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<v Speaker 1>Welcome everyone to episode two of the Nonprofits. This week tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to go to John Hopkins University where they're

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<v Speaker 1>serving excuse me, they are serving as an example of

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<v Speaker 1>not only just slashing AID or cutting spending, but perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>as a dismantling of the education system in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>AJ has more to break down.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. At John Hopkins University, they're set to eliminate

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<v Speaker 2>over two thousand jobs following the current administration's decision to

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<v Speaker 2>cut eight hundred million dollars in funding from the US

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<v Speaker 2>Agency for International Development, also known as USA. This reduction

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<v Speaker 2>will affect about two hundred and fifty positions in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States and almost two thousand roles across forty four countries,

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<v Speaker 2>impacting the Bloomberg School of Public Health, which is their

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<v Speaker 2>medical school, and the affiliated nonprofit, which focuses on international

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<v Speaker 2>health initiatives like maternal health or disease prevention. So the

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<v Speaker 2>loss of funding weapons critical health projects worldwide, including efforts

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<v Speaker 2>to combat HIV, malaria, and tuberculosis. These layoffs come after

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<v Speaker 2>several major universities have faced financial challenges due to significant

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<v Speaker 2>federal funding cuts. This story is from CNN by Knida

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<v Speaker 2>Ayr On March thirteen, twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, AJ, when I first read this,

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<v Speaker 1>the way that I took it, or the main point

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<v Speaker 1>that I took away from this was another attack on

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<v Speaker 1>our education systems in this country. But I think that

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<v Speaker 1>you highlight a little bit different point, although the both

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<v Speaker 1>points are are adjoined in some way. You talk a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about the cuts to international employees. What kind of

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<v Speaker 1>impacts will that have by all these people being unemployed?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, because of these cuts due to the

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<v Speaker 2>dismantling of usas, this means that the majority of the

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<v Speaker 2>layoffs are going to be international employees. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>sport persons for John Hopkins said that they're really part

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<v Speaker 2>of the work that their international employees have done, Like

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<v Speaker 2>they care for mothers and informs, THEYI fight diseases, they

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<v Speaker 2>provide clean drinking water, you know, they advanced several other

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<v Speaker 2>critical life saving forts around the world. And they mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>that this is actually going to also affect the Center

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<v Speaker 2>for Communications Programs. This program is the university's messaging around

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<v Speaker 2>public health and this is extremely sensitive an important program

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<v Speaker 2>because science communication regarding public health is not something that

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<v Speaker 2>we should be messing with. It really upsets me when

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<v Speaker 2>science is in valued. Okay, but this is this isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>During the current president's first round in twenty sixteen, there

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<v Speaker 2>was a major focus on dismantling anything scientific. That's where

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<v Speaker 2>this major protest called for science came from. Scientists were

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<v Speaker 2>so pissed off that you know, you know things that

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<v Speaker 2>really when scientists come out with the lab and they

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<v Speaker 2>go out on this tweet and protest, so it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so people need to stand up right now, they need

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<v Speaker 2>to speak up. It's the only way that we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get through other lists.

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<v Speaker 1>And we talked about on Monday night. You know, this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of alignment with with Christianity and with the Conservative Party.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course our president is conservative, his first run

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<v Speaker 1>at the presidency or his first presidential term, like you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned conservative again cuts to education, which we see conservative

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<v Speaker 1>governments across the country doing, and that I think speaks

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<v Speaker 1>to again the cuts to science, the cuts to health programs.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, for some reason, conservatives don't want to see

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<v Speaker 1>people get educated, and you know, they actually do better

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<v Speaker 1>when their voters are uneducated, because I think that that

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<v Speaker 1>is the class that tends to vote for them, the

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<v Speaker 1>the non college educated, the working class, and that's no

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<v Speaker 1>swipe at the non college educated to working class. But

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<v Speaker 1>it just seems that the conservatives think that they can

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<v Speaker 1>do without research, they can do without education, and runs

