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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's are and welcome to the show. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the Cult of Conspiracy, and my name is Jonathan, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob and today we are continuing on yesterday's episode because

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<v Speaker 1>this rabbit hole is so damn deep. Did Eisenhower have

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<v Speaker 1>communications with aliens, both of the good variety and of

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<v Speaker 1>the batty variety? And if there was offers on the table,

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<v Speaker 1>which one did he choose and why did he choose it?

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<v Speaker 1>And this is going to be kind of a continuation.

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<v Speaker 1>So last time we peeled back the curtain of the

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<v Speaker 1>Griata Treaty, the alleged deal Eisenhower struck with cold calculated grays,

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<v Speaker 1>a faustian bargain alien technology in exchange for human abductions.

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<v Speaker 1>But what if that wasn't the only offer on the table?

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<v Speaker 1>What if at the very same time, another emissary arrived,

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<v Speaker 1>not demanding abductions, not pushing weapons, but offering something else,

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<v Speaker 1>entirely healing peace, even the end of disease and death itself.

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<v Speaker 1>His name was Valiant Thor. He came not from a

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<v Speaker 1>distant gray star system, but from Venus, the planet of love, harmony,

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<v Speaker 1>and beauty. Tonight we're going to explore the story of

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<v Speaker 1>the Ali survivor who walked the halls of the Pentagon

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<v Speaker 1>and was ignored. But first before we even get into that,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to tie in yesterday's episode in case

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<v Speaker 1>you missed it. We're going to summarize it from our

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<v Speaker 1>boy AJ from the Wi Files. Jacob has a little

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<v Speaker 1>clip over there from him, and then we'll get into

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<v Speaker 1>Valiant Thor and how it possibly all connects. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>We did breeze over a couple of things yesterday, and

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<v Speaker 2>the reason why isn't because they are not important, but

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<v Speaker 2>because we only have so much time to make this content. Okay, there,

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<v Speaker 2>and like Jonathan said, there's so many other levels that

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<v Speaker 2>you can go down. There's rabbit holes within rabbit holes.

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<v Speaker 2>For this one one of them. We talked about your

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<v Speaker 2>boy Philip Cooper, right, and he was a top intel guy,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say, naval intelligence William Cooper, get it, William,

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me. And he was one of the people who

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<v Speaker 2>claimed that he had direct knowledge of these entities. And

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<v Speaker 2>there was another gentleman I spaced on his But we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk about it with AJ with the Wild

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<v Speaker 2>Files here in a moment, who claimed that he was

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<v Speaker 2>a contracted digger who was digging tunnels, these underground military

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<v Speaker 2>bases for these entities to perform experiments.

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<v Speaker 3>But when he got down there.

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<v Speaker 2>This is also around the time when they figured out

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<v Speaker 2>that the abductions and experiments were a millionfold what we

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<v Speaker 2>were originally told. He gets down there and sees eggs,

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<v Speaker 2>egg pods, millions of them underground, and not just these

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<v Speaker 2>egg pods, parts of human bodies.

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<v Speaker 3>Arms, legs, all these things.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently they weren't just returning all the people like they

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<v Speaker 2>said they were. They were doing gene splicing technology. There

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<v Speaker 2>was a gunfight that took place underground pistols versus laser

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<v Speaker 2>cannons from the aliens, and he actually had most of

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<v Speaker 2>his hand fried off and got hit in the chest.

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<v Speaker 2>Both him and Cooper claimed they were trying to go

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<v Speaker 2>loud about all of this, and they claimed, we are

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<v Speaker 2>probably going to be killed in the next few weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you don't hear from us anymore, understand we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't commit sue. Both of these gentlemen were found dead

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<v Speaker 2>ruled a suicide. So anyway, we breezed over some of

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<v Speaker 2>this because an underground gun fight sounds kind of incredulous, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not saying that I do or don't believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying to your average person who's never heard

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<v Speaker 2>of conspiracies that might just ring out a little too

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<v Speaker 2>star wars. He Okay, So we kind of went over

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<v Speaker 2>the more verifiable, the more documented things that we could yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>So as we're going into this, I just want everybody

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<v Speaker 2>to know we didn't. It's not that we don't know

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<v Speaker 2>about these kind of conversations or we don't know about

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<v Speaker 2>these events that took place. We're sticking onto the things

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<v Speaker 2>that we can in some way shape or form fact check.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we we did a three hour episode and

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<v Speaker 1>it was jam pack full of details. So and this

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<v Speaker 1>is something that has had decades, literally what seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>years or so, seventy years to be able to be

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fraught through and talked about and discovered and

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<v Speaker 1>poked at and prodded and everything. So there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of information regardless. But I did want to say, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>like that episode opened me up, and today's episode's going

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<v Speaker 1>to open everybody's third eye all the way open. It

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy. You might not believe it, but whenever it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to any alien, any alien story, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>there are those of us that, like, we want to believe,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're more inclined to believe, And then there are

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<v Speaker 1>those of us that don't believe in aliens. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>think they're demons, maybe you think they don't even exist.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, so I understand pretty much all sides. But

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is is that every single alien story has

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<v Speaker 1>some thing to it that makes it fantastical, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>we are less inclined to believe the fantastical because we

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<v Speaker 1>want to believe it so much. But there's that thing

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<v Speaker 1>inside of us that tells you, no, that's not real life. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that couldn't have really happened. I just want everybody to

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<v Speaker 1>remember here, the fact that you are alive and listening

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<v Speaker 1>to a podcast already doesn't make any fucking sense. Okay, Like, statistically, you, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the odds of you being born is like four billion

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<v Speaker 1>to one.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's the reality of it.

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<v Speaker 2>For an actual human sperm to meet the egg and

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<v Speaker 2>go through to fruition and be born, that is like

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<v Speaker 2>a four billion to one odds of happening. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>explain that to more realistic terms.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a gun. I have a forty five in

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<v Speaker 3>my hand right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Jonathan, just for you, if I handed you a

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<v Speaker 2>weapon and said, all right, bro, is the new, latest

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<v Speaker 2>and greatest. By the way, it's it's unloaded. Show clear

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<v Speaker 2>all the things. Don't get after me, all right, all

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<v Speaker 2>the things. So if I hand you this gun, I

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<v Speaker 2>hand it to you loaded, and I said, you, every

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<v Speaker 2>four billion times you pull the trigger, it might go

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<v Speaker 2>off one of those times. Would you say that that

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<v Speaker 2>is oh, that's a really good gun, or would you say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's like that's basically impossible, that's a non fire weapon.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's not working.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that's probably from China. China asshole. You're right,

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<v Speaker 1>matter of fact. You know what, there's never a bad

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<v Speaker 1>time to hear from our fucking Hong Kong correspondent, Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't trust China. China is ass ho.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I keep that bang on me.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, anyway, I love that you just don't close that, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no trus China China is ass ho.

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<v Speaker 2>There's never a bad time to hear from this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I love him so much. I hope he's doing well

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<v Speaker 2>and he wasn't killed. But anyway, so my point is, though,

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<v Speaker 2>if you had anything a car that every four billion

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<v Speaker 2>times you turn the key, maybe it'll turn over one time.

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<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't say you have a functioning car. You would

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<v Speaker 2>say it's a hunk of junk. Yet somehow human life

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<v Speaker 2>has gone this far to where it's a guarantee. It's

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<v Speaker 2>mind blowing a miracle.

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<v Speaker 1>Not even just that, but even the fact that that

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<v Speaker 1>process is even a thing is crazy in an itself.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that we exist, like I'm not even talking

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<v Speaker 1>about as humans. I'm talking about the fact that you

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<v Speaker 1>have awareness of your surroundings. Yeah, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>the odds of that are, but even I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>we can go real crazy, we can get real weird.

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<v Speaker 1>We live in a fucking matrix. We live in a simulation.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything is fake and gay, and here we are to try,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, maybe be like Neo in the

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<v Speaker 1>matrix and try and prove that we're all the one.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just get real weird.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's the thing, right, This would lead me, in

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<v Speaker 2>most logical people to at least agree with intelligent design. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to go into a religious soapbox here, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because everybody knows where I stand on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Although I will say, the guy that we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be talking about today does get religious in this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, take with it what you will.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's fair, But my point is right, the earth

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<v Speaker 2>itself existing, you want to talk about the ratios of

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<v Speaker 2>statistics of that being a thing able to sustain life.

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<v Speaker 2>If we are any closer to the some we burn up,

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<v Speaker 2>we're any further away, we would freeze. And then let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the type of floor and fauna we have

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<v Speaker 2>on this entire earth. Then let's talk about the sentient

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<v Speaker 2>beings aka humans that are inhabiting it. When you compile

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<v Speaker 2>all of these things together, it is not so.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, you know, evolution and things just happen over

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<v Speaker 1>billions a year. Bro.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care what kind of time frame you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about here. Statistics are statistics. If we're talking about you've

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<v Speaker 2>got a one in like one hundred quintillion shot of

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<v Speaker 2>us even having this conversation right now. That's not random.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a possibility. I would say that. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>even like, so you're saying there's a chance. No, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying that's a non chance. That's a non no way.

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<v Speaker 2>This would at least tell me that there is some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of plan in place, there's some sort of intelligent design,

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<v Speaker 2>and therefore an intelligent designer.

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<v Speaker 3>We can argue back and forth about what that designer is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that is fun. Sure, there's always going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit of contemplation, you know. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that we all should be contemplating on our existence. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt about that. But but I don't know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>strange because you know, the way that we tell the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between reality and dreams, for example, right, Like, the

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<v Speaker 1>way that we're able to tell that this is reality

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<v Speaker 1>and not a dream is because we compare it to

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<v Speaker 1>dreams that are around for a very short time and

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<v Speaker 1>they are not continuous. Some people have you know, reoccurring

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<v Speaker 1>dreams and whatnot, and sometimes those dreams do continue within

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<v Speaker 1>the realm of the timeline. Right, But we're able to

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<v Speaker 1>tell that this is the reality because we wake up

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<v Speaker 1>every day, we do the same thing, the shit that

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<v Speaker 1>we did yesterday. There's proof of it and everything like that, Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Is it possible that we are just living in some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of weird, trippy, continuous fucking dream that we call reality.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know, And that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>say you should be open to the alien talk because

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know what the fuck we're doing here.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, with all this being said, let's move into this

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<v Speaker 2>with the WI files. Here A Jay kind of given

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<v Speaker 2>us the brief overview synopsis. If you will of the

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<v Speaker 2>Greata Treaty, A.

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<v Speaker 4>Secret treaty with aliens underground basis a war for the

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<v Speaker 4>future of humanity. Two whistleblowers dead for trying to expose

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<v Speaker 4>the truth. The Greata Treaty is one of the most

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<v Speaker 4>elaborate conspiracy theories of the last century.

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<v Speaker 5>But is it true.

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<v Speaker 4>The official story of Eisenhower's disappearance on February twentieth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>fifty four is still a dental visit. The White House

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<v Speaker 4>released the dentist name, doctor Francis A.

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<v Speaker 5>Pricell.

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<v Speaker 4>Records show he was a real dentist in Palm Springs,

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<v Speaker 4>but the story has problems. The Eisenhower Library has extensive

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<v Speaker 4>records of the President's health, every appointment, every procedure, but

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<v Speaker 4>there's no record of any dental work in February.

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<v Speaker 5>Nineteen fifty four. None.

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<v Speaker 4>The primary sources for the Garata Treaty are whistleblowers William

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<v Speaker 5>Some bold public predictions.

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<v Speaker 4>On June twenty eight, two thousand and one, on his

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<v Speaker 4>Now this time, very few people ever heard the name

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<v Speaker 4>Osama bin Laden. But six weeks later, on September eleventh,

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<v Speaker 4>the United States was attacked. After the attacks, Cooper said

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<v Speaker 4>on the air that he expected to be killed, not arrested.

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<v Speaker 5>Killed.

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<v Speaker 4>for tax evasion. Phil Schneider showed photos and material samples

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<v Speaker 6>I have different artifacts, explaining.

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<v Speaker 2>If he shows his left hand, you'll see most of

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<v Speaker 2>got in the gunfight with the aliens. But anyway, let's

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<v Speaker 6>Them are alien medals that have been produced. Here's a

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<v Speaker 5>He also believed his life was in danger.

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<v Speaker 4>In nineteen ninety five, during a lecture, he said, if

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<v Speaker 5>I was murdered a few months later.

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<v Speaker 4>Schneider was found dead in his apartment, strangled with a

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<v Speaker 4>surgical tube. Official cause of death suicide. There's a link

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<v Speaker 4>below to the full story of Phil Schneider and Dulce Bass.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a wild one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, strangled himself with a surgical tube to death. Who

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<v Speaker 2>Not hanging, not suicide, as in he hung himself. He

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<v Speaker 2>strangled himself with a surgical tube. You're never strangling yourself

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<v Speaker 2>with anything, doesn't matter what the object was. But who

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's that's the purpose of hanging is so that

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<v Speaker 1>your body's gravity strangles you, so that you don't have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Right look if you want to pull up the clip

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<v Speaker 2>or not the clip. But like you said, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>link in the description about the entire case file for

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<v Speaker 2>that quote unquote self strangulation.

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<v Speaker 3>I looked it up. It's fraud with bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>We are we and I promise you this just I

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<v Speaker 1>love all of this. I want to get to every

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<v Speaker 1>single detail of it. We're going to do an episode

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<v Speaker 1>on William Cooper. Oh that wasn't William Cooper. That was

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was self strangulated.

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<v Speaker 2>Cooper would gotten a gunfight with cops for income tax

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<v Speaker 2>evasion allegedly.

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<v Speaker 1>But even still, I like, if you look into William Cooper,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know why I confuse the two, if

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<v Speaker 1>you look into him, dude, it he's like Alex Jones

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<v Speaker 1>before Alex Jones.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, I mean Alex Jones called nine to eleven before

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<v Speaker 2>it happened too. Apparently this guy did six weeks prior.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting enough that he had a background of naval intelligence.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, shout out to the real ones, the

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<v Speaker 1>true like the people that were the conspiracy theorists before

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theories were cool. You know the thing I know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many people that are like, you mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a fed. It's like, okay, dude, at one point he

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<v Speaker 1>was a fit. Yes, I will agree with that, but

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<v Speaker 1>So as he died, oh you mean, it was a

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<v Speaker 2>It's you know, there's always going to be people that

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just I don't like that personally.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's that's a thing with conspiracy theorists in general,

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<v Speaker 1>is that we're all we always have our ears perked

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<v Speaker 1>up for who the FEDS are. I highly doubt that

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be a quote unquote fed that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>going to give you more real information than fake information,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. And that's why, like even

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can't speak on behalf of Alex Jones

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Some people think that he's been replaced. He's

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<v Speaker 1>lost a lot of weight, he looks very different, he's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of changed his tone on a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. But steroids will do that, though, what's

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<v Speaker 1>that steroids will do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Though?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean maybe, But yeah, anyway, let's continue.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Despite these very strange deaths, there's no physical proof of

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<v Speaker 4>the Greata Treaty, but the story doesn't come from nowhere.

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<v Speaker 4>The nineteen fifties saw a massive worldwide wave of UFO sightings.

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<v Speaker 4>Many were witnessed by credible military personnel, and after World

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<v Speaker 4>War Two, technology advanced quickly, maybe too quickly, computers, particle physics,

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<v Speaker 4>wireless communication, integrated circuits, fiber optics, stealth technology, anti gravity research.

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<v Speaker 4>I have an episode coming up about the acceleration in

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<v Speaker 4>technology that began in nineteen forty seven, the year of

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<v Speaker 4>the Roswell crash. The discoveries were coming fast, and they

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<v Speaker 4>were a little too convenient. Gerald light Really wrote a

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<v Speaker 4>letter in nineteen fifty four claiming he witnessed the Alien Meeting.

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<v Speaker 4>He describes seeing multiple alien craft and different species. He

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<v Speaker 4>named other witnesses Cardinal McIntyre, Franklin Allen, doctor Edwin Nurse.

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<v Speaker 4>Now doctor Nurse is interesting. He was an advisor to

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<v Speaker 4>President Truman at the time, but before that he was

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<v Speaker 4>a key figure from the Brookings Institution. Just a few

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<v Speaker 4>years after the grey out of Meeting, the Brookings Institution

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<v Speaker 4>released the Brookings Report. The report covers a broad range

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<v Speaker 4>of topics related to space exploration and its potential effects

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<v Speaker 4>on society, but one section, only a few paragraphs long,

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<v Speaker 4>has become infamous.

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<v Speaker 5>The report says that discovering intelligent.

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<v Speaker 4>Extraterrestrial life could cause major social upheaval. Now you might

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<v Speaker 4>have heard this as a classified report that claims aliens

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<v Speaker 4>exist and instructed NASA to suppress this information.

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<v Speaker 5>None of that is.

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<v Speaker 4>True, but the report did raise a question that if

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<v Speaker 4>aliens were discovered, the implications of disclosure should be considered carefully.

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<v Speaker 4>And then there's eyes an hour and is farewell addressed

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<v Speaker 4>to the nation. In nineteen sixty one, his final warning

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<v Speaker 5>It was about a threat from within.

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<v Speaker 4>He warned of the growing unchecked power of a military

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<v Speaker 4>industrial complex, a shadow government of unelected officials and defense contractors.

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<v Speaker 4>Eisenhower was one hundred percent right about that.

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<v Speaker 8>We recognize the imperative need for this development, yet we

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<v Speaker 8>must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources,

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<v Speaker 8>and livelihood are all involved, so is the very structure

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<v Speaker 8>of our society. In the councils of government, we must

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<v Speaker 8>guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or

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<v Speaker 9>The potential for.

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<v Speaker 8>The disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

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<v Speaker 4>So is this a president's parting wisdom or was it

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<v Speaker 4>a confession or a final desperate warning about the deal

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<v Speaker 4>he made and regretted. Now I don't know if the

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<v Speaker 4>story of the Grati Treaty is true, but the story's

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<v Speaker 4>observation of human nature is absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 5>We were offered two.

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<v Speaker 4>Paths, one of enlightenment and one of power. We chose power,

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<v Speaker 4>And if given the same offer today, we'd make the

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<v Speaker 9>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>I wish human race was ready for an awakening that

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<v Speaker 4>would end violence and war and starvation, poverty.

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<v Speaker 5>And all of that.

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<v Speaker 4>And I believe one day we'll get there. But that

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<v Speaker 4>day is not today. The world is a dangerous place

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<v Speaker 4>and always has been. The Nordics offered peace only after

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<v Speaker 4>we disarmed. That's a big risk to take when the

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<v Speaker 4>Soviets were armed to the teeth, And what if the

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<v Speaker 4>Nordics were, They were a bigger threat than the Soviets.

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<v Speaker 4>So how do we know we can trust them? Think

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<v Speaker 4>of it this way. You're in a room with a stranger.

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<v Speaker 4>You both have guns pointed at each other. The stranger says,

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<v Speaker 4>me your gun first. Now you want to believe him,

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<v Speaker 4>but you don't know him. So now the choice is yours.

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<v Speaker 4>Trust the stranger and risk your own survival, or squeeze

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<v Speaker 4>and guarantee it be honest, which would you choose?

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<v Speaker 3>Agreed? One thousand percent.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I understand the hangup. I do, And obviously, like

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<v Speaker 1>we would, we would hope for peace and prosperity and

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<v Speaker 1>wisdom and everlasting life and you know all these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if these beings are suggesting that we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get any of those things, you know you would you

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<v Speaker 1>would be inclined to want to believe it. But you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know them, like you said, you know, like how

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<v Speaker 1>would you sort that out? You know, like, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>say it. What if there was a third option? What

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<v Speaker 3>But there wasn't one given right at that moment.

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<v Speaker 2>They had only made contact with these two different species, allegedly,

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<v Speaker 2>if we are to believe the story right, and one

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<v Speaker 2>of them was talking about enlightenment and peace and love

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<v Speaker 2>and all these things, which are beautiful concepts.

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<v Speaker 1>For the record, I know that I'm the warmonger on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it, all right, But just so we're all clear,

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<v Speaker 2>I really do wish that we could live in a

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<v Speaker 2>world free from human greed, few free from warfare, free

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<v Speaker 2>from all these negative things that have plagued the race

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<v Speaker 2>since the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>Of time.

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<v Speaker 3>I want that more than anybody, right, or as much.

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<v Speaker 2>As anybody should say, But unfortunately that is never going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a thing as long as human nature is

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<v Speaker 2>still human nature.

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<v Speaker 1>But as humans could evolve. Like, if you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there, whether you want to, maybe you don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>in evolution. I'm just talking about like the human mind

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<v Speaker 3>We want to believe that, and I, in a way

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<v Speaker 3>I do right.

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<v Speaker 2>In a way, I do believe that we have socially

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<v Speaker 2>evolved a long way from our ancient predecessors. But then

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta be honest. Have you ever read Marcus Aurelius's

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<v Speaker 2>book on Stoicism? I've glanced through it, Okay, or Platinus

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<v Speaker 2>or Aristotle or any of these philosophers that we would

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<v Speaker 2>consider ancient. Right, humans have been human ing. People have

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<v Speaker 2>been peopling since the beginning of time. Yeah, technology might

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<v Speaker 2>have taken a step up, nutrition might have gone up

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<v Speaker 2>a level or two. We have more communication now, we

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<v Speaker 2>But the day to day interaction of what makes humans

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<v Speaker 2>behave in a way that we do has pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>gone unchanged. And to that point, also from caveman days

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<v Speaker 2>technological advancements really happen. As soon as fire was created,

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<v Speaker 2>they were trying to find a way to fuck up

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<v Speaker 2>a bigger club, they were finding a way to use

425
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<v Speaker 2>these bigger clubs to fuck up that other tribe. Then

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<v Speaker 2>we got spear points yo, a pointy stick that doesn't break.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold the fuck on, now we could use it. It

428
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<v Speaker 2>just that's the way it's always gone. And I'm not

429
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<v Speaker 2>saying that everything has gone towards warfare, but the vast

430
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<v Speaker 2>majority of our advancement has been because of conflict.

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<v Speaker 1>This, i believe, is the reason why we have had

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<v Speaker 1>such end quotes enlightened individuals throughout the course of the

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<v Speaker 1>annals of history. Right, whether you think that it was

434
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<v Speaker 1>Jesus or Buddha or some kind of mystic, maybe it

435
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<v Speaker 1>was uh name them, some kind of guru whatever they

436
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<v Speaker 1>seem to be, always kind of pushing a message of love,

437
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<v Speaker 1>of peace and harmony and all these things, and there

438
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<v Speaker 1>have been people that have had changes of hearts and

439
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<v Speaker 1>they've moved on from their fraught ways, right, and.

440
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<v Speaker 3>We should strive for this one hundred percent with you.

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<v Speaker 1>But the difference between in my opinion, but the difference

442
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<v Speaker 1>between religion for the most part, and these kind of

443
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<v Speaker 1>messages is very clear. It's that you're not going to

444
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<v Speaker 1>get those things until you die and go to heaven.

445
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<v Speaker 1>And what some you know, other enlightened individuals, mystics, gurus, whatever,

446
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<v Speaker 1>will say that actually you can kind of have a

447
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<v Speaker 1>little bit of heaven on earth as well. And that's

448
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<v Speaker 1>really the difference because if you believe that we are

449
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<v Speaker 1>just human souls, and this is gonna get weird, But

450
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<v Speaker 1>if you believe that we're human souls, what makes you

451
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<v Speaker 1>believe that we're not going to have those human mindset

452
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<v Speaker 1>activities you know in heaven as well? You know, like,

453
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<v Speaker 1>if that's all we are, why would we not carry

454
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<v Speaker 1>those with us? Is it? If we're human souls?

455
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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>No, you, I'm with you, But I also believe that

457
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<v Speaker 2>we're souls having a human experience, right, not human souls

458
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<v Speaker 2>that ourselves is not inherently.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the clinching that that is the most like clutch

460
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<v Speaker 1>thing you've ever said in your life, right there, Keith.

461
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<v Speaker 1>That is the difference is is that we are souls

462
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<v Speaker 1>first before we're humans. If the idea that we can

463
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<v Speaker 1>become you know, I don't want to say enlightened, but

464
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<v Speaker 1>if we can get there, to to a point of

465
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<v Speaker 1>peace and prosperity and being able to live amongst each

466
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<v Speaker 1>other happily and working accordingly with others and everything like that,

467
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<v Speaker 1>if we can get there, it's within our nature. If

468
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<v Speaker 1>we are souls first before humans. Would you disagree with that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? And no, Yes and no. Here, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>When you say religion teaches you these things, there's only

471
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<v Speaker 2>one religion period that teaches that you are an imperfect person,

472
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<v Speaker 2>and that's okay, we accept you anyway. You just have

473
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<v Speaker 2>to acknowledge your imperfection. All other religions on earth teach

474
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<v Speaker 2>you that you can do enough work to counterbalance the bad.

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<v Speaker 2>You could do enough good to counteract the bad that

476
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<v Speaker 2>you have done on this earth. That's the vast majority.

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<v Speaker 2>There's only one group out there that is saying, actually,

478
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<v Speaker 2>that's an impossibility. Right But neither here nor there, the

479
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<v Speaker 2>human psyche take away religion take away creationism, take away

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<v Speaker 2>anything else. The example that AJ gave you and a

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<v Speaker 2>stranger both have guns point at each other. You can

482
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<v Speaker 2>either trust this stranger with your survival or you could

483
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<v Speaker 2>take that survival into your own hands. Regardless of what

484
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<v Speaker 2>God you worship, regardless of what your background and upbringing was, whatever,

485
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<v Speaker 2>every person gun to their head would make the same

486
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<v Speaker 2>decision that Eisenhower made with these aliens.

487
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<v Speaker 1>That's very glass half empty, though, wouldn't you think about it?

488
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<v Speaker 1>Like so, that's like I can make the same argument.

489
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<v Speaker 1>Let's say you just start dating somebody you really like

490
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<v Speaker 1>that person, that really that other person really likes you,

491
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<v Speaker 1>but you've been scorned in the past, and you know

492
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<v Speaker 1>you're not trying to put yourself in that vulnerable position again.

493
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<v Speaker 1>So instead of her cheating on you and breaking your heart,

494
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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna cheat on her first.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about your own survival, not your emotional feelings

496
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<v Speaker 2>or anything like that.

497
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<v Speaker 1>We're emotions and survival or hand in hand. Oh not

498
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<v Speaker 1>at all, not at all. No emotions and survival.

499
00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:42.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about you living to see tomorrow morning, or

500
00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:44.960
<v Speaker 2>you feeling okay about yourself. These are two completely different

501
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.640
<v Speaker 2>conversations self preservation is always going.

502
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<v Speaker 3>To take hold.

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<v Speaker 1>Self preservation is a personal thing. A personal thing definitely

504
00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:55.640
<v Speaker 1>connects to your emotions, is it not.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an it's an instinctual thing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like lizard brain, animalists, survival of the fittest. When

507
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<v Speaker 2>it all push come to shove, gun to your head,

508
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<v Speaker 2>when all the chips are down, self preservation is gonna

509
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<v Speaker 2>take over long before your logical thinking brain.

510
00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:12.079
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I don't know. We're gonna say that.

511
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<v Speaker 3>Was even done.

512
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<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, in Nazi Germany, they did

513
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<v Speaker 2>experiments and for the record, I should give a disclosure

514
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<v Speaker 2>warning on this one. This is not a pretty conversation.

515
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<v Speaker 2>People are gonna disagree with me on this one. Y'all

516
00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:26.359
<v Speaker 2>could look this up. I was disgusted when I found

517
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<v Speaker 2>this out. But it goes in line with this. Okay,

518
00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:31.799
<v Speaker 2>human animal brain, lizard brain, whatever you want to say

519
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:36.440
<v Speaker 2>when survival is on the table. Okay, they had mother

520
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<v Speaker 2>and child and they'll put them in a cell together,

521
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<v Speaker 2>and they would give them enough food to survive, not

522
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<v Speaker 2>a lot, but enough, and then every day they would

523
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<v Speaker 2>start removing a little bit of food, just a little bit,

524
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<v Speaker 2>and over the course of six months, it got to

525
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<v Speaker 2>where there was only enough food for one of them

526
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:55.960
<v Speaker 2>to survive. Now, before I say what I'm about to say,

527
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<v Speaker 2>every person thinking about this would say, well, clearly the

528
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<v Speaker 2>mother would give the child the food and like to

529
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<v Speaker 2>make sure that their child survived, because that's maternal, that's instinctual,

530
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<v Speaker 2>that's all these things correct. Sure, every single time, without fail,

531
00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:17.079
<v Speaker 2>the mother would eat the food and let their child starve.

532
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:21.799
<v Speaker 2>When I'm talking pure animalistic instinct. Brain is on the table,

533
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<v Speaker 2>and survival is what's there. You protecting yourself. Self preservation

534
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:30.440
<v Speaker 2>is always going to take hold. That's just how this goes,

535
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<v Speaker 2>not time. And I can make several arguments against that. Okay,

536
00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:37.759
<v Speaker 2>maybe it happened every time over there, but that there,

537
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:41.839
<v Speaker 2>there is plenty of historical arguments that you know, that

538
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<v Speaker 2>prove that we're not one hundred percent of the time

539
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:47.759
<v Speaker 2>gonna do that. One's in the moment, like a car

540
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:49.680
<v Speaker 2>wreck or something where like the dad like throws their

541
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<v Speaker 2>kid out of the car and they die, Not in

542
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:52.640
<v Speaker 2>the moment, that's different.

543
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<v Speaker 1>Sure, Sure, So think about he hum't I can't even

544
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<v Speaker 1>believe I'm going here, But I'm gonna kind of bring

545
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<v Speaker 1>up a story that might tickle you own damn fancy.

546
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<v Speaker 1>How about the time that, uh, let's just bring up

547
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<v Speaker 1>Jesus here for a second. Jesus knew that he was

548
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<v Speaker 1>going to die, now I could. I know what you're

549
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:14.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna say. He was Actually he was fine. Purpose how

550
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<v Speaker 1>about all the people that died after him that were

551
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:22.559
<v Speaker 1>trying to preach his story? Right, all those people, they

552
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:25.559
<v Speaker 1>had two choices. You can go along to get along,

553
00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>or you can keep on preaching Jesus's story. Those people

554
00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:32.160
<v Speaker 1>chose to keep on preaching Jesus's story and died as

555
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<v Speaker 1>a result of it. So it's not always about self preservation.

556
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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes there is a higher reason. And that's what I'm

557
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<v Speaker 1>trying to say right here, is that if you are

558
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<v Speaker 1>sticking to that higher reason, you're not going to resort

559
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<v Speaker 1>to your animal human mind, because the spiritual self transcends

560
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<v Speaker 1>that every single time. If you put it out in front.

561
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<v Speaker 2>But they also understood that they would have lied, then yeah,

562
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:56.640
<v Speaker 2>they might live today, but their souls would be damned.

563
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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. And so you can look at

564
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:05.000
<v Speaker 1>this a multitude of different ways, but look at it.

565
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<v Speaker 2>For the Eisenhower example, he is the president of the

566
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<v Speaker 2>greatest nation to ever walk the face of the earth, right,

567
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:13.759
<v Speaker 2>and we are currently in a war with Russia, and

568
00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:16.920
<v Speaker 2>we honestly don't know if these extra treshial beings are

569
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<v Speaker 2>also cutting to deal with Russia.

570
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<v Speaker 3>They may lie to us and sign this treaty. We

571
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<v Speaker 3>don't know them. We don't know if they're being forthright.

572
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<v Speaker 2>So either a we sacrifice all of our nukes, all

573
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<v Speaker 2>of our tanks, all of our guns, even your personal

574
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:35.519
<v Speaker 2>belongings of guns. We as a nation, sacrifice all of them,

575
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<v Speaker 2>but we gain enlightenment. Or we cut a deal with

576
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:41.960
<v Speaker 2>them and we let them experiment on some people, which

577
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:44.119
<v Speaker 2>are not happy about, but we pull ahead of all

578
00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:46.640
<v Speaker 2>of our competition by fifty two one hundred years in

579
00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:51.240
<v Speaker 2>the technology conversation, and we become the undisputed only superpower

580
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<v Speaker 2>on Earth. I honestly don't believe that any president in

581
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<v Speaker 2>that position would have chose differently.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's substitute names here for us. All right, this is

583
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<v Speaker 1>just gonna be kind of a mind game right here. Okay,

584
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<v Speaker 1>So you have an individual or a group of individuals

585
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<v Speaker 1>said to be enlightened, offering you know, peace and love

586
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:14.279
<v Speaker 1>and all the hippie stuff, right, and and that that

587
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:18.599
<v Speaker 1>individual goes into the White House offers this deal. Obviously

588
00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:21.799
<v Speaker 1>we know what happened to Eisenhower turned it down, told you, eh,

589
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:24.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, we we don't stand to benefit from you.

590
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:26.519
<v Speaker 1>We stand to benefit from the other people who are

591
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<v Speaker 1>going to give us technology that's gonna help us become

592
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<v Speaker 1>the greatest nation in the history of the fucking world, right,

593
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<v Speaker 1>which ultimately he did. However, if you were to substitute

594
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<v Speaker 1>those Nordics or those you know, even even valiant Door,

595
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<v Speaker 1>if you were to substitute names like that with names

596
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:48.480
<v Speaker 1>like what if Jesus walked through that door and he

597
00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:51.400
<v Speaker 1>was offering the same thing, If he was offering the

598
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:54.359
<v Speaker 1>same thing, do you just personally, do you think that

599
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<v Speaker 1>Eisenhower would have turned him down too.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's look at the example, given what happened, and when

601
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:03.599
<v Speaker 2>Jesus did that exact thing, they fucking crucified them.

602
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<v Speaker 1>For it, thank you.

603
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so humans have been doing human ass shit since

604
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:10.319
<v Speaker 2>the beginning of time, right, But my point, humans in

605
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:12.000
<v Speaker 2>power would definitely do that.

606
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<v Speaker 1>But I think that the masses wouldn't agree with that

607
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<v Speaker 1>if you put that on a mass scale, like if

608
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<v Speaker 1>that was up for a vote, like I am of

609
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<v Speaker 1>the belief at least of the United States. I'm of

610
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<v Speaker 1>the belief that the majority of Americans would rather have

611
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<v Speaker 1>peace and prosperity and no sickness over technology that only

612
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the government has access to, technology that is going to

613
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<v Speaker 1>make us the rulers of the free world, to make

614
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<v Speaker 1>us the big dick and police state that we are today.

615
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<v Speaker 1>We would much rather have peace, prosperity, and anti sickness.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't you say that if you put that to a

617
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<v Speaker 1>vote to every American.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you were put that to a vote to

619
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<v Speaker 2>every American, the vast majority we are talking about the

620
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<v Speaker 2>saying that eighty four percent of them got the first

621
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<v Speaker 2>jab with no background.

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<v Speaker 1>If it wasn't the Uganda you were, if it wasn't propagandized,

623
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<v Speaker 1>and people were actually given a real, actual opportunity to

624
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<v Speaker 1>make a decision without being manipulated, if it was on

625
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<v Speaker 1>the table directly as it is.

626
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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that anybody would believe it. I think

627
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<v Speaker 2>you give people way too much credit.

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<v Speaker 6>Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>Now maybe i'm again, I'm all, but we're talking about

630
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<v Speaker 1>the mob.

631
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<v Speaker 3>We're talking about the masks.

632
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<v Speaker 2>An individual, not somebody in power, your average Joe, blow,

633
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:32.039
<v Speaker 2>your neighbor, right, who given this decision if they would

634
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<v Speaker 2>want ultimate power or ultimate enlightenment, maybe you might be

635
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:36.159
<v Speaker 2>onto something there.

636
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:38.599
<v Speaker 3>Mass vote for the entire nation.

637
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:42.960
<v Speaker 1>No, but that does change the story, at least for you, right,

638
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:46.440
<v Speaker 1>because the Nordics or valiantor or anybody can walk through

639
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:50.519
<v Speaker 1>those Pentagon doors and have conversations with White Eisenhower and

640
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:53.280
<v Speaker 1>present them with that opportunity. But if it was Jesus,

641
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:55.400
<v Speaker 1>you'd be a lot more inclined to pick the side

642
00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:57.400
<v Speaker 1>of peace as opposed to technology in war.

643
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<v Speaker 3>Right, I think he would have still chose the same decision.

644
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:03.920
<v Speaker 1>No, no, you oh me, yeah.

645
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:07.639
<v Speaker 2>Acting on behalf of my nation. I honestly don't know

646
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:12.559
<v Speaker 2>which decision I would have made Jesus for myself as Jacob. Sure,

647
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:16.559
<v Speaker 2>but it's it's not it's not so clear cut and dry, dude.

648
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:19.239
<v Speaker 2>What it's not.

649
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:21.280
<v Speaker 1>It's not so simple like if you're talking about the

650
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:24.320
<v Speaker 1>second coming of Jesus. Yeah, that's supposed to be a

651
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:28.760
<v Speaker 1>sign of the end times, So you would go against Jesus.

652
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:31.400
<v Speaker 3>No, No, me, personally, I would not.

653
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:33.280
<v Speaker 2>But I'm also not going to vote on behalf of

654
00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:36.400
<v Speaker 2>my entire nation for something like that, to where it's like, Okay,

655
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:37.280
<v Speaker 2>everybody goes to.

656
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Heaven, but you need to give me all your guns. Like,

657
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, come back with that. What if you were

658
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:44.239
<v Speaker 1>president in that possess That's.

659
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:44.599
<v Speaker 3>What I'm saying.

660
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:47.639
<v Speaker 2>If I was president and and Jesus was to come

661
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:50.079
<v Speaker 2>and say, all right, I can guarantee all of your

662
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:52.400
<v Speaker 2>nation will go to heaven, but you're gonna need to

663
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:55.480
<v Speaker 2>hand over your guns, you wouldn't want to make that decision.

664
00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:59.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, Yeah, how how would that look? How does

665
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:01.920
<v Speaker 2>that play out? I'm gonna let out some government manda.

666
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:03.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to pass a new law saying that we

667
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:06.679
<v Speaker 2>are gonna take all of your guns, because every fascist

668
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:09.239
<v Speaker 2>dictator throughout history who's done that, it's gone so well

669
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:10.760
<v Speaker 2>for them, there's never been resistance.

670
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:12.800
<v Speaker 1>And then it was gonna take away.

671
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:20.280
<v Speaker 2>All the nukes, weapons, not just weapons in general, okay, everything, tanks, guns, this, pistol, this,

672
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:24.159
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna take everything because we can't have anything of

673
00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:27.800
<v Speaker 2>an aggressive nature for us to achieve this enlightenment. Right, So,

674
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:30.480
<v Speaker 2>if you're telling me that the second coming of Jesus, well, okay,

675
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:32.559
<v Speaker 2>let's just for the sake of conversation, let's just say

676
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:35.679
<v Speaker 2>it's not the revelation in time second coming.

677
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:38.000
<v Speaker 1>All right, maybe they just made a pit stop a

678
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:40.400
<v Speaker 1>thousand years before the Second Coming.

679
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:43.920
<v Speaker 2>All right, fair, And Jesus was telling me if I

680
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:46.679
<v Speaker 2>was to make it to where all of my countrymen

681
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:49.960
<v Speaker 2>were to hand over their weapons and then everybody's guaranteed

682
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:52.280
<v Speaker 2>to go to heaven. I don't even think that there's

683
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:54.719
<v Speaker 2>a way that I could spin that narrative to make

684
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:58.039
<v Speaker 2>everybody believe me, even if I wanted to, because I do.

685
00:36:58.119 --> 00:36:59.760
<v Speaker 2>I do want everybody to go to heaven. I do

686
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:01.960
<v Speaker 2>want everybody to have eternal life, all of the things.

687
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:06.800
<v Speaker 2>But I honestly cannot imagine any president, any of them,

688
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:10.159
<v Speaker 2>name one, doesn't matter, any president coming on the airwaves

689
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:12.719
<v Speaker 2>and being like, we need a massive gun turn in

690
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:15.519
<v Speaker 2>and all these things, and I can guarantee you'll go

691
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:17.480
<v Speaker 2>to heaven. And even if Jesus himself was to gill

692
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:19.440
<v Speaker 2>on the mic and say all these things, I have

693
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:22.239
<v Speaker 2>a very hard time believing the people would actually respond

694
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:23.079
<v Speaker 2>to that possible.

695
00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even saying that everybody would go to heaven,

696
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>because what these individuals were saying was that essentially you

697
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:32.039
<v Speaker 1>could have heaven on earth. Well, you brought up the

698
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:34.199
<v Speaker 1>Jesus example, So that's why I said, the whole go

699
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:36.599
<v Speaker 1>to heaven. I know, but it's not the second coming time.

700
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:39.320
<v Speaker 1>We'll call it the one and a half coming or whatever, right,

701
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:42.559
<v Speaker 1>just for you know, for the example. But like if

702
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:44.679
<v Speaker 1>Jesus was to come during that time, you can have

703
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:46.519
<v Speaker 1>heaven on earth. You just got to give up all

704
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:49.400
<v Speaker 1>the fucking weapons of mass destruction or whatever.

705
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:50.039
<v Speaker 9>Right.

706
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:53.400
<v Speaker 1>And I can cure AIDS, I can cure cancer, I

707
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:57.599
<v Speaker 1>can cure sickness, COVID, shmovid, right, like all of these

708
00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:00.480
<v Speaker 1>even though it already is, but all of these things

709
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:04.199
<v Speaker 1>and everybody will live in a community of happiness and

710
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:08.039
<v Speaker 1>prosperity and everything like that, you wouldn't you wouldn't take

711
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:08.920
<v Speaker 1>them up on that offer.

712
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:11.960
<v Speaker 3>I honestly don't know to be honest with you.

