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So yesterday we had ap Dylan on from 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,479 the North State Journal and she's the publisher of her 11 00:00:37,439 --> 00:00:41,920 newsletter More to the story, and we mentioned it that 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,119 the Democrats up in Raleigh were doing a press conference 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,079 or did a press conference yesterday, and it was a 14 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,560 mock funeral that they did. I mean that's what they 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,640 called it. They called it some sort of a funeral 16 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,479 for all the dead bills, like pieces of legislation. Not 17 00:01:01,479 --> 00:01:07,319 people named William, but all the dead legislation that languish 18 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:12,840 is now in eternity in the in committee they were filed, 19 00:01:12,879 --> 00:01:16,239 They never got committee hearings, they never got discussions, they 20 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:22,719 never got votes. Woe is the Democrats. Democratic state lawmakers 21 00:01:22,719 --> 00:01:26,560 branded it a bill funeral. This is a piece at 22 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:31,920 wr L by Laura Leslie. Believe she is their chief 23 00:01:32,159 --> 00:01:38,319 capital correspondent or something like that. She's been there for gosh, 24 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,799 probably twenty years. But the eulogy gave way to a 25 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:50,400 free wheeling complaint session. There's another word for a complaint session. Yeah, 26 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,079 I'm not going to say it, but you know what 27 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,719 that word is, Okay, But a free wheeling complaint session 28 00:01:55,799 --> 00:02:01,280 for leaders in the legislative minority who lamented wayne bipartisanship 29 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:06,000 in the General Assembly. Right, this is always funny to me, 30 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:12,560 Like you're gonna run hundreds of bills in the legislature 31 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,199 when you are in the minority and you don't have 32 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,639 any sense of what the majority is going to be 33 00:02:19,719 --> 00:02:23,039 with you on. So you're gonna run all these bills 34 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,520 and none of them are going to go anywhere, and 35 00:02:26,879 --> 00:02:29,560 you're going to blame it on a lack of bipartisanship. 36 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,840 Could it be? And I'm just spitballing here. I've never 37 00:02:33,879 --> 00:02:37,199 been an elected official, but I'm just gonna throw this 38 00:02:37,319 --> 00:02:41,400 out there as a potential reason is that they don't 39 00:02:41,439 --> 00:02:45,240 agree with your policies. I feel like that might be 40 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:50,319 the reason they disagree with your proposal. It's not a 41 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,599 matter of bipartisanship. It's that you don't have the votes, 42 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,840 and you either don't know how to count votes, or 43 00:02:56,879 --> 00:02:59,000 maybe you just don't know how to count. But I suspect, 44 00:02:59,039 --> 00:03:01,199 I'm gonna be charitable, don't know how to count the votes. 45 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,639 Because if you can count votes ahead of time, then 46 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,520 why bother submitting the bill? Because if you know there 47 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:13,680 are not votes for your particular bill, then why even bother? Oh, 48 00:03:13,879 --> 00:03:16,919 unless of course you want to hold a news conference 49 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,639 at the end of the bill filing period and lament 50 00:03:20,879 --> 00:03:25,199 how the Republicans vote here hundreds of our bills, even 51 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,639 though hundreds of your bills were garbage and they did 52 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,879 not and they did not have majority support. Right, it's 53 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,159 not a matter of them not hearing you. It's a 54 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:40,560 matter of them disagreeing with you. Also going to throw 55 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,400 this out there too, This is just another idea I'm having. 56 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:50,919 But time is limited. We actually mark this with like 57 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,400 things called seconds and minutes and hours and days and 58 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,400 weeks and months and years and all of that. And 59 00:03:57,319 --> 00:04:01,400 these are finite periods of time. And so when you 60 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:07,560 load the agenda with a thousand bills, you don't have 61 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,639 the time to actually hear every single bill. You can't 62 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,960 do debates on every single bill that gets filed, because 63 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,480 anybody can file a bill, and people file really stupid ones. 64 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,360 And when Republicans file stupid ones, they make the news. 65 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,360 Democrats file a ton of stupid ones too, they never 66 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:32,319 make the news. The memorial quote unquote, which a news 67 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:37,040 conference in reality, was for the seven hundred and seven 68 