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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Tony from Hack the Movies here and today

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we're talking about Poltergeist two the other side, a movie

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that didn't need to be made.

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Speaker 2: Today on Hack the.

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Speaker 1: Movies, talk talking talking, talking about tapes. Hello, Shmuel Buckman,

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you're gonna die. I hope I don't. I hope I

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die laughing. Shmiel Buckman, Hello, Shmuel, how are you? I'm good, good,

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good good. Now for those of who don't know you,

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I mean, who cannot know you, that's that's very rare.

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You're beloved in the dabble Verse, or at least were

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until recently. But can you introduce yourself to my audience.

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Speaker 3: Beloved by some hated by others. I'm Shmiel Buckman, host

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of Shmiel Talk and a fellow fellow traveler in the

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dabble Verse. And what can I say? I'm a unique character. Yeah,

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I lose my train of thought during podcasts. I'm old

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and uh, I'm slow. I'm suffering from dementia so slowly,

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but surely I will eventually die on stream and it'll

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be great.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you're gonna die, please do it in this episode.

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I'd be really great for views.

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Speaker 3: I'll do my best.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully you're not like what was his name? Hopefully you're

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not like Julian Beck who ended up not being able

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to see this movie. But yes, Poltergeist two the other side, which,

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of course the tagline, I'm pretty sure they just made

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this movie because they had a great tagline, which was

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they're back, we.

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Speaker 3: Get to see Little Carol Anne.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of like Jael's two had just when you

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thought it was safe to go back in the water,

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and it's like, okay, outside of that tagline, you don't

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really have a lot of ideas. Now, Poltergeist one. How

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do you feel about Poltergeist one?

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Speaker 3: I liked polar Geist one, but you know, it was

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the age of the vs. In the video store, Yeah,

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and that's where I saw it. I was debating whether

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I'd seen it in the theater or not, but no,

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I saw it on video. And the thing about video

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at that time was every piece of crap in the

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world was coming out on video, and you wanted to

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see everything. And there was one of the ones that

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I remember getting and going, oh, that was pretty good.

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Speaker 1: It was one of my favorite.

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Speaker 3: The original enjoyed that, Yeah, enjoyed that movie a lot.

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Speaker 1: But you didn't rush out to see Poltergeist two the

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other Side when it came.

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Speaker 3: Out, I didn't know there was a Poltergeist to the

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other side until one Tony from Hack the movie said, Hey,

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would you like to watch Poultergeist too the other side?

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Speaker 1: Well, if you want some more shocks, there's also a

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Poltergeist three. And then in twenty fifteen, I think they

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made a Poltergeist rebake, so there's two more after this.

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Uh yeah, Now, look, this was a big film made

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like seventy five million bucks, probably not as as the

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first one. It was also nominated for Academy Awards for

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Visual Effects. Like the first one, the effects are like

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the effects of this movie go from being really great

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to outright terrible. One of the persons, one of the

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people responsible for that was hr Geeger, the guy who

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designed the alien from the Alien movies. He designed a

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couple of the creatures in this, but he didn't want

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to leave his house in Zurich, so he was like

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faxing them and he had a representative. But then when

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he saw the movie and saw how that final monster looked,

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he was like, oh, no, I should have been more

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hands on. I should have been there. That looks really

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now my name's on this and it looks like shit.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out where the hell they got

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that little monster from. I thought it was like an

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old ed wood where somebody said, hey, we need a monster,

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can you grab him out of the prop house.

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Speaker 1: It's like a big Medusa thing. It was so bad.

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But yeah, they could not get director Toby Hooper or

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executive producer Steven Spielberg back for this. They were like,

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you know, the story's done. However, the writers of Poltergeist

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one were like, now we could come up with something.

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Brian Gibson to do this one. I looked at his credits.

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I didn't reckon. Nothing really jumped out to me unless

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I missed like a big one, which I'm sure someone

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in the comments are going to be like, how could

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you miss this? But yeah, they got pretty much all

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of the cast back from the first one, except for

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the older sister because their boyfriend murdered her. But other

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than that, they got everyone back from the first one.

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Speaker 3: Did they mention her in the second one at all?

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off like an earlier script, mentions that she's at college.

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her at all in this. They're like, wasn't there another one?

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Speaker 3: It was?

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Speaker 1: It a family matters. There was like a sister who

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just disappears one season and they never bring her up

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or you never hear from her ever again.

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Speaker 3: Chuck and happy days going upstairs. Yeah, it was like

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seven unmarried with children.

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Speaker 1: They did call back, but I think there's a milk

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cart in a later and they're like, oh whatever, Yeah,

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pretty much everyone is back, uh and yeah, you know what,

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let's let's go through this wonderful film. I got through

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a film that I was very excited to watch as

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a kid who when I was a gadda, I watched

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Portergeist one a lot. It was always on TV, and

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like this and I went, wait, there's more, Well, I

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gotta see where the story goes. And then I remember

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watching this and everyone who has watched this movie pretty

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much goes that old guy was creepy, and then they

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can't remember the rest of the movie. They'll be like

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was sorry, native guy. There was a Native guy, and

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that's it. That's all people can remember.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, I remember him from one flow over the

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Cuckoo's Nest.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what was his name?

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Speaker 3: Will sam Sampson And he was the obligatory Native American

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I totally for it. Wasn't until I

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was watching this yesterday I was like, wait, that's one

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to flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. I had to look

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it up, like, of course that's him. Yeah, let's let's

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go through this. It opens up with will Samson, the

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Native American whose name is Taylor. I kept just writing

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and he goes up there to meet an old ghost

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native his grandfather or something or ancestor. I don't know

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Speaker 3: I just thought he was a medicine man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that.

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Speaker 1: And then the fire goes nuts, a big spirit comes

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out of the fire or something. I'm not really sure

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what's happening. Got points in this movie, lots of white light. Yeah,

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white lights become absorbed by I will a lot of smoke.

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Speaker 2: We now know that there's some other psychic people.

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warn him about the evil that's going to attack the family.

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Speaker 3: Well, he became the guy that could help them fight it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: That he was.

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Speaker 2: Well that's what Yeah, that's that's what Steve thinks the dad.

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Speaker 1: But I know this is the eighties. We're all eighties

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and nineties, we're all into Native American mysticism saving the world.

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Speaker 3: If I saw one more person with a feather and

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burning sage at that time.

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that the big development from the previous movie. Every one's

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moved out. I guess if you see your neighbor's house

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get sucked into hell, he'll be like I think we

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gotta move. I think we gotta get out of here.

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the house is just a crater. But yeah, he meets

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the because the first movie it was just it was

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a cemetery and the assholes built the house on top

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of them, and the ghosts were upset and confused. In

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Speaker 3: The eighteen seventies kool Aid Yeah party, kind of.

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Speaker 2: The Heaven's Date of the eighteen seventies.

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Speaker 1: And apparently, I guess this cave has just preserved them

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should be done. They should not have bodies or anything. Still,

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they're now living with Diane's mom. Uh. I like uh,

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doesn't have a lot to work with. But he was

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he doesn't take it too terribly seriously now. And uh, yeah,

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the movie the effects are wild, but uh, I liked

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Speaker 1: He's trying something with this character, whereas everyone else is

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kind of just what they were in the last movie,

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interested in Carol Anne, and she lets her know that

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all the women in their family have magic psychic powers.

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Speaker 3: They all got the shining.

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Speaker 2: You can't keep.

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Speaker 1: Seeah. I love that the Freelings are still dealing with

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their old company, the people who own the house, because

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Speaker 1: Diane doesn't like that they're living uh with her mom,

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I love that he's like making that He's like selling

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vacuums door to door. Oh, I really. The one detail

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Speaker 2: He's like, I wish we could watch He's like, a

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radio's fine.

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Speaker 3: Use your imagination, Donnie was Danny Robbie Robbie Robbie Yeah, sorry, yeah,

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Robbie's like, I just want a TV.

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Speaker 1: But I like Stee. He's just like, I love selling

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vacuum store to door. I like being out there with

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his hairs all long. Now he's great.

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Speaker 3: He's great drinking tequila out of the bottle.

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Speaker 1: So the next day they go to a market and

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Speaker 3: Are you low, sweet Hunt?

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Speaker 1: Are you afraid Hunting? He is very skeletal in this.

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like a like a human corpse with minimal makeup effects?

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Speaker 1: Bil Buckman isn't old enough yet. This is nineteen eighty six.

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He's only the tender age of forty five. We have

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to win eight. Unfortunately the remake didn't get a sequel,

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but you would have been a shoeing for it. But no,

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they were like, I got it. We'll get this guy

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who's literally dying, Like that's why he looks so skeletaled.

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I'm like, that's rough, but he gives it his all.

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remember ral Julia. Yes, yes, he's in the street Fighter

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movie from the nineties, a movie with very stars Jean

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Claude Van dam so very poor acting. He did not

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have to go as hard as he did, and Ral Juliet,

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even though he was dying from stomach cancer, was like,

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I'm gonna put one hundred and ten percent effort into

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this character. That's like Julian Becka this, I'm like, he

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gave it his all. And to his credit, if anyone

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remembers Poultergeist too, they go, oh yeah with the old guy.

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Speaker 3: So I would have liked more of the old guy.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, look, uh they they do bring him back

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for Poltergeist three, and by that I mean they put

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makeup on a different guy to make it look like.

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Speaker 2: As you can imagine, it didn't look as good.

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Speaker 1: Now they could just ai am now, they could just

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ai I'm sure they're doing that right now.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, he meets Caro Lan and.

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Speaker 1: He's all creepy. He's like hello, He's singing like God

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is in his holy temple, which my friend reminded me,

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I think the creepy guy from Scary Movie Too sings

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that song. But I got to rewatch kids Scary Movie Too.

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It's been a minute. Uh how did you feel when

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he walked into Frey?

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I'm going like if some old guy walked up to

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a little girl like that today, the phones would be

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out and the cameras are and nobody's paying attention.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you know, well we learn why they're not paying attention.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The Diane freaks out because Caroline's gone because the

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last time Caroline disappeared, she went away for weeks and

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she was in the spirit world. So whenever Caroline's not

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in their sights, they get very worried. But yeah, they

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like get her away from Cain. And when Carol Anne

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looks back, she sees someone walk right through him. So

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only the family can see him, right, which is funny

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because that means, like anyone else, if they were paying attention,

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they're just seeing this family talk to Air.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think the boy could.

