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Speaker 2: Thank you, Alex. Glad to be here with the Aux
John Show for the fourth hour. It's always an honor,
and we've seen a bit of crazy stuff happens since
I last hosted. A couple of weeks ago, we had
the assassination attempt on Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty.
Speaker 2: Obvious now that that was an inside job. It was
an attempt to take him out as they said they
would do. And I want to talk about what the
root of this whole system is all about and how
one big way at least, we fix it. So I
want to go back in history a little bit to
the real Illuminati, not the coultss that claim to be
the Illuminati or the Crowley groups or whatever, but the
real Illuminati, which is the corporate secreting structure that runs
the world that we have actually textbooks from the elite
that tell us where this comes from, how they run
their system on debt and Fiat based currency. And then
I want to talk about some of the solutions, not
every it's not a total silver bullet, but I think bitcoin,
gold and silver are solutions to where we are in
this system and how far we are down the rabbit hole.
In fact, as Elon pointed out this last week, it
looks like we can't even really pay back the debts.
So it's almost like going to have to have some
kind of completely new system that is not operating on
the way the system has been running at least if
we're ever going to get out of this, and if
our taxes are only paying the interest, and they're not
even paying the.
Speaker 1: Interest, we can never pay it back now.
Speaker 2: Supposedly, if you read a lot of economic analysts, they
point out that this was actually realized in the nineteen eighties,
that the national debt could not be paid back, and
this led to a crash at the time, and that
was connected to the savings and loan scams that were
going on then. In fact, the infamous character of Jeffrey Epstein,
I don't know if you've heard him, he was actually
involved in insider trading and he and his partner got
in trouble back in the nineteen eighties. And of course
Epstein didn't get in trouble, they got caught, Epstein got away,
and I think many people think that that might have
been the point at which he was recruited into other
types of operations. But to understand all this, it might
seem like we got to learn a lot, we have
to be historians. It might be helpful to do that,
but really it's not that complicated. It can be complicated,
but it's pretty simple. It's a system that was set
up that's a giant scam. If you understand criminal operations,
if you study organized crime, if you study figures characters
that come out of the mafia world, they're a great
insight into how the system that.
Speaker 1: We're under actually works.
Speaker 2: So for example, and you've heard of me quote it
many times, and I'm not going to spend the whole
time talking about this book because I've quoted it so
many times it kind of gets old even for me.
But we go back to Carroll Quickly's Tragy and Hope.
He was the mentor to Bill Clinton. He was a
professor of military history at Georgetown. He actually describes early
on in this magisterial thirteen hundred page book, The Real Illuminati.
And you might say, well, why do you call it Illuminati,
well they call it a secret society. In fact, this
was the people who set up via the elites in
the circles of Lord Rawchild, Cecil Rhodes, Lord Milner, John Ruskin,
and others that include Arnold Toynbee, Philip Lyttleton, Lord Curtis
william Stead, a bunch.
Speaker 1: Of other lords, Lord Balfour.
Speaker 2: This is where we get, of course, the modern nation
state of Israel that was admittedly and proudly and that
the Rachells themselves said they helped to engineer the founding
of the modern state of Israel. And this was all
in the circles of what's called the Roads Trust in
the late eighteen hundreds, in the early nineteen hundreds, this
group was well aware of how to run the world
via a certain type of monetary system. This is a
monetary system that quickly goes on to discuss is the
central banking model. So it's not that there's anything necessarily
wrong with a bank, or that it's wrong to have
a national bank or a central bank of the.
Speaker 1: Nation state, but that's not what this is.
Speaker 2: This is a private central bank that goes under the
cover of being the people's bank. But as actually the
banking network of a select inner core group. That's the
real power structure. And it's very similar to the corporate
power structure and model of the British East India Company,
which was all basically the same groups of people.
Speaker 1: The model that we're under today is that model.
Speaker 2: Many of the founding fathers in America, for example, understood
this and they fought against that type of monetary policy.
They understood that he that controls the printing press or
the coinage of the money controls the nation. It doesn't
matter who the elected officials are. Ultimately, I'm not saying
it doesn't matter at all, but politicians they kind of
can come and go, but the money printing doesn't come
and go.
Speaker 1: You notice we don't that a vote on a new
way to do money. It's like, well, we already have that.
It's just there and it's what it.
