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Speaker 2: Garrett, how the heck are you? Man? Thanks for joining us?

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Speaker 1: Hey doing great? Ben, Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I appreciate you hopping on to discuss all of

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these topics here. Let's start off with this first one here,

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what's next in the scandal that has ensnared Chauncey Phillips.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this has been quite a story, right, I mean

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it was a bombshell when this thing landed. I think

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it was last the end of November, just a few

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months ago. The you know, really big federal indictment involving

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this rigged poker ring, right that was backed by the

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mafia and Chauncey Billups is the big name of course,

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uh in this case, I mean there were I think

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there's a total of thirty one defendants, so a lot

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of people involved in this. You know, Chauncey Billups and

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most of these people have all pled not guilty, but

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things are are moving along in the process. I mean,

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if you're if you remember really what his involvement is

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and how it's alleged is that he was basically kind

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of a just a celebrity and a big name and

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would and they used him to lure victims to the

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poker table.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: It was like, hey, do you get a chance to

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play poker with Chauncey Billups. And so Chauncey Billups there

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was there to lure these people in and then it

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was a rig These were rigged games, right, I mean

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they'd lose the first one or two games to these

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unsuspecting marks and then you know, up these bets and

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take their money. So it's a big list. But what

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came out just this week in a court hearing in

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New York this isn't These charges are in the Southern

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District of New York. The prosecutors are reporting that they're

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going to reach plea deals with about two dozen of

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these defendants. So this case may be wrapping up. I

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don't know how that's gonna affect Chauncey Billups, but I

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would expect if there are plea deals happening. We've got

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a lot of defendants that are you know, turning state's

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evidence and that they're potentially ready to testify against Chauncey Billups.

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And so we'll see what happens. The judges said that

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we're looking at maybe a November two trial eight, so

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kind of moving along. The other thing that came out

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is and the judge has put a protective order on

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all of this evidence. But they've got over one hundred

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thousand pages of phone and bank records. There's a lot, right,

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big case and we'll just kind of continue to follow it.

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Speaker 3: Man, just so much drama, so much, I mean, so

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many bad decisions, right and uh man, I just hope

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everything you know turns out an a justice in a

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judicial injustice filled way.

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Speaker 3: Talk a little bit about ex Michigan assistant Chris pa Patridge.

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He's filing a lawsuit over the twenty twenty three firing

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from the Wolverines. Is it justified give us a breakdown

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of this one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly so. So Partridge. He he was a linebackers

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coach at Michigan and and he was really caught up

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in the twenty twenty three sign signs stealing scandal of

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course at Rock to Michigan, you know, where they were

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alleged of, you know, going to other teams stadiums and

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watching practice and stealing these signs. So he got wrapped

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up in this, and and there was an investigation of

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course by the NCAA, and they looked into it and

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ultimately he was cleared of any wrongdoing by the nc

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double A. And so he's moved on. He's now actually

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with the Seahawks linebackers coach. He's got an NFL job.

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my dream is actually to be a college football coach.

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to become a head coach in college and my reputation

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has been tarnished in such a way that that's going

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to be really hard for me. And you guys used

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me essentially as a scapegoat, right, And there's it sounds

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like there's some compelling evidence of that that the the

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athletic director at Michigan and some other things. They kind

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of quickly just started pointing fingers, you know, and some

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of this, you know, what ended up coming out is

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a few players came to him and said, hey, I'm

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is poking around and they're they're asking me questions what

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should I do? And according to him, he told these players, hey, hey,

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tell the truth and be you might want to get

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your own lawyer, saying that's all I said to them, Right,

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I didn't do anything. I didn't do any thing wrong,

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and you guys have just used me as a scapegoat

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and throwing me under the bus. So yeah, you know,

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another more drama at Michigan.

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Speaker 3: More drama at Michigan. The Big Ten seems to be

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a place of drama recently, Ohio State, Michigan.

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Speaker 2: You wonder if you know.

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Speaker 3: Success and money breed corruption, all manner of corruption.

