WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.440 --> 00:00:04.200 Tonight we exit the fifth dimension to go to a 2 00:00:04.280 --> 00:00:08.679 completely different dimension. But before we talk about that, I 3 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:11.199 will begin by saying again if you are a new 4 00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:14.880 listener to the twilight Zone Podcast, the show is on 5 00:00:15.119 --> 00:00:18.640 hiatus at the moment for the summer while I prepare 6 00:00:18.679 --> 00:00:22.679 for Sailing Fest, which takes place in Binghamton, New York, 7 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:27.719 over the weekend of September thirteenth. So this isn't the 8 00:00:27.879 --> 00:00:31.800 usual format of the show, but to keep things ticking over, 9 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:35.159 I've put out a few episodes from the archives over 10 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:39.520 on my Patreon the after Hours Club at patreon dot 11 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:45.000 com slash twilight Zone Podcast. But tonight I'm not taking 12 00:00:45.079 --> 00:00:48.479 something from the archives, but I'm giving you a taste 13 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:52.320 of something that is brand new over there, coverage of 14 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:56.399 the show The Outer Limits. Now this isn't in my 15 00:00:56.600 --> 00:01:00.920 usual solo Twilight Zone podcast format. It's more of a 16 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:03.920 discussion show with me and my co host, Chris Clayton, 17 00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:07.040 and every month we'll be doing a double bill of 18 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:11.799 the original series of The Outer Limits. So tonight I'm 19 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:14.879 giving you half of that double bill. It wouldn't quite 20 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:17.680 be fair to the existing patrons to give away the 21 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:20.920 whole thing when it's only just been released, but I'm 22 00:01:20.959 --> 00:01:24.400 sure they won't mind this taste of going out. So 23 00:01:24.599 --> 00:01:28.120 this is our coverage of that first episode of The 24 00:01:28.159 --> 00:01:31.120 Outer Limits the Galaxy being. 25 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:41.519 There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not 26 00:01:41.599 --> 00:01:47.239 attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If 27 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:49.400 we wish to make it louder, we will bring up 28 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:53.439 the button. If we wish to make it softer, we 29 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:57.840 will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal, 30 00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:02.560 We will control the verdict. We can roll the image, 31 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:07.400 make it flutter. We can change the focus to a 32 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:11.960 soft blur, or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the 33 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:15.000 next hour, sit quietly, and we will control all the 34 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:18.840 juice in Here we repeat, there is nothing wrong with 35 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:22.639 your television sect. You are about to participate in a 36 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:26.919 great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and 37 00:02:27.120 --> 00:03:10.360 mystery which reaches from the inner mind to the outer limits. 38 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:17.240 Fifteen years ago, when I started the Twilight Zone podcast, 39 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:21.240 the first question that people would always ask me is 40 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:25.479 are you going to do the Outer Limits next? Now, 41 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:30.159 over a decade later, we finally are. But thankfully I'm 42 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:33.800 not going it alone. I have brought my good friend 43 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:40.280 and frequent collaborator mister Christopher Clayton. Chris, Welcome back, Hello there, 44 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:40.800 dear boy. 45 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:44.000 Wow, this is fantastic to do something that you'd originally 46 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:47.120 envision maybe doing someday. We're finally getting around to it. 47 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:50.439 This is something else to pack into your incredibly busy schedule, 48 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:51.599 but I'm really looking forward to it. 49 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:56.199 Well, the thing is, I've said this many times. When 50 00:03:56.240 --> 00:03:59.919 the Twilight Zone podcast starts, it was like three years 51 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:01.759 to take me three years to get through that, So 52 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:05.240 I might do the Outer Limit, sure, but now it's like, 53 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:08.520 there is no way I would do the Outer Limits 54 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:11.479 like I did the Twilight Zone podcast. Now, thankfully I 55 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:14.360 don't have to because, as we've said before, our good 56 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:18.959 friend Victor Gambaa started the