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Speaker 1: See him, so I thought, yeah, wait, does the boy

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have any reaction to him?

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Speaker 3: No, I thought that the boy didn't see him, Like

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you don't realize it until later on when they like

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say that Diane has psychic power. Yeah, so she saw him,

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but I don't feel like I.

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Speaker 2: No, I think Robbie sees no, because later the whole

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family sees it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, the ghost can pick and choose when you're

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allowed to see them. I think that their whole thing

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is just they can like communicate with them and see visions.

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meet this Reverend Cain, so we know there's a bad guy.

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We know not to trust him. That night, Diane and

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her mom have an argument. I think it's about the

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psychic powers. I can't remember.

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Speaker 3: It's it's the The mom is telling Diane that Caroline,

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the grandma, is telling the mom that Caroline is special. Yeah,

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and that Carol Anne can see things. And this is

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after Grandma had disclosed to Caroline that she could see things.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I think at this point Caroline's drawing pictures

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of Cain without realizing it. But yeah, so they have

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a little argument. And then Caroline at night her here's

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her fake toy telephone go off and then she answers

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it and she's telling her grandmother that she'll be good.

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Cut to the next day. Grandma is dead. She's dead.

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Speaker 3: Well, she does go in and kiss Grandma on the cheek,

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ye right, And also too, she shares her room with Robbie.

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then she walks into a bedroom and climbs into her

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which would.

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Speaker 1: Be her bed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, because she's with the parents, goes to grandma

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and I'm like, where's where's Robbie? Like the room looked different.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Robbie I think has his own bed in the room.

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Speaker 3: Right, the same room, a different bed, but the layout

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was different. But she kisses Grandma and goes to bed

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and is totally unsurprised.

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Speaker 1: The next day and she's like, yeah, I already know

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it'll be fine. Be weird that she didn't really cry.

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I guess. I guess if the ghost of your grandmother's like,

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don't worry as she can call. Yeah, I guess it

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doesn't really hurt as much.

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Speaker 2: If you could just call the.

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Speaker 1: So yeah. The mom then flashes back to having a

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memory with her mother when they were like out in

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the garden and I can't remember what was the flashback.

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Speaker 3: So uh, Diane is out cutting roses, yes, and then

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has a flashback to when her and her mom planted

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the rose bush right right, that was like seven years

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old or something.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I forgot the specific memory again. I was

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I watched this movie after like working a whole week,

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and then I usually don't drink. Well, I do drink

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on Sunday nights, but that's a carry okay. But I

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was at my friends, I like down more cores.

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Speaker 3: I was told there was gonna be a quiz.

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Speaker 1: You're doing a great job so far, pleasant memory during

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the day, but then at night she has a nightmare

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about zombies. Dragger. It's the ground and those zombies look

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cool as hell. They look cool as hell. So we

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now know the ghosts are coming because they have that

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smoke water effect over the house and it's raining ectoplasm

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onto the house.

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Speaker 2: I'm not really sure what's happening there.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was just rain, but the you know

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that it was just that house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you see the Yeah, And I like that

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Caro Land just has a huge spotlight over her bed.

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It's so funny to like, I know what kind of

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light they use. I'm like, just so bizarre seeing it

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in that room. But yeah, so the ghosts are trying

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to communicate with them. They're talking to her on the phone,

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but it's not her grandmother. Then they make all the

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toys come to life, which is always the scariest part

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of this movie. I think this is where she's on

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the phone and then the dolls head turns. I'm like, ah, man,

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I don't like that.

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Speaker 3: The little mechanical robot with the gun.

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Speaker 1: So the whole house shakes and they're all freaking out,

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and I like, this is one thing that sequels to

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sometimes do where they make you think they're gonna rehash

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something and then they like throw a curveball, so they

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all think Caroline's gone and they find like a shape

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with a blanket over because the first one they thought, oh,

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we found her and it was the clown toy r.

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she actually.

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Speaker 3: Is there and that's where she gives the big line.

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Speaker 1: Fuck yeah. The house is like creaking and shaking, and

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when they open the door they find Taylor and he's like, Hi,

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I'm here to help me with your ghost problem. I

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love this. He's like running isn't gonna work. You have

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to face this, and they go cut the fuck out

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and they go to a dim.

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Speaker 3: Well, what would you do?

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Speaker 1: You know? I know I love it. In some movie,

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like even though like Paranormal Activity, they're like, if you leave,

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it'll just follow you. I'm like, yeah, but the characters

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don't know that for sure. Why don't they just test

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it out?

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Speaker 3: You know what I found out is they go to

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the diner. It's four in the morning, right, and they're

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all there. Craig is having a beer. Steve, yeah, he's

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having a beer. The kids are eating They're like, oh,

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we want to play games, and you're just like, wait,

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your house it was just almost torn away by ghosts

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and goblins.

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Speaker 1: What's the second time it happened. They're a used to

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it by now. Let's play pinball and I love that.

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Like at the counter there's a girl with like curlers

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in her hair yelling at her friend and they're having

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like a huge argument.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that the girl with the curlers in

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her hair is Wendy from the old Snapple commercials.

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Speaker 1: Oh right, Wendy from the old staple. You know what,

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Let me look it up. Let me look it up.

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Hold on, I actually don't know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Do you not know about Snapple commercials?

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Speaker 4: Hello from Snapple? Today's letter is from Nancy Lambert Hadug.

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Shane can be asleep in the back bedroom, but if

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you open a Snapple, she comes running this I gotta say.

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Speaker 1: Shanny Wendy's successful Snapple, but she was non in Polar

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Guys too. She is in Vegas vacation and enough already,

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and funny Valentine and a movie called College Debts.

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Speaker 3: I'll have to I'll put those on the list.

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Speaker 1: She is retired from activity, I guess. But yeah, I

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love that. Like they're arguing about what they're gonna do.

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It seems like I'm thinking, could you give me a minute?

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I don't know how to deal with ghosts, I'm thinking.

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And then the curler girl gets possessed by the grandmother.

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It's just like you gotta do this and this and this,

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and they're like, what the fuck. When the curler girl

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steps out of it, she's like, what do you mean, mom,

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Get away from it. Not the weirdest thing I've seen

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at a diner late at night. It's not the weirdest.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, If you don't know, but yeah, you know,

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you're not often gonna see, you know, a family of four, yeah,

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sitting there.

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Speaker 1: There was. Once we went to a diner. A guy

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went into the bathroom and just came out, just button naked,

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screaming and ran into his friend's car to get away

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and like everyone looked and there was a cop there,

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and he had his food in front of them, and

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he could tell. He was like looking around like does

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anyone want me to do anything? Like he really didn't

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want to address it. So he's like looking around like,

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no one bothered to tell he went. You can see.

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He's like, oh, thank god, I could finish my meal.

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He's like, I really don't want to chase that guy.

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Speaker 3: Break there's no body cam.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can tell, you like said, He's like, please,

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no one asked me anything.

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Speaker 1: No one. I'm like, okay, got I can. That was

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the funniest thing in the world.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the guy knew that there was a

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Coppit there.

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Speaker 3: I could imagine having lost a bet and wind up

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doing that.

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Speaker 1: So they go outside of the diner and there's just

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a very obvious backdrop. That is the fakest backdrop. I

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bet they put a couple of cactuses in front of it.

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But I'm like, at no point do I think they're

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actually in the desert? No? Yeah, And Taylor's there and

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he's like, come on, man, you have to trust me.

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You have to trust me. And Diane's like, we let's

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hear him out. Let's hear this random guy who came

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out of nowhere. Uh and see what he asked to say. Uh.

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They bring him home and he's like, the house is fine,

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but your car is mad at you. He can speak

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to the spirit of the car.

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Speaker 3: I guess yeah, which comes back later.

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Speaker 1: Yes, this is a running gag for the joke at

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the end of the film. Uh. He's like, yeah, your

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car is mad at you. He's like, what the hell

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are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: But we have to mention.

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Speaker 1: Sorry by my lights just we had a poldergeist in

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the store. My lights on the floor just flickered out.

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Speaker 3: I am the curse travels, okay, travels with me wherever. Yes,

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technical problems. They follow me everywhere. Uh. But we did

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have the throwback we have to with Will Samson with

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Taylor Yeah, who does play right? So Taylor is that

469
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the native guy and Craig Nelson. I keeps I'm sorry

470
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that I keep her fan.

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Speaker 1: I do it all the time.

472
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Speaker 3: Steve says he's like some crazy man who escaped from

473
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an asylum or something.

474
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Speaker 1: Which is funny because one who flour up the group

475
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is he literally escapes the asylum.

476
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Speaker 3: And I was like that is will Sampson.

477
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Speaker 1: And the whole time they're having this conversation, he's just

478
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like doing tight chi. But she says he's like tangina

479
00:24:09,559 --> 00:24:13,359
vouches for him. It's like, okay, I guess. But then

480
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he's like he just makes a bunch of butterflies fly

481
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around him, and they're like, well, surely anyone who hangs

482
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out with butterflies can't be evil. He must be the

483
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nicest guy in the world. But then he's not allowed

484
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in the house. She will they won't let him in

485
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the house. He lives in a tpe outside. I can't

486
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tra all comparisons to anything else that have ever happened.

487
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But he's in a little TV outside or a little

488
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tent and he's just painting Robbie's.

489
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Speaker 3: Face, putting claw marks on his arm.

490
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Speaker 1: And the mom's like, could you not? I love that.

491
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She's basically I want.

492
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Speaker 2: My kids to be normal, not ghost or natives.

493
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Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, she's talking about how she doesn't

494
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want them hunted by spirits, but for a minute, I

495
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think she wanted It sounded a little racist at first, like, oh, right,

496
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she means.

497
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Speaker 3: I was waiting for the that ship is sailed.

498
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Speaker 1: Lady and then see comes back freaking out. He's like,

499
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you broke my car more because he's like, I'll work

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on your car. Comes back, it's basically on fire and

501
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he's just like, you're it's still mad at you. The

502
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car is still mad at you. I wonder iful. A

503
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mechanic is everything.

504
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Speaker 3: Taylor does spend a lot of time, like you know,

505
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with the herbs and the burning of the sage and

506
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all that stuff on this car, and.

507
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Speaker 1: It's tight chi and everything he did, he did.

508
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Speaker 3: Taylor does wind up having a relationship with the car.

