Speaker 1: Big night in the world of college basketball, both locally
Speaker 1: and nationally. We'll get to the five o'clock out of
Speaker 1: the program. We're gonna hand it over to Bill Riley
Speaker 1: and Sean Mooney for pregame coverage of you Top men's
Speaker 1: hoops tonight as they take on West Virginia at the
Speaker 1: Huntsman Center byu is An Ames to take on Iowa State.
Speaker 1: Our next guest, the Seer of college basketball, the smartest
Speaker 1: college basketball guy around, good enough to join us with
Speaker 1: not a lot of notice on a Tuesday, Ken Palm,
Speaker 1: Ken Palmroy, Happy Tuesday, sir, how are you.
Speaker 2: Hey, Spence. I'm doing great, looking forward to the upcoming
Speaker 2: madness sies we get into singule elimination basketball.
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, it's a great time of year and Ken,
Speaker 1: obviously this news is not finalized, but I do have
Speaker 1: to get your take on the reports from college basketball
Speaker 1: newsbreakers like Rastein and h and Goodman as well our
Speaker 1: very own Sean O'Connell also reporting that it appears Alex
Speaker 1: Smith is in line to be the next head coach
Speaker 1: of the University of Utah. I know you know, Alex well,
Speaker 1: should this become the deal and should this become official.
Speaker 3: What's your thought on the fit.
Speaker 2: I think it's a great fit, assuming you mean Alex
Speaker 2: Jenson and not Alex Smith.
Speaker 1: Did I say Alex Smith again? I've done that four
Speaker 1: times on the show. Alex Jensen. Yes, Alex Jensen, that's okay.
Speaker 2: I think yeah. I mean it's you know, obviously the
Speaker 2: ties are strong and the loyalty is there, and I think,
Speaker 2: you know, the modern game, there's probably less difference between
Speaker 2: running or assisting in an NBA program and a college
Speaker 2: program at this point. So so yeah, it'll be great
Speaker 2: to have Alex back up on the hill and looking
Speaker 2: forward to a new era of UTES basketball. Hopefully it
Speaker 2: goes well. I mean we were, you know, when Craig
Speaker 2: Smith was hired. We thought that was the right hire too,
Speaker 2: and and you know, he checked all the boxes and
Speaker 2: ultimately it didn't quite work out. So you never know
Speaker 2: about these things. But it does seem like like Alex.
Speaker 1: Is the right choice at this point based off of
Speaker 1: the success of Kevin Young and the b YU basketball program.
Speaker 1: You know, once upon a time, But can I believe
Speaker 1: I said Alex Smith again, I've said that like five
Speaker 1: times there.
Speaker 3: Once upon a.
Speaker 1: Time, the idea of an Alex Jensen or a guy
Speaker 1: like Kevin Leaving the pros for college seemed like kind
Speaker 1: of a silly thing. Do you think we're going to
Speaker 1: see more of this as a result of the change
Speaker 1: to the sport where you know, players can.
Speaker 3: Kind of come and go in a way they couldn't
Speaker 3: prior to.
Speaker 1: And maybe Alex had done his calculation and once upon
Speaker 1: a time I thought he'd be an NBA head coach.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that he never got that opportunity. Maybe still work,
Speaker 1: Maybe he still will. He's forty eight years old. But
Speaker 1: do you think the success of what Brigham Young has
Speaker 1: been able to do by hiring essentially an entirely pro staff,
Speaker 1: is that something we're going to start seeing maybe more
Speaker 1: commonplace in college hoops?
