WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.439 --> 00:00:06.440 Deborah, with her thirty years of being an entrepreneur and 2 00:00:06.519 --> 00:00:09.919 creating over seven companies, knows exactly what it means to 3 00:00:10.039 --> 00:00:13.160 accept the mission. When you make that decision, when you 4 00:00:13.199 --> 00:00:16.359 accept the mission to become a solopreneur, to take yourself 5 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:19.039 and your talents to market, then you embrace a life 6 00:00:19.079 --> 00:00:23.120 of not only unlimited possibilities, but also the unknown. It's 7 00:00:23.160 --> 00:00:26.280 an elixir of fear and bravery that only someone who's 8 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:30.480 taken the leap really understands. On our show, deb digs 9 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:33.359 deep with her guests to highlight what you the listener 10 00:00:33.399 --> 00:00:36.600 wants to know, the stories, the whys, and the hows 11 00:00:36.759 --> 00:00:40.000 to navigate the journey to success. Get ready to hear 12 00:00:40.039 --> 00:00:43.039 from some of the most incredible mission takers from Generation 13 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:46.560 Z to boomers. So sit up, perk up, and get 14 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:49.320 ready to be blown away. Now here is your host, 15 00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:50.560 Deborah Drummond. 16 00:00:52.159 --> 00:00:58.280 Welcome back, Absolutely I am true today. Welcome audience, Thank you, 17 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:01.359 thank you. You know I think you are the best 18 00:01:01.399 --> 00:01:06.200 podcast audience ever because you are, and today you're going 19 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:09.359 to be blown away. I am so excited. We've got 20 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:12.359 Melissa Heather's in the house. I know you know her. 21 00:01:12.519 --> 00:01:15.040 I know that you know her book just went international. 22 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:18.040 I know that you know her and have heard her 23 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:19.959 name around our circles because this woman is going to 24 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:22.400 be hitting our stage and a very few in just 25 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:25.319 a couple of months. Also from the Ireland event that 26 00:01:25.359 --> 00:01:29.560 we did Rise Rise Her, she participated in that as well, 27 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:31.879 and everyone got a copy of her incredible book, which 28 00:01:31.879 --> 00:01:33.680 we're going to talk a bit about today. And you 29 00:01:33.719 --> 00:01:35.319 know what we want to talk about today, we want 30 00:01:35.319 --> 00:01:37.799 to talk about that. Look, you know the theme around 31 00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:40.280 here is stand up, speak up, and show up. That's 32 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:43.280 exactly what this woman does. But look at there is 33 00:01:43.359 --> 00:01:49.439 the world of authorship has just reached everybody. And if 34 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:52.599 you are an entrepreneur, or you're in this world, or 35 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:55.439 you're a speaker, or you're a coach, or you're a trainer, 36 00:01:55.640 --> 00:01:58.439 or you're out there networking and connecting, like a lot 37 00:01:58.439 --> 00:02:01.680 of you are. You are here people saying I'm an author, 38 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:03.560 I'm going to write my book, I'm going to finally 39 00:02:03.640 --> 00:02:06.200 get to it. I'm going to take some time, I'm 40 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:08.759 going to do all these wonderful things and you know, 41 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:11.120 finally get to the thing I always thought I was 42 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:13.560 going to do, or you here, never thought I was 43 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:16.960 going to write the world of anthologies. We all know 44 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:19.479 the two sixty two anthology and all the things that 45 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:22.360 are happening in regards to that. So there's this incredible 46 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:26.039 world that's going out there where people are really sharing 47 00:02:26.719 --> 00:02:29.639 in and they're becoming super vulnerable. You know, they're sharing 48 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:32.280 from the heart. I'm going to let less tell you 49 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:35.599 the topic of her or the title of her book, 50 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:38.240 but they're really getting to it and they're really sharing. 51 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:42.120 And if you think about that, compared to maybe even 52 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:46.199 ten years ago, like you, you just did not hear 53 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:50.360 about so many people authoring. The tools weren't as available, 54 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:55.360 the knowledge wasn't as accessible, and so now it is. 55 00:02:55.680 --> 00:03:00.199 And not only are authors writing, they're talking right, they're telling, 56 00:03:00.680 --> 00:03:04.199 and they're getting on stages sharing about their passion. And 57 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:05.599 I find that a lot of the books that are 58 00:03:05.639 --> 00:03:09.039 hitting the market are exactly that. It's about someone's passion, 59 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:13.639 it's helping its personal development, it's business development. Even when 60 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:16.599 someone tells their story, it's meant to inspire and move 61 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:20.439 people forward. So that is what Melissa Heather's done and 62 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:23.960 all things ULSSA, I'm gonna invite you to the show. 63 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:26.000 Welcome to Mission accepted Today. 