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Speaker 2: Oh doing good. I've been looking forward to doing this
all week.
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is mister Jeff Younger. Thank you for coming on, Sir.
Speaker 3: Haldi, thanks for having me. And if there's going to
be a Hate the Gop Barbecue, thanks for inviting me.
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Speaker 3: Well, the state of Texas. I was one of the
first cases where a crazy ass liberal wife tried to
transition us a boy to a girl. Was my son.
His name is James. I fought for ten years here
in Texas and successfully got a law to pass. The
law to outlaw here in Texas took me six years
and about one hundred and sixty grand to buy off
the Texas legislature to get that done. The Republican Party
fought me every step of the way, so eventually the
judge allowed her to move my son to California, where
these procedures were legal. Then I had a trial in California.
I lost there. He was chemically castrated last year. But
since then I can't talk about it because I'm under
seal from the US Attorney's office. But I shut down
the gender clinic my son was in. I shut on
the gender clinic their expert witness worked at in the
Boston in Boston area. I'm about to shut down the
gender clinic in San Francisco. And every time she tries
to put my son in one of these clinics, I'm
gonna shut it down. And along the way, I've learned
a lot about how laws are actually made. I've learned
a lot about the GOP. I learned a lot about
the oligarchic control of the parties and the transnational interests
that have been promoting the abuse of children. You can
find me at Jeff Younger Show on x Facebook and YouTube.
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Now for everybody, it's probably known about this at this point.
The brief recap of what happened. But you know, Governor
Glenn Younkin kind of fumbled his way into the governorship
during the previous election because of that horrible story of
a troon sexually harassing a young girl in a high
school bathroom. People remember that correctly, and that broke out
just a week before the election, and that kind of
actually catapulted him to victory. So I don't really think
this guy really actually expected to win. But what did
he do for his ten year as governor? Well, he
did what the GOP always does, unless you're Ronda Santis.
Interestingly enough, you do not secure the voting roles, and
you actually don't secure power for the next election. And
even worse, Ohio is doing a run of this right now.
Looks like Florida might be doing this again. But they
didn't have a primary for the governor, and so who
do they choose, Well, they choose the Jamaican immigrant black
woman Winsome Earl Sears, no never Trumper, known complainer about
the Confederate statues, which I'm sure pulled very well with
the white rule vote in a place earn a state
is important to the Confederate as Virginia is, and naturally
she got her shit kicked in by Abigail Spanberger who
came in. And you know, this is just a perfect
example of the things that we talked about on the
show all the time of the worst traits of the GOP.
And Jeff here, I'm sure he can tell us quite
a bit of what it is like actually dealing with
these people who are in power just you know, to
be the eternal whipping boys of the left and collect
their paycheck. And you know, it's so crazy because when
the Democrats campaign, they campaign like you know, moderates, and
then they come into government like Mao. And then the
Republicans they campaigned like moderates and they come in and
they governed like Stalin. So it's it's just horrible. We
have like two terrible choices. So, Jeff, I'm sure or
maybe you weren't watching this too closely, but what is
your opening opinions on the situation in Virginia. We're really
surprised by this. Were you shocked at all?
Speaker 3: No? I mean, the Republican candidate was put there to lose. Obviously,
no rational person would have touched any possibility to win.
And the macro analysis is basically this, There's just no
such thing as the United States. There's no such thing
as the legislature. These are abstractions that don't really exist.
What's going on is that there's there's economic oligarchies that
run things and they compete with one another, and so
there's families and organizations and consortia that decide who's going
to get what right. And I can give you some
great examples out of Texas more so than out of Virginia.
But you know, the donor class often wants the GOP
to lose on issues. And the way it works in
Texas is they'll have the GOP do something that seems
very conservative, but put loopholes in it so that it
doesn't work. You know. That's how we can pass border
bill after border bill after border bill, but the border
is never secured. It always has loopholes. There's always asylum
loopholes or something where people can get in. And that's
just because the donor class wants it. I mean, my
first introduction to this was when I realized that the
transgender movement was started by Republican donors, not by Democrat donors.
The largest donor to the Republican Party is a guy
named Paul Singer, and if you go out to the
conservative think tank, the Manhattan Institute, you can see videos
of him talking about why he believes in transgender ideology
and why he funds it. He funded the Human Rights
Campaign and that pushed all of this crazy transgender stuff
into corporations, and so all of it is designed to
look like it's conservative, you know, and you know, you
can just hear the kind of things that were said
about the candidate Virginia. You know, this is a true
immigrant success story. This is American's apple Pie and all
this stuff. But what was really happening is the donors
decided that in that state she had to lose, and
they needed a loser, and they paid for that and
they got that, and that's how things actually work. So
if you want to think through the power, it's really
not through the parties. It's through the donor class that
you will find how power is really exercised. Even in Virginia.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you think, Pete.
Speaker 2: I think our friend, our brother, Jay Burden has a
done great work on this as a Virginia resident. I
think he had Mark from the Good Old Boys on
and they're up there and also he had a talk
with Stormy and they're of the opinion that this was
done on purpose. That basically the GOP is just giving,
you know, giving the Virginia a Libtard Reich, you know,
for a thousand year olib chard Reke, just like they're
trying to do in Ohio. There's no other reason in
Ohio to run a jeet then, you know, then to
have people go, yeah, you know, I think I'd rather
just vote for the white woman. Yeah, she's gonna suck,
but at least, I mean the governor's mansion isn't gonna
smell like shit, you know, So the it's it's obvious.
And I fully agree with the theory that Stormy and
Jay came up with on the fly that the reason
they're imploding the GOP, that there's a certain group that's
imploding the GOP is because they see people who think
like we do getting elected, getting appointed, getting jobs in
the government, and they're like, well, we can't, we'd rather
you know. And and this this certain group they go
from left to right. They're not they don't care if
if they're a Republican or a Democrat. You know, a
lot of these a lot of this group who is
who are on the right right now and talking about
immigration and talking about Islam. These are the same people
who were pushing These are the same people who were
pushing transgenderism and and DEI and all of this just
a couple of years ago. Then after October seventh, they saw, oh,
look at this, the country is noticing that, you know,
we run things right. And it's like, well, the only
thing they're not going to become Democrats and take over
the Democrat Party. The only thing they can do is
is take is infiltrate the GOP. Okay, yeah, let's implode
the GOP and as soon as the GOP is destroyed,
we'll become Democrats again.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think that's that's exactly right. And I actually
think that was the origin of the lawfair against Trump.
You know, Trump was rich enough that he can kind
of do whatever he wanted, so they initiated lawfair against Trump,
and then they froze all of his bank accounts and
he was forced to take money from donors. And that's
how you get Miriam Medelson being his number one donor,
you know, a casino magnate with associations with you know,
organized crime, a person who funded the transgender story hours
for kids and libraries across the country. If you wonder
who that was, it was Miriam Medelson Trump's or just donor.
And she's the one who put is the largest funder
of the Republican National Committee. And every single r n
C it's broadcast, you'll see a transvestie up on stage,
the same people.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I want to circle back really
quickly to this line about you know, intentionally destroying and
crashing the GOP because they see, you know, what they
perceive as intruders and interlopers and people like us, right,
you know, getting into positions. I mean you clearly see
this with the attack vector from people like James Lindsay
or others.
Speaker 4: You know, just like this like woke right term.
Speaker 1: Right, it's and it's and it's intentionally used to branch
people like you know, Nick Fuentez, people Tucker Carlson, you know,
anybody else all the way up to jd Vance right.
And it's basically a term trying to get the GOP
donor class to just completely disavowed the actually engaged youth
of their party and of their movements. Now, I mean
it's crazy, like when you go to any of the
like GOP meetups or something. We were talking about this
just before we came on air, Jeff. It's like, okay,
so the GOP treats their young guys who are interested
in getting in involved with the movement. They say on
paper like, oh, it's a bunch of old heads. How
come we aren't getting the youth involved in all this stuff.
It's like, well, you pay these guys like ten bucks
an hour if it's not just like volunteer work, and
we're going to get into this in Virginia. But Virginia
is now attempting to pass unlimited taxpayer funding for houses
of Democrat workers in the state of Virginia. It's like
the goopeople give you ten bucks an hour. The Democrats
will literally buy you a mansion at the taxpayer's time. Yeah,
you know, we're talking about bog Beef earlier. You know
about the good old boys and the thing. Those guys
are always talking about his client patronage. And the Democrats
are actually a political machine. They actually know what it
means to win, to use power, and to fund their
friends and to punish their enemies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I ran for office here in Texas
in House District sixty three, and it's a small, very
small house district. It's just the southern half of one
county and the governor and the donor packs here, which
one of them is called Texans for Lawsuit Reform. When
I when I after a year, when I was able
to add up all of the dark money and everything
that went into the race, they spent over four point
seven million dollars to keep me out of the Texas House.
Can you I mean, in a little race like that,
this just unbelievable, right, but it shows you that they
are absolutely terrified of actual right wing people. Right, if
you're right wing and you're willing to say it and
you're willing to normalize that, they're absolutely terrified of people
like that. And so the but the principle that they
they fundamentally can't get, can't allow to happen in the
Publican Party is organization of those young right wing men.
