Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to the Paul Junior Podcast and I'll be
talking with Mike and Vin today.
Speaker 2: All right, So Vin, good having you on the show today.
Speaker 3: Cue the music, you bang?
Speaker 4: All right. I had to travel really far to get here.
You did. This is great.
Speaker 1: We're on location at Vin's shop, and uh, man, I'm
excited to be here. The fan base Vin has wanted
you on here, bro Like since my first podcast. They've
been screaming Vin, and I know how busy you are here,
and we figured, hey, what the heck will come out
to you with our trailer and everything. I put this
together last night at eight o'clock, so I hope it
looks halfway decent.
Speaker 4: But it looks great. Man. This is the best case
scenario for me too, just because you know you're busy.
I am, I'm busy. I get crazy. What are you
busy with work? Yeah? Yeah? And then just you know,
I just moved my daughter Vanessa into college. Yeah, her
senior year. So how is that? It was good? You
know the first year is hard? Yeah, you know that's rough.
You know you leave there in tears?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, because you're parting ways and a sense
Yeah she's young then you know, now she's she's twenty two. Yeah,
you know, so it's not so bad. Is this last year?
Speaker 4: Well she wants to go to grad school, but we'll
see what happens. She's going for chemistry, so, you know,
I wanted to start in the field, but we'll see.
Speaker 1: And what about the other kids. I hear some of
them are working here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Ava Bello worked here since she was twelve. She just left.
She actually works for NUB now, okay, for the last
couple of years. She loves it. What does NUB have
her painting over there? He does. Yeah, they do a
lot of helmets and stuff like that. Huh huh. So
uh yeah, she works over there. She loves it. She's
always been very artistic. And she's also going to Capri,
which is kind of like a beauty school type of thing. Okay, Yeah,
and Ava goes locally to college at ACCE. You got
working around here a little bit.
Speaker 1: No college for Vince yet, huh no college, he's not
there quite Yeah fifteen.
Speaker 4: Wow, I can't believe he's fifteen.
Speaker 3: Dude, I know, I know.
Speaker 4: So and Ava works here too in between core man. Yeah,
so great. There's nothing better in having your family around you. Yeah,
you love it. I love it.
Speaker 2: It didn't work for us, no, I know, listen, I
worked my dad.
Speaker 4: I remember the turmoil. But I get along good with
the kids, and you know, you got to submit a
little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, you think you're like your dad.
Speaker 4: No with the kids. With the kids, No, no, what
you're more chill. I'm way more. You're way more. My
father he was iron fist. Yeah. Yeah, he was tough.
He was he was old school, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I write the page highway or the highway. It's that generation, dude.
It was.
Speaker 1: It's like my father, very similar, different people, similar person
out you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's that old school, real like tough way of
tough love.
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm very passive as a boss, even even with all
my guys. You know, I'm just not that I'm passive.
I appreciate him. I could not run his business without them. Yeah.
So when they need time or anything like that, I'll
schedule around it.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, right, you make it work for him because
they're good. Because it's hard to find good people. Oh
it's so hard, especially today, impossible.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: And I got such a good crew, and I got
Clayton Son, Chase here. He's seventeen.
Speaker 3: That's great.
Speaker 4: He's such a good kid. And you know they need
to go. They go away a lot schedule around it. Yeah,
you figure it out.
Speaker 3: Boy.
Speaker 1: They hated when we went away back in the day.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 1: I was just telling a story about how, like I
worked all the time, and I remember going up to
Lake George with like Mark, you know, up at Mark's place. Dude,
my father would be finding the phone number to call
the landline up there to freak out on me, you know,
for one Saturday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for one Saturday.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 4: It's great, it's different, it's crazy, you know. And I
got my uh my cousin, Lisa works in the office.
She's been with me since thirteen, and she's just awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. It's good to have people in the
office too. She runs she basically runs my company books everything.
Speaker 4: Really, she does all that stuff that listen. I'm a
I'm a ditch digger.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, right right, labor right, dude, like, do
all the numbers out there, everything important.
Speaker 4: Exactly, take care of good.
Speaker 3: It's good man.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So anyway, Hey, Mikey, Hey, buddy is sexy ditch digger.
Speaker 1: He is sexy man uniform handsome. I know, yeah, you know.
He wore long pants for us today.
Speaker 3: Mit, he did. Well, he's not hot.
Speaker 4: It's not hot. That's why I warmed. I was just
telling him, it's the first day I wore long pants
in weeks. It's been crazy like.
Speaker 2: It's for the occasion too, it is, man, he got
to put his suit on.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I actually rode a scoot in this morning, he did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was cold.
Speaker 4: It was cold. Yeah, it's been so warm in the
mornings and I'm always like, why didn't I write you
froze your butt off?
Speaker 3: Dude?
Speaker 4: This morning I picked all breaking day to bring the Scoogan.
Speaker 3: It was off those Italian meatballs of years.
Speaker 4: Right, it's been a long time since we all sat
down again.
Speaker 1: I got, man, like, what at least ten years?
Speaker 4: Still, the last time I filmed with you guys was
twenty twelve, the Biker build off. Wow, it was December
two thousand, right, and now it's twenty five.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's a long time ago.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean over a decade. I wouldn't think in
terms of that, but you're right. And then when the
show came back, you were busy here because I called
you and I was like, hey, we're doing the show
and you're like, I'm not. I'm like, okay, I know
I was crazy. I'm still crazy, I know. But that's
good dude. It is yeah, because you're making your do,
making your living.
