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<v Speaker 1>A thirty to fifty five Krsity talk station. Happy Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>Extra special day to be tuned in the fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>Carssee Morning Show on the heels of the insight scoop

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<v Speaker 1>that Bright Bart News Daniel Davis Deep Dive with retired

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<v Speaker 1>Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis. Welcome back here, Daniel. It is

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<v Speaker 1>always a pleasure to have you on the fifty five

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<v Speaker 2>Believe me, it's always a pleasure to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and given the topic, I could say the timing

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't be better or worse depending on your perspective and

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<v Speaker 1>how you're looking at it. To talk with you about

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<v Speaker 1>the situation unfolding in Israel. This morning, they launched ground

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<v Speaker 1>forces into southern Lebanon, trying to create a buffer space

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<v Speaker 1>so the sixty thousand displaced rallies in northern Israel can

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<v Speaker 1>move back. They were worried about Hesbala maybe launching a

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<v Speaker 1>Gaza like attack a Lisa as I understand it. So

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<v Speaker 1>after bombing the hell out of Lebanon and hitting the

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<v Speaker 1>various leadership targets, which apparently they've been successful at doing,

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<v Speaker 1>now we've got boots on the ground in southern or

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<v Speaker 1>in southern Lebanon. And also, as I note a little

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<v Speaker 1>dicey situation, the USS Abraham Lincoln Aircraft carrier strike group

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<v Speaker 1>on its are is staying there. Is supposed to leave

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<v Speaker 1>after the Harry As Truman carrier strike group showed up.

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<v Speaker 1>But given the warlike environment, we got two carrier groups

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in the area.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we do yeah, and I'm i'm that's the thing

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<v Speaker 3>that alarms me the most because this has every possibility

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<v Speaker 3>of escalating further and potentially even drawing in is Iran

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<v Speaker 3>into this war. And that's the part that worries me,

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<v Speaker 3>because we seem to be cognizant of that fact and

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<v Speaker 3>seem to be moving down the road. We had Secretary

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<v Speaker 3>of State Austin last night I think it was maybe

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<v Speaker 3>it was this morning. I didn't see the time on

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<v Speaker 3>this statement, but they said, yeah, we agree with everything

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<v Speaker 3>Israel is doing, but we give a warning to Iran

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<v Speaker 3>that if they do anything that we are sending all

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<v Speaker 3>this firepower to the region, all but declaring that we

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<v Speaker 3>will also attack is Iran.

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<v Speaker 2>If anything happens.

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<v Speaker 3>And listen, I understand that we have good relations with

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<v Speaker 3>Israel center, but we should not be sending the American

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<v Speaker 3>armed forces to fight on behalf of Israel as a

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<v Speaker 3>matter of just a court just like of course we will.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't have this relationship with them. And in fact,

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<v Speaker 3>the reason we have been sending three point eight billion

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<v Speaker 3>every year and security assistance to Israel is so that

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<v Speaker 3>they can form the pre eminent military power and defend themselves,

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<v Speaker 3>which they have done in every single conflict in their history.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no reason why this one should be different.

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<v Speaker 3>But it almost looks like we're eager to join the

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<v Speaker 3>fight against Iran, and that is a bad move.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I'll read you the quote, because it was

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<v Speaker 1>two days in a row. He made a similar statement,

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<v Speaker 1>I reiterated, referring to his conversation with his counterpartner Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>I reiterated, these serious consequences for Iran in the event

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<v Speaker 1>Iran chooses to launch a direct military attack against Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>He's splitting hairs here, but isn't by virtue of Hesbala

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<v Speaker 1>and the other terrorist organizations directly controlled by Iran and

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<v Speaker 1>presumably not acting without approval from Iran, since Iran's the

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<v Speaker 1>one funding them and has been funding them that they

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<v Speaker 1>already have with that's a proxy war. Iran is waging

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<v Speaker 1>a proxy war against Israel through these terrorist groups, much

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<v Speaker 1>in the same way we're waging a proxy war against

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<v Speaker 1>Russia via Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, there's not a lot of difference there. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no difference there, quite frankly. And so for us

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<v Speaker 3>to say this about Iran, I mean, forget about the

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<v Speaker 3>double standards for a moment. I'm still concerned about the

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<v Speaker 3>ease with which we're talking about moving into war. And listen,

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<v Speaker 3>our Constitution and the nineteen seventy three War Powers Act

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<v Speaker 3>are crystal clear.

