Speaker 1: Oh, that's are and welcome to the show. This is
Speaker 1: the Cult of Conspiracy, and my name is Jonathan, I'm
Speaker 1: Jacob and today we are continuing on yesterday's episode because
Speaker 1: this rabbit hole is so damn deep. Did Eisenhower have
Speaker 1: communications with aliens, both of the good variety and of
Speaker 1: the batty variety? And if there was offers on the table,
Speaker 1: which one did he choose and why did he choose it?
Speaker 1: And this is going to be kind of a continuation.
Speaker 1: So last time we peeled back the curtain of the
Speaker 1: Griata Treaty, the alleged deal Eisenhower struck with cold calculated grays,
Speaker 1: a faustian bargain alien technology in exchange for human abductions.
Speaker 1: But what if that wasn't the only offer on the table?
Speaker 1: What if at the very same time, another emissary arrived,
Speaker 1: not demanding abductions, not pushing weapons, but offering something else,
Speaker 1: entirely healing peace, even the end of disease and death itself.
Speaker 1: His name was Valiant Thor. He came not from a
Speaker 1: distant gray star system, but from Venus, the planet of love, harmony,
Speaker 1: and beauty. Tonight we're going to explore the story of
Speaker 1: the Ali survivor who walked the halls of the Pentagon
Speaker 1: and was ignored. But first before we even get into that,
Speaker 1: we are going to tie in yesterday's episode in case
Speaker 1: you missed it. We're going to summarize it from our
Speaker 1: boy AJ from the Wi Files. Jacob has a little
Speaker 1: clip over there from him, and then we'll get into
Speaker 1: Valiant Thor and how it possibly all connects. Now.
Speaker 2: We did breeze over a couple of things yesterday, and
Speaker 2: the reason why isn't because they are not important, but
Speaker 2: because we only have so much time to make this content. Okay, there,
Speaker 2: and like Jonathan said, there's so many other levels that
Speaker 2: you can go down. There's rabbit holes within rabbit holes.
Speaker 2: For this one one of them. We talked about your
Speaker 2: boy Philip Cooper, right, and he was a top intel guy,
Speaker 2: I want to say, naval intelligence William Cooper, get it, William,
Speaker 2: excuse me. And he was one of the people who
Speaker 2: claimed that he had direct knowledge of these entities. And
Speaker 2: there was another gentleman I spaced on his But we're
Speaker 2: going to talk about it with AJ with the Wild
Speaker 2: Files here in a moment, who claimed that he was
Speaker 2: a contracted digger who was digging tunnels, these underground military
Speaker 2: bases for these entities to perform experiments.
Speaker 3: But when he got down there.
Speaker 2: This is also around the time when they figured out
Speaker 2: that the abductions and experiments were a millionfold what we
Speaker 2: were originally told. He gets down there and sees eggs,
Speaker 2: egg pods, millions of them underground, and not just these
Speaker 2: egg pods, parts of human bodies.
Speaker 3: Arms, legs, all these things.
Speaker 2: Apparently they weren't just returning all the people like they
Speaker 2: said they were. They were doing gene splicing technology. There
Speaker 2: was a gunfight that took place underground pistols versus laser
Speaker 2: cannons from the aliens, and he actually had most of
Speaker 2: his hand fried off and got hit in the chest.
Speaker 2: Both him and Cooper claimed they were trying to go
Speaker 2: loud about all of this, and they claimed, we are
Speaker 2: probably going to be killed in the next few weeks.
Speaker 2: And if you don't hear from us anymore, understand we
Speaker 2: didn't commit sue. Both of these gentlemen were found dead
Speaker 2: ruled a suicide. So anyway, we breezed over some of
Speaker 2: this because an underground gun fight sounds kind of incredulous, okay,
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying that I do or don't believe it.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying to your average person who's never heard
Speaker 2: of conspiracies that might just ring out a little too
Speaker 2: star wars. He Okay, So we kind of went over
Speaker 2: the more verifiable, the more documented things that we could yesterday.
Speaker 2: So as we're going into this, I just want everybody
Speaker 2: to know we didn't. It's not that we don't know
Speaker 2: about these kind of conversations or we don't know about
Speaker 2: these events that took place. We're sticking onto the things
Speaker 2: that we can in some way shape or form fact check.
Speaker 1: I mean, we we did a three hour episode and
Speaker 1: it was jam pack full of details. So and this
Speaker 1: is something that has had decades, literally what seventy five
Speaker 1: years or so, seventy years to be able to be
Speaker 1: kind of fraught through and talked about and discovered and
Speaker 1: poked at and prodded and everything. So there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of information regardless. But I did want to say, dude,
Speaker 1: like that episode opened me up, and today's episode's going
Speaker 1: to open everybody's third eye all the way open. It
Speaker 1: is crazy. You might not believe it, but whenever it
Speaker 1: comes to any alien, any alien story, I feel like
Speaker 1: there are those of us that, like, we want to believe,
Speaker 1: so we're more inclined to believe, And then there are
Speaker 1: those of us that don't believe in aliens. Maybe you
Speaker 1: think they're demons, maybe you think they don't even exist.
Speaker 1: You know, so I understand pretty much all sides. But
Speaker 1: the thing is is that every single alien story has
Speaker 1: some thing to it that makes it fantastical, right, And
Speaker 1: we are less inclined to believe the fantastical because we
Speaker 1: want to believe it so much. But there's that thing
Speaker 1: inside of us that tells you, no, that's not real life. No,
Speaker 1: that couldn't have really happened. I just want everybody to
Speaker 1: remember here, the fact that you are alive and listening
Speaker 1: to a podcast already doesn't make any fucking sense. Okay, Like, statistically, you, yeah,
Speaker 1: the odds of you being born is like four billion
Speaker 1: to one.
Speaker 3: Like that's the reality of it.
Speaker 2: For an actual human sperm to meet the egg and
Speaker 2: go through to fruition and be born, that is like
Speaker 2: a four billion to one odds of happening. Let me
Speaker 2: explain that to more realistic terms.
Speaker 3: I have a gun. I have a forty five in
Speaker 3: my hand right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, Jonathan, just for you, if I handed you a
Speaker 2: weapon and said, all right, bro, is the new, latest
Speaker 2: and greatest. By the way, it's it's unloaded. Show clear
Speaker 2: all the things. Don't get after me, all right, all
Speaker 2: the things. So if I hand you this gun, I
Speaker 2: hand it to you loaded, and I said, you, every
Speaker 2: four billion times you pull the trigger, it might go
Speaker 2: off one of those times. Would you say that that
Speaker 2: is oh, that's a really good gun, or would you say, oh,
Speaker 2: so it's like that's basically impossible, that's a non fire weapon.
Speaker 3: It's it's not working.
Speaker 1: I would say that's probably from China. China asshole. You're right,
Speaker 1: matter of fact. You know what, there's never a bad
Speaker 1: time to hear from our fucking Hong Kong correspondent, Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Don't trust China. China is ass ho.
Speaker 3: You know, I keep that bang on me.
Speaker 1: But anyway, anyway, I love that you just don't close that, dude.
Speaker 1: There's no trus China China is ass ho.
Speaker 2: There's never a bad time to hear from this guy.
Speaker 2: I love him so much. I hope he's doing well
Speaker 2: and he wasn't killed. But anyway, so my point is, though,
Speaker 2: if you had anything a car that every four billion
Speaker 2: times you turn the key, maybe it'll turn over one time.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't say you have a functioning car. You would
Speaker 2: say it's a hunk of junk. Yet somehow human life
Speaker 2: has gone this far to where it's a guarantee. It's
Speaker 2: mind blowing a miracle.
Speaker 1: Not even just that, but even the fact that that
Speaker 1: process is even a thing is crazy in an itself.
Speaker 1: The fact that we exist, like I'm not even talking
Speaker 1: about as humans. I'm talking about the fact that you
Speaker 1: have awareness of your surroundings. Yeah, I don't know what
Speaker 1: the odds of that are, but even I don't know,
Speaker 1: we can go real crazy, we can get real weird.
Speaker 1: We live in a fucking matrix. We live in a simulation.
Speaker 1: Everything is fake and gay, and here we are to try,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, maybe be like Neo in the
Speaker 1: matrix and try and prove that we're all the one.
Speaker 1: Let's just get real weird.
Speaker 2: But that's the thing, right, This would lead me, in
Speaker 2: most logical people to at least agree with intelligent design. Now,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go into a religious soapbox here, okay,
Speaker 2: because everybody knows where I stand on that.
Speaker 1: Although I will say, the guy that we are going
Speaker 1: to be talking about today does get religious in this episode,
Speaker 1: which you know, take with it what you will.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair, But my point is right, the earth
Speaker 2: itself existing, you want to talk about the ratios of
Speaker 2: statistics of that being a thing able to sustain life.
Speaker 2: If we are any closer to the some we burn up,
Speaker 2: we're any further away, we would freeze. And then let's
Speaker 2: talk about the type of floor and fauna we have
Speaker 2: on this entire earth. Then let's talk about the sentient
Speaker 2: beings aka humans that are inhabiting it. When you compile
Speaker 2: all of these things together, it is not so.
Speaker 1: Oh well, you know, evolution and things just happen over
Speaker 1: billions a year. Bro.
Speaker 2: I don't care what kind of time frame you're talking
Speaker 2: about here. Statistics are statistics. If we're talking about you've
Speaker 2: got a one in like one hundred quintillion shot of
Speaker 2: us even having this conversation right now. That's not random.
Speaker 2: That's not a possibility. I would say that. It's not
Speaker 2: even like, so you're saying there's a chance. No, I'm
Speaker 2: saying that's a non chance. That's a non no way.
Speaker 2: This would at least tell me that there is some
Speaker 2: sort of plan in place, there's some sort of intelligent design,
Speaker 2: and therefore an intelligent designer.
Speaker 3: We can argue back and forth about what that designer is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that is fun. Sure, there's always going to
Speaker 1: be a little bit of contemplation, you know. I think
Speaker 1: that we all should be contemplating on our existence. There's
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. But but I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: strange because you know, the way that we tell the
Speaker 1: difference between reality and dreams, for example, right, Like, the
Speaker 1: way that we're able to tell that this is reality
Speaker 1: and not a dream is because we compare it to
Speaker 1: dreams that are around for a very short time and
Speaker 1: they are not continuous. Some people have you know, reoccurring
Speaker 1: dreams and whatnot, and sometimes those dreams do continue within
Speaker 1: the realm of the timeline. Right, But we're able to
Speaker 1: tell that this is the reality because we wake up
Speaker 1: every day, we do the same thing, the shit that
Speaker 1: we did yesterday. There's proof of it and everything like that, Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Is it possible that we are just living in some
Speaker 1: kind of weird, trippy, continuous fucking dream that we call reality.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, And that's why I
Speaker 1: say you should be open to the alien talk because
Speaker 1: we don't know what the fuck we're doing here.
Speaker 3: That's fair.
Speaker 2: Now, with all this being said, let's move into this
Speaker 2: with the WI files. Here A Jay kind of given
Speaker 2: us the brief overview synopsis. If you will of the
Speaker 2: Greata Treaty, A.
Speaker 4: Secret treaty with aliens underground basis a war for the
Speaker 4: future of humanity. Two whistleblowers dead for trying to expose
Speaker 4: the truth. The Greata Treaty is one of the most
Speaker 4: elaborate conspiracy theories of the last century.
Speaker 5: But is it true.
Speaker 4: The official story of Eisenhower's disappearance on February twentieth, nineteen
Speaker 4: fifty four is still a dental visit. The White House
Speaker 4: released the dentist name, doctor Francis A.
Speaker 5: Pricell.
Speaker 4: Records show he was a real dentist in Palm Springs,
Speaker 4: but the story has problems. The Eisenhower Library has extensive
Speaker 4: records of the President's health, every appointment, every procedure, but
Speaker 4: there's no record of any dental work in February.
Speaker 5: Nineteen fifty four. None.
Speaker 4: The primary sources for the Garata Treaty are whistleblowers William
Speaker 4: Cooper and Phil Schneider. Cooper was former naval intelligence with
Speaker 4: access to classified files, he ate.
Speaker 5: Some bold public predictions.
Speaker 4: On June twenty eight, two thousand and one, on his
Speaker 4: radio show, Cooper said there would be a major terrorist
Speaker 4: attack on US soil.
Speaker 5: He said this would be a.
Speaker 4: False flag operation and Osama bin Laden would be blamed.
Speaker 4: Now this time, very few people ever heard the name
Speaker 4: Osama bin Laden. But six weeks later, on September eleventh,
Speaker 4: the United States was attacked. After the attacks, Cooper said
Speaker 4: on the air that he expected to be killed, not arrested.
Speaker 5: Killed.
Speaker 4: A few weeks later, he was killed in a shootout
Speaker 4: with police. They're trying to serve him with the warrant
Speaker 4: for tax evasion. Phil Schneider showed photos and material samples
Speaker 4: he claimed were alien alloys.
Speaker 6: I have different artifacts, explaining.
Speaker 3: Someone wrote, this is the homie.
Speaker 2: If he shows his left hand, you'll see most of
Speaker 2: his fingers are fried off. This is the guy that
Speaker 2: got in the gunfight with the aliens. But anyway, let's
Speaker 2: keep going.
Speaker 6: Them are alien medals that have been produced. Here's a
Speaker 6: crystaline example. It's in the scalenohedral crystal inform. We got
Speaker 6: this from the large grays technology.
Speaker 5: He also believed his life was in danger.
Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety five, during a lecture, he said, if
Speaker 4: I ever commit suicide, I didn't.
Speaker 5: I was murdered a few months later.
Speaker 4: Schneider was found dead in his apartment, strangled with a
Speaker 4: surgical tube. Official cause of death suicide. There's a link
Speaker 4: below to the full story of Phil Schneider and Dulce Bass.
Speaker 5: It's a wild one.
Speaker 1: Okay, strangled himself with a surgical tube to death. Who
Speaker 1: does that right?
Speaker 2: Not hanging, not suicide, as in he hung himself. He
Speaker 2: strangled himself with a surgical tube. You're never strangling yourself
Speaker 2: with anything, doesn't matter what the object was. But who
Speaker 2: the fuck strangles themselves.
Speaker 1: Like that's that's the purpose of hanging is so that
Speaker 1: your body's gravity strangles you, so that you don't have to.
Speaker 2: Right look if you want to pull up the clip
Speaker 2: or not the clip. But like you said, there's a
Speaker 2: link in the description about the entire case file for
Speaker 2: that quote unquote self strangulation.
Speaker 3: I looked it up. It's fraud with bullshit.
Speaker 1: We are we and I promise you this just I
Speaker 1: love all of this. I want to get to every
Speaker 1: single detail of it. We're going to do an episode
Speaker 1: on William Cooper. Oh that wasn't William Cooper. That was
Speaker 1: your boy Schneider. That was Schneider.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was self strangulated.
Speaker 2: Cooper would gotten a gunfight with cops for income tax
Speaker 2: evasion allegedly.
Speaker 1: But even still, I like, if you look into William Cooper,
Speaker 1: and I don't know why I confuse the two, if
Speaker 1: you look into him, dude, it he's like Alex Jones
Speaker 1: before Alex Jones.
Speaker 2: Basically, I mean Alex Jones called nine to eleven before
Speaker 2: it happened too. Apparently this guy did six weeks prior.
Speaker 2: Interesting enough that he had a background of naval intelligence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, shout out to the real ones, the
Speaker 1: true like the people that were the conspiracy theorists before
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories were cool. You know the thing I know,
Speaker 1: there's so many people that are like, you mean, he's
Speaker 1: a fed. It's like, okay, dude, at one point he
Speaker 1: was a fit. Yes, I will agree with that, but
Speaker 1: he also became a whistleblower and started trying to unveil truths.
Speaker 1: So as he died, oh you mean, it was a
Speaker 1: part of the op because he was just a paid fit.
Speaker 2: It's you know, there's always going to be people that
Speaker 2: are throwing shade for the sake of throwing shade.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I don't like that personally.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's that's a thing with conspiracy theorists in general,
Speaker 1: is that we're all we always have our ears perked
Speaker 1: up for who the FEDS are. I highly doubt that
Speaker 1: there's going to be a quote unquote fed that's actually
Speaker 1: going to give you more real information than fake information,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And that's why, like even
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't speak on behalf of Alex Jones
Speaker 1: right now. Some people think that he's been replaced. He's
Speaker 1: lost a lot of weight, he looks very different, he's
Speaker 1: kind of changed his tone on a lot of things.
Speaker 1: I get it. But steroids will do that, though, what's
Speaker 1: that steroids will do that?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 1: I mean maybe, But yeah, anyway, let's continue.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 4: Despite these very strange deaths, there's no physical proof of
Speaker 4: the Greata Treaty, but the story doesn't come from nowhere.
Speaker 4: The nineteen fifties saw a massive worldwide wave of UFO sightings.
Speaker 4: Many were witnessed by credible military personnel, and after World
Speaker 4: War Two, technology advanced quickly, maybe too quickly, computers, particle physics,
Speaker 4: wireless communication, integrated circuits, fiber optics, stealth technology, anti gravity research.
Speaker 4: I have an episode coming up about the acceleration in
Speaker 4: technology that began in nineteen forty seven, the year of
Speaker 4: the Roswell crash. The discoveries were coming fast, and they
Speaker 4: were a little too convenient. Gerald light Really wrote a
Speaker 4: letter in nineteen fifty four claiming he witnessed the Alien Meeting.
Speaker 4: He describes seeing multiple alien craft and different species. He
Speaker 4: named other witnesses Cardinal McIntyre, Franklin Allen, doctor Edwin Nurse.
Speaker 4: Now doctor Nurse is interesting. He was an advisor to
Speaker 4: President Truman at the time, but before that he was
Speaker 4: a key figure from the Brookings Institution. Just a few
Speaker 4: years after the grey out of Meeting, the Brookings Institution
Speaker 4: released the Brookings Report. The report covers a broad range
Speaker 4: of topics related to space exploration and its potential effects
Speaker 4: on society, but one section, only a few paragraphs long,
Speaker 4: has become infamous.
Speaker 5: The report says that discovering intelligent.
Speaker 4: Extraterrestrial life could cause major social upheaval. Now you might
Speaker 4: have heard this as a classified report that claims aliens
Speaker 4: exist and instructed NASA to suppress this information.
Speaker 5: None of that is.
Speaker 4: True, but the report did raise a question that if
Speaker 4: aliens were discovered, the implications of disclosure should be considered carefully.
Speaker 4: And then there's eyes an hour and is farewell addressed
Speaker 4: to the nation. In nineteen sixty one, his final warning
Speaker 4: wasn't about the Soviets.
Speaker 5: It was about a threat from within.
Speaker 4: He warned of the growing unchecked power of a military
Speaker 4: industrial complex, a shadow government of unelected officials and defense contractors.
Speaker 4: Eisenhower was one hundred percent right about that.
Speaker 8: We recognize the imperative need for this development, yet we
Speaker 8: must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources,
Speaker 8: and livelihood are all involved, so is the very structure
Speaker 8: of our society. In the councils of government, we must
Speaker 8: guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or
Speaker 8: unsought by the military industrial complex.
Speaker 9: The potential for.
Speaker 8: The disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
Speaker 4: So is this a president's parting wisdom or was it
Speaker 4: a confession or a final desperate warning about the deal
Speaker 4: he made and regretted. Now I don't know if the
Speaker 4: story of the Grati Treaty is true, but the story's
Speaker 4: observation of human nature is absolutely true.
Speaker 5: We were offered two.
Speaker 4: Paths, one of enlightenment and one of power. We chose power,
Speaker 4: And if given the same offer today, we'd make the
Speaker 4: same choice.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 4: I wish human race was ready for an awakening that
Speaker 4: would end violence and war and starvation, poverty.
Speaker 5: And all of that.
Speaker 4: And I believe one day we'll get there. But that
Speaker 4: day is not today. The world is a dangerous place
Speaker 4: and always has been. The Nordics offered peace only after
Speaker 4: we disarmed. That's a big risk to take when the
Speaker 4: Soviets were armed to the teeth, And what if the
Speaker 4: Nordics were, They were a bigger threat than the Soviets.
Speaker 4: So how do we know we can trust them? Think
Speaker 4: of it this way. You're in a room with a stranger.
Speaker 4: You both have guns pointed at each other. The stranger says,
Speaker 4: I promise I won't shoot, but you have to give
Speaker 4: me your gun first. Now you want to believe him,
Speaker 4: but you don't know him. So now the choice is yours.
Speaker 4: Trust the stranger and risk your own survival, or squeeze
Speaker 4: and guarantee it be honest, which would you choose?
Speaker 3: Agreed? One thousand percent.
Speaker 9: I mean.
Speaker 1: It's I understand the hangup. I do, And obviously, like
Speaker 1: we would, we would hope for peace and prosperity and
Speaker 1: wisdom and everlasting life and you know all these things.
Speaker 1: Like if these beings are suggesting that we're going to
Speaker 1: get any of those things, you know you would you
Speaker 1: would be inclined to want to believe it. But you
Speaker 1: don't know them, like you said, you know, like how
Speaker 1: would you sort that out? You know, like, let's just
Speaker 1: say it. What if there was a third option? What
Speaker 1: would that third option be to you?
Speaker 3: But there wasn't one given right at that moment.
Speaker 2: They had only made contact with these two different species, allegedly,
Speaker 2: if we are to believe the story right, and one
Speaker 2: of them was talking about enlightenment and peace and love
Speaker 2: and all these things, which are beautiful concepts.
Speaker 1: For the record, I know that I'm the warmonger on
Speaker 1: the podcast.
Speaker 2: I get it, all right, But just so we're all clear,
Speaker 2: I really do wish that we could live in a
Speaker 2: world free from human greed, few free from warfare, free
Speaker 2: from all these negative things that have plagued the race
Speaker 2: since the beginning.
Speaker 1: Of time.
Speaker 3: I want that more than anybody, right, or as much.
Speaker 2: As anybody should say, But unfortunately that is never going
Speaker 2: to be a thing as long as human nature is
Speaker 2: still human nature.
Speaker 1: But as humans could evolve. Like, if you think about it,
Speaker 1: humans have come a long way from the caveman days.
Speaker 1: Like there, whether you want to, maybe you don't believe
Speaker 1: in evolution. I'm just talking about like the human mind
Speaker 1: is not as animalistic at least we are inclined to
Speaker 1: think that.
Speaker 3: We want to believe that, and I, in a way
Speaker 3: I do right.
Speaker 2: In a way, I do believe that we have socially
Speaker 2: evolved a long way from our ancient predecessors. But then
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest. Have you ever read Marcus Aurelius's
Speaker 2: book on Stoicism? I've glanced through it, Okay, or Platinus
Speaker 2: or Aristotle or any of these philosophers that we would
Speaker 2: consider ancient. Right, humans have been human ing. People have
Speaker 2: been peopling since the beginning of time. Yeah, technology might
Speaker 2: have taken a step up, nutrition might have gone up
Speaker 2: a level or two. We have more communication now, we
Speaker 2: have bigger area that we control, bigger borders, all these things,
Speaker 2: But the day to day interaction of what makes humans
Speaker 2: behave in a way that we do has pretty much
Speaker 2: gone unchanged. And to that point, also from caveman days
Speaker 2: to even the Bronze Age, warfare is what made the
Speaker 2: technological advancements really happen. As soon as fire was created,
Speaker 2: they were trying to find a way to fuck up
Speaker 2: the neighboring tribe with it. As soon as they had
Speaker 2: a bigger club, they were finding a way to use
Speaker 2: these bigger clubs to fuck up that other tribe. Then
Speaker 2: we got spear points yo, a pointy stick that doesn't break.
Speaker 2: Hold the fuck on, now we could use it. It
Speaker 2: just that's the way it's always gone. And I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that everything has gone towards warfare, but the vast
Speaker 2: majority of our advancement has been because of conflict.
Speaker 1: This, i believe, is the reason why we have had
Speaker 1: such end quotes enlightened individuals throughout the course of the
Speaker 1: annals of history. Right, whether you think that it was
Speaker 1: Jesus or Buddha or some kind of mystic, maybe it
Speaker 1: was uh name them, some kind of guru whatever they
Speaker 1: seem to be, always kind of pushing a message of love,
Speaker 1: of peace and harmony and all these things, and there
Speaker 1: have been people that have had changes of hearts and
Speaker 1: they've moved on from their fraught ways, right, and.
Speaker 3: We should strive for this one hundred percent with you.
Speaker 1: But the difference between in my opinion, but the difference
Speaker 1: between religion for the most part, and these kind of
Speaker 1: messages is very clear. It's that you're not going to
Speaker 1: get those things until you die and go to heaven.