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,279 proposals filed by Democrats this year that never received a 69 00:04:41,399 --> 00:04:46,120 single committee hearing before the legislative deadline to pass their 70 00:04:46,199 --> 00:04:48,680 chamber of origin. So this is you've heard me talk 71 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,439 about crossover. This is it's not music related, although maybe 72 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,160 sometimes if it's like state song or something. But no 73 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,800 crossover means bills filed in the House have to get 74 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,879 through through committees, through the House vote, and sent over 75 00:05:03,199 --> 00:05:06,560 crossed over to the Senate, and the Senate filed bills 76 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,000 have to do the same. They have to cross over 77 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,040 by the deadline, and that's the crossover deadline, and that 78 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,040 already passed, and so if it doesn't cross over, then 79 00:05:15,079 --> 00:05:19,040 the bill is basically dead. However, however, there is another 80 00:05:19,079 --> 00:05:21,519 way that you can still get stuff done if you 81 00:05:21,639 --> 00:05:24,879 have the votes. Once again, there's that thing having the votes. Right, 82 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,319 it's called well, they call it gut and amend. That's 83 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,639 what the legislators and the media call it, gut and demand. 84 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,680 I prefer gutt and stuff because it sounds better. So 85 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,800 you take a bill that's already crossed over, you gut it, 86 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,199 like you rip out all of the all of the 87 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,120 language of the bill that passed, and you stuff it 88 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,720 full of another bill completely unrelated maybe, and then it 89 00:05:49,759 --> 00:05:52,199 has to get debated again and agreed upon again and 90 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,959 voted on again and all that. So there is a 91 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,879 way to do that. Very difficult if you were in 92 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,319 the minority, because once again you don't have the votes 93 00:06:00,399 --> 00:06:02,680 to pull a gut and stuff all right. 94 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:02,959 Speaker 2: So. 95 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: On the numbers, I was informed by a person who 96 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,759 works up at the legislature that the numbers are actually 97 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:19,240 thus oney. Eleven House bills were filed, two hundred and 98 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:24,040 sixty four were passed by the House. There are three 99 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,920 hundred two House bills still sitting in the House Rules Committee. 100 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:34,839 About sixty six of those bills are gop bills. Okay, 101 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:40,800 so it definitely it definitely seems like Democrats filed a 102 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:45,399 metric buttload of bills that had no chance of going anywhere. 103 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,160 And I'm not one to ascribe motive, but it is 104 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,079 pretty convenient. Now they have a press conference of a 105 00:06:53,160 --> 00:07:00,000 funeral for all their dead bills. So the chambers passed 106 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:03,199 hundreds of GOP backed bills before the crossover deadline. Both 107 00:07:03,319 --> 00:07:10,240 chambers Democrats introduced real solutions. According to Senator Lisa Grafstein, 108 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,720 a Democrat from Wake County, she of the really weird 109 00:07:13,759 --> 00:07:19,759 colored hair. She says, they introduced real solutions for fixing 110 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,279 what ails us in state government, hiring critical staff, cutting 111 00:07:24,319 --> 00:07:28,639 red tape, investing in the infrastructure behind state services. But 112 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,000 Republicans actually didn't want to fix it, or, as I 113 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:39,000 suggested earlier, it's possible they disagreed with your proposals and 114 00:07:39,079 --> 00:07:40,959 there's not enough time to hear them all, and you 115 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,759 don't have the votes to pass them, so why waste 116 00:07:43,839 --> 00:07:48,199 everybody's time. Five months into the session, state lawmakers have 117 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,199 only sent one bill so far to Democrat Governor Josh Stein. 