Speaker 1: Hey everyone, and welcome to another Sasquatch Theory podcast. Tonight,
Speaker 1: we head deep into the forests of Maine, one of
Speaker 1: the most heavily wooded states in America. Our guest Jeremy,
Speaker 1: grew up hiking, camping, and spending countless hours in the wilderness.
Speaker 1: About ten years ago, while staying alone at a remote
Speaker 1: boy scout camp, he experienced something that still defies explanation.
Speaker 2: What started as.
Speaker 1: Heavy footsteps outside a cabin quickly escalated into aggressive pounding,
Speaker 1: strange woodknocks, and what sounded like a massive creature moving.
Speaker 2: Through the darkness.
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Speaker 1: counter from the state of Maine. Jeremy, Welcome the Sasquatch Theory.
Speaker 1: How are you doing.
Speaker 3: I'm doing well. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an absolute pleasure to have you on the
Speaker 1: show today. Jeremy if you would tell me a little
Speaker 1: bit about yourself, where you're from, and your experiences from
Speaker 1: the very beginning.
Speaker 3: Please, yeah, thank you for having me. My name is
Speaker 3: Jeremy and I live here in Maine, and you know,
Speaker 3: I've always been an outdoors type of person. When I
Speaker 3: was a kid, I joined the Scouting program and was
Speaker 3: a member of the Boy Scouts for a long time
Speaker 3: up until I was eighteen years old. So we were
Speaker 3: all I was doing, like camping trips, backpacking weekends, going
Speaker 3: to summer camp. We're a pretty active Scout troop. Maine
Speaker 3: has a lot to offer as far as the outdoors
Speaker 3: and hiking and camping. So I've been all over the
Speaker 3: state of Maine. You know. I've been to Baxter State
Speaker 3: Park up in the North main Woods, over in the
Speaker 3: White Mountains of western Maine, you know, Grafting Notch, the
Speaker 3: Big Alow Range, all over the state. I've been in
Speaker 3: some pretty remote areas, and Maine is pretty remote. There's
Speaker 3: about ten and a half million acres of forested land
Speaker 3: in northern Maine and it's remote. Uh. It's one of
Speaker 3: the largest unincorporated undeveloped areas in the lower forty eight states.
Speaker 3: You know, the combined forested area of Maine is almost
Speaker 3: that of the entire rest of New England. So it's
Speaker 3: the perfect environment for a creature such as a sasquatch,
Speaker 3: if you choose to believe. And so tapping back into
Speaker 3: the you know, the scouting part of my life, my
Speaker 3: encounter happened at a scout camp. There's only a handful
Speaker 3: in Maine of active scout camps. I won't out the
Speaker 3: camp and I'll spare that detail, but this camp is
Speaker 3: it's somewhere that when I was younger, I was a
Speaker 3: counselor in training. I worked there for a few years
Speaker 3: in my teens and you know, into adulthood, I kind
Speaker 3: of came back for a couple of summers and worked there.
Speaker 3: I was the rifle marit badge instructor. So I know
Speaker 3: this camp very well. You know, total months that I've
Speaker 3: spent camped out at that camp would be probably equivalent
Speaker 3: to a year. I know the camp like the back
Speaker 3: of my hand. I know the animals that you know
Speaker 3: exist in camp or or passed through. It's fixated on
Speaker 3: a lake and it's got a stream that you know,
Speaker 3: bisects the camp into two. So, uh, there was one night.
Speaker 3: This was probably about ten years ago, and it was
Speaker 3: Friday night. Camp runs from some afternoon when the Scouts
Speaker 3: arrive until they leave on Friday night after a closing campfire.
Speaker 3: And if you're an adult, you have the option to
Speaker 3: either go home and come back, you know, at the
Speaker 3: beginning of the new week, or you can stay at
Speaker 3: camp through the weekend and be you're right there for
Speaker 3: when camp starts back up. And usually I would go home,
Speaker 3: but that's like a fifty mile drive, So I decided
Speaker 3: this particular week that I was going to stay the
Speaker 3: night and through the weekend. So it's Friday night and
Speaker 3: I'm in my cabin and I say cabin for lack
Speaker 3: of a better term, and I'm trying to be nice
Speaker 3: to the boy Scouts and the camp worked at It
Speaker 3: was basically just a rickety shack, you know, no windows
Speaker 3: on aside from these screened in It's a screened in
Speaker 3: window and it has a like a flat that you
Speaker 3: gotta use this pulley system to pull up. So if
Speaker 3: you want to get in the air and you need
Speaker 3: to pull the rope, it lifts the flat. The screen
Speaker 3: keeps all the bugs out. That's what you have for
Speaker 3: a window. The door of the shack is just a
Speaker 3: you know, just a rickety door, and the only thing
Speaker 3: to lock it is like the old school hook and latch.
Speaker 3: So that's what I was staying in. So it was
Speaker 3: about midnight, and so before I get in that, I
Speaker 3: should say, for all intents and purposes, I was alone.
Speaker 3: There might have been a few people that were also
Speaker 3: staying the weekend, but it's an almost three hundred acre camp.