Speaker 1: And what some you know, other enlightened individuals, mystics, gurus, whatever,
Speaker 1: will say that actually you can kind of have a
Speaker 1: little bit of heaven on earth as well. And that's
Speaker 1: really the difference because if you believe that we are
Speaker 1: just human souls, and this is gonna get weird, But
Speaker 1: if you believe that we're human souls, what makes you
Speaker 1: believe that we're not going to have those human mindset
Speaker 1: activities you know in heaven as well? You know, like,
Speaker 1: if that's all we are, why would we not carry
Speaker 1: those with us? Is it? If we're human souls?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: No, you, I'm with you, But I also believe that
Speaker 2: we're souls having a human experience, right, not human souls
Speaker 2: that ourselves is not inherently.
Speaker 1: That's the clinching that that is the most like clutch
Speaker 1: thing you've ever said in your life, right there, Keith.
Speaker 1: That is the difference is is that we are souls
Speaker 1: first before we're humans. If the idea that we can
Speaker 1: become you know, I don't want to say enlightened, but
Speaker 1: if we can get there, to to a point of
Speaker 1: peace and prosperity and being able to live amongst each
Speaker 1: other happily and working accordingly with others and everything like that,
Speaker 1: if we can get there, it's within our nature. If
Speaker 1: we are souls first before humans. Would you disagree with that?
Speaker 3: Yes? And no, Yes and no. Here, here's the thing.
Speaker 2: When you say religion teaches you these things, there's only
Speaker 2: one religion period that teaches that you are an imperfect person,
Speaker 2: and that's okay, we accept you anyway. You just have
Speaker 2: to acknowledge your imperfection. All other religions on earth teach
Speaker 2: you that you can do enough work to counterbalance the bad.
Speaker 2: You could do enough good to counteract the bad that
Speaker 2: you have done on this earth. That's the vast majority.
Speaker 2: There's only one group out there that is saying, actually,
Speaker 2: that's an impossibility. Right But neither here nor there, the
Speaker 2: human psyche take away religion take away creationism, take away
Speaker 2: anything else. The example that AJ gave you and a
Speaker 2: stranger both have guns point at each other. You can
Speaker 2: either trust this stranger with your survival or you could
Speaker 2: take that survival into your own hands. Regardless of what
Speaker 2: God you worship, regardless of what your background and upbringing was, whatever,
Speaker 2: every person gun to their head would make the same
Speaker 2: decision that Eisenhower made with these aliens.
Speaker 1: That's very glass half empty, though, wouldn't you think about it?
Speaker 1: Like so, that's like I can make the same argument.
Speaker 1: Let's say you just start dating somebody you really like
Speaker 1: that person, that really that other person really likes you,
Speaker 1: but you've been scorned in the past, and you know
Speaker 1: you're not trying to put yourself in that vulnerable position again.
Speaker 1: So instead of her cheating on you and breaking your heart,
Speaker 1: you're gonna cheat on her first.
Speaker 2: We're talking about your own survival, not your emotional feelings
Speaker 2: or anything like that.
Speaker 1: We're emotions and survival or hand in hand. Oh not
Speaker 1: at all, not at all. No emotions and survival.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about you living to see tomorrow morning, or
Speaker 2: you feeling okay about yourself. These are two completely different
Speaker 2: conversations self preservation is always going.
Speaker 3: To take hold.
Speaker 1: Self preservation is a personal thing. A personal thing definitely
Speaker 1: connects to your emotions, is it not.
Speaker 3: It's an it's an instinctual thing.
Speaker 2: That's like lizard brain, animalists, survival of the fittest. When
Speaker 2: it all push come to shove, gun to your head,
Speaker 2: when all the chips are down, self preservation is gonna
Speaker 2: take over long before your logical thinking brain.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. We're gonna say that.
Speaker 3: Was even done.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, in Nazi Germany, they did
Speaker 2: experiments and for the record, I should give a disclosure
Speaker 2: warning on this one. This is not a pretty conversation.
Speaker 2: People are gonna disagree with me on this one. Y'all
Speaker 2: could look this up. I was disgusted when I found
Speaker 2: this out. But it goes in line with this. Okay,
Speaker 2: human animal brain, lizard brain, whatever you want to say
Speaker 2: when survival is on the table. Okay, they had mother
Speaker 2: and child and they'll put them in a cell together,
Speaker 2: and they would give them enough food to survive, not
Speaker 2: a lot, but enough, and then every day they would
Speaker 2: start removing a little bit of food, just a little bit,
Speaker 2: and over the course of six months, it got to
Speaker 2: where there was only enough food for one of them
Speaker 2: to survive. Now, before I say what I'm about to say,
Speaker 2: every person thinking about this would say, well, clearly the
Speaker 2: mother would give the child the food and like to
Speaker 2: make sure that their child survived, because that's maternal, that's instinctual,
Speaker 2: that's all these things correct. Sure, every single time, without fail,
Speaker 2: the mother would eat the food and let their child starve.
Speaker 2: When I'm talking pure animalistic instinct. Brain is on the table,
Speaker 2: and survival is what's there. You protecting yourself. Self preservation
Speaker 2: is always going to take hold. That's just how this goes,
Speaker 2: not time. And I can make several arguments against that. Okay,
Speaker 2: maybe it happened every time over there, but that there,
Speaker 2: there is plenty of historical arguments that you know, that
Speaker 2: prove that we're not one hundred percent of the time
Speaker 2: gonna do that. One's in the moment, like a car
Speaker 2: wreck or something where like the dad like throws their
Speaker 2: kid out of the car and they die, Not in
Speaker 2: the moment, that's different.
Speaker 1: Sure, Sure, So think about he hum't I can't even
Speaker 1: believe I'm going here, But I'm gonna kind of bring
Speaker 1: up a story that might tickle you own damn fancy.
Speaker 1: How about the time that, uh, let's just bring up
Speaker 1: Jesus here for a second. Jesus knew that he was
Speaker 1: going to die, now I could. I know what you're
Speaker 1: gonna say. He was Actually he was fine. Purpose how
Speaker 1: about all the people that died after him that were
Speaker 1: trying to preach his story? Right, all those people, they
Speaker 1: had two choices. You can go along to get along,
Speaker 1: or you can keep on preaching Jesus's story. Those people
Speaker 1: chose to keep on preaching Jesus's story and died as
Speaker 1: a result of it. So it's not always about self preservation.
Speaker 1: Sometimes there is a higher reason. And that's what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say right here, is that if you are
Speaker 1: sticking to that higher reason, you're not going to resort
Speaker 1: to your animal human mind, because the spiritual self transcends
Speaker 1: that every single time. If you put it out in front.
Speaker 2: But they also understood that they would have lied, then yeah,
Speaker 2: they might live today, but their souls would be damned.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. And so you can look at
Speaker 1: this a multitude of different ways, but look at it.
Speaker 2: For the Eisenhower example, he is the president of the
Speaker 2: greatest nation to ever walk the face of the earth, right,
Speaker 2: and we are currently in a war with Russia, and
Speaker 2: we honestly don't know if these extra treshial beings are
Speaker 2: also cutting to deal with Russia.
Speaker 3: They may lie to us and sign this treaty. We
Speaker 3: don't know them. We don't know if they're being forthright.
Speaker 2: So either a we sacrifice all of our nukes, all
Speaker 2: of our tanks, all of our guns, even your personal
Speaker 2: belongings of guns. We as a nation, sacrifice all of them,
Speaker 2: but we gain enlightenment. Or we cut a deal with
Speaker 2: them and we let them experiment on some people, which
Speaker 2: are not happy about, but we pull ahead of all
Speaker 2: of our competition by fifty two one hundred years in
Speaker 2: the technology conversation, and we become the undisputed only superpower
Speaker 2: on Earth. I honestly don't believe that any president in
Speaker 2: that position would have chose differently.
Speaker 1: Let's substitute names here for us. All right, this is
Speaker 1: just gonna be kind of a mind game right here. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you have an individual or a group of individuals
Speaker 1: said to be enlightened, offering you know, peace and love
Speaker 1: and all the hippie stuff, right, and and that that
Speaker 1: individual goes into the White House offers this deal. Obviously
Speaker 1: we know what happened to Eisenhower turned it down, told you, eh,
Speaker 1: you know, we we don't stand to benefit from you.
Speaker 1: We stand to benefit from the other people who are
Speaker 1: going to give us technology that's gonna help us become
Speaker 1: the greatest nation in the history of the fucking world, right,
Speaker 1: which ultimately he did. However, if you were to substitute
Speaker 1: those Nordics or those you know, even even valiant Door,
Speaker 1: if you were to substitute names like that with names
Speaker 1: like what if Jesus walked through that door and he
Speaker 1: was offering the same thing, If he was offering the
Speaker 1: same thing, do you just personally, do you think that
Speaker 1: Eisenhower would have turned him down too.
Speaker 2: Let's look at the example, given what happened, and when
Speaker 2: Jesus did that exact thing, they fucking crucified them.
Speaker 1: For it, thank you.
Speaker 2: Yes, so humans have been doing human ass shit since
Speaker 2: the beginning of time, right, But my point, humans in
Speaker 2: power would definitely do that.
Speaker 1: But I think that the masses wouldn't agree with that
Speaker 1: if you put that on a mass scale, like if
Speaker 1: that was up for a vote, like I am of
Speaker 1: the belief at least of the United States. I'm of
Speaker 1: the belief that the majority of Americans would rather have
Speaker 1: peace and prosperity and no sickness over technology that only
Speaker 1: the government has access to, technology that is going to
Speaker 1: make us the rulers of the free world, to make
Speaker 1: us the big dick and police state that we are today.
Speaker 1: We would much rather have peace, prosperity, and anti sickness.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you say that if you put that to a
Speaker 1: vote to every American.
Speaker 2: So if you were put that to a vote to
Speaker 2: every American, the vast majority we are talking about the
Speaker 2: saying that eighty four percent of them got the first
Speaker 2: jab with no background.
Speaker 1: If it wasn't the Uganda you were, if it wasn't propagandized,
Speaker 1: and people were actually given a real, actual opportunity to
Speaker 1: make a decision without being manipulated, if it was on
Speaker 1: the table directly as it is.
Speaker 2: I don't think that anybody would believe it. I think
Speaker 2: you give people way too much credit.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 1: Now maybe i'm again, I'm all, but we're talking about
Speaker 1: the mob.
Speaker 3: We're talking about the masks.
Speaker 2: An individual, not somebody in power, your average Joe, blow,
Speaker 2: your neighbor, right, who given this decision if they would
Speaker 2: want ultimate power or ultimate enlightenment, maybe you might be
Speaker 2: onto something there.
Speaker 3: Mass vote for the entire nation.
Speaker 1: No, but that does change the story, at least for you, right,
Speaker 1: because the Nordics or valiantor or anybody can walk through
Speaker 1: those Pentagon doors and have conversations with White Eisenhower and
Speaker 1: present them with that opportunity. But if it was Jesus,
Speaker 1: you'd be a lot more inclined to pick the side
Speaker 1: of peace as opposed to technology in war.
Speaker 3: Right, I think he would have still chose the same decision.
Speaker 1: No, no, you oh me, yeah.
Speaker 2: Acting on behalf of my nation. I honestly don't know
Speaker 2: which decision I would have made Jesus for myself as Jacob. Sure,
Speaker 2: but it's it's not it's not so clear cut and dry, dude.
Speaker 2: What it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not so simple like if you're talking about the
Speaker 1: second coming of Jesus. Yeah, that's supposed to be a
Speaker 1: sign of the end times, So you would go against Jesus.
Speaker 3: No, No, me, personally, I would not.
Speaker 2: But I'm also not going to vote on behalf of
Speaker 2: my entire nation for something like that, to where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: everybody goes to.
Speaker 1: Heaven, but you need to give me all your guns. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, come back with that. What if you were
Speaker 1: president in that possess That's.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying.
Speaker 2: If I was president and and Jesus was to come
Speaker 2: and say, all right, I can guarantee all of your
Speaker 2: nation will go to heaven, but you're gonna need to
Speaker 2: hand over your guns, you wouldn't want to make that decision.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Yeah, how how would that look? How does
Speaker 2: that play out? I'm gonna let out some government manda.
Speaker 2: I'm going to pass a new law saying that we
Speaker 2: are gonna take all of your guns, because every fascist
Speaker 2: dictator throughout history who's done that, it's gone so well
Speaker 2: for them, there's never been resistance.
Speaker 1: And then it was gonna take away.
Speaker 2: All the nukes, weapons, not just weapons in general, okay, everything, tanks, guns, this, pistol, this,
Speaker 2: They're gonna take everything because we can't have anything of
Speaker 2: an aggressive nature for us to achieve this enlightenment. Right, So,
Speaker 2: if you're telling me that the second coming of Jesus, well, okay,
Speaker 2: let's just for the sake of conversation, let's just say
Speaker 2: it's not the revelation in time second coming.
Speaker 1: All right, maybe they just made a pit stop a
Speaker 1: thousand years before the Second Coming.
Speaker 2: All right, fair, And Jesus was telling me if I
Speaker 2: was to make it to where all of my countrymen
Speaker 2: were to hand over their weapons and then everybody's guaranteed
Speaker 2: to go to heaven. I don't even think that there's
Speaker 2: a way that I could spin that narrative to make
Speaker 2: everybody believe me, even if I wanted to, because I do.
Speaker 2: I do want everybody to go to heaven. I do
Speaker 2: want everybody to have eternal life, all of the things.
Speaker 2: But I honestly cannot imagine any president, any of them,
Speaker 2: name one, doesn't matter, any president coming on the airwaves
Speaker 2: and being like, we need a massive gun turn in
Speaker 2: and all these things, and I can guarantee you'll go
Speaker 2: to heaven. And even if Jesus himself was to gill
Speaker 2: on the mic and say all these things, I have
Speaker 2: a very hard time believing the people would actually respond
Speaker 2: to that possible.
Speaker 1: I'm not even saying that everybody would go to heaven,
Speaker 1: because what these individuals were saying was that essentially you
Speaker 1: could have heaven on earth. Well, you brought up the
Speaker 1: Jesus example, So that's why I said, the whole go
Speaker 1: to heaven. I know, but it's not the second coming time.
Speaker 1: We'll call it the one and a half coming or whatever, right,
Speaker 1: just for you know, for the example. But like if
Speaker 1: Jesus was to come during that time, you can have
Speaker 1: heaven on earth. You just got to give up all
Speaker 1: the fucking weapons of mass destruction or whatever.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 1: And I can cure AIDS, I can cure cancer, I
Speaker 1: can cure sickness, COVID, shmovid, right, like all of these
Speaker 1: even though it already is, but all of these things
Speaker 1: and everybody will live in a community of happiness and
Speaker 1: prosperity and everything like that, you wouldn't you wouldn't take
Speaker 1: them up on that offer.
Speaker 3: I honestly don't know to be honest with you.
Speaker 1: Because God, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Just because we as America had this prosperity and all
Speaker 2: these things, does that mean that our enemies are going
Speaker 2: to just leave us alone. We're not going to get attacked,
Speaker 2: especially now that they know that we have no weapons.
Speaker 3: How do you know?
Speaker 1: I mean, you would, all right, So I get what
Speaker 1: you're saying. You're saying that if this offer was only
Speaker 1: to America and to nobody else, you'd be a little
Speaker 1: bit less inclined to take them up on that offer.
Speaker 1: But if it was offered to America and every other country,
Speaker 1: and every other country decided upon peace, then you would
Speaker 1: be more open to it.
Speaker 2: So now I have to trust that our enemies are
Speaker 2: actually going to stand by their word for the first
Speaker 2: time ever and actually give up their weapons for enlightenment,
Speaker 2: and that they're not going to just with whole weapons
Speaker 2: that once everyone else on Earth has nothing, they are
Speaker 2: now the king.
Speaker 1: So you just don't believe, You don't believe that there
Speaker 1: could ever be peace on earth ever ever. Sorry, come
Speaker 1: back and intervene again.
Speaker 3: That's pretty much it.
Speaker 2: It's gonna take an actual act of God for there
Speaker 2: to ever be world peace.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Human nature is human nature.
Speaker 1: Damn you have ye have little faith, sir, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I have faith in God.
Speaker 1: I just have a less than zero faith in humanity,
Speaker 1: like by and large, faith in God, but no faith
Speaker 1: in his creation. That's that's that's kind of a slap
Speaker 1: in the basically. I mean, I get it, I do.
Speaker 1: I'm not even trying to throw shade. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that if there was some kind of divine intermediary that
Speaker 1: would be able to get everybody on the same page.
Speaker 1: You would be inclined to not believe that that's even
Speaker 1: a possibility.
Speaker 2: Because the cycle of humanity happens right. Good times create
Speaker 2: weak men. Weak men create hard times, hard times create
Speaker 2: hard men, hard men create good times, and the cycle repeats.
Speaker 2: It's been done so throughout history, and again we can acknowledge.
Speaker 2: Took a look at ancient Greece, ancient Persia, ancient China,
Speaker 2: ancient Rome. Whatever, humans have been human ing, people have
Speaker 2: been peopling, and yeah, there's some nuances here and there,
Speaker 2: depending on what century you're talking about, but essentially, yeah,
Speaker 2: every time they get to like a really good level
Speaker 2: of prosperity, this kingdom, this country, whatever the case, nobody's
Speaker 2: fucking with them because they are top dog. They got
Speaker 2: more than enough food to feed everybody. They've got decent
Speaker 2: medicine per the day and age. Would bear with me here,
Speaker 2: all these things they are killing it. If they just
Speaker 2: stay the course, they'll fucking rule for a thousand years.
Speaker 2: And somehow they can't. They literally can't because they can't
Speaker 2: help themselves.
Speaker 3: But fuck it up. Because humans are humans.
Speaker 1: I have I have found the roadblock, the divide between
Speaker 1: us two. We finally got there. Like I think, I
Speaker 1: think faith in humanity and I don't. Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: faith that things can change. I'm not saying that I
Speaker 1: have faith necessarily in humanity. But if we are all,
Speaker 1: whether you believe that we're all one, or you believe
Speaker 1: that we're all God's creation or whatever, I'm inclined to
Speaker 1: believe that, let's just say we are God's creation, right,
Speaker 1: I'm inclined to believe that God would have enough love
Speaker 1: in his heart that eventually humanity would be able to
Speaker 1: figure it out because we would be therefore an extension
Speaker 1: of him, right, And if we are an extension of him,
Speaker 1: of course we would have the ability to be able
Speaker 1: to transcend our human, animalistic mind in order to even
Speaker 1: somewhat get on the same on the same page as
Speaker 1: as God or the creation or the creator.
Speaker 2: Bro, we can't even get on the same page with
Speaker 2: things that are very basic, like realistically very basic.
Speaker 1: I guess I just more of an optimist than you are.
Speaker 2: And I do believe that world peace will happen, But
Speaker 2: I also think that is a massive sign and that
Speaker 2: it's not going to last very long. But it's going
Speaker 2: to be by divine intervention, right, It's only going to
Speaker 2: be for a few years, and all this until the
Speaker 2: thousand year reign and all this stuff, like.
Speaker 3: I said, not going on in religious box here.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, if we are, if we're really gonna call
Speaker 2: it out for what it is, it just doesn't seem
Speaker 2: like it's a real possibility. We can't agree as a
Speaker 2: as a culture, not even as a people, not even
Speaker 2: as a world race of humanity, we as a culture
Speaker 2: in just America, hell, just your state can't agree if
Speaker 2: we should have a strong military or a weak military,
Speaker 2: how many genders there are? Is COVID real or is
Speaker 2: it a threat? Are kim trails real? We cannot agree
Speaker 2: on the very basics. There's no way you're gonna get
Speaker 2: people to agree on what is enlightenment Jonathan, Right, Enlightenment
Speaker 2: for you might be different than enlightenment for me, which
Speaker 2: is completely different than enlightenment for my four year old.
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I guess my point is is that I believe that
Speaker 1: it's a possibility, and I believe that the powers that
Speaker 1: be believe that that's also a possibility. Otherwise, why would
Speaker 1: they rain down on us, rain down on us every
Speaker 1: single day with propaganda, with things that make us sick,
Speaker 1: with things that make us crazy, with things that are
Speaker 1: designed to take away the human will. Right if if
Speaker 1: if they honestly thought that we were that dumb and
Speaker 1: that's stupid, and that incapable of being able to transcend
Speaker 1: this human animalistic mind, why would they go to the
Speaker 1: fucking corners of the earth to try and manipulate us
Speaker 1: in every single way. I believe that we have it
Speaker 1: in us, but it's probably not even probably, I'm sure
Speaker 1: of it that that's that's why they hit us in
Speaker 1: all these different directions, such as the camtrails, the floor ride,
Speaker 1: the five G, all the propaganda via news and information outlets,
Speaker 1: every every single bill that is passed, every single dividing
Speaker 1: thing that they possibly do. They do that to prevent
Speaker 1: us from getting to what we're inevitably supposed to to
Speaker 1: get to, which I believe would be working in unison
Speaker 1: and as a as a whole.
Speaker 3: So I think they just do it for the money.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're trying to extore as much money and
Speaker 2: influence and power out of us as they can.
Speaker 1: They print the money, they're the ones in control of
Speaker 1: the money. Why do they need to manipulate the fucking
Speaker 1: people for that.
Speaker 2: The worth of the dollar is not determined by the
Speaker 2: people using it. That just because they print the money
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that they create the money.
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They're like, if they create such a system of consumerism, right,
Speaker 2: and they hit us with all these chemicals and all
Speaker 2: these things to double, triple, quadruple down on us being
Speaker 2: consumer based people, then we constantly stay in debt, which
Speaker 2: means we constantly owe someone, which means we're constantly our
Speaker 2: nuts are and advice to them, whoever they might be.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's the bank, maybe it's the government, maybe it's
Speaker 2: the RS, maybe it's whoever. Then if we get sick
Speaker 2: from all these chemicals, we have to go to them
Speaker 2: our bullshit medical system to try to get clean and
Speaker 2: get healed.
Speaker 1: And then we're getting more chemicals to fight the chemicals.
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's a perpetual cycle of keeping us so dogmatically faced
Speaker 2: down in the dirt that we'll never start looking up.
Speaker 3: I think that's more or less what that's about.
Speaker 1: So we're just coming into a philosophical disagreement, I'm you know,
Speaker 1: of the mind. The reason why you know, my personal
Speaker 1: willingness to talk about conspiracies every day is to try
Speaker 1: and show all the good cult members of the world
Speaker 1: and of the universe, if we have any alien listeners
Speaker 1: out there. Is to try and show all the different
Speaker 1: ways that our government and everything has transpired in the
Speaker 1: past and currently happening in ways that are designed to
Speaker 1: turn you into more of your human, animalistic nature and
Speaker 1: away from your spiritual you know whatever creation like nature.
Speaker 1: That's honestly, that is the reason why I do this,
Speaker 1: like it is the reason because I think that if
Speaker 1: it wasn't for all these things, we would have been
Speaker 1: there a long time ago.
Speaker 3: Bro, we're kind of on the same path here.
Speaker 2: But I also kind of believe that humans are humans,
Speaker 2: not the soul. The human is more or less an
Speaker 2: animal by nature, right, And things that feel good for
Speaker 2: the body are typically not good for the soul.
Speaker 3: So I believe that.
Speaker 2: We have to turn more towards our soul's health rather
Speaker 2: than our body and what feels good.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 3: I think we're supposed to. I think that's the entire point.
Speaker 2: We're supposed to deny the flesh that our soul can
Speaker 2: be for to use your terms enlightened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're supposed to. But with given, But with given
Speaker 1: the options of doing one or the other, you choose
Speaker 1: the one of the flesh.
Speaker 2: The humans are gonna be the humans, dude. The soul
Speaker 2: is not speaking at that point. The human is saying,
Speaker 2: all right, hand you my protection, and I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: believe that you're gonna protect me. Sorry that nobody has
Speaker 2: ever said that. That's a really good idea. And in
Speaker 2: the countries that have done very similar things, everything has
Speaker 2: gone tits up. Look at Australia, look at England, look
Speaker 2: at half of Europe where they don't allow guns, and
Speaker 2: look at how their people are responding to threats that
Speaker 2: inevitably will come. That's it's going to happen, regardless of
Speaker 2: what you believe or whatever. Whether it's immigrants, whether it's
Speaker 2: one bad actor who loses mind one day and goes,
Speaker 2: I'm a stabbing spree, whatever the case is. All of
Speaker 2: these countries or they don't have weapons to protect themselves,
Speaker 2: are not doing well. The only nations that are systemically
Speaker 2: doing really decently are those that can protect themselves. So
Speaker 2: I'm not saying the two are necessarily connected, but I'm
Speaker 2: also showing that there is a connection.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I guess I'm just more hopeful,
Speaker 1: more optimistic, more seeing the writing on the wall. That
Speaker 1: in not saying that you're not I'm just saying, you know,
Speaker 1: we see it through different perspectives. That's totally fine. But
Speaker 1: all right, let's get to the actual story here of
Speaker 1: Valiant Thor. And I guess the reason why I'm so
Speaker 1: motivated to even have that kind of conversation is because
Speaker 1: I'm inclined to believe that even if this Valiant Thor
Speaker 1: thing never happened, some suggest it was just a story.