118 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,199 That was the disaster relief bill, which was signed into 119 00:07:54,279 --> 00:07:57,759 law in March. Now they've also the legislators have also 120 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,680 been working on the budget, and they do a two 121 00:07:59,759 --> 00:08:02,040 year budget. It's a very big budget. It's like twenty 122 00:08:02,079 --> 00:08:05,920 five billion dollars or whatever it is. It's large or no, 123 00:08:05,959 --> 00:08:07,759 it may be over thirty now, yeah, I think it's 124 00:08:07,879 --> 00:08:12,040 over thirty billion. So that's the primary focus of the 125 00:08:12,079 --> 00:08:14,680 long session. They do a whole bunch of work and 126 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,639 then you know, crossover deadline. They're not done. They're going 127 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,560 to be going for another couple months here. Senate Democratic 128 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:26,720 Leader Sidney Batch called the session one of the most unproductive, 129 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:33,279 ineffective legislatures in modern history, which is surprising because I 130 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:35,399 would think, is the minority party that disagrees with the 131 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,440 majority party, you wouldn't want them to do a lot 132 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,200 of stuff. Right, The fewer bills they actually pass, I 133 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,080 would assume, the happier you would be. Why would you 134 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,360 be demanding that they do Oh, you're demanding they do 135 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,159 stuff you want them to do. Well, there's a there's 136 00:08:50,159 --> 00:08:53,919 a way to go about getting that stuff done is 137 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,000 for you to win. Batch said that the Senate has 138 00:08:57,039 --> 00:09:00,559 taken more bills on social issues this year than ever before. 139 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,080 See so it's not enough, while also being too much. 140 00:09:05,159 --> 00:09:09,200 Thank you Sidney Batch for that clarity. She also represents 141 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,759 Wait County and too many bills and not enough bills. 142 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,799 All right, So spring is here, a time of renewal 143 00:09:16,879 --> 00:09:21,399 and celebrations. You've got graduations, weddings, anniversaries and the special 144 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,000 days for mom and dad. Your family's making memories that 145 00:09:24,039 --> 00:09:25,960 are going to last a lifetime. But let me ask 146 00:09:26,039 --> 00:09:29,519 you are all of those treasured moments from days gone by? 147 00:09:29,799 --> 00:09:33,279 Are they hidden away on old VCR tapes, eight millimeter films, 148 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,759 photos slides? 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And honestly, it does make a 168 00:10:46,159 --> 00:10:49,399 little bit more sense, like to close out a three 169 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,320 to six, you know, because like the six o'clock going 170 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,320 into right up at six o'clock, you know, five p 171 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,480 forty five timeframe, most people getting off of work at 172 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:03,559 that time. Yeah, but now I'm all my calendar is 173 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,759 all out of whack, which is weird given my last name, 174 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:08,000 even though it's not the same spelling. But it's all 175 00:11:08,039 --> 00:11:10,240 out of whack because I was off on Monday, and 176 00:11:10,279 --> 00:11:12,960 so I keep feeling like today is Tuesday. 177 00:11:12,519 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: You know. 178 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: So anyway, talking about some Raleigh action or inaction, which 179 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,879 is what Democrats want but don't want all at the 180 00:11:22,919 --> 00:11:25,759 same time. But there is a bill that actually went 181 00:11:25,799 --> 00:11:29,200 through the Senate forty seven to zero, a bipartisan bill. 182 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:33,159 The thing that Democrats said doesn't happen, actually happens. It 183 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:38,200 actually happens quite regularly. This bill was approved in the 184 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,120 Senate forty seven to zero. The bill, moving through the 185 00:11:42,159 --> 00:11:46,240 North Carolina General Assembly, could limit the power of Homeowners' 186 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,440 Associations across the state or hoa's or as I call them, hoa's. 187 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,840 Senate Bill three seventy eight, passed forty seven to zero, 188 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,919 now heads over to the House. If approved, the bill 189 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:04,360 would place a cap on HOAH fines. So if you're 190 00:12:04,399 --> 00:12:08,519 in violation for something and the HOA finds you for 191 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,720 it first, that usually they give you, well they should 192 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,240 give you the opportunity to correct the issue right and 193 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,960 then if you don't correct it, then you get brought 194 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,320 into a hearing, and the HOA board holds a hearing 195 00:12:23,399 --> 00:12:25,639 and then they make a ruling if you're in violation, 196 00:12:25,759 --> 00:12:28,559 and then they start assessing fines and people are like, 197 00:12:28,639 --> 00:12:30,279 I'm not going to do that, or maybe it's an 198 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,039 absentee landlord or something, and so they don't show up 199 00:12:33,039 --> 00:12:35,600 for the hearing. Maybe it's a tenant that is in 200 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:40,559 violation or something, and it starts racking up fines. And 201 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,080 this would put a cap on the fines because people 202 00:12:45,159 --> 00:12:49,039 could end up owing thousands or even tens of thousands 203 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,279 of dollars to the HOA, and then they could put 204 00:12:52,279 --> 00:12:54,440 a lean on the property. So if you try to 205 00:12:54,519 --> 00:12:57,799 sell the house, then you would have to pay off 206 00:12:57,919 --> 00:13:02,159 the fines first. And so you could conceive of