there collecting money supposedly to
Speaker 3: raise money to put a price on some of these
Speaker 3: people's heads, including King. So I'm just saying there is
Speaker 3: there are things that play that. And how many people
Speaker 3: have you ever heard say that anywhere on a public broadcast?
Speaker 3: Not many? Okay, no, No.
Speaker 5: What they all focus on was the civil suit that
Speaker 5: the King family.
Speaker 1: Had going after jours.
Speaker 5: Right, they go by that and in the jury's instruction
Speaker 5: there was never any evidence. There was questions asked, but
Speaker 5: there was never any evidence ever entered that any government
Speaker 5: agency was involved. Where everybody says, oh, yeah, the government
Speaker 5: was sound guilty.
Speaker 1: No, the government wasn't.
Speaker 5: The jury form for that trial basically had like three
Speaker 5: things on it. Was he guilty alone? Was he guilty
Speaker 5: in a conspiracy? Was he guilty? And other elements of
Speaker 5: the government were unnamed co conspirators were involved, And.
Speaker 1: That's what the jury checked.
Speaker 5: But and I went on this long argument with a
Speaker 5: guy just a few weeks ago about it. He said, oh, well,
Speaker 5: the government was involved. I said who, Well, he didn't
Speaker 5: have an answer, right, Well, but they found they found
Speaker 5: him Libel. I said, no, they found Jowers Libel and
Speaker 5: other people connected with the government, but they never said who.
Speaker 5: Nobody was ever sued from the government, nobody ever had
Speaker 5: to pay the one hundred dollars that they were going
Speaker 5: after in the civil suit. So that's where this big
Speaker 5: government conspiracy go.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it was part of the trial. Well no,
Speaker 1: it wasn't.
Speaker 3: Well, there was stuff entered into evidence that showed you've
Speaker 3: ready for this word government complicity. Uh, you know, in
Speaker 3: a lot of things that took place, and well, yeah,
Speaker 3: but what they.
Speaker 5: Were comed what was one of the ones that there
Speaker 5: was a military unit in Memphis, right that was active.
Speaker 1: At that time, so they had to be involved.
Speaker 3: Okay, proper context, here's the thing. All over the country
Speaker 3: there were literally military based I'm going to call the
Speaker 3: military based because the ones that we know about quite
Speaker 3: well or from the army, but they're not the only ones.
Speaker 3: Military based sniper teams, trained sniper teams that were deployed domestically.
Speaker 3: They were deployed domestically to deal with the unrest, to observe,
Speaker 3: mostly during the unrests in the sixties. That is a
Speaker 3: point of public record. At this point, it's still very
Speaker 3: shady as to their exact operations, but the claim is
Speaker 3: that they were out there to observe and assist l
Speaker 3: law enforcement and this and that, and hardly anybody's got
Speaker 3: paper trails on it. But the government hasn't denied this,
Speaker 3: and there are records out there that show that they
Speaker 3: were deployed to major cities, especially well, you know, you
Speaker 3: see it more after King has assassinated, honestly, but previous
Speaker 3: to that, you know, like the Watts riots, that took
Speaker 3: place in what sixty six, right, Newark takes place in
Speaker 3: sixty eight, think major riots, burning and all that stuff
Speaker 3: was happening all over the country. And at a certain point, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they deployed military people not to participate in law enforcement
Speaker 3: because that would be a violation of posse commentanas. But
Speaker 3: they did deploy special train specially trained Special Forces trained
Speaker 3: Army sniper teams to different cities. Memphis had them deployed there,
Speaker 3: and it's alleged that they were there and present on
Speaker 3: the day the king was assassinated. No one's contradicted that
Speaker 3: I thought, but nobody's backed up with I thought.
Speaker 5: They were seeing surveilling the hotel the night before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were, but that's the thing. They were there
Speaker 3: in the area doing surveillance. But remember I said that
Speaker 3: to begin with, they were there for observational purposes.
