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Speaker 1: Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis. Welcome back here, Daniel. It is
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Speaker 2: Believe me, it's always a pleasure to be here.
Speaker 1: Well, and given the topic, I could say the timing
Speaker 1: couldn't be better or worse depending on your perspective and
Speaker 1: how you're looking at it. To talk with you about
Speaker 1: the situation unfolding in Israel. This morning, they launched ground
Speaker 1: forces into southern Lebanon, trying to create a buffer space
Speaker 1: so the sixty thousand displaced rallies in northern Israel can
Speaker 1: move back. They were worried about Hesbala maybe launching a
Speaker 1: Gaza like attack a Lisa as I understand it. So
Speaker 1: after bombing the hell out of Lebanon and hitting the
Speaker 1: various leadership targets, which apparently they've been successful at doing,
Speaker 1: now we've got boots on the ground in southern or
Speaker 1: in southern Lebanon. And also, as I note a little
Speaker 1: dicey situation, the USS Abraham Lincoln Aircraft carrier strike group
Speaker 1: on its are is staying there. Is supposed to leave
Speaker 1: after the Harry As Truman carrier strike group showed up.
Speaker 1: But given the warlike environment, we got two carrier groups
Speaker 1: going to be in the area.
Speaker 3: Now we do yeah, and I'm i'm that's the thing
Speaker 3: that alarms me the most because this has every possibility
Speaker 3: of escalating further and potentially even drawing in is Iran
Speaker 3: into this war. And that's the part that worries me,
Speaker 3: because we seem to be cognizant of that fact and
Speaker 3: seem to be moving down the road. We had Secretary
Speaker 3: of State Austin last night I think it was maybe
Speaker 3: it was this morning. I didn't see the time on
Speaker 3: this statement, but they said, yeah, we agree with everything
Speaker 3: Israel is doing, but we give a warning to Iran
Speaker 3: that if they do anything that we are sending all
Speaker 3: this firepower to the region, all but declaring that we
Speaker 3: will also attack is Iran.
Speaker 2: If anything happens.
Speaker 3: And listen, I understand that we have good relations with
Speaker 3: Israel center, but we should not be sending the American
Speaker 3: armed forces to fight on behalf of Israel as a
Speaker 3: matter of just a court just like of course we will.
Speaker 3: We don't have this relationship with them. And in fact,
Speaker 3: the reason we have been sending three point eight billion
Speaker 3: every year and security assistance to Israel is so that
Speaker 3: they can form the pre eminent military power and defend themselves,
Speaker 3: which they have done in every single conflict in their history.
Speaker 2: There's no reason why this one should be different.
Speaker 3: But it almost looks like we're eager to join the
Speaker 3: fight against Iran, and that is a bad move.
Speaker 1: Well, and I'll read you the quote, because it was
Speaker 1: two days in a row. He made a similar statement,
Speaker 1: I reiterated, referring to his conversation with his counterpartner Israel.
Speaker 1: I reiterated, these serious consequences for Iran in the event
Speaker 1: Iran chooses to launch a direct military attack against Israel.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't.
Speaker 1: He's splitting hairs here, but isn't by virtue of Hesbala
Speaker 1: and the other terrorist organizations directly controlled by Iran and
Speaker 1: presumably not acting without approval from Iran, since Iran's the
Speaker 1: one funding them and has been funding them that they
Speaker 1: already have with that's a proxy war. Iran is waging
Speaker 1: a proxy war against Israel through these terrorist groups, much
Speaker 1: in the same way we're waging a proxy war against
Speaker 1: Russia via Ukraine.
Speaker 3: All Right, there's not a lot of difference there. In fact,
Speaker 3: there's no difference there, quite frankly. And so for us
Speaker 3: to say this about Iran, I mean, forget about the
Speaker 3: double standards for a moment. I'm still concerned about the
Speaker 3: ease with which we're talking about moving into war. And listen,
Speaker 3: our Constitution and the nineteen seventy three War Powers Act
Speaker 3: are crystal clear.
