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<v Speaker 1>Figure out who Johnny Hustle is, Charlie Hustle, Sean killed

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<v Speaker 1>the music. I had another show planned for you tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to make God laugh, tell him your plans.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>And for Cincinnati Reds fans in many cases across the board,

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<v Speaker 1>for baseball fans who loved great iconic players. Today was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a punch in the mouth when we got

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<v Speaker 1>the news that and yes, by God, Peter Edward Rose

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<v Speaker 1>had passed at the age of eighty three, not been

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<v Speaker 1>well for a while. That was kind of known. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it, including Pete. But it's one of these

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<v Speaker 1>nights where the show that was planned, eh, it goes

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<v Speaker 1>out the window, at least for tonight. I remember December eighth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty I was on the air at a station

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<v Speaker 1>in Nashville whatever. I was just young and part time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was tuning into the station. I wasn't there

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<v Speaker 1>at the time because they were doing a transmitter test

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<v Speaker 1>of their new one hundred thousand transmitter, big deal for us,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was listening to the white noise, the static

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<v Speaker 1>of an FM signal that wasn't there, And then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, it kicked in booming, and the first

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<v Speaker 1>words out of the announcer's mouth was John Lennon is dead.

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<v Speaker 1>And for a lot of people, now, John Lennon was

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<v Speaker 1>forty years old, but for a lot of people in

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati who were devout Reds fans, this is like the news.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not trying to do the weird comparison thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but I guess I am Elvis died. The Elvis of

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<v Speaker 1>hitting in Major League Baseball just passed. To get some

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<v Speaker 1>reactions tonight, and I want your reactions. Phone lines are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be open for at least a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>hours five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, but

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<v Speaker 1>we have some regular night tap people on to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this. And I give him the credit of saying

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<v Speaker 1>he's regular. Andy Furman, Uh, what were your first thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>when you heard that Pete Rose had died?

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<v Speaker 2>First off, the shaker, I'm heartbroken, and I want to

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<v Speaker 2>commend you because the way you introduced this whole situation,

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<v Speaker 2>because the last hour or so, I'm listening to news

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm scanning the dial both on radio and TV,

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<v Speaker 2>and all I hear about is iconic baseball player who

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<v Speaker 2>gambled and gambled. No, this is not a night to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about what he has accomplished or not accomplished. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a night to take care and honor and remember

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<v Speaker 2>one of our own. He was born here in Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 2>loved the game of baseball, and honestly, Gary Jiff, I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot name five people right hand that have done more

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<v Speaker 2>of an impact in any sport this I've been alive

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<v Speaker 2>and any sport maybe forever you got Michael Jordan and basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>Pete Rose in baseball maybe, I don't know, Tom Brady

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<v Speaker 2>and football, perhaps maybe Jimmy Brown, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>agree Rose is the man, and I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about what his past wore, accomplishments or his miscues.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't want to talk about that. It's not the time

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<v Speaker 2>of place now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that forty two to fifty six is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay because also it is a time for the

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<v Speaker 1>celebration of a life that brought a lot of joy

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot of fans in sports, especially here in Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>with the Big Red Machine in nineteen season he played.

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<v Speaker 1>He played more games than anybody else, more at bats

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<v Speaker 1>than anybody else, and nobody could hit the ball like

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Rose.

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<v Speaker 2>And more hits than anybody else, Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>More hits than anybody else in the history of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>And the fact that he went through every game sixty

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<v Speaker 1>miles an hour into a brick wall. That's how he played.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was nothing he wouldn't do to try and win.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm here to remember, and I may have seen

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<v Speaker 2>Pee Rose more off the baseball field than on the

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<v Speaker 2>baseball field.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because when I first arrived in Cincinnati, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>back in the fall of eighty one, I was the

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<v Speaker 2>publicist that then Latonia Racecourse, which is now Turfway Park,

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<v Speaker 2>and when baseball season ended, Pete Rose made Latonia Race

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<v Speaker 2>Course his home and I would spend almost every night.

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<v Speaker 2>We raced five six nights a.

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<v Speaker 4>Week during the winter months, and he was there.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, people will comment about a good bet

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<v Speaker 2>or a different but it's legal to bet on horse racing.

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<v Speaker 2>And he loved the sport of thorough and racing. And

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<v Speaker 2>we got to know one another. And as the time

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<v Speaker 2>wore on, you know, his wife and my wife became friends,

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<v Speaker 2>and they traveled together at times. But more than that,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember a time when I was kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>one percent two percent owner of a minor league baseball

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<v Speaker 2>team in Richmond, Indiana called the Richmond Roosters in the

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<v Speaker 2>Frontier League, which is no more. We sold it years

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<v Speaker 2>ago and they were looking for a guest for their

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<v Speaker 2>All Star dinner. The All Star game was in Richmond, Indiana,

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<v Speaker 2>and Pete Rose came spoke to the to the All

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<v Speaker 2>Stars the day before and stay for the game the

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<v Speaker 2>next night in Richmond, Indiana at the Don McBride Stadium,

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<v Speaker 2>and right after the game. He wanted to get paid

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<v Speaker 2>in cash, and he did, and we took a limo

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<v Speaker 2>out there. Arnie met his good friend and mine and

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<v Speaker 2>we were out there and we came back, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a wonderful evening.

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<v Speaker 3>So he was a friend.

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<v Speaker 2>And several years later there was a mon league ball

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<v Speaker 2>club in Wilmington and Wilmington, Ohio, and they wanted Pete

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<v Speaker 2>to come there as well. And the only kind of drawback,

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<v Speaker 2>or if you want to say, the reasoning of what

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted in his contract, he wanted to fly there.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was a forty five minute flight from Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 2>and a private plane to Wilmington. However, he still wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to go by plane, so we boarded the plane and

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<v Speaker 2>was Arnie meant myself and Pete. We get up in

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<v Speaker 2>the air and Pete had a tremendous sense of humor.

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<v Speaker 2>May he rest his soul and he says to me

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<v Speaker 2>and Arnie on the flight, did any of you guys

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<v Speaker 2>know how to fly a plane? I said no, Arnie

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<v Speaker 2>says no. We look at one another. What's he talking about?

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<v Speaker 5>So?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what happens if the pilot it's a heart attack.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's Pete Rose's humor. And I got to know

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<v Speaker 2>it first class first.

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<v Speaker 5>But this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is not an odd consideration. I think that he was

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<v Speaker 1>being very pragmatic. Andy anything else real quick, because we

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<v Speaker 1>have the phone lines open and people are starting to

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<v Speaker 1>want to open up about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to hear the people. I really want

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<v Speaker 2>to hear the people talk because you know, you know

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<v Speaker 2>how I feel. I choked up, but I have nothing

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<v Speaker 2>else to say. He's one of those guys in life

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<v Speaker 2>you don't think's ever going to pass. He's always going

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<v Speaker 2>to be there. And when I got the news today,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of thought it was quote fake news. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought people do that at the times, they just say that,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was confirmed when I heard it I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>believe it. And I heard you open the show saying

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<v Speaker 2>that we knew he was ill. I never knew he

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<v Speaker 2>was sick. I know he had tremendously bad needs because

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<v Speaker 2>he'd come in to see thout the crump check every

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<v Speaker 2>couple of months to get shots. But other than that,

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<v Speaker 2>I just I have.

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<v Speaker 3>Heard things in confidence. That's all I'm want to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I believe you know. I mean, I'm not questioning you,

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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't know that he was us signing autographs

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<v Speaker 2>probably seventy two hours ago.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's what's the way he is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he was right up to the end, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty miles an hour into a brick wall.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to thank you, but I want to

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for permitting me to speak my peace and

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<v Speaker 2>the man.

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<v Speaker 4>I loved him, I really did.

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<v Speaker 6>I loved him.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not going to stay here and make this

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<v Speaker 2>into an argument.

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<v Speaker 1>Of oh shit, I just cut Andy off now, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, And he's right, and we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about an argument about the Hall of Fame. Although

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<v Speaker 1>many of us think that he definitely belongs in the

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball Hall of Fame for his efforts on the field

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<v Speaker 1>and the joy that he gave so many people for

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<v Speaker 1>so many years.

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<v Speaker 3>We have Greg Horde on the line.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Greg for taking the time to chime in

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<v Speaker 1>tonight about Pete Rose.

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<v Speaker 7>Hi, Garry, how are you?

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<v Speaker 8>You know what?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm well, I'm still here talking to you, So that

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<v Speaker 1>means that something's going right.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, both of us, both of us.

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<v Speaker 3>So your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 10>My thoughts.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, I agree with so much of what Andy said,

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<v Speaker 11>and Andy like Pete was a friend. The thing that

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<v Speaker 11>I think of when I think of Petere's I've never

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<v Speaker 11>known anyone who enjoyed their job more than Pete Rose

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<v Speaker 11>enjoyed his his utter love for every moment that was

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<v Speaker 11>involved with his baseball career as a player. Now as

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<v Speaker 11>a manager, of that kind of changed. But as a player,

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<v Speaker 11>I've never known anyone like that. And I said earlier,

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<v Speaker 11>I was talking to someone. I said that there are

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<v Speaker 11>two things, two moments that I'll never forget about Peet.

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<v Speaker 2>One was the look in his eye.

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<v Speaker 11>The night he broke Ty Cobb's record that night, and

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<v Speaker 11>also the night that I had to confront him with

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<v Speaker 11>the news that baseball had betting slips, and the heartbreak

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<v Speaker 11>that was in his eyes that night, the joy and

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<v Speaker 11>the heartbreak, and then that kind of brings me to

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<v Speaker 11>the thought that, like Andy was talking about, I can't

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<v Speaker 11>think the single soul who has brought this city more

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<v Speaker 11>joy on one hand in his playing career and more

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<v Speaker 11>sorrow with the whole Hall of Fame tortuous.

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<v Speaker 10>Year after year debate.

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<v Speaker 11>And the fact that you know, there's so many of

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<v Speaker 11>us and I had a Hall of Fame vote for

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<v Speaker 11>a long long time. The thing that I think that

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<v Speaker 11>hurts so many of us who had the vote, and

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<v Speaker 11>I won't discuss my feelings about that other than to

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<v Speaker 11>say this, I think that, more than betting, what we

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<v Speaker 11>were hurt by was the fact that he lied and

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<v Speaker 11>we felt like he was a brother and that he

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<v Speaker 11>lied to us about this unfortunate thing. In other words,

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<v Speaker 11>had he just said I did it, damn it, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 11>it would have all gone away. And I will forever

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<v Speaker 11>believe that. But that borders on the whole Hall of

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<v Speaker 11>Fame argument that I know you don't want to get into.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's not that I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy didn't want to get into it, and Greg, that's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>But again I would rather talk about the joy part.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is not manufactured joy like a political campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the real joy of watching Pete Rose expend

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<v Speaker 1>every last ounce of his energy and adrenaline on a

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<v Speaker 1>baseball field and just when it took whatever it took,

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<v Speaker 1>sliding had first barreling over somebody, you know, just charging

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<v Speaker 1>a ball like nobody else charged the ball, and Jerry.

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<v Speaker 11>Jeff that this was a common man doing it. This

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<v Speaker 11>was not someone with great talent was this was one

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<v Speaker 11>of us. This was a regular guy who took regular

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<v Speaker 11>a regular guy's talent, but had this heart and this

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<v Speaker 11>soul that drove him, drove him with this spectacular energy

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<v Speaker 11>to reach these feats, and I think that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Greg, you, like you said, you saw the look

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<v Speaker 1>in his eyes on both occasions person to person, and

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<v Speaker 1>those are just a couple of things that you will

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<v Speaker 1>always remember about Pete Rose, and thank you for sharing

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<v Speaker 1>those with us tonight.

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<v Speaker 7>Quite welcome, Jerry Jeff, thanks for asking you.

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<v Speaker 3>Bet Doug in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a few minutes before the break you were

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<v Speaker 1>on early What are your thoughts about the passing of

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<v Speaker 12>Gary Jeff, it's really good to talk to you. I'll

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<v Speaker 12>be honest with you. My wife was out and she

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<v Speaker 12>called me, said, Pete Rose died. I didn't know, and

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<v Speaker 12>my first thought was, thank god, now he's going to

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<v Speaker 12>get into the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, it's Isn't that sad that we have have to

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<v Speaker 6>It's very sad.

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<v Speaker 12>Gary, Jeff, I've been a Reds fan for I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 12>I'm your age. I'll be sixty four this year. I've

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<v Speaker 3>Since telling hey, quit telling people my age.

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<v Speaker 6>I know how you are.

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<v Speaker 12>Actually you're you're lit roader than me, so that means

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<v Speaker 12>you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>Ahead.

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<v Speaker 12>Anyway, Pete Rose, to me was the greatest ballplayer in

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<v Speaker 12>the history of the world. And I'm just saying because

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<v Speaker 12>you got four thousand and two of some hits with

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<v Speaker 12>There's no reason why he should not be and he

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<v Speaker 12>will be in the Hall of Fame now because he's passed.

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<v Speaker 12>And that's really sad, it really is.

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<v Speaker 3>It shouldn't it shouldn't have been a discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, jeez, there's a possibility, and and you know

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<v Speaker 1>people talking that, you know, Barry Bonds and the other

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<v Speaker 1>players never get into the Hall of Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 1>because of the performance enhancing drugs and all of that

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<v Speaker 1>that the MLB gave a nod and a wink two

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<v Speaker 1>back in the mid nineties when they wanted the crowds

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<v Speaker 1>to come back after the strike, and so they allowed

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<v Speaker 1>this to happen and then blame the players and blackballed them,

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<v Speaker 1>and those people are black balled. I think it should

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<v Speaker 1>be a measure of what you did on the field,

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<v Speaker 1>not anything to do with your moral character. I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>some of my friends will disagree with me, but the

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame is about what you did, you were

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<v Speaker 1>famous for in the field of play while you were playing,

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<v Speaker 1>and nothing else. And Doug, thank you for sharing your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts about Pete. It's gonna be, like I said, hard

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<v Speaker 1>for people to start. Yeah, real quick, go.

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<v Speaker 12>Ahead, Garret, Jeff, I'll listened to you every Saturday morning.

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<v Speaker 12>And my mother in law is a she's eighty three

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<v Speaker 12>and she's a Pete Rose. He's in tears because of

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<v Speaker 12>Pete Rose. And I just wanting to say it's a

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<v Speaker 12>sad day, but it's a happy day because I really

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<v Speaker 12>believe Pete Rose is going to get in the Hall

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<v Speaker 12>of Fame. Because of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, as a Christian, I'm hoping it's a happy day

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<v Speaker 1>in the celebratory day for Pete because he's now.

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<v Speaker 6>An and you know what, one more thing, Go Trump,

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<v Speaker 6>Go Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Doug, Thanks, it's talking.

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<v Speaker 1>It's talking about Pete, Pete Rose on the nightcap on

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<v Speaker 5>Sparky and my dear friend John McNamara and all the

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<v Speaker 5>way to Lupnella and Tony Perez, Davy Johnson, Ray Knight

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<v Speaker 5>and my buddy Jack McKeon and all the coaches that

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<v Speaker 5>worked under them for also helping me in my education

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<v Speaker 5>of this wonderful game, and all the players over the

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<v Speaker 5>last twenty seven years, even the guys who didn't particularly

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<v Speaker 5>care for my style and some still don't today, but

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<v Speaker 5>especially the guys that are here. Two who are already

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<v Speaker 5>in Johnny Bench, Joe Morgan, and one who's being inducted today,

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<v Speaker 5>Tony Perez, very vital parts of the big Red machine.

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<v Speaker 5>They were not only business associates for one of a

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<v Speaker 5>better term, they were also and still are today very

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<v Speaker 5>good friends.

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<v Speaker 3>And those from that.

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<v Speaker 5>Team who should be in the hall, and Art.

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<v Speaker 3>Bob Housen. Bob Housen who built.

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<v Speaker 5>Two world championship organizations in Saint Louis and Cincinnati. Davey Concepts,

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<v Speaker 5>the owned who was the pre eminent shortstop of his time.

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<v Speaker 1>And Yes, by God, Peter Edward Rhodes, Yes, by God,

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Edward Rose. Marty Brenneman was asked by many people.

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<v Speaker 1>He told me not to mention Pete Rose at his

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<v Speaker 1>induction ceremony when Marty became a Hall of Famer. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I recall from the conversation. But there was no

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<v Speaker 1>way that you were going to keep Marty Brenneman silent

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<v Speaker 1>about what he thought about the hit King, Pete Rose,

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<v Speaker 1>who passed away today at the age of eighty three.

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<v Speaker 1>To talk a little bit more about the hit King,

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<v Speaker 1>and the phone lines are open till eleven o'clock tonight

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<v Speaker 1>five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, eight hundred. The

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<v Speaker 1>Big One, Gary Jeff on a special night cap on

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<v Speaker 1>a special said, and like I said, if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at it, a certain way of celebratory night as we

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<v Speaker 1>remember Peter Edward Rose and Jim Lebarbara, who knew Pete

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<v Speaker 1>and has some stories for us, Professor, We we had

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<v Speaker 1>another we had another show planned with each other tonight

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<v Speaker 1>but that's gonna happen next week, I guess. But tonight

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<v Speaker 1>you're here on behalf of Pete Rose and his fantastic legacy.

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<v Speaker 3>So tell me what you got.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, what a great Did you ever know anybody who

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<v Speaker 13>was more passionate, who had more blove for baseball than

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<v Speaker 13>Pete Rose? No one, no one, And it would have

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<v Speaker 13>been a great ambassador for baseball. And it hit me

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<v Speaker 13>like a blow to the stomach the santnoon to say,

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<v Speaker 13>I had a great love affair with Pete Rose, and

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<v Speaker 13>Pete had that love affair with Cincinnati. And he's one

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<v Speaker 13>of the first people I met when I came to Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 13>went on a cruise with Pete and his wife's and

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<v Speaker 13>there I can still see him sitting by the poolside

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<v Speaker 13>the Anthony with a T shirt on, the long pants,

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<v Speaker 13>working on the tan. And I can remember one night

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<v Speaker 13>and Scar a Lot is the tngue in Pete's at.