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<v Speaker 2>Only the Congress can take us into war.

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<v Speaker 3>The Commander chief cannot just choose to send our forces

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<v Speaker 3>into a situation which will result in a conflict unless

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<v Speaker 3>we or our forces are directly attacked. That's not even

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<v Speaker 3>on the table right now. So we need to be

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<v Speaker 3>talking about this at the Congress. But now nobody wants

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about anything except silly stuff with the election

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<v Speaker 3>but a lot of the topics are are relatively unimportant

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<v Speaker 3>compared to war and peace, which isn't even on the table.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that should change right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, and I've had conversations with Judge Ennena Paulatan,

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<v Speaker 1>who's on my program every week and on Wednesdays, about

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<v Speaker 1>the last time we declared war was World War Two?

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<v Speaker 1>What about the Korean War, Vietnam War, the invasion Iraq?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we could go on and on of all

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<v Speaker 1>the conflicts we've been in when there has been a

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<v Speaker 1>declaration of war. And I don't know that hiding behind

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<v Speaker 1>an authorization for use of military force is constitutionally appropriate.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's leave that for the legal scholars to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>in the constitutional law. But we don't even have an

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<v Speaker 1>authorization for use of military force unless they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>rely on one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what twenty years old by.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, right, which your course was designed, you know, after

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<v Speaker 3>nine to eleven, I know, and it's been bastardized and

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<v Speaker 3>abused beyond belief. Some of those I think have actually

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<v Speaker 3>been retired, at least one of them had. But the

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and three, when I think, is still on

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<v Speaker 3>the books. But still I mean, that would just be

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<v Speaker 3>just literally be lying. I mean, just call it what

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<v Speaker 3>it is to try and claim that. But I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think anyone's even talking about that right now. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that Biden is just considering going through almost by just

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<v Speaker 3>defaults of just ordering it regardless of whether there is

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<v Speaker 3>or isn't, And no one seems to be concerned about that.

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<v Speaker 3>But listen, I'm telling you the reason why is don't

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<v Speaker 3>anybody think that if such an event occurred that this

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<v Speaker 3>would be just like what we did with launch and

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<v Speaker 3>some missiles into Syria a few times in the last

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen or twenty years. This would be a war that

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<v Speaker 3>could draw us in, and it would be a lot

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<v Speaker 3>lot worse, and it could go substantially worse. So this

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<v Speaker 3>needs to be front and center on our radars right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you have Iran telling Hesbala and the other terrorist

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<v Speaker 1>organizations to attack Israel. Basically I got that proxy war.

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<v Speaker 1>But in dealing with Iran directly, we are taking on

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<v Speaker 1>more than us to Iran, we would be also dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with the the they're now best friends Russia and other

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<v Speaker 1>powers that hate us. I mean the Chinese Communist Party

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<v Speaker 1>for example, had now has a cozier relationship with Russia

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<v Speaker 1>and Iran than they did before these conflicts broke out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost as if we're pushing him into each other's arms.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not almost, We definitely are pushing them into each

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<v Speaker 3>other's arms, and especially heading into now listening, I think

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<v Speaker 3>three weeks away this bricks conference, you know, in which

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<v Speaker 3>all these nations are trying to get together to form

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<v Speaker 3>an expanding economic competition to the G seven and to

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<v Speaker 3>the to the Western Way.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, they have.

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<v Speaker 3>Every interest in keeping this thing, you know, off the table.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Russia and China especially they really want this

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<v Speaker 3>bricks Conference to come off without a hitch, and so

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<v Speaker 3>they probably don't want any conflict at all right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's only three weeks away.

