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Speaker 2: Last night I.

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Speaker 1: Started seeing a lot of the stories coming out of California,

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Southern California and the wildfires that are just devastating the

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areas out there. And as I look, I am not

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an expert unlike you know, deep water submersibles and Ukrainian

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Russian history.

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Speaker 2: I'm not an expert on.

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Speaker 1: Southern California geography and environmental policy and and all of

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the laws at the state and national and federal levels.

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But I have been reading people who do know what's

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going on now, but also what has kind of led

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up to this. So I put these into buckets of

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bad policy, bad politics, and bad priorities, and they're not

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if I were to do sort of Kamala Harris approved

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Ven diagram, there would be overlapping portions of these circles. Right,

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politics will often you know, influence not often, it always

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influences the policy.

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Speaker 2: What can you get done? What can't you get done?

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Speaker 1: The priorities is informed by and informs the politics and

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the policy. So there's a lot of overlap sort of

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in the center of the ven diagram there but bad policy,

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bad politics, and bad priorities. So you got to a

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lot of different angles on this story. First off, let's

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start with sort of an overview as to what's happening

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now is best I can surmise, and following the media reporting,

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one of the co owners of Trending Politics, a guy

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by the name of Colin Rugg r Ugg shared a

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video from Liz Kreutz from Malibu where the beachfront homes

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in Malibu have been completely destroyed all along the coast.

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The city of Malibu is urging all residents, even if

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they're not under mandatory evacuation orders. Malibu is urging everybody

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to get ready to leave if they haven't already. They're

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dealing with wind gusts up to one hundred miles per

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hour in the overnight hours. According to the Los Angeles

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Fire Department spokesperson Eric Scott. If you've ever been there,

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there was apparently a popular seafood restaurant called the Real

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Speaker 2: The Real In It is gone.

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Speaker 1: It's been completely raised to the ground. At least thirty

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thousand residents in southern California were forced to evacuate due

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to multiple wildfires that have destroyed thousands of acres in

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the area. The latest numbers that I saw was approaching

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three thousand acres, which is about four and a half

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to five square miles. That's in the Palisades fire. Then

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there are two other fires. There are a total of three.

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I'm not sure everybody is aware of that. There are

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actually three wildfires. We don't know what caused any of

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these at this time. But you've got the Palisades which

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was the biggest. There's also one called the eat In

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Fire E A t O N. The Eating Fire and

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the Hearst Fire h u rst. So the Eating Fire

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and the Hearst fire they broke out. So the Eating

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Fire was first reported in the early evening, like around

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six six thirty near Pasadena, California. The Hearst Fire broke

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out about four hours later. Near Silmar, California, and combined

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those two have more than eleven hundred acres destroyed between

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the two of them. I think the Hurst Fire is

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actually bigger than the Eating Fire, but they're zero containment

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on these things at this point, and you're dealing with

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these super strong winds.

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Speaker 2: As I mentioned, one hundred miles an hour.

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Speaker 1: They called them the Santa Anna winds, and I was

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not aware of this, but apparently the Santa Anna wins

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come from east to west, where like the normal the

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prevailing westerlies, that's you know, the wind comes from the

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west and goes across the entire country, moving to the

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east coast where we are, and so apparently the Santa

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Ana wins are going the opposite direction and creates all

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of this turbulence, the strong winds. They've got low humidity

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in the areas that has contributed to the rapid spread

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of these fires, and the conditions are expected to get

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worse as we move into tomorrow. So they're not even

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they're not even at the worst part of this yet

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as they expect.

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Speaker 2: According to cal Fire, a state.

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Speaker 1: Of emergency has been declared by the Governor Gavin Newsom

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posted on Twitter California has applied deployed fourteen hundred firefighting

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personnel and hundreds of prepositioned assets to combat these unprecedented

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fires in Los Angeles. The first fire was the Pacific

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Palisades Fire. The Palisades Fire, the Pacific Palisades is apparently

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a neighborhood and it's got a lot of houses packed

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in pretty tight around these curvy mountainous roads. And that

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one started yesterday morning at about ten thirty am. The

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winds and the unfavorable conditions caused that fire to spread

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very quickly and that's where it ravaged over like twenty

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nine hundred acres, still burning, still zero containment as of

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this morning. There are reports out of the area that

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firefighters have been giving up on some areas that cannot

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be saved and so and I understand, like you're in

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a triage mode, right, so you can't you can't get

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to certain areas or most disturbingly, there's no water in

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the fire hydrants. They've run through all the water, so

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they cannot put them out. Even if they can get

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to the area, they can't put them out. So they're

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relying on some of the aerial you know, fire suppression

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dumps that occur with the planes and the helicopters and stuff.