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<v Speaker 9>The bar are.

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<v Speaker 13>Ye didn't drink. He's at the bar area, you know,

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<v Speaker 13>sitting down with somebody having dinner, and drug came up

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<v Speaker 13>to Pete gave him all kinds of statics, and I said,

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<v Speaker 13>oh man, you gotta get Scar a Lot over here

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<v Speaker 13>to get get this gunk out of here, and before

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<v Speaker 13>you know it, Pete won the guy over. He's buying

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<v Speaker 13>him a drink, and a guy loves Pete Rose, and

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<v Speaker 13>that was Pete Rose. One of the most memorable nights

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<v Speaker 13>I ever had carry Jeff was teeth Con party had

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<v Speaker 13>a tennis tournament, celebrity tennis tournament, and after the tournament,

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<v Speaker 13>I stuck around with Pete Rose and Tank Klezuski and

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<v Speaker 13>the wives and we set around and I was just there.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean, the two of them were talking baseball, and

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<v Speaker 13>it was magic because as much lully as that Ted had,

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<v Speaker 13>of course, and there's Pete town toe and Ted every

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<v Speaker 13>pitch that he got.

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<v Speaker 6>To hit on.

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<v Speaker 13>He knew everything about baseball. And I really thought that

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<v Speaker 13>when Pete Rose came and said, okay, yes, I've been

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<v Speaker 13>on baseball, that baseball would have taken that and used him,

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<v Speaker 13>used him, used Pete Rose as an ambassador to take

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<v Speaker 13>him and just dragging around all the spring training sites

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<v Speaker 13>to talk to the young guys, to say, guys, I

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<v Speaker 13>messed up, I screwed up, and here's what you should do.

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<v Speaker 13>He would have been a great ambassador for the minor

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<v Speaker 13>leagues and for major League Baseball and because Baseball had

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<v Speaker 13>that chip on his shoulder, hopefully it's going to drop

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<v Speaker 13>off now. They could have used him, you know, and

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<v Speaker 13>so many times partying and the last in the final

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<v Speaker 13>game at the Riverfront that they had he wasn't allowed

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<v Speaker 13>to play and walk into the States, but they had

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<v Speaker 13>that big game at the end of Drew capacity clown

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<v Speaker 13>and he had me and invited me to play in

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<v Speaker 13>that celebrity game. The only had two disc jockeings that

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<v Speaker 13>I want you to be the so wonderful memories of

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<v Speaker 13>of the Pete Rose and uh, you know, the love

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<v Speaker 13>of thread this town had with with the hit king.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean it's you know, and all the joy and

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<v Speaker 13>all the happiness he gave him the Queen City.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, it's it's just.

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<v Speaker 13>Amazing and we love him.

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<v Speaker 12>And sympathy of course with his family and David his wife.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what, Jim talking to Jim Lear Barbara

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<v Speaker 1>about Pete Rose. There is nobody that I know that's

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<v Speaker 1>a bigger baseball fan than you. Uh many that are

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<v Speaker 1>probably would say, yeah, I'm right up there with But

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<v Speaker 1>I know you love to go to the games. You've

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<v Speaker 1>followed the Reds you've suffered and you've celebrated, and tonight

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<v Speaker 1>we're remembering. So thanks, thanks, thanks for chiming in. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that. Nancy, good evening, Welcome to the nightcap on

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred w l W.

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<v Speaker 3>As we remember Pete Rose.

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<v Speaker 14>By Gary Jets in a while started to reconnect on

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<v Speaker 14>such sad news. Sincere condolences to Pete's family and friends

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<v Speaker 14>and fellow ball players.

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<v Speaker 10>We had a Our.

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<v Speaker 14>Family had a special connection with Pete on many fronts.

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<v Speaker 14>My dad played ball with him before he went to

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<v Speaker 14>the major leagues, and our family business, we were a Beard.

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<v Speaker 14>We were the first and last Beard distributorship for who

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<v Speaker 14>to post shangling products and we sponsored all the teams

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<v Speaker 14>that Pete played on our distributorship did. My brother, Doug

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<v Speaker 14>was named after Pete because he was born on Pete

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<v Speaker 14>Rose's birthday. Each named Douglas Edward after Peter Edward. I

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<v Speaker 14>So lots of family connections, but again, just a sad

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<v Speaker 14>day for everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 14>He's being welcomed with open arms by many, like Joe Morgan,

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<v Speaker 14>others that have gone before us, my dad, my uncle,

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<v Speaker 14>all people that he played with. He wrote about his

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<v Speaker 14>days of playing, you know with my dad and and

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<v Speaker 14>my uncle. They're they're included in one of his books.

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<v Speaker 14>I just can't say enough good things.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, even.

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<v Speaker 14>Carolyn, his uh first wife. We knew her well when

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<v Speaker 14>she went ran the wagon wheel because obviously, being a

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of cross paths cross.

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, just a little, but my again, sincere condolences, and

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<v Speaker 14>may he rest in peace, and may those who those

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<v Speaker 14>who know and love him, you know, hopefully, as your

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<v Speaker 14>previous color mentioned, you know, hopefully now we see him

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<v Speaker 14>get into the Hall of Fame. But it's it's slowly

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<v Speaker 14>a shame that it took something like this to make

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<v Speaker 3>If it happens, well, I hope right now he's seeing

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<v Speaker 3>the Lord. Oh thank you. Keith and Dayton.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, Hi Gary, how you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing fine? What do you got?

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<v Speaker 8>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm staring at a Mizzuno black Mazzuno baseball bat with

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<v Speaker 4>Pete's autograph on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh nice, And.

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<v Speaker 4>He personally gave it to me. And this story goes

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<v Speaker 4>back some twenty two twenty three years ago. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I was telling your producer that I wanted to share

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<v Speaker 4>a story that would that that at least showed the

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<v Speaker 4>humanitarian quote unquote Christian side of him, even if he

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<v Speaker 4>was or wasn't. But in my in my association with

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<v Speaker 4>Pete during a few years, he was a very giving man,

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<v Speaker 4>uh to uh provide some things that you know that

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<v Speaker 4>were used to raise money for charities, you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>when we when we talk about the character issue, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I know we talked about the character issue regarding the

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<v Speaker 4>betting stuff, but you know, the the peat that I

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<v Speaker 4>got to know. Uh, I'm sorry, I'm just really upset

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<v Speaker 4>because this was a very big time.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, this is this is an emotional moment for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people, just the final, the finality of the

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<v Speaker 1>letting go of this guy that has so captivated their

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<v Speaker 1>interest in the Cincinnati Reads over all these years.

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<v Speaker 3>I totally get it, Keith.

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<v Speaker 4>So, I don't know if you remember who How McCoy was. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I was How McCoy's paper boy for the tait And

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<v Speaker 4>Daily News, and I had been I had been wanting

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<v Speaker 4>to tell How this story because this story is just amazing. Really,

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<v Speaker 4>how we met I owned a nightclub down in Delray

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<v Speaker 4>Beach in from about two thousand and two thousand and

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<v Speaker 4>four in Delray Beach, Florida, and a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>that would live in South Florida would know that Pete.

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<v Speaker 4>Pete did apparently a licensing deal with you know, restaurants

461
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<v Speaker 4>chain or something they opened. They had Pete Roses in

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<v Speaker 4>Boca Ratone. Okay, because Pete did a lot of time

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<v Speaker 4>down there. But I owned a nightclub in Delray Beach.

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<v Speaker 4>Was very very popular and uh, you couldn't get a

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<v Speaker 4>seat on the weekends. No, no tables were allowed to

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<v Speaker 4>be you know, uh you know, held or anything, just

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<v Speaker 4>because it was that popular. And one of my friends

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<v Speaker 4>came to me and said, you know, Keith, can you

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<v Speaker 4>can you pay a seat for me or a table

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<v Speaker 4>for me till ten? I'm like, you know that, I

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<v Speaker 4>never do that. She went, you know what, please trust

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<v Speaker 4>me on this. I promised it'll be worth it. So

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<v Speaker 4>I was already up on stage at the club. I

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<v Speaker 4>was the main performer. And I'm trying to make this

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<v Speaker 4>a short because I don't want to. I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to take a lot of time. But it was, it was,

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<v Speaker 4>It was butts and elbows is what it was in there.

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<v Speaker 4>And so about ten fifteen rolls around and finally she

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<v Speaker 4>gets there. She looks at me. She apologizes for run late,

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<v Speaker 4>but then she points to her left and two people

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<v Speaker 4>down from her was Pete. Okay, now you got to

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<v Speaker 4>understand something. You know, I grew up here in Dayton

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<v Speaker 4>I followed the big red machine like everybody else, and

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<v Speaker 4>Pete was my man.

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<v Speaker 3>And I even tried to.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, do I would switch hitter, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I tried to imitated stance and stuff. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>you know, ten years old. And so there is my

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<v Speaker 4>all time baseball hero looking at me while I'm up

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<v Speaker 4>on stage.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you ever get to meet it?

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<v Speaker 4>And they go hold on wall. Yeah. So so bottom

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<v Speaker 4>line is he goes, sits at the table, and I

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<v Speaker 4>went into high gear and I do a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>comedy bits and routines up on the stage. When when

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<v Speaker 4>when I'm up there, and by the time I had

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<v Speaker 4>done this one routine, Pete was laughing so hard that

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<v Speaker 4>that his drink came out.

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<v Speaker 6>Of his nose.

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<v Speaker 1>And people are just listen, Keith, I got other people

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<v Speaker 1>that want to share. But thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>doing this tonight. All right, all right, okay, all right,

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00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:37.079
<v Speaker 1>take care Brad in Indiana Memories of Pete Rose tonight

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<v Speaker 1>on the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 3>What's up with you?

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<v Speaker 12>How are you doing tonight?

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<v Speaker 3>We're doing fine? Talk to me.

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<v Speaker 15>Well, just you know, I was born in nineteen seventy eight,

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<v Speaker 15>so Pete Rose was, you know, one of the very

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<v Speaker 15>first players that I have remembered watching.

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<v Speaker 4>I still remember my parents taking me.

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<v Speaker 15>To a Red Padres game in eighty five, and I'm

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<v Speaker 15>always thankful for that because I got a chance to

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<v Speaker 15>keep Pete and you know, one of his final.

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<v Speaker 4>Two years of baseball.

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<v Speaker 15>But a really neat story is about ten years ago. Uh,

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<v Speaker 15>me and college roommates that we go to Cincinnati every

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<v Speaker 15>weekend or every every summer for a weekend of games,

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<v Speaker 15>and we go to a waffle house for breakfast, and

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<v Speaker 15>I had happened to have a Pete Roach shirt on

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<v Speaker 15>the you know, said still hustling shows him diving into

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<v Speaker 15>third base, and UH walked out of this waffle house

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<v Speaker 15>and we get ready to get in our vehicle to

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<v Speaker 15>go park to a head up the Great American and

526
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<v Speaker 15>uh there was a family got out and said you know,

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<v Speaker 15>Pete Bose is in that Holiday inn right now. And

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<v Speaker 15>I said, we thought they were joking. He said, no, no,

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<v Speaker 15>he is. So we walked We walked in there and

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<v Speaker 15>you know, he was talking to somebody. I wasn't gonna

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<v Speaker 15>hound him.

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<v Speaker 16>Uh.

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<v Speaker 15>We walked in there and he was just sitting himself

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<v Speaker 15>at a table, and Uh, I just went up and

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<v Speaker 15>introduced myself. Didn't ask for an autograph. I'm to the

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<v Speaker 15>age where autographs really aren't that big of a deal.

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<v Speaker 15>I'd rather just meet somebody and have my picture taken

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<v Speaker 15>with him. And uh, you know, I just asked for

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00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:18.359
<v Speaker 15>a photo, and you know, he just kind of engaged

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<v Speaker 15>in conversation with me, and we just kind of spoke

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<v Speaker 15>for probably four or five minutes, just about baseball in general.

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<v Speaker 15>And uh, you know, I think he had just went

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<v Speaker 15>out to uh Vegas for a big interview with Jim Day.

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<v Speaker 15>I think Fox Ohio did like a three or four

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<v Speaker 15>part series with him that they showed at that time.

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<v Speaker 15>And uh, yeah, I got Jim Day a free free

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<v Speaker 15>trip out to Vegas out of that whole de least six.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 15>But but anyway, it was just really neat to you know,

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<v Speaker 15>meet meet you know, one of my heroes growing up

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<v Speaker 15>and one of my dad you know favorite players. You know, yeah, you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably one of the younger people calling in right now

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<v Speaker 1>they can remember Pete Rose playing Brad.

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<v Speaker 3>But absolutely, thank you fans.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the Big Red Machine and all was Pete Rose.

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<v Speaker 1>Real quickly, let's go to Carl in Park Hills. You're

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<v Speaker 1>on the air, Carl on seven Hunter WLW.

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<v Speaker 17>Gary, thank you for doing this. This is journalism at

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<v Speaker 17>its best, and great job on coming in live tonight.

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<v Speaker 17>I've got a story about Pete. First of all, the

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<v Speaker 17>fact that he's from Sailor Park is just perfect. There's

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<v Speaker 17>no other neighborhood than the West Side.

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<v Speaker 6>Down by the river that Pete could have ever come from.

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<v Speaker 17>And Boldface Park should have thousands of flowers by tomorrow morning.

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<v Speaker 17>So anyway, I had an next girlfriend that was working

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<v Speaker 17>at a Japanese restaurant out near the airport in hebron Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 17>One night she came home and said, guess who I

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<v Speaker 17>serve tonight?

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<v Speaker 6>And I said who? And she said Pete Rose and

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<v Speaker 6>his wife. And I said, wow, how was that?

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<v Speaker 17>And she said, well, he was wearing a keel and

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<v Speaker 17>Fusha track.

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<v Speaker 6>Suit and tennis shoes.

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<v Speaker 17>And this is a traditional Japanese restaurant that the owners

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<v Speaker 17>of the Coyota Corporation actually had installed into their headquarters,

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00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:07.640
<v Speaker 17>into their national headquarters. And she said, Pete came in

577
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:10.519
<v Speaker 17>and sat down with his wife and she asked, you

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<v Speaker 17>know what they wanted, and he ordered and then she

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<v Speaker 17>brought out this traditional Japanese meal with the chopsticks and

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<v Speaker 17>the tea, and he said.

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<v Speaker 6>Honey, you got a fork anywhere back there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Pete was not a chopsticks guy. There's no doubt

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Thanks Carl, I appreciate that. Wild Man Walker.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a break in about a minute, so I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to call back after the news at ten.

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<v Speaker 3>Will do there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there was nobody I would rather talk to

588
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<v Speaker 1>about Pete Rose than one Dennis Wildman Walker, and we

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<v Speaker 1>will do that after the break, which we have to

590
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:57.559
<v Speaker 1>take now on seven Hunter WLW. It is a Monday night.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not the night camp we had planned, but

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<v Speaker 1>again the best laid plans and all of that. Gary

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Walker with you and for the next hour more

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<v Speaker 1>of your memories of Pete Rose, the wild Man and

595
00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:16.799
<v Speaker 1>some more surprises, I'm sure between now and eleven o'clock

596
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:22.960
<v Speaker 1>as we continue on seven hundred WLW bikes. Who passed

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<v Speaker 1>at the age of eighty three earlier today is home

598
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<v Speaker 1>in Las Vegas from my friend Mitch, who's in law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 1>He writes, in the late nineties, I was working security

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<v Speaker 1>at Riverdowns on Kellogg Avenue bel Terra. Today I saw

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<v Speaker 1>Pete sitting with another guy all by themselves at a

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<v Speaker 1>table on the second level with a stack of cash.

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<v Speaker 1>So I walked over and introduced myself and asked him

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<v Speaker 1>for an autograph. Long story short, I got his autograph

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<v Speaker 1>on the back of a racing form. How funny. Thanks Mitch,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate your Sharon, and it's your turn to share again

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<v Speaker 1>for this hour. As we were Pete Rose, the hit King,

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00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Charlie Hussel, one of the greatest players ever to put

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<v Speaker 1>on a uniform in the entirety of Major League Baseball,

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<v Speaker 1>from the day that Abner Doubleday invented something that came

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<v Speaker 1>to be this game to now you think about in

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<v Speaker 1>the pantheon of greats in Major League Baseball, there's Ty Cobb,

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<v Speaker 1>who Pete Rose would best in his career. There's Babe Ruth,

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<v Speaker 1>There's lou gerrig there are names that are too numerous

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<v Speaker 1>for me to go through all of them. But in

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<v Speaker 1>that group of players, in that select group of players

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<v Speaker 1>that will always be cemented as the best of their

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00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:53.680
<v Speaker 1>times in their prime, Pete Rose is right there with

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<v Speaker 1>all of them, no question. Here's a guy who loved

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Rose more than anybody I know, really, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>outside of a blood relative. Wild Man Walker joining us

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<v Speaker 1>to remember Pete Rose. Wild Man, Well, what's up there, Garry, Jeff?

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to me? How are you feeling tonight? What are

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<v Speaker 1>you feeling, How are you remembering Pete? How do you

625
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:24.039
<v Speaker 1>think Pete should be remembered? How Willie be remembered? And

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<v Speaker 1>is this the time now where they will consider actually

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<v Speaker 1>admitting him to the Baseball Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 18>Well, first off, I'm pretty numb because when I heard

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<v Speaker 18>the news, I was on the West Side this evening

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<v Speaker 18>having dinner at Ron's Roost, ironically on the West Side,

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<v Speaker 18>and just before I got into the Deer Park area,

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<v Speaker 18>my friend it was with me, it popped up on

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<v Speaker 18>her phone that Pete had passed, and the first I

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<v Speaker 18>looked at it and said, I've seen this crap before,

635
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<v Speaker 18>And then it was like three or four different sites

636
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:54.880
<v Speaker 18>were reporting that he had passed, and then of course

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<v Speaker 18>my phone started blowing up and everybody was calling me.

