Speaker 1: Figure out who Johnny Hustle is, Charlie Hustle, Sean killed
Speaker 1: the music. I had another show planned for you tonight.
Speaker 1: You want to make God laugh, tell him your plans.
Speaker 1: Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
Speaker 1: And for Cincinnati Reds fans in many cases across the board,
Speaker 1: for baseball fans who loved great iconic players. Today was
Speaker 1: kind of a punch in the mouth when we got
Speaker 1: the news that and yes, by God, Peter Edward Rose
Speaker 1: had passed at the age of eighty three, not been
Speaker 1: well for a while. That was kind of known. Nobody
Speaker 1: talked about it, including Pete. But it's one of these
Speaker 1: nights where the show that was planned, eh, it goes
Speaker 1: out the window, at least for tonight. I remember December eighth,
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty I was on the air at a station
Speaker 1: in Nashville whatever. I was just young and part time,
Speaker 1: and I was tuning into the station. I wasn't there
Speaker 1: at the time because they were doing a transmitter test
Speaker 1: of their new one hundred thousand transmitter, big deal for us,
Speaker 1: and I was listening to the white noise, the static
Speaker 1: of an FM signal that wasn't there, And then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it kicked in booming, and the first
Speaker 1: words out of the announcer's mouth was John Lennon is dead.
Speaker 1: And for a lot of people, now, John Lennon was
Speaker 1: forty years old, but for a lot of people in
Speaker 1: Cincinnati who were devout Reds fans, this is like the news.
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to do the weird comparison thing,
Speaker 1: but I guess I am Elvis died. The Elvis of
Speaker 1: hitting in Major League Baseball just passed. To get some
Speaker 1: reactions tonight, and I want your reactions. Phone lines are
Speaker 1: going to be open for at least a couple of
Speaker 1: hours five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, but
Speaker 1: we have some regular night tap people on to talk
Speaker 1: about this. And I give him the credit of saying
Speaker 1: he's regular. Andy Furman, Uh, what were your first thoughts
Speaker 1: when you heard that Pete Rose had died?
Speaker 2: First off, the shaker, I'm heartbroken, and I want to
Speaker 2: commend you because the way you introduced this whole situation,
Speaker 2: because the last hour or so, I'm listening to news
Speaker 2: and I'm scanning the dial both on radio and TV,
Speaker 2: and all I hear about is iconic baseball player who
Speaker 2: gambled and gambled. No, this is not a night to
Speaker 2: talk about what he has accomplished or not accomplished. This
Speaker 2: is a night to take care and honor and remember
Speaker 2: one of our own. He was born here in Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: loved the game of baseball, and honestly, Gary Jiff, I
Speaker 2: cannot name five people right hand that have done more
Speaker 2: of an impact in any sport this I've been alive
Speaker 2: and any sport maybe forever you got Michael Jordan and basketball,
Speaker 2: Pete Rose in baseball maybe, I don't know, Tom Brady
Speaker 2: and football, perhaps maybe Jimmy Brown, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: agree Rose is the man, and I don't want to
Speaker 2: talk about what his past wore, accomplishments or his miscues.
Speaker 2: Don't want to talk about that. It's not the time
Speaker 2: of place now.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that forty two to fifty six is.
Speaker 1: It's okay because also it is a time for the
Speaker 1: celebration of a life that brought a lot of joy
Speaker 1: to a lot of fans in sports, especially here in Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: with the Big Red Machine in nineteen season he played.
Speaker 1: He played more games than anybody else, more at bats
Speaker 1: than anybody else, and nobody could hit the ball like
Speaker 1: Pete Rose.
Speaker 2: And more hits than anybody else, Yes.
Speaker 1: More hits than anybody else in the history of the game.
Speaker 1: And the fact that he went through every game sixty
Speaker 1: miles an hour into a brick wall. That's how he played.
Speaker 1: And there was nothing he wouldn't do to try and win.
Speaker 2: But I'm here to remember, and I may have seen
Speaker 2: Pee Rose more off the baseball field than on the
Speaker 2: baseball field.
Speaker 3: Tell me about it.
Speaker 2: Because when I first arrived in Cincinnati, and this is
Speaker 2: back in the fall of eighty one, I was the
Speaker 2: publicist that then Latonia Racecourse, which is now Turfway Park,
Speaker 2: and when baseball season ended, Pete Rose made Latonia Race
Speaker 2: Course his home and I would spend almost every night.
Speaker 2: We raced five six nights a.
Speaker 4: Week during the winter months, and he was there.
Speaker 2: And you know, people will comment about a good bet
Speaker 2: or a different but it's legal to bet on horse racing.
Speaker 2: And he loved the sport of thorough and racing. And
Speaker 2: we got to know one another. And as the time
Speaker 2: wore on, you know, his wife and my wife became friends,
Speaker 2: and they traveled together at times. But more than that,
Speaker 2: I remember a time when I was kind of a
Speaker 2: one percent two percent owner of a minor league baseball
Speaker 2: team in Richmond, Indiana called the Richmond Roosters in the
Speaker 2: Frontier League, which is no more. We sold it years
Speaker 2: ago and they were looking for a guest for their
Speaker 2: All Star dinner. The All Star game was in Richmond, Indiana,
Speaker 2: and Pete Rose came spoke to the to the All
Speaker 2: Stars the day before and stay for the game the
Speaker 2: next night in Richmond, Indiana at the Don McBride Stadium,
Speaker 2: and right after the game. He wanted to get paid
Speaker 2: in cash, and he did, and we took a limo
Speaker 2: out there. Arnie met his good friend and mine and
Speaker 2: we were out there and we came back, and you know,
Speaker 2: it was a wonderful evening.
Speaker 3: So he was a friend.
Speaker 2: And several years later there was a mon league ball
Speaker 2: club in Wilmington and Wilmington, Ohio, and they wanted Pete
Speaker 2: to come there as well. And the only kind of drawback,
Speaker 2: or if you want to say, the reasoning of what
Speaker 2: he wanted in his contract, he wanted to fly there.
Speaker 2: And it was a forty five minute flight from Cincinnati
Speaker 2: and a private plane to Wilmington. However, he still wanted
Speaker 2: to go by plane, so we boarded the plane and
Speaker 2: was Arnie meant myself and Pete. We get up in
Speaker 2: the air and Pete had a tremendous sense of humor.
Speaker 2: May he rest his soul and he says to me
Speaker 2: and Arnie on the flight, did any of you guys
Speaker 2: know how to fly a plane? I said no, Arnie
Speaker 2: says no. We look at one another. What's he talking about?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 2: Well, what happens if the pilot it's a heart attack.
Speaker 2: That's that's Pete Rose's humor. And I got to know
Speaker 2: it first class first.
Speaker 5: But this.
Speaker 1: Is not an odd consideration. I think that he was
Speaker 1: being very pragmatic. Andy anything else real quick, because we
Speaker 1: have the phone lines open and people are starting to
Speaker 1: want to open up about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to hear the people. I really want
Speaker 2: to hear the people talk because you know, you know
Speaker 2: how I feel. I choked up, but I have nothing
Speaker 2: else to say. He's one of those guys in life
Speaker 2: you don't think's ever going to pass. He's always going
Speaker 2: to be there. And when I got the news today,
Speaker 2: I kind of thought it was quote fake news. I
Speaker 2: thought people do that at the times, they just say that,
Speaker 2: but it was confirmed when I heard it I couldn't
Speaker 2: believe it. And I heard you open the show saying
Speaker 2: that we knew he was ill. I never knew he
Speaker 2: was sick. I know he had tremendously bad needs because
Speaker 2: he'd come in to see thout the crump check every
Speaker 2: couple of months to get shots. But other than that,
Speaker 2: I just I have.
Speaker 3: Heard things in confidence. That's all I'm want to say.
Speaker 2: Okay, I believe you know. I mean, I'm not questioning you,
Speaker 2: but I didn't know that he was us signing autographs
Speaker 2: probably seventy two hours ago.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what's the way he is.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: No, he was right up to the end, like I said,
Speaker 1: sixty miles an hour into a brick wall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to thank you, but I want to
Speaker 2: thank you for permitting me to speak my peace and
Speaker 2: the man.
Speaker 4: I loved him, I really did.
Speaker 6: I loved him.
Speaker 2: And I'm not going to stay here and make this
Speaker 2: into an argument.
Speaker 1: Of oh shit, I just cut Andy off now, you
Speaker 1: know what, And he's right, and we're not going to
Speaker 1: talk about an argument about the Hall of Fame. Although
Speaker 1: many of us think that he definitely belongs in the
Speaker 1: Baseball Hall of Fame for his efforts on the field
Speaker 1: and the joy that he gave so many people for
Speaker 1: so many years.
Speaker 3: We have Greg Horde on the line.
Speaker 1: Thank you Greg for taking the time to chime in
Speaker 1: tonight about Pete Rose.
Speaker 7: Hi, Garry, how are you?
Speaker 8: You know what?
Speaker 1: I'm well, I'm still here talking to you, So that
Speaker 1: means that something's going right.
Speaker 9: Yeah, both of us, both of us.
Speaker 3: So your thoughts.
Speaker 10: My thoughts.
Speaker 11: You know, I agree with so much of what Andy said,
Speaker 11: and Andy like Pete was a friend. The thing that
Speaker 11: I think of when I think of Petere's I've never
Speaker 11: known anyone who enjoyed their job more than Pete Rose
Speaker 11: enjoyed his his utter love for every moment that was
Speaker 11: involved with his baseball career as a player. Now as
Speaker 11: a manager, of that kind of changed. But as a player,
Speaker 11: I've never known anyone like that. And I said earlier,
Speaker 11: I was talking to someone. I said that there are
Speaker 11: two things, two moments that I'll never forget about Peet.
Speaker 2: One was the look in his eye.
Speaker 11: The night he broke Ty Cobb's record that night, and
Speaker 11: also the night that I had to confront him with
Speaker 11: the news that baseball had betting slips, and the heartbreak
Speaker 11: that was in his eyes that night, the joy and
Speaker 11: the heartbreak, and then that kind of brings me to
Speaker 11: the thought that, like Andy was talking about, I can't
Speaker 11: think the single soul who has brought this city more
Speaker 11: joy on one hand in his playing career and more
Speaker 11: sorrow with the whole Hall of Fame tortuous.
Speaker 10: Year after year debate.
Speaker 11: And the fact that you know, there's so many of
Speaker 11: us and I had a Hall of Fame vote for
Speaker 11: a long long time. The thing that I think that
Speaker 11: hurts so many of us who had the vote, and
Speaker 11: I won't discuss my feelings about that other than to
Speaker 11: say this, I think that, more than betting, what we
Speaker 11: were hurt by was the fact that he lied and
Speaker 11: we felt like he was a brother and that he
Speaker 11: lied to us about this unfortunate thing. In other words,
Speaker 11: had he just said I did it, damn it, I'm sorry,
Speaker 11: it would have all gone away. And I will forever
Speaker 11: believe that. But that borders on the whole Hall of
Speaker 11: Fame argument that I know you don't want to get into.
Speaker 3: Well, it's not that I didn't.
Speaker 1: Andy didn't want to get into it, and Greg, that's fine,
Speaker 1: But again I would rather talk about the joy part.
Speaker 1: And this is not manufactured joy like a political campaign.
Speaker 1: This is the real joy of watching Pete Rose expend
Speaker 1: every last ounce of his energy and adrenaline on a
Speaker 1: baseball field and just when it took whatever it took,
Speaker 1: sliding had first barreling over somebody, you know, just charging
Speaker 1: a ball like nobody else charged the ball, and Jerry.
Speaker 11: Jeff that this was a common man doing it. This
Speaker 11: was not someone with great talent was this was one
Speaker 11: of us. This was a regular guy who took regular
Speaker 11: a regular guy's talent, but had this heart and this
Speaker 11: soul that drove him, drove him with this spectacular energy
Speaker 11: to reach these feats, and I think that's one of
Speaker 11: the reasons that we all loved the guy.
Speaker 1: Well, Greg, you, like you said, you saw the look
Speaker 1: in his eyes on both occasions person to person, and
Speaker 1: those are just a couple of things that you will
Speaker 1: always remember about Pete Rose, and thank you for sharing
Speaker 1: those with us tonight.
Speaker 7: Quite welcome, Jerry Jeff, thanks for asking you.
Speaker 3: Bet Doug in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: We got a few minutes before the break you were
Speaker 1: on early What are your thoughts about the passing of
Speaker 1: Pete Rose.
Speaker 12: Gary Jeff, it's really good to talk to you. I'll
Speaker 12: be honest with you. My wife was out and she
Speaker 12: called me, said, Pete Rose died. I didn't know, and
Speaker 12: my first thought was, thank god, now he's going to
Speaker 12: get into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: Wow, it's Isn't that sad that we have have to
Speaker 3: be faced.
Speaker 6: It's very sad.