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But on the ground, if they're trying to get to

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an area, to a neighborhood or street and they want

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to plug into the hookup into the fire hydrant, they're

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finding that there's not water coming out of the hydrants.

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Speaker 2: They are also dealing with power outages.

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Speaker 1: I was not aware, but apparently they shut down, they

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turn off people's power in these types of fire events,

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they turn them off, They turn the power off, and

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I'll get to that. The AP reported on that as well,

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and because there's a fire hazard associated with that, so

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people are on a able to make contact with loved ones,

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much like we saw in western North Carolina where due

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to the Hurricane Helene aftermath and the mud slides, rock slides,

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flooding and all that power was taken out. Cell phone

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communications were all taken out and that made it very

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difficult not just to get in contact with people, but

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also to get emergency response to the areas where people

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needed help.

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Speaker 2: This is from to Do.

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Speaker 1: This is from k t l A, which, by the way,

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if you are looking for news sources to see what's

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going on, go to the local news organizations. I'm not

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saying you should only go there. I always say get

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your news from multiple sources. But a lot of the

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local outlets are doing a lot of great work because

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they know the area, right, They know the people, they

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know the streets, they know who to talk to, and

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they and they have experience with this kind of you know,

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these kinds of wildfires, because this happens, right, This happens

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in California for a number of reasons. Some of it

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is environmental, yes, but a lot of it is bad policy,

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bad policy. And I don't know how many more of

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these types of catastrophes we have to see before people

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start waking up to the fact that what they have

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been doing and what they have been advocating for is

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actually detrimental, is actually causing more loss of life, more

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loss of structures, more environmental damage. Right, because burning four

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thousand and five thousand acres of buildings and cars and such,

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that's not good for the environment, right, If you care

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Speaker 2: Bass or Bass but Bass.

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Speaker 1: She I believe was a congresswoman from California, and she's

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now the mayor of Los Angeles. And Jim Garretty, writing

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at National Review, posted up onto Twitter. Actually, he says,

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in what must be the most unfortunately timed trip since

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Texas Senator Ted Cruz took his family on vacation in Aruba,

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Karen Bass was roughly seventy four hundred miles away from

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her city as the fires engulf did. She was honoring

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the inauguration of a man most Angelinos have never heard of,

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in a place most of them could not find on

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a map. Mayor Bass is in Ghana for an inauguration

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of the president there. She is there as part of

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a presidential delegation of some kind. Very politically unfortunate. As

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Will Collier points out, she's probably gana regret that trip.

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Speaker 2: That's probably well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, obviously she could not have known right

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that this was going to happen when she agreed to

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and then took the trip. But she I'm not sure

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she better be on a plane heading back, because she's

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the mayor of Los Angeles and that's where this is occurring.

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Speaker 2: This is La County.

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Speaker 1: Evacuations were ordered for the entire Palisades community down to

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the Pacific Ocean, according to cal Fire. During a Tuesday

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afternoon press conference, officials said more than ten thousand homes

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in Pacific Palisade and Malibu were affected by the evacuation order,

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and warnings also extended into areas of Santa Monica and Calabasas.

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If you have seen any of the you know, I

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don't know, the ten thousand foot elevation views, like the

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whole picture, if you will in your mind a you know,

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you got the Pacific Ocean on the left side there,

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and then you've got the city, you know, Pacific Palisades, Malibu.

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Speaker 2: You got all of that up against the water.