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<v Speaker 18>So heard it was confirmed, And of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 18>I listened to WLW seven thirty and eight and eight

640
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:08.719
<v Speaker 18>thirty two and one Shawn Gallagher who reported this is

641
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:10.920
<v Speaker 18>a classic case of somebody not doing their homework.

642
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:11.719
<v Speaker 3>Scary Jeff.

643
00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:14.599
<v Speaker 18>He reported that Pete Rose came back as Reds manager

644
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:17.840
<v Speaker 18>in nineteen eighty six. That's wrong. It was nineteen eighty four,

645
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:19.519
<v Speaker 18>August sixteenth.

646
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:19.960
<v Speaker 6>Okay, number one.

647
00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:21.800
<v Speaker 18>And then he goes on I think at nine o'clock

648
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:23.239
<v Speaker 18>and call it him Johnny Hustle.

649
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:25.079
<v Speaker 12>How does a guy like this have a job?

650
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:28.840
<v Speaker 18>Is it that hard to do your to do your homework? Pete, Peter,

651
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:32.800
<v Speaker 18>It's obviousness. It was obvious, scary Jeff wild even around

652
00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:34.440
<v Speaker 18>and Pete Rose got banned.

653
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:37.599
<v Speaker 1>Wild Man, I just thought that was crap. Wild Man.

654
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:40.360
<v Speaker 1>We're not here to lambast other people. We're here to

655
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:43.239
<v Speaker 1>honor Pete. And I understand what it was.

656
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:45.039
<v Speaker 18>Well, you're doing when you do a story, you gotta

657
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:48.719
<v Speaker 18>get it right. Okay, But again talking about Pete, let's

658
00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:50.079
<v Speaker 18>talk about the Baseball Hall of Fame.

659
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:51.719
<v Speaker 6>Just before Pete passed.

660
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:54.800
<v Speaker 18>I saw I saw some comments from him that said,

661
00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:56.920
<v Speaker 18>you know, really, I don't know if I really care

662
00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:58.519
<v Speaker 18>about it, because it's for the families.

663
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:01.159
<v Speaker 3>It's for the families to enjoy and the fans to enjoy.

664
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:04.000
<v Speaker 18>And I don't really think Major League Baseball will put

665
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:05.280
<v Speaker 18>him in I don't think they will.

666
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:06.559
<v Speaker 3>I do not think they will.

667
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:10.000
<v Speaker 18>The Reds need to have a funeral at the ballpark

668
00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:12.880
<v Speaker 18>because they're going to be so many people that want

669
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.079
<v Speaker 18>to pay their respects. They did have the funeral for

670
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:17.559
<v Speaker 18>the late Tom Browning there, so why not do it

671
00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:20.760
<v Speaker 18>for Pete. I'm just hoping if they do this, someone

672
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:23.079
<v Speaker 18>from Major League Baseball better not be there because we

673
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:25.079
<v Speaker 18>don't want them mucking it up. And here you got

674
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:28.639
<v Speaker 18>ESPN and all these other talking heads tonight. They're not

675
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:32.119
<v Speaker 18>even talking about Pete's great career with numbers that people

676
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:35.320
<v Speaker 18>will never ever, ever ever surpass forty two to fifty six,

677
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:38.480
<v Speaker 18>will will never be broken, will never be broken. And

678
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:41.639
<v Speaker 18>they're talking about his gambling, his gambling when they're attached

679
00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:44.440
<v Speaker 18>to the hip major League Baseball, to every gambling site

680
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:47.400
<v Speaker 18>in the country. It's so hypocritical, it really is. I mean,

681
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:49.760
<v Speaker 18>we're talking about how great demand was and what he

682
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:54.880
<v Speaker 18>did for baseball, what he did for baseball, What did

683
00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:56.840
<v Speaker 18>he do for you?

684
00:36:56.960 --> 00:36:57.679
<v Speaker 6>What he do for me?

685
00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:01.400
<v Speaker 18>He was great to me, man cherished the time that

686
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:03.599
<v Speaker 18>guy had around him. Just recently when he was in town,

687
00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:05.800
<v Speaker 18>when he signed a bunch of books for me, I

688
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:07.519
<v Speaker 18>mean recently.

689
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:08.519
<v Speaker 6>And we got a video.

690
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:12.079
<v Speaker 18>From him from my upcoming documentary, which will just blow

691
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:15.280
<v Speaker 18>the doors off when you see the comments that he made.

692
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:17.559
<v Speaker 18>I mean, he was always great to me, even before

693
00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:19.280
<v Speaker 18>I even knew him. I mean, I don't know how

694
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:21.280
<v Speaker 18>many times I asked him for an autograph when I

695
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:23.159
<v Speaker 18>was a young kid, and he always signed for me,

696
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:26.639
<v Speaker 18>which was great. But he was a great guy. He

697
00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:30.039
<v Speaker 18>had his flaws. I've got my flaws. You've got your flaws,

698
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:32.440
<v Speaker 18>you know. But as a baseball player, and this is

699
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:34.320
<v Speaker 18>what I said in my first book, Gary Jeff, and

700
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:36.920
<v Speaker 18>I'm sure you recall I could care less what Pete

701
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:39.360
<v Speaker 18>Rose did off the field, I really could, you know.

702
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:41.840
<v Speaker 18>I admired him as a baseball player for how he

703
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:44.280
<v Speaker 18>played the game, and he played it right. I mean,

704
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:47.519
<v Speaker 18>the Hall of Fame is for stats, s T A

705
00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:48.039
<v Speaker 18>T S.

706
00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:48.440
<v Speaker 4>Stats.

707
00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:51.719
<v Speaker 18>It's not for choir boys. Babe Bruce wasn't a choir boy.

708
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:54.880
<v Speaker 18>Chris Speaker was an a choir boy. Ty Cobb wasn't

709
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:57.840
<v Speaker 18>acchoiir boy, I can go down the list thought, you know,

710
00:37:58.000 --> 00:37:59.480
<v Speaker 18>I go down the list and give you awn kind

711
00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:03.159
<v Speaker 18>of guys. You know, skeletons in their closet. You know,

712
00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:04.840
<v Speaker 18>Pete should be in the Hall, no.

713
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:06.840
<v Speaker 6>Doubt about it. But I don't think major League Baseball

714
00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:07.119
<v Speaker 6>is going.

715
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:07.400
<v Speaker 1>To do it.

716
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:08.039
<v Speaker 6>I really don't.

717
00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:08.880
<v Speaker 3>Wild Man.

718
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I can tell that you are very emotional, and I'm

719
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:13.840
<v Speaker 1>not surprised, and I invited you to call in tonight,

720
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:17.440
<v Speaker 1>and I appreciate you. You're putting your two cents worth.

721
00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Then I believe he belongs in the Hall of Fame

722
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:25.079
<v Speaker 1>as well. And whether that happens or not, we will see.

723
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Time will tell. It is to be written.

724
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:30.880
<v Speaker 18>Yet, Well, I just hoped that the Reds, like I said,

725
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:33.679
<v Speaker 18>to have the funeral at the ballpark, get Pete's family

726
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:36.719
<v Speaker 18>so desired because it'll be great. It'll be a great turnout.

727
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:39.880
<v Speaker 18>Reds fans from everywhere would turnout, and well they should.

728
00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:42.920
<v Speaker 18>I mean, I like the comments that Bob Castellini just

729
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.480
<v Speaker 18>recently came out and talked about the passing and ip.

730
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:48.360
<v Speaker 18>Those were great comments, they really were. I mean, Pete

731
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:50.239
<v Speaker 18>Rose is the Cincinnati Reds.

732
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:51.079
<v Speaker 6>He always will be.

733
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:53.119
<v Speaker 18>Pete Rose is the Cincinnati Reds.

734
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:57.079
<v Speaker 1>God bless you, wild Man. Thank you for sharing tonight. Man,

735
00:38:57.159 --> 00:39:01.519
<v Speaker 1>that was some blood letting brick in West Virginia. Hello,

736
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:03.480
<v Speaker 1>you were on the air on the night Cap on

737
00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:06.559
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred w l W with our fingers on the

738
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:07.320
<v Speaker 1>dump button.

739
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:11.920
<v Speaker 9>Now, hey, Gary, Jeff so hard to find, hard to

740
00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:16.159
<v Speaker 9>follow that bringing docious guy there. But anyway, a lifelong

741
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:20.840
<v Speaker 9>Pirates fan calling in from West Virginia. Yeah, and Pete

742
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:24.039
<v Speaker 9>Rose was one of my heroes back in the day.

743
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:31.199
<v Speaker 9>Wellsburg Little League. We learned or we were taught from

744
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:35.760
<v Speaker 9>Pete out of dive and slide in the second base,

745
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:39.559
<v Speaker 9>third day, hope plate whatever it is, and we also

746
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:45.519
<v Speaker 9>learned how to switch it because of Pete. So whatever

747
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:48.360
<v Speaker 9>you guys think it is fine. I think he deserves

748
00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:50.719
<v Speaker 9>to be in the Hall of Fame. The writers are

749
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:54.480
<v Speaker 9>all they're old. That's old white guys who vote.

750
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:54.719
<v Speaker 16>On that thing.

751
00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:57.920
<v Speaker 9>They're out of date. And Pete needs to be in

752
00:39:57.960 --> 00:39:58.559
<v Speaker 9>the Hall of Fame.

753
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:00.760
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know that's just my.

754
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Whole thing is. Thank you, Eric, My whole thing is

755
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:09.559
<v Speaker 1>Bargie and Maddy's dead. Pete Rose is dead. I mean,

756
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:14.800
<v Speaker 1>what are you holding off for? Dick from Dayton. Good evening, sir.

757
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:17.599
<v Speaker 19>Oh, Jerry Jeff. Good to talk to you.

758
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:19.599
<v Speaker 3>Hey, this is important, Dick.

759
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:23.639
<v Speaker 1>Dick's birthday is the same as Pete's April fourteenth.

760
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:26.000
<v Speaker 19>Jerry Jeff and I want to say something about him,

761
00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:30.679
<v Speaker 19>Jerry Jeff. For the years that you you loved Dave

762
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:36.440
<v Speaker 19>and I, but you told every every birthday that he

763
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:40.519
<v Speaker 19>and it was just so neat. Nobody has done as

764
00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:43.920
<v Speaker 19>much as you like Dave and everybody. I think, Jerry

765
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:48.679
<v Speaker 19>Jeff in my heart, that he should be inducted to

766
00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:52.000
<v Speaker 19>the Hall of Fake He was a leader for those Reds.

767
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:55.119
<v Speaker 19>Jerry Jeff and I want to say something. He is

768
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:57.719
<v Speaker 19>great and they need to put him in.

769
00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:00.920
<v Speaker 20>It's a sad day and baseball hits week.

770
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:02.199
<v Speaker 3>Jerry Jeff, Well, Dick.

771
00:41:02.559 --> 00:41:05.519
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for being a part of our remembrance tonight,

772
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:11.159
<v Speaker 1>A little memorial ceremony in the wake of Pete Rose's

773
00:41:11.199 --> 00:41:13.800
<v Speaker 1>death today is passing at the age of eighty three.

774
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:18.199
<v Speaker 1>George Vogel, Good evening, and thank you for bringing some

775
00:41:18.320 --> 00:41:22.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of semblance of sanity to this conversation tonight about

776
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:26.000
<v Speaker 1>one of the greatest baseball players that ever played or lived,

777
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:29.840
<v Speaker 1>and we're talking, of course about number fourteen.

778
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:33.559
<v Speaker 3>How you doing, George, Oh, doing well, doing well.

779
00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:38.360
<v Speaker 20>It's definitely a sad day in this greater Cincinnati area,

780
00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:44.079
<v Speaker 20>Reds Land, Reds country. It's a tough one, and you know,

781
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:48.320
<v Speaker 20>it's certainly a polarizing figure for a while. But when

782
00:41:48.320 --> 00:41:50.199
<v Speaker 20>you look back at everything the guy did for the

783
00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:55.440
<v Speaker 20>Cincinnati Reds, what he did for baseball, the notoriety he

784
00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:58.079
<v Speaker 20>brought to the Reds in the city and the team

785
00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:02.159
<v Speaker 20>and his leg see and everything else, it's it's a

786
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:06.800
<v Speaker 20>sad day and skill just very very What upsets me

787
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:09.199
<v Speaker 20>is the Hall of Fame piece of it. He should

788
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:10.599
<v Speaker 20>have been in before this happened.

789
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Can you can you give me some more personal perspectives

790
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:18.519
<v Speaker 1>of Pete and the time, if any, that you had

791
00:42:18.559 --> 00:42:21.360
<v Speaker 1>spent with him over the years or even more recently.

792
00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:26.599
<v Speaker 20>George, Yeah, he was He was obviously very funny guy,

793
00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:30.840
<v Speaker 20>very interesting guy, had stories you know, longer than his

794
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:34.840
<v Speaker 20>arms to tell all day. And he loved when he

795
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:37.880
<v Speaker 20>was manager and when I started in television and reporting

796
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:43.000
<v Speaker 20>and we still had the REPI Games on WLW Television WLWT,

797
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:46.199
<v Speaker 20>and we did red shows. We did something called the

798
00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:50.119
<v Speaker 20>Pete and Johnny Show with Pete and Johnny Bench, and

799
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:52.519
<v Speaker 20>I was one of the guys that would go out

800
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:55.800
<v Speaker 20>and shoot these segments with them, and we'd be different

801
00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:59.679
<v Speaker 20>parts of the city, you know, different players homes or whatever,

802
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:03.039
<v Speaker 20>do all these away from the field spots. And we

803
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:06.239
<v Speaker 20>shot one spot one time. And this is this is

804
00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:08.599
<v Speaker 20>what people would tell you about Pete because he treated

805
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:12.079
<v Speaker 20>us young members of the media the same way. He'd

806
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:14.760
<v Speaker 20>sit in the office and just talk to us about

807
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:19.239
<v Speaker 20>anything for hours, all the time in the world. We

808
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:21.920
<v Speaker 20>were out shooting in Norwood at this little carry out,

809
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:25.639
<v Speaker 20>this convenience store, and you know, Pete Rose and Johnny

810
00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:29.519
<v Speaker 20>Bench are in there on a afternoon of the game day,

811
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:31.679
<v Speaker 20>getting ready to head down to the ballpark, shooting this

812
00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:34.840
<v Speaker 20>video in this little store on the corner. And you know,

813
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:37.519
<v Speaker 20>people were coming in going, wait a minute, what are

814
00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:41.400
<v Speaker 20>these two doing here? And Pete Rose sat there and

815
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:44.719
<v Speaker 20>talked to people in that convenience. We're done shooting. He

816
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:47.079
<v Speaker 20>can go down to the ballpark. It's probably about two

817
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:49.800
<v Speaker 20>two thirty. He probably wants to get down there. Around

818
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:53.159
<v Speaker 20>three point thirty. He spent easily an hour sitting in

819
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:55.840
<v Speaker 20>there talking to the lady who runs the place, having

820
00:43:55.880 --> 00:43:58.119
<v Speaker 20>an ice cream with a kid, and just talking to people.

821
00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:03.440
<v Speaker 20>And he was, you know, certainly had his faults, but

822
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:07.719
<v Speaker 20>he was he was really good and really a man

823
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:09.480
<v Speaker 20>of the people, so to speak.

824
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:12.960
<v Speaker 1>No doubt, And I've heard that time and time again.

825
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:16.960
<v Speaker 1>My only experience with Pete in person in a in

826
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:20.320
<v Speaker 1>an interpersonal situation was an interview he was doing some

827
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:25.079
<v Speaker 1>charity thing with the then Cincinnati Mighty Ducks at the

828
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:29.000
<v Speaker 1>time out at the Old Gardens and there was some

829
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:31.480
<v Speaker 1>charity thing he was involved when and he came into

830
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:33.559
<v Speaker 1>the studio in the Fox when I was on in

831
00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:36.840
<v Speaker 1>the afternoons, and I found him to be one of

832
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:40.960
<v Speaker 1>the most just engaging people personally to talk.

833
00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:44.760
<v Speaker 3>To in the world. I mean, yes, he had that.

834
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.679
<v Speaker 1>He gave that impression to everyone that he came into

835
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:51.199
<v Speaker 1>contact with who had an open mind and said, Okay,

836
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll just talk to this guy. What's he all about?

837
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:58.280
<v Speaker 1>And he was just as normal and as down to

838
00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:02.039
<v Speaker 1>earth as anybody else you could imagine. And it was

839
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:04.880
<v Speaker 1>just like a conversation with two old friends. And I'd

840
00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:06.239
<v Speaker 1>never met him before.

841
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:08.199
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's how he was.

842
00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:10.920
<v Speaker 20>And but you know, you get him on the field,

843
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:15.159
<v Speaker 20>and he was more competitive than probably anyone I've ever seen.

844
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I think I'd say, I'd say that Michael Jordan probably

845
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:21.599
<v Speaker 1>comes as close to Pete Rose as anything when it

846
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:23.199
<v Speaker 1>comes to a competitive nature.

847
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:27.599
<v Speaker 20>Yes, when you when when you know you're running full

848
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:31.159
<v Speaker 20>speed ahead over a catcher to decide an All Star game,

849
00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:35.679
<v Speaker 20>albeit in his hometown, that's a competitive son of a

850
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:38.840
<v Speaker 20>gun right there. And they said in his high school

851
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:41.920
<v Speaker 20>playing days in football, they said he was one of

852
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:43.920
<v Speaker 20>the hardest hitters this city he's ever seen as a

853
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:46.639
<v Speaker 20>high school football player. I believe it because he was

854
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:48.400
<v Speaker 20>he was driven.