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<v Speaker 1>on our public education are happening alongside runs on our

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<v Speaker 1>colleges and universities. So you know that that's my position

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<v Speaker 1>on why I think education is always under attack. But

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<v Speaker 1>if Neil, you had a point about how hitpocritical this

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<v Speaker 1>all is, and I just wanted to hear your side

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<v Speaker 1>of how this displays hypocrisy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, we hear time and again that Party

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<v Speaker 3>of the Family, pro family, pro all these you know,

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<v Speaker 3>buzzwords that are cheap, a lot cheaper than a that

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<v Speaker 3>actually affects the issue. But you know this, we see

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<v Speaker 3>pro live Party of the Family, and yet a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of these programs that are going to be impacted are

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<v Speaker 3>going to have very significant global health impact on mothers

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<v Speaker 3>and children. So I mean it's just you know, they're

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<v Speaker 3>they're cutting maternal health programs, vaccinations. I mean, these are

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<v Speaker 3>very direct harm issues, you know, And what I think

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<v Speaker 3>is really appalling about it is is that they're willing

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<v Speaker 3>to allow this to happen for women and children and

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<v Speaker 3>families to actually suffer in an effort to promote their

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<v Speaker 3>own political agenda over actual care. It's just hollow, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not real, it's just lip service. Because you know, this

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<v Speaker 3>is also a huge impact on what we refer to

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<v Speaker 3>a soft diplomacy. We generate a lot of good will

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<v Speaker 3>across the world by these types of non controversial programs,

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<v Speaker 3>and instead what we're doing is right in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of it saying all right, you're cut, you're off, and

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<v Speaker 3>and that does quite the opposite. That has an even

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<v Speaker 3>greater impact on the opposite side, because here we are,

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing these things, and now you're just leaving us

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<v Speaker 3>in the lurch.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Oh go ahead, ah, go ahead. Please.

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<v Speaker 2>You know I was gonna say, speaking of their agenda,

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<v Speaker 2>this cut to Johns Hopkins University isn't specifically to this university.

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<v Speaker 2>It came due to the cuts to USA. And let's

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<v Speaker 2>just get one thing straight, okay. It had nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>do with the waste or mismanagement of funds. This isn't

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<v Speaker 2>about one thing and one thing only, and it's that

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<v Speaker 2>transgender danger like that was one of the main claims

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<v Speaker 2>or issues that the administration. The administration has had unshared publicly.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, the Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt said during a

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<v Speaker 2>press conference. She said that USA was awarded a two

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<v Speaker 2>million grant for sex changes in Guatemala.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to inject there because I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying highlights a different point, like or highlights

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<v Speaker 1>an important point I think is kind of being glossed over.

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<v Speaker 1>Not by us, but I think just from the understanding

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<v Speaker 1>in general, who are the people that are being targeted.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not Americans, right in this case, it's brown people

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<v Speaker 1>that live far away, right, It's people that are like

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<v Speaker 1>not like us. You know, it's those people, and we

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<v Speaker 1>find this boogeyman where it's okay if they suffer, right,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of what we say. So speaking to Infidel's you

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<v Speaker 1>know hypothesis on the hypocrisy, you know these people that

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<v Speaker 1>are saying, well, this is the way we are. We

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<v Speaker 1>are a pro family, we are pro life, we follow

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<v Speaker 1>the laws of Jesus. Don't do any of those things

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<v Speaker 1>when the people are brown or like brown, or they

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<v Speaker 1>live in some far off country or they're just different, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, you're right. While while it might not

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<v Speaker 1>be an attack on the edge, on the education system itself,

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<v Speaker 1>or on John Hopkins university itself. The ripple effects, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the the second and third order effects by attacking that

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<v Speaker 1>university are monumental and they affect a lot of other people,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of other people that are just different. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so AGM, sorry for interrupting, but I had to

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<v Speaker 1>get that out there, So please continue if you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to follow up on that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you're completely correct, Like this is a whole it's