713
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Because God, what are you talking about?

714
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Just because we as America had this prosperity and all

715
00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:20.519
<v Speaker 2>these things, does that mean that our enemies are going

716
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:23.039
<v Speaker 2>to just leave us alone. We're not going to get attacked,

717
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:25.320
<v Speaker 2>especially now that they know that we have no weapons.

718
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:26.079
<v Speaker 3>How do you know?

719
00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you would, all right, So I get what

720
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:33.239
<v Speaker 1>you're saying. You're saying that if this offer was only

721
00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:36.880
<v Speaker 1>to America and to nobody else, you'd be a little

722
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:38.840
<v Speaker 1>bit less inclined to take them up on that offer.

723
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:41.920
<v Speaker 1>But if it was offered to America and every other country,

724
00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:45.320
<v Speaker 1>and every other country decided upon peace, then you would

725
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:46.119
<v Speaker 1>be more open to it.

726
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:49.039
<v Speaker 2>So now I have to trust that our enemies are

727
00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:50.920
<v Speaker 2>actually going to stand by their word for the first

728
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:53.840
<v Speaker 2>time ever and actually give up their weapons for enlightenment,

729
00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:56.719
<v Speaker 2>and that they're not going to just with whole weapons

730
00:38:56.840 --> 00:38:59.320
<v Speaker 2>that once everyone else on Earth has nothing, they are

731
00:38:59.360 --> 00:38:59.920
<v Speaker 2>now the king.

732
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:03.039
<v Speaker 1>So you just don't believe, You don't believe that there

733
00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:07.599
<v Speaker 1>could ever be peace on earth ever ever. Sorry, come

734
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:08.840
<v Speaker 1>back and intervene again.

735
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:10.719
<v Speaker 3>That's pretty much it.

736
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:12.920
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna take an actual act of God for there

737
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:14.039
<v Speaker 2>to ever be world peace.

738
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:15.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry. Human nature is human nature.

739
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:21.039
<v Speaker 1>Damn you have ye have little faith, sir, I don't know.

740
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:22.039
<v Speaker 3>I have faith in God.

741
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:24.559
<v Speaker 1>I just have a less than zero faith in humanity,

742
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:27.400
<v Speaker 1>like by and large, faith in God, but no faith

743
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:31.519
<v Speaker 1>in his creation. That's that's that's kind of a slap

744
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:35.239
<v Speaker 1>in the basically. I mean, I get it, I do.

745
00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:37.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even trying to throw shade. I'm just saying

746
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:40.880
<v Speaker 1>that if there was some kind of divine intermediary that

747
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:44.239
<v Speaker 1>would be able to get everybody on the same page.

748
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:46.679
<v Speaker 1>You would be inclined to not believe that that's even

749
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:48.159
<v Speaker 1>a possibility.

750
00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:51.159
<v Speaker 2>Because the cycle of humanity happens right. Good times create

751
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:54.840
<v Speaker 2>weak men. Weak men create hard times, hard times create

752
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:58.199
<v Speaker 2>hard men, hard men create good times, and the cycle repeats.

753
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:02.360
<v Speaker 2>It's been done so throughout history, and again we can acknowledge.

754
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Took a look at ancient Greece, ancient Persia, ancient China,

755
00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:08.320
<v Speaker 2>ancient Rome. Whatever, humans have been human ing, people have

756
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:10.679
<v Speaker 2>been peopling, and yeah, there's some nuances here and there,

757
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:13.719
<v Speaker 2>depending on what century you're talking about, but essentially, yeah,

758
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:15.880
<v Speaker 2>every time they get to like a really good level

759
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:19.639
<v Speaker 2>of prosperity, this kingdom, this country, whatever the case, nobody's

760
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:22.039
<v Speaker 2>fucking with them because they are top dog. They got

761
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:24.599
<v Speaker 2>more than enough food to feed everybody. They've got decent

762
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:27.239
<v Speaker 2>medicine per the day and age. Would bear with me here,

763
00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:29.440
<v Speaker 2>all these things they are killing it. If they just

764
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:33.280
<v Speaker 2>stay the course, they'll fucking rule for a thousand years.

765
00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:38.440
<v Speaker 2>And somehow they can't. They literally can't because they can't

766
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:39.199
<v Speaker 2>help themselves.

767
00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:41.639
<v Speaker 3>But fuck it up. Because humans are humans.

768
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:46.639
<v Speaker 1>I have I have found the roadblock, the divide between

769
00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:50.400
<v Speaker 1>us two. We finally got there. Like I think, I

770
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:52.679
<v Speaker 1>think faith in humanity and I don't. Yeah, I have

771
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:56.199
<v Speaker 1>faith that things can change. I'm not saying that I

772
00:40:56.239 --> 00:40:59.920
<v Speaker 1>have faith necessarily in humanity. But if we are all,

773
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.320
<v Speaker 1>whether you believe that we're all one, or you believe

774
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:06.000
<v Speaker 1>that we're all God's creation or whatever, I'm inclined to

775
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:08.880
<v Speaker 1>believe that, let's just say we are God's creation, right,

776
00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm inclined to believe that God would have enough love

777
00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:14.320
<v Speaker 1>in his heart that eventually humanity would be able to

778
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:17.199
<v Speaker 1>figure it out because we would be therefore an extension

779
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:20.280
<v Speaker 1>of him, right, And if we are an extension of him,

780
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:23.280
<v Speaker 1>of course we would have the ability to be able

781
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:27.800
<v Speaker 1>to transcend our human, animalistic mind in order to even

782
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:32.360
<v Speaker 1>somewhat get on the same on the same page as

783
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:35.000
<v Speaker 1>as God or the creation or the creator.

784
00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:37.519
<v Speaker 2>Bro, we can't even get on the same page with

785
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:42.199
<v Speaker 2>things that are very basic, like realistically very basic.

786
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:44.639
<v Speaker 1>I guess I just more of an optimist than you are.

787
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:47.880
<v Speaker 2>And I do believe that world peace will happen, But

788
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:50.039
<v Speaker 2>I also think that is a massive sign and that

789
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:52.920
<v Speaker 2>it's not going to last very long. But it's going

790
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:55.320
<v Speaker 2>to be by divine intervention, right, It's only going to

791
00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:57.320
<v Speaker 2>be for a few years, and all this until the

792
00:41:57.519 --> 00:41:58.880
<v Speaker 2>thousand year reign and all this stuff, like.

793
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:00.519
<v Speaker 3>I said, not going on in religious box here.

794
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah, if we are, if we're really gonna call

795
00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:06.119
<v Speaker 2>it out for what it is, it just doesn't seem

796
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:09.039
<v Speaker 2>like it's a real possibility. We can't agree as a

797
00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:11.880
<v Speaker 2>as a culture, not even as a people, not even

798
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:16.079
<v Speaker 2>as a world race of humanity, we as a culture

799
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:20.719
<v Speaker 2>in just America, hell, just your state can't agree if

800
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:23.320
<v Speaker 2>we should have a strong military or a weak military,

801
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:26.400
<v Speaker 2>how many genders there are? Is COVID real or is

802
00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:29.320
<v Speaker 2>it a threat? Are kim trails real? We cannot agree

803
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:32.880
<v Speaker 2>on the very basics. There's no way you're gonna get

804
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:37.000
<v Speaker 2>people to agree on what is enlightenment Jonathan, Right, Enlightenment

805
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:39.599
<v Speaker 2>for you might be different than enlightenment for me, which

806
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:42.239
<v Speaker 2>is completely different than enlightenment for my four year old.

807
00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:43.360
<v Speaker 3>You see what I'm saying.

808
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess my point is is that I believe that

809
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:49.239
<v Speaker 1>it's a possibility, and I believe that the powers that

810
00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:53.119
<v Speaker 1>be believe that that's also a possibility. Otherwise, why would

811
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:56.159
<v Speaker 1>they rain down on us, rain down on us every

812
00:42:56.239 --> 00:43:00.599
<v Speaker 1>single day with propaganda, with things that make us sick,

813
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:03.679
<v Speaker 1>with things that make us crazy, with things that are

814
00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:07.920
<v Speaker 1>designed to take away the human will. Right if if

815
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:11.840
<v Speaker 1>if they honestly thought that we were that dumb and

816
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:15.320
<v Speaker 1>that's stupid, and that incapable of being able to transcend

817
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:18.079
<v Speaker 1>this human animalistic mind, why would they go to the

818
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:21.519
<v Speaker 1>fucking corners of the earth to try and manipulate us

819
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:23.519
<v Speaker 1>in every single way. I believe that we have it

820
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:27.400
<v Speaker 1>in us, but it's probably not even probably, I'm sure

821
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:30.719
<v Speaker 1>of it that that's that's why they hit us in

822
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:34.679
<v Speaker 1>all these different directions, such as the camtrails, the floor ride,

823
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:39.239
<v Speaker 1>the five G, all the propaganda via news and information outlets,

824
00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:43.679
<v Speaker 1>every every single bill that is passed, every single dividing

825
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:47.079
<v Speaker 1>thing that they possibly do. They do that to prevent

826
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:51.679
<v Speaker 1>us from getting to what we're inevitably supposed to to

827
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:55.840
<v Speaker 1>get to, which I believe would be working in unison

828
00:43:55.880 --> 00:43:56.960
<v Speaker 1>and as a as a whole.

829
00:43:57.960 --> 00:43:59.559
<v Speaker 3>So I think they just do it for the money.

830
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:01.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're trying to extore as much money and

831
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:03.239
<v Speaker 2>influence and power out of us as they can.

832
00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:06.239
<v Speaker 1>They print the money, they're the ones in control of

833
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:08.360
<v Speaker 1>the money. Why do they need to manipulate the fucking

834
00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:09.000
<v Speaker 1>people for that.

835
00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:12.199
<v Speaker 2>The worth of the dollar is not determined by the

836
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:15.119
<v Speaker 2>people using it. That just because they print the money

837
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:16.920
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that they create the money.

838
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:17.679
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying.

839
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:20.960
<v Speaker 2>They're like, if they create such a system of consumerism, right,

840
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:22.960
<v Speaker 2>and they hit us with all these chemicals and all

841
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:26.280
<v Speaker 2>these things to double, triple, quadruple down on us being

842
00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:29.760
<v Speaker 2>consumer based people, then we constantly stay in debt, which

843
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:32.440
<v Speaker 2>means we constantly owe someone, which means we're constantly our

844
00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:35.440
<v Speaker 2>nuts are and advice to them, whoever they might be.

845
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's the bank, maybe it's the government, maybe it's

846
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:40.199
<v Speaker 2>the RS, maybe it's whoever. Then if we get sick

847
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:42.559
<v Speaker 2>from all these chemicals, we have to go to them

848
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:45.639
<v Speaker 2>our bullshit medical system to try to get clean and

849
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:46.760
<v Speaker 2>get healed.

850
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:49.320
<v Speaker 1>And then we're getting more chemicals to fight the chemicals.

851
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:50.079
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I'm saying.

852
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:53.400
<v Speaker 2>It's a perpetual cycle of keeping us so dogmatically faced

853
00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:55.760
<v Speaker 2>down in the dirt that we'll never start looking up.

854
00:44:56.159 --> 00:44:57.920
<v Speaker 3>I think that's more or less what that's about.

855
00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:03.159
<v Speaker 1>So we're just coming into a philosophical disagreement, I'm you know,

856
00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:06.559
<v Speaker 1>of the mind. The reason why you know, my personal

857
00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:10.760
<v Speaker 1>willingness to talk about conspiracies every day is to try

858
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:13.559
<v Speaker 1>and show all the good cult members of the world

859
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:16.079
<v Speaker 1>and of the universe, if we have any alien listeners

860
00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:18.760
<v Speaker 1>out there. Is to try and show all the different

861
00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:21.440
<v Speaker 1>ways that our government and everything has transpired in the

862
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:25.239
<v Speaker 1>past and currently happening in ways that are designed to

863
00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:30.000
<v Speaker 1>turn you into more of your human, animalistic nature and

864
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:34.719
<v Speaker 1>away from your spiritual you know whatever creation like nature.

865
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:38.679
<v Speaker 1>That's honestly, that is the reason why I do this,

866
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:41.079
<v Speaker 1>like it is the reason because I think that if

867
00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:43.559
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't for all these things, we would have been

868
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:44.519
<v Speaker 1>there a long time ago.

869
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:47.159
<v Speaker 3>Bro, we're kind of on the same path here.

870
00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:50.199
<v Speaker 2>But I also kind of believe that humans are humans,

871
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:53.280
<v Speaker 2>not the soul. The human is more or less an

872
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:55.920
<v Speaker 2>animal by nature, right, And things that feel good for

873
00:45:55.960 --> 00:45:57.880
<v Speaker 2>the body are typically not good for the soul.

874
00:45:58.519 --> 00:45:59.880
<v Speaker 3>So I believe that.

875
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:03.039
<v Speaker 2>We have to turn more towards our soul's health rather

876
00:46:03.079 --> 00:46:04.920
<v Speaker 2>than our body and what feels good.

877
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:05.639
<v Speaker 9>Right.

878
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:07.960
<v Speaker 3>I think we're supposed to. I think that's the entire point.

879
00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:10.840
<v Speaker 2>We're supposed to deny the flesh that our soul can

880
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:13.599
<v Speaker 2>be for to use your terms enlightened.

881
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're supposed to. But with given, But with given

882
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:22.719
<v Speaker 1>the options of doing one or the other, you choose

883
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:24.360
<v Speaker 1>the one of the flesh.

884
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:27.119
<v Speaker 2>The humans are gonna be the humans, dude. The soul

885
00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:29.440
<v Speaker 2>is not speaking at that point. The human is saying,

886
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:32.719
<v Speaker 2>all right, hand you my protection, and I'm just gonna

887
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:36.920
<v Speaker 2>believe that you're gonna protect me. Sorry that nobody has

888
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:39.599
<v Speaker 2>ever said that. That's a really good idea. And in

889
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:42.880
<v Speaker 2>the countries that have done very similar things, everything has

890
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:45.280
<v Speaker 2>gone tits up. Look at Australia, look at England, look

891
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:47.599
<v Speaker 2>at half of Europe where they don't allow guns, and

892
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:49.960
<v Speaker 2>look at how their people are responding to threats that

893
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:53.920
<v Speaker 2>inevitably will come. That's it's going to happen, regardless of

894
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:57.599
<v Speaker 2>what you believe or whatever. Whether it's immigrants, whether it's

895
00:46:57.679 --> 00:46:59.920
<v Speaker 2>one bad actor who loses mind one day and goes,

896
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:02.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm a stabbing spree, whatever the case is. All of

897
00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:05.360
<v Speaker 2>these countries or they don't have weapons to protect themselves,

898
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:08.920
<v Speaker 2>are not doing well. The only nations that are systemically

899
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:12.639
<v Speaker 2>doing really decently are those that can protect themselves. So

900
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:14.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying the two are necessarily connected, but I'm

901
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:16.639
<v Speaker 2>also showing that there is a connection.

902
00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. I guess I'm just more hopeful,

903
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:27.079
<v Speaker 1>more optimistic, more seeing the writing on the wall. That

904
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:29.800
<v Speaker 1>in not saying that you're not I'm just saying, you know,

905
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:32.800
<v Speaker 1>we see it through different perspectives. That's totally fine. But

906
00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:35.719
<v Speaker 1>all right, let's get to the actual story here of

907
00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Valiant Thor. And I guess the reason why I'm so

908
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:42.239
<v Speaker 1>motivated to even have that kind of conversation is because

909
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm inclined to believe that even if this Valiant Thor

910
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:49.920
<v Speaker 1>thing never happened, some suggest it was just a story.

911
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:52.960
<v Speaker 1>It's not real. It's a fictionalized story, even though it

912
00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:57.559
<v Speaker 1>is listed as nonfiction, and I'm inclined to believe that

913
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:02.159
<v Speaker 1>something like this would be possible. So that being said,

914
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:05.239
<v Speaker 1>let's get to it. On March sixteenth of nineteen fifty seven,

915
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:09.880
<v Speaker 1>just outside of Alexandria, Virginia, a Strange Craft allegedly descended

916
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:15.880
<v Speaker 1>this was no chaotic UFO crash, nor just a regular flyby.

917
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:19.280
<v Speaker 1>It was a controlled landing from this ship's step day

918
00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:23.480
<v Speaker 1>being who called himself Valiant Thor. According to Frank Stranger's

919
00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:26.880
<v Speaker 1>who is the one that wrote the book called Strangers

920
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:29.639
<v Speaker 1>at the Pentagon, which we have the book, maybe we'll

921
00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:32.519
<v Speaker 1>do a whole episode on that one day. It's not

922
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:35.400
<v Speaker 1>very long. It's like it's one hundred and twenty seven pages,

923
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:37.519
<v Speaker 1>but there's like a lot of pictures and you know,

924
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:41.119
<v Speaker 1>so it's really like one hundred pages. But he's the

925
00:48:41.159 --> 00:48:44.239
<v Speaker 1>guy that was really the one that was, you know,

926
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:47.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of bring about the story of Valiant Thor so

927
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:53.199
<v Speaker 1>Frank Strangers. According to him, Thor's first move wasn't secrecy

928
00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:56.679
<v Speaker 1>or aggression. Instead, he walked with confidence, requesting an audience

929
00:48:56.719 --> 00:48:59.840
<v Speaker 1>with President Eisenhower. Unlike the Grays, who slipped into the

930
00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:04.239
<v Speaker 1>show to cut covert deals, Thor entered with openness. Military

931
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:07.000
<v Speaker 1>officers were stunned, not just by the fact of his arrival,

932
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:11.440
<v Speaker 1>but by his appearance. He was not monstrous, not otherworldly grotesque.

933
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:14.639
<v Speaker 1>He looked human, so human, in fact, that some believe

934
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:17.840
<v Speaker 1>that he could have walked unnoticed through the streets of Washington,

935
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:21.480
<v Speaker 1>d C. That night marked the beginning of a saga

936
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:25.559
<v Speaker 1>that would carry Thor directly into the Pentagon's inner sanctum. So,

937
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:31.000
<v Speaker 1>who is this valianhor They say that he's from Venus. Okay,

938
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:35.360
<v Speaker 1>gets kind of crazy. Scientists will say Venus is uninhabitable,

939
00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:38.159
<v Speaker 1>the land is too crazy. I get where you would

940
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:42.920
<v Speaker 1>say that. However, Valienthori said that he lived inside of Venus,

941
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:48.360
<v Speaker 1>inner Earth or inner Venus, not inner Earth. So valienthor

942
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:52.320
<v Speaker 1>wasn't just another contact detail. His description set him apart.

943
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Standing about six feet tall with wavy brown hair and

944
00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:59.480
<v Speaker 1>piercing eyes, he radiated calm intelligence. His hands were flawless,

945
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:03.559
<v Speaker 1>no finger prints. His mind, strangest claimed, operated at an

946
00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:07.599
<v Speaker 1>IQ level of above twelve hundred. Thor could speak every

947
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:11.440
<v Speaker 1>language on Earth, and he communicated telepathically when he wished.

948
00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:16.519
<v Speaker 1>He identified his origin as Venus. To skeptics, Venus was inhospitable,

949
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:20.679
<v Speaker 1>its atmosphere a crucible of pressure and heat. But two

950
00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:26.159
<v Speaker 1>believers Venusian might have meant something else, a higher dimensional origin,

951
00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:29.320
<v Speaker 1>a realm aligned with the symbolic meaning of Venus, which

952
00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:32.480
<v Speaker 1>would be love, harmony, and beauty. Thor did not come alone.

953
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:36.440
<v Speaker 1>His ship, called Victor One, hovered in Earth's skies create

954
00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:41.039
<v Speaker 1>a crewed by his companions named Don, Jill and Tania.

955
00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Together they represented a delegation of peace. So and we're

956
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:47.199
<v Speaker 1>gonna get way more. This is kind of the spark

957
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:52.320
<v Speaker 1>notes because this is so deep, dude, Like, I've become

958
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:55.119
<v Speaker 1>obsessed with this Valiant Thor thing. And by the way,

959
00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:58.599
<v Speaker 1>since I mentioned it in the previous episode, Nick was like, Hey,

960
00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:01.519
<v Speaker 1>do you guys shoot the Valiant Thor episode yet? Electro

961
00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:03.199
<v Speaker 1>Nick and I was like, no, we're actually shooting it

962
00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:05.280
<v Speaker 1>this morning. He goes, bet, all right, I'm gonna send

963
00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:07.039
<v Speaker 1>you this. And so we have another thing that we're

964
00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:09.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna read a little bit later to from Cab, which

965
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:13.400
<v Speaker 1>is the Pleadian kind of guy. But I'm not saying that,

966
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:15.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, take with that what you will. I just

967
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:17.280
<v Speaker 1>wanted to throw it out there since we're getting we sure.

968
00:51:18.079 --> 00:51:21.800
<v Speaker 1>So there were the Pentagon years, so instead of being

969
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:26.519
<v Speaker 1>detained or dissected, Thor was granted a kind of strange respect.

970
00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Strangers claimed that Thor was ushered into the Pentagon and

971
00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:33.760
<v Speaker 1>given a special clearance. He wasn't a guest, he wasn't

972
00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:36.599
<v Speaker 1>a fleeting guest. He stayed not for a day, not

973
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:39.360
<v Speaker 1>for a week, but he stayed in the Pentagon for

974
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:44.000
<v Speaker 1>nearly three years, from nineteen fifty seven to nineteen sixty.

975
00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:48.400
<v Speaker 1>During that time, Thor supposedly held private meetings with President Eisenhower,

976
00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Vice President Richard Nixon, and key Pentagon officials. His presidence

977
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:56.360
<v Speaker 1>became a quiet, unspoken fact within certain corridors of power.

978
00:51:56.639 --> 00:51:59.800
<v Speaker 1>To those who encountered him, Thor projected a sense of serenity,

979
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:04.159
<v Speaker 1>aura that suggested not conquest but compassion. Yet his mission

980
00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:07.480
<v Speaker 1>carried urgency. He had not come merely to observe. He

981
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:10.920
<v Speaker 1>had come to offer something humanity had never been given before.

982
00:52:11.599 --> 00:52:15.039
<v Speaker 1>So this is where the two stories may conflate. You know,

983
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:19.199
<v Speaker 1>was it Nordic's in the beginning that offered the peace

984
00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:22.400
<v Speaker 1>and the happiness and all that and all that stuff

985
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:25.760
<v Speaker 1>that eventually got turned down. Could it have been Valley

986
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:29.920
<v Speaker 1>in Thor, the same exact story but a different name.

987
00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Some people disagree. Some people say no, these are two

988
00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:37.280
<v Speaker 1>separate events. Some people say it's the same exact thing. So,

989
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:39.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, take what we're gonna try and get to

990
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:43.400
<v Speaker 1>the bottom of that. But it's not accepted one way

991
00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:46.559
<v Speaker 1>or another that these that the valiant Thor was the

992
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Nordic that originally offered peace, or if this was a

993
00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:53.039
<v Speaker 1>separate story, so just want to throw that out there. However,

994
00:52:53.320 --> 00:52:57.119
<v Speaker 1>Thor's message was clear, lay down your nuclear arms, and

995
00:52:57.159 --> 00:53:00.400
<v Speaker 1>this is why people would conflate the two because both

996
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:06.039
<v Speaker 1>messages said basically the same thing, right, So Valiant Thor,

997
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:10.079
<v Speaker 1>some people just say val Thor that his message was clear,

998
00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:13.000
<v Speaker 1>lay down your nuclear arms. The arms race, he warned,

999
00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:17.079
<v Speaker 1>threatened not just humanity, but the stability of realms beyond

1000
00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:21.719
<v Speaker 1>nuclear war would echo across dimensions, disrupting cosmic balance. In

1001
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:25.360
<v Speaker 1>exchange for peace, Thor promised treasures that no human government

1002
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:30.599
<v Speaker 1>had ever conceived, technology to cure disease, extend life, and

1003
00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:34.599
<v Speaker 1>eliminate poverty. He spoke of guiding humanity into an age

1004
00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:38.679
<v Speaker 1>of unity, spiritual growth, and harmony with the cosmos. Unlike

1005
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the Grays who asked for bodies and blood, Thor offered healing.

1006
00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Unlike the greata Treaty, which bound humanity the secrecy and

1007
00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:50.679
<v Speaker 1>manipula and manipulation, Thor proposed open salvation. His words carried

1008
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:54.719
<v Speaker 1>both scientific authority and spiritual resonance. He was, in effect

1009
00:53:54.800 --> 00:53:58.360
<v Speaker 1>a cosmic prophet, so to say, but prophets rarely find

1010
00:53:58.440 --> 00:54:03.679
<v Speaker 1>welcome in the hall built on power. Very true, sounds

1011
00:54:03.679 --> 00:54:06.079
<v Speaker 1>about right. So then, of course there was the rejection

1012
00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Eisenhower himself. According to by the way that Frank Strangers

1013
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:16.440
<v Speaker 1>his name is doctor Frank Strangers, doctor Strange, and he's

1014
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:19.559
<v Speaker 1>talking Stranges though I know, but think about it like

1015
00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:22.679
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of funny. His name is doctor Strange's and

1016
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:26.400
<v Speaker 1>he's talking about a being called Thor, you know what

1017
00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So it gets a little marvelly up in here.

1018
00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:31.360
<v Speaker 3>I feel that do we know what his doctorate is in?

1019
00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. We might, we might come across that.

1020
00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:38.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna look into it. Doctor Frank Strangers.

1021
00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:43.679
<v Speaker 1>Strangers, yes, plural, all right. So Eisenhower himself, according to Strangers,

1022
00:54:43.719 --> 00:54:46.880
<v Speaker 1>was intrigued. The President knew the dangers of the nuclear age,

1023
00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:50.320
<v Speaker 1>but within the Pentagon, voices grew louder against Thors's proposal.

1024
00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Disarmament would cripple America's military edge, peace would gut the

1025
00:54:55.320 --> 00:55:00.000
<v Speaker 1>economy of war, pharmaceutical giants would collapse if diseases were eradicated,

1026
00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:03.920
<v Speaker 1>and in short, the world order as it was would

1027
00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:08.280
<v Speaker 1>dissolve the military industrial complex, a phrase Eisenhower himself would

1028
00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:11.679
<v Speaker 1>later warn about could not allow such a bargain, so

1029
00:55:11.719 --> 00:55:15.920
<v Speaker 1>the offer was declined. Humanity rejected Venus. Instead, it clung

1030
00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:19.039
<v Speaker 1>to the shadow deals of the greata Treaty. Thor Salvation

1031
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:23.159
<v Speaker 1>was brushed aside, not because it lacked merit, but because

1032
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:26.880
<v Speaker 1>it threatened those who profited from war, sickness and fear.

1033
00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:31.280
<v Speaker 3>Wow, I mean, all right, did.

1034
00:55:31.159 --> 00:55:32.400
<v Speaker 1>You find out what his doctorate was in?

1035
00:55:33.079 --> 00:55:36.480
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm looking into him now. Virtually nothing is known

1036
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:39.039
<v Speaker 2>about Stranger's childhood and youth. As a teenager, he was

1037
00:55:39.079 --> 00:55:41.800
<v Speaker 2>allegedly the victim of a kidnapping and robbery, during which

1038
00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:45.119
<v Speaker 2>he was allegedly shot, and then next thing you know,

1039
00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:48.920
<v Speaker 2>he pops on the scene. In the seventh International World

1040
00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Congress of UFO Researchers, which took place.

1041
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:54.199
<v Speaker 3>In Mainz, Germany, in November.

1042
00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Nineteen sixty seven, at which Strangers spoke alongside Hermann Oberth

1043
00:55:58.519 --> 00:56:02.599
<v Speaker 2>and Eric von Danik And among others. He hailed doctorates

1044
00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:06.000
<v Speaker 2>in theology and psychology from Florida State University and a

1045
00:56:06.079 --> 00:56:10.159
<v Speaker 2>doctorate in criminology from the National Institute of Criminology in Washington.

1046
00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:15.440
<v Speaker 2>He also studied theological seminaries in Macau and Hong Kong.

1047
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:18.519
<v Speaker 1>Interesting that he would have a doctorate in theology.

1048
00:56:19.480 --> 00:56:21.639
<v Speaker 2>In nineteen sixty four, he was awarded the title of

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<v Speaker 2>Honorary Public Prosecutor of the State of Louisiana, oh. He

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<v Speaker 2>was the president of the Worldwide Pastors Association International Evangelicism Crusade, Inc.

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<v Speaker 2>And the director of the National Investigations Committee on Unidentified

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<v Speaker 2>Flying Objects, which he founded in July nineteen sixty seven

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<v Speaker 2>and which still exists today as of twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>in Chatsworth, Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 7>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>He was also a sixty seven. He was an honorary

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00:56:51.840 --> 00:56:55.239
<v Speaker 2>member of the German UFO IFO Studies Society, which has

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00:56:55.320 --> 00:56:59.559
<v Speaker 2>been founded in nineteen fifty nine by painter and publisher

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00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:05.679
<v Speaker 2>Karl Velt in Wi Wisebaden, and also hosted mains conference. Okay,

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00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:08.960
<v Speaker 2>so has no, he's not a scrub, but he has

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00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:13.719
<v Speaker 2>doctorates in theology, psychology and then went to do seminary work.

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00:57:13.800 --> 00:57:15.559
<v Speaker 3>He is a doctor in criminology.

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00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:20.800
<v Speaker 2>He got a public prosecutor in the Stale Louisiana, and so.

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00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:22.920
<v Speaker 3>Basically nothing is known about his early life.

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00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:25.480
<v Speaker 2>But then when he does pop on the scene, you

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00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:28.199
<v Speaker 2>know he's at a UFO conference and has all these

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00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:29.719
<v Speaker 2>credentials from all these colleges.

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<v Speaker 1>Just saying he's not crackhead bill on the streets of

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00:57:32.960 --> 00:57:35.639
<v Speaker 1>New Orleans. No, no, no, not by any means, not

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00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:39.360
<v Speaker 1>from what I could tell anyone so yeah, So then

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00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:43.039
<v Speaker 1>there was a departure. So Thor didn't rage, nor did

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00:57:43.039 --> 00:57:46.119
<v Speaker 1>he retaliate. For three years, he lingered in the Pentagon,

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00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:50.320
<v Speaker 1>working quietly, meeting with leaders, holding space for his mission. Finally,

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00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:53.639
<v Speaker 1>in March of nineteen sixty, Thor departed. He returned to

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00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:58.039
<v Speaker 1>Victor on his ship stationed nearby. According to Strangers, Thor

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00:57:58.159 --> 00:58:02.119
<v Speaker 1>and his crew never truly left left. They remain orbiting Earth,

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00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:05.159
<v Speaker 1>watching humanity struggle, waiting for the day when we might

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00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:09.480
<v Speaker 1>accept their help. Pants This paints Thor not as a

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00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:13.400
<v Speaker 1>failed diplomat, but as a patient guardian. His departure was

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00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:17.079
<v Speaker 1>not abandonment. It was a retreat with hope. Humanity had

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00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:20.400
<v Speaker 1>chosen its path, but the offer of Venus still hovered above.

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00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:27.000
<v Speaker 1>So all right, so let's get into his legacy and symbolism.

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00:58:27.079 --> 00:58:30.360
<v Speaker 1>After Thor's departure, the story lived on through Stranger's ministry,

1084
00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:33.480
<v Speaker 1>his books, and UFO circles. To some, it was proof

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00:58:33.599 --> 00:58:37.960
<v Speaker 1>of suppressed salvation. To others, it was allegory Thor as

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00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:42.800
<v Speaker 1>a christ like figure rejected by those in power. Venus

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00:58:41.760 --> 00:58:46.679
<v Speaker 1>long the symbol of love, sent a messenger of harmony

1088
00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:51.360
<v Speaker 1>and humanity turned away in the larger tapestry of Ufo lore,

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00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Thor's story became a counterweight to the darker Greata Treaty,

1090
00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:58.679
<v Speaker 1>where the Grays were seen as cold manipulators. Thor represented

1091
00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:03.320
<v Speaker 1>cosmic compassion. Where Creata demanded secrecy and sacrifice, Thor offered

1092
00:59:03.320 --> 00:59:07.000
<v Speaker 1>abundance and healing. The symbolism is stark. Humanity stood at

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00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:09.800
<v Speaker 1>a crossroads in the nineteen fifty between fear and love

1094
00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:14.360
<v Speaker 1>and chose fear. So all right, So what if we

1095
00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:18.159
<v Speaker 1>said no to salvation? What if that really was what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>So the haunting question remained, what if we had accepted

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00:59:21.679 --> 00:59:24.199
<v Speaker 1>Thor's offer? Would we live in a world without war?

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00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:27.119
<v Speaker 1>Would disease and poverty be relics of the past. Would

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00:59:27.159 --> 00:59:31.840
<v Speaker 1>humanity have ascended into cosmic unity instead of technological enslavement.

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<v Speaker 1>The story of Valiant Thor is more than Ufo mythology.

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00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:39.079
<v Speaker 1>It is a mirror held up to humanity when salvation

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00:59:39.199 --> 00:59:41.880
<v Speaker 1>appeared not in a church but in a spaceship. Did

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00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:44.880
<v Speaker 1>we fail the test? Are we still paying the price today?

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00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:47.039
<v Speaker 1>Living in the shadow of a treaty that we accepted

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00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:50.920
<v Speaker 1>with the grace while rejecting the messenger of Venus? So

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00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:54.519
<v Speaker 1>there were two offers. There were two paths. The greata

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00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:57.639
<v Speaker 1>Treaty bound us to shadowy powers that fed on fear.

1108
00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:02.199
<v Speaker 1>Valiant Thor offered us light, healing, and peace. In the end,

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01:00:02.039 --> 01:00:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the Pentagon chose to graze. But the legend says that

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01:00:05.039 --> 01:00:07.639
<v Speaker 1>Thor never left that above us. On Victor one, he

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01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:11.400
<v Speaker 1>awaits watching, hoping, maybe even praying that one day we'll

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01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:14.440
<v Speaker 1>be ready to say yes. Until then, the question echoes

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01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:17.360
<v Speaker 1>across time and space. When the chance for salvation came

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01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:20.880
<v Speaker 1>not from the heavens of scripture, but from the stars themselves,

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01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:25.519
<v Speaker 1>why did we slam the door? Okay, so that is

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01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:28.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of the overarching thing. Just wanted to throw that

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01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:30.880
<v Speaker 1>out there. There is.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is also very remnant of the human condition, like

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01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:38.360
<v Speaker 2>we were talking about earlier, not just Jesus, but multiple

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote saviors have tried and every time they get

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01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:46.280
<v Speaker 2>shut down. I think that more aligns.

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01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:47.639
<v Speaker 3>With human nature than anything else.

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01:00:48.159 --> 01:00:56.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's progress towards evolution, I guess, or its

1124
01:00:56.199 --> 01:01:01.400
<v Speaker 1>lack of progress, right right, So anyway, all right, we're

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01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:03.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna get to I kind of want to just lay

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01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:05.679
<v Speaker 1>out the spark Notes version of the story. In that way,

1127
01:01:05.719 --> 01:01:08.400
<v Speaker 1>we have the whole story in our in our minds,

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01:01:08.519 --> 01:01:11.480
<v Speaker 1>so that we can kind of know where we're at

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01:01:11.480 --> 01:01:13.320
<v Speaker 1>in the story whenever we start getting down in the

1130
01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:14.599
<v Speaker 1>nitty gritty of the details.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that a picture of the Pentagon in the background?

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01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:18.519
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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01:01:18.599 --> 01:01:22.280
<v Speaker 2>They yeah, and AI am well of like a Pentagon.

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01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:24.320
<v Speaker 2>It's not, But anyway, I'm just curious. I saw the

1135
01:01:24.320 --> 01:01:25.960
<v Speaker 2>wall and I was like, I know one building that

1136
01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:28.000
<v Speaker 2>looks like that that I've seen a million fucking times.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know if it's AI or not. It

1138
01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:32.039
<v Speaker 1>kind of well, it might be it is, but the

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01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:34.320
<v Speaker 1>trees and the lights down here, the windows look kind

1140
01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:37.599
<v Speaker 1>of real. I don't know, it could be. So anyway,

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01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:40.480
<v Speaker 1>our first article is going to be coming from above

1142
01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:43.519
<v Speaker 1>the normnews dot com, so shout out to them. This

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01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:45.960
<v Speaker 1>was an article written in June twenty six, twenty twenty four,

1144
01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:49.639
<v Speaker 1>and it's titled Valiant thor the Venusian at the Heart

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01:01:49.760 --> 01:01:53.400
<v Speaker 1>of the Pentagon. So in March of nineteen fifty seven,

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01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:56.760
<v Speaker 1>the surprising event took place near Alexandria, Virginia. Two local

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01:01:56.760 --> 01:02:00.159
<v Speaker 1>police officers stumbled upon a landed spacecraft unlike anything that

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01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:03.840
<v Speaker 1>they had ever seen. Inside was a being named Valiant Thor. Thor,

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01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:06.239
<v Speaker 1>who claimed to come from Venus, was promptly taken to

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01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:10.239
<v Speaker 1>the Pentagon under heavy security. This marked the beginning of

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01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:12.519
<v Speaker 1>one of the most intriguing episodes in the history of

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01:02:12.559 --> 01:02:17.119
<v Speaker 1>extraterrestrial encounters. Valiant Thor's appearance and demeanor were strikingly human,

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01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:20.400
<v Speaker 1>but his knowledge and technology were far beyond Earth's capabilities.

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01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:23.760
<v Speaker 1>His initial meeting with President Eisenhower and Vice President Nixon

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01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:26.920
<v Speaker 1>was set against a backdrop of Cold War tensions and

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01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:31.840
<v Speaker 1>nuclear fears. Thor's mission was straightforward to offer guidance in

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01:02:31.880 --> 01:02:36.000
<v Speaker 1>advanced technology to help humanity avoid self destruction, particularly through

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01:02:36.199 --> 01:02:39.760
<v Speaker 1>nuclear war. His warnings were stark, but his solutions carried

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01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:42.440
<v Speaker 1>a message of hope, envisioning a future where peace and

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01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:46.840
<v Speaker 1>scientific progress could elevate humanity. The first encounters with Thor

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01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:50.480
<v Speaker 1>were filled with cautious curiosity. The Pentagon, a stronghold of

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01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:54.679
<v Speaker 1>earthly power, found it challenging to reconcile Thor's otherworldly claims

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01:02:54.760 --> 01:02:58.719
<v Speaker 1>with his human like appearance. His proposals, while intriguing, were

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01:02:58.760 --> 01:03:02.280
<v Speaker 1>seen as potential threats to establish to the established order.

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01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:07.079
<v Speaker 1>The economic and societal disruptions they might cause were deemed

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01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:12.199
<v Speaker 1>too risky. Yet Thor remained steadfast, continuing his mission within

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01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:17.079
<v Speaker 1>the Pentagon's secure environment. Thor's abilities were nothing short of extraordinary.

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01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:21.880
<v Speaker 1>His uniform, for instance, was indestructible, resistant to bullets, acid,

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01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and even high velocity drills.

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01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:25.719
<v Speaker 3>How do we know that?

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01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Did they try shooting him and throwing acid on him?

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01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean he was in the Pentagon for three years allegedly,

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01:03:31.840 --> 01:03:33.960
<v Speaker 1>so like he just allowed them to like, yeah, sure,

1174
01:03:34.039 --> 01:03:36.559
<v Speaker 1>try me out. Or were they like initially like, all right,

1175
01:03:36.599 --> 01:03:37.880
<v Speaker 1>fuck this, we got to kill this guy.

1176
01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:40.119
<v Speaker 2>And they were like, huh so he's unkillable. I guess

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01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:41.480
<v Speaker 2>we were forced to listen to him.

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01:03:41.519 --> 01:03:41.719
<v Speaker 9>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just curious how they've discovered these things.

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01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:47.519
<v Speaker 1>It maybe both, you know. Maybe they were like, let's

1181
01:03:47.559 --> 01:03:50.159
<v Speaker 1>kill this fucking guy, and he was like try it.

1182
01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:54.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can try, you know. But it was

1183
01:03:54.800 --> 01:03:58.719
<v Speaker 1>his ability to teleport and manipulate perceptions that truly set

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01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:01.719
<v Speaker 1>him apart. Thor could and moved through the Pentagon unnoticed,

1185
01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:05.119
<v Speaker 1>rendering himself invisible to those around him. This skill allowed

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01:04:05.159 --> 01:04:08.239
<v Speaker 1>him to navigate the corridors of power with ease, maintaining

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01:04:08.320 --> 01:04:11.440
<v Speaker 1>the confidentiality necessary for his mission. One of the most

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01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:15.639
<v Speaker 1>astonishing aspects of Thor's technology was his communication devices. These

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01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:20.599
<v Speaker 1>included holographic projectors capable of creating lifelike images. Imagine pressing

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01:04:20.679 --> 01:04:23.599
<v Speaker 1>a button and watching a wall transform into a transparent

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01:04:23.679 --> 01:04:27.719
<v Speaker 1>screen revealing a scene outside the Pentagon. The simplicity and

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01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:32.000
<v Speaker 1>sophistication of his technology left those who witnessed it in awe.

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01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:36.039
<v Speaker 1>Despite Thor's technological marvels and his urgent message, his efforts

1194
01:04:36.079 --> 01:04:41.119
<v Speaker 1>were continually thwarted by the entrenched interest of Earth's power structures.

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01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Military and political leaders were more concerned with maintaining their

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01:04:44.280 --> 01:04:48.119
<v Speaker 1>grip on power than embracing the transformative changes that Thor proposed.