Speaker 3: I know what, do you know?
Speaker 4: It's all it is. And I got great customers. You
know what it is too. No one's doing this stuff
no more. No one wants to really go to the
dealerships or the mavises, and all the local guys around
here retire and no one's taking over their businesses. Yeah,
and you know it.
Speaker 1: And you know what, hey, really there's us in quality.
Speaker 4: That's really it. Yeah, there's no no one left.
Speaker 3: That's good for you, it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know what too, Vin, you're like an old
school mechanic, dude. You're like, people love you. You got
like these customers, women, men.
Speaker 3: Women go crazy with young people.
Speaker 2: I've seen women come here to get their keys and
Vinn's got their keys down short.
Speaker 3: They reached deep down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Michael, on this multiple occasions twelve else you're gonna
have to edit.
Speaker 3: This is trying to get your wife. Oh yeah for.
Speaker 1: You, Oh jeesus, well, we've been missing this.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's been that long. Huh man, that's crazy, man.
I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: I can't believe it because we did so many years
of television together. I just think it, Like, think about it.
We did like we did ten years and it was
like thirty years of time.
Speaker 3: Right, it was.
Speaker 4: We were just there always, always, We did everything. We
went everywhere together, everything all the time.
Speaker 1: You guys used to get naked in your hotel room again.
Oh yeah, he tells his story. Tell the story and
see ifvn agrees with it. You guys were playing saga
up in their hotel room. Nobody had to share a
hotel room, but these two always hotel room.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And they both smoked cigarettes at the time. And I
walked into the room to play saga with them, and
they they're both like butt naked.
Speaker 1: Were Yeah, the chest and back hand together, he said.
We were flicking ashes in each other's chest.
Speaker 2: Yes, I keep telling it. I keep telling it differently.
We were smoking cigarettes cigarettes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had fun, though we didn't.
Speaker 1: We were chilling probably after a long day, right, we're
wind down, you know.
Speaker 3: That stuff, long day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can tell them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you.
Speaker 4: Remember the board story.
Speaker 3: I don't I'll be quiet.
Speaker 4: So uh yeah, man.
Speaker 1: And then I was thinking, you know, with with coming
out here and getting this whole thing set up, I
was thinking about, like, well, really going way back, like
to the early days, like when we first started working together.
And then I and then I remembered like where we
really first started working together was on the airplane.
Speaker 4: The model airplane. Was telling that story the other day
and it occurred to me.
Speaker 1: Then we had this like cause I watched like the
first few episodes, Bro, it's just me and you. Other
people are doing stuff, but we're doing like we're doing
all the fab and all the creative on all the
first bikes. Other people are coming in. I'm not saying
it was just me, no, no, of course, but it
was like eighty percent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it really was.
Speaker 1: And it just worked out that way because that that
was the demand we had on us at the time
the show was cranking. We had a nice little fancy
water jet that you know, if I had an idea,
you were able to cut the stuff out. I didn't
want to know about that. I just wanted to keep
doing the creative, you know.
Speaker 4: And we made it happen. Man, We made it. We did.
And just like all that whole first season was really
It wasn't until after when Rick came in, you know,
we started getting more help and stuff. But that first season,
all the way up through Man like the Miller Bike,
the Commanchi oh bro.
Speaker 1: I keep thinking about the Comanche for some reason, that
stands out the most.
Speaker 4: Well, remember we were under the gun or no, we
flew we were down and Myrtle, we flew back to
finish the assembly and it was just me and you.
Oh that we got that thing running that night. We
never checked anything over because we were so under the gun.
Threw it in the trailer, went down there. That's when
we had that problem.
Speaker 2: I remember you guys saying you barely had time for dinner.
Speaker 3: Before you left.
Speaker 1: It's so funny because you remember that, and now that
you're saying it to me, I remember it.
Speaker 4: But we were like in a dark shop with just
film creww Yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: And then I just posted that whole thing and you
were freaking out on the dude in the trailer.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I saw it. I remember that where we
were flying in the helicopter.
Speaker 1: And the motor went and run and they were like
working on it and the dude's hitting it and things
like I cannot stress to you how much you cannot
do that.
Speaker 4: Well, that was killing me too, because I'm not used
to letting somebody else work on something, and I had
to sit there and watch him do that, you know
what I mean? Yeah, right, I knew what the problem was.
And we had to get a guy with a torch
because that scavenger pump went. Man, we couldn't get the
gear off. And Joe was there. I remember, crazy Joe.
Joe got it time he did.
Speaker 3: He did, nice guy he did.
Speaker 4: He celebrated for like a week after. I literally got
out of that trailer and jumped in a helicopter.
Speaker 1: That's right, remember that, hey? And then you know what's
so crazy? When I rode that thing up there. We
didn't really proof it out because everyone was in a panic,
and we flew in in a helicopter, right, and so
we land and I get on the bike fires up.
I'm like, dude, you couldn't make this up. If you
watch it, you'd be like, there's no edit, it's real.
Speaker 4: It was perfect.
Speaker 1: I mean, of course they do editing, but it was
not edited to the amount of time that played out
was exact right, it was.