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<v Speaker 3>After that case, I think that the situation could change

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<v Speaker 3>dramatically because Russia is dependent to a large extent on

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<v Speaker 3>Iran and for them to continue to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>provide the drones and the missiles and other things that

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<v Speaker 3>they're doing with the Russian side, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>that they're just the Russians would just allow Iran to

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<v Speaker 3>be destroyed, especially if the US joined into a war

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<v Speaker 3>against them, and everything could be on the table if

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<v Speaker 3>that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we kind of world War three, or at least

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<v Speaker 1>tiptoeing it around it without saying it out loud, Daniel,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't come up to any other conclusion, and do

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<v Speaker 1>we not have ourselves to blame for a variety of reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>But the sanctions that previously were in place were pretty

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<v Speaker 1>tough sanctions on Iran. As soon as the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the palettes of cash that Barack Obama dropped off,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had a period of time with the Trump administration,

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<v Speaker 1>Biden lifted sanctions on Iran, and of course that frees

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<v Speaker 1>up money for them to fund terrorists and build drones

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<v Speaker 1>for the Russians or whoever. I mean, what of the

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<v Speaker 1>sanctions and why do we lift them in the first place.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, if we're being honest, we got to back up

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<v Speaker 3>even before that, and whether we locked it or not,

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<v Speaker 3>Obama's twenty fifteen JCPOA the nuclear deal put significant constraints

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<v Speaker 3>on the Iranian regime, and their nuclear stockpiles were barely

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<v Speaker 3>anything at all. Their centrifugias were hardly any, just a

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<v Speaker 3>handful for research. But since we got out of the JCPOWAY,

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<v Speaker 3>all those constraints came off. And now then all those

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<v Speaker 3>amounts and tops of centrifugions and everything else are at

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<v Speaker 3>the table because we lost all of our leverage. And

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<v Speaker 3>then of course we put sanctions on and then they

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<v Speaker 3>try to get them back off. All that was a mess,

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<v Speaker 3>no doubt, But really it started when we took a

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<v Speaker 3>kat out of the JCP away and took the constraints off,

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<v Speaker 3>and so naturally they went in the opposite direction. So

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<v Speaker 3>we do have ourselves to blame in our reactions since

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<v Speaker 3>that time have only compounded it.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, Well, what of the red line? Serious consequences?

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess we can all define what serious consequences

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<v Speaker 1>for Iran might mean if they got directly involved. But

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<v Speaker 1>is this another one of those red lines in the

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<v Speaker 1>sand that we just sort of ignore after the red

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<v Speaker 1>line has crossed in order to avoid this broader glow

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<v Speaker 1>war from breaking out.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, I got to tell you I'm a little more

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<v Speaker 3>concerned with with some of the statements made by Netan Yahoo.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, right before all this stuff started, when he

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<v Speaker 3>all but called out Iran so as his troops were

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<v Speaker 3>on the border ready to invade into Lebanon, he gave

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<v Speaker 3>a warning not to the leban These people, but to

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<v Speaker 3>the Iranian people and said, when your government falls and

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<v Speaker 3>something's going to happen much earlier than you think, when

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to be free, then all these things can happen,

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<v Speaker 3>which tells me he's already thinking about going in that direction,

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<v Speaker 3>because I think, listen, we got to be honest. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that Yahoo has and his government, not just him personally,

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<v Speaker 3>has said, all right, this is our golden opportunity for

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<v Speaker 3>our existence. We're going to get rid of the palest

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<v Speaker 3>Indian problem, the Hesbolo problem, and the Iranian problem all

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<v Speaker 3>at one time. But the only way he can do

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<v Speaker 3>that is if he draws the US into it. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's why we should put the brakes on and say, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>we're not going to fight a war for you, so

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<v Speaker 3>do not start one with Iran. Defend yourself straight up,

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<v Speaker 3>no question about it, but do not expand beyond on

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<v Speaker 3>this and start a war that you can't finish.

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<v Speaker 2>On your own.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and underline that by saying, hey, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to need congressional approval if we do choose

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<v Speaker 1>to join the fight, and we don't have any right now,

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<v Speaker 1>so there isn't any guarantee that it's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Enter Constitution Daniel Davis Deep Dive search form online you

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<v Speaker 1>find this podcast. Always enjoyed the segment Daniel have a

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful week, my friend. We'll talk next Tuesday. See you

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<v Speaker 1>next week, hopefully with better news. Eight forty fifty five

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