64 00:03:26.400 --> 00:03:28.680 Hid thank you so much for having me on your 65 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:31.439 show today. I'm super excited to be here with the 66 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:35.360 scoovy lead leader, Dad Drummond, and the founder of two 67 00:03:35.479 --> 00:03:36.080 sixty two. 68 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:39.800 Absolutely well, look at We called each other today and 69 00:03:39.840 --> 00:03:41.599 said make sure you wear your black glasses, and make 70 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:43.159 sure you wear your black dress, and make sure that 71 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:46.719 you had your hair blonde. I was like, I came 72 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:49.240 on the show today, I'm like, oh, I'm living in 73 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:52.000 the mirror. But that's what happens when you, you know, 74 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:55.479 when you start hanging out with groovy people. Okay, let's 75 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:58.159 get to it. Let's talk a little bit about this book, 76 00:03:58.199 --> 00:04:00.400 and then let's talk about what it's like not only 77 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:02.680 to write a book, but then decide to take parts 78 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:05.240 of those books and take it, you know, even louder 79 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:07.240 and stand on a stage. So please share with us 80 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:10.439 the name of your book and what inspired you to 81 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:11.479 put pen to paper. 82 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:18.519 So my book is Dear Ego, Dear Heart. My inspiration 83 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:23.560 was actually my healing journey. It was just for myself, 84 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:27.759 and it took me a while, and I pivoted eighteen times. 85 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:29.759 I was going to write a book just about being 86 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:34.240 the average Josephine and you know, living life and having 87 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:38.600 a parent with cancer passes and all my traumas in life. 88 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:42.319 And then I realized, like a memoir is not really 89 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:46.399 my style. Poetry is my style, but it's really about 90 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:49.360 aligning the head and the heart, and through my healing journey, 91 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:52.240 that's what I did. I aligned my head and my heart. 92 00:04:52.600 --> 00:04:54.959 It was so disconnected. I lived in a place of 93 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:58.480 ego for many, many years, and you know, my inspiration 94 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:03.360 was to inspire people with love and self love and 95 00:05:03.480 --> 00:05:05.199 aligning themselves. Once again. 96 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:09.199 Wow, it's interesting that you say that you pivoted so 97 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:13.240 many times, right, because when I think that, if you've 98 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:15.279 been on the planet for a little while, there's many 99 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:18.319 stories that you can tell, right, There's many stories, there's 100 00:05:18.360 --> 00:05:21.680 many journeys, there's many overcomes, there's many forms of inspiration. 101 00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:26.079 And even for myself, right, I have a business world 102 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:29.439 that many times I teach things about business and then 103 00:05:29.639 --> 00:05:31.879 I'm like, yeah, but there's this emotional side too, and 104 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:35.879 they play a part. Like everything is relatable to things 105 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:38.360 that you talk about love and you talk about self 106 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:44.319 love and your book around der Ego Dear Heart. Some 107 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:46.959 people think that those are two completely different things, but 108 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:50.319 I don't think so. I think that they have a relationship. 