a 207 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,320 situation where somebody has been racking up fines for years 208 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,639 and years and then they go to sell and they 209 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:15,200 can't sell the house for more than the fines. It 210 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:20,519 would also prevent foreclosures. It would ban for closures over 211 00:13:20,919 --> 00:13:26,080 unpaid HOA fines, so the HOA could not basically seize 212 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:31,360 your property. Now, I like the idea, the concept behind 213 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,159 this stuff, because I imagine you could have some completely 214 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:41,480 out of control HOA boards. I've never had, well, let's 215 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,519 put a pin in that one. I've never had a 216 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:49,360 resident controlled HOA board that behaved in this kind of 217 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,879 a way. So I don't know what that process would 218 00:13:53,919 --> 00:13:56,320 look like. The only thing that I ever got in 219 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,840 trouble for I've lived in two hoa's, one currently, one 220 00:14:00,919 --> 00:14:06,919 previously and the previous one. Like they said, you got 221 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,440 weeds in your yard, and so I went out and 222 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,600 pulled weeds in my front yard and that was it. 223 00:14:14,039 --> 00:14:19,080 Current hoa, we got a warning because my garbage cans 224 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,759 were on the side of the house and they were 225 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,320 visible from the street. And that is a no. No, 226 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,080 you're not allowed to have good We are not allowed 227 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,320 to produce garbage. We get the cans, we pay for 228 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,399 service and all of that, like the garbage collection. However, 229 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,399 you're not allowed to let anybody know that you actually 230 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,000 generate trash in your house. So you have to screen 231 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,240 the garbage cans from view. They can't be visible from 232 00:14:45,279 --> 00:14:47,639 your neighbor's house, they can't be visible from the street. 233 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,320 So basically you got to put them in like a 234 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:56,240 garbage can corral, and there are specifications for what that 235 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,960 is supposed to look like. Or you could put them 236 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,639 in a shed. Haha. No, you can't put them in 237 00:15:00,639 --> 00:15:02,679 the shed because sheds are banned too, So you got 238 00:15:02,679 --> 00:15:04,120 to put them in your garage. And that's where my 239 00:15:04,159 --> 00:15:07,399 garbage cans live. They live in the garage, which also 240 00:15:07,799 --> 00:15:10,480 requires us to put the little wall plug ins to 241 00:15:10,559 --> 00:15:14,080 keep it fragrant in the garage because otherwise in the summertime, yeah, 242 00:15:14,279 --> 00:15:18,279 it would get pretty bad at any rate. I can 243 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:24,720 see how these the fines in the foreclosures. I can 244 00:15:24,759 --> 00:15:28,960 see why or how rather that would that would be 245 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:34,080 abused by out of control HOA boards. However, there's another 246 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,080 side to this, which is how do you get people 247 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,960 to comply with things, like when they are in gross violation, 248 00:15:40,559 --> 00:15:43,639 Like somebody has piled up a whole bunch of like 249 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,360 dilapidated vehicles in the front yard and that just happens 250 00:15:47,399 --> 00:15:49,559 to be next door to you. Right, they're running a 251 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,320 junk yard basically in their front yard, and that's against 252 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,240 the rules. So they would start getting fines, but now 253 00:15:55,279 --> 00:15:59,360 you can never actually force them to correct the behavior, right, 254 00:16:00,879 --> 00:16:04,240 So there's the other side of this issue. It also 255 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:09,240 this legislation would also ban hoas from finding people who 256 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:14,200 run home businesses like music lessons or tutoring services, which 257 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,440 I feel like that's appropriate, Like you should not be 258 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,600 you should not be prevented from offering piano lessons in 259 00:16:21,639 --> 00:16:25,080 your house, Like that's as long as it's not at 260 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:26,960 like three in the morning and can be heard by 261 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,960 all your neighbors, Like that's you can't be banning that 262 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:36,320 kind of stuff. However, there are parts of this bill 263 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,840 I think that don't go far enough. All Right, if 264 00:16:39,879 --> 00:16:41,639 you're listening to this show, you know I try to 265 00:16:41,679 --> 00:16:43,480 keep up with all sorts of current events, and I 266 00:16:43,519 --> 00:16:45,720 know you do too. And you've probably heard me say 267 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,879 get your news from multiple sources. Why well, because it's 268 00:16:49,919 --> 00:16:52,600 how you detect media bias, which is why I've been 269 00:16:52,639 --> 00:16:56,200 so impressed with ground News. It's an app and it's 270 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,159 a website, and it combines news from around the world 271 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,639 in one place. You can compare coverage and verify information. 