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Speaker 1: And then you've got this sort of crescent that runs

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from the top the northern part around the city, and

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it runs sort of in this crescent shape from the

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top left all the way around to like the midway

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through the right side, the eastern side, and that's a

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mountain chain that's right there. There's a bunch of mountains there,

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and so this area is in a bit of a valley,

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and then on the other side of the mountain there's

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more housing and that sort of stuff. And so the

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big fear now is that this fire is going to

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get across that mountain chain, across those mountains, and once

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that happens, it's going to spread through that whole area

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on the northern side as well. Pacific Palisades is about

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ten miles from Malibu, and both areas have been affected.

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Malibu is where the Franklin Fire burned more than four

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thousand acres and several homes when it erupted with windy

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conditions back in December. Okay, so again, this is not

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a new thing for California. However, because it is not new,

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and because these conditions are persistent, they've existed before humans

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ever got there, there are things that humans can do

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to mitigate the devastation when these conditions kind of converge

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into a wild fire. And however it was sparked, we

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don't know yet. It could have been like I saw

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one video a woman caught another woman lighting fires along

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just in like some desert scrubland area. She had just

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the woman I think is obviously mentally deranged in some manner,

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and she was just piling up a bunch of stuff

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and setting it on fire, saying that this was a

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good thing to do. Yeah, there are a lot of

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crazy people out there that do crazy things, and so

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that may be how this started. Could have been you know, arson,

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it could have been accidental. There's also a problem with

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homeless encampments where people gather around, they're in RVs, or

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they're intense, and they set fires to you know, keep

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themselves warm at night, or to cook over, and then

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those fires get out of control. That's another part of

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this story. That's another angle. All right, I hope you

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had a happy holiday season. But tell me if something

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you're laughing, swapping stories, reminiscing, and then somebody says, hey, Dad,

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remember those old VHS tapes? Did you ever get them transferred?

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And then the room gets all quiet. All eyes are

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on Dad, who says, oh, you know, well, I've been

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meaning to but I just having gotten around to it. Look,

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to watch them together. Talk about a memorable gift.

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Speaker 2: So do what I did.

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create a Video dot com. So, about fifteen thousand utility

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customers in southern California had their power shut off to

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reduce the risk of equipment sparking another fire. Half a

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million customers total are at risk of losing power preemptively. Okay,

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so they're going to shut people's power off even though

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they're not you know, they're not being affected directly yet

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by the wobfires there.

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Speaker 2: Now I mentioned.

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Speaker 1: You've got the politics, you've got the policy, and you've

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got priorities. And again they all sort of intersect in

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certain parts. So for example, there's a writer at RedState

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dot com named Banchi and has he's posted a bunch

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of stuff regarding some of the policy that are informed

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by the politics and priorities California. He says, has been

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throttling or shutting off water to southern California for decades

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in a vain attempt to save a three inch long

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minnow like fish. This is tiny little minnow that they're

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trying to save, which is which makes sense because like,

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but I thought the minnow was only gone a three

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hour tour. But it doesn't matter anyway. Trump tried to

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change that, and he was opposed, and he's got a

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series of headlines here. I'll just read them real quick.

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At San Francisco, Delta smelt that's the name of the

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It's a smelt fish. It's not like you know, Delta

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smelt it anyway, the tiny fish caught in California's war

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with Trump, harbingers of a diminishing ecosystem. The smelt are

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almost extinct now, forces then the Trump administration could usher

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them into oblivion. Or this one Delta pumps throttled back

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despite rains, cutting California water deliveries in order to protect

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fish Delta smelt shuts down major water supply. That's the

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fish is shutting down the water supply, and the report

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is all it took was a sparse population of minnow

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like smelt and two days for state and federal water

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contractors to turn off the drinking and irrigation water spigots

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for twenty five million Californians and almost a million acres

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of farmland. The Department of Water Resources stopped pumping at

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state water project facilities in the Delta in late May

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to protect the Delta smelt. A day later, federal officials

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dramatically cut back the amount of water being pumped to

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farmers in southern California cities to the lowest level ever

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in an attempt to save the endane Delta smelt. That

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was a story from two thousand and seven. Two thousand

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and seven. Why California has not built desalinization plants all

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over its coastline at this point is beyond me. I

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do not understand. Once again, bad priorities, bad politics. While

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California's water management is a big issue, Bonchi says, it

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is also true that these fires typically start on federal

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lands guests whose administration canceled controlled burns crucial controlled burns

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this past fall. Why Bonchi says, so they wouldn't look

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bad if something went wrong, Well, that would be Joseph

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Robinette Biden KQED reported Forest Service Holtz prescribed burns in California.