109 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:53.800 Tell us how the title came to be. 110 00:05:55.759 --> 00:05:59.639 It's funny that you say that you're super intuitive. They 111 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:04.920 they are people. The world thinks they are separate entities, 112 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:08.480 but they're not. They're all a part of you. Your mind, 113 00:06:08.519 --> 00:06:11.879 your thoughts, how you perceive yourself, how you observe yourself 114 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:16.720 is part of your whole being. And if you're way 115 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:19.519 over left field and you're only in your thoughts and 116 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:24.360 you're not with your emotions, you're not aligned. So it 117 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:27.680 was super important to me, and I write about it 118 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:31.160 in my book, that your mind and your thoughts and 119 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:35.920 your ego is a part of you, and each part 120 00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:39.079 of yourself has to learn how to embrace yourself. So 121 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:43.319 it's a super important venture for me that people learn 122 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:47.079 how to really accept themselves, both sides of themselves, your 123 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:49.160 ego and your heart and your emotions. 124 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:53.399 Now I can you know sometimes you know you can 125 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:57.439 hear the next question, right, So somebody out there wants 126 00:06:57.439 --> 00:07:01.680 to know. So what's the benefit of that, Like, what 127 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:04.079 is it about getting in touch with your ego and 128 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:06.199 get in touch with your heart and reading about that? 129 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:09.319 Is it more about life's poetic? And I want to 130 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:14.360 share this journey. Is it more about what happens for 131 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:17.279 someone when they start to recognize those parts of themselves. 132 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:21.839 Wouldn't you take the moment to really look within yourself 133 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:25.040 and say, hey, I have these thoughts and I also 134 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:28.920 have these emotions, and you take the time to heal that. 135 00:07:30.680 --> 00:07:35.079 What comes is self love and self acceptance and awareness, 136 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:37.360 awareness of who you are. And once you're kind of 137 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:40.800 aware of who you are, you can really learn to 138 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:44.079 accept things about you. And at the end of the day, 139 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:47.920 it comes to becoming your true authentic self. Yeah. 140 00:07:48.600 --> 00:07:51.800 Yeah, we hear that word a lot about being authentic, 141 00:07:51.920 --> 00:07:56.040 and I think there's a new lease on life around 142 00:07:56.240 --> 00:07:59.959 being able to be more of yourself, have a sense 143 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:04.959 of freedom, you know, self acceptance, self love part of 144 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:10.040 the journey allowing life to be interesting, you know, life 145 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:12.079 to be interesting. This morning, I woke up and I 146 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:14.680 had this kind of flash of an experience that I 147 00:08:14.720 --> 00:08:17.360 had when I was much younger, and I'm like, well, 148 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:21.519 that's interesting, you know. And it wasn't like I didn't 149 00:08:21.519 --> 00:08:23.160 attach a whole lot of things, so that I was like, well, 150 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:28.319 that's an interesting thought to have. How many years later, right, Okay, 151 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:30.079 so you put how long did it take you to 152 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:32.360 put this book together. You said that you danced with 153 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:34.759 this for quite a time, and so when you decided 154 00:08:34.799 --> 00:08:37.720 to put this together, I how long did it take 155 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:40.799 you to complete? Two years? Wow? 156 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:42.159 Yeah, two years. 157 00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:44.720 I never asked that question, And I'm like, why am 158 00:08:44.759 --> 00:08:48.279 I asking that question? I think that's so important that 159 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:52.399 you know, because we live in a very fast ay, 160 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:54.960 you too can have da da da da da in 161 00:08:55.039 --> 00:08:58.440 ninety days, and I mean it's just everywhere, right, but 162 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:03.279 that there can be something very profound about moving it 163 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:06.759 at the pace that you know, dancing to that, dancing to. 164 00:09:06.759 --> 00:09:09.399 That, Yeah, I love that dub like it really was 165 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:13.279 a dance. Like, I'm not a writer or an author 166 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:15.720 by trade, so it really had to be when I 167 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:18.919 had the downloads or when I was living life in 168 00:09:18.960 --> 00:09:22.759 my authentic self and experiencing beauty. Like I really had 169 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:25.559 to feel things with the world, and when I did, 170 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:27.720 I would get a download and then I would write. 