272 00:17:02,919 --> 00:17:06,559 You can check it out at check dot ground, dot news, 273 00:17:07,039 --> 00:17:10,160 slash pete. 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Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, 283 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,799 but it also supports ground News as they make the 284 00:17:41,839 --> 00:17:47,599 media landscape more transparent. Talking about out of control Hoah's 285 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:54,160 Hoa's legislation moving through the general Assembly right now would 286 00:17:54,599 --> 00:17:59,680 seek to rain them in and their abuses, from banning 287 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:05,079 foreclosures over unpaid fines, placing a cap on those fines, 288 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,400 banning hoas from finding people who run home businesses like 289 00:18:09,519 --> 00:18:13,799 music lessons or tutoring services. And according to Charles Williams 290 00:18:13,799 --> 00:18:17,039 with the North Carolina Citizens for HOA Reform, the state 291 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,960 still has a long way to go, but he says 292 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,960 this is a step in the right direction. He said, quote, 293 00:18:22,759 --> 00:18:25,359 there is not a single agency in this state that 294 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,519 has oversight of the HOA industry. So if you have 295 00:18:28,599 --> 00:18:31,920 a problem, there's really no place as a homeowner for 296 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,759 you to go. We have some of the weakest HOA 297 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,839 laws in the country. Anybody who has done battle with 298 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:44,160 an HOA in North Carolina knows this. There is nowhere 299 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:49,039 to go. Let me get to Greg real quick here. Hello, Greg, 300 00:18:49,079 --> 00:18:50,039 welcome to the program. 301 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,319 Speaker 3: Hey yeah, good question. 302 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:52,799 Speaker 2: All right. 303 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 3: I'm in real estate and if I managed property, you 304 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,559 have to have a real state license be a broker 305 00:18:59,559 --> 00:19:04,000 in charge. There's no law that requires does has changed 306 00:19:04,039 --> 00:19:07,640 the law that requires HOA management company to have a 307 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,079 broker in charge so that there's some recourse that you 308 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,240 could go to the North Carolina Real Estate Commission. 309 00:19:14,319 --> 00:19:16,839 Speaker 1: If you have a problem, I don't know. I don't 310 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:21,680 know if if that is in this bill, I can 311 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,640 go check. I don't remember seeing it. Yeah, I mean 312 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,799 it's like twelve pages long. I read it a couple 313 00:19:27,759 --> 00:19:30,880 of days back. I don't recall seeing anything about that. 314 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,160 But that's not to say that it wasn't in there 315 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,000 or doesn't it. And you're saying that this does not 316 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,200 exist at the moment. 317 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,279 Speaker 3: No, anybody off the street could just start an HOA 318 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,000 management company and if you can talk at HOA management 319 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:50,000 board to hire you, right, And and then that's why 320 00:19:50,039 --> 00:19:52,279 you get so many letters, because they make money by 321 00:19:52,319 --> 00:19:53,000 each letter. 322 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: So that has not been my experience there. We're actually 323 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,559 our h OA is now abandoning it because it's too expensive, right, 324 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:06,119 It's too expensive to the homeowners that are paying for 325 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,160 the postage. It's a separate line item in the budget. 326 00:20:09,599 --> 00:20:12,319 And the more letters that they send, and especially in 327 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,160 a neighborhood as big as mine, I don't know. Do 328 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,559 you live in an HOA now now much better? 329 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:19,279 Speaker 2: Right? No? 330 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: I understand that. But part of the problem in North 331 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,960 Carolina is that a lot of builders believe that they 332 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,920 have to do hoa's as part of a Planned Community 333 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,759 Act provision in existing law, and they don't have to, 334 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,240 but they do it so they can maintain total control 335 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,559 during the build. And that is because when you're building 336 00:20:39,599 --> 00:20:42,119 a neighborhood, the builder is the HOA. 337 00:20:43,799 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. I work for a builder. 