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Thanks for telling a friend.
Speaker 2: It's a bomby twelve degrees.
Speaker 3: Where we are, but with the wind it feels like ten.
Speaker 2: It does it. It's like it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: How they cold it's better and uh, you don't get
snow days, no, no, so but I need to get holidays.
Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't get those me while my wife, God
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Speaker 1: There's there's not much going on or much to talk
about in the world, so I don't I don't know
if you have anything on your mind.
Speaker 2: I'm kidding.
Speaker 1: I have a couple of things today I'm noticing.
Speaker 2: And before we get to kind of the.
Speaker 1: News that will uh, we'll talk about and.
Speaker 2: We all know what it is.
Speaker 1: But I have two things I need to complain about.
Speaker 2: One is.
Speaker 1: The expressways are not. I don't care what fucking city
you live in.
Speaker 2: Excuse me. Somebody said I swear too much.
Speaker 1: Wait, they do, try to get I don't care what
city you live in. They are not the autobot they're not.
And I have seen more people morning and evening or
let's say late afternoon, like coming across three lanes. Man,
there's zip zip, zip, zip zip, and I go, you're
not that good. You're not because if something happens, you're
gonna take a family out. Yes, And I know you're
in a rush, or I know you're pissed off, or
I know something's up, I get it, or the car
feels so good now they feel safe, like I can't
tell how fast I'm going to ever do that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I've done that. I'm like the Thruway with.
Speaker 1: No one around, and then you look down it and go,
holy shit, I'm doing ninety you know.
Speaker 2: And and not that you you can handle it there.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is you don't know what the
other car in front of you is gonna do, right
and there. You don't know their driving experience. You don't
know their driving deterioration of the skills as they go.
You don't know they're texting and driving one hundred percent,
and you don't know a only do you have.
Speaker 4: To be a defensive driver. Nowadays you have to play
special teams too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give you that. I was good.
Speaker 1: Uh, yes, because I always used to. I used to joke. Uh,
you know, driving used to be what we did. Now
it's what you do while you check your email, talk
to your wife, do whatever, right, I mean, oh yeah,
And the Bluetooth and stuff and hands free the connection
where you don't even have to reach for whatever you're
listening to I'll say most people are probably listening to
some sort of a bluetooth thing or satellite and you
can just kind of push it and you know, a
podcast or whatever. But you can do it all from
the steering well, and that's fantastic and I like that,
but it's the driving stuff. And I only say that
because I'm watching and I know that I probably sound
like an old curmudgeon. I love driving fast. I fucking
love it, and I always did my entire life. And
I probably was that guy because he was usually running late.
And I see it now and I go ooh like
it almost. I'll see them coming in the rear view
mirror and I go, boy, you get behind the wrong
person and they get startled because you come up so
quickly right, and then they punch it because they see it,
but they don't see how close they are to the
carn and from you could have a freaking ow, unbelievable
accident that would wipe everybody out. You maybe all survive
because cars are built so well now, but you're what
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were going Who's Gonna Be? And I said to you,
my money is on Joe Brady, and I'll have to
go back. I meant to go back and pull it,
but I wanted up at basketball today and there we
was just things.
Speaker 2: Joe Brady is was the offensive coordinator. He is now
the head coach of the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: I said, and I think I might even backtracked a
little because Peter was like nah, and I said, well,
then I'll say dable, but Brady, I go, Brady's right there.
I have a feeling it's gonna be Joe Brady. I
will I will defer to you, my friend, because I
don't know much about Joe Brady, but I know that
things certainly seem to improve since he became the offensive
coordinator for the Buffalo Bills. Were we talking like an
average of twenty nine or thirty points a game? I
think they had the lowest one of the lowest. They
were in the top five of everything, like four to
three and two or something like that. In terms of
statistics that were great, like a better run game, better
run option, there was like zero point nine turnal verse.
I know that sounds weird, but since he became the
offensive coordinator, so.
Speaker 2: Thoughts a lot.
Speaker 4: I don't want to go on a twelve minute tangent,
so I'm gonna try to say something that nobody said yet. Okay, okay,
First of all, congratulations to you and Chris Sims.
Speaker 3: We actually calling Joe Brady even though you both said.
Speaker 4: Chris Sims or Brian Dable yes, which a lot of
people did. Yeah, a lot of people said table, they
didn't say Joe Brady. I just felt you guys were
the only two, and you guys hedged. That's how little
anybody thought of Joe Brady being the head coach.
Speaker 2: In fact, it's an underwhelming pick.
Speaker 4: Right According to Cashi and according to other sports betting
apps Monday night, the favorite to become the Bills head
coach was Grant you Didnski, the offensive coordinator who doesn't.