171 00:09:27.840 --> 00:09:29.960 So that's why it took a little longer for me. 172 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:33.440 No, I don't tend to ask that question and think 173 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:36.240 it was a time that is perfect to ask, because 174 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:41.080 you know, taking the time to author, write journal, what 175 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:45.480 have you? Harry Go should not be full of shoulds, 176 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:48.200 you know, like, oh, it took so long, well really 177 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:52.080 long compared to what like long compared to what do 178 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:54.840 you know what I mean? So, look, we're going to 179 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:56.679 talk a little bit about speaking, because I know that 180 00:09:56.720 --> 00:09:59.879 you do both. Some authors, you know, they do the 181 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:02.440 book and standing in front of a stage. They'd rather 182 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:05.320 go write ten more books, you know. And then there's 183 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:09.960 people that speak and they're like, I keep speaking my story, don't. 184 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:13.679 I don't want to, nor desire to, nor feel like 185 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:16.759 I can put it down on paper. So you're doing both. 186 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:20.120 When you speak, do you share about things in your 187 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:22.039 book or are you sharing about something else that you 188 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:22.679 offer the world. 189 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:30.440 It really depends on what the interviewee wants to talk about. 190 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:37.399 So I have spoke about very heavy emotional darkness that 191 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:40.240 I've endured in my life, and I'm okay with that 192 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:42.639 because I am an open book and I want to share, 193 00:10:42.919 --> 00:10:45.879 you know, those experiences. And then there's other times where 194 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:48.720 it's like just about the book and the inspiration of 195 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:49.200 the books. 196 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:53.080 So right, let's talk a little bit about speaking, because 197 00:10:53.120 --> 00:10:57.639 they've talked about authoring, and I find it really interesting. 198 00:10:57.720 --> 00:11:02.240 Every speaker has their own way. You know from how 199 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:04.759 do you prepare? Like, how do you prepare you talk 200 00:11:04.759 --> 00:11:08.480 about emotional content? So there's sometimes there can be different 201 00:11:08.519 --> 00:11:11.879 preparation for people that are talking different topics. Right. I 202 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:14.879 think about some of the speakers that I know to 203 00:11:14.960 --> 00:11:17.399 talk emotional contents with some of the things that they 204 00:11:17.440 --> 00:11:19.480 need to do in more in terms of self care 205 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:23.759 or their preparations, very different if someone's talking about AI, 206 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:27.559 for example, what about for yourself? Right? Put about for yourself? 207 00:11:27.799 --> 00:11:30.279 Is there anything that you would say that you do 208 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:33.200 to help prepare yourself to be to speak in the 209 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:34.320 way you want to be heard? 210 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:40.080 Well, this is really all very new to me, especially 211 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:43.600 the speaking component. I was in my heart I was 212 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:46.120 a writer and I would be a writer one day. 213 00:11:47.000 --> 00:11:49.519 So you know, after I launched my book, there was 214 00:11:49.519 --> 00:11:52.759 some immediate podcasts and lines that I had to do 215 00:11:53.360 --> 00:11:56.600 and I had never done anything like that before. I'm 216 00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:59.519 very introverted and shy by nature, and I also had 217 00:11:59.519 --> 00:12:02.639 a brain about twelve years ago, so sometimes I really 218 00:12:02.679 --> 00:12:06.159 struggle verbalizing things and I really had to like heal 219 00:12:06.480 --> 00:12:09.679 that for many many years. So for me, the key 220 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:14.159 is it's preparation and also like I kind of try 221 00:12:14.159 --> 00:12:17.240 and observe my thoughts and if they're going crazy or 222 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:22.080 my egos taking over, I just slowly redirect it, meditate, 223 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:26.919 and right before any sort of live or speaking event, 224 00:12:27.080 --> 00:12:30.559 I do what's called Cunelini punches and breathing techniques. And 225 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:34.360 then most importantly, I've always promised myself that I would 226 00:12:34.399 --> 00:12:37.200 speak from my heart, and that's what I do. I 227 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:39.720 just speak my truth and that's all it's got to 228 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:40.360 be for my heart. 