Speaker 12: Gary, Jeff, I've been a Reds fan for I'm I'm
Speaker 12: I'm your age. I'll be sixty four this year. I've
Speaker 12: been following the Red.
Speaker 3: Since telling hey, quit telling people my age.
Speaker 6: I know how you are.
Speaker 12: Actually you're you're lit roader than me, so that means
Speaker 12: you're right.
Speaker 3: Ahead.
Speaker 12: Anyway, Pete Rose, to me was the greatest ballplayer in
Speaker 12: the history of the world. And I'm just saying because
Speaker 12: you got four thousand and two of some hits with
Speaker 12: the talent and he was an average guy, he should
Speaker 12: There's no reason why he should not be and he
Speaker 12: will be in the Hall of Fame now because he's passed.
Speaker 12: And that's really sad, it really is.
Speaker 3: It shouldn't it shouldn't have been a discussion.
Speaker 1: You know, jeez, there's a possibility, and and you know
Speaker 1: people talking that, you know, Barry Bonds and the other
Speaker 1: players never get into the Hall of Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: because of the performance enhancing drugs and all of that
Speaker 1: that the MLB gave a nod and a wink two
Speaker 1: back in the mid nineties when they wanted the crowds
Speaker 1: to come back after the strike, and so they allowed
Speaker 1: this to happen and then blame the players and blackballed them,
Speaker 1: and those people are black balled. I think it should
Speaker 1: be a measure of what you did on the field,
Speaker 1: not anything to do with your moral character. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: some of my friends will disagree with me, but the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame is about what you did, you were
Speaker 1: famous for in the field of play while you were playing,
Speaker 1: and nothing else. And Doug, thank you for sharing your
Speaker 1: thoughts about Pete. It's gonna be, like I said, hard
Speaker 1: for people to start. Yeah, real quick, go.
Speaker 12: Ahead, Garret, Jeff, I'll listened to you every Saturday morning.
Speaker 12: And my mother in law is a she's eighty three
Speaker 12: and she's a Pete Rose. He's in tears because of
Speaker 12: Pete Rose. And I just wanting to say it's a
Speaker 12: sad day, but it's a happy day because I really
Speaker 12: believe Pete Rose is going to get in the Hall
Speaker 12: of Fame. Because of this.
Speaker 1: Well, as a Christian, I'm hoping it's a happy day
Speaker 1: in the celebratory day for Pete because he's now.
Speaker 6: An and you know what, one more thing, Go Trump,
Speaker 6: Go Trump.
Speaker 3: All right, Doug, Thanks, it's talking.
Speaker 1: It's talking about Pete, Pete Rose on the nightcap on
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW A.
Speaker 5: Sparky and my dear friend John McNamara and all the
Speaker 5: way to Lupnella and Tony Perez, Davy Johnson, Ray Knight
Speaker 5: and my buddy Jack McKeon and all the coaches that
Speaker 5: worked under them for also helping me in my education
Speaker 5: of this wonderful game, and all the players over the
Speaker 5: last twenty seven years, even the guys who didn't particularly
Speaker 5: care for my style and some still don't today, but
Speaker 5: especially the guys that are here. Two who are already
Speaker 5: in Johnny Bench, Joe Morgan, and one who's being inducted today,
Speaker 5: Tony Perez, very vital parts of the big Red machine.
Speaker 5: They were not only business associates for one of a
Speaker 5: better term, they were also and still are today very
Speaker 5: good friends.
Speaker 3: And those from that.
Speaker 5: Team who should be in the hall, and Art.
Speaker 3: Bob Housen. Bob Housen who built.
Speaker 5: Two world championship organizations in Saint Louis and Cincinnati. Davey Concepts,
Speaker 5: the owned who was the pre eminent shortstop of his time.
Speaker 1: And Yes, by God, Peter Edward Rhodes, Yes, by God,
Speaker 1: Peter Edward Rose. Marty Brenneman was asked by many people.
Speaker 1: He told me not to mention Pete Rose at his
Speaker 1: induction ceremony when Marty became a Hall of Famer. That's
Speaker 1: what I recall from the conversation. But there was no
Speaker 1: way that you were going to keep Marty Brenneman silent
Speaker 1: about what he thought about the hit King, Pete Rose,
Speaker 1: who passed away today at the age of eighty three.
Speaker 1: To talk a little bit more about the hit King,
Speaker 1: and the phone lines are open till eleven o'clock tonight
Speaker 1: five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, eight hundred. The
Speaker 1: Big One, Gary Jeff on a special night cap on
Speaker 1: a special said, and like I said, if you look
Speaker 1: at it, a certain way of celebratory night as we
Speaker 1: remember Peter Edward Rose and Jim Lebarbara, who knew Pete
Speaker 1: and has some stories for us, Professor, We we had
Speaker 1: another we had another show planned with each other tonight
Speaker 1: but that's gonna happen next week, I guess. But tonight
Speaker 1: you're here on behalf of Pete Rose and his fantastic legacy.
Speaker 3: So tell me what you got.
Speaker 13: Yeah, what a great Did you ever know anybody who
Speaker 13: was more passionate, who had more blove for baseball than
Speaker 13: Pete Rose? No one, no one, And it would have
Speaker 13: been a great ambassador for baseball. And it hit me
Speaker 13: like a blow to the stomach the santnoon to say,
Speaker 13: I had a great love affair with Pete Rose, and
Speaker 13: Pete had that love affair with Cincinnati. And he's one
Speaker 13: of the first people I met when I came to Cincinnati,
Speaker 13: went on a cruise with Pete and his wife's and
Speaker 13: there I can still see him sitting by the poolside
Speaker 13: the Anthony with a T shirt on, the long pants,
Speaker 13: working on the tan. And I can remember one night
Speaker 13: and Scar a Lot is the tngue in Pete's at.
Speaker 9: The bar are.
Speaker 13: Ye didn't drink. He's at the bar area, you know,
Speaker 13: sitting down with somebody having dinner, and drug came up
Speaker 13: to Pete gave him all kinds of statics, and I said,
Speaker 13: oh man, you gotta get Scar a Lot over here
Speaker 13: to get get this gunk out of here, and before
Speaker 13: you know it, Pete won the guy over. He's buying
Speaker 13: him a drink, and a guy loves Pete Rose, and
Speaker 13: that was Pete Rose. One of the most memorable nights
Speaker 13: I ever had carry Jeff was teeth Con party had
Speaker 13: a tennis tournament, celebrity tennis tournament, and after the tournament,
Speaker 13: I stuck around with Pete Rose and Tank Klezuski and
Speaker 13: the wives and we set around and I was just there.
Speaker 13: I mean, the two of them were talking baseball, and
Speaker 13: it was magic because as much lully as that Ted had,
Speaker 13: of course, and there's Pete town toe and Ted every
Speaker 13: pitch that he got.
Speaker 6: To hit on.
Speaker 13: He knew everything about baseball. And I really thought that
Speaker 13: when Pete Rose came and said, okay, yes, I've been
Speaker 13: on baseball, that baseball would have taken that and used him,
Speaker 13: used him, used Pete Rose as an ambassador to take
Speaker 13: him and just dragging around all the spring training sites
Speaker 13: to talk to the young guys, to say, guys, I
Speaker 13: messed up, I screwed up, and here's what you should do.
Speaker 13: He would have been a great ambassador for the minor
Speaker 13: leagues and for major League Baseball and because Baseball had
Speaker 13: that chip on his shoulder, hopefully it's going to drop
Speaker 13: off now. They could have used him, you know, and
Speaker 13: so many times partying and the last in the final
Speaker 13: game at the Riverfront that they had he wasn't allowed
Speaker 13: to play and walk into the States, but they had
Speaker 13: that big game at the end of Drew capacity clown
Speaker 13: and he had me and invited me to play in
Speaker 13: that celebrity game. The only had two disc jockeings that
Speaker 13: I want you to be the so wonderful memories of
Speaker 13: of the Pete Rose and uh, you know, the love
Speaker 13: of thread this town had with with the hit king.
Speaker 13: I mean it's you know, and all the joy and
Speaker 13: all the happiness he gave him the Queen City.
Speaker 12: I mean, it's it's just.
Speaker 13: Amazing and we love him.
Speaker 12: And sympathy of course with his family and David his wife.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, Jim talking to Jim Lear Barbara
Speaker 1: about Pete Rose. There is nobody that I know that's
Speaker 1: a bigger baseball fan than you. Uh many that are
Speaker 1: probably would say, yeah, I'm right up there with But
Speaker 1: I know you love to go to the games. You've
Speaker 1: followed the Reds you've suffered and you've celebrated, and tonight
Speaker 1: we're remembering. So thanks, thanks, thanks for chiming in. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Nancy, good evening, Welcome to the nightcap on
Speaker 1: seven hundred w l W.
Speaker 3: As we remember Pete Rose.
Speaker 14: By Gary Jets in a while started to reconnect on
Speaker 14: such sad news. Sincere condolences to Pete's family and friends
Speaker 14: and fellow ball players.
Speaker 10: We had a Our.
Speaker 14: Family had a special connection with Pete on many fronts.
Speaker 14: My dad played ball with him before he went to
Speaker 14: the major leagues, and our family business, we were a Beard.
Speaker 14: We were the first and last Beard distributorship for who
Speaker 14: to post shangling products and we sponsored all the teams
Speaker 14: that Pete played on our distributorship did. My brother, Doug
Speaker 14: was named after Pete because he was born on Pete
Speaker 14: Rose's birthday. Each named Douglas Edward after Peter Edward. I
Speaker 14: am the same age as son Renee, and my cousin
Speaker 14: is the same age as p D.
Speaker 9: Junior.
Speaker 14: So lots of family connections, but again, just a sad
Speaker 14: day for everyone.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 14: He's being welcomed with open arms by many, like Joe Morgan,
Speaker 14: others that have gone before us, my dad, my uncle,
Speaker 14: all people that he played with. He wrote about his
Speaker 14: days of playing, you know with my dad and and
Speaker 14: my uncle. They're they're included in one of his books.
Speaker 14: I just can't say enough good things.
Speaker 10: I mean, even.
Speaker 14: Carolyn, his uh first wife. We knew her well when
Speaker 14: she went ran the wagon wheel because obviously, being a
Speaker 14: distributor of beautiful sham ring products, we distributed.
Speaker 3: A lot of cross paths cross.
Speaker 14: Yes, just a little, but my again, sincere condolences, and
Speaker 14: may he rest in peace, and may those who those
Speaker 14: who know and love him, you know, hopefully, as your
Speaker 14: previous color mentioned, you know, hopefully now we see him
Speaker 14: get into the Hall of Fame. But it's it's slowly
Speaker 14: a shame that it took something like this to make
Speaker 14: that happen.
Speaker 3: If it happens, well, I hope right now he's seeing
Speaker 3: the Lord. Oh thank you. Keith and Dayton.
Speaker 4: Hello, Hi Gary, how you doing?
Speaker 3: I'm doing fine? What do you got?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 4: I'm staring at a Mizzuno black Mazzuno baseball bat with
Speaker 4: Pete's autograph on it.
Speaker 2: Oh nice, And.
Speaker 4: He personally gave it to me. And this story goes
Speaker 4: back some twenty two twenty three years ago. You know,
Speaker 4: I was telling your producer that I wanted to share
Speaker 4: a story that would that that at least showed the
Speaker 4: humanitarian quote unquote Christian side of him, even if he
Speaker 4: was or wasn't. But in my in my association with
Speaker 4: Pete during a few years, he was a very giving man,
Speaker 4: uh to uh provide some things that you know that
Speaker 4: were used to raise money for charities, you know, and
Speaker 4: when we when we talk about the character issue, you know,
Speaker 4: I know we talked about the character issue regarding the
Speaker 4: betting stuff, but you know, the the peat that I
Speaker 4: got to know. Uh, I'm sorry, I'm just really upset
Speaker 4: because this was a very big time.
Speaker 1: Listen, this is this is an emotional moment for a
Speaker 1: lot of people, just the final, the finality of the
Speaker 1: letting go of this guy that has so captivated their
Speaker 1: interest in the Cincinnati Reads over all these years.
Speaker 3: I totally get it, Keith.
Speaker 4: So, I don't know if you remember who How McCoy was. Okay,
Speaker 4: I was How McCoy's paper boy for the tait And
Speaker 4: Daily News, and I had been I had been wanting
Speaker 4: to tell How this story because this story is just amazing. Really,
Speaker 4: how we met I owned a nightclub down in Delray
Speaker 4: Beach in from about two thousand and two thousand and
Speaker 4: four in Delray Beach, Florida, and a lot of people
Speaker 4: that would live in South Florida would know that Pete.
Speaker 4: Pete did apparently a licensing deal with you know, restaurants
Speaker 4: chain or something they opened. They had Pete Roses in
Speaker 4: Boca Ratone. Okay, because Pete did a lot of time
Speaker 4: down there. But I owned a nightclub in Delray Beach.