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01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:53.800
<v Speaker 1>His warnings about nuclear weapons and offers of advanced knowledge

1198
01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:59.119
<v Speaker 1>were met with polite skepticism and ultimately dismissed. The potential

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01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:02.039
<v Speaker 1>for societal upear and economic disruption was too great of

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01:05:02.079 --> 01:05:06.320
<v Speaker 1>a risk. Thor's frustration grew as he observed humanity's reluctance

1201
01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:10.400
<v Speaker 1>to change his mission while noble faced formidable obstacles. He

1202
01:05:10.480 --> 01:05:14.320
<v Speaker 1>sought to initiate a new era of peace and technological advancement,

1203
01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:19.360
<v Speaker 1>but the inertia of established power structures proved too strong. Nevertheless,

1204
01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:22.519
<v Speaker 1>Thor remained committed working through indirect channels and seeking out

1205
01:05:22.559 --> 01:05:26.559
<v Speaker 1>individuals who were receptive to his message. One such individual

1206
01:05:26.679 --> 01:05:31.280
<v Speaker 1>was doctor Frank E. Strange's, a minister and UFO investigator.

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01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:34.199
<v Speaker 1>Strangers first met Thor at the Pentagon, where he was

1208
01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:37.960
<v Speaker 1>struck by Thorp's piercing gaze and calm authority. Over the years,

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01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Strangers became an important figure in documenting Thor's mission and

1210
01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:45.199
<v Speaker 1>sharing his experience with the world. Through their conversations, Thor

1211
01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:48.559
<v Speaker 1>revealed more about his home planet, Venus and his views

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01:05:48.599 --> 01:05:52.960
<v Speaker 1>on Earth's future. Thor's descriptions of Venus were captivating. He

1213
01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:57.679
<v Speaker 1>spoke of a planet where technology and spirituality coexisted in harmony,

1214
01:05:57.920 --> 01:06:02.119
<v Speaker 1>where peace and enlightenment were the norm. Venusian society, according

1215
01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:05.320
<v Speaker 1>to Thor, had long ago transcended the petty conflicts and

1216
01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:08.360
<v Speaker 1>destructive tendencies that plagued Earth. They had no need for

1217
01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:11.559
<v Speaker 1>weapons of mass destruction, and their technology was used to

1218
01:06:11.639 --> 01:06:14.960
<v Speaker 1>improve the quality of life for all. Thor's mission on

1219
01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Earth was clear, to help humanity avoid the same pitfalls

1220
01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:21.039
<v Speaker 1>that his people had overcome. He emphasized the importance of

1221
01:06:21.119 --> 01:06:25.519
<v Speaker 1>spiritual growth alongside technological progress. Thor spoke of a higher power,

1222
01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:29.159
<v Speaker 1>a force guiding the universe towards balance and harmony. He

1223
01:06:29.239 --> 01:06:33.119
<v Speaker 1>referenced historical and spiritual figures, suggesting that many of Earth's

1224
01:06:33.119 --> 01:06:36.440
<v Speaker 1>great teachers had also been guided by this higher force.

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01:06:36.960 --> 01:06:40.480
<v Speaker 1>As Thor's time on Earth continued, he faced numerous challenges

1226
01:06:40.519 --> 01:06:43.320
<v Speaker 1>and dangers. His message was not always welcomed, and there

1227
01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:46.440
<v Speaker 1>was always those who saw him as a threat. Despite this,

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01:06:46.559 --> 01:06:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Thor remained resolute. He continued to share his knowledge and

1229
01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:52.880
<v Speaker 1>technology with those who would listen, hoping to plant the

1230
01:06:52.880 --> 01:06:57.639
<v Speaker 1>seeds of change. In one particular dramatic incident, Thor narrowly

1231
01:06:57.760 --> 01:07:01.440
<v Speaker 1>escaped a poisoning attempt during a conference. He was approached

1232
01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:03.840
<v Speaker 1>by two men posing as journalists, who offered him a

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01:07:03.920 --> 01:07:07.880
<v Speaker 1>drink laced with a deadly substance. Fortunately, Thor detected the

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01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:10.840
<v Speaker 1>poison in time and was able to avoid harm. This

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01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:14.800
<v Speaker 1>event underscored the risks faced by those who challenged the

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01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:18.119
<v Speaker 1>status quo and sought to introduce radical new ideas. So

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01:07:18.280 --> 01:07:22.000
<v Speaker 1>throughout these trials, Thor's message remained consistent. He urged humanity

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01:07:22.039 --> 01:07:24.719
<v Speaker 1>to embrace peace and unity, to look beyond their immediate

1239
01:07:24.760 --> 01:07:28.400
<v Speaker 1>concerns and consider broader implications of their actions. Thor believed

1240
01:07:28.400 --> 01:07:31.320
<v Speaker 1>that with the right guidance, humanity could achieve great things

1241
01:07:31.320 --> 01:07:36.400
<v Speaker 1>and take its place among the advanced civilizations of the cosmos.

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01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:39.559
<v Speaker 1>As Thor's mission neared its end, he prepared for the

1243
01:07:39.599 --> 01:07:42.880
<v Speaker 1>departure from Earth in March of nineteen sixty. He left

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01:07:42.880 --> 01:07:46.760
<v Speaker 1>behind a network of individuals dedicated to his cause. These people,

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01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:50.719
<v Speaker 1>many of whom remain non anonymous, continue to work quietly

1246
01:07:50.760 --> 01:07:55.000
<v Speaker 1>spreading Thor's message and applying the shared knowledge that he shared. Rather,

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01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:59.039
<v Speaker 1>they operate in various fields, from science and technology to

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01:07:59.119 --> 01:08:03.000
<v Speaker 1>spirituality and education, all working towards a fusion of future

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01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:05.840
<v Speaker 1>in vision by Thor. The story of Valiant Valiant Thor

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01:08:05.960 --> 01:08:09.320
<v Speaker 1>is a fascinating chapter in the history of extraterrestrial encounters.

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<v Speaker 1>It challenges us to rethink our place in the universe

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01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:17.239
<v Speaker 1>and the potential paths our civilization can take. Thor's narrative

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<v Speaker 1>offers a glimpse into a world where beings from another

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<v Speaker 1>from other planets walk among us, sharing their wisdom and

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01:08:23.960 --> 01:08:27.159
<v Speaker 1>technology to guide humanity toward a brighter future. Valian Thor's

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01:08:27.159 --> 01:08:31.680
<v Speaker 1>mission was an urgent appeal for change. It encouraged humanity

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<v Speaker 1>to look beyond immediate concerns and consider the broader implications

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01:08:35.119 --> 01:08:37.640
<v Speaker 1>of its actions. It was a call for peace and progress,

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<v Speaker 1>emphasizing that technological and spiritual advancement must go hand in hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Through Thor's experiences, we see a world filled with potential,

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<v Speaker 1>tempered by the challenges and resistance of those reluctant to change.

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<v Speaker 1>Valiant Thor's story continues to inspire curiosity and debate. It

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<v Speaker 1>stands as a testament on to the ongoing quest for

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<v Speaker 1>understanding and the belief that humanity is cape of achieving

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<v Speaker 1>great things if it remains open to new ideas and possibilities.

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<v Speaker 1>His legacy serves as a powerful reminder of the potential

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<v Speaker 1>for human transformation and the importance of maintaining an open mind,

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<v Speaker 1>and as his jour journey comes to a close, we

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01:09:14.560 --> 01:09:16.960
<v Speaker 1>are left with a sense of wonder and possibility. His

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01:09:17.079 --> 01:09:20.079
<v Speaker 1>story is not just about the extraterrestrial encounter, but an

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<v Speaker 1>exploration of humanity's placed in the universe. It challenges challenges

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<v Speaker 1>us to look beyond the ordinary and embrace the extraordinary,

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01:09:27.319 --> 01:09:29.239
<v Speaker 1>to seek out new knowledge, and to strive for a

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01:09:29.279 --> 01:09:32.840
<v Speaker 1>future where peace and progress are attainable for all. So

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to the above the norm news. I thought

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01:09:35.840 --> 01:09:38.439
<v Speaker 1>that was a pretty cool article. It's you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get too detailed. We're going to get to the

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<v Speaker 1>more detailed stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But h no, there's gonna be people that are like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>where is the source? How do we know that he

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<v Speaker 2>was in there for this long?

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<v Speaker 3>Listen? Listen?

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01:09:49.479 --> 01:09:53.479
<v Speaker 2>It all goes into the conversation, right, it's all pieces

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01:09:53.479 --> 01:09:55.199
<v Speaker 2>of the puzzle that are being fit together.

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01:09:56.039 --> 01:09:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just saying well, and that's the That's the thing

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01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:03.399
<v Speaker 1>is that it's real, only documented by Frank Strangers into

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01:10:03.399 --> 01:10:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Strangers at the Pentagon book, right, which I believe was

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01:10:06.680 --> 01:10:10.520
<v Speaker 1>written in sixty seven, but it's talking about what happened

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01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:14.640
<v Speaker 1>in fifty seven, so you kind of, I don't know,

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01:10:14.680 --> 01:10:16.399
<v Speaker 1>you kind of got to take it on his word

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01:10:16.600 --> 01:10:19.119
<v Speaker 1>more than anything else. But it does corroborate with other

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01:10:19.159 --> 01:10:23.199
<v Speaker 1>stories such as degreata treaty. So I thought, could we

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01:10:23.239 --> 01:10:25.840
<v Speaker 1>be talking about the same thing, and if not, was

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01:10:25.880 --> 01:10:29.640
<v Speaker 1>this a second chance at the same attempt to bring

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01:10:29.680 --> 01:10:32.840
<v Speaker 1>peace and prosperity? And we still turn down even the

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01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:34.680
<v Speaker 1>second one. And I imagine if we turned down a

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01:10:34.720 --> 01:10:39.039
<v Speaker 1>second one, we'd turned down the thousandth one, right, right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>and we do have a video of the man himself

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<v Speaker 1>speaking on it, which would be doctor Frank Strange's it's

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01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:48.119
<v Speaker 1>going to get a little wild. So I do have

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of more articles that I did want to

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01:10:50.039 --> 01:10:55.279
<v Speaker 1>get to. This would be the introduction of Valiant, or

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01:10:55.479 --> 01:10:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I just want to get to all right, here's where

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01:10:57.640 --> 01:11:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get to. Right here, we've had enough fluff, right,

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01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:03.239
<v Speaker 1>we're trying to get to the actual facts here. So

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01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:08.199
<v Speaker 1>this is from Discovery UK dot com. Of course there's

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01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:10.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a little bit of skepticism in there. You'd

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01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:13.079
<v Speaker 1>be an idiot not to be skeptical about this kind

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01:11:13.079 --> 01:11:15.640
<v Speaker 1>of thing, right for sure. I don't want to say

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01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:18.159
<v Speaker 1>an idiot, but just a little yeah.

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01:11:18.199 --> 01:11:20.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean to hear the story and just believe immediately,

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01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:23.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it's all real. Like no, You, as

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01:11:23.479 --> 01:11:25.880
<v Speaker 2>a logical person should at least have a few follow

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01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:27.960
<v Speaker 2>up questions after hearing stories like this.

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01:11:28.039 --> 01:11:29.319
<v Speaker 3>That's that's very normal.

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01:11:29.920 --> 01:11:33.079
<v Speaker 2>We ourselves have had quite a few follow up questions

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01:11:33.079 --> 01:11:34.000
<v Speaker 2>from the episode we.

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01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:35.199
<v Speaker 3>Did yesterday to this one.

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01:11:35.239 --> 01:11:35.399
<v Speaker 9>Now.

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01:11:35.479 --> 01:11:37.439
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's it's what we need.

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01:11:37.680 --> 01:11:40.560
<v Speaker 2>You shouldn't just accept whatever narrative, even if it's something

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01:11:40.560 --> 01:11:41.840
<v Speaker 2>that does fall in line with yours.

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01:11:41.840 --> 01:11:43.119
<v Speaker 3>You should question everything.

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01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, shout out to bo Diggles answer slave question everything.

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01:11:47.359 --> 01:11:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully you're out there doing good there, Bud. So this

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01:11:51.720 --> 01:11:54.800
<v Speaker 1>is from as I said, Discovery UK. The story the

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01:11:54.840 --> 01:11:59.279
<v Speaker 1>story of Valiant Thor, visitor from Venus. So let's get

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01:11:59.319 --> 01:12:05.039
<v Speaker 1>fucking weird. The legend of Venusian Thor has captivated the

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01:12:05.039 --> 01:12:09.199
<v Speaker 1>imaginations of upologists and alien enthusiasts since the late nineteen fifties.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the tale, Valiant Thor was a humanoid extraterrestrial

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01:12:12.680 --> 01:12:14.720
<v Speaker 1>from the planet Venus who arrived on Earth with a

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01:12:14.760 --> 01:12:18.279
<v Speaker 1>mission to share advanced technology, promote messages of peace, love

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01:12:18.319 --> 01:12:22.439
<v Speaker 1>and unity, and help humanity avoid self destruction. That does

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01:12:22.479 --> 01:12:24.239
<v Speaker 1>always seem to be the story?

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01:12:24.560 --> 01:12:25.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so.

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01:12:27.279 --> 01:12:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, I just doesn't.

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01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:31.880
<v Speaker 2>It's always seem to be the story, doesn't it. You know,

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01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:36.840
<v Speaker 2>to try salvation humanity and it's like, are they?

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01:12:38.119 --> 01:12:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I would have to imagine statistically that there

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01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:45.399
<v Speaker 1>are a group of aliens out there that would do that.

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01:12:47.039 --> 01:12:49.199
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a you ever seen Starship Trooper?

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01:12:49.920 --> 01:12:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, you remember that that part where uh, you know,

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01:12:54.039 --> 01:12:56.960
<v Speaker 2>on the alien planet of Clendathu or whatever the fuck

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01:12:57.000 --> 01:13:00.119
<v Speaker 2>it was called, they had a Mormon church that they

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01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:02.000
<v Speaker 2>found it out there because the Mormons are of that

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01:13:02.079 --> 01:13:03.960
<v Speaker 2>mission work, you know, and that's just what they do.

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01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:06.840
<v Speaker 2>And then he got overrun by aliens. That's like humans

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01:13:06.840 --> 01:13:08.880
<v Speaker 2>trying to go out there and teach these people the

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01:13:08.920 --> 01:13:11.680
<v Speaker 2>good word in the good way and all of that. Right, Yeah,

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01:13:11.720 --> 01:13:14.119
<v Speaker 2>I am sure that there is some sort of group

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01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:15.880
<v Speaker 2>of what we might call aliens that would come to

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01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:18.520
<v Speaker 2>Earth to try to spread the good Word, right, Okay,

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01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:22.520
<v Speaker 2>I get that. But with that being said, do the

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01:13:22.560 --> 01:13:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Mormons do that just out of the kindness of their

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01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:28.359
<v Speaker 2>heart or is there a bigger plan at foot? You know,

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01:13:29.159 --> 01:13:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I had that same skepticism towards any alien that like,

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01:13:32.039 --> 01:13:33.119
<v Speaker 2>we come in peace.

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01:13:33.159 --> 01:13:34.840
<v Speaker 3>It's like, but do you?

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01:13:35.960 --> 01:13:38.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you could really say the same about every

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01:13:38.159 --> 01:13:40.159
<v Speaker 1>religion that's always trying to prostolytize.

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01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:43.840
<v Speaker 2>But if they're proselytizing by saying we need your money,

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01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:46.159
<v Speaker 2>we need your time, we need your weapons, and then

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01:13:46.279 --> 01:13:48.520
<v Speaker 2>you'll be able to be a part of this click.

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01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:53.119
<v Speaker 1>It's like, hmm, I'm good if fucking Joel Ostein had

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01:13:53.199 --> 01:13:55.600
<v Speaker 1>enough money to buy a spacecraft, which I guarantee you

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01:13:55.640 --> 01:13:58.800
<v Speaker 1>he does, or at least pretty damn close to it,

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01:13:58.800 --> 01:14:01.239
<v Speaker 1>because that dude is making some cheese off of the

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01:14:01.239 --> 01:14:04.239
<v Speaker 1>good book. If that guy had enough money to be

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01:14:04.239 --> 01:14:06.359
<v Speaker 1>able to buy a spaceship, You trying to tell me

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01:14:06.439 --> 01:14:09.159
<v Speaker 1>that he wouldn't go to fucking Mars to try and

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01:14:09.239 --> 01:14:11.359
<v Speaker 1>prostlytize to the Martians.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think he would because they don't have

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01:14:14.399 --> 01:14:17.000
<v Speaker 2>what we would consider money. It's not profitable for him.

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<v Speaker 2>And he is a prosperity gospel preacher. All he preaches

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01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:23.439
<v Speaker 2>about is prosperity, and if they don't have any prosperity

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01:14:23.479 --> 01:14:25.039
<v Speaker 2>to give him, I just don't think he'd be worth

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01:14:25.079 --> 01:14:25.560
<v Speaker 2>his time.

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01:14:25.880 --> 01:14:26.359
<v Speaker 3>That's just me.

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01:14:26.680 --> 01:14:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe I don't know. So anyhow, we will get

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01:14:30.039 --> 01:14:33.159
<v Speaker 1>to it. So the primary and only source of this

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01:14:33.239 --> 01:14:36.520
<v Speaker 1>astonishing story is a book published in nineteen sixty seven

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01:14:36.600 --> 01:14:39.720
<v Speaker 1>called Stranger at the Pentagon by Frankie Strangers, a Christian

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01:14:39.800 --> 01:14:44.000
<v Speaker 1>evangelical minister, a ufologist, author, and founder of the National

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01:14:44.039 --> 01:14:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Investigations Committee on Unidentified Flying Objects. So, just who was

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01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:52.039
<v Speaker 1>valiantor an alien, an actor, an urban legend, or an

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01:14:52.039 --> 01:14:54.920
<v Speaker 1>elaborate hoax? Where is he alleged to have come from?

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01:14:54.960 --> 01:14:57.479
<v Speaker 1>Did he work with America's highest ranking government officials? And

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01:14:57.720 --> 01:15:02.039
<v Speaker 1>are the supposed photograph of him, real or fake, there

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01:15:02.079 --> 01:15:03.079
<v Speaker 1>are photographs of them.

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01:15:04.199 --> 01:15:04.479
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:08.079
<v Speaker 1>So let's take a trip back to the nineteen fifties

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01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:09.840
<v Speaker 1>in an attempt to shed light on one of the

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01:15:09.840 --> 01:15:12.960
<v Speaker 1>strangest stories in the Annals of UFO and alien folklore,

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01:15:13.159 --> 01:15:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the tale of Valiant Thor. According to a stranger at

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01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:20.279
<v Speaker 1>the Pentagon book, Valiant Thor, an alien from Venus described

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01:15:20.319 --> 01:15:27.479
<v Speaker 1>as an inhumanly, inhumanely handsome man. Damn inhumanely handsome. I

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01:15:27.479 --> 01:15:30.119
<v Speaker 1>wish somebody would say that about me. I just say,

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01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:36.680
<v Speaker 1>good God. The description suck is dick a little harder writer. Yeah, yeah, Anyway,

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01:15:36.840 --> 01:15:41.359
<v Speaker 1>the handsome man landed his spacecraft supposedly named Victory one

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01:15:41.479 --> 01:15:44.680
<v Speaker 1>or Victor one, near the town of Alexandria and Virginia,

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01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:48.000
<v Speaker 1>a city on the Potomac. Is it Potomac River?

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01:15:48.560 --> 01:15:51.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Potomac. That's when it runs through DC, a.

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01:15:51.039 --> 01:15:54.439
<v Speaker 1>Stone's throw from Washington, d C. One version of the

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01:15:54.479 --> 01:15:57.720
<v Speaker 1>story says that he, along with two traveling companions, were

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01:15:57.880 --> 01:16:00.640
<v Speaker 1>met by two policemen who escorted him to the Pentagon.

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01:16:00.920 --> 01:16:05.159
<v Speaker 1>Another says that he politely requested to speak to President

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01:16:05.239 --> 01:16:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Dwight Eisenhower. So why did Valiant Thor come to Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an artist impression of the surface of Venus.

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01:16:15.479 --> 01:16:17.279
<v Speaker 1>It's always an artist impression. And we got all these

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01:16:17.279 --> 01:16:19.560
<v Speaker 1>fucking satellites, we got all these rovers and everything. We

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01:16:19.600 --> 01:16:22.960
<v Speaker 1>always like, what is the point of putting cameras in

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01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:25.359
<v Speaker 1>space if we're always just going to get artist impressions.

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01:16:25.760 --> 01:16:28.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's of the surface, right, because right now we

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01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:31.079
<v Speaker 2>have like aerial view of the surface of Venus, but

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01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:33.439
<v Speaker 2>we don't have like a Venus rover. Right, we have

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01:16:33.479 --> 01:16:35.560
<v Speaker 2>a Mars rover, but we don't have a Venus rover.

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01:16:35.720 --> 01:16:36.720
<v Speaker 3>So it's like what.

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01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:38.920
<v Speaker 2>They believe the surface would look like if we did

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01:16:38.920 --> 01:16:39.680
<v Speaker 2>have a rover on.

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01:16:40.079 --> 01:16:40.880
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Look looks strangely like the supposed surface of Mars. Just

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01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:45.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna throw that out there.

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01:16:46.279 --> 01:16:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Devoid of life, devoid of atmosphere, a bunch of dust,

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01:16:48.840 --> 01:16:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you right.

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<v Speaker 1>Leaving aside for a moment, the perplexing story of Thor. Venus,

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01:16:55.520 --> 01:16:58.399
<v Speaker 1>somewhere between twenty five and one hundred and sixty one

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<v Speaker 1>million miles from Earth, depending on the orbital cycle, is

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01:17:01.039 --> 01:17:06.840
<v Speaker 1>absolutely and entirely inhospitable. The mean temperature is over four

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01:17:06.880 --> 01:17:10.399
<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty degrees celsius, which is approaching nine hundred

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01:17:10.399 --> 01:17:13.640
<v Speaker 1>degrees fahrenheit, pretty fucking height, which is why we don't

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01:17:13.640 --> 01:17:16.720
<v Speaker 1>have a rover on the surface. It would be torched

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01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:20.600
<v Speaker 1>and has the densest atmosphere of all the planets in

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01:17:20.640 --> 01:17:23.840
<v Speaker 1>the Solar System. The atmosphere is mostly carbon dioxide and

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01:17:23.880 --> 01:17:26.199
<v Speaker 1>the entire planet is covered in a thick cloud off

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01:17:26.199 --> 01:17:30.760
<v Speaker 1>sulfuric acid. But as Strange's story goes, that's where Valiant

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01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:35.479
<v Speaker 1>Thor and his interstellar delegation came from. That Thor's purpose,

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01:17:35.520 --> 01:17:39.359
<v Speaker 1>as described by Strange Strangers who claim to have had

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01:17:39.439 --> 01:17:44.920
<v Speaker 1>direct content or contact rather with this visitor from another planet,

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01:17:45.199 --> 01:17:48.760
<v Speaker 1>was to offer advanced technical knowledge, to promote peace and

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01:17:48.800 --> 01:17:51.319
<v Speaker 1>a higher level of spiritual enlightenment, and to warn against

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01:17:51.319 --> 01:17:54.720
<v Speaker 1>the dangers of nuclear weapons, poverty, and environmental destruction. In

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01:17:54.800 --> 01:17:57.520
<v Speaker 1>the book, Thor claimed his race had been monitoring Earth

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01:17:57.920 --> 01:18:00.920
<v Speaker 1>for hundreds of years and had been and had become

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01:18:01.119 --> 01:18:04.159
<v Speaker 1>increasingly concerned with the state of the planet. Hence his visit.

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01:18:04.399 --> 01:18:06.840
<v Speaker 1>He said to have brought messages of hope, urging people

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01:18:06.840 --> 01:18:09.359
<v Speaker 1>to work together for the common good. He advocated for

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01:18:09.399 --> 01:18:12.039
<v Speaker 1>the move to clean energy sources, and is supposed to

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01:18:12.079 --> 01:18:15.920
<v Speaker 1>have brought with him advancements in medicine, transportation, and energy

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01:18:15.960 --> 01:18:20.279
<v Speaker 1>production production that were centuries ahead of nineteen fifty science.

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01:18:21.199 --> 01:18:25.960
<v Speaker 1>More specifically, Strangers wrote about Thor's composite energy device, which

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01:18:26.079 --> 01:18:29.520
<v Speaker 1>was a zero carbon source of producing electricity and a

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01:18:29.600 --> 01:18:32.640
<v Speaker 1>replicator which was said to be able to precisely replicate

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01:18:32.800 --> 01:18:36.800
<v Speaker 1>any material without the need for extraction or mining. Or

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01:18:36.840 --> 01:18:39.880
<v Speaker 1>did he did Valiant Thor, an alleged alien from another world,

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01:18:39.920 --> 01:18:42.720
<v Speaker 1>truly accomplish the feats described in the book, which is

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01:18:42.760 --> 01:18:45.720
<v Speaker 1>said to bury strong resemblance to the classic nineteen fifty

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01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:48.600
<v Speaker 1>one sci fi film The Day the Earth Stood Still?

1458
01:18:49.199 --> 01:18:52.239
<v Speaker 1>Or did he exist solely in the creative imagination of

1459
01:18:52.279 --> 01:18:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Frank Strangers. It's always weird how all these kind of

1460
01:18:58.640 --> 01:19:01.000
<v Speaker 1>this kind of lure always comes out around the same time.

1461
01:19:01.479 --> 01:19:03.880
<v Speaker 1>So you have to look at it with with the

1462
01:19:03.920 --> 01:19:05.640
<v Speaker 1>skeptical eye, which.

1463
01:19:05.439 --> 01:19:07.359
<v Speaker 3>I will say The Day of the Earth Stood Still, If.

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01:19:07.279 --> 01:19:09.760
<v Speaker 1>You look at the old black and white movie, it's awesome.

1465
01:19:10.039 --> 01:19:13.680
<v Speaker 1>The one with Keanu Reeves also awesome, right, And that's

1466
01:19:14.000 --> 01:19:15.600
<v Speaker 1>that is a very thought provoking movie.

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01:19:15.960 --> 01:19:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Right when he comes down, he meets at the world

1468
01:19:17.760 --> 01:19:19.760
<v Speaker 2>leaders and they're like, you know, well, what are you

1469
01:19:19.760 --> 01:19:24.479
<v Speaker 2>doing on our planet in his response your planet, Yeah,

1470
01:19:24.560 --> 01:19:26.960
<v Speaker 2>because he's coming here to do some impending doom, because

1471
01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:29.520
<v Speaker 2>he's seen how humans will absolutely tear this place apart

1472
01:19:29.520 --> 01:19:32.479
<v Speaker 2>if they're left unchecked. And it's it's an amazing movie.

1473
01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:35.039
<v Speaker 2>I personally think so. And it's not like I believe

1474
01:19:35.039 --> 01:19:36.800
<v Speaker 2>it to be a true statement by any means, but

1475
01:19:37.319 --> 01:19:40.119
<v Speaker 2>it's a very thought provoking piece of cinema.

1476
01:19:40.199 --> 01:19:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Sure, sure, but I would say that this is like,

1477
01:19:44.279 --> 01:19:47.199
<v Speaker 1>this story is like the Yend to the Yang of

1478
01:19:47.439 --> 01:19:51.239
<v Speaker 1>the the the movie version. Right, They're they're talking about

1479
01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:55.199
<v Speaker 1>kind of differing reasons why they're there.

1480
01:19:56.359 --> 01:19:58.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when the Day of the Earth, it's still the

1481
01:19:58.159 --> 01:19:59.079
<v Speaker 3>alien came to.

1482
01:20:00.520 --> 01:20:05.319
<v Speaker 2>Pretty much protect certain creatures, certain animals that are hard

1483
01:20:05.319 --> 01:20:08.199
<v Speaker 2>to replicate, but was also here to completely wipe out

1484
01:20:08.479 --> 01:20:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Sodom and Gomora style Noah's flood style, wipe out the

1485
01:20:11.520 --> 01:20:13.560
<v Speaker 2>rest of the Earth and hit the reset button.

1486
01:20:14.359 --> 01:20:18.800
<v Speaker 1>So the legend of Venusian Thor. There are suggestions in

1487
01:20:18.840 --> 01:20:22.720
<v Speaker 1>the popular narrative that official documentation and signed witness statements,

1488
01:20:22.760 --> 01:20:27.039
<v Speaker 1>including some from people described as high ranking government officials, exist,

1489
01:20:27.079 --> 01:20:30.119
<v Speaker 1>pertaining to Valiant Thor's visit, but as yet there have

1490
01:20:30.319 --> 01:20:33.079
<v Speaker 1>never been made public. They have never been made public

1491
01:20:33.199 --> 01:20:36.199
<v Speaker 1>or verified. The most commonly told version of the story

1492
01:20:36.279 --> 01:20:38.199
<v Speaker 1>was that Thor lived in the basement of the Pentagon

1493
01:20:38.239 --> 01:20:41.119
<v Speaker 1>for three years and took regular meetings with President Eisenhower,

1494
01:20:41.199 --> 01:20:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Vice President Nixon, and senior members of the armed forces.

1495
01:20:44.560 --> 01:20:47.560
<v Speaker 1>He's also alleged to have met with a number of

1496
01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:51.920
<v Speaker 1>scientists and religious leaders, appeared at the United Nations headquarters

1497
01:20:51.920 --> 01:20:54.199
<v Speaker 1>in New York City, and even attended a church in

1498
01:20:54.279 --> 01:20:57.399
<v Speaker 1>Alexandria where he preached messages of love and peace.

1499
01:20:58.880 --> 01:20:59.520
<v Speaker 3>That's interesting.

1500
01:21:00.359 --> 01:21:03.840
<v Speaker 1>There's also alleged to be one or more audio recordings,

1501
01:21:03.840 --> 01:21:06.880
<v Speaker 1>as well as a number of published photographs purporting to

1502
01:21:06.920 --> 01:21:10.039
<v Speaker 1>be of Valiant Thor, but without any concrete evidence to

1503
01:21:10.199 --> 01:21:13.279
<v Speaker 1>corroborate them. Indeed, the images are widely believed to be

1504
01:21:13.319 --> 01:21:15.960
<v Speaker 1>forgeries or simply those of normal men who had no

1505
01:21:16.039 --> 01:21:20.600
<v Speaker 1>idea the images were being misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial from Venus. Today,

1506
01:21:20.680 --> 01:21:24.760
<v Speaker 1>there's no substantive proof that Valiantor existed or had interactions

1507
01:21:24.800 --> 01:21:27.960
<v Speaker 1>with anyone at any level of the US government or elsewhere.

1508
01:21:28.359 --> 01:21:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Despite the lack of physical evidence, Valiant Thor from Venus

1509
01:21:31.359 --> 01:21:34.640
<v Speaker 1>has become an iconic figure within many UFO enthusiast communities.

1510
01:21:34.840 --> 01:21:37.079
<v Speaker 1>Supporters of the story argued that the secrecy of the

1511
01:21:37.079 --> 01:21:40.159
<v Speaker 1>government operations and the mysterious nature of his visit are

1512
01:21:40.199 --> 01:21:44.920
<v Speaker 1>consistent with other alleged extraterrestrial encounters. Skeptics, however, dismissed the

1513
01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:48.399
<v Speaker 1>tale as nothing more than a fantastical fabrication. The lack

1514
01:21:48.439 --> 01:21:52.000
<v Speaker 1>of any tangible proof, such as photographs or official documents,

1515
01:21:52.079 --> 01:21:57.479
<v Speaker 1>fuels ongoing debates about the authenticity of Stranger's claims. Of course,

1516
01:21:58.159 --> 01:22:01.800
<v Speaker 1>you gotta sort through these things, so, it says, Valian

1517
01:22:01.840 --> 01:22:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Thor's legend endors as a symbol of hope and cosmic benevolence,

1518
01:22:05.119 --> 01:22:08.439
<v Speaker 1>and indeed, many of these supposed image messages from outer

1519
01:22:08.520 --> 01:22:12.279
<v Speaker 1>space people coming together for the common good, transitioning to

1520
01:22:12.319 --> 01:22:16.359
<v Speaker 1>clean energy sources, promoting peace over hate, and environmental awareness

1521
01:22:16.520 --> 01:22:20.439
<v Speaker 1>resonate today. Despite the lack of evidence for the story,

1522
01:22:20.920 --> 01:22:24.079
<v Speaker 1>the narrative also aligns with the broader themes of extraterrestrial

1523
01:22:24.079 --> 01:22:27.119
<v Speaker 1>intelligence seeking to guide humanity towards a more enlightened and

1524
01:22:27.159 --> 01:22:31.279
<v Speaker 1>harmonious future. Overall, though despite being an intriguing story, the

1525
01:22:31.319 --> 01:22:35.000
<v Speaker 1>legend of Valiant Thor is currently unsupported by any credible evidence.

1526
01:22:35.239 --> 01:22:37.920
<v Speaker 1>It's widely regarded by most experts and researchers in the

1527
01:22:37.920 --> 01:22:41.439
<v Speaker 1>field of UFOs and alien visitations as either a complex

1528
01:22:41.479 --> 01:22:44.520
<v Speaker 1>hoax or a work of fiction. So, whether viewed as

1529
01:22:44.560 --> 01:22:48.000
<v Speaker 1>a genuine account or bizarre yet captivating myth, the story

1530
01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:51.119
<v Speaker 1>of Valiant Thor intrigues and inspires those who ponder the

1531
01:22:51.159 --> 01:22:56.399
<v Speaker 1>mysteries of the universe and possibly, however small, of other

1532
01:22:56.479 --> 01:23:01.239
<v Speaker 1>worldly visitors. So there is there's a conversation that I

1533
01:23:01.239 --> 01:23:04.960
<v Speaker 1>wanted to bring up here, and this is from the

1534
01:23:05.680 --> 01:23:11.000
<v Speaker 1>horse's mouth himself. Okay, doctor Strangers. Yeah, he's the one

1535
01:23:11.079 --> 01:23:12.960
<v Speaker 1>that wrote the book. I also, you know, and we

1536
01:23:13.039 --> 01:23:15.079
<v Speaker 1>can go over before we get to that. I kind

1537
01:23:15.079 --> 01:23:17.520
<v Speaker 1>of want to show this real quick too. I downloaded

1538
01:23:17.560 --> 01:23:23.439
<v Speaker 1>the PDF of the book from uh. I don't know

1539
01:23:23.479 --> 01:23:26.600
<v Speaker 1>why it does this, but I downloaded the PDF of

1540
01:23:26.760 --> 01:23:31.319
<v Speaker 1>The Stranger at the Pentagon book by doctor Frank Strangers.

1541
01:23:31.359 --> 01:23:34.840
<v Speaker 1>You can find it on archive dot org, very easy, free.

1542
01:23:35.720 --> 01:23:38.600
<v Speaker 1>It's said that there are like five or six different

1543
01:23:38.720 --> 01:23:41.479
<v Speaker 1>versions of the book. Some of them are abridged, some

1544
01:23:41.560 --> 01:23:45.600
<v Speaker 1>of them are forwarded. But I thought that one of

1545
01:23:45.640 --> 01:23:51.520
<v Speaker 1>the people that forwarded the story was interesting and you'll

1546
01:23:51.520 --> 01:23:54.920
<v Speaker 1>see why. So that's your boy Frank Strangers right there. Okay,

1547
01:23:55.760 --> 01:23:59.600
<v Speaker 1>it was forwarded by a very interesting individual. So we're

1548
01:23:59.600 --> 01:24:01.399
<v Speaker 1>gonna get to that. Let me see if I can

1549
01:24:01.479 --> 01:24:08.439
<v Speaker 1>find it scrolling booty about the author the acknowledgments. This

1550
01:24:08.479 --> 01:24:14.720
<v Speaker 1>is who it was forwarded by, Doctor Harley Bird. Okay,

1551
01:24:14.760 --> 01:24:20.920
<v Speaker 1>this Harley Bird, This same guy is the nephew of

1552
01:24:21.319 --> 01:24:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Dick Bird, of Richard fucking Bird.

1553
01:24:24.439 --> 01:24:25.199
<v Speaker 3>R interesting.

1554
01:24:25.960 --> 01:24:29.640
<v Speaker 1>So if it's just a hoax, and you had Richard

1555
01:24:29.640 --> 01:24:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Bird going to the poles and potentially talking about land

1556
01:24:33.960 --> 01:24:37.920
<v Speaker 1>beyond the poles being lush and vegetation, or possibly, you know,

1557
01:24:37.960 --> 01:24:40.159
<v Speaker 1>if maybe if you believe his diary where he went

1558
01:24:40.199 --> 01:24:43.199
<v Speaker 1>to the center of the earth and had conversations with aliens,

1559
01:24:43.439 --> 01:24:45.479
<v Speaker 1>if all of that is to be taken with a

1560
01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:48.079
<v Speaker 1>grain of salt, and you're not gonna believe it, why

1561
01:24:48.359 --> 01:24:52.520
<v Speaker 1>in the actual fuck? Why would why would Harley Andrew Bird,

1562
01:24:52.560 --> 01:24:59.279
<v Speaker 1>the great nephew of Admiral Bird, forward this story? I

1563
01:24:59.359 --> 01:25:03.520
<v Speaker 1>honestly could and tell you, but I'm I'm looking into doctor.

1564
01:25:03.680 --> 01:25:07.199
<v Speaker 1>He's a doctor, right, doctor Harley Bird, Doctor Harley Bird, Yes,

1565
01:25:07.359 --> 01:25:11.720
<v Speaker 1>great nephew I believe of old Dick Bird.

1566
01:25:13.119 --> 01:25:15.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to find any kind of connection here. It

1567
01:25:15.359 --> 01:25:16.439
<v Speaker 3>says that he's the nephew.

1568
01:25:16.920 --> 01:25:19.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah. All the sources that I found he

1569
01:25:19.600 --> 01:25:22.720
<v Speaker 1>was the great nephew. And actually it says right here,

1570
01:25:22.840 --> 01:25:25.960
<v Speaker 1>here we go. Actually we'll just read this. This is

1571
01:25:26.039 --> 01:25:29.520
<v Speaker 1>his forward, so I believe it's his forward. But anyway,

1572
01:25:29.520 --> 01:25:31.439
<v Speaker 1>it says during the winner of nineteen fifty six to

1573
01:25:31.479 --> 01:25:36.119
<v Speaker 1>fifty seven, the Washington Washington, DC area was extremely cold,

1574
01:25:36.119 --> 01:25:38.680
<v Speaker 1>but it was a good feeling to be working in

1575
01:25:38.720 --> 01:25:41.079
<v Speaker 1>a high security position in the Pentagon. I lived only

1576
01:25:41.119 --> 01:25:43.920
<v Speaker 1>a short distance away in Georgetown, the old section of

1577
01:25:43.960 --> 01:25:48.319
<v Speaker 1>the nation's capital. Senator J. F. Kennedy lived on O Street,

1578
01:25:48.359 --> 01:25:54.359
<v Speaker 1>just a block away horn from our house on Prospect.

1579
01:25:54.760 --> 01:25:58.760
<v Speaker 1>During a successful tour with the US Naval Ceremonial Honor Guard,

1580
01:25:58.800 --> 01:26:04.079
<v Speaker 1>we had met with astronaut Glenn Cooper, Glenn Cooper Wally Sharrar,

1581
01:26:05.239 --> 01:26:08.319
<v Speaker 1>who were the first wave of successful space travelers. Also,

1582
01:26:08.439 --> 01:26:11.920
<v Speaker 1>we had visited the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier numerous times.

1583
01:26:12.159 --> 01:26:18.520
<v Speaker 1>It seemed like every time a visiting dignitary came to Washington,

1584
01:26:18.760 --> 01:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>they lay a wreath at the tomb. We had met

1585
01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:23.079
<v Speaker 1>with the Queen of England several times at the airport.

1586
01:26:23.159 --> 01:26:25.119
<v Speaker 1>As these were some of the duties I performed as

1587
01:26:25.159 --> 01:26:27.920
<v Speaker 1>a young officer in the Navy. After carrying the two

1588
01:26:27.960 --> 01:26:31.079
<v Speaker 1>star flag at the funeral of my late uncle, Rear

1589
01:26:31.279 --> 01:26:35.399
<v Speaker 1>Admiral Richard E. Byrd, I was recommended for a security

1590
01:26:35.399 --> 01:26:39.520
<v Speaker 1>clearance and was a top secret clearance after a lengthy

1591
01:26:39.600 --> 01:26:44.039
<v Speaker 1>six month background study. After being transferred to the Chief

1592
01:26:44.079 --> 01:26:48.720
<v Speaker 1>of Naval Information or ch CHINFO I worked with. I

1593
01:26:48.760 --> 01:26:52.520
<v Speaker 1>worked in the Security Clearance section before being indoctrinated into

1594
01:26:52.520 --> 01:26:56.159
<v Speaker 1>the branch office of the Air Force called Project Blue Book.

1595
01:26:56.600 --> 01:27:00.399
<v Speaker 1>It was a joint service office that is two Marines, Army,

1596
01:27:00.439 --> 01:27:03.399
<v Speaker 1>two Navy, and three Air Force officers. The route the

1597
01:27:03.720 --> 01:27:09.039
<v Speaker 1>work was routine, opening incoming mail, sorting out what was

1598
01:27:09.199 --> 01:27:12.319
<v Speaker 1>called actual sightings as opposed to many fake UFO photos.

1599
01:27:12.479 --> 01:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>We also acted as a public information office, but much

1600
01:27:15.680 --> 01:27:20.199
<v Speaker 1>like public but much like a public relations office. So

1601
01:27:20.439 --> 01:27:22.880
<v Speaker 1>he's going on about this, this is.