509
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Speaker 1: Yes, he does. Carol Anne is uh on the front

510
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lawn and she becomes hypnotized because Kane arrives singing his song,

511
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and as soon as he arrives, it starts raining. Even

512
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though the sun is bright as hell, it just starts rain.

513
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I get they were doing. It's like ghost rain, but

514
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like also the sky should have been a little dark.

515
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Speaker 3: Just stopping by.

516
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like uh, And of course the whole family

517
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is creeked out by him.

518
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Speaker 2: Because of course he's like this amish looking dude.

519
00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: He's come up. He's like singing to a little girl.

520
00:26:14,839 --> 00:26:18,119
He's being way too polite. They're like, come on, man,

521
00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:18,680
just leave.

522
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Speaker 3: He's he looks like every scary pastor that you know

523
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,039
hung a witch back in you know, New England.

524
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Speaker 1: Yep, yep. And he offers to help Steve with his

525
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,519
ghost problem. He's like, I can help you with everything,

526
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,000
and he's trying to gas on. He's like, Taylor's not

527
00:26:36,079 --> 00:26:39,160
a good guy. He's a bad guy. You should trust me.

528
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,400
Different creepy guy who should up at your house. It's

529
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,160
really not the best sales pitch. But you know that

530
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,559
creepy guy at your house. He's no good But I'm

531
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also creepy.

532
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Speaker 3: Right, he's creepier than I am. Did you think there

533
00:26:51,599 --> 00:26:54,359
was like a little bit of a Dracula thing in

534
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,880
there because the kid asks, he keeps asking him to

535
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,599
come in the house. Yeah, Steve never lets him in

536
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:01,079
the house.

537
00:27:01,759 --> 00:27:04,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's more like on a psychological level,

538
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,720
like let me in, like to you and whatnot, because

539
00:27:08,759 --> 00:27:10,640
I think he can just go oh, didn't stop him

540
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,160
in the house. But I think it's more like he

541
00:27:13,279 --> 00:27:16,240
just he's hypnotized, like let me in so that I

542
00:27:16,279 --> 00:27:17,480
can like take over the family.

543
00:27:17,519 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 2: He wants to kind of like break up the family's love.

544
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 3: It's such an attractive lovable old man. I'm surprised they

545
00:27:23,759 --> 00:27:25,519
didn't just let him come in and have a cup

546
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of tea.

547
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Speaker 1: Well yeah, and like he's like reading Steve's mind. He's like,

548
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,079
you're afraid you're not man enough to help me.

549
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,559
Speaker 3: He's like, how do you know that?

550
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,799
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Diane is getting a vision of Caine with this

551
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,720
cult inside the cave. She's like, what the hell is this?

552
00:27:42,319 --> 00:27:51,599
And then this is when you get the you're gonna die?

553
00:27:54,359 --> 00:28:00,759
Hello everyone, we're interrupting the episode to talk to Tiffany. Hello, Tiffany, Hello, Tony,

554
00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:04,480
how are you all right? And you're the co promoter

555
00:28:04,599 --> 00:28:06,720
of the sci Fi horror Fest that I will be

556
00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:08,000
attending in August.

557
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 4: Indeed I am and are so excited to have you

558
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:16,519
and along with your friend's movie Dumpster and Grimmins decl absolutely, yeah.

559
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: That's gonna be great. Now, how long have you been

560
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,720
doing the Sci Fi horror Fest?

561
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,839
Speaker 4: Now, technically we've been doing it since twenty twenty seven.

562
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: But I mean, wow, oh that's impressive. So you've you

563
00:28:27,759 --> 00:28:30,039
got a head start and you went back but you

564
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,039
already know all the mistakes you're made, and now you're

565
00:28:32,079 --> 00:28:35,880
going back in time. So when did you actually start.

566
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 4: What are seventeen? Okay, be fair? I giden from from

567
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,119
a workshop yesterday and on my brain it's completely on

568
00:28:43,359 --> 00:28:46,799
much time. I'm so sorry. We started out on twenty seventeen,

569
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but it was actually author Conon Movie Fest and it

570
00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:51,680
didn't quite catch on because it started out in Oneana

571
00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:55,680
And yeah, it was a little hard because my husband's

572
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,680
a writer and you know, I dabble in it, and

573
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,839
we wanted to give a platform to writers, and not

574
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,119
everybody grabbed the concept. So in Oneana we went from

575
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,799
praying we'd have like twenty to thirty people walk through

576
00:29:08,839 --> 00:29:12,200
the door. Then COVID hit and we had to take

577
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,200
a break, and you know, I was on the fence

578
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,359
of moving and my husband's like, dude, we're going to move,

579
00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:20,319
which is why we're a great balance a lot of

580
00:29:20,319 --> 00:29:23,759
the times. And so COVID was a blessing and we

581
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,200
ended up moving to Vernon Downs where we are now,

582
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,720
and we went from praying that twenty people would walk

583
00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:31,880
to the door and paying out all the time to

584
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,960
we had over four hundred and fifty people and we

585
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,119
had David Howard Thornton in twenty twenty two, so it's

586
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,720
kind of like we're circling back Man's TJ as well.

587
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So yeah, we've grown. So that's how I've been doing it.

588
00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:46,599
Speaker 1: And so everyone knows that I'm going to be there.

589
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,400
Obviously I'm the biggest drawl. Everyone's buying tickets, right, But

590
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,119
what other big guests?

591
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,759
Speaker 4: You are the biggest guests. I mean, your guarantee is

592
00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:54,359
the biggest.

593
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: I mean, but are there any other people who might

594
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,960
be as equal to me from any movie that'll be there?

595
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 4: I mean, it's gonna be really hard to like match

596
00:30:03,759 --> 00:30:07,319
what you're bringing, but I mean, David Howard Thornton are

597
00:30:07,319 --> 00:30:09,240
at the Clown. He's gonna try. He's gonna give it

598
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,759
the good old college try, you know, basking and your

599
00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:14,720
Light's gonna be difficult, but he's gonna give it a go.

600
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Then we have Samantha Scffiti, who is Victoria Hayes from

601
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,359
from the Cot from Uh Terrifier. We have a little

602
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,319
peril girl Emily McLain, who's going to be there. Then

603
00:30:26,359 --> 00:30:28,000
of course, like we have like half the cast of

604
00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:30,039
Friday the Thirteenth Part sixes. Who doesn't love c J.

605
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,039
Jason boorgez right.

606
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Speaker 1: Six is my favorite? So that's awesome.

607
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 4: Your favorite gonna love because we got Tommy McLoughlin, who

608
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,440
wrote it, produced it. He's gonna be there. We got

609
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,000
Thomas Matthews, who's the final guy right, who is also

610
00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:48,079
living dad and everything. And then we have Darcy DeMoss,

611
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,039
the beautiful Lisa who got her head smashed into the

612
00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:55,200
Winnebago by by. And then we've got Friday the Thirteenth,

613
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Part five cast. We have Melanie Kinneman who is the

614
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,880
beautiful Pam who overs which this is funny. So Dick

615
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:07,000
Wien we all know plays Royai Jason right, I worked

616
00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:10,839
direct here for opwd D and OMH. So like when

617
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,559
I see part five, I have so many questions because

618
00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:19,160
I'm like, who oversaw your house? And and and Dick,

619
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,319
like you you had nothing to do with your kid

620
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,880
and then he gets murdered. Now it's everybody's problem, not

621
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,519
just a but now it's everybody's problem.

622
00:31:27,599 --> 00:31:29,279
Speaker 2: Like no, the guy, the guy who killed his kid

623
00:31:29,319 --> 00:31:30,440
gets off Scott free.

624
00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 4: He just goes to jail. But it's everybody else's problem.

625
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,720
So I'm like, I have conversations that I have to

626
00:31:36,839 --> 00:31:40,880
have because we have I mean, the King of Trauma,

627
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,880
Lloyd Kaufman himself will be there, which.

628
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,799
Speaker 1: Is your friends on the show friend.

629
00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 4: Christopher de Chazay. So if you love paranormal and he

630
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,759
wants true haunting on Netflix. He's a ghostboyage and CEO.

631
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,400
We're actually really good friends with him. That has actually

632
00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:58,200
been in the works for quite a while. There's other

633
00:31:58,279 --> 00:32:01,440
movies out about his haunting, his experience, the C two

634
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,519
D one Hauntings. I he'll be there. He's going to

635
00:32:03,559 --> 00:32:06,000
be doing a panel. And then of course we have

636
00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:09,599
Grim from Grim's Horror Show. We have Seago Trachenberg from

637
00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:14,279
Good Badflix who won the Bolo Award from Joe Bob Briggs.

638
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,440
We have this dude who's really really popular and really famous,

639
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,039
like Tony of Hack the movies. He's coming like, yeah.

640
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: He's my favorite. I'll be getting his autogram.

641
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,279
Speaker 4: We're waiting for the lines, like we have specific lines

642
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,200
just for him to make sure that you know, we

643
00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:31,599
have the crowd control and all.

644
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: I think. I think I sent my rider. I'm going

645
00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:36,559
to need ten thousand dollars worth of food in the

646
00:32:36,599 --> 00:32:40,039
back a private bus. I'm sure you got all of that.

647
00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:44,599
Speaker 4: I got brown eminem specific just from Australia. I've got it.

648
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,839
We've got hand fed to you by oomplumpus. I'm working

649
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,039
on it. They're coming, They're coming over.

650
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: Okay, So you mentioned there were some panels. Are there

651
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,680
going to be any contests there? Like costume contests or

652
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:56,559
cosplay contest?

653
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 4: So we have so many cool attractions right, so we do.

654
00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:01,960
We're have cost by contacts done with the an adult

655
00:33:02,119 --> 00:33:05,680
and a kid division, and there will be prizes. And

656
00:33:05,759 --> 00:33:07,680
then we also are going to be having a group

657
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,759
photo of how many art the clowns and how many

658
00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:12,960
jasons we can get into a single event and into

659
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,200
one photo. So I need everybody to listen very clearly

660
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:18,839
to this. It is free to be in the photo.