Speaker 2: Is, and it works, and for many, many centuries, this
was the gold standard. The ancient world at some point
came up with this idea. Ancient emperors in the Middle
East and other places. They figured out that rare coins
or rare medals worked like jewels as a way to
exchange value to have exchange.
Speaker 1: And so gold worked very well for a long time, for.
Speaker 2: Many, many centuries as a monetary policy. But and I'm
not saying it's not infinitely superior to what we have.
Gold is still great. The Great Powers figured out as
quickling notes in the later stages of European history, in
the last five four and five hundred years, they figured
out that you could actually debase the currency, not just
in the old classic model of mixing it with different
alloys that were basically worthless to debase the currency, which
even the Roman emperors did stuff like that, You could
actually debase the currency via what they called gold notes,
and gold notes was a way to have a central
bank or a central entity make ease and comfort the
central reason why you would choose gold notes over actual
transference of gold. So if you're going to barter, it's
kind of a hassle to bring, you know, giant bad
of gold and money around and coins. It's a lot
easier to just exchange a note that represents the amount
of gold.
Speaker 1: But if these gold.
Speaker 2: Notes were issued by a central bank, and if the
central bank was not necessarily even a government or a
nation state bank, a sovereign bank was in fact a
private bank. This allowed the inner private group to create
more gold notes than there was actual gold, and unless
people didn't run on the bank or tried to claim
their gold from the bank, this really wouldn't be noticed.
And so the bank could then issue many, many more
notes than they actually had in terms of currency, in
terms of actual assets or gold, and then that would
give the banking elite tremendous amounts.
Speaker 1: Of fiat power.
Speaker 2: So basically you could just print up a zillion notes
and then with that zillion notes go buy any of
the assets in the community or the nation state. So
this is a very deceptive and tricky scam because not
only is it basically enhancing the purchasing power of an
inner click who has access to the ability to control
the issuance of these notes, you can then steal.
Speaker 1: It's basically a form of theft.
Speaker 2: It's just stealing from the rest of the society by
controlling the flow and issuance of the currency. Now gold
is a lot better as a way to stave off
this theft, you could say, when there's an actual reserve
that backs up the notes. Unfortunately, many things have happened,
not just the nineteen thirteen Federal Reserve Act, but also
the nineteen seventy one removal from the gold standard under
the Nixon administration, which I think Rogerstone I think says
something like Nixon was tricked into that. And what this
does is then it gives basically this is more of
a Canesian economic policy after Milton Kynes.
Speaker 1: It gives the.
Speaker 2: Ability for the centralized power to just infinitely print.
Speaker 1: And we've seen mainline establishment.
Speaker 2: Economists say things like, well, we can always just print
money infinitely, but of course they have to know that
you can't do that. Eventually, not just the debt, but
the interest on the debt becomes so massive that the
whole country becomes bankrupt. And that's the danger is that
we're going into that situation to where if you've noticed,
and I think in twenty twenty alone, the printing of
the money was so bad that just in one year,
the first year of COVID, the dollar was devalued.
Speaker 1: Ten percent in one year. That means in ten years it.
Speaker 2: Would be devalued, meaning that it would cost twice as
much to buy whatever you were trying to buy the
year before or the ten years before. And I think
we've seen I forget the exact numbers inflation wise, but
going back to the nineties, it's something pretty outrageous, maybe
seventy eighty percent. I mean, the cost of things since
the late nineties is tremendous, maybe even more. And it's
only going to get worse because as even Ron Paul
pointed out many many years decades ago, and the problem
will never get fixed with the system as it is.
Speaker 1: And we get a.
Speaker 2: Lot of attention and focus on that at certain times,
as Ron Paul kind of made that the focus of
his his whole policy and his whole administration and his
whole presidential run, but.
Speaker 1: People never really, they still never got it.
Speaker 2: They still were like, oh, yeah, there's that thing, and
then we get distracted by the next big thing and
the next drama, the next big event, COVID or whatever,
and that distracts us from the real root problem of
how we can never ever get out of this through
the system that we have.
Speaker 1: And although I support Trump, I like Trump a lot.
Speaker 2: I have some criticisms, but I think overall he's obviously
far better.
Speaker 1: Than anything else out there.
Speaker 2: Trump's great because Trump at least calls attention to this issue.
He does call attention to the Fidder Reserve. And now
we've seen Trump move in an even better direction, which
makes me moral pro Trump is the fact that he's
come on board with bitcoin, and he was very anti
bitcoin for many many years. And I think now that
he's understood that this is essentially a digital gold, we're
moving in the right direction. And really that's the only
way that's even feasible in my.