Outer Limits podcast, so he's 57 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:24.079 got it covered. He's got that kind of trivia review 58 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:28.160 style of show covered. So thank you Victor. Now I 59 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:32.680 don't have to do it. But there are different ways 60 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:36.199 of covering the material, and I think while I wouldn't 61 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:39.000 want to do it in that way, I'm actually quite 62 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:44.360 excited to do it this way because it's you know, 63 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:46.680 we both did Night Gallery, but I think this is 64 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:49.360 a bit of a different thing for us, isn't it. 65 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:50.040 It really is. 66 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:50.319 Yeah. 67 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:52.759 I mean it's worth saying that Victor does really the 68 00:04:52.759 --> 00:04:56.519 definitive version of this, so he if you want the 69 00:04:56.639 --> 00:05:00.560 definitive look at these episodes in detail, that's what that is. 70 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:03.000 This is much more of a kind of review, just 71 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:05.199 a straight ahead review. Really, we're not going into all 72 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:08.240 the facts and figures of everything. But yeah, so we're 73 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:11.360 going back to material that is to some degree out 74 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:14.720 of my wheelhouse. Really, I think people who have listened 75 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:16.319 to the stuff that we've done together in the past 76 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:19.560 will know that I didn't watch The Twilight Zone really 77 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:21.680 other than a few episodes here and there the original 78 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:25.000 Twilight Zone, So I came in as a bit of 79 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:28.720 a Rod Sterling newbie in that regard. And going through 80 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:31.000 Night Gallery as we did as well, I got to 81 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:34.120 see a complete work that certainly had Rod Sturling's name 82 00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:37.240 in it, even if it didn't always have his you know, 83 00:05:37.279 --> 00:05:39.079 his go ahead in terms of some of the creative 84 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:42.839 ideas that were tried out there. So going into something 85 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:44.680 like this where we're going back to the era in 86 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:48.639 which the Twilight Zone was prospering in the sixties, we 87 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:50.680 are going into something that is a little bit out 88 00:05:50.680 --> 00:05:53.759 of my wheelhouse. But it's kind of exciting, I guess, 89 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:57.120 to go back to that era of television, of American 90 00:05:57.160 --> 00:06:01.160 television and see it through I think fresh eyes, not 91 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:03.839 only through my fresh eyes, but through yours as well. 92 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:07.040 I think what excites me about this one is that 93 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:11.399 we're more or less on an even footing on this one. 94 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:16.480 You know, obviously with Night Gallery, I knew rod sailing 95 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:19.240 and it's like, oh, this is like the Twilight Zone, 96 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:21.720 or oh we done something like this before, or oh 97 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:24.079 this is very rod sailing. And I think by the 98 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:27.160 end of it, you had picked up that, you know, 99 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:31.079 that instinct of what sailing was about and what sailing 100 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:35.000 dialogue sounded like, and you know, you picked that up 101 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:40.639 as you went. But I think with this, apart from 102 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:44.120 probably recognizing a lot of Twilight Zone actors, I mean, 103 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:47.480 there's at least three in this one, this first one, 104 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:51.519 we're kind of on an even keel because I'll briefly 105 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:53.680 tell you my history with the Outer Limits and then 106 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:57.800 I'll ask you yours. I really don't have any because 107 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:02.720 I bought the box set a long time ago, and 108 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:06.680 I always meant to get started, and I would watch 109 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:09.879 the first episode The Galaxy Being, and then I would 110 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:12.920 get sidetracked and not watch anymore. Then a couple of 111 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:15.160 years later I'd be like, oh, I'll get back to it, 112 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:19.800 watch the Galaxy Being again, and just never got round 113 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:23.240 to it. And as you know, sometimes when you're a podcaster, 114 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:26.759 all you tend to watch is what you're podcasting about. 