Speaker 1: It is my great pleasure to welcome for our podcast
Speaker 1: this week, it is the IBF Heavyweight Champion of the World,
Speaker 1: Daniel Duguap and Daniel, You've got a very very big
Speaker 1: fight coming up. You're gonna be taken on. You are
Speaker 1: the IDF champion, will be taken on the video champion
Speaker 1: and the unified champion, Alexander Rusik. You guys will be
Speaker 1: meeting for the undisputed heavyweight title. Will take place July
Speaker 1: nineteenth on his own pay per view at what will
Speaker 1: be a wild and packed Wembley Stadium in your hometown
Speaker 1: of London. It's going to be a big one. Thank
Speaker 1: you very much for doing this, Daniel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no pumping, man, no pumbling.
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you before we get into your
Speaker 1: fight coming up with Alexander Russik. I want to talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about that incredibly impressive victory that you
Speaker 1: scored in September in your last fight against Anthony Joshua,
Speaker 1: a fighter that had been beaten two times by Alexander Russik,
Speaker 1: but certainly not in the manner that you did it.
Speaker 1: You didn't just beat Anthony Joshua, I mean you really
Speaker 1: destroyed him four knockdowns and a fourth round knockout that
Speaker 1: many viewed as the knockout of the year. Just a
Speaker 1: spectacular performance. And I'm sure that you were confident going
Speaker 1: into that fight that you're gonna win defend your title.
Speaker 1: But in your wildest dreams, did you think you're gonna
Speaker 1: take him out the way you took him out, even
Speaker 1: easier than when Usak out pointed him twice and when
Speaker 1: Andy Ruis knocked him out the first time they fought.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, I'll bring the goods. You know.
Speaker 3: My dad told me that this is that's the way,
Speaker 3: that's the way we'd have to fight. We would have
Speaker 3: to make a rule. And yeah, no, I've got a
Speaker 3: fire power. And yeah, it was all about.
Speaker 2: Just see.
Speaker 3: He's in a moment, and that's what we did. Says
Speaker 3: the moment and come out about bell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so when you when you are, you're gonna be
Speaker 1: taken on Usik in a rematch. Of course, anybody that
Speaker 1: follows boxing knows about that first fight. August two thousand
Speaker 1: and twenty three. You were the WBA mandatory challenge. You
Speaker 1: guys fought in Poland and uh he scored a ninth
Speaker 1: round knockout against you. It was a very dominating performance.
Speaker 1: I think even you would admit that by Usik.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: There was, of course the controversy in the fifth round
Speaker 1: of what you believe was a legal punch with Alexander
Speaker 1: Usik and the referee thought was a low blow. But
Speaker 1: after the fight continued once that was you know behind you,
Speaker 1: I guess, and he was able to go on what
Speaker 1: what what prevented you, I guess from from exploiting what
Speaker 1: you had done to him with that shot where you
Speaker 1: were really not able to get back into the fight
Speaker 1: after that, and then of course he went on to
Speaker 1: get the win.
Speaker 3: Oh you're talking about the fight still? Oh really? How
Speaker 3: can I say? I don't think I was at my
Speaker 3: best in that performance, you know, just everything surrounding the fight.
Speaker 3: But you know, I'm I think I feel that I'm
Speaker 3: a new different fight now, Oh no question. I'm a
Speaker 3: man of the future. So that was in a past.
Speaker 3: I'm a man of the future, and I need to
Speaker 3: prove that on the night that I'm not going to
Speaker 3: be the night I'm going to come in there and
Speaker 3: rip them bolts off of him. This is a new me,
Speaker 3: a new fight, and I have a job to do well.
Speaker 3: I was going to get to that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought, since you're doing a rematch, it
Speaker 1: made sense to at least have a brief conversation about
Speaker 1: the first flight. But as you mentioned, since then, you
Speaker 1: have had three very significant victories. You beat the undefeated
Speaker 1: all by knockout, by the way, the undefeated Gerald Big
Speaker 1: Baby Miller, the undefeated Philip Perginage to get the interim delt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all of them.
Speaker 3: Was that the boogey man, they called him Herkovich, So yeah.
Speaker 1: And then of course for josh Joshua also, Yeah, were
Speaker 1: you at all discouraged though after you had the loss
Speaker 1: against Luis because it shouldn't seem like that the way
Speaker 1: you fought those three guys I just mentioned.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, I don't think I show my best
Speaker 3: in the thick fight, and you know, I'm a bro fight.