Speaker 4: Was very very popular and uh, you couldn't get a
Speaker 4: seat on the weekends. No, no tables were allowed to
Speaker 4: be you know, uh you know, held or anything, just
Speaker 4: because it was that popular. And one of my friends
Speaker 4: came to me and said, you know, Keith, can you
Speaker 4: can you pay a seat for me or a table
Speaker 4: for me till ten? I'm like, you know that, I
Speaker 4: never do that. She went, you know what, please trust
Speaker 4: me on this. I promised it'll be worth it. So
Speaker 4: I was already up on stage at the club. I
Speaker 4: was the main performer. And I'm trying to make this
Speaker 4: a short because I don't want to. I don't want
Speaker 4: to take a lot of time. But it was, it was,
Speaker 4: It was butts and elbows is what it was in there.
Speaker 4: And so about ten fifteen rolls around and finally she
Speaker 4: gets there. She looks at me. She apologizes for run late,
Speaker 4: but then she points to her left and two people
Speaker 4: down from her was Pete. Okay, now you got to
Speaker 4: understand something. You know, I grew up here in Dayton
Speaker 4: I followed the big red machine like everybody else, and
Speaker 4: Pete was my man.
Speaker 3: And I even tried to.
Speaker 4: You know, do I would switch hitter, and you know,
Speaker 4: I tried to imitated stance and stuff. You know, I'm
Speaker 4: you know, ten years old. And so there is my
Speaker 4: all time baseball hero looking at me while I'm up
Speaker 4: on stage.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: Do you ever get to meet it?
Speaker 4: And they go hold on wall. Yeah. So so bottom
Speaker 4: line is he goes, sits at the table, and I
Speaker 4: went into high gear and I do a lot of
Speaker 4: comedy bits and routines up on the stage. When when
Speaker 4: when I'm up there, and by the time I had
Speaker 4: done this one routine, Pete was laughing so hard that
Speaker 4: that his drink came out.
Speaker 6: Of his nose.
Speaker 1: And people are just listen, Keith, I got other people
Speaker 1: that want to share. But thank you so much for
Speaker 1: doing this tonight. All right, all right, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: take care Brad in Indiana Memories of Pete Rose tonight
Speaker 1: on the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 3: What's up with you?
Speaker 12: How are you doing tonight?
Speaker 3: We're doing fine? Talk to me.
Speaker 15: Well, just you know, I was born in nineteen seventy eight,
Speaker 15: so Pete Rose was, you know, one of the very
Speaker 15: first players that I have remembered watching.
Speaker 4: I still remember my parents taking me.
Speaker 15: To a Red Padres game in eighty five, and I'm
Speaker 15: always thankful for that because I got a chance to
Speaker 15: keep Pete and you know, one of his final.
Speaker 4: Two years of baseball.
Speaker 15: But a really neat story is about ten years ago. Uh,
Speaker 15: me and college roommates that we go to Cincinnati every
Speaker 15: weekend or every every summer for a weekend of games,
Speaker 15: and we go to a waffle house for breakfast, and
Speaker 15: I had happened to have a Pete Roach shirt on
Speaker 15: the you know, said still hustling shows him diving into
Speaker 15: third base, and UH walked out of this waffle house
Speaker 15: and we get ready to get in our vehicle to
Speaker 15: go park to a head up the Great American and
Speaker 15: uh there was a family got out and said you know,
Speaker 15: Pete Bose is in that Holiday inn right now. And
Speaker 15: I said, we thought they were joking. He said, no, no,
Speaker 15: he is. So we walked We walked in there and
Speaker 15: you know, he was talking to somebody. I wasn't gonna
Speaker 15: hound him.
Speaker 16: Uh.
Speaker 15: We walked in there and he was just sitting himself
Speaker 15: at a table, and Uh, I just went up and
Speaker 15: introduced myself. Didn't ask for an autograph. I'm to the
Speaker 15: age where autographs really aren't that big of a deal.
Speaker 15: I'd rather just meet somebody and have my picture taken
Speaker 15: with him. And uh, you know, I just asked for
Speaker 15: a photo, and you know, he just kind of engaged
Speaker 15: in conversation with me, and we just kind of spoke
Speaker 15: for probably four or five minutes, just about baseball in general.
Speaker 15: And uh, you know, I think he had just went
Speaker 15: out to uh Vegas for a big interview with Jim Day.
Speaker 15: I think Fox Ohio did like a three or four
Speaker 15: part series with him that they showed at that time.
Speaker 15: And uh, yeah, I got Jim Day a free free
Speaker 15: trip out to Vegas out of that whole de least six.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 15: But but anyway, it was just really neat to you know,
Speaker 15: meet meet you know, one of my heroes growing up
Speaker 15: and one of my dad you know favorite players. You know, yeah, you're.
Speaker 1: Probably one of the younger people calling in right now
Speaker 1: they can remember Pete Rose playing Brad.
Speaker 3: But absolutely, thank you fans.
Speaker 1: Of the Big Red Machine and all was Pete Rose.
Speaker 1: Real quickly, let's go to Carl in Park Hills. You're
Speaker 1: on the air, Carl on seven Hunter WLW.
Speaker 17: Gary, thank you for doing this. This is journalism at
Speaker 17: its best, and great job on coming in live tonight.
Speaker 17: I've got a story about Pete. First of all, the
Speaker 17: fact that he's from Sailor Park is just perfect. There's
Speaker 17: no other neighborhood than the West Side.
Speaker 6: Down by the river that Pete could have ever come from.
Speaker 17: And Boldface Park should have thousands of flowers by tomorrow morning.
Speaker 17: So anyway, I had an next girlfriend that was working
Speaker 17: at a Japanese restaurant out near the airport in hebron Kentucky.
Speaker 17: One night she came home and said, guess who I
Speaker 17: serve tonight?
Speaker 6: And I said who? And she said Pete Rose and
Speaker 6: his wife. And I said, wow, how was that?
Speaker 17: And she said, well, he was wearing a keel and
Speaker 17: Fusha track.
Speaker 6: Suit and tennis shoes.
Speaker 17: And this is a traditional Japanese restaurant that the owners
Speaker 17: of the Coyota Corporation actually had installed into their headquarters,
Speaker 17: into their national headquarters. And she said, Pete came in
Speaker 17: and sat down with his wife and she asked, you
Speaker 17: know what they wanted, and he ordered and then she
Speaker 17: brought out this traditional Japanese meal with the chopsticks and
Speaker 17: the tea, and he said.
Speaker 6: Honey, you got a fork anywhere back there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pete was not a chopsticks guy. There's no doubt
Speaker 1: about that. Thanks Carl, I appreciate that. Wild Man Walker.
Speaker 1: We got a break in about a minute, so I
Speaker 1: want you to call back after the news at ten.
Speaker 3: Will do there.
Speaker 1: I mean, there was nobody I would rather talk to
Speaker 1: about Pete Rose than one Dennis Wildman Walker, and we
Speaker 1: will do that after the break, which we have to
Speaker 1: take now on seven Hunter WLW. It is a Monday night.
Speaker 1: It is not the night camp we had planned, but
Speaker 1: again the best laid plans and all of that. Gary
Speaker 1: Jeff Walker with you and for the next hour more
Speaker 1: of your memories of Pete Rose, the wild Man and
Speaker 1: some more surprises, I'm sure between now and eleven o'clock
Speaker 1: as we continue on seven hundred WLW bikes. Who passed
Speaker 1: at the age of eighty three earlier today is home
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas from my friend Mitch, who's in law enforcement.
Speaker 1: He writes, in the late nineties, I was working security
Speaker 1: at Riverdowns on Kellogg Avenue bel Terra. Today I saw
Speaker 1: Pete sitting with another guy all by themselves at a
Speaker 1: table on the second level with a stack of cash.
Speaker 1: So I walked over and introduced myself and asked him
Speaker 1: for an autograph. Long story short, I got his autograph
Speaker 1: on the back of a racing form. How funny. Thanks Mitch,
Speaker 1: appreciate your Sharon, and it's your turn to share again
Speaker 1: for this hour. As we were Pete Rose, the hit King,
Speaker 1: Charlie Hussel, one of the greatest players ever to put
Speaker 1: on a uniform in the entirety of Major League Baseball,
Speaker 1: from the day that Abner Doubleday invented something that came
Speaker 1: to be this game to now you think about in
Speaker 1: the pantheon of greats in Major League Baseball, there's Ty Cobb,
Speaker 1: who Pete Rose would best in his career. There's Babe Ruth,
Speaker 1: There's lou gerrig there are names that are too numerous
Speaker 1: for me to go through all of them. But in
Speaker 1: that group of players, in that select group of players
Speaker 1: that will always be cemented as the best of their
Speaker 1: times in their prime, Pete Rose is right there with
Speaker 1: all of them, no question. Here's a guy who loved
Speaker 1: Pete Rose more than anybody I know, really, I mean
Speaker 1: outside of a blood relative. Wild Man Walker joining us
Speaker 1: to remember Pete Rose. Wild Man, Well, what's up there, Garry, Jeff?
Speaker 1: Talk to me? How are you feeling tonight? What are
Speaker 1: you feeling, How are you remembering Pete? How do you
Speaker 1: think Pete should be remembered? How Willie be remembered? And
Speaker 1: is this the time now where they will consider actually
Speaker 1: admitting him to the Baseball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 18: Well, first off, I'm pretty numb because when I heard
Speaker 18: the news, I was on the West Side this evening
Speaker 18: having dinner at Ron's Roost, ironically on the West Side,
Speaker 18: and just before I got into the Deer Park area,
Speaker 18: my friend it was with me, it popped up on
Speaker 18: her phone that Pete had passed, and the first I
Speaker 18: looked at it and said, I've seen this crap before,
Speaker 18: And then it was like three or four different sites
Speaker 18: were reporting that he had passed, and then of course
Speaker 18: my phone started blowing up and everybody was calling me.
Speaker 18: So heard it was confirmed, And of course, you know,
Speaker 18: I listened to WLW seven thirty and eight and eight
Speaker 18: thirty two and one Shawn Gallagher who reported this is
Speaker 18: a classic case of somebody not doing their homework.
Speaker 3: Scary Jeff.
Speaker 18: He reported that Pete Rose came back as Reds manager
Speaker 18: in nineteen eighty six. That's wrong. It was nineteen eighty four,
Speaker 18: August sixteenth.
Speaker 6: Okay, number one.
Speaker 18: And then he goes on I think at nine o'clock
Speaker 18: and call it him Johnny Hustle.
Speaker 12: How does a guy like this have a job?
Speaker 18: Is it that hard to do your to do your homework? Pete, Peter,
Speaker 18: It's obviousness. It was obvious, scary Jeff wild even around
Speaker 18: and Pete Rose got banned.
Speaker 1: Wild Man, I just thought that was crap. Wild Man.
Speaker 1: We're not here to lambast other people. We're here to
Speaker 1: honor Pete. And I understand what it was.
Speaker 18: Well, you're doing when you do a story, you gotta
Speaker 18: get it right. Okay, But again talking about Pete, let's
Speaker 18: talk about the Baseball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6: Just before Pete passed.
Speaker 18: I saw I saw some comments from him that said,
Speaker 18: you know, really, I don't know if I really care
Speaker 18: about it, because it's for the families.
Speaker 3: It's for the families to enjoy and the fans to enjoy.
Speaker 18: And I don't really think Major League Baseball will put
Speaker 18: him in I don't think they will.
Speaker 3: I do not think they will.
Speaker 18: The Reds need to have a funeral at the ballpark
Speaker 18: because they're going to be so many people that want
Speaker 18: to pay their respects. They did have the funeral for
Speaker 18: the late Tom Browning there, so why not do it
Speaker 18: for Pete. I'm just hoping if they do this, someone
Speaker 18: from Major League Baseball better not be there because we
Speaker 18: don't want them mucking it up. And here you got
Speaker 18: ESPN and all these other talking heads tonight. They're not
Speaker 18: even talking about Pete's great career with numbers that people
Speaker 18: will never ever, ever ever surpass forty two to fifty six,
Speaker 18: will will never be broken, will never be broken. And
Speaker 18: they're talking about his gambling, his gambling when they're attached
Speaker 18: to the hip major League Baseball, to every gambling site
Speaker 18: in the country. It's so hypocritical, it really is. I mean,
Speaker 18: we're talking about how great demand was and what he
Speaker 18: did for baseball, what he did for baseball, What did
Speaker 18: he do for you?
Speaker 6: What he do for me?
Speaker 18: He was great to me, man cherished the time that
Speaker 18: guy had around him. Just recently when he was in town,
Speaker 18: when he signed a bunch of books for me, I
Speaker 18: mean recently.
Speaker 6: And we got a video.
Speaker 18: From him from my upcoming documentary, which will just blow
Speaker 18: the doors off when you see the comments that he made.