So when I ran for office, i used my middle
name and I went into Dallas count which is very
liberal and it's right next to me, and I went
to a Democrat meeting, like one of the Democrat clubs,
like we have Republican clubs. And it was weird because
it was you know, you go to a Republican club,
it's held in the evenings. You'll have a cocktail soaree,
You'll get to talk to judges, mayors and all these people,
and then you'll have a talk by a charismatic speaker
on some geneoistic subject or whatever, and then everybody goes home. Right,
that's basically what a Republican club does. It's kind of
an erasing awareness thing. So I thought it was weird.
I was going to this Democrat club meeting in Dallas,
and it was held in the middle of the day
on a Saturday, which I thought was weird because you
can't have a cocktail sware in the middle of the day.
I went in a suit, and I look pretty out
of place because it was actually turned out to be
a gymnasium. I walk in and there's like blue haired
lesbians at a table and I just walked up to
one of them and said, hey, you know, my name
is Damon and I used to be a Republican, but
the transgender issue really flipped me over to the Democrat Party.
And they were just like, so please, and they found
out a lot about me, talk to me, and then
they said, well, is that what really interests you? And
I said, yeah, the transgender You said great, go into
the gymnasium and go to table six. So literally table six.
I go over there and there's more blue haired lesbians there,
and they give me this notebook and they say, look,
here's the deal. This is a program to get you
elected to precinct chair in your county and if you
do the following steps, and there were things like you
get twenty people to your house for a meeting, and
then you broadcast it online with the Dallas Party, they
would give you two hundred dollars in budget, right, and
you start meeting these these milestones, and it was just
they gave me this notebook and it was just a
game plan for how to take over my precinct. And
they said, if we get enough people that are precinct chairs,
we have another game plan for how to take over
the entire county. And at each step along the way
to the point where you're getting ten thousand dollars a
year to run your little organization in your county. Like
they don't waste time on cocktail soires, Like they go
there to work and find out what works. I mean,
they had it down to phone call scripts, email scripts.
If I got fifty people three times to meetings, they
were going to give me a website and they would
do emails for free inside my precinct. I mean, they
were totally organized. And you know, in the Republican Party,
if you look at what precinc chairs get at the
county level, they get literally nothing. They got no email,
they don't don't even they don't even have a system
to notify people of county events in their own party. Okay,
And you try. I said, well, okay, I do software engineering,
I'll build one. As soon as I started to do that,
people came out of the would work to stop me.
The powers that be and the GOP don't want honest
to organize like that. They're afraid of us organizing like that.
And so that's the difference between the Republican Party and
the Democrat Party. They organize for power, and we organize
for uh, you know, social events.
Speaker 1: We organize. We organized to feel good. Now, this is
like one of the one of the huge issues you
run into whenever you're talking to like boomers or something.
They think that, uh, the entire summary of their political
engagement is voting on election day and then occasionally donating
money to some like political cause occasionally that's it, you know,
and you know, you totally see this, like when you
go to these various sum like GOP events or cocktail
hours or stuff like this, it's like, oh, look, guys,
we're politically engaging. We're all getting together in one room,
and you know, we're all talking about the same thing.
This is how you organize, this is how you do
it right. But then like the actual GOP when they
see somebody like you who's actually trying to take initiative
and actually do something and actually win, you know, like
you know what the voters asking or whatever. Yeah, they're
like like, no, sir, you're not supposed to do anything.
You're not supposed to win.
Speaker 3: You're supposed to I saw the looks that I saw
on people's faces in Austin. They were actually terrified. Like
I had political consultants calling me from Austin saying that, like,
you know, my name is being mentioned in every meeting
in the House of Representatives of the Senate, like everybody's
talking about making sure that I don't win. And the
proposal that scared them the most was my proposal to
land mine the southern border in Texas because I went
down to the Texas National Harleyon. Yeah, well, I went
down to the Texas National Garden Harling Gen and I
talked to the colonel down there that ran the Combat
Engineer Battalion, and I assumed it was similar like when
I was in the Marine Corps. They have similar capabilities
they have. The Texas itself has mind layers and they
can lay a mile of mines every three hout and
a mind costs seventy five cents. That's what the DoD
pays for them, seventy five cents. So we could mind
the entire Texas border for less than four million dollars
and completely shut down all illegal egress, force every single
person through a legal part of entry. And that is
the one that's apparently scared in the most. I'll leave
it to your imagination figure out why that might be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, all the funding would you know, dry
up instantly for you know, them attempting to solve the problem,
you know.
Speaker 2: About the kids that they're having sex from for getting
into the freaking country.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what it was. It would also stop gun
running across the border to the senor lower cartel. So
there's a lot of stuff that would just be terminated
by that, and they were just simply not going to
let me do that. I also had an AI regulation
bill that would prevent companies from de anonymizing data Texas citizens,
and that's gear the shit out of them too.
Speaker 2: You know, I was thinking about this today when I
was interacting with a libertarian on Facebook. I was thinking
to myself, you know, yeah, I know, sorry, Jeff, I
was thinking to myself, you know, they ran a gay
a gay guy for president, you know, in twenty twenty four.
And then I'm thinking, but the whole but the GOP
is just loaded down with facts, it is. I mean,
let me. I interviewed an Orthodox priest, father Lemmelson, on
the show, and he was taken into court by the sec.
Every single lawyer, every single prosecutor was gay.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: A woman who Yeah, it's I mean, you can't. Yeah,
this could take us off on a tangent. But if
you consider this to be a Christian country, yeah, and
you're asking God to bless the country, right, maybe don't
have sodomites be in charge of the country.
Speaker 3: Dude. They run everything. They run everything, man, And the
reason is we all know how this works, right. They
have extremely high pardon upon in group preferences and organized
minority they do. Yeah, and they they're free to organize
because they're a protected group, so they can discriminate in
their favor Legally, it's very easy for them to do that.
And so they're just going to beat people who won't
to firmentively discriminate for what they want to do. You know,
one of the tactics they used in Texas they accuse
me of being gay they accuse me of being gay.
Speaker 2: Did you ask them why that would be a bad thing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know exactly exactly. Well, back in my liver
territard phase, when I in my misspent youth, when I
was eighteen years old, I did lead a protest and
I did throw some trash on base into a trash can,
and I did get captains mastered for that, Like I
got put at hard labor for six weeks for that.
So I was I'm a I'm a recovering twelve step libertarian,
you know, and have to stand in front of the Yeah,
I'm just stand in front of the mirror every day
and go, men are more free under monarchy. Men are
more free under monarchy. I'd say that three times every
morning to make sure I don't slip back into my
evil ways. But that's what they used against me. They
did all kinds of stuff. They went after women I
had been with, and it was amazing, like they had
no limits. They have absolutely no limits. And every single
one of the political consultants that I was going up
against were gay. And my opponent's chief of staff is
gay and he runs he runs this district. Now they're
all gay.
Speaker 1: Wow, Well, asmuch as we could talk about what we
would like to you know, see happen to these people
losing their positions and whatnot. Let's circle back to Virginia
here we actually have a summary of So naturally, you know,
Governor Spamberger gets into power, of course, after running on
her very moderate Democrat platform, which all of us know
at this point, I mean, are there any moderate Democrats? No?
But so this comes from Lee the Greater here. So
the Democrat Party has been back in power in Virginia
for forty eight hours now, and in this time they
published legislation to make it illegal to hand count votes,
robocount only screen public school kids for conservative beliefs, allow
the kids, allow the killing of babies up into the
day of birth. Reduce or eliminate penalties for theft or robbery,
Launch a massive home daycare grant program, literally the same
shit that's going on with somalis in Minnesota right now.
Prohibit telling a jury about defendant's prior convictions. Allow mail
in voting by incapacitated persons, band shooting firearms on personal
property less than five acres. Raised taxes on basically everything,
allowed for property tax exemptions for federal employees, affected by
the Trump firings, massive increases in gun restrictions, uncapped grants
for government employees to purchase homes with. There you go.
And that's just some of it. There's even more expensive
lists than this out there.
Speaker 3: You have to admire them. This is the thing, man,
it's uh, you know, having having you know, gone into
electoral battles with them, and I and I've been doing
this since the late eighties, you know, I admire our enemies.
I mean, they use power when they get in and
they'll probably get every single one of those bills. They'll
get every one of them passed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep.
Speaker 1: I mean they're they're full lockstep now with the judiciary,
the legislature, the majorities and everything. The only ones they
might not get passed are the ones that are forced
to be on the ballot, you know, like the abortion one.
But you know, even then, it's just it's like, what
does even matter like voting at the point if you
just have I legal hand counts, it could be robotic
only mail in ballots all over the place. I mean,
they're just securing the back. They get into power, and
the first thing they do, it's like, okay, we're gonna
make it easier for us to win next time.
Speaker 3: That's it. I mean, yeah, if these things pass and
you're you're a right winger, your best bet is just
to join the Democratic Party and try to subvert it.