Speaker 5: But I didn't I thought they It wasn't the day of,
Speaker 5: It was the night before that they were actually seen
Speaker 5: out and about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then there's but then there is stuff on
Speaker 3: the record that shows that, you know, like they didn't
Speaker 3: depart until after everything went down, So you know, now
Speaker 3: now you've got to prove were they actually actively observing
Speaker 3: during the time King was shot. You know, we do
Speaker 3: know that a that a guy who was you know,
Speaker 3: posing to be part of the invaders, you know, a
Speaker 3: black activist group by the way in the area, you know,
Speaker 3: was there and apparently worked for the CIA, according to
Speaker 3: many accounts, who happened to be one of the first
Speaker 3: people to attend you know, King after he fell on
Speaker 3: the ground. There is all kinds of people there that
Speaker 3: are connected to this. That and the third thing, including
Speaker 3: the Italian businessman associations, including your white trash mafia of
Speaker 3: all sorts. There is a big old conflagration people there
Speaker 3: and during that civil trial, that's pretty much what Pepper
Speaker 3: was saying, all these people are here. So yeah, that's
Speaker 3: but you see, you see how I'm having to carefully
Speaker 3: parse through this and I can't just state, Okay, this
Speaker 3: is what's involved, because it's not. It's not as rock
Speaker 3: solid as some people. But some people turn it into
Speaker 3: something rock solid. They turned it into the government, did it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we were living in New Orleans at
Speaker 5: the time, and I remember that there were stirrings of
Speaker 5: somehow connected to people in New Orleans and moved it.
Speaker 3: To probably, but that would be because there was a
Speaker 3: lot of greasy business that went through New Orleans, you know,
Speaker 3: and that means everything again, not just Italians, not just
Speaker 3: white trash, but all of it. You know what they
Speaker 3: call human trafficking today, big time prostitution rings running through
Speaker 3: New Orleans.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, people. And I don't know why.
Speaker 5: Well, if you're familiar with the Kennedy assassination and you
Speaker 5: know what was going on in connections near New Orleans,
Speaker 5: you know, people forget that. The only you know, nowadays
Speaker 5: you hear about all all the immigrants coming in through
Speaker 5: Texas and this and that. But back in the early sixties,
Speaker 5: you had places San Francisco, New Orleans, Baltimore, Charleston, all
Speaker 5: of these places where immigrants and funny Shenanigans from overseas
Speaker 5: were coming into our nation. And so you had that element,
Speaker 5: that underground element connected to all the shady shit in
Speaker 5: those cities, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just a network, and there wasn't just.
Speaker 3: Mob and it wasn't just major cities. There were second
Speaker 3: city connections, like I can tell you factually once again,
Speaker 3: Middle Eastern connections. In the nineteen sixties when nobody was
Speaker 3: really thinking about it, a lot of shady stuff going
Speaker 3: through a place called Edison, New Jersey. Look it up. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's named after Thomas Edison. And it's kind of like
Speaker 3: a small city that doesn't quite get to be a
Speaker 3: big city for even New Jersey.
Speaker 5: Well, Kansas City, yeah, you know, you look at the connections.
Speaker 5: I had an uncle that was living in New Orleans,
Speaker 5: worked for concrete manufacturer down there, and then moved back
Speaker 5: up to Kansas but originally went to Kansas City, and
Speaker 5: there were questions about some of his business transactions, let's put.
Speaker 1: It that way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know why, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, there was a huge connection between Kansas City and
Speaker 1: New Orleans.
Speaker 5: And you know in Kansas City's in the middle of
Speaker 5: damn nowhere, right, but that was a major hub for
Speaker 5: everything that they had going on moving across the US, right.
Speaker 3: And there was even and there was even an independent
Speaker 3: satellite of the New York families in Kansas City. Yeah,
Speaker 3: back in the fifties and sixties. And and when they
Speaker 3: were building Las Vegas that you know when okay, you know,
Speaker 3: like in the movie, because you know where they talk
Speaker 3: about the Kansas City Mob was involved in the construction
Speaker 3: and all that stuff. Those guys are actually New York people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they will put there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were put there from New York. And here's
Speaker 3: here's how I know this. Okay, you've heard of people
Speaker 3: getting made, right, Well, you actually need to have a
Speaker 3: boss present when you know, ahead of a family must
Speaker 3: be present when guys are being made. I don't know
Speaker 3: if you know this, but anyways, the deal is this.
Speaker 3: They had to get somebody from New York to come
Speaker 3: down and make people in Kansas City because there was
Speaker 3: no technical head there. They were like a franchise from
Speaker 3: New York. Now, there was also a franchise from New
Speaker 3: Orleans that was there in Kansas City. You're right and
Speaker 3: ready for this one. There's also a franchise from Florida
Speaker 3: that went to Kansas City. Kansas City is not run
Speaker 3: by its own people. It's not run by its own
Speaker 3: like local Italians. Even the Italians are imported into Kansas City.