Speaker 3: Call plays for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 4: That's how little America and the betters in Vegas and
thought of Joe Brady. Let me say this, what's the
best way to hurt your opponent legally, not like trying
to like if if you're in a competition, what's the
best way to beat your competition? One way, not maybe
not the best way, but one way is to take
something that's theirs. Like if somebody took Josh Allen and
brought them to their team, that would be a huge
blown it. Okay, Joe Brady's been up for head coaching
jobs each of the last three years. Who has hired
Think of two teams right now, maybe three teams who
are Bills rivals. Teams of the Bills are in direct
competition with, well, there's three in their division Miami. There's Miami.
Speaker 3: Right, there's the Jets, who are a joke, I mean
aaron They fired their entire coach exta and to.
Speaker 2: The head coach, why don't you just fire the head coach? Right?
Speaker 3: And they did it like two weeks after the steato, right, okay.
And then you have the New England Patriots.
Speaker 4: All of them have now fired and hired head coaches
in the past three years. One of those two teams
have done it twice.
Speaker 3: Okay. Then you have another team. There's what are some
two other teams?
Speaker 4: Well, the Bills are always competing with the Baltimore Ravens
and the Kansas City Chiefs, and those two teams are
always like, they're always like, you know, causing the Bills headaches, right,
and the Ravens interviewed Joe Brady after firing a Super
Bowl winning head coach. They interviewed Joe Brady, the Dolphins
interviewed Joe Brady, the Patriots hired two head coaches the
last two years and didn't hire Joe Brady, and the
Jets didn't hire Joe Brady. And yet somehow the Buffalo
Bills felt after the Ravens went outside their organization. They
had a guy named Todd monktin their offensive coordinator who
they brought in specifically for Lamar Jackson to help Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3: They didn't elevate him.
Speaker 1: Remember I said to you, and I said this the
last time. There must be something where Brady feels like
he could open up that offense, but McDermott isn't letting him.
And I said to Peter, McDermott's uptight. And it almost
translates to the field. Sometimes the team seems to play tight.
Speaker 3: Yea.
Speaker 4: And if you read Tyler Dunn's articles that go long, yeah,
they say that.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So that was just an observation.
Speaker 1: Now I don't know that they're like, well, you know what,
we got to open it up. We got it because
I can't think of a more pressure field position in
the NFL than the Buffalo Bill's head coaching job. Because
Josh Allen is Josh Allen for how long? And if
you don't make it to the super Bowl and I'll
say in two years, well what the fuck was the point?
Speaker 2: Okay, So I feel like there's high pressure.
Speaker 1: But I also wonder if by sometimes going to interview
for another job, they go, well, we don't want to
lose him, we don't want to lose him. And I
wonder if when they had the meeting with McDermott and
McDermott goes, we don't have the roster, if they're like, well,
f this and they're.
Speaker 2: Look, we heard that part of the thing.
Speaker 1: Dabel and McDermott would get in fights and right and so,
and Dable left and got a head coaching job, and
there was all kinds of things like we had heard
all this in fighting stuff.
Speaker 2: Again, we're not there, we don't know. So I wonder
if there was something like that.
Speaker 1: And here's why I say that Philip Rivers was going
in big news everywhere that Philip Rivers was going to
interview for the head coaching job and Mike McDaniels and
then all of a sudden, Mike McDaniels withdraws. Why because
I think that they were trying to get offensive coordinators.
I think they were trying to pick who was going
to be their off defensive coordinator. They already knew who
their head coach was, But could we get somebody who
really fully understands what the Colts are doing and had
a pretty good season and that's the offense he was running,
and he's played in the league for a number of years.
Would Philip Rivers be a good fit or would McDermot
with McDaniels, who everybody says is an offensive genius but
already had to deal with San Diego was only interviewing
for head coaching, And when I heard both those guys
with Drew, I went, it's done, It's going to be Brady.
Speaker 2: And then it came out that it was Brady, and
I go, yeah, it makes sense. Why do we demand
perfection from the unproven? Right? We want perfection, That's what
everybody's saying. Why Brady? Why Brady?
Speaker 1: But if they brought in Harball, we would be patient
with the powerful It's Harball. Now, maybe that's a bad example.
I'm not sure, but I know like Giants fans seem
to be pretty excited that Harball always fired by the
Ravens is now the head coach of the Giants, And
it is one of these things where you know, if
Mike McCarthy came to Buffalo, would you have a little
more confidence even though nothing's happened yet. Then we would
now that Brady's there, and we just don't have that
unproven And I don't know that anybody doesn't like Brady.
Speaker 2: I think that they just don't want to look like idiots.
Speaker 3: I think that this year was the worst year to
fire a head coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think the time the fire Sean McDermott was either
after thirteen seconds or the year after third or two
or two years later twenty thirteen when Tyler bassmist a
field goal and you couldn't beat the Chiefs at home.
Speaker 3: I mean, hey, this is what we wanted, right, We
got the Chiefs at home.