Speaker 1: View, out of this.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying there can't be other reserves that we
move to with gold as well. Do we even know
what's in Fort Knox or I mean, is there anything?
Speaker 1: It might be empty? Who knows, right?
Speaker 2: I mean, who knows it might be a bunch of
you know, Funko pops and plush he's in there, garbage,
Fiel kids or something.
Speaker 1: And who knows what's in Important Knox?
Speaker 2: We can't see, right, And there's never been an audit
of the Feller Reserve?
Speaker 1: Am I correct?
Speaker 2: Isn't this this what Ron Paul Ran Paul We're talking
about for so many years to my knowledge that never
ever has happened, that will it ever happen? Probably not
before this the whole thing collapses, I don't know, but
I think as Alex has pointed out all, well, not
just this week, but for years, the system is getting
more and more kind of insane because they maybe are
losing a hold on things, They're losing grip. And if
bitcoin turns out to be something that can be.
Speaker 1: A solution or part part of.
Speaker 2: A solution, as well as other things like gold and silver,
then if people start to figure that out, then maybe
that's why we're seeing this system kind of convulse and
shake and get triggered and kind of almost seem to
be doing anything that.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're sort of not thinking.
Speaker 2: They're just sort of throwing out crazy things, which means
that we might.
Speaker 1: Have war, we might have really crazy stuff happen.
Speaker 2: I expect my thesis and we'll get into some of
this in more detail later. We're probably going to see
more racial stuff roll out. I think Alex is correct
about that. Remember back to Ferguson, Remember that summer, Remember
the race riots they rolled out with these AstroTurf groups.
Speaker 1: This is when we start to see BLM roll out.
Speaker 2: I think they're probably gonna roll out that kind of
stuff again. Maybe we start to see cities burn again.
I think, you know, BLM seems to have lost a
lot of credibility.
Speaker 1: But they can just roll out another type of event like.
Speaker 2: This, and the hot topic is always racial issues. That's
what always gets people so inflamed. They're probably going to
roll out something like that. We may see another attempt,
as Alex has pointed out, Rogerstone has pointed out on
Trump again, that's another threatning their danger because that could
easily be pinned on Iran. That could be pinned on Russia.
That could say, oh, Russia, Iran, Russia and Iran together
did this, It's time to go to war. I mean,
any of these things are possibilities, but we got to
understand the.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to guess Ja Diary of Jason Olils.
Speaker 2: We're talking about the real illuminati, not the car Tunish
conspiratorial perspective without basis in the history, but the actual
banking elite structure, the Anglo American Israeli establishment, according to
doctor Carroll Quickly, and what they have planned not just
for the world, but for the world's economics system, and
how we have to understand the federal reserve banks that
are locked into the Bank for International Settlement model. Doctor
Carroll Quigley describes this on pages three, twenty four, three
twenty five or tries you hope you can see it
right here. The Bank for International Settlements model is there,
and that is the central bank for central banks, and
that is the network of banking networks that works for
this FIAT based system, and it allows the banking inter
cadre as well as the corporate elites, not just banking leads.
Speaker 1: Also the prastructure too, it allows.
Speaker 2: Them essentially to by controlling the money printing, to inflate
and deflate as they wish to. Then take the money
that they have printed, and of course there's a kind
of a complicated process of buying government bonds and then
getting the nation state into more and more debt and
so forth, and then they buy it real assets or
gold or whatever. And that's why the banking elite love gold.
And then I think now we're starting to see them
understand and figure out that, oh there's actually a non
inflatable thing that's been invented also now that's electronic, it's digital,
it's a public ledgerd on his bitcoin that.
Speaker 1: Can't be inflated or hacked or messed with. And so
maybe it's time to get in on that too.
Speaker 2: And that's why I think black Croc has now capitulated
and started to buy.
Speaker 1: Maybe they think they can buy enough to.
Speaker 2: Influence the price, but regardless, I think they've capitulated. We
saw some years back, even Rothschild Investing had admitted the
potentiality of bitcoin. All of the major entities now have
come on board to the credit, the banking and the investing,
the pension, all of these things are beginning to see
the logic of this because they formerly didn't understand it.
And I want to thank Max Kaiser because I listened
to Max on Alex many many years ago twenty eleven
twelve when he first got into bitcoin, and I was
initially skeptical, but then I started to look into it.