Speaker 3: I don't want to go out like that. So you know,
Speaker 3: I needed to show what you know, what we worked on,
Speaker 3: you know what I've got in me, and you know,
Speaker 3: having to wrot support around me, my dad, my team,
Speaker 3: and you know, it was no question in my mind
Speaker 3: that we had to come back again and we did that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think as you head into the
Speaker 1: rematch will be the biggest difference for you to the
Speaker 1: way the first fight unfolded.
Speaker 2: As I'm going to win. That's it simple. I'm going
Speaker 2: to win.
Speaker 3: I'm going to win cleaning clinically with you know, you know, fireworks,
Speaker 3: you know, knockouts, That's how. I'm not going to be denied,
Speaker 3: whatever way, whatever way it goes down, I'm not going
Speaker 3: to be denied.
Speaker 1: He has been a great champion in the cruiserweight division.
Speaker 1: He became the undisputed heavyweight champion. He has three of
Speaker 1: the belts now the lineal title. But he's also thirty
Speaker 1: eight years old. And after the fight he had with you,
Speaker 1: he said, two very difficult, the hard fought victories against
Speaker 1: Tyson Fury. How much do you think that those fights
Speaker 1: have taken out of Usak physically.
Speaker 2: A lot?
Speaker 3: You know, those wars they always do. Any fighter will
Speaker 3: tell you that. But in my fact, I'm going to
Speaker 3: drag out a little bit more of and whatever he's
Speaker 3: got left, I'm going to drag it out and turn
Speaker 3: him what they whatever they want to call it old
Speaker 3: or whatever they want to call it, but I'm going
Speaker 3: to drag it out of him and give him a
Speaker 3: real fight.
Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say, you are on a
Speaker 1: great role. As we just discussed your twenties. Seven years old,
Speaker 1: you have an eleven age eleven year age advantage on
Speaker 1: your on your behalf. How much do you think that
Speaker 1: your level of freshness and age plays a role in
Speaker 1: what's gonna unfold on July nineteenth?
Speaker 2: Massively?
Speaker 3: Anyone will tell you, you know, you can feel good fit
Speaker 3: and when you're training in the gym, but for your
Speaker 3: eight year old man and still a for your eight
Speaker 3: year old man, and you can you know, you feel
Speaker 3: the I'll make him feel you know, the all the
Speaker 3: injuries and all of that, whatever they want to say,
Speaker 3: But we're gonna come out on top. I'm young, I'm fresh,
Speaker 3: and I'm in my prim right now.
Speaker 1: So one of the things that people have felt that
Speaker 1: is that there is a vulnerability with USIK is the
Speaker 1: body shots. I mean, you believe that the body shot
Speaker 1: did the damage in the first fight. Obviously some people
Speaker 1: thought it was a low blow. But how much is
Speaker 1: the body attack do you think go to play a
Speaker 1: role for Daniel Dubois in the rematch?
Speaker 3: Every attack really, body head just pull on him, pull
Speaker 3: on him. I mean, as a real fighting man, I'll
Speaker 3: just say put on him. You know we're gonna we've
Speaker 3: worked on in the gym what we need to do
Speaker 3: and how we're gonna execute it. But uh, yeah, we've
Speaker 3: covered We're covering no thing. You know, we're not long
Speaker 3: to go now, and I'm sure it's gonna be the
Speaker 3: world's gonna can't wait to see it. I can't wait
Speaker 3: to deliver it when you find him. The first time
Speaker 3: it was in Poland.
Speaker 1: It's sort of on his turf because it was the
Speaker 1: closest place they can pop Wight fight by Ukraine. Now
Speaker 1: he's coming to London to fighting your hometown. Now, He's
Speaker 1: been a man that's traveled his entire career. He's fought
Speaker 1: everybody in their hometowns. But for you, though, how much
Speaker 1: of a of a factors or for you instead of
Speaker 1: fighting in Poland, is gonna be for you to fight
Speaker 1: him in London.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be repeat as a AJ fight again,
Speaker 3: repeat the same you know, the same kind of crowd
Speaker 3: will be then, you know, we'll we'll create the same atmosphere,
Speaker 3: the same energy and we'll just do what we have
Speaker 3: to do to win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what would it mean to you, Daniel to become
Speaker 1: the undisputed champion, you have a title presently, there hasn't
Speaker 1: been a British undisputed champ since Lennox Lewis in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety nine. That would be a very historical accomplishment.
Speaker 2: Massive, isn't it.