That's the best you'll get.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is literally, this is Bolshevism. I mean,
this is exactly what they did. They did when they
took over, when they destroyed Russia in nineteen seventeen. Yeah,
I mean the you know Lenin famously, what's Lenin? The
first law that Lenin laid out, You're not allowed to
speak poorly about this group of people or else he
gets shot, right, and then they took over, and I
mean this is just a list of modern day Bolshevism.
Speaker 1: So you know, the thing that really needs to be
stressed here among everything else, right, is that it is
the GOP that did this. Okay, the blame is solely
on those people. You saw all kinds of the normal
characters who are immediately backpedaling, saying, oh, well, look what
happened here. This is because the Republican Party has become
too radical and we scared off the natural conservative voters
like the Indians and the Blacks and the Mexicans and
everybody else, and this is why we lost this election.
We just need to go back to the center. Trump
has become too radical and this is why we lost.
Nick Fuentes is the reason why we lost this election.
The dangerous woke right and those scary young guys who
want to get involved in GOP politics. You can't trust
any of them. They're way too radical. They're losing elections.
Speaker 4: This is why.
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, if you guys have been spending
the last like eight months prior to this disavowing literally
everybody who was talking to Tucker Carlson or what have you,
you didn't want us in the party anyway. So even
if that was the case that you know, the people
who listened to shows like this and many others were
the deciding votes in this one. And it wasn't the
fact that you put up the worst candidate possible in
the state and that's why you lost, Right, You couldn't
possibly have anything to do with you guys. It has
to be you know, the scary woke right online people
or what have you. Right, But even if it was
the case that those are the votes that swung the
election or whatever, you didn't want them there in the
first place, so you get what you deserve.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this idea and it works. Though. The
one of the enduring facts that I've learned over the
last like thirty years is that conservatives have certain psychological
dispositions that make them extremely vulnerable to enemy propaganda. And
one of the things is this idea that you're just
too radical and you're disturbing the social order by just
going too far. Conservatives really are willing to just step back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, abortion up until the moment of birth isn't radical.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I love it, and I love in.
I talked to abortion advocates here in Texas to point
out how even you know, we are way way more
radical and abortion than even Europe. Right, the idea of
abortion just before birth in Europe is so barbaric, but
America is. But this happens because our guys desire social
order so much that they're willing to step back and
think about compromise. And they don't want to they don't
want people in the streets and if they're uncomfortable with
direct conflict, you know, things like that. And it's something
that the boomers, I think brought into the party, and
then they were the boomers themselves were groomed by elites
and the GOP into this kind of country club, chamber
of commerce way of thinking about politics. And it's a
kind of politics where you don't want confrontation, you know.
And because of that, all the left has to do
is create opportunities for disruption and confrontation, and then our
guys will just go, yeah, maybe we did go too far.
Let's wait a little bit, let's talk about this, and
they'll just fall for it every single time. I mean,
the futures for young men, Yeah, the future is with
young right wing men. It's not with bloomers, and it's
not with gen xs like me. It's with the young
right wing men who need to seize power in the
parties and rule.
Speaker 1: I mean, enough of these guys, whether the young guys
I'm referring to, enough of them have either been you know,
raised in the system to the point where they just
see the flaws and the cracks and the fact that
they've been discriminated against through things like DEI or what
have you been nagged by school marms from school like
since the moment that they were born, told like the
men were the root of all evil or what have you.
And then some of them have actually, like you know,
studied the root of this kind of stuff and understand
the tactics and the propaganda that the enemy like lazy
straps for them or whatever. And enough of them are
just saying I've had enough, I'm done with this shit.
Now we are going to destroy the system. If the
GOP has to be destroyed in the process, we're totally
fine with that.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think.
Speaker 1: There's a single person who listens to the show. There
certainly isn't a single person in the you know, the
Central Committee, the OGC who thinks that like this, the
GOP is like a thing worth saving or whatever, like,
I don't care. I'll use this as a tool if
it's effective for me. But we're not, like you, no,
wedded to the idea of like, oh, a big part
of our identity comes from being a Republican. You see
this a lot, like with boomers being a Republican itself
in opposition to being a Democrat, you know, as such
as a huge part of their identity. It's like, well,
you get this all the time when you talk to
boomers too. It's like when you bring up the actual
structural problems with like the economy of the United States,
for for somebody like the housing market or something. They're like, well,
you sound like a Democrats, Like, dude, what what the fuck?
Speaker 4: What kind of response is that?
Speaker 3: You know, see the idea of facts being racist, right,
some facts are just left wing, right, that's the way
they think. You know.
Speaker 2: I saw a friend of mine posted up about the
nineteen eighty four election on Facebook and pointed out that
Reagan won forty nine states, and I commented, I said,
Reagan won forty nine states in a country that was
still eighty percent white, correct, And every boomer melted the
fuck down. Yeah, I mean you have got I mean, look,
if you have an NRA logo as your avatar, I mean,
I don't know what to do with you. But they're
all just argued, you know, they're all just how could
you say that both candidates were white, there were white
people who voted Democrat. They don't fucking get it. They
don't fucking get it. You just have to ignore them.
They they're not going to get it. They are they
have been trained to be race traders.
Speaker 3: Happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you click on their account and you look at
you look at you know, it's like, oh, married to
Jennifer Lee l l I. Oh, okay, that's all I
need to know. Okay, thank you. Yeah, it's I mean,
these people are fucking useless. They see they are.
Speaker 1: It's actually all of the you're even they're even worse
than useless because they're actually doing the work for the enemy.
It'd be one thing if they were just useless, sitting
on the sidelines and not doing anything. But unfortunately, these
people are in control of the levers of power and
the GOP and more importantly, like the actual money of
the Republican donor base and the actual you know, like
Republican voters as well. It's like, these are the people
who get the money, These are the people who get
the donations, and it's all locked up in the most
like retarded programs back in like the worst candidates in
the world as well, and it's like, no wonder we lose.
Speaker 3: Yeah, question about it. I did a little experiment last year.
It lasted almost the entire year before I couldn't stomach
it anymore. I would go to this Thursday breakfast meeting
and it was all boomer Republicans in my county and
These are people who are lifelong at Republican activists in
Detton County where I live, and I would just bring
up to you. I would just say, you know, do
you guys think that, you know, an all black city
can be ruled by the same laws as an all
white city. And the looks on their faces, that the
horrifically uncomfortable silence, the constipated looks, the you know, the
the you know, I felt like I should bring adult
diapers to to these to these breakfasts for these poor guys.
You know. I would ask, you know, things like about Israel.
You know, just like you know, you say that Iran's
done lots of terrorist attests in the United States, but
most have been again it Israel. Why do you feel
like that's against the United States. They'll be just driving crazy,
they would go absolutely crazy. I finally reason to go ahead.
Speaker 2: The only reason to bring adult diapers to that is
because they have prolapsed colons from being bucked in the
ass by their enemy. Their whole lives. Oh, I love it,
their whole life.
Speaker 3: They're just completely you know. I even got really specific
at times. I would say, look, if you have a
population with a fifteen point lower IQ than the mean
IQ in the United States. Do you think that you
can have the same laws and you can police them
the same way. Do you think with lower IQ populations
flogging might be a better deterrent than imprisonment and they
would just completely lose their minds? But when I finally
lost patience with them, was we I successfully It took me.
It took me about ten years to do this. Maybe
you could say nine because I really didn't put any
money into it until about nine years ago. But I
finally got a constitutional amendment here in Texas which enshrines
parental rights as a fundamental right under the Texas Constitution.
Because you can't get into federal court out of family
courts in the states, So we're going to have to
go state by state and do this kind of thing.
And this overrules all of the previous precedent in this state.
By the way, this completely overturns it as a because
now what they're going to have to do is they're
going to have to do, since it's a fundamental liberty interest,
they're going to have to show that there's a compelling
state interest to invade a parent parent's rights for anything.
From now on, so all of the Republicans at this
breakfast were opposed to this amendment because the propaganda came
down from the Republican establishment in Texas and that what
they said was, well, this seems like the government's granting
you your parental rights, but it's a god given right,
so we shouldn't put this amendment.
Speaker 4: For God's sake. They're just losing.
Speaker 3: And it worked. It worked. We almost didn't get it passed.
It almost worked. Every single one of the persons at
this breakfast fell for that propaganda, and I'm like, dude,
I just don't have patience or this anymore. It's been
an interesting experiment, but like I learned, like they can't
understand international politics. You know, I'm an offensive realist, the
John Meherscheimer offensive realist kind of guy. They can't understand that.
They moralize about all everything international. They can't understand the
actual money system and how money is actually created and
what taxation really is. They can't get their head around it.
They just live in a completely fabricated world, very similar
to the way the left lives in a simulation. You know.