Speaker 3: And it's almost like sending somebody there for punishment, Like
Speaker 3: the guys will screw up elsewhere and you don't want
Speaker 3: to kill them, you send them to Kansas City anyway.
Speaker 3: All right, that's a little inside baseball, but I find
Speaker 3: it funny. And meanwhile, those guys were integral in the
Speaker 3: building of what do you call it a Las Vegas.
Speaker 3: But but you know, but that's again the cement contractor
Speaker 3: makes perfect sense. You know, that's one thing they didn't
Speaker 3: have a problem getting in the middle of the desert
Speaker 3: was cement. Guess why, you know, so you know, they
Speaker 3: didn't have to even build a plant. The stuff was
Speaker 3: brought in no problem because they were gonna move things
Speaker 3: around anyway, and they needed more traffic to be able
Speaker 3: to hide other stuff. So no problem, will move the
Speaker 3: you know, you're doing us a favor by giving us
Speaker 3: a place to deliver cement to So yeah, but anyway,
Speaker 3: I said it on there, and I tried to explain
Speaker 3: that was the point that I was trying to make
Speaker 3: about this that Hollywood gives you this idea you put
Speaker 3: a price on somebody's head and then somebody comes to
Speaker 3: collect it. Well, in Hollywood they can't tell you the
Speaker 3: story about how if a price goes on somebody's head,
Speaker 3: it's an open contract. That means you don't need to
Speaker 3: be anybody to be involved in that. But in the
Speaker 3: Italian world that's not the way that works. There wouldn't
Speaker 3: have been an exchange of money like these people that
Speaker 3: want to scream up and down. Oh you know it
Speaker 3: was an Italian who killed Kennedy. I guarantee it. Well,
Speaker 3: here's the thing. You're making that assertion and then telling
Speaker 3: me that they got paid. No, there's no payment on this.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you. It's like I said Joe Pistone. Yes,
Speaker 3: there's an open monetary contract on his ass, Henry Hill
Speaker 3: until the day he died, at an open contract on
Speaker 3: his ass. But that is rare. That is not something
Speaker 3: you do to somebody that you're taken out for the
Speaker 3: sake of the organization. That is somebody. That's a vengeance thing,
Speaker 3: and that's usually personal and somebody does put up that
Speaker 3: money depending on the circumstance. But open contract killing is
Speaker 3: not the norm, is all I'm trying to say, God.
Speaker 5: And it's and it's because of the legalities that come
Speaker 5: out of it, where when it works under the auspices
Speaker 5: of I need you to do me this favor, I
Speaker 5: will be in your debt. You know, it's kind of
Speaker 5: hard to you can't. There's no money trail to trace.
Speaker 5: You know. Things are done off the books by organizations.
Speaker 1: Who cheap score.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the conversation to two for that.
Speaker 1: You only three for this, I need you to do
Speaker 1: me this favor.
Speaker 3: And what you get to know is whether it's in
Speaker 3: English or it's in any other language. There is also
Speaker 3: a code that goes on here, and I'll explain it
Speaker 3: to you this way. Let's just say Be pat and
Speaker 3: I are in a family together, and I'm the boss,
Speaker 3: or at least i'm over be Pete, and we are
Speaker 3: got a friend named Bob. Bob's gotta go, you understand,
Speaker 3: So I say to be Pete, I don't tell him
Speaker 3: Bob's got to go. I tell him, you know, Be Pete,
Speaker 3: Bobby's looking tired.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: He should probably go on vacation. I'm saying, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe somebody should talk to him about that.
Speaker 1: Ah, no problem, I'll contact on travel aging.
Speaker 3: Bob is a dead man audience. That is what just happened. Okay,
Speaker 3: I have just ordered him to go get rid of Bob,
Speaker 3: and I never said it.
Speaker 1: Set him up on a one way ticket to Paradise.
Speaker 3: However, we play with the language after. That's irrelevant because
Speaker 3: anybody who pulls up that conversation, guess what, somebody's also
Speaker 3: going to actually probably buy him a plane ticket he
Speaker 3: never uses and put it in his name. Stuff like
Speaker 3: that goes on so that that conversation is fully covered.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if God heard.
Speaker 5: It, but me and I you know what happenedicket, The
Speaker 5: ticket will be bought, just somebody else is going to
Speaker 5: spend that weeknd in Guadalahaa.