Speaker 1: It's not real. It's a fictionalized story, even though it
Speaker 1: is listed as nonfiction, and I'm inclined to believe that
Speaker 1: something like this would be possible. So that being said,
Speaker 1: let's get to it. On March sixteenth of nineteen fifty seven,
Speaker 1: just outside of Alexandria, Virginia, a Strange Craft allegedly descended
Speaker 1: this was no chaotic UFO crash, nor just a regular flyby.
Speaker 1: It was a controlled landing from this ship's step day
Speaker 1: being who called himself Valiant Thor. According to Frank Stranger's
Speaker 1: who is the one that wrote the book called Strangers
Speaker 1: at the Pentagon, which we have the book, maybe we'll
Speaker 1: do a whole episode on that one day. It's not
Speaker 1: very long. It's like it's one hundred and twenty seven pages,
Speaker 1: but there's like a lot of pictures and you know,
Speaker 1: so it's really like one hundred pages. But he's the
Speaker 1: guy that was really the one that was, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of bring about the story of Valiant Thor so
Speaker 1: Frank Strangers. According to him, Thor's first move wasn't secrecy
Speaker 1: or aggression. Instead, he walked with confidence, requesting an audience
Speaker 1: with President Eisenhower. Unlike the Grays, who slipped into the
Speaker 1: show to cut covert deals, Thor entered with openness. Military
Speaker 1: officers were stunned, not just by the fact of his arrival,
Speaker 1: but by his appearance. He was not monstrous, not otherworldly grotesque.
Speaker 1: He looked human, so human, in fact, that some believe
Speaker 1: that he could have walked unnoticed through the streets of Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. That night marked the beginning of a saga
Speaker 1: that would carry Thor directly into the Pentagon's inner sanctum. So,
Speaker 1: who is this valianhor They say that he's from Venus. Okay,
Speaker 1: gets kind of crazy. Scientists will say Venus is uninhabitable,
Speaker 1: the land is too crazy. I get where you would
Speaker 1: say that. However, Valienthori said that he lived inside of Venus,
Speaker 1: inner Earth or inner Venus, not inner Earth. So valienthor
Speaker 1: wasn't just another contact detail. His description set him apart.
Speaker 1: Standing about six feet tall with wavy brown hair and
Speaker 1: piercing eyes, he radiated calm intelligence. His hands were flawless,
Speaker 1: no finger prints. His mind, strangest claimed, operated at an
Speaker 1: IQ level of above twelve hundred. Thor could speak every
Speaker 1: language on Earth, and he communicated telepathically when he wished.
Speaker 1: He identified his origin as Venus. To skeptics, Venus was inhospitable,
Speaker 1: its atmosphere a crucible of pressure and heat. But two
Speaker 1: believers Venusian might have meant something else, a higher dimensional origin,
Speaker 1: a realm aligned with the symbolic meaning of Venus, which
Speaker 1: would be love, harmony, and beauty. Thor did not come alone.
Speaker 1: His ship, called Victor One, hovered in Earth's skies create
Speaker 1: a crewed by his companions named Don, Jill and Tania.
Speaker 1: Together they represented a delegation of peace. So and we're
Speaker 1: gonna get way more. This is kind of the spark
Speaker 1: notes because this is so deep, dude, Like, I've become
Speaker 1: obsessed with this Valiant Thor thing. And by the way,
Speaker 1: since I mentioned it in the previous episode, Nick was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: do you guys shoot the Valiant Thor episode yet? Electro
Speaker 1: Nick and I was like, no, we're actually shooting it
Speaker 1: this morning. He goes, bet, all right, I'm gonna send
Speaker 1: you this. And so we have another thing that we're
Speaker 1: gonna read a little bit later to from Cab, which
Speaker 1: is the Pleadian kind of guy. But I'm not saying that,
Speaker 1: you know, take with that what you will. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to throw it out there since we're getting we sure.
Speaker 1: So there were the Pentagon years, so instead of being
Speaker 1: detained or dissected, Thor was granted a kind of strange respect.
Speaker 1: Strangers claimed that Thor was ushered into the Pentagon and
Speaker 1: given a special clearance. He wasn't a guest, he wasn't
Speaker 1: a fleeting guest. He stayed not for a day, not
Speaker 1: for a week, but he stayed in the Pentagon for
Speaker 1: nearly three years, from nineteen fifty seven to nineteen sixty.
Speaker 1: During that time, Thor supposedly held private meetings with President Eisenhower,
Speaker 1: Vice President Richard Nixon, and key Pentagon officials. His presidence
Speaker 1: became a quiet, unspoken fact within certain corridors of power.
Speaker 1: To those who encountered him, Thor projected a sense of serenity,
Speaker 1: aura that suggested not conquest but compassion. Yet his mission
Speaker 1: carried urgency. He had not come merely to observe. He
Speaker 1: had come to offer something humanity had never been given before.
Speaker 1: So this is where the two stories may conflate. You know,
Speaker 1: was it Nordic's in the beginning that offered the peace
Speaker 1: and the happiness and all that and all that stuff
Speaker 1: that eventually got turned down. Could it have been Valley
Speaker 1: in Thor, the same exact story but a different name.
Speaker 1: Some people disagree. Some people say no, these are two
Speaker 1: separate events. Some people say it's the same exact thing. So,
Speaker 1: you know, take what we're gonna try and get to
Speaker 1: the bottom of that. But it's not accepted one way
Speaker 1: or another that these that the valiant Thor was the
Speaker 1: Nordic that originally offered peace, or if this was a
Speaker 1: separate story, so just want to throw that out there. However,
Speaker 1: Thor's message was clear, lay down your nuclear arms, and
Speaker 1: this is why people would conflate the two because both
Speaker 1: messages said basically the same thing, right, So Valiant Thor,
Speaker 1: some people just say val Thor that his message was clear,
Speaker 1: lay down your nuclear arms. The arms race, he warned,
Speaker 1: threatened not just humanity, but the stability of realms beyond
Speaker 1: nuclear war would echo across dimensions, disrupting cosmic balance. In
Speaker 1: exchange for peace, Thor promised treasures that no human government
Speaker 1: had ever conceived, technology to cure disease, extend life, and
Speaker 1: eliminate poverty. He spoke of guiding humanity into an age
Speaker 1: of unity, spiritual growth, and harmony with the cosmos. Unlike
Speaker 1: the Grays who asked for bodies and blood, Thor offered healing.
Speaker 1: Unlike the greata Treaty, which bound humanity the secrecy and
Speaker 1: manipula and manipulation, Thor proposed open salvation. His words carried
Speaker 1: both scientific authority and spiritual resonance. He was, in effect
Speaker 1: a cosmic prophet, so to say, but prophets rarely find
Speaker 1: welcome in the hall built on power. Very true, sounds
Speaker 1: about right. So then, of course there was the rejection
Speaker 1: Eisenhower himself. According to by the way that Frank Strangers
Speaker 1: his name is doctor Frank Strangers, doctor Strange, and he's
Speaker 1: talking Stranges though I know, but think about it like
Speaker 1: it's kind of funny. His name is doctor Strange's and
Speaker 1: he's talking about a being called Thor, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it gets a little marvelly up in here.
Speaker 3: I feel that do we know what his doctorate is in?
Speaker 1: I don't remember. We might, we might come across that.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna look into it. Doctor Frank Strangers.
Speaker 1: Strangers, yes, plural, all right. So Eisenhower himself, according to Strangers,
Speaker 1: was intrigued. The President knew the dangers of the nuclear age,
Speaker 1: but within the Pentagon, voices grew louder against Thors's proposal.
Speaker 1: Disarmament would cripple America's military edge, peace would gut the
Speaker 1: economy of war, pharmaceutical giants would collapse if diseases were eradicated,
Speaker 1: and in short, the world order as it was would
Speaker 1: dissolve the military industrial complex, a phrase Eisenhower himself would
Speaker 1: later warn about could not allow such a bargain, so
Speaker 1: the offer was declined. Humanity rejected Venus. Instead, it clung
Speaker 1: to the shadow deals of the greata Treaty. Thor Salvation
Speaker 1: was brushed aside, not because it lacked merit, but because
Speaker 1: it threatened those who profited from war, sickness and fear.
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean, all right, did.
Speaker 1: You find out what his doctorate was in?
Speaker 2: No, I'm looking into him now. Virtually nothing is known
Speaker 2: about Stranger's childhood and youth. As a teenager, he was
Speaker 2: allegedly the victim of a kidnapping and robbery, during which
Speaker 2: he was allegedly shot, and then next thing you know,
Speaker 2: he pops on the scene. In the seventh International World
Speaker 2: Congress of UFO Researchers, which took place.
Speaker 3: In Mainz, Germany, in November.
Speaker 2: Nineteen sixty seven, at which Strangers spoke alongside Hermann Oberth
Speaker 2: and Eric von Danik And among others. He hailed doctorates
Speaker 2: in theology and psychology from Florida State University and a
Speaker 2: doctorate in criminology from the National Institute of Criminology in Washington.
Speaker 2: He also studied theological seminaries in Macau and Hong Kong.
Speaker 1: Interesting that he would have a doctorate in theology.
Speaker 2: In nineteen sixty four, he was awarded the title of
Speaker 2: Honorary Public Prosecutor of the State of Louisiana, oh. He
Speaker 2: was the president of the Worldwide Pastors Association International Evangelicism Crusade, Inc.
Speaker 2: And the director of the National Investigations Committee on Unidentified
Speaker 2: Flying Objects, which he founded in July nineteen sixty seven
Speaker 2: and which still exists today as of twenty twenty five
Speaker 2: in Chatsworth, Los Angeles.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 2: He was also a sixty seven. He was an honorary
Speaker 2: member of the German UFO IFO Studies Society, which has
Speaker 2: been founded in nineteen fifty nine by painter and publisher
Speaker 2: Karl Velt in Wi Wisebaden, and also hosted mains conference. Okay,
Speaker 2: so has no, he's not a scrub, but he has
Speaker 2: doctorates in theology, psychology and then went to do seminary work.
Speaker 3: He is a doctor in criminology.
Speaker 2: He got a public prosecutor in the Stale Louisiana, and so.
Speaker 3: Basically nothing is known about his early life.
Speaker 2: But then when he does pop on the scene, you
Speaker 2: know he's at a UFO conference and has all these
Speaker 2: credentials from all these colleges.
Speaker 1: Just saying he's not crackhead bill on the streets of
Speaker 1: New Orleans. No, no, no, not by any means, not
Speaker 1: from what I could tell anyone so yeah, So then
Speaker 1: there was a departure. So Thor didn't rage, nor did
Speaker 1: he retaliate. For three years, he lingered in the Pentagon,
Speaker 1: working quietly, meeting with leaders, holding space for his mission. Finally,
Speaker 1: in March of nineteen sixty, Thor departed. He returned to
Speaker 1: Victor on his ship stationed nearby. According to Strangers, Thor
Speaker 1: and his crew never truly left left. They remain orbiting Earth,
Speaker 1: watching humanity struggle, waiting for the day when we might
Speaker 1: accept their help. Pants This paints Thor not as a
Speaker 1: failed diplomat, but as a patient guardian. His departure was
Speaker 1: not abandonment. It was a retreat with hope. Humanity had
Speaker 1: chosen its path, but the offer of Venus still hovered above.
Speaker 1: So all right, so let's get into his legacy and symbolism.
Speaker 1: After Thor's departure, the story lived on through Stranger's ministry,
Speaker 1: his books, and UFO circles. To some, it was proof
Speaker 1: of suppressed salvation. To others, it was allegory Thor as
Speaker 1: a christ like figure rejected by those in power. Venus
Speaker 1: long the symbol of love, sent a messenger of harmony
Speaker 1: and humanity turned away in the larger tapestry of Ufo lore,
Speaker 1: Thor's story became a counterweight to the darker Greata Treaty,
Speaker 1: where the Grays were seen as cold manipulators. Thor represented
Speaker 1: cosmic compassion. Where Creata demanded secrecy and sacrifice, Thor offered
Speaker 1: abundance and healing. The symbolism is stark. Humanity stood at
Speaker 1: a crossroads in the nineteen fifty between fear and love
Speaker 1: and chose fear. So all right, So what if we
Speaker 1: said no to salvation? What if that really was what happened?
Speaker 1: So the haunting question remained, what if we had accepted
Speaker 1: Thor's offer? Would we live in a world without war?
Speaker 1: Would disease and poverty be relics of the past. Would
Speaker 1: humanity have ascended into cosmic unity instead of technological enslavement.
Speaker 1: The story of Valiant Thor is more than Ufo mythology.
Speaker 1: It is a mirror held up to humanity when salvation
Speaker 1: appeared not in a church but in a spaceship. Did
Speaker 1: we fail the test? Are we still paying the price today?
Speaker 1: Living in the shadow of a treaty that we accepted
Speaker 1: with the grace while rejecting the messenger of Venus? So
Speaker 1: there were two offers. There were two paths. The greata
Speaker 1: Treaty bound us to shadowy powers that fed on fear.
Speaker 1: Valiant Thor offered us light, healing, and peace. In the end,
Speaker 1: the Pentagon chose to graze. But the legend says that
Speaker 1: Thor never left that above us. On Victor one, he
Speaker 1: awaits watching, hoping, maybe even praying that one day we'll
Speaker 1: be ready to say yes. Until then, the question echoes
Speaker 1: across time and space. When the chance for salvation came
Speaker 1: not from the heavens of scripture, but from the stars themselves,
Speaker 1: why did we slam the door? Okay, so that is
Speaker 1: kind of the overarching thing. Just wanted to throw that
Speaker 1: out there. There is.
Speaker 2: Which is also very remnant of the human condition, like
Speaker 2: we were talking about earlier, not just Jesus, but multiple
Speaker 2: quote unquote saviors have tried and every time they get
Speaker 2: shut down. I think that more aligns.
Speaker 3: With human nature than anything else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's progress towards evolution, I guess, or its
Speaker 1: lack of progress, right right, So anyway, all right, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get to I kind of want to just lay
Speaker 1: out the spark Notes version of the story. In that way,
Speaker 1: we have the whole story in our in our minds,
Speaker 1: so that we can kind of know where we're at
Speaker 1: in the story whenever we start getting down in the
Speaker 1: nitty gritty of the details.
Speaker 3: Is that a picture of the Pentagon in the background?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: They yeah, and AI am well of like a Pentagon.
Speaker 2: It's not, But anyway, I'm just curious. I saw the
Speaker 2: wall and I was like, I know one building that
Speaker 2: looks like that that I've seen a million fucking times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if it's AI or not. It
Speaker 1: kind of well, it might be it is, but the
Speaker 1: trees and the lights down here, the windows look kind
Speaker 1: of real. I don't know, it could be. So anyway,
Speaker 1: our first article is going to be coming from above
Speaker 1: the normnews dot com, so shout out to them. This
Speaker 1: was an article written in June twenty six, twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: and it's titled Valiant thor the Venusian at the Heart
Speaker 1: of the Pentagon. So in March of nineteen fifty seven,
Speaker 1: the surprising event took place near Alexandria, Virginia. Two local
Speaker 1: police officers stumbled upon a landed spacecraft unlike anything that
Speaker 1: they had ever seen. Inside was a being named Valiant Thor. Thor,
Speaker 1: who claimed to come from Venus, was promptly taken to
Speaker 1: the Pentagon under heavy security. This marked the beginning of
Speaker 1: one of the most intriguing episodes in the history of
Speaker 1: extraterrestrial encounters. Valiant Thor's appearance and demeanor were strikingly human,
Speaker 1: but his knowledge and technology were far beyond Earth's capabilities.
Speaker 1: His initial meeting with President Eisenhower and Vice President Nixon
Speaker 1: was set against a backdrop of Cold War tensions and
Speaker 1: nuclear fears. Thor's mission was straightforward to offer guidance in
Speaker 1: advanced technology to help humanity avoid self destruction, particularly through
Speaker 1: nuclear war. His warnings were stark, but his solutions carried
Speaker 1: a message of hope, envisioning a future where peace and
Speaker 1: scientific progress could elevate humanity. The first encounters with Thor
Speaker 1: were filled with cautious curiosity. The Pentagon, a stronghold of
Speaker 1: earthly power, found it challenging to reconcile Thor's otherworldly claims
Speaker 1: with his human like appearance. His proposals, while intriguing, were
Speaker 1: seen as potential threats to establish to the established order.
Speaker 1: The economic and societal disruptions they might cause were deemed
Speaker 1: too risky. Yet Thor remained steadfast, continuing his mission within
Speaker 1: the Pentagon's secure environment. Thor's abilities were nothing short of extraordinary.
Speaker 1: His uniform, for instance, was indestructible, resistant to bullets, acid,
Speaker 1: and even high velocity drills.
Speaker 3: How do we know that?
Speaker 1: Did they try shooting him and throwing acid on him?
Speaker 1: I mean he was in the Pentagon for three years allegedly,
Speaker 1: so like he just allowed them to like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: try me out. Or were they like initially like, all right,
Speaker 1: fuck this, we got to kill this guy.
Speaker 2: And they were like, huh so he's unkillable. I guess
Speaker 2: we were forced to listen to him.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 3: I'm just curious how they've discovered these things.
Speaker 1: It maybe both, you know. Maybe they were like, let's
Speaker 1: kill this fucking guy, and he was like try it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can try, you know. But it was
Speaker 1: his ability to teleport and manipulate perceptions that truly set
Speaker 1: him apart. Thor could and moved through the Pentagon unnoticed,
Speaker 1: rendering himself invisible to those around him. This skill allowed
Speaker 1: him to navigate the corridors of power with ease, maintaining
Speaker 1: the confidentiality necessary for his mission. One of the most
Speaker 1: astonishing aspects of Thor's technology was his communication devices. These
Speaker 1: included holographic projectors capable of creating lifelike images. Imagine pressing
Speaker 1: a button and watching a wall transform into a transparent
Speaker 1: screen revealing a scene outside the Pentagon. The simplicity and
Speaker 1: sophistication of his technology left those who witnessed it in awe.
Speaker 1: Despite Thor's technological marvels and his urgent message, his efforts
Speaker 1: were continually thwarted by the entrenched interest of Earth's power structures.
Speaker 1: Military and political leaders were more concerned with maintaining their
Speaker 1: grip on power than embracing the transformative changes that Thor proposed.
Speaker 1: His warnings about nuclear weapons and offers of advanced knowledge
Speaker 1: were met with polite skepticism and ultimately dismissed. The potential
Speaker 1: for societal upear and economic disruption was too great of
Speaker 1: a risk. Thor's frustration grew as he observed humanity's reluctance
Speaker 1: to change his mission while noble faced formidable obstacles. He
Speaker 1: sought to initiate a new era of peace and technological advancement,
Speaker 1: but the inertia of established power structures proved too strong. Nevertheless,
Speaker 1: Thor remained committed working through indirect channels and seeking out
Speaker 1: individuals who were receptive to his message. One such individual
Speaker 1: was doctor Frank E. Strange's, a minister and UFO investigator.
Speaker 1: Strangers first met Thor at the Pentagon, where he was
Speaker 1: struck by Thorp's piercing gaze and calm authority. Over the years,
Speaker 1: Strangers became an important figure in documenting Thor's mission and
Speaker 1: sharing his experience with the world. Through their conversations, Thor
Speaker 1: revealed more about his home planet, Venus and his views
Speaker 1: on Earth's future. Thor's descriptions of Venus were captivating. He
Speaker 1: spoke of a planet where technology and spirituality coexisted in harmony,
Speaker 1: where peace and enlightenment were the norm. Venusian society, according
Speaker 1: to Thor, had long ago transcended the petty conflicts and
Speaker 1: destructive tendencies that plagued Earth. They had no need for
Speaker 1: weapons of mass destruction, and their technology was used to
Speaker 1: improve the quality of life for all. Thor's mission on
Speaker 1: Earth was clear, to help humanity avoid the same pitfalls
Speaker 1: that his people had overcome. He emphasized the importance of
Speaker 1: spiritual growth alongside technological progress. Thor spoke of a higher power,
Speaker 1: a force guiding the universe towards balance and harmony. He
Speaker 1: referenced historical and spiritual figures, suggesting that many of Earth's
Speaker 1: great teachers had also been guided by this higher force.
Speaker 1: As Thor's time on Earth continued, he faced numerous challenges
Speaker 1: and dangers. His message was not always welcomed, and there
Speaker 1: was always those who saw him as a threat. Despite this,
Speaker 1: Thor remained resolute. He continued to share his knowledge and
Speaker 1: technology with those who would listen, hoping to plant the
Speaker 1: seeds of change. In one particular dramatic incident, Thor narrowly
Speaker 1: escaped a poisoning attempt during a conference. He was approached
Speaker 1: by two men posing as journalists, who offered him a
Speaker 1: drink laced with a deadly substance. Fortunately, Thor detected the
Speaker 1: poison in time and was able to avoid harm. This
Speaker 1: event underscored the risks faced by those who challenged the
Speaker 1: status quo and sought to introduce radical new ideas. So
Speaker 1: throughout these trials, Thor's message remained consistent. He urged humanity
Speaker 1: to embrace peace and unity, to look beyond their immediate
Speaker 1: concerns and consider broader implications of their actions. Thor believed
Speaker 1: that with the right guidance, humanity could achieve great things
Speaker 1: and take its place among the advanced civilizations of the cosmos.
Speaker 1: As Thor's mission neared its end, he prepared for the
Speaker 1: departure from Earth in March of nineteen sixty. He left
Speaker 1: behind a network of individuals dedicated to his cause. These people,
Speaker 1: many of whom remain non anonymous, continue to work quietly
Speaker 1: spreading Thor's message and applying the shared knowledge that he shared. Rather,
Speaker 1: they operate in various fields, from science and technology to
Speaker 1: spirituality and education, all working towards a fusion of future
Speaker 1: in vision by Thor. The story of Valiant Valiant Thor
Speaker 1: is a fascinating chapter in the history of extraterrestrial encounters.
Speaker 1: It challenges us to rethink our place in the universe
Speaker 1: and the potential paths our civilization can take. Thor's narrative
Speaker 1: offers a glimpse into a world where beings from another
Speaker 1: from other planets walk among us, sharing their wisdom and
Speaker 1: technology to guide humanity toward a brighter future. Valian Thor's
Speaker 1: mission was an urgent appeal for change. It encouraged humanity
Speaker 1: to look beyond immediate concerns and consider the broader implications
Speaker 1: of its actions. It was a call for peace and progress,
Speaker 1: emphasizing that technological and spiritual advancement must go hand in hand.
Speaker 1: Through Thor's experiences, we see a world filled with potential,
Speaker 1: tempered by the challenges and resistance of those reluctant to change.
Speaker 1: Valiant Thor's story continues to inspire curiosity and debate. It
Speaker 1: stands as a testament on to the ongoing quest for
Speaker 1: understanding and the belief that humanity is cape of achieving
Speaker 1: great things if it remains open to new ideas and possibilities.
Speaker 1: His legacy serves as a powerful reminder of the potential
Speaker 1: for human transformation and the importance of maintaining an open mind,
Speaker 1: and as his jour journey comes to a close, we
Speaker 1: are left with a sense of wonder and possibility. His
Speaker 1: story is not just about the extraterrestrial encounter, but an
Speaker 1: exploration of humanity's placed in the universe. It challenges challenges
Speaker 1: us to look beyond the ordinary and embrace the extraordinary,
Speaker 1: to seek out new knowledge, and to strive for a
Speaker 1: future where peace and progress are attainable for all. So
Speaker 1: shout out to the above the norm news. I thought
Speaker 1: that was a pretty cool article. It's you know, it
Speaker 1: doesn't get too detailed. We're going to get to the
Speaker 1: more detailed stuff.
Speaker 2: But h no, there's gonna be people that are like, well,
Speaker 2: where is the source? How do we know that he
Speaker 2: was in there for this long?