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<v Speaker 2>a whole cycle that they're doing. It's a circle. It

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<v Speaker 2>goes like they cut the funds for USAID and they

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<v Speaker 2>don't realize the impact that that has not only on

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<v Speaker 2>all of these brown people that are living far away,

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<v Speaker 2>but also on our own education system. So it's insane

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<v Speaker 2>to me. But you know, like as I mentioned, like

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<v Speaker 2>this whole thing about the sex changes in Guatemala, if

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<v Speaker 2>you go and do a quick search and look at

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<v Speaker 2>the facts, you see that that's not the case. The

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<v Speaker 2>money was awarded to an LGBTQ nonprofit organization, but it

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<v Speaker 2>would be useful more than just gender firming care. It

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<v Speaker 2>included things like general healthcare, right, but for trans people, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's fine, but it was like general healthcare, like mental health,

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<v Speaker 2>domestic violence, prevention, speech therapy, all this kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and only about three one hundred and fifty thousands have

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<v Speaker 2>actually been given to them. But no, obviously it's not

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<v Speaker 2>being use for sex change surgeries. And if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at it such a small amount.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we saw, we saw that Doge was identifying or

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<v Speaker 1>falsely identifying. I don't know that the right way. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess false claims, making false claims on amounts that were

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<v Speaker 1>being spent on certain things that were not taking place

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<v Speaker 1>at all. And even if that were the case, right,

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<v Speaker 1>these cuts across the board are just short term spending

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<v Speaker 1>cuts that appease the wealthy in this country. But human

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<v Speaker 1>beings as a species are being set back because of

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<v Speaker 1>the research that is being eliminated the way that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we fight diseases and that we learn how to save

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<v Speaker 1>lives better. And so in Fidel, I wanted to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you when it comes to the cuts, are there other

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<v Speaker 1>ways that we could make cuts and still save the

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<v Speaker 1>lives of people, continue our research and save money.

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<v Speaker 3>Bo you know, and just throwing this out here random.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if we consider the Tesla and space X

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<v Speaker 3>contracts that the government spends every year, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>saying that some of these aren't for valuable purposes, but

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<v Speaker 3>we could say more money than those is done going

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<v Speaker 3>around nickel and diming what they have at the expense

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<v Speaker 3>of purely random algorithms. I mean, when you and your effort,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, because all that's completely random. Of course, we're

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<v Speaker 3>just doing what's unnecessary. But if somehow things like Theanola

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<v Speaker 3>gay gets cut because you know, as far as being

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned because the word gays in it, and that's what

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<v Speaker 3>we see with a lot of this, it fits their

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<v Speaker 3>political agenda because they run on this policy where you

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<v Speaker 3>would think that thirty percent of the US budget goes

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<v Speaker 3>to usaid and you know, foreign aid in general and

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<v Speaker 3>all these other things. And really, when it comes down

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<v Speaker 3>to it, it suits ourself interest to keep this because

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<v Speaker 3>first we're building goodwill in other places, saving lives. That's

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<v Speaker 3>an added bone, you know. I know that may not

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<v Speaker 3>mean something to some of these people that we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 3>but also our own self interest. I mean, do we

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<v Speaker 3>forget the last pandemic? A lot of this money that

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<v Speaker 3>we use as far as research and healthcare goes out

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<v Speaker 3>to help get an idea what's going on in other

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<v Speaker 3>places regarding the next pandemic. You know, you know, do

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<v Speaker 3>we think we've hit our quota for global health crisises

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<v Speaker 3>in our lifetime, so we don't need to worry about it.