The difference is, I got to tell you, man, I
could find no evidence or rhetorical technique that could shake
them of their irrational beliefs. I think we just have
to wait till they die. That's why I say the
future is with young men.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, there's probably a lot of truth to that letter
statement there for sure. I mean, conservatives have suffered greatly
from the propaganda arm of the left for the last
you know, pick your six decades and onwards. Even you
can even say one hundred years, right. And it's amazing
when you talk to these people because they have no
sense of their own low aside from what has been
created for them by their enemies. And also their enemies
are running Fox News, by the way, which all these
people have plugged in and are watching every single day.
They think this is like this little alco for themselves
that they have. It's like, oh, really, the real truth
is only coming from Fox News. It's the number one
news organization in the entire world or whatever.
Speaker 4: It's like. Listen here.
Speaker 1: If Fox News was an actual threat to the establishment
government of the United States, it would have been destroyed
like forever ago.
Speaker 4: You know, it exists.
Speaker 1: There because it keeps these people on a little plantation
where they could think that, oh, they're fighting the good
fight because I listened to Mark Levin, He's got the
real news coming down. You know, everybody else is watching
this NBC. You know it's looking like you know, the
Yankees versus the Red Sox.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is, wow.
Speaker 3: And it's very difficult for me having you know, look,
I come from a professional background where I build things
that have to work. You know, my stuff has to work.
People dive my stuff doesn't work. And you know when
I had to deal with the political and court systems,
you know, what I have to do has to work
or my son's going to die. You know, they're going
to literally cut his balls off if it doesn't work.
These people don't seem to have any care for whether
things work or not. You know, one of the questions
I asked this little groups as my control experiment. I said,
you know, you've been in this county for thirty years,
and we've been fighting the liberal establishment for thirty years,
longer than I've lived here. I said, what are you
going to do differently this electoral cycle? And the answer
came back the exact same thing they've done for thirty years.
They have no ideas. There's no way for them to
step out of the current electoral way of doing electoral politics.
I got a guy elected to office here in Texas.
I'll give you example of kind of thinking out the box.
We have a problem with crossover voting in Texas, so
our liberal Republican establishment make sure that we have open primaries.
So when they get a conservative candidate like me, they
use character attacks like saying I was gay and that
you know, I'd been in a lot of and I
have been in a lot of fights, you know, So
they said he's violent and all stuff, and then that
scares away on moral issues some of the Republican voters,
and then they bring in Democrat crossover voters to make
up the difference, and that way they can elect their candidate.
And that's a tactic that's been used in Texas since
nineteen ninety four. So what I did is this a
guy I wanted to get elected because he was a
key vote for my transgender bill, and so I actually advertised,
paid to advertise to Democrat voters in his district to
make the other candidates seem like the conservative and I
targeted Democratic household to suppress the Democrat vote. You see
what I mean. And when I when I brought this
up and said, hey, we could do something like this
here in Mike County. In Deton County, they were like,
what did you guys like? It just completely blew their
mind because they said, you lied, Jeff, you lied, And
I said, yeah, but it was a noble ee you know.
I mean, but they can't they can't say something about
their opponents that might not be true. They're not willing
to play to conceive of the game as propaganda and
counter propaganda, and there's just nothing you can do with them.
It's whereas young men have an instinctive sense of propaganda,
they have an instinctive sense.
Speaker 1: And we've lived in our whole lives. It's just in
everything we consume, the media, the video games, our schools,
our teachers, the women do we have to date, it's
literally everything.
Speaker 3: Don't even started on women.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I get in trouble all the time with conservatives because
I mean, at this point.
Speaker 1: The boomers just love putting a woman in fucking everything,
don't they.
Speaker 3: Oh, they do, they do. And you know, I don't
tell young men anything that I wouldn't tell my sons.
And I can't tell my sons to get married under
these laws, man. You know, you don't have a father's
really in this system, don't have any rights to their children,
and it's very difficult. So I criticize this kind of stuff.
And man, do conservatives go crazy over that? If anything,
I'm hated for the most amongst some of the traditional conservatives.
It's that issue around women. And I get asked this
all the time. Sounds like you're blaming the women. Jet
I'm like, yeah, I'm blaming women, Sure of course I'm
you know, it's there's a long history of blaming the women,
going back to Genesis one twelve. You know, like, uh, so,
you know, I don't feel bad about it, but you know,
I just point out, like, for example, in divorce, every
single child would have equal access to their father if
the mother simply allowed it in court, right, they're not
if you have an agreement between the two parties. In
most states, the state has to has to accept it.
But the women don't want that. They don't want fathers involvement,
and it's destroyed young men. And I was at a
church one time. I'm Orthodox, but I was at I
was sort of at a revival. I had to attend
it as a like a political function, kind of a
revival tent meeting type thing, and it was just fascinating
to watch the pastor try to convince these young men
that they should get married early. But all these young
men were telling me afterwards, like, I've seen what happened
to my dad. It's not I'm not doing that. Yeah,
my father lived out of a car, you know, hmm, yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, people can criticize quite a bit of the manisphere,
and there's plenty of just a disagreement to go around
these days, especially with the chief of voices in the
space and how let's just call it ethnic fight. It
has been over the last couple of years. But there's
a lot of old wisdom and a lot of those
old the original og posters, and that's kind of.
Speaker 3: No doubt, there's no doubt. But you know, we talk
about the structural problems in the economy, there are structural
social problems like that in this country where most young
men are being raised without their fathers, and so you know,
they get into their twenties and they essentially look for
surrogate fathers, you know, people who can you know, give
them the kind of in culturation that they didn't get
as young men. You know, I was very lucky to
get that. I grew up on a farm and a
ranch where like we had a television, but you know
it was it was on an aerial. We had two stations,
and we could get them only about four nights a week.
You know, the weather would prevent us from even getting television.
So I grew up around men as a very young boy,
and I didn't have a lot of paganda influence from
from radio television when I was young. But these young
men have kind of had the opposite, you know, the verses.
Speaker 1: What they would say today is like, I know your propaganda,
Jeff was toxic masculinity.
Speaker 4: You know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean this is the thing, you know, Uh,
you know, some guy punched me in the mouth. I
don't know. This is about a year ago. Some guy
punched me in the mouth or something. It isn't a
TIFA guy up in Debton, Texas. I forgot what I
I called somebody a faggot or something, and uh punched
me in the mouth. So you know, I kicked him
in the balls, and and uh, everybody around me, all
the women that know me, the Republican women were just
horrified by this that I kicked this guy in the balls.
Speaker 1: Oh you saw this, e me to do.
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to just take a punch in the mouth,
and they actually would have. They would have just.
Speaker 1: Taken Do you remember the There was this very famous clip.
It was just a day or two after Charlie Kirk
got killed. There was some leftist agitator that showed up
to one of these vigils and immediately started, you know,
starting ship with people, like moving people's bikes around or
what have you. And some good old boy comes over
and just socks them right in the face. And the
first person to get involved in intervene is some like
you know, overweight, you know, like Marty, kind of like
woman or something.
Speaker 2: It's like, start, look, look, come on, we know that
if we just go back to following the Constitution, everything
will be fine. We just need the Constitution. I have
a buddy, I believe he's in his early seventies now,
but you know he worked on he worked on the Hill,
you know, back in the eighties. Wow, And he said,
he said, people think that the Constitution is this because
they read the Bill of Rights that it like it
limits the power of guard. But he goes, everything that
they do is constitutional. Everything they do is constitutional. Anybody
screaming in the constitution just isn't paying attention, you know.
And then you bring up Carl Schmidt, you know, and
you know he was sovereign decides the exception, and you know,
you start talking about politics as a religion, and you know,
you have the classical liberals and the law and the
lolcows coming out and being like, oh, oh, you just
want you just want Nazi German. It's like, well, you know,
you know, there was only one really one group went
up against this power and one and it's like the
whole fucking world declaring war on them because they defeated
the power. They said, Germany is for Germans, and yeah,
Germany is for Germans. Yeah, and it was you know,
it's funny, is and then you look and you're like, oh,
well obviously someone like Bubbles was was Sicilian, I mean
as Alian, but he was he was German.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean it's people. People don't realize it, like you're
going to you know, the libertarians, Oh, you just living
like a slave. Look, you're a boot liquor, you you
want Look you're rooting for ice, you know. And there
was this great there was a great suite that somebody
put out today that I'm gonna find real quick and
read it, he said. He said, government agents are going
out in the freezing cold and deporting and shooting my
political enemies in the street, literally enacting my will while
I'm at home on the couch with my feet up.
And someone that makes me and somehow that makes me
a boot liguer, a boot liquor. He said, Nigga, they're
my boots. Those people out there are my boots.
Speaker 3: That's fabulous. That's a fabulous quote.
Speaker 1: Very good.
Speaker 3: Is so bad precisely because it interrupts the blood and
soil nationalism. That is the cure for all this, right, Yeah,
it is in the at least in the boomer mind.
That is the fundamental problem. And I have found with libertarians,
you know, I try to, you try, they're almost as
bad as the boomers. You know, you try to, like
you know, you go. Have you read Hans Hermann Hopez,
you know, democracy the god that failed. Have you seen
his views that you're free or under monarchy than you
are under you know, democratic states that are not anarchic
and you're never going to get your anarchic state. And
by the way, there's no libertarian path to a libertarian state.