661
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,240
Registration for the photo is for twelve to four. You

662
00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:25,400
get a white wristband. It's free to be in the photo. However,

663
00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:27,440
if you want to come into the event, you do

664
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:29,839
have to pay to get into the event. Unfortunately, we

665
00:33:29,839 --> 00:33:32,160
are sold out of VIPN vendor tables. We only have

666
00:33:32,279 --> 00:33:35,440
day and weekend passes left. So again to clarify, you

667
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,440
can be in the photo, which will take place at

668
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,559
five pm Eastern Standard Time on August fifteenth. Registration is

669
00:33:41,559 --> 00:33:43,960
from noon to four any age. You can have any

670
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:46,400
variation of art, the clown or Jason. We just have

671
00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:48,759
to know what you are or who you are, I

672
00:33:48,759 --> 00:33:51,279
should say. And it is free, but if you want

673
00:33:51,319 --> 00:33:51,839
to get into the.

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Speaker 1: Event, you do have to pet awesome. And where can

675
00:33:54,359 --> 00:33:55,200
we get these tickets?

676
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 4: You can get these tickets at w dot sdi FI,

677
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,920
horror fes dot com or as long as they are available,

678
00:34:02,759 --> 00:34:05,680
we will have them at the door cash only. We

679
00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:08,920
also have a movie rip I believe You're taking place

680
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,920
in it with Graham and everybody on on Saturday. We've

681
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,920
got our We're gonna have Terrifier panels, Freday thirteenth panels. Oh.

682
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,000
We also have Jason Brooks who is amazing fan film

683
00:34:19,079 --> 00:34:22,559
of Vengeance and Vengeance Rosebud Friday the thirteenth, and Naomi

684
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:25,920
Miller who the FX artists. They will also be there

685
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,679
to their celebrity guests as well. And they just did

686
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,719
the Death of Snow White and they did Slot Diced

687
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:34,719
so and he might be dressing up as Benny. We've

688
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,960
got tattoo artists, we have fudge, We've got food trucks.

689
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,320
We've got Elm Street Taco who have the most amazing

690
00:34:41,559 --> 00:34:44,599
Mexican food. We have Deli Lizzie who has pulled pork

691
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:47,000
mac and cheese and hamburgers and hot dogs. We've got

692
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,639
oldies and goodies. We're gonna bring pretzels and kettle corn.

693
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:52,519
We got La La lemonade that's gonna have a specialized

694
00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:56,559
drink for our event. We are sponsors never More Tattoo

695
00:34:56,599 --> 00:34:59,639
and Collective. They're gonna be their tattooing they have. They

696
00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:01,840
have a mamazing artists. I've got work done by them.

697
00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:06,400
We've got Monster Creek who's going to be bringing some amazing,

698
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,719
amazing monster stuff with Bigfoot. We've got Scope Paranormal as

699
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,320
a sponsor. We also have Third Day Teas who'll create

700
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,920
some of our shirts. Yeah, we have so much good

701
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,159
stuff happening. We have, we have artists, we have jewelers,

702
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:24,239
we have we have Halloween Night, which is Michael Myers

703
00:35:24,559 --> 00:35:29,440
Versus Batman movie. We're gonna have trauma panels. We've got We've.

704
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 1: Got amazing but Yeah, I'm very excited for you guys

705
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,760
to come out. I'm very excited to go there. And

706
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,840
that is August fourteenth and fifteenth again in.

707
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:44,639
Speaker 4: Verting down hotel and casino awesome also heads up. Anybody

708
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,519
as welcome, but if you have a child on the

709
00:35:46,559 --> 00:35:48,159
age of twenty one, you have to be with them

710
00:35:48,159 --> 00:35:49,079
at all times.

711
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,599
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, all right, I will see you there, and

712
00:35:52,639 --> 00:35:54,920
I hopefully see all of you there. We're gonna have

713
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,199
a great time. They politely say no, and then he

714
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,360
walks away and he disappears along with the rain. The

715
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,360
nice little crusts ove there and then and then Taylor

716
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,159
comes out. He's like, wow, that was very scary. You

717
00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:15,280
know what, here's a feather, Like thanks, is like that

718
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:25,119
was your first spiritual battle. Here's a feather he survived first.

719
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,599
So that night, the native is outside, He's looking at

720
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:33,360
the sky. He's like, I'm seeking power and seems like

721
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,000
I'm seeking booze shugging.

722
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:38,599
Speaker 3: Uh.

723
00:36:38,639 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: He's such an alcoholic in this, and I love that.

724
00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:43,599
I guess Robbie's going through puberty. That's the one subplot.

725
00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:45,679
So he wanted to be a man, and he's like

726
00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:47,760
trying to kick Caro Lan out so he could shade.

727
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,719
But there is this is like a really good moment

728
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,079
where like he looks away and the mirror like blinks

729
00:36:54,119 --> 00:36:55,840
and it's all a bunch of ghosts in the mirror.

730
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,800
That was really cool And I love one little skeleton

731
00:36:58,880 --> 00:36:59,960
arm taps him on the shoulder.

732
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 3: It scares him a lot. I do want to go

733
00:37:02,559 --> 00:37:05,519
back to just the drinking. So Steve is at you know,

734
00:37:05,559 --> 00:37:09,760
he's outside with Taylor and he's swigging tequila from the

735
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,840
bottle and he asks Taylor if he wants him, and

736
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,440
Taylor's like, no, can't drink anymore. And it's like, oh,

737
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,360
you got a problem, and Taylor's like bad dreams.

738
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,639
Speaker 1: Robbie's getting ready to uh shave with.

739
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,519
Speaker 3: The braces start happening.

740
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: Yes, the braces, which, like before I rewatched this like

741
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,239
five years ago, the only things I really could remember

742
00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:37,599
the old guy and the one other big thing was

743
00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:45,119
the braces. Uh yeah, this is I was a kid

744
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:47,039
with braces, so this was kind of hard to watch.

745
00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:50,199
But yeah, his braces come to life and they just

746
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,960
wrap rud they do that reverse photography. Yeah, it's fucking.

747
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 3: Creepy and the wire just keeps going and yeah, his

748
00:37:58,199 --> 00:37:59,519
face and his body.

749
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it kind of reminds you of the scene

750
00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:03,599
in the first one of the guys like peeling his

751
00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:07,039
face and it just keeps going and going. But yeah,

752
00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:10,079
he's like being cocooned up onto the ceiling and everything,

753
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,119
and the whole time they're trying to help him, Taylor

754
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:16,039
won't help. He's just he's just sitting with Caroline. He's

755
00:38:16,159 --> 00:38:19,960
not assisting at all. But then the braces disappear and

756
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:22,159
the sink explodes. I guess the ghosts were bad. They

757
00:38:22,159 --> 00:38:23,800
couldn't get him, so they explode the sink.

758
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean the thing about the braces, it's

759
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,320
to me is like, all right, you're wrapping this kid

760
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,760
in wire, tightening this kid. Then you know, Steve tries

761
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,199
to save him, and Steve starts getting wrapped up in

762
00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:41,639
the wire, but they had to top it off with like, oh,

763
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,639
now the wire has to go into the electrical outlet. Yeah,

764
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,000
the wire never make quite makes it into the electrical

765
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,119
outlet before the electrical outlet starts showing signs of burning

766
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,840
as they were getting closed. And then that was sort

767
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,119
of the There was a a flash, the every you know,

768
00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:05,360
everything sort of disappears.

769
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is what happened when the guy was peeling

770
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,599
his face off of the first one. The lights flash

771
00:39:08,639 --> 00:39:11,559
and he's back to normal. So yeah, and it ends.

772
00:39:11,599 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 3: But then we find out that's when we tailor. There's

773
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,079
a lot of old men hugging that little girl and.

774
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you couldn't make this movie today, I guess. But

775
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,519
he says they weren't after you, guys, they were distracting you,

776
00:39:26,039 --> 00:39:27,480
which is what they did in the first movie. They

777
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,079
were like they sent a tornado the tree and they

778
00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:33,360
left Caroline alone. It's like, now I was here for her.

779
00:39:33,519 --> 00:39:35,000
She's the one they're actually after.

780
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 3: Carle An is the one they want.

781
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 2: Yes, the ghosts still want her.

782
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: Okay. Then like that, Steve goes to sit in the

783
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,400
chair and the ghost launches him across. And again this

784
00:39:46,519 --> 00:39:49,599
is they get a little They really enjoy their effects,

785
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:51,800
but they I think they show the ghost a little

786
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,159
too much, like we know a ghost did that. We

787
00:39:54,199 --> 00:39:57,159
didn't need to see the white specter form stand up?

788
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 3: Well doesn't that doesn't that white spector form.

789
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: Then we hear Kane's voice.

790
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,199
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I thought.

791
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: He's like, nothing will stop me. I'm not dead.

792
00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: I'm still alive for something like that, and Taylor's just like, okay,

793
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,280
I think Kin is a guy who's filled with the

794
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,440
demon and he walks between the living and the dead,

795
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,239
and for some reason he thinks Carol Anne belongs.

796
00:40:21,679 --> 00:40:24,519
Speaker 2: To him, and they're like, well, we're all fucked. How

797
00:40:24,559 --> 00:40:25,199
do we find this?

798
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the thing. The thing with Kine, according to Taylor,

799
00:40:29,079 --> 00:40:32,079
is he sort of can't decide where he wants to go.

800
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's.

801
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,559
Speaker 3: You know, we all move on to eternity.

802
00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: It's just a different form, and he just wants control

803
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,199
over his followers and he.

804
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:44,599
Speaker 3: Just he can't decide.

805
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we don't really.

806
00:40:46,519 --> 00:40:48,599
Speaker 3: Know anything about the followers at this point.

807
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: We're getting glimpses, right, we will get Tangina eventually comes

808
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,039
and lets us know everything.

809
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,199
Speaker 3: Right, because we're we're watching this and other people are

810
00:40:57,199 --> 00:41:01,159
coming up, and there's the visions of Screa and whatnot.

811
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,639
Speaker 1: We have an idea of what's happening. But the next

812
00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:07,440
day he takes Steve to a mountain to do, I

813
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,079
don't know, a sweat lodge or something.

814
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,599
Speaker 3: You know, there's there's there's dozens of sweat lodges within

815
00:41:12,639 --> 00:41:15,119
a quick drive of suburbia.

816
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is that they're in suburbia.

817
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: Like, now we're going to a giant like spire in

818
00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:23,880
the middle of the desert and we're gonna do Native

819
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,840
American mad Chick, which again very big in the eighties

820
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,960
and nineties. We did the Prophecy with Christopher Walken. Even

821
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,639
though it's about like Christian angels and stuff, they still

822
00:41:32,639 --> 00:41:34,159
have Indian shamans at the end.