115 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:29.879 So this is a great excuse to kind of get 116 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:33.439 through that. Now. I did actually watch the remake show 117 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:37.240 quite a bit, because that lasted for seven years, so 118 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:41.240 it was actually pretty successful and pretty well thought of. 119 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:44.360 I can't remember any of it, but I do remember 120 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:46.680 that I watched it. So that's my history with the 121 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:47.439 Outer Limits. 122 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:49.720 What about you, Well, that's where I can come in, 123 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:51.560 because yeah, I did watch some of the episodes of 124 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:54.560 the remake when it was on, so I remember seeing 125 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:58.000 I distinctly remember watching what, but I don't remember what 126 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:00.600 the episode was about. Unfortunately, that's how about memories are 127 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:04.000 collective memories. But I remember watching one. I think it 128 00:08:04.079 --> 00:08:09.439 was on like ITV or BBC two or something, but 129 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:11.879 it was on about midnight or something when I was 130 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:15.639 a much younger guy, and I remember watching one then 131 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:18.360 as well, So I'm a bit more I remember one 132 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:20.079 of the episodes I watched, I think had Peter Weller 133 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:24.519 in it. I think so, So yeah, I might be 134 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:26.759 wrong about that, but for some reason that sticks out 135 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:29.399 in my mind. So that's really all I had seen 136 00:08:29.639 --> 00:08:32.080 of anything to do with the Outer Limits. My understanding 137 00:08:32.200 --> 00:08:36.039 was that, yes, that remake series was really successful, certainly 138 00:08:36.080 --> 00:08:38.440 more than one series. It was seven seasons, like you say, 139 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:42.159 and they're planning to do a revival of it in 140 00:08:42.440 --> 00:08:46.000 the near future as well, so clearly it's got a 141 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:47.879 good sizeable fan base. 142 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:53.000 I think as well with the Outer Limits. I mean, 143 00:08:53.440 --> 00:08:56.399 I don't want to disrespect the creator of the Outer 144 00:08:56.519 --> 00:09:00.039 Limits or anything like that to say he wasn't of 145 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:03.759 road sailing stature. I'm sure he, you know, had his 146 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:07.600 own kind of stature. But I think it's always a 147 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:10.159 struggle to accept the Twilight Zone for a lot of 148 00:09:10.200 --> 00:09:14.679 people without road sailing, whereas I think it's a bit 149 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:19.080 easier to accept the Outer Limits. Maybe I could be 150 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:21.840 wrong on that. I don't know, but that's certainly the 151 00:09:21.840 --> 00:09:27.279 way it seems to me. But yeah, I'm looking forward 152 00:09:27.279 --> 00:09:33.279 to this. You know, I think that the general consensus 153 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:36.879 is that, you know, the Twilight Zone is it's all 154 00:09:36.919 --> 00:09:40.600 about the moral message, you know, the societal stuff and 155 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:43.759 all that, where the outer limit is a bit more 156 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:49.279 straight ahead sometimes a monster show. That's not to say 157 00:09:49.279 --> 00:09:52.080 there isn't kind of a message there. Sometimes we see 158 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:54.960 that tonight, but you know, a bit more of a 159 00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:56.440 straight ahead show if you like. 160 00:09:56.960 --> 00:09:59.320 There was something that I've read when I was looking 161 00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:01.120 at a little bit of of research on this. And 162 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:03.200 again we're not going to go too deep on this, 163 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:05.120 you know, if you want to see I want to 164 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:08.440 hear something rather that is is really definitive than Vicha 165 00:10:08.480 --> 00:10:11.759 Gamboa's show Our Limits podcast, I think is is really 166 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:13.639 what we need to be for that not listen to 167 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:16.440 us as well, but you know that that is worth 168 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:19.279 listening to. But I was reading that apparently, and it's 169 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:22.080 kind of remarkable really that in the sort of late 170 