So you're going to have to seize power in an
authoritarian coup in order to get it anyway. And they
they they also can't conceive of that right. So and
all of that just blocks the solidarity. And this is
the strength of the propaganda that we're up against. If
you believe that ury Bethmanov guy from the seventies, you know, uh,
he said they were only able to break this kind
of bolshit conditioning through physical torture, that arguments, proof evidence
wouldn't do it. So I think there's something too, uh,
people having to face down street fighting, legit street fighting
and and at least being exposed to that because it
actually might change people's minds. And as far as Antiva goes, dude,
I was. I was having fights with those guys in Houston,
Texas back in the eighties when I moved to the
UK and lived there. They were all over the UK
in the late eighties and they were trying to take
control of like you know, tube stations, and you'd have
to get into fights with them all the time. They're
they're they're a highly effective, highly organized, low intensity terrorist organization,
and our guys are right. Like you know, if you
if you if you get upset about the government posing
somebody like that, you're really at that point, you're just
incapable of solidarity with your fellow citizens. And I don't
know what we should do with those people.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what we're talking about here is just
the fundamental problem with conservatism or conservatism inc as a
whole right is that they are basically generals fighting on
the line, where every last scrap of their intel, whether
it relates to the nature of the enemy, the nature
of the terrain, the nature of their own resources, the
nature of the weapons being used, all of it is
formed by their enemies.
Speaker 4: All of it.
Speaker 1: They have no self conception for themselves whatsoever at all.
It's all propaganda one hundred percent of the way down.
And this is why they just always lose, and really
crucially for people like us to understand as always is
that conservatives are the enemy. Drill this into your skull.
Conservatives are the enemy. Conservatives are the enemy every single time.
Speaker 3: You know, there's one other group that I would say
that achieved much more limited goals, but they did achieve
one hundred percent of their stated political goals through nationalistic
mobilization and that was the IRA and they did that
under conditions of maximum surveillance, the maximum technologically available surveillance, satellites,
of you know, hidden cameras. Everything was used, was used
against them, and they still succeeded.
Speaker 4: In a European country.
Speaker 3: No longer in a European country. Yeah, and I think
there's some some things to be learned there as well
about how what kind of propaganda provokes that kind of solidarity.
I'm glad we're having a discussion about propaganda because most
of the time, even with right wing people, it's framed
as education, you know, it's it's framed in an academic
way rather than countering the messaging of the enemy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean narrative. Narrative is all that matters.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: He who controls the narrative has power. You know, people
say money is power. No money used properly can it
can be power. But power is power. You know, somebody
who is somebody who can wield power can wield power
without money. Maybe not in this system, but you know,
that's the way it really should. But yeah, Yeah, the
point is is that anybody who is still holding on
too ideals. Somebody was like, well, you know, you don't
even have an ideology anymore, you know, like my ideology
is whatever it takes to make sure my people are.
Speaker 1: Safe exactly, for my friends, everything, for my enemies nothing,
That's all I need.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: That's put it. To put it in Marine Corps terms,
you know, no better friends and no worse enemy. M
You know, you're right, and we should be thinking pragmatically
like that, like what steps can we take? Like, you know,
I was talking to your Black Prairie group and one
of the things I was like, you know, what steps
can we take to start funneling money from the county
commissioner's courts into projects that we think should be funded.
What is it going to take for us to do that?
Who has to say yes? Who do we have to influence?
Who do we have to propagandize to make that happen?
And that kind of talk is just rarely done. That
kind of thinking is just rarely done in these groups.
Maybe the first time I've ever been on a podcast
where people have talked about it actually and talk about
it competently.
Speaker 2: Actually, Well, the we've taken this program, you know, myself
and Red Hawk are usually on here with a guest
and another OGC member. Yeah, we catch a lot of
crap because it's like, you know, we complain, we you know,
we we say that the regime, you know, the administration
is not doing enough right, and people want us to
basically get up here in cheerlead and put ourselves and
put our reputations out on the line. Well, how about
some fucking patronage.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly absolutely.
Speaker 2: How about some fucking money, And how about how about
we don't have to worry about bills? How about we
have our own thing tanks? How about we you know,
I mean, you have sixty five IQ motherfuckers in Minneapolis
in fucking houses three times the size of the one
I live in. Yes, and they didn't work a dime
for it. Is political patronage, and you got nothing for
us who are out here saying things that put fucking
targets on our back. Go fuck yourself. If you think
I'm going to back you, I'm going to just be like, oh,
Donald Trump did this, Yay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they fucking do it for free.
Speaker 1: They fucking do it for free.
Speaker 4: That's it's even worse. They do it for free, and
they do it for the fifees.
Speaker 3: Exactly right, and there's and listen, this is the clearest
example that the pat patronage networks in the Republican Party
are not right wing because they're not going to fund you,
they are not going to help you. Right, there are
some places you might go. I know, you know, Peter
til has put some money into some things. This this
new oligarchy that's rising up, might do something like that.
But you know, I know Elon Musk when he came
to Texas, the first thing he did is he funded
the liberal establishment. Pack made the largest donation to them
they've ever had. So, you know, you're exactly right. So
I think, Pete, I think what we're going to have
to do is kind of like what Garabaldi had to
do is we are probably going to have to rely
on four networks. And that's exactly what the IRA had
to rely on, and most of that patronage came from
the United States for the IRA. MM.
Speaker 1: The simple thing that really comes down to is we
really have to start treating the kind of stuff that
we do.
Speaker 4: Uh we hear at the OGC.
Speaker 1: I mean, the most important thing for us to be
doing is to keep money within our own network, within
our own organization doing stuff for our guys, for our
own people. But you can't be giving yourself freely away
for the GOP, which is an organization that literally hates you.
It is it is entirely captured by your enemies. Basically,
I mean, do you guys want to go in and
use it as a vector for power? You have more
power to you and I even think there's some merit
to be doing that, But don't be fucking doing it
for free, man.
Speaker 3: You know, have a goal, right, and have you guys
studied like how other ethnicities sort of handle patronage and stuff.
For example, I lived in I had a business. I
lived in Hong Kong for four years. And you know,
when Chinese go to a foreign country, like maybe they
go to Indonesia or they come to the United States,
every Chinese name can be traced back to five original
Chinese names. One of them is Hung. For example, I
know Hung very well because I knew the Hung Family Association.
So you come in from China and your name traces
back to Hung. You go to the Hung Family Association.
And the Hung Family Association is a consortium of businessmen
who have what amounts to an illegal and private illegal
and private bank and they'll loan you money. They'll give
you a million dollars to start of business right and
you never have to repay that loan. The only rule
is within thirty years you have to give a million
dollars to some other Chinese person whose name is hung.
That's how you pay it back. And they cooperate through
what amount to private banking institutions, and they create even
private investment houses and uh, any Chinese person anywhere in
the world can go to those associations and do that.
When I you know, when I, when I had a
business in Hong Kong, actually had to pay the tongs.
Those are the family organizations. I had to pay them
for protection money because organized organized crime is actually considered
by the by the Southern Chinese to be a social
good because when the Manchurians would get overly oppressive in
the South, it was organized crime guys that would raise
private armies and fight them off. So the Southern Chinese
see paying the tongs organized crime as a kind of
tax for a check in balance on the government. And
I actually had to use them one time to enforce
a contract because a guy actually wouldn't pay me, and
he paid me that day when I went to the tong,
he was there literally at my doorstep with cash. But
like that that model of organizing almost like like in
Texas we have a thing called a family bank. We
have rules that allow people to form pools of assets
that are not taxed and are eligible for all kinds
of tax relief even when they leave the This this
type of business organization, and it was designed to let
farmers and ranchers pass on. There's this is the kindest practical,
hands on stuff that needs to be done. Right. If
if we're not getting patronage, we can either in America,
we can get it from foreigners and lots of groups
have gained political power in countries through foreign patronage. Or
you can do what the what the Chinese have done,
I think very effectively, which has figured out how to
pool resources among a lot of small businesses and use
it for massive political power in the places I mean
they basically in Malaysia, the Chinese basically run everything. They
run everything. The same is true in large parts of
Indonesia and the Philippines. And it's because of this way
that they pool resources and the solidarity that they have,
and that might be a good model to explore. I'm
very practical, man. I'm about getting shited done. I'm not
about just complaining.
Speaker 1: I'm about can we do that would be important things
that we need, that.
Speaker 3: Would be a good case study that you could look
at for some good ideas.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting about this discussion right here is
that you'll never get this from anybody in any level
of like GOP, like local governments none. Well, and I'm
all for a great diversity of tactics, and we have
to have a diversity of tactics because people like us
literally have to rebuild the thing from the ground up
because the current thing that we don't have, it's just
it's just not reformable.
Speaker 3: You just know it is not reformable. And look, what
I'm talking about is the same patterns of networks that
used to be the case that William of Buckley was
a part of. They used to call them country club Republicans. Right.
It was an informal group of people that pulled resources
and did deals together. Right, And that's what I'm talking about.