Speaker 4: And then I get on that thing, Rev rev, and
you know that's an awkward bike, dude. The handlebars are
like you're flying away.
Speaker 1: I don't even know, right, And uh, I remember going
up that ramp, dude, it was super It was like
like it was straight up a wall, right. And I
got to the top of the platform and realized the
platform was almost the same size as the motor side
and they.
Speaker 4: Had all this netting down.
Speaker 1: Couldn't make it look military with all these like leaves
woven into it. And I jumped up there because I
had to get up the ramp. And when I got
up top, I just grabbed the front brake and lid
on the mesh until my tire was like almost half
off the end of the whole platform, and then I
just reved it and they blew that air and my shirt.
Speaker 4: It was it was like, yeah, it was like skin
in my teeth, especially for that time. I mean there's
a lot of crazy stuff now, that was for that time.
That was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was early days. We were like experienced, but
not quite. We only had a couple of those. It
was a new thing and it wasn't like ten years later,
you know.
Speaker 4: And it wasn't only a couple of shows before that
where we really started getting really famous. I mean at
that time for Comanche, I mean it blew up.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think about it too, like you
coming to work for us, and I remember being like, man,
we were starting to get busy, you know, we were
just starting to get busy, and I knew you were,
like I think you were working with Clayton at the
time or something like that, and we needed someone. And
I knew from our days of building model airplanes, which
is such a crazy thing because I can't even fly
crash those things in a heartbeat, you know, just doing
all the cool work on them, and we were like
customizing not motorcycles, but those, and so I felt like
when it came time for you to come to work,
when I came and asked you, I was like, I
think this could work.
Speaker 4: Obviously.
Speaker 1: I knew you from when you were young the sledge shop.
You know, you were a mechanic already, yeah, and but
I knew we needed that, you know, And when you
think about it, you weren't even really a fabricator when
you came to work for.
Speaker 4: I mean I've done some little but not like not
tig welding, and.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, grinding water jet, all that
stuff you really learned like on the show. Pretty much
on the show you started really honing that skill set. Yeah,
and then it gave you an opportunity to run water jet,
to learn seeing city.
Speaker 4: I mean, just a lot of stuff, right, yeah, I
mean that's that's definitely one of my biggest qualities is
I'm very good at learning on a fly. Yes, you
know so, yeah, yeah, you pick up fast.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It worked well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is good.
Speaker 1: We would work together, good man, and going back and
you and Mikey work together.
Speaker 3: I look old now because their beards are gray.
Speaker 4: I know, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 3: I know, that's pretty funny. Yeah, we all worked well together.
Speaker 4: We're working well together right now.
Speaker 3: Gosh, man, I know we did.
Speaker 4: We had some good times, man, I mean listen, we
worked our butts off. Yeah. You know, people don't understand
that because not only are you working whatever seventy eighty
hours some week, I know, then you have the filming
aspect of it too. It's not like you're just holding
up the cameras. You move some parts around it and
you sit down in the green room. I agree, you know, yeah,
and I see they put your cameras around. You're trying
to get stuff done. Oh yeah, dude.
Speaker 1: In the hours were endless. There was no time for anything.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 1: We were working our butts off, and I feel like
when you think back to that time period, you know,
the show started taking off, I think people thought like
you think about people on television, like it's just like
they're only doing like a couple hours and then going
home and drinking tea or something.
Speaker 4: And we were like killing our set out at that
time too. I was starting a family, you know. Yeah,
remember during the Miller Bike Vanessa was born.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 4: Remember that. When do you remember that episode where I
called you to tell you we had a girl and
my next Tell number was on and everybody was calling you.
I was living in walk Hill at the time and
we didn't have good service and we were watching that
episode that night and it was like pretty an episode air,
and all of a sudden, my phone started. I didn't
pick up on it at the time, and my phone
start like it was going nuts, and I'm like, I
just shut it off. The next morning, I turned it
on and it was still going nuts. It did that
for like a year.
Speaker 1: Really. Yeah, you know, it's so funny too, because that
tells you how early we were in the game, because
that doesn't happen anymore. Right, you never see these Housewives
phone numbers. Somebody's head would roll, you know.
Speaker 4: But they did edit it for the reruns. Oh, that's right,
they did. You're like, dude, you got to edit that. Well.
The thing was too, he never had me programmed in
his phone at my number, so when I did you
it didn't come up Vinnie Cell or anything like that,
and it just came up whatever the next two way
number was. It was like number number dot dot number.
It was. Yeah, that was That was funny. That was crazy.
There's a lot of crazy stuff in the beginning because
we were all we were all learning as we went.
Speaker 1: We were man, yeah, we were. We were just learning
because it.
Speaker 4: Was a new thing. Even it wasn't like we were
trying to be something that somebody already was and you
kind of got, you know, a dialogue to follow. There
was nothing to follow. There was nothing to follow.
Speaker 1: We were just the ogs and we had no idea.
Speaker 4: We weren't even trying to be the only other really
reality out there at the time, was I think like Survivor,
and that was totally different. Yeah, I agree, man.
Speaker 3: And the Osbourne's.
Speaker 4: Were they out when we first they were out a
month before us. Really I didn't think so.
Speaker 3: And it different show, different type of show.
Speaker 4: It was a different show.
Speaker 3: It was Genrey was so big, man.