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:26.639 nineties Kevin Smith was offered a chance to remake this 171 00:10:27.559 --> 00:10:30.879 as a movie that would have been something Tom to 172 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:39.120 have seen. And then also the two guys who worked 173 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:43.080 on Dr Strange, Scott Dereckson and see Robert Cargill who 174 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:47.639 wrote and directed the Dr Strange movie for Marvel, the 175 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:52.799 the MCU one not the not the older. They were 176 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:54.600 offered a chance to maybe do a film we make 177 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:57.039 of it as well, so it's it certainly seems to 178 00:10:57.080 --> 00:11:00.320 have a bit of influence going forward, which I think 179 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:04.919 is really interesting. Now, this first season unbelievably has thirty 180 00:11:04.919 --> 00:11:08.039 two episodes in it's on, thirty two episodes in one season. 181 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:12.320 Wow, and an hour long as well. It's just insane. 182 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:16.919 Lot they were pumping out. I mean, look at Rang. 183 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:19.679 I mean, the the amount of content you've had to 184 00:11:19.679 --> 00:11:23.639 cover in the Twilight Zone is staggering, you know, And 185 00:11:23.919 --> 00:11:27.919 so they were pumping out TV. They were pumping out stories, 186 00:11:27.960 --> 00:11:30.240 and I suppose you have to give them credit for that, 187 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:32.960 you know that the whole idea of even you know, 188 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:35.639 we were discussing this privately a few weeks ago, the 189 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:37.879 idea of a show like a TV show like twenty four, 190 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:40.720 where you would do twenty four hour long episodes, it 191 00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:42.679 just doesn't really exist anymore, does it. 192 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:46.879 No? No, Wow, you know what, I didn't realize there's 193 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:49.360 that many. I think we might have to change. No, 194 00:11:49.840 --> 00:11:52.840 to be honest, there's only two seasons, so we're fine. 195 00:11:53.440 --> 00:11:58.600 But yeah, goodness, that many episodes of an hour long show. 196 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:01.720 It's insane. But should we get into it. 197 00:12:02.159 --> 00:12:04.200 Yeah, I think we should looking forward to this, So 198 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:07.360 why don't you get started, Tom telling us about our 199 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:11.080 first of our double bill here. It's the very first 200 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:13.480 episode indeed, of the Outer Limits, and it's called The 201 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:14.440 Galaxy Being. 202 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:18.879 That's right, it is the Galaxy Being. Be warned spoilers 203 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:23.639 ahead as always, but The Galaxy Being first broadcast sixteenth 204 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:28.360 of December nineteen sixty three, Written and directed by Leslie Stevens. 205 00:12:29.039 --> 00:12:34.159 Alan Maxwell, a cottage industry inventor, constructs a powerful transceiving 206 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:39.759 device near his commercial radio station. Through it, he intercepts 207 00:12:39.799 --> 00:12:43.759 three dimensional static, revealing an image of an alien from 208 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:49.000 the Andromeda galaxy. Using a translating computer, Alan Lane's at 209 00:12:49.039 --> 00:12:53.360 the being shares his tinkering spirit. They exchange ideas briefly 210 00:12:53.720 --> 00:12:58.240 before Alan's social commitment interrupts. A mishap at the radio 211 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:03.639 station teleports the alien to Earth. Its radioactive aura causes chaos. 212 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:08.799 It kills a dj, fries the caretaker, and seeks Alan's help. 213 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:12.960 Alan eventually guides the creature back to his transmission shack, 214 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:18.440 but authorities are already involved. When a sheriff accidentally shoots 215 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:23.200 Alan's wife, the being heals her with radiation facing its 216 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:27.360 would be destroyers. The alien warns the crowd there are 217 00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:32.559 powers in the universe beyond your knowledge. Explore reach out. 218 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:36.399 It reveals its violation of a law against contact with 219 00:13:36.919 --> 00:13:42.120 destructive societies, and it must leave, unable to retain home. 220 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:48.279 In the workshop, it declares end of transmission, fading away 221 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:50.840 by lowering the transmitter power. 222 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:55.480 Do you see me very dim? 223 00:13:56.440 --> 00:14:03.279 You are in the role of electronic room. Do not 224 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:11.639 increase your power. Galax sefl bit contact of planets beyond 225 00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:13.519 central system. 