855
00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:48.639
<v Speaker 9>Man.

856
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean it proves one thing that that was

857
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:56.360
<v Speaker 1>one hard head, because that guy, that guy would run

858
00:45:56.400 --> 00:45:59.559
<v Speaker 1>through us through a brick wall at sixty miles an hour.

859
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Like I said said earlier, all the time when he

860
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:04.519
<v Speaker 1>was in a competitive situation on the field.

861
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:09.079
<v Speaker 20>Yes, and I I that hardhead didn't serve him well

862
00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:10.880
<v Speaker 20>when it came to you know, and then they call

863
00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:14.000
<v Speaker 20>them for what happened with the betting thing. But I

864
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:17.400
<v Speaker 20>do feel like, you know, while he mishandled it for

865
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:21.880
<v Speaker 20>a decade or so, I feel like baseball pretty well mishandled.

866
00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:22.440
<v Speaker 6>It for the past decade.

867
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:25.039
<v Speaker 20>I mean, at some point, I get it, you got

868
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:27.800
<v Speaker 20>this hard and past rule and he's out of baseball.

869
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:29.719
<v Speaker 20>But the Hall of Fame thing was a little separate

870
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:32.320
<v Speaker 20>that that should not have been involved in this, but

871
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:35.639
<v Speaker 20>it was. But at some point, don't those people look

872
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:40.559
<v Speaker 20>back and say, Okay, enough is enough. This guy has

873
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:43.280
<v Speaker 20>more legitimate hits than any player in the history of

874
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:44.079
<v Speaker 20>major leagues.

875
00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:46.599
<v Speaker 3>Because George's Hall of Fame.

876
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:49.880
<v Speaker 1>George, you have been in the business, and we're in

877
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:52.280
<v Speaker 1>the business long enough. I've been in the business long

878
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:58.039
<v Speaker 1>enough to know that those wrongly self righteous sobs will

879
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:02.480
<v Speaker 1>never bend or break because they think there I don't

880
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:06.000
<v Speaker 1>know that there's some kind of hierarchy and in the

881
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Pope's quart or something. Many of those writers who vote

882
00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:14.239
<v Speaker 1>are just so high on their own pedestals that they

883
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:15.679
<v Speaker 1>can't see their butt.

884
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:19.239
<v Speaker 20>So yeah, it's it's something that should have been uh,

885
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:22.760
<v Speaker 20>should have been rectified by now, and it's it's just

886
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:26.719
<v Speaker 20>a shame. This day is tom and you know paints

887
00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:30.840
<v Speaker 20>time's in Cooperstown, were you know, sitting at tables signing

888
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:34.880
<v Speaker 20>autographs for people as opposed to being up on that

889
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:38.079
<v Speaker 20>stage and and and giving his acceptance speech into that

890
00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:41.119
<v Speaker 20>great Hall of Fame, George still called great Hall of Fame,

891
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:43.639
<v Speaker 20>but it'd be a lot greater if they had the

892
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:45.000
<v Speaker 20>all time hit leader in there.

893
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:48.039
<v Speaker 1>George, my friend Rageous text me and said, if there

894
00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:49.840
<v Speaker 1>is no Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame, there

895
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:52.199
<v Speaker 1>is no Hall of Fame. I appreciate your time, sir,

896
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:55.639
<v Speaker 1>and your knowledge and your perspective.

897
00:47:55.840 --> 00:47:57.679
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, thanks for having me.

898
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:01.480
<v Speaker 1>You bet you Chris and been waiting a long time.

899
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:03.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. We've got a lot of people on the line.

900
00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a quick comment here before we go

901
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:05.960
<v Speaker 1>to break?

902
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:11.880
<v Speaker 21>Yes, I do, Gary, Jeff a great show. My understanding

903
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:13.760
<v Speaker 21>is in order for Pete to get in the Hall

904
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:15.719
<v Speaker 21>of Fame, they would have to put Shoe with Joe

905
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:18.079
<v Speaker 21>Jackson in first Have you heard that?

906
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:19.880
<v Speaker 3>You know what?

907
00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:23.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm all in favor. I am in favor of second chances.

908
00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm in favor of forgiveness. And after all this time,

909
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:33.719
<v Speaker 1>don't these two legendary players belong in a place of

910
00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:36.320
<v Speaker 1>honor for their exploits on the field.

911
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:39.679
<v Speaker 9>Yes, they do, and thanks for.

912
00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:44.599
<v Speaker 12>Thanks for letting me chime in paint the town red, my.

913
00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:49.440
<v Speaker 3>Friend, indeed, paint the town a red.

914
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Pete Rose is gone, and we will spend the next

915
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:58.639
<v Speaker 1>half hour or so remembering Pete Rose. The floor is

916
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:03.119
<v Speaker 1>open and you were more than welcome to continue and

917
00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:08.840
<v Speaker 1>to hold and to contribute. Five one, three, big one

918
00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:11.679
<v Speaker 1>remembering Pete Rose. On a special night cap on seven

919
00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:13.920
<v Speaker 1>hundred WLW.

920
00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:17.199
<v Speaker 5>He was known as Charlie Hussel and newest member of

921
00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:20.239
<v Speaker 5>the Reds Hall of Fame, Peter Edward.

922
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:24.960
<v Speaker 22>Don't wait, I don't wait, Do I die, no change

923
00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:27.960
<v Speaker 22>of heart and put me on the list, and and

924
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:28.800
<v Speaker 22>I go from there.

925
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:31.760
<v Speaker 3>But that you know, I can't blame him.

926
00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:33.440
<v Speaker 6>Brett, because I'm the one that screwed up.

927
00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:34.480
<v Speaker 23>I'm not going to.

928
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:37.920
<v Speaker 22>Sit here on your show and blame baseball because I'm suspended.

929
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:41.679
<v Speaker 22>I think the suspension is too long. If you want

930
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:44.679
<v Speaker 22>to know the truth, you know I paid my time.

931
00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:48.119
<v Speaker 22>I put the time in. But I still go around

932
00:49:48.199 --> 00:49:51.159
<v Speaker 22>this country. I'm the hit king, as you know, and

933
00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:55.719
<v Speaker 22>I do know that I do talk positive about the game.

934
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:59.719
<v Speaker 22>There's some great, great young players in the game of baseball,

935
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:03.559
<v Speaker 22>and I've brother concentrate on those guys as opposed to

936
00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:06.159
<v Speaker 22>the guys that beat their wives, the guys that get

937
00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:09.199
<v Speaker 22>drunk every night, the guys that do this or do

938
00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:11.800
<v Speaker 22>the bad things. There's too many good guys playing the

939
00:50:11.800 --> 00:50:15.320
<v Speaker 22>game of baseball, and there's too many good players for

940
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:17.360
<v Speaker 22>me to bad mouth the game of baseball.

941
00:50:18.679 --> 00:50:24.320
<v Speaker 1>God bless him. Pete Rose has passed. Brandon Trotwood. You've

942
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:27.800
<v Speaker 1>been waiting quite a while, my friend. Finally a chance

943
00:50:27.880 --> 00:50:29.960
<v Speaker 1>to share your Pete Rose memories.

944
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:34.559
<v Speaker 16>So well, you're a baseball bar I fucking grissy, eat

945
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:38.360
<v Speaker 16>and stuff and I'm done. I fell with a lot

946
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:41.119
<v Speaker 16>of Marty brought to me, and Marty was said, I

947
00:50:41.360 --> 00:50:43.519
<v Speaker 16>have you look at Pete Rose?

948
00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:45.320
<v Speaker 24>Is video that?

949
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:46.000
<v Speaker 10>I said, no?

950
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:50.199
<v Speaker 13>And I number A stucke I have?

951
00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:52.840
<v Speaker 6>Is a statue.

952
00:50:52.159 --> 00:51:02.360
<v Speaker 25>A lift that's that one play he got safe on base? Yeah,

953
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:05.559
<v Speaker 25>I look at that Vida like my number has to

954
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:07.400
<v Speaker 25>change to his number.

955
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:10.599
<v Speaker 16>So I fell in love with Pete Rose.

956
00:51:11.039 --> 00:51:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you so much for sharing that story. Jerry

957
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:18.119
<v Speaker 1>and Wilder Kentucky. You're on the special Nightcap Remembering Pete

958
00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Rose on seven hundred WLW. What is your Pete Rose story,

959
00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:24.480
<v Speaker 1>if any?

960
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:27.960
<v Speaker 26>I have a couple of personal stories. First of all,

961
00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:31.159
<v Speaker 26>you played with my band and a benefit strange brew

962
00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:35.760
<v Speaker 26>years ago. Oh yeah, you sang a song with us,

963
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:39.360
<v Speaker 26>You sang Turned the Page. But anyway, I was in

964
00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:42.360
<v Speaker 26>the army in four seventy eight engineers with Pete and

965
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:45.199
<v Speaker 26>one day he came in. We were working on a

966
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:48.199
<v Speaker 26>jeep and he came underneath of the jeep and he said, Gifford,

967
00:51:48.280 --> 00:51:51.920
<v Speaker 26>you got to try this. It's my homemade dandelion wine. Well,

968
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:53.920
<v Speaker 26>I took a drink of it and I had to

969
00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:56.559
<v Speaker 26>actually got a headache and had to play that night.

970
00:51:57.079 --> 00:51:59.599
<v Speaker 26>So I condemned him for that part, but we laughed

971
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:00.079
<v Speaker 26>about it.

972
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:01.920
<v Speaker 3>What year? What year was this?

973
00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:06.719
<v Speaker 26>Oh I got I got out in nineteen seventy two.

974
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:10.039
<v Speaker 3>Well, he wasn't on the he wasn't in the army

975
00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:11.159
<v Speaker 3>in nineteen seventy two.

976
00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:15.639
<v Speaker 26>He was in the reserves. He has gotten out about

977
00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:16.159
<v Speaker 26>two years.

978
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:17.159
<v Speaker 6>Maybe I got out.

979
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:17.679
<v Speaker 3>In seventy two.

980
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:20.440
<v Speaker 26>It was probably sixty eight, sixty nine, but we were

981
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:21.400
<v Speaker 26>in for six years.

982
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:25.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, but he went in after the sixty three season. Anyway,

983
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:27.039
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, Yeah.

984
00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:29.159
<v Speaker 26>So what he did was we had a semi pro

985
00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:32.079
<v Speaker 26>pitcher who threw ninety five miles an hour and I

986
00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:34.119
<v Speaker 26>could not I tried to catch him and I couldn't

987
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:36.719
<v Speaker 26>do it, but he said Pete would keep going. He

988
00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:38.760
<v Speaker 26>would go to Pete and go, you know what, you

989
00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:41.559
<v Speaker 26>could never hit me. And now this pitcher, I won't

990
00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:43.760
<v Speaker 26>give his name, but he pitched with Jimmy O'Toole and

991
00:52:43.800 --> 00:52:47.880
<v Speaker 26>semi pro. So anyway, Pete gets mad. We go over

992
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:50.079
<v Speaker 26>to the ball field which is out there by Tower

993
00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:54.960
<v Speaker 26>Park and Fort Thomas. And the very first pitch, right handed,

994
00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:59.119
<v Speaker 26>Pete put over the trees. The second pitch he turned

995
00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:03.119
<v Speaker 26>around left hand and put him over those trees. The

996
00:53:03.239 --> 00:53:06.320
<v Speaker 26>third pitch he hit with one hand and it went

997
00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:08.800
<v Speaker 26>over the infield would have went off the wall. And

998
00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:11.320
<v Speaker 26>the fourth pitch he went with the other hand and

999
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:12.559
<v Speaker 26>hit it and it would have went.

1000
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:14.119
<v Speaker 6>Off the wall. Four straight pitches.

1001
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:17.280
<v Speaker 26>So we named this pitcher rag Arm after that.

1002
00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:21.679
<v Speaker 1>But well, you know, I really can't blame rag Arm

1003
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:24.639
<v Speaker 1>for not being able to mess to Pete Rose.

1004
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:25.519
<v Speaker 3>Dude.

1005
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:27.880
<v Speaker 26>Pete was a great He was a great man. He

1006
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:31.880
<v Speaker 26>did kp served food, he did everything he was supposed

1007
00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:34.159
<v Speaker 26>to do. And I don't care about what he did.

1008
00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:37.039
<v Speaker 26>He was a great baseball player. Should be in there.

1009
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:39.480
<v Speaker 26>But anyway, thanks for your help, thanks for letting me on.

1010
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:41.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh thank you for calling in.

1011
00:53:41.360 --> 00:53:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Jerry chet in Northwest Indiana who was a Cubs fan,

1012
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:50.599
<v Speaker 1>And what could a Cubs fan say about Pete Rose?

1013
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:54.360
<v Speaker 8>Well, the same thing you guys auld say. You know,

1014
00:53:54.480 --> 00:53:57.280
<v Speaker 8>when I was growing up, and I'm an old guy,

1015
00:53:57.360 --> 00:53:59.280
<v Speaker 8>so I remember Pete Rose playing.

1016
00:53:59.920 --> 00:54:02.320
<v Speaker 4>You know, we'd be in the bleachers and he was

1017
00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:03.000
<v Speaker 4>a character.

1018
00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:04.800
<v Speaker 8>He was a good guy, even though we were a

1019
00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:08.679
<v Speaker 8>Cub fan, and he talked to us and like, we

1020
00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:12.000
<v Speaker 8>were talking about hitting one time before a game and

1021
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:15.000
<v Speaker 8>he told me how to get a better look at

1022
00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:18.679
<v Speaker 8>the pitch with both eyes and that's why he swung

1023
00:54:18.760 --> 00:54:22.679
<v Speaker 8>from the left side, the way his stance was. But anyway,

1024
00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:25.360
<v Speaker 8>he was just a good guy and he was one

1025
00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:27.679
<v Speaker 8>of the best players ever.

1026
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:28.280
<v Speaker 6>To play the game.

1027
00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:30.320
<v Speaker 8>And I don't care what kind of fan you are.

1028
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:35.559
<v Speaker 8>You see that. And you know, we always even as

1029
00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:39.800
<v Speaker 8>a young kid, seeing him, Charlie hustle. That's the way

1030
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:43.960
<v Speaker 8>you play the game, and you play to win. And

1031
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:48.079
<v Speaker 8>the thing is that he was a big part of

1032
00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:52.239
<v Speaker 8>baseball and he should have been in the Hall of

1033
00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:56.840
<v Speaker 8>Fame long time ago, and they but man, there's no doubt.

1034
00:54:57.280 --> 00:54:59.239
<v Speaker 8>But of course they wait till after he died. The

1035
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:02.239
<v Speaker 8>same thing, and Cargo. They did the same down thing

1036
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:05.440
<v Speaker 8>with Ron Sano for what reason? Who knows there, I

1037
00:55:05.480 --> 00:55:08.880
<v Speaker 8>mean a lot of theories, but who knows. YEA a

1038
00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:10.599
<v Speaker 8>year after he dies they put him in the Hall

1039
00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:11.239
<v Speaker 8>of Fame.

1040
00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:13.519
<v Speaker 3>By chet Chet. Maybe this is.

1041
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:17.400
<v Speaker 8>Pete was one of the best to play the game

1042
00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:18.400
<v Speaker 8>well chess.

1043
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Ever, I'm glad that you, as a Cubs fan from

1044
00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:26.480
<v Speaker 1>northwest Indiana, recognize what should be obvious to anybody who

1045
00:55:26.639 --> 00:55:30.639
<v Speaker 1>has ever watched a baseball game. Pete rose one of

1046
00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:34.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how many how many hands do you need

1047
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:40.079
<v Speaker 1>the counter fingers to where Pete is placed on the

1048
00:55:40.119 --> 00:55:40.960
<v Speaker 1>all time list?

1049
00:55:41.400 --> 00:55:41.920
<v Speaker 3>Top ten?

1050
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Easy, It's just a matter of you know, and how

1051
00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:56.719
<v Speaker 1>do you choose who's won and who's ten? Greg and Milford, Greg.

1052
00:55:56.800 --> 00:55:59.199
<v Speaker 27>Nice share guys. Nobody else would do this besides the

1053
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:03.760
<v Speaker 27>WI and U. Nineteen sixty six, we won the d

1054
00:56:03.880 --> 00:56:07.199
<v Speaker 27>League championship here in Ohio for our league, and we

1055
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:10.800
<v Speaker 27>got to go down to Crossley for a game and

1056
00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:13.840
<v Speaker 27>we had seats that were like two rows behind Red

1057
00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:17.800
<v Speaker 27>stug out. It was unbelievable. Right, he came out and

1058
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:21.159
<v Speaker 27>actually give us a little chat, you know, signed some

1059
00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:25.119
<v Speaker 27>stuff for us, right years after that, working in the

1060
00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:28.039
<v Speaker 27>electronics business, I got to go to Pete's house to

1061
00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:31.360
<v Speaker 27>do some work for him, and nicer people you could

1062
00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:33.599
<v Speaker 27>not find for real. I mean, they took us in

1063
00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:37.920
<v Speaker 27>very gracious. It was excellent. Man, What can you say.

1064
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:43.639
<v Speaker 27>I was a photographer at River Downs for a couple

1065
00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:47.719
<v Speaker 27>of years and one of my treasured pictures it's not Pete,

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00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:48.239
<v Speaker 27>but it's.

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00:56:48.079 --> 00:56:50.400
<v Speaker 3>Some semi an Rose jersey standing in.

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<v Speaker 27>Front of the race horses right with a with a

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00:56:55.559 --> 00:56:58.599
<v Speaker 27>a program in his hands. I said those to Pete

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00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:00.719
<v Speaker 27>and he just laughed like crazy.

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00:57:00.880 --> 00:57:01.480
<v Speaker 3>That's great.

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00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:07.000
<v Speaker 4>Well, it's a personal taking of a personal campaign to

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00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:08.039
<v Speaker 4>put him in the Hall of Fame.