Speaker 1: He came on the scene a monster, you know, he
was just everybody. He was just big, thirty year his
mouth and had it really following.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So I would say for all intentsive purposes, certainly, our
show was its own groundbreaking, reality, never before seen type thing.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, man, you know it's good stuff.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you. The older I get, man, the more
I appreciate it all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know, at different times and stages in
your life, it's it could be great and then a
burden and then frustrating and then like all these phases.
But ultimately what you come back to is, no matter
what it was, you appreciate it because you get older
and you're like, it was a good journey. It's the journey.
Speaker 4: It is the journey. Bad stuff's good. Yeah, and think
about what we got to do. You think about what
we got to do.
Speaker 1: Because of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just that's unfathomable to me. I still I
still think about it. And you know what's so great
about that?
Speaker 1: Me and you were the same person in the sense
that we're both from Valley Satchel, we both are from Montgomery,
we have similar fathers, you know, mechanic all that, and
so I feel, no, no what Michael Michael's from. Of
course you might have to switch with Vin. I think
maybe I'm sorry, buddy, No go on, Vin?
Speaker 3: Sorry sorry? Sorry?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Well, the point is, no one would ever
think that our success would have been what it was
if you went back even a year before, right, I
mean before the show came. Who would have ever known
that we would have had like this type of You.
Speaker 4: Were a welder. I was a motorhead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that's all.
Speaker 4: That's everything about me was motorhead. Everything about you was
working at the welding shop.
Speaker 2: Yep, you know, Mike was a deadbeat welding shop employee
work there. Where were you when the show started?
Speaker 3: I was there.
Speaker 4: I was working in the steel shop.
Speaker 3: And you hated it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I hated that was a burden to that business. You know,
no harm, no foul roosters into it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Born in an occupage you absolutely hate, but you
liked it, right me?
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 3: Do you like making railings and.
Speaker 1: Ship I did, I really did, because I feel like
it'd scratched an itch for me At the time I
needed to build stuff.
Speaker 4: My mind was like I had. I didn't like.
Speaker 1: The creative wasn't like a thing back then other than
you're building stuff. There's creativity, but not yeah, not like
the wide open kind of thing you know, where you're like,
do you just come up with great unusual ideas?
Speaker 3: So you see like the.
Speaker 2: Characters at the steel shop. Oh, there's nothing but car
nothing with characters. Because who does a non union iron work.
You gotta be out of your mind?
Speaker 4: Yeah, guy's name Conrad.
Speaker 3: You got to be totally rejected. But everybody else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also a screw loose because you could do
anything else non you and it'd be like easier.
Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd imagine anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing's easy about the steel business, that's for sure.
Speaker 3: No way.
Speaker 1: But you know, mechanic work sucks too. I mean it's good,
but you're on the concrete all day.
Speaker 4: You know, you're standing all day the heat. There's no
ac in here. You know, it's just it is. But
you know what. You know, some of the happiest people
in the world come home dirty. Oh yeah, for sure,
and you feel accomplished. And I have. I'll be honest
with you. I don't know how I got it. I
have the best customers. Yeah, I have such a relationship
with all my customers. I mean, they just dropped the
car off, they leave it, I leave the keys in it.
Speaker 1: They come back and pay, and they're not going any windy.
Speaker 2: Can do any work on the car. Just run it
through the bill right, dust off the passenger side seat.
Chase brings it around here you go, man, Chase six
hundred bucks.
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, Oh that is funny. This guy. He's always
messing with poor Chase.
Speaker 4: I am yeah, he needs it, though, I think, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to poison his ear against he poison,
but he took it literal. He's like, you want to poison.
Speaker 3: Put poison in my ears? Trying to kill him? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was kids.
Speaker 4: So all right, So let's talk about some early day stuff.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I mean, geez, almost ten years of American chop. Well,
how long were you on the show for because you
left before.
Speaker 4: October of o two. I started that was right after
the Cody project. Okay, that ended, and you guys weren't
intended on filming again.
Speaker 1: Oh and then he came back and said they wanted thought.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you told me we're getting busy. We have all
these production bikes. I could really use you there, you know.
And obviously we made it happen.
Speaker 1: And some were the production bikes that we needed you
for at the time, right, not necessarily the show.
Speaker 4: It came out, it wasn't for the show, because yeah,
and I remember I remember the day they came in
there and said that we got a thirteen part series. Yeah,
and that was like crazy, and we're like, man, And
then you came up with a black widow and that
was it, man, and rest is history.
Speaker 2: I remember her bike looks good. I remember talking to
the producer before they hired you. You know, they said, yeah, absolutely,
no Italians, They're just they're disgusting people. And you made
it through anyways, because you you made it through the
Italian You noticed you were the only Italian.
Speaker 4: You got Italian. We're more than half Italian, Mike, what
are you talking about?
Speaker 3: What are you talking about? You just look more Italian.
Speaker 4: Got the name. It looked like I don't know, Mikey, Pauli,
Vinnie pretty Italian about it. But yeah, man, and then
when that happened, Man, I mean, what do we do?
Let's what's the lineup? It was Black Widow, trim SPA,
then it was fire Bike. Yeah, what was after fire Bike?
Was it wating to.
Speaker 2: Be?
Speaker 3: Was it? It's all coming back?
Speaker 4: And there was Miller? Oh, snap On was in?
Speaker 3: There was number was number one? Was number two?
Speaker 4: Rick started there on snap On?