Speaker 18: I mean, he was always great to me, even before
Speaker 18: I even knew him. I mean, I don't know how
Speaker 18: many times I asked him for an autograph when I
Speaker 18: was a young kid, and he always signed for me,
Speaker 18: which was great. But he was a great guy. He
Speaker 18: had his flaws. I've got my flaws. You've got your flaws,
Speaker 18: you know. But as a baseball player, and this is
Speaker 18: what I said in my first book, Gary Jeff, and
Speaker 18: I'm sure you recall I could care less what Pete
Speaker 18: Rose did off the field, I really could, you know.
Speaker 18: I admired him as a baseball player for how he
Speaker 18: played the game, and he played it right. I mean,
Speaker 18: the Hall of Fame is for stats, s T A
Speaker 18: T S.
Speaker 4: Stats.
Speaker 18: It's not for choir boys. Babe Bruce wasn't a choir boy.
Speaker 18: Chris Speaker was an a choir boy. Ty Cobb wasn't
Speaker 18: acchoiir boy, I can go down the list thought, you know,
Speaker 18: I go down the list and give you awn kind
Speaker 18: of guys. You know, skeletons in their closet. You know,
Speaker 18: Pete should be in the Hall, no.
Speaker 6: Doubt about it. But I don't think major League Baseball
Speaker 6: is going.
Speaker 1: To do it.
Speaker 6: I really don't.
Speaker 3: Wild Man.
Speaker 1: I can tell that you are very emotional, and I'm
Speaker 1: not surprised, and I invited you to call in tonight,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate you. You're putting your two cents worth.
Speaker 1: Then I believe he belongs in the Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: as well. And whether that happens or not, we will see.
Speaker 1: Time will tell. It is to be written.
Speaker 18: Yet, Well, I just hoped that the Reds, like I said,
Speaker 18: to have the funeral at the ballpark, get Pete's family
Speaker 18: so desired because it'll be great. It'll be a great turnout.
Speaker 18: Reds fans from everywhere would turnout, and well they should.
Speaker 18: I mean, I like the comments that Bob Castellini just
Speaker 18: recently came out and talked about the passing and ip.
Speaker 18: Those were great comments, they really were. I mean, Pete
Speaker 18: Rose is the Cincinnati Reds.
Speaker 6: He always will be.
Speaker 18: Pete Rose is the Cincinnati Reds.
Speaker 1: God bless you, wild Man. Thank you for sharing tonight. Man,
Speaker 1: that was some blood letting brick in West Virginia. Hello,
Speaker 1: you were on the air on the night Cap on
Speaker 1: seven hundred w l W with our fingers on the
Speaker 1: dump button.
Speaker 9: Now, hey, Gary, Jeff so hard to find, hard to
Speaker 9: follow that bringing docious guy there. But anyway, a lifelong
Speaker 9: Pirates fan calling in from West Virginia. Yeah, and Pete
Speaker 9: Rose was one of my heroes back in the day.
Speaker 9: Wellsburg Little League. We learned or we were taught from
Speaker 9: Pete out of dive and slide in the second base,
Speaker 9: third day, hope plate whatever it is, and we also
Speaker 9: learned how to switch it because of Pete. So whatever
Speaker 9: you guys think it is fine. I think he deserves
Speaker 9: to be in the Hall of Fame. The writers are
Speaker 9: all they're old. That's old white guys who vote.
Speaker 16: On that thing.
Speaker 9: They're out of date. And Pete needs to be in
Speaker 9: the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: Well, you know that's just my.
Speaker 1: Whole thing is. Thank you, Eric, My whole thing is
Speaker 1: Bargie and Maddy's dead. Pete Rose is dead. I mean,
Speaker 1: what are you holding off for? Dick from Dayton. Good evening, sir.
Speaker 19: Oh, Jerry Jeff. Good to talk to you.
Speaker 3: Hey, this is important, Dick.
Speaker 1: Dick's birthday is the same as Pete's April fourteenth.
Speaker 19: Jerry Jeff and I want to say something about him,
Speaker 19: Jerry Jeff. For the years that you you loved Dave
Speaker 19: and I, but you told every every birthday that he
Speaker 19: and it was just so neat. Nobody has done as
Speaker 19: much as you like Dave and everybody. I think, Jerry
Speaker 19: Jeff in my heart, that he should be inducted to
Speaker 19: the Hall of Fake He was a leader for those Reds.
Speaker 19: Jerry Jeff and I want to say something. He is
Speaker 19: great and they need to put him in.
Speaker 20: It's a sad day and baseball hits week.
Speaker 3: Jerry Jeff, Well, Dick.
Speaker 1: Thank you for being a part of our remembrance tonight,
Speaker 1: A little memorial ceremony in the wake of Pete Rose's
Speaker 1: death today is passing at the age of eighty three.
Speaker 1: George Vogel, Good evening, and thank you for bringing some
Speaker 1: kind of semblance of sanity to this conversation tonight about
Speaker 1: one of the greatest baseball players that ever played or lived,
Speaker 1: and we're talking, of course about number fourteen.
Speaker 3: How you doing, George, Oh, doing well, doing well.
Speaker 20: It's definitely a sad day in this greater Cincinnati area,
Speaker 20: Reds Land, Reds country. It's a tough one, and you know,
Speaker 20: it's certainly a polarizing figure for a while. But when
Speaker 20: you look back at everything the guy did for the
Speaker 20: Cincinnati Reds, what he did for baseball, the notoriety he
Speaker 20: brought to the Reds in the city and the team
Speaker 20: and his leg see and everything else, it's it's a
Speaker 20: sad day and skill just very very What upsets me
Speaker 20: is the Hall of Fame piece of it. He should
Speaker 20: have been in before this happened.
Speaker 1: Can you can you give me some more personal perspectives
Speaker 1: of Pete and the time, if any, that you had
Speaker 1: spent with him over the years or even more recently.
Speaker 20: George, Yeah, he was He was obviously very funny guy,
Speaker 20: very interesting guy, had stories you know, longer than his
Speaker 20: arms to tell all day. And he loved when he
Speaker 20: was manager and when I started in television and reporting
Speaker 20: and we still had the REPI Games on WLW Television WLWT,
Speaker 20: and we did red shows. We did something called the
Speaker 20: Pete and Johnny Show with Pete and Johnny Bench, and
Speaker 20: I was one of the guys that would go out
Speaker 20: and shoot these segments with them, and we'd be different
Speaker 20: parts of the city, you know, different players homes or whatever,
Speaker 20: do all these away from the field spots. And we
Speaker 20: shot one spot one time. And this is this is
Speaker 20: what people would tell you about Pete because he treated
Speaker 20: us young members of the media the same way. He'd
Speaker 20: sit in the office and just talk to us about
Speaker 20: anything for hours, all the time in the world. We
Speaker 20: were out shooting in Norwood at this little carry out,
Speaker 20: this convenience store, and you know, Pete Rose and Johnny
Speaker 20: Bench are in there on a afternoon of the game day,
Speaker 20: getting ready to head down to the ballpark, shooting this
Speaker 20: video in this little store on the corner. And you know,
Speaker 20: people were coming in going, wait a minute, what are
Speaker 20: these two doing here? And Pete Rose sat there and
Speaker 20: talked to people in that convenience. We're done shooting. He
Speaker 20: can go down to the ballpark. It's probably about two
Speaker 20: two thirty. He probably wants to get down there. Around
Speaker 20: three point thirty. He spent easily an hour sitting in
Speaker 20: there talking to the lady who runs the place, having
Speaker 20: an ice cream with a kid, and just talking to people.
Speaker 20: And he was, you know, certainly had his faults, but
Speaker 20: he was he was really good and really a man
Speaker 20: of the people, so to speak.
Speaker 1: No doubt, And I've heard that time and time again.
Speaker 1: My only experience with Pete in person in a in
Speaker 1: an interpersonal situation was an interview he was doing some
Speaker 1: charity thing with the then Cincinnati Mighty Ducks at the
Speaker 1: time out at the Old Gardens and there was some
Speaker 1: charity thing he was involved when and he came into
Speaker 1: the studio in the Fox when I was on in
Speaker 1: the afternoons, and I found him to be one of
Speaker 1: the most just engaging people personally to talk.
Speaker 3: To in the world. I mean, yes, he had that.
Speaker 1: He gave that impression to everyone that he came into
Speaker 1: contact with who had an open mind and said, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll just talk to this guy. What's he all about?
Speaker 1: And he was just as normal and as down to
Speaker 1: earth as anybody else you could imagine. And it was
Speaker 1: just like a conversation with two old friends. And I'd
Speaker 1: never met him before.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's how he was.
Speaker 20: And but you know, you get him on the field,
Speaker 20: and he was more competitive than probably anyone I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: I think I'd say, I'd say that Michael Jordan probably
Speaker 1: comes as close to Pete Rose as anything when it
Speaker 1: comes to a competitive nature.
Speaker 20: Yes, when you when when you know you're running full
Speaker 20: speed ahead over a catcher to decide an All Star game,
Speaker 20: albeit in his hometown, that's a competitive son of a
Speaker 20: gun right there. And they said in his high school
Speaker 20: playing days in football, they said he was one of
Speaker 20: the hardest hitters this city he's ever seen as a
Speaker 20: high school football player. I believe it because he was
Speaker 20: he was driven.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it proves one thing that that was
Speaker 1: one hard head, because that guy, that guy would run
Speaker 1: through us through a brick wall at sixty miles an hour.
Speaker 1: Like I said said earlier, all the time when he
Speaker 1: was in a competitive situation on the field.
Speaker 20: Yes, and I I that hardhead didn't serve him well
Speaker 20: when it came to you know, and then they call
Speaker 20: them for what happened with the betting thing. But I
Speaker 20: do feel like, you know, while he mishandled it for
Speaker 20: a decade or so, I feel like baseball pretty well mishandled.
Speaker 6: It for the past decade.
Speaker 20: I mean, at some point, I get it, you got
Speaker 20: this hard and past rule and he's out of baseball.
Speaker 20: But the Hall of Fame thing was a little separate
Speaker 20: that that should not have been involved in this, but
Speaker 20: it was. But at some point, don't those people look
Speaker 20: back and say, Okay, enough is enough. This guy has
Speaker 20: more legitimate hits than any player in the history of
Speaker 20: major leagues.
Speaker 3: Because George's Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: George, you have been in the business, and we're in
Speaker 1: the business long enough. I've been in the business long
Speaker 1: enough to know that those wrongly self righteous sobs will
Speaker 1: never bend or break because they think there I don't
Speaker 1: know that there's some kind of hierarchy and in the
Speaker 1: Pope's quart or something. Many of those writers who vote
Speaker 1: are just so high on their own pedestals that they
Speaker 1: can't see their butt.
Speaker 20: So yeah, it's it's something that should have been uh,
Speaker 20: should have been rectified by now, and it's it's just
Speaker 20: a shame. This day is tom and you know paints
Speaker 20: time's in Cooperstown, were you know, sitting at tables signing
Speaker 20: autographs for people as opposed to being up on that
Speaker 20: stage and and and giving his acceptance speech into that
Speaker 20: great Hall of Fame, George still called great Hall of Fame,
Speaker 20: but it'd be a lot greater if they had the
Speaker 20: all time hit leader in there.
Speaker 1: George, my friend Rageous text me and said, if there
Speaker 1: is no Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame, there
Speaker 1: is no Hall of Fame. I appreciate your time, sir,
Speaker 1: and your knowledge and your perspective.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: You bet you Chris and been waiting a long time.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We've got a lot of people on the line.
Speaker 1: Do you have a quick comment here before we go
Speaker 1: to break?
Speaker 21: Yes, I do, Gary, Jeff a great show. My understanding
Speaker 21: is in order for Pete to get in the Hall
Speaker 21: of Fame, they would have to put Shoe with Joe
Speaker 21: Jackson in first Have you heard that?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 1: I'm all in favor. I am in favor of second chances.
Speaker 1: I'm in favor of forgiveness. And after all this time,
Speaker 1: don't these two legendary players belong in a place of
Speaker 1: honor for their exploits on the field.
Speaker 9: Yes, they do, and thanks for.
Speaker 12: Thanks for letting me chime in paint the town red, my.
Speaker 3: Friend, indeed, paint the town a red.
Speaker 1: Pete Rose is gone, and we will spend the next
Speaker 1: half hour or so remembering Pete Rose. The floor is
Speaker 1: open and you were more than welcome to continue and
Speaker 1: to hold and to contribute. Five one, three, big one
Speaker 1: remembering Pete Rose. On a special night cap on seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW.
Speaker 5: He was known as Charlie Hussel and newest member of
Speaker 5: the Reds Hall of Fame, Peter Edward.
Speaker 22: Don't wait, I don't wait, Do I die, no change
Speaker 22: of heart and put me on the list, and and
Speaker 22: I go from there.
Speaker 3: But that you know, I can't blame him.
Speaker 6: Brett, because I'm the one that screwed up.
Speaker 23: I'm not going to.
Speaker 22: Sit here on your show and blame baseball because I'm suspended.