Speaker 3: Listen? Listen?
Speaker 2: It all goes into the conversation, right, it's all pieces
Speaker 2: of the puzzle that are being fit together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just saying well, and that's the That's the thing
Speaker 1: is that it's real, only documented by Frank Strangers into
Speaker 1: Strangers at the Pentagon book, right, which I believe was
Speaker 1: written in sixty seven, but it's talking about what happened
Speaker 1: in fifty seven, so you kind of, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you kind of got to take it on his word
Speaker 1: more than anything else. But it does corroborate with other
Speaker 1: stories such as degreata treaty. So I thought, could we
Speaker 1: be talking about the same thing, and if not, was
Speaker 1: this a second chance at the same attempt to bring
Speaker 1: peace and prosperity? And we still turn down even the
Speaker 1: second one. And I imagine if we turned down a
Speaker 1: second one, we'd turned down the thousandth one, right, right, So,
Speaker 1: and we do have a video of the man himself
Speaker 1: speaking on it, which would be doctor Frank Strange's it's
Speaker 1: going to get a little wild. So I do have
Speaker 1: a couple of more articles that I did want to
Speaker 1: get to. This would be the introduction of Valiant, or
Speaker 1: I just want to get to all right, here's where
Speaker 1: I wanted to get to. Right here, we've had enough fluff, right,
Speaker 1: we're trying to get to the actual facts here. So
Speaker 1: this is from Discovery UK dot com. Of course there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit of skepticism in there. You'd
Speaker 1: be an idiot not to be skeptical about this kind
Speaker 1: of thing, right for sure. I don't want to say
Speaker 1: an idiot, but just a little yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean to hear the story and just believe immediately,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's all real. Like no, You, as
Speaker 2: a logical person should at least have a few follow
Speaker 2: up questions after hearing stories like this.
Speaker 3: That's that's very normal.
Speaker 2: We ourselves have had quite a few follow up questions
Speaker 2: from the episode we.
Speaker 3: Did yesterday to this one.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's what we need.
Speaker 2: You shouldn't just accept whatever narrative, even if it's something
Speaker 2: that does fall in line with yours.
Speaker 3: You should question everything.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, shout out to bo Diggles answer slave question everything.
Speaker 1: Hopefully you're out there doing good there, Bud. So this
Speaker 1: is from as I said, Discovery UK. The story the
Speaker 1: story of Valiant Thor, visitor from Venus. So let's get
Speaker 1: fucking weird. The legend of Venusian Thor has captivated the
Speaker 1: imaginations of upologists and alien enthusiasts since the late nineteen fifties.
Speaker 1: According to the tale, Valiant Thor was a humanoid extraterrestrial
Speaker 1: from the planet Venus who arrived on Earth with a
Speaker 1: mission to share advanced technology, promote messages of peace, love
Speaker 1: and unity, and help humanity avoid self destruction. That does
Speaker 1: always seem to be the story?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, I just doesn't.
Speaker 2: It's always seem to be the story, doesn't it. You know,
Speaker 2: to try salvation humanity and it's like, are they?
Speaker 1: I mean, I would have to imagine statistically that there
Speaker 1: are a group of aliens out there that would do that.
Speaker 1: I think it's a you ever seen Starship Trooper?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you remember that that part where uh, you know,
Speaker 2: on the alien planet of Clendathu or whatever the fuck
Speaker 2: it was called, they had a Mormon church that they
Speaker 2: found it out there because the Mormons are of that
Speaker 2: mission work, you know, and that's just what they do.
Speaker 2: And then he got overrun by aliens. That's like humans
Speaker 2: trying to go out there and teach these people the
Speaker 2: good word in the good way and all of that. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I am sure that there is some sort of group
Speaker 2: of what we might call aliens that would come to
Speaker 2: Earth to try to spread the good Word, right, Okay,
Speaker 2: I get that. But with that being said, do the
Speaker 2: Mormons do that just out of the kindness of their
Speaker 2: heart or is there a bigger plan at foot? You know,
Speaker 2: I had that same skepticism towards any alien that like,
Speaker 2: we come in peace.
Speaker 3: It's like, but do you?
Speaker 1: I mean, you could really say the same about every
Speaker 1: religion that's always trying to prostolytize.
Speaker 2: But if they're proselytizing by saying we need your money,
Speaker 2: we need your time, we need your weapons, and then
Speaker 2: you'll be able to be a part of this click.
Speaker 1: It's like, hmm, I'm good if fucking Joel Ostein had
Speaker 1: enough money to buy a spacecraft, which I guarantee you
Speaker 1: he does, or at least pretty damn close to it,
Speaker 1: because that dude is making some cheese off of the
Speaker 1: good book. If that guy had enough money to be
Speaker 1: able to buy a spaceship, You trying to tell me
Speaker 1: that he wouldn't go to fucking Mars to try and
Speaker 1: prostlytize to the Martians.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think he would because they don't have
Speaker 2: what we would consider money. It's not profitable for him.
Speaker 2: And he is a prosperity gospel preacher. All he preaches
Speaker 2: about is prosperity, and if they don't have any prosperity
Speaker 2: to give him, I just don't think he'd be worth
Speaker 2: his time.
Speaker 3: That's just me.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I don't know. So anyhow, we will get
Speaker 1: to it. So the primary and only source of this
Speaker 1: astonishing story is a book published in nineteen sixty seven
Speaker 1: called Stranger at the Pentagon by Frankie Strangers, a Christian
Speaker 1: evangelical minister, a ufologist, author, and founder of the National
Speaker 1: Investigations Committee on Unidentified Flying Objects. So, just who was
Speaker 1: valiantor an alien, an actor, an urban legend, or an
Speaker 1: elaborate hoax? Where is he alleged to have come from?
Speaker 1: Did he work with America's highest ranking government officials? And
Speaker 1: are the supposed photograph of him, real or fake, there
Speaker 1: are photographs of them.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: So let's take a trip back to the nineteen fifties
Speaker 1: in an attempt to shed light on one of the
Speaker 1: strangest stories in the Annals of UFO and alien folklore,
Speaker 1: the tale of Valiant Thor. According to a stranger at
Speaker 1: the Pentagon book, Valiant Thor, an alien from Venus described
Speaker 1: as an inhumanly, inhumanely handsome man. Damn inhumanely handsome. I
Speaker 1: wish somebody would say that about me. I just say,
Speaker 1: good God. The description suck is dick a little harder writer. Yeah, yeah, Anyway,
Speaker 1: the handsome man landed his spacecraft supposedly named Victory one
Speaker 1: or Victor one, near the town of Alexandria and Virginia,
Speaker 1: a city on the Potomac. Is it Potomac River?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Potomac. That's when it runs through DC, a.
Speaker 1: Stone's throw from Washington, d C. One version of the
Speaker 1: story says that he, along with two traveling companions, were
Speaker 1: met by two policemen who escorted him to the Pentagon.
Speaker 1: Another says that he politely requested to speak to President
Speaker 1: Dwight Eisenhower. So why did Valiant Thor come to Earth.
Speaker 1: This is an artist impression of the surface of Venus.
Speaker 1: It's always an artist impression. And we got all these
Speaker 1: fucking satellites, we got all these rovers and everything. We
Speaker 1: always like, what is the point of putting cameras in
Speaker 1: space if we're always just going to get artist impressions.
Speaker 2: Well, that's of the surface, right, because right now we
Speaker 2: have like aerial view of the surface of Venus, but
Speaker 2: we don't have like a Venus rover. Right, we have
Speaker 2: a Mars rover, but we don't have a Venus rover.
Speaker 3: So it's like what.
Speaker 2: They believe the surface would look like if we did
Speaker 2: have a rover on.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it.
Speaker 1: Look looks strangely like the supposed surface of Mars. Just
Speaker 1: gonna throw that out there.
Speaker 2: Devoid of life, devoid of atmosphere, a bunch of dust,
Speaker 2: Yeah you right.
Speaker 1: Leaving aside for a moment, the perplexing story of Thor. Venus,
Speaker 1: somewhere between twenty five and one hundred and sixty one
Speaker 1: million miles from Earth, depending on the orbital cycle, is
Speaker 1: absolutely and entirely inhospitable. The mean temperature is over four
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty degrees celsius, which is approaching nine hundred
Speaker 1: degrees fahrenheit, pretty fucking height, which is why we don't
Speaker 1: have a rover on the surface. It would be torched
Speaker 1: and has the densest atmosphere of all the planets in
Speaker 1: the Solar System. The atmosphere is mostly carbon dioxide and
Speaker 1: the entire planet is covered in a thick cloud off
Speaker 1: sulfuric acid. But as Strange's story goes, that's where Valiant
Speaker 1: Thor and his interstellar delegation came from. That Thor's purpose,
Speaker 1: as described by Strange Strangers who claim to have had
Speaker 1: direct content or contact rather with this visitor from another planet,
Speaker 1: was to offer advanced technical knowledge, to promote peace and
Speaker 1: a higher level of spiritual enlightenment, and to warn against
Speaker 1: the dangers of nuclear weapons, poverty, and environmental destruction. In
Speaker 1: the book, Thor claimed his race had been monitoring Earth
Speaker 1: for hundreds of years and had been and had become
Speaker 1: increasingly concerned with the state of the planet. Hence his visit.
Speaker 1: He said to have brought messages of hope, urging people
Speaker 1: to work together for the common good. He advocated for
Speaker 1: the move to clean energy sources, and is supposed to
Speaker 1: have brought with him advancements in medicine, transportation, and energy
Speaker 1: production production that were centuries ahead of nineteen fifty science.
Speaker 1: More specifically, Strangers wrote about Thor's composite energy device, which
Speaker 1: was a zero carbon source of producing electricity and a
Speaker 1: replicator which was said to be able to precisely replicate
Speaker 1: any material without the need for extraction or mining. Or
Speaker 1: did he did Valiant Thor, an alleged alien from another world,
Speaker 1: truly accomplish the feats described in the book, which is
Speaker 1: said to bury strong resemblance to the classic nineteen fifty
Speaker 1: one sci fi film The Day the Earth Stood Still?
Speaker 1: Or did he exist solely in the creative imagination of
Speaker 1: Frank Strangers. It's always weird how all these kind of
Speaker 1: this kind of lure always comes out around the same time.
Speaker 1: So you have to look at it with with the
Speaker 1: skeptical eye, which.
Speaker 3: I will say The Day of the Earth Stood Still, If.
Speaker 1: You look at the old black and white movie, it's awesome.
Speaker 1: The one with Keanu Reeves also awesome, right, And that's
Speaker 1: that is a very thought provoking movie.
Speaker 2: Right when he comes down, he meets at the world
Speaker 2: leaders and they're like, you know, well, what are you
Speaker 2: doing on our planet in his response your planet, Yeah,
Speaker 2: because he's coming here to do some impending doom, because
Speaker 2: he's seen how humans will absolutely tear this place apart
Speaker 2: if they're left unchecked. And it's it's an amazing movie.
Speaker 2: I personally think so. And it's not like I believe
Speaker 2: it to be a true statement by any means, but
Speaker 2: it's a very thought provoking piece of cinema.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, but I would say that this is like,
Speaker 1: this story is like the Yend to the Yang of
Speaker 1: the the the movie version. Right, They're they're talking about
Speaker 1: kind of differing reasons why they're there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when the Day of the Earth, it's still the
Speaker 3: alien came to.
Speaker 2: Pretty much protect certain creatures, certain animals that are hard
Speaker 2: to replicate, but was also here to completely wipe out
Speaker 2: Sodom and Gomora style Noah's flood style, wipe out the
Speaker 2: rest of the Earth and hit the reset button.
Speaker 1: So the legend of Venusian Thor. There are suggestions in
Speaker 1: the popular narrative that official documentation and signed witness statements,
Speaker 1: including some from people described as high ranking government officials, exist,
Speaker 1: pertaining to Valiant Thor's visit, but as yet there have
Speaker 1: never been made public. They have never been made public
Speaker 1: or verified. The most commonly told version of the story
Speaker 1: was that Thor lived in the basement of the Pentagon
Speaker 1: for three years and took regular meetings with President Eisenhower,
Speaker 1: Vice President Nixon, and senior members of the armed forces.
Speaker 1: He's also alleged to have met with a number of
Speaker 1: scientists and religious leaders, appeared at the United Nations headquarters
Speaker 1: in New York City, and even attended a church in
Speaker 1: Alexandria where he preached messages of love and peace.
Speaker 3: That's interesting.
Speaker 1: There's also alleged to be one or more audio recordings,
Speaker 1: as well as a number of published photographs purporting to
Speaker 1: be of Valiant Thor, but without any concrete evidence to
Speaker 1: corroborate them. Indeed, the images are widely believed to be
Speaker 1: forgeries or simply those of normal men who had no
Speaker 1: idea the images were being misinterpreted as an extraterrestrial from Venus. Today,
Speaker 1: there's no substantive proof that Valiantor existed or had interactions
Speaker 1: with anyone at any level of the US government or elsewhere.
Speaker 1: Despite the lack of physical evidence, Valiant Thor from Venus
Speaker 1: has become an iconic figure within many UFO enthusiast communities.
Speaker 1: Supporters of the story argued that the secrecy of the
Speaker 1: government operations and the mysterious nature of his visit are
Speaker 1: consistent with other alleged extraterrestrial encounters. Skeptics, however, dismissed the
Speaker 1: tale as nothing more than a fantastical fabrication. The lack
Speaker 1: of any tangible proof, such as photographs or official documents,
Speaker 1: fuels ongoing debates about the authenticity of Stranger's claims. Of course,
Speaker 1: you gotta sort through these things, so, it says, Valian
Speaker 1: Thor's legend endors as a symbol of hope and cosmic benevolence,
Speaker 1: and indeed, many of these supposed image messages from outer
Speaker 1: space people coming together for the common good, transitioning to
Speaker 1: clean energy sources, promoting peace over hate, and environmental awareness
Speaker 1: resonate today. Despite the lack of evidence for the story,
Speaker 1: the narrative also aligns with the broader themes of extraterrestrial
Speaker 1: intelligence seeking to guide humanity towards a more enlightened and
Speaker 1: harmonious future. Overall, though despite being an intriguing story, the
Speaker 1: legend of Valiant Thor is currently unsupported by any credible evidence.
Speaker 1: It's widely regarded by most experts and researchers in the
Speaker 1: field of UFOs and alien visitations as either a complex
Speaker 1: hoax or a work of fiction. So, whether viewed as
Speaker 1: a genuine account or bizarre yet captivating myth, the story
Speaker 1: of Valiant Thor intrigues and inspires those who ponder the
Speaker 1: mysteries of the universe and possibly, however small, of other
Speaker 1: worldly visitors. So there is there's a conversation that I
Speaker 1: wanted to bring up here, and this is from the
Speaker 1: horse's mouth himself. Okay, doctor Strangers. Yeah, he's the one
Speaker 1: that wrote the book. I also, you know, and we
Speaker 1: can go over before we get to that. I kind
Speaker 1: of want to show this real quick too. I downloaded
Speaker 1: the PDF of the book from uh. I don't know
Speaker 1: why it does this, but I downloaded the PDF of
Speaker 1: The Stranger at the Pentagon book by doctor Frank Strangers.
Speaker 1: You can find it on archive dot org, very easy, free.
Speaker 1: It's said that there are like five or six different
Speaker 1: versions of the book. Some of them are abridged, some
Speaker 1: of them are forwarded. But I thought that one of
Speaker 1: the people that forwarded the story was interesting and you'll
Speaker 1: see why. So that's your boy Frank Strangers right there. Okay,
Speaker 1: it was forwarded by a very interesting individual. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna get to that. Let me see if I can
Speaker 1: find it scrolling booty about the author the acknowledgments. This
Speaker 1: is who it was forwarded by, Doctor Harley Bird. Okay,
Speaker 1: this Harley Bird, This same guy is the nephew of
Speaker 1: Dick Bird, of Richard fucking Bird.
Speaker 3: R interesting.
Speaker 1: So if it's just a hoax, and you had Richard
Speaker 1: Bird going to the poles and potentially talking about land
Speaker 1: beyond the poles being lush and vegetation, or possibly, you know,
Speaker 1: if maybe if you believe his diary where he went
Speaker 1: to the center of the earth and had conversations with aliens,
Speaker 1: if all of that is to be taken with a
Speaker 1: grain of salt, and you're not gonna believe it, why
Speaker 1: in the actual fuck? Why would why would Harley Andrew Bird,
Speaker 1: the great nephew of Admiral Bird, forward this story? I
Speaker 1: honestly could and tell you, but I'm I'm looking into doctor.
Speaker 1: He's a doctor, right, doctor Harley Bird, Doctor Harley Bird, Yes,
Speaker 1: great nephew I believe of old Dick Bird.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to find any kind of connection here. It
Speaker 3: says that he's the nephew.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. All the sources that I found he
Speaker 1: was the great nephew. And actually it says right here,
Speaker 1: here we go. Actually we'll just read this. This is
Speaker 1: his forward, so I believe it's his forward. But anyway,
Speaker 1: it says during the winner of nineteen fifty six to
Speaker 1: fifty seven, the Washington Washington, DC area was extremely cold,
Speaker 1: but it was a good feeling to be working in
Speaker 1: a high security position in the Pentagon. I lived only
Speaker 1: a short distance away in Georgetown, the old section of
Speaker 1: the nation's capital. Senator J. F. Kennedy lived on O Street,
Speaker 1: just a block away horn from our house on Prospect.
Speaker 1: During a successful tour with the US Naval Ceremonial Honor Guard,
Speaker 1: we had met with astronaut Glenn Cooper, Glenn Cooper Wally Sharrar,
Speaker 1: who were the first wave of successful space travelers. Also,
Speaker 1: we had visited the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier numerous times.
Speaker 1: It seemed like every time a visiting dignitary came to Washington,
Speaker 1: they lay a wreath at the tomb. We had met
Speaker 1: with the Queen of England several times at the airport.
Speaker 1: As these were some of the duties I performed as
Speaker 1: a young officer in the Navy. After carrying the two
Speaker 1: star flag at the funeral of my late uncle, Rear
Speaker 1: Admiral Richard E. Byrd, I was recommended for a security
Speaker 1: clearance and was a top secret clearance after a lengthy
Speaker 1: six month background study. After being transferred to the Chief
Speaker 1: of Naval Information or ch CHINFO I worked with. I
Speaker 1: worked in the Security Clearance section before being indoctrinated into
Speaker 1: the branch office of the Air Force called Project Blue Book.
Speaker 1: It was a joint service office that is two Marines, Army,
Speaker 1: two Navy, and three Air Force officers. The route the
Speaker 1: work was routine, opening incoming mail, sorting out what was
Speaker 1: called actual sightings as opposed to many fake UFO photos.
Speaker 1: We also acted as a public information office, but much
Speaker 1: like public but much like a public relations office. So
Speaker 1: he's going on about this, this is.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm missing something here, and I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to throw shade, you know, I do believe in
Speaker 2: UFOs and aliens and all these things, and all right,
Speaker 2: this being said, so this is the great nephew of
Speaker 2: Admiral Bird, and I don't know why he would be
Speaker 2: carrying the two star flag that's usually done by the
Speaker 2: honor guard for the funeral and all of.
Speaker 1: That, because he said I performed as a young officer
Speaker 1: in the Navy. After carrying the two star flag at
Speaker 1: the funeral of my late uncle, Rear Admiral Richard E. Byrd,
Speaker 1: I was recommended for a security clearance. It was granted
Speaker 1: a top secret clearance, So.
Speaker 2: As a young officer in the Navy, you would not
Speaker 2: be carrying the flag at a funeral detail. Maybe some
Speaker 2: special exception was made because it was a family member,
Speaker 2: but that that sounds weird. I've marched over a thousand funerals.
Speaker 2: I can tell you this with certainty. But like, okay,
Speaker 2: maybe an exception was made. I could I could buy
Speaker 2: the family member. You could, you could see that happen.
Speaker 2: Why whenever you have no background in intel or any
Speaker 2: of these things, you instantly get brought in for a
Speaker 2: background check and you're brought into this realm, like for
Speaker 2: what there seems to be something I'm missing here? Like
Speaker 2: every young naval officer is not brought into the mix,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, what the fuck was
Speaker 2: the connection here? His great uncle? That's not like he
Speaker 2: was like super They didn't grow up together, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, I honestly don't even know my
Speaker 2: great uncles.
Speaker 1: I found it, uh, and I had like differing reports
Speaker 1: whether it was his great uncle or or his actual
Speaker 1: like first uncle or whatever. This one's just saying that
Speaker 1: it was his late uncle. Didn't say great, but I
Speaker 1: found other articles that did say great, So there might
Speaker 1: be a little bit of miscommunication rate there. Either way,
Speaker 1: it's not unheralded that you would have somebody high ranking
Speaker 1: that their kid or their nephew or their daughter or
Speaker 1: whatever gets kind of vaulted up the path faster than
Speaker 1: everybody else, like I like to point to. I mean,
Speaker 1: think about the obvious ones. For example, like would Tucker
Speaker 1: Carlson be where he is today if it wasn't for
Speaker 1: his dad?
Speaker 9: Fair?
Speaker 2: Fair, you know, that's an example you can't make for
Speaker 2: the CIA, as much as he wants to try.
Speaker 3: To deny that.
Speaker 2: And then well later I found out that to be true,
Speaker 2: even though you knew years prior and admitted to it.
Speaker 1: But whatever, That's what I'm saying. So we see this
Speaker 1: kind of all the time, and maybe this is some
Speaker 1: kind of secret society initiation and some other shit going on.
Speaker 1: Behind closed doors. We don't know, like are they are
Speaker 1: they Freemasons? And what is the Freemason branch for kids?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 10: The Monaise Yeah, the is it monai'se m O n
Speaker 10: E T no Mollaians Malayians Yeah, yes, yes, they have
Speaker 10: the Malayans, which is supposed to be for the kids
Speaker 10: of the of the parents or whatever that are in
Speaker 10: the Freemasons.
Speaker 1: So it could be a situation like that where these
Speaker 1: kids are essentially kind of groomed to father or to
Speaker 1: follow in their father's or uncle's footsteps.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, and I'm not trying to, like
Speaker 2: I said, I'm not trying to throw shade at her
Speaker 2: like poke holes in it.
Speaker 1: I just I feel like we're missing a step here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe we are. So yeah, it's it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: I don't want to read too much of this because
Speaker 1: I do want to do a whole episode about reading
Speaker 1: this book because I found it fascinating with what I
Speaker 1: had read. But I wanted to get over to this
Speaker 1: website called the gooldwater dot com very interesting. This was
Speaker 1: posted May of twenty eighteen, but it says Valiant Thor
Speaker 1: the alien from Venus Eisenhower invited to live at the Pentagon.
Speaker 1: So now you have different stories, you know, which is interesting.
Speaker 1: How are you going to be having differ stories if
Speaker 1: it all comes from one fucking book. If that's the
Speaker 1: only source, how would you have multiple versions of the story? Now,
Speaker 1: I did say that it had been you know, the
Speaker 1: story had kind of been like redone several times and
Speaker 1: forwarded and reabridged and stuff like that. The original story,
Speaker 1: the original book actually was like two hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: six pages or something like that. And then you go
Speaker 1: and look at the story, the version of the story
Speaker 1: that I just brought up, it's only like one hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty something pages. So maybe I don't know. I
Speaker 1: was trying to find out, like what components of the
Speaker 1: story were taken out of the original story that caused
Speaker 1: it to be like one hundred pages less, And from
Speaker 1: all of my findings, there wasn't really that much taken away.
Speaker 1: It was just kind of reducing it and making it
Speaker 1: easier to read. So do with that as you will.
Speaker 1: You can still find the original version, so it's not
Speaker 1: like it was a book burn or anything like that.
Speaker 1: But anyhow, it says perhaps you heard of stranger at
Speaker 1: the Pentagon, a book by a man named doctor Frankie Strangers,
Speaker 1: who helped a top secret security clearance or who held
Speaker 1: a top secret security clearance at the Pentagon, But have
Speaker 1: you actually looked into it? Strangers tells a story of
Speaker 1: how on March sixteenth, nineteen fifty seven, an alien ship
Speaker 1: landed in a town called Alexandria in Virginia. Aboard the
Speaker 1: craft were four extraterrestrial beings, one of whom was named
Speaker 1: Valiant Or val Valiant Thor Okay. Val was eventually invited
Speaker 1: to live at the Pentagon on a VIP status for
Speaker 1: three years by President Eisenhower, and during that time he
Speaker 1: met with several high level government officials, including Nixon. Doctor
Speaker 1: Stranger says in nineteen fifty eight, he came into possession
Speaker 1: of a photograph of an extraterrestrian extraterrestrial named Valiant Thor
Speaker 1: and his second in command, female officer named Jill, just Jill.