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was number two seasons?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay, that makes sense. But I'm trying to
think how many Well it was two episodes per bike
we did, that's right.
Speaker 1: The first season was too even maybe the second season yeah,
I think even a second it was like two one
hours one hour episode. That was great too, because you
really got so much common.
Speaker 3: A great story about how I met Rick. All right,
never mind, I don't know if we want to hear that.
Speaker 4: What's that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I had I did?
Speaker 1: I had Rick on the podcast. He was great, wasn't
he more?
Speaker 3: It's a beauty.
Speaker 2: What a nice guy man, and his wife's a really
sweet lady. They make moonshine.
Speaker 1: Together, yeah yeah, yeah, well yeah, they have like a
distillery out there. Hey, check this out. So I was
thinking maybe I could take this whole rig and go
to his farm because he's got like all these outbuildings.
Speaker 4: He's making leg liquor. We can get tuned up. Listen,
you got this setup. I mean, why couldn't you? Right?
It's limitless now, isn't this nice?
Speaker 3: This is very nice.
Speaker 4: You're right.
Speaker 2: You're going right into the weather with it too. Next
three months are going to be perfect with this thing.
Maybe even four, you know, if you wander south down
to Maryland or something. Yeah, start doing interviews with uh,
you know people in DC. You know, politician Chuck Schumer
from them, Chuck Schumer in here.
Speaker 4: No, I should go tru case, man, I go out
to Florida, you know, set up camp at the This.
Speaker 2: Is a great idea. People don't want to go anywhere.
I know, I don't want to go anywhere for anything.
They'll go into their driveway case, they'll go to the
fuck out there. Yeah, and they'll go on your show
case in Yeah. I know, man, you had to build
this trailer to the venom. I should have pulled that ship, man,
I had to. I've had to lug my my piece
of ship down to his shop like nineteen times.
Speaker 3: Ready, I guess you just got to be persistent, right, Yeah,
that's it. But this is really sweet.
Speaker 1: This is like plus we ran out of podcast, so
we said, all right, we've got to load this sucker
up and get down there.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Nate's happy to get away from all the
women in his life, right Nate, no comment.
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, So you guys you really had a good relationship.
I mean, you know, we talked about me and you
a little bit, but.
Speaker 4: You guys, it's like they paired you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were cast like the monkeys.
Speaker 3: Yeah oh yeah, yeah. You were like Peter Tork and
I was like Mickey something or other Mickey Rourke. Yeah.
I was really good looking in those days.
Speaker 4: But no, listen, I just think we got me and
Mikey kind of clicked pretty good.
Speaker 2: We didn't, yeh and three bottles of jack, two nights
at a tattoo parlor, one long kiss, good.
Speaker 4: Night, right, remember matching tattoos.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Were you guys hanging out before the show at all?
Speaker 4: We did. There was a times you came over to
my father's golf course at night. Remember we said the
old Chinese restaurant.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that place was crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I got some pictures of you in there, man, pictures, full.
Speaker 3: Head of hair, full head of hair. Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: He had some golden locks, golden locks. His son has
the hair I had. And when I see him, I
get angry, he too, get hold back. I get so
pissed off.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But like the Mikey bike, we worked, you know, together
with on a decent amount. But then when we did
the Mikey Vinnie bike, that was I had so much
fun with you on that. We want to hear something
funny too. Not to get off that subject, but none
of my kids have ever watched the show. Yeah, me too,
none of my kids.
Speaker 2: We wound up going out a lot too during bike
events we did. Yeah, so we'd go out a lot. Yeah,
you know, but none of my bond with somebody when
you're fucking loaded. I mean he was pretty well controlled.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was not a big drinker.
Speaker 3: I was doing the jack.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And uh but anyway, my daughter Eva, while she's working
here for a while, she went on a spreathe on
HBO Max.
Speaker 1: Is the show. Yeah yeah, so she started putting it
on every day, playing it here, playing and you heard
yourself in the backgroun.
Speaker 4: I would catch things and I'd be like, I remember that,
you know.
Speaker 3: You know, dude, I forgetsport you.
Speaker 4: It does, it does. And she's only washed up to
I think season three. But like those older ones, they're
really the ones I want to see.
Speaker 3: It was the one where.
Speaker 4: Cody was going to what is it a A m R? Yeah? Yeah,
and where I had him in the face with the pie.
Remember that, dude. We were brutal back then, I know,
you with your fireworks, oh man, firing.
Speaker 1: Him out of that air gun, the little that big
long tube air thing, just being we'd be sure those.
Speaker 4: Things were literally blowing up in Cody's face.
Speaker 3: That's the last to screw with the young guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Actually, Cody's truck's here right now. I'm working.
Oh yeah, he's he's such a good guy. Man. I
love that kid.
Speaker 1: He's a good kid.
Speaker 4: We still hang out. Yeah, yeah, he I'll tell you, man,
I would like to have him on. I should have
told him about this. We probably could have figured something out.
Speaker 2: I know because I ran into him at a gas station.
He bought a farm, he did. Yeah, he's a farmer now.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's not up there. He built that beautiful
house on Drexel yea. Then he ended up selling it
and he's got a he's got a big farm yeah
on Walco Road. Yeah, that's awesome. Really, I don't know
if it's that much. But he also bought more next
to it. So, and it's right on the Walco River. Really,
it's gorgeous. Where is this in Montgomery and walk on Walco.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, stretches of river out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can see it from the road. I'm probably
knowing it from to a weight going towards Walk Hill.
