1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: It is my great pleasure to welcome for our podcast 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,719 this week, it is the IBF Heavyweight Champion of the World, 3 00:00:05,799 --> 00:00:08,720 Daniel Duguap and Daniel, You've got a very very big 4 00:00:08,759 --> 00:00:11,560 fight coming up. You're gonna be taken on. You are 5 00:00:11,599 --> 00:00:14,000 the IDF champion, will be taken on the video champion 6 00:00:14,279 --> 00:00:17,239 and the unified champion, Alexander Rusik. You guys will be 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,440 meeting for the undisputed heavyweight title. Will take place July 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,120 nineteenth on his own pay per view at what will 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,760 be a wild and packed Wembley Stadium in your hometown 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,000 of London. It's going to be a big one. Thank 11 00:00:28,039 --> 00:00:29,359 you very much for doing this, Daniel. 12 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:31,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, no pumping, man, no pumbling. 13 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,079 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you before we get into your 14 00:00:35,079 --> 00:00:37,479 fight coming up with Alexander Russik. I want to talk 15 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,359 a little bit about that incredibly impressive victory that you 16 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:43,679 scored in September in your last fight against Anthony Joshua, 17 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,560 a fighter that had been beaten two times by Alexander Russik, 18 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,159 but certainly not in the manner that you did it. 19 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,039 You didn't just beat Anthony Joshua, I mean you really 20 00:00:52,079 --> 00:00:55,799 destroyed him four knockdowns and a fourth round knockout that 21 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,600 many viewed as the knockout of the year. Just a 22 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,560 spectacular performance. And I'm sure that you were confident going 23 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,959 into that fight that you're gonna win defend your title. 24 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,480 But in your wildest dreams, did you think you're gonna 25 00:01:07,519 --> 00:01:09,519 take him out the way you took him out, even 26 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,640 easier than when Usak out pointed him twice and when 27 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,680 Andy Ruis knocked him out the first time they fought. 28 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, I'll bring the goods. You know. 29 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 3: My dad told me that this is that's the way, 30 00:01:21,239 --> 00:01:23,159 that's the way we'd have to fight. We would have 31 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,120 to make a rule. And yeah, no, I've got a 32 00:01:26,159 --> 00:01:30,120 fire power. And yeah, it was all about. 33 00:01:30,079 --> 00:01:30,799 Speaker 2: Just see. 34 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 3: He's in a moment, and that's what we did. Says 35 00:01:35,519 --> 00:01:37,000 the moment and come out about bell. 36 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so when you when you are, you're gonna be 37 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,480 taken on Usik in a rematch. Of course, anybody that 38 00:01:42,519 --> 00:01:45,159 follows boxing knows about that first fight. August two thousand 39 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,319 and twenty three. You were the WBA mandatory challenge. You 40 00:01:48,359 --> 00:01:51,359 guys fought in Poland and uh he scored a ninth 41 00:01:51,439 --> 00:01:54,439 round knockout against you. It was a very dominating performance. 42 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,200 I think even you would admit that by Usik. 43 00:01:56,799 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: Uh. 44 00:01:57,079 --> 00:01:59,159 Speaker 1: There was, of course the controversy in the fifth round 45 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,680 of what you believe was a legal punch with Alexander 46 00:02:02,799 --> 00:02:05,879 Usik and the referee thought was a low blow. But 47 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,719 after the fight continued once that was you know behind you, 48 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,719 I guess, and he was able to go on what 49 00:02:12,719 --> 00:02:16,120 what what prevented you, I guess from from exploiting what 50 00:02:16,159 --> 00:02:18,759 you had done to him with that shot where you 51 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,680 were really not able to get back into the fight 52 00:02:20,719 --> 00:02:22,159 after that, and then of course he went on to 53 00:02:22,199 --> 00:02:22,599 get the win. 54 00:02:23,599 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 3: Oh you're talking about the fight still? Oh really? How 55 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,120 can I say? I don't think I was at my 56 00:02:32,159 --> 00:02:36,639 best in that performance, you know, just everything surrounding the fight. 