823
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: And at that time, I'm old enough, I'm telling you,

824
00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:39,559
At that time that was a big thing.

825
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: Like you forget how much of it when you rewatch

826
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,960
the X Files, like the early seasons of the X Files.

827
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,840
It's in a lot of episodes and eventually they kind

828
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:47,880
of got over all of it.

829
00:41:48,159 --> 00:41:51,639
Speaker 3: This this podcast that we're doing right now is going

830
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:56,000
to inspire somebody, and so we're gonna leave the charismania

831
00:41:56,199 --> 00:41:58,199
on the prophet of God and we're gonna see a

832
00:41:58,199 --> 00:42:02,800
lot more Indian Native American mysticism. Heading back, there was.

833
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: One did you ever see? Not the Prophecy, different movie

834
00:42:05,519 --> 00:42:08,280
Prophecy with the mutant bear. Did you ever see that one?

835
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

836
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,679
Speaker 1: Oh man, that was That might have been like early

837
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,400
eighties or late seventies, but that's one where like it

838
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,280
was a bear that was mutated, but like the local

839
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,159
natives think it's like their spirit or something. And the

840
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:25,000
main Indian is played by Italian Armando Sant with a

841
00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:26,280
tan I'm like, uh.

842
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 3: John Gutty in Toronto, I you know, I always look

843
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,079
down on you guys to watch these mads. How can

844
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:34,119
I watch this crap?

845
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:35,039
Speaker 2: Had?

846
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:35,639
Speaker 1: You know?

847
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,599
Speaker 3: And then I watch your show and then I'm like,

848
00:42:40,119 --> 00:42:44,199
get that movie a watch, and boy do I get sucked.

849
00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: We usually let people know if they're batter now seah,

850
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,760
he's taking them there. I actually love this gag that

851
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,480
they do where Diane's home, here's a knocking at the

852
00:42:58,519 --> 00:43:01,400
door and she opened up the things. She can't see anyone,

853
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,760
so immediately like, oh, it's the ghost messing with her.

854
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,079
And then it happens again. You're like, oh, no, she

855
00:43:06,159 --> 00:43:10,880
obsorbs actually tangina, but she's tiny, Like that's funny, that's

856
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,599
actually really This movie has a couple of good things

857
00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:15,320
in it. Man, that was like one of those really

858
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,920
good moments.

859
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,119
Speaker 3: Just but it's also too it's like this suburban sort

860
00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:24,360
of seventies house, like Levettown in California. Yeah, and they

861
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,960
have they had they had that door thing like.

862
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, the really big peopole, that's the big door. Yeah,

863
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,119
good luck pretending you're not home with that.

864
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:38,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's like a Dracula movie or you know,

865
00:43:38,679 --> 00:43:40,199
like Eastern Europe in there.

866
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, uh so she brings her up to

867
00:43:47,519 --> 00:43:49,679
date on the COLT. She's like, let me show you

868
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,000
some pictures, and I think she sees Kane and starts

869
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,920
freaking out. She's like, I knew you'd react like that.

870
00:43:54,159 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: Well, she hands her one and says, tell me how

871
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,920
you feel with this in your hand. Yeah, and then

872
00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:03,159
and she hands her the one of Cain Yeah, and Caro.

873
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,960
Diane gets a feeling mm hmm.

874
00:44:06,119 --> 00:44:08,599
Speaker 1: And then that's when so at the same time she's

875
00:44:08,639 --> 00:44:11,360
getting updated, she's like, yeah, they be found a cave.

876
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,159
We have no records of who these people are. We

877
00:44:14,199 --> 00:44:15,679
think it might be these people. And it's like, but

878
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,119
there was a mass suicide down there. You need to

879
00:44:18,199 --> 00:44:20,960
use your psychic powers to let us know what happened.

880
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,880
And while that's happening, Steve is like dealing with a

881
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,920
smoke monster on his spirit journey.

882
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 3: Uh.

883
00:44:29,679 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: Spirit like bites him.

884
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: And then he inhales it.

885
00:44:32,639 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 3: I don't know what is happening, so he's got Well,

886
00:44:35,039 --> 00:44:38,800
it's actually pretty funny because Will Will I'm just gonna say,

887
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,719
Will Smith Taylor hits hits the the peace pipe, yeah right,

888
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,679
and he blows the smoke into Steve's face and instead

889
00:44:48,679 --> 00:44:54,159
of it like naturally coming right up Steve's nose and

890
00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:55,199
Steve becomes aware.

891
00:44:55,559 --> 00:44:59,599
Speaker 1: Yes, and then and if you ever want it shirtless, CRAIGT. Nelson,

892
00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:01,440
you got here baby.

893
00:45:01,679 --> 00:45:04,639
Speaker 3: In his prime, in his prime, not ripped.

894
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,519
Speaker 1: It all that. Back in the day, male actor would

895
00:45:07,519 --> 00:45:09,719
take a shirt off and just look normal. Now they

896
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,239
have to like get extremely ripped.

897
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 3: Just stupid superhero movies.

898
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:21,599
Speaker 1: Yeah to us. Yeah, see how she uses her power

899
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,360
to look back in time. And basically Caine was a

900
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,000
cult leader and he predicted the end of the world

901
00:45:27,079 --> 00:45:29,920
and he locked all his followers in the cave. Then

902
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,719
the end of the world didn't happen, and he was

903
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,920
like oh, and then he wouldn't let them leave, and

904
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,960
he was all sweaty, and I thought like maybe he

905
00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:40,039
lit them on fire or something, and it looked like

906
00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:41,960
he was wearing like oil, like he was gonna burn

907
00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:44,280
all of them. But I'm not really sure what happened

908
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,880
down there. But he wouldn't let his followers leave the cave.

909
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,280
And even in death, he won't let them cross over

910
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:50,159
to the other side.

911
00:45:50,199 --> 00:45:52,039
Speaker 3: And you see in that scene there's a bunch of

912
00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:55,960
kids like no, yeah, so they couldn't go anywhere.

913
00:45:56,119 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and that's why carol An they're drawn to

914
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,960
her light. She can lead them to the light. And

915
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,519
he's like, I don't want anything to do with that.

916
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,079
We got to keep all these people under control. So

917
00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:09,480
that night the family is freaked out again and Steve

918
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:11,639
tries to cheer him up, but it doesn't work. So

919
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,559
he's like, you know what, let's get drunk. And then

920
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:19,000
he's got the little tequila bottle with the worm in it, which,

921
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,119
by the way, I had to look up what the

922
00:46:20,159 --> 00:46:21,239
whole worm thing was.

923
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 3: Really.

924
00:46:23,199 --> 00:46:25,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I knew tequila has a worm in it,

925
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,800
but I didn't know why. Do you know the why.

926
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,159
Speaker 3: If I did, I don't anymore. I just all I

927
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:38,199
just you know, tequila was always was not a premium drink, right,

928
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,519
it was just what you drank to get drunk. Yeah,

929
00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:42,000
And it was always like, ooh, if it does a

930
00:46:42,039 --> 00:46:43,000
worm in it, it's good.

931
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:43,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

932
00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 3: And then I remember, you know in my youth that

933
00:46:49,039 --> 00:46:51,079
it would have psychedelic properties.

934
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:58,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I googled that. Based off my very quick research. One,

935
00:46:58,599 --> 00:47:02,320
it's not a worm, it's actually moth larva, like a caterpillar.

936
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,039
And apparently old bottles of whiskey they would apparent, like

937
00:47:06,119 --> 00:47:08,960
I guess wherever they made them, occasionally one of those

938
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,679
would get in there, caterpillar would get into a bottle.

939
00:47:12,639 --> 00:47:15,480
But then apparently the forties and fifties they started putting

940
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,639
them in there in purpose and then telling like foreigners visitors.

941
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 2: Were like, yeah, it's the worm.

942
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,519
Speaker 1: It adds to it, but don't drink it. It doesn't

943
00:47:23,559 --> 00:47:26,880
give you psychedelic powers. And I think the people who

944
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,679
think it does, I think they just drank the whole bottle.

945
00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:36,599
Speaker 3: Before, because in this our more larvae as an ee right, yeah,

946
00:47:36,639 --> 00:47:41,599
and the eye opens wide, and I'm like, you know,

947
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,360
is that magic or is that Steve being drunk?

948
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 2: Now that was magic? Guess it turns out that that

949
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:49,679
was a magic larva.

950
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,519
Speaker 1: Yeah. The whole worm thing, it bothered me for years,

951
00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:53,840
and I finally looked it up, like I saw, like,

952
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,800
what's the two of this worm? Why did we do it?

953
00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:00,079
Speaker 3: It was you know, being of a certain age, you

954
00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:02,559
would get those right, And that would always be the thing,

955
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,719
like who gets the worm? Passing the bottle around and

956
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:09,119
trying to like, okay, are you gonna be the one

957
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:10,360
that gets the worm? Aorre you gonna be the one

958
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:11,880
that gets the worm, and then there were some people

959
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,360
that it was the most disgusting thing on the planet,

960
00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:16,920
and other people were like, I hope they get the.

961
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,119
Speaker 1: Worm now that I know it's not supposed to be

962
00:48:20,159 --> 00:48:21,719
in there, I'm mad at people who do leave the

963
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,199
worm in there, Like that's just gross. Now I'm just

964
00:48:24,199 --> 00:48:30,760
figuring a mouff larva. That's fucking disgusting. Outside, we see

965
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,000
all the ghosts walking toward the house in a cool

966
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,519
shot of like all like the specters are all smoky.

967
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:40,400
Steve gets possessed because he drank the worm and Kane

968
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,639
takes over and that's what And again he's got a

969
00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:44,480
lot of acting to do, so he's acting like the

970
00:48:44,519 --> 00:48:47,039
drunk version of his character. And now he's acting like Kane.

971
00:48:47,039 --> 00:48:48,719
He gets to be the bad guy for a bit.

972
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:55,320
He's fucking killing it in this movie. Is holy damn.

973
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,519
They even like mess with this makeup also to make

974
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:00,440
them like a little paler.

975
00:49:00,679 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 3: It looks it looks like he goes his back.

976
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: The lights fell off again. What is happening?

977
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,679
Speaker 3: It's like you and you forcoming back on?