Speaker 22: I think the suspension is too long. If you want
Speaker 22: to know the truth, you know I paid my time.
Speaker 22: I put the time in. But I still go around
Speaker 22: this country. I'm the hit king, as you know, and
Speaker 22: I do know that I do talk positive about the game.
Speaker 22: There's some great, great young players in the game of baseball,
Speaker 22: and I've brother concentrate on those guys as opposed to
Speaker 22: the guys that beat their wives, the guys that get
Speaker 22: drunk every night, the guys that do this or do
Speaker 22: the bad things. There's too many good guys playing the
Speaker 22: game of baseball, and there's too many good players for
Speaker 22: me to bad mouth the game of baseball.
Speaker 1: God bless him. Pete Rose has passed. Brandon Trotwood. You've
Speaker 1: been waiting quite a while, my friend. Finally a chance
Speaker 1: to share your Pete Rose memories.
Speaker 16: So well, you're a baseball bar I fucking grissy, eat
Speaker 16: and stuff and I'm done. I fell with a lot
Speaker 16: of Marty brought to me, and Marty was said, I
Speaker 16: have you look at Pete Rose?
Speaker 24: Is video that?
Speaker 10: I said, no?
Speaker 13: And I number A stucke I have?
Speaker 6: Is a statue.
Speaker 25: A lift that's that one play he got safe on base? Yeah,
Speaker 25: I look at that Vida like my number has to
Speaker 25: change to his number.
Speaker 16: So I fell in love with Pete Rose.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for sharing that story. Jerry
Speaker 1: and Wilder Kentucky. You're on the special Nightcap Remembering Pete
Speaker 1: Rose on seven hundred WLW. What is your Pete Rose story,
Speaker 1: if any?
Speaker 26: I have a couple of personal stories. First of all,
Speaker 26: you played with my band and a benefit strange brew
Speaker 26: years ago. Oh yeah, you sang a song with us,
Speaker 26: You sang Turned the Page. But anyway, I was in
Speaker 26: the army in four seventy eight engineers with Pete and
Speaker 26: one day he came in. We were working on a
Speaker 26: jeep and he came underneath of the jeep and he said, Gifford,
Speaker 26: you got to try this. It's my homemade dandelion wine. Well,
Speaker 26: I took a drink of it and I had to
Speaker 26: actually got a headache and had to play that night.
Speaker 26: So I condemned him for that part, but we laughed
Speaker 26: about it.
Speaker 3: What year? What year was this?
Speaker 26: Oh I got I got out in nineteen seventy two.
Speaker 3: Well, he wasn't on the he wasn't in the army
Speaker 3: in nineteen seventy two.
Speaker 26: He was in the reserves. He has gotten out about
Speaker 26: two years.
Speaker 6: Maybe I got out.
Speaker 3: In seventy two.
Speaker 26: It was probably sixty eight, sixty nine, but we were
Speaker 26: in for six years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but he went in after the sixty three season. Anyway,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Yeah.
Speaker 26: So what he did was we had a semi pro
Speaker 26: pitcher who threw ninety five miles an hour and I
Speaker 26: could not I tried to catch him and I couldn't
Speaker 26: do it, but he said Pete would keep going. He
Speaker 26: would go to Pete and go, you know what, you
Speaker 26: could never hit me. And now this pitcher, I won't
Speaker 26: give his name, but he pitched with Jimmy O'Toole and
Speaker 26: semi pro. So anyway, Pete gets mad. We go over
Speaker 26: to the ball field which is out there by Tower
Speaker 26: Park and Fort Thomas. And the very first pitch, right handed,
Speaker 26: Pete put over the trees. The second pitch he turned
Speaker 26: around left hand and put him over those trees. The
Speaker 26: third pitch he hit with one hand and it went
Speaker 26: over the infield would have went off the wall. And
Speaker 26: the fourth pitch he went with the other hand and
Speaker 26: hit it and it would have went.
Speaker 6: Off the wall. Four straight pitches.
Speaker 26: So we named this pitcher rag Arm after that.
Speaker 1: But well, you know, I really can't blame rag Arm
Speaker 1: for not being able to mess to Pete Rose.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 26: Pete was a great He was a great man. He
Speaker 26: did kp served food, he did everything he was supposed
Speaker 26: to do. And I don't care about what he did.
Speaker 26: He was a great baseball player. Should be in there.
Speaker 26: But anyway, thanks for your help, thanks for letting me on.
Speaker 3: Oh thank you for calling in.
Speaker 1: Jerry chet in Northwest Indiana who was a Cubs fan,
Speaker 1: And what could a Cubs fan say about Pete Rose?
Speaker 8: Well, the same thing you guys auld say. You know,
Speaker 8: when I was growing up, and I'm an old guy,
Speaker 8: so I remember Pete Rose playing.
Speaker 4: You know, we'd be in the bleachers and he was
Speaker 4: a character.
Speaker 8: He was a good guy, even though we were a
Speaker 8: Cub fan, and he talked to us and like, we
Speaker 8: were talking about hitting one time before a game and
Speaker 8: he told me how to get a better look at
Speaker 8: the pitch with both eyes and that's why he swung
Speaker 8: from the left side, the way his stance was. But anyway,
Speaker 8: he was just a good guy and he was one
Speaker 8: of the best players ever.
Speaker 6: To play the game.
Speaker 8: And I don't care what kind of fan you are.
Speaker 8: You see that. And you know, we always even as
Speaker 8: a young kid, seeing him, Charlie hustle. That's the way
Speaker 8: you play the game, and you play to win. And
Speaker 8: the thing is that he was a big part of
Speaker 8: baseball and he should have been in the Hall of
Speaker 8: Fame long time ago, and they but man, there's no doubt.
Speaker 8: But of course they wait till after he died. The
Speaker 8: same thing, and Cargo. They did the same down thing
Speaker 8: with Ron Sano for what reason? Who knows there, I
Speaker 8: mean a lot of theories, but who knows. YEA a
Speaker 8: year after he dies they put him in the Hall
Speaker 8: of Fame.
Speaker 3: By chet Chet. Maybe this is.
Speaker 8: Pete was one of the best to play the game
Speaker 8: well chess.
Speaker 1: Ever, I'm glad that you, as a Cubs fan from
Speaker 1: northwest Indiana, recognize what should be obvious to anybody who
Speaker 1: has ever watched a baseball game. Pete rose one of
Speaker 1: I mean, how many how many hands do you need
Speaker 1: the counter fingers to where Pete is placed on the
Speaker 1: all time list?
Speaker 3: Top ten?
Speaker 1: Easy, It's just a matter of you know, and how
Speaker 1: do you choose who's won and who's ten? Greg and Milford, Greg.
Speaker 27: Nice share guys. Nobody else would do this besides the
Speaker 27: WI and U. Nineteen sixty six, we won the d
Speaker 27: League championship here in Ohio for our league, and we
Speaker 27: got to go down to Crossley for a game and
Speaker 27: we had seats that were like two rows behind Red
Speaker 27: stug out. It was unbelievable. Right, he came out and
Speaker 27: actually give us a little chat, you know, signed some
Speaker 27: stuff for us, right years after that, working in the
Speaker 27: electronics business, I got to go to Pete's house to
Speaker 27: do some work for him, and nicer people you could
Speaker 27: not find for real. I mean, they took us in
Speaker 27: very gracious. It was excellent. Man, What can you say.
Speaker 27: I was a photographer at River Downs for a couple
Speaker 27: of years and one of my treasured pictures it's not Pete,
Speaker 27: but it's.
Speaker 3: Some semi an Rose jersey standing in.
Speaker 27: Front of the race horses right with a with a
Speaker 27: a program in his hands. I said those to Pete
Speaker 27: and he just laughed like crazy.
Speaker 3: That's great.
Speaker 4: Well, it's a personal taking of a personal campaign to
Speaker 4: put him in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 10: Folks, watch YouTube.
Speaker 1: It's coming all right, Greg, Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: sharing with us tonight on this special night, a somber
Speaker 1: night and a celebratory night at the same time, because
Speaker 1: we are celebrating the great work that was compiled by
Speaker 1: Pete Rose when he was here on this earth as
Speaker 1: a Major League Baseball All Pro, all time Chris and Cincinnati, Hello,
Speaker 1: you're on the air.
Speaker 12: He was the greatest player I ever watched.
Speaker 19: I remember watching him as sitting down in front of.
Speaker 6: The TV as a kid. It was unbelievable. I actually
Speaker 6: met him with my first wife.
Speaker 9: She has actually passed on.
Speaker 6: But he was very genuine and a great person.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for conveying that, and it's been the
Speaker 1: conveyance of many who have called in tonight. The stuff
Speaker 1: that happened off the field, that did not involve gambling
Speaker 1: on baseball or anything nefarious, are the things that people
Speaker 1: are remembering most about Pete Rose, that had encounters with him,
Speaker 1: that knew him, And I think that's an important thing
Speaker 1: to do right now. We can talk about the hits
Speaker 1: and the games and the advance and the statistics and
Speaker 1: all of the victories that Charlie Hussell helped engineer for
Speaker 1: the Big Red Machine over the years, but at the
Speaker 1: end of a person's life, it's how they affected others'
Speaker 1: lives that they came into contact with. William in Kentucky,
Speaker 1: Pete Rose thought or a story for us.
Speaker 12: Hey, Hey, Gary, I enjoy your show. I just want
Speaker 12: to say I grew up watching Pee Rose on TV
Speaker 12: and I went to a few games.
Speaker 28: I just want to say I am one of a
Speaker 28: million kids out there that emulated him when it came
Speaker 28: to playing baseball. When you learned you learned to be
Speaker 28: a switch hitter, and when you was betting left handed,
Speaker 28: you were crafts down just like.
Speaker 12: Him, Bett just like him. And I loved the way
Speaker 12: he runs the bases.
Speaker 6: He when he's.
Speaker 12: Running the bases, after he runs first pass, first base,
Speaker 12: he would have his hand on his betting helmet to
Speaker 12: try to keep it on when he's done the second base.
Speaker 12: I just want to say, I enjoy that man playing baseball.
Speaker 3: Reckless.
Speaker 1: I wanted to say thank you, William, and that you
Speaker 1: said it very well. Reckless abandon. That's how Pete played
Speaker 1: the game. David, Hello, Yes, I men.
Speaker 23: Pete graduated in nineteen fifty eight and we played with
Speaker 23: this amateur team here in Lebanon, Ohio. Of course, it's
Speaker 23: a time no one knew Pete Rose. The coach of
Speaker 23: the team was a scout for the Reds named Tommy Thompson,
Speaker 23: and he tried to get him signed, but a couple
Speaker 23: of weeks later, after he played two or three with us,
Speaker 23: that's when a Pete uncle got him signed and then
Speaker 23: leaves later later on my name, my wife owned some
Speaker 23: horses here in leven and the harness horses, and I
Speaker 23: got to know him a little bit from them too.
Speaker 23: I had won me June Love's June Bugs Dusty. My
Speaker 23: wife's name was June. Pete got a kick out of
Speaker 23: that one.
Speaker 1: Well, David, great memories for you as you remember your friend,
Speaker 1: and we remember the great Pete Rose. Tonight from my
Speaker 1: friend Squiggy Wiggins in Land in Ohio. Pete gave me
Speaker 1: enough chips that I really never have to work again.
Speaker 1: Pete made me hustle cute Nelson, Hello you are on
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW on a special nightcap remembering Pete Rose.
Speaker 3: Hello.
Speaker 6: Hello.
Speaker 7: I went to Western Ells High School with Pete Rose.
Speaker 7: I got on the school bus coming up from Lower
Speaker 7: Dell High and they were warning me about those riverside
Speaker 7: kids and on the way to Western Hills and I
Speaker 7: got on the bus fresh from Saskatchewan, dressed like Jerry
Speaker 7: D Lewis, and I got on the bus and a
Speaker 7: wall of fist came from the back of the bus understandably,
Speaker 7: and the one that connected somebody said, Oh, don't mind him,
Speaker 7: that's Pete Rose.
Speaker 1: So your story is you got randomly sucker punched by
Speaker 1: Pete Rose.
Speaker 7: On all went on, he became I was the weirdest
Speaker 7: guy anybody ever saw at Western Hills and the only
Speaker 7: guy that stood up for me was Pete. And they
Speaker 7: all wanted I mean, there was gangs. I'm waiting for
Speaker 7: me every day, but Pete was right there with me.
Speaker 7: Later on, Let's see what happened to Pete and why
Speaker 7: he's not in is because of the photography session that
Speaker 7: we had on his big hit, and we wound up
Speaker 7: going to New York. If you remember, I happened to
Speaker 7: be one of the photographers that were officially took the
Speaker 7: picture of Pete, and while we were taking the picture,
Speaker 7: they handed him a bunch of phones for this big
Speaker 7: interview and was broadcast everywhere, and one of them said, Pete,
Speaker 7: it's the president. Well he grabbed the phone in confusion
Speaker 7: and he yelled how you're doing into the phone and
Speaker 7: it got grabbed the and loll Wagan on live. You
Speaker 7: know what, Nelson was left sputtering at what was less sputtering,
Speaker 7: And he always wanted to get a long hair, and
Speaker 7: by that time, Pete had long hair, the longest care
Speaker 7: in baseball.