That that's the kind of thing when you can when
you can get that going, you can start making a
difference because you have enough money to support programs like
this to support legitimate counter propaganda efforts and so forth.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
Speaker 1: I mean, people really just need to get into the
mindset that just give you give your friends money, man, Like,
go out of your way to actually engage in patronage
with your friends first and then move out from there.
You know, Like the GOP is not a friend guys.
It's not like they see us as too radical. They
see us as interlopers, They see us as infiltrators. They
would love to snuff all of us out. If some
of you guys, can you know, leverage your local GOP
and maybe get yourselves into some semblance of power and
start hiring our own guys, more power to you.
Speaker 4: Great.
Speaker 1: I'm all for a diversity of tactics, but people really
need to start focusing more on the local stuff, like
literally from the ground up and starting this. I mean, yeah,
it's just the only way I can't be having these
grandiose ideas of you know, like, oh, everybody is just
going to magically you know, come to our line of
thinking when the boomers die. It's like, no, we actually
need to be the ones who are in a position
to take up those rains when they're finally pulled from
their cold, dead hands.
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. I mean, like, one of the
biggest problems in most states is that at the grassroots level,
the school districts are the largest employers in the counties,
and so they have an inordinate say over politics in
the counties because the teachers are going to vote for
whatever is good for the schools, which is invariably far
left right. So you go to Republican soires, you know,
your local Republican club, They're not going to talk about
how to overcome that problem. They're not going to deal
with it in any realistic way. So you're you're going
to need the money that's required to have a You've
got to have a new Republican club, you know, I
would I would call it something like right wing Republican
Club or something like that. Right, And you're going to
have to create alternative institutions within the Republican Party. And
you're going to have to become an institution that can
deliver votes to candidates so that you can get concessions
from that. You know, and if you don't want to
shoot people, then political power in our system comes from
only three sources. You can remove someone from office. You
can put someone into office, which basically means removing someone right,
or it means you can get an administrative judge in
one of the agencies to see things your way. That's
basically all you got, right. So in order to do that,
you have to be able to bring donor money to
the table, and you have to be able to influence candidate.
It's through that donor money. And you have to be
able to bring votes to the table and influence candidates
with those votes. And right now it's easy pickings. Everywhere
I go, the Republican clubs are extraordinarily weak. They're geriatric.
They can't even get you know, in my county, we
can't even get volunteers to tan count votes because everybody's
so old. They don't want to spend six hours sitting
in a chair for me.
Speaker 4: They pay some young guy, you know, thirty bucks an
hour to go and do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So what you're gonna have to do is
you're gonna have to again create something like you know,
you're at the pool resources and pay people to go
do it. You know, I when I ran my campaign
here in Texas, I had three top legitimate right wing
guys that were on my on my staff, and I
trusted all three of them. I tested every one of
them and found that I could trust them. And one
has gone on to work at a major media outlet,
one is on one is highly placed at TPUSA actually,
and another runs one of the largest political packs, conservative
political packs in Texas. And that was just off my campaign,
And that was me getting them in the right place,
meeting the right people, pooling resources with people that I
know to get that done right. So like this can
be done, and it's a huge opening because the geriatric
boomers are losing control of themselves, like they can't actually
do the work to run the parties anymore. So would
I would encourage young men in all the states to
create an alternative quote Republican club. That's what we call them,
I don't know why, an alternative Republican club, and create
an alternative mechanism to fund money and votes to candidates
and see if you can get them to bend to
your will.
Speaker 1: On don't you talk to us, Jeff on some of
the tactics and success you've had getting your bill passed
in Texas with the influencing various Republican politicians or donors
or what have you.
Speaker 3: So you know, I was in an unusual position with
my bill. My bill is basically outlawing the castration of kids, right,
so like it's just there's no moral case against it, right,
And yet I found myself sitting in a senator's office
having a thirty minute conversation basically trying to convince this
fool that it was something that we needed to outlaw.
I said, I'm just not going to do that anymore.
And kind of the way, the catchphrase I had in
my mind was I'm not going to look for the
means of persuasion anymore. I'm looking for the means of coercion.
And so I sat down and thought through, what are
the centers of gravity for these elected officials? Right? What
they really need is money to get reelected. They need
they really value their reputation because if the reputation's hit it,
they can get unelected. And they tremendously want to appear
to align with the ideologies of the counties that they
the districts that they serve. They don't want to get
two out of step with it. So really you could
really collapse that into reputation. So you've basically got money
and reputation, and so I just started going after people.
If they wouldn't vote for my bill, I would destroy
their reputation. I would. I would get donors, you know.
I would go to church with the children of major
donors and tell them what this guy was doing. And
the next thing, you know, the donor pulls money. I
would influence major I couldn't get access to these donors,
you know, these billionaires, so I get access to their
children and turn their change their opinion. Because again I
conceived of it as a propaganda project. And then I
had one guy on a committee, this is in the house,
Texas House. He just wouldn't budge. So I went to
one of his donors. Excuse me, I'm coughing a little bit.
And this guy ran banks up in the Panhandle of Texas,
and I showed up for an appointment, and he didn't
know what I was going to talk about. He thought
it was business. And then I told him what it was,
and he tried to throw me out of his office.
We're on the second floor of his bank, one of
his banks, and I had him look outside the window,
and I had ringed his bank at every entrance to
his bank. I had people standing there with flyers that
had the banker's face superimposed on a rancher that was
castrating a bull, and I had his name and it
said this man castraights little kids. And then I had
flyers from rival banks that would give free checking if
you'd free free interest for a year if you switch
checking accounts to their bank. And I started pulling depositors
out of his bank, and I said, this is going
to happen like all year until your bank is gone.
You're not You're not going to get away with doing this.
Everybody's going to know that you're supporting a candidate that
wants to cast eight kids. And I and I there's
a billboard right outside. I said, I already have an
option on the billboard to put that same thing that's
on that flyer to put up on that billboard. And
then I went around to all the gas stations and
told him what was going on, and he couldn't buy
gas in his own county. He had to drive out
of the county to a gas works car. So that
that it didn't that didn't last two weeks, and my
bill got through the House committee and it passed. It
actually passed on the floor. So it's that those kind
of tactics that that that that our enemies play on
us all the time. I don't know why we don't
just think to do it back to them. You know,
these people really fear losing their businesses and losing their reputation,
and frankly, it's very easy to attack someone's reputation when
they're doing dumb shit like that, Like somebody that actually
doesn't want us to throw pedophile illegal aliens out of
the country, It's pretty easy to damage their reputation. And
so that's but you know that required money. I've spent
about two and a half million dollars trying to get
this thing passed and then try to protect my son.
So I spent millions of dollars on this. You do
need money to do this kind of thing, but it's
very doable at it on a small scale. I'll tell
you another thing that didn't take me any money. We
have counties in Texas out in West Texas that have
less than a thousand people in them. So if I
can change two hundred votes in that county and an election,
I can flip a Senate seat in Texas, And so
I went there and just took pictures of what they
were young. Here's my here's my son in address with
the court ordered psychologists. Look what they did to them.
These guys. These guys went up to their trucks, they
were getting guns like they were to go kill people.
You know. The sheriff had to show up and say
put your guns away. You know, like this is a
political issue, you know, And this scared the senators to
death that they passed my bill before before it even
came from the House. It was already pre passed. They
were just scared to death. I was going to flip seats.
So there are all kinds of vulnerabilities in the system
that these guys have. Nobody's really exploited, nobody's ever thought
to exploit. I don't know why, but like you have
low population counties, you can get things done there that
you couldn't get done in urban centers. And you know,
these counties have outsized influence because we don't have an
electoral college for counties, right, So if you have counties
in Ohio, you have counties in Virginia or whatever, they
all have an equal say then in the district voting.
So there's all kinds of ways you can think about
how to exercise power, and sometimes having low numbers like
in those those counties can be an advantage, not a disadvantage.
Speaker 1: Those are all amazing tips and speaks to the great
need for a diversity of tactics. And you know, just
try out the same ones their enemies.
Speaker 3: So convince these assholes, right, they know what they're doing
to America. These motherfuckers know what they're doing to America. Okay,
they know what they're doing to our people. They know
what exactly what they're doing. So trying to convince them
is just foolish. You got to force them. You got
to make it where they just can't do it. And
it's surprisingly easy. And I'll tell you sometimes it's easier
just to buy stuff. Like I found that if you
want to buy a senator in a state, I've done
this in five states. You can basically buy a state
senator for about thirty thousand bucks. You can get a vote,
you know, I would say fifteen to twenty for a representative.
Speaker 1: It's amazing how little they take at all, just how
self respect that they have.
Speaker 3: Now, it's amazing. I know, a very influence organization here
in Texas who endorsed a liberal candidate for attorney general
in our we have an open race for attorney general
and uh, he spent forty thousand bucks for that. It's cheap.
It's absolutely are cheap. Sometimes it's you know, it's it's
a business question. Sometimes it's cheaper to buy it than
to fight it.
Speaker 1: But but you're talking about corruption, Jeff.
Speaker 4: We can't do that. We all do it.