1602
01:27:23.119 --> 01:27:25.880
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm missing something here, and I'm not

1603
01:27:25.920 --> 01:27:27.880
<v Speaker 2>trying to throw shade, you know, I do believe in

1604
01:27:27.960 --> 01:27:30.960
<v Speaker 2>UFOs and aliens and all these things, and all right,

1605
01:27:31.439 --> 01:27:35.159
<v Speaker 2>this being said, so this is the great nephew of

1606
01:27:35.399 --> 01:27:39.079
<v Speaker 2>Admiral Bird, and I don't know why he would be

1607
01:27:39.119 --> 01:27:41.439
<v Speaker 2>carrying the two star flag that's usually done by the

1608
01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:42.760
<v Speaker 2>honor guard for the funeral and all of.

1609
01:27:42.760 --> 01:27:45.159
<v Speaker 1>That, because he said I performed as a young officer

1610
01:27:45.199 --> 01:27:48.439
<v Speaker 1>in the Navy. After carrying the two star flag at

1611
01:27:48.439 --> 01:27:51.840
<v Speaker 1>the funeral of my late uncle, Rear Admiral Richard E. Byrd,

1612
01:27:51.880 --> 01:27:54.359
<v Speaker 1>I was recommended for a security clearance. It was granted

1613
01:27:54.439 --> 01:27:57.039
<v Speaker 1>a top secret clearance, So.

1614
01:27:57.319 --> 01:27:59.640
<v Speaker 2>As a young officer in the Navy, you would not

1615
01:27:59.680 --> 01:28:03.000
<v Speaker 2>be carrying the flag at a funeral detail. Maybe some

1616
01:28:03.119 --> 01:28:05.439
<v Speaker 2>special exception was made because it was a family member,

1617
01:28:05.479 --> 01:28:08.199
<v Speaker 2>but that that sounds weird. I've marched over a thousand funerals.

1618
01:28:08.199 --> 01:28:10.439
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you this with certainty. But like, okay,

1619
01:28:10.600 --> 01:28:12.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe an exception was made. I could I could buy

1620
01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:15.319
<v Speaker 2>the family member. You could, you could see that happen.

1621
01:28:16.680 --> 01:28:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Why whenever you have no background in intel or any

1622
01:28:20.079 --> 01:28:23.159
<v Speaker 2>of these things, you instantly get brought in for a

1623
01:28:23.199 --> 01:28:26.640
<v Speaker 2>background check and you're brought into this realm, like for

1624
01:28:26.720 --> 01:28:29.119
<v Speaker 2>what there seems to be something I'm missing here? Like

1625
01:28:29.720 --> 01:28:32.800
<v Speaker 2>every young naval officer is not brought into the mix,

1626
01:28:33.079 --> 01:28:34.439
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Like, what the fuck was

1627
01:28:34.479 --> 01:28:37.359
<v Speaker 2>the connection here? His great uncle? That's not like he

1628
01:28:37.479 --> 01:28:39.960
<v Speaker 2>was like super They didn't grow up together, you know

1629
01:28:39.960 --> 01:28:41.920
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, Like, I honestly don't even know my

1630
01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:42.760
<v Speaker 2>great uncles.

1631
01:28:43.079 --> 01:28:47.039
<v Speaker 1>I found it, uh, and I had like differing reports

1632
01:28:47.039 --> 01:28:50.279
<v Speaker 1>whether it was his great uncle or or his actual

1633
01:28:50.479 --> 01:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>like first uncle or whatever. This one's just saying that

1634
01:28:55.159 --> 01:28:58.079
<v Speaker 1>it was his late uncle. Didn't say great, but I

1635
01:28:58.119 --> 01:29:00.560
<v Speaker 1>found other articles that did say great, So there might

1636
01:29:00.600 --> 01:29:03.239
<v Speaker 1>be a little bit of miscommunication rate there. Either way,

1637
01:29:03.319 --> 01:29:07.520
<v Speaker 1>it's not unheralded that you would have somebody high ranking

1638
01:29:07.920 --> 01:29:11.640
<v Speaker 1>that their kid or their nephew or their daughter or

1639
01:29:11.680 --> 01:29:17.199
<v Speaker 1>whatever gets kind of vaulted up the path faster than

1640
01:29:17.239 --> 01:29:20.439
<v Speaker 1>everybody else, like I like to point to. I mean,

1641
01:29:20.520 --> 01:29:24.239
<v Speaker 1>think about the obvious ones. For example, like would Tucker

1642
01:29:24.239 --> 01:29:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Carlson be where he is today if it wasn't for

1643
01:29:26.279 --> 01:29:26.760
<v Speaker 1>his dad?

1644
01:29:28.239 --> 01:29:28.520
<v Speaker 9>Fair?

1645
01:29:28.960 --> 01:29:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Fair, you know, that's an example you can't make for

1646
01:29:31.039 --> 01:29:32.800
<v Speaker 2>the CIA, as much as he wants to try.

1647
01:29:32.640 --> 01:29:33.239
<v Speaker 3>To deny that.

1648
01:29:33.319 --> 01:29:35.159
<v Speaker 2>And then well later I found out that to be true,

1649
01:29:35.199 --> 01:29:37.239
<v Speaker 2>even though you knew years prior and admitted to it.

1650
01:29:37.279 --> 01:29:39.319
<v Speaker 1>But whatever, That's what I'm saying. So we see this

1651
01:29:39.399 --> 01:29:41.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of all the time, and maybe this is some

1652
01:29:41.840 --> 01:29:45.439
<v Speaker 1>kind of secret society initiation and some other shit going on.

1653
01:29:45.520 --> 01:29:48.159
<v Speaker 1>Behind closed doors. We don't know, like are they are

1654
01:29:48.159 --> 01:29:51.720
<v Speaker 1>they Freemasons? And what is the Freemason branch for kids?

1655
01:29:52.560 --> 01:29:52.720
<v Speaker 9>Uh?

1656
01:29:52.800 --> 01:29:57.119
<v Speaker 10>The Monaise Yeah, the is it monai'se m O n

1657
01:29:57.199 --> 01:30:00.920
<v Speaker 10>E T no Mollaians Malayians Yeah, yes, yes, they have

1658
01:30:00.960 --> 01:30:03.439
<v Speaker 10>the Malayans, which is supposed to be for the kids

1659
01:30:03.479 --> 01:30:05.720
<v Speaker 10>of the of the parents or whatever that are in

1660
01:30:05.720 --> 01:30:06.520
<v Speaker 10>the Freemasons.

1661
01:30:06.560 --> 01:30:08.600
<v Speaker 1>So it could be a situation like that where these

1662
01:30:08.640 --> 01:30:12.479
<v Speaker 1>kids are essentially kind of groomed to father or to

1663
01:30:12.680 --> 01:30:16.920
<v Speaker 1>follow in their father's or uncle's footsteps.

1664
01:30:17.279 --> 01:30:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I don't know, and I'm not trying to, like

1665
01:30:19.760 --> 01:30:21.319
<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm not trying to throw shade at her

1666
01:30:21.399 --> 01:30:22.279
<v Speaker 2>like poke holes in it.

1667
01:30:22.319 --> 01:30:27.079
<v Speaker 1>I just I feel like we're missing a step here. Yeah,

1668
01:30:27.319 --> 01:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe we are. So yeah, it's it's kind of crazy.

1669
01:30:32.119 --> 01:30:34.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to read too much of this because

1670
01:30:34.279 --> 01:30:36.119
<v Speaker 1>I do want to do a whole episode about reading

1671
01:30:36.159 --> 01:30:38.319
<v Speaker 1>this book because I found it fascinating with what I

1672
01:30:38.319 --> 01:30:43.000
<v Speaker 1>had read. But I wanted to get over to this

1673
01:30:43.039 --> 01:30:47.479
<v Speaker 1>website called the gooldwater dot com very interesting. This was

1674
01:30:47.600 --> 01:30:50.720
<v Speaker 1>posted May of twenty eighteen, but it says Valiant Thor

1675
01:30:50.800 --> 01:30:54.840
<v Speaker 1>the alien from Venus Eisenhower invited to live at the Pentagon.

1676
01:30:55.319 --> 01:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>So now you have different stories, you know, which is interesting.

1677
01:30:58.880 --> 01:31:00.680
<v Speaker 1>How are you going to be having differ stories if

1678
01:31:00.720 --> 01:31:02.600
<v Speaker 1>it all comes from one fucking book. If that's the

1679
01:31:02.640 --> 01:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>only source, how would you have multiple versions of the story? Now,

1680
01:31:06.720 --> 01:31:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I did say that it had been you know, the

1681
01:31:09.720 --> 01:31:13.319
<v Speaker 1>story had kind of been like redone several times and

1682
01:31:13.359 --> 01:31:19.199
<v Speaker 1>forwarded and reabridged and stuff like that. The original story,

1683
01:31:19.039 --> 01:31:22.239
<v Speaker 1>the original book actually was like two hundred and thirty

1684
01:31:22.239 --> 01:31:25.920
<v Speaker 1>six pages or something like that. And then you go

1685
01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:28.079
<v Speaker 1>and look at the story, the version of the story

1686
01:31:28.079 --> 01:31:30.439
<v Speaker 1>that I just brought up, it's only like one hundred

1687
01:31:30.479 --> 01:31:35.239
<v Speaker 1>and thirty something pages. So maybe I don't know. I

1688
01:31:35.720 --> 01:31:39.000
<v Speaker 1>was trying to find out, like what components of the

1689
01:31:39.039 --> 01:31:41.479
<v Speaker 1>story were taken out of the original story that caused

1690
01:31:41.520 --> 01:31:45.039
<v Speaker 1>it to be like one hundred pages less, And from

1691
01:31:45.199 --> 01:31:49.079
<v Speaker 1>all of my findings, there wasn't really that much taken away.

1692
01:31:49.159 --> 01:31:51.800
<v Speaker 1>It was just kind of reducing it and making it

1693
01:31:51.840 --> 01:31:55.119
<v Speaker 1>easier to read. So do with that as you will.

1694
01:31:56.439 --> 01:31:58.680
<v Speaker 1>You can still find the original version, so it's not

1695
01:31:58.760 --> 01:32:01.000
<v Speaker 1>like it was a book burn or anything like that.

1696
01:32:02.319 --> 01:32:05.359
<v Speaker 1>But anyhow, it says perhaps you heard of stranger at

1697
01:32:05.399 --> 01:32:08.479
<v Speaker 1>the Pentagon, a book by a man named doctor Frankie Strangers,

1698
01:32:08.520 --> 01:32:11.760
<v Speaker 1>who helped a top secret security clearance or who held

1699
01:32:11.840 --> 01:32:14.840
<v Speaker 1>a top secret security clearance at the Pentagon, But have

1700
01:32:14.960 --> 01:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>you actually looked into it? Strangers tells a story of

1701
01:32:17.840 --> 01:32:21.319
<v Speaker 1>how on March sixteenth, nineteen fifty seven, an alien ship

1702
01:32:21.399 --> 01:32:25.359
<v Speaker 1>landed in a town called Alexandria in Virginia. Aboard the

1703
01:32:25.359 --> 01:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>craft were four extraterrestrial beings, one of whom was named

1704
01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:34.159
<v Speaker 1>Valiant Or val Valiant Thor Okay. Val was eventually invited

1705
01:32:34.199 --> 01:32:36.319
<v Speaker 1>to live at the Pentagon on a VIP status for

1706
01:32:36.359 --> 01:32:39.119
<v Speaker 1>three years by President Eisenhower, and during that time he

1707
01:32:39.159 --> 01:32:44.039
<v Speaker 1>met with several high level government officials, including Nixon. Doctor

1708
01:32:44.079 --> 01:32:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Stranger says in nineteen fifty eight, he came into possession

1709
01:32:47.279 --> 01:32:52.279
<v Speaker 1>of a photograph of an extraterrestrian extraterrestrial named Valiant Thor

1710
01:32:52.560 --> 01:32:57.119
<v Speaker 1>and his second in command, female officer named Jill, just Jill.

1711
01:32:58.800 --> 01:33:03.119
<v Speaker 1>Doctor Strangers took the photograph of UFO two UFO conferences

1712
01:33:03.159 --> 01:33:06.720
<v Speaker 1>and said that Valiant Thor and Jill were extraterrestrials from

1713
01:33:06.760 --> 01:33:11.520
<v Speaker 1>planet Venus. He seemingly, his seemingly wildtail drew the attention

1714
01:33:11.680 --> 01:33:14.199
<v Speaker 1>of the authorities, and Doctor Strangers was contacted by a

1715
01:33:14.239 --> 01:33:18.359
<v Speaker 1>Pentagon official named Nancy Warren, who told him that Val

1716
01:33:18.479 --> 01:33:22.319
<v Speaker 1>himself had requested to meet with him. Doctor Strangers happily

1717
01:33:22.319 --> 01:33:25.079
<v Speaker 1>accepted the invitation and met with Val, who explained to

1718
01:33:25.159 --> 01:33:27.760
<v Speaker 1>him that he and his three person crew arrived on

1719
01:33:27.760 --> 01:33:31.520
<v Speaker 1>March sixteenth, nineteen fifty seven, in Alexandria, Virginia. When Nancy

1720
01:33:31.560 --> 01:33:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Warren landed in Alexandria accompanied by Doctor Strangers, they were

1721
01:33:36.039 --> 01:33:38.880
<v Speaker 1>met by two police officers who brought them to the Pentagon.

1722
01:33:39.199 --> 01:33:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Val would meet with Neil H. McElroy, the Secretary of

1723
01:33:43.920 --> 01:33:48.159
<v Speaker 1>Defense at that time, President Eisenhower, and President Vice President Nixon.

1724
01:33:48.680 --> 01:33:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Doctor Strangers claims that Val and his team met with

1725
01:33:51.680 --> 01:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>senior government officials, including Air Force commanders, on several occasions,

1726
01:33:55.840 --> 01:33:58.359
<v Speaker 1>and gave them advice on policy in how to deal

1727
01:33:58.439 --> 01:34:02.239
<v Speaker 1>with other extraterrestrial beings. Doctor Strangers goes on to explain

1728
01:34:02.279 --> 01:34:05.159
<v Speaker 1>how a friendship was developed between himself and Vow, who

1729
01:34:05.520 --> 01:34:08.479
<v Speaker 1>even saved his life on several occasions. He said Vow

1730
01:34:08.600 --> 01:34:11.239
<v Speaker 1>was a leader from Venus who where he came from,

1731
01:34:11.560 --> 01:34:13.760
<v Speaker 1>and came to Earth to help overcome some of the

1732
01:34:13.800 --> 01:34:17.560
<v Speaker 1>issues threatening the planet. Doctor Strange's has several photos documenting

1733
01:34:17.600 --> 01:34:20.960
<v Speaker 1>the story, including pictures of Valiant Thor. He described how

1734
01:34:21.039 --> 01:34:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Val told him that he came from Venus, where his

1735
01:34:23.920 --> 01:34:27.159
<v Speaker 1>people live under the planet's surface. He is said to

1736
01:34:27.199 --> 01:34:31.880
<v Speaker 1>have six fingers, six toes, one lung, and a larger

1737
01:34:31.920 --> 01:34:37.239
<v Speaker 1>brain than humans. All right. Vou even took Doctor Strangers

1738
01:34:37.239 --> 01:34:40.920
<v Speaker 1>aboard his craft and showed him the assassination of Kennedy

1739
01:34:41.239 --> 01:34:45.159
<v Speaker 1>through a viewing device and said that he warned him

1740
01:34:45.199 --> 01:34:48.359
<v Speaker 1>not to run for office, So that's the assassination of

1741
01:34:49.039 --> 01:34:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Robert Kennedy, not JSK. He also said Thor had a

1742
01:34:52.960 --> 01:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>way of using mind controllabilities that allowed him to mimic

1743
01:34:56.039 --> 01:34:59.399
<v Speaker 1>a Pentagon badge and even walk through walls. Val even

1744
01:34:59.439 --> 01:35:02.880
<v Speaker 1>offered to show President Eisenhower how to heal people without

1745
01:35:02.880 --> 01:35:05.399
<v Speaker 1>the use of medicine, but he declined and said it

1746
01:35:05.399 --> 01:35:09.520
<v Speaker 1>would destroy the economy. Makes sense. Doctor Strange also tells

1747
01:35:09.560 --> 01:35:12.119
<v Speaker 1>of how men in black followed him and even tried

1748
01:35:12.119 --> 01:35:14.600
<v Speaker 1>to kill him on several occasions, and if it was

1749
01:35:14.680 --> 01:35:18.800
<v Speaker 1>not for Val intervening intervening, they would not have succeeded.

1750
01:35:19.159 --> 01:35:21.800
<v Speaker 1>One such attempt left doctor Strange in the hospital with

1751
01:35:21.880 --> 01:35:24.680
<v Speaker 1>a broken neck after a car accident caused by the

1752
01:35:24.720 --> 01:35:27.399
<v Speaker 1>alleged men in black. He said, Vow came to his

1753
01:35:27.479 --> 01:35:30.479
<v Speaker 1>hospital bed and prayed over him and for a few hours,

1754
01:35:30.520 --> 01:35:33.279
<v Speaker 1>and a few hours later he walked out of the hospital.

1755
01:35:33.479 --> 01:35:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Another one of the men in black incidents included Val

1756
01:35:36.119 --> 01:35:38.800
<v Speaker 1>using his abilities to vaporize the tires of the men

1757
01:35:38.840 --> 01:35:43.039
<v Speaker 1>in Black's car following them. All right, so these seem

1758
01:35:43.159 --> 01:35:47.319
<v Speaker 1>like pretty fucking bold claims, right, but we're of the

1759
01:35:47.399 --> 01:35:50.600
<v Speaker 1>belief that there is a flavor of men in black

1760
01:35:50.640 --> 01:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>that do exist, right yep, And so I don't know,

1761
01:35:55.039 --> 01:35:57.960
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty interesting. Now we're gonna get to the video

1762
01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:01.720
<v Speaker 1>of him speaking. Now, we're gonna intermittently stop in between

1763
01:36:02.279 --> 01:36:04.279
<v Speaker 1>certain things that he's going to say right here. But

1764
01:36:04.439 --> 01:36:07.840
<v Speaker 1>this is doctor Frank Stranger's at a conference where he

1765
01:36:07.920 --> 01:36:11.600
<v Speaker 1>tells the entire story. So are you ready to dive

1766
01:36:11.600 --> 01:36:12.159
<v Speaker 1>into this one?

1767
01:36:12.159 --> 01:36:12.399
<v Speaker 7>Sir?

1768
01:36:12.880 --> 01:36:13.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh I am.

1769
01:36:14.119 --> 01:36:16.039
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be very interesting. I found a good

1770
01:36:16.079 --> 01:36:19.239
<v Speaker 1>starting point, and so we're going to start it right here,

1771
01:36:19.600 --> 01:36:21.159
<v Speaker 1>and we will stop accordingly.

1772
01:36:21.600 --> 01:36:23.520
<v Speaker 9>How many of you in this audience have ever seen

1773
01:36:23.560 --> 01:36:26.760
<v Speaker 9>an unidentified flying object? Would you raise your hands right?

1774
01:36:27.680 --> 01:36:30.439
<v Speaker 9>How many have never seen anything unusual in the skies?

1775
01:36:31.800 --> 01:36:35.319
<v Speaker 9>All right, some of you haven't moved yet. How many

1776
01:36:35.319 --> 01:36:36.960
<v Speaker 9>of you don't give a hoot whether you see them

1777
01:36:37.039 --> 01:36:40.560
<v Speaker 9>or not? Okay, question how many of you would like

1778
01:36:40.640 --> 01:36:43.600
<v Speaker 9>to see something unusual? I know I'd get you to stay.

1779
01:36:43.640 --> 01:36:46.600
<v Speaker 9>All right, We'll see what we can arrange before the

1780
01:36:46.640 --> 01:36:56.520
<v Speaker 9>meeting is finished. I thoroughly enjoyed the wisdom, the understanding,

1781
01:36:56.640 --> 01:37:00.199
<v Speaker 9>and the knowledge of all the speakers thus far, and

1782
01:37:00.279 --> 01:37:04.439
<v Speaker 9>I feel privileged to stand on the same platform as

1783
01:37:04.439 --> 01:37:10.279
<v Speaker 9>they have, including beautiful Angelica. She did a fantastic job

1784
01:37:10.359 --> 01:37:19.239
<v Speaker 9>last night, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I'm going to

1785
01:37:19.319 --> 01:37:22.239
<v Speaker 9>move rather quickly on what I've got to say today

1786
01:37:23.680 --> 01:37:26.439
<v Speaker 9>because I want to get to the Dead Sea Scroll mysteries.

1787
01:37:28.239 --> 01:37:31.720
<v Speaker 9>The UFO phenomena has been with us for literally thousands

1788
01:37:31.720 --> 01:37:34.119
<v Speaker 9>and thousands of years. This is not something that just

1789
01:37:34.159 --> 01:37:39.840
<v Speaker 9>happened in nineteen forty seven. Prehistory reveals the existence of

1790
01:37:39.880 --> 01:37:45.079
<v Speaker 9>spacecraft as well as individuals from other worlds, and I'm

1791
01:37:45.119 --> 01:37:47.359
<v Speaker 9>going to go into that quite thoroughly in just a

1792
01:37:47.399 --> 01:37:52.359
<v Speaker 9>few moments, examining the origins of UFOs. First of all,

1793
01:37:53.239 --> 01:37:59.319
<v Speaker 9>the experts say that's the government experts. There's no such

1794
01:37:59.399 --> 01:38:02.960
<v Speaker 9>thing as a U I saw a bumper sticken when

1795
01:38:02.960 --> 01:38:05.720
<v Speaker 9>I left Los Angeles to come to Hawaii, and they

1796
01:38:05.760 --> 01:38:15.039
<v Speaker 9>said UFOs are real. The Air Force doesn't exist, but

1797
01:38:15.399 --> 01:38:19.319
<v Speaker 9>number one figments of the imagination. Some people say that

1798
01:38:19.479 --> 01:38:23.520
<v Speaker 9>these people do not see anything. Actually it's a psychological

1799
01:38:23.680 --> 01:38:26.960
<v Speaker 9>surge that they see something that isn't there, figments of

1800
01:38:26.960 --> 01:38:30.399
<v Speaker 9>the imagination. Well, I beg to different because I've questioned

1801
01:38:30.439 --> 01:38:33.720
<v Speaker 9>people from all walks of life since nineteen forty five,

1802
01:38:34.079 --> 01:38:36.640
<v Speaker 9>and I'm thoroughly convinced that many of the people, not

1803
01:38:36.720 --> 01:38:39.119
<v Speaker 9>all of them, but many of the most of them

1804
01:38:39.199 --> 01:38:43.760
<v Speaker 9>have actually had a strange and unusual experience of seeing

1805
01:38:43.800 --> 01:38:46.840
<v Speaker 9>something in the skies. Some of them come out of

1806
01:38:46.880 --> 01:38:50.359
<v Speaker 9>the water, some go diving into the waters, both oceans,

1807
01:38:50.520 --> 01:38:52.880
<v Speaker 9>rivers all over the world, oceans all over the world.

1808
01:38:53.880 --> 01:38:58.079
<v Speaker 9>The second possibility UFOs are secret devices of the United

1809
01:38:58.119 --> 01:39:03.279
<v Speaker 9>States Government. Before I say one word more, please understand,

1810
01:39:03.399 --> 01:39:05.920
<v Speaker 9>I'm not at odds. I'm not at war with the

1811
01:39:06.039 --> 01:39:10.439
<v Speaker 9>United States government. Despite what's happening in Washington, I still

1812
01:39:10.479 --> 01:39:13.119
<v Speaker 9>think we've got the best government and the most beautiful

1813
01:39:13.159 --> 01:39:16.000
<v Speaker 9>flag on the face of the earth. That's my feeling.

1814
01:39:16.800 --> 01:39:17.039
<v Speaker 1>Now.

1815
01:39:17.239 --> 01:39:23.279
<v Speaker 9>The government has been actively engaged in actually building constructing

1816
01:39:23.439 --> 01:39:28.000
<v Speaker 9>unidentified flying objects. They have not gone as fast as

1817
01:39:28.079 --> 01:39:31.800
<v Speaker 9>those from outer space, but they have mystified people who

1818
01:39:31.800 --> 01:39:34.680
<v Speaker 9>have looked into the skies and have witnessed strange and

1819
01:39:34.760 --> 01:39:38.760
<v Speaker 9>unusual objects traveling at speeds exceeding twenty thousand miles per hour,

1820
01:39:41.880 --> 01:39:45.119
<v Speaker 9>violating every known law of aerodynamics. But those are not

1821
01:39:46.439 --> 01:39:51.520
<v Speaker 9>created by the government. They're extraterrestrial in origin. The third

1822
01:39:51.600 --> 01:39:55.119
<v Speaker 9>possibility some people say, well they come from Russia. Well,

1823
01:39:55.199 --> 01:39:59.159
<v Speaker 9>Russia has been also engaged in building such mechanics, such

1824
01:39:59.199 --> 01:40:02.640
<v Speaker 9>as a flying sauces for many many years, even when

1825
01:40:02.640 --> 01:40:06.000
<v Speaker 9>it was called the Soviet Union. They were busy trying

1826
01:40:06.039 --> 01:40:09.520
<v Speaker 9>to construct a spacecraft to go from this planet to

1827
01:40:09.600 --> 01:40:13.439
<v Speaker 9>other planets, but they have not fully succeeded. The fraud

1828
01:40:13.560 --> 01:40:17.039
<v Speaker 9>possibility is that some of them were created by the

1829
01:40:17.399 --> 01:40:21.119
<v Speaker 9>Nazis during the World War II, which is absolutely true.

1830
01:40:21.840 --> 01:40:23.880
<v Speaker 9>If you take a list of my books and tapes

1831
01:40:23.920 --> 01:40:26.399
<v Speaker 9>from my table today, you'll see I have a book

1832
01:40:26.439 --> 01:40:31.239
<v Speaker 9>called Nazi UFOs and Secret Bases on Earth. They have

1833
01:40:31.399 --> 01:40:37.039
<v Speaker 9>actually created and flown a flying saucered disk, and at

1834
01:40:37.079 --> 01:40:40.479
<v Speaker 9>the end of the war, the FURA insisted that they

1835
01:40:40.520 --> 01:40:43.359
<v Speaker 9>create such a disk in order to turn the tide

1836
01:40:43.399 --> 01:40:47.560
<v Speaker 9>against the Allies. They came up with a prototype, a

1837
01:40:47.560 --> 01:40:51.840
<v Speaker 9>fantastic ship that did fly, not faster than sound, but

1838
01:40:52.000 --> 01:40:54.800
<v Speaker 9>it did fly, and it mystified people who saw this

1839
01:40:54.920 --> 01:40:59.319
<v Speaker 9>strange aerial object in the skies. And then toward the

1840
01:40:59.439 --> 01:41:02.000
<v Speaker 9>end of the war, the scientists who were involved in this,

1841
01:41:03.239 --> 01:41:06.119
<v Speaker 9>which I had the privilege of meeting in Germany some

1842
01:41:06.279 --> 01:41:10.479
<v Speaker 9>years ago, they said, we decided to take the whole thing,

1843
01:41:10.600 --> 01:41:14.159
<v Speaker 9>the Golden Goose, the eggs, the prototypes and everything, and

1844
01:41:14.239 --> 01:41:18.399
<v Speaker 9>by special arrangement with the Yubo commander went down where

1845
01:41:18.520 --> 01:41:23.319
<v Speaker 9>into South America, especially Argentina, and that's why they escaped.

1846
01:41:24.560 --> 01:41:32.399
<v Speaker 9>Another possibility is that these are instruments and people who

1847
01:41:32.479 --> 01:41:38.520
<v Speaker 9>have mastered into dimensional flight, and we're going to couple

1848
01:41:38.560 --> 01:41:43.159
<v Speaker 9>that with the next possibility into dimensional flight, which is

1849
01:41:43.199 --> 01:41:48.640
<v Speaker 9>not impossible today, and also time travel. These are theories

1850
01:41:48.640 --> 01:41:51.800
<v Speaker 9>that have also been postulated by investigators of the United

1851
01:41:51.800 --> 01:41:57.640
<v Speaker 9>States Air Force. And then another possibility is that they're

1852
01:41:57.680 --> 01:42:00.880
<v Speaker 9>coming from the inner Earth. In Earth. Come on, now,

1853
01:42:01.520 --> 01:42:05.239
<v Speaker 9>my friends, I think I have some slides today that'll

1854
01:42:05.279 --> 01:42:08.840
<v Speaker 9>show the opening at the South Pole. And if you

1855
01:42:08.960 --> 01:42:13.159
<v Speaker 9>think that there's no civilization on the inside of this planet,

1856
01:42:13.640 --> 01:42:19.199
<v Speaker 9>you're very mistaken. The Earth is hollow. There are civilizations

1857
01:42:19.279 --> 01:42:22.439
<v Speaker 9>upon civilizations on the inside of this planet. Some come

1858
01:42:22.479 --> 01:42:27.560
<v Speaker 9>from out of space, some are remnants' descendants from the

1859
01:42:27.600 --> 01:42:31.039
<v Speaker 9>Great Flood of Noah. If we have time, we'll go

1860
01:42:31.119 --> 01:42:32.800
<v Speaker 9>into that, because we're going to be talking about the

1861
01:42:32.840 --> 01:42:36.560
<v Speaker 9>giants in the land today. And then the final possibility

1862
01:42:37.039 --> 01:42:40.000
<v Speaker 9>is that they're from out of space. Now, how many

1863
01:42:40.000 --> 01:42:42.600
<v Speaker 9>of you in this audience believe that we are not

1864
01:42:42.720 --> 01:42:46.479
<v Speaker 9>alone in the universe? Okay? How many of you believe

1865
01:42:46.479 --> 01:42:48.279
<v Speaker 9>that if people are from out of space they will

1866
01:42:48.319 --> 01:42:51.439
<v Speaker 9>look like us? Now, I'm going to ask you another

1867
01:42:51.439 --> 01:42:54.159
<v Speaker 9>few questions. How much? And look at me. Don't look around,

1868
01:42:55.800 --> 01:43:00.840
<v Speaker 9>I said, don't look around. If they come from out

1869
01:43:00.840 --> 01:43:03.239
<v Speaker 9>of space and they look like us, how many of

1870
01:43:03.239 --> 01:43:05.279
<v Speaker 9>you think that there could be some of them in

1871
01:43:05.359 --> 01:43:08.520
<v Speaker 9>this audience today? I told you not to look around.

1872
01:43:11.600 --> 01:43:16.680
<v Speaker 9>It's amazing. Before you discuss the possibility of people from

1873
01:43:16.720 --> 01:43:19.279
<v Speaker 9>out of space, you've got to be very careful to

1874
01:43:19.319 --> 01:43:24.640
<v Speaker 9>whom you speak. And I was in the hotel in

1875
01:43:24.960 --> 01:43:29.279
<v Speaker 9>Des Moines, Iowa, after a UFO conference. The conference was over,

1876
01:43:29.319 --> 01:43:32.399
<v Speaker 9>the convention was all finished. We were walking into the

1877
01:43:32.439 --> 01:43:36.920
<v Speaker 9>coffee shop. My then time wife met some people who

1878
01:43:37.079 --> 01:43:39.600
<v Speaker 9>she recognized. And you know how ladies are, They love

1879
01:43:39.640 --> 01:43:41.359
<v Speaker 9>to stand and talk. I said, I'll see you late.

1880
01:43:41.399 --> 01:43:43.560
<v Speaker 9>I'll be in the coffee shop. And I walked into

1881
01:43:43.600 --> 01:43:48.520
<v Speaker 9>the coffee shop, sat down at the counter, minding my

1882
01:43:48.640 --> 01:43:50.720
<v Speaker 9>own business. How many of you know what trouble you

1883
01:43:50.760 --> 01:43:56.119
<v Speaker 9>can get to minding your own business. And this waitress

1884
01:43:56.119 --> 01:43:58.840
<v Speaker 9>comes from clear across the other end of the restaurant.

1885
01:43:59.399 --> 01:44:01.640
<v Speaker 9>She says, he he ha, ha ha. Are you the

1886
01:44:01.680 --> 01:44:05.520
<v Speaker 9>flying source of preacher? What am I going to say?

1887
01:44:05.520 --> 01:44:09.279
<v Speaker 9>I said yes, And as she drew closer, she said,

1888
01:44:09.960 --> 01:44:12.119
<v Speaker 9>did you see any little green man in there? I

1889
01:44:12.159 --> 01:44:15.439
<v Speaker 9>said no, not one showed up. And as she came

1890
01:44:15.520 --> 01:44:18.479
<v Speaker 9>and sat directly stood right in front of the seat

1891
01:44:18.479 --> 01:44:21.279
<v Speaker 9>where I was sitting at the counter, she plunked down

1892
01:44:21.319 --> 01:44:23.800
<v Speaker 9>the glass of water and I looked at her and

1893
01:44:23.840 --> 01:44:32.199
<v Speaker 9>I said, there are two of us, And her lower

1894
01:44:32.239 --> 01:44:36.039
<v Speaker 9>lip began to quiver, and she stooped over to examine

1895
01:44:36.039 --> 01:44:39.239
<v Speaker 9>the empty seat next to me, and I said, my

1896
01:44:39.279 --> 01:44:43.640
<v Speaker 9>wife will be in in just a moment. She grabbed

1897
01:44:43.640 --> 01:44:45.239
<v Speaker 9>her chest. Do you know they had to send her

1898
01:44:45.239 --> 01:44:46.279
<v Speaker 9>home in a taxicab?

1899
01:44:46.520 --> 01:44:49.439
<v Speaker 11>And that it is time that world governments officially ignowed,

1900
01:44:52.960 --> 01:44:53.359
<v Speaker 11>So be.

1901
01:44:53.399 --> 01:44:56.760
<v Speaker 9>Very careful to whom you speak concerning UFOs, because I

1902
01:44:56.800 --> 01:45:00.279
<v Speaker 9>may not quite understand, all right, if they're from out

1903
01:45:00.279 --> 01:45:05.199
<v Speaker 9>of space, where are they possibly from? The information that

1904
01:45:05.239 --> 01:45:07.880
<v Speaker 9>I've been given by command of Valiant thor from the

1905
01:45:07.920 --> 01:45:13.239
<v Speaker 9>interior of the planet Venus, is that practically every planet

1906
01:45:13.319 --> 01:45:17.520
<v Speaker 9>in our system and other systems are populated with people

1907
01:45:17.560 --> 01:45:21.960
<v Speaker 9>from other worlds. Only the majority of them live on

1908
01:45:22.000 --> 01:45:27.239
<v Speaker 9>the interior of the planet. Now, my research up until

1909
01:45:27.359 --> 01:45:32.560
<v Speaker 9>nineteen fifty nine was confined to the nuts and bolts

1910
01:45:32.600 --> 01:45:36.680
<v Speaker 9>of the UFOs, and then I had an experience that

1911
01:45:36.840 --> 01:45:40.800
<v Speaker 9>changed my life forever. As a minister, as a pastor

1912
01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:43.399
<v Speaker 9>of a church at that time and full time evangelist,

1913
01:45:43.960 --> 01:45:46.279
<v Speaker 9>I would go from church to church and I would

1914
01:45:46.279 --> 01:45:49.520
<v Speaker 9>show pictures of UFOs on the board. These were black

1915
01:45:49.560 --> 01:45:53.359
<v Speaker 9>and white pictures, very few in color, and I'd be

1916
01:45:53.359 --> 01:45:55.560
<v Speaker 9>able to explain to the audience, thus and so on

1917
01:45:55.600 --> 01:46:00.960
<v Speaker 9>does and so time date, place witnesses names. Receive a

1918
01:46:01.000 --> 01:46:04.439
<v Speaker 9>telephone call at my home in Irvington, New Jersey, a

1919
01:46:04.439 --> 01:46:07.159
<v Speaker 9>call from a former Air Force photographer by the name

1920
01:46:07.199 --> 01:46:10.840
<v Speaker 9>of August C. Roberts, and Algie gets on the phone

1921
01:46:10.840 --> 01:46:12.840
<v Speaker 9>and he said doctor, Frank, guess what? I said? What

1922
01:46:13.600 --> 01:46:16.319
<v Speaker 9>he said, I met a man from another planet? I said, smoke?

1923
01:46:16.520 --> 01:46:19.520
<v Speaker 9>What have you been smoking? He said, you want to

1924
01:46:19.560 --> 01:46:22.760
<v Speaker 9>hear this? And all I said, yes, please, please? Where

1925
01:46:22.760 --> 01:46:25.479
<v Speaker 9>did you see him? He said, Not only did I

1926
01:46:25.560 --> 01:46:29.560
<v Speaker 9>see him? I took his picture. I said, fine, what

1927
01:46:29.720 --> 01:46:31.840
<v Speaker 9>makes you think he's from out of space? And where

1928
01:46:32.000 --> 01:46:35.039
<v Speaker 9>was this? He said? At the lawn UFO lecture at

1929
01:46:35.039 --> 01:46:38.640
<v Speaker 9>the home of Howard Meinger in Highbridge, New Jersey. I said,

1930
01:46:38.640 --> 01:46:41.840
<v Speaker 9>that's interesting. What makes you think he's from out of space? Well,

1931
01:46:41.880 --> 01:46:44.680
<v Speaker 9>he said Frank, When he looked at me, I got

1932
01:46:44.680 --> 01:46:47.439
<v Speaker 9>the distinct impression he could look straight through me. I said,

1933
01:46:47.439 --> 01:46:52.359
<v Speaker 9>my father does that to me? Now? He said, come on, now,

1934
01:46:52.359 --> 01:46:54.520
<v Speaker 9>you want to hear this. I'm sorry, go ahead. What

1935
01:46:54.680 --> 01:46:57.479
<v Speaker 9>else he said? Well, the man could speak every known

1936
01:46:57.600 --> 01:47:01.399
<v Speaker 9>language and dialect on the I said, the earth. He said.

1937
01:47:01.399 --> 01:47:04.319
<v Speaker 9>There were people at that convention from foreign countries, and

1938
01:47:04.359 --> 01:47:07.199
<v Speaker 9>he could speak to them, including to some people from Africa.

1939
01:47:07.439 --> 01:47:10.920
<v Speaker 9>He spoke in their dialect. I said, well, that's interesting.

1940
01:47:10.960 --> 01:47:13.800
<v Speaker 9>I said, What else? He said? The guy had no fingerprints.

1941
01:47:13.800 --> 01:47:17.119
<v Speaker 9>Oh that interested me. As a former special investigator, I

1942
01:47:17.199 --> 01:47:22.039
<v Speaker 9>know the science of fingerprinting. Everybody has fingerprints. He said

1943
01:47:23.399 --> 01:47:28.479
<v Speaker 9>his tips of his fingers were bald as a boiled egg.

1944
01:47:28.680 --> 01:47:31.479
<v Speaker 9>I said, is that right? That interested me? I said,

1945
01:47:31.479 --> 01:47:33.319
<v Speaker 9>oh right, I'll take the pictures. I'll put him on

1946
01:47:33.359 --> 01:47:36.279
<v Speaker 9>the board at the universities, colleges and churches that I

1947
01:47:36.319 --> 01:47:39.560
<v Speaker 9>address on the subject, and I'll say this is what

1948
01:47:39.600 --> 01:47:44.640
<v Speaker 9>Augi Roberts said, which I did. I was invited to Washington,

1949
01:47:44.720 --> 01:47:47.960
<v Speaker 9>d C. To a church passes by doctor John Mears,

1950
01:47:48.159 --> 01:47:51.640
<v Speaker 9>congregation of about two thousand people. I put the pictures

1951
01:47:51.640 --> 01:47:55.039
<v Speaker 9>of this man I didn't know his name on the

1952
01:47:55.039 --> 01:47:57.880
<v Speaker 9>board and told people, this is the picture of the

1953
01:47:57.960 --> 01:48:00.960
<v Speaker 9>man who claims to be from another planet. And the

1954
01:48:00.960 --> 01:48:04.079
<v Speaker 9>picture was taken by Augie Roberts, an Air Force photographer.

1955
01:48:04.720 --> 01:48:08.720
<v Speaker 9>And all I know about him is what I'm telling

1956
01:48:08.720 --> 01:48:12.239
<v Speaker 9>you today. He stands about six foot tall, weighs about

1957
01:48:12.239 --> 01:48:15.159
<v Speaker 9>one hundred and eighty pounds one hundred and eighty five pounds,

1958
01:48:15.800 --> 01:48:20.039
<v Speaker 9>and this is what he looked like, like a normal

1959
01:48:20.159 --> 01:48:23.479
<v Speaker 9>human being. And I had this picture up on the board.

1960
01:48:24.439 --> 01:48:30.000
<v Speaker 9>At the end of my presentation, I was signing autographs

1961
01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:33.319
<v Speaker 9>to my first books, which is called Sorcerama, and people

1962
01:48:33.399 --> 01:48:35.920
<v Speaker 9>were coming along the platform, and I was just signing

1963
01:48:35.960 --> 01:48:40.640
<v Speaker 9>and signing and the lady comes to the platform and

1964
01:48:40.680 --> 01:48:42.960
<v Speaker 9>they teach you in seminary, you've got to be nice

1965
01:48:43.000 --> 01:48:47.159
<v Speaker 9>to the ladies, especially in church. And she says to me,

1966
01:48:47.279 --> 01:48:53.319
<v Speaker 9>doctor strange. I said, strangers. She said, I've got to

1967
01:48:53.359 --> 01:48:58.439
<v Speaker 9>see you alone. Oh boy, I said, ma'am, you know,

1968
01:48:58.560 --> 01:49:00.840
<v Speaker 9>can you wait just and I got a couple of

1969
01:49:00.920 --> 01:49:04.239
<v Speaker 9>hundred more books to sign here, I've got to see

1970
01:49:04.279 --> 01:49:08.199
<v Speaker 9>you now. And she was irritated at me, and she

1971
01:49:08.319 --> 01:49:12.039
<v Speaker 9>straightened up and reached into her purse and she produced

1972
01:49:12.640 --> 01:49:16.039
<v Speaker 9>out of her purse an ID card that said United

1973
01:49:16.079 --> 01:49:21.119
<v Speaker 9>States Government something similar to this, United States Government Pentagon,

1974
01:49:21.199 --> 01:49:25.560
<v Speaker 9>building departments so and so, room number so and so.