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Speaker 2: What do you know? You what do you know? The

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you know the Yeah, it's crazy, man, that's even scriptural.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit about Michael Johnson, who's accused

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of fraud of over five hundred thousand dollars secret payment

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from a Grand Slam Track.

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Speaker 2: What do you have here? What's the latest here?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you remember Michael Johnson. I mean he this was,

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you know, kind of going back to famous track athlete

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from the really from the nineties. I think he ran

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in Barcelona and Atlanta. I think he's got four or

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five gold medals, I mean really decorated US track champion.

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is started essentially a professional track league I guess I'll

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call it called Grand Slam Track. And the idea was

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they were going to have these meets. They were going

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to have one in Jamaica and three in the United States,

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and this was going to attract a lot of fans

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and younger, younger fans to you know, watch these the

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big stars in the sport, just as a way to

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promote this sport. And so this really comes out of

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a bankruptcy filing. So cut to the chase, Grand Slam

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making money, not attracting the fans that they thought and

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not generating the revenue that they thought they would either.

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this company, I guess i'll call it the league. Grand

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Slam Track is going under last summer, Michael Johnson, secretly,

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the allegation is Get writes himself a check for five

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hundred thousand dollars as the as the as the thing's

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going down, and he says it's it's to repay his

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own loans he had. He was owed two point two

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million dollars of money. Anyway, fast forward to December and

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Grand Slam Trek Track filed the Chapter eleven bankruptcy. And

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so what's happening now is you have a whole bunch

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of creditors, right, including athletes and other people who had

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put money into this venture to make it go there,

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and now there's no money to pay them, right, the

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other creditors, And so they're looking at it going, well,

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wait a minute, why does Michael Johnson get his money back? First?

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Why did he How does he get to take five

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hundred thousand dollars. There was no board meeting, there was

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no oversight, nobody approved this, right, and we're getting left

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out to dry, so that this is a fraudulent transfer essentially,

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and so they're they're they're suing over that they're also

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suing because it looks like the athletes and however you

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want to look at it, they're getting taken care of

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a lot better than these other creditors, right, They're they're

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gonna get maybe eighty five cents on the dollar, where

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these creditors might get ten cents on the dollar. And

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and the allegation as well. Okay, Michael Johnson, you just

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trying to save face with these other athletes and keep

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them in your good graces. You don't care about us, right,

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have our own legal rights. So so that's what it's about,

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is just who's gonna get paid back out of this bankruptcy?

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Speaker 2: Ah?

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Speaker 3: Yes, the the money, the money, the money, five hundred

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thousand dollars secret payment, crazy stuff. How about a million dollars?

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I'm gonna up the end of a little bit. Now,

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one million dollars. The Whack has allowed Utah Valley basketball

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teams to compete in tournaments after the one million dollar payment.

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What's the latest will the Wolverines and their million dollar fee?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Things things got a little dicey actually this week

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with the Whack and UVU and Essentially, as we've kind

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of talked about, of course, this grows out of UVU's

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intention to leave the conference and that there's this buyout

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clause that's a million dollars, and the whole dispute was right,

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UVU said, well, we're not going to pay it, and

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in retaliation, the WAC said, well, then we're not going

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to let UVU play and put our postseason tournament. We're

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not going to broadcast your games, We're otherwise not going

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to promote UVU. So UVU random court of course here

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in the state of Utah filed for a preliminary injunction,

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which was granted. Right. The court here found that that

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UVU players would suffer irreparable harm if they weren't allowed

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to play in the in the conference tournament, which is

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happening right now. And so the little caveat was that

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that this million dollars that's still in dispute, right, so

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the underlying you know, essentially a breach of contract dispute

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is still ongoing, but that this million dollars would get

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deposited more or less than an escrow account, right, and

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the money hadn't been deposited yet. And according to the whack.

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There was a deadline, and that deadline was Tuesday at

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five pm, just this week, and basically they kind of

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and it's so funny how these things happen. Now, all

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the statements come. It's on Twitter, right, they're saying, Hey,

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if we don't get the money by five pm, then

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then you guys have violated this court order which which

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gave you the injunction and and so we're not bound

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by that court order to you know, let UVU play

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in the tournament. So anyway, I haven't seen the evidence

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that the money was deposited. According to UVU, it was

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in process that essentially the court would hold this money

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pending the outcome of the the underlying case. But I

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mean it's yeah, it's all money today, right then, all

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these all these disputes, it's over money. I mean, sports

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is a big business. It would have been shamed to

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have those kids left out and not let them play.