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00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:09.400
<v Speaker 10>Folks, watch YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>It's coming all right, Greg, Thank you so much for

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00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:15.760
<v Speaker 1>sharing with us tonight on this special night, a somber

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00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:19.639
<v Speaker 1>night and a celebratory night at the same time, because

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00:57:19.639 --> 00:57:23.679
<v Speaker 1>we are celebrating the great work that was compiled by

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00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Pete Rose when he was here on this earth as

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00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:32.719
<v Speaker 1>a Major League Baseball All Pro, all time Chris and Cincinnati, Hello,

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00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:33.440
<v Speaker 1>you're on the air.

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00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:37.519
<v Speaker 12>He was the greatest player I ever watched.

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00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:40.840
<v Speaker 19>I remember watching him as sitting down in front of.

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00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:45.159
<v Speaker 6>The TV as a kid. It was unbelievable. I actually

1085
00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:48.559
<v Speaker 6>met him with my first wife.

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00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:51.039
<v Speaker 9>She has actually passed on.

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00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:55.199
<v Speaker 6>But he was very genuine and a great person.

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00:57:56.079 --> 00:57:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you for conveying that, and it's been the

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00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:04.920
<v Speaker 1>conveyance of many who have called in tonight. The stuff

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00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:09.320
<v Speaker 1>that happened off the field, that did not involve gambling

1091
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:13.719
<v Speaker 1>on baseball or anything nefarious, are the things that people

1092
00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:17.400
<v Speaker 1>are remembering most about Pete Rose, that had encounters with him,

1093
00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:22.679
<v Speaker 1>that knew him, And I think that's an important thing

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00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:26.840
<v Speaker 1>to do right now. We can talk about the hits

1095
00:58:26.880 --> 00:58:30.559
<v Speaker 1>and the games and the advance and the statistics and

1096
00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:36.239
<v Speaker 1>all of the victories that Charlie Hussell helped engineer for

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00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:41.159
<v Speaker 1>the Big Red Machine over the years, but at the

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00:58:41.239 --> 00:58:46.320
<v Speaker 1>end of a person's life, it's how they affected others'

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00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:51.920
<v Speaker 1>lives that they came into contact with. William in Kentucky,

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00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Pete Rose thought or a story for us.

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00:58:56.239 --> 00:58:59.280
<v Speaker 12>Hey, Hey, Gary, I enjoy your show. I just want

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00:58:59.320 --> 00:59:02.239
<v Speaker 12>to say I grew up watching Pee Rose on TV

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00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:04.320
<v Speaker 12>and I went to a few games.

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00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:06.760
<v Speaker 28>I just want to say I am one of a

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00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:10.599
<v Speaker 28>million kids out there that emulated him when it came

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00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:13.440
<v Speaker 28>to playing baseball. When you learned you learned to be

1107
00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:16.440
<v Speaker 28>a switch hitter, and when you was betting left handed,

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00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:18.519
<v Speaker 28>you were crafts down just like.

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00:59:18.599 --> 00:59:22.639
<v Speaker 12>Him, Bett just like him. And I loved the way

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00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:24.079
<v Speaker 12>he runs the bases.

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00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:25.079
<v Speaker 6>He when he's.

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00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:28.079
<v Speaker 12>Running the bases, after he runs first pass, first base,

1113
00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:31.400
<v Speaker 12>he would have his hand on his betting helmet to

1114
00:59:31.480 --> 00:59:33.760
<v Speaker 12>try to keep it on when he's done the second base.

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00:59:33.880 --> 00:59:37.639
<v Speaker 12>I just want to say, I enjoy that man playing baseball.

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00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:38.360
<v Speaker 3>Reckless.

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00:59:38.920 --> 00:59:41.119
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to say thank you, William, and that you

1118
00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:44.480
<v Speaker 1>said it very well. Reckless abandon. That's how Pete played

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00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:50.320
<v Speaker 1>the game. David, Hello, Yes, I men.

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00:59:50.440 --> 00:59:54.119
<v Speaker 23>Pete graduated in nineteen fifty eight and we played with

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00:59:54.159 --> 00:59:58.920
<v Speaker 23>this amateur team here in Lebanon, Ohio. Of course, it's

1122
00:59:58.920 --> 01:00:01.920
<v Speaker 23>a time no one knew Pete Rose. The coach of

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01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:05.039
<v Speaker 23>the team was a scout for the Reds named Tommy Thompson,

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01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:09.079
<v Speaker 23>and he tried to get him signed, but a couple

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01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:12.039
<v Speaker 23>of weeks later, after he played two or three with us,

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01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:18.000
<v Speaker 23>that's when a Pete uncle got him signed and then

1127
01:00:18.159 --> 01:00:21.000
<v Speaker 23>leaves later later on my name, my wife owned some

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01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:26.079
<v Speaker 23>horses here in leven and the harness horses, and I

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01:00:26.119 --> 01:00:27.960
<v Speaker 23>got to know him a little bit from them too.

1130
01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:34.840
<v Speaker 23>I had won me June Love's June Bugs Dusty. My

1131
01:00:36.039 --> 01:00:39.960
<v Speaker 23>wife's name was June. Pete got a kick out of

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01:00:39.960 --> 01:00:40.960
<v Speaker 23>that one.

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01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, David, great memories for you as you remember your friend,

1134
01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:50.800
<v Speaker 1>and we remember the great Pete Rose. Tonight from my

1135
01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:53.960
<v Speaker 1>friend Squiggy Wiggins in Land in Ohio. Pete gave me

1136
01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:56.880
<v Speaker 1>enough chips that I really never have to work again.

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01:00:57.199 --> 01:01:02.679
<v Speaker 1>Pete made me hustle cute Nelson, Hello you are on

1138
01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:06.639
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WLW on a special nightcap remembering Pete Rose.

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01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:08.000
<v Speaker 3>Hello.

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01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:08.360
<v Speaker 6>Hello.

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01:01:09.320 --> 01:01:12.199
<v Speaker 7>I went to Western Ells High School with Pete Rose.

1142
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:16.920
<v Speaker 7>I got on the school bus coming up from Lower

1143
01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:21.679
<v Speaker 7>Dell High and they were warning me about those riverside

1144
01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:25.880
<v Speaker 7>kids and on the way to Western Hills and I

1145
01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:31.239
<v Speaker 7>got on the bus fresh from Saskatchewan, dressed like Jerry

1146
01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:34.599
<v Speaker 7>D Lewis, and I got on the bus and a

1147
01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:39.079
<v Speaker 7>wall of fist came from the back of the bus understandably,

1148
01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:43.280
<v Speaker 7>and the one that connected somebody said, Oh, don't mind him,

1149
01:01:43.320 --> 01:01:44.400
<v Speaker 7>that's Pete Rose.

1150
01:01:46.079 --> 01:01:49.480
<v Speaker 1>So your story is you got randomly sucker punched by

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01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:50.119
<v Speaker 1>Pete Rose.

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01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:55.559
<v Speaker 7>On all went on, he became I was the weirdest

1153
01:01:55.639 --> 01:02:00.000
<v Speaker 7>guy anybody ever saw at Western Hills and the only

1154
01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:03.079
<v Speaker 7>guy that stood up for me was Pete. And they

1155
01:02:03.119 --> 01:02:05.800
<v Speaker 7>all wanted I mean, there was gangs. I'm waiting for

1156
01:02:05.840 --> 01:02:08.480
<v Speaker 7>me every day, but Pete was right there with me.

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01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:15.559
<v Speaker 7>Later on, Let's see what happened to Pete and why

1158
01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:20.159
<v Speaker 7>he's not in is because of the photography session that

1159
01:02:20.199 --> 01:02:24.360
<v Speaker 7>we had on his big hit, and we wound up

1160
01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:27.280
<v Speaker 7>going to New York. If you remember, I happened to

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01:02:27.639 --> 01:02:33.599
<v Speaker 7>be one of the photographers that were officially took the

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01:02:34.280 --> 01:02:39.079
<v Speaker 7>picture of Pete, and while we were taking the picture,

1163
01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:44.119
<v Speaker 7>they handed him a bunch of phones for this big

1164
01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:48.960
<v Speaker 7>interview and was broadcast everywhere, and one of them said, Pete,

1165
01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:54.039
<v Speaker 7>it's the president. Well he grabbed the phone in confusion

1166
01:02:54.079 --> 01:02:58.960
<v Speaker 7>and he yelled how you're doing into the phone and

1167
01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:03.679
<v Speaker 7>it got grabbed the and loll Wagan on live. You

1168
01:03:03.719 --> 01:03:08.360
<v Speaker 7>know what, Nelson was left sputtering at what was less sputtering,

1169
01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:13.840
<v Speaker 7>And he always wanted to get a long hair, and

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01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:17.960
<v Speaker 7>by that time, Pete had long hair, the longest care

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01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:18.719
<v Speaker 7>in baseball.

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01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:21.840
<v Speaker 16>And you know, I know the.

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01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:24.800
<v Speaker 7>Reason you never hear about it is because nobody wants

1174
01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:25.639
<v Speaker 7>to hear the truth.

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01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:28.679
<v Speaker 1>Pete, Hey Nelson, I got to tell you this is

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01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:32.360
<v Speaker 1>perfect because this will end our remembrance of Pete Rose

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01:03:32.400 --> 01:03:36.360
<v Speaker 1>tonight with a piece of that Ronald Reagan interview that

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01:03:36.440 --> 01:03:41.119
<v Speaker 1>you just referenced. And to everyone who has chimed in

1179
01:03:41.199 --> 01:03:44.239
<v Speaker 1>tonight and shared their memories and their thoughts about the

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01:03:44.280 --> 01:03:47.639
<v Speaker 1>passing of Pete Rose, thank you very much. The show

1181
01:03:47.679 --> 01:03:52.079
<v Speaker 1>couldn't have happened without you. And there's more Nightcap ahead

1182
01:03:52.119 --> 01:03:56.639
<v Speaker 1>Gianna Masselli and also doctor John Huber makes a return

1183
01:03:56.760 --> 01:03:59.039
<v Speaker 1>as The Nightcap starts its eighth season.

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01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:00.800
<v Speaker 3>We leave you with.

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01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Ronald Reagan and Pete Rose on seven hundred WLW.

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01:04:05.559 --> 01:04:09.599
<v Speaker 24>Hello, Hello Date Rose, Yes, sir, here he is Charlie Hustle.

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01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:14.559
<v Speaker 29>Yes, sir, this is Ronald Reagan. Thank you nice talking

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01:04:14.599 --> 01:04:14.800
<v Speaker 29>to you.

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<v Speaker 24>Well, listen, I just wanted to say congratulations for breaking

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01:04:20.599 --> 01:04:24.960
<v Speaker 24>one of the most enduring records in sports history ty

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01:04:25.079 --> 01:04:29.519
<v Speaker 24>cops career hit record of four thousand and ninety one.

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01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:33.800
<v Speaker 24>And now, unless you've done something since I've heard the latest,

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01:04:34.280 --> 01:04:40.880
<v Speaker 24>you've made it four thousand and ninety three. So I've

1194
01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:44.000
<v Speaker 24>been rooting for you, and come to think of it,

1195
01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:47.519
<v Speaker 24>I used to also root for the fellow who wants

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01:04:47.519 --> 01:04:48.400
<v Speaker 24>hell that record.

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<v Speaker 22>Well, thank you very much for taking time out of

1198
01:04:51.239 --> 01:04:53.920
<v Speaker 22>your business schedule to call us, and we really appreciate it.

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01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:56.000
<v Speaker 29>And you missed a good ball game tonight.

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01:04:57.039 --> 01:05:01.840
<v Speaker 24>Well see you're ritt and the hustle of estab at

1201
01:05:01.920 --> 01:05:04.159
<v Speaker 24>you is one of the all time greats of the game.

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01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:06.199
<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you, Keen batting.

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01:05:06.280 --> 01:05:09.639
<v Speaker 24>I also had something to do with it. Well, today,

1204
01:05:10.079 --> 01:05:13.639
<v Speaker 24>your new record may be broken, but believe me, your

1205
01:05:13.719 --> 01:05:16.679
<v Speaker 24>reputation and legacy is secure, and I think it'll be

1206
01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:20.159
<v Speaker 24>a long time before someone is standing in the spot

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01:05:20.199 --> 01:05:21.039
<v Speaker 24>that you're standing in.

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<v Speaker 29>The Thank you very much. I could say that.

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01:05:26.239 --> 01:05:29.440
<v Speaker 24>With you, the Reds and the people of Cincinnati says

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01:05:29.599 --> 01:05:33.039
<v Speaker 24>all the best. It's been a pleasure talking with you. Indeed,

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01:05:33.039 --> 01:05:36.320
<v Speaker 24>we ought to do this more often. You know, those

1212
01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:38.400
<v Speaker 24>of us who are in the middle of our careers

1213
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:41.840
<v Speaker 24>can share tips on how to stay ahead of those

1214
01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:45.000
<v Speaker 24>younger folks who keep coming up on us from behind.

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01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:47.599
<v Speaker 22>Well, if you're been here at night, you know why

1216
01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:49.400
<v Speaker 22>we think this is a baseball capital of the world

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01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:50.519
<v Speaker 22>right here in Cincinnatiohi.

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01:05:53.079 --> 01:05:55.159
<v Speaker 24>I like and here that you've got a few friends

1219
01:05:55.159 --> 01:05:57.840
<v Speaker 24>there around you, and I won't keep you from them

1220
01:05:57.880 --> 01:06:04.400
<v Speaker 24>any longer. But again, and you've really given a lift

1221
01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:05.400
<v Speaker 24>to the whole country.

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01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:07.559
<v Speaker 29>Thank you very much, thank you. I really appreciate it.

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01:06:07.760 --> 01:06:10.320
<v Speaker 24>All right, good night, gun right, thank you.

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01:06:11.559 --> 01:06:15.480
<v Speaker 1>For thirtieth the night before the big vice presidential debate

1225
01:06:16.559 --> 01:06:20.880
<v Speaker 1>whatever uh. Talking to us for a few moments is

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01:06:21.039 --> 01:06:25.119
<v Speaker 1>cultural expert and lawful rights commentator, the author of the

1227
01:06:25.159 --> 01:06:29.880
<v Speaker 1>book Freedumb, That's Dumb, The Patriots Playbook to Restoring Your

1228
01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:34.039
<v Speaker 1>Rights and Freedom, which is, according to this only available

1229
01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:37.519
<v Speaker 1>on her website, which is Gianamusselli dot com. That's g

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01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I A N N A M I C E l

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<v Speaker 1>I dot com. Gianamusselli joins us for a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing, Gianna, Hello, thank.

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01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:54.000
<v Speaker 10>You for having me. I am fabulous.

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01:06:54.199 --> 01:06:54.360
<v Speaker 4>Yea.

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01:06:54.480 --> 01:06:57.039
<v Speaker 1>In this book, you detail and you and I have

1236
01:06:57.159 --> 01:07:00.199
<v Speaker 1>talked about this and a couple of the conversation that

1237
01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:05.159
<v Speaker 1>we've had in the past about people who do not

1238
01:07:05.519 --> 01:07:11.159
<v Speaker 1>understand what rights they actually have according to the Constitution.

1239
01:07:11.280 --> 01:07:14.440
<v Speaker 1>And it goes far beyond the right to speak your

1240
01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:19.719
<v Speaker 1>mind and worship freely and own a gun and all

1241
01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:22.559
<v Speaker 1>of the rest of that. But it's it's more complex

1242
01:07:23.639 --> 01:07:27.079
<v Speaker 1>than a lot of people know who don't know the Constitution.

1243
01:07:26.679 --> 01:07:28.440
<v Speaker 3>Like someone like you does.

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01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:32.559
<v Speaker 10>I'm put to it, you know, well, I.

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01:07:32.559 --> 01:07:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Mean and as this always been kind of like a

1246
01:07:36.440 --> 01:07:39.079
<v Speaker 1>quest for you to understand as much as you can

1247
01:07:39.199 --> 01:07:43.280
<v Speaker 1>about the laws that are supposed to govern us or

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01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:46.840
<v Speaker 1>give us our you know, guarantee, our God given rights.

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01:07:47.639 --> 01:07:49.840
<v Speaker 3>When did you start chasing after that?

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01:07:52.039 --> 01:07:55.599
<v Speaker 10>Well, I come from an era where we did have

1251
01:07:55.639 --> 01:07:59.000
<v Speaker 10>a semester in eighth grade on Civics and the Constitution

1252
01:07:59.159 --> 01:08:02.280
<v Speaker 10>at our rights. I was very excited to learn that

1253
01:08:02.320 --> 01:08:05.159
<v Speaker 10>I had rights. I'm the daughter of a Chicago police

1254
01:08:05.159 --> 01:08:08.440
<v Speaker 10>officer and a legal secretary. And then all our lives

1255
01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:12.239
<v Speaker 10>we've been sailing through thinking that we had these, that

1256
01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:15.039
<v Speaker 10>it was a given and an assumption, and until you

1257
01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:18.920
<v Speaker 10>actually get into some trouble, they're not really tested. And

1258
01:08:18.960 --> 01:08:21.840
<v Speaker 10>so it was really the COVID that I like to say,

1259
01:08:21.880 --> 01:08:25.199
<v Speaker 10>the COVID people mock me when I was like, why

1260
01:08:25.239 --> 01:08:28.319
<v Speaker 10>does the government think they have the authority to tell

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01:08:28.359 --> 01:08:33.399
<v Speaker 10>businesses to close and decide what was essential and non essential?