I listened to dozens of episodes of Max Kaiser's show
that he had on RT and I got a lot
of economic education through that. I finally understood about twenty
sixteen seventeen what this was.
Speaker 1: So there's a learning curve. It takes a long time, but.
Speaker 2: We have to understand what that is contrasted to the
system that exists now and.
Speaker 1: What they want to bring about.
Speaker 2: They want a centralized central bank digital currency, which is
very unpopular. Every time they try to talk about it
and try to roll it out, it's it's a failure,
which is good news, but they keep pushing this in
contrast to the product of the Austrian economics school, which
is bitcoin comes out of Austrian economics. It comes out
of that philosophy, which is a set against the Keynesian
soft Fabian socialist policies, or the Marxist central bank policies,
or the all of those policies, which again remember Carl
Marx said, the first thing that you have to do,
one of the planks of the communist manifesto is to
set up a central bank right that can control the
issuance of currency.
Speaker 1: And ultimately that ends up being based on debt.
Speaker 2: And when Marxism as a classical system failed reform, Marxism
took over. That's really the world system that runner now
it's called it's called Fabianism. Cain's was a Fabian socialist economist,
and so that's a kind of a soft socialism with
elements of monopoly capitalism aligned with it.
Speaker 1: That's the system that we're under.
Speaker 2: You can read books like Jon Rotteo's book about the
Millner Fabian Conspiracy. You can read The Fabian Freeway, you
can read Carol Quigley's books.
Speaker 1: You could also read classic text.
Speaker 2: Like Gevre Griffin's Creature from Jackal Island, which gets into
the history of the establishment of the federal reserve system,
and you'll understand that it's not really a conspiracy theory.
It's criminal syndicates figuring out how to organize and control
the money supply, and by doing so, you can control
the entire nation. So that's the real octopus system that
we've been under for many, many years, and it's a
very elaborate system. I remember having a dinner meeting a
year ago with a person who is a lawyer who
was involved in the what's called the Brazilian car wash scandal,
and he was down there and he consulted with the
government there and how they had prosecuted this giant criminal
racket which was holding the entire nation hosted.
Speaker 1: Now this is a very famous thing.
Speaker 2: It's well known the brazil that they made Netflix shows
about a documentaries about a Brazilian car washing scandal. And
throughout the eighties and nineties, the whole country was held
captive to this criminal system that was like a decentralized
cell network of criminals that we're controlling everything from construction
to banking to politics. And it was structured in a
very similar Ponzi scheme way to Gladio, the way Gladio
operated in Italy. And I talked to this lawyer he
was involved in it, and he said, yes, he thought
that was very perceptive that he knew of the structure
of Gladio and how Gladio worked, and then he said,
that's exactly how this was structured in a very similar way. Well,
the banking system that we're under is structured in that
way too, So we needn't think that we always have
this bias. We think, oh aha, that's some other country
down there where everybody's poor.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's the same system here.
Speaker 2: We're just not as far down the road as those
horror Latin and South American countries are who have the
same debt based centralized banking models.
Speaker 1: And what these entities do.
Speaker 2: What these banking entities when they're set up these schemes,
these systems, they rob not just the immediate population from
the purchasing power that they have through their currency, It
robs future generations. I think that's the key thing that
people miss, is that when you deflate the currency, you're
actually stealing from the future generations. The same thing occurs when,
for example, a nation or a power block loses a war.
We saw this after World War One and.
Speaker 1: World War two.
Speaker 2: The banking elite come in and they restructure how that
losing nation will pay back the debt, and it basically
puts the nation into debt for decades into the future,
maybe even a century, So you're essentially never out of debt.
And I think a lot of people have a hard
time except that this is how the world is actually run.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: There's not every nation in the world is not run
this way, but most of the world is transitioning into this.
But you see that it's essentially a black hole of
debt that eventually eats everything and the whole system eventually collapses.
You get the you know what is it, the Zimbabwean dollar,
which they started printing, you know, billion dollar notes, where
a billion dollar note buys you, I don't know, a
loave of bread or something. That's because of this model. Eventually,
it just eventually the currency just deflates into being worth
with nothing. And again we should understand that the dollar
is that system now and it has been on that
track for a long time. So when people like Hillary
say that bitcoin is a threat to the dollar, the
dollar is its own worst enemy, because the dollar left
any kind of hard standard.
Speaker 1: That's the problem.