Speaker 2: Possibly? I think, you know, if you get you can
Speaker 2: get the deal worked the right way for sure, And
Speaker 2: like you said, like there's still probably a past for
Speaker 2: Alex to if you have success here, to to jump
Speaker 2: back to the NBA if he wants. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: especially if you can kind of detach yourself maybe from
Speaker 2: the recruiting part of it. You know, if you have
Speaker 2: a separate general manager that we're seeing a lot of
Speaker 2: schools go to now that can kind of organize the
Speaker 2: recruiting aspect of things. Uh, you know, I think that's
Speaker 2: always the the drawback of coaching at the college level
Speaker 2: is the amount of work you have to do to
Speaker 2: get players, Whereas you know, you're really not doing that
Speaker 2: much work as a assistant coach or a head coach
Speaker 2: in the NBA. So as we had to that more,
Speaker 2: you know, more of that kind of a model, I
Speaker 2: think it does become a more appealing job for some
Speaker 2: of these guys in the NBA who realize that, hey,
Speaker 2: there's only you know, thirty head coaching jobs in the NBA.
Speaker 2: So uh, even if you even if you are qualified
Speaker 2: to be an NBA head coach, really hard to get one.
Speaker 2: You look at the openings that happened in the NBA
Speaker 2: every year, and a lot of those openings end up
Speaker 2: going to guys who have already been head coaches. So
Speaker 2: it's just really tough to break in.
Speaker 1: At that level.
Speaker 2: And so maybe you know, that's backing into the calculus
Speaker 2: here for Alex wanting to come back to the college level.
Speaker 1: Ye, what are your thoughts is when you heard the
Speaker 1: news that Craig had been let go and you know,
Speaker 1: ultimately Craig is very young. I think he has a
Speaker 1: lot of coaching ahead of him. And also the thoughts
Speaker 1: on because they were picked to finish last in the
Speaker 1: conference and they might finish you know, eight, nine, ten,
Speaker 1: We'll see how the rest of the season goes. There's
Speaker 1: there's a case to be made ken that he actually
Speaker 1: did a pretty good job and in my opinion, he
Speaker 1: just didn't have the talent that a lot of his
Speaker 1: peers did in the Big twelve.
Speaker 3: So what are your thoughts on Mark Carlin deciding to
Speaker 3: let Craig go.
Speaker 2: I think he sund it up pretty well there. It
Speaker 2: wasn't really surprising that he was let go. I mean,
Speaker 2: the program had kind of stagnated, and as you mentioned
Speaker 2: that there may be and there are reasons for that
Speaker 2: outside of craigsmith coaching ability. I mean, Craigsmith that succeeded
Speaker 2: at multiple previous stops, so it's not like he just
Speaker 2: suddenly forgot how to coach. And as you mentioned, they
Speaker 2: also you know, probably overachieved this year given the roster.
Speaker 2: You know, they're finishing the season pretty strong. The timing
Speaker 2: was really what was surprising. Come off with the wins
Speaker 2: against Kansas and Kansas State, and it was almost like,
Speaker 2: you know, administration was just waiting for for the next
Speaker 2: loss to to let him go, and they didn't. They
Speaker 2: didn't get that against Kansas or Kansas State. So it
Speaker 2: did happened after the use of the f game. But Craig,
Speaker 2: you know, he's gonna he's gonna get another head coaching
Speaker 2: job somewhere. It seems like fairly obvious that will happen.
Speaker 2: It might be at a lower level, but Craig can
Speaker 2: still coach, and uh, you know, he's always a great personality,
Speaker 2: a great representative of your your program. Not that matters
Speaker 2: if you can't win, but I think if he, you know,
Speaker 2: goes to another program, maybe at a slightly lower conference
Speaker 2: that has you know, better resources at its level, you know,
Speaker 2: I think there's no reason for him, you know, not
Speaker 2: to be successful again. It kind of reminds me of
Speaker 2: the ten Miles situation. Obviously, those two guys are are
Speaker 2: connected from uh, you know, previous years working together. But
Speaker 2: you know, Tim Miles gets fired at Nebraska, he ends
Speaker 2: up at San Jose State pretty quickly, and Craig Smit,
Speaker 2: I think, is going to have that opportunity as well.