226 00:14:14.440 --> 00:14:18.879 We're both breaking the rules. I'm not allowed to use 227 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:23.480 the station for research. I am not allowed to use. 228 00:14:23.399 --> 00:14:26.360 Equipment for exploration. 229 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:30.559 Do you have a name? 230 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:40.759 Numbers not same as your four mentioned numbers? Answer question? 231 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:45.279 What is below eyes? 232 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:46.600 Oh? 233 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:50.559 Eyes alls in space? 234 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:56.919 No, so, Chris, these are long episodes, so we're not 235 00:14:56.960 --> 00:14:59.120 going to step through the story bit by bit. We're 236 00:14:59.159 --> 00:15:01.519 just going to kind of talk around and you know, 237 00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:04.799 dig into a few things here and there. So the 238 00:15:04.799 --> 00:15:06.600 galaxy being first time for. 239 00:15:06.600 --> 00:15:10.559 You, absolutely, Yeah. I had never seen this before, and 240 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:13.000 a very interesting introduction to it, I think. I mean 241 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:15.240 the fact that it's written and directed by the creator 242 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:18.159 of the entire show. I think is I mean to, 243 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:21.440 and we don't want to draw comparisons constantly throughout every 244 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:22.120 episode of this. 245 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:24.120 That we do. But it's going to be hard, isn't it. 246 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:26.080 It's going to be how difficult, isn't it? I suppose? 247 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:29.519 But I would imagine that the first episode of the 248 00:15:29.519 --> 00:15:32.279 Twilet Zone was also written and directed by Rod or 249 00:15:32.279 --> 00:15:33.159 certainly written. 250 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:36.799 By him, right, certainly written by him? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. 251 00:15:36.840 --> 00:15:39.799 And so what was the the let's get this part 252 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:41.840 out of the way before we dig into the episode. 253 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:45.000 What's that in terms of the broadcast the date of 254 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:50.000 the sixteenth of September nineteen sixty three, what was the 255 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:52.639 distance between that and the first the airing of the 256 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:54.279 first episode of the Twilight Zone. 257 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:57.600 So the first Twilight Zone was fifty nine, and I 258 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:02.360 think the last one was sixty four. Now, I did 259 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:06.799 look briefly into The Outer Limits Companion before, and the 260 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:11.720 writer of that book said that, yeah, sure it shares, 261 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:15.279 you know, a bit of familiarity with the Twilight Zone, 262 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:20.600 but he believes it to be more akin to other 263 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:24.360 science fiction anthologies that came before the Twilight Zone, because 264 00:16:24.360 --> 00:16:27.799 the Twilight Zone wasn't fast, but there were things like 265 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:32.080 one Step Beyond or are Tales of Tomorrow, you know, 266 00:16:32.159 --> 00:16:34.440 so there were a few things around at the time, 267 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:39.120 whereas the Twilight Zone, although there was you know, science 268 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:42.559 fiction in it, it wasn't particularly hard sci fi where 269 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:45.720 this goes for a bit more of a harder edge 270 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:46.840 sci fi if you like. 271 00:16:47.799 --> 00:16:49.679 Yeah, that was something that I knew going into this 272 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:52.759 is that these you know, so we're cover from two 273 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:56.000 seasons here. They're going to be more science fiction related 274 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:58.840 stories in this show than they would have been in well, 275 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:01.320 certainly in Night Gallery, which is the show that we covered, 276 00:17:01.360 --> 00:17:05.640 the rod adjacent show that we covered before. But yeah, interesting, 277 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:08.160 so the Galaxy being we get our first taste here 278 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:10.079 of the Outer Limits, and I have to say, I 279 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:13.440 really enjoy the intro. You know, do not adjust your 280 00:17:13.480 --> 00:17:17.319 television set. I really enjoy stuff like that, and I 281 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:20.759 think that it's a I think that's pretty iconic. Really, 282 00:17:20.759 --> 00:17:23.480 that's something that I do. I did remember being a 283 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:25.519 part of the show and being something that that's kind 284 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:26.519 