Speaker 3: You're right to confuse the whole trail of everything. Plus,
Speaker 3: you know we talk about and by and BP. It's
Speaker 3: gonna let me know everything's done by telling me that
Speaker 3: you know, the guy's ticket got punched or he had
Speaker 3: a good time on the vacation or.
Speaker 1: Whatever, wonderful vacation in guadal Laha.
Speaker 3: And there you go. That means I know, not only
Speaker 3: do I know he's dead, but I know he got
Speaker 3: rid of the body actually, And that's that. Okay, So
Speaker 3: the conversation has never had. This is the thing I
Speaker 3: keep trying to explain to these guys too, is that
Speaker 3: you don't sit there. I don't sit there and go
Speaker 3: if I'm looking to do this, I don't go. Look
Speaker 3: I want this guy dead. It's not the movies. Okay,
Speaker 3: it's just not the movies. Guys. Anyways, Look, we're almost
Speaker 3: at the end, and it's funny because Jimmy James just
Speaker 3: called in. I don't know if he was napping or what,
Speaker 3: but I want to put him on. But I wanted
Speaker 3: to clarify that because the guy gave me a whole
Speaker 3: rash of crap about it. He was mad that I
Speaker 3: said white trash mafia first of all. But you know
Speaker 3: what I meant to do was that bikers. But here's
Speaker 3: the thing. Bikers, Dixie guys, these different like little redneck
Speaker 3: sects of sort in different regions. That's I'm throwing them
Speaker 3: all in one basket, and they're almost always all white people.
Speaker 3: Some of them are not ethnically exclusive, though, Like there's
Speaker 3: little groups that are kind of open minded about who's
Speaker 3: there ethnically. I gotta tell you in the Deep South, okay,
Speaker 3: maybe one day I'll explain that. But the biker organization,
Speaker 3: they all do the same thing. Those guys will pay
Speaker 3: to play, And the only reason why you know about
Speaker 3: these kind of contracts being available is because you're in
Speaker 3: that world. That's their buffer. But in the Italian world,
Speaker 3: totally different. There is no cash exchange. Now, I'm going
Speaker 3: to reward b Pete for that conversation we just had,
Speaker 3: but I'm never gonna say that that's what it's for suddenly,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna find a way to get him a ran
Speaker 3: new Cadillac for one hundred bucks. Okay, stuff like this
Speaker 3: is gonna happen now. Okay. His girlfriend is suddenly going
Speaker 3: to find an apartment that she doesn't have to pay
Speaker 3: for and his wife is never gonna know about it. Anyways,
Speaker 3: let me get be let me get Jimmy James on
Speaker 3: before I run on anymore about this. But BPTE, you
Speaker 3: know I'm right right?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Like I said, we have our own way
Speaker 5: of doing things here in the South.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. And I'm not saying I know how to
Speaker 3: decode all of it. All I'm trying to say is
Speaker 3: it's not the same thing, even if they call that
Speaker 3: the Dixie Mafia. Not the same thing. That's all I'm
Speaker 3: getting at. And that's all I meant to say. Anyways, boy, yep, anyways,
Speaker 3: Jimmy James, let's get him. Let's see do I Okay,
Speaker 3: the button worked good? Jimmy. I hope you can hear me.
Speaker 3: And if PPE can't hear you, I will fix it quickly.
Speaker 3: So how you doing, man?
Speaker 12: I'm acre uh oh.
Speaker 3: Theoretically, theoretically, because he became a travel agent for me,
Speaker 3: and uh, therefore, you know, I gotta I gotta reward
Speaker 3: him somehow, and I'm not going to give him cash.
Speaker 3: He's got to go earn that. And it's about It's
Speaker 3: about the way contract killing works among Italians is what
Speaker 3: I did as an example, and b Pete helped me
Speaker 3: out with it. Uh, and then rewards come after that,
Speaker 3: but they're not directly linked to you going out and
Speaker 3: killing somebody for me. I was trying to explain this
Speaker 3: on another show and I got, you know, like ripped
Speaker 3: for it is all because they were saying, oh, I
Speaker 3: don't know how stuff works and this and that, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, this is how it works. But you know,
Speaker 3: if you're watching Hollywood to tell you how, uh you
Speaker 3: know Italians kill each other, You're you're looking in the
Speaker 3: wrong place, is all I'm trying to tell you, outside
Speaker 3: of the fact that occasionally, spontaneously things just happened because
Speaker 3: the stuff gets out of hand and sometimes you got
Speaker 3: a psychopath among you. Yeah, absolutely true. But anyway, did
Speaker 3: you hear Jimmy when he talked to me V Yes, okay, good, good,
Speaker 3: So Jimmy go ahead. That's why I was trying to
Speaker 3: give him the Cadillac in theory. Believe me, I will. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if I had him to give, I give him.