Speaker 1: All right, moving off the coaching news, there is a
Speaker 1: Utah basketball game tonight, and you know, I'm sure it's
Speaker 1: going to be tough for coach Eiler to keep this
Speaker 1: team focused. And this is a group of young men
Speaker 1: that have been through a lot over the past couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, certainly losing their head coach, and they were
Speaker 1: able to get a win against a very depleted Arizona
Speaker 1: State team. Actually, before we get to West Virginia, Bobby Hurley,
Speaker 1: is he in trouble when it comes to his job?
Speaker 1: And why are they rolling around with like five scholarship
Speaker 1: players right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question. So he may be in trouble.
Speaker 2: I mean it's you know, he's found the similar kind
Speaker 2: of trajectories as Craig Smith dead, except Bobby Hurley has
Speaker 2: done it over you know, the course of ten years
Speaker 2: of Arizona State. So yeah, I mean, there's they suffer
Speaker 2: from the same issues that other programs up are from
Speaker 2: where they you know, they don't have the resources necessarily
Speaker 2: to compete with you know, the better schools in the league.
Speaker 2: That's holding Bobby Hurley back a bit. But even so,
Speaker 2: you wouldn't wonder why they would continue continue on with
Speaker 2: with Bobby Hurley given the complete, you know, lack of
Speaker 2: recent success, and I don't know why they don't have
Speaker 2: more more scholarship players to lean on. This seems to
Speaker 2: be been an issue. It's not just the first time
Speaker 2: that's happened at Arizona State where they've kind of gotten
Speaker 2: at the end of the season and gotten beat up
Speaker 2: with some injuries and whatnot, and you know, just don't
Speaker 2: have the depth to uh to roll out of, you know,
Speaker 2: a seven or eight man rotation by the end of
Speaker 2: the year. So I don't know what's going on with
Speaker 2: that either, but obviously that's the program that is in
Speaker 2: a in a tail spin this year. And uh, you
Speaker 2: know it's I'm not heard, I'm not an insider on
Speaker 2: coaching news spent, but it would seem to be, uh,
Speaker 2: it would seem to be the time for for Arizona
Speaker 2: State pitching.
Speaker 1: So West Virginia in town and i West Virginia beat
Speaker 1: Iowa States back at the beginning in Big twelve play.
Speaker 1: They also beat Kansas, but I guess everybody's beat Kansas.
Speaker 1: They also beat Arizona. They have like randomly three really
Speaker 1: good wins. They got dog walked at the Marriott Center
Speaker 1: by you smoked them. And this is, I don't know,
Speaker 1: a sneaky big game because both these teams are eight
Speaker 1: and ten in Big twelve play, So of course you
Speaker 1: want to get the win and try to get the
Speaker 1: best seat you possibly can. Tell us, what do you
Speaker 1: drop against tonight as West Virginia roles in the town.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, first of all, West Virginia is
Speaker 2: in the Mets for a not large of it still,
Speaker 2: so this is going to be a big game for them.
Speaker 2: This is one they could really use. What would probably
Speaker 2: be you know, one of those nice quad one wins
Speaker 2: because it is on the road, so that to start.
Speaker 2: And West Virginia. Speaking of head coaches that have done well,
Speaker 2: Darian Debrees in his first year, you know, it was
Speaker 2: really surprised, you know, people across the country with the
Speaker 2: way West Rnius performance year. They were not expected to
Speaker 2: be a tournament team. They got to transfer Jamon Small
Speaker 2: from Oklahoma State, who was really one of the best
Speaker 2: scorers in the league. Six y three guard for them,
Speaker 2: and they play with the autstanding defense or defensive ranked
Speaker 2: fifteenth in the country, and that's really what kind of
Speaker 2: has carried them this year. Along with a pretty strong
Speaker 2: home court advantage. So that's the story on them. They
Speaker 2: also daring Breeze's Sun Tucker to Breeze early is probably
Speaker 2: the best player on the roster, but you got injured
Speaker 2: early in the year and has not played it will
Speaker 2: not play the rest of the year. So just an incredible,
Speaker 2: you know, coaching job, first of all. And it will
Speaker 2: be a challenge to score some points against this team,
Speaker 2: and it's going to be a grind, grinding, low scorings
Speaker 2: game probably played in the sixties.