Speaker 2: Only the Congress can take us into war.
Speaker 3: The Commander chief cannot just choose to send our forces
Speaker 3: into a situation which will result in a conflict unless
Speaker 3: we or our forces are directly attacked. That's not even
Speaker 3: on the table right now. So we need to be
Speaker 3: talking about this at the Congress. But now nobody wants
Speaker 3: to talk about anything except silly stuff with the election
Speaker 3: is relatively speaking, I'm not saying the election is silly,
Speaker 3: but a lot of the topics are are relatively unimportant
Speaker 3: compared to war and peace, which isn't even on the table.
Speaker 2: And I think that should change right now.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, and I've had conversations with Judge Ennena Paulatan,
Speaker 1: who's on my program every week and on Wednesdays, about
Speaker 1: the last time we declared war was World War Two?
Speaker 1: What about the Korean War, Vietnam War, the invasion Iraq?
Speaker 1: I mean, we could go on and on of all
Speaker 1: the conflicts we've been in when there has been a
Speaker 1: declaration of war. And I don't know that hiding behind
Speaker 1: an authorization for use of military force is constitutionally appropriate.
Speaker 1: But that's leave that for the legal scholars to discuss
Speaker 1: in the constitutional law. But we don't even have an
Speaker 1: authorization for use of military force unless they're going to
Speaker 1: rely on one.
Speaker 2: That's what twenty years old by.
Speaker 3: Now, right, which your course was designed, you know, after
Speaker 3: nine to eleven, I know, and it's been bastardized and
Speaker 3: abused beyond belief. Some of those I think have actually
Speaker 3: been retired, at least one of them had. But the
Speaker 3: two thousand and three, when I think, is still on
Speaker 3: the books. But still I mean, that would just be
Speaker 3: just literally be lying. I mean, just call it what
Speaker 3: it is to try and claim that. But I don't
Speaker 3: think anyone's even talking about that right now. I think
Speaker 3: that Biden is just considering going through almost by just
Speaker 3: defaults of just ordering it regardless of whether there is
Speaker 3: or isn't, And no one seems to be concerned about that.
Speaker 3: But listen, I'm telling you the reason why is don't
Speaker 3: anybody think that if such an event occurred that this
Speaker 3: would be just like what we did with launch and
Speaker 3: some missiles into Syria a few times in the last
Speaker 3: fifteen or twenty years. This would be a war that
Speaker 3: could draw us in, and it would be a lot
Speaker 3: lot worse, and it could go substantially worse. So this
Speaker 3: needs to be front and center on our radars right now.
Speaker 1: Well, you have Iran telling Hesbala and the other terrorist
Speaker 1: organizations to attack Israel. Basically I got that proxy war.
Speaker 1: But in dealing with Iran directly, we are taking on
Speaker 1: more than us to Iran, we would be also dealing
Speaker 1: with the the they're now best friends Russia and other
Speaker 1: powers that hate us. I mean the Chinese Communist Party
Speaker 1: for example, had now has a cozier relationship with Russia
Speaker 1: and Iran than they did before these conflicts broke out.
Speaker 1: It's almost as if we're pushing him into each other's arms.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not almost, We definitely are pushing them into each
Speaker 3: other's arms, and especially heading into now listening, I think
Speaker 3: three weeks away this bricks conference, you know, in which
Speaker 3: all these nations are trying to get together to form
Speaker 3: an expanding economic competition to the G seven and to
Speaker 3: the to the Western Way.
Speaker 2: Uh, they have.
Speaker 3: Every interest in keeping this thing, you know, off the table.
Speaker 3: I think Russia and China especially they really want this
Speaker 3: bricks Conference to come off without a hitch, and so
Speaker 3: they probably don't want any conflict at all right now.
Speaker 2: But that's only three weeks away.