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<v Speaker 3>All these cuts leave us ill prepared. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like assuming the storm on hit again because we got

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<v Speaker 3>lucky last time. You know, it's completely ignoring that being

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<v Speaker 3>prepared and these proactive actions that we take with our

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<v Speaker 3>involvement with the well physical health of other countries serves

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<v Speaker 3>our purposes too. You know, it's not just we're being

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<v Speaker 3>good guys, but it's in our own self interest. But

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<v Speaker 3>we're sacrificing that for the bigionaire class.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and there are ways to be leaders as a country,

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<v Speaker 1>to lead the free world in an effective, well run

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<v Speaker 1>administrative administration or government. I mean, that was something we

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<v Speaker 1>used to pride ourselves on. I could, I would, I

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<v Speaker 1>would agree that that is no longer the case. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would say that you know this run on

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<v Speaker 1>colleges that have these expensive programs, well, that exactly reflects

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<v Speaker 1>what you just talked about in Fidel. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>are losing We're gonna lose doctors, right, we are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>lose all types of health professionals. We're gonna lose valuable

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<v Speaker 1>training and education. We're gonna lose resources that allow us

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<v Speaker 1>to stay current with changing viruses, uh, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>changing climate, what have you As these these universities, in

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<v Speaker 1>these colleges lose this money. Programs that rely on these

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<v Speaker 1>colleges to be the leaders in uh you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>the global outreach of basic well being, basic health and

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<v Speaker 1>wellness for people. Uh, you know, they're gonna they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>lose as well. Uh and aj, I think that you

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<v Speaker 1>had some good points to make about funding cuts on

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<v Speaker 1>that note, and I just like to hear a little

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, earlier you mentioned, you know how this is an

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<v Speaker 2>attack on all kinds of higher education and even lower education.

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<v Speaker 2>And I completely agree. It's like the cuts and the

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<v Speaker 2>attacks are coming from everywhere and for any reason. For example,

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<v Speaker 2>last month, there were cuts to the National Institute of

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<v Speaker 2>Health to their grants that were used for research, and

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<v Speaker 2>this specifically could reduce the money going to some universities

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<v Speaker 2>by over one hundred million. Some of these schools have

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<v Speaker 2>already had to pull back many of their projects because

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<v Speaker 2>of these cuts, even though they you know, have been

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<v Speaker 2>delayed temporarily by core challenges. But as we can see,

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<v Speaker 2>the funds that were stopped or cut have not been

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<v Speaker 2>returned to these programs around organizations. So you know, there

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<v Speaker 2>have been even other higher education institutions that are feeling

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<v Speaker 2>really uneasy about the future of their federal funding. There

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<v Speaker 2>have been other efforts by this administration and to cut

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<v Speaker 2>funding to higher educations for pretty much any reason they

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<v Speaker 2>can find. Last week, four hundred millions was cut from

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<v Speaker 2>Columbia University because what the administration claimed that the school

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<v Speaker 2>failed to reduce anti semitism on campus, meaning that they

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<v Speaker 2>allowed pro Palestinian protests. And I mean because of this,

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<v Speaker 2>they had to cancel grants, they had to cancer contracts,

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<v Speaker 2>they had to cancer research. It's affecting so many major

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<v Speaker 2>universiti It's not even just like they're you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh, you know, it's a small one. Not

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<v Speaker 2>like this is Columbia, this is John Hopkins.

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<v Speaker 1>These are major. It is huge. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>of precedents for this where education is a prett help

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<v Speaker 1>to education is a pret quote quid pro quote excuse

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<v Speaker 1>me by the government. I've never heard of anything like this.

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<v Speaker 1>And just like we talked about on Monday, how we

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<v Speaker 1>had a Christian Council disguising essentially mental abuse as freedom

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<v Speaker 1>of speech. You know, we've got the government now characterizing

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<v Speaker 1>freedom of speech as anti semitism. You know, Colombia doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want these things. This doesn't help Colombia in any way.