Speaker 3: Tonight, all right, b YU with a really big one tonight.
Speaker 1: But before we get to what BYU has in front
Speaker 1: of them when it comes to a big game against
Speaker 1: Iowa State tonight in Ames, let's just get your thoughts
Speaker 1: on the latest with what BYU has been able to do.
Speaker 1: They've won six straight basketball games, they've won ten of
Speaker 1: their last twelve, and you know, the West Virginia game
Speaker 1: ken was interesting because they could not hit the broadside
Speaker 1: of a bar in the first half. They did not
Speaker 1: hit a three in the first half. They lit it
Speaker 1: up in the second, but a lot of it was
Speaker 1: paid points, a lot of it was foos. And you know,
Speaker 1: now they find themselves after winning McHale, following up to
Speaker 1: win against Kansas, I feel like certainly a lot for
Speaker 1: the tournament and potentially getting a top four seed, which
Speaker 1: give you a double buy into the quarter So before
Speaker 1: we get to tonight, what has gone so right for
Speaker 1: Kevin Young and his BYU basketball team as of late.
Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned, you know, being able to being able
Speaker 2: to have a successful offense really without greade three point shooting.
Speaker 2: This is the team that takes a lot of threes.
Speaker 2: There're seventeens in the country in terms of the percentage
Speaker 2: of field goal times from three point range. There's seventeenth
Speaker 2: in the country from the number of points they get
Speaker 2: from three point range. So in one sense, the offense
Speaker 2: is you know, it's really clicking. It's it's clicking with
Speaker 2: getting threes. But they're also top five in the country
Speaker 2: in terms of two point percentage, and that's huge. I mean,
Speaker 2: just a well oiled offense right now. They don't necessarily
Speaker 2: do anything else great, but they can shoot it and
Speaker 2: that space is the floor. And you know, they obviously
Speaker 2: have two very effective big men in terms of trayory
Speaker 2: and in Kava Cata Uh. You know that allows them
Speaker 2: to finish you know on lobs and and when you
Speaker 2: have that kind of space that is generated by the shooters,
Speaker 2: really hard to for those you know defenders on the
Speaker 2: wing to help on take and roll and so you know,
Speaker 2: you can still be effective, eve when they're not hitting three.
Speaker 2: I think people are always going to respect the three
Speaker 2: in any game, whether they're going it or not, because
Speaker 2: they know the YU pretty much has three or four
Speaker 2: knockdown shooters on the court at every time. So they're
Speaker 2: playing with house money tonight. I mean this winning streat
Speaker 2: because you know, put them easily into the tournament. Uh,
Speaker 2: it's been impressive. It's turn the heads of a lot
Speaker 2: of people, and uh they're going to have probably their
Speaker 2: their toughest task at the night or you know this
Speaker 2: this run tonight in terms of going you know to
Speaker 2: Iowa State on senior Night, an Iowa State team that's
Speaker 2: finally fully healthy after uh some injuries and roster issues
Speaker 2: over the past you know, a month and a half,
Speaker 2: and so it's gonna be a really tough tough game
Speaker 2: for BYU. But I said, they're playing with house money,
Speaker 2: and so even making this game competitive I think would
Speaker 2: still step them on a course. For you know, big
Speaker 2: expectations in the NCAA Tournament.
Speaker 1: I always stayed an eight point five point favorite. I
Speaker 1: thought that line was rather large. They had kind of
Speaker 1: a weird run where they lost a random game on
Speaker 1: the road to Oklahoma State. They got got by Houston,
Speaker 1: but Houston's awesome. They just smoked Arizona and you know,
Speaker 1: they went through the stretch three straight ls Arizona, k State,
Speaker 1: Kansas and lost to West Virginia, as we already outlined.