Speaker 5: Just Polly from.
Speaker 1: Did he Guy this Week or something?
Speaker 5: And getting on that.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, not long ago, right, Yeah. But the guy
Speaker 3: who played Pauli Walnuts, I'm trying to think of his
Speaker 3: name actually, who was actually a real life wise guy
Speaker 3: to some degree. He wasn't a made guy, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was what Tony Sirico.
Speaker 3: That's it, Sirrico. Yeah, uh huh. He passed away recently.
Speaker 1: I would be so sure about that, Chuck. He did
Speaker 1: come up in a murder investigation I was reading.
Speaker 3: We died, he died.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I brought it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But but but Jimmy, if you dig hard enough,
Speaker 3: my name's in seven murder investigations. I mean, it's not
Speaker 3: hard in that area. It just happens.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he was like the last dude scene with her,
Speaker 4: and shit, I mean, there's good.
Speaker 1: Reasons to talk to have wanted to talk to.
Speaker 12: That fella about that, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I can't even remember all the details about it.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you. The one guy who had like zero
Speaker 3: ties to anything was was Gandolfini, which I always found
Speaker 3: hilarious because he played you know, the boss on that show,
Speaker 3: but he knew nobody. Those guys would approach him every
Speaker 3: now and then and try to correct him about the
Speaker 3: way he was behaving on screen.
Speaker 1: No, wait a minute, yeah it was.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 4: There's a whole crew of them that were pretty.
Speaker 1: Legit that pretty much drifted from the.
Speaker 4: Set of Godfathers to every Mapia movie made up up
Speaker 4: until I guess they're kind of dying out now.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's kind of how they made a living.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: There was a bunch of guys like that.
Speaker 5: This guy Seriico, though he died in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 5: there was somebody who.
Speaker 1: Okay, Vincent passed story.
Speaker 3: Oh right, you know no, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: big pussy.
Speaker 1: Yeah he just died.
Speaker 3: Yes, big pussy just died right right right.
Speaker 5: And uh.
Speaker 3: He was connected to the music business, which you know,
Speaker 3: again brushes you up against organized crime in Jersey Ny.
Speaker 3: Many did stuff in music in in Asbury Park and
Speaker 3: North Jersey and stuff. He was like a like a
Speaker 3: booking guy, a club promoter, I think an owner at
Speaker 3: one point him a couple of clubs. Vinnie, he lived
Speaker 3: tom at one point too, yeah, Big Pussy died, That's
Speaker 3: who it was.
Speaker 1: You're right, yeah, he died August first.
Speaker 3: I think, yes, yes, that's correct, right, right, right, But yeah,
Speaker 3: but sir Rico was was a legitimate you know, among
Speaker 3: the main characters. He was probably the most legitimately tied
Speaker 3: to that world among the.
Speaker 1: Character prison for extortion and a couple of other things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he was involved with loan sharks and stuff
Speaker 3: earlier in life. Yeah, but no, but but Vinnie was
Speaker 3: was a music guy at one point. Anyways, we're basically
Speaker 3: at the end of the show and Aaron is about
Speaker 3: to come on. Yeah. I got confused there for a
Speaker 3: minute though, because I was thinking sir Rico. Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: So Rico died a while ago. He died when they
Speaker 3: were still doing that Talking Sopranos podcast.
Speaker 1: I think didn't I think he didn't. He die of
Speaker 1: complications of.
Speaker 3: Of COVID COVID. I think they said, yeah, there's in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. Yeah, he was a COVID problem. But
Speaker 3: Big Pussy just died, right, yeah, right, that was his
Speaker 3: name on the show. In case anybody's wondering, But Bennie Pastori, yeah,
Speaker 3: Minnie Pastori actually worked might have been responsible for that
Speaker 3: weird knockoff of the Stone Pony down the Street, the
Speaker 3: rock Horse if I'm not. And also he was involved
Speaker 3: in a couple of strip clubs if I remember Escapades maybe.