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Speaker 2: Is it worth the risk? And there's a quoted in.

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Speaker 1: There from an official who says, I think the Forest

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Service is worried about the risk of something bad happening

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with a prescribed burn, and they're willing to trade that risk,

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which they will be blamed for for increased.

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Speaker 2: Risks on wildfires.

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Speaker 1: In the event of a wildfire, if something bad happens,

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they're much less likely to be blamed because they can

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point the finger at Mother Nature.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Always try to look for the incentives that people are

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responding to, and this would have been in October October

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twenty twenty four. The federal government not wanting to risk

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things getting out of control with a prescribed burn and

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negatively impacting Kamala Harris's chances of winning re election, they

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didn't want that on them, and so they just didn't

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do the burn. They delayed the burn, and then if

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something bad happens, if a burn does erupt, a wildfire

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does erupt, well, then they could just blame Gaya Earth.

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Speaker 2: And that's right.

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Speaker 1: Climate change. Climate change is the reason why. Supposedly, this

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is Bernie Sanders on Twitter. He says, eight months since

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the area has seen rain, the scale of damage and

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loss is unimaginable. Climate change is real, not a hoax.

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Donald Trump must treat this like the existential crisis. It

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is right, it's not my best Bernie impression, that is true.

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But this is not climate change. Okay, this is not

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climate change. This is a failure of man. This is

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human failure. Bad priorities. Did you know that Los Angeles

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County cut funding to the fire department last in this

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year's budget, Like I think it was like almost twenty

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million dollars they cut out of their budget. Right, these

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are priorities, These are policy decisions. Not building desalinization plants,

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not doing prescribed burns, the controlled burns when you should

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be doing them. And why do you do that? Why

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do you do the prescribed burns, these controlled burns?

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Speaker 2: Why do you do them?

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Speaker 1: It's to clear out the underbrush in a small contained area,

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So this way you don't have fuel for these wildfires. Right,

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it's harder for a wildfire to spread if you don't

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have all of this underbrush. And you remember, Donald Trump

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made a comment about this, talking about raking leaves. Remember,

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and oh, it was so hilarious. He's so stupid. What

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is he talking about? And raking the leaves and all

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of this, this is what he's talking about. Maybe if

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people were to instead of automatically mocking and rejecting what

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Trump is saying, maybe if people were to listen a

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little bit to what it is that he's may I

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even say the term in artfully describing, right, because he

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was correct. There are leaves that need to be burned

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out of there, not raked up. You're not going to

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rake a forest, but that underbrush, that scrub that needs

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to be controlled. And that's why you do the controlled burns.

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Speaker 2: But you don't.

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Speaker 1: These governments don't do it because the environmentalist wackos refuse

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to allow them to do it. And so now this

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has become an embedded article of faith inside the left

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and the Democrat Party that they can't do them. And

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this is what you see, This is what we get,

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all right, if you're listening to this show, you know,

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me say get your news from multiple sources. Why, Well,

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a writer at RedState dot com, going over some of

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the recent history of California's complete garbage management of fire

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and forest land. During Donald Trump's first term, he tried

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to increase water diversions on federal land to help calif

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Fifornia's water supply. The state of California and various environmental

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groups sued him and won. Once again, owning the Orange

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Man took priority over protecting people. Joe Biden, he says,

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canceled planned controlled burns in October because he didn't want

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his administration to be blamed if a fire got out

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of hand. California has not built a new reservoir since

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nineteen seventy nine. Well it's a good thing. I mean

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they're not growing or anything. Well they're actually not anymore.

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But this is part of the problem that they didn't

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fill the reservoirs. And the reason they didn't fill the

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reservoirs was related to these policies and politics that say

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you've got to protect.

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Speaker 2: This smelt minnow fish. Right.

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Speaker 1: This is why so many like the environmentalist movement, like

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I call them watermelons, because they are, you know, green

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on the outside, red on the inside.