Speaker 2: They're the hurdle. Let's beat him.
Speaker 4: Couldn't beat them. That was the time of fire Seaw
McDermott and bring in Ben Johnson. They didn't do that.
Speaker 3: They kept up what's the contract extension?
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say where would you have fallen? On Bill belichick being
our first Ballot hall Of.
Speaker 4: Famer we're the first Ballot hall of. Famer, wow if
ands or, butts he will. Travesty he won Six Super
bowls in nine appearances and also coordinated the defense for
Two Super bowls Super bowl. Champions he's got a vote
that says eight. Rings he's trying to stick at the
braid Because brady has Seven, yeah so.
Speaker 2: Okay but but he wasn't a head coach for the.
Speaker 3: No The giants, though he was not the head. Coach
from What i'm, Gathering bill poll Had oh.
Speaker 2: It was your, Boy Bill.
Speaker 3: Pollian, No, no here's what. Happened Bill pollion says that
you could verify. This it's been.
Speaker 4: CHECKED i did vote For Bill belichick and he's reading
a statement ON nfl.
Speaker 2: Rate, yeah because because they were killing. Him there's a
rumor to this was a.
Speaker 4: He And robert kraft Sabotaged Bill belichick's first Ballot hall
Of fame vote because.
Speaker 2: Of. Spygate when is punishment?
Speaker 1: Enough you lost draft, picks, right and your reputation never fully.
Recovered we were it was A Bill Belichiet, bellichie thank.
You he got, fined publicly, embarrassed the. Franchise all this
stuff was already done by the. Week, yeah and yet despite,
that you came back and you won again anyone again and.
Again Uh so that's my. Question so what's the line in?
Life what's the line.
Speaker 3: Once the punishment is? Fulfilled that should be.
Speaker 2: It, yeah but at what point does punishment become like?
Branding he's?
Speaker 3: Branded oh, yeah but it's it's always the.
Speaker 4: CASE i, mean even with innocent people who were throwing,
guilt found, guilty and then you find out they're. Innocent,
yeah BUT i don't know about. That there's always this
stigma surrounding.
Speaker 2: You because here's the.
Speaker 1: Thing USUALLY i always, say and you can think about
this with your own, friends your own, memories your, relatives
all that the story gets greater.
Speaker 2: Later.
Speaker 1: Right my grandfather used to, say, uh like you, know he's,
uh my grandmother be. Yelling it goes to WHAT I
dieobia shafes, right because you become a holes never. Died,
no but my point is that like you be get
sainted by the Other he was so.
Speaker 2: WONDERFUL i miss him at. Whatever and it's, funny, ma
BECAUSE i don't. Remember you're saying that a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Died SO i, go it's convenient to rewrite history in some.
Speaker 2: Way, yes there was the.
Speaker 1: SPYGATE i don't think we ever really got confirmation one
way or the. Other THE nfl felt like there was
enough evidence there and so they were. Punished does this
mean That brady will get punished.
Speaker 2: For the flight Gate, yeah great.
Speaker 1: Question but by the way they took its FUN i
mean there was all kinds of shit that went, On
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Speaker 2: Com lady goes for a walk with her dog in the.
Speaker 3: Woods it's a true. Story is like a.
Speaker 2: Joke, no, okay it's a true. Story it's a, joke
just doing, rabbi a black guy and a. Right how
does that?
Speaker 3: END i don't.
Speaker 2: Know, well that's What i'm thinking for.
Speaker 1: Somebody, yeah so, Late i'm pretty sure a lady went
for a walk with her dog or let the dog,
out and the dog ran off and she gets out
in the woods and she gets. Disoriented she did no
where like you. Can't and it was right after the
storm or right around the time of the. Storm so The
Monroe County sheriff where we, live had to go and
do a rescue In honeyway to find this. Person and
there is a chance that you went without your.
Speaker 2: PHONE i just want the. People, WELL i can't imagine.
Speaker 1: That because she called, somehow she must have, called So
i'm thinking she had her. PHONE i didn't think that
through she had to have her, phone Because i'm not
saying that once it gets dark and there's so much cloud,
cover you can't really follow the north, star you know
WHAT i, mean that'll always point you north at least
then maybe and get some bearing as to what everything after.
That but so let's take that. Out but you have
accomplish on. There but most people don't know what direction
they live, in so they don't know and there's probably
other footsteps that you get all.
Speaker 2: Confused so they had to go out and.
Speaker 1: Rescuer, NOW i used to say AND i AND i
always kind of stood by. THIS i think that if
they have to do a rescue for you because.
Speaker 2: Of something dumb you, did.
Speaker 3: You got to pay for.
Speaker 2: It you got to pay for it where you're.
Speaker 1: Going, YES i think like there was once a guy
who went down into The Genesee river at the city
and he was going to take pictures and he got
stranded on a.