of quite important to it. 285 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:30.720 I think it's absolutely right because had it been like, 286 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:34.640 oh right, let's get a guy in, let's get Leslie 287 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:37.160 Stevens in, I mean he might have done a fine 288 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:40.079 job standing up there introducing it, but it would have 289 00:17:40.160 --> 00:17:44.440 been I think although there were many many hosts of 290 00:17:44.759 --> 00:17:48.720 TV shows, you know, it was quite common for the 291 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:52.640 to be an open and narrator or something like that. 292 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:58.640 I think Rod's really just cemented himself as no one's 293 00:17:58.680 --> 00:18:01.759 going to beat this guy, you know, Yeah, if we 294 00:18:01.839 --> 00:18:04.039 do it now, it's just going to seem like a 295 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:06.200 rip off of Rod Sailing. So they'd done this really 296 00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:10.839 imaginative thing like we're interrupting your transmission, this is this 297 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:12.880 is comming from somewhere else. And I think it was 298 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:14.720 a really good movie. You're absolutely right. 299 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:19.200 Yeah, the control voice as done by Vic Perrin. Now 300 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:22.759 I didn't really know Vic Perry, to be completely honest 301 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:24.680 with you. I know that he did some acting. He 302 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:30.599 seems to have an incredibly vast amount of voice acting 303 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:35.200 credits throughout the years. He's done a lot of voiceover work. 304 00:18:35.240 --> 00:18:40.599 He was the voice of Sinetro Sinestro rather the the villain, 305 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:43.599 the Green Lanterns villain on the on the Challenge of 306 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:47.480 the super Friends. He did stuff on Space Ghost, He 307 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:49.640 was you know, did a fair amount of Marvel stuff, 308 00:18:49.640 --> 00:18:51.200 you know, the old Marvel cartoons. 309 00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:52.000 He was on. 310 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:54.640 Scooby Doo, so this is, you know, so this is 311 00:18:54.680 --> 00:18:57.279 a guy who has done a whole bunch of different 312 00:18:57.279 --> 00:19:02.119 stuff really and did ming the Merciless. He's a I 313 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:03.880 think he's a great voice for it. 314 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:08.119 I have to say, well, I'm not gonna pick out 315 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:12.359 Twilight Zone alumni throughout this show because there's so many 316 00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:15.000 of them, you know, but Vic Perrin was in the 317 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:18.640 Twilight Zone as well. He was in an episode called 318 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:21.119 people Are Like All Over. I think he was in 319 00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:23.000 a couple of others, but I know there was one 320 00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:25.920 where like he's done a part but it got caught 321 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:28.839 and things. So there is a connection there and it's 322 00:19:28.920 --> 00:19:32.279 kind of nice that he's the main person in this, 323 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:35.519 But there are so many that if I'm sitting here 324 00:19:35.559 --> 00:19:37.519 being like, he's been in the Twilight Zone, She's been 325 00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:42.240 in the Twilight and it's just going to become really tiresome, because, 326 00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:45.000 like I said, if you count Vic Perrin, there's at 327 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:49.200 least four now in this episode. So I'm not gonna 328 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:50.519 I'm not gonna keep going there. 329 00:19:50.920 --> 00:19:53.039 Are you going to be able to help yourself though, Tom, 330 00:19:53.039 --> 00:19:55.720 that's the question. It's whether you're gonna be whether you're 331 00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:57.799 gonna be able to take your toilight his own hat off. 332 00:19:58.720 --> 00:20:00.480 Come to this fresh. You know, it's gonna difficult, I 333 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:02.480 suppose in that regard, But I like the before we 334 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:04.359 get stuck into the bulk of the kind of story 335 00:20:04.359 --> 00:20:07.599 in this episode. I like the fact that it very 336 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:09.960 much is someone coming in and saying, we're taking control 337 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:11.759 of your television set. Now you're gonna have to deal 338 00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:13.680 with it, but then we'll give it back to you 339 00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:15.759 at the end. And that's kind of the you know, 340 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:18.680 the whole thing that happens here with each episode is 341 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:21.039 that they take control of it, they show you what 342 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:22.759 needs to be shown, and then they give you control 343 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:24.960 of your TV set back at the end of the episode. 