Yeah all right, if you looked to the left, you
could see it.
Speaker 4: People don't want to hear that. Yeah, we're gonna send coordinates.
Yeah no, but anyway, Yeah no, he's redoing the original farmhouse.
I was in there the other day. Yeah, man, they're
restoring the job. Yeah really they had the thing basically
hanging redo in the foundation everything. Oh yeah yeah yeah, wow,
good for that. He's a hard worker, you know. He
works for Central Hudson and Power Company and he has
his own escavating business. Yeah. Yeah, he's just he's a
great guy. Great, he was I'll tell you, man, he
was killing it for me. He was a one man show.
Speaker 1: He did the water jet, he could well, he could assemble,
he could wire, he could fabricate everything.
Speaker 4: And I only needed him. He replaced like five guys
and we were killing it. We were doing good.
Speaker 1: And then he came to me one day and he goes,
he goes, I got I got to talk to you.
So we sit down in my office and he goes,
I got this opportunity and if if I don't take it,
I'm never going to forgive myself right away. I'm like, dude, Like, dude,
if you were like skydiving, whatever you're doing, go after
setting it up like.
Speaker 4: That, you know. And I said, listen, man, go do it.
Because his dad got him the job, and it's a
good job.
Speaker 1: And you know, it was a start long term because look,
the show went away and things slowed down, and you know,
he probably would end up there actually. But now he's
got all that time in and it's afforded him all
the I mean, dude, I hear about his overtime. You know,
he's like cranking overtime all the time.
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, yeah, I know, So yeah, he does
he does good. That's central Hudson and I love him. Yeah,
he's such a good shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know when he first came to work for us,
he was like our first little dude. He was like,
I don't know, he was there, he was, he was fourteen.
He came there, guy there from the show. I was going,
I was getting my haircut at his mom's place. And
then that's how Jen Palumbo mentioned him, and then I
ended up giving him a call and he came.
Speaker 4: Down on his dirt bike and he just every day
come in on his dirt bike. And he loved it.
Speaker 1: He was really good, super quiet, but paying attention. Cared
was invested. It was perfect for him, like a motorcycle shop.
It was down the street from his house.
Speaker 4: I know. So that worked out really good man.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got to get him on, I know. But
to get back to me and Mikey though, now the
Mike the Mikey Vinnie bike. I watched that episode. Eva
had it on here and I kept peeking over.
Speaker 3: Oh, I haven't watched that in a long time.
Speaker 4: It was the one where we had to hug each
other when when.
Speaker 3: That girl that for the yeah, for the portrait that yeah, yeah,
that was great. That was fun.
Speaker 2: And then we did that that portrait that was that's
a copy of like a a or like an homage
or whatever to a Chris Farley's last movie.
Speaker 3: He was in it with Matthew Perry.
Speaker 2: They played like a Lewis and Lewis and Clark type expedition.
Speaker 3: I don't think he hugs him. Oh yeah, yeah, around
his waist like that.
Speaker 4: Okay, well that's perfect then. Yeah, yeah, I didn't know
that was the reason.
Speaker 1: So Vinnie mikey bike. I'm trying to picture what this
thing looks like.
Speaker 4: For some that was a black single sided swing arm.
Speaker 3: Cool cool suicide shift.
Speaker 4: Suicide shift here, you do get it? Yeah, Christian told
me he was still there that orange only stripped it
down and turned it into something else, turned it into
a regular bike and sold it. Yeah yeah, I feel
like and they were gonna throw the suicide shifter out
and Christian brought it over to me.
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice, dude. I love having trinkets now because
all that stuff's gone.
Speaker 4: You know what I got. I got a Nelson stud
from the World Trade Center.
Speaker 1: Got that I do well though, the one we put
on the bike, and it wasn't until we started cleaning
out the house I found it and I forgot it. Yeah,
because you can't have that. You can't get that stuff.
If you didn't get it, then you can't have it.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like an artifact almost, you know that
as you lost.
Speaker 4: The statue of Liberty Bike too. I got some lead
some of those yeah, I got I got the pieces
of that lead wire that went up because we were
using parts of that lead to make stuff.
Speaker 3: That's right, was it No?
Speaker 4: Was it lead wire?
Speaker 3: It was lead.
Speaker 4: It wasn't copper wire. That was copper wire encased in lead.
Speaker 1: And you still got a piece of I I got
my toolbox, So you're gonna I'm gonna take that. I'm
gonna need a little cut. We're gonna have to cut
that half. Man, We're gonna have to split that thing up.
Because I think about that stuff all the time, because
that stuff that company came to us with was from
the statue.
Speaker 4: Lea came with a suitcase full of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: I know, I know I should have grabbed something.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well you know at the time too, like well,
we were using a lot of it to work at
the time, we were, But you.
Speaker 1: Didn't really think about like his history that way.
Speaker 4: You were just in the moment the Statue of Liberty.
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: They have a piece of that.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's like a moon rock. A moon
rock with him Armstrong, you might have some. He didn't
even go to the fucking moon man. You want to
start talking about the moon lab.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about I want to talk about
Cooper pe d Cooper Peity.
Speaker 3: Oh MyH man, we were hanging out with the.