57 00:02:36,719 --> 00:02:39,319 But you know, I'm I think I feel that I'm 58 00:02:39,319 --> 00:02:43,240 a new different fight now, Oh no question. I'm a 59 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,039 man of the future. So that was in a past. 60 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,680 I'm a man of the future, and I need to 61 00:02:47,159 --> 00:02:49,120 prove that on the night that I'm not going to 62 00:02:49,199 --> 00:02:50,360 be the night I'm going to come in there and 63 00:02:50,479 --> 00:02:52,800 rip them bolts off of him. This is a new me, 64 00:02:53,199 --> 00:02:56,520 a new fight, and I have a job to do well. 65 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:57,240 I was going to get to that. 66 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought, since you're doing a rematch, it 67 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,159 made sense to at least have a brief conversation about 68 00:03:01,159 --> 00:03:03,319 the first flight. But as you mentioned, since then, you 69 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,240 have had three very significant victories. You beat the undefeated 70 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,960 all by knockout, by the way, the undefeated Gerald Big 71 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,639 Baby Miller, the undefeated Philip Perginage to get the interim delt. 72 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:15,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, all of them. 73 00:03:16,199 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 3: Was that the boogey man, they called him Herkovich, So yeah. 74 00:03:20,759 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: And then of course for josh Joshua also, Yeah, were 75 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,439 you at all discouraged though after you had the loss 76 00:03:27,439 --> 00:03:29,560 against Luis because it shouldn't seem like that the way 77 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,240 you fought those three guys I just mentioned. 78 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: No, I mean, I don't think I show my best 79 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,560 in the thick fight, and you know, I'm a bro fight. 80 00:03:39,639 --> 00:03:41,479 I don't want to go out like that. So you know, 81 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,680 I needed to show what you know, what we worked on, 82 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,719 you know what I've got in me, and you know, 83 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,599 having to wrot support around me, my dad, my team, 84 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,639 and you know, it was no question in my mind 85 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,599 that we had to come back again and we did that. 86 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think as you head into the 87 00:03:57,039 --> 00:04:00,360 rematch will be the biggest difference for you to the 88 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,439 way the first fight unfolded. 89 00:04:03,159 --> 00:04:05,479 Speaker 2: As I'm going to win. That's it simple. I'm going 90 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:05,840 to win. 91 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,919 Speaker 3: I'm going to win cleaning clinically with you know, you know, fireworks, 92 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,879 you know, knockouts, That's how. I'm not going to be denied, 93 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,720 whatever way, whatever way it goes down, I'm not going 94 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:17,319 to be denied. 95 00:04:18,439 --> 00:04:20,879 Speaker 1: He has been a great champion in the cruiserweight division. 96 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,800 He became the undisputed heavyweight champion. He has three of 97 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,800 the belts now the lineal title. But he's also thirty 98 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,160 eight years old. And after the fight he had with you, 99 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,600 he said, two very difficult, the hard fought victories against 100 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,759 Tyson Fury. How much do you think that those fights 101 00:04:35,759 --> 00:04:37,839 have taken out of Usak physically. 102 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:39,519 Speaker 2: A lot? 103 00:04:39,639 --> 00:04:42,759 Speaker 3: You know, those wars they always do. Any fighter will 104 00:04:42,759 --> 00:04:44,879 tell you that. But in my fact, I'm going to 105 00:04:44,959 --> 00:04:46,800 drag out a little bit more of and whatever he's 106 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,439 got left, I'm going to drag it out and turn 107 00:04:49,519 --> 00:04:52,000 him what they whatever they want to call it old 108 00:04:52,079 --> 00:04:53,560 or whatever they want to call it, but I'm going 109 00:04:53,639 --> 00:04:55,399 to drag it out of him and give him a 110 00:04:55,439 --> 00:04:55,920 real fight. 111 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say, you are on a 112 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,680 great role. As we just discussed your twenties. Seven years old, 113 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,319 you have an eleven age eleven year age advantage on 114 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,000 your on your behalf. How much do you think that 115 00:05:07,319 --> 00:05:10,720 your level of freshness and age plays a role in 116 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,519 what's gonna unfold on July nineteenth? 117 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: Massively? 