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01:08:33.960 --> 01:08:36.600
<v Speaker 10>And I lived in Las Vegas for some time in

1263
01:08:36.680 --> 01:08:40.039
<v Speaker 10>the later end of the pandemic, and the governor was

1264
01:08:40.079 --> 01:08:42.600
<v Speaker 10>telling oh, the Strimp Club could be opened, the dispensary

1265
01:08:42.680 --> 01:08:46.000
<v Speaker 10>could be open, but Walmart could be open, but these

1266
01:08:46.039 --> 01:08:49.159
<v Speaker 10>other small businesses could not. So I began to research

1267
01:08:49.600 --> 01:08:52.600
<v Speaker 10>from where did they think they're getting that authority? And

1268
01:08:52.680 --> 01:08:53.840
<v Speaker 10>I discovered it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, doesn't and I haven't without doing a whole

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01:08:57.319 --> 01:08:57.880
<v Speaker 3>lot of work.

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01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:01.800
<v Speaker 1>No, And God bless you for that, because I was

1272
01:09:01.840 --> 01:09:06.720
<v Speaker 1>of the same mind, because I was deemed an essential

1273
01:09:07.359 --> 01:09:10.359
<v Speaker 1>employee because I got to come in and do my

1274
01:09:10.479 --> 01:09:16.880
<v Speaker 1>radio shows. In fact, I got I received special government papers.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to this, two weeks to two weeks after they

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<v Speaker 1>said we're gonna we're gonna kind of shut things down

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks to slow the spread. And they're telling us that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I get these papers from corporate that are

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<v Speaker 1>basically something for me to keep in my wallet, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were good through May thirty first. Now this was

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<v Speaker 1>in March. When I got these papers, I said, two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks to slow the spread. My ass Now, this is

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<v Speaker 1>not this is not exactly what they're telling you. And

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<v Speaker 1>I got into it in about two weeks into that,

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<v Speaker 1>I went off on this program against the shutdowns about

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<v Speaker 1>the business closings. It is not the government's place, nor

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<v Speaker 1>do they have the authority to shut down businesses that

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<v Speaker 1>they deem as non essential for whatever purpose. There's nowhere

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<v Speaker 1>in the Constitution that says that. And when they started

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<v Speaker 1>with the mask mandates, and then they tried to do

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<v Speaker 1>the jab mandates, and they succeeded in many different places,

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<v Speaker 1>like our military getting away with mandating that someone puts

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<v Speaker 1>something into their body that they didn't believe they needed

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<v Speaker 1>or wanted.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it was clear to me early.

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<v Speaker 1>On before a lot of other people got hep to it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you and I were, I think we're pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>on the same page there, and I started researching and

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<v Speaker 1>not doing the research that all of the research I

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<v Speaker 1>should have probably, but you did the research for us.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're still preaching the gospel of you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>the government can't do that.

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<v Speaker 12>Oh whoa, whoa, whoa.

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<v Speaker 10>Well let's slow down. Yes they can. You consented to it.

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<v Speaker 10>And here's how, because that's what I discovered. When you

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<v Speaker 10>or your you know, I don't know where you work

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<v Speaker 10>out of, or you're self employed, or you work for

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<v Speaker 10>a radio station or whatever it is, when you ask

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<v Speaker 10>the state for a license to do business for an

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<v Speaker 10>LLC and s coorb any sort of permission, you become

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<v Speaker 10>under their rules. So they did have that jurisdiction over you.

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<v Speaker 10>But when you got that LLC, and I'm saying you personally,

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<v Speaker 10>but anybody who got an LLC, anybody who opened a business,

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<v Speaker 10>they did not disclose to you that you were waiving

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<v Speaker 10>your rights to private economic activity, which is covered under

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<v Speaker 10>the First Amendment under liberty, and so you unknowingly consented

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<v Speaker 10>to be governed. And the same with the churches. When

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<v Speaker 10>the churches open up and asked for a five oh

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<v Speaker 10>one C three to be tax exempt, you're still waiving

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<v Speaker 10>your rights when all businesses and churches have to do.

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<v Speaker 10>It's simply rent or purchase and open a business. You

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<v Speaker 10>do not have to get special permission for private economic activity.

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<v Speaker 10>We've just been conditioned to believe that we need to

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<v Speaker 10>do this, and the government believes and perceives that you

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<v Speaker 10>waved your rights. Now you can't wave your rights without

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<v Speaker 10>knowingly waving your rights, which you did not. And so

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<v Speaker 10>when I found this out, it was absolutely mind blowing

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<v Speaker 10>to me. And there's so many people that think a

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<v Speaker 10>mandate is a law, and that never ever researched the word,

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<v Speaker 10>that never ever thought of their rights, that have no

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<v Speaker 10>idea about the Nuremberg Codes and the Geneva Convention, and

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<v Speaker 10>that has just become so mind blowing to me. And

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<v Speaker 10>ever since the first day I started to research this,

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<v Speaker 10>I have not stopped. And now I have this book,

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<v Speaker 10>I have the Inealenable University, which is an online university

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<v Speaker 10>that teaches you how to stand for your rights and

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<v Speaker 10>exercise your rights. It is mind blowing. I get so

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<v Speaker 10>many compliments on how organized it is because we take

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<v Speaker 10>you on a path to exercise the common law, which

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<v Speaker 10>is the only place you have your rights. You're not

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<v Speaker 10>having your right it's in traffic court, state court. So

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<v Speaker 10>many people have been screaming all summer about the Trump case.

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<v Speaker 10>Alex Jones, Steve ben and Peter Navarro, James O'Keefe, they

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<v Speaker 10>had accepted a contract to be governed because they never

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<v Speaker 10>challenged jurisdiction. And when you don't challenge jurisdiction, you're not

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<v Speaker 10>going to you're not going to win. There are no rights.

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<v Speaker 10>You can only get your rights under the common law,

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<v Speaker 10>and only when you defend yourself, not when you hire

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<v Speaker 10>an attorney, because they represent you and they represent your

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<v Speaker 10>legal entity, not your living man. There are no rights,

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<v Speaker 10>and so it's a lot for people to take. But

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<v Speaker 10>it's four years later now I'm still here and we

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<v Speaker 10>are kicking ass and I now live in the private

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<v Speaker 10>So that's what happens when you remove yourself from these

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<v Speaker 10>government agencies. Well, I had to steal intacts. What they

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<v Speaker 10>can't see?

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<v Speaker 1>Why didn't Why didn't Trump and his attorneys because there

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<v Speaker 1>were all kinds of jurisdictional problems with what went on

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<v Speaker 1>on that trial and that sham trial.

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<v Speaker 3>In Manhattan Wor.

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<v Speaker 10>Absolutely as soon as he hired a bar card, he

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<v Speaker 10>told the courts that he was incompetence. That's what the

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<v Speaker 10>terminology means, that you're a minor incompetent and you need

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<v Speaker 10>to be represented. Now, I have Trump on the cover

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<v Speaker 10>of my book at the moment that supposedly when he

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<v Speaker 10>was at the first inaugula, the only inauguration in twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 10>when he was transferring power from the corporation back to

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<v Speaker 10>the people. At the moment in time, there were I

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<v Speaker 10>think there were generals, but I'm not sure, or Joint

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<v Speaker 10>chief of Staff or somebody from the military was behind him.

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<v Speaker 10>And that's supposedly when the power was transferred. But it's

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<v Speaker 10>certainly not something that's going to happen overnight. So I

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<v Speaker 10>have to ask myself, does Trump know what we know

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<v Speaker 10>because he did appoint these amazing justices who this summer

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<v Speaker 10>has proven that they are rolling back the statutory Roman

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<v Speaker 10>civil based system that we have, which is entirely repugnant

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<v Speaker 10>to the Constitution, back to the common law in the

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<v Speaker 10>Chevron and the Jarkassier. It's amazing for what I teach

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<v Speaker 10>and what we preach.

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<v Speaker 1>Gianna Misseli, I'll tell you what. Let's take a quick

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<v Speaker 1>break and come back, and we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the deep state and the Supreme Court and what it

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<v Speaker 1>means if Donald Trump is re elected and what it

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<v Speaker 1>means if he is not. In just a moment on

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<v Speaker 1>the nightcap on seven hundred WLW, once again we are

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Gianna Miscelli on this Monday night. You know

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<v Speaker 1>Sandy who helps book your appearances on this show and others.

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<v Speaker 1>Gianna always make sure that I know how to pronounce

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<v Speaker 1>your name, which I pronounced flawlessly the first time I

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<v Speaker 1>had you on, which I think is just again a

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<v Speaker 1>great tribute to me. Let's get onto these You release

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<v Speaker 1>commentaries on a regular basis, and last Tuesday out at

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<v Speaker 1>Giannamasselli dot com and by the way, that's where you

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<v Speaker 1>can find her book.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're looking.

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<v Speaker 1>And his title is why the deep State can't afford

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<v Speaker 1>more Trump Supreme Court appointments. And there are plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>unseen forces, as you mentioned at the top of this commentary, Gianna,

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<v Speaker 1>that are doing everything they can, literally everything they can,

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<v Speaker 1>including trying to assassinate this man before he could ever

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<v Speaker 1>take office or win an election. They do not want,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't want Donald Trump the first time, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why there was such a just an unbelievable hell hole

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff thrown at President Trump throughout his entire first

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<v Speaker 1>term and then the prosecutions and persecutions as he announced

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<v Speaker 1>he was running again for president because America and American

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<v Speaker 1>justice really need another dose of Donald Trump to root

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<v Speaker 1>out and as he said, drain the swamp. But the

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<v Speaker 1>swamp is a lot deeper than anybody thinks, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, he has stated. I read Corey Lewandowski's book, Let

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<v Speaker 10>Trump Be Trump, and it is a fantastic, riveting book.

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<v Speaker 10>He takes you on the campaign trail, and you remember

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<v Speaker 10>the polls were always like it was ninety percent going

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<v Speaker 10>to be Hillary Clinton. They were not ready and they

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<v Speaker 10>did not have a transition team. And Corey sassis in

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<v Speaker 10>that book, they had no expectation to win.

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<v Speaker 4>He was just trying.

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<v Speaker 10>Of course, he's not going to quit. And so this time,

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<v Speaker 10>with this RFK allegiance, they have people ready, you know.

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<v Speaker 10>And I believe the man did the best job he

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<v Speaker 10>could with what he had. We know that now, Burke flies.

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<v Speaker 10>In her book, she admits that she lied about those

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<v Speaker 10>fifteen days. And I knew it too, just like you said,

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<v Speaker 10>yeah right, I was in New York when it happened.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah right, it's going to be fifteen days. The very

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<v Speaker 10>next day, I ordered a pod and moved down to Florida.

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<v Speaker 10>I was in Florida within a month, right, how long?

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<v Speaker 3>Florida never really locked down, did they?

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<v Speaker 10>They did? They were not as free as people claim.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, I can only speak for living in Palm

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<v Speaker 10>Beach County. I'm in Broward now, but at the time

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<v Speaker 10>I was in Palm Beach County and they had the

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<v Speaker 10>orange mesh fence around park where kids would play, and

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<v Speaker 10>you couldn't go on the beach. I mean, they had

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<v Speaker 10>the insanity. Kids were still massed, servers were still mass

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<v Speaker 10>The whole thing was not as bad as other places,

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<v Speaker 10>but I knew there was no way I could stay

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<v Speaker 10>in New York and survive.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just not as totalitarian as what you left

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<v Speaker 1>in New York. So what does it mean if President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is once again recognized as President Trump with a

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<v Speaker 1>second term in November for the Supreme Court? And the

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court has been the only stop gap from total

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<v Speaker 1>tyranny with Joe Bidenen in Kamala Harrison office. But what

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<v Speaker 1>does it mean for the country if Donald Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>re elected and can appoint more members to the highest

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<v Speaker 1>court in the land.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, there's two more that are in the possible retirement

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<v Speaker 10>age in the next four or five years, so that

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<v Speaker 10>is very exciting. The Chevron Deference removed regulatory ambiguity that

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<v Speaker 10>gives the administrative agencies unconstitutional power. And it was a

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<v Speaker 10>shot heard around the world, and someone made a fantastic

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<v Speaker 10>video on next I wish I had saved it. Maybe

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<v Speaker 10>I did, and I haven't looked, but it ran an

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<v Speaker 10>alphabetical list of all the agencies that have been affected.

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<v Speaker 10>So we feel in my common law world, in my

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<v Speaker 10>ineleitable university, that these agencies are going to start rolling back.

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<v Speaker 10>And we've got about two hundred cases in the common

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<v Speaker 10>law against bank fraud presently happening, and they've come to

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<v Speaker 10>a standstill, and we believe that they're waiting to see

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<v Speaker 10>if Kamala is elected or if this rule back to

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<v Speaker 10>the common law is actually going to happen. We're just speculating.

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<v Speaker 10>We can't know that. But if Trump gets two more picks,

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<v Speaker 10>he's forever changed the landscape of a conservative Supreme Court,

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<v Speaker 10>which we need, so we have.

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<v Speaker 1>If something lest if Kamala Harris wins, how much of

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<v Speaker 1>a danger is to a free speech in America?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, it's not really about her. She's no the puppet

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<v Speaker 10>of the muppet, you know, the puppet of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the deep state. Yeah, I understand that.

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<v Speaker 1>But if someone like that were to win the White

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<v Speaker 1>House and have that executive power, what kind of challenges

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<v Speaker 1>do we face as Americans?

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<v Speaker 3>Can survive?

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<v Speaker 10>The executive orders only affect the federal government, the administrative agencies,

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<v Speaker 10>But so many people like people are speculating this tax

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<v Speaker 10>she's proposing on unrealized gains, And I'll say to people

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<v Speaker 10>on social on what planet do you think she can

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<v Speaker 10>execute that? She cannot rule by executive order? No one

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<v Speaker 10>even reads these executive orders have really really smart people.

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<v Speaker 10>Just because she said something doesn't mean she can do it.

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<v Speaker 10>It's not going to matter. So we want to teach

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01:20:59.680 --> 01:21:02.399
<v Speaker 10>people is the more people that do what I'm doing,

1484
01:21:02.920 --> 01:21:06.039
<v Speaker 10>get yourself from the public to the private, get out

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01:21:06.239 --> 01:21:10.079
<v Speaker 10>of from under their regulations, you will walk the world

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01:21:10.399 --> 01:21:13.199
<v Speaker 10>differently and they will have no effect on you. And

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01:21:13.279 --> 01:21:16.920
<v Speaker 10>then we can start locally. You hopefully people will rise

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01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:21.039
<v Speaker 10>as leaders to join the city commissions and remove them

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01:21:21.399 --> 01:21:25.239
<v Speaker 10>from being private por profit corporations and restoring the republic

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01:21:25.560 --> 01:21:27.199
<v Speaker 10>as they should be. It's the only way it's going

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01:21:27.279 --> 01:21:29.960
<v Speaker 10>to work. We can't just hit it from the federal

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01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:31.199
<v Speaker 10>government up well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there were a lot of executive orders that

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01:21:33.239 --> 01:21:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden signed as soon as he got into office

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01:21:35.680 --> 01:21:39.479
<v Speaker 1>that reversed all of Donald Trump's executive orders that had

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<v Speaker 1>actually curbed the invasion at our southern border.

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<v Speaker 3>And with immigration yes.

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<v Speaker 10>Or no, right, Yes, there's speculation that the un owns

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01:21:51.239 --> 01:21:53.520
<v Speaker 10>ten miles on each side, so I have not been

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<v Speaker 10>able to find anything that confirms that. But that's the

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01:21:57.680 --> 01:22:01.640
<v Speaker 10>Department of Homeland Security. Yeah, that's a federal agency.

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01:22:02.159 --> 01:22:05.359
<v Speaker 3>And may Orcus has done a wonderful job.

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<v Speaker 30>I mean, if you're of the position that they're doing

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01:22:11.600 --> 01:22:13.920
<v Speaker 30>what they're supposed to be doing, yes, but they're definitely

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01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:16.920
<v Speaker 30>not doing what they would any normal person would believe

1506
01:22:16.960 --> 01:22:19.239
<v Speaker 30>if you wanted to destroy the country, you do everything

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01:22:19.279 --> 01:22:19.840
<v Speaker 30>that they're doing.

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<v Speaker 10>And they're doing great at that. Yeah, we're in scary times.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, look at these people, Look at all the

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01:22:25.439 --> 01:22:28.439
<v Speaker 10>the I haven't seen what the federal government is doing

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01:22:28.479 --> 01:22:31.119
<v Speaker 10>about all the wake of the hurricane. I haven't seen anything.

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01:22:31.199 --> 01:22:33.520
<v Speaker 10>And I was on Twitter all morning. I mean, I

1513
01:22:33.560 --> 01:22:36.720
<v Speaker 10>don't know if it exist, but I haven't seen it. Well,

1514
01:22:36.760 --> 01:22:40.359
<v Speaker 10>I mean, with another Katrina on our hands, the.

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01:22:40.760 --> 01:22:43.000
<v Speaker 3>State governments have mobilized and.

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01:22:44.560 --> 01:22:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden, Kamala Harris really other than being briefed on

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01:22:48.920 --> 01:22:53.520
<v Speaker 1>the situation, I saw something with Harris this morning. Well,

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01:22:53.680 --> 01:22:56.479
<v Speaker 1>jee ye, I'm going back to Washington to be briefed

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01:22:56.560 --> 01:22:59.960
<v Speaker 1>and to you know, offer any kind of help, must

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01:23:00.039 --> 01:23:02.520
<v Speaker 1>for any kind of help that they need, and blah blah.

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01:23:02.359 --> 01:23:06.439
<v Speaker 3>Blah blah blah uh and it's all it's all just fluff.

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01:23:06.520 --> 01:23:08.600
<v Speaker 3>There's no substance there whatsoever.

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01:23:09.800 --> 01:23:10.439
<v Speaker 11>We're on our own.

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01:23:11.119 --> 01:23:13.319
<v Speaker 10>We're really on our own. I mean, I'm lucky that

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01:23:13.560 --> 01:23:16.439
<v Speaker 10>I'm here where DeSantis is and he says he's handled

1526
01:23:16.479 --> 01:23:20.520
<v Speaker 10>Florida so okay, I was supposed to live where like

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01:23:20.880 --> 01:23:24.359
<v Speaker 10>by in Sarasota. I ended up in Fort Ladderdown on accident.