Speaker 1: So tell us about the Cyclones. What's b YU up
Speaker 1: against in a tough place to play Ames Iowa tonight.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the Cyclones, I mean, they've just been on
Speaker 2: this upward trajectory ever since TJ Osselberger took over as
Speaker 2: the head coach four years ago. And you know, his
Speaker 2: expertise has been on the defensive end. Last year they
Speaker 2: had the top defense in the country. They had the
Speaker 2: fifty second best offense. I curely have the ninth best
Speaker 2: defense in the country and the twenty first best offense.
Speaker 2: It's easily his best offense since it has been in
Speaker 2: Arizona State. Like the complete package is coming around and
Speaker 2: he's been one of those coaches that's kind of magically
Speaker 2: figured out how to retain players. They're thirty fifth in
Speaker 2: the country in terms of the continuity of minutes from
Speaker 2: last season, so they got guys back from last year
Speaker 2: as a very experienced team. And even though they still
Speaker 2: you know, they're calling card is still in the defensive end,
Speaker 2: they can now score and it's a little bit more
Speaker 2: of a you know, modern basketball offense in terms of
Speaker 2: being able to make some shots from distance. They're not
Speaker 2: a you know, a team that shoots a lot of threes,
Speaker 2: but they are ninety third in the country in terms
Speaker 2: of the number of threes they make, and so the
Speaker 2: offense is more of a well rounded pack is not
Speaker 2: necessarily led by any sort of stars or anything like that.
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of like solid guys who don't given
Speaker 2: a night can you know, to beat the star. But
Speaker 2: for the most part, it's you know, five to seven
Speaker 2: guys who are willing to share and you know, kind
Speaker 2: of more of an average role and that's turned out
Speaker 2: to be a very effective formula for them.
Speaker 1: Where do you see this game tonight and aims kind
Speaker 1: of hinging like what does BYU need to do well
Speaker 1: in order based off of what you know about both
Speaker 1: these two teams in order to pull off, which according
Speaker 1: to Vegas, would be a pretty sizable upset.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, one thing that Iowa State does well
Speaker 2: and really gets them going is forces turnovers. And it's
Speaker 2: not nearly, not necessarily a Byu specialty to avoid them.
Speaker 2: I mean we've talked, you know, over the course of
Speaker 2: the year about Diego or demon and obviously his role
Speaker 2: in the offense. He handles the ball a lot, He
Speaker 2: triggers the offense his passing instincts in his court vision.
Speaker 2: His reads are i'd say above average, certainly above average
Speaker 2: for a person of his age, but sometimes he has
Speaker 2: trouble executing on those reads. And and you know, he
Speaker 2: commits a fair amount of turnovers, and it's can be
Speaker 2: important for by you to limit those tonight. If you
Speaker 2: can force Iowa State play in the half court, you
Speaker 2: know you're gonna have a much better chance of limiting
Speaker 2: what they do offensively, and obviously limning those turnovers will
Speaker 2: you know, obviously lead to more shots for Uyu. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's really probably the story of the night is can
Speaker 2: b Yu get up as many shots as Iowa State
Speaker 2: they can do that, it'll be an interesting game. You know,
Speaker 2: Bio states looking at you know, ten or fifteen more
Speaker 2: fieldgal attempts in the box score. By the time the
Speaker 2: night is over, it's going to be a real struggle.
Speaker 2: So I'd say, you know, watch watch Diegor and see,
Speaker 2: you know, if he can limit the turnovers tonight by
Speaker 2: you could could hang around here.