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Speaker 2: Amen to that.

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Speaker 3: It's you know, the the conference realignment drama in Sagas.

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lot of like litigation on that front. I know, there's

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but it's hasn't seemed to like really, I don't think

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any finds have been levied. Anyway, I thought it was

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interesting that the whack was was the example of, Hey,

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this is the stay we're taking. You're not leaving. The

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coach of Utah, give two million dollars back to the

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athletic department.

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Speaker 2: Of the football prom Was it football the football pro? Okay?

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Like the NIL program though? Is it just the football program?

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like wait, like is that like some sort of like

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is there is there like NC double a bylaw.

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Speaker 2: Issues with that? Is there any sort of legal issues

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Speaker 3: Could this end up being somewhat controversial? Like on the

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service you're like, oh that's so nice, right, Like what

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a what a guy?

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Speaker 2: What a gentleman.

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Speaker 3: What a scholar, right, you know, what a what a

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what a philanthropist giving back to these young student athletes,

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poor student athletes. They have no they don't have food,

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they don't have clothing. They're just you know, just bottom

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feeders now in this in this world. Anyway, I just thought,

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you know, i'd soft toss it to you and give

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me your thoughts on it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure. I got to think about what

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the legal ramifications are. I mean, my my initial impression

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is this is a pr move right, This is an

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and I think it's a way for like a Morgan

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Scalley to send a signal to the boot to boosters,

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University of Utah boosters, which is to say, hey, we

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need money for our athletic department, and we need it

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so badly that I'm even willing to put my own

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money on the line, right, my own salary and give

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back some money. And so I'm hoping you'll do you'll

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follow follow suit right and do the same. I'm gonna

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put my money where my mouth is, and you need

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to too, because the new age of college sports is,

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you know, money makes the world go round. So I

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think that's mostly what's happening. But I'm gonna I'm gonna

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give that some thought. If there's some legal ramifications to that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very intriguing to me. What does it say, ap, what's.

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Speaker 4: The least the Their official statement is it's two millions,

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two million dollars to the Utah football program.

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Speaker 2: So to football program. Yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Just it wasn't clear to me if it was going

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specifically to players, like as if he's paying two million

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of players.

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Speaker 2: I was wondering, well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well there used to be like I mean used

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to like, you know, you couldn't even let the kids

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come over to your house tea. I think you can

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feed them. I think that's what you could do as

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a coach. You could feed them. But that was just.

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Speaker 4: Wondering if that was going to be an issue with

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the revenue share?

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Speaker 2: Is that? Yeah, what boundaries is he may be crossing? Yeah,

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I don't know. I don't know if he is.

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Speaker 3: It's a it's this is a true free market, capitalistic

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world we're living in. There's no by laws anymore. There's

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no legal rampification for for nothing right now, right Garrett,

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it seems like it's everything's in play.

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Speaker 1: Everything's kosher, right right, and well it is a moving

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target of course with this stuff. But I mean it

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would make sense, you know, I think along the lines

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of what you're saying for Morgan Scalley to if he

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wanted to get a legal opinion, he could certainly do

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get that. But to make this you know, quote unquote

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contribution in the right way, whether he's got to do

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that through into an nile collective, you know, as opposed

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to again where there's kind of some co mingling of

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money and then who is it actually going to?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: I mean, if it just goes into a you know,

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a larger fund, maybe there's you know, nothing wrong with that,

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but yeah, it just brings up a lot of questions.

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Is all new new territory, new ground that we're covering

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all the time.

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Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, I will say this much, you know, Morgan

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Scalley donating ten percent of his contract to the you

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you know and tithes and offering.

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Speaker 2: I'm kidding, what a guy? What a guy?