344 00:20:25.960 --> 00:20:29.000 So yeah, the galaxy being So, we're in the radio 345 00:20:29.079 --> 00:20:30.839 world here, Tom and you and I al though we've 346 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:33.000 not been on the radio, we've been podcasting for a 347 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:37.519 long time, and I feel like we're we're relatively comfortable 348 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:39.519 when we get into that radio world when we've covered 349 00:20:39.559 --> 00:20:41.880 stories where we've had a you know, we covered one 350 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:45.119 or two on Night Gallery together. For example, we get 351 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:47.640 the radio DJ coming in, but it's really not about 352 00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:51.680 the radio station as such. It's about really a man 353 00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:56.720 named Alan Maxwell who's conducting these experiments trying to contact something. 354 00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:02.240 What a weird setup this is. It almost seems that 355 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:05.200 because there's no one around this radio station apart from 356 00:21:05.200 --> 00:21:10.920 the DJ and Alan's wife who sort of works there, 357 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:13.920 I guess, and Alan who's out in the shed doing 358 00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:17.759 as little science experiments. So it very much feels like 359 00:21:17.799 --> 00:21:21.519 this station is in someone's backyard or something. So it 360 00:21:21.640 --> 00:21:22.720 is a little bit odd. 361 00:21:23.119 --> 00:21:26.759 Yeah, it totally is. But Alan is a well, Alan's 362 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:28.880 become a real shut in. He doesn't want to go out, 363 00:21:28.920 --> 00:21:31.519 he doesn't want to do anything. He's not really even 364 00:21:31.640 --> 00:21:33.960 he doesn't really have much of a relationship with his wife, 365 00:21:34.039 --> 00:21:40.799 Carol he mentioned before. Anymore. He's transfixed on using microwaves, 366 00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:44.759 using these radio waves to try and contact something, to 367 00:21:44.759 --> 00:21:50.160 try and explore the universe as it may be, and 368 00:21:50.279 --> 00:21:53.759 Carol is tired of it. On Carol is sick of it. 369 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:56.960 She's like, look, you're about to be awarded for your 370 00:21:57.440 --> 00:21:59.680 you know, you're you're getting a there's going to be 371 00:21:59.720 --> 00:22:02.039 like a speech where you're going to be commended for 372 00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:03.880 your incredible work in your field. 373 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:04.240 Soon. 374 00:22:05.039 --> 00:22:07.680 You need to, you know, be with me again and 375 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:12.279 be with the station and you know, accept the reality 376 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:14.240 of your life rather than just being stuck in here. 377 00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:16.960 But he's insistent, isn't he that? Look, I'm I feel 378 00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:18.400 like I'm on the verge of something here. 379 00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:21.119 Yeah, there's a bit of that in all of us, 380 00:22:21.200 --> 00:22:23.519 isn't there. Sometimes when you get your head into something 381 00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:26.160 and you're just like, right, I've just got to do 382 00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:29.079 this at the expense of anything else. You know, for me, 383 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:31.240 it might be sitting here working on one of these 384 00:22:31.920 --> 00:22:35.160 podcasts that are put out or whatever. So you know, 385 00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:40.319 I get it, especially if if he's starting to actually 386 00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:43.640 make progress, and I think the progress here is getting 387 00:22:43.680 --> 00:22:49.319 signals from this being. Now, I think this thing looks great. 388 00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:52.920 It's like a glass sculpture filled with molten lava. But 389 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:59.039 then turn negative and it's just such a great effect. 390 00:22:59.279 --> 00:23:02.640 Honestly, consider think this is nineteen sixty three. It would 391 00:23:02.680 --> 00:23:05.640 have been very easy to just have an alien turn 392 00:23:05.720 --> 00:23:08.839 up in a rubber suit, and I think they've done here. 393 00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:12.400 Probably the best effect they could have done, which, as 394 00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:15.200 you say, is to make this thing. It's slightly transparent. 395 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:18.079 It's got these sort of black dots that are moving 396 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:21.559 around through it. It's a really I was really taken 397 00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:23.400 aback by the fact that they did that, and that 398 00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:26.640 they kept it that way even when this alien is 399 00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:29.240 able to kind of make it through to Earth, as 400 00:23:29.240 --> 00:23:31.400 we'll talk about in a second here. I was really 401 00:23:31.400 --> 00:23:34.680