Speaker 1: Let me revisit something we talked about a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and I think at the time Ken your
Speaker 1: answer was Arizona. I've got Kenpalm dot com up, of course,
Speaker 1: proud subscriber for a number of years. And the second
Speaker 1: highest rated Big Twelve team you have now is Tech
Speaker 1: Texas Tech. If I asked you who the second best
Speaker 1: team in the Big twelve is right now, is it
Speaker 1: Texas Tech or is it somebody else?
Speaker 2: It's probably Texas Tech. I mean, it's hard to really
Speaker 2: deny what they've done. You know, it's a team that
Speaker 2: itself has been somewhat surprising. Uh. They were actually ranked
Speaker 2: fourteenth in my pre season ratings, but we've unrated in
Speaker 2: the THEA people to start the season, so to some extent,
Speaker 2: they've been surprising. But you know they've they've answered, you know,
Speaker 2: all the questions pretty much over the course of the season.
Speaker 2: Obviously their most recent game. You know, they go to
Speaker 2: Kansas and get a victory, and I know everybody seen
Speaker 2: in Kansas, but Kansas is still a pretty decent team,
Speaker 2: especially at home, and for Texas Tech to go in
Speaker 2: there and get a win, you know, says a lot.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: They themselves had some issues with with injuries in terms
Speaker 2: of chance McMillan and Darian Williams, a couple of their
Speaker 2: starters being out, but they got them all back for
Speaker 2: the Kansas game, and so they do look extremely tough.
Speaker 2: I mean, I still like Arizona. I like what they
Speaker 2: do as well, but Texas Tech is a very tough team,
Speaker 2: and I think as we've seen the bigger stample size
Speaker 2: this year, uh, it's harder to de I they're legitimate
Speaker 2: claim to being the second best team.
Speaker 3: In the league.
Speaker 1: I'll ask a similar question, but I'll ask it differently,
Speaker 1: non non Houston Big twelve basketball team built to make
Speaker 1: an NCAA tournament run.
Speaker 3: Who's that.
Speaker 2: I'd go with Arizona, I guess is the next best choice,
Speaker 2: just because I prefer teams that are a little better offense. So,
Speaker 2: I mean, we talked about Iowa State and they've obviously
Speaker 2: they've improved their offense, but Arizona States needs to be
Speaker 2: more built around their offense, so potentially a better chance
Speaker 2: for a deeper run. But we're kind of splitting hairs here.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I think, well, Arizona and Iowa
Speaker 2: State are are teams that could could go far. And
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I think it's an outside shot
Speaker 2: that b Y you could be that team as well,
Speaker 2: just given the fact that you know their offense can
Speaker 2: be very explosive, and that upside I think is kind
Speaker 2: of intriguing. Although there's obviously a extremely long history of
Speaker 2: you know, you not making deep tournament runs that would
Speaker 2: would maybe cause you to have some reluctance to have
Speaker 2: him go deep in.
Speaker 1: Your bracket, and that's where I wanted to go next.
Speaker 1: Are you more confident? Like Byu was a six seed
Speaker 1: last year? I think it was the day day Grant
Speaker 1: kid in Ducane.
Speaker 3: That got him round one.
Speaker 1: Jackson Robinson was like the only player making shots. But
Speaker 1: I thought Byu was built for something somewhat exciting last year.
Speaker 1: Do you think Kevin's team is better because right now
Speaker 1: Lenardi has them as an eight seed.
Speaker 3: They were six seed last year.
Speaker 1: Is this team built for either a better Big twelve
Speaker 1: tournament run or an NCAA tournament run in your mind, Ken.
Speaker 2: Well, they're probably more like a Big twelve tournament run
Speaker 2: is a little more likely, just because there's you know,
Speaker 2: it's just such a quick event and you know, you're
Speaker 2: almost just there's not a lot of scouting, and he
Speaker 2: was kind of reacting to what you know over the
Speaker 2: course of the season, and so I think that favors
Speaker 2: BIU more than the situation where there might be more
Speaker 2: detailed scouting in a few days prepare for a team
Speaker 2: and and kind of limit what YU does offensively and
Speaker 2: try to make them do things are not comfortable with.