Speaker 2: It's not other things competing against it. It's that the
whole model was always a manipulatable model, at least when
it was on the gold standard.
Speaker 1: It was a lot harder to manipulate.
Speaker 2: Theoretically, Yes, gold can be manipulated through third parties.
Speaker 1: It can be manipulated.
Speaker 2: Through mining and finding more gold and then dumping that
on the market, which inflates or do you give me deflates.
Speaker 1: I mean it's good.
Speaker 2: It inflates the price because the price goes down because
there's more gold out there.
Speaker 1: So you can dump gold so that there's always more
gold that can be mined.
Speaker 2: But it's not that way with a uniquely super fixed
asset like bitcoin, So I think again, the great the
good news here is that Trump will be speaking tomorrow
at the.
Speaker 1: Bitcoin Nashville conference. I'm here for that conference. I'll be there.
Maybe I'll get to talk to him or Max Kaiser
or something. I don't know. I'll try to record something
for Info Wars if I can get a hold of
Max or somebody.
Speaker 2: But that's the point here, is that every other currency
in the history of the world was always Even though
gold is great and it's something that can be part
of a basket of reserves, it can still be mined
and still you can still have more of it. But
if there's an asset that could never have you can
never have more of. That's the ultimate fixed hard money.
That's what we mean by hard money, meaning that it
can't be inflated. And in history, in human history, every
asset has been inflatable. Now the system is pushing, for example,
things like central bank digital currencies CBDCs, and that's going
to be probably my guess would be I don't know,
but there might be say an economic collapse in the
next year or five years or something like that, some
bad economic scenario when these banks are collapsing as they
are and we're not being told what's actually going on,
they're covering up a lot of that economic I think information.
Speaker 1: Then they're going to say, well.
Speaker 2: Look, you know, the capitalism and the existing system destroyed us.
Look how bad it is. So what we're going to
do is we're going to roll out this new thing,
central bank digital currency, and we're going to offer this
through whatever means I don't know how they'll do it,
and you'll get maybe a UBI, they'll.
Speaker 1: Offer some kind of thing like that.
Speaker 2: Again, all these big tech Silicon Valley people have been
pushing and flirting with this idea. Remember who was a Yang, Yangyang,
and Yang was pushing cbdc UBI and of course it
always fails because people think, well this is they're just
not into that yet. We even had the guy from
the Bank for the National Settlements, the guy with the
triple chin, that came on and said that they want
to roll out this CBDC wallet and he literally says
in the clip where every transaction that you make will
be tracked and traced and if you do anything that
we don't like, we'll turn it off. I mean, it's
kind of odd that that was his selling point.
Speaker 1: It's odd that he.
Speaker 2: Would be that honest, because I would think if you
were going to try to sell that, you might want
to I don't know, at least lie about it and
say something else. But now you just flat out says no,
we're going to turn off your wallet when you say
something that we don't like.
Speaker 1: And that's the system that they want. That's why no.
Speaker 2: Javal Harari says that bitcoin is a system based on distrust,
and you want a system based on trust, so we
need some other type of digital currency. Well, they're saying
that because they don't control that. It's decentralized and the
world I can performance put.
Speaker 1: Out lists in the past.
Speaker 2: A few years ago, they put out a list of
the cryptocurrencies that they want as potentials for the future CBDC,
or they'll try to come out with something of their own.
But the good news is that it keeps failing and
nobody wants that. But the problem isn't digital currency itself.
The problem isn't having this objective, math based system.
Speaker 1: That's what we want. We just don't want a centralized
system like they're pushing. That's the key here. This is
why El Salvador, for example, has been very successful.
Speaker 2: Through Buklet and the policies that Max Kaiser has been
promoting and pushing there.
Speaker 1: As one example.
Speaker 2: So A Salvador's leading the way for nation states to
begin to adopt this. I mean, ultimately, we don't want
governments trying to control this, but they're going to eventually
capitulate because they're going to realize that the real black hole,
so to speak, is that bitcoin will eat up all
of the assets. People will start to realize that even
owning land is not as good as bitcoin. I'm not
saying you can't own land. I'm just saying, from the
vantage point of successful assets, what will give you the
best returns and what will have future value for example,
if I own land in a place that's a blue city,
and the blue city decides they don't like my politics
and what I say my land doesn't.
Speaker 1: Do me much good.
Speaker 2: But if I have my wallet and my seed phrase
and all that information in my head, I can go
anywhere and it's still good, it's still usable.