338 00:20:45,039 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that to me is a huge problem. That's 339 00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:51,200 that's been my experience that that is a huge problem 340 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,359 because the builder then can make mistakes, do shoddy work, 341 00:20:55,759 --> 00:21:00,599 and then offload the costs of repairing to the homeowners 342 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,440 when they should have been the ones held accountable. But 343 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,039 because it's them, they're not going to hold themselves accountable 344 00:21:07,079 --> 00:21:07,880 unless they choose to. 345 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 3: My boss made a new neighborhood and she bought the 346 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,759 first lot and she cut it out of the neighborhood 347 00:21:16,799 --> 00:21:20,079 so it wouldn't be intohoa. Wow, she ran too. 348 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: Unbelievable actually, very believable in this state. Very believable. Yeah, Greg, 349 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,480 I appreciate the call. I'll take a look and see 350 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:35,039 about the real estate. Say license, I'll take a look. 351 00:21:36,039 --> 00:21:40,599 Next up is Gary Hello, Gary, Hello, Yo, what's up. 352 00:21:41,599 --> 00:21:47,039 Speaker 4: Well, I'm dealing with hoa's. I found something that shut 353 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:52,480 them up and made them leave me alone. I found 354 00:21:52,519 --> 00:21:57,240 out that the HOA whenever it was established, did not 355 00:21:57,519 --> 00:22:02,759 complete all of its paperwork all those years ago, and 356 00:22:02,839 --> 00:22:08,440 so the state threatened to shut down the HOA. And 357 00:22:08,519 --> 00:22:11,880 so that's something that if people have problems with hoa's 358 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,279 they might want to check into. 359 00:22:13,559 --> 00:22:15,799 Speaker 1: That's I'm assuming you're talking about the declaration. 360 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, the HOA itself, whenever it filed with 361 00:22:22,039 --> 00:22:26,559 the state to be an entity, they did not complete 362 00:22:26,599 --> 00:22:27,480 all the paperwork. 363 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: So that was that the builder or was that when 364 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,200 homeowners took over? 365 00:22:34,079 --> 00:22:35,279 Speaker 4: When homeowners took over? 366 00:22:35,559 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: Okay, so right, so the builder had the paperwork and 367 00:22:38,319 --> 00:22:40,200 set it all up, and then the paperwork for the 368 00:22:40,759 --> 00:22:44,200 turning over to the resident controlled HOA board, that's where 369 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,160 they messed up, right, Yeah, so not the declaration, got you? Okay, 370 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,720 Well that's a good lead if if you're having problems, Yeah, 371 00:22:51,759 --> 00:22:55,039 take a look at the original paperwork. So this to 372 00:22:55,079 --> 00:22:57,240 me is why I say that this bill And thanks 373 00:22:57,279 --> 00:22:59,759 for the call, Gary, I appreciate it. It's a good tip. 374 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,200 But yeah, you got to have all the documentation. You 375 00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:06,000 got to if you're in an HOA neighborhood, you've got 376 00:23:06,039 --> 00:23:09,680 to have all of the documentation saved onto a personal 377 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,839 file or a cloud whatever, but you got to you 378 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:18,799 got to know it all, all the original documents, because 379 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:24,319 things get said in the neighborhood and among residents and 380 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,359 by the board, and things just become sort of like 381 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,000 accepted as the truth. And then you find out years later, no, 382 00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:35,880 that's not true. Oh there actually isn't a rule that 383 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,359 governs this thing. That everybody thought there was a rule 384 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,480 saying you couldn't do this sort of thing, and turns 385 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,759 out there isn't a rule. Because it's usually it's very 386 00:23:44,759 --> 00:23:49,279 hard to change what's called the CCRs, the codes, covenants 387 00:23:49,279 --> 00:23:53,000 and restrictions right that you you usually need like two 388 00:23:53,079 --> 00:23:56,079 thirds of the neighbors to vote for some sort of 389 00:23:56,079 --> 00:24:00,000 a major change to your CCRs, and so it's very 390 00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:02,720 difficult to do. So a lot of boards will try 391 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,599 to get around it. And as you might imagine, if 392 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,319 the board is still controlled by the builder in a 393 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,440 new neighborhood still under construction, and they're like, we'll turn 394 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,319 it over when seventy percent or eighty percent of the 395 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,440 units are sold, and then they'll start turning it over. 396 00:24:21,599 --> 00:24:23,839 But they don't have to set it at seventy percent. 