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Speaker 2: They're commis. They're not actually for progress.

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Speaker 1: Despite the fact that they like to call themselves progressives,

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they're actually not progressive. They don't want to progress. They

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want to actually regress, they want to go backwards.

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Speaker 2: They don't want people on this land.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure some of them are going to be perfectly fine, like, well,

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I guess we shouldn't build there anymore. Let's just leave

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it all up to let nature take it take it over.

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Speaker 2: You know. There is also a guy named Sam Stein.

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He is an MSNBC guy.

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Speaker 1: He also writes at the Bulwark and he says the

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swift devastation of the Palisades fire is horrible. And then

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it dawns on you that Trump, set to take office

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in thirteen days, has threatened publicly to cut wildfire aid

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to the state, and this prompted a response from a

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fellow on Twitter named Jarvis, who is well worth the

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follow Jarvis underscore best Jarvis best. He says, a lot

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of people are you know, dunking on Sam Stein for

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this post that he made. He said, but let me explain. See,

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one of the rules of journalisming is that whenever something

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bad happens, you have to blame the bad thing on

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what's called the RICP, the RIICP, which stands for Republican

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in Closest Proximity the RIICP. So you find So if

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it happens in like a Democrat controlled city, then you

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got to go to, say, the republican governor. Oh no,

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in California, they got a Democrat governor. Okay, so now

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we got to go to the president. Oh no, we

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have a Democrat president. So now like, if you are

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stuck with this Democrat mayor, Democrat governor Democrat president, then

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there's nobody to blame. There's no Republican in proximity for

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the bad thing, because there's there's no RIIC in those cases.

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Then you have to pivot to what's called the h RIICP,

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which is the hypothetical Republican in closest proximity, right, And

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that's when you imagine how bad this would be if

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there was a Republican around, right, Because you can't blame

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a Democrat mayor for the decisions about filling the reservoirs.

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You can't or cutting the funding for the firefighters and such,

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you can't blame them. You can't blame the governor for

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diverting all of the snowfall that came in the mountains

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and sending it to the Pacific Ocean. You can't blame them.

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So you got to then go to the president, but

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you can't blame him for not doing the controlled burns

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because he's a Democrat. So then you got to go

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to what would have been like had there been a

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Republican doing something, and that would have been way worse.

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Can you imagine how much worse the hellscape would be

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if a Republican had any kind of proximity to the

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levers of power. Luckily we have the babylon Bee with

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this headline that Governor Newsom has ordered all trees to

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wear masks to prevent the spread of the wildfires.

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Speaker 2: That's it's a national treasure, the Babylon Bee.

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Speaker 1: California has a huge population, not just because it's huge geographically,

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but because for decades, according to Fisher King, it had

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a reputation for being a clean, fun and well governed state.

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It was actually a reliably GOP state in presidential elections

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all the way through nineteen ninety two. People wanted to

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live there. You got the sun, you got the beaches,

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you got the mountains. Right, it was a Tier one

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first World country. But you get the politics wrong, and

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you can do a real number on a place. And

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that's what California is reckoning. With Dave Rubin, host of

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The Ruben Report. Former liberal from California, now more of

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a libertarian conservatorian type of guy, does a podcast show.

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He said, a few weeks ago, he appeared on Piers

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Morgan's show, and he got into this fight with Chank Uger,

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one of the founders of the Young Turks Right, and

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they were arguing over diversity, equity and inclusion, which, by

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the way, good news. The chief of the fire department

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in Los Angeles is LGBTQ and has a focus on

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diversity and inclusion, so thank god, that's going to help

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us fight the fires there. He points out that DEI

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isn't just wrong because it's repackaged racism. He says it's

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also wrong because once it enters a system, it takes

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attention and resources away from the actual mandate of the institution.

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There is finite time and manpower and funding, and if

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you choose to waste your time and your man power

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and your funding on DEI, your core competency will diminish.

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Speaker 2: It is as simple as that.

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Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you

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so much for listening. I could not do the show

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without your support and the support of the businesses. That

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advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support

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can also become a patron at my Patreon page or

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go to dpetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much

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for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.