Speaker 1: You see the genius of this.
Speaker 2: And people just still haven't figured this out, because I
still when I talk about this, I get hundreds of
comments of people tell telling me that this is a scam,
this is created by the CIA, and with no actual
proof of that, they're just saying what they've heard media
idiots say. The media idiots don't know anything about economics.
If they did, they would be on board with this stuff,
or they would have big gold assets.
Speaker 1: And reserves, which they don't have.
Speaker 2: Those are people that believe and trust the system, who
tell you who've lied for the last thirty years in
the media non stop every day. But you're going to
listen to them when they say that bitcoin is a
Ponzi scheme. And all the people who thought it was
a Ponzi scheme five, six, seven, eight, ten years ago
have now converted to liking it, even to the banking scammers,
even the JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs people are now by
the way, they were buying it when they.
Speaker 1: Were telling people not to buy it.
Speaker 2: So again, why would you believe anything that these people
say about these revolutionary, disruptive technologies. So what they want
is a federal reserve FIAT.
Speaker 1: Model that's electronic.
Speaker 2: And if you just understand the basics, you understand that, Well,
the bitcoin is the opposite of that. It's not that
it's decentralized, it's a fixed supply, it's not inflatable. They
want an inflatable does punch in more digits and create
out of thin air infinite whatever, crypto, infinite, cbdc coin, bedcoin, whatever.
So the federal reserve model, it's very similar to the FTX.
Remember when FTX collapsed, people thought, oh, that's bitcoin. That
has nothing to do with bitcoin. That's totally different. That
was a big, like DNC kind of money.
Speaker 1: Laundering scheme, is what it allegedly looks like.
Speaker 2: Right, Remember how the banking elites in the two thousand
and eight collapse, how they were pushing the notion that
the banks deserve to be bailed out, and this eventually
robbed everybody well, this was actually stamped into the original
If I recall the Genesis block, the first Bitcoin block,
there's actually a co message in there about how bitcoin
was created out of the Austrian economic philosophy to counteract
the theft that occurred through the housing crisis and the
scammery of the banking bailouts, and that why not have
a solution via a public digital, decentralized chain that you
can buy into so to speak, and have your state
property on that chain so to speak, in cyberspace where
store where there's a store of value that doesn't lose.
Speaker 1: Its value over time.
Speaker 2: If you think about energy, if you think about it
from the vantage point of engineering. I'm not an engineer,
but people like Michael Saylor, who are engineers, they explained
this very well. They explain that in the conservation of
energy is one of the challenges in physics, and it's
a challenge when you apply that to economics and to
trade and to barter and to money, because money ends
up always getting devalued over time.
Speaker 1: This is the key point that I want to make.
Speaker 2: And if you look at for a really good introduction
book on this, one of my friends, her name is
Julia she's been on with Alex before. Julia Toroonski, she
wrote a book with some other people like Robert Breedlove
on this issue, Thank God for Bitcoin, and the premise
of her book and their book is a little different
because it's not just a boring kind of economic text.
It's actually arguing that in Biblical theology, there are a
lot of money principles that would eliminate what we're talking about.
So the Bible, for example, talks about gold quite a bit,
and it talks about in Problebs eleven, the unfair imbalanced scales,
or an abomination to the Lord. The Book of Micah
talks about the devaluation and diluting of gold.
Speaker 1: As something that is a problem.
Speaker 2: Your goal is is dross or your silver is dross
and diluted.
Speaker 1: Other texts I think in Isaiah speaking in a similar.
Speaker 2: Vein, and this shows that the nation state or the
country and in this case Israel, right, they were losing
power and influence in their monetary system through corruption. And
we're in the same situation where the dollar is losing
purchasing power. We're losing that because of this central bank
Fiat model corruption, and we're in the digital age, so
I think we need something that is appropriate to the
digital a. It doesn't look like this is going to
be going away anytime soon. I don't think that they
created all this infrastructure, especially since they want to have
CBDC and skynet. They're not going to blast us back
to little House on the Prairie. They didn't do all
this to put us back in, you know, Michael Landon times,
We're not going to go to little House on the Prairie.
We're not going to go back to conquistadors. You know,
with a chests of the balloons, you can have your
chest to balloon the balloons. I do, I do think
it's wise to do that, to have gold and silver
and other assets.
Speaker 1: So I'm not anti ascid.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that it also makes the most sense
to have the best performing asset in the last ten years,
which is a bitcoin, above all the others.