978
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: Oh no, are you here to take me to the

979
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,639
other side?

980
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 3: Oh you weren't. You didn't know that I didn't know that.

981
00:49:19,679 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: I really wish that.

982
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 3: Funny would be if I came here and this was

983
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,159
the last podcast you got to do it, and I

984
00:49:25,199 --> 00:49:25,880
walked out.

985
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: Like there were so many movies I didn't get to.

986
00:49:30,119 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: No, boter no. So yeah, he gets creepy with Caroline.

987
00:49:36,519 --> 00:49:38,840
He's like, I need to talk to your mother alone.

988
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,760
But then he reveals what's on her mind. It's like,

989
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,480
you don't even want Caroline. You wish she was never here.

990
00:49:45,639 --> 00:49:46,760
She's like, what the fuck?

991
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he gets again, you know, something that you

992
00:49:50,599 --> 00:49:52,480
could do back in the eighties you couldn't do now.

993
00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:57,639
There's he's getting violent, right yeah, her, like in a

994
00:49:58,039 --> 00:50:04,079
sexually abusive way, and it's like, I want you. How

995
00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:05,039
come I don't get.

996
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:09,119
Speaker 1: Any He's been very aggressive, very very very and she's

997
00:50:09,159 --> 00:50:11,360
like freaked out, and then she kind of like puts

998
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,000
it together, like even at his drunkest, he wouldn't do this.

999
00:50:15,519 --> 00:50:18,320
She's like, Okay, well, there's ghosts around and I just

1000
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,199
saw someone get possessed. I'm gonna I'm gonna pretty much

1001
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,440
deduce that this is something possessing my husband. And she

1002
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,519
she does the power of love. She's like, I love you,

1003
00:50:27,559 --> 00:50:29,679
and then the power of love reminds Steve and he

1004
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:36,159
vomits out the fucking worm man. Who then it crawls

1005
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,239
underneath the bed and you hear it growing, which I

1006
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:39,159
thought was creepy.

1007
00:50:39,159 --> 00:50:42,159
Speaker 3: Wow, Look it wasn't just a worm man though. Like

1008
00:50:42,199 --> 00:50:45,639
this guy. He takes in this little two inch worm, right,

1009
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:51,039
and then he's gagging up this monster. Would you think

1010
00:50:51,199 --> 00:50:53,840
is gonna be you know, kind of long and thin,

1011
00:50:54,039 --> 00:50:56,559
and you know he never tries to pull it out.

1012
00:50:56,599 --> 00:50:58,559
That that blows me away. He stands with his arm

1013
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:03,559
his side and that thing never ends. It just it

1014
00:51:04,119 --> 00:51:07,880
just keeps going and going. It's like, you know, twice

1015
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,639
the size of Steve for what would fit in his torso.

1016
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,079
But yeah, the worm comes out and there's a face.

1017
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,119
Speaker 1: Yes, now, I think this is one of the ones

1018
00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:21,480
that hr G. Eager designed and they kind of make

1019
00:51:21,519 --> 00:51:24,480
it look like Kne's face. But they found an actual amputee.

1020
00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:26,880
I think he only has one arm and he's missing

1021
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,000
two legs and another arm. So they found an actual

1022
00:51:29,039 --> 00:51:32,000
amputee to put this suit on. And he's just wiggling

1023
00:51:32,039 --> 00:51:35,639
and stuff. It's one of the best like practical effects

1024
00:51:35,679 --> 00:51:39,159
in the movie is this worm man. It's very disturbing.

1025
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,159
But it slithers out and they're like, oh shit, it's

1026
00:51:42,199 --> 00:51:46,639
in the house. They search for the kids, and then

1027
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,079
as good as that effect was, this is when we

1028
00:51:49,159 --> 00:51:53,199
get the giant Medusa beast monster. Yes, the stop motion

1029
00:51:54,119 --> 00:51:57,079
beast monster that's poorly blue. It's bad.

1030
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,599
Speaker 3: Well I assumed that that was what came out of

1031
00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:02,480
Steve and then yeah, it crawled away and it turned

1032
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,639
into that bro right, So it was like one of

1033
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,400
like it came out and it's like one of the

1034
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,000
people in that cave trying to get out, and then

1035
00:52:13,039 --> 00:52:14,719
it seems like it's all of them.

1036
00:52:15,199 --> 00:52:19,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like all their faces are in a face

1037
00:52:19,119 --> 00:52:22,320
is in it, which is creepy. But yeah, it just

1038
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:27,239
looks bad. It looks like a really bad Medusa and

1039
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,280
it grabs Steve and thank god he inhaled that Native

1040
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,400
American smoke, Yeah, because he vomits it out and it

1041
00:52:34,599 --> 00:52:40,440
shoots it into like another plane of existence. So yeah,

1042
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,400
they're all terrified. I do like the zombies in the closet,

1043
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,239
Like the momb opens on the closet and there's all

1044
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,119
these zombies, but then it's just the stuff falling on

1045
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,320
that was really fun. They find Robbie and then they

1046
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,039
look for Caroline and this is good because she's in

1047
00:52:53,079 --> 00:52:56,360
the car. She still thinks her dad's possessed. And he's like, no,

1048
00:52:56,519 --> 00:52:59,880
look my hair is handsome now. It's not sweaty anymore.

1049
00:53:00,159 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 3: Not as pale as I was.

1050
00:53:01,519 --> 00:53:04,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, not as pale as I was ten minutes ago.

1051
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 3: Uh.

1052
00:53:05,039 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: They managed to all get in the car and then

1053
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,039
this is when like the freaking cables come to life

1054
00:53:09,079 --> 00:53:11,480
and the dog has a hero moment where it grabs

1055
00:53:11,519 --> 00:53:12,079
the cable.

1056
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,159
Speaker 3: The dog is a hero moment. We get the errant chainsaw.

1057
00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, the chainsaw comes to life and it's like chainsaw

1058
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,400
in the car, up and down, it like falls everywhere.

1059
00:53:23,519 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 3: It hits the car first and doesn't do anything right.

1060
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,199
It's it's on the car. It just you know, scratches it. Yeah,

1061
00:53:31,199 --> 00:53:34,119
and then the next thing, you know, it's cutting through

1062
00:53:35,079 --> 00:53:37,920
all parts of it. But that was where the throwback

1063
00:53:38,159 --> 00:53:41,960
was to in that scene. Is is with Carol Anne,

1064
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,920
cause it's like, why did you go to the car?

1065
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:46,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a.

1066
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 3: Taylor told me it was a safe place.

1067
00:53:49,119 --> 00:53:49,679
Speaker 1: There we go.

1068
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 3: So Taylor had, you know, he'd gotten that relationship right

1069
00:53:53,079 --> 00:53:53,559
with the car.

1070
00:53:53,639 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: He didn't magic on that car.

1071
00:53:56,079 --> 00:53:59,559
Speaker 2: The car's spirit. This is like the opposite of Christine.

1072
00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 3: This is a nice car, and we had to do

1073
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,159
the obligatory. It won't start yeah, start.

1074
00:54:06,199 --> 00:54:09,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was still mad at sea. For whatever

1075
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,400
he did put the wrong oil in it. I don't know.

1076
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:14,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1077
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,639
Speaker 1: They make it out of there finally, and then they

1078
00:54:17,679 --> 00:54:20,199
go back to their old house in the old development

1079
00:54:21,199 --> 00:54:24,880
and they go into the cave and I'm sorry, you

1080
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,760
can never pay me to get into that cave, but

1081
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,119
I love that, Like the Caroline and the mom like

1082
00:54:30,159 --> 00:54:31,719
trip and like, oh no, we're in the spirit world.

1083
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,679
It's like, oh, you just fall into it like that

1084
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,440
kind of like the New back Rooms. You can just

1085
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,679
fall into another universe.

1086
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,599
Speaker 3: Very reminiscent of that when they fall into this other universe.

1087
00:54:44,599 --> 00:54:46,320
I don't remember the name of the person. But when

1088
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,519
you were doing Poltergeist one case, yes, and life forms

1089
00:54:49,519 --> 00:54:49,960
came up.

1090
00:54:51,159 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: Life forms the movie.

1091
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 3: Like you mentioned the most life force life force, life force.

1092
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,199
Speaker 1: Yes, but this is the alien vampire, right.

1093
00:54:58,639 --> 00:55:02,159
Speaker 3: But there the lighting effects, there's a lot of that,

1094
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,000
like the light and then the light shoots down the

1095
00:55:06,199 --> 00:55:08,760
characters and goes back and you're supposed to try to

1096
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:09,599
figure this out.

1097
00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to rewatch Life for Us. It's a

1098
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:13,800
good one.

1099
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you. You got to read the book.

1100
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,679
Oh that was based off a book that's based off

1101
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,199
of Now, let me tell you the book is amazing.

1102
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 2: Is it still got a naked vampire lady from space?

1103
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,559
Speaker 3: It wasn't. It wasn't about No, it wasn't about a

1104
00:55:30,679 --> 00:55:31,440
naked vampire.

1105
00:55:31,679 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: Now.

1106
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 3: Look, I read the book probably six months before I

1107
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:36,599
saw the movie, so it.

1108
00:55:36,639 --> 00:55:37,079
Speaker 1: Was a while.

1109
00:55:38,119 --> 00:55:42,079
Speaker 3: It's been a while, but I don't remember any naked woman,

1110
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,840
you know, in the book. But I also do remember,

1111
00:55:46,039 --> 00:55:49,199
as we said earlier, going to the video store and

1112
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,400
getting it and being so excited because I liked the

1113
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,599
book so much, and me going, oh my god, what

1114
00:55:54,679 --> 00:55:55,880
a piece of gard.

1115
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 1: You were like this Patrick Stewart guy, he'll never take

1116
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:05,719
in the acting world. My friend Lena from the Beautiful

1117
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,079
Dead podcast, she recently just did Life for Us. I

1118
00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:10,159
got to do that. At some point. I've been meaning

1119
00:56:10,159 --> 00:56:14,800
to rewatch Big Boob's vampire lady. What work could you

1120
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:15,079
ask for?

1121
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, because the book is really more about aliens, yeah,

1122
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:24,840
and and draining. I just remember it being good. Now.