Speaker 3: But this is like when I first started doing music
Speaker 3: in Jersey, which is you know, late eighties. Man, he
Speaker 3: was still doing that stuff and had moved on to
Speaker 3: acting a bit, was in like a bunch of B
Speaker 3: level type you know, films and stuff. Yeah, before the Sopranos.
Speaker 3: Sopranos made him big though, well.
Speaker 5: I mean everybody big that was connected to it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that was a very successful show.
Speaker 3: Well at first. The funny thing is, at first the
Speaker 3: only star that show really had was Lorena Brocco, who
Speaker 3: was who played.
Speaker 5: Uh Gandolfini wasn't. Didn't he do Blackhawk down before? Yeah,
Speaker 5: that was before the Sopranos.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but see he wasn't like, uh, he wasn't as
Speaker 3: far as his pay scale went, he was not, was right.
Speaker 3: Lorena Brocco was in Goodfellas. She played uh Karen Karen
Speaker 3: Hill in Good Fellows, the same you know, the one
Speaker 3: that plays a psychiatrist in in Sopranos. Uh. She was
Speaker 3: actually their big star. Uh you know outside of uh,
Speaker 3: the well, the one woman was from TV that played
Speaker 3: Tony's mom. She was had a pretty long running role
Speaker 3: on some show. But outside of that, I mean they
Speaker 3: they really weren't that well known. I mean, uh uh.
Speaker 3: The kid who played Christopher, he was known for Good
Speaker 3: Fellas as well because he was a spider who got
Speaker 3: shot in the foot and then they shot him in
Speaker 3: the chest. And you know that's a true story. By
Speaker 3: the way, that happened the Tommy did that. But de Simone, yeah,
Speaker 3: killed a guy one time over. It was almost like
Speaker 3: that scenario with the drake and everything apparently, and he
Speaker 3: was probably but he was probably buried in the basement
Speaker 3: at Roberts Lounge, I think. Anyways, So go ahead and
Speaker 3: give us a final word, Jimmy James, because our friend
Speaker 3: Aaron Franz is waiting to start, and now I'm three
Speaker 3: minutes late, so let's get him on so I'm not
Speaker 3: on too late with uncle and every time.
Speaker 4: All right, everyone have a good weekend piece out when
Speaker 4: ours Remember don don't wear shorts.
Speaker 3: I love that, Thank you, Jimmy. And the reason why
Speaker 3: Jimmy says that is because literally somebody corrected Gandolfini after
Speaker 3: a show aired, because they were doing a barbecue scene
Speaker 3: in the Soprano's backyard and an Italian guy that had
Speaker 3: never a Gandolfini did not recognize at all until much
Speaker 3: later as a serious mob guy. He just walked up
Speaker 3: to him and said, you know, hey, Jimmy, you're doing
Speaker 3: a good job. But one thing Don does never wear shorts,
Speaker 3: and walked away in a restaurant or a bar. That happened.
Speaker 3: I know who the guy was anyway, So I heard
Speaker 3: that story before anybody else ever did, and I thought
Speaker 3: it was funny, and so did he be Beete. Your
Speaker 3: final word for the week.
Speaker 1: Well, appreciate Jimmy calling in. I'm looking forward to doing
Speaker 1: it again next week, and you go to Chelly dot
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Speaker 3: But do what you can right now. Next week we
Speaker 3: will be doing the Thursday show. We will be joined
Speaker 3: by Larry Hancock, and there will be a pre show
Speaker 3: for Friday, whether Jimmy James does it or not. So
Speaker 3: there's gonna be at least four pieces of podcasts that
Speaker 3: come out next week. This week you get like one
Speaker 3: and a half because this one plus well two and
Speaker 3: a half this one, Aaron and Uncle and you know,
Speaker 3: and there'll be a little bonus piece that's gonna come out,
Speaker 3: but a slow week. Sorry guys. Again, I'm getting closer
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Speaker 3: I've got a little payment and I can go pick
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Speaker 3: because the material Larry Hancock sent me, I have some
Speaker 3: pretty wild, one of the kind pieces of things that
Speaker 3: I have dug up JFK wise, I'm going to offer
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Speaker 3: to go to further our efforts here. Plus I'm gonna
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Speaker 3: try and create a revenue stream off of that, and
Speaker 3: then maybe I don't have to beg you guys for
Speaker 3: money anymore.
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