397 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,039 They can set it at one hundred percent, and that 398 00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:30,640 neighborhood could take a decade to build. And so residents 399 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,839 never get control over that board. And that board is 400 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,559 basically controlled. It is controlled by the builder, and then 401 00:24:37,599 --> 00:24:41,960 the builder can change the rules however it chooses, and 402 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,839 they're only required to have one meeting a year for 403 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:51,279 their budget quote ratification of the board by the board. 404 00:24:51,319 --> 00:24:53,240 Home owners don't get a vote on it, but they 405 00:24:53,279 --> 00:24:56,480 have to have a meeting. So they show you here's 406 00:24:56,519 --> 00:25:00,400 the spending. And here's a little secret I learned. They 407 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,200 keep the HOA assessment levels, the dues, they keep them 408 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,160 low while they're selling their units, and then when they're gone, 409 00:25:06,599 --> 00:25:09,359 you find out you don't have any money because they 410 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,960 haven't been funding for all the maintenance. This is a 411 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,440 big problem. Here's a great idea. 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I call uh just tuned in and called the 438 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,759 fact that there's some legislation moving through North Carolina. But 439 00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:48,480 I wanted to give you a little perspective on South Carolina. 440 00:26:48,599 --> 00:26:50,799 All Right, I'm right across the border. I live in 441 00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:53,480 an h I live in a neighborhood where the developer 442 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,400 still controls the HOA because he's still building out right, 443 00:26:57,799 --> 00:27:02,599 and he has not followed his own bylaws. He went 444 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,880 two or three years without sending out any financial statements 445 00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:11,079 to to the to the residents, and so we began to, 446 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,839 you know, complain. Of course, we signed, We got a 447 00:27:13,839 --> 00:27:17,279 neighborhood petitioned up for him to follow his own bylaws. 448 00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:21,000 Long story short, there's not a lot of recourse at 449 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,240 the state level. We went all the way to the 450 00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:27,759 Attorney General's office, and he falls under HOA. Developer h 451 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:32,359 a's fall under the non Profit Act in South Carolina, 452 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,759 which simply says, you know, you have to act on 453 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,160 in fiduciary duty if you run a nonprofit and you 454 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,240 have to respond to the people that benefit from the nonprofit. 455 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,279 Problem is, there's no teeth in the law in the 456 00:27:47,319 --> 00:27:49,680 Act that says, well, what if you don't do that, 457 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,400 what if you breach your faibuciary duty. So the end 458 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,680 result was we were told get a lawyer, and so 459 00:27:58,039 --> 00:28:02,240 it really is ranked with potential for abuse and we're 460 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,359 suffering it right now. Oh yeah, we do have a 461 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,599 lawsuit against against this developer. Can't go into a lot 462 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,640 of detail about that. Sure, it's not an easy route, Pete. 463 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:12,640 It is not easy. 464 00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:15,599 Speaker 1: No. And that's the other thing too, is the litigation 465 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,119 that you have to pursue. You are just residents. You 466 00:28:20,279 --> 00:28:23,160 just have to band together and take up a collection. 467 00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:27,279 You can't even use HOA funds. You're not even an entity. 468 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,000 You're not an HOA. So like, who's the client in 469 00:28:31,079 --> 00:28:35,920 that lawyer customer relationship? Right, you have to raise the 470 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:36,480 money yourself. 471 00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: I'm assuming you're exactly right. We banded together. We got captains, 472 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,519 you know, captains in the neighborhood, so to speak, door 473 00:28:43,519 --> 00:28:47,039 to door because I could money. It's just a lot 474 00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:50,799 of work and even today it's moving through the system. 475 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,599 They've challenged us, they said, you know, each individual has 476 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,359 to sue them directly. Our lawyers argue that we're a 477 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,480 class action, and I think the last I saw we're 478 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,519 getting approved to be that with right, Thank goodness, you know, 479 00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:07,799 because then we'd really do on on the ropes if 480 00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:11,599 we each had to sue directly. But yeah, anyway, just 481 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,200 wanted to share that, and you know, I just feel like, oh, 482 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,640 I'll give you this too. So the legislature said, Okay, well, 483 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,960 we realize there's a lot of problems with hoa's, and 484 00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:24,720 we're going to create a you know, we're gonna we're 485 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,319 going to create a hotline with a consumer affairs department 486 00:29:27,319 --> 00:29:31,440 in South Carolina for people to register complaints with their 487 00:29:31,559 --> 00:29:34,880 hoa's and then we'll use that to inform us on 488 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,519 future legislation. Which that was five years ago. MERGYA has 489 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,880 just they've had tons of issues down there. Uh and 490 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,000 so really it's just to kick the can from what 491 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,400 we can tell, you know, with the legislature. But it's unfortunate. 