Speaker 1: Why would you not?
Speaker 2: And this book argues not just from an economic standpoint,
but from an ethics in a religious standpoint, that we
should have honest, ethical money, and certainly gold is far
more far closer to that than anything that we have
today with CBDCs or whatever.
Speaker 1: But the ability to.
Speaker 2: Store value over time so that it doesn't lose that
energy and that storage, so to speak, in a symbolic way,
is akin to an invention like the internet itself or
the printing press. I don't think people have figured out
yet that that's what bitcoin is. It is the solution
too human monetary problems. And once that clicks, once you
understand that, then you understand, oh, this is actually like
the printing press.
Speaker 1: This is like the discovery of gold coinage.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's that level. But most people have not
figured that out yet. So it's true that bitcoin is expensive,
but you're still very early because it's only a matter
of time. And now the big money players have figured
that out. So if you were ahead of these people,
you were way ahead. And that's why Max Kuiser pushes
it so much. And it's not like money is the
only solution to all mankind's problems. There's mankind's fallen and
so he's going to have problems beyond just the monetary sphere.
Always just having a butt it does alleviate and fix
a lot of problems to have something like that, because
money was always, for example, to be money, you needed
something that was divisible, You needed something portable.
Speaker 1: You needed something durable, you needed.
Speaker 2: Something that was recognizable, and the most important would be scarcity.
All of those things are necessary for something to count
as money, and humans have used all kinds of things.
Speaker 1: Beads, shells, gold, coins, All of those things have been used.
Speaker 2: But of course the problem is that many of those
things can be inflated. For example, if Indians use glass
beads as currency, if a European shows up and he
can create glass beads, well, then he can buy everything
up with his infinite glass beads.
Speaker 1: You see.
Speaker 2: So scarcity is the key, that's the most important thing.
That's why the currencies in the history of man kind
of always failed, even though gold is the best. The
reason that gold fails is nothing. No problem with gold itself.
It will always be precious, it will always be valuable
and rare in my view. But the problem is that
the central bank can mix that gold and dilute it.
It can create it can debase that currency with mixed
alloys or whatever. It can use gold notes as we
saw a minute ago, with quickly to deflate that currency
and then have that immense power to then buy everything
out because they control the printing press, right and then
they can thus control the nation state or the empire.
And many empires in fact, in history have fallen from
these very economic issues that we're talking about.
Speaker 1: Not just wars.
Speaker 2: In fact, wars oftentimes, not always, but oftentimes come about
because the state, the emperor, the king is in debt
and he's debased his currency, and so he's going to
have to go to war to try.
Speaker 1: To save the economy.
Speaker 2: So if the the monetary system was fixed, and it
is possible to fix it, there's a lot of forces
who don't want to fix it, but that doesn't mean
it's not possible.
Speaker 1: It is possible.
Speaker 2: But before you if you fix the monetary policy, it
is conceivable that there might be a lot less war. Again,
it's not saying that there will always there's be some utopia.
I'm not saying that. But to fix it would mean
that there would be nation states would not have as
much impetus to go to war to solve economic problems,
and that's where we are.
Speaker 1: We might be in this situation because of an economic clan.
Speaker 2: They might go to war because the dollar is collapsing,
and that's the easiest way to try to fix the
economic problems. All governments in history end up debasing their currency,
whether through the theft known as diluting the currency with
mixed alloys, or through gold notes, or through money printing
and inflation. But this last point I want to talk about,
which is very key, which is what's called network effects.
When certain rulers started using gold, they then influenced other
nations to start to use gold and coinage. Right in
the ancient world, when coinage caught on, then all the
nations were using gold. So gold became a network that
people were using as their currency. It's called a network effect.
And the more people that were using gold, the better
it was for everyone and for that whole gold.
Speaker 1: Network, so to speak. We're in an age.
Speaker 2: Now when everything is dominated by information networks via the Internet,
So doesn't it make sense that the most ease and
the biggest network.
Speaker 1: Would be utilizing a form of money.
Speaker 2: That's what bitcoin is, and it's already there, It's already
been here for many many years, and it makes the
most sense that that's a future. I will be at
the Bitcoin conference today and tomorrow hopefully I'll see you there,
and I'm looking forward to Trump's speech as well as
Russell Brand, Max Kaiser, Snowden, many others will be there.
If you want to support me, you can go to
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