229 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:44.960 So no, that's it's really valuable for people to share 230 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:49.879 that piece because with people that are that speak and 231 00:12:49.919 --> 00:12:52.200 then kind of don't know how to put themselves back 232 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:57.159 together right, leave themselves kind of you know, unsun and 233 00:12:57.559 --> 00:13:01.120 people that want to speak or want to share that whole. 234 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:07.080 Preparation before and or preparation after is very important, including 235 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:11.200 which is something that I think overall we probably don't 236 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:13.120 do a lot is you know, even like a little 237 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:16.039 celebration dance or something. We just kind of speak and 238 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:19.679 we go into it and then we forget that the 239 00:13:19.679 --> 00:13:21.799 majority of the world would never want to get up 240 00:13:21.799 --> 00:13:23.679 on stage, the majority of the world would never want 241 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:27.879 to share, and just the nerves alone. So the preparation 242 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:31.159 beforehand I think helps people understand I do the same thing. 243 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:35.000 I do some grounding. I have spoke the same subject 244 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:37.320 many many many years on some of the things that 245 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:40.879 I teach. I still just rewrite it. Now. I'm a 246 00:13:40.879 --> 00:13:42.799 big neuro person right and did a lot of brain 247 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:46.159 health for a lot of years. So I love to write. 248 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:49.000 I just know that it imprints so much better. And 249 00:13:49.159 --> 00:13:51.759 I'll take a look at my notes, and sometimes I 250 00:13:51.799 --> 00:13:53.360 look at my notes and I go, you've written those 251 00:13:53.399 --> 00:13:55.799 notes twenty times because you spoke all that twenty times 252 00:13:55.879 --> 00:13:58.519 last year. But that's part of my process, and I 253 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:00.720 think it just helps me write it out and there's 254 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:03.000 a knowingness. I'm like, oh, I have notes. Even though 255 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:06.039 I don't need notes, I have notes, or I do 256 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:08.240 the same thing. I get really quiet right before I 257 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:10.279 tend to go out in the balcony because I'm on 258 00:14:10.360 --> 00:14:12.240 eleventh floor, so it's not like an go outside and 259 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:15.840 put my feet on the ground immediately, and I just 260 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:18.120 go and go, Okay, whoever needs to hear what I 261 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:20.360 need to say today, you know, let it be one, 262 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:22.320 let it be two, let it be twenty thousand, it 263 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:25.840 doesn't really matter. Just let's make sure that I say 264 00:14:25.879 --> 00:14:28.240 what needed to be said, someone showed up today for 265 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:32.840 something special, that extra person that needed that something. So yeah, 266 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:36.080 very very very good. Well how long have you been 267 00:14:36.120 --> 00:14:40.639 doing what you're doing authoring? Yeah? Like when did the 268 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:41.399 book launch? 269 00:14:42.039 --> 00:14:48.240 Yeah, it's been about four year journey. And like I said, 270 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:51.639 I started different books at different times and it just 271 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:57.240 didn't take. And this one spoke to my heart. Speaking live, 272 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:01.279 I'm a newbie. I'm a baby girl. Yeah, I like 273 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:04.480 Bards and learning from you. And I know it's December, 274 00:15:04.559 --> 00:15:08.799 I guess like six months. Yeah, yeah, it's okay now 275 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:10.399 to be open to that. 276 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:15.320 So yeah, I think it shows that one one opportunity, 277 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:17.519 when you brave up in one area, that it leads 278 00:15:17.559 --> 00:15:20.600 to other opportunities. And I think it's something really important 279 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:23.679 to be seen. I do a lot of shows myself 280 00:15:23.759 --> 00:15:26.600 and my son do a lot of shows with you know, 281 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:30.799 this incredible new generation of entrepreneurs that are starting it 282 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:33.759 right from the get go, you know, and so Ocean 283 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:37.200 being twenty one, and we talked. The last question that 284 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:39.600 I that I ask, and hey, let's throw it out there, 285 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:42.440 is you know, what's the big what's the big picture? 