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01:23:24.399 --> 01:23:26.079
<v Speaker 10>And I'm just like, look at this I was I

1529
01:23:26.199 --> 01:23:28.279
<v Speaker 10>just moved here in June. Look at what would have

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01:23:28.319 --> 01:23:28.840
<v Speaker 10>happened to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you didn't want to be You didn't want to

1532
01:23:32.760 --> 01:23:34.720
<v Speaker 1>be in that elbow, and you certainly didn't want to

1533
01:23:34.800 --> 01:23:38.720
<v Speaker 1>be in Georgia, South Carolina, or in Ashville, North Carolina,

1534
01:23:38.840 --> 01:23:42.720
<v Speaker 1>with that incredible storm that just blew through. Gianna Misceli,

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01:23:42.800 --> 01:23:46.239
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. It's Giannamoscelli dot com. If you

1536
01:23:46.279 --> 01:23:48.479
<v Speaker 1>want to find out more or get her book or

1537
01:23:48.560 --> 01:23:53.239
<v Speaker 1>find out about in Leanable University. All the information's there, Gianna,

1538
01:23:53.319 --> 01:23:54.079
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much.

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01:23:54.680 --> 01:23:56.039
<v Speaker 10>Came there you next time?

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01:23:56.199 --> 01:23:56.520
<v Speaker 3>All right?

1541
01:23:56.600 --> 01:23:59.319
<v Speaker 1>You bet you the wild Man right around the corner

1542
01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:05.079
<v Speaker 1>afternows on seven hundred WLW. It is the nightcap into

1543
01:24:05.159 --> 01:24:09.439
<v Speaker 1>a brand new season on seven hundred WLW Welcoming some

1544
01:24:09.680 --> 01:24:14.920
<v Speaker 1>old friends as well. And this guy has been a

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01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:19.479
<v Speaker 1>part of these nighttime broadcasts of ours for God for

1546
01:24:19.560 --> 01:24:20.640
<v Speaker 1>as long as I've been doing it.

1547
01:24:20.800 --> 01:24:22.720
<v Speaker 3>So we're into eight years or so.

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01:24:23.800 --> 01:24:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Talking to the likes of doctor John Huber, forensic psychologist

1549
01:24:27.800 --> 01:24:29.039
<v Speaker 1>out of Austin, Texas.

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01:24:29.720 --> 01:24:33.840
<v Speaker 3>Many issues on the table. But first, doctor, how are you?

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01:24:35.720 --> 01:24:38.880
<v Speaker 6>I am amazing Gary Jeff just because I'm on the

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01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:41.319
<v Speaker 6>air with my good friend Gary Jeff Walker.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's very very sweet. We'll see how you feel

1554
01:24:44.199 --> 01:24:49.640
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the interview. So, first and foremost,

1555
01:24:49.760 --> 01:24:54.159
<v Speaker 1>as a psychologist, and you testify in court as to

1556
01:24:54.279 --> 01:24:59.359
<v Speaker 1>the wherewithal sanity, the brainwear with all of people who

1557
01:24:59.399 --> 01:25:03.560
<v Speaker 1>are on truck, and that's one of the things that

1558
01:25:03.720 --> 01:25:09.479
<v Speaker 1>you do. So much attention has been focused on Sean

1559
01:25:09.720 --> 01:25:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Combs for the last we're really not just the last month,

1560
01:25:13.399 --> 01:25:17.960
<v Speaker 1>not since his arrest, but going back to the FBI raid,

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01:25:18.119 --> 01:25:22.600
<v Speaker 1>going back to all the other rumors about just very

1562
01:25:22.800 --> 01:25:27.800
<v Speaker 1>very unseemly stuff, sexual stuff and freak goll parties we've

1563
01:25:27.840 --> 01:25:30.720
<v Speaker 1>found out about after the FBI raid and the one

1564
01:25:30.800 --> 01:25:34.600
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand bottles of baby oil, which by the way,

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01:25:36.560 --> 01:25:40.279
<v Speaker 1>I would not suggest that necessary as a lubricant because

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01:25:41.039 --> 01:25:43.119
<v Speaker 1>I would think not that I know that that could

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01:25:43.159 --> 01:25:48.399
<v Speaker 1>burn a little bit. But Doc, first and foremost, what

1568
01:25:49.479 --> 01:25:52.840
<v Speaker 1>causes someone, and we're of course it's all alleged.

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01:25:52.920 --> 01:25:56.520
<v Speaker 3>They've got hours of video of all these parties.

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01:25:56.600 --> 01:25:59.880
<v Speaker 1>They've got all kinds of forensic evidence they have turned

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01:26:00.079 --> 01:26:03.000
<v Speaker 1>up from Diddy's homes, and there have been plenty of

1572
01:26:03.079 --> 01:26:07.039
<v Speaker 1>people coming out one victim so far. But what's behind

1573
01:26:07.119 --> 01:26:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the psychology of someone who might go this far off

1574
01:26:11.720 --> 01:26:13.520
<v Speaker 1>the rails like P did?

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01:26:13.760 --> 01:26:16.880
<v Speaker 6>Well, what one of the things is you got this person,

1576
01:26:16.960 --> 01:26:19.159
<v Speaker 6>you know, when you become this entertainer and you get

1577
01:26:19.159 --> 01:26:21.279
<v Speaker 6>out and you're out in front of people, you know,

1578
01:26:21.520 --> 01:26:26.199
<v Speaker 6>you start to, you know, get this very narcissistic part

1579
01:26:26.239 --> 01:26:28.159
<v Speaker 6>of your life. And unless you can control that and

1580
01:26:28.239 --> 01:26:30.840
<v Speaker 6>cut that down and turn it off when you walk

1581
01:26:30.920 --> 01:26:33.119
<v Speaker 6>off stage, that kind of stuff. I mean, we see

1582
01:26:33.119 --> 01:26:35.600
<v Speaker 6>people do it all the time, you know. I mean,

1583
01:26:35.760 --> 01:26:37.920
<v Speaker 6>why do you think Madonna's done what she done? She

1584
01:26:38.439 --> 01:26:41.760
<v Speaker 6>is on stage, she is that narcissist. Off stage, She's

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01:26:41.840 --> 01:26:44.760
<v Speaker 6>a family mom. She takes care of business, you know,

1586
01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:48.680
<v Speaker 6>she she gives her kids, consequentquences, all that type of stuff,

1587
01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:50.800
<v Speaker 6>just like you're supposed to. Then you turn around and

1588
01:26:50.840 --> 01:26:53.640
<v Speaker 6>you look at P Diddy as far back. I was

1589
01:26:53.720 --> 01:26:56.520
<v Speaker 6>actually able to watch a video of P Diddy in

1590
01:26:56.640 --> 01:27:00.159
<v Speaker 6>nineteen ninety nine talking to an entertainment news show thinking

1591
01:27:00.199 --> 01:27:03.319
<v Speaker 6>about how crazy his parties are that one day he's

1592
01:27:03.359 --> 01:27:05.520
<v Speaker 6>going to get arrested for them. And he said that

1593
01:27:05.720 --> 01:27:08.159
<v Speaker 6>nineteen ninety nine, so he knew what he was doing

1594
01:27:08.279 --> 01:27:13.000
<v Speaker 6>back then was with pushing limits. And you know, I remember,

1595
01:27:13.520 --> 01:27:17.520
<v Speaker 6>you know, googling and ooing and aweing at the fact

1596
01:27:17.560 --> 01:27:19.439
<v Speaker 6>that you know, the guy went out and rented a

1597
01:27:20.840 --> 01:27:23.159
<v Speaker 6>two hundred and something million dollar yacht to hold a

1598
01:27:23.279 --> 01:27:25.600
<v Speaker 6>birthday party and brought all his friends on that and

1599
01:27:25.680 --> 01:27:28.399
<v Speaker 6>took him through the Caribbean or to the Mediterranean whatever

1600
01:27:28.800 --> 01:27:31.920
<v Speaker 6>back in the day, back back long before nineteen ninety nine,

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01:27:32.239 --> 01:27:35.399
<v Speaker 6>and thinking, Wow, how extravagant, how how much he just

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01:27:35.479 --> 01:27:38.439
<v Speaker 6>throws into that. And then you turn around and today

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01:27:38.680 --> 01:27:41.359
<v Speaker 6>again you got that indictment. It's nineteen pages long as

1604
01:27:41.359 --> 01:27:46.399
<v Speaker 6>there's one victim, plethora of witnesses than the raids include

1605
01:27:46.600 --> 01:27:49.239
<v Speaker 6>all the digital video stuff and this guy, I mean,

1606
01:27:49.560 --> 01:27:53.159
<v Speaker 6>who copies. And you know, I've had smaller cases where

1607
01:27:53.640 --> 01:27:58.199
<v Speaker 6>where people had had like websites or podcasts and things

1608
01:27:58.279 --> 01:28:00.880
<v Speaker 6>like that with two three hundred thousand followers, and then

1609
01:28:00.920 --> 01:28:06.439
<v Speaker 6>they go out and start videotaping themselves committing crimes. And

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01:28:06.920 --> 01:28:09.920
<v Speaker 6>you know, whether it's it's you know, graffiti, that kind

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01:28:09.920 --> 01:28:13.640
<v Speaker 6>of stuff, defacing property and putting it on their YouTube

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01:28:13.680 --> 01:28:17.399
<v Speaker 6>and their videos and then get arrested and then you know,

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01:28:17.560 --> 01:28:20.079
<v Speaker 6>I got brought into the case and they're like, hey,

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01:28:20.279 --> 01:28:24.520
<v Speaker 6>nobody's gonna give me any punishment because I'm famous. I'm like,

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01:28:25.079 --> 01:28:27.279
<v Speaker 6>I don't know who you are. You know you got

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<v Speaker 6>quote unquote two hundred thousand. Well, it turns out several

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01:28:30.319 --> 01:28:32.680
<v Speaker 6>of those people following his face APPA to Bend police

1618
01:28:32.720 --> 01:28:35.800
<v Speaker 6>officers and they use that to invite him. So now

1619
01:28:35.880 --> 01:28:39.119
<v Speaker 6>you take that to the instagree where somebody who wherever

1620
01:28:39.279 --> 01:28:41.359
<v Speaker 6>he goes in the world, people know he did. He

1621
01:28:41.439 --> 01:28:46.520
<v Speaker 6>you know, Sean Puffy Combs, and you just look at that.

1622
01:28:46.640 --> 01:28:50.600
<v Speaker 6>This guy walks into any room and people basically cater

1623
01:28:50.800 --> 01:28:54.479
<v Speaker 6>to his whims. So he's got money to follow that up.

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01:28:54.560 --> 01:28:59.840
<v Speaker 6>Apparently these parties he hired sex workers male and female professionals,

1625
01:29:00.039 --> 01:29:04.479
<v Speaker 6>ex workers, so prostitutes, and they would go there and

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01:29:04.520 --> 01:29:07.279
<v Speaker 6>these parties would last days where they'd have you know,

1627
01:29:07.600 --> 01:29:11.520
<v Speaker 6>ivy rehydration centers where people could get rehydrated and jump

1628
01:29:11.600 --> 01:29:16.520
<v Speaker 6>back in. And then people after participating in this, some

1629
01:29:16.680 --> 01:29:18.960
<v Speaker 6>of them weren't able to go out publicly because they

1630
01:29:18.960 --> 01:29:23.560
<v Speaker 6>were so bruised, scratched up and you know, injured, that

1631
01:29:23.720 --> 01:29:27.560
<v Speaker 6>they couldn't be seen in public without people going, hey,

1632
01:29:27.680 --> 01:29:29.760
<v Speaker 6>what's wrong with you kind of thing? What happened? Will

1633
01:29:29.760 --> 01:29:32.399
<v Speaker 6>beat you up? And man, why do you do that?

1634
01:29:32.720 --> 01:29:35.800
<v Speaker 6>He's got he's got the world of his fingertips and

1635
01:29:35.920 --> 01:29:38.960
<v Speaker 6>it happened at a very young age. He had a

1636
01:29:39.039 --> 01:29:42.079
<v Speaker 6>bunch of yes people all around him, and now he's

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01:29:42.079 --> 01:29:44.560
<v Speaker 6>sitting there being told no, he put up. He offered

1638
01:29:44.640 --> 01:29:47.359
<v Speaker 6>fifty million dollars per bail and was at the bag bill.

1639
01:29:47.760 --> 01:29:50.800
<v Speaker 6>So he's sitting up there in the Bronklin Brooklyn, sorry

1640
01:29:50.880 --> 01:29:52.399
<v Speaker 6>not Bronklyn Brooklyn.

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01:29:53.760 --> 01:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Detention Center right in his book Made, his book Made

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01:29:58.079 --> 01:30:04.199
<v Speaker 1>is Sam Bankman freed the fraud strup So no, I'm serious?

1643
01:30:04.479 --> 01:30:09.399
<v Speaker 1>And Greg Greg Greg Greg Guttfeld on Fox on his

1644
01:30:09.560 --> 01:30:12.920
<v Speaker 1>show said we had a picture of Sam Bankman freed

1645
01:30:13.439 --> 01:30:14.600
<v Speaker 1>and in a T shirt.

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01:30:14.640 --> 01:30:17.199
<v Speaker 3>He said, well, at least Diddy has a bunk mate

1647
01:30:17.239 --> 01:30:18.319
<v Speaker 3>with a nice rack.

1648
01:30:19.520 --> 01:30:19.920
<v Speaker 20>That was.

1649
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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, And then you know, and then Bieber released

1650
01:30:25.159 --> 01:30:29.279
<v Speaker 6>some song about Pitty about p Diddy that is not

1651
01:30:29.520 --> 01:30:32.319
<v Speaker 6>I mean, you listen to it, whether it's true or not.

1652
01:30:32.800 --> 01:30:35.960
<v Speaker 6>It's really uh slapping the face.

1653
01:30:36.439 --> 01:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>But back to the psychology of this, and you touched

1654
01:30:38.840 --> 01:30:43.520
<v Speaker 1>on it very well and succinctly for me. But this overwhelming,

1655
01:30:43.800 --> 01:30:49.199
<v Speaker 1>unchecked narcissism which makes someone and it happens God, you

1656
01:30:49.319 --> 01:30:52.960
<v Speaker 1>see it in the political circles all the time. Uh,

1657
01:30:53.399 --> 01:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>but you you see that, and it is an awareness

1658
01:30:58.039 --> 01:31:02.479
<v Speaker 1>by that person that they think they are God and

1659
01:31:02.720 --> 01:31:06.520
<v Speaker 1>whatever their whim is is okay because they wanted to

1660
01:31:06.640 --> 01:31:09.279
<v Speaker 1>do it. And that is just, I think the worst

1661
01:31:09.439 --> 01:31:13.159
<v Speaker 1>kind of narcissism. It's it's narcissism to the nth degree.

1662
01:31:14.199 --> 01:31:17.840
<v Speaker 3>And this is what p did. He probably is suffering from,

1663
01:31:19.039 --> 01:31:20.920
<v Speaker 3>although he oh absolutely.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. And you see it, you see it to a

1665
01:31:23.720 --> 01:31:26.520
<v Speaker 6>lesser degree. Like just think to your local sports star,

1666
01:31:26.600 --> 01:31:30.760
<v Speaker 6>your your high school star quarterback who maybe is out

1667
01:31:31.399 --> 01:31:33.640
<v Speaker 6>running around and then maybe goes a little over the

1668
01:31:33.680 --> 01:31:36.239
<v Speaker 6>speed limit and you know, cop pulls them over and

1669
01:31:36.279 --> 01:31:38.319
<v Speaker 6>then oh, well you had a great game last night,

1670
01:31:38.359 --> 01:31:40.039
<v Speaker 6>you know, slow it down and go home. Where they

1671
01:31:40.159 --> 01:31:42.960
<v Speaker 6>get everybody else's tick it, you know, and it starts

1672
01:31:43.119 --> 01:31:45.760
<v Speaker 6>real subtly like that, and that's just you know, a

1673
01:31:45.840 --> 01:31:49.279
<v Speaker 6>police officer trying to be friendly in the community, trying

1674
01:31:49.359 --> 01:31:52.520
<v Speaker 6>to avoid issues. You know, hey, you're targeting our star player.

1675
01:31:52.600 --> 01:31:55.680
<v Speaker 6>You know, all that kind of stuff. But the players

1676
01:31:55.720 --> 01:31:59.720
<v Speaker 6>are too young, too niate to understand all that's involved

1677
01:31:59.720 --> 01:32:02.279
<v Speaker 6>in all the different nuances and how they can be

1678
01:32:02.359 --> 01:32:05.359
<v Speaker 6>pushed and pulled and uh, now you take it to

1679
01:32:05.439 --> 01:32:08.479
<v Speaker 6>the integrate with hundreds of millions of dollars at this

1680
01:32:08.640 --> 01:32:11.840
<v Speaker 6>person's back and call and can you write a check?

1681
01:32:12.520 --> 01:32:19.439
<v Speaker 6>And uh, and it cashes, it doesn't bounce. Man, It's

1682
01:32:19.600 --> 01:32:22.960
<v Speaker 6>it's pretty pretty hard to defeat that, you know. I

1683
01:32:23.279 --> 01:32:26.239
<v Speaker 6>work with some clients who have some wealth, and it's

1684
01:32:26.279 --> 01:32:29.600
<v Speaker 6>really interesting how things get crazy. They just hire people

1685
01:32:29.640 --> 01:32:31.840
<v Speaker 6>to take care of certain things for them, you know,

1686
01:32:31.960 --> 01:32:34.399
<v Speaker 6>whether it's, oh, I'm having a party for my daughter

1687
01:32:34.520 --> 01:32:36.359
<v Speaker 6>this weekend, the house of mess, so they hire two

1688
01:32:36.439 --> 01:32:39.279
<v Speaker 6>cleaning crews to come clean their house instead of panicking,

1689
01:32:39.359 --> 01:32:41.840
<v Speaker 6>and you know, stand up until midnight trying to clean

1690
01:32:41.880 --> 01:32:48.039
<v Speaker 6>their own exactly exactly. And you know, I don't, I don't.