1975
01:49:26.359 --> 01:49:29.239
<v Speaker 9>The other side was her photograph with a number beneath

1976
01:49:29.279 --> 01:49:34.439
<v Speaker 9>her photograph. I was converted immediately. I asked the pastor

1977
01:49:34.640 --> 01:49:36.880
<v Speaker 9>to borrow his key front to his office. This lady

1978
01:49:36.960 --> 01:49:39.920
<v Speaker 9>wanted to talk to me. He said, yeah, okay, and

1979
01:49:39.960 --> 01:49:43.760
<v Speaker 9>he gives me the key. As we started to leave

1980
01:49:43.800 --> 01:49:49.439
<v Speaker 9>the platform, we passed the photograph of this stranger from

1981
01:49:49.720 --> 01:49:53.720
<v Speaker 9>another planet and she points to him. She said, how

1982
01:49:53.760 --> 01:49:56.680
<v Speaker 9>would you like to meet him personally? But what would

1983
01:49:56.680 --> 01:50:01.680
<v Speaker 9>you say? My father in heaven, I said, of course,

1984
01:50:02.399 --> 01:50:05.560
<v Speaker 9>where is he? She said at the Pentagon. I said, oh,

1985
01:50:05.600 --> 01:50:08.680
<v Speaker 9>my father, if the government was going to pull a

1986
01:50:08.800 --> 01:50:11.199
<v Speaker 9>past a fast one on frank strangers, that would be

1987
01:50:11.199 --> 01:50:14.960
<v Speaker 9>the place to do it. At the Pentagon. Well walked

1988
01:50:14.960 --> 01:50:17.960
<v Speaker 9>into the pastor's office. She pointed her finger. I don't

1989
01:50:18.000 --> 01:50:19.840
<v Speaker 9>know why they was point their finger at my nose.

1990
01:50:20.359 --> 01:50:24.199
<v Speaker 9>She said, ten years before a special investigator still follow instructions.

1991
01:50:24.239 --> 01:50:27.279
<v Speaker 9>I said, yes, ma'am, she said to the letter, Yes ma'am.

1992
01:50:29.239 --> 01:50:31.279
<v Speaker 9>She said, you meet me downstairs in front of your

1993
01:50:31.279 --> 01:50:33.840
<v Speaker 9>hotel at eight o'clock shop tomorrow morning, and I'll take

1994
01:50:33.880 --> 01:50:36.239
<v Speaker 9>you to where he is. I said, at the Pedagon.

1995
01:50:36.399 --> 01:50:42.199
<v Speaker 9>She said, mm hmm. Her name was Nancy Warren. I

1996
01:50:42.239 --> 01:50:45.560
<v Speaker 9>didn't get much sleep last night. When I talked to

1997
01:50:45.600 --> 01:50:47.880
<v Speaker 9>my parents, I didn't tell them about that on the

1998
01:50:47.920 --> 01:50:53.920
<v Speaker 9>phone eight o'clock tomorrow. The following morning, I was down

1999
01:50:54.000 --> 01:50:55.760
<v Speaker 9>there on the cold sidewalk. I was on there at

2000
01:50:55.800 --> 01:50:59.840
<v Speaker 9>seven thirty and it was cold that December started to snow.

2001
01:51:01.439 --> 01:51:03.800
<v Speaker 9>And here her car pulls up. She opens the door,

2002
01:51:03.840 --> 01:51:05.960
<v Speaker 9>said good morning, brother. I said, good morning. Got in

2003
01:51:05.960 --> 01:51:11.359
<v Speaker 9>the car. She started driving toward the Pentagon. If you're

2004
01:51:11.399 --> 01:51:14.359
<v Speaker 9>familiar with the Pentagon traffic. The flow of traffic goes

2005
01:51:14.399 --> 01:51:17.039
<v Speaker 9>to the left and then to the right. She turns

2006
01:51:17.079 --> 01:51:22.399
<v Speaker 9>to the left abruptly pulls up against the fence. There

2007
01:51:22.479 --> 01:51:24.680
<v Speaker 9>was a security guard there with a tablet. He looked

2008
01:51:24.720 --> 01:51:26.880
<v Speaker 9>at her. He went like that. He looked at me.

2009
01:51:28.199 --> 01:51:30.800
<v Speaker 9>He went like it. Naturally, I went right back to him,

2010
01:51:31.800 --> 01:51:36.359
<v Speaker 9>got out of the car, fastened my coach. She reaching

2011
01:51:36.479 --> 01:51:39.680
<v Speaker 9>her person, took out her id, opened her little coat

2012
01:51:39.760 --> 01:51:44.720
<v Speaker 9>and shut jacket and she pinned her ID on her blouse.

2013
01:51:45.520 --> 01:51:50.159
<v Speaker 9>As we got in line, people from the military, people

2014
01:51:50.159 --> 01:51:53.920
<v Speaker 9>in plane clothes, all in one line, and a guard

2015
01:51:54.199 --> 01:51:56.720
<v Speaker 9>who is getting taller and taller as closer they got

2016
01:51:56.720 --> 01:52:00.520
<v Speaker 9>to him and I said, Nancy, I don't have any

2017
01:52:00.520 --> 01:52:04.399
<v Speaker 9>idea on my shirt or anyplace off. She said, just

2018
01:52:04.479 --> 01:52:07.520
<v Speaker 9>do what I do. I said, what are you going

2019
01:52:07.600 --> 01:52:09.439
<v Speaker 9>to do? She said, get back in line, will you,

2020
01:52:09.880 --> 01:52:13.079
<v Speaker 9>which I did, and she walked in front of the

2021
01:52:13.119 --> 01:52:20.720
<v Speaker 9>security guard and she opened her jacket like this, and

2022
01:52:20.800 --> 01:52:32.720
<v Speaker 9>then walk right on by him. And that put me

2023
01:52:32.760 --> 01:52:36.039
<v Speaker 9>first in line, and behind me was a military man

2024
01:52:36.199 --> 01:52:41.399
<v Speaker 9>and I hesitated. He cleared his throat. What did I do?

2025
01:52:41.960 --> 01:52:47.079
<v Speaker 9>I walked by the security guard wasn't like that, expecting

2026
01:52:47.119 --> 01:52:49.079
<v Speaker 9>to be grabbed by the next wise guy. What are

2027
01:52:49.119 --> 01:52:52.800
<v Speaker 9>you trying to do here? Nothing happened. I caught up

2028
01:52:52.800 --> 01:52:55.880
<v Speaker 9>with Nancy. She said, fine, that was very good. She said,

2029
01:52:55.880 --> 01:52:58.199
<v Speaker 9>we have one more. I said one more? What she said,

2030
01:52:58.199 --> 01:53:01.680
<v Speaker 9>one more security guard? That's sure? Nothing other lineup another

2031
01:53:01.720 --> 01:53:04.399
<v Speaker 9>security guard. I was third in line. I kept looking

2032
01:53:04.399 --> 01:53:08.520
<v Speaker 9>at my empty pocket. I was second in line. Then

2033
01:53:08.560 --> 01:53:10.479
<v Speaker 9>I was first in line. She walked in front of me,

2034
01:53:10.520 --> 01:53:13.680
<v Speaker 9>opened her jacket, walked on by. I didn't even look

2035
01:53:13.760 --> 01:53:16.880
<v Speaker 9>at his face. I just went like that and walked

2036
01:53:16.920 --> 01:53:22.199
<v Speaker 9>on by. He never stopped me. Walked down the car door,

2037
01:53:22.359 --> 01:53:25.439
<v Speaker 9>turned to the right at the very corner office that

2038
01:53:25.600 --> 01:53:28.399
<v Speaker 9>was the office part of the building that was demolished

2039
01:53:28.399 --> 01:53:33.520
<v Speaker 9>because of that plane crash some years ago. And here

2040
01:53:32.520 --> 01:53:37.479
<v Speaker 9>is an office door, no number, no description. She said,

2041
01:53:37.479 --> 01:53:39.640
<v Speaker 9>he's in there. I said, well, thank you very much.

2042
01:53:40.119 --> 01:53:42.239
<v Speaker 9>I had my hand on the doorknob. As she started

2043
01:53:42.279 --> 01:53:45.680
<v Speaker 9>to walk away. I suddenly spun around and said to her,

2044
01:53:45.680 --> 01:53:48.760
<v Speaker 9>how do I get out of here? She said, oh boy,

2045
01:53:48.920 --> 01:53:53.640
<v Speaker 9>my god, Yes, I'm investigator. She said, do the same

2046
01:53:53.680 --> 01:53:56.279
<v Speaker 9>thing is when you came in. Open your jacket, but

2047
01:53:56.399 --> 01:53:58.720
<v Speaker 9>make sure you get behind someone. I said, okay, and

2048
01:53:59.039 --> 01:54:03.239
<v Speaker 9>it worked second time. Now him my hands on the doorknob.

2049
01:54:03.319 --> 01:54:06.800
<v Speaker 9>I opened the door slowly straight in front of me,

2050
01:54:06.840 --> 01:54:11.399
<v Speaker 9>two flat desks, two flat top desks, two Air Force officers.

2051
01:54:11.479 --> 01:54:15.439
<v Speaker 9>Riding in the far corner. To the right was a

2052
01:54:15.479 --> 01:54:19.600
<v Speaker 9>sergeant Air Force sergeant here was busy typing. I cleared

2053
01:54:19.600 --> 01:54:22.319
<v Speaker 9>my throat two or three times. They paid me no

2054
01:54:22.560 --> 01:54:26.239
<v Speaker 9>mind whatsoever, paid no attention. I opened the door behind me,

2055
01:54:26.640 --> 01:54:30.920
<v Speaker 9>shut it again. They didn't know I was there. And

2056
01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:35.640
<v Speaker 9>then my attention was distracted when I saw something moved

2057
01:54:36.000 --> 01:54:40.640
<v Speaker 9>to my right, behind me, and here is this man

2058
01:54:40.840 --> 01:54:43.479
<v Speaker 9>coming toward me, six foot tall, about one hundred and

2059
01:54:43.520 --> 01:54:48.920
<v Speaker 9>eighty five pounds, soft wavy brown hair, brown eyes, with

2060
01:54:49.039 --> 01:54:52.720
<v Speaker 9>his hands stretched out. Whose picture I've been caring for

2061
01:54:52.800 --> 01:54:57.880
<v Speaker 9>several years around the world. Here's a man from another planet.

2062
01:54:58.680 --> 01:55:01.399
<v Speaker 9>He said, hello, Frank. How did he know my name?

2063
01:55:05.439 --> 01:55:09.439
<v Speaker 9>We had a marvelous half hour conversation. I'll show you

2064
01:55:09.520 --> 01:55:13.039
<v Speaker 9>his picture on the screen in a few moments. I said,

2065
01:55:13.039 --> 01:55:15.880
<v Speaker 9>where are you from? He said, I'm from your planet

2066
01:55:16.760 --> 01:55:19.680
<v Speaker 9>that your Bible calls the Morning and the evening Star.

2067
01:55:19.840 --> 01:55:23.920
<v Speaker 9>I said, Venus. He said, yes, the inside of Venus.

2068
01:55:24.920 --> 01:55:27.800
<v Speaker 9>I said, how did you get here? He said, I

2069
01:55:27.840 --> 01:55:32.359
<v Speaker 9>came in a saucer craft, which is called Victor One. Now,

2070
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<v Speaker 9>speaking of Victor one, I have a beautiful painting, a

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01:55:35.760 --> 01:55:40.560
<v Speaker 9>big poster of Victor one that I want every one

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01:55:40.640 --> 01:55:42.640
<v Speaker 9>of you to take a look at when you go

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01:55:42.720 --> 01:55:45.600
<v Speaker 9>to my table. And there's another big chart which is

2074
01:55:45.640 --> 01:55:48.960
<v Speaker 9>the starship, which is presently one hundred miles in a

2075
01:55:49.039 --> 01:55:52.399
<v Speaker 9>fixed orbit. I want you to take one of those

2076
01:55:52.479 --> 01:55:55.119
<v Speaker 9>either one of those free of charge. Now, what do

2077
01:55:55.159 --> 01:56:02.000
<v Speaker 9>you think about that? As long as they last? Take them,

2078
01:56:02.000 --> 01:56:07.239
<v Speaker 9>as long as they last. Okay, Now, I said, what

2079
01:56:07.399 --> 01:56:10.560
<v Speaker 9>is your name? He said, command a valiant Thor. He said,

2080
01:56:10.600 --> 01:56:15.720
<v Speaker 9>you call me val I said, thank you. And how

2081
01:56:15.720 --> 01:56:17.720
<v Speaker 9>long have you been here? Three and a half years,

2082
01:56:18.199 --> 01:56:23.640
<v Speaker 9>this coming March sixteenth of nineteen sixty. And what have

2083
01:56:23.720 --> 01:56:26.439
<v Speaker 9>you been doing here? He said, I've been conversing with

2084
01:56:26.560 --> 01:56:31.399
<v Speaker 9>the President of the United States, Dwight the Eisenhower and

2085
01:56:31.479 --> 01:56:36.319
<v Speaker 9>mister Nixon, who I met personally some years afterward, and

2086
01:56:36.439 --> 01:56:40.239
<v Speaker 9>several members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He said,

2087
01:56:40.279 --> 01:56:47.319
<v Speaker 9>I brought a gift for them, and this gift was

2088
01:56:47.359 --> 01:56:49.560
<v Speaker 9>in my hands, and I looked into the eyes of

2089
01:56:49.600 --> 01:56:57.880
<v Speaker 9>mister Eisenhower. I said, this information will do away with sickness, disease,

2090
01:56:58.439 --> 01:57:01.600
<v Speaker 9>and even death in the United States, and then you

2091
01:57:01.680 --> 01:57:05.119
<v Speaker 9>can share it with other nations. Gave it to the President.

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01:57:06.079 --> 01:57:13.079
<v Speaker 9>President Eisenhower received this information. It took them over one

2093
01:57:13.159 --> 01:57:16.520
<v Speaker 9>year to get back to the commander. He was there,

2094
01:57:17.159 --> 01:57:20.800
<v Speaker 9>yest for three years at the Pentagon, and one year

2095
01:57:20.920 --> 01:57:24.680
<v Speaker 9>later the President came back, met with the Commander again

2096
01:57:25.520 --> 01:57:29.720
<v Speaker 9>with this information in his hands. Shaking his head. He said,

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01:57:29.760 --> 01:57:33.840
<v Speaker 9>I'm sorry, we cannot accept this information because it will

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01:57:33.920 --> 01:57:40.039
<v Speaker 9>ruin the economy of the United States. I said, in

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01:57:40.119 --> 01:57:42.239
<v Speaker 9>other words, that drug Trust would have to take the

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01:57:42.279 --> 01:57:49.520
<v Speaker 9>gas pipe, and he agreed, and I said, you've been

2101
01:57:49.560 --> 01:57:51.800
<v Speaker 9>at the Pentagon for three and a half years. He said, yes.

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01:57:52.760 --> 01:57:56.800
<v Speaker 9>I'm happy to announce today that you will see the

2103
01:57:57.000 --> 01:58:00.520
<v Speaker 9>entire story, plus more information that took He's at the

2104
01:58:00.560 --> 01:58:04.720
<v Speaker 9>Pentagon while Commando Val was there. Because this book has

2105
01:58:04.760 --> 01:58:07.840
<v Speaker 9>been scripted for a major motion picture, and we're hoping

2106
01:58:07.880 --> 01:58:15.199
<v Speaker 9>that he'll be shot next year. And guess who wants

2107
01:58:15.199 --> 01:58:21.520
<v Speaker 9>to play the lead, John Travoltas. So you pray that

2108
01:58:21.560 --> 01:58:23.760
<v Speaker 9>we get the budget all right and that'll go into

2109
01:58:23.800 --> 01:58:28.279
<v Speaker 9>a production by this time next year, the commander told

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01:58:28.359 --> 01:58:32.279
<v Speaker 9>me things that I never knew concerning my own private life.

2111
01:58:32.760 --> 01:58:37.279
<v Speaker 9>I had to check with my parents and grandparents and

2112
01:58:37.359 --> 01:58:39.680
<v Speaker 9>in order to check the validity of his statements, and

2113
01:58:39.760 --> 01:58:42.720
<v Speaker 9>they were all true. He told me things that we're

2114
01:58:42.760 --> 01:58:46.079
<v Speaker 9>going to come to pass in the United States, including

2115
01:58:46.399 --> 01:58:52.079
<v Speaker 9>two thousand and seven, he wrote a book called Outwitting Tomorrow.

2116
01:58:53.159 --> 01:58:59.079
<v Speaker 9>Outwitting Tomorrow is a fantastic treatise of lessons for people

2117
01:58:59.479 --> 01:59:02.000
<v Speaker 9>who want to know the whole truth. We got these

2118
01:59:02.000 --> 01:59:03.920
<v Speaker 9>out there at the book table too. It's called out

2119
01:59:03.920 --> 01:59:10.479
<v Speaker 9>Winning Tomorrow. Isn't that a title? Now? After the thirty

2120
01:59:10.520 --> 01:59:15.399
<v Speaker 9>minutes was up, I did my thing, went out. I

2121
01:59:15.439 --> 01:59:17.479
<v Speaker 9>was picked up by a friend of Nancy Warren and

2122
01:59:17.560 --> 01:59:22.159
<v Speaker 9>driven back to my hotel. Before I left the hotel

2123
01:59:22.239 --> 01:59:27.000
<v Speaker 9>that Monday morning, the pastor and his assistant were helping

2124
01:59:27.039 --> 01:59:30.840
<v Speaker 9>me get together my stuff for the airport. A knock

2125
01:59:30.920 --> 01:59:40.920
<v Speaker 9>came at the door. Two well dressed gentlemen, no smiles,

2126
01:59:41.760 --> 01:59:46.279
<v Speaker 9>all business, said to me, are you doctor Strange? I said, strangers,

2127
01:59:46.319 --> 01:59:49.720
<v Speaker 9>here we go again, and.

2128
01:59:49.720 --> 01:59:52.600
<v Speaker 11>That it is time that world governments officially ignowed.

2129
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<v Speaker 9>The marks were as follows, word for word, strangers, if

2130
02:00:00.800 --> 02:00:06.359
<v Speaker 9>you you your reputation. You will not repeat anything that

2131
02:00:06.439 --> 02:00:10.640
<v Speaker 9>took place with you on this pastor morning. I said,

2132
02:00:11.399 --> 02:00:13.520
<v Speaker 9>what are you talking about? Took place?

2133
02:00:14.000 --> 02:00:14.319
<v Speaker 8>Leave me?

2134
02:00:14.359 --> 02:00:17.960
<v Speaker 9>At that time I was not to tell anybody, but

2135
02:00:18.119 --> 02:00:32.600
<v Speaker 9>he said, I heard about people like this. I want

2136
02:00:32.600 --> 02:00:42.319
<v Speaker 9>to talk about picking your pocket? Where was I? The

2137
02:00:42.359 --> 02:00:46.479
<v Speaker 9>two guys identified themselves of Air Force Intelligence. They didn't

2138
02:00:46.479 --> 02:00:49.720
<v Speaker 9>look too intelligent, I'm sorry to say. At first I

2139
02:00:49.760 --> 02:00:51.560
<v Speaker 9>thought they were from the CIA. You know what that

2140
02:00:51.680 --> 02:00:55.159
<v Speaker 9>organization is. That that organization is, that's the Confusion and

2141
02:00:55.279 --> 02:00:58.840
<v Speaker 9>Action Group. But then then I thought there were FBI.

2142
02:00:59.000 --> 02:01:02.039
<v Speaker 9>That's a fraternal brother hood of battalions. There wasn't there either,

2143
02:01:02.520 --> 02:01:09.039
<v Speaker 9>So anyhow, I said, okay. I didn't say a worried

2144
02:01:09.079 --> 02:01:12.199
<v Speaker 9>about this experience to anyone that I wrote a book on.

2145
02:01:16.039 --> 02:01:18.079
<v Speaker 9>When I went back to Brooklyn, New York to be

2146
02:01:18.199 --> 02:01:21.880
<v Speaker 9>with my dad my mom. My dad greached me at

2147
02:01:21.880 --> 02:01:28.039
<v Speaker 9>the front door, and he was from Italy, so was mom.

2148
02:01:28.920 --> 02:01:31.279
<v Speaker 9>I lost both of them a few years ago, one

2149
02:01:31.319 --> 02:01:36.159
<v Speaker 9>at ninety four and one at ninety three. My dad

2150
02:01:36.199 --> 02:01:37.840
<v Speaker 9>looks at me, he said, oh, friend, come, I'm going

2151
02:01:37.880 --> 02:01:39.600
<v Speaker 9>to pray for you. First, do you come here with

2152
02:01:39.600 --> 02:01:43.880
<v Speaker 9>a flying of sausages? I didn't know how that sausage.

2153
02:01:43.920 --> 02:01:46.560
<v Speaker 9>And now you come with a man from another world. Mommy,

2154
02:01:46.600 --> 02:01:48.600
<v Speaker 9>I'm going to pray for you, and he did. He

2155
02:01:48.680 --> 02:01:56.760
<v Speaker 9>prayed for me. One day after the Commander said he'd

2156
02:01:56.800 --> 02:02:00.000
<v Speaker 9>meet me in one year. One year to the day,

2157
02:02:00.279 --> 02:02:03.760
<v Speaker 9>March sixteenth, at eight o'clock in the morning, a voice

2158
02:02:03.800 --> 02:02:05.960
<v Speaker 9>comes out of the back of my car and Beverly

2159
02:02:06.039 --> 02:02:08.680
<v Speaker 9>Hills are driving to have a meeting with an attorney.

2160
02:02:09.000 --> 02:02:11.079
<v Speaker 9>He said, hello, Frank, how are you. I nearly ran

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02:02:11.119 --> 02:02:14.960
<v Speaker 9>a red light. It was the commander. I said, why

2162
02:02:14.960 --> 02:02:17.600
<v Speaker 9>can't you just come in the front seat, which he

2163
02:02:17.640 --> 02:02:22.359
<v Speaker 9>did later, and we had wonderful fellowship and communion From

2164
02:02:22.359 --> 02:02:26.119
<v Speaker 9>that day to this day. I was invited to visit

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<v Speaker 9>Victor One, that beautiful spacecraft of his, in a place

2166
02:02:31.199 --> 02:02:35.319
<v Speaker 9>called San Filippi down in Mexico, and my meeting on

2167
02:02:35.800 --> 02:02:39.119
<v Speaker 9>board that was at his invitation because he wanted me

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02:02:39.199 --> 02:02:43.000
<v Speaker 9>to come down to meet with him on board the craft,

2169
02:02:43.119 --> 02:02:48.159
<v Speaker 9>my first visit for a specific reason. Back up, three

2170
02:02:48.239 --> 02:02:52.560
<v Speaker 9>days my phone rings. A man on the telephone says,

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02:02:53.399 --> 02:02:55.479
<v Speaker 9>this is Robert Kennedy. I'd like to talk to you.

2172
02:02:55.640 --> 02:02:58.359
<v Speaker 9>I said, this is who, I said, youse some kind

2173
02:02:58.359 --> 02:03:00.760
<v Speaker 9>of wise guy. And then all of a sudden, I

2174
02:03:00.800 --> 02:03:04.520
<v Speaker 9>was convinced it was Robert Kennedy. He said, what is this,

2175
02:03:04.600 --> 02:03:07.720
<v Speaker 9>all this stuff about this guy from another planet? Is

2176
02:03:07.760 --> 02:03:10.079
<v Speaker 9>this real or is this a bunch of crap? I said, no,

2177
02:03:10.119 --> 02:03:13.119
<v Speaker 9>it's no crap. I'm sorry to tell you. I'm happy

2178
02:03:13.159 --> 02:03:15.960
<v Speaker 9>to tell you I mean And he said I want

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02:03:15.960 --> 02:03:18.199
<v Speaker 9>to see you. I said, fine, why don't you come

2180
02:03:18.279 --> 02:03:21.000
<v Speaker 9>right over to my office. I understand you're on the

2181
02:03:21.279 --> 02:03:23.239
<v Speaker 9>on the East coast. Come on and visit me. And

2182
02:03:23.279 --> 02:03:26.520
<v Speaker 9>he said okay, and he hung up. Three days two

2183
02:03:26.600 --> 02:03:32.640
<v Speaker 9>days later, this big black limousine, flanked by highway patrol

2184
02:03:32.720 --> 02:03:36.960
<v Speaker 9>officers pulls into my street. My neighbors looking through the curtains. Boy,

2185
02:03:37.000 --> 02:03:42.359
<v Speaker 9>they got frank Now, and who's in there but mister

2186
02:03:42.399 --> 02:03:47.239
<v Speaker 9>Kennedy and his aides. They came in, no handshake, no greeting,

2187
02:03:47.399 --> 02:03:50.439
<v Speaker 9>just cold can I don't think I've ever message a

2188
02:03:50.520 --> 02:03:53.920
<v Speaker 9>cold person. He said to me, all right, now, let's

2189
02:03:53.920 --> 02:03:56.239
<v Speaker 9>have the lowdown on this guy from I said, don't

2190
02:03:56.279 --> 02:03:58.520
<v Speaker 9>call him a guy. I said, his name is Commander

2191
02:03:58.600 --> 02:04:00.760
<v Speaker 9>Valiant Thor. He said, all right, I'd be that as

2192
02:04:00.760 --> 02:04:07.000
<v Speaker 9>it may. He said, I want to ask him two questions.

2193
02:04:07.039 --> 02:04:11.079
<v Speaker 9>I said, yes, continue. What are these questions may I ask?

2194
02:04:11.439 --> 02:04:13.239
<v Speaker 9>He said, I want to ask him number one, who

2195
02:04:13.279 --> 02:04:16.359
<v Speaker 9>the hell really killed my brother? And number two, I'm

2196
02:04:16.399 --> 02:04:19.079
<v Speaker 9>running for the presidency this year. What are my chances?

2197
02:04:19.479 --> 02:04:21.960
<v Speaker 9>I said, okay, will you write those questions down? You

2198
02:04:22.000 --> 02:04:24.640
<v Speaker 9>can write these questions. He said, I don't write. I

2199
02:04:24.680 --> 02:04:27.720
<v Speaker 9>don't write. I said, well, this conversation is closed, then,

2200
02:04:28.159 --> 02:04:34.039
<v Speaker 9>big shot, but he finally condescended, went into my office,

2201
02:04:34.119 --> 02:04:36.640
<v Speaker 9>wrote up the questions, gave me the envelope. He said,

2202
02:04:36.680 --> 02:04:39.960
<v Speaker 9>make sure he gets these now. I said, okay, no, goodbye,

2203
02:04:40.039 --> 02:04:45.479
<v Speaker 9>no drop dead, nothing. He just left. And then I

2204
02:04:45.520 --> 02:04:47.439
<v Speaker 9>was invited by the commander to meet him at the

2205
02:04:47.479 --> 02:04:51.199
<v Speaker 9>airport in San Diego. He met me with a car.

2206
02:04:51.479 --> 02:04:54.640
<v Speaker 9>We drove to San Philippi, way down south and south

2207
02:04:54.680 --> 02:04:59.600
<v Speaker 9>of Tijuana, and I saw the spacecraft sitting on the

2208
02:04:59.640 --> 02:05:02.720
<v Speaker 9>water as you'll see in the poster that you're going

2209
02:05:02.800 --> 02:05:06.119
<v Speaker 9>to receive today. I was taken by boat with the

2210
02:05:06.159 --> 02:05:09.680
<v Speaker 9>commander to the ship. I'm speaking as quickly as possible

2211
02:05:09.720 --> 02:05:13.399
<v Speaker 9>now about this, and here we are sitting in the ship.

2212
02:05:13.439 --> 02:05:16.960
<v Speaker 9>He said, now you go go through that room, take

2213
02:05:17.000 --> 02:05:20.000
<v Speaker 9>all your clothes off, your shoes, everything off. Walk through

2214
02:05:20.039 --> 02:05:24.560
<v Speaker 9>that outfit, and at the other end of the room,

2215
02:05:24.760 --> 02:05:28.159
<v Speaker 9>you'll be giving a white coverall and boots, very similar

2216
02:05:28.159 --> 02:05:30.439
<v Speaker 9>to the one I showed you with the Pentagon. The

2217
02:05:30.479 --> 02:05:32.920
<v Speaker 9>one he showed me at the Pentagon was all one piece.

2218
02:05:33.359 --> 02:05:36.439
<v Speaker 9>They ran his hand after putting the two pieces of

2219
02:05:36.479 --> 02:05:39.000
<v Speaker 9>garments together, ran his hand up to his neck. I

2220
02:05:39.039 --> 02:05:42.439
<v Speaker 9>could not find the opening. They just fused together. And

2221
02:05:42.479 --> 02:05:45.199
<v Speaker 9>then he said that the Pentagon. He said, this is

2222
02:05:45.239 --> 02:05:48.600
<v Speaker 9>the outfit that your government has been testing for quite

2223
02:05:48.640 --> 02:05:51.640
<v Speaker 9>a long time. He said. They gave it the acid test.

2224
02:05:51.720 --> 02:05:54.680
<v Speaker 9>The acid rolled off and cut a hole in the floor.

2225
02:05:55.239 --> 02:05:59.720
<v Speaker 9>They fired shots at it. No penetration whatsoever. They even

2226
02:05:59.760 --> 02:06:02.880
<v Speaker 9>tried the experimental laser at that time. He said it

2227
02:06:02.920 --> 02:06:06.520
<v Speaker 9>didn't even warm the service. Sometime later, after my book

2228
02:06:06.640 --> 02:06:09.000
<v Speaker 9>was published, Stranger with the Pentagon, I appeared on the

2229
02:06:09.079 --> 02:06:11.600
<v Speaker 9>Art Link Letter Show. And when I told about this garment,

2230
02:06:12.000 --> 02:06:14.079
<v Speaker 9>you have no idea how many calls I got from

2231
02:06:14.079 --> 02:06:18.439
<v Speaker 9>the garment industry in New York. So here we are

2232
02:06:18.479 --> 02:06:22.279
<v Speaker 9>on the ship. I'm introduced to the commander's wife. His

2233
02:06:22.520 --> 02:06:26.159
<v Speaker 9>name is Dina. His daughter's name is val Dina. Not

2234
02:06:26.199 --> 02:06:30.760
<v Speaker 9>a beautiful combination. And I met Vice Commander Don who

2235
02:06:30.760 --> 02:06:33.840
<v Speaker 9>comes to my office quite often. And this beautiful young

2236
02:06:33.920 --> 02:06:38.640
<v Speaker 9>lady teal, red haired, green eyes, beautiful complexion. And I'm

2237
02:06:38.680 --> 02:06:42.720
<v Speaker 9>sitting in this kind of a living room and exchanging

2238
02:06:42.800 --> 02:06:48.000
<v Speaker 9>conversation with them, very beautiful people, and they make you

2239
02:06:48.039 --> 02:06:51.439
<v Speaker 9>feel at home. And those of you, like some who

2240
02:06:51.760 --> 02:06:55.800
<v Speaker 9>belong to our organization, the National Investigations Committee, and those

2241
02:06:55.840 --> 02:06:58.520
<v Speaker 9>who attend our meeting, the Inner Circle, which some of

2242
02:06:58.560 --> 02:07:01.760
<v Speaker 9>you are here today, they have actually had the privilege

2243
02:07:01.800 --> 02:07:05.760
<v Speaker 9>of going on board Victor one and enjoying the pleasures

2244
02:07:05.800 --> 02:07:07.920
<v Speaker 9>of that ship, which is now parked at the edge

2245
02:07:07.920 --> 02:07:11.199
<v Speaker 9>of Lake Mead in Nevada. And here we are sitting

2246
02:07:11.239 --> 02:07:14.000
<v Speaker 9>in the living room and all of a sudden, I

2247
02:07:14.039 --> 02:07:18.000
<v Speaker 9>have to go to the bathroom. Well that was not

2248
02:07:18.039 --> 02:07:20.359
<v Speaker 9>too unusual, because I go to the bathroom once in

2249
02:07:20.399 --> 02:07:31.960
<v Speaker 9>a while. And then I'm wondering what's going to happen next,

2250
02:07:32.840 --> 02:07:34.840
<v Speaker 9>because I don't voice that I have to go to

2251
02:07:34.880 --> 02:07:41.039
<v Speaker 9>the bathroom. Vice command to your says doctor Frank, Go

2252
02:07:41.079 --> 02:07:43.840
<v Speaker 9>and stand in front of that door. There. It'll slide

2253
02:07:43.840 --> 02:07:48.680
<v Speaker 9>to one side, you know. And I did, and I

2254
02:07:48.760 --> 02:07:53.479
<v Speaker 9>run inside that beautifully appointed bathroom. The door slid shut

2255
02:07:53.520 --> 02:07:58.880
<v Speaker 9>behind me. I sat down. I took care of my business,

2256
02:07:59.560 --> 02:08:02.960
<v Speaker 9>and when I I was finished, I nearly had a seizure.

2257
02:08:04.840 --> 02:08:09.439
<v Speaker 9>I could not find any toilet paper. I said, oh

2258
02:08:09.479 --> 02:08:17.359
<v Speaker 9>my God. I prayed in English, I prayed in Italian, Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, Korean.

2259
02:08:19.560 --> 02:08:24.359
<v Speaker 9>I couldn't find it. Finally, in my mind I hear

2260
02:08:24.439 --> 02:08:29.600
<v Speaker 9>the voice of vice command to tell She says, Honey,

2261
02:08:30.520 --> 02:08:33.279
<v Speaker 9>do you see those three buttons? Steer right? I said yes.

2262
02:08:34.039 --> 02:08:38.000
<v Speaker 9>She said, press the top button first, the second one down.

2263
02:08:38.199 --> 02:08:41.239
<v Speaker 9>Pressed that, and then finally pressed the third one. Well

2264
02:08:41.279 --> 02:08:43.359
<v Speaker 9>before I pressed that, I didn't know whether I was

2265
02:08:43.399 --> 02:08:45.600
<v Speaker 9>going to be ejected and dipped in the ocean AWA,

2266
02:08:48.000 --> 02:08:52.399
<v Speaker 9>but I pressed it. I said, thank you Lord, and

2267
02:08:52.520 --> 02:08:55.479
<v Speaker 9>a blest of hot air. I thought I was going

2268
02:08:55.479 --> 02:08:59.680
<v Speaker 9>to go flying to the ceiling, and after that came down.

2269
02:08:59.720 --> 02:09:02.119
<v Speaker 9>I put the second month. That was about half speed,

2270
02:09:02.479 --> 02:09:04.279
<v Speaker 9>and by the time I got to the third button,

2271
02:09:05.079 --> 02:09:13.640
<v Speaker 9>I felt powdered and changed like a little baby. I

2272
02:09:13.720 --> 02:09:24.479
<v Speaker 9>got up, got into my coveralls again, walked out. The

2273
02:09:24.520 --> 02:09:27.520
<v Speaker 9>door shut behind me. I sat down. No one said

2274
02:09:27.520 --> 02:09:31.640
<v Speaker 9>a word. The Vice Commander Teel said, did everything come

2275
02:09:31.680 --> 02:09:34.800
<v Speaker 9>out all right? I said yes, yes, thank you, thank

2276
02:09:34.840 --> 02:09:43.319
<v Speaker 9>you very much well. We had fantastic information come from

2277
02:09:43.319 --> 02:09:49.119
<v Speaker 9>the Commander, which is in our monthly newsletter called the Spacely.

2278
02:09:49.319 --> 02:09:53.479
<v Speaker 9>We also had applications on my table. The space Spacely

2279
02:09:53.600 --> 02:09:58.600
<v Speaker 9>comes out once a month. He gives us information which

2280
02:09:58.640 --> 02:10:01.640
<v Speaker 9>we pass on to our membership. He gives them a

2281
02:10:01.680 --> 02:10:05.239
<v Speaker 9>personal message from months to month, and some people when

2282
02:10:05.239 --> 02:10:07.439
<v Speaker 9>they read the message, they say, how did he know that?

2283
02:10:07.960 --> 02:10:11.439
<v Speaker 9>But you'd be surprised what they know. Now. Before I

2284
02:10:11.560 --> 02:10:17.239
<v Speaker 9>leave this story, we're having an Inner Circle meeting on

2285
02:10:17.319 --> 02:10:20.640
<v Speaker 9>the third and fourth of next month of June at

2286
02:10:20.680 --> 02:10:23.640
<v Speaker 9>the Rio Hotel in Las Vegas. That'll be a twenty

2287
02:10:23.720 --> 02:10:27.399
<v Speaker 9>ninth meeting of the Inner Circle. I'm sorry to say

2288
02:10:27.399 --> 02:10:30.079
<v Speaker 9>the Inner Circle membership is not for everyone. Only those

2289
02:10:30.119 --> 02:10:34.319
<v Speaker 9>that are spiritually advanced to appreciate the spiritual teachings that

2290
02:10:34.359 --> 02:10:37.000
<v Speaker 9>are given by the Commander. If you're interested in that,

2291
02:10:37.279 --> 02:10:41.520
<v Speaker 9>take one of those brochures out there the information contact me.

2292
02:10:41.640 --> 02:10:44.800
<v Speaker 9>There still may be time for you to attend. Will

2293
02:10:44.880 --> 02:10:48.840
<v Speaker 9>someone come up and erase this white section please, because

2294
02:10:48.840 --> 02:10:55.760
<v Speaker 9>I'm going to go right into the slides With Robert Kennedy.

2295
02:10:56.319 --> 02:10:58.880
<v Speaker 9>The reason he invited me to the spacecraft was to

2296
02:10:58.880 --> 02:11:02.159
<v Speaker 9>see something awful. We were sitting in this living room.

2297
02:11:02.239 --> 02:11:05.159
<v Speaker 9>He said, please follow me. We went into a special

2298
02:11:05.239 --> 02:11:07.319
<v Speaker 9>room that had a wide screen that looked like a

2299
02:11:07.359 --> 02:11:12.880
<v Speaker 9>three D presentation. The lights came on. The scene was

2300
02:11:12.960 --> 02:11:17.840
<v Speaker 9>the back portion of the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles.

2301
02:11:18.439 --> 02:11:22.000
<v Speaker 9>Bobby Kennedy is walking along, Rosie Greer right behind him.

2302
02:11:22.319 --> 02:11:27.359
<v Speaker 9>Several hundreds of people packing in that room and suddenly

2303
02:11:27.680 --> 02:11:32.760
<v Speaker 9>shuts ring out. Bobby Kennedy went down. I looked at

2304
02:11:32.760 --> 02:11:37.640
<v Speaker 9>the commander. He had tears in the He said, I

2305
02:11:37.720 --> 02:11:41.239
<v Speaker 9>gave this man the information he wanted, but he didn't

2306
02:11:41.239 --> 02:11:48.840
<v Speaker 9>follow my advice. I told him, don't go anywhere near

2307
02:11:48.880 --> 02:11:52.960
<v Speaker 9>the election this year. Tried in four years and you'll

2308
02:11:53.000 --> 02:11:56.439
<v Speaker 9>probably win. But how many times have you known of

2309
02:11:56.560 --> 02:11:59.359
<v Speaker 9>people who you've given advice to and they don't take

2310
02:11:59.399 --> 02:12:04.479
<v Speaker 9>your advice and they have to suffer the consequences. And

2311
02:12:04.520 --> 02:12:09.119
<v Speaker 9>I'll say one more thing, Sir Hans Arhan is sitting

2312
02:12:09.159 --> 02:12:12.880
<v Speaker 9>in prison for something he didn't do. If you want

2313
02:12:12.920 --> 02:12:15.560
<v Speaker 9>to know who really shot him, you talk to me privately.

2314
02:12:16.600 --> 02:12:20.880
<v Speaker 9>I said to val who was responsible for the shooting

2315
02:12:20.920 --> 02:12:26.119
<v Speaker 9>of the President of the United States? He told he

2316
02:12:26.199 --> 02:12:28.560
<v Speaker 9>told whom was? I'm not allowed to say that in public.

2317
02:12:28.560 --> 02:12:30.560
<v Speaker 9>But I'll tell you privately if you ask me later.

2318
02:12:32.079 --> 02:12:37.079
<v Speaker 9>So that was a very sad incident that overshadowed my

2319
02:12:37.159 --> 02:12:40.640
<v Speaker 9>first visit to the beautiful victor Ie. Make sure you

2320
02:12:40.680 --> 02:12:43.680
<v Speaker 9>get yourself a copy of that outside all right quickly.

2321
02:12:43.760 --> 02:12:46.800
<v Speaker 9>Now this is the Andromeda Galaxy. Some months ago I

2322
02:12:46.840 --> 02:12:48.960
<v Speaker 9>was invited to one of our churches in San Juan,

2323
02:12:49.000 --> 02:12:52.319
<v Speaker 9>Puerto Rico. I was privileged to see the largest telescope

2324
02:12:52.359 --> 02:12:57.159
<v Speaker 9>in the world. I met with some city people and

2325
02:12:57.199 --> 02:13:00.600
<v Speaker 9>they said, we've been receiving strange signals from out of

2326
02:13:00.640 --> 02:13:05.199
<v Speaker 9>the Andromeda Galaxy for many years, but we, after deciphering them,

2327
02:13:05.600 --> 02:13:08.600
<v Speaker 9>were not allowed to give the information to the public.