Speaker 1: Doctor Strangers took the photograph of UFO two UFO conferences
Speaker 1: and said that Valiant Thor and Jill were extraterrestrials from
Speaker 1: planet Venus. He seemingly, his seemingly wildtail drew the attention
Speaker 1: of the authorities, and Doctor Strangers was contacted by a
Speaker 1: Pentagon official named Nancy Warren, who told him that Val
Speaker 1: himself had requested to meet with him. Doctor Strangers happily
Speaker 1: accepted the invitation and met with Val, who explained to
Speaker 1: him that he and his three person crew arrived on
Speaker 1: March sixteenth, nineteen fifty seven, in Alexandria, Virginia. When Nancy
Speaker 1: Warren landed in Alexandria accompanied by Doctor Strangers, they were
Speaker 1: met by two police officers who brought them to the Pentagon.
Speaker 1: Val would meet with Neil H. McElroy, the Secretary of
Speaker 1: Defense at that time, President Eisenhower, and President Vice President Nixon.
Speaker 1: Doctor Strangers claims that Val and his team met with
Speaker 1: senior government officials, including Air Force commanders, on several occasions,
Speaker 1: and gave them advice on policy in how to deal
Speaker 1: with other extraterrestrial beings. Doctor Strangers goes on to explain
Speaker 1: how a friendship was developed between himself and Vow, who
Speaker 1: even saved his life on several occasions. He said Vow
Speaker 1: was a leader from Venus who where he came from,
Speaker 1: and came to Earth to help overcome some of the
Speaker 1: issues threatening the planet. Doctor Strange's has several photos documenting
Speaker 1: the story, including pictures of Valiant Thor. He described how
Speaker 1: Val told him that he came from Venus, where his
Speaker 1: people live under the planet's surface. He is said to
Speaker 1: have six fingers, six toes, one lung, and a larger
Speaker 1: brain than humans. All right. Vou even took Doctor Strangers
Speaker 1: aboard his craft and showed him the assassination of Kennedy
Speaker 1: through a viewing device and said that he warned him
Speaker 1: not to run for office, So that's the assassination of
Speaker 1: Robert Kennedy, not JSK. He also said Thor had a
Speaker 1: way of using mind controllabilities that allowed him to mimic
Speaker 1: a Pentagon badge and even walk through walls. Val even
Speaker 1: offered to show President Eisenhower how to heal people without
Speaker 1: the use of medicine, but he declined and said it
Speaker 1: would destroy the economy. Makes sense. Doctor Strange also tells
Speaker 1: of how men in black followed him and even tried
Speaker 1: to kill him on several occasions, and if it was
Speaker 1: not for Val intervening intervening, they would not have succeeded.
Speaker 1: One such attempt left doctor Strange in the hospital with
Speaker 1: a broken neck after a car accident caused by the
Speaker 1: alleged men in black. He said, Vow came to his
Speaker 1: hospital bed and prayed over him and for a few hours,
Speaker 1: and a few hours later he walked out of the hospital.
Speaker 1: Another one of the men in black incidents included Val
Speaker 1: using his abilities to vaporize the tires of the men
Speaker 1: in Black's car following them. All right, so these seem
Speaker 1: like pretty fucking bold claims, right, but we're of the
Speaker 1: belief that there is a flavor of men in black
Speaker 1: that do exist, right yep, And so I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's pretty interesting. Now we're gonna get to the video
Speaker 1: of him speaking. Now, we're gonna intermittently stop in between
Speaker 1: certain things that he's going to say right here. But
Speaker 1: this is doctor Frank Stranger's at a conference where he
Speaker 1: tells the entire story. So are you ready to dive
Speaker 1: into this one?
Speaker 7: Sir?
Speaker 3: Oh I am.
Speaker 1: It's going to be very interesting. I found a good
Speaker 1: starting point, and so we're going to start it right here,
Speaker 1: and we will stop accordingly.
Speaker 9: How many of you in this audience have ever seen
Speaker 9: an unidentified flying object? Would you raise your hands right?
Speaker 9: How many have never seen anything unusual in the skies?
Speaker 9: All right, some of you haven't moved yet. How many
Speaker 9: of you don't give a hoot whether you see them
Speaker 9: or not? Okay, question how many of you would like
Speaker 9: to see something unusual? I know I'd get you to stay.
Speaker 9: All right, We'll see what we can arrange before the
Speaker 9: meeting is finished. I thoroughly enjoyed the wisdom, the understanding,
Speaker 9: and the knowledge of all the speakers thus far, and
Speaker 9: I feel privileged to stand on the same platform as
Speaker 9: they have, including beautiful Angelica. She did a fantastic job
Speaker 9: last night, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I'm going to
Speaker 9: move rather quickly on what I've got to say today
Speaker 9: because I want to get to the Dead Sea Scroll mysteries.
Speaker 9: The UFO phenomena has been with us for literally thousands
Speaker 9: and thousands of years. This is not something that just
Speaker 9: happened in nineteen forty seven. Prehistory reveals the existence of
Speaker 9: spacecraft as well as individuals from other worlds, and I'm
Speaker 9: going to go into that quite thoroughly in just a
Speaker 9: few moments, examining the origins of UFOs. First of all,
Speaker 9: the experts say that's the government experts. There's no such
Speaker 9: thing as a U I saw a bumper sticken when
Speaker 9: I left Los Angeles to come to Hawaii, and they
Speaker 9: said UFOs are real. The Air Force doesn't exist, but
Speaker 9: number one figments of the imagination. Some people say that
Speaker 9: these people do not see anything. Actually it's a psychological
Speaker 9: surge that they see something that isn't there, figments of
Speaker 9: the imagination. Well, I beg to different because I've questioned
Speaker 9: people from all walks of life since nineteen forty five,
Speaker 9: and I'm thoroughly convinced that many of the people, not
Speaker 9: all of them, but many of the most of them
Speaker 9: have actually had a strange and unusual experience of seeing
Speaker 9: something in the skies. Some of them come out of
Speaker 9: the water, some go diving into the waters, both oceans,
Speaker 9: rivers all over the world, oceans all over the world.
Speaker 9: The second possibility UFOs are secret devices of the United
Speaker 9: States Government. Before I say one word more, please understand,
Speaker 9: I'm not at odds. I'm not at war with the
Speaker 9: United States government. Despite what's happening in Washington, I still
Speaker 9: think we've got the best government and the most beautiful
Speaker 9: flag on the face of the earth. That's my feeling.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 9: The government has been actively engaged in actually building constructing
Speaker 9: unidentified flying objects. They have not gone as fast as
Speaker 9: those from outer space, but they have mystified people who
Speaker 9: have looked into the skies and have witnessed strange and
Speaker 9: unusual objects traveling at speeds exceeding twenty thousand miles per hour,
Speaker 9: violating every known law of aerodynamics. But those are not
Speaker 9: created by the government. They're extraterrestrial in origin. The third
Speaker 9: possibility some people say, well they come from Russia. Well,
Speaker 9: Russia has been also engaged in building such mechanics, such
Speaker 9: as a flying sauces for many many years, even when
Speaker 9: it was called the Soviet Union. They were busy trying
Speaker 9: to construct a spacecraft to go from this planet to
Speaker 9: other planets, but they have not fully succeeded. The fraud
Speaker 9: possibility is that some of them were created by the
Speaker 9: Nazis during the World War II, which is absolutely true.
Speaker 9: If you take a list of my books and tapes
Speaker 9: from my table today, you'll see I have a book
Speaker 9: called Nazi UFOs and Secret Bases on Earth. They have
Speaker 9: actually created and flown a flying saucered disk, and at
Speaker 9: the end of the war, the FURA insisted that they
Speaker 9: create such a disk in order to turn the tide
Speaker 9: against the Allies. They came up with a prototype, a
Speaker 9: fantastic ship that did fly, not faster than sound, but
Speaker 9: it did fly, and it mystified people who saw this
Speaker 9: strange aerial object in the skies. And then toward the
Speaker 9: end of the war, the scientists who were involved in this,
Speaker 9: which I had the privilege of meeting in Germany some
Speaker 9: years ago, they said, we decided to take the whole thing,
Speaker 9: the Golden Goose, the eggs, the prototypes and everything, and
Speaker 9: by special arrangement with the Yubo commander went down where
Speaker 9: into South America, especially Argentina, and that's why they escaped.
Speaker 9: Another possibility is that these are instruments and people who
Speaker 9: have mastered into dimensional flight, and we're going to couple
Speaker 9: that with the next possibility into dimensional flight, which is
Speaker 9: not impossible today, and also time travel. These are theories
Speaker 9: that have also been postulated by investigators of the United
Speaker 9: States Air Force. And then another possibility is that they're
Speaker 9: coming from the inner Earth. In Earth. Come on, now,
Speaker 9: my friends, I think I have some slides today that'll
Speaker 9: show the opening at the South Pole. And if you
Speaker 9: think that there's no civilization on the inside of this planet,
Speaker 9: you're very mistaken. The Earth is hollow. There are civilizations
Speaker 9: upon civilizations on the inside of this planet. Some come
Speaker 9: from out of space, some are remnants' descendants from the
Speaker 9: Great Flood of Noah. If we have time, we'll go
Speaker 9: into that, because we're going to be talking about the
Speaker 9: giants in the land today. And then the final possibility
Speaker 9: is that they're from out of space. Now, how many
Speaker 9: of you in this audience believe that we are not
Speaker 9: alone in the universe? Okay? How many of you believe
Speaker 9: that if people are from out of space they will
Speaker 9: look like us? Now, I'm going to ask you another
Speaker 9: few questions. How much? And look at me. Don't look around,
Speaker 9: I said, don't look around. If they come from out
Speaker 9: of space and they look like us, how many of
Speaker 9: you think that there could be some of them in
Speaker 9: this audience today? I told you not to look around.
Speaker 9: It's amazing. Before you discuss the possibility of people from
Speaker 9: out of space, you've got to be very careful to
Speaker 9: whom you speak. And I was in the hotel in
Speaker 9: Des Moines, Iowa, after a UFO conference. The conference was over,
Speaker 9: the convention was all finished. We were walking into the
Speaker 9: coffee shop. My then time wife met some people who
Speaker 9: she recognized. And you know how ladies are, They love
Speaker 9: to stand and talk. I said, I'll see you late.
Speaker 9: I'll be in the coffee shop. And I walked into
Speaker 9: the coffee shop, sat down at the counter, minding my
Speaker 9: own business. How many of you know what trouble you
Speaker 9: can get to minding your own business. And this waitress
Speaker 9: comes from clear across the other end of the restaurant.
Speaker 9: She says, he he ha, ha ha. Are you the
Speaker 9: flying source of preacher? What am I going to say?
Speaker 9: I said yes, And as she drew closer, she said,
Speaker 9: did you see any little green man in there? I
Speaker 9: said no, not one showed up. And as she came
Speaker 9: and sat directly stood right in front of the seat
Speaker 9: where I was sitting at the counter, she plunked down
Speaker 9: the glass of water and I looked at her and
Speaker 9: I said, there are two of us, And her lower
Speaker 9: lip began to quiver, and she stooped over to examine
Speaker 9: the empty seat next to me, and I said, my
Speaker 9: wife will be in in just a moment. She grabbed
Speaker 9: her chest. Do you know they had to send her
Speaker 9: home in a taxicab?
Speaker 11: And that it is time that world governments officially ignowed,
Speaker 11: So be.
Speaker 9: Very careful to whom you speak concerning UFOs, because I
Speaker 9: may not quite understand, all right, if they're from out
Speaker 9: of space, where are they possibly from? The information that
Speaker 9: I've been given by command of Valiant thor from the
Speaker 9: interior of the planet Venus, is that practically every planet
Speaker 9: in our system and other systems are populated with people
Speaker 9: from other worlds. Only the majority of them live on
Speaker 9: the interior of the planet. Now, my research up until
Speaker 9: nineteen fifty nine was confined to the nuts and bolts
Speaker 9: of the UFOs, and then I had an experience that
Speaker 9: changed my life forever. As a minister, as a pastor
Speaker 9: of a church at that time and full time evangelist,
Speaker 9: I would go from church to church and I would
Speaker 9: show pictures of UFOs on the board. These were black
Speaker 9: and white pictures, very few in color, and I'd be
Speaker 9: able to explain to the audience, thus and so on
Speaker 9: does and so time date, place witnesses names. Receive a
Speaker 9: telephone call at my home in Irvington, New Jersey, a
Speaker 9: call from a former Air Force photographer by the name
Speaker 9: of August C. Roberts, and Algie gets on the phone
Speaker 9: and he said doctor, Frank, guess what? I said? What
Speaker 9: he said, I met a man from another planet? I said, smoke?
Speaker 9: What have you been smoking? He said, you want to
Speaker 9: hear this? And all I said, yes, please, please? Where
Speaker 9: did you see him? He said, Not only did I
Speaker 9: see him? I took his picture. I said, fine, what
Speaker 9: makes you think he's from out of space? And where
Speaker 9: was this? He said? At the lawn UFO lecture at
Speaker 9: the home of Howard Meinger in Highbridge, New Jersey. I said,
Speaker 9: that's interesting. What makes you think he's from out of space? Well,
Speaker 9: he said Frank, When he looked at me, I got
Speaker 9: the distinct impression he could look straight through me. I said,
Speaker 9: my father does that to me? Now? He said, come on, now,
Speaker 9: you want to hear this. I'm sorry, go ahead. What
Speaker 9: else he said? Well, the man could speak every known
Speaker 9: language and dialect on the I said, the earth. He said.
Speaker 9: There were people at that convention from foreign countries, and
Speaker 9: he could speak to them, including to some people from Africa.
Speaker 9: He spoke in their dialect. I said, well, that's interesting.
Speaker 9: I said, What else? He said? The guy had no fingerprints.
Speaker 9: Oh that interested me. As a former special investigator, I
Speaker 9: know the science of fingerprinting. Everybody has fingerprints. He said
Speaker 9: his tips of his fingers were bald as a boiled egg.
Speaker 9: I said, is that right? That interested me? I said,
Speaker 9: oh right, I'll take the pictures. I'll put him on
Speaker 9: the board at the universities, colleges and churches that I
Speaker 9: address on the subject, and I'll say this is what
Speaker 9: Augi Roberts said, which I did. I was invited to Washington,
Speaker 9: d C. To a church passes by doctor John Mears,
Speaker 9: congregation of about two thousand people. I put the pictures
Speaker 9: of this man I didn't know his name on the
Speaker 9: board and told people, this is the picture of the
Speaker 9: man who claims to be from another planet. And the
Speaker 9: picture was taken by Augie Roberts, an Air Force photographer.
Speaker 9: And all I know about him is what I'm telling
Speaker 9: you today. He stands about six foot tall, weighs about
Speaker 9: one hundred and eighty pounds one hundred and eighty five pounds,
Speaker 9: and this is what he looked like, like a normal
Speaker 9: human being. And I had this picture up on the board.
Speaker 9: At the end of my presentation, I was signing autographs
Speaker 9: to my first books, which is called Sorcerama, and people
Speaker 9: were coming along the platform, and I was just signing
Speaker 9: and signing and the lady comes to the platform and
Speaker 9: they teach you in seminary, you've got to be nice
Speaker 9: to the ladies, especially in church. And she says to me,
Speaker 9: doctor strange. I said, strangers. She said, I've got to
Speaker 9: see you alone. Oh boy, I said, ma'am, you know,
Speaker 9: can you wait just and I got a couple of
Speaker 9: hundred more books to sign here, I've got to see
Speaker 9: you now. And she was irritated at me, and she
Speaker 9: straightened up and reached into her purse and she produced
Speaker 9: out of her purse an ID card that said United
Speaker 9: States Government something similar to this, United States Government Pentagon,
Speaker 9: building departments so and so, room number so and so.
Speaker 9: The other side was her photograph with a number beneath
Speaker 9: her photograph. I was converted immediately. I asked the pastor
Speaker 9: to borrow his key front to his office. This lady
Speaker 9: wanted to talk to me. He said, yeah, okay, and
Speaker 9: he gives me the key. As we started to leave
Speaker 9: the platform, we passed the photograph of this stranger from
Speaker 9: another planet and she points to him. She said, how
Speaker 9: would you like to meet him personally? But what would
Speaker 9: you say? My father in heaven, I said, of course,
Speaker 9: where is he? She said at the Pentagon. I said, oh,
Speaker 9: my father, if the government was going to pull a
Speaker 9: past a fast one on frank strangers, that would be
Speaker 9: the place to do it. At the Pentagon. Well walked
Speaker 9: into the pastor's office. She pointed her finger. I don't
Speaker 9: know why they was point their finger at my nose.
Speaker 9: She said, ten years before a special investigator still follow instructions.
Speaker 9: I said, yes, ma'am, she said to the letter, Yes ma'am.
Speaker 9: She said, you meet me downstairs in front of your
Speaker 9: hotel at eight o'clock shop tomorrow morning, and I'll take
Speaker 9: you to where he is. I said, at the Pedagon.
Speaker 9: She said, mm hmm. Her name was Nancy Warren. I
Speaker 9: didn't get much sleep last night. When I talked to
Speaker 9: my parents, I didn't tell them about that on the
Speaker 9: phone eight o'clock tomorrow. The following morning, I was down
Speaker 9: there on the cold sidewalk. I was on there at
Speaker 9: seven thirty and it was cold that December started to snow.
Speaker 9: And here her car pulls up. She opens the door,
Speaker 9: said good morning, brother. I said, good morning. Got in
Speaker 9: the car. She started driving toward the Pentagon. If you're
Speaker 9: familiar with the Pentagon traffic. The flow of traffic goes
Speaker 9: to the left and then to the right. She turns
Speaker 9: to the left abruptly pulls up against the fence. There
Speaker 9: was a security guard there with a tablet. He looked
Speaker 9: at her. He went like that. He looked at me.
Speaker 9: He went like it. Naturally, I went right back to him,
Speaker 9: got out of the car, fastened my coach. She reaching
Speaker 9: her person, took out her id, opened her little coat
Speaker 9: and shut jacket and she pinned her ID on her blouse.
Speaker 9: As we got in line, people from the military, people
Speaker 9: in plane clothes, all in one line, and a guard
Speaker 9: who is getting taller and taller as closer they got
Speaker 9: to him and I said, Nancy, I don't have any
Speaker 9: idea on my shirt or anyplace off. She said, just
Speaker 9: do what I do. I said, what are you going
Speaker 9: to do? She said, get back in line, will you,
Speaker 9: which I did, and she walked in front of the
Speaker 9: security guard and she opened her jacket like this, and
Speaker 9: then walk right on by him. And that put me
Speaker 9: first in line, and behind me was a military man
Speaker 9: and I hesitated. He cleared his throat. What did I do?
Speaker 9: I walked by the security guard wasn't like that, expecting
Speaker 9: to be grabbed by the next wise guy. What are
Speaker 9: you trying to do here? Nothing happened. I caught up
Speaker 9: with Nancy. She said, fine, that was very good. She said,
Speaker 9: we have one more. I said one more? What she said,
Speaker 9: one more security guard? That's sure? Nothing other lineup another
Speaker 9: security guard. I was third in line. I kept looking
Speaker 9: at my empty pocket. I was second in line. Then
Speaker 9: I was first in line. She walked in front of me,
Speaker 9: opened her jacket, walked on by. I didn't even look
Speaker 9: at his face. I just went like that and walked
Speaker 9: on by. He never stopped me. Walked down the car door,
Speaker 9: turned to the right at the very corner office that
Speaker 9: was the office part of the building that was demolished
Speaker 9: because of that plane crash some years ago. And here
Speaker 9: is an office door, no number, no description. She said,
Speaker 9: he's in there. I said, well, thank you very much.
Speaker 9: I had my hand on the doorknob. As she started
Speaker 9: to walk away. I suddenly spun around and said to her,
Speaker 9: how do I get out of here? She said, oh boy,
Speaker 9: my god, Yes, I'm investigator. She said, do the same
Speaker 9: thing is when you came in. Open your jacket, but
Speaker 9: make sure you get behind someone. I said, okay, and
Speaker 9: it worked second time. Now him my hands on the doorknob.
Speaker 9: I opened the door slowly straight in front of me,
Speaker 9: two flat desks, two flat top desks, two Air Force officers.
Speaker 9: Riding in the far corner. To the right was a
Speaker 9: sergeant Air Force sergeant here was busy typing. I cleared
Speaker 9: my throat two or three times. They paid me no
Speaker 9: mind whatsoever, paid no attention. I opened the door behind me,
Speaker 9: shut it again. They didn't know I was there. And
Speaker 9: then my attention was distracted when I saw something moved
Speaker 9: to my right, behind me, and here is this man
Speaker 9: coming toward me, six foot tall, about one hundred and
Speaker 9: eighty five pounds, soft wavy brown hair, brown eyes, with
Speaker 9: his hands stretched out. Whose picture I've been caring for
Speaker 9: several years around the world. Here's a man from another planet.
Speaker 9: He said, hello, Frank. How did he know my name?
Speaker 9: We had a marvelous half hour conversation. I'll show you
Speaker 9: his picture on the screen in a few moments. I said,
Speaker 9: where are you from? He said, I'm from your planet
Speaker 9: that your Bible calls the Morning and the evening Star.
Speaker 9: I said, Venus. He said, yes, the inside of Venus.
Speaker 9: I said, how did you get here? He said, I
Speaker 9: came in a saucer craft, which is called Victor One. Now,
Speaker 9: speaking of Victor one, I have a beautiful painting, a
Speaker 9: big poster of Victor one that I want every one
Speaker 9: of you to take a look at when you go
Speaker 9: to my table. And there's another big chart which is
Speaker 9: the starship, which is presently one hundred miles in a
Speaker 9: fixed orbit. I want you to take one of those
Speaker 9: either one of those free of charge. Now, what do
Speaker 9: you think about that? As long as they last? Take them,
Speaker 9: as long as they last. Okay, Now, I said, what
Speaker 9: is your name? He said, command a valiant Thor. He said,
Speaker 9: you call me val I said, thank you. And how
Speaker 9: long have you been here? Three and a half years,
Speaker 9: this coming March sixteenth of nineteen sixty. And what have
Speaker 9: you been doing here? He said, I've been conversing with
Speaker 9: the President of the United States, Dwight the Eisenhower and
Speaker 9: mister Nixon, who I met personally some years afterward, and
Speaker 9: several members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He said,
Speaker 9: I brought a gift for them, and this gift was
Speaker 9: in my hands, and I looked into the eyes of
Speaker 9: mister Eisenhower. I said, this information will do away with sickness, disease,
Speaker 9: and even death in the United States, and then you
Speaker 9: can share it with other nations. Gave it to the President.
Speaker 9: President Eisenhower received this information. It took them over one
Speaker 9: year to get back to the commander. He was there,
Speaker 9: yest for three years at the Pentagon, and one year
Speaker 9: later the President came back, met with the Commander again
Speaker 9: with this information in his hands. Shaking his head. He said,
Speaker 9: I'm sorry, we cannot accept this information because it will
Speaker 9: ruin the economy of the United States. I said, in
Speaker 9: other words, that drug Trust would have to take the
Speaker 9: gas pipe, and he agreed, and I said, you've been
Speaker 9: at the Pentagon for three and a half years. He said, yes.
Speaker 9: I'm happy to announce today that you will see the
Speaker 9: entire story, plus more information that took He's at the
Speaker 9: Pentagon while Commando Val was there. Because this book has
Speaker 9: been scripted for a major motion picture, and we're hoping
Speaker 9: that he'll be shot next year. And guess who wants
Speaker 9: to play the lead, John Travoltas. So you pray that
Speaker 9: we get the budget all right and that'll go into
Speaker 9: a production by this time next year, the commander told
Speaker 9: me things that I never knew concerning my own private life.
Speaker 9: I had to check with my parents and grandparents and
Speaker 9: in order to check the validity of his statements, and
Speaker 9: they were all true. He told me things that we're
Speaker 9: going to come to pass in the United States, including
Speaker 9: two thousand and seven, he wrote a book called Outwitting Tomorrow.