Speaker 2: And certainly the memories of last year, I mean, they
Speaker 2: just linger, you know, like they were. They weren't just
Speaker 2: a sixth seed. They were they were one of the
Speaker 2: biggest favorites as a sixth seed in their first game
Speaker 2: and in tournament history. And the game wasn't competitive like
Speaker 2: it was. There was almost never a time in that
Speaker 2: game where you thought you why he was going to win.
Speaker 2: So that's a little concerning, and I don't I think
Speaker 2: this team might be marginally better than last year's team,
Speaker 2: but I don't know that it's like that much different.
Speaker 2: So so that is the concern. Like clearly, like there's
Speaker 2: some things you like, Like you like the shooting, you
Speaker 2: like the fact that their experience and they're an older team,
Speaker 2: and you think all those things would lead towards success.
Speaker 2: I would also say you did not want to be
Speaker 2: on the eight or nine line in this year's tournament.
Speaker 2: I mean, the one seed this year are as good
Speaker 2: as they've ever been, you know, certainly in the last
Speaker 2: fifteen twenty years. So that's an issue too. Like you
Speaker 2: get you get past that first game, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, you're you know, facing historically like dominant Auburn
Speaker 2: or Duke or Houston. Like that's that's no pointo either.
Speaker 3: Speaking of teams on the eight or nine line.
Speaker 1: One with this the Utah State Aggies according to the
Speaker 1: bracketology number nine right now according to Lenardi, you have
Speaker 1: them at fifty six in the Ken Palm. And you know,
Speaker 1: as we've talked about that that basketball ethos up there,
Speaker 1: that basketball community up there. Man, they you know, coaches
Speaker 1: roll in and they seem to win. And I'm not
Speaker 1: taking anything away from any of them, because every year
Speaker 1: is different.
Speaker 3: But tell me your thoughts on year one. Jared Calhoun
Speaker 3: up and Logan.
Speaker 2: Well, we oh, yeah, I mean there's yeah, there's nothing
Speaker 2: to take away from what he's done up there and
Speaker 2: the season that they've had. I mean, it's been outstanding.
Speaker 2: You know, Obviously losing the last couple of games is
Speaker 2: taking a little bit of shine off of that, especially
Speaker 2: the way they lost Colorado State really just not being
Speaker 2: competitive and to a certain extent, the boy they speaking
Speaker 2: was that way as well. I mean, it's a team
Speaker 2: this year. I mean record aside, like the record has
Speaker 2: been great, but record aside, like their metrics have always
Speaker 2: kind of lagged behind their record and hinted at maybe
Speaker 2: some future struggles that you know, some of these other
Speaker 2: Mountain West teams might not experience, you know, down the stretch,
Speaker 2: and we're starting to see that, you know, they are
Speaker 2: pretty safe for the tournament, and I think, you know,
Speaker 2: big picture, like, you you know, rewind things back to
Speaker 2: mid October and a tournament bid is an excellent season.
Speaker 2: I mean, you just got to you know, anytime a
Speaker 2: first year coach can come into this situation and almost
Speaker 2: completely turned over the roster, it wasn't one hundred percent
Speaker 2: turnover like it was last year under Danny Sprinkle, but
Speaker 2: just under the circumstances, a great season for the Aggies.
Speaker 2: But the overall metrics are as I said, lagging, and
Speaker 2: you know, hopes of a deeper tournament run or I
Speaker 2: don't know if they non existent. Anybody can do it almost,
Speaker 2: but only a lot less likely than they are for BYU.
Speaker 3: It is March, Ken, which means two things.
Speaker 1: My birthday, which I know you'll remember, and then of
Speaker 1: course college basketball. A lot of us have our attention
Speaker 1: on brackets and such, and you are the guy for this.
Speaker 3: Where can people go get their work is their.
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