2328
02:13:09.239 --> 02:13:14.359
<v Speaker 9>We were forbidden because we know who signs our checks.

2329
02:13:14.439 --> 02:13:18.159
<v Speaker 9>I said, that's fine, thank you very much. Here's the planet,

2330
02:13:18.199 --> 02:13:23.960
<v Speaker 9>what all right? Right down there is the Outrigger Hotel

2331
02:13:24.039 --> 02:13:28.159
<v Speaker 9>someplace around there. So this is as a scene from space.

2332
02:13:29.479 --> 02:13:34.479
<v Speaker 9>This is a picture taken in New Mexico by Paul

2333
02:13:34.600 --> 02:13:37.640
<v Speaker 9>Via some years ago. As this craft came closer to

2334
02:13:37.720 --> 02:13:40.800
<v Speaker 9>the ground, you can see it opened. The shell on

2335
02:13:40.960 --> 02:13:45.800
<v Speaker 9>top open, revealing a set of porthole porthole windows. There

2336
02:13:45.840 --> 02:13:49.840
<v Speaker 9>it is as it started leaving the area. This is

2337
02:13:50.159 --> 02:13:54.399
<v Speaker 9>on the right shoulder. This ufo up here on the

2338
02:13:54.479 --> 02:13:59.039
<v Speaker 9>right shoulder of this picture here, which is hanging at

2339
02:13:59.039 --> 02:14:04.319
<v Speaker 9>the Sistine Chapel in Rome. Unusual. This is a craft

2340
02:14:04.319 --> 02:14:08.479
<v Speaker 9>that came down in Australia some years ago, and oddly enough,

2341
02:14:08.800 --> 02:14:12.319
<v Speaker 9>about thirty days after all these sheep who ate the

2342
02:14:12.359 --> 02:14:18.520
<v Speaker 9>grass where the ship had landed died reasons unknown. This

2343
02:14:18.760 --> 02:14:24.159
<v Speaker 9>is upside down. Nevertheless, it was taken in Riverside, California.

2344
02:14:24.760 --> 02:14:29.880
<v Speaker 9>There it is again taken by doctor Daniel Fry. This

2345
02:14:30.159 --> 02:14:33.680
<v Speaker 9>is a close up of one of the famous pictures

2346
02:14:34.079 --> 02:14:41.039
<v Speaker 9>that was allegedly taken by who knows who who right

2347
02:14:41.399 --> 02:14:45.439
<v Speaker 9>Billy Myers. I have had experts look at some of

2348
02:14:45.479 --> 02:14:48.840
<v Speaker 9>these pictures in Japan the negatives, and the information we

2349
02:14:48.920 --> 02:14:51.880
<v Speaker 9>got back is that these pictures are absolutely one hundred

2350
02:14:51.920 --> 02:14:52.880
<v Speaker 9>percent true.

2351
02:14:53.439 --> 02:14:56.600
<v Speaker 11>And that it is time that world government's officially I knowed.

2352
02:15:00.159 --> 02:15:05.199
<v Speaker 9>Craft. Very seldom do you find UFOs that are photographed

2353
02:15:05.199 --> 02:15:08.640
<v Speaker 9>in formation or in pairs. There's another shot of the

2354
02:15:08.680 --> 02:15:13.720
<v Speaker 9>Billy Myers series, again two of them taken. Another one

2355
02:15:13.840 --> 02:15:19.640
<v Speaker 9>of very strange elongated time. Here's one at a distance

2356
02:15:21.119 --> 02:15:23.119
<v Speaker 9>close up. Do you think people would panic if they

2357
02:15:23.119 --> 02:15:29.079
<v Speaker 9>saw this? Some people would don't you agree, But none

2358
02:15:29.119 --> 02:15:33.640
<v Speaker 9>of you here today. I'm sure all right, I'm going

2359
02:15:33.680 --> 02:15:38.119
<v Speaker 9>to rush through these faults. Now we're going to go

2360
02:15:38.159 --> 02:15:41.960
<v Speaker 9>into Comoran. This is the area not too far from Jerusalem.

2361
02:15:42.199 --> 02:15:45.920
<v Speaker 9>It's called the Comron Mountain area where the Dead Sea

2362
02:15:45.960 --> 02:15:50.039
<v Speaker 9>scurolls were located. As the story goes, in nineteen forty seven,

2363
02:15:50.079 --> 02:15:56.520
<v Speaker 9>a young lad was chasing after his uncle's goats, and

2364
02:15:56.600 --> 02:15:59.399
<v Speaker 9>one of the goats got away, and he was going

2365
02:15:59.439 --> 02:16:01.479
<v Speaker 9>to catch hell unless he get brought old and goats

2366
02:16:01.479 --> 02:16:07.039
<v Speaker 9>home again. Nevertheless, he found large jars. This lad after

2367
02:16:07.079 --> 02:16:12.920
<v Speaker 9>throwing stones in an open cave, and something didn't sound right,

2368
02:16:12.960 --> 02:16:15.520
<v Speaker 9>so we climbed up there. He discovered the jars, and

2369
02:16:15.560 --> 02:16:17.640
<v Speaker 9>he pulled out the jars. And these are some of

2370
02:16:17.640 --> 02:16:21.079
<v Speaker 9>the fragments that are now laid out in the basement.

2371
02:16:21.399 --> 02:16:25.000
<v Speaker 9>In a secret compartment in the city of Jerusalem, they

2372
02:16:25.000 --> 02:16:27.279
<v Speaker 9>have found these Dead Sea scrolls. This is some of

2373
02:16:27.319 --> 02:16:32.040
<v Speaker 9>the community where they believe the scrolls were written in

2374
02:16:32.079 --> 02:16:35.600
<v Speaker 9>the Kumaran Mountains. These are some fragments. I'm showing you

2375
02:16:35.680 --> 02:16:39.000
<v Speaker 9>this for a purpose. They made one horrible mistake. They

2376
02:16:39.079 --> 02:16:44.840
<v Speaker 9>violated every law of scriptural interpretation and revelation. Instead of

2377
02:16:45.040 --> 02:16:48.639
<v Speaker 9>translating all the words that they found in the Dead

2378
02:16:48.680 --> 02:16:52.920
<v Speaker 9>Sea scrolls. You see the empty spaces, they filled them

2379
02:16:53.000 --> 02:16:55.600
<v Speaker 9>in with their own mind, with their own thinking, with

2380
02:16:55.680 --> 02:17:01.000
<v Speaker 9>what they thought they should say. That's a violation. These

2381
02:17:01.000 --> 02:17:04.120
<v Speaker 9>are some more of the caves. And this is one

2382
02:17:04.120 --> 02:17:06.079
<v Speaker 9>of the lessons that you're going to find in the

2383
02:17:06.120 --> 02:17:09.399
<v Speaker 9>book Outwitting tomorrow that the Commander says, you need to

2384
02:17:09.440 --> 02:17:14.319
<v Speaker 9>develop these five points of your star spiritual, mental, social, physical,

2385
02:17:14.639 --> 02:17:17.959
<v Speaker 9>and financials Before I go any further question, I don't

2386
02:17:17.959 --> 02:17:20.840
<v Speaker 9>want to embarrass anybody here today, but how many of you,

2387
02:17:20.920 --> 02:17:24.120
<v Speaker 9>be honest with me, are having financial difficulties. Let's see

2388
02:17:24.159 --> 02:17:27.680
<v Speaker 9>your hands? How much of the stand? Don't be a

2389
02:17:27.680 --> 02:17:31.440
<v Speaker 9>shamed stand because I'm going to pray a special prayer

2390
02:17:32.559 --> 02:17:36.760
<v Speaker 9>and you're rich people. You just pray with me, okay,

2391
02:17:37.840 --> 02:17:40.719
<v Speaker 9>lift your hand with me. Please. Now, when space people pray,

2392
02:17:40.840 --> 02:17:43.399
<v Speaker 9>they don't close their eyes, they don't put their head

2393
02:17:43.440 --> 02:17:47.719
<v Speaker 9>between the knees, and how they don't do that. They

2394
02:17:47.760 --> 02:17:50.719
<v Speaker 9>open their hands like such and they look up and

2395
02:17:50.760 --> 02:17:54.360
<v Speaker 9>they talk to Almighty God person to person. And that's

2396
02:17:54.360 --> 02:17:57.479
<v Speaker 9>what I'm going to do today, My loving Father, repeat

2397
02:17:57.479 --> 02:18:02.440
<v Speaker 9>that to me, my loving Father, I thank you because

2398
02:18:02.479 --> 02:18:07.399
<v Speaker 9>you are the alph and the Omega. I thank you

2399
02:18:08.760 --> 02:18:14.879
<v Speaker 9>that I'm in this convention today. I thank you that

2400
02:18:15.000 --> 02:18:20.319
<v Speaker 9>you promised that if I ask you, I will have

2401
02:18:20.399 --> 02:18:28.399
<v Speaker 9>good help and I will prosper. Therefore, I pray in

2402
02:18:28.440 --> 02:18:32.280
<v Speaker 9>the name of Almighty God, that you will open the

2403
02:18:32.399 --> 02:18:44.760
<v Speaker 9>windows of good health and financial blessings to me. Right now, Amen,

2404
02:18:46.239 --> 02:18:48.159
<v Speaker 9>Now turn to your neighbor and shake their hand and

2405
02:18:48.200 --> 02:18:50.879
<v Speaker 9>tell them I believe what I just prayed. Go ahead,

2406
02:19:10.079 --> 02:19:17.920
<v Speaker 9>doctor Michael, Doctor Michael, how much time do I have? God?

2407
02:19:17.920 --> 02:19:28.319
<v Speaker 9>Bless you my love? All right, quickly? Now I want

2408
02:19:28.319 --> 02:19:31.159
<v Speaker 9>to go down the facts figures, name states and places

2409
02:19:31.559 --> 02:19:33.680
<v Speaker 9>of the Dead Sea Scrolls, with your permission. Is that

2410
02:19:33.680 --> 02:19:36.280
<v Speaker 9>alright with you? Might as well I say yes, I'm

2411
02:19:36.280 --> 02:19:39.799
<v Speaker 9>going to do it any how. I love you all.

2412
02:19:39.879 --> 02:19:42.120
<v Speaker 9>You know that I wish I could take you all

2413
02:19:42.200 --> 02:19:48.399
<v Speaker 9>home with me. You sound too willing? All right? The

2414
02:19:48.479 --> 02:19:51.680
<v Speaker 9>Deadly Scrolls were first invented in the year of Our

2415
02:19:51.680 --> 02:19:59.120
<v Speaker 9>Lord nineteen forty seven. Right, all right. The Deadly Scrolls

2416
02:19:59.520 --> 02:20:02.360
<v Speaker 9>were first discovered in nineteen forty seven, the same year

2417
02:20:02.399 --> 02:20:07.399
<v Speaker 9>that Kenneth Arnold saw that UFO group over Mount Raineer.

2418
02:20:07.440 --> 02:20:09.840
<v Speaker 9>Remember that he called them flying sauces. He coined the

2419
02:20:09.879 --> 02:20:21.040
<v Speaker 9>phrase the commander on board Victor One took me into

2420
02:20:21.079 --> 02:20:24.479
<v Speaker 9>a room which is called the library. He provided me

2421
02:20:24.559 --> 02:20:30.920
<v Speaker 9>with large silver dollar shaped coins that had grooves in them.

2422
02:20:31.440 --> 02:20:34.600
<v Speaker 9>He said, put these in the compartment slot and you

2423
02:20:34.600 --> 02:20:41.000
<v Speaker 9>will see any phase of history, any phase whatsoever. I

2424
02:20:41.159 --> 02:20:45.760
<v Speaker 9>chose the Dead Sea Scrolls series. He gave me facts, vigas, names, dates,

2425
02:20:45.799 --> 02:20:49.559
<v Speaker 9>and places regarding the Dead Sea Scrolls that I'd never

2426
02:20:49.600 --> 02:20:53.600
<v Speaker 9>been released to the public. I'm sorry today. I only

2427
02:20:53.639 --> 02:20:57.319
<v Speaker 9>have five sets left of the trilogy on my desk,

2428
02:20:57.440 --> 02:20:59.440
<v Speaker 9>So the first five out there if you want to

2429
02:20:59.440 --> 02:21:02.399
<v Speaker 9>get them, you can. If you want to order them,

2430
02:21:02.440 --> 02:21:05.120
<v Speaker 9>take one of our order sheets from my table. We'll

2431
02:21:05.159 --> 02:21:09.680
<v Speaker 9>be very glad to send you the set. Now. When

2432
02:21:09.719 --> 02:21:13.799
<v Speaker 9>I produced these Dead Sea scroll trilage, eh, I did

2433
02:21:13.799 --> 02:21:18.280
<v Speaker 9>it again? What am I hitting here? That's all right.

2434
02:21:19.520 --> 02:21:25.799
<v Speaker 9>I receive a call from Jerusalem from Rabbi Talv tlv

2435
02:21:27.440 --> 02:21:31.399
<v Speaker 9>I don't hesitate to name names. He talks to me

2436
02:21:31.520 --> 02:21:35.120
<v Speaker 9>on the phone. He says, you're doctor Strange. He said,

2437
02:21:35.120 --> 02:21:40.719
<v Speaker 9>here we go again. Strangers. They called me worse. I said, yes,

2438
02:21:40.959 --> 02:21:43.159
<v Speaker 9>how can I help you? He said, this is Rabbi

2439
02:21:43.239 --> 02:21:45.239
<v Speaker 9>Talv and I'm in charge of the dead Sya scrolls.

2440
02:21:45.479 --> 02:21:47.360
<v Speaker 9>He said this all in one sentence, and you have

2441
02:21:47.479 --> 02:21:49.920
<v Speaker 9>no right to release the information you're about to release.

2442
02:21:50.159 --> 02:21:52.000
<v Speaker 9>I said, who said so? He said, I said so,

2443
02:21:53.719 --> 02:21:56.879
<v Speaker 9>And then he informed me of a bombshell that I

2444
02:21:56.959 --> 02:22:01.079
<v Speaker 9>was not aware of. He said, these are the sole

2445
02:22:01.319 --> 02:22:07.120
<v Speaker 9>property of an organization that you're well familiar with. I said,

2446
02:22:07.120 --> 02:22:14.239
<v Speaker 9>who might that be? He said the Rockefeller Foundation. I said,

2447
02:22:14.239 --> 02:22:18.280
<v Speaker 9>my friend, you are crazy. This information is going to

2448
02:22:18.280 --> 02:22:20.559
<v Speaker 9>be released because people need to know the truth, the

2449
02:22:20.600 --> 02:22:23.440
<v Speaker 9>whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So help me God.

2450
02:22:25.120 --> 02:22:28.520
<v Speaker 9>That got him teed off. He said, you have no

2451
02:22:28.680 --> 02:22:31.920
<v Speaker 9>right to disclose this information. It hasn't been cleared by us.

2452
02:22:31.959 --> 02:22:33.959
<v Speaker 9>I said, too bad. He said, where did you get this?

2453
02:22:34.040 --> 02:22:35.559
<v Speaker 9>I wasn't about to tell him. I got it from

2454
02:22:35.559 --> 02:22:45.639
<v Speaker 9>a man from Venus. He said, you should be put

2455
02:22:45.680 --> 02:22:50.479
<v Speaker 9>to death, and the person who gave these to you

2456
02:22:50.520 --> 02:22:53.920
<v Speaker 9>should be put to death. I hung up on him.

2457
02:22:55.239 --> 02:23:00.000
<v Speaker 9>Called me back. He said, now, listen, let's let's let's

2458
02:23:00.200 --> 02:23:02.239
<v Speaker 9>be honest with each other. I said, yes, it's about

2459
02:23:02.280 --> 02:23:04.600
<v Speaker 9>time you did. You and your people who are in

2460
02:23:04.719 --> 02:23:08.239
<v Speaker 9>charge of all this, He said, don't you realize if

2461
02:23:08.280 --> 02:23:12.360
<v Speaker 9>you release this information, it'll shake the foundation of organized religion,

2462
02:23:12.399 --> 02:23:15.360
<v Speaker 9>to which I said, thank you, Lord, and he hung

2463
02:23:15.440 --> 02:23:23.479
<v Speaker 9>up on me. The disease gross contains information concerning the

2464
02:23:23.559 --> 02:23:28.719
<v Speaker 9>works and teachings and words and blessings and warnings and

2465
02:23:28.840 --> 02:23:33.440
<v Speaker 9>prophecies of our Lord and Master Jesus Christ. It contains

2466
02:23:33.479 --> 02:23:36.399
<v Speaker 9>information that's not found in the sixty six books of

2467
02:23:36.440 --> 02:23:39.040
<v Speaker 9>the Sacred Cow version of the Bible, which I call

2468
02:23:39.079 --> 02:23:42.239
<v Speaker 9>the King James. Let me tell you something quickly about

2469
02:23:42.280 --> 02:23:45.600
<v Speaker 9>the King James Bible. The Bible which I call the

2470
02:23:45.680 --> 02:23:48.760
<v Speaker 9>King James. Let me tell you something quickly about the

2471
02:23:48.840 --> 02:23:53.079
<v Speaker 9>King James Bible. King James had a birthday coming up,

2472
02:23:53.079 --> 02:23:56.959
<v Speaker 9>and he had his translators working feverishly, almost around the

2473
02:23:56.959 --> 02:24:00.600
<v Speaker 9>clock to finish that volume called the King James Bible

2474
02:24:00.680 --> 02:24:05.399
<v Speaker 9>by his birthday, otherwise their heads would come on and

2475
02:24:05.440 --> 02:24:11.680
<v Speaker 9>the people who are advising these translators had the scissors

2476
02:24:11.719 --> 02:24:15.200
<v Speaker 9>and they were cutting up some of the sprolls saying

2477
02:24:15.239 --> 02:24:18.639
<v Speaker 9>that this information would not be good, would not be

2478
02:24:18.760 --> 02:24:23.120
<v Speaker 9>feasible because the people's mind are not capable of attaining

2479
02:24:23.159 --> 02:24:26.239
<v Speaker 9>the truth that's found therein which again I say, bull,

2480
02:24:27.719 --> 02:24:30.559
<v Speaker 9>I believe that people should have all the information available.

2481
02:24:33.680 --> 02:24:36.319
<v Speaker 9>It contains information about certain things that are going to

2482
02:24:36.360 --> 02:24:38.959
<v Speaker 9>be taking place in the last days of time of

2483
02:24:39.000 --> 02:24:43.399
<v Speaker 9>mankind on this planet. The Daisies Girls, which are in

2484
02:24:43.440 --> 02:24:49.959
<v Speaker 9>three parts number one, two, and three, capsulate information of

2485
02:24:50.040 --> 02:24:56.239
<v Speaker 9>how you, as an individual can help yourself. How many

2486
02:24:56.280 --> 02:24:58.959
<v Speaker 9>people are walking around the world today with their handout.

2487
02:24:58.959 --> 02:25:01.840
<v Speaker 9>They're looking for a hand out all the time, and

2488
02:25:01.879 --> 02:25:06.319
<v Speaker 9>then even when they receive, they want more without giving

2489
02:25:06.360 --> 02:25:10.239
<v Speaker 9>anything in return. I'm going to give you a revelation

2490
02:25:10.360 --> 02:25:13.200
<v Speaker 9>that's mentioned in the dead Sea Scrolls that may encourage

2491
02:25:13.200 --> 02:25:18.559
<v Speaker 9>many of you. You today are children of God? How

2492
02:25:18.559 --> 02:25:21.879
<v Speaker 9>many of peop believe that? Say? I, I further believe

2493
02:25:21.920 --> 02:25:25.600
<v Speaker 9>it's no accident that you came to this convention today.

2494
02:25:26.319 --> 02:25:29.600
<v Speaker 9>I don't believe in accidents. I believe everything is by

2495
02:25:29.920 --> 02:25:33.959
<v Speaker 9>divine order. Everything is in divine order, I mean everything.

2496
02:25:35.200 --> 02:25:38.200
<v Speaker 9>I believe you're going to see the day as those

2497
02:25:38.200 --> 02:25:40.079
<v Speaker 9>of you who stood on your feet a while ago.

2498
02:25:40.680 --> 02:25:43.719
<v Speaker 9>You're going to receive that healing that you need. According

2499
02:25:43.719 --> 02:25:47.799
<v Speaker 9>to the Deadly Scrolls, You're going to receive financial blessings

2500
02:25:47.879 --> 02:25:53.799
<v Speaker 9>far beyond that which you have ever anticipated. And if

2501
02:25:53.799 --> 02:25:56.000
<v Speaker 9>you read out winning tomorrow, you're going to find some

2502
02:25:56.079 --> 02:25:58.799
<v Speaker 9>things in that book that are also mentioned in the

2503
02:25:58.840 --> 02:26:02.680
<v Speaker 9>Dead Sea Scrolls, as prosperity and good health and longevity

2504
02:26:02.760 --> 02:26:06.319
<v Speaker 9>are concerned. I believe you're going to witness a time

2505
02:26:06.399 --> 02:26:09.200
<v Speaker 9>which is prophesied in the Book of Joel, which is

2506
02:26:09.399 --> 02:26:13.600
<v Speaker 9>enlarged upon in the Dead Sea Scrolls that in the

2507
02:26:13.680 --> 02:26:20.440
<v Speaker 9>Latter Times the Hebrew translation in the Last Days Aromaic translation,

2508
02:26:20.959 --> 02:26:25.440
<v Speaker 9>in the Times of the End, You're going to see

2509
02:26:25.479 --> 02:26:34.680
<v Speaker 9>a tremendous world wide spiritual awakening, not an awakening of religion.

2510
02:26:34.719 --> 02:26:37.040
<v Speaker 9>I'm sorry, We've got enough religion in the world today.

2511
02:26:38.559 --> 02:26:42.280
<v Speaker 9>But it's going to be an awakening of spiritual values.

2512
02:26:43.479 --> 02:26:45.639
<v Speaker 9>And those of you who are in this audience today,

2513
02:26:45.680 --> 02:26:48.879
<v Speaker 9>I'm happy to say, are going to be among those

2514
02:26:49.280 --> 02:26:56.639
<v Speaker 9>who will be called masters and teachers. You know something

2515
02:26:56.760 --> 02:27:01.079
<v Speaker 9>is coming to me right now. Do you mind if

2516
02:27:01.079 --> 02:27:05.760
<v Speaker 9>I stop for a moment. There are some people in

2517
02:27:05.840 --> 02:27:12.600
<v Speaker 9>this audience that have stomach trouble. I want you to

2518
02:27:12.600 --> 02:27:18.200
<v Speaker 9>stand to your feet. Come forward. If you don't mind,

2519
02:27:18.200 --> 02:27:20.319
<v Speaker 9>come forward. There's just you and me here today, that's all.

2520
02:27:21.760 --> 02:27:26.520
<v Speaker 9>If you're suffering, I just feel impressed to help you

2521
02:27:26.639 --> 02:27:33.200
<v Speaker 9>get rid of that stomach condition. And I've got to

2522
02:27:33.239 --> 02:27:35.040
<v Speaker 9>do what the spirit tells me to do. Is that

2523
02:27:35.159 --> 02:27:40.200
<v Speaker 9>all right? There's at least three more people, which there's

2524
02:27:40.239 --> 02:27:45.760
<v Speaker 9>one two they are Come ahead, mine my mind. What

2525
02:27:45.799 --> 02:27:53.920
<v Speaker 9>have you people been eating? Doctor Michael, would you come

2526
02:27:54.040 --> 02:27:58.680
<v Speaker 9>stand with me? Bring your beautiful princess. Also, of course,

2527
02:27:58.719 --> 02:28:01.719
<v Speaker 9>the scripture teaches me two and three are gathered together

2528
02:28:02.239 --> 02:28:07.120
<v Speaker 9>in His name as touching anything, it shall be done.

2529
02:28:07.159 --> 02:28:11.360
<v Speaker 9>Do you believe that's a I all right, stand with

2530
02:28:11.479 --> 02:28:14.799
<v Speaker 9>me and believe with me. Raise your right hands, read

2531
02:28:14.840 --> 02:28:19.399
<v Speaker 9>your both hands. Repeat that to me. Heavenly Father, I

2532
02:28:19.559 --> 02:28:29.040
<v Speaker 9>thank you this moment for divine healing, healing in my stomach.

2533
02:28:31.239 --> 02:28:37.680
<v Speaker 9>Rebuke the affliction, take it from me, and may I

2534
02:28:37.879 --> 02:28:46.920
<v Speaker 9>never suffer this affliction again. In the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

2535
02:28:47.959 --> 02:28:49.799
<v Speaker 9>I'll shake hands with your neighbor to tell them God

2536
02:28:49.799 --> 02:28:58.680
<v Speaker 9>bless you. I believe to you. Go ahead, bless you, Michael.

2537
02:29:02.319 --> 02:29:05.680
<v Speaker 9>All right, now in the dease scroves, you're going to

2538
02:29:05.680 --> 02:29:09.399
<v Speaker 9>find secrets of life, all these things that have been

2539
02:29:09.440 --> 02:29:13.079
<v Speaker 9>revealed to the authorities in Jerusalem, which they have never

2540
02:29:13.639 --> 02:29:17.639
<v Speaker 9>released to the public because God knows what their reasons are.

2541
02:29:18.479 --> 02:29:22.280
<v Speaker 9>But basically speaking, they lack. Some other religious organizations that

2542
02:29:22.479 --> 02:29:25.040
<v Speaker 9>like to withhold the truth from their people, because if

2543
02:29:25.079 --> 02:29:28.799
<v Speaker 9>they tell them the whole truth, they're afraid of losing power.

2544
02:29:30.239 --> 02:29:33.680
<v Speaker 9>And that's their secret of the whold of power and

2545
02:29:33.799 --> 02:29:38.079
<v Speaker 9>authority over people, and that way they cannot think for themselves.

2546
02:29:38.399 --> 02:29:40.799
<v Speaker 9>Let me tell you something quickly about my dad. I

2547
02:29:40.840 --> 02:29:44.280
<v Speaker 9>told you he's from Italy. He went to the store

2548
02:29:44.280 --> 02:29:47.200
<v Speaker 9>one day in Brooklyn, New York, to buy meat. He

2549
02:29:47.360 --> 02:29:49.000
<v Speaker 9>went in the meat market to buy bread. He went

2550
02:29:49.000 --> 02:29:50.719
<v Speaker 9>to the bakery to buy groceries. He went to the

2551
02:29:50.719 --> 02:29:54.000
<v Speaker 9>fruit store and he had three or four bundles he

2552
02:29:54.040 --> 02:29:56.399
<v Speaker 9>was carrying and on his way out the door.

2553
02:29:56.520 --> 02:29:59.399
<v Speaker 11>And that it is time that world government's officially ignowed.

2554
02:30:02.879 --> 02:30:06.799
<v Speaker 9>Stranger who said they post your daughter Nadala. Can I

2555
02:30:06.879 --> 02:30:09.959
<v Speaker 9>help you? Natalie call him his first name in Italian.

2556
02:30:10.559 --> 02:30:13.280
<v Speaker 9>My dad says, oh, sure, that's an iSER, and he

2557
02:30:13.360 --> 02:30:16.680
<v Speaker 9>helped them, took the packages. They got on the bus

2558
02:30:18.680 --> 02:30:21.680
<v Speaker 9>and the stranger says to my dad, have you heard

2559
02:30:21.719 --> 02:30:25.479
<v Speaker 9>from Frank lately? Dad says no. Who said, why did

2560
02:30:25.479 --> 02:30:30.719
<v Speaker 9>you go to school with him? No? The bus came

2561
02:30:30.760 --> 02:30:33.079
<v Speaker 9>to a stop. They got off the bus. They walked

2562
02:30:33.079 --> 02:30:36.799
<v Speaker 9>down Cypress Avenue to my mom and dad's corner home.

2563
02:30:37.840 --> 02:30:40.680
<v Speaker 9>As they approached the house. Their mom was standing beaming

2564
02:30:40.719 --> 02:30:44.440
<v Speaker 9>at the door, and all the time Dad knew he

2565
02:30:44.520 --> 02:30:47.559
<v Speaker 9>should have recognized this man, but he couldn't place him.

2566
02:30:50.120 --> 02:30:54.600
<v Speaker 9>Went into the doorway. Mom greeted this tall stranger. Dad said,

2567
02:30:54.600 --> 02:30:56.959
<v Speaker 9>this man was kind enough to help me with my packages.

2568
02:30:57.000 --> 02:30:59.200
<v Speaker 9>That did not not he even paid my bus fare.

2569
02:30:59.239 --> 02:31:04.040
<v Speaker 9>There's not wonderful. Praise God. It was wonderful. So they

2570
02:31:04.079 --> 02:31:07.680
<v Speaker 9>went into the house. The stranger put the packages down.

2571
02:31:08.479 --> 02:31:10.440
<v Speaker 9>Mom gave him a big hug. Dad gave him a

2572
02:31:10.440 --> 02:31:12.479
<v Speaker 9>big hug. Told them God bless you. See you again

2573
02:31:12.559 --> 02:31:15.000
<v Speaker 9>some time. He said, yeah, you probably will, and he

2574
02:31:15.000 --> 02:31:18.040
<v Speaker 9>turned around, walked down the stairs, down the street, and

2575
02:31:18.079 --> 02:31:27.120
<v Speaker 9>they watched him as he vanished, disappeared from sight. At

2576
02:31:27.120 --> 02:31:30.680
<v Speaker 9>that moment, my mom, God bless her. She said, that

2577
02:31:31.000 --> 02:31:34.079
<v Speaker 9>was the commander. Why didn't you know it? Dare says me,

2578
02:31:34.200 --> 02:31:38.639
<v Speaker 9>why don't you know it? And then after that Dad

2579
02:31:38.680 --> 02:31:41.840
<v Speaker 9>had a new respect for his son Frank in his

2580
02:31:42.000 --> 02:31:46.680
<v Speaker 9>experience with a man from another world. My friends, don't

2581
02:31:46.680 --> 02:31:51.559
<v Speaker 9>be surprised if by the time you arrived home or

2582
02:31:52.040 --> 02:31:57.639
<v Speaker 9>in transit, you meet someone from another world. You say,

2583
02:31:57.639 --> 02:32:00.639
<v Speaker 9>how will I know? Believe me when I said you

2584
02:32:00.760 --> 02:32:04.000
<v Speaker 9>will know. You will know. The Commander told me to

2585
02:32:04.040 --> 02:32:07.440
<v Speaker 9>inform you also that this entire convention has been beamed

2586
02:32:07.559 --> 02:32:11.120
<v Speaker 9>aboard Victor one and they're going to be playing it

2587
02:32:11.680 --> 02:32:15.360
<v Speaker 9>for their classes of their students who come. And they

2588
02:32:15.440 --> 02:32:18.280
<v Speaker 9>love to see how people in Hawaii act when they

2589
02:32:18.280 --> 02:32:23.639
<v Speaker 9>hear the truth. Isn't that marvelous? That marvelous? You'll have

2590
02:32:23.639 --> 02:32:29.440
<v Speaker 9>another minute. Vice Commander Teal is a character doctor Lee Nakimota,

2591
02:32:29.479 --> 02:32:32.959
<v Speaker 9>who's a one hundred and eighteen this past February. He

2592
02:32:33.280 --> 02:32:35.239
<v Speaker 9>bought a jet plane a few years ago, which I

2593
02:32:35.280 --> 02:32:38.200
<v Speaker 9>fly once in a while. She's got a heavy foot.

2594
02:32:38.239 --> 02:32:41.360
<v Speaker 9>How many of you like to speed? So you know

2595
02:32:41.479 --> 02:32:45.200
<v Speaker 9>you do? And she's speeding one hundred miles an hour

2596
02:32:45.239 --> 02:32:50.120
<v Speaker 9>down the Nevada Desert going toward Las Vegas, and this

2597
02:32:50.360 --> 02:32:52.680
<v Speaker 9>highway patrol man caught up with her. He was on

2598
02:32:52.719 --> 02:32:57.600
<v Speaker 9>a bike and a motorcycle, and he says to her,

2599
02:32:58.120 --> 02:33:01.239
<v Speaker 9>do you know how fast you were going? She said yes,

2600
02:33:01.399 --> 02:33:05.159
<v Speaker 9>about one hundred He said yes, And she says, incidentally,

2601
02:33:05.959 --> 02:33:10.520
<v Speaker 9>how is Marie, Marie his wife? Oh? He says, oh,

2602
02:33:10.559 --> 02:33:13.280
<v Speaker 9>she's fine. You know, I've seen her once in a while.

2603
02:33:14.440 --> 02:33:18.840
<v Speaker 9>And during the course of the conversation. The officer took

2604
02:33:18.879 --> 02:33:24.799
<v Speaker 9>out his book, in all that book and he's riding

2605
02:33:24.879 --> 02:33:32.559
<v Speaker 9>her a ticket speeding the offense number at the bottom

2606
02:33:33.000 --> 02:33:39.200
<v Speaker 9>where it says signature, he signs his name. He signs

2607
02:33:39.280 --> 02:33:45.639
<v Speaker 9>his name, tears it off, folds it up, puts it

2608
02:33:45.680 --> 02:33:49.559
<v Speaker 9>in his pocket, and says the nice commander teal bye bye.

2609
02:33:49.600 --> 02:33:53.239
<v Speaker 9>I have a good day. She says. I will you

2610
02:33:53.280 --> 02:33:55.840
<v Speaker 9>know all officers when they come home back to the

2611
02:33:55.879 --> 02:33:59.040
<v Speaker 9>office that night, back to the police station, that they

2612
02:33:59.120 --> 02:34:01.760
<v Speaker 9>take out their book and they look page after page.

2613
02:34:02.000 --> 02:34:04.000
<v Speaker 9>And I don't know what went through his mind when

2614
02:34:04.000 --> 02:34:08.040
<v Speaker 9>he saw her ticket with his signature Anna, But doctor

2615
02:34:08.079 --> 02:34:10.600
<v Speaker 9>Lee made the difference that the guy didn't have to

2616
02:34:10.639 --> 02:34:12.719
<v Speaker 9>pay the fine. This is what kind of a fun

2617
02:34:12.760 --> 02:34:17.559
<v Speaker 9>woman she is, and she's interested in especially the ladies

2618
02:34:18.040 --> 02:34:20.440
<v Speaker 9>to whom we come in contact with, because he said,

2619
02:34:20.440 --> 02:34:24.479
<v Speaker 9>the ladies today, they need encouragement. They need to know

2620
02:34:24.520 --> 02:34:27.479
<v Speaker 9>what their true position is in life, and they need

2621
02:34:27.520 --> 02:34:33.840
<v Speaker 9>to know that they should assume positions of leadership. That's

2622
02:34:33.879 --> 02:34:36.680
<v Speaker 9>why I'm sharing this with you today because I believe

2623
02:34:36.719 --> 02:34:39.200
<v Speaker 9>some of you are going to be the masters and

2624
02:34:39.280 --> 02:34:42.559
<v Speaker 9>the teachers that are going to lead people into pathways

2625
02:34:42.600 --> 02:34:48.600
<v Speaker 9>of righteousness, and pathways of health, pathways of prosperity and longevity,

2626
02:34:48.959 --> 02:34:53.079
<v Speaker 9>such they as they have never known before. The Commander

2627
02:34:53.120 --> 02:34:56.079
<v Speaker 9>also gave me information about mastership. I think we have about

2628
02:34:56.040 --> 02:34:59.719
<v Speaker 9>four of those tapes left on my table about mastership.

2629
02:35:00.280 --> 02:35:02.239
<v Speaker 9>This is a CD. You get yourself, one of those

2630
02:35:02.440 --> 02:35:05.079
<v Speaker 9>ladies and gentlemen. It has been such a tremendous pleasure

2631
02:35:05.120 --> 02:35:08.239
<v Speaker 9>for me to share this experience with you. I prayed

2632
02:35:08.280 --> 02:35:10.799
<v Speaker 9>God's Richard's blessing rest upon all of you. Thank you.

2633
02:35:13.120 --> 02:35:20.639
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Wow, holy fucking sermon, he's obviously a pastor. Oh obviously, well,

2634
02:35:20.879 --> 02:35:23.440
<v Speaker 2>get like three fucking alter callses he's trying to talk

2635
02:35:23.479 --> 02:35:24.360
<v Speaker 2>about aliens.

2636
02:35:24.399 --> 02:35:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Holy shit, eh.

2637
02:35:25.399 --> 02:35:29.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean that was no secret. But I think regardless

2638
02:35:29.319 --> 02:35:32.680
<v Speaker 1>of your flavor, right, whether you're religious or not, or

2639
02:35:32.799 --> 02:35:36.360
<v Speaker 1>you think that he's up there preaching prosperity, I get

2640
02:35:36.399 --> 02:35:39.040
<v Speaker 1>it that there's a there's a stink around that kind

2641
02:35:39.079 --> 02:35:43.000
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. It doesn't necessarily mean that it should be disregarded,

2642
02:35:43.360 --> 02:35:47.840
<v Speaker 1>but you know, I don't know. I wanted to present

2643
02:35:47.879 --> 02:35:50.319
<v Speaker 1>this show in a way to where we could talk

2644
02:35:50.360 --> 02:35:55.920
<v Speaker 1>about the information of which of valiant thor and all

2645
02:35:55.959 --> 02:35:59.079
<v Speaker 1>this buzzed messages and especially hear it straight from the

2646
02:35:59.120 --> 02:36:02.200
<v Speaker 1>horse's mouth. Now, I don't know. I mean, you take

2647
02:36:02.239 --> 02:36:04.719
<v Speaker 1>it from what you will. I think that it's interesting.

2648
02:36:04.760 --> 02:36:06.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna sit here and say that I absolutely

2649
02:36:06.719 --> 02:36:09.959
<v Speaker 1>believe it or absolutely disbelieve it. I'm just going to

2650
02:36:10.280 --> 02:36:12.280
<v Speaker 1>let it stir in the mind a little bit.

2651
02:36:13.000 --> 02:36:17.200
<v Speaker 2>With that, let's talk about this again, very very easy

2652
02:36:17.360 --> 02:36:21.559
<v Speaker 2>internet searches will poke a few holes in the valiant

2653
02:36:21.719 --> 02:36:25.840
<v Speaker 2>for conversation. Okay, And I'm not trying to debunk mister

2654
02:36:25.879 --> 02:36:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Pastorman there. He seems like he's a decent guy. You know,

2655
02:36:29.120 --> 02:36:31.760
<v Speaker 2>all these things. I cannot, for the life of me

2656
02:36:31.840 --> 02:36:35.559
<v Speaker 2>see the connections between the Dead Sea Scrolls and UFOs

2657
02:36:36.159 --> 02:36:37.959
<v Speaker 2>like that. He didn't even make that connection.

2658
02:36:38.159 --> 02:36:40.920
<v Speaker 1>He just kind of talked about UFOs and ufology and

2659
02:36:40.959 --> 02:36:43.600
<v Speaker 1>all these things and then boom, now let's talk about

2660
02:36:43.639 --> 02:36:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the Dead Sea scroll Like wait, all right, that was

2661
02:36:47.159 --> 02:36:49.639
<v Speaker 1>a weird segue, which of which there was none. But no,

2662
02:36:49.920 --> 02:36:51.719
<v Speaker 1>he was just saying that there were certain things that

2663
02:36:51.760 --> 02:36:54.120
<v Speaker 1>were taken out of the Dead Sea Scrolls, of which

2664
02:36:54.440 --> 02:36:58.200
<v Speaker 1>the Rockefeller supposedly doesn't believe. The humanity is ready to

2665
02:36:58.239 --> 02:36:58.520
<v Speaker 1>heat it.

2666
02:36:59.200 --> 02:37:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, and we're gonna talk about that all right, let's

2667
02:37:01.760 --> 02:37:04.200
<v Speaker 2>just break it down from the top here, the nephew

2668
02:37:04.239 --> 02:37:05.200
<v Speaker 2>of Admiral Bird.

2669
02:37:05.879 --> 02:37:07.799
<v Speaker 1>I looked up during this episode.

2670
02:37:07.840 --> 02:37:11.479
<v Speaker 2>I looked up every single obituary, every single everything that

2671
02:37:11.520 --> 02:37:14.360
<v Speaker 2>I could about Admiral Bird and his family. Admiral Bird

2672
02:37:14.360 --> 02:37:16.879
<v Speaker 2>had two brothers. One of them became the Governor of Virginia.

2673
02:37:16.959 --> 02:37:20.479
<v Speaker 2>The other one, Thomas Bird, kind of fell off into obscurity.

2674
02:37:20.520 --> 02:37:23.040
<v Speaker 2>He was a captain of infantry during one of the

2675
02:37:23.120 --> 02:37:27.239
<v Speaker 2>World Wars. And there's no evidence to say that he

2676
02:37:27.360 --> 02:37:30.000
<v Speaker 2>had a son, or if he did, he's absolutely not

2677
02:37:30.200 --> 02:37:35.159
<v Speaker 2>named as you know, doctor, you know Harley Bird. The

2678
02:37:35.200 --> 02:37:38.000
<v Speaker 2>only source that I could find for doctor Harley Bird

2679
02:37:38.200 --> 02:37:41.440
<v Speaker 2>is in the forward of that book. He's basically a ghost.

2680
02:37:41.479 --> 02:37:44.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that makes him fake. I'm saying that

2681
02:37:44.200 --> 02:37:46.600
<v Speaker 2>there would at least be some other kind of credentials

2682
02:37:46.600 --> 02:37:49.120
<v Speaker 2>to a guy with a moniker of doctor out there.

2683
02:37:49.680 --> 02:37:49.959
<v Speaker 3>Now.