Speaker 9: Outwitting Tomorrow is a fantastic treatise of lessons for people
Speaker 9: who want to know the whole truth. We got these
Speaker 9: out there at the book table too. It's called out
Speaker 9: Winning Tomorrow. Isn't that a title? Now? After the thirty
Speaker 9: minutes was up, I did my thing, went out. I
Speaker 9: was picked up by a friend of Nancy Warren and
Speaker 9: driven back to my hotel. Before I left the hotel
Speaker 9: that Monday morning, the pastor and his assistant were helping
Speaker 9: me get together my stuff for the airport. A knock
Speaker 9: came at the door. Two well dressed gentlemen, no smiles,
Speaker 9: all business, said to me, are you doctor Strange? I said, strangers,
Speaker 9: here we go again, and.
Speaker 11: That it is time that world governments officially ignowed.
Speaker 9: The marks were as follows, word for word, strangers, if
Speaker 9: you you your reputation. You will not repeat anything that
Speaker 9: took place with you on this pastor morning. I said,
Speaker 9: what are you talking about? Took place?
Speaker 8: Leave me?
Speaker 9: At that time I was not to tell anybody, but
Speaker 9: he said, I heard about people like this. I want
Speaker 9: to talk about picking your pocket? Where was I? The
Speaker 9: two guys identified themselves of Air Force Intelligence. They didn't
Speaker 9: look too intelligent, I'm sorry to say. At first I
Speaker 9: thought they were from the CIA. You know what that
Speaker 9: organization is. That that organization is, that's the Confusion and
Speaker 9: Action Group. But then then I thought there were FBI.
Speaker 9: That's a fraternal brother hood of battalions. There wasn't there either,
Speaker 9: So anyhow, I said, okay. I didn't say a worried
Speaker 9: about this experience to anyone that I wrote a book on.
Speaker 9: When I went back to Brooklyn, New York to be
Speaker 9: with my dad my mom. My dad greached me at
Speaker 9: the front door, and he was from Italy, so was mom.
Speaker 9: I lost both of them a few years ago, one
Speaker 9: at ninety four and one at ninety three. My dad
Speaker 9: looks at me, he said, oh, friend, come, I'm going
Speaker 9: to pray for you. First, do you come here with
Speaker 9: a flying of sausages? I didn't know how that sausage.
Speaker 9: And now you come with a man from another world. Mommy,
Speaker 9: I'm going to pray for you, and he did. He
Speaker 9: prayed for me. One day after the Commander said he'd
Speaker 9: meet me in one year. One year to the day,
Speaker 9: March sixteenth, at eight o'clock in the morning, a voice
Speaker 9: comes out of the back of my car and Beverly
Speaker 9: Hills are driving to have a meeting with an attorney.
Speaker 9: He said, hello, Frank, how are you. I nearly ran
Speaker 9: a red light. It was the commander. I said, why
Speaker 9: can't you just come in the front seat, which he
Speaker 9: did later, and we had wonderful fellowship and communion From
Speaker 9: that day to this day. I was invited to visit
Speaker 9: Victor One, that beautiful spacecraft of his, in a place
Speaker 9: called San Filippi down in Mexico, and my meeting on
Speaker 9: board that was at his invitation because he wanted me
Speaker 9: to come down to meet with him on board the craft,
Speaker 9: my first visit for a specific reason. Back up, three
Speaker 9: days my phone rings. A man on the telephone says,
Speaker 9: this is Robert Kennedy. I'd like to talk to you.
Speaker 9: I said, this is who, I said, youse some kind
Speaker 9: of wise guy. And then all of a sudden, I
Speaker 9: was convinced it was Robert Kennedy. He said, what is this,
Speaker 9: all this stuff about this guy from another planet? Is
Speaker 9: this real or is this a bunch of crap? I said, no,
Speaker 9: it's no crap. I'm sorry to tell you. I'm happy
Speaker 9: to tell you I mean And he said I want
Speaker 9: to see you. I said, fine, why don't you come
Speaker 9: right over to my office. I understand you're on the
Speaker 9: on the East coast. Come on and visit me. And
Speaker 9: he said okay, and he hung up. Three days two
Speaker 9: days later, this big black limousine, flanked by highway patrol
Speaker 9: officers pulls into my street. My neighbors looking through the curtains. Boy,
Speaker 9: they got frank Now, and who's in there but mister
Speaker 9: Kennedy and his aides. They came in, no handshake, no greeting,
Speaker 9: just cold can I don't think I've ever message a
Speaker 9: cold person. He said to me, all right, now, let's
Speaker 9: have the lowdown on this guy from I said, don't
Speaker 9: call him a guy. I said, his name is Commander
Speaker 9: Valiant Thor. He said, all right, I'd be that as
Speaker 9: it may. He said, I want to ask him two questions.
Speaker 9: I said, yes, continue. What are these questions may I ask?
Speaker 9: He said, I want to ask him number one, who
Speaker 9: the hell really killed my brother? And number two, I'm
Speaker 9: running for the presidency this year. What are my chances?
Speaker 9: I said, okay, will you write those questions down? You
Speaker 9: can write these questions. He said, I don't write. I
Speaker 9: don't write. I said, well, this conversation is closed, then,
Speaker 9: big shot, but he finally condescended, went into my office,
Speaker 9: wrote up the questions, gave me the envelope. He said,
Speaker 9: make sure he gets these now. I said, okay, no, goodbye,
Speaker 9: no drop dead, nothing. He just left. And then I
Speaker 9: was invited by the commander to meet him at the
Speaker 9: airport in San Diego. He met me with a car.
Speaker 9: We drove to San Philippi, way down south and south
Speaker 9: of Tijuana, and I saw the spacecraft sitting on the
Speaker 9: water as you'll see in the poster that you're going
Speaker 9: to receive today. I was taken by boat with the
Speaker 9: commander to the ship. I'm speaking as quickly as possible
Speaker 9: now about this, and here we are sitting in the ship.
Speaker 9: He said, now you go go through that room, take
Speaker 9: all your clothes off, your shoes, everything off. Walk through
Speaker 9: that outfit, and at the other end of the room,
Speaker 9: you'll be giving a white coverall and boots, very similar
Speaker 9: to the one I showed you with the Pentagon. The
Speaker 9: one he showed me at the Pentagon was all one piece.
Speaker 9: They ran his hand after putting the two pieces of
Speaker 9: garments together, ran his hand up to his neck. I
Speaker 9: could not find the opening. They just fused together. And
Speaker 9: then he said that the Pentagon. He said, this is
Speaker 9: the outfit that your government has been testing for quite
Speaker 9: a long time. He said. They gave it the acid test.
Speaker 9: The acid rolled off and cut a hole in the floor.
Speaker 9: They fired shots at it. No penetration whatsoever. They even
Speaker 9: tried the experimental laser at that time. He said it
Speaker 9: didn't even warm the service. Sometime later, after my book
Speaker 9: was published, Stranger with the Pentagon, I appeared on the
Speaker 9: Art Link Letter Show. And when I told about this garment,
Speaker 9: you have no idea how many calls I got from
Speaker 9: the garment industry in New York. So here we are
Speaker 9: on the ship. I'm introduced to the commander's wife. His
Speaker 9: name is Dina. His daughter's name is val Dina. Not
Speaker 9: a beautiful combination. And I met Vice Commander Don who
Speaker 9: comes to my office quite often. And this beautiful young
Speaker 9: lady teal, red haired, green eyes, beautiful complexion. And I'm
Speaker 9: sitting in this kind of a living room and exchanging
Speaker 9: conversation with them, very beautiful people, and they make you
Speaker 9: feel at home. And those of you, like some who
Speaker 9: belong to our organization, the National Investigations Committee, and those
Speaker 9: who attend our meeting, the Inner Circle, which some of
Speaker 9: you are here today, they have actually had the privilege
Speaker 9: of going on board Victor one and enjoying the pleasures
Speaker 9: of that ship, which is now parked at the edge
Speaker 9: of Lake Mead in Nevada. And here we are sitting
Speaker 9: in the living room and all of a sudden, I
Speaker 9: have to go to the bathroom. Well that was not
Speaker 9: too unusual, because I go to the bathroom once in
Speaker 9: a while. And then I'm wondering what's going to happen next,
Speaker 9: because I don't voice that I have to go to
Speaker 9: the bathroom. Vice command to your says doctor Frank, Go
Speaker 9: and stand in front of that door. There. It'll slide
Speaker 9: to one side, you know. And I did, and I
Speaker 9: run inside that beautifully appointed bathroom. The door slid shut
Speaker 9: behind me. I sat down. I took care of my business,
Speaker 9: and when I I was finished, I nearly had a seizure.
Speaker 9: I could not find any toilet paper. I said, oh
Speaker 9: my God. I prayed in English, I prayed in Italian, Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, Korean.
Speaker 9: I couldn't find it. Finally, in my mind I hear
Speaker 9: the voice of vice command to tell She says, Honey,
Speaker 9: do you see those three buttons? Steer right? I said yes.
Speaker 9: She said, press the top button first, the second one down.
Speaker 9: Pressed that, and then finally pressed the third one. Well
Speaker 9: before I pressed that, I didn't know whether I was
Speaker 9: going to be ejected and dipped in the ocean AWA,
Speaker 9: but I pressed it. I said, thank you Lord, and
Speaker 9: a blest of hot air. I thought I was going
Speaker 9: to go flying to the ceiling, and after that came down.
Speaker 9: I put the second month. That was about half speed,
Speaker 9: and by the time I got to the third button,
Speaker 9: I felt powdered and changed like a little baby. I
Speaker 9: got up, got into my coveralls again, walked out. The
Speaker 9: door shut behind me. I sat down. No one said
Speaker 9: a word. The Vice Commander Teel said, did everything come
Speaker 9: out all right? I said yes, yes, thank you, thank
Speaker 9: you very much well. We had fantastic information come from
Speaker 9: the Commander, which is in our monthly newsletter called the Spacely.
Speaker 9: We also had applications on my table. The space Spacely
Speaker 9: comes out once a month. He gives us information which
Speaker 9: we pass on to our membership. He gives them a
Speaker 9: personal message from months to month, and some people when
Speaker 9: they read the message, they say, how did he know that?
Speaker 9: But you'd be surprised what they know. Now. Before I
Speaker 9: leave this story, we're having an Inner Circle meeting on
Speaker 9: the third and fourth of next month of June at
Speaker 9: the Rio Hotel in Las Vegas. That'll be a twenty
Speaker 9: ninth meeting of the Inner Circle. I'm sorry to say
Speaker 9: the Inner Circle membership is not for everyone. Only those
Speaker 9: that are spiritually advanced to appreciate the spiritual teachings that
Speaker 9: are given by the Commander. If you're interested in that,
Speaker 9: take one of those brochures out there the information contact me.
Speaker 9: There still may be time for you to attend. Will
Speaker 9: someone come up and erase this white section please, because
Speaker 9: I'm going to go right into the slides With Robert Kennedy.
Speaker 9: The reason he invited me to the spacecraft was to
Speaker 9: see something awful. We were sitting in this living room.
Speaker 9: He said, please follow me. We went into a special
Speaker 9: room that had a wide screen that looked like a
Speaker 9: three D presentation. The lights came on. The scene was
Speaker 9: the back portion of the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles.
Speaker 9: Bobby Kennedy is walking along, Rosie Greer right behind him.
Speaker 9: Several hundreds of people packing in that room and suddenly
Speaker 9: shuts ring out. Bobby Kennedy went down. I looked at
Speaker 9: the commander. He had tears in the He said, I
Speaker 9: gave this man the information he wanted, but he didn't
Speaker 9: follow my advice. I told him, don't go anywhere near
Speaker 9: the election this year. Tried in four years and you'll
Speaker 9: probably win. But how many times have you known of
Speaker 9: people who you've given advice to and they don't take
Speaker 9: your advice and they have to suffer the consequences. And
Speaker 9: I'll say one more thing, Sir Hans Arhan is sitting
Speaker 9: in prison for something he didn't do. If you want
Speaker 9: to know who really shot him, you talk to me privately.
Speaker 9: I said to val who was responsible for the shooting
Speaker 9: of the President of the United States? He told he
Speaker 9: told whom was? I'm not allowed to say that in public.
Speaker 9: But I'll tell you privately if you ask me later.
Speaker 9: So that was a very sad incident that overshadowed my
Speaker 9: first visit to the beautiful victor Ie. Make sure you
Speaker 9: get yourself a copy of that outside all right quickly.
Speaker 9: Now this is the Andromeda Galaxy. Some months ago I
Speaker 9: was invited to one of our churches in San Juan,
Speaker 9: Puerto Rico. I was privileged to see the largest telescope
Speaker 9: in the world. I met with some city people and
Speaker 9: they said, we've been receiving strange signals from out of
Speaker 9: the Andromeda Galaxy for many years, but we, after deciphering them,
Speaker 9: were not allowed to give the information to the public.
Speaker 9: We were forbidden because we know who signs our checks.
Speaker 9: I said, that's fine, thank you very much. Here's the planet,
Speaker 9: what all right? Right down there is the Outrigger Hotel
Speaker 9: someplace around there. So this is as a scene from space.
Speaker 9: This is a picture taken in New Mexico by Paul
Speaker 9: Via some years ago. As this craft came closer to
Speaker 9: the ground, you can see it opened. The shell on
Speaker 9: top open, revealing a set of porthole porthole windows. There
Speaker 9: it is as it started leaving the area. This is
Speaker 9: on the right shoulder. This ufo up here on the
Speaker 9: right shoulder of this picture here, which is hanging at
Speaker 9: the Sistine Chapel in Rome. Unusual. This is a craft
Speaker 9: that came down in Australia some years ago, and oddly enough,
Speaker 9: about thirty days after all these sheep who ate the
Speaker 9: grass where the ship had landed died reasons unknown. This
Speaker 9: is upside down. Nevertheless, it was taken in Riverside, California.
Speaker 9: There it is again taken by doctor Daniel Fry. This
Speaker 9: is a close up of one of the famous pictures
Speaker 9: that was allegedly taken by who knows who who right
Speaker 9: Billy Myers. I have had experts look at some of
Speaker 9: these pictures in Japan the negatives, and the information we
Speaker 9: got back is that these pictures are absolutely one hundred
Speaker 9: percent true.
Speaker 11: And that it is time that world government's officially I knowed.
Speaker 9: Craft. Very seldom do you find UFOs that are photographed
Speaker 9: in formation or in pairs. There's another shot of the
Speaker 9: Billy Myers series, again two of them taken. Another one
Speaker 9: of very strange elongated time. Here's one at a distance
Speaker 9: close up. Do you think people would panic if they
Speaker 9: saw this? Some people would don't you agree, But none
Speaker 9: of you here today. I'm sure all right, I'm going
Speaker 9: to rush through these faults. Now we're going to go
Speaker 9: into Comoran. This is the area not too far from Jerusalem.
Speaker 9: It's called the Comron Mountain area where the Dead Sea
Speaker 9: scurolls were located. As the story goes, in nineteen forty seven,
Speaker 9: a young lad was chasing after his uncle's goats, and
Speaker 9: one of the goats got away, and he was going
Speaker 9: to catch hell unless he get brought old and goats
Speaker 9: home again. Nevertheless, he found large jars. This lad after
Speaker 9: throwing stones in an open cave, and something didn't sound right,
Speaker 9: so we climbed up there. He discovered the jars, and
Speaker 9: he pulled out the jars. And these are some of
Speaker 9: the fragments that are now laid out in the basement.
Speaker 9: In a secret compartment in the city of Jerusalem, they
Speaker 9: have found these Dead Sea scrolls. This is some of
Speaker 9: the community where they believe the scrolls were written in
Speaker 9: the Kumaran Mountains. These are some fragments. I'm showing you
Speaker 9: this for a purpose. They made one horrible mistake. They
Speaker 9: violated every law of scriptural interpretation and revelation. Instead of
Speaker 9: translating all the words that they found in the Dead
Speaker 9: Sea scrolls. You see the empty spaces, they filled them
Speaker 9: in with their own mind, with their own thinking, with
Speaker 9: what they thought they should say. That's a violation. These
Speaker 9: are some more of the caves. And this is one
Speaker 9: of the lessons that you're going to find in the
Speaker 9: book Outwitting tomorrow that the Commander says, you need to
Speaker 9: develop these five points of your star spiritual, mental, social, physical,
Speaker 9: and financials Before I go any further question, I don't
Speaker 9: want to embarrass anybody here today, but how many of you,
Speaker 9: be honest with me, are having financial difficulties. Let's see
Speaker 9: your hands? How much of the stand? Don't be a
Speaker 9: shamed stand because I'm going to pray a special prayer
Speaker 9: and you're rich people. You just pray with me, okay,
Speaker 9: lift your hand with me. Please. Now, when space people pray,
Speaker 9: they don't close their eyes, they don't put their head
Speaker 9: between the knees, and how they don't do that. They
Speaker 9: open their hands like such and they look up and
Speaker 9: they talk to Almighty God person to person. And that's
Speaker 9: what I'm going to do today, My loving Father, repeat
Speaker 9: that to me, my loving Father, I thank you because
Speaker 9: you are the alph and the Omega. I thank you
Speaker 9: that I'm in this convention today. I thank you that
Speaker 9: you promised that if I ask you, I will have
Speaker 9: good help and I will prosper. Therefore, I pray in
Speaker 9: the name of Almighty God, that you will open the
Speaker 9: windows of good health and financial blessings to me. Right now, Amen,
Speaker 9: Now turn to your neighbor and shake their hand and
Speaker 9: tell them I believe what I just prayed. Go ahead,
Speaker 9: doctor Michael, Doctor Michael, how much time do I have? God?
Speaker 9: Bless you my love? All right, quickly? Now I want
Speaker 9: to go down the facts figures, name states and places
Speaker 9: of the Dead Sea Scrolls, with your permission. Is that
Speaker 9: alright with you? Might as well I say yes, I'm
Speaker 9: going to do it any how. I love you all.
Speaker 9: You know that I wish I could take you all
Speaker 9: home with me. You sound too willing? All right? The
Speaker 9: Deadly Scrolls were first invented in the year of Our
Speaker 9: Lord nineteen forty seven. Right, all right. The Deadly Scrolls
Speaker 9: were first discovered in nineteen forty seven, the same year
Speaker 9: that Kenneth Arnold saw that UFO group over Mount Raineer.
Speaker 9: Remember that he called them flying sauces. He coined the
Speaker 9: phrase the commander on board Victor One took me into
Speaker 9: a room which is called the library. He provided me
Speaker 9: with large silver dollar shaped coins that had grooves in them.
Speaker 9: He said, put these in the compartment slot and you
Speaker 9: will see any phase of history, any phase whatsoever. I
Speaker 9: chose the Dead Sea Scrolls series. He gave me facts, vigas, names, dates,
Speaker 9: and places regarding the Dead Sea Scrolls that I'd never
Speaker 9: been released to the public. I'm sorry today. I only
Speaker 9: have five sets left of the trilogy on my desk,
Speaker 9: So the first five out there if you want to
Speaker 9: get them, you can. If you want to order them,
Speaker 9: take one of our order sheets from my table. We'll
Speaker 9: be very glad to send you the set. Now. When
Speaker 9: I produced these Dead Sea scroll trilage, eh, I did
Speaker 9: it again? What am I hitting here? That's all right.
Speaker 9: I receive a call from Jerusalem from Rabbi Talv tlv
Speaker 9: I don't hesitate to name names. He talks to me
Speaker 9: on the phone. He says, you're doctor Strange. He said,
Speaker 9: here we go again. Strangers. They called me worse. I said, yes,
Speaker 9: how can I help you? He said, this is Rabbi
Speaker 9: Talv and I'm in charge of the dead Sya scrolls.
Speaker 9: He said this all in one sentence, and you have
Speaker 9: no right to release the information you're about to release.
Speaker 9: I said, who said so? He said, I said so,
Speaker 9: And then he informed me of a bombshell that I
Speaker 9: was not aware of. He said, these are the sole
Speaker 9: property of an organization that you're well familiar with. I said,
Speaker 9: who might that be? He said the Rockefeller Foundation. I said,
Speaker 9: my friend, you are crazy. This information is going to
Speaker 9: be released because people need to know the truth, the
Speaker 9: whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So help me God.
Speaker 9: That got him teed off. He said, you have no
Speaker 9: right to disclose this information. It hasn't been cleared by us.
Speaker 9: I said, too bad. He said, where did you get this?
Speaker 9: I wasn't about to tell him. I got it from
Speaker 9: a man from Venus. He said, you should be put
Speaker 9: to death, and the person who gave these to you
Speaker 9: should be put to death. I hung up on him.
Speaker 9: Called me back. He said, now, listen, let's let's let's
Speaker 9: be honest with each other. I said, yes, it's about
Speaker 9: time you did. You and your people who are in
Speaker 9: charge of all this, He said, don't you realize if
Speaker 9: you release this information, it'll shake the foundation of organized religion,
Speaker 9: to which I said, thank you, Lord, and he hung
Speaker 9: up on me. The disease gross contains information concerning the
Speaker 9: works and teachings and words and blessings and warnings and
Speaker 9: prophecies of our Lord and Master Jesus Christ. It contains
Speaker 9: information that's not found in the sixty six books of
Speaker 9: the Sacred Cow version of the Bible, which I call
Speaker 9: the King James. Let me tell you something quickly about
Speaker 9: the King James Bible. The Bible which I call the
Speaker 9: King James. Let me tell you something quickly about the
Speaker 9: King James Bible. King James had a birthday coming up,
Speaker 9: and he had his translators working feverishly, almost around the
Speaker 9: clock to finish that volume called the King James Bible
Speaker 9: by his birthday, otherwise their heads would come on and
Speaker 9: the people who are advising these translators had the scissors
Speaker 9: and they were cutting up some of the sprolls saying
Speaker 9: that this information would not be good, would not be
Speaker 9: feasible because the people's mind are not capable of attaining
Speaker 9: the truth that's found therein which again I say, bull,
Speaker 9: I believe that people should have all the information available.
Speaker 9: It contains information about certain things that are going to
Speaker 9: be taking place in the last days of time of
Speaker 9: mankind on this planet. The Daisies Girls, which are in
Speaker 9: three parts number one, two, and three, capsulate information of
Speaker 9: how you, as an individual can help yourself. How many
Speaker 9: people are walking around the world today with their handout.
Speaker 9: They're looking for a hand out all the time, and
Speaker 9: then even when they receive, they want more without giving
Speaker 9: anything in return. I'm going to give you a revelation
Speaker 9: that's mentioned in the dead Sea Scrolls that may encourage
Speaker 9: many of you. You today are children of God? How
Speaker 9: many of peop believe that? Say? I, I further believe
Speaker 9: it's no accident that you came to this convention today.
Speaker 9: I don't believe in accidents. I believe everything is by
Speaker 9: divine order. Everything is in divine order, I mean everything.
Speaker 9: I believe you're going to see the day as those
Speaker 9: of you who stood on your feet a while ago.
Speaker 9: You're going to receive that healing that you need. According
Speaker 9: to the Deadly Scrolls, You're going to receive financial blessings
Speaker 9: far beyond that which you have ever anticipated. And if
Speaker 9: you read out winning tomorrow, you're going to find some
Speaker 9: things in that book that are also mentioned in the
Speaker 9: Dead Sea Scrolls, as prosperity and good health and longevity
Speaker 9: are concerned. I believe you're going to witness a time
Speaker 9: which is prophesied in the Book of Joel, which is
Speaker 9: enlarged upon in the Dead Sea Scrolls that in the
Speaker 9: Latter Times the Hebrew translation in the Last Days Aromaic translation,
Speaker 9: in the Times of the End, You're going to see
Speaker 9: a tremendous world wide spiritual awakening, not an awakening of religion.
Speaker 9: I'm sorry, We've got enough religion in the world today.
Speaker 9: But it's going to be an awakening of spiritual values.
Speaker 9: And those of you who are in this audience today,
Speaker 9: I'm happy to say, are going to be among those
Speaker 9: who will be called masters and teachers. You know something
Speaker 9: is coming to me right now. Do you mind if
Speaker 9: I stop for a moment. There are some people in
Speaker 9: this audience that have stomach trouble. I want you to
Speaker 9: stand to your feet. Come forward. If you don't mind,
Speaker 9: come forward. There's just you and me here today, that's all.
Speaker 9: If you're suffering, I just feel impressed to help you
Speaker 9: get rid of that stomach condition. And I've got to
Speaker 9: do what the spirit tells me to do. Is that
Speaker 9: all right? There's at least three more people, which there's
Speaker 9: one two they are Come ahead, mine my mind. What
Speaker 9: have you people been eating? Doctor Michael, would you come
Speaker 9: stand with me? Bring your beautiful princess. Also, of course,
Speaker 9: the scripture teaches me two and three are gathered together
Speaker 9: in His name as touching anything, it shall be done.