Speaker 4: Yea.
Speaker 2: He had a rat tail like you did in Night seven, right,
and he was a nice guy. Oh man, we ate,
we ate for free. They were great, the only good
restaurant in town. Everywhere else like had people huffing gasolina.
Remember that pretty much. No, it wasn't bad.
Speaker 3: No, it's just really like you gotta be a hearty
personal live out there in the desk.
Speaker 4: You remember when Remember when when our valet guy wiped
out my scooter?
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you see that? Paul?
Speaker 4: Did that make the show? I always made the show?
Actually made him turn.
Speaker 2: He was a proper guy too. I watched so many
times he signed to release. He knew he was gonna
be on the camera.
Speaker 4: Dude, in my mind before he did it, Thank god.
Speaker 2: Went flying boom right where he didn't go into into
the water, right, he heard and he hit that curve
heard him and he was too proud.
Speaker 4: My interview without lasting the guy flip because like I
saw him and I'm like, man, that guy must be
good because he was I see his feet, my god,
and he kind of wait. It was crazy as he
couldn't wait to get on the damn scooter like he
knew it. He was He's gonna ride that.
Speaker 2: It's also going to be his fifteen minutes. You know,
that guy get much exposure. Yeah, well he was my
favorite character show too. He was better than Australia.
Speaker 4: That's very funny. Actually, yeah, I'll never forget that. Dude.
Speaker 1: That was the most dramatic thing I've ever seen almost
from the show.
Speaker 4: I mean what you know, once you realized he wasn't hurt,
it was really fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it was only mildly before that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, dude, those his suit was all
cut up.
Speaker 2: I think he disappeared behind like two other guys dressed
just like him. You know what I mean, you guys
should take the one.
Speaker 1: I remember that too, because we went home. We went
we all went to Australia and then you guys, Well,
what did.
Speaker 4: You fly out? I did you? Mikey was there when
you guys? I flew out like a week later, and
you guys.
Speaker 2: For two weeks, two weeks, two weeks they were you
were there two weeks, right, Paul, Yes, yeah, well I
was there four weeks altogether.
Speaker 3: It was longer than anyone.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I stayed back and worked and then I flew out.
Mikey stayed with me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mikey was not We didn't spend any time and
not too happy. You know why, because they started throwing
us in like the ship jet, you know, like.
Speaker 4: Like we were all we all felt like we were
gonna puke at all times.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: It was a prop jet, I mean honestly.
Speaker 3: But it didn't matter. It was nice, you know what.
The problem we.
Speaker 1: Always crammed a lot in because we always wanted to
get back. So it wasn't like we we liked the
idea of it, but we didn't want to be gone
for a life, you know what I mean. You're like,
we got to get back to civilization, So they crammed
a lot in and even that prop jet, like most
people would be like, you're complaining about flying around in
a jet.
Speaker 4: It was a rough way.
Speaker 3: You guys flew around in jets.
Speaker 2: Maybe we got we got these fucking pieces of.
Speaker 3: Their last.
Speaker 4: Do you remember that time we had to fly out
to West Virginia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I yelled at the lady the one time in
the morning would hangover.
Speaker 4: So what the fuck?
Speaker 3: You know, my dad and brother they get these fucking
nice jets.
Speaker 2: Figure that piece of ship.
Speaker 3: I'm not going on there.
Speaker 1: One of the one of the people working for production,
you mean, And they always had too many cooks in
the kitchen.
Speaker 2: They'd be like three people with all.
Speaker 4: You have to step up on the wing to get in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, no seatbelt.
Speaker 4: When we flew out to West Virginia, do you remember that?
Speaker 3: Yes, we did that.
Speaker 4: We built a bike for something.
Speaker 2: There was an obese guy there and he was drinking moonshine. Airplane. Yeah,
but anyway, it was backwoods. It was backwards jerk water.
Uh NASCAR event, oh really, And we went to some
local guys like Barnyards.
Speaker 4: Did you fly there? We flew out. I'm telling you.
It was a four seedar airplane.
Speaker 3: Oh it was, yeah, we were dropping.
Speaker 4: It was a Cadillac compared to that. Really, we had
to step up on the wing that this is the plane.
Speaker 3: That John Denver died in.
Speaker 2: Overloaded.
Speaker 3: You can see glue on the wing. It's like, you know,
as John's signature.
Speaker 4: Oh but we flew out there and then we get
there and they were just they were really West Virginia.
Uh you know guys that were they were just they
want a drink moonshine, Yeah, and they mixed.
Speaker 3: With Sam's Club, like non non shirt zero sugar.
Speaker 4: And they're like they're drinking it. And then they're like
checked and they will have airplanes.
Speaker 3: They all have airplanes, everyone on and then they'd hop out.
Speaker 2: This huge guy. I don't know how the hell he
fit in the fucking thing. He like boom, pops himself
out just by breathing in comes over. He's like you
boys doing. You know, He's got like the leather hat
on and the goggles and the scarf. You know, he's like,
all right, I'm gonna take a sip of this. I'm
going back up really and he go back up. Then
he pop back out and everything, and I'm.
Speaker 4: Like, you're like, someone's gonna end up in the ground.
Speaker 3: Oyes.
Speaker 4: And they're obviously good at it, man, because he wasn't dead.