Speaker 3: After that case, I think that the situation could change
Speaker 3: dramatically because Russia is dependent to a large extent on
Speaker 3: Iran and for them to continue to be able to
Speaker 3: provide the drones and the missiles and other things that
Speaker 3: they're doing with the Russian side, and I don't think
Speaker 3: that they're just the Russians would just allow Iran to
Speaker 3: be destroyed, especially if the US joined into a war
Speaker 3: against them, and everything could be on the table if
Speaker 3: that happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we kind of world War three, or at least
Speaker 1: tiptoeing it around it without saying it out loud, Daniel,
Speaker 1: I can't come up to any other conclusion, and do
Speaker 1: we not have ourselves to blame for a variety of reasons.
Speaker 1: But the sanctions that previously were in place were pretty
Speaker 1: tough sanctions on Iran. As soon as the you know,
Speaker 1: I remember the palettes of cash that Barack Obama dropped off,
Speaker 1: and we had a period of time with the Trump administration,
Speaker 1: Biden lifted sanctions on Iran, and of course that frees
Speaker 1: up money for them to fund terrorists and build drones
Speaker 1: for the Russians or whoever. I mean, what of the
Speaker 1: sanctions and why do we lift them in the first place.
Speaker 3: Listen, if we're being honest, we got to back up
Speaker 3: even before that, and whether we locked it or not,
Speaker 3: Obama's twenty fifteen JCPOA the nuclear deal put significant constraints
Speaker 3: on the Iranian regime, and their nuclear stockpiles were barely
Speaker 3: anything at all. Their centrifugias were hardly any, just a
Speaker 3: handful for research. But since we got out of the JCPOWAY,
Speaker 3: all those constraints came off. And now then all those
Speaker 3: amounts and tops of centrifugions and everything else are at
Speaker 3: the table because we lost all of our leverage. And
Speaker 3: then of course we put sanctions on and then they
Speaker 3: try to get them back off. All that was a mess,
Speaker 3: no doubt, But really it started when we took a
Speaker 3: kat out of the JCP away and took the constraints off,
Speaker 3: and so naturally they went in the opposite direction. So
Speaker 3: we do have ourselves to blame in our reactions since
Speaker 3: that time have only compounded it.
Speaker 1: All Right, Well, what of the red line? Serious consequences?
Speaker 1: And I guess we can all define what serious consequences
Speaker 1: for Iran might mean if they got directly involved. But
Speaker 1: is this another one of those red lines in the
Speaker 1: sand that we just sort of ignore after the red
Speaker 1: line has crossed in order to avoid this broader glow
Speaker 1: war from breaking out.
Speaker 3: Listen, I got to tell you I'm a little more
Speaker 3: concerned with with some of the statements made by Netan Yahoo.
Speaker 3: I guess, right before all this stuff started, when he
Speaker 3: all but called out Iran so as his troops were
Speaker 3: on the border ready to invade into Lebanon, he gave
Speaker 3: a warning not to the leban These people, but to
Speaker 3: the Iranian people and said, when your government falls and
Speaker 3: something's going to happen much earlier than you think, when
Speaker 3: you're going to be free, then all these things can happen,
Speaker 3: which tells me he's already thinking about going in that direction,
Speaker 3: because I think, listen, we got to be honest. I
Speaker 3: think that Yahoo has and his government, not just him personally,
Speaker 3: has said, all right, this is our golden opportunity for
Speaker 3: our existence. We're going to get rid of the palest
Speaker 3: Indian problem, the Hesbolo problem, and the Iranian problem all
Speaker 3: at one time. But the only way he can do
Speaker 3: that is if he draws the US into it. And
Speaker 3: that's why we should put the brakes on and say, listen,
Speaker 3: we're not going to fight a war for you, so
Speaker 3: do not start one with Iran. Defend yourself straight up,
Speaker 3: no question about it, but do not expand beyond on
Speaker 3: this and start a war that you can't finish.
Speaker 2: On your own.
Speaker 1: Well, and underline that by saying, hey, by the way,
Speaker 1: we're going to need congressional approval if we do choose
Speaker 1: to join the fight, and we don't have any right now,
Speaker 1: so there isn't any guarantee that it's going to happen.
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