Speaker 2: Rock they had to bring out the ropes guys to
repel down and save him because he was being. Dumb
don't go down where there's rushing.
Speaker 3: Water, yeah they had him a bill for parts and.
Speaker 2: Labor they don't time six. Guys i'm pretty sure they.
Speaker 1: Don't but that's you. Want people want to go my tax.
Dollars there's your tax dollars right right. NOW i will,
Say god forbid anything ever happened like you you, know
and you needed. That, okay it's. There but, again guy
walking down In Letchworth, park The Grand canyon of The,
east and he's walking along and there's a trail closed
or do not walk on this trail River and the
next thing you, know we have to have a helicopter
rescue because you went and it was your, choice your.
Choice i'm not sure with this, Woman i'm on the.
Fence i'm on the fence BECAUSE i can't, remember and
we had little technical difficulty in the beginning AND i
had to restart, things and so things got, lost And
i'm trying to go from memory on the.
Speaker 2: STORY i can't remember if she chased after.
Speaker 1: The dog that ran, out or she was walking with
the dog and maybe let it off leash like you
might in the woods and it took.
Speaker 2: Off So i'm going should she have to pay for
this or should she not have to pay for?
Speaker 1: It because it was truly an, Accident and that is
why we have fire and, rescue, Right that's why we
have them to rescue, us to save.
Speaker 2: Us, yeah, Right, like let.
Speaker 3: Me ask you a. Question if your house catches, FIRE.
Speaker 2: I was just going, there but go, ahead unless it
was your.
Speaker 4: Fault it was, arson or if it was somehow like you,
play like If i'm playing.
Speaker 3: With matches with the hairspray LIKE i like to. Do,
hey but watch, This.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get rid of these, flies these Washed.
Speaker 3: Do you have a stick bug problem in your house? Too,
yeah BECAUSE i, do or or.
Speaker 2: Not as common, today BUT i think it could still
happen smoking in.
Speaker 3: Bed, yeah people still do.
Speaker 2: THAT i forget fall asleep, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now there's a lot of flame retardant things you could,
buy blankets and. STUFF i believe that people may. HAVE
i think they even just make it automatically.
Speaker 2: Because of probably those idiots in.
Speaker 1: That but if we had to rescue somebody because they
were smoking in, bed what do we.
Speaker 2: Say their fault Or, hey that's what we're all here.
FOR i don't. KNOW i don't really.
Speaker 3: Know accidents. Happened it's just it's a.
Speaker 4: Tough call BECAUSE i don't want to Because i'm the
idiot who would, say, oh they ought to pay for,
it and then do something. Stupid my house catches fire
and then all of a, sudden oh wait a.
Speaker 1: Minute you KNOW i was, very very righteous and idealists
for many years this, story, yeah.
Speaker 2: UNTIL i went what an? IDIOT i may may may
maybe Maybe i'm wrong. HERE i might be.
Speaker 4: WRONG i know WHEN i first started in, radio mice
sleep schedule was so.
Speaker 3: Bad one, DAY i was, tired like five.
Speaker 4: O'clock i'm gonna make some ramen, noodles, Right SO i
start to boil the. Water and then when the water's,
boiling you throw the ram noodles. In SO i gotta
lay on the couch while it's boiling because it takes.
Forever next, thing you, know smoke detector goes. Off twenty minutes.
LATER i actually burned the. Water it dried.
Speaker 2: Up, oh burned the. Pot it smoked. Out i'm, LIKE
i could HAVE.
Speaker 4: I know people who actually died doing. That they were,
drunk they came home to try to make something to.
Eat they passed out on the, couch caught, fire the
stove caught, fire burned the house, down killed two girls
back home In.
Speaker 2: Silver Great.
Speaker 3: Dunkirk but, yeah and so it's LIKE.
Speaker 4: I but my point IS i could do something stupid like,
that and, like well wait a, minute, NOW i had.
Speaker 2: The top finder sticker.
Speaker 3: Up BUT i pay my. TAXES i shouldn't be in
trouble for hang on a second, though But i'm dumb
enough to do.
Speaker 2: So i'm just saying it Was. Dunkirk it's that. Terrible
now you.
Speaker 3: Know these GIRLS i did their? Father oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah uh FOR.
Speaker 1: I almost said the wrong, name not the wrong name on,
Purpose that wasn't. IT i was going to see your
old name for. Rape oh, okay For Dan, marilla who
is all about, forgiveness but not with The buffalo. Bills
you better have got it.
Speaker 2: Right my, Forgiveness my forgiveness runs out for. Them, NO
i don't know.
Speaker 3: Yet look we're GONNA i. Hope i'm as wrong About
Joe brady AS i was About Josh.
Speaker 2: Allen, okay, GOOD i SAID i wanted to be.
Speaker 4: More wrong About Josh allen than my first, marriage and
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