Speaker 9: Do you believe that's a I all right, stand with
Speaker 9: me and believe with me. Raise your right hands, read
Speaker 9: your both hands. Repeat that to me. Heavenly Father, I
Speaker 9: thank you this moment for divine healing, healing in my stomach.
Speaker 9: Rebuke the affliction, take it from me, and may I
Speaker 9: never suffer this affliction again. In the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
Speaker 9: I'll shake hands with your neighbor to tell them God
Speaker 9: bless you. I believe to you. Go ahead, bless you, Michael.
Speaker 9: All right, now in the dease scroves, you're going to
Speaker 9: find secrets of life, all these things that have been
Speaker 9: revealed to the authorities in Jerusalem, which they have never
Speaker 9: released to the public because God knows what their reasons are.
Speaker 9: But basically speaking, they lack. Some other religious organizations that
Speaker 9: like to withhold the truth from their people, because if
Speaker 9: they tell them the whole truth, they're afraid of losing power.
Speaker 9: And that's their secret of the whold of power and
Speaker 9: authority over people, and that way they cannot think for themselves.
Speaker 9: Let me tell you something quickly about my dad. I
Speaker 9: told you he's from Italy. He went to the store
Speaker 9: one day in Brooklyn, New York, to buy meat. He
Speaker 9: went in the meat market to buy bread. He went
Speaker 9: to the bakery to buy groceries. He went to the
Speaker 9: fruit store and he had three or four bundles he
Speaker 9: was carrying and on his way out the door.
Speaker 11: And that it is time that world government's officially ignowed.
Speaker 9: Stranger who said they post your daughter Nadala. Can I
Speaker 9: help you? Natalie call him his first name in Italian.
Speaker 9: My dad says, oh, sure, that's an iSER, and he
Speaker 9: helped them, took the packages. They got on the bus
Speaker 9: and the stranger says to my dad, have you heard
Speaker 9: from Frank lately? Dad says no. Who said, why did
Speaker 9: you go to school with him? No? The bus came
Speaker 9: to a stop. They got off the bus. They walked
Speaker 9: down Cypress Avenue to my mom and dad's corner home.
Speaker 9: As they approached the house. Their mom was standing beaming
Speaker 9: at the door, and all the time Dad knew he
Speaker 9: should have recognized this man, but he couldn't place him.
Speaker 9: Went into the doorway. Mom greeted this tall stranger. Dad said,
Speaker 9: this man was kind enough to help me with my packages.
Speaker 9: That did not not he even paid my bus fare.
Speaker 9: There's not wonderful. Praise God. It was wonderful. So they
Speaker 9: went into the house. The stranger put the packages down.
Speaker 9: Mom gave him a big hug. Dad gave him a
Speaker 9: big hug. Told them God bless you. See you again
Speaker 9: some time. He said, yeah, you probably will, and he
Speaker 9: turned around, walked down the stairs, down the street, and
Speaker 9: they watched him as he vanished, disappeared from sight. At
Speaker 9: that moment, my mom, God bless her. She said, that
Speaker 9: was the commander. Why didn't you know it? Dare says me,
Speaker 9: why don't you know it? And then after that Dad
Speaker 9: had a new respect for his son Frank in his
Speaker 9: experience with a man from another world. My friends, don't
Speaker 9: be surprised if by the time you arrived home or
Speaker 9: in transit, you meet someone from another world. You say,
Speaker 9: how will I know? Believe me when I said you
Speaker 9: will know. You will know. The Commander told me to
Speaker 9: inform you also that this entire convention has been beamed
Speaker 9: aboard Victor one and they're going to be playing it
Speaker 9: for their classes of their students who come. And they
Speaker 9: love to see how people in Hawaii act when they
Speaker 9: hear the truth. Isn't that marvelous? That marvelous? You'll have
Speaker 9: another minute. Vice Commander Teal is a character doctor Lee Nakimota,
Speaker 9: who's a one hundred and eighteen this past February. He
Speaker 9: bought a jet plane a few years ago, which I
Speaker 9: fly once in a while. She's got a heavy foot.
Speaker 9: How many of you like to speed? So you know
Speaker 9: you do? And she's speeding one hundred miles an hour
Speaker 9: down the Nevada Desert going toward Las Vegas, and this
Speaker 9: highway patrol man caught up with her. He was on
Speaker 9: a bike and a motorcycle, and he says to her,
Speaker 9: do you know how fast you were going? She said yes,
Speaker 9: about one hundred He said yes, And she says, incidentally,
Speaker 9: how is Marie, Marie his wife? Oh? He says, oh,
Speaker 9: she's fine. You know, I've seen her once in a while.
Speaker 9: And during the course of the conversation. The officer took
Speaker 9: out his book, in all that book and he's riding
Speaker 9: her a ticket speeding the offense number at the bottom
Speaker 9: where it says signature, he signs his name. He signs
Speaker 9: his name, tears it off, folds it up, puts it
Speaker 9: in his pocket, and says the nice commander teal bye bye.
Speaker 9: I have a good day. She says. I will you
Speaker 9: know all officers when they come home back to the
Speaker 9: office that night, back to the police station, that they
Speaker 9: take out their book and they look page after page.
Speaker 9: And I don't know what went through his mind when
Speaker 9: he saw her ticket with his signature Anna, But doctor
Speaker 9: Lee made the difference that the guy didn't have to
Speaker 9: pay the fine. This is what kind of a fun
Speaker 9: woman she is, and she's interested in especially the ladies
Speaker 9: to whom we come in contact with, because he said,
Speaker 9: the ladies today, they need encouragement. They need to know
Speaker 9: what their true position is in life, and they need
Speaker 9: to know that they should assume positions of leadership. That's
Speaker 9: why I'm sharing this with you today because I believe
Speaker 9: some of you are going to be the masters and
Speaker 9: the teachers that are going to lead people into pathways
Speaker 9: of righteousness, and pathways of health, pathways of prosperity and longevity,
Speaker 9: such they as they have never known before. The Commander
Speaker 9: also gave me information about mastership. I think we have about
Speaker 9: four of those tapes left on my table about mastership.
Speaker 9: This is a CD. You get yourself, one of those
Speaker 9: ladies and gentlemen. It has been such a tremendous pleasure
Speaker 9: for me to share this experience with you. I prayed
Speaker 9: God's Richard's blessing rest upon all of you. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Okay, Wow, holy fucking sermon, he's obviously a pastor. Oh obviously, well,
Speaker 2: get like three fucking alter callses he's trying to talk
Speaker 2: about aliens.
Speaker 3: Holy shit, eh.
Speaker 1: I mean that was no secret. But I think regardless
Speaker 1: of your flavor, right, whether you're religious or not, or
Speaker 1: you think that he's up there preaching prosperity, I get
Speaker 1: it that there's a there's a stink around that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. It doesn't necessarily mean that it should be disregarded,
Speaker 1: but you know, I don't know. I wanted to present
Speaker 1: this show in a way to where we could talk
Speaker 1: about the information of which of valiant thor and all
Speaker 1: this buzzed messages and especially hear it straight from the
Speaker 1: horse's mouth. Now, I don't know. I mean, you take
Speaker 1: it from what you will. I think that it's interesting.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and say that I absolutely
Speaker 1: believe it or absolutely disbelieve it. I'm just going to
Speaker 1: let it stir in the mind a little bit.
Speaker 2: With that, let's talk about this again, very very easy
Speaker 2: internet searches will poke a few holes in the valiant
Speaker 2: for conversation. Okay, And I'm not trying to debunk mister
Speaker 2: Pastorman there. He seems like he's a decent guy. You know,
Speaker 2: all these things. I cannot, for the life of me
Speaker 2: see the connections between the Dead Sea Scrolls and UFOs
Speaker 2: like that. He didn't even make that connection.
Speaker 1: He just kind of talked about UFOs and ufology and
Speaker 1: all these things and then boom, now let's talk about
Speaker 1: the Dead Sea scroll Like wait, all right, that was
Speaker 1: a weird segue, which of which there was none. But no,
Speaker 1: he was just saying that there were certain things that
Speaker 1: were taken out of the Dead Sea Scrolls, of which
Speaker 1: the Rockefeller supposedly doesn't believe. The humanity is ready to
Speaker 1: heat it.
Speaker 2: Okay, and we're gonna talk about that all right, let's
Speaker 2: just break it down from the top here, the nephew
Speaker 2: of Admiral Bird.
Speaker 1: I looked up during this episode.
Speaker 2: I looked up every single obituary, every single everything that
Speaker 2: I could about Admiral Bird and his family. Admiral Bird
Speaker 2: had two brothers. One of them became the Governor of Virginia.
Speaker 2: The other one, Thomas Bird, kind of fell off into obscurity.
Speaker 2: He was a captain of infantry during one of the
Speaker 2: World Wars. And there's no evidence to say that he
Speaker 2: had a son, or if he did, he's absolutely not
Speaker 2: named as you know, doctor, you know Harley Bird. The
Speaker 2: only source that I could find for doctor Harley Bird
Speaker 2: is in the forward of that book. He's basically a ghost.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that makes him fake. I'm saying that
Speaker 2: there would at least be some other kind of credentials
Speaker 2: to a guy with a moniker of doctor out there.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: The other thing that I have an issue with is
Speaker 2: the fact that the story from Harley Bird is that
Speaker 2: his uncle, not his great uncle. If we are to
Speaker 2: believe the story, is that his uncle at a very
Speaker 2: early entrusted him with all this information about his travels,
Speaker 2: not his son, not any of these other people, as
Speaker 2: from his private journal that the Indies incredible stories even
Speaker 2: came out after his death, and the whole story about
Speaker 2: his son being brought into the Naval Intelligence Group and
Speaker 2: all that would be when he was at the ripe
Speaker 2: old age of eighteen years old, which also makes no
Speaker 2: sense if you're following him with his naval career. He
Speaker 2: would have had to have gone to college first before
Speaker 2: he could ever get a commission. So right off the rip,
Speaker 2: there's no way he was eighteen years old with the
Speaker 2: Naval Intelligence Office as an officer.
Speaker 1: That the math just all math on that. Now moving
Speaker 1: forward Pentagon with our guy that we just heard from.
Speaker 1: This was during the Cold War.
Speaker 2: The Pentagon was built in nineteen forty one and was
Speaker 2: like actually like the big ceremony thing in nineteen forty three,
Speaker 2: the Cold War was going down. Right now, no one
Speaker 2: is walking into the Pentagon by flashing their jacket as
Speaker 2: if they have a badge and they really don't.
Speaker 1: And then the ladies like, well, just do it on.
Speaker 2: The way out, like no, that's how you get federal
Speaker 2: charges pour out on you. He also made mention of
Speaker 2: he saw the rubble of the building from where the
Speaker 2: plane had crashed a few years prior. The only time
Speaker 2: a plane has crashed into the Pentagon was on September eleventh,
Speaker 2: two thousand and one, allegedly. And I'm not even going
Speaker 2: into the conversation if it that was a plane or not.
Speaker 2: My point is no thing from the sky has ever
Speaker 2: hit the Pentagon. In the fifties, there was a crash
Speaker 2: at Reagan air Force or a Reagan Airport, which is
Speaker 2: right across the interstate from the Pentagon. And fine, there's that.
Speaker 2: It wasn't at the Pentagon. So that thing that he
Speaker 2: just said is completely you know wrong. Then talking about
Speaker 2: how yeah, they just brought him into a room because
Speaker 2: he was giving a talk once upon a time, and
Speaker 2: they were just like, I want you to meet that guy.
Speaker 2: He'd been taking pictures of those pictures he's talking about
Speaker 2: a valiant thor this clean cut guy with the brown
Speaker 2: hair and all of this. They're from about thirty different
Speaker 2: pictures that were taking of a bunch of young people
Speaker 2: at some outdoor event. And there is no information as
Speaker 2: to who these people are, where they are, any of
Speaker 2: the stuff.
Speaker 1: So I don't know exactly where these pictures materialize from,
Speaker 1: or if he was just doing some photo shoots for
Speaker 1: some young, well dressed people one day.
Speaker 2: But there's like a whole picture of them chilling in
Speaker 2: a like it looks like a field or a park
Speaker 2: or something outdoor. And the Valiant Thor guy is one
Speaker 2: of this group. And I'm not saying that these are
Speaker 2: alien people. I'm saying that, like he took pictures of
Speaker 2: things and then said that he was brought to the
Speaker 2: to the Pentagon to be kept at the Pentagon for
Speaker 2: three years. Is also kind of odd, but not the
Speaker 2: most crazy thing ever. But why wouldn't they have him
Speaker 2: at a secret Air Force base where they're doing all
Speaker 2: the testing on new you know, information, new technology and
Speaker 2: all these things. That also just does not make sense
Speaker 2: to me whatsoever. Now the whole Dead Sea Scrolls thing. Actually,
Speaker 2: before I even get to that, his book that he
Speaker 2: wrote made some crazy predictions about how two thousand and seven.
Speaker 3: Would be the beginning of the end of the world.
Speaker 2: I hate to break it to everybody, the predictions that
Speaker 2: were made in the book didn't happen, like at all.
Speaker 1: There are wild speculations that he made. And again he
Speaker 1: was talking about this, what was this year that this
Speaker 1: was recorded in the nineteen seventy. No, no, because he
Speaker 1: was talking about CDs, so it must have been towards
Speaker 1: the nineties, e.
Speaker 2: Eighties, late eighties, early nineties. Maybe in two thousand and
Speaker 2: seven was gonna be the year. It sounds very almost
Speaker 2: y two K fear mongering grifter to me. And then
Speaker 2: whenever you hear him preaching about the Prosperity Gospel and
Speaker 2: all of this, it's like, uh huh huh.
Speaker 3: Okay, but who knows, who knows?
Speaker 2: Who knows now about the Dead Sea Scrolls because he
Speaker 2: just knew so much about them. Let's let's share the
Speaker 2: scream real quick and talk about what we do know
Speaker 2: about the Dead Sea Scrolls.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is from when Wes Huff went on Joe Rogan.
Speaker 2: It's only three minutes long, and this is what we
Speaker 2: do know about the Dead Sea Scrolls. Not everything he
Speaker 2: said was wrong, but he was speaking as somebody who
Speaker 2: has heard of them one or two times but didn't
Speaker 2: really know much about them. He said they're in three parts.
Speaker 2: That is emphallically correct. But let's hear from the actual
Speaker 2: expert on this topic.
Speaker 3: Of the Bible or the stories in the Bible.
Speaker 1: Is it the Dead Sea Scrolls or their older versions.
Speaker 12: The Dead Sea Scrolls are the oldest of the Old Testament,
Speaker 12: so when they were discovered, I mean, so they were
Speaker 12: discovered nineteen forty six to nineteen fifty seven, and at
Speaker 12: that point during their discovery, they pushed back a lot
Speaker 12: of our previous oldest manuscripts a thousand years which was
Speaker 12: a big deal.
Speaker 3: How old are they are?
Speaker 12: There anywhere between the third century BC and the first
Speaker 12: century BC. So it's kind of tricky because the Dead
Speaker 12: Sea Scrolls are they're like a library that we refer to.
Speaker 12: So it's approximately nine hundred and seventy documents, but it's
Speaker 12: distributed out between ten thousand and eleven thousand fragments, so
Speaker 12: there's a lot going on there, right. So, and some
Speaker 12: of these, I mean are are so fragmentary that you
Speaker 12: look at them and it's like confetti because they're i
Speaker 12: mean three thousand years old, but not quite that.
Speaker 7: They're like two thousand plus years old.
Speaker 12: Animal skins too, right, well, all sorts of things, animal skins, papyri,
Speaker 12: and then some of them are actually done on copper.
Speaker 7: They're like inscribed in copper.
Speaker 9: Wow.
Speaker 12: Yeah, one of the coolest ones. Actually this relates because
Speaker 12: I know you're a Marco Allegro guy. The first time
Speaker 12: I was introduced to Marko Allegro was not his Sacred
Speaker 12: Mushroom and the cross stuff, but he published a book
Speaker 12: on what's called the Copper Scroll because part of the
Speaker 12: Dead Sea Scuroll fragments are is this inscribed document on copper,
Speaker 12: which is an ancient treasure map.
Speaker 1: Can you see it?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Online?
Speaker 7: Yeah, Jamie, pull up the hey the wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So it's in Hebrew and it is wild.
Speaker 12: So it has these sites where it says buried treasure
Speaker 12: is found, and there have been a number of guys
Speaker 12: who have tried to like look for it, and so.
Speaker 3: I would say, what the treasure is?
Speaker 1: Uh, you know what?
Speaker 12: Off the top of my head, I don't know. But
Speaker 12: look how languages I know, right, and so but but
Speaker 12: the Dead Sea squirrels, So it's like stuff like this.
Speaker 12: It's papyri, it's animal skins, and it's a number of
Speaker 12: different languages. So the vast majority of it in Hebrew,
Speaker 12: but there's also a lot in Aramaic, and then Greek
Speaker 12: and in Nabataean.
Speaker 7: So it's like a it's like.
Speaker 12: An umbrella term to just describe a whole bunch of literature.
Speaker 12: So a lot of it is biblical because it was
Speaker 12: written by this group out in the desert called the
Speaker 12: Essenes Cumran. So, but then other stuff of it is
Speaker 12: just you know, it's just Jewish literature of various stripes.
Speaker 12: That is, is were hidden in caves all around the
Speaker 12: Dead Sea.
Speaker 1: So the scrolls, as it were, aren't all biblical. Some
Speaker 1: of them is just accounting of the times. Yeah.
Speaker 12: Oh, Jamie looked at up sixty five tons of gold
Speaker 12: and twenty six of silver.
Speaker 1: Sixty five tons.
Speaker 5: That's a lot.
Speaker 3: That's a lot.
Speaker 1: How many Cuban links can you make out of that?
Speaker 7: You can see why someone would try to down boy. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 12: And and you know when when we're talking about the
Speaker 12: Dead Sea scrolls, like you have ones like the Great
Speaker 12: Isaiah Scroll, which is fully complete, like it's a it's
Speaker 12: a copy of the Book of Isaiah and it's a
Speaker 12: full complete scroll.
Speaker 2: Okay, So again they have translations and experts that have
Speaker 2: translated all of the Dead Sea scrolls. The Rockefeller system
Speaker 2: of fluptiflaws did not come in and section that off
Speaker 2: to prevent people from gaining that knowledge and wisdom.
Speaker 3: So just so we're all clear on that.
Speaker 2: How do we know that because there are experts who
Speaker 2: have the complete documents from the Dead Sea scrolls that
Speaker 2: have worked on not just West Up, there's entire teams
Speaker 2: that have dedicated decades to this.
Speaker 1: But even amost themselves aren't complete. They only got one
Speaker 1: complete thing of Isaiah, of which it was just saying.
Speaker 1: So how can you say that none of it was
Speaker 1: taken away? Whenever they don't even have the complete everything to.
Speaker 2: It, you would be able to tell somebody recently snipped
Speaker 2: it versus it deteriorating over time, like that's that's very
Speaker 2: easily discernible.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I mean again, that's we don't have it
Speaker 1: in front of us. We don't have any way of
Speaker 1: looking at it. We don't have any way of being
Speaker 1: able to confirm or deny that the alleged experts of anything,
Speaker 1: especially of anything of religious or spiritual nature, had been
Speaker 1: tampered with one way or another. We don't know how
Speaker 1: many hands it went through before it eventually got to
Speaker 1: the scholars. We don't know how many times it was
Speaker 1: looked at by the powers that be that said whether
Speaker 1: or not this was stuff that we could give out
Speaker 1: to the public, right, Like, is it crazy to is it.
Speaker 1: Is it honestly that crazy to believe that, like the
Speaker 1: rulers and powers that be would want nothing to do
Speaker 1: with this at all. Like that's where you're going with this.
Speaker 3: It has nothing to do with the rulers and powers
Speaker 3: that be.
Speaker 2: It was mostly biblical texts and then Hebrew literature, all
Speaker 2: of which we already have like the Book of Isah what.
Speaker 3: And like this is the first time somebody's found it.
Speaker 2: We already had it, like you know, all these other
Speaker 2: Hebrew literary sources. It's not like the Dead Sea Scrolls
Speaker 2: were the only copy of it.
Speaker 3: It's we have the complete edition in other places.
Speaker 2: This was just a thing to where they were able
Speaker 2: to carbon date back and be like, oh, this predates
Speaker 2: when we thought these were first written down and stuff
Speaker 2: by a bit.
Speaker 3: But it's not like this.
Speaker 2: Was some secret knowledge that no one had ever heard
Speaker 2: of before. That's my point. So to say that the
Speaker 2: Rockefellers found the Dead Sea Scrolls and were like, you
Speaker 2: can't release that, all of that info is already out
Speaker 2: for centuries. So it's not it's not a thing like that, But.
Speaker 1: We do accept that certain things were correct. Me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, I don't know what your opinion is on this.
Speaker 1: I and many others are of the opinion that the
Speaker 1: Bible has absolutely been tampered with one way or another,
Speaker 1: through through language or on purpose or whatever. Right like
Speaker 1: they're they're you look at the Ethiopian Bible has I
Speaker 1: think eighty two books. The King James version has sixty
Speaker 1: six books. You look at the Dead Sea Scrolls. There's
Speaker 1: stories in there that are supposedly from the apocrypha, right.
Speaker 2: Like, No, No, that's the Knagamati text. That's the apocrypha
Speaker 2: and the Gnostics and stuff. The Dead Sea Scrolls are
Speaker 2: a different thing.
Speaker 1: No, Nagamadi is not apocrypha. They have Gnostic texts within it.
Speaker 1: Nagamati is Gnostic, not apocrypha. Those are two different things.
Speaker 2: They don't have any apocryphal books within it. They don't
Speaker 2: have the Book of Enoch in the Nagamati.
Speaker 1: I thought that was a.
Speaker 3: Part of the collection. No, no, no, no, okay.
Speaker 1: So my point is the Dead Sea Scrolls didn't have
Speaker 1: anything that was new in groundbreaking.
Speaker 3: That's my point.
Speaker 2: So to say that it was being covered up is
Speaker 2: that that's ridiculous. That nowhere was anyone trying to cover
Speaker 2: up texts and literature that we already knew and had
Speaker 2: scholarly subjects on.
Speaker 1: Yet there are more books in there, oh.
Speaker 2: The Catholic Bible, than there is in the King James Bible.
Speaker 2: And I'm not here to debate on the number of books,
Speaker 2: but as far as like to your point, the Bible
Speaker 2: has been tampered with in some way.
Speaker 1: If we're talking about the removal.
Speaker 2: Of certain books, okay, and there's reasons for that, on
Speaker 2: which council you talk to.
Speaker 3: Very few passages.
Speaker 2: There's only a few that I can even think of
Speaker 2: to where it was removed and it doesn't actually take
Speaker 2: away anything, but I personally am of.
Speaker 3: The belief it should have been left alone.
Speaker 2: But fine, the language transference, We've talked about this too.
Speaker 2: Most of the changes are very subjectual, right, So like
Speaker 2: to say that there's one it says, Jesus knocks at
Speaker 2: the door, but you have to let him in. I'm paraphrasing,
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, just bear with me. Here in some
Speaker 2: country in Africa, even the thieves knock on the door.
Speaker 2: So they changed that from knocking at the door to
Speaker 2: even Jesus coughs at the door, because that's how they
Speaker 2: announce themselves whenever they walk up. Is they like coughing,
Speaker 2: like before they walk inside. So they're saying that Jesus
Speaker 2: coughs at the door. Now, is that they mistranslated? Why
Speaker 2: is Jesus coughing?
Speaker 9: Is he's sick?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, it's the context for the subject matter to which
Speaker 2: the audience will gain the most out of it.
Speaker 3: So like things like that. Fine, but we've even talked
Speaker 3: about this.
Speaker 2: If a glass is ninety eight percent full, would you
Speaker 2: consider that glass empty or full?
Speaker 1: My point is it's not neither. Really, if we're looking
Speaker 1: for absolute truth, ninety eight percent is never absolute. Would
Speaker 1: you agree with that?
Speaker 2: I would say that a gun that fires ninety eight
Speaker 2: percent of the time is a pretty decently firing weapon.
Speaker 1: It's not automatic. It's not the alpha and the omega, sir,
Speaker 1: because you would say alpha and omeg maybe, but you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't take that a with you. It's not the
Speaker 1: whole thing.