Speaker 16: And you know, I know the.
Speaker 7: Reason you never hear about it is because nobody wants
Speaker 7: to hear the truth.
Speaker 1: Pete, Hey Nelson, I got to tell you this is
Speaker 1: perfect because this will end our remembrance of Pete Rose
Speaker 1: tonight with a piece of that Ronald Reagan interview that
Speaker 1: you just referenced. And to everyone who has chimed in
Speaker 1: tonight and shared their memories and their thoughts about the
Speaker 1: passing of Pete Rose, thank you very much. The show
Speaker 1: couldn't have happened without you. And there's more Nightcap ahead
Speaker 1: Gianna Masselli and also doctor John Huber makes a return
Speaker 1: as The Nightcap starts its eighth season.
Speaker 3: We leave you with.
Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan and Pete Rose on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 24: Hello, Hello Date Rose, Yes, sir, here he is Charlie Hustle.
Speaker 29: Yes, sir, this is Ronald Reagan. Thank you nice talking
Speaker 29: to you.
Speaker 24: Well, listen, I just wanted to say congratulations for breaking
Speaker 24: one of the most enduring records in sports history ty
Speaker 24: cops career hit record of four thousand and ninety one.
Speaker 24: And now, unless you've done something since I've heard the latest,
Speaker 24: you've made it four thousand and ninety three. So I've
Speaker 24: been rooting for you, and come to think of it,
Speaker 24: I used to also root for the fellow who wants
Speaker 24: hell that record.
Speaker 22: Well, thank you very much for taking time out of
Speaker 22: your business schedule to call us, and we really appreciate it.
Speaker 29: And you missed a good ball game tonight.
Speaker 24: Well see you're ritt and the hustle of estab at
Speaker 24: you is one of the all time greats of the game.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Keen batting.
Speaker 24: I also had something to do with it. Well, today,
Speaker 24: your new record may be broken, but believe me, your
Speaker 24: reputation and legacy is secure, and I think it'll be
Speaker 24: a long time before someone is standing in the spot
Speaker 24: that you're standing in.
Speaker 29: The Thank you very much. I could say that.
Speaker 24: With you, the Reds and the people of Cincinnati says
Speaker 24: all the best. It's been a pleasure talking with you. Indeed,
Speaker 24: we ought to do this more often. You know, those
Speaker 24: of us who are in the middle of our careers
Speaker 24: can share tips on how to stay ahead of those
Speaker 24: younger folks who keep coming up on us from behind.
Speaker 22: Well, if you're been here at night, you know why
Speaker 22: we think this is a baseball capital of the world
Speaker 22: right here in Cincinnatiohi.
Speaker 24: I like and here that you've got a few friends
Speaker 24: there around you, and I won't keep you from them
Speaker 24: any longer. But again, and you've really given a lift
Speaker 24: to the whole country.
Speaker 29: Thank you very much, thank you. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 24: All right, good night, gun right, thank you.
Speaker 1: For thirtieth the night before the big vice presidential debate
Speaker 1: whatever uh. Talking to us for a few moments is
Speaker 1: cultural expert and lawful rights commentator, the author of the
Speaker 1: book Freedumb, That's Dumb, The Patriots Playbook to Restoring Your
Speaker 1: Rights and Freedom, which is, according to this only available
Speaker 1: on her website, which is Gianamusselli dot com. That's g
Speaker 1: I A N N A M I C E l
Speaker 1: I dot com. Gianamusselli joins us for a few minutes.
Speaker 1: How you doing, Gianna, Hello, thank.
Speaker 10: You for having me. I am fabulous.
Speaker 4: Yea.
Speaker 1: In this book, you detail and you and I have
Speaker 1: talked about this and a couple of the conversation that
Speaker 1: we've had in the past about people who do not
Speaker 1: understand what rights they actually have according to the Constitution.
Speaker 1: And it goes far beyond the right to speak your
Speaker 1: mind and worship freely and own a gun and all
Speaker 1: of the rest of that. But it's it's more complex
Speaker 1: than a lot of people know who don't know the Constitution.
Speaker 3: Like someone like you does.
Speaker 10: I'm put to it, you know, well, I.
Speaker 1: Mean and as this always been kind of like a
Speaker 1: quest for you to understand as much as you can
Speaker 1: about the laws that are supposed to govern us or
Speaker 1: give us our you know, guarantee, our God given rights.
Speaker 3: When did you start chasing after that?
Speaker 10: Well, I come from an era where we did have
Speaker 10: a semester in eighth grade on Civics and the Constitution
Speaker 10: at our rights. I was very excited to learn that
Speaker 10: I had rights. I'm the daughter of a Chicago police
Speaker 10: officer and a legal secretary. And then all our lives
Speaker 10: we've been sailing through thinking that we had these, that
Speaker 10: it was a given and an assumption, and until you
Speaker 10: actually get into some trouble, they're not really tested. And
Speaker 10: so it was really the COVID that I like to say,
Speaker 10: the COVID people mock me when I was like, why
Speaker 10: does the government think they have the authority to tell
Speaker 10: businesses to close and decide what was essential and non essential?
Speaker 10: And I lived in Las Vegas for some time in
Speaker 10: the later end of the pandemic, and the governor was
Speaker 10: telling oh, the Strimp Club could be opened, the dispensary
Speaker 10: could be open, but Walmart could be open, but these
Speaker 10: other small businesses could not. So I began to research
Speaker 10: from where did they think they're getting that authority? And
Speaker 10: I discovered it.
Speaker 3: You know, doesn't and I haven't without doing a whole
Speaker 3: lot of work.
Speaker 1: No, And God bless you for that, because I was
Speaker 1: of the same mind, because I was deemed an essential
Speaker 1: employee because I got to come in and do my
Speaker 1: radio shows. In fact, I got I received special government papers.
Speaker 1: Listen to this, two weeks to two weeks after they
Speaker 1: said we're gonna we're gonna kind of shut things down
Speaker 1: two weeks to slow the spread. And they're telling us that,
Speaker 1: and then I get these papers from corporate that are
Speaker 1: basically something for me to keep in my wallet, and
Speaker 1: they were good through May thirty first. Now this was
Speaker 1: in March. When I got these papers, I said, two
Speaker 1: weeks to slow the spread. My ass Now, this is
Speaker 1: not this is not exactly what they're telling you. And
Speaker 1: I got into it in about two weeks into that,
Speaker 1: I went off on this program against the shutdowns about
Speaker 1: the business closings. It is not the government's place, nor
Speaker 1: do they have the authority to shut down businesses that
Speaker 1: they deem as non essential for whatever purpose. There's nowhere
Speaker 1: in the Constitution that says that. And when they started
Speaker 1: with the mask mandates, and then they tried to do
Speaker 1: the jab mandates, and they succeeded in many different places,
Speaker 1: like our military getting away with mandating that someone puts
Speaker 1: something into their body that they didn't believe they needed
Speaker 1: or wanted.
Speaker 3: You know, it was clear to me early.
Speaker 1: On before a lot of other people got hep to it.
Speaker 1: But you and I were, I think we're pretty much
Speaker 1: on the same page there, and I started researching and
Speaker 1: not doing the research that all of the research I
Speaker 1: should have probably, but you did the research for us.
Speaker 1: And you're still preaching the gospel of you know what,
Speaker 1: the government can't do that.
Speaker 12: Oh whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 10: Well let's slow down. Yes they can. You consented to it.
Speaker 10: And here's how, because that's what I discovered. When you
Speaker 10: or your you know, I don't know where you work
Speaker 10: out of, or you're self employed, or you work for
Speaker 10: a radio station or whatever it is, when you ask
Speaker 10: the state for a license to do business for an
Speaker 10: LLC and s coorb any sort of permission, you become
Speaker 10: under their rules. So they did have that jurisdiction over you.
Speaker 10: But when you got that LLC, and I'm saying you personally,
Speaker 10: but anybody who got an LLC, anybody who opened a business,
Speaker 10: they did not disclose to you that you were waiving
Speaker 10: your rights to private economic activity, which is covered under
Speaker 10: the First Amendment under liberty, and so you unknowingly consented
Speaker 10: to be governed. And the same with the churches. When
Speaker 10: the churches open up and asked for a five oh
Speaker 10: one C three to be tax exempt, you're still waiving
Speaker 10: your rights when all businesses and churches have to do.
Speaker 10: It's simply rent or purchase and open a business. You
Speaker 10: do not have to get special permission for private economic activity.
Speaker 10: We've just been conditioned to believe that we need to
Speaker 10: do this, and the government believes and perceives that you
Speaker 10: waved your rights. Now you can't wave your rights without
Speaker 10: knowingly waving your rights, which you did not. And so
Speaker 10: when I found this out, it was absolutely mind blowing
Speaker 10: to me. And there's so many people that think a
Speaker 10: mandate is a law, and that never ever researched the word,
Speaker 10: that never ever thought of their rights, that have no
Speaker 10: idea about the Nuremberg Codes and the Geneva Convention, and
Speaker 10: that has just become so mind blowing to me. And
Speaker 10: ever since the first day I started to research this,
Speaker 10: I have not stopped. And now I have this book,
Speaker 10: I have the Inealenable University, which is an online university
Speaker 10: that teaches you how to stand for your rights and
Speaker 10: exercise your rights. It is mind blowing. I get so
Speaker 10: many compliments on how organized it is because we take
Speaker 10: you on a path to exercise the common law, which
Speaker 10: is the only place you have your rights. You're not
Speaker 10: having your right it's in traffic court, state court. So
Speaker 10: many people have been screaming all summer about the Trump case.
Speaker 10: Alex Jones, Steve ben and Peter Navarro, James O'Keefe, they
Speaker 10: had accepted a contract to be governed because they never
Speaker 10: challenged jurisdiction. And when you don't challenge jurisdiction, you're not
Speaker 10: going to you're not going to win. There are no rights.
Speaker 10: You can only get your rights under the common law,
Speaker 10: and only when you defend yourself, not when you hire
Speaker 10: an attorney, because they represent you and they represent your
Speaker 10: legal entity, not your living man. There are no rights,
Speaker 10: and so it's a lot for people to take. But
Speaker 10: it's four years later now I'm still here and we
Speaker 10: are kicking ass and I now live in the private
Speaker 10: So that's what happens when you remove yourself from these
Speaker 10: government agencies. Well, I had to steal intacts. What they
Speaker 10: can't see?
Speaker 1: Why didn't Why didn't Trump and his attorneys because there
Speaker 1: were all kinds of jurisdictional problems with what went on
Speaker 1: on that trial and that sham trial.
Speaker 3: In Manhattan Wor.
Speaker 10: Absolutely as soon as he hired a bar card, he
Speaker 10: told the courts that he was incompetence. That's what the
Speaker 10: terminology means, that you're a minor incompetent and you need
Speaker 10: to be represented. Now, I have Trump on the cover
Speaker 10: of my book at the moment that supposedly when he
Speaker 10: was at the first inaugula, the only inauguration in twenty seventeen,
Speaker 10: when he was transferring power from the corporation back to
Speaker 10: the people. At the moment in time, there were I
Speaker 10: think there were generals, but I'm not sure, or Joint
Speaker 10: chief of Staff or somebody from the military was behind him.
Speaker 10: And that's supposedly when the power was transferred. But it's
Speaker 10: certainly not something that's going to happen overnight. So I
Speaker 10: have to ask myself, does Trump know what we know
Speaker 10: because he did appoint these amazing justices who this summer
Speaker 10: has proven that they are rolling back the statutory Roman
Speaker 10: civil based system that we have, which is entirely repugnant
Speaker 10: to the Constitution, back to the common law in the
Speaker 10: Chevron and the Jarkassier. It's amazing for what I teach
Speaker 10: and what we preach.
Speaker 1: Gianna Misseli, I'll tell you what. Let's take a quick
Speaker 1: break and come back, and we're going to talk about
Speaker 1: the deep state and the Supreme Court and what it
Speaker 1: means if Donald Trump is re elected and what it
Speaker 1: means if he is not. In just a moment on
Speaker 1: the nightcap on seven hundred WLW, once again we are
Speaker 1: talking about Gianna Miscelli on this Monday night. You know
Speaker 1: Sandy who helps book your appearances on this show and others.
Speaker 1: Gianna always make sure that I know how to pronounce
Speaker 1: your name, which I pronounced flawlessly the first time I
Speaker 1: had you on, which I think is just again a
Speaker 1: great tribute to me. Let's get onto these You release
Speaker 1: commentaries on a regular basis, and last Tuesday out at
Speaker 1: Giannamasselli dot com and by the way, that's where you
Speaker 1: can find her book.