They all survived. Yeah. Wow, it was definitely like I said,
it's the journey appear that you guys did.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I feel like they were there though, but they went
a different route. Maybe probably a luxury the luxury airline
man like they were. They were rolling with Burt Reynolds.
Speaker 3: We were in the G ten were hanging out.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, yeah, wait, we took two separate flights
up I think, yeah, because I was thinking about this
the other day, because we.
Speaker 4: Were in a jet with Sterling Marlin.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He and I were with a camera guy and like
some fucking right with the drunk behind the wheel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we went and we were hitting turbulence. This guy
was sweating the whole ride. It didn't bother me too bad.
He he was freaking out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was early on. I wasn't used to
flying yet.
Speaker 1: Plus, those those things are like this, you know, the
cloud shaken through the sky.
Speaker 4: Thirty feet in a second. Yeah, those your ability, Yeah, man,
that was that was an experience.
Speaker 3: Let's just say that New Orleans. We went to New Orleans.
Speaker 4: Ship was actually an early one we did. Was we
did that, Actually we weren't. That was the first time
I think we were really like, holy crap, this show
is very very popular.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we felt like we we kind of hit fame
that it was the name of that one something Steal Pony,
Steel Pony, Yeah, steal Don drove was a truck there,
Steal Pony it was. It was.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I had to get him out of the truck,
that's right.
Speaker 1: And I think I said something, Hey, that's don Our
Driver and then he got in trouble because he was
like not supposed to be working.
Speaker 4: He was collecting Chase's grandfather. Yeah, right, yeah, yeah, I
said that's don Our Driver.
Speaker 3: Did he shy away?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Don, I gotta tell you, man, I almost forgot about Don.
Don was around for a while. Yeah, he my god, change.
Speaker 2: I never seen anyone smoke that many cigarette tell his
finger fellow, Yeah he was.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, man, but yeah, you're right it was. That
show was in the super Dome. Yeah, and uh, I'll
never forget, dude, because we went in there and the
way you remember that mic, Yeah, there had to be
a four hour week.
Speaker 4: There had to be.
Speaker 2: There was a lady with baby and she was like,
then signed my baby. He pushed her right in the mouth.
Speaker 4: She didn't even tell the most stories when we were
just remember when they used to stick us what was
what was the place Sturgis? They used to put us
at the Iron Horse, Iron Horse and they would be
up on Main Street.
Speaker 2: No, that was you were talking about Daytona, right next
to the Burnout.
Speaker 4: Yeah. This guy would just tell every fan like the
weird I beat my kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, because you know, you want to give
people a personal experience, so you don't want to be
a dick to them, but at the same time you
want to juice it up for yourself a little bit.
So outrageous about then just beating out of his kids.
Most people wouldn't even be listening to love. I'd be like,
then she just shipped his pants. Man, Oh dear, let's
get it. Let's get a picture.
Speaker 4: And then one day Mike picture made want to talk
to anybody, so he put a note on the thing
that says I have laryngitis.
Speaker 3: Remember that it might have had it. That was when
that was from smoking and whiskey.
Speaker 4: That was when Rambo was there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he gave us crazy cousin Keith's uh brother in law.
It was crazy.
Speaker 4: He was only around for one minute.
Speaker 2: Man, for that one eventge when he gave us th
HC pills, which didn't even exist at the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you had a special condition that the doctor just
threw him at him on camera. I guess right.
Speaker 2: We took the pills that Rambo had and they didn't
work because he told us they won't work the first time.
So the second time, the next day, we took double.
We were fucked up.
Speaker 3: Correct labout everything. Yeah, it was it fun.
Speaker 4: They were. He hadn't prescribed to him to keep him
from going nuts. He was nuts and right, yeah, yeah,
so he gave him to it. He gave us the
whole bottle. And I'll tell you what that was. It
was like the best thing I ever took because it
just kind of made you happy. It was nothing like
doing an edible right, nothing, really, No, it had something.
Speaker 2: It was like such a high quality it was and
you get like an equal buzz to your body and
your head and you just feel good, like U.
Speaker 4: It helped us get through those fourteen days or whatever
it was.
Speaker 1: Really you guys were like, all right, we're going back
out pop pop.
Speaker 4: Well, you gotta remember back then and those hours we
were eight hours a day, I know, dude, that was insane.
I'd rather dig a ditch for eight hours. No, not
that I'd rather, but that's just it's mentally wear very Yeah,
and you know what, the first hour you like it. Yeah,
well you're into it, and then you start to wear
and then you know what it is.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I think people don't realize this unless you have a
demand on you. It's emotionally like draw. It draws on
you emotionally, physically and physically when people just.
Speaker 4: Need to talk to you. You know, it's nothing negative
to them, it's just over like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's non stop, non stop socializing. Say, and if
you went to a family party and did that, you
need to be like into it because you don't shut
the hell up to begin with, or it would exhaust you.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like you're going out there, you take some
pictures and you leave and you're behind a curtain. You know.
We were putting all the bikes away, yeah, yeah, strapping
everything in so people are trying to come up to
you then, and you don't. I always tried my best
to talk to everybody, but like to because to get
out of there and go back and try and get
something to eat and go to sleep. You were Mayor.
You're maxed out. You were you were just maxed out.
You when you were young and you were still going
out that night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're still going out still.
Speaker 4: It was it was, it was just it was a
lot
Speaker 2: M