Speaker 3: That's going down in history books that no one can
Speaker 3: take it away from you. You know, to win the
Speaker 3: world's undisputed world world title, it's a huge thing. And
Speaker 3: also I get to Queen's exact my revenge on him,
Speaker 3: So it's a lot a lot of everything's on the
Speaker 3: line on this one. Everything's on the line, you know.
Speaker 1: That was actually one of the things I want to
Speaker 1: ask you is in your mind, which is like the
Speaker 1: bigger deal. Is it the revenge of the mono a
Speaker 1: mono or is it the history of becoming undisputed? That
Speaker 1: would be more to you, That would mean more to you.
Speaker 3: All of it really, because now I'm a different fighter
Speaker 3: from when I first fought and I had no real
Speaker 3: title belt. I mean, I was lacking up and comer,
Speaker 3: but I'm a world champion as well, and I feel
Speaker 3: like I'm I'm I'm on the table now and I
Speaker 3: need to kick him off the table and take all
Speaker 3: the belts.
Speaker 1: At twenty seven. Are you even in your prime yet?
Speaker 3: Of course I'm in of course I'm in. My problem
Speaker 3: this is you know, when I'm fresh and and I'm
Speaker 3: arrested for the for the fight, You'll see that. But
Speaker 3: I'm in my prob Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think about when you suffered the very difficult loss
Speaker 1: to Joe Joyce in twenty twenty. It was a major
Speaker 1: injury with your orbit bone. Uh, suffered the first defeat.
Speaker 1: A lot of people wrote you off at that point,
Speaker 1: at that moment when you were at the low point.
Speaker 1: I guess after that loss, did did you think about, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to be back at the top,
Speaker 1: not only at the top, but in one of the
Speaker 1: biggest fights in boxing, fighting for the undisputed heavyweight title.
Speaker 1: Or did that seem like it was a million years
Speaker 1: or a million miles away.
Speaker 3: Oh, there was no quitting me. I feel we're gonna
Speaker 3: come back. We're going to show everyone. Everyone has a
Speaker 3: lot to say when you're on, when you're down, So
Speaker 3: that just basiced me up to say, yeah, I'm glad
Speaker 3: that happened. You know a lot, Joe, a lot, you
Speaker 3: know that experience. Without that, I wouldn't be whey I'm today,
Speaker 3: So I think all of those those the pain makes
Speaker 3: you stronger.
Speaker 1: If you do become the undisputed heavyweight champion, as I
Speaker 1: know you're very confident that you will do. Is there
Speaker 1: a dream fight for you? There is a lot of
Speaker 1: names in the heavyweight division. I don't know if that
Speaker 1: means potentially a rematch against Joshua Tyson Fury, your countryman
Speaker 1: has decided to come out of retirement. Nobody's surprised there, Uh,
Speaker 1: that would be a big fight. Al So, what do
Speaker 1: you think about as far as like the biggest fight
Speaker 1: possible if you become the undisputed.
Speaker 3: Champet whoever once it can get that's my attitude. But
Speaker 3: how big would you fear want to fight? You know, massive?
Speaker 3: Wouldn't it massive? That that would be? That would take
Speaker 3: over everything? You know that that's that's got a bit
Speaker 3: the top of it, and I know you've definitely come
Speaker 3: back for that. So yeah, boxing's in a We're in
Speaker 3: a good place. We need to win on July, bashapoo'stick
Speaker 3: and take them belts away.
Speaker 1: Fury says he is coming back. And the thing I
Speaker 1: found interesting is that they're saying that he's gonna be
Speaker 1: fighting Alexander Usik in April in his next fight, And
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, Yeah, I mean, how's that gonna
Speaker 1: be if if Usak doesn't.
Speaker 3: Be for me, he's trying to just stay away from me.
Speaker 3: I mean, they already know I'm I'm the Jinks, the
Speaker 3: guy that you know they don't want to fight because
Speaker 3: you know I'm I'm not I'm that guy. So I'm
Speaker 3: gonna they try next stay away from me and need
Speaker 3: canna have a call with me to Camp Barn or whatever.
Speaker 3: But you know everyone knows the miss.
Speaker 2: Bucksimbo what I'll bring to the table. So I think
Speaker 2: you're doing do it now?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think i've ever heard Tyson Perry utter
Speaker 1: than name Daniel Juwabi forp. I guess maybe maybe he
Speaker 1: will if you become unders be the champ. If you do,
Speaker 1: I'll be a huge accomplishment. I wish you the best
Speaker 1: of luck in your in your efforts, and I appreciate
Speaker 1: your time today.
Speaker 2: Daniel. Good luck to you, but you're dead.