Speaker 3: Lest anyone think I'm advocating for actions against the law.
Stay within the parameters of the law, but use the
levers of influence that the super packs and the packs use,
and you just got to use them yourself. Although I
have to say, if you can threaten their business interests
by going to their customers and offering superior deals, superior
financing terms, that kind of stuff I've found works too.
You can get a change in behavior from that.
Speaker 1: This has all been very very informative, Pete. Do you
have any thoughts here before we get to these super chance.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the reason one of the reasons
why Jeff is able to do the things that he
do is is one is very intelligent man, but two
he's got a burning hatred of these people. Yes, I do,
and I don't think that most people understand exactly what
these people are. And if you understand what these people are,
you blind. Hatred is not constructive. But being able to
get that under control and to focus it and turn
it into a power is something that I think most
of the guys on our side haven't. I haven't even
considered yet.
Speaker 3: That's interesting. I never thought of that, Pete, And maybe
that's something I need to think more about, is how
do we get our guys to achieve the kind of
temperance that lets them channel aggressiveness in the right way.
Speaker 1: It's very interesting because there's a there's a whole core
of a lot of points on the red pill sidebar
from the original Manisphere guys about how anger is the
male emotion. The default female emotion is to cry. Well,
that's just always like the fallback that women go to.
But the default of emotion for men is always anger.
And you know, every single guy growing up these days
has just you know, been taught since a young age like, oh,
anger is horrible. You're not allowed to use anger. It's
terrible and upsets the apple card. It's always bad, and
and all circumstances in all places you just need to
suppress it, you know, you can never let it out,
you know, and don't ever do something like that. But no, actually,
anger is an extremely useful tool for you to use
ift on constructively.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: As much as I've studied the German regime from nineteen
thirty three to nineteen forty five, I think a lot
of people believe that they, you know, they were just
these maniacs. The reason they were able to do the
kind of things that they did on the Eastern Front
at the beginning of Operation Barbarosa is just because they
were these lunatics. No, I mean, they knew what happened
in World War One, they knew why World War One happened,
They knew what happened in Ymar. By that time, they
had just become cold and focused. Right, it wasn't it
wasn't even hatred anymore. It was just destroy or be destroyed.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, yeah, it's this isn't. This is so I've
never thought of this before. This is very interesting what
Pete has brought up. Uh, the idea of temperance as
the fundamental you know, one thing I have noticed young
men have been through these crushing systems, you know, they
go through twelve years of primary schooling and in every
institutional battle with a woman or any you know, anything,
any disagreement at all, they always lose. They're always put second.
They're taught to be subservient. They do that four years
at university. If they go to university, which I hope
young men are not doing, and you just go, you know,
you at a certain point, you wonder if they're just
beginning to dispair rather than anger. There they're they're experiencing despair.
And that's the kind of thing I think, pet you're
talking about. They didn't have the Germans, you know, even
at the end of the operation when they were being
pushed back to Germany. I mean, there were periods of
time when they were exacting a million casualties a mile
on the Russians, Like that's beyond belief, uh, skill and philosophy.
They were they were not. They were not despairing people.
They were people who were were willing, were willing to
fight to the end. Now for me, I mean, they
tried to kill my kid and they're still trying to
kill my kid. So obviously, you know, I have that attitude.
You know, my kid deserves everything I have and he's
just he's going to get it. But how do you
how do you get that same attitude in a young
man who's been brought up to despair in a in
a system that's crushed him all and he sees very
little opportunity, maybe even in the future. How do we
counter that despair? I haven't thought about that. I'm gonna
think more about that, man. Thanks well. Yeah, a lot
for Pete, A lot. I have to say, over the
last five years, I've learned more from Pete than I
was anyone else I listened to.
Speaker 2: I appreciate hearing that. Thank you, Jeff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm serious, I'm serious. I have a whole obsidian
folder full of stuff from your shows.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Thank you, and.
Speaker 1: Pe is definitely one of our best. Everyone should be
listening to The Pequanona Show on all your podcast platforms.
But gentlemen, this has been an excellent discussion, something for
the audience to think on and the consequences of losing
and signing with the GOP and just thinking that they're
actually in it for our interests. We all know better,
which means it's not you know, time to black pill
or anything like that. It's actually you know, this could
be your heroic commission as a man in this day
and age where most of our traditional avenues for her
meaning had been lost to us. What could be more
amazing than literally taking back your country. That's pretty amazing.
So why don't we get through some of these super chats, gents,
and we can call it a night. Right, all right,
we got a Christopher Burke's longtime super chatter, says us.
Five bucks and a salute. He is a real Americano Americans. Yes,
thank you, sir, we got a solid snake nineteen sixty four.
He did not get the first super chat in this week. Unacceptable, sir,
you're slacking, he says. Evening, gents, I've never been to
Virginia proper, only right across the Potomac from DC to
stay at a hotel in Virginia with the Pentagon in view.
Would love to visit you gentlemen there someday. Hate to
see the old dominion being ran by such a vile woman.
Stay warm, all salute, Well, thank you very much, Solid
snake Americans. Here we go. Here's another real American. We
got Steve from Fast and Sun's coffee link. In the description,
he sends us fifteen bucks and a salute. He is
a real American. Three of Americans, Yes, thank you. Everyone
had on over to Fox and Sons for all of
your caffeine coffee needs for you coffee drinkers out there.
Ski Bum two, twenty long time super chatter, sends us
one hundred bucks. Thank you very much, sir, You're the
top super chatter of the night thus far. Thank you,
he says, evening all. My dad was stationed in Norfolk
for three years. It was and still is a beautiful state,
and my sister lives in Virginia. Now what a crime
that the traitorous GOP was allowed to give a great
state away to foreigners and spiteful mutants. We will win,
We must win. Salute the OGC and all real Americans. Well,
salute to you too, sir, Thank.
Speaker 3: You, Three of Americans.
Speaker 4: Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1: John Marmaduke sends us five bucks. He says, good evening, Well,
good evening to you, sir. Chancey sends us fifteen bucks.
It feels like I was hit with the whirlwind recently.
Lots of activity going on or making progress, lads, We
absolutely are making progress. The black pill is a suppository, gentleman,
never forget that. Thomas Wayne Riley. It sends us fifteen
bucks from New Mexico. Thank you very much, sir. He says,
I'm running for US Senate in New Mexico. Yes, he
did make that announcement earlier this week. Everyone be sure
to go and support him. After being asked to switch
from running for Congress, I was offered quite a few
resources to get on the ballot before February third. I
have been and I have been delivered. Nothing typical gop
Man not true. I've been called and asked to run
for local stuff. Now I decided I'm not spending thousands
of dollars for this salute. Well, I wish you luck
in all of your endeavors in the state of New Mexico, sir,
thank you very much for you Americans. Yes, and mister
Riley sends us another five bucks, and he says, I
think I could have been dem too. It's very frustrating.
Don't even look at the congressional District one Republican I
run it too. Wanted to run against nim de Kama
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Speaker 4: She will lose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, another star wars name.
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 1: I feel for you, mister Riley. But good luck and
whatever you decide to do in New Mexico in the future,
the OGC stands behind you, sir. Zenra Ath sends us
one hundred and twenty five bucks. Thank you very much, sir,
he says, angry enough to ask a very direct question,
Why in the hell is it when Dems run Virginia's
AOC that the GOP decides to run a dead horse.
They don't move effectively, they don't hire people willing to
improve the country, and constantly backstab each other to any
standing member of the GOP, why in the hell would
anyone want to believe in you? Yeah, a very legitimate question. Now,
if this is the results we get now, jeez, you
can only back like a or so many times. Man
TK sends us ten bucks salute. The only problem with
Jay Burns prediction is that he's going to do a
victory lap on the call for the next three to
four years.
Speaker 4: Yes, that is true for Americans. Yes, and you, sir,
are a real American. Uh you know.
Speaker 1: But Burns Burden's good friend Kyle Linskogg for ten bucks,
can only stay till eight thirty and pick back up
around nine thirty. If you're still here, I'll listen to
the rest tomorrow. I'll salute well, thank you very much, sir.
Moving on to uh TK again for two bucks because
n M and why isn't here? Oh not me, not
you is here? Goph DeLanda est M. We main focus
on the con They need to go. They all need
to go, every single one of them. Yes, in the
well done. Seasider sends us ten bucks and a salute,
as he does every week. Thank you, sir. You are
real American for real Americans. Yes, many you sushi for
ten bucks. The GOP is playing the next college debate
while the Dems are playing to put their enemies in goolags.
Be aware of it. No one is coming to save you.
Act accordingly and stay safe out there. Yep, very very
sound advice.
Speaker 4: Indeed, m hm.
Speaker 1: TK sends us five bucks and says, gay gif thank you.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 1: Penoid News for twenty bucks says the Republicans and Democrats
are really libertarians versus management.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: They both want GDP numbers go up. Minnesota is the
best example, more corporations per capita than any other state.
I mean, yeah, it's it's a one party system. Everyone's
looting the treasury many she again for ten bucks. Just
a friendly reminder when one is arguing with a leftist
or boomer, one is really arguing with the television. Yes,
it's one hundred percent true. I forget who coined this phrase.