492 00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:51,160 Hopefully they'll learn something from what may be happening in 493 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:51,839 North Carolina. 494 00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:54,519 Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, And here's the other thing. When you're 495 00:29:54,559 --> 00:29:58,720 dealing with a legislature that is packed with people who 496 00:29:58,759 --> 00:30:02,640 have to run for election, they get campaign contributions, and 497 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,799 they usually get most of them from the developers that 498 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,160 are benefiting from the lack of oversight and controls. 499 00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:13,519 Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean the whole thing. You think about everybody 500 00:30:13,559 --> 00:30:17,119 that benefits from pro development, and you know there's bankers 501 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,119 and mortgage companies and real estate agents and builders and construction, 502 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,200 and so you weigh all that in and people are like, well, 503 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,279 we don't want to handcuff development. I mean, we're very 504 00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:27,920 pro development. 505 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:28,359 Speaker 1: Same here. 506 00:30:29,599 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're right, that's that's what's your up against. Yeah, okay, all. 507 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,119 Speaker 1: Right, well good yeah, good luck to you. Mark. Yeah, 508 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:43,079 I know the I know the feeling Ralph was calling. 509 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,720 I think Ralph's I saw on the board that he 510 00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:48,400 had a comment about the Palisades. That's sort of the 511 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:53,359 poster child in Charlotte for this kind of uh, these 512 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,240 kinds of problems. 513 00:30:54,319 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 2: Right. 514 00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: They they laid in a road if I recall correctly, 515 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,400 and the developer did and then didn't maintain it. And 516 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:06,160 then a lot of times the builders will they will 517 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,680 not fund the reserve accounts, and if they do, they 518 00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:14,079 draw them down so rapidly when they fix everything on 519 00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:15,920 their way out the door. So they get their bonds 520 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,799 back because whenever they start building, they got to get 521 00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:20,799 bonds with the city, and then they want the bonds back. 522 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,039 So in order to get the bonds back, the city 523 00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:25,480 has to approve it. But the homeowners are not included 524 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,519 in any of this process. They don't have to be included. 525 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,839 As long as they pass the city checklist, then that's fine. 526 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,880 And then they get their bond back and they're gone. 527 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,240 And then you realize, oh, they haven't fixed all of 528 00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:41,319 this stuff, and that means the you have to tap 529 00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:44,400 into reserves. Oh but they haven't funded the reserves or 530 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:49,640 they drained them. See this is like, yeah, this can 531 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:55,920 be cataclysmic, like bankruptcy territory for Hoa's all right, that'll 532 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,599 do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. 533 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,799 I could not do the show without your support and 534 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,599 the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, 535 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,039 so if you'd like, please support them too and tell 536 00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:07,759 them you heard it here. You can also become a 537 00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:12,480 patron at my Patreon page or go to dpetecleanershow dot com. Again, 538 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,279 thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything 539 00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:17,000 while I'm gone.