118 00:05:14,079 --> 00:05:16,439 Speaker 3: Anyone will tell you, you know, you can feel good fit 119 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,560 and when you're training in the gym, but for your 120 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,560 eight year old man and still a for your eight 121 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,800 year old man, and you can you know, you feel 122 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,959 the I'll make him feel you know, the all the 123 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,079 injuries and all of that, whatever they want to say, 124 00:05:30,399 --> 00:05:33,959 But we're gonna come out on top. I'm young, I'm fresh, 125 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,680 and I'm in my prim right now. 126 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,199 Speaker 1: So one of the things that people have felt that 127 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,439 is that there is a vulnerability with USIK is the 128 00:05:42,439 --> 00:05:44,879 body shots. I mean, you believe that the body shot 129 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,839 did the damage in the first fight. Obviously some people 130 00:05:47,879 --> 00:05:49,920 thought it was a low blow. But how much is 131 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,920 the body attack do you think go to play a 132 00:05:51,959 --> 00:05:53,720 role for Daniel Dubois in the rematch? 133 00:05:54,639 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 3: Every attack really, body head just pull on him, pull 134 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,879 on him. I mean, as a real fighting man, I'll 135 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,839 just say put on him. You know we're gonna we've 136 00:06:02,879 --> 00:06:04,560 worked on in the gym what we need to do 137 00:06:04,639 --> 00:06:10,000 and how we're gonna execute it. But uh, yeah, we've 138 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,759 covered We're covering no thing. You know, we're not long 139 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,480 to go now, and I'm sure it's gonna be the 140 00:06:15,519 --> 00:06:18,000 world's gonna can't wait to see it. I can't wait 141 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,439 to deliver it when you find him. The first time 142 00:06:20,439 --> 00:06:21,000 it was in Poland. 143 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: It's sort of on his turf because it was the 144 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,160 closest place they can pop Wight fight by Ukraine. Now 145 00:06:26,199 --> 00:06:28,680 he's coming to London to fighting your hometown. Now, He's 146 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,000 been a man that's traveled his entire career. He's fought 147 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,759 everybody in their hometowns. But for you, though, how much 148 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,680 of a of a factors or for you instead of 149 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,600 fighting in Poland, is gonna be for you to fight 150 00:06:37,639 --> 00:06:38,199 him in London. 151 00:06:41,319 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be repeat as a AJ fight again, 152 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,079 repeat the same you know, the same kind of crowd 153 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,680 will be then, you know, we'll we'll create the same atmosphere, 154 00:06:50,759 --> 00:06:52,920 the same energy and we'll just do what we have 155 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:53,560 to do to win. 156 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, what would it mean to you, Daniel to become 157 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,800 the undisputed champion, you have a title presently, there hasn't 158 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,720 been a British undisputed champ since Lennox Lewis in nineteen 159 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,519 ninety nine. That would be a very historical accomplishment. 160 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:07,519 Speaker 2: Massive, isn't it. 161 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 3: That's going down in history books that no one can 162 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:12,079 take it away from you. You know, to win the 163 00:07:12,079 --> 00:07:17,439 world's undisputed world world title, it's a huge thing. And 164 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,560 also I get to Queen's exact my revenge on him, 165 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,000 So it's a lot a lot of everything's on the 166 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,600 line on this one. Everything's on the line, you know. 167 00:07:26,839 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: That was actually one of the things I want to 168 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,959 ask you is in your mind, which is like the 169 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,279 bigger deal. Is it the revenge of the mono a 170 00:07:33,319 --> 00:07:36,920 mono or is it the history of becoming undisputed? That 171 00:07:36,959 --> 00:07:38,720 would be more to you, That would mean more to you. 172 00:07:39,639 --> 00:07:42,079 Speaker 3: All of it really, because now I'm a different fighter 173 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:43,759 from when I first fought and I had no real 174 00:07:43,959 --> 00:07:46,560 title belt. I mean, I was lacking up and comer, 175 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,439 but I'm a world champion as well, and I feel 176 00:07:50,439 --> 00:07:53,720 like I'm I'm I'm on the table now and I 177 00:07:53,959 --> 00:07:56,240 need to kick him off the table and take all 178 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:57,959 the belts. 