2684
02:37:50.040 --> 02:37:51.680
<v Speaker 2>The other thing that I have an issue with is

2685
02:37:51.680 --> 02:37:54.079
<v Speaker 2>the fact that the story from Harley Bird is that

2686
02:37:54.159 --> 02:37:56.360
<v Speaker 2>his uncle, not his great uncle. If we are to

2687
02:37:56.399 --> 02:37:59.520
<v Speaker 2>believe the story, is that his uncle at a very

2688
02:37:59.559 --> 02:38:03.639
<v Speaker 2>early entrusted him with all this information about his travels,

2689
02:38:03.680 --> 02:38:05.680
<v Speaker 2>not his son, not any of these other people, as

2690
02:38:05.719 --> 02:38:08.680
<v Speaker 2>from his private journal that the Indies incredible stories even

2691
02:38:08.719 --> 02:38:11.559
<v Speaker 2>came out after his death, and the whole story about

2692
02:38:11.559 --> 02:38:14.239
<v Speaker 2>his son being brought into the Naval Intelligence Group and

2693
02:38:14.280 --> 02:38:16.120
<v Speaker 2>all that would be when he was at the ripe

2694
02:38:16.159 --> 02:38:19.840
<v Speaker 2>old age of eighteen years old, which also makes no

2695
02:38:19.920 --> 02:38:22.559
<v Speaker 2>sense if you're following him with his naval career. He

2696
02:38:22.559 --> 02:38:24.440
<v Speaker 2>would have had to have gone to college first before

2697
02:38:24.440 --> 02:38:27.319
<v Speaker 2>he could ever get a commission. So right off the rip,

2698
02:38:27.399 --> 02:38:29.600
<v Speaker 2>there's no way he was eighteen years old with the

2699
02:38:29.680 --> 02:38:31.879
<v Speaker 2>Naval Intelligence Office as an officer.

2700
02:38:32.120 --> 02:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>That the math just all math on that. Now moving

2701
02:38:34.639 --> 02:38:38.680
<v Speaker 1>forward Pentagon with our guy that we just heard from.

2702
02:38:39.159 --> 02:38:40.479
<v Speaker 1>This was during the Cold War.

2703
02:38:40.840 --> 02:38:43.479
<v Speaker 2>The Pentagon was built in nineteen forty one and was

2704
02:38:43.559 --> 02:38:47.559
<v Speaker 2>like actually like the big ceremony thing in nineteen forty three,

2705
02:38:47.920 --> 02:38:51.000
<v Speaker 2>the Cold War was going down. Right now, no one

2706
02:38:51.079 --> 02:38:53.680
<v Speaker 2>is walking into the Pentagon by flashing their jacket as

2707
02:38:53.719 --> 02:38:55.239
<v Speaker 2>if they have a badge and they really don't.

2708
02:38:55.639 --> 02:38:57.079
<v Speaker 1>And then the ladies like, well, just do it on.

2709
02:38:57.040 --> 02:39:00.159
<v Speaker 2>The way out, like no, that's how you get federal

2710
02:39:00.280 --> 02:39:02.760
<v Speaker 2>charges pour out on you. He also made mention of

2711
02:39:03.040 --> 02:39:04.799
<v Speaker 2>he saw the rubble of the building from where the

2712
02:39:04.799 --> 02:39:08.079
<v Speaker 2>plane had crashed a few years prior. The only time

2713
02:39:08.120 --> 02:39:11.159
<v Speaker 2>a plane has crashed into the Pentagon was on September eleventh,

2714
02:39:11.159 --> 02:39:13.000
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and one, allegedly. And I'm not even going

2715
02:39:13.040 --> 02:39:14.760
<v Speaker 2>into the conversation if it that was a plane or not.

2716
02:39:14.840 --> 02:39:16.680
<v Speaker 2>My point is no thing from the sky has ever

2717
02:39:16.719 --> 02:39:20.639
<v Speaker 2>hit the Pentagon. In the fifties, there was a crash

2718
02:39:20.680 --> 02:39:24.280
<v Speaker 2>at Reagan air Force or a Reagan Airport, which is

2719
02:39:24.360 --> 02:39:27.479
<v Speaker 2>right across the interstate from the Pentagon. And fine, there's that.

2720
02:39:28.200 --> 02:39:31.120
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't at the Pentagon. So that thing that he

2721
02:39:31.239 --> 02:39:35.440
<v Speaker 2>just said is completely you know wrong. Then talking about

2722
02:39:35.479 --> 02:39:38.040
<v Speaker 2>how yeah, they just brought him into a room because

2723
02:39:38.079 --> 02:39:40.920
<v Speaker 2>he was giving a talk once upon a time, and

2724
02:39:40.920 --> 02:39:42.680
<v Speaker 2>they were just like, I want you to meet that guy.

2725
02:39:42.719 --> 02:39:46.239
<v Speaker 2>He'd been taking pictures of those pictures he's talking about

2726
02:39:46.239 --> 02:39:48.600
<v Speaker 2>a valiant thor this clean cut guy with the brown

2727
02:39:48.639 --> 02:39:51.799
<v Speaker 2>hair and all of this. They're from about thirty different

2728
02:39:51.840 --> 02:39:53.799
<v Speaker 2>pictures that were taking of a bunch of young people

2729
02:39:53.840 --> 02:39:57.440
<v Speaker 2>at some outdoor event. And there is no information as

2730
02:39:57.479 --> 02:39:59.879
<v Speaker 2>to who these people are, where they are, any of

2731
02:39:59.879 --> 02:40:00.600
<v Speaker 2>the stuff.

2732
02:40:01.040 --> 02:40:04.559
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know exactly where these pictures materialize from,

2733
02:40:04.639 --> 02:40:07.159
<v Speaker 1>or if he was just doing some photo shoots for

2734
02:40:07.200 --> 02:40:09.159
<v Speaker 1>some young, well dressed people one day.

2735
02:40:09.159 --> 02:40:10.799
<v Speaker 2>But there's like a whole picture of them chilling in

2736
02:40:10.799 --> 02:40:12.479
<v Speaker 2>a like it looks like a field or a park

2737
02:40:12.559 --> 02:40:16.360
<v Speaker 2>or something outdoor. And the Valiant Thor guy is one

2738
02:40:16.520 --> 02:40:19.639
<v Speaker 2>of this group. And I'm not saying that these are

2739
02:40:19.760 --> 02:40:21.920
<v Speaker 2>alien people. I'm saying that, like he took pictures of

2740
02:40:21.920 --> 02:40:24.280
<v Speaker 2>things and then said that he was brought to the

2741
02:40:24.559 --> 02:40:27.239
<v Speaker 2>to the Pentagon to be kept at the Pentagon for

2742
02:40:27.239 --> 02:40:29.840
<v Speaker 2>three years. Is also kind of odd, but not the

2743
02:40:29.840 --> 02:40:32.319
<v Speaker 2>most crazy thing ever. But why wouldn't they have him

2744
02:40:32.360 --> 02:40:34.440
<v Speaker 2>at a secret Air Force base where they're doing all

2745
02:40:34.440 --> 02:40:37.479
<v Speaker 2>the testing on new you know, information, new technology and

2746
02:40:37.520 --> 02:40:40.280
<v Speaker 2>all these things. That also just does not make sense

2747
02:40:40.319 --> 02:40:46.120
<v Speaker 2>to me whatsoever. Now the whole Dead Sea Scrolls thing. Actually,

2748
02:40:46.520 --> 02:40:49.280
<v Speaker 2>before I even get to that, his book that he

2749
02:40:49.319 --> 02:40:52.479
<v Speaker 2>wrote made some crazy predictions about how two thousand and seven.

2750
02:40:52.239 --> 02:40:54.000
<v Speaker 3>Would be the beginning of the end of the world.

2751
02:40:54.479 --> 02:40:58.399
<v Speaker 2>I hate to break it to everybody, the predictions that

2752
02:40:58.440 --> 02:41:02.159
<v Speaker 2>were made in the book didn't happen, like at all.

2753
02:41:02.520 --> 02:41:05.959
<v Speaker 1>There are wild speculations that he made. And again he

2754
02:41:06.000 --> 02:41:07.799
<v Speaker 1>was talking about this, what was this year that this

2755
02:41:07.959 --> 02:41:11.840
<v Speaker 1>was recorded in the nineteen seventy. No, no, because he

2756
02:41:11.959 --> 02:41:14.399
<v Speaker 1>was talking about CDs, so it must have been towards

2757
02:41:14.399 --> 02:41:15.360
<v Speaker 1>the nineties, e.

2758
02:41:15.120 --> 02:41:18.319
<v Speaker 2>Eighties, late eighties, early nineties. Maybe in two thousand and

2759
02:41:18.319 --> 02:41:22.200
<v Speaker 2>seven was gonna be the year. It sounds very almost

2760
02:41:22.399 --> 02:41:25.600
<v Speaker 2>y two K fear mongering grifter to me. And then

2761
02:41:25.600 --> 02:41:27.920
<v Speaker 2>whenever you hear him preaching about the Prosperity Gospel and

2762
02:41:27.920 --> 02:41:29.559
<v Speaker 2>all of this, it's like, uh huh huh.

2763
02:41:29.600 --> 02:41:31.639
<v Speaker 3>Okay, but who knows, who knows?

2764
02:41:31.639 --> 02:41:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Who knows now about the Dead Sea Scrolls because he

2765
02:41:35.200 --> 02:41:39.280
<v Speaker 2>just knew so much about them. Let's let's share the

2766
02:41:39.319 --> 02:41:41.680
<v Speaker 2>scream real quick and talk about what we do know

2767
02:41:41.760 --> 02:41:43.120
<v Speaker 2>about the Dead Sea Scrolls.

2768
02:41:43.120 --> 02:41:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, this is from when Wes Huff went on Joe Rogan.

2769
02:41:45.200 --> 02:41:46.920
<v Speaker 2>It's only three minutes long, and this is what we

2770
02:41:47.000 --> 02:41:49.559
<v Speaker 2>do know about the Dead Sea Scrolls. Not everything he

2771
02:41:49.600 --> 02:41:52.920
<v Speaker 2>said was wrong, but he was speaking as somebody who

2772
02:41:53.000 --> 02:41:55.600
<v Speaker 2>has heard of them one or two times but didn't

2773
02:41:55.639 --> 02:41:58.040
<v Speaker 2>really know much about them. He said they're in three parts.

2774
02:41:58.479 --> 02:42:03.000
<v Speaker 2>That is emphallically correct. But let's hear from the actual

2775
02:42:03.040 --> 02:42:04.559
<v Speaker 2>expert on this topic.

2776
02:42:04.799 --> 02:42:06.680
<v Speaker 3>Of the Bible or the stories in the Bible.

2777
02:42:06.760 --> 02:42:09.159
<v Speaker 1>Is it the Dead Sea Scrolls or their older versions.

2778
02:42:09.479 --> 02:42:11.879
<v Speaker 12>The Dead Sea Scrolls are the oldest of the Old Testament,

2779
02:42:12.680 --> 02:42:15.959
<v Speaker 12>so when they were discovered, I mean, so they were

2780
02:42:15.959 --> 02:42:19.079
<v Speaker 12>discovered nineteen forty six to nineteen fifty seven, and at

2781
02:42:19.120 --> 02:42:22.559
<v Speaker 12>that point during their discovery, they pushed back a lot

2782
02:42:22.600 --> 02:42:27.479
<v Speaker 12>of our previous oldest manuscripts a thousand years which was

2783
02:42:27.479 --> 02:42:28.520
<v Speaker 12>a big deal.

2784
02:42:29.879 --> 02:42:31.360
<v Speaker 3>How old are they are?

2785
02:42:31.360 --> 02:42:34.879
<v Speaker 12>There anywhere between the third century BC and the first

2786
02:42:34.879 --> 02:42:38.040
<v Speaker 12>century BC. So it's kind of tricky because the Dead

2787
02:42:38.079 --> 02:42:42.159
<v Speaker 12>Sea Scrolls are they're like a library that we refer to.

2788
02:42:42.479 --> 02:42:46.840
<v Speaker 12>So it's approximately nine hundred and seventy documents, but it's

2789
02:42:46.879 --> 02:42:53.360
<v Speaker 12>distributed out between ten thousand and eleven thousand fragments, so

2790
02:42:53.760 --> 02:42:56.360
<v Speaker 12>there's a lot going on there, right. So, and some

2791
02:42:56.399 --> 02:42:59.840
<v Speaker 12>of these, I mean are are so fragmentary that you

2792
02:43:00.040 --> 02:43:03.159
<v Speaker 12>look at them and it's like confetti because they're i

2793
02:43:03.159 --> 02:43:05.680
<v Speaker 12>mean three thousand years old, but not quite that.

2794
02:43:05.719 --> 02:43:07.399
<v Speaker 7>They're like two thousand plus years old.

2795
02:43:07.479 --> 02:43:11.719
<v Speaker 12>Animal skins too, right, well, all sorts of things, animal skins, papyri,

2796
02:43:12.079 --> 02:43:13.840
<v Speaker 12>and then some of them are actually done on copper.

2797
02:43:14.319 --> 02:43:15.600
<v Speaker 7>They're like inscribed in copper.

2798
02:43:15.840 --> 02:43:16.079
<v Speaker 9>Wow.

2799
02:43:16.159 --> 02:43:18.879
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, one of the coolest ones. Actually this relates because

2800
02:43:18.879 --> 02:43:21.200
<v Speaker 12>I know you're a Marco Allegro guy. The first time

2801
02:43:21.239 --> 02:43:23.479
<v Speaker 12>I was introduced to Marko Allegro was not his Sacred

2802
02:43:23.520 --> 02:43:25.879
<v Speaker 12>Mushroom and the cross stuff, but he published a book

2803
02:43:25.959 --> 02:43:29.239
<v Speaker 12>on what's called the Copper Scroll because part of the

2804
02:43:29.280 --> 02:43:32.840
<v Speaker 12>Dead Sea Scuroll fragments are is this inscribed document on copper,

2805
02:43:32.840 --> 02:43:34.159
<v Speaker 12>which is an ancient treasure map.

2806
02:43:34.559 --> 02:43:35.159
<v Speaker 1>Can you see it?

2807
02:43:35.440 --> 02:43:35.639
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

2808
02:43:35.760 --> 02:43:36.120
<v Speaker 9>Online?

2809
02:43:36.200 --> 02:43:39.239
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Jamie, pull up the hey the wow.

2810
02:43:39.440 --> 02:43:40.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

2811
02:43:40.159 --> 02:43:43.239
<v Speaker 7>So it's in Hebrew and it is wild.

2812
02:43:43.360 --> 02:43:46.440
<v Speaker 12>So it has these sites where it says buried treasure

2813
02:43:46.879 --> 02:43:48.840
<v Speaker 12>is found, and there have been a number of guys

2814
02:43:48.840 --> 02:43:52.319
<v Speaker 12>who have tried to like look for it, and so.

2815
02:43:52.680 --> 02:43:53.920
<v Speaker 3>I would say, what the treasure is?

2816
02:43:54.399 --> 02:43:55.879
<v Speaker 1>Uh, you know what?

2817
02:43:56.120 --> 02:43:59.079
<v Speaker 12>Off the top of my head, I don't know. But

2818
02:43:59.440 --> 02:44:04.280
<v Speaker 12>look how languages I know, right, and so but but

2819
02:44:04.559 --> 02:44:06.280
<v Speaker 12>the Dead Sea squirrels, So it's like stuff like this.

2820
02:44:06.399 --> 02:44:10.760
<v Speaker 12>It's papyri, it's animal skins, and it's a number of

2821
02:44:10.799 --> 02:44:13.600
<v Speaker 12>different languages. So the vast majority of it in Hebrew,

2822
02:44:13.920 --> 02:44:17.120
<v Speaker 12>but there's also a lot in Aramaic, and then Greek

2823
02:44:17.280 --> 02:44:18.280
<v Speaker 12>and in Nabataean.

2824
02:44:19.040 --> 02:44:21.520
<v Speaker 7>So it's like a it's like.

2825
02:44:21.479 --> 02:44:26.000
<v Speaker 12>An umbrella term to just describe a whole bunch of literature.

2826
02:44:26.319 --> 02:44:28.280
<v Speaker 12>So a lot of it is biblical because it was

2827
02:44:28.280 --> 02:44:30.719
<v Speaker 12>written by this group out in the desert called the

2828
02:44:30.799 --> 02:44:35.280
<v Speaker 12>Essenes Cumran. So, but then other stuff of it is

2829
02:44:35.440 --> 02:44:40.079
<v Speaker 12>just you know, it's just Jewish literature of various stripes.

2830
02:44:40.159 --> 02:44:44.120
<v Speaker 12>That is, is were hidden in caves all around the

2831
02:44:44.159 --> 02:44:44.600
<v Speaker 12>Dead Sea.

2832
02:44:45.120 --> 02:44:48.920
<v Speaker 1>So the scrolls, as it were, aren't all biblical. Some

2833
02:44:49.000 --> 02:44:52.639
<v Speaker 1>of them is just accounting of the times. Yeah.

2834
02:44:52.760 --> 02:44:55.000
<v Speaker 12>Oh, Jamie looked at up sixty five tons of gold

2835
02:44:55.000 --> 02:44:56.479
<v Speaker 12>and twenty six of silver.

2836
02:44:56.600 --> 02:44:57.639
<v Speaker 1>Sixty five tons.

2837
02:44:58.760 --> 02:44:59.319
<v Speaker 5>That's a lot.

2838
02:44:59.440 --> 02:44:59.959
<v Speaker 3>That's a lot.

2839
02:45:01.000 --> 02:45:02.920
<v Speaker 1>How many Cuban links can you make out of that?

2840
02:45:03.040 --> 02:45:06.959
<v Speaker 7>You can see why someone would try to down boy. Yeah.

2841
02:45:07.200 --> 02:45:07.639
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

2842
02:45:07.719 --> 02:45:09.760
<v Speaker 12>And and you know when when we're talking about the

2843
02:45:09.760 --> 02:45:11.920
<v Speaker 12>Dead Sea scrolls, like you have ones like the Great

2844
02:45:11.920 --> 02:45:15.360
<v Speaker 12>Isaiah Scroll, which is fully complete, like it's a it's

2845
02:45:15.360 --> 02:45:17.440
<v Speaker 12>a copy of the Book of Isaiah and it's a

2846
02:45:17.479 --> 02:45:18.559
<v Speaker 12>full complete scroll.

2847
02:45:19.239 --> 02:45:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So again they have translations and experts that have

2848
02:45:24.120 --> 02:45:28.000
<v Speaker 2>translated all of the Dead Sea scrolls. The Rockefeller system

2849
02:45:28.040 --> 02:45:30.879
<v Speaker 2>of fluptiflaws did not come in and section that off

2850
02:45:30.920 --> 02:45:33.639
<v Speaker 2>to prevent people from gaining that knowledge and wisdom.

2851
02:45:33.840 --> 02:45:34.879
<v Speaker 3>So just so we're all clear on that.

2852
02:45:34.879 --> 02:45:38.799
<v Speaker 2>How do we know that because there are experts who

2853
02:45:38.840 --> 02:45:42.399
<v Speaker 2>have the complete documents from the Dead Sea scrolls that

2854
02:45:42.440 --> 02:45:44.879
<v Speaker 2>have worked on not just West Up, there's entire teams

2855
02:45:44.879 --> 02:45:47.159
<v Speaker 2>that have dedicated decades to this.

2856
02:45:47.399 --> 02:45:49.959
<v Speaker 1>But even amost themselves aren't complete. They only got one

2857
02:45:50.040 --> 02:45:52.479
<v Speaker 1>complete thing of Isaiah, of which it was just saying.

2858
02:45:52.520 --> 02:45:54.360
<v Speaker 1>So how can you say that none of it was

2859
02:45:54.399 --> 02:45:58.200
<v Speaker 1>taken away? Whenever they don't even have the complete everything to.

2860
02:45:58.079 --> 02:46:01.440
<v Speaker 2>It, you would be able to tell somebody recently snipped

2861
02:46:01.440 --> 02:46:05.440
<v Speaker 2>it versus it deteriorating over time, like that's that's very

2862
02:46:05.479 --> 02:46:06.520
<v Speaker 2>easily discernible.

2863
02:46:07.680 --> 02:46:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, I mean again, that's we don't have it

2864
02:46:11.280 --> 02:46:12.760
<v Speaker 1>in front of us. We don't have any way of

2865
02:46:12.799 --> 02:46:15.760
<v Speaker 1>looking at it. We don't have any way of being

2866
02:46:15.799 --> 02:46:20.079
<v Speaker 1>able to confirm or deny that the alleged experts of anything,

2867
02:46:20.319 --> 02:46:24.520
<v Speaker 1>especially of anything of religious or spiritual nature, had been

2868
02:46:24.600 --> 02:46:26.840
<v Speaker 1>tampered with one way or another. We don't know how

2869
02:46:26.840 --> 02:46:29.159
<v Speaker 1>many hands it went through before it eventually got to

2870
02:46:29.200 --> 02:46:31.719
<v Speaker 1>the scholars. We don't know how many times it was

2871
02:46:31.799 --> 02:46:34.719
<v Speaker 1>looked at by the powers that be that said whether

2872
02:46:34.840 --> 02:46:36.920
<v Speaker 1>or not this was stuff that we could give out

2873
02:46:37.000 --> 02:46:40.840
<v Speaker 1>to the public, right, Like, is it crazy to is it.

2874
02:46:40.879 --> 02:46:44.559
<v Speaker 1>Is it honestly that crazy to believe that, like the

2875
02:46:44.760 --> 02:46:48.920
<v Speaker 1>rulers and powers that be would want nothing to do

2876
02:46:49.040 --> 02:46:51.639
<v Speaker 1>with this at all. Like that's where you're going with this.

2877
02:46:52.280 --> 02:46:54.319
<v Speaker 3>It has nothing to do with the rulers and powers

2878
02:46:54.319 --> 02:46:54.600
<v Speaker 3>that be.

2879
02:46:55.079 --> 02:46:58.360
<v Speaker 2>It was mostly biblical texts and then Hebrew literature, all

2880
02:46:58.399 --> 02:47:00.280
<v Speaker 2>of which we already have like the Book of Isah what.

2881
02:47:00.319 --> 02:47:02.520
<v Speaker 3>And like this is the first time somebody's found it.

2882
02:47:02.600 --> 02:47:04.959
<v Speaker 2>We already had it, like you know, all these other

2883
02:47:05.040 --> 02:47:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Hebrew literary sources. It's not like the Dead Sea Scrolls

2884
02:47:07.840 --> 02:47:09.159
<v Speaker 2>were the only copy of it.

2885
02:47:09.159 --> 02:47:11.840
<v Speaker 3>It's we have the complete edition in other places.

2886
02:47:12.200 --> 02:47:14.000
<v Speaker 2>This was just a thing to where they were able

2887
02:47:14.040 --> 02:47:16.239
<v Speaker 2>to carbon date back and be like, oh, this predates

2888
02:47:16.239 --> 02:47:18.319
<v Speaker 2>when we thought these were first written down and stuff

2889
02:47:18.360 --> 02:47:18.760
<v Speaker 2>by a bit.

2890
02:47:19.200 --> 02:47:20.520
<v Speaker 3>But it's not like this.

2891
02:47:20.559 --> 02:47:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Was some secret knowledge that no one had ever heard

2892
02:47:22.559 --> 02:47:25.079
<v Speaker 2>of before. That's my point. So to say that the

2893
02:47:25.159 --> 02:47:27.479
<v Speaker 2>Rockefellers found the Dead Sea Scrolls and were like, you

2894
02:47:27.520 --> 02:47:30.600
<v Speaker 2>can't release that, all of that info is already out

2895
02:47:30.719 --> 02:47:34.760
<v Speaker 2>for centuries. So it's not it's not a thing like that, But.

2896
02:47:34.920 --> 02:47:38.639
<v Speaker 1>We do accept that certain things were correct. Me if

2897
02:47:38.639 --> 02:47:41.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm wrong, I don't know what your opinion is on this.

2898
02:47:42.239 --> 02:47:44.879
<v Speaker 1>I and many others are of the opinion that the

2899
02:47:44.920 --> 02:47:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Bible has absolutely been tampered with one way or another,

2900
02:47:48.600 --> 02:47:53.399
<v Speaker 1>through through language or on purpose or whatever. Right like

2901
02:47:53.440 --> 02:47:56.239
<v Speaker 1>they're they're you look at the Ethiopian Bible has I

2902
02:47:56.239 --> 02:47:59.239
<v Speaker 1>think eighty two books. The King James version has sixty

2903
02:47:59.280 --> 02:48:02.799
<v Speaker 1>six books. You look at the Dead Sea Scrolls. There's

2904
02:48:03.000 --> 02:48:06.680
<v Speaker 1>stories in there that are supposedly from the apocrypha, right.

2905
02:48:06.680 --> 02:48:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Like, No, No, that's the Knagamati text. That's the apocrypha

2906
02:48:10.520 --> 02:48:12.719
<v Speaker 2>and the Gnostics and stuff. The Dead Sea Scrolls are

2907
02:48:12.719 --> 02:48:13.239
<v Speaker 2>a different thing.

2908
02:48:13.360 --> 02:48:17.280
<v Speaker 1>No, Nagamadi is not apocrypha. They have Gnostic texts within it.

2909
02:48:18.479 --> 02:48:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Nagamati is Gnostic, not apocrypha. Those are two different things.

2910
02:48:22.319 --> 02:48:24.639
<v Speaker 2>They don't have any apocryphal books within it. They don't

2911
02:48:24.639 --> 02:48:26.319
<v Speaker 2>have the Book of Enoch in the Nagamati.

2912
02:48:26.360 --> 02:48:27.079
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was a.

2913
02:48:27.000 --> 02:48:29.760
<v Speaker 3>Part of the collection. No, no, no, no, okay.

2914
02:48:29.879 --> 02:48:32.799
<v Speaker 1>So my point is the Dead Sea Scrolls didn't have

2915
02:48:32.879 --> 02:48:35.399
<v Speaker 1>anything that was new in groundbreaking.

2916
02:48:36.040 --> 02:48:36.680
<v Speaker 3>That's my point.

2917
02:48:36.760 --> 02:48:38.600
<v Speaker 2>So to say that it was being covered up is

2918
02:48:38.639 --> 02:48:42.360
<v Speaker 2>that that's ridiculous. That nowhere was anyone trying to cover

2919
02:48:42.520 --> 02:48:45.600
<v Speaker 2>up texts and literature that we already knew and had

2920
02:48:45.680 --> 02:48:47.120
<v Speaker 2>scholarly subjects on.

2921
02:48:47.440 --> 02:48:50.799
<v Speaker 1>Yet there are more books in there, oh.

2922
02:48:50.680 --> 02:48:53.600
<v Speaker 2>The Catholic Bible, than there is in the King James Bible.

2923
02:48:53.600 --> 02:48:55.959
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not here to debate on the number of books,

2924
02:48:55.959 --> 02:48:58.159
<v Speaker 2>but as far as like to your point, the Bible

2925
02:48:58.200 --> 02:48:59.959
<v Speaker 2>has been tampered with in some way.

2926
02:49:00.239 --> 02:49:01.840
<v Speaker 1>If we're talking about the removal.

2927
02:49:01.479 --> 02:49:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Of certain books, okay, and there's reasons for that, on

2928
02:49:05.040 --> 02:49:06.319
<v Speaker 2>which council you talk to.

2929
02:49:07.200 --> 02:49:08.120
<v Speaker 3>Very few passages.

2930
02:49:08.159 --> 02:49:09.680
<v Speaker 2>There's only a few that I can even think of

2931
02:49:09.680 --> 02:49:11.680
<v Speaker 2>to where it was removed and it doesn't actually take

2932
02:49:11.719 --> 02:49:13.920
<v Speaker 2>away anything, but I personally am of.

2933
02:49:13.879 --> 02:49:15.120
<v Speaker 3>The belief it should have been left alone.

2934
02:49:15.120 --> 02:49:19.440
<v Speaker 2>But fine, the language transference, We've talked about this too.

2935
02:49:19.559 --> 02:49:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Most of the changes are very subjectual, right, So like

2936
02:49:24.399 --> 02:49:29.000
<v Speaker 2>to say that there's one it says, Jesus knocks at

2937
02:49:29.040 --> 02:49:30.840
<v Speaker 2>the door, but you have to let him in. I'm paraphrasing,

2938
02:49:30.920 --> 02:49:33.920
<v Speaker 2>ladies and gentlemen, just bear with me. Here in some

2939
02:49:34.000 --> 02:49:36.920
<v Speaker 2>country in Africa, even the thieves knock on the door.

2940
02:49:37.200 --> 02:49:39.680
<v Speaker 2>So they changed that from knocking at the door to

2941
02:49:39.840 --> 02:49:42.200
<v Speaker 2>even Jesus coughs at the door, because that's how they

2942
02:49:42.200 --> 02:49:44.600
<v Speaker 2>announce themselves whenever they walk up. Is they like coughing,

2943
02:49:44.719 --> 02:49:47.920
<v Speaker 2>like before they walk inside. So they're saying that Jesus

2944
02:49:48.239 --> 02:49:51.600
<v Speaker 2>coughs at the door. Now, is that they mistranslated? Why

2945
02:49:51.680 --> 02:49:52.479
<v Speaker 2>is Jesus coughing?

2946
02:49:52.600 --> 02:49:53.040
<v Speaker 9>Is he's sick?

2947
02:49:53.079 --> 02:49:53.200
<v Speaker 1>No?

2948
02:49:53.200 --> 02:49:55.920
<v Speaker 2>No, it's the context for the subject matter to which

2949
02:49:55.959 --> 02:49:58.280
<v Speaker 2>the audience will gain the most out of it.

2950
02:49:58.680 --> 02:50:00.799
<v Speaker 3>So like things like that. Fine, but we've even talked

2951
02:50:00.799 --> 02:50:01.159
<v Speaker 3>about this.

2952
02:50:01.239 --> 02:50:03.920
<v Speaker 2>If a glass is ninety eight percent full, would you

2953
02:50:03.959 --> 02:50:05.879
<v Speaker 2>consider that glass empty or full?

2954
02:50:08.120 --> 02:50:12.799
<v Speaker 1>My point is it's not neither. Really, if we're looking

2955
02:50:13.120 --> 02:50:18.200
<v Speaker 1>for absolute truth, ninety eight percent is never absolute. Would

2956
02:50:18.239 --> 02:50:18.959
<v Speaker 1>you agree with that?

2957
02:50:19.760 --> 02:50:22.159
<v Speaker 2>I would say that a gun that fires ninety eight

2958
02:50:22.159 --> 02:50:24.600
<v Speaker 2>percent of the time is a pretty decently firing weapon.

2959
02:50:24.760 --> 02:50:28.479
<v Speaker 1>It's not automatic. It's not the alpha and the omega, sir,

2960
02:50:28.680 --> 02:50:32.159
<v Speaker 1>because you would say alpha and omeg maybe, but you can't.

2961
02:50:32.200 --> 02:50:34.200
<v Speaker 1>You can't take that a with you. It's not the

2962
02:50:34.239 --> 02:50:34.760
<v Speaker 1>whole thing.

2963
02:50:35.600 --> 02:50:37.959
<v Speaker 2>It's not supposed to be the all encompassing start to

2964
02:50:37.959 --> 02:50:40.079
<v Speaker 2>finish story of everything. It's supposed to be the portion

2965
02:50:40.280 --> 02:50:42.680
<v Speaker 2>teach us what we need to know, right, And I

2966
02:50:42.719 --> 02:50:45.440
<v Speaker 2>do believe that, yes, some language transference has happened, and

2967
02:50:45.840 --> 02:50:48.639
<v Speaker 2>maybe some things were lost in context, but especially in

2968
02:50:48.680 --> 02:50:52.120
<v Speaker 2>the day and age we live now, we have Greek translations,

2969
02:50:52.120 --> 02:50:55.000
<v Speaker 2>we have Hebrew translations, we have Aramic translations. So like,

2970
02:50:55.079 --> 02:50:57.680
<v Speaker 2>even if somebody is questioning the true intent of these things,

2971
02:50:58.040 --> 02:50:59.319
<v Speaker 2>you can go back and just go look.

2972
02:50:59.760 --> 02:51:04.799
<v Speaker 1>But no, those are Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek translations. Most

2973
02:51:04.840 --> 02:51:07.760
<v Speaker 1>people don't speak those languages, so you have to rely

2974
02:51:08.040 --> 02:51:11.040
<v Speaker 1>on the people that were translating it into other languages

2975
02:51:11.079 --> 02:51:12.040
<v Speaker 1>at that point. Am I right?

2976
02:51:12.520 --> 02:51:12.639
<v Speaker 9>No?

2977
02:51:12.680 --> 02:51:15.319
<v Speaker 2>But you could it's a different languages and translate it yourself,

2978
02:51:15.520 --> 02:51:17.760
<v Speaker 2>and like you could tell from experts that do this,

2979
02:51:17.840 --> 02:51:19.799
<v Speaker 2>and like, Okay, they didn't throw their own flavor on it.

2980
02:51:19.760 --> 02:51:22.120
<v Speaker 3>Because nobody's gonna speak Hebrew anyway. I'm just gonna put

2981
02:51:22.120 --> 02:51:22.399
<v Speaker 3>this in.

2982
02:51:22.799 --> 02:51:24.879
<v Speaker 1>Like, there's a lot of fact checking that goes down

2983
02:51:24.920 --> 02:51:29.159
<v Speaker 1>on that, sure, but there's also different ways of how

2984
02:51:29.200 --> 02:51:33.000
<v Speaker 1>you would say something only understood by those specific languages.

2985
02:51:33.000 --> 02:51:35.520
<v Speaker 1>There's a certain dialect, you know that, I mean, there's

2986
02:51:35.520 --> 02:51:38.479
<v Speaker 1>certain dialect. I was married to a fucking Portuguese, a

2987
02:51:38.520 --> 02:51:41.639
<v Speaker 1>Brazilian woman who spokes Portuguese. There are some things that

2988
02:51:41.920 --> 02:51:44.840
<v Speaker 1>don't translate. There are some things that are funny to

2989
02:51:44.879 --> 02:51:48.040
<v Speaker 1>them that wouldn't be funny to us if translated exactly

2990
02:51:48.079 --> 02:51:51.079
<v Speaker 1>how it's supposed to. There are certain dialects within language

2991
02:51:51.120 --> 02:51:53.799
<v Speaker 1>that don't transfer over, and that's not going to be

2992
02:51:53.840 --> 02:51:57.639
<v Speaker 1>transferred directly into the language that we speak. No.

2993
02:51:57.639 --> 02:51:59.639
<v Speaker 2>No, there's like turns of phrases and things like that

2994
02:52:00.159 --> 02:52:03.159
<v Speaker 2>percent that don't transfer well from one language to another.

2995
02:52:03.319 --> 02:52:04.920
<v Speaker 2>So they try to do the best they can to

2996
02:52:05.040 --> 02:52:07.360
<v Speaker 2>give a comparative turn of phrase to make the point

2997
02:52:07.360 --> 02:52:09.440
<v Speaker 2>that is supposed to be made. And then you could

2998
02:52:09.440 --> 02:52:11.280
<v Speaker 2>go back and look at the original translation and look

2999
02:52:11.319 --> 02:52:13.959
<v Speaker 2>at the context, and look at your translation and look

3000
02:52:13.959 --> 02:52:16.399
<v Speaker 2>at the context it means to you, and it matches

3001
02:52:16.479 --> 02:52:18.639
<v Speaker 2>up like that's my point. And this has been proven

3002
02:52:18.680 --> 02:52:21.360
<v Speaker 2>time and time again. But neither here nor there. This

3003
02:52:21.399 --> 02:52:22.879
<v Speaker 2>guy's kind of hasn't been.

3004
02:52:22.760 --> 02:52:24.959
<v Speaker 1>Proven time and time again, or else there wouldn't be

3005
02:52:25.120 --> 02:52:28.959
<v Speaker 1>ten thousand different versions of the fucking Bible. There wouldn't

3006
02:52:28.959 --> 02:52:32.360
<v Speaker 1>be not ten thousand different versions, ten thousand different understandings

3007
02:52:32.360 --> 02:52:36.239
<v Speaker 1>of the Bible. If it's understood, it should be understood,

3008
02:52:36.479 --> 02:52:39.319
<v Speaker 1>Am I right? It's like anybody anybody that can look

3009
02:52:39.360 --> 02:52:42.000
<v Speaker 1>at a math equation, You're not gonna find a thousand

3010
02:52:42.000 --> 02:52:44.440
<v Speaker 1>different ways to break down that one said math equation

3011
02:52:44.559 --> 02:52:46.399
<v Speaker 1>to get ten thousand different ways to get the same

3012
02:52:46.440 --> 02:52:49.559
<v Speaker 1>exact answer. You're going to use one plus one will

3013
02:52:49.600 --> 02:52:52.959
<v Speaker 1>always equal to It's not one plus one minus one

3014
02:52:53.040 --> 02:52:55.520
<v Speaker 1>plus one. You know what I'm saying. You wouldn't jump

3015
02:52:55.639 --> 02:52:57.600
<v Speaker 1>through all those hoops. You would condense it down to

3016
02:52:57.639 --> 02:52:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the easiest version, and that's how you would get the ant.

3017
02:53:00.479 --> 02:53:04.639
<v Speaker 1>So it is not like that, none of them when

3018
02:53:04.680 --> 02:53:07.120
<v Speaker 1>they condense it down. We have people that argue, well,

3019
02:53:07.159 --> 02:53:09.440
<v Speaker 1>they took away all these other math problems to get

3020
02:53:09.440 --> 02:53:10.760
<v Speaker 1>to this condensed version.

3021
02:53:11.079 --> 02:53:12.879
<v Speaker 3>Why they just give us the condensed version.

3022
02:53:12.920 --> 02:53:15.319
<v Speaker 2>It's like, well, do you want the whole equation or

3023
02:53:15.319 --> 02:53:16.520
<v Speaker 2>do you want the condensed version.

3024
02:53:16.840 --> 02:53:20.159
<v Speaker 3>Both will give you the same answer. It's just more step.

3025
02:53:20.239 --> 02:53:21.840
<v Speaker 1>They give you the same answer there. So there's only

3026
02:53:21.920 --> 02:53:26.239
<v Speaker 1>one religion to Christianity, there should be Yes, that's what

3027
02:53:26.319 --> 02:53:29.319
<v Speaker 1>every every religion would say.

3028
02:53:29.840 --> 02:53:32.079
<v Speaker 2>There is Jesus. That's the only standard as far as

3029
02:53:32.159 --> 02:53:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Christianity is concerned. All the excess is just dogma and

3030
02:53:35.120 --> 02:53:37.079
<v Speaker 2>ritual that's thrown on by human beings.

3031
02:53:37.159 --> 02:53:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's different levels of interpreted of and even interpreting

3032
02:53:40.239 --> 02:53:41.879
<v Speaker 1>what Jesus was saying.

3033
02:53:42.239 --> 02:53:45.159
<v Speaker 2>Once again by people throwing on human understanding to a

3034
02:53:45.159 --> 02:53:46.479
<v Speaker 2>divine message.

3035
02:53:46.319 --> 02:53:48.479
<v Speaker 1>How do you but you're to rely on your own

3036
02:53:48.559 --> 02:53:52.280
<v Speaker 1>human understanding that your version is the most correct? Absolutely not,

3037
02:53:52.319 --> 02:53:54.600
<v Speaker 1>it says, do not rely on your own understanding. So

3038
02:53:54.680 --> 02:53:56.879
<v Speaker 1>how can you be so How can you be so

3039
02:53:56.920 --> 02:53:59.840
<v Speaker 1>sure that everybody else is wrong? It's not every I'm

3040
02:53:59.840 --> 02:54:02.000
<v Speaker 1>not saying that I'm the only one that's right. Just

3041
02:54:02.159 --> 02:54:04.319
<v Speaker 1>there's only one way to understand it, yet there are

3042
02:54:04.360 --> 02:54:06.000
<v Speaker 1>thousands of different ways to understand it.

3043
02:54:06.600 --> 02:54:08.520
<v Speaker 2>There's a bunch of people that are trying to understand

3044
02:54:08.559 --> 02:54:10.399
<v Speaker 2>the message of Jesus, but they're looking at it through

3045
02:54:10.440 --> 02:54:13.840
<v Speaker 2>different lenses. It's like using a filter on a camera,

3046
02:54:14.200 --> 02:54:16.399
<v Speaker 2>using the CPIA filter, you're using the black and white filter,

3047
02:54:16.440 --> 02:54:18.239
<v Speaker 2>You're using the Snapchat filter.

3048
02:54:18.360 --> 02:54:20.559
<v Speaker 3>Look, you're taking away from the fucking picture.

3049
02:54:20.639 --> 02:54:20.920
<v Speaker 11>Dude.

3050
02:54:21.840 --> 02:54:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I don't know. I just wanted to bring it up.

3051
02:54:23.840 --> 02:54:26.239
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was interesting. Hopefully everybody got a little

3052
02:54:26.280 --> 02:54:28.879
<v Speaker 1>something from this Valley and Thors story. Maybe it's bullshit,

3053
02:54:28.959 --> 02:54:31.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's real. My point is is that you can't

3054
02:54:31.879 --> 02:54:36.200
<v Speaker 1>look at every single alien UFO story out there and

3055
02:54:36.239 --> 02:54:40.120
<v Speaker 1>call them all bullshit and then say I believe in Aliens.

3056
02:54:40.399 --> 02:54:43.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry that math don't math to me, brother, No,

3057
02:54:43.520 --> 02:54:44.079
<v Speaker 1>not at all.