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<v Speaker 1>People don't get the class any earlier. Operations don't run

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<v Speaker 1>anymore smoothly because people are protesting for Palestinian rights. But

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<v Speaker 1>they have a right to free speech and people are

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to assemble in this country. And who are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Colombia's you know, council or excuse me, board of directors

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<v Speaker 1>to intervene, and people were banned from campus and people

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<v Speaker 1>were placed under arrest in the past that these protests,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm in New York City. I know that there

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<v Speaker 1>are pro Israel protests as well. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 1>not just one group. So again we're back to othering others, right,

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<v Speaker 1>othering the people that are not like us, the brown Palestinians, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the Islamists. You know, it's such a it's such a

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<v Speaker 1>cop out. It's such a weak position to take to

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<v Speaker 1>just demonize somebody because you don't agree with them, and

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<v Speaker 1>then to cut funding that sees to the well being

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<v Speaker 1>of millions of people. Because let's face it, this money

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<v Speaker 1>stretches far right. I've never seen anything like it, and

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<v Speaker 1>quite frankly, I find it disgusting. And you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna leave Infidel with the last thought on that. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you had anything you wanted to add.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yes, And I think that one of the things

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<v Speaker 3>that's so very important is we hear things like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to make mistakes, but we'll correct them. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>that doesn't help the people who are immediately impacted by

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<v Speaker 3>your cuts. And it's not like, Okay, we cut it

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<v Speaker 3>and a month later we bring it back. That all

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<v Speaker 3>the other people that were in this whole thing are

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<v Speaker 3>just sitting lock automatons in some closet waiting to get

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<v Speaker 3>activated and turned back on. So the programs can just

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<v Speaker 3>reactivate and continue business as usual. When you make changes

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<v Speaker 3>like these, especially in many of these low income places

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<v Speaker 3>that US eight is going to impact, these people who

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<v Speaker 3>are doing it are may en up in completely different locations.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like those things just get restarted. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>like the people who needed that service in the meantime

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<v Speaker 3>get to go. Okay, I just put it on ice

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<v Speaker 3>until now. And I think that that's what it's easy

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<v Speaker 3>for us to forget. In a first world country where

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<v Speaker 3>we do have options, if one option isn't available to us,

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<v Speaker 3>we may have other hospitals or other resources that reach

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<v Speaker 3>out to But oftentimes, in the situations we're talking about

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<v Speaker 3>US eight and these foreign nations, we are the option.

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<v Speaker 3>It's us or it's potentially death. So with that in mind, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that they're being very glib with the situations.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I want to also. I said we were

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<v Speaker 1>going to wrap it up, but I think I have

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<v Speaker 1>something else I want to say, because when you say

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<v Speaker 1>it's either us or it's death, and then we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the plight of these foreign nations, and I've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about how it's easy to make the target out of

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<v Speaker 1>the others that are not like us. You know, when

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<v Speaker 1>when this administration came in, they immediately started airstrikes on Somalians.

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<v Speaker 1>Who cares, right, just Somalians, right? And then the other

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<v Speaker 1>day they started another attack on let me see here,

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<v Speaker 1>on the Hoothies and Yemen. Now we've been at odds

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<v Speaker 1>with the Hooties for a while, but at the same

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<v Speaker 1>time that all this stuff is going on, a way

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<v Speaker 1>to distract everybody from it is to just start killing

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<v Speaker 1>brown people. And I want I think that we need

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<v Speaker 1>to make a point of that. I think we need

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<v Speaker 1>to make a point of that and let people not

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<v Speaker 1>forget that we take we treat these people. As a country,

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<v Speaker 1>we treat foreigners so poorly to the point that we

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<v Speaker 1>are we are willing to give them death and nobody

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<v Speaker 1>bats an eye. And we're not only doing this with weapons,

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing this with the pullback of healthcare and science

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<v Speaker 1>and research and infidel I thought you made a great

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<v Speaker 1>point that that allowed me to open it up to

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<v Speaker 1>the use of our military and foreign nations. And aj

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<v Speaker 1>I'll ask you to comment before we close out for tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't really have any for their comments

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<v Speaker 2>other than if there is a time to not be silent,

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<v Speaker 2>this is it.

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