Speaker 3: If you're looking.
Speaker 1: And his title is why the deep State can't afford
Speaker 1: more Trump Supreme Court appointments. And there are plenty of
Speaker 1: unseen forces, as you mentioned at the top of this commentary, Gianna,
Speaker 1: that are doing everything they can, literally everything they can,
Speaker 1: including trying to assassinate this man before he could ever
Speaker 1: take office or win an election. They do not want,
Speaker 1: they didn't want Donald Trump the first time, and that's
Speaker 1: why there was such a just an unbelievable hell hole
Speaker 1: of stuff thrown at President Trump throughout his entire first
Speaker 1: term and then the prosecutions and persecutions as he announced
Speaker 1: he was running again for president because America and American
Speaker 1: justice really need another dose of Donald Trump to root
Speaker 1: out and as he said, drain the swamp. But the
Speaker 1: swamp is a lot deeper than anybody thinks, isn't it.
Speaker 10: Yes, he has stated. I read Corey Lewandowski's book, Let
Speaker 10: Trump Be Trump, and it is a fantastic, riveting book.
Speaker 10: He takes you on the campaign trail, and you remember
Speaker 10: the polls were always like it was ninety percent going
Speaker 10: to be Hillary Clinton. They were not ready and they
Speaker 10: did not have a transition team. And Corey sassis in
Speaker 10: that book, they had no expectation to win.
Speaker 4: He was just trying.
Speaker 10: Of course, he's not going to quit. And so this time,
Speaker 10: with this RFK allegiance, they have people ready, you know.
Speaker 10: And I believe the man did the best job he
Speaker 10: could with what he had. We know that now, Burke flies.
Speaker 10: In her book, she admits that she lied about those
Speaker 10: fifteen days. And I knew it too, just like you said,
Speaker 10: yeah right, I was in New York when it happened.
Speaker 10: Yeah right, it's going to be fifteen days. The very
Speaker 10: next day, I ordered a pod and moved down to Florida.
Speaker 10: I was in Florida within a month, right, how long?
Speaker 3: Florida never really locked down, did they?
Speaker 10: They did? They were not as free as people claim.
Speaker 10: I mean, I can only speak for living in Palm
Speaker 10: Beach County. I'm in Broward now, but at the time
Speaker 10: I was in Palm Beach County and they had the
Speaker 10: orange mesh fence around park where kids would play, and
Speaker 10: you couldn't go on the beach. I mean, they had
Speaker 10: the insanity. Kids were still massed, servers were still mass
Speaker 10: The whole thing was not as bad as other places,
Speaker 10: but I knew there was no way I could stay
Speaker 10: in New York and survive.
Speaker 1: It was just not as totalitarian as what you left
Speaker 1: in New York. So what does it mean if President
Speaker 1: Trump is once again recognized as President Trump with a
Speaker 1: second term in November for the Supreme Court? And the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court has been the only stop gap from total
Speaker 1: tyranny with Joe Bidenen in Kamala Harrison office. But what
Speaker 1: does it mean for the country if Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: re elected and can appoint more members to the highest
Speaker 1: court in the land.
Speaker 10: Well, there's two more that are in the possible retirement
Speaker 10: age in the next four or five years, so that
Speaker 10: is very exciting. The Chevron Deference removed regulatory ambiguity that
Speaker 10: gives the administrative agencies unconstitutional power. And it was a
Speaker 10: shot heard around the world, and someone made a fantastic
Speaker 10: video on next I wish I had saved it. Maybe
Speaker 10: I did, and I haven't looked, but it ran an
Speaker 10: alphabetical list of all the agencies that have been affected.
Speaker 10: So we feel in my common law world, in my
Speaker 10: ineleitable university, that these agencies are going to start rolling back.
Speaker 10: And we've got about two hundred cases in the common
Speaker 10: law against bank fraud presently happening, and they've come to
Speaker 10: a standstill, and we believe that they're waiting to see
Speaker 10: if Kamala is elected or if this rule back to
Speaker 10: the common law is actually going to happen. We're just speculating.
Speaker 10: We can't know that. But if Trump gets two more picks,
Speaker 10: he's forever changed the landscape of a conservative Supreme Court,
Speaker 10: which we need, so we have.
Speaker 1: If something lest if Kamala Harris wins, how much of
Speaker 1: a danger is to a free speech in America?
Speaker 10: Well, it's not really about her. She's no the puppet
Speaker 10: of the muppet, you know, the puppet of the.
Speaker 3: Of the deep state. Yeah, I understand that.
Speaker 1: But if someone like that were to win the White
Speaker 1: House and have that executive power, what kind of challenges
Speaker 1: do we face as Americans?
Speaker 3: Can survive?
Speaker 10: The executive orders only affect the federal government, the administrative agencies,
Speaker 10: But so many people like people are speculating this tax
Speaker 10: she's proposing on unrealized gains, And I'll say to people
Speaker 10: on social on what planet do you think she can
Speaker 10: execute that? She cannot rule by executive order? No one
Speaker 10: even reads these executive orders have really really smart people.
Speaker 10: Just because she said something doesn't mean she can do it.
Speaker 10: It's not going to matter. So we want to teach
Speaker 10: people is the more people that do what I'm doing,
Speaker 10: get yourself from the public to the private, get out
Speaker 10: of from under their regulations, you will walk the world
Speaker 10: differently and they will have no effect on you. And
Speaker 10: then we can start locally. You hopefully people will rise
Speaker 10: as leaders to join the city commissions and remove them
Speaker 10: from being private por profit corporations and restoring the republic
Speaker 10: as they should be. It's the only way it's going
Speaker 10: to work. We can't just hit it from the federal
Speaker 10: government up well.
Speaker 1: I mean, there were a lot of executive orders that
Speaker 1: Joe Biden signed as soon as he got into office
Speaker 1: that reversed all of Donald Trump's executive orders that had
Speaker 1: actually curbed the invasion at our southern border.
Speaker 3: And with immigration yes.
Speaker 10: Or no, right, Yes, there's speculation that the un owns
Speaker 10: ten miles on each side, so I have not been
Speaker 10: able to find anything that confirms that. But that's the
Speaker 10: Department of Homeland Security. Yeah, that's a federal agency.
Speaker 3: And may Orcus has done a wonderful job.
Speaker 30: I mean, if you're of the position that they're doing
Speaker 30: what they're supposed to be doing, yes, but they're definitely
Speaker 30: not doing what they would any normal person would believe
Speaker 30: if you wanted to destroy the country, you do everything
Speaker 30: that they're doing.
Speaker 10: And they're doing great at that. Yeah, we're in scary times.
Speaker 10: I mean, look at these people, Look at all the
Speaker 10: the I haven't seen what the federal government is doing
Speaker 10: about all the wake of the hurricane. I haven't seen anything.
Speaker 10: And I was on Twitter all morning. I mean, I
Speaker 10: don't know if it exist, but I haven't seen it. Well,
Speaker 10: I mean, with another Katrina on our hands, the.
Speaker 3: State governments have mobilized and.
Speaker 1: Joe Biden, Kamala Harris really other than being briefed on
Speaker 1: the situation, I saw something with Harris this morning. Well,
Speaker 1: jee ye, I'm going back to Washington to be briefed
Speaker 1: and to you know, offer any kind of help, must
Speaker 1: for any kind of help that they need, and blah blah.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah uh and it's all it's all just fluff.
Speaker 3: There's no substance there whatsoever.
Speaker 11: We're on our own.
Speaker 10: We're really on our own. I mean, I'm lucky that
Speaker 10: I'm here where DeSantis is and he says he's handled
Speaker 10: Florida so okay, I was supposed to live where like
Speaker 10: by in Sarasota. I ended up in Fort Ladderdown on accident.
Speaker 10: And I'm just like, look at this I was I
Speaker 10: just moved here in June. Look at what would have
Speaker 10: happened to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't want to be You didn't want to
Speaker 1: be in that elbow, and you certainly didn't want to
Speaker 1: be in Georgia, South Carolina, or in Ashville, North Carolina,
Speaker 1: with that incredible storm that just blew through. Gianna Misceli,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. It's Giannamoscelli dot com. If you
Speaker 1: want to find out more or get her book or
Speaker 1: find out about in Leanable University. All the information's there, Gianna,
Speaker 1: thank you so much.
Speaker 10: Came there you next time?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: You bet you the wild Man right around the corner
Speaker 1: afternows on seven hundred WLW. It is the nightcap into
Speaker 1: a brand new season on seven hundred WLW Welcoming some
Speaker 1: old friends as well. And this guy has been a
Speaker 1: part of these nighttime broadcasts of ours for God for
Speaker 1: as long as I've been doing it.
Speaker 3: So we're into eight years or so.
Speaker 1: Talking to the likes of doctor John Huber, forensic psychologist
Speaker 1: out of Austin, Texas.
Speaker 3: Many issues on the table. But first, doctor, how are you?
Speaker 6: I am amazing Gary Jeff just because I'm on the
Speaker 6: air with my good friend Gary Jeff Walker.
Speaker 1: Well, that's very very sweet. We'll see how you feel
Speaker 1: at the end of the interview. So, first and foremost,
Speaker 1: as a psychologist, and you testify in court as to
Speaker 1: the wherewithal sanity, the brainwear with all of people who
Speaker 1: are on truck, and that's one of the things that
Speaker 1: you do. So much attention has been focused on Sean
Speaker 1: Combs for the last we're really not just the last month,
Speaker 1: not since his arrest, but going back to the FBI raid,
Speaker 1: going back to all the other rumors about just very
Speaker 1: very unseemly stuff, sexual stuff and freak goll parties we've
Speaker 1: found out about after the FBI raid and the one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand bottles of baby oil, which by the way,
Speaker 1: I would not suggest that necessary as a lubricant because
Speaker 1: I would think not that I know that that could
Speaker 1: burn a little bit. But Doc, first and foremost, what
Speaker 1: causes someone, and we're of course it's all alleged.
Speaker 3: They've got hours of video of all these parties.
Speaker 1: They've got all kinds of forensic evidence they have turned
Speaker 1: up from Diddy's homes, and there have been plenty of
Speaker 1: people coming out one victim so far. But what's behind
Speaker 1: the psychology of someone who might go this far off
Speaker 1: the rails like P did?
Speaker 6: Well, what one of the things is you got this person,
Speaker 6: you know, when you become this entertainer and you get
Speaker 6: out and you're out in front of people, you know,
Speaker 6: you start to, you know, get this very narcissistic part
Speaker 6: of your life. And unless you can control that and
Speaker 6: cut that down and turn it off when you walk
Speaker 6: off stage, that kind of stuff. I mean, we see
Speaker 6: people do it all the time, you know. I mean,
Speaker 6: why do you think Madonna's done what she done? She
Speaker 6: is on stage, she is that narcissist. Off stage, She's
Speaker 6: a family mom. She takes care of business, you know,
Speaker 6: she she gives her kids, consequentquences, all that type of stuff,
Speaker 6: just like you're supposed to. Then you turn around and
Speaker 6: you look at P Diddy as far back. I was
Speaker 6: actually able to watch a video of P Diddy in
Speaker 6: nineteen ninety nine talking to an entertainment news show thinking
Speaker 6: about how crazy his parties are that one day he's
Speaker 6: going to get arrested for them. And he said that
Speaker 6: nineteen ninety nine, so he knew what he was doing
Speaker 6: back then was with pushing limits. And you know, I remember,
Speaker 6: you know, googling and ooing and aweing at the fact
Speaker 6: that you know, the guy went out and rented a
Speaker 6: two hundred and something million dollar yacht to hold a
Speaker 6: birthday party and brought all his friends on that and
Speaker 6: took him through the Caribbean or to the Mediterranean whatever
Speaker 6: back in the day, back back long before nineteen ninety nine,
Speaker 6: and thinking, Wow, how extravagant, how how much he just
Speaker 6: throws into that. And then you turn around and today
Speaker 6: again you got that indictment. It's nineteen pages long as
Speaker 6: there's one victim, plethora of witnesses than the raids include
Speaker 6: all the digital video stuff and this guy, I mean,
Speaker 6: who copies. And you know, I've had smaller cases where
Speaker 6: where people had had like websites or podcasts and things
Speaker 6: like that with two three hundred thousand followers, and then
Speaker 6: they go out and start videotaping themselves committing crimes. And
Speaker 6: you know, whether it's it's you know, graffiti, that kind
Speaker 6: of stuff, defacing property and putting it on their YouTube
Speaker 6: and their videos and then get arrested and then you know,
Speaker 6: I got brought into the case and they're like, hey,
Speaker 6: nobody's gonna give me any punishment because I'm famous. I'm like,
Speaker 6: I don't know who you are. You know you got
Speaker 6: quote unquote two hundred thousand. Well, it turns out several
Speaker 6: of those people following his face APPA to Bend police
Speaker 6: officers and they use that to invite him. So now
Speaker 6: you take that to the instagree where somebody who wherever
Speaker 6: he goes in the world, people know he did. He
Speaker 6: you know, Sean Puffy Combs, and you just look at that.