3058
02:54:44.120 --> 02:54:46.600
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not even saying that this dude's start to

3059
02:54:46.639 --> 02:54:49.239
<v Speaker 2>finish full of shit. I found a lot of flaws

3060
02:54:49.239 --> 02:54:51.840
<v Speaker 2>in his story, and again, this doesn't take away from

3061
02:54:51.840 --> 02:54:53.559
<v Speaker 2>the tree that we've talked about. I do believe that

3062
02:54:53.559 --> 02:54:56.159
<v Speaker 2>Eisenhower probably met up with aliens because we have found

3063
02:54:56.200 --> 02:54:59.360
<v Speaker 2>so many disclosed documents from Foyer requests that were talking

3064
02:54:59.440 --> 02:55:03.239
<v Speaker 2>about that took place where they guaranteed did make interface

3065
02:55:03.360 --> 02:55:05.200
<v Speaker 2>with some sort of extraterrestrial beings.

3066
02:55:05.239 --> 02:55:06.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm not denying that whatsoever.

3067
02:55:07.159 --> 02:55:09.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying that this guy is the only source for

3068
02:55:09.520 --> 02:55:11.159
<v Speaker 2>the information that has been given out.

3069
02:55:11.559 --> 02:55:12.760
<v Speaker 1>There's almost no way to.

3070
02:55:12.719 --> 02:55:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Fact check anything, and I think we can all acknowledge

3071
02:55:15.719 --> 02:55:17.760
<v Speaker 2>that that's some massive red flags on the play for

3072
02:55:17.840 --> 02:55:18.600
<v Speaker 2>any situation.

3073
02:55:18.799 --> 02:55:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Sure, but as we saw earlier on in the episode,

3074
02:55:23.079 --> 02:55:25.680
<v Speaker 1>there were two other people that spoke out about it,

3075
02:55:25.719 --> 02:55:27.719
<v Speaker 1>and they just so happened to get merked in the

3076
02:55:27.760 --> 02:55:31.479
<v Speaker 1>following weeks, so there is reason to not talk about it.

3077
02:55:32.040 --> 02:55:35.639
<v Speaker 2>They weren't speaking about this guy. They were speaking about

3078
02:55:35.680 --> 02:55:38.399
<v Speaker 2>the Eisenhower conversation. None of them are a valiant thor

3079
02:55:39.040 --> 02:55:41.479
<v Speaker 2>They were talking about the Grays that had the underground bases,

3080
02:55:41.520 --> 02:55:43.639
<v Speaker 2>and we're doing human splicing and human aductions.

3081
02:55:43.879 --> 02:55:44.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm way more.

3082
02:55:44.440 --> 02:55:46.319
<v Speaker 1>Inclined to believe the story of the two dead guys

3083
02:55:46.520 --> 02:55:52.799
<v Speaker 1>than the dude that was grifting on stage. That's just crazy.

3084
02:55:53.600 --> 02:55:55.719
<v Speaker 2>It's more crazy to you to believe that there's some

3085
02:55:55.799 --> 02:55:58.719
<v Speaker 2>alien that's trying to teach us enlightenment. That sounds more

3086
02:55:58.760 --> 02:56:01.040
<v Speaker 2>believable to you than aliens that came down here to

3087
02:56:01.079 --> 02:56:03.120
<v Speaker 2>make a deal for weapons and technology so they could

3088
02:56:03.120 --> 02:56:03.840
<v Speaker 2>do experiments.

3089
02:56:03.959 --> 02:56:08.319
<v Speaker 1>Yes, because there is proof of quote unquote aliens enlightened beings,

3090
02:56:08.399 --> 02:56:12.559
<v Speaker 1>spiritual masters, they of the that happening in the past.

3091
02:56:12.680 --> 02:56:14.879
<v Speaker 1>Why are they spiritual masters and ascended?

3092
02:56:14.959 --> 02:56:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Why when did that come up?

3093
02:56:16.040 --> 02:56:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Aliens do not mean that they are spiritually ascended masters.

3094
02:56:19.159 --> 02:56:21.920
<v Speaker 2>The two don't have to be connected, but there can

3095
02:56:21.959 --> 02:56:23.319
<v Speaker 2>be overlap.

3096
02:56:24.479 --> 02:56:26.399
<v Speaker 1>Why would there be, I don't know. Why do you

3097
02:56:26.440 --> 02:56:29.040
<v Speaker 1>believe in Jesus? Is that not a spiritual fucking master?

3098
02:56:29.159 --> 02:56:29.319
<v Speaker 9>Bro?

3099
02:56:29.840 --> 02:56:32.959
<v Speaker 3>No, not at all. That's not He's not a Seti

3100
02:56:33.040 --> 02:56:34.120
<v Speaker 3>or a guru. Dude.

3101
02:56:34.639 --> 02:56:36.799
<v Speaker 1>No, So you don't believe that. You don't believe that

3102
02:56:36.840 --> 02:56:40.079
<v Speaker 1>Buddha was ever a guy Jesus, But I don't think

3103
02:56:40.120 --> 02:56:40.639
<v Speaker 1>that he was.

3104
02:56:40.920 --> 02:56:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was an enlightened guy, but I don't think

3105
02:56:42.719 --> 02:56:44.760
<v Speaker 2>that he had some sort of divine message. Now, so

3106
02:56:44.840 --> 02:56:47.920
<v Speaker 2>there's never been any such thing as any kind of

3107
02:56:48.479 --> 02:56:50.360
<v Speaker 2>divine teacher, divine master at all.

3108
02:56:50.959 --> 02:56:53.600
<v Speaker 3>But why are aliens those things? Is my question?

3109
02:56:53.719 --> 02:56:56.520
<v Speaker 2>Why are the aliens here to teach us anything of spirituality?

3110
02:56:56.520 --> 02:56:58.399
<v Speaker 2>Why would they give a fuck? If they have the

3111
02:56:58.440 --> 02:57:01.520
<v Speaker 2>technology to transfer space to get to us, why the

3112
02:57:01.600 --> 02:57:03.360
<v Speaker 2>fuck would they be coming here to teach us something

3113
02:57:03.399 --> 02:57:05.360
<v Speaker 2>about spirituality or morality?

3114
02:57:05.879 --> 02:57:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Why do we train dogs not to piss in the

3115
02:57:08.079 --> 02:57:09.680
<v Speaker 1>fucking house, bro, Because I.

3116
02:57:09.639 --> 02:57:11.239
<v Speaker 3>Don't want to clean up their fucking piss. It's not

3117
02:57:11.319 --> 02:57:11.959
<v Speaker 3>to teach them how.

3118
02:57:11.840 --> 02:57:14.120
<v Speaker 1>To be a moral dog, exactly. They don't want to

3119
02:57:14.120 --> 02:57:16.799
<v Speaker 1>clean up our piss with the nukes and the explosions,

3120
02:57:16.840 --> 02:57:18.600
<v Speaker 1>and they want everybody to get along. I don't know

3121
02:57:18.600 --> 02:57:19.159
<v Speaker 1>how that's.

3122
02:57:18.959 --> 02:57:21.799
<v Speaker 2>So hard to believe because the dog lives in my house.

3123
02:57:22.920 --> 02:57:25.040
<v Speaker 2>Are you saying that we are living in the alien's planet.

3124
02:57:25.440 --> 02:57:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that we absolutely would live within a solar

3125
02:57:29.959 --> 02:57:33.360
<v Speaker 1>system of possible dimensions that may send ripples throughout all

3126
02:57:33.399 --> 02:57:34.079
<v Speaker 1>of eternity.

3127
02:57:34.920 --> 02:57:38.000
<v Speaker 2>But again, we're talking about non interdimensional aliens. We're talking

3128
02:57:38.040 --> 02:57:40.120
<v Speaker 2>about ones that came to this Earth with the body's

3129
02:57:40.120 --> 02:57:42.799
<v Speaker 2>physical forms, right, and they could touch and talk and

3130
02:57:42.879 --> 02:57:45.440
<v Speaker 2>all that. We're not talking about like a seventh dimensional

3131
02:57:45.559 --> 02:57:48.920
<v Speaker 2>entity that comes down and like all these other things.

3132
02:57:49.120 --> 02:57:50.920
<v Speaker 1>We would also be able to do that.

3133
02:57:50.879 --> 02:57:52.440
<v Speaker 3>Though, would they?

3134
02:57:52.719 --> 02:57:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Why wouldn't they?

3135
02:57:54.680 --> 02:57:55.040
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

3136
02:57:55.079 --> 02:57:57.639
<v Speaker 2>Because a third dimensional entity can't bring itself down to

3137
02:57:57.680 --> 02:57:59.879
<v Speaker 2>a one dimensional plane and have a conversation with a

3138
02:58:00.040 --> 02:58:05.600
<v Speaker 2>line segment. I disagree because and as I referenced before

3139
02:58:05.799 --> 02:58:08.760
<v Speaker 2>that I did a Meta Mysteries episode on red shift

3140
02:58:08.760 --> 02:58:13.239
<v Speaker 2>and blue shift, you would also agree that within I mean,

3141
02:58:13.559 --> 02:58:15.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe you wouldn't agree on this, but

3142
02:58:15.879 --> 02:58:21.399
<v Speaker 2>whenever would you agree that whenever you are praying that

3143
02:58:21.639 --> 02:58:25.680
<v Speaker 2>you are somewhat within God's presence?

3144
02:58:27.639 --> 02:58:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's not a dimensional shift?

3145
02:58:30.040 --> 02:58:32.639
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I retiely God is in the third dimension with us,

3146
02:58:32.680 --> 02:58:34.520
<v Speaker 2>so like right now, we're in God's presence.

3147
02:58:35.680 --> 02:58:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I could get down with that. My point is

3148
02:58:39.440 --> 02:58:42.959
<v Speaker 1>is that maybe by I'm not even trying to get

3149
02:58:42.959 --> 02:58:44.559
<v Speaker 1>super woo woo right here, but I just got to

3150
02:58:44.559 --> 02:58:48.399
<v Speaker 1>get it out. If we are talking about interdimensional or interplanetary,

3151
02:58:48.440 --> 02:58:53.159
<v Speaker 1>intergalactic or whatever, maybe the three could all be the

3152
02:58:53.200 --> 02:58:56.520
<v Speaker 1>same thing in different variations. I'm not saying that this

3153
02:58:56.600 --> 02:58:59.040
<v Speaker 1>guy brought up the Dead Sea Scrolls to get people

3154
02:58:59.079 --> 02:59:02.600
<v Speaker 1>onto a religious common conversation, to completely detract from everything.

3155
02:59:02.280 --> 02:59:04.920
<v Speaker 2>He said in the beginning about an alien conversation. I

3156
02:59:04.920 --> 02:59:08.399
<v Speaker 2>think he did that on purpose. That's grifter mentality, that's

3157
02:59:08.600 --> 02:59:10.159
<v Speaker 2>that's the sleight of hand. I'm going to give you

3158
02:59:10.159 --> 02:59:13.239
<v Speaker 2>all this information about aliens and then we'll talk about Bible.

3159
02:59:13.280 --> 02:59:15.440
<v Speaker 2>What about the alien night's over here? We're talking Bible now,

3160
02:59:15.520 --> 02:59:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Like I think that that was actually a part of

3161
02:59:17.079 --> 02:59:17.559
<v Speaker 2>his planets.

3162
02:59:17.639 --> 02:59:21.920
<v Speaker 1>But if you believe that Christianity is the truth, if

3163
02:59:21.920 --> 02:59:24.520
<v Speaker 1>you believe nothing to do with aliens, hold on, why

3164
02:59:24.559 --> 02:59:28.920
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't it you just said, you've always said that Jesus

3165
02:59:28.920 --> 02:59:31.280
<v Speaker 1>had to leave to tend to people, not of this flock.

3166
02:59:32.600 --> 02:59:34.079
<v Speaker 3>What he meant the people in heaven.

3167
02:59:34.159 --> 02:59:36.120
<v Speaker 2>It might very well be the souls that died that

3168
02:59:36.200 --> 02:59:38.200
<v Speaker 2>he brought to heaven with him when he went up.

3169
02:59:38.239 --> 02:59:40.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know Jesus what the Mormons have it right,

3170
02:59:40.719 --> 02:59:42.479
<v Speaker 2>and he came to talk to Native Americans.

3171
02:59:42.520 --> 02:59:44.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't believe so, But like, all right.

3172
02:59:44.239 --> 02:59:47.000
<v Speaker 1>So God and Jesus only care about humans on Earth,

3173
02:59:47.000 --> 02:59:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and not all the rest of all creation within all universes,

3174
02:59:50.040 --> 02:59:50.840
<v Speaker 1>in all galaxies.

3175
02:59:51.319 --> 02:59:53.079
<v Speaker 3>No, there's tons of hypotheticals on this.

3176
02:59:53.159 --> 02:59:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Is it possible that these other planets never had their

3177
02:59:55.879 --> 02:59:58.200
<v Speaker 2>fall from grace and they're still living in their utopian

3178
02:59:58.239 --> 02:59:59.000
<v Speaker 2>garden of Eden.

3179
02:59:58.879 --> 02:59:59.479
<v Speaker 3>Type of place.

3180
02:59:59.760 --> 03:00:02.360
<v Speaker 2>Is it possible that they wipe themselves out to such

3181
03:00:02.399 --> 03:00:05.399
<v Speaker 2>a genocidal degree that Jesus had to make an appearance there?

3182
03:00:05.680 --> 03:00:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Is it possible that.

3183
03:00:06.559 --> 03:00:08.600
<v Speaker 2>They present themselves in some other way? And maybe it

3184
03:00:08.680 --> 03:00:11.399
<v Speaker 2>wasn't God's son that he sent, but maybe other messagers

3185
03:00:11.399 --> 03:00:13.079
<v Speaker 2>and prophets that they actually listened to.

3186
03:00:13.399 --> 03:00:13.959
<v Speaker 3>You understand, the.

3187
03:00:13.959 --> 03:00:15.799
<v Speaker 2>Only reason why Jesus had to come down is because

3188
03:00:15.840 --> 03:00:18.000
<v Speaker 2>all the other messages God gave to the people they

3189
03:00:18.040 --> 03:00:21.639
<v Speaker 2>just didn't fucking listen to. He sent prophets, he sent messengers,

3190
03:00:21.799 --> 03:00:24.280
<v Speaker 2>he sent enlightened people, as you would say, and the

3191
03:00:24.319 --> 03:00:27.000
<v Speaker 2>people just consistently said, nah, fuck that, and then they

3192
03:00:27.079 --> 03:00:29.120
<v Speaker 2>killed them. So he was like, well, the only way

3193
03:00:29.120 --> 03:00:30.719
<v Speaker 2>these people are gonna get saved is if I do

3194
03:00:30.840 --> 03:00:33.159
<v Speaker 2>this thing. Is it possible that other planets might have

3195
03:00:33.280 --> 03:00:35.840
<v Speaker 2>listened to the wise people? I don't know, It's all

3196
03:00:35.920 --> 03:00:37.559
<v Speaker 2>these are all very big hypotheticals.

3197
03:00:37.600 --> 03:00:42.399
<v Speaker 1>I would I would absolutely subject to say, suffice to

3198
03:00:42.479 --> 03:00:47.000
<v Speaker 1>say that every single people, of every single race, of

3199
03:00:47.079 --> 03:00:50.719
<v Speaker 1>every single planet of every single galaxy, if given the

3200
03:00:50.760 --> 03:00:54.079
<v Speaker 1>same opportunity in the Garden of Eden, there would have

3201
03:00:54.280 --> 03:00:57.399
<v Speaker 1>every single time been somebody who was a little curious

3202
03:00:57.440 --> 03:00:59.479
<v Speaker 1>about what was on that other tree that shouldn't have

3203
03:00:59.479 --> 03:01:03.040
<v Speaker 1>been touched. And if that, I can go on and

3204
03:01:03.079 --> 03:01:05.079
<v Speaker 1>on and on about this whole Adam and Eves story,

3205
03:01:05.239 --> 03:01:07.760
<v Speaker 1>because that is the most fucked up story probably in

3206
03:01:08.799 --> 03:01:12.200
<v Speaker 1>history if you really think about it. Why Because you

3207
03:01:12.319 --> 03:01:16.040
<v Speaker 1>got the all knowing creator saying, yes, I'm gonna give

3208
03:01:16.040 --> 03:01:18.639
<v Speaker 1>you free will. I'm gonna give you two different choices.

3209
03:01:18.840 --> 03:01:20.680
<v Speaker 1>You can eat from this one. If you do that,

3210
03:01:20.719 --> 03:01:22.680
<v Speaker 1>then you're a good little boy and you'll be able

3211
03:01:22.680 --> 03:01:24.200
<v Speaker 1>to stay and eat. And if you eat from this

3212
03:01:24.319 --> 03:01:26.559
<v Speaker 1>other one, then you will be condemned to hell, and

3213
03:01:26.600 --> 03:01:29.440
<v Speaker 1>not only you, but every other person that ever exists

3214
03:01:29.440 --> 03:01:32.440
<v Speaker 1>after you. It will be original sin, and every single

3215
03:01:32.520 --> 03:01:34.760
<v Speaker 1>person will be condemned to sin.

3216
03:01:35.159 --> 03:01:38.239
<v Speaker 2>So, no matter what, So wouldn't that be crazy if

3217
03:01:38.280 --> 03:01:42.559
<v Speaker 2>they just like chose correctly, It's crazy. Like he gave

3218
03:01:42.600 --> 03:01:44.639
<v Speaker 2>them the two choices and they chose the wrong path.

3219
03:01:44.719 --> 03:01:46.520
<v Speaker 2>That was what's hard to believe about.

3220
03:01:46.280 --> 03:01:49.719
<v Speaker 1>This because you've chosen correctly on every single thing and

3221
03:01:49.799 --> 03:01:50.559
<v Speaker 1>in your life.

3222
03:01:50.799 --> 03:01:53.319
<v Speaker 3>That's no, I'm a sinner. I'm very open about that.

3223
03:01:53.719 --> 03:01:56.600
<v Speaker 1>You can't say free will and then condemn if you

3224
03:01:56.680 --> 03:01:58.760
<v Speaker 1>choose the wrong one. That's not how that works.

3225
03:01:59.399 --> 03:02:01.479
<v Speaker 2>That is absolutely how it works. You have free will

3226
03:02:01.559 --> 03:02:03.760
<v Speaker 2>right now to live your life and not commit crime.

3227
03:02:03.799 --> 03:02:05.760
<v Speaker 2>But if you choose with your free will to commit

3228
03:02:05.799 --> 03:02:06.840
<v Speaker 2>a crime, you'll go to jail.

3229
03:02:06.920 --> 03:02:12.559
<v Speaker 1>That I'm so confused here. That's a fucked up decision.

3230
03:02:12.600 --> 03:02:14.639
<v Speaker 3>Welcome to human existence, dude.

3231
03:02:15.000 --> 03:02:18.319
<v Speaker 1>No, anyway, So I just wanted to bring that up.

3232
03:02:18.360 --> 03:02:20.840
<v Speaker 1>We can get all philosophical all day on here, and

3233
03:02:20.879 --> 03:02:21.159
<v Speaker 1>we can.

3234
03:02:21.280 --> 03:02:23.799
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how this connects to aliens. Why did

3235
03:02:23.799 --> 03:02:24.319
<v Speaker 3>he do that?

3236
03:02:24.559 --> 03:02:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Why did he bring up biblical talking points and alter

3237
03:02:27.360 --> 03:02:30.079
<v Speaker 2>calls as he's trying to convince people of an alien

3238
03:02:30.120 --> 03:02:33.120
<v Speaker 2>that he met at the Pentagon? The two, like the

3239
03:02:33.159 --> 03:02:35.600
<v Speaker 2>Dead Sea scrolls, were not connected to your boy Thor

3240
03:02:35.760 --> 03:02:36.239
<v Speaker 2>at all.

3241
03:02:37.600 --> 03:02:41.159
<v Speaker 1>He because he asked Valian Thor said, all right, what

3242
03:02:41.360 --> 03:02:45.000
<v Speaker 1>do you want to read in this library? The guy said,

3243
03:02:45.639 --> 03:02:48.079
<v Speaker 1>if all of all the books that I could possibly

3244
03:02:48.159 --> 03:02:50.120
<v Speaker 1>ever have access to I want to see the Dead

3245
03:02:50.120 --> 03:02:52.959
<v Speaker 1>Sea scrolls. It was his decision. Valiant Thor didn't push

3246
03:02:53.000 --> 03:02:56.239
<v Speaker 1>that on him. That's what So he asked to see

3247
03:02:56.280 --> 03:02:58.639
<v Speaker 1>the Dead Sea scrolls, which are all okay, all right,

3248
03:02:59.760 --> 03:03:03.239
<v Speaker 1>because he believed that it was messed with. So that

3249
03:03:03.399 --> 03:03:05.879
<v Speaker 1>was the point. That was the whole point of that conversation.

3250
03:03:06.120 --> 03:03:08.760
<v Speaker 1>He's a fucking biblical guy. Of course he would be

3251
03:03:08.799 --> 03:03:10.319
<v Speaker 1>interested in something biblical.

3252
03:03:10.799 --> 03:03:14.000
<v Speaker 2>That's you know, he was trying hard to sell his book,

3253
03:03:14.040 --> 03:03:16.000
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, Which how many times have

3254
03:03:16.079 --> 03:03:18.719
<v Speaker 2>I even mentioned that about even pastors that like they'll

3255
03:03:18.760 --> 03:03:20.239
<v Speaker 2>do anything to sell their new book.

3256
03:03:20.280 --> 03:03:21.719
<v Speaker 3>I find this to be deplorable.

3257
03:03:22.000 --> 03:03:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Don't think that I'm just shitting on him because of

3258
03:03:23.680 --> 03:03:27.479
<v Speaker 2>some Enlightenment conversation. I have a serious problem with pastors

3259
03:03:27.520 --> 03:03:29.200
<v Speaker 2>that are doing anything they can to get rich.

3260
03:03:29.559 --> 03:03:34.920
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I actually have a problem with that

3261
03:03:35.000 --> 03:03:38.040
<v Speaker 1>sentiment as a matter of fact, because I think that

3262
03:03:39.319 --> 03:03:42.840
<v Speaker 1>there is a book, and there are let's just say,

3263
03:03:42.920 --> 03:03:46.559
<v Speaker 1>two thousand different ways of religions that are showing you

3264
03:03:46.680 --> 03:03:48.280
<v Speaker 1>how to look at said book.

3265
03:03:49.000 --> 03:03:52.520
<v Speaker 2>No one's getting rich off of selling Bibles. I'm talking

3266
03:03:52.559 --> 03:03:54.760
<v Speaker 2>about these people that write their own books and then

3267
03:03:54.760 --> 03:03:56.319
<v Speaker 2>throw a couple of verses in it and then call

3268
03:03:56.319 --> 03:03:58.440
<v Speaker 2>it a Christian book, and we'll go on these whole

3269
03:03:58.440 --> 03:04:00.680
<v Speaker 2>big speaking tours to pedal it in any where they can.

3270
03:04:00.760 --> 03:04:03.239
<v Speaker 1>It's like, bro, no one, I don't know. No one's

3271
03:04:03.280 --> 03:04:05.319
<v Speaker 1>getting rich off of selling Bibles.

3272
03:04:05.920 --> 03:04:06.600
<v Speaker 3>They shouldn't be.

3273
03:04:06.600 --> 03:04:08.120
<v Speaker 2>If anything, if you're going to make money off of it,

3274
03:04:08.159 --> 03:04:10.799
<v Speaker 2>you should be donating that to charity, if any if anything,

3275
03:04:10.840 --> 03:04:12.319
<v Speaker 2>I would think that would be the only way to

3276
03:04:12.360 --> 03:04:13.760
<v Speaker 2>do that. Yeah, the money it would take to like

3277
03:04:13.840 --> 03:04:17.319
<v Speaker 2>run the manufacturing facility to create them fine and paying

3278
03:04:17.319 --> 03:04:19.559
<v Speaker 2>the people that are working the machines level wage, Okay,

3279
03:04:19.559 --> 03:04:22.600
<v Speaker 2>I can understand that. But any excess you're making a

3280
03:04:22.680 --> 03:04:26.520
<v Speaker 2>profit from printing the Bible, yeah, that better be donated

3281
03:04:26.600 --> 03:04:29.799
<v Speaker 2>into the appropriate charity organizations and doing the Lord's work,

3282
03:04:29.879 --> 03:04:31.680
<v Speaker 2>not making anybody rich.

3283
03:04:31.840 --> 03:04:34.959
<v Speaker 1>That's going to assure you. People have gotten rich off

3284
03:04:35.000 --> 03:04:37.159
<v Speaker 1>of selling the Bible. The Bible is the most sold

3285
03:04:37.159 --> 03:04:38.799
<v Speaker 1>book in human history.

3286
03:04:38.879 --> 03:04:39.799
<v Speaker 3>And so they say that.

3287
03:04:40.159 --> 03:04:43.239
<v Speaker 1>So to say that nobody ever made money off of

3288
03:04:43.280 --> 03:04:47.040
<v Speaker 1>the most sold book in history is egregious.

3289
03:04:47.600 --> 03:04:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I would hope that the people that

3290
03:04:49.840 --> 03:04:52.600
<v Speaker 2>are printing it are donating the profits to charity. And

3291
03:04:52.639 --> 03:04:55.280
<v Speaker 2>worthy causes to do the Lord's work. If they are

3292
03:04:55.280 --> 03:04:58.840
<v Speaker 2>stacking the deck and making themselves rich by printing the Bible, yo,

3293
03:04:58.920 --> 03:05:00.520
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna get their own justice in the end.

3294
03:05:00.680 --> 03:05:01.520
<v Speaker 3>I fuck all that.

3295
03:05:01.639 --> 03:05:04.760
<v Speaker 1>But there's my point is is that there are people

3296
03:05:04.799 --> 03:05:07.920
<v Speaker 1>that have conversations about the Bible and their interpretation of

3297
03:05:07.920 --> 03:05:09.559
<v Speaker 1>the Bible. I don't think that they should have to

3298
03:05:09.600 --> 03:05:14.559
<v Speaker 1>do that for free necessarily. Thing about Josh Monday, for example,

3299
03:05:14.639 --> 03:05:18.159
<v Speaker 1>we have him on twice a week for eight times

3300
03:05:18.200 --> 03:05:22.479
<v Speaker 1>a month. Do we ask him to do that for free? No?

3301
03:05:22.479 --> 03:05:25.520
<v Speaker 3>No, of course not. He's an affiliate of ours.

3302
03:05:26.040 --> 03:05:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Right, But he's talking about the Bible, so he could

3303
03:05:28.360 --> 03:05:30.959
<v Speaker 2>run whatever he wants in that program. If he decides

3304
03:05:31.000 --> 03:05:33.040
<v Speaker 2>to do a Bible study, then excellent. If he wants

3305
03:05:33.079 --> 03:05:35.680
<v Speaker 2>to talk about biblical flat earth, excellent. If he wants,

3306
03:05:35.760 --> 03:05:37.600
<v Speaker 2>we give him the slot because we love him as

3307
03:05:37.600 --> 03:05:37.959
<v Speaker 2>a person.

3308
03:05:38.200 --> 03:05:38.600
<v Speaker 9>Agreed.

3309
03:05:38.799 --> 03:05:41.360
<v Speaker 2>That's not the same as somebody who is making money

3310
03:05:41.440 --> 03:05:43.280
<v Speaker 2>off of the Word of God and being a grifter.

3311
03:05:43.479 --> 03:05:45.200
<v Speaker 3>There's a defined difference here.

3312
03:05:45.239 --> 03:05:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Bro you wouldn't call a flat earth or a grifter.

3313
03:05:49.959 --> 03:05:50.799
<v Speaker 1>Depends on the person.

3314
03:05:50.840 --> 03:05:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Some flat earthers are actually true blue believers, and some

3315
03:05:53.360 --> 03:05:55.559
<v Speaker 2>of them absolutely know it's bullshit, and they keep the

3316
03:05:55.559 --> 03:05:57.520
<v Speaker 2>story alive and going, and they're doing it to make

3317
03:05:57.559 --> 03:06:00.440
<v Speaker 2>money and grow their website and sell their pain inphlets,

3318
03:06:00.479 --> 03:06:02.600
<v Speaker 2>and like, yeah, there's a difference. There are some that

3319
03:06:02.639 --> 03:06:05.200
<v Speaker 2>are true believers and some that are grifters. I'm not

3320
03:06:05.239 --> 03:06:06.840
<v Speaker 2>calling Josh Monday a grifter by any means.

3321
03:06:06.879 --> 03:06:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I know that he believes what he believes, by the way,

3322
03:06:10.040 --> 03:06:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to make a point.

3323
03:06:11.719 --> 03:06:12.680
<v Speaker 3>And I'm making a point too.

3324
03:06:12.719 --> 03:06:14.760
<v Speaker 2>There are pastors out there that truly believe in what

3325
03:06:14.799 --> 03:06:17.120
<v Speaker 2>they're doing and like they are doing the right thing

3326
03:06:17.159 --> 03:06:18.559
<v Speaker 2>for the right reasons, and there.

3327
03:06:18.399 --> 03:06:20.559
<v Speaker 3>Are pastors out there that are absolutely grifters.

3328
03:06:21.079 --> 03:06:23.079
<v Speaker 2>The two are happening at the same time, and they're

3329
03:06:23.079 --> 03:06:24.360
<v Speaker 2>both reading out of the same book.

3330
03:06:24.479 --> 03:06:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's fair to say that anybody who

3331
03:06:26.520 --> 03:06:29.319
<v Speaker 1>preaches on prosperity is a grifter, because if that was

3332
03:06:29.360 --> 03:06:31.360
<v Speaker 1>the case, then that portion of the Bible would have

3333
03:06:31.399 --> 03:06:32.959
<v Speaker 1>never been put in there anyway.

3334
03:06:33.280 --> 03:06:35.319
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no preaching on prosperity.

3335
03:06:35.360 --> 03:06:38.559
<v Speaker 2>I have no problem with being a prosperity gospel church.

3336
03:06:39.319 --> 03:06:42.959
<v Speaker 2>And every sermon you ever give ever is about prosperity.

3337
03:06:43.680 --> 03:06:45.520
<v Speaker 2>And then you could look at their tax lineups and

3338
03:06:45.559 --> 03:06:47.399
<v Speaker 2>see what they're actually doing with their money.

3339
03:06:47.639 --> 03:06:47.840
<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

3340
03:06:47.879 --> 03:06:49.159
<v Speaker 3>I do have a problem with that shit.

3341
03:06:49.959 --> 03:06:54.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Anyway, I wasn't trying to necessarily turn this into

3342
03:06:54.399 --> 03:06:58.399
<v Speaker 1>a debunking episode, but I didn't. I just went there.

3343
03:06:59.280 --> 03:07:03.159
<v Speaker 1>I did want to include a message from Nicks people.

3344
03:07:03.280 --> 03:07:07.879
<v Speaker 1>Cab take with this at what you will, Bud. This

3345
03:07:07.920 --> 03:07:10.719
<v Speaker 1>is from Cab. He goes, there's a civilization on Venus,

3346
03:07:10.760 --> 03:07:14.239
<v Speaker 1>which is a non physical frequency to us. They are

3347
03:07:14.280 --> 03:07:16.559
<v Speaker 1>advanced enough to travel to our dimension, but not as

3348
03:07:16.600 --> 03:07:21.120
<v Speaker 1>advanced as Pleadians. Pleaadian souls have actually incarnated on incarnated

3349
03:07:21.159 --> 03:07:24.319
<v Speaker 1>on Venus as we incarnate on Earth. Valian Thor met

3350
03:07:24.399 --> 03:07:27.799
<v Speaker 1>with President Eisenhower and remained as an unofficial Pentagon advisor

3351
03:07:27.840 --> 03:07:31.959
<v Speaker 1>for three years. Eisenhower met several et groups, including Pleiadians,

3352
03:07:32.000 --> 03:07:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and Zada's JFK would soon meet and become close with

3353
03:07:35.040 --> 03:07:37.639
<v Speaker 1>the Pleadians, while Black Hats were aligned with the Zetas

3354
03:07:37.719 --> 03:07:41.079
<v Speaker 1>backed by Reptilians, which if you remember in the episode Yesterday,

3355
03:07:41.879 --> 03:07:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, the Zeta Reticuli reminds me of

3356
03:07:44.120 --> 03:07:48.200
<v Speaker 1>the Reptilians. The Canadian channeler was saying this kind of

3357
03:07:48.200 --> 03:07:50.440
<v Speaker 1>backset up that the Zetas would be the Reptilians, but

3358
03:07:50.760 --> 03:07:55.360
<v Speaker 1>it says, uh, they say that Valiant Thor still comes

3359
03:07:55.399 --> 03:07:57.479
<v Speaker 1>and goes, but doesn't have a major role. He was

3360
03:07:57.520 --> 03:08:03.040
<v Speaker 1>linked to the original or tick or ortique O R

3361
03:08:03.360 --> 03:08:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I t Q, whatever that is who meets the NSA

3362
03:08:07.239 --> 03:08:11.719
<v Speaker 1>White Hats or like other galactics in history, like Elijah

3363
03:08:11.799 --> 03:08:14.920
<v Speaker 1>who advised humans but was known to be an extraterrestrial

3364
03:08:15.239 --> 03:08:18.520
<v Speaker 1>in quote sky God, Frank Strange's author of Stranger at

3365
03:08:18.520 --> 03:08:21.879
<v Speaker 1>the Pentagon provided accurate information about him. For the record,

3366
03:08:21.959 --> 03:08:24.959
<v Speaker 1>neither Vow nor Thor are Pleadian names. So just want

3367
03:08:25.000 --> 03:08:26.840
<v Speaker 1>to give a shout out to Electro Nick in regards

3368
03:08:26.879 --> 03:08:30.360
<v Speaker 1>to the Valiant Thor conversation. Take so even Cab says

3369
03:08:30.360 --> 03:08:34.559
<v Speaker 1>that valiant Thor is not Pleadian, which yeah, he never

3370
03:08:35.000 --> 03:08:36.520
<v Speaker 1>he never tried to say that he was.

3371
03:08:36.920 --> 03:08:38.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he claim to be a Venusian.

3372
03:08:38.159 --> 03:08:42.200
<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right, right, right, So anyway, Valiant Thor,

3373
03:08:42.280 --> 03:08:44.719
<v Speaker 1>do you buy the story of Valiant Thor? Did he

3374
03:08:44.840 --> 03:08:48.120
<v Speaker 1>live inside of Venus and tried to come and save humanity?

3375
03:08:48.399 --> 03:08:50.799
<v Speaker 1>Did this have anything at all to do with the

3376
03:08:50.799 --> 03:08:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Greata Treaty? Are we talking about the same people. Is

3377
03:08:54.280 --> 03:08:57.680
<v Speaker 1>it a different story. Is your boy Frank Strange as

3378
03:08:57.760 --> 03:08:59.959
<v Speaker 1>a grifter? Is he telling the truth? Is he telling

3379
03:09:00.239 --> 03:09:02.200
<v Speaker 1>version of the truth. Do you think that he was

3380
03:09:02.280 --> 03:09:05.000
<v Speaker 1>hyping it up or watering it down? Do you think

3381
03:09:05.000 --> 03:09:06.680
<v Speaker 1>that he wanted to add his own little flair to

3382
03:09:06.719 --> 03:09:09.399
<v Speaker 1>be able to sell books. These are all very valid questions,

3383
03:09:09.760 --> 03:09:13.680
<v Speaker 1>but the fact remains that if you do believe in aliens,

3384
03:09:15.159 --> 03:09:18.600
<v Speaker 1>you have to be inclined to believe at least one story, right,

3385
03:09:18.760 --> 03:09:22.479
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes those stories tend to corroborate with other stories,

3386
03:09:22.600 --> 03:09:24.360
<v Speaker 1>which is why I wanted to bring this story up

3387
03:09:24.399 --> 03:09:29.040
<v Speaker 1>today about Valiant or the potential connection to the greata Treaty,

3388
03:09:29.440 --> 03:09:31.959
<v Speaker 1>and or maybe it was something that came after as

3389
03:09:32.000 --> 03:09:35.479
<v Speaker 1>a second chance effort, But just want to throw it

3390
03:09:35.520 --> 03:09:37.440
<v Speaker 1>out there. I mean, take with it what you want.

3391
03:09:38.000 --> 03:09:41.479
<v Speaker 1>A lot of it seems fantastical, as almost every alien

3392
03:09:41.520 --> 03:09:44.479
<v Speaker 1>story seems fantastical. I'll tell you what seems the most

3393
03:09:44.520 --> 03:09:46.879
<v Speaker 1>fantastical is that you're a human and you get to

3394
03:09:46.920 --> 03:09:50.639
<v Speaker 1>a fucking exist That's pretty damn fantastical already, So why

3395
03:09:50.719 --> 03:09:53.079
<v Speaker 1>not just take it a step up, up a notch

3396
03:09:53.159 --> 03:09:55.959
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. So let us know what you think

3397
03:09:56.159 --> 03:10:01.520
<v Speaker 1>about the valiant or I I don't know. I don't know.

3398
03:10:02.200 --> 03:10:05.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, a wise philosopher once said, you don't know

3399
03:10:05.079 --> 03:10:07.239
<v Speaker 1>what you don't know, So let's just keep that in mind.

3400
03:10:08.959 --> 03:10:09.239
<v Speaker 7>Shot.

3401
03:10:09.239 --> 03:10:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I know that guy called this to say, Man, I'm

3402
03:10:11.600 --> 03:10:14.360
<v Speaker 2>not saying that there has never been alien contact of

3403
03:10:14.479 --> 03:10:18.159
<v Speaker 2>some being that wants to give humans. If we're gonna

3404
03:10:18.200 --> 03:10:20.760
<v Speaker 2>use the term spiritual enlightenment, then fine, But maybe just

3405
03:10:20.799 --> 03:10:23.840
<v Speaker 2>teaching us a better way, right, a better way that

3406
03:10:23.959 --> 03:10:26.879
<v Speaker 2>is free from greed, free from warfare and all these things.

3407
03:10:26.879 --> 03:10:29.120
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they do come from a utopian planet and they

3408
03:10:29.159 --> 03:10:31.680
<v Speaker 2>want to try to instill some of those ethos into us.

3409
03:10:32.159 --> 03:10:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's not the valiant thor think. Maybe it is.

3410
03:10:34.479 --> 03:10:37.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. But like we said, Eisenhower got put

3411
03:10:37.799 --> 03:10:40.639
<v Speaker 2>with two options at his feet, one of them for power,

3412
03:10:40.719 --> 03:10:42.920
<v Speaker 2>one of them for peace. He chose what I think

3413
03:10:42.920 --> 03:10:45.200
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people would choose. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe

3414
03:10:45.239 --> 03:10:47.079
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people would have chosen the peace route

3415
03:10:47.120 --> 03:10:48.680
<v Speaker 2>and handed over weapons and all of these things.

3416
03:10:48.760 --> 03:10:49.319
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

3417
03:10:49.799 --> 03:10:52.479
<v Speaker 2>But like we've said, there's a million different alien stories

3418
03:10:52.520 --> 03:10:55.920
<v Speaker 2>out there, a million different et disclosures that have happened,

3419
03:10:55.959 --> 03:10:58.120
<v Speaker 2>and they are still arguing to this day.

3420
03:10:58.239 --> 03:10:58.840
<v Speaker 3>Right now.

3421
03:10:58.959 --> 03:11:01.360
<v Speaker 2>If the UFO is that are going on in DC

3422
03:11:01.600 --> 03:11:04.840
<v Speaker 2>are accurate or not right, there's no one size fits

3423
03:11:04.879 --> 03:11:07.479
<v Speaker 2>all with any of these stories. But I did appreciate

3424
03:11:07.479 --> 03:11:09.479
<v Speaker 2>the Valiant Thor story. And next we're gonna be talking

3425
03:11:09.479 --> 03:11:12.239
<v Speaker 2>about the Majestic twelve. As a matter of fact, we're

3426
03:11:12.239 --> 03:11:13.239
<v Speaker 2>gonna go into all of it.

3427
03:11:13.280 --> 03:11:13.639
<v Speaker 3>Why not.

3428
03:11:14.319 --> 03:11:15.879
<v Speaker 2>But before we head out, I did want to tell

3429
03:11:15.920 --> 03:11:17.559
<v Speaker 2>everybody listening that if you would like to get your

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<v Speaker 2>start in the buying and selling and trading of gold

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<v Speaker 2>and silver bullion, the best place to get your start

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<v Speaker 2>homeboy Wayne Clark is gonna be the one to reach

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of out of reach for a lot of people.

3437
03:11:30.760 --> 03:11:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Silver is still affordable. You can still get your hands

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of your retirement. Nest egg in gold, silver,

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<v Speaker 2>place to get your start, like I said, coecsilver dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>But another way that you can support the show and

3443
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<v Speaker 1>let us know what you think about all of these conversations.

3444
03:11:50.399 --> 03:11:53.760
<v Speaker 3>Was valiant thor legit? Was it completely fantastical? Is there

3445
03:11:53.799 --> 03:11:55.399
<v Speaker 3>a kernel of truth to it? We want to hear

3446
03:11:55.440 --> 03:11:56.520
<v Speaker 3>from you, good cult members.

3447
03:11:56.680 --> 03:11:58.559
<v Speaker 1>The best place you could let us know where is

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<v Speaker 3>Of shares at the Friends of the Family shares that

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<v Speaker 3>we're here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>The more activity the algorithm sees across all of our

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<v Speaker 1>listening platforms, the more we get promoted to more potential

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03:12:09.040 --> 03:12:10.879
<v Speaker 1>listeners who could that become potential cult members?

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<v Speaker 11>Are there? See?

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<v Speaker 2>Fine ladies and gentlemen, why are you already go check

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<v Speaker 3>In the comments.

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<v Speaker 3>And we thank you for everybody's already going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And with that being said, this was another beautiful episode

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<v Speaker 1>of the Cults of Conspiracy. And my name is Jonathan,

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