1123
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,000
I was a kid when I read it. But I

1124
00:56:27,039 --> 00:56:30,239
was really lucky back then because I had I lived

1125
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,760
in Queen's went to school in Manhattan, say this like

1126
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,239
two hour train ride each way. Yeah, and I would

1127
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:39,559
just read book after book, you know, paperback books. So

1128
00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:42,760
I like, I read Jaws way before the movie came out,

1129
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,239
Amityville Horror, like all that stuff, and then you would

1130
00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:52,280
go see them and you'd be like, oh, they destroyed that. Wait,

1131
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,199
Whooper lives? This is no good.

1132
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 1: Oh. I think Peter Benchley was fine with all the

1133
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,360
changes they made in Challs. He thought it was okay.

1134
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:03,519
Which funny because National Ge for the fiftieth or fiftieth anniversary.

1135
00:57:03,159 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: They sent me a bunch of Jaws stuff last year,

1136
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:06,800
and they sent me the book.

1137
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,639
Speaker 1: And in the book it has like Peter Benchley's like

1138
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,679
notes and like one of them is just all the

1139
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,320
titles they didn't use.

1140
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 2: He just has like a million titles that just didn't.

1141
00:57:16,039 --> 00:57:18,719
Speaker 1: Make it there. Yeah, the book has like the Mafia

1142
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,039
and stuff in it. I think it gets it.

1143
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,679
Speaker 2: I think the movie did a good job of eliminating

1144
00:57:23,719 --> 00:57:24,239
some stuff.

1145
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,519
Speaker 3: It's I think the only real reference, if I remember,

1146
00:57:27,559 --> 00:57:28,840
with the Mafia was.

1147
00:57:30,639 --> 00:57:33,559
Speaker 1: The police chief Rody, Yeah.

1148
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,239
Speaker 3: Was like had been a New York Yeah copy in

1149
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,440
the and there was something to do with that why

1150
00:57:39,559 --> 00:57:40,519
he was out and.

1151
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: Oh okay he was on the runnersthing.

1152
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 3: Or just like you know he wanted peace and quiet.

1153
00:57:46,679 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I should read that book. I've never actually

1154
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,239
you sat and read through the whole Jaw's book.

1155
00:57:52,239 --> 00:57:53,719
Speaker 3: I gotta do that, right, So I have to do

1156
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,760
the other part of it. Being a kid, my grandmother

1157
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:02,119
used to get Readers Digest and they were Readers Digest books, right,

1158
00:58:02,199 --> 00:58:04,800
So it was a book and it would have like

1159
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,320
four or five books in it, but they weren't the

1160
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,239
full of they were brig they're like chapters, like read

1161
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:13,599
versions of the book. And sometimes you would read them.

1162
00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:15,559
That's how I first read Jaws. And then you're like,

1163
00:58:15,679 --> 00:58:18,159
I got to read the book. And then other times

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you would read them and you'd go, I never want

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to read them.

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Speaker 2: I don't care to see how that ends.

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00:58:23,199 --> 00:58:26,079
Speaker 3: Or the worst was when you would read the Reader's

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00:58:26,119 --> 00:58:27,840
Digest and you'd say, oh, man, I can't wait to

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00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:29,119
read the book. And then you'd read the book and

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00:58:29,159 --> 00:58:32,920
you go, they had all the good parts, and.

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Speaker 1: It's like you see a movie. You're like, the good

1172
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,280
parts are in the trailer. Yeah, could have just skipped

1173
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,599
the whole movie. But where were we on this? Sorry,

1174
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,559
sometimes it's sidetracked here, I say, they fall into the

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00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:50,000
spirit world. Steve heres Taylor chanting, and he goes to

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00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,440
see what he's doing. And then a big tentacle head

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00:58:52,519 --> 00:58:55,639
comes out and it grabs Robbie and Steve and they

1178
00:58:55,760 --> 00:59:00,320
go into the other side and it looks like shitating

1179
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,599
on a glue on a blue screen. There's just like

1180
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:07,440
weird clouds behind them, and the wirework isn't even that good.

1181
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:12,480
They're like, oh, and uh, the beast shows up again

1182
00:59:12,599 --> 00:59:18,199
with Caroline looking like a Medusa thing. It's real ridiculous.

1183
00:59:18,239 --> 00:59:20,920
I love the Taylor puts the spear into the fire

1184
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:22,320
and that puts it in the spirit.

1185
00:59:23,079 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 3: Taylor's because Taylor's out back, right out of fire, and

1186
00:59:26,039 --> 00:59:26,760
Tarl's like.

1187
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: I lost them. Yeah, he throws the spirit and then

1188
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:39,639
like uh, Steve heroically spears the beast and sends it

1189
00:59:39,679 --> 00:59:43,480
into hell. I guess I don't know where it went

1190
00:59:43,679 --> 00:59:47,400
on lights. But during this Caroline gets they let go over.

1191
00:59:48,519 --> 00:59:51,440
She falls toward the light. What are they gonna do?

1192
00:59:51,519 --> 00:59:56,119
Who's gonna save them? I know, got scramdma, we'll save them.

1193
00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 3: Well, Caroline goes right, So she goes into this line.

1194
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and which is the other side?

1195
01:00:03,039 --> 01:00:07,119
Speaker 3: And so now Joe, Beth, Steve or you know, they're

1196
01:00:07,159 --> 01:00:14,159
on their wires. But the wire we've lost her and

1197
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:20,159
they're staring into this abyss of light. And what happens

1198
01:00:20,199 --> 01:00:26,159
We shadow of the right and we see Caroline coming

1199
01:00:26,199 --> 01:00:28,199
out with Grandma.

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01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:38,599
Speaker 1: The biggest robe of all. It's like she couldn't have

1201
01:00:38,719 --> 01:00:41,880
helped earlier in the movement, Like she's just giving them signals.

1202
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,639
And so wait, where was Grandma when the big tentacle

1203
01:00:44,719 --> 01:00:47,679
monster was grabbing them? She really shut up last minute,

1204
01:00:48,239 --> 01:00:48,920
bitch died?

1205
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:50,719
Speaker 3: Dare you do that?

1206
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,519
Speaker 1: But yeah, so they spear the beast, they get Caroline,

1207
01:00:56,559 --> 01:00:59,280
they go back to the real world. Uh, and everyone's

1208
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,519
happy and Jeans like the spirits have finally crossed over.

1209
01:01:03,239 --> 01:01:05,880
I guess they fouled Caroline into the light or whatever.

1210
01:01:06,679 --> 01:01:09,280
It's a big happy ending and Taylor's just like, your

1211
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,239
car still, Maddie, and I love that. Steem's like, you

1212
01:01:12,239 --> 01:01:13,360
know what, take the car.

1213
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:14,679
Speaker 3: Take the car. You can have the car.

1214
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: You could just have the car. It can be yours.

1215
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,760
It's like, oh, man, that's great. So he says goodbye

1216
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,840
to everyone. They're all happy. But as he's driving away,

1217
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,400
they realized that that was the right.

1218
01:01:24,039 --> 01:01:27,119
Speaker 3: Well yeah, the chuckling, Oh now we're gonna need a

1219
01:01:27,199 --> 01:01:27,840
ride home.

1220
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: And they just burst down the street. They're like yelling

1221
01:01:32,039 --> 01:01:38,320
at him to come down. And that was Poltergeist too. Again,

1222
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,639
they got lucky with this sequel. The next movie they

1223
01:01:40,639 --> 01:01:43,360
did not get as lucky. The next movie did not

1224
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,119
do well. Only Heather O'Rourke came back, and then she

1225
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,280
died while making well, actually, no, she died, and then

1226
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,440
they went, we need to do some reshoots with the ending,

1227
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:56,559
and the director's like, but she's dead. So the movie

1228
01:01:56,679 --> 01:01:59,639
ends with like the one lady holding Caroline but not

1229
01:01:59,679 --> 01:02:02,400
showing her face because it's clearly a whole new actress.

1230
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,960
And then Poltergeist went away, and then it came back

1231
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,000
as a remake that I still have not watched.

1232
01:02:09,119 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 3: I have not seen it either.

1233
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:11,679
Speaker 1: I'll have to do that.

1234
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:17,039
Speaker 3: But look, I mean it's not a great movie. No right, no,

1235
01:02:17,559 --> 01:02:20,360
but it's an hour and a half long. It's like

1236
01:02:21,079 --> 01:02:25,639
an hour and thirty seven minutes. I think you won't

1237
01:02:25,679 --> 01:02:28,599
feel like, oh my god, I've lost that hour in

1238
01:02:28,679 --> 01:02:29,679
thirty seven minutes.

1239
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 2: Now there's enough interesting stuff there.

1240
01:02:32,239 --> 01:02:36,519
Speaker 3: Isn't There is enough interesting stuff. And Craig T. Nelson, Yeah,

1241
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,679
I don't know why, but he does. He just does

1242
01:02:39,719 --> 01:02:40,840
a good job in it.

1243
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,159
Speaker 1: He does he I think his character just had the

1244
01:02:44,199 --> 01:02:46,840
most to do. He was the most different from the

1245
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,480
last movie. Everyone else is kind of going through the motions. Yeah,

1246
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,199
and even Tangina didn't really do anything exciting in this.

1247
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,519
Speaker 3: No, she's she talks a few she's like it's almost

1248
01:02:57,559 --> 01:03:00,760
a cameo, right, Yeah, you know, she's a door feel

1249
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,199
the pictures, but.

1250
01:03:02,199 --> 01:03:04,199
Speaker 1: You don't get the like go into the night like

1251
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,639
She's not when Taylor is helping them, she's not also

1252
01:03:07,719 --> 01:03:11,320
there yelling and giving them instructions. She's just kind of

1253
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:12,159
in the background.

1254
01:03:12,679 --> 01:03:16,519
Speaker 3: It did also feel like they really went heavy with

1255
01:03:16,559 --> 01:03:19,679
the special effects. Yeah, over the top.

1256
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,119
Speaker 1: This is when they, like, again it's eighties, the effects

1257
01:03:22,119 --> 01:03:24,440
were getting better and each sequel wanted to show how

1258
01:03:24,519 --> 01:03:26,480
much more they could do, and sometimes they got a

1259
01:03:26,519 --> 01:03:29,719
little carried away, and I think this was one of them,

1260
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,480
because again, there's there's some really great effects in here,

1261
01:03:32,519 --> 01:03:34,760
and then you get the technical monster and it's distracting

1262
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,360
from the good ones. You know.