It might have been black that's right, that's right. He
did do this, that's right. And the television does not
hear anything. The viewer says, yes, very very true, one
hundred percent. Black pill is the one who said the
television was the was the jew in the living room?
Speaker 4: That was that was black.
Speaker 2: Bild that was that was actually a priest, Catholic priest
in nineteen fifty eight.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, wow.
Speaker 1: Thomas Wayne Riley for three bucks again. And as a
as a Southern it is. I love how he types,
even in his accents. I love it. It is difficult
to run as a Republican, but I wanted to see
my state and this nation improve. Oh I'm a good
old rebel, That's just what I am. And for the
Syankee nation, I do not give it.
Speaker 4: Damn.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, New Mexico is one of those states I have
to visit, one of the few states in the Union
I haven't been to yet. So I got to make
my way down there one of these days. City Breakdancer
Man always a great name. Yes, yes, the chirp we
know he's arrived, sends us a salute, Thank you.
Speaker 4: Very much, sir.
Speaker 1: For Americans, uh boalero three nine three and og in
these spaces. For five bucks, says there are gays in
the GOP No way, Tim Scott and Lindsey Grammer in
the GOP.
Speaker 2: I get beg it backet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, imagine my lack of shekel. For fifteen bucks says
fifty to fifty chance of kicking ANTIFA guy in the
balls and there being a target down there to very true,
very true, TK says ten bucks. Jen Alpha is calling weed, goy,
Nip and your black billing.
Speaker 2: Ha.
Speaker 1: The kids are all right. Volpus persona for ten bucks
sends us a salute, Thank you very much, sir. For
you Americans, you, sir, are indeed a real American. A
lot of super chats tonight, guys, thank you very much.
We greatly appreciate it. Moving on to no, I'm not
grim from Red Hood, he sends us five bucks. I
recommend anyone who's watching this after this stream is done,
please listen to one of the more recent episodes, episode
thirteen to twenty one of the Peak Wanona Show. What
episode was that, Pete. I don't know if you memorize
them by the.
Speaker 2: Numbers, Jay Burden and Stormy talking about the Goop Samson option.
Speaker 1: Oh all right, yes, everyone, be sure to listen. I'm
behind in all my consumption of podcasts and will be
for the rest of tax season, so I'm gonna be
out of the loop for a while. It's just the
nature of the things. But let's see penoid News again
for five bucks. Says unions. We need to start unions
of millennials sooner and sooner, working men. Yeah, there's definitely
something to be said about the old UH unions of old,
and that's definitely a bit of a propaganda that they
always showed you towards our guys about like, oh, unions
are just you know, against big business, against democrats or whatever.
It's just a way to propagandize you against collective organization
and action. It's not to say, like all those guys
you know who are being backed by comedies you know
back in the day or what have you, or regard
or whatever, whatever. But collective organization UH is good and
is something that we need to be doing more of Yeah,
let's see uh t K again. Oh, we're actually having
like a biding war going on in the super chats here,
responding to each other.
Speaker 4: It's like superchantception.
Speaker 1: He's responding to penoid news earlier, says is my boy
as much of a wop as he is?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Is not?
Speaker 1: I'm not saying the yeah. You guys understand nice. Don Browning,
the only female who listens to this show, sends us
ten Australian dollars and a gift of a lemon dancing
with a couple of moroccas. Thank you, John Browning. We
look forward to your dancing gifts every single week. Thank you,
son of Haster from up in the New Ivy League
for five bucks, says Cheers can't listen tonight out with
my chapter brothers, but I can still do my part.
Thank you very much, sir. We appreciate it. Pete Budapest
for five bucks, says Jeff. What are some of the
pre clearance pre vetting methods the GOP gatekeepers used to
select people for positions of power.
Speaker 3: So one of the most important things they look at
is who gave you money? If the right people gave
you money, you're probably okay to let in. There's a
They usually keep lists of people who are you know,
nationalists or conservative or you know, even in Texas we
have a Texas nationalist movement of separatist movement. If you
take any money from any of those people, they'll keep
you out. They also put you through a donor process. So,
for example, I went through TLR, which is this, which
is the main liberal establishment pack put me through a
series of interviews and it really has nothing to do
with your policy prescriptions, I realized looking back on it,
because these were all done online and I took videos
of them. What they were were lengthy compliance tests to
see if you would give in to what they said.
If you're willing to change your opinions to what they
were saying, you should have your opinions too. They did
three of these with me. They usually only do one.
They did three with me, and I didn't pass any
of them, apparently, so I didn't get any money from
the establishment packs. But they actually have behavioral screening like that,
and that's because a lot of the donors are involved
with the deep state, and they picked people based on
psychological dispositions as much which as they do for charisma.
Speaker 1: All right, well there you go. Very very interesting to
say the least. All right, moving right along here because
they keep piling up. Paul Lunsford for twenty bucks, says
a sterling retelling of all you've went through and all
you've done, we have much to learn and apply. Salute,
Thank you very much, sir. Mikey Machines for fifty bucks,
Thank you very much. He sends us a salute. Praying
for you. Mister Jeff I heard about your story some
time ago. Just keep up the good fight. I live
in a county led by complacent Republicans and it has
led to the ruin of my home state of California.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Jens for the show.
Speaker 3: Have a funny American. I gave a speech to a
group in California one time, and somebody brought in the
Q and A. Someone brought up some questions about, you know,
my views on homosexuality and so forth, and I said, well, basically,
you know, I think we should basically have the laws
that Russia has. You know that, you know, if you
engage in public acts, loot at homosexual acts in public,
you should be imprisoned at hard labor or flogged and
the people in the Republican Party just couldn't. They weren't
so much shocked is that they just couldn't process an
anti like the idea that I wanted the public spaces
to be PG. They had so imbibed so much from
the left that they just couldn't process it. It was
just it was fascinating. There was just it was like
mass cognitive dissonance. I've never seen anything like it before,
to the point where it shut down questions for like
one hundred and twenty seconds, like two minutes, like they
didn't know what to do. It was bizarre. So I
totally get what's going on in California Republican circles.
Speaker 2: And I think that come placent Republicans is at best
an oxymoron and at worst, I mean, they're just Republicans.
You don't really need to put a qualifier there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very good point. Yeah, much much in the same
way Jeff Dice has been talking about for some time
about how the term libertarian just needs to be abandoned
by anyone who's like actually serious and has something else
there really actually does need to be a term that differentiates,
you know, Republicans from actual right wingers. Oh, and it
has to be a term that hasn't been given to
us by our enemies.
Speaker 4: It has to be a term that we have for ourselves.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 1: All right, Paully b. We're getting to the last couple
of ones right here. Fellas for ten bucks has salute
the OGC and further more support the GOP the Linda As.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the main focus on the Conservatives.
Speaker 1: They need to go. They all need to go, every
single one of them.
Speaker 4: It was just too funny time.
Speaker 1: That's always a good one, sir, Blank for two bucks
says please don't delist this episode best ever. It's a
very good one, all right. And then our final one
for the night is from John Marmaduke again for fifteen bucks.
We are the generation born in the wilderness, waiting on
the old folks to die before we can cross the Jordan.
There's a lot of truth to that one, unfortunately. All right, Well,
old Vox Day Day of the Pillow, you know. Anyway,
all right, let's get our last bit of promotions out
and then we'll get out here. Pete, what do you
have coming up, sir?
Speaker 2: Just drop part two with Carl Dahl and his friend
Morgar from Spain on just how a yeah, normal kind
of lukewarm socialist got radicalized in Spain and became a
fucking monster that needed to be defeated. So check it out.
Speaker 3: I We'll do all right.
Speaker 1: Everyone be sure to check out the Pequanona Show on
all your podcast platforms. Mister Jeff Younger, thank you for
coming on tonight, sir. Anything to promote. Where can people
find more of your stuff?
Speaker 3: Now? Just look for me at Jeff Younger Show on YouTube,
X and Facebook. That's a joke. By the way. I
actually took that handle because my life had become so
public because of the lawsuits that I felt like I
was in the Truman Show. And then one day somebody
said we ought to start a show, so I.
Speaker 1: Did, Well, there you go, all righty For myself, I'll
just direct everybody to all the OGC shows and our substack.
We got American Spirits on Monday, Chapter Houses on Wednesday,
Pony Express Radio of course is here Thursday. Check out
the substack where we got articles coming out every week Monday, Wednesday, Friday,
and everyone look at the OGC website Oldgloryclub dot com,
where you can find local chapters in your area that
you guys can sign up for and join form some
bonds of brotherhood, you know, just meet like minded people.
We got to get off the Internet and into the
real you know. Perhaps you guys can talk about some
of the tactics discussed in this stream tonight next OGC meetings.
Speaker 4: I'm sure that'll be very fruitful.
Speaker 1: So all right, we'll be back here next week.
Speaker 4: See you guys.
Speaker 2: Then, when I pass on my good jeens to my sons,
they're going to join the Old Glory Club.