286 00:15:42.639 --> 00:15:45.399 You know, if it could come true, what is it 287 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:47.759 that you want to come true. And there's so much 288 00:15:47.919 --> 00:15:50.840 power in being in in sharing what it is that 289 00:15:50.879 --> 00:15:52.919 we want and where we're going and what we're looking for. 290 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:55.240 And it doesn't matter if it's now or ten years 291 00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:57.440 from now or five years from now. There's something. And 292 00:15:57.480 --> 00:15:59.720 I think you under you understand that and probably are 293 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:02.519 long that you know philosophy that when you say it, 294 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:05.480 there's a cool vibe that goes out right. And so 295 00:16:05.799 --> 00:16:08.399 you know, these young creatives are doing their thing and 296 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:10.679 I'm like, you know, what's the big goal? You know, 297 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:12.000 what do you got that you want to go on? 298 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:14.840 And they tend to have it, they know it right, 299 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:19.360 and they may be, you know, not close to it yet, 300 00:16:19.759 --> 00:16:22.919 but there's this It goes out there and it lays track. 301 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:25.240 And I think the same thing is when you actually 302 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:27.559 start to put one foot in front of another and 303 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:30.879 conquer something, then all of a sudden, all these doors 304 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:34.360 open and it can be interesting. It can be interesting. 305 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:38.200 It can be that, you know, it can be people 306 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:40.919 retreat a little bit, it's too much success too soon, 307 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:43.639 or it's like whooh, I didn't not do that, or 308 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:47.120 it's thrilling, and it just continues to go. At some point, 309 00:16:47.159 --> 00:16:49.399 I think you're like, you know, people get too wow, 310 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:51.799 this is this is getting pretty cool in groovy that's 311 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:53.840 you're assume when that you're of a coaching whoa, this 312 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:56.879 is getting pretty big. But what about for you, like, 313 00:16:57.320 --> 00:16:59.960 how does it? Did you expect that when you wrote 314 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:02.240 that book and put it to market that these opportunities 315 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:02.720 would come. 316 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:11.799 I'm my philosophy is to have no expectations. But I'm 317 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:17.519 Claire Audio and I have downloads and hear things. And 318 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:21.799 I'm not super religious, and if you are, that's great, 319 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:27.039 But I really, in my heart felt the faith that 320 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:29.599 I was supposed to write this book and it will 321 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:32.400 be a trilogy, So I'm supposed to write this trilogy. 322 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:37.319 So and I'm a really powerful manifestor. But I wasn't 323 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:42.160 used to, you know, the success that comes with it, 324 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:44.319 and I didn't know how to network. And it's been 325 00:17:44.519 --> 00:17:47.920 a really great learning opportunity. And I love how you 326 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:50.880 talk about our kids generation. My son's also twenty and 327 00:17:51.279 --> 00:17:53.759 they just have it like I wish that I had that. 328 00:17:53.839 --> 00:17:54.640 When I was little. 329 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:57.039 We just didn't, you know, we were seen and not 330 00:17:57.119 --> 00:17:58.200 heard in our generation. 331 00:17:58.480 --> 00:18:02.400 And yeah, yeah, it was very different I say that 332 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:06.400 from the generation before us. Till now. I feel like 333 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:10.119 there's been ten generations, right, I mean, yeah, the consciousness 334 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:16.480 that's come, the evolution, the conversations, the the allowance, the 335 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:21.039 you know, the growth, like you know, everyone grown up, 336 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:23.759 I call it. It's been good. It's been good. So look, 337 00:18:23.880 --> 00:18:26.119 let's tell We've talked a lot about different things that 338 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:28.359 you've taken that have felt risky. But is there one 339 00:18:28.559 --> 00:18:31.079 you know, we're mission accepted, you know, double seven Da 340 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:34.240 da da da da. Taking risks and running on the adventure, 341 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:39.039 you know, sure, and then jumping in, but the was 342 00:18:39.079 --> 00:18:41.720 there something that was like, okay, what was one of 343 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:43.839 the biggest risks that you felt that you took? 344 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:48.279 Oh my gosh, there's been so many risks in my life. 345 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:53.599 I actually recently left my eighteen year, eighteen year corporate career. 