Speaker 2: It's not supposed to be the all encompassing start to
Speaker 2: finish story of everything. It's supposed to be the portion
Speaker 2: teach us what we need to know, right, And I
Speaker 2: do believe that, yes, some language transference has happened, and
Speaker 2: maybe some things were lost in context, but especially in
Speaker 2: the day and age we live now, we have Greek translations,
Speaker 2: we have Hebrew translations, we have Aramic translations. So like,
Speaker 2: even if somebody is questioning the true intent of these things,
Speaker 2: you can go back and just go look.
Speaker 1: But no, those are Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek translations. Most
Speaker 1: people don't speak those languages, so you have to rely
Speaker 1: on the people that were translating it into other languages
Speaker 1: at that point. Am I right?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 2: But you could it's a different languages and translate it yourself,
Speaker 2: and like you could tell from experts that do this,
Speaker 2: and like, Okay, they didn't throw their own flavor on it.
Speaker 3: Because nobody's gonna speak Hebrew anyway. I'm just gonna put
Speaker 3: this in.
Speaker 1: Like, there's a lot of fact checking that goes down
Speaker 1: on that, sure, but there's also different ways of how
Speaker 1: you would say something only understood by those specific languages.
Speaker 1: There's a certain dialect, you know that, I mean, there's
Speaker 1: certain dialect. I was married to a fucking Portuguese, a
Speaker 1: Brazilian woman who spokes Portuguese. There are some things that
Speaker 1: don't translate. There are some things that are funny to
Speaker 1: them that wouldn't be funny to us if translated exactly
Speaker 1: how it's supposed to. There are certain dialects within language
Speaker 1: that don't transfer over, and that's not going to be
Speaker 1: transferred directly into the language that we speak. No.
Speaker 2: No, there's like turns of phrases and things like that
Speaker 2: percent that don't transfer well from one language to another.
Speaker 2: So they try to do the best they can to
Speaker 2: give a comparative turn of phrase to make the point
Speaker 2: that is supposed to be made. And then you could
Speaker 2: go back and look at the original translation and look
Speaker 2: at the context, and look at your translation and look
Speaker 2: at the context it means to you, and it matches
Speaker 2: up like that's my point. And this has been proven
Speaker 2: time and time again. But neither here nor there. This
Speaker 2: guy's kind of hasn't been.
Speaker 1: Proven time and time again, or else there wouldn't be
Speaker 1: ten thousand different versions of the fucking Bible. There wouldn't
Speaker 1: be not ten thousand different versions, ten thousand different understandings
Speaker 1: of the Bible. If it's understood, it should be understood,
Speaker 1: Am I right? It's like anybody anybody that can look
Speaker 1: at a math equation, You're not gonna find a thousand
Speaker 1: different ways to break down that one said math equation
Speaker 1: to get ten thousand different ways to get the same
Speaker 1: exact answer. You're going to use one plus one will
Speaker 1: always equal to It's not one plus one minus one
Speaker 1: plus one. You know what I'm saying. You wouldn't jump
Speaker 1: through all those hoops. You would condense it down to
Speaker 1: the easiest version, and that's how you would get the ant.
Speaker 1: So it is not like that, none of them when
Speaker 1: they condense it down. We have people that argue, well,
Speaker 1: they took away all these other math problems to get
Speaker 1: to this condensed version.
Speaker 3: Why they just give us the condensed version.
Speaker 2: It's like, well, do you want the whole equation or
Speaker 2: do you want the condensed version.
Speaker 3: Both will give you the same answer. It's just more step.
Speaker 1: They give you the same answer there. So there's only
Speaker 1: one religion to Christianity, there should be Yes, that's what
Speaker 1: every every religion would say.
Speaker 2: There is Jesus. That's the only standard as far as
Speaker 2: Christianity is concerned. All the excess is just dogma and
Speaker 2: ritual that's thrown on by human beings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's different levels of interpreted of and even interpreting
Speaker 1: what Jesus was saying.
Speaker 2: Once again by people throwing on human understanding to a
Speaker 2: divine message.
Speaker 1: How do you but you're to rely on your own
Speaker 1: human understanding that your version is the most correct? Absolutely not,
Speaker 1: it says, do not rely on your own understanding. So
Speaker 1: how can you be so How can you be so
Speaker 1: sure that everybody else is wrong? It's not every I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that I'm the only one that's right. Just
Speaker 1: there's only one way to understand it, yet there are
Speaker 1: thousands of different ways to understand it.
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of people that are trying to understand
Speaker 2: the message of Jesus, but they're looking at it through
Speaker 2: different lenses. It's like using a filter on a camera,
Speaker 2: using the CPIA filter, you're using the black and white filter,
Speaker 2: You're using the Snapchat filter.
Speaker 3: Look, you're taking away from the fucking picture.
Speaker 11: Dude.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I don't know. I just wanted to bring it up.
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting. Hopefully everybody got a little
Speaker 1: something from this Valley and Thors story. Maybe it's bullshit,
Speaker 1: maybe it's real. My point is is that you can't
Speaker 1: look at every single alien UFO story out there and
Speaker 1: call them all bullshit and then say I believe in Aliens.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that math don't math to me, brother, No,
Speaker 1: not at all.
Speaker 2: And I'm not even saying that this dude's start to
Speaker 2: finish full of shit. I found a lot of flaws
Speaker 2: in his story, and again, this doesn't take away from
Speaker 2: the tree that we've talked about. I do believe that
Speaker 2: Eisenhower probably met up with aliens because we have found
Speaker 2: so many disclosed documents from Foyer requests that were talking
Speaker 2: about that took place where they guaranteed did make interface
Speaker 2: with some sort of extraterrestrial beings.
Speaker 3: I'm not denying that whatsoever.
Speaker 2: I'm saying that this guy is the only source for
Speaker 2: the information that has been given out.
Speaker 1: There's almost no way to.
Speaker 2: Fact check anything, and I think we can all acknowledge
Speaker 2: that that's some massive red flags on the play for
Speaker 2: any situation.
Speaker 1: Sure, but as we saw earlier on in the episode,
Speaker 1: there were two other people that spoke out about it,
Speaker 1: and they just so happened to get merked in the
Speaker 1: following weeks, so there is reason to not talk about it.
Speaker 2: They weren't speaking about this guy. They were speaking about
Speaker 2: the Eisenhower conversation. None of them are a valiant thor
Speaker 2: They were talking about the Grays that had the underground bases,
Speaker 2: and we're doing human splicing and human aductions.
Speaker 3: I'm way more.
Speaker 1: Inclined to believe the story of the two dead guys
Speaker 1: than the dude that was grifting on stage. That's just crazy.
Speaker 2: It's more crazy to you to believe that there's some
Speaker 2: alien that's trying to teach us enlightenment. That sounds more
Speaker 2: believable to you than aliens that came down here to
Speaker 2: make a deal for weapons and technology so they could
Speaker 2: do experiments.
Speaker 1: Yes, because there is proof of quote unquote aliens enlightened beings,
Speaker 1: spiritual masters, they of the that happening in the past.
Speaker 1: Why are they spiritual masters and ascended?
Speaker 3: Why when did that come up?
Speaker 2: Aliens do not mean that they are spiritually ascended masters.
Speaker 2: The two don't have to be connected, but there can
Speaker 2: be overlap.
Speaker 1: Why would there be, I don't know. Why do you
Speaker 1: believe in Jesus? Is that not a spiritual fucking master?
Speaker 9: Bro?
Speaker 3: No, not at all. That's not He's not a Seti
Speaker 3: or a guru. Dude.
Speaker 1: No, So you don't believe that. You don't believe that
Speaker 1: Buddha was ever a guy Jesus, But I don't think
Speaker 1: that he was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was an enlightened guy, but I don't think
Speaker 2: that he had some sort of divine message. Now, so
Speaker 2: there's never been any such thing as any kind of
Speaker 2: divine teacher, divine master at all.
Speaker 3: But why are aliens those things? Is my question?
Speaker 2: Why are the aliens here to teach us anything of spirituality?
Speaker 2: Why would they give a fuck? If they have the
Speaker 2: technology to transfer space to get to us, why the
Speaker 2: fuck would they be coming here to teach us something
Speaker 2: about spirituality or morality?
Speaker 1: Why do we train dogs not to piss in the
Speaker 1: fucking house, bro, Because I.
Speaker 3: Don't want to clean up their fucking piss. It's not
Speaker 3: to teach them how.
Speaker 1: To be a moral dog, exactly. They don't want to
Speaker 1: clean up our piss with the nukes and the explosions,
Speaker 1: and they want everybody to get along. I don't know
Speaker 1: how that's.
Speaker 2: So hard to believe because the dog lives in my house.
Speaker 2: Are you saying that we are living in the alien's planet.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that we absolutely would live within a solar
Speaker 1: system of possible dimensions that may send ripples throughout all
Speaker 1: of eternity.
Speaker 2: But again, we're talking about non interdimensional aliens. We're talking
Speaker 2: about ones that came to this Earth with the body's
Speaker 2: physical forms, right, and they could touch and talk and
Speaker 2: all that. We're not talking about like a seventh dimensional
Speaker 2: entity that comes down and like all these other things.
Speaker 1: We would also be able to do that.
Speaker 3: Though, would they?
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Because a third dimensional entity can't bring itself down to
Speaker 2: a one dimensional plane and have a conversation with a
Speaker 2: line segment. I disagree because and as I referenced before
Speaker 2: that I did a Meta Mysteries episode on red shift
Speaker 2: and blue shift, you would also agree that within I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe you wouldn't agree on this, but
Speaker 2: whenever would you agree that whenever you are praying that
Speaker 2: you are somewhat within God's presence?
Speaker 1: Okay, that's not a dimensional shift?
Speaker 2: Yes, I retiely God is in the third dimension with us,
Speaker 2: so like right now, we're in God's presence.
Speaker 1: Okay, I could get down with that. My point is
Speaker 1: is that maybe by I'm not even trying to get
Speaker 1: super woo woo right here, but I just got to
Speaker 1: get it out. If we are talking about interdimensional or interplanetary,
Speaker 1: intergalactic or whatever, maybe the three could all be the
Speaker 1: same thing in different variations. I'm not saying that this
Speaker 1: guy brought up the Dead Sea Scrolls to get people
Speaker 1: onto a religious common conversation, to completely detract from everything.
Speaker 2: He said in the beginning about an alien conversation. I
Speaker 2: think he did that on purpose. That's grifter mentality, that's
Speaker 2: that's the sleight of hand. I'm going to give you
Speaker 2: all this information about aliens and then we'll talk about Bible.
Speaker 2: What about the alien night's over here? We're talking Bible now,
Speaker 2: Like I think that that was actually a part of
Speaker 2: his planets.
Speaker 1: But if you believe that Christianity is the truth, if
Speaker 1: you believe nothing to do with aliens, hold on, why
Speaker 1: wouldn't it you just said, you've always said that Jesus
Speaker 1: had to leave to tend to people, not of this flock.
Speaker 3: What he meant the people in heaven.
Speaker 2: It might very well be the souls that died that
Speaker 2: he brought to heaven with him when he went up.
Speaker 2: I don't know Jesus what the Mormons have it right,
Speaker 2: and he came to talk to Native Americans.
Speaker 3: I don't believe so, But like, all right.
Speaker 1: So God and Jesus only care about humans on Earth,
Speaker 1: and not all the rest of all creation within all universes,
Speaker 1: in all galaxies.
Speaker 3: No, there's tons of hypotheticals on this.
Speaker 2: Is it possible that these other planets never had their
Speaker 2: fall from grace and they're still living in their utopian
Speaker 2: garden of Eden.
Speaker 3: Type of place.
Speaker 2: Is it possible that they wipe themselves out to such
Speaker 2: a genocidal degree that Jesus had to make an appearance there?
Speaker 3: Is it possible that.
Speaker 2: They present themselves in some other way? And maybe it
Speaker 2: wasn't God's son that he sent, but maybe other messagers
Speaker 2: and prophets that they actually listened to.
Speaker 3: You understand, the.
Speaker 2: Only reason why Jesus had to come down is because
Speaker 2: all the other messages God gave to the people they
Speaker 2: just didn't fucking listen to. He sent prophets, he sent messengers,
Speaker 2: he sent enlightened people, as you would say, and the
Speaker 2: people just consistently said, nah, fuck that, and then they
Speaker 2: killed them. So he was like, well, the only way
Speaker 2: these people are gonna get saved is if I do
Speaker 2: this thing. Is it possible that other planets might have
Speaker 2: listened to the wise people? I don't know, It's all
Speaker 2: these are all very big hypotheticals.
Speaker 1: I would I would absolutely subject to say, suffice to
Speaker 1: say that every single people, of every single race, of
Speaker 1: every single planet of every single galaxy, if given the
Speaker 1: same opportunity in the Garden of Eden, there would have
Speaker 1: every single time been somebody who was a little curious
Speaker 1: about what was on that other tree that shouldn't have
Speaker 1: been touched. And if that, I can go on and
Speaker 1: on and on about this whole Adam and Eves story,
Speaker 1: because that is the most fucked up story probably in
Speaker 1: history if you really think about it. Why Because you
Speaker 1: got the all knowing creator saying, yes, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you free will. I'm gonna give you two different choices.
Speaker 1: You can eat from this one. If you do that,
Speaker 1: then you're a good little boy and you'll be able
Speaker 1: to stay and eat. And if you eat from this
Speaker 1: other one, then you will be condemned to hell, and
Speaker 1: not only you, but every other person that ever exists
Speaker 1: after you. It will be original sin, and every single
Speaker 1: person will be condemned to sin.
Speaker 2: So, no matter what, So wouldn't that be crazy if
Speaker 2: they just like chose correctly, It's crazy. Like he gave
Speaker 2: them the two choices and they chose the wrong path.
Speaker 2: That was what's hard to believe about.
Speaker 1: This because you've chosen correctly on every single thing and
Speaker 1: in your life.
Speaker 3: That's no, I'm a sinner. I'm very open about that.
Speaker 1: You can't say free will and then condemn if you
Speaker 1: choose the wrong one. That's not how that works.
Speaker 2: That is absolutely how it works. You have free will
Speaker 2: right now to live your life and not commit crime.
Speaker 2: But if you choose with your free will to commit
Speaker 2: a crime, you'll go to jail.
Speaker 1: That I'm so confused here. That's a fucked up decision.
Speaker 3: Welcome to human existence, dude.
Speaker 1: No, anyway, So I just wanted to bring that up.
Speaker 1: We can get all philosophical all day on here, and
Speaker 1: we can.
Speaker 3: I don't know how this connects to aliens. Why did
Speaker 3: he do that?
Speaker 2: Why did he bring up biblical talking points and alter
Speaker 2: calls as he's trying to convince people of an alien
Speaker 2: that he met at the Pentagon? The two, like the
Speaker 2: Dead Sea scrolls, were not connected to your boy Thor
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 1: He because he asked Valian Thor said, all right, what
Speaker 1: do you want to read in this library? The guy said,
Speaker 1: if all of all the books that I could possibly
Speaker 1: ever have access to I want to see the Dead
Speaker 1: Sea scrolls. It was his decision. Valiant Thor didn't push
Speaker 1: that on him. That's what So he asked to see
Speaker 1: the Dead Sea scrolls, which are all okay, all right,
Speaker 1: because he believed that it was messed with. So that
Speaker 1: was the point. That was the whole point of that conversation.
Speaker 1: He's a fucking biblical guy. Of course he would be
Speaker 1: interested in something biblical.
Speaker 2: That's you know, he was trying hard to sell his book,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Which how many times have
Speaker 2: I even mentioned that about even pastors that like they'll
Speaker 2: do anything to sell their new book.
Speaker 3: I find this to be deplorable.
Speaker 2: Don't think that I'm just shitting on him because of
Speaker 2: some Enlightenment conversation. I have a serious problem with pastors
Speaker 2: that are doing anything they can to get rich.
Speaker 1: But you know, I actually have a problem with that
Speaker 1: sentiment as a matter of fact, because I think that
Speaker 1: there is a book, and there are let's just say,
Speaker 1: two thousand different ways of religions that are showing you
Speaker 1: how to look at said book.
Speaker 2: No one's getting rich off of selling Bibles. I'm talking
Speaker 2: about these people that write their own books and then
Speaker 2: throw a couple of verses in it and then call
Speaker 2: it a Christian book, and we'll go on these whole
Speaker 2: big speaking tours to pedal it in any where they can.
Speaker 1: It's like, bro, no one, I don't know. No one's
Speaker 1: getting rich off of selling Bibles.
Speaker 3: They shouldn't be.
Speaker 2: If anything, if you're going to make money off of it,
Speaker 2: you should be donating that to charity, if any if anything,
Speaker 2: I would think that would be the only way to
Speaker 2: do that. Yeah, the money it would take to like
Speaker 2: run the manufacturing facility to create them fine and paying
Speaker 2: the people that are working the machines level wage, Okay,
Speaker 2: I can understand that. But any excess you're making a
Speaker 2: profit from printing the Bible, yeah, that better be donated
Speaker 2: into the appropriate charity organizations and doing the Lord's work,
Speaker 2: not making anybody rich.
Speaker 1: That's going to assure you. People have gotten rich off
Speaker 1: of selling the Bible. The Bible is the most sold
Speaker 1: book in human history.
Speaker 3: And so they say that.
Speaker 1: So to say that nobody ever made money off of
Speaker 1: the most sold book in history is egregious.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I would hope that the people that
Speaker 2: are printing it are donating the profits to charity. And
Speaker 2: worthy causes to do the Lord's work. If they are
Speaker 2: stacking the deck and making themselves rich by printing the Bible, yo,
Speaker 2: they're gonna get their own justice in the end.
Speaker 3: I fuck all that.
Speaker 1: But there's my point is is that there are people
Speaker 1: that have conversations about the Bible and their interpretation of
Speaker 1: the Bible. I don't think that they should have to
Speaker 1: do that for free necessarily. Thing about Josh Monday, for example,
Speaker 1: we have him on twice a week for eight times
Speaker 1: a month. Do we ask him to do that for free? No?
Speaker 3: No, of course not. He's an affiliate of ours.
Speaker 2: Right, But he's talking about the Bible, so he could
Speaker 2: run whatever he wants in that program. If he decides
Speaker 2: to do a Bible study, then excellent. If he wants
Speaker 2: to talk about biblical flat earth, excellent. If he wants,
Speaker 2: we give him the slot because we love him as
Speaker 2: a person.
Speaker 9: Agreed.
Speaker 2: That's not the same as somebody who is making money
Speaker 2: off of the Word of God and being a grifter.
Speaker 3: There's a defined difference here.
Speaker 1: Bro you wouldn't call a flat earth or a grifter.
Speaker 1: Depends on the person.
Speaker 2: Some flat earthers are actually true blue believers, and some
Speaker 2: of them absolutely know it's bullshit, and they keep the
Speaker 2: story alive and going, and they're doing it to make
Speaker 2: money and grow their website and sell their pain inphlets,
Speaker 2: and like, yeah, there's a difference. There are some that
Speaker 2: are true believers and some that are grifters. I'm not
Speaker 2: calling Josh Monday a grifter by any means.
Speaker 1: I know that he believes what he believes, by the way,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to make a point.
Speaker 3: And I'm making a point too.
Speaker 2: There are pastors out there that truly believe in what
Speaker 2: they're doing and like they are doing the right thing
Speaker 2: for the right reasons, and there.
Speaker 3: Are pastors out there that are absolutely grifters.
Speaker 2: The two are happening at the same time, and they're
Speaker 2: both reading out of the same book.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair to say that anybody who
Speaker 1: preaches on prosperity is a grifter, because if that was
Speaker 1: the case, then that portion of the Bible would have
Speaker 1: never been put in there anyway.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no preaching on prosperity.
Speaker 2: I have no problem with being a prosperity gospel church.
Speaker 2: And every sermon you ever give ever is about prosperity.
Speaker 2: And then you could look at their tax lineups and
Speaker 2: see what they're actually doing with their money.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I do have a problem with that shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, I wasn't trying to necessarily turn this into
Speaker 1: a debunking episode, but I didn't. I just went there.
Speaker 1: I did want to include a message from Nicks people.
Speaker 1: Cab take with this at what you will, Bud. This
Speaker 1: is from Cab. He goes, there's a civilization on Venus,
Speaker 1: which is a non physical frequency to us. They are
Speaker 1: advanced enough to travel to our dimension, but not as
Speaker 1: advanced as Pleadians. Pleaadian souls have actually incarnated on incarnated
Speaker 1: on Venus as we incarnate on Earth. Valian Thor met
Speaker 1: with President Eisenhower and remained as an unofficial Pentagon advisor
Speaker 1: for three years. Eisenhower met several et groups, including Pleiadians,
Speaker 1: and Zada's JFK would soon meet and become close with
Speaker 1: the Pleadians, while Black Hats were aligned with the Zetas
Speaker 1: backed by Reptilians, which if you remember in the episode Yesterday,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, the Zeta Reticuli reminds me of
Speaker 1: the Reptilians. The Canadian channeler was saying this kind of
Speaker 1: backset up that the Zetas would be the Reptilians, but
Speaker 1: it says, uh, they say that Valiant Thor still comes
Speaker 1: and goes, but doesn't have a major role. He was
Speaker 1: linked to the original or tick or ortique O R
Speaker 1: I t Q, whatever that is who meets the NSA
Speaker 1: White Hats or like other galactics in history, like Elijah
Speaker 1: who advised humans but was known to be an extraterrestrial
Speaker 1: in quote sky God, Frank Strange's author of Stranger at
Speaker 1: the Pentagon provided accurate information about him. For the record,
Speaker 1: neither Vow nor Thor are Pleadian names. So just want
Speaker 1: to give a shout out to Electro Nick in regards
Speaker 1: to the Valiant Thor conversation. Take so even Cab says
Speaker 1: that valiant Thor is not Pleadian, which yeah, he never
Speaker 1: he never tried to say that he was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he claim to be a Venusian.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, right, right, So anyway, Valiant Thor,
Speaker 1: do you buy the story of Valiant Thor? Did he
Speaker 1: live inside of Venus and tried to come and save humanity?
Speaker 1: Did this have anything at all to do with the
Speaker 1: Greata Treaty? Are we talking about the same people. Is
Speaker 1: it a different story. Is your boy Frank Strange as
Speaker 1: a grifter? Is he telling the truth? Is he telling
Speaker 1: version of the truth. Do you think that he was
Speaker 1: hyping it up or watering it down? Do you think
Speaker 1: that he wanted to add his own little flair to
Speaker 1: be able to sell books. These are all very valid questions,
Speaker 1: but the fact remains that if you do believe in aliens,
Speaker 1: you have to be inclined to believe at least one story, right,
Speaker 1: and sometimes those stories tend to corroborate with other stories,
Speaker 1: which is why I wanted to bring this story up
Speaker 1: today about Valiant or the potential connection to the greata Treaty,
Speaker 1: and or maybe it was something that came after as
Speaker 1: a second chance effort, But just want to throw it
Speaker 1: out there. I mean, take with it what you want.
Speaker 1: A lot of it seems fantastical, as almost every alien
Speaker 1: story seems fantastical. I'll tell you what seems the most
Speaker 1: fantastical is that you're a human and you get to
Speaker 1: a fucking exist That's pretty damn fantastical already, So why
Speaker 1: not just take it a step up, up a notch
Speaker 1: a little bit. So let us know what you think
Speaker 1: about the valiant or I I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, a wise philosopher once said, you don't know
Speaker 1: what you don't know, So let's just keep that in mind.
Speaker 7: Shot.
Speaker 2: I know that guy called this to say, Man, I'm
Speaker 2: not saying that there has never been alien contact of
Speaker 2: some being that wants to give humans. If we're gonna
Speaker 2: use the term spiritual enlightenment, then fine, But maybe just
Speaker 2: teaching us a better way, right, a better way that
Speaker 2: is free from greed, free from warfare and all these things.
Speaker 2: Maybe they do come from a utopian planet and they
Speaker 2: want to try to instill some of those ethos into us.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's not the valiant thor think. Maybe it is.
Speaker 2: I don't know. But like we said, Eisenhower got put
Speaker 2: with two options at his feet, one of them for power,
Speaker 2: one of them for peace. He chose what I think
Speaker 2: a lot of people would choose. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe
Speaker 2: a lot of people would have chosen the peace route
Speaker 2: and handed over weapons and all of these things.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: But like we've said, there's a million different alien stories
Speaker 2: out there, a million different et disclosures that have happened,
Speaker 2: and they are still arguing to this day.
Speaker 3: Right now.
Speaker 2: If the UFO is that are going on in DC
Speaker 2: are accurate or not right, there's no one size fits
Speaker 2: all with any of these stories. But I did appreciate
Speaker 2: the Valiant Thor story. And next we're gonna be talking
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Speaker 2: gonna go into all of it.
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