1263
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:38,599
Speaker 3: I'm still trying to figure out how the technical monster

1264
01:03:38,719 --> 01:03:43,199
and ghosts. It's like, wait, what lot did you get

1265
01:03:43,239 --> 01:03:47,400
that from? Uh?

1266
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,159
Speaker 1: But yeah, will you be? Will you continue? Will you

1267
01:03:50,199 --> 01:03:51,719
go watch polter Geist three? Now?

1268
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,599
Speaker 2: Do you need to know how the story ends?

1269
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 3: So I will watch Poltergeist three. You don't have to,

1270
01:03:57,559 --> 01:04:00,599
but assuming but I was used to it to me

1271
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,280
and and said watch it on t B and t

1272
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,320
B has commercials, yes, And I'm like, and I have

1273
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,400
to admit, We've been talking about this for months and

1274
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:11,800
I didn't watch it till last night.

1275
01:04:12,119 --> 01:04:14,559
Speaker 1: That's okay, And I watched it. I watched it like

1276
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,480
a month ago, but I wasn't doing notes, and then

1277
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:18,840
I took my notes last night.

1278
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 3: I was telling somebody on DM last night and I said,

1279
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:22,960
I gotta watch this goddamn movie.

1280
01:04:23,039 --> 01:04:23,239
Speaker 1: You know.

1281
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:28,079
Speaker 3: Ah, but it's on YouTube on video on demand and

1282
01:04:28,119 --> 01:04:32,400
I have the premium so no captions, which was a

1283
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:37,159
little rough because there's the sound isn't great, you know,

1284
01:04:37,199 --> 01:04:38,519
it's for the.

1285
01:04:38,519 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 1: Record Toob's commercials are fine, Yeah they are.

1286
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,639
Speaker 3: They're not aggressive, right, they are. Actually I used to.

1287
01:04:44,719 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: Use Pluto and that was the worst it would play

1288
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,199
like eight commercials and then like four of them would

1289
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,639
just be the same commercial over again.

1290
01:04:53,199 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 3: You know, back in the day AMC was commercial free.

1291
01:04:57,719 --> 01:05:02,760
And then I was watching like an old Dracula movie,

1292
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,199
you know, in the old Universal movies, and like, right

1293
01:05:05,239 --> 01:05:07,519
in the middle of a sentence, yeah, they just start

1294
01:05:07,599 --> 01:05:10,400
running a car commercial and I'm like, what the hell?

1295
01:05:10,639 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: The most famous one when we did The Ring, I

1296
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,960
watched it on it was It's one of my favorite examples.

1297
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:16,480
I told the story before, but when we did the

1298
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,639
first Ring, the very opening scene where she finds her

1299
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,280
friend dead and then she gets all gray and uh

1300
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:26,360
on Pluto, it cut to like a a h Huggies

1301
01:05:26,639 --> 01:05:29,039
like niper commercial for Born to Be Wild. So it's

1302
01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:33,000
like teenage girl, die cut your baby going bod. That

1303
01:05:33,239 --> 01:05:36,079
the most ridiculous cut I've ever seen.

1304
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:40,519
Speaker 3: It's better than the Rumble ads, the what Rumble You

1305
01:05:40,519 --> 01:05:41,320
ever watch Rumble?

1306
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,679
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, I'm sure people are watching this on

1307
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:46,239
Rumble right now, schmule.

1308
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,519
Speaker 3: They don't want you to know. They are coffee as

1309
01:05:49,559 --> 01:05:53,480
harming you. You need Patriot coffee.

1310
01:05:53,719 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: I you know what, I really liked using Rumble Studio

1311
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,239
and doing those ad reads. But I could not get

1312
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,760
ten people to watch me on Rumble, so we only

1313
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,719
did a couple of them. I was enjoying, like you

1314
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,920
need your patriot gaming chair, your Patriots something.

1315
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,239
Speaker 2: I had such a good time, but my audience would

1316
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:10,039
not go to Rumble.

1317
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 3: Fine, but yeah, my helper, the guy who got me

1318
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,480
started in this, Dave Sarah. I'm always like, hey, can

1319
01:06:19,519 --> 01:06:23,519
you set up a Rumble stream for me? And he's like, yeah,

1320
01:06:23,639 --> 01:06:25,639
we can, And it's been about a year and we've

1321
01:06:25,679 --> 01:06:28,519
never gotten there. And then yesterday I was like, you

1322
01:06:28,519 --> 01:06:31,000
know what might be fun is we could watch Poltergeist

1323
01:06:31,079 --> 01:06:34,880
too on Rumble. And then I'm thinking I could watch

1324
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:36,679
it alone at home too, and it's gonna be the

1325
01:06:36,719 --> 01:06:37,159
same thing.

1326
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,119
Speaker 1: But if an ever, if an episode ever disappears from YouTube,

1327
01:06:45,199 --> 01:06:47,559
check Rumble. They're there. A lot of the missing episodes

1328
01:06:47,599 --> 01:06:52,960
are on Rumble over there, but Schmuel, I assume Rumble

1329
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:54,719
is one of them. But where can we find you?

1330
01:06:55,159 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 3: I am at Buckman, Schmuel on X and Schmuell Buckman

1331
01:07:00,079 --> 01:07:04,920
on YouTube, and my shows are Tuesday and Thursday regularly,

1332
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,920
and during the summer, I generally do a backyard stream

1333
01:07:10,239 --> 01:07:13,320
next to a fire pit in about ten o'clock on

1334
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:17,559
Saturday nights. But like subscribe and hit notifications because I

1335
01:07:17,599 --> 01:07:18,360
do pop up.

1336
01:07:18,239 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: Every now and then. Yes, yes, And they're great streams.

1337
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,039
There's never any difficulty with them.

1338
01:07:24,119 --> 01:07:24,599
Speaker 3: Not at all.

1339
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,639
Speaker 1: There's there's never been a stream where you disappeared for

1340
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,199
like twenty minutes and your guests had to carry the show.

1341
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:31,880
They're really great.

1342
01:07:32,599 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like, Notoria for screwing up.

1343
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 5: And you know what the worst part is. The worst

1344
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:45,559
part is I actually prep, so I will, I will prep.

1345
01:07:45,599 --> 01:07:51,519
This was last night, right, I prep beforehand, I.

1346
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,199
Speaker 3: Well an hour and a half before I got everything

1347
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:57,039
set everything. Oh and I do a show with quad

1348
01:07:57,079 --> 01:07:59,440
Father called What's Your Point where we argue with each

1349
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:06,000
other on Sunday afternoons and I sit down and YouTube

1350
01:08:06,039 --> 01:08:10,800
wone hook up from evmuks and it just I have.

1351
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:12,800
I don't know why you're all using ev bucks.

1352
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,119
Speaker 1: All I ever hear are complaints with complaints about ev monks.

1353
01:08:16,279 --> 01:08:19,600
Speaker 3: We all use it for one reason and one reason only. Okay, Well,

1354
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:23,159
the reason why we switched over there is because super tip.

1355
01:08:24,079 --> 01:08:27,600
They you can do a web source on evmoksh and

1356
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,359
their sort of basic their fifty dollars a month package. Yeah,

1357
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,000
and you can't do that in streaming.

1358
01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 1: That's not right. Yeah, so okay, well that makes sense.

1359
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,720
But yeah, everyone I know who uses ev box just

1360
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:41,760
keeps complaining about it.

1361
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,039
Speaker 2: I'm like, why are you guys doing?

1362
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:44,279
Speaker 1: I actually like.

1363
01:08:44,319 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 3: It better than I liked it. I don't know. It

1364
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,359
could's been a year, so I don't know. Maybe stream

1365
01:08:49,399 --> 01:08:54,000
ARD's gotten better, but I do like it better okay

1366
01:08:54,079 --> 01:08:57,439
than that, but this was not this was Look ninety

1367
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,479
nine percent of these things, or as my wife would say,

1368
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:04,479
user error. You know, it's Saturday night. I go to stream.

1369
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,199
I'm seeing my camera on you know, in the in

1370
01:09:07,239 --> 01:09:11,960
the evimuk studio. It's going great. Uh, nobody's seeing it

1371
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:16,960
on the internet. YouTube is playing, it's not there. I'm

1372
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,199
cursing it out. I use a new cable. I'm sure

1373
01:09:19,199 --> 01:09:23,439
it's the new cable. Is that I am admitting Now

1374
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,079
I didn't add myself to the scene.

1375
01:09:25,319 --> 01:09:27,520
Speaker 1: That's great. So subscribed to.

1376
01:09:29,119 --> 01:09:32,319
Speaker 3: So it's always a fun time. And even if I suck,

1377
01:09:32,359 --> 01:09:34,000
I've got the greatest chat in the biz.

1378
01:09:34,159 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: Nice and h yes like sharing. Subscribe here sign up

1379
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,960
for Patreon, even if it's at the free tier. Should

1380
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,520
go on the free tier, you get the podcast feed

1381
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:47,600
and all the free videos, better notifications than YouTube. Everything

1382
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:51,640
is there. Uh and occasionally it'll upgrade you to like

1383
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:55,119
a free trial of the paid stuff. It's really great.

1384
01:09:55,159 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 3: I pay for my stuff.

1385
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,399
Speaker 1: There you go, there you go, and I encourage it.

1386
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 3: I encourage everyone else to do that as well.

1387
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:05,640
Speaker 1: Yes, especially since I need to get a new maybe

1388
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:07,039
by the time miss Airs I have it. But I

1389
01:10:07,119 --> 01:10:08,960
have to get a new computer. Isn't that green.

1390
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:10,560
Speaker 3: Start to go fundme?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? No, I'm good. I know you dabble verse people

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really love your cofundmes. But I'm good. Uh yeah, I

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need to. I need to. My computer won't support Windows eleven.

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It's too old. I've been milking it for years. It's

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slower than it should be. And I'm just like, I'm

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not there yet. And finally my computer goes yeah, we

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can no longer update the program he used to edit.

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I'm like, well, that's it, so please Patreon dot com,

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slash act the Movies, buy a shirt at the Retrowar store.

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Book me on Cameo Cameo dot com, Slash twenty blue.

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So uh yeah, and that's it from us. Goodbye everyone,

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So long.

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Speaker 3: Guys, remember to like, comment, and subscribe. Check out our

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other videos and Patreon page. Talk in the Bow Tapes