179 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,879 Speaker 1: At twenty seven. Are you even in your prime yet? 180 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,279 Speaker 3: Of course I'm in of course I'm in. My problem 181 00:08:04,639 --> 00:08:09,040 this is you know, when I'm fresh and and I'm 182 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,360 arrested for the for the fight, You'll see that. But 183 00:08:11,639 --> 00:08:13,879 I'm in my prob Yeah. 184 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,279 Speaker 1: I think about when you suffered the very difficult loss 185 00:08:16,279 --> 00:08:19,000 to Joe Joyce in twenty twenty. It was a major 186 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,000 injury with your orbit bone. Uh, suffered the first defeat. 187 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,160 A lot of people wrote you off at that point, 188 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,279 at that moment when you were at the low point. 189 00:08:27,279 --> 00:08:29,959 I guess after that loss, did did you think about, like, 190 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,800 you know, I'm going to be back at the top, 191 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:33,720 not only at the top, but in one of the 192 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,399 biggest fights in boxing, fighting for the undisputed heavyweight title. 193 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,639 Or did that seem like it was a million years 194 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:39,720 or a million miles away. 195 00:08:40,399 --> 00:08:42,879 Speaker 3: Oh, there was no quitting me. I feel we're gonna 196 00:08:42,879 --> 00:08:45,799 come back. We're going to show everyone. Everyone has a 197 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,840 lot to say when you're on, when you're down, So 198 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,000 that just basiced me up to say, yeah, I'm glad 199 00:08:51,919 --> 00:08:54,399 that happened. You know a lot, Joe, a lot, you 200 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,639 know that experience. Without that, I wouldn't be whey I'm today, 201 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,639 So I think all of those those the pain makes 202 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:02,679 you stronger. 203 00:09:04,159 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: If you do become the undisputed heavyweight champion, as I 204 00:09:06,399 --> 00:09:08,879 know you're very confident that you will do. Is there 205 00:09:08,879 --> 00:09:10,360 a dream fight for you? There is a lot of 206 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,120 names in the heavyweight division. I don't know if that 207 00:09:12,159 --> 00:09:16,480 means potentially a rematch against Joshua Tyson Fury, your countryman 208 00:09:16,519 --> 00:09:20,080 has decided to come out of retirement. Nobody's surprised there, Uh, 209 00:09:20,799 --> 00:09:22,080 that would be a big fight. Al So, what do 210 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,720 you think about as far as like the biggest fight 211 00:09:23,799 --> 00:09:26,080 possible if you become the undisputed. 212 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 3: Champet whoever once it can get that's my attitude. But 213 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,679 how big would you fear want to fight? You know, massive? 214 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,879 Wouldn't it massive? That that would be? That would take 215 00:09:41,879 --> 00:09:45,679 over everything? You know that that's that's got a bit 216 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,399 the top of it, and I know you've definitely come 217 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,960 back for that. So yeah, boxing's in a We're in 218 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,360 a good place. We need to win on July, bashapoo'stick 219 00:09:55,399 --> 00:09:56,360 and take them belts away. 220 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: Fury says he is coming back. And the thing I 221 00:09:59,039 --> 00:10:02,679 found interesting is that they're saying that he's gonna be 222 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,440 fighting Alexander Usik in April in his next fight, And 223 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,360 I thought to myself, Yeah, I mean, how's that gonna 224 00:10:08,399 --> 00:10:10,039 be if if Usak doesn't. 225 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,159 Speaker 3: Be for me, he's trying to just stay away from me. 226 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,799 I mean, they already know I'm I'm the Jinks, the 227 00:10:14,879 --> 00:10:16,919 guy that you know they don't want to fight because 228 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,720 you know I'm I'm not I'm that guy. So I'm 229 00:10:20,759 --> 00:10:22,559 gonna they try next stay away from me and need 230 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,080 canna have a call with me to Camp Barn or whatever. 231 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,919 But you know everyone knows the miss. 232 00:10:27,759 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: Bucksimbo what I'll bring to the table. So I think 233 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,200 you're doing do it now? 234 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: Well, I don't think i've ever heard Tyson Perry utter 235 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,240 than name Daniel Juwabi forp. I guess maybe maybe he 236 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,440 will if you become unders be the champ. If you do, 237 00:10:40,039 --> 00:10:41,799 I'll be a huge accomplishment. I wish you the best 238 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,240 of luck in your in your efforts, and I appreciate 239 00:10:44,279 --> 00:10:44,759 your time today. 240 00:10:44,799 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: Daniel. Good luck to you, but you're dead.