346 00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:56.359 I'm still in the industry a bit more family run. 347 00:18:57.519 --> 00:19:00.680 But the biggest breaths I actually took I was keeping 348 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:03.880 faith that it was okay to lean into myself and 349 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:06.359 take a real hard look at what was in there. 350 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:09.480 And then the rest of looking deep allowed me to 351 00:19:09.559 --> 00:19:11.440 let go of my ego and take that leap of 352 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:14.160 faith from my heart to heal myself. And you know, 353 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:18.160 love myself again. You know, risking being vulnerable with myself 354 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:21.880 was scary, but through it, I really learned to trust 355 00:19:21.920 --> 00:19:24.920 myself and believe in myself and really align my head 356 00:19:24.920 --> 00:19:27.759 into my heart. And you know how the old saying goes, 357 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:31.519 deb no risk, no reward, and my reward through all 358 00:19:31.559 --> 00:19:35.000 of it has been courage and self love. So you know, 359 00:19:35.079 --> 00:19:37.160 now I have the courage to be vulnerable with the 360 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:40.519 world and share my vulnerability from a true place of 361 00:19:40.599 --> 00:19:43.400 love with my writing and now podcasts. 362 00:19:43.440 --> 00:19:47.200 So yeah, very cool. Look, we're going to wrap up soon. 363 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:49.920 And I can't ask that question and not ask this 364 00:19:50.039 --> 00:19:53.799 because it's the light. Life is full of surprises, right, 365 00:19:53.920 --> 00:19:57.720 life is full of surprises, and some of the coolest 366 00:19:57.759 --> 00:19:59.799 things that have happened in my world of entrepreneurship and 367 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:02.880 my life write things that you just would never expect. 368 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:06.240 For one, having our project at the Emmets and Oscars, 369 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:08.680 I can tell you was not on my treasure map. 370 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:12.799 Like I've got four treasure maps, double sided and not 371 00:20:12.839 --> 00:20:14.920 on any of them. Now, there was words that said 372 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:17.680 go big. You know, good things are happening, like all 373 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:22.400 those kind of things, but sometimes you just can't see 374 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:24.960 that or you know, standing in church one day and 375 00:20:25.079 --> 00:20:27.240 Pierce Bronce's and there I'm like, I like your work. 376 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:31.799 He's like, thanks, how mean? Let goh that's nice. Those 377 00:20:31.880 --> 00:20:35.240 kind of surprise things. What for you has been one 378 00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:37.359 of the coolest. Oh my gosh. I never thought this 379 00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:39.799 would happen, or I never thought i'd meet this person. 380 00:20:39.839 --> 00:20:43.880 What's a cool surprise that's happened for you? Oh? 381 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:47.359 Oh my god. So, as we know, I'm a self 382 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:50.119 published author and it was all new to me. And 383 00:20:50.720 --> 00:20:52.599 you know, once upon a time I was an analyst. 384 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:55.039 So after I launched my book, from time to time, 385 00:20:55.079 --> 00:20:57.079 I would just go on Google. I didn't have any 386 00:20:57.279 --> 00:20:59.839 SEO searches, and I would just search my book titles 387 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:02.559 or my website to see kind of what pulled up. 388 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:06.640 And to my amazement, about a month ago, Dear Ego, 389 00:21:06.680 --> 00:21:10.079 Dear Heart was the first thing that the SEO searches 390 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:12.720 engines did. I had like nothing to do with that. 391 00:21:12.759 --> 00:21:16.039 I don't know anything about that. So yeah, I pulled 392 00:21:16.119 --> 00:21:18.839 up everywhere, and it was on some pretty big catalogs 393 00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:22.559 and big hitters, Barnes and Noble, Indigo Makers and Quinn 394 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:26.880 Better World Books. And so when I did that, I 395 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:29.319 was like really tired. I don't know what was going on. 396 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:33.000 It was late at night, and I thought I was delusional, 397 00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:36.000 Like I was like, I'm dreaming, Like I'm dreaming, this 398 00:21:36.079 --> 00:21:38.880 is not happening. So I called my partner at work. 399 00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:41.400 I'm like, can you just like search my book or 400 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:44.440 my website or my name and you know, see what happens. 401 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:47.839