Speaker 6: This guy walks into any room and people basically cater
Speaker 6: to his whims. So he's got money to follow that up.
Speaker 6: Apparently these parties he hired sex workers male and female professionals,
Speaker 6: ex workers, so prostitutes, and they would go there and
Speaker 6: these parties would last days where they'd have you know,
Speaker 6: ivy rehydration centers where people could get rehydrated and jump
Speaker 6: back in. And then people after participating in this, some
Speaker 6: of them weren't able to go out publicly because they
Speaker 6: were so bruised, scratched up and you know, injured, that
Speaker 6: they couldn't be seen in public without people going, hey,
Speaker 6: what's wrong with you kind of thing? What happened? Will
Speaker 6: beat you up? And man, why do you do that?
Speaker 6: He's got he's got the world of his fingertips and
Speaker 6: it happened at a very young age. He had a
Speaker 6: bunch of yes people all around him, and now he's
Speaker 6: sitting there being told no, he put up. He offered
Speaker 6: fifty million dollars per bail and was at the bag bill.
Speaker 6: So he's sitting up there in the Bronklin Brooklyn, sorry
Speaker 6: not Bronklyn Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: Detention Center right in his book Made, his book Made
Speaker 1: is Sam Bankman freed the fraud strup So no, I'm serious?
Speaker 1: And Greg Greg Greg Greg Guttfeld on Fox on his
Speaker 1: show said we had a picture of Sam Bankman freed
Speaker 1: and in a T shirt.
Speaker 3: He said, well, at least Diddy has a bunk mate
Speaker 3: with a nice rack.
Speaker 20: That was.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, And then you know, and then Bieber released
Speaker 6: some song about Pitty about p Diddy that is not
Speaker 6: I mean, you listen to it, whether it's true or not.
Speaker 6: It's really uh slapping the face.
Speaker 1: But back to the psychology of this, and you touched
Speaker 1: on it very well and succinctly for me. But this overwhelming,
Speaker 1: unchecked narcissism which makes someone and it happens God, you
Speaker 1: see it in the political circles all the time. Uh,
Speaker 1: but you you see that, and it is an awareness
Speaker 1: by that person that they think they are God and
Speaker 1: whatever their whim is is okay because they wanted to
Speaker 1: do it. And that is just, I think the worst
Speaker 1: kind of narcissism. It's it's narcissism to the nth degree.
Speaker 3: And this is what p did. He probably is suffering from,
Speaker 3: although he oh absolutely.
Speaker 6: Yeah. And you see it, you see it to a
Speaker 6: lesser degree. Like just think to your local sports star,
Speaker 6: your your high school star quarterback who maybe is out
Speaker 6: running around and then maybe goes a little over the
Speaker 6: speed limit and you know, cop pulls them over and
Speaker 6: then oh, well you had a great game last night,
Speaker 6: you know, slow it down and go home. Where they
Speaker 6: get everybody else's tick it, you know, and it starts
Speaker 6: real subtly like that, and that's just you know, a
Speaker 6: police officer trying to be friendly in the community, trying
Speaker 6: to avoid issues. You know, hey, you're targeting our star player.
Speaker 6: You know, all that kind of stuff. But the players
Speaker 6: are too young, too niate to understand all that's involved
Speaker 6: in all the different nuances and how they can be
Speaker 6: pushed and pulled and uh, now you take it to
Speaker 6: the integrate with hundreds of millions of dollars at this
Speaker 6: person's back and call and can you write a check?
Speaker 6: And uh, and it cashes, it doesn't bounce. Man, It's
Speaker 6: it's pretty pretty hard to defeat that, you know. I
Speaker 6: work with some clients who have some wealth, and it's
Speaker 6: really interesting how things get crazy. They just hire people
Speaker 6: to take care of certain things for them, you know,
Speaker 6: whether it's, oh, I'm having a party for my daughter
Speaker 6: this weekend, the house of mess, so they hire two
Speaker 6: cleaning crews to come clean their house instead of panicking,
Speaker 6: and you know, stand up until midnight trying to clean
Speaker 6: their own exactly exactly. And you know, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't behooved these people. I mean, my clients are
Speaker 6: some amazing people who who've really, you know, worked hard
Speaker 6: in life, and most of them start out with nothing. However,
Speaker 6: you can say a lot of that about p Diddy.
Speaker 6: He started out in life with not very much, and
Speaker 6: he worked his way up, and you know, I think
Speaker 6: that there's that element of you know, we talked about
Speaker 6: the and the ego and the superrego. The superrego is
Speaker 6: the part that controls the negotiations between the in and
Speaker 6: the ego and vice versa. The ego and moderates between
Speaker 6: the super ego and the ID. But those rules that
Speaker 6: the superrego implied that you have to follow, that super
Speaker 6: ego is very weak. And people like p Diddy because
Speaker 6: oh the rules don't apply to me, everybody else needs
Speaker 6: to follow him because I'm not going to get in
Speaker 6: trouble for you get, you know, violating the rules. But hey,
Speaker 6: I can get away with it. That's also money. I
Speaker 6: can buy my way.
Speaker 1: Also, in the back of his mind, since you said
Speaker 1: in that interview you cited from nineteen ninety nine that
Speaker 1: his his parties might get him arrested one day, So
Speaker 1: in his mind, in the back of his mind anyway,
Speaker 1: he's been on the LAMB for twenty five years. And
Speaker 1: I say on the lamb, and I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: animals because there were no sh in the videos as
Speaker 1: far as I know, Doctor Huber, Let's take a quick break,
Speaker 1: we'll come back, we'll talk about I don't know, just
Speaker 1: a sense of a belonging to a certain place. You're
Speaker 1: deep in the heart of Texas, and you're a Texas
Speaker 1: boy through and through, you feel like you belong there.
Speaker 1: Some of the reasons why we have that kind of
Speaker 1: provincial sense of belonging to one geographical area where we've
Speaker 1: got all these kind of family ties and roots and such.
Speaker 1: As we continue on the nightcap on seven hundred WLW
Speaker 1: Forensic Psychologists, he's still waiting on his pay after eight years,
Speaker 1: but he's back anyway, like a glutton for punishment, Doctor
Speaker 1: John Huber in this little segment. In a few minutes
Speaker 1: we have left, Doctor Hubert, I wanted to ask you
Speaker 1: about something that's always kind of mystified me, probably because
Speaker 1: as a kid, we moved around all the time, different states,
Speaker 1: sometimes different time zones, and we weren't in any given
Speaker 1: place for a long long time. Although I was born
Speaker 1: in Iowa, and every time I go back to the
Speaker 1: small town where I was born in southeast Iowa, Mount Pleasant,
Speaker 1: I instantly, even though I didn't live there more than
Speaker 1: two months of my early infant life, I always feel
Speaker 1: at home there because there are relatives there, and there
Speaker 1: are places that just make you feel more at home
Speaker 1: than others. You are Texas born and bred, so Texas
Speaker 1: always feels like home for you. Describe that phenomena of
Speaker 1: people's ties to a particular place psychologically, well.
Speaker 6: Psychologically, you know, you have an awareness of things. You know,
Speaker 6: you have a general understanding of that the culture in
Speaker 6: that area. You get an awareness of the physical geography
Speaker 6: of the area, and there's something that's just kind of innate.
Speaker 6: You understand it. You feel like you can predict what's
Speaker 6: going to happen. You know when you walk around one
Speaker 6: corner what you're going to see on the next one.
Speaker 6: And we get that in different ways. Okay, you said
Speaker 6: you were only there for a few months, but now
Speaker 6: when you visit, you feel like you belong there. The
Speaker 6: thing is, you heard about that your whole life. Your
Speaker 6: parents talked about things that they did in that town.
Speaker 6: Now I sit back and I feel this way about Texas.
Speaker 6: But my parents, respectively, one was in Colorado and one
Speaker 6: We grew up in Iowa, not very far from where
Speaker 6: you were at Muscatine. So when I go to those states,
Speaker 6: I have all this history that I've been taught about
Speaker 6: that state from a child, and then a parent's perspective
Speaker 6: to another child. And there's something about feeling like you
Speaker 6: just belong because you kind of you know, you know something.
Speaker 6: You walk around the corner and there's this building that
Speaker 6: your parents told you about when they were little kid.
Speaker 6: And and it's funny because we briefly discussed several different
Speaker 6: topics last week when we were starting this up, and
Speaker 6: and I started thinking about things. You know, there's another
Speaker 6: place that I feel very like, like connected with, and
Speaker 6: that's that's Manhattan, New York City. And you know, I'm
Speaker 6: a Southern boy, and we talk about all the things
Speaker 6: we don't like about the North, and they talk about
Speaker 6: all the things they don't like about the South. But
Speaker 6: when I get there, the people that I'm introduced to,
Speaker 6: they have always treated me very respectfully, very very much,
Speaker 6: with care and compassion. And so when I go there,
Speaker 6: get ready to go there, I start having Hey, it's
Speaker 6: like I'm going back to see an old friend. So
Speaker 6: I get that feeling too, even though I didn't grow
Speaker 6: up in that area and I don't have a family
Speaker 6: history of people being in that area. So it's kind
Speaker 6: of I think there's a couple of ways we can
Speaker 6: get that. We get that through stories, you know, from
Speaker 6: our parents, but also then from just being around good people.
Speaker 6: You know, I know there's bad people in New York City,
Speaker 6: there's bad people here in Texas, there's bad people in Colorado.
Speaker 6: And but I've been I've been sheltered from that. I
Speaker 6: haven't exposed been exposed to that. You know, you go
Speaker 6: somewhere for a vacation and somebody robbed you, you know,
Speaker 6: at your hotel room. You're not going to ever feel
Speaker 6: comfortable in that place ever because you were exposed to
Speaker 6: that bad element. And I think as long as the
Speaker 6: people around us are genuine human beings caring about other
Speaker 6: people in general, you're going to get that. Even if
Speaker 6: you have an altercation. For example, maybe you drank too
Speaker 6: much in a bar and you bump into somebody.
Speaker 3: Happened.
Speaker 6: No, no, But I know you know, since since since
Speaker 6: you've had past lives where you worked in those places,
Speaker 6: you've seen that happen. Just just because it doesn't happen
Speaker 6: to you and me that that you know, that's we've
Speaker 6: been lucky.
Speaker 1: But doctor, I want to focus primarily on the state
Speaker 1: that you call home, and it's you, it's your life place,
Speaker 1: it's the place where you want to be Texas. I
Speaker 1: have known many people from Texas and they all have
Speaker 1: the one thing in common, and that is, don't mess
Speaker 1: with Texas, man. I mean, it's really strident and strong
Speaker 1: for some reason with Texas. Why do you think that
Speaker 1: is more so than other places.
Speaker 6: Well, I think there's a lot of things playing into that.
Speaker 6: You know, we're the you know, next to Alaska. We
Speaker 6: are the biggest state. We are the biggest of the
Speaker 6: lower forty eight, and you know, we we like to
Speaker 6: push that. And because we're taught that from day one.
Speaker 6: I mean when you're growing up, hey, look at this.
Speaker 6: You know, we're the biggest, were the best. And then
Speaker 6: you know something that world are wide. You talk about
Speaker 6: the Alamo and you know, my friends when I first
Speaker 6: met them from Amsterdam, you know, they were like, oh,
Speaker 6: you've been to the Alamo, and I'm like yeah. And
Speaker 6: then they wanted to ask if I knew where Ozzie
Speaker 6: Pete on the building. I'm like, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know where he did that question where did
Speaker 1: Osbourne urinate on a building?
Speaker 6: Yes? And he did get arrested for that, and you know,
Speaker 6: and and you know he's openly admitted I had too
Speaker 6: much to drink. I had to go pee. There was
Speaker 6: nothing around, and I walked up to a building, didn't
Speaker 6: know what it was.
Speaker 3: And once again, yeah, once again for me, it never happened.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you didn't get caught when you peede on the Alamo.
Speaker 6: So that's why you still like Texas.
Speaker 9: But that's.
Speaker 3: I could just see Asie standing there.
Speaker 1: Remember Alamo, Saren, I don't remember what is the Alamo.
Speaker 1: It's what you're peeing on. A mercy all right, doctor,
Speaker 1: Well listen. Thank you as always. It's a blast talking
Speaker 1: to you every single time, and I hope you will
Speaker 1: do a lot more of it now that we're back
Speaker 1: on the air on a more consistent basis here on
Speaker 1: Monday and Tuesday nights on the seven hundred WLW. Doctor
Speaker 1: John Huber, you are as always amazing, and thank you
Speaker 1: so much for granting me a little bit of your
Speaker 1: precious time this evening.
Speaker 6: Thank you so much, Gary, Jef Walker. It's my pleasure.
Speaker 3: Great stuff.
Speaker 1: And with that we in tonight's broadcast with the playing
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