1691
01:32:48.119 --> 01:32:51.159
<v Speaker 6>I don't behooved these people. I mean, my clients are

1692
01:32:51.319 --> 01:32:54.880
<v Speaker 6>some amazing people who who've really, you know, worked hard

1693
01:32:54.960 --> 01:32:58.439
<v Speaker 6>in life, and most of them start out with nothing. However,

1694
01:32:58.840 --> 01:33:00.720
<v Speaker 6>you can say a lot of that about p Diddy.

1695
01:33:00.760 --> 01:33:02.800
<v Speaker 6>He started out in life with not very much, and

1696
01:33:02.920 --> 01:33:05.920
<v Speaker 6>he worked his way up, and you know, I think

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01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:10.640
<v Speaker 6>that there's that element of you know, we talked about

1698
01:33:10.640 --> 01:33:12.760
<v Speaker 6>the and the ego and the superrego. The superrego is

1699
01:33:12.800 --> 01:33:16.800
<v Speaker 6>the part that controls the negotiations between the in and

1700
01:33:16.920 --> 01:33:20.800
<v Speaker 6>the ego and vice versa. The ego and moderates between

1701
01:33:20.840 --> 01:33:25.159
<v Speaker 6>the super ego and the ID. But those rules that

1702
01:33:25.319 --> 01:33:29.560
<v Speaker 6>the superrego implied that you have to follow, that super

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01:33:29.600 --> 01:33:32.239
<v Speaker 6>ego is very weak. And people like p Diddy because

1704
01:33:32.520 --> 01:33:34.640
<v Speaker 6>oh the rules don't apply to me, everybody else needs

1705
01:33:34.680 --> 01:33:36.479
<v Speaker 6>to follow him because I'm not going to get in

1706
01:33:36.560 --> 01:33:39.960
<v Speaker 6>trouble for you get, you know, violating the rules. But hey,

1707
01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:41.640
<v Speaker 6>I can get away with it. That's also money. I

1708
01:33:41.680 --> 01:33:42.279
<v Speaker 6>can buy my way.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, in the back of his mind, since you said

1710
01:33:44.439 --> 01:33:46.840
<v Speaker 1>in that interview you cited from nineteen ninety nine that

1711
01:33:46.920 --> 01:33:50.159
<v Speaker 1>his his parties might get him arrested one day, So

1712
01:33:50.279 --> 01:33:52.560
<v Speaker 1>in his mind, in the back of his mind anyway,

1713
01:33:53.039 --> 01:33:55.640
<v Speaker 1>he's been on the LAMB for twenty five years. And

1714
01:33:55.960 --> 01:33:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I say on the lamb, and I'm not talking about

1715
01:33:58.640 --> 01:34:00.960
<v Speaker 1>animals because there were no sh in the videos as

1716
01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>far as I know, Doctor Huber, Let's take a quick break,

1717
01:34:05.760 --> 01:34:09.640
<v Speaker 1>we'll come back, we'll talk about I don't know, just

1718
01:34:09.760 --> 01:34:13.359
<v Speaker 1>a sense of a belonging to a certain place. You're

1719
01:34:13.600 --> 01:34:18.039
<v Speaker 1>deep in the heart of Texas, and you're a Texas

1720
01:34:18.119 --> 01:34:20.359
<v Speaker 1>boy through and through, you feel like you belong there.

1721
01:34:21.119 --> 01:34:23.159
<v Speaker 1>Some of the reasons why we have that kind of

1722
01:34:23.920 --> 01:34:27.760
<v Speaker 1>provincial sense of belonging to one geographical area where we've

1723
01:34:27.800 --> 01:34:30.439
<v Speaker 1>got all these kind of family ties and roots and such.

1724
01:34:30.880 --> 01:34:34.479
<v Speaker 1>As we continue on the nightcap on seven hundred WLW

1725
01:34:35.560 --> 01:34:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Forensic Psychologists, he's still waiting on his pay after eight years,

1726
01:34:41.880 --> 01:34:44.840
<v Speaker 1>but he's back anyway, like a glutton for punishment, Doctor

1727
01:34:44.880 --> 01:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>John Huber in this little segment. In a few minutes

1728
01:34:48.680 --> 01:34:51.520
<v Speaker 1>we have left, Doctor Hubert, I wanted to ask you

1729
01:34:51.640 --> 01:34:55.840
<v Speaker 1>about something that's always kind of mystified me, probably because

1730
01:34:56.520 --> 01:35:01.520
<v Speaker 1>as a kid, we moved around all the time, different states,

1731
01:35:02.520 --> 01:35:08.399
<v Speaker 1>sometimes different time zones, and we weren't in any given

1732
01:35:08.520 --> 01:35:12.560
<v Speaker 1>place for a long long time. Although I was born

1733
01:35:12.680 --> 01:35:15.720
<v Speaker 1>in Iowa, and every time I go back to the

1734
01:35:15.800 --> 01:35:19.439
<v Speaker 1>small town where I was born in southeast Iowa, Mount Pleasant,

1735
01:35:20.279 --> 01:35:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I instantly, even though I didn't live there more than

1736
01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:27.000
<v Speaker 1>two months of my early infant life, I always feel

1737
01:35:27.039 --> 01:35:30.279
<v Speaker 1>at home there because there are relatives there, and there

1738
01:35:30.319 --> 01:35:33.840
<v Speaker 1>are places that just make you feel more at home

1739
01:35:34.000 --> 01:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>than others. You are Texas born and bred, so Texas

1740
01:35:40.319 --> 01:35:43.920
<v Speaker 1>always feels like home for you. Describe that phenomena of

1741
01:35:44.319 --> 01:35:49.479
<v Speaker 1>people's ties to a particular place psychologically, well.

1742
01:35:49.439 --> 01:35:52.399
<v Speaker 6>Psychologically, you know, you have an awareness of things. You know,

1743
01:35:52.640 --> 01:35:56.840
<v Speaker 6>you have a general understanding of that the culture in

1744
01:35:56.960 --> 01:36:01.159
<v Speaker 6>that area. You get an awareness of the physical geography

1745
01:36:01.279 --> 01:36:05.600
<v Speaker 6>of the area, and there's something that's just kind of innate.

1746
01:36:05.720 --> 01:36:10.560
<v Speaker 6>You understand it. You feel like you can predict what's

1747
01:36:10.600 --> 01:36:12.439
<v Speaker 6>going to happen. You know when you walk around one

1748
01:36:12.520 --> 01:36:14.119
<v Speaker 6>corner what you're going to see on the next one.

1749
01:36:14.479 --> 01:36:17.199
<v Speaker 6>And we get that in different ways. Okay, you said

1750
01:36:17.239 --> 01:36:18.880
<v Speaker 6>you were only there for a few months, but now

1751
01:36:18.920 --> 01:36:20.720
<v Speaker 6>when you visit, you feel like you belong there. The

1752
01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:23.199
<v Speaker 6>thing is, you heard about that your whole life. Your

1753
01:36:23.279 --> 01:36:26.359
<v Speaker 6>parents talked about things that they did in that town.

1754
01:36:26.880 --> 01:36:29.319
<v Speaker 6>Now I sit back and I feel this way about Texas.

1755
01:36:29.399 --> 01:36:32.920
<v Speaker 6>But my parents, respectively, one was in Colorado and one

1756
01:36:33.039 --> 01:36:35.520
<v Speaker 6>We grew up in Iowa, not very far from where

1757
01:36:35.520 --> 01:36:38.800
<v Speaker 6>you were at Muscatine. So when I go to those states,

1758
01:36:39.359 --> 01:36:42.680
<v Speaker 6>I have all this history that I've been taught about

1759
01:36:42.720 --> 01:36:46.479
<v Speaker 6>that state from a child, and then a parent's perspective

1760
01:36:46.560 --> 01:36:52.680
<v Speaker 6>to another child. And there's something about feeling like you

1761
01:36:52.880 --> 01:36:55.800
<v Speaker 6>just belong because you kind of you know, you know something.

1762
01:36:55.880 --> 01:36:58.560
<v Speaker 6>You walk around the corner and there's this building that

1763
01:36:58.680 --> 01:37:00.479
<v Speaker 6>your parents told you about when they were little kid.

1764
01:37:01.640 --> 01:37:06.880
<v Speaker 6>And and it's funny because we briefly discussed several different

1765
01:37:06.920 --> 01:37:09.479
<v Speaker 6>topics last week when we were starting this up, and

1766
01:37:09.920 --> 01:37:12.199
<v Speaker 6>and I started thinking about things. You know, there's another

1767
01:37:12.279 --> 01:37:17.359
<v Speaker 6>place that I feel very like, like connected with, and

1768
01:37:17.479 --> 01:37:20.960
<v Speaker 6>that's that's Manhattan, New York City. And you know, I'm

1769
01:37:21.199 --> 01:37:23.840
<v Speaker 6>a Southern boy, and we talk about all the things

1770
01:37:23.880 --> 01:37:25.840
<v Speaker 6>we don't like about the North, and they talk about

1771
01:37:25.840 --> 01:37:28.039
<v Speaker 6>all the things they don't like about the South. But

1772
01:37:29.000 --> 01:37:31.800
<v Speaker 6>when I get there, the people that I'm introduced to,

1773
01:37:32.600 --> 01:37:38.399
<v Speaker 6>they have always treated me very respectfully, very very much,

1774
01:37:38.520 --> 01:37:42.239
<v Speaker 6>with care and compassion. And so when I go there,

1775
01:37:42.439 --> 01:37:45.920
<v Speaker 6>get ready to go there, I start having Hey, it's

1776
01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:48.279
<v Speaker 6>like I'm going back to see an old friend. So

1777
01:37:48.399 --> 01:37:51.479
<v Speaker 6>I get that feeling too, even though I didn't grow

1778
01:37:51.600 --> 01:37:55.119
<v Speaker 6>up in that area and I don't have a family

1779
01:37:55.359 --> 01:37:58.319
<v Speaker 6>history of people being in that area. So it's kind

1780
01:37:58.359 --> 01:38:01.479
<v Speaker 6>of I think there's a couple of ways we can

1781
01:38:01.520 --> 01:38:04.079
<v Speaker 6>get that. We get that through stories, you know, from

1782
01:38:04.119 --> 01:38:10.039
<v Speaker 6>our parents, but also then from just being around good people.

1783
01:38:10.479 --> 01:38:12.640
<v Speaker 6>You know, I know there's bad people in New York City,

1784
01:38:12.680 --> 01:38:15.359
<v Speaker 6>there's bad people here in Texas, there's bad people in Colorado.

1785
01:38:15.439 --> 01:38:19.640
<v Speaker 6>And but I've been I've been sheltered from that. I

1786
01:38:19.800 --> 01:38:23.399
<v Speaker 6>haven't exposed been exposed to that. You know, you go

1787
01:38:23.560 --> 01:38:26.840
<v Speaker 6>somewhere for a vacation and somebody robbed you, you know,

1788
01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:29.800
<v Speaker 6>at your hotel room. You're not going to ever feel

1789
01:38:29.840 --> 01:38:33.399
<v Speaker 6>comfortable in that place ever because you were exposed to

1790
01:38:33.479 --> 01:38:37.439
<v Speaker 6>that bad element. And I think as long as the

1791
01:38:37.560 --> 01:38:41.720
<v Speaker 6>people around us are genuine human beings caring about other

1792
01:38:41.800 --> 01:38:45.239
<v Speaker 6>people in general, you're going to get that. Even if

1793
01:38:45.279 --> 01:38:47.720
<v Speaker 6>you have an altercation. For example, maybe you drank too

1794
01:38:47.800 --> 01:38:49.319
<v Speaker 6>much in a bar and you bump into somebody.

1795
01:38:50.439 --> 01:38:52.159
<v Speaker 3>Happened.

1796
01:38:52.560 --> 01:38:55.479
<v Speaker 6>No, no, But I know you know, since since since

1797
01:38:55.520 --> 01:38:57.960
<v Speaker 6>you've had past lives where you worked in those places,

1798
01:38:58.039 --> 01:39:02.359
<v Speaker 6>you've seen that happen. Just just because it doesn't happen

1799
01:39:02.399 --> 01:39:05.880
<v Speaker 6>to you and me that that you know, that's we've

1800
01:39:05.880 --> 01:39:06.359
<v Speaker 6>been lucky.

1801
01:39:06.479 --> 01:39:10.560
<v Speaker 1>But doctor, I want to focus primarily on the state

1802
01:39:10.640 --> 01:39:14.800
<v Speaker 1>that you call home, and it's you, it's your life place,

1803
01:39:14.880 --> 01:39:18.399
<v Speaker 1>it's the place where you want to be Texas. I

1804
01:39:18.479 --> 01:39:22.720
<v Speaker 1>have known many people from Texas and they all have

1805
01:39:23.239 --> 01:39:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the one thing in common, and that is, don't mess

1806
01:39:25.840 --> 01:39:29.199
<v Speaker 1>with Texas, man. I mean, it's really strident and strong

1807
01:39:29.439 --> 01:39:31.560
<v Speaker 1>for some reason with Texas. Why do you think that

1808
01:39:31.800 --> 01:39:33.279
<v Speaker 1>is more so than other places.

1809
01:39:34.600 --> 01:39:36.960
<v Speaker 6>Well, I think there's a lot of things playing into that.

1810
01:39:37.159 --> 01:39:39.560
<v Speaker 6>You know, we're the you know, next to Alaska. We

1811
01:39:39.640 --> 01:39:41.920
<v Speaker 6>are the biggest state. We are the biggest of the

1812
01:39:41.960 --> 01:39:45.560
<v Speaker 6>lower forty eight, and you know, we we like to

1813
01:39:45.680 --> 01:39:49.720
<v Speaker 6>push that. And because we're taught that from day one.

1814
01:39:49.880 --> 01:39:51.880
<v Speaker 6>I mean when you're growing up, hey, look at this.

1815
01:39:52.000 --> 01:39:53.680
<v Speaker 6>You know, we're the biggest, were the best. And then

1816
01:39:54.199 --> 01:39:58.159
<v Speaker 6>you know something that world are wide. You talk about

1817
01:39:58.199 --> 01:40:00.319
<v Speaker 6>the Alamo and you know, my friends when I first

1818
01:40:00.399 --> 01:40:03.560
<v Speaker 6>met them from Amsterdam, you know, they were like, oh,

1819
01:40:03.680 --> 01:40:05.359
<v Speaker 6>you've been to the Alamo, and I'm like yeah. And

1820
01:40:05.399 --> 01:40:07.520
<v Speaker 6>then they wanted to ask if I knew where Ozzie

1821
01:40:07.560 --> 01:40:09.520
<v Speaker 6>Pete on the building. I'm like, I don't.

1822
01:40:09.800 --> 01:40:13.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where he did that question where did

1823
01:40:13.159 --> 01:40:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Osbourne urinate on a building?

1824
01:40:17.439 --> 01:40:20.800
<v Speaker 6>Yes? And he did get arrested for that, and you know,

1825
01:40:21.079 --> 01:40:23.680
<v Speaker 6>and and you know he's openly admitted I had too

1826
01:40:23.760 --> 01:40:25.880
<v Speaker 6>much to drink. I had to go pee. There was

1827
01:40:26.039 --> 01:40:28.760
<v Speaker 6>nothing around, and I walked up to a building, didn't

1828
01:40:28.800 --> 01:40:29.439
<v Speaker 6>know what it was.

1829
01:40:29.520 --> 01:40:34.920
<v Speaker 3>And once again, yeah, once again for me, it never happened.

1830
01:40:38.279 --> 01:40:40.239
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you didn't get caught when you peede on the Alamo.

1831
01:40:40.359 --> 01:40:42.119
<v Speaker 6>So that's why you still like Texas.

1832
01:40:42.199 --> 01:40:42.640
<v Speaker 9>But that's.

1833
01:40:45.880 --> 01:40:47.640
<v Speaker 3>I could just see Asie standing there.

1834
01:40:48.640 --> 01:40:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Remember Alamo, Saren, I don't remember what is the Alamo.

1835
01:40:57.399 --> 01:41:02.600
<v Speaker 1>It's what you're peeing on. A mercy all right, doctor,

1836
01:41:02.760 --> 01:41:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Well listen. Thank you as always. It's a blast talking

1837
01:41:05.640 --> 01:41:07.760
<v Speaker 1>to you every single time, and I hope you will

1838
01:41:07.840 --> 01:41:09.800
<v Speaker 1>do a lot more of it now that we're back

1839
01:41:09.880 --> 01:41:12.680
<v Speaker 1>on the air on a more consistent basis here on

1840
01:41:12.800 --> 01:41:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Monday and Tuesday nights on the seven hundred WLW. Doctor

1841
01:41:16.600 --> 01:41:20.880
<v Speaker 1>John Huber, you are as always amazing, and thank you

1842
01:41:21.159 --> 01:41:23.800
<v Speaker 1>so much for granting me a little bit of your

1843
01:41:23.880 --> 01:41:25.159
<v Speaker 1>precious time this evening.

1844
01:41:26.520 --> 01:41:28.640
<v Speaker 6>Thank you so much, Gary, Jef Walker. It's my pleasure.

1845
01:41:29.439 --> 01:41:30.119
<v Speaker 3>Great stuff.

1846
01:41:31.000 --> 01:41:34.359
<v Speaker 1>And with that we in tonight's broadcast with the playing

1847
01:41:34.399 --> 01:41:38.039
<v Speaker 1>of our national anthem to honor America on seven hundred

1848
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<v Speaker 1>WLW