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Speaker 3: Anyway, last thing, actually, any updates. I do think we

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have a maybe a hearing was it with Parker Kingson's

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that March twenty fifth is the next come around go

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around for for.

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Speaker 1: This that's yeah. I think that's right. It was an

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April hearing it and it did get moved up. I

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haven't heard anything anything lately on this.

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Speaker 2: But so let me ask you this one. Oh go ahead,

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go ahead, No, no, go ahead, Sorry I cut you off.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was just going to say a little bit

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of a side note. We've talked a lot about sports gambling,

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all these you know, lawsuits and controversies about that. B

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YU alum Mickay Coppins, who's a great journalist. He's a

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writer for the Atlantic, and he's got a big cover

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story out just today about about sports gambling, and it's

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a great read. It's a long article, but I just

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wanted to kind of share that with some of your

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listeners there who might be fans of his writing. You know,

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there's some discussion in there about being a BYU alum,

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so it's kind of good.

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Speaker 3: Well here's a philosophical discussion then, as as you brought

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that up, because I've you know, on this show, we

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have done advertisements for for like these gambling sites, and

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I came to the point where like, man, I don't like,

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I don't gamble myself when I when I've tried it,

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I've lost money, and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Like, wow, why I would I even do that?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it could be fun at the blackjack table

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whatever Texas holding with the boys, you know, has fans

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asked to have a nice uh you know, cold beverage,

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you know, have it like a late night with the

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boys and have some fun there and and put in

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a little bit of fun money in there, et cetera.

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the the young men are just getting demolished right now

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with the game of fication of gambling and sports. They

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love sports, obviously, and you know, they want to make

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a little bit of money and they think that they're

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competent enough to go gamble, and what they realize is

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they lose more than they win.

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Speaker 2: And then you get addicted.

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Speaker 3: And I mean the dopamine and the biochemistry behind it all.

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uh and this is where it gets philosophical though, a

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lot of people think that without gambling and the sports book,

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that sports and the money that booies, it goes away.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that is Does it go away?

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You know what I mean? Does it? Does it disintegrate.

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Speaker 1: There's an argument about that that in recent years, for example,

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like TV revenues have been have been dropping, and so

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you know, leagues and teams have been looking for ways

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to generate more revenue. I mean, if you I mean

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in the not too distant past, right, I mean, it

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was the leagues, it was the teams that were saying,

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no way, we cannot allow sports betting. This will be

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the end of you know, of fairness in sports, and

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we just cannot have it. And guess what, as soon

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as it was allowed, I'm telling you, these leagues and teams,

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with their arms wide open, went running right towards sports

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betting and have totally embraced it, right, I mean, if

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you want to talk about kind of philosophical moral issues,

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I mean, they have had no problems cashing in on this.

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And again maybe that's a way to make up for

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some other revenue deficits. But it's a huge industry. It's

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just massive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean that the stats are something as you're talking

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about kind of younger men. I mean it's like forty

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I mean almost half in a certain age range. You know,

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it might be like teen to twenty nine or something,

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you know, I have done some sports gambling, so it's

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really big.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, it's crazy times in the in

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the sports and law world. That's what we do here

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at Onto Utah's ESPN Ready to Network. Bring on Garrett

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Speaker 2: We wish him well. He was able to join us today.

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Speaker 3: From a handy Law Utah handylawuta dot com. But but

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it's not sports and law that you guys are always

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Speaker 2: You're talking about injuries and law.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly right. We do talk sports law in here,

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Speaker 3: Boom Shock a lock. Garrett, we appreciate you, big ugaroar

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to you. We salute you. Thanks for laying some knowledge

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on us today and enriching our lives with a little

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sports court today.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, thank you.

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I caught up with legend Glasger number eighty eight, soon

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to be if he earns.

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Speaker 2: It, number one. Could you imagine eighty eighth? You good

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number file? So he could be number one.

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Speaker 3: And by that I don't make it necessarily mean like

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wide receiver one, but actually the number one, he's gonna

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tell you what he's shooting for and what he's got

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to earn because the number one is actually open right

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now on the roster.

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Speaker 2: Apparently I was not I was not aware that. But

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he's got