Speaker 3: I was pretty much alone. So it's Friday night, and
Speaker 3: I'm in my shack, you know, watching videos on my phone,
Speaker 3: trying to fall asleep. I get the light off, it's quiet,
Speaker 3: and then out of nowhere, I mean completely out of nowhere,
Speaker 3: I start hearing these noises from behind my shack. And
Speaker 3: I know camp, and I know right where that noise
Speaker 3: is coming from. It's coming from one of the merit
Speaker 3: badge areas, and it's about one hundred feet from where
Speaker 3: my cabin is. So I start hearing this just this massive, heavy, stomping, pounding.
Speaker 3: It almost sounded like whatever was making that noise was,
Speaker 3: you know, was wrestling something or fighting something. But whatever
Speaker 3: it was, my first initial thought was, Wow, whatever this is,
Speaker 3: it has to be just massive and heavy. I could
Speaker 3: hear and feel the reverberations. That's with how much force
Speaker 3: whatever was back there was was hitting the ground. So
Speaker 3: I thought that was weird, you know, and and all
Speaker 3: the normal things go through your rational mind. This could
Speaker 3: be a bear, It could be a moose or another
Speaker 3: member of the deer family, you know. So I was
Speaker 3: a little bit alarmed, and so I turned my light on,
Speaker 3: and I thought that, you know, jice, whatever is back there,
Speaker 3: it's big, it's massive, you know. I threw the latch
Speaker 3: on my door, and just to act as a detern,
Speaker 3: you know, the light on. You know, if it was
Speaker 3: a bear, I figured it would see that there was
Speaker 3: somebody there, and it might scurrying along and insame with
Speaker 3: a you know, a moose or or a deer. They
Speaker 3: generally like to avoid people. But it continued, and it
Speaker 3: it got, you know, progressively louder and more aggressive sounding,
Speaker 3: just this stomping and thrashing. But it got weirder, you know.
Speaker 3: I at one point I thought that I heard something
Speaker 3: land in front of my cabin. It's all pine needles
Speaker 3: and dirt. You know, when you when you throw on
Speaker 3: thing and it lands on pine needles and dirt, it's
Speaker 3: kind of a soft landing, and I swear I heard
Speaker 3: something land in front of my cabin. And you know,
Speaker 3: at that point, I'm thinking, you know, it's probably somebody
Speaker 3: playing a joke on me. You know, somebody's out there.
Speaker 3: They're trying to pull them over on me. So I
Speaker 3: just kind of sat there. I didn't want to make
Speaker 3: any noise. I didn't want if there was somebody out
Speaker 3: there playing a joke. I didn't want them thinking that
Speaker 3: they got they got me. You know, I'll just ignore it,
Speaker 3: it'll stop, it'll go away. But it didn't stop. It
Speaker 3: progressed to something that really kind of freaked me out.
Speaker 3: If you you know, as a young boy, you know
Speaker 3: we're we're in the woods, and you know we do
Speaker 3: things like with one thing that every boy has done
Speaker 3: has gone out in the woods, you know, taking a
Speaker 3: stick and whacked it on a tree, and you know
Speaker 3: it's fun, but it also makes a very distinct sound.
Speaker 3: And and that's why I started to hear it was
Speaker 3: as if somebody took a big stick and whacked it
Speaker 3: up against the tree. And it was always it was
Speaker 3: two knocks, you know, one two, and then there would
Speaker 3: be some more thrashing some more stomping, and then you
Speaker 3: know again one two, you know, whack whack, and again
Speaker 3: I'm thinking bear moose. You know, maybe it's a couple
Speaker 3: of buck deer fighting, but you know that would make
Speaker 3: more of kind of like a rattle type of sound.
Speaker 3: This was crisp and clear, whack whack, and you know
Speaker 3: again I'm thinking, maybe someone's playing a joke on me.
Speaker 3: But it got weirder, and this is where I knew
Speaker 3: that this wasn't a person playing a joke on me.
Speaker 3: The camp is cut in two by I'm gonna call
Speaker 3: it a river because its official name is a river.
Speaker 3: It's a wide stream of gentle flowing water and it
Speaker 3: goes it cuts camp in two and it empties into
Speaker 3: the lake. But where we are on that river, it's murky,
Speaker 3: it's kind of slimy. It's home to a nasty snapping turtle.
Speaker 3: Nobody goes in the water there. The running joke is
Speaker 3: that's worth negative ten showers if you jump in the
Speaker 3: river there, it's you know, you get a shower like
Speaker 3: ten times. Nobody goes in there for a swim. You
Speaker 3: go swim in the lake. There's also a footbridge if
Speaker 3: anybody wants to cross to the other side of the camp,
Speaker 3: you walk across the bridge. So imagine my shock and
Speaker 3: surprise when at midnight I hear this gigantic splash and
Speaker 3: I know that whatever was back behind my cabin had
Speaker 3: just jumped into this river. And I can hear it
Speaker 3: swimming across. I can hear the water ripples, I can
Speaker 3: hear it, and I'm like, oh, okay, that's nobody I
Speaker 3: know was jumping in there. This This is obviously an animal.
Speaker 3: But I continued to hear that knocking sound from the
Speaker 3: other side of the camp, and it kept getting progressively
Speaker 3: further and further away, and it was always two knocks
Speaker 3: at a time, and so it was moving further and
Speaker 3: further away. And again, I know camp. I know this
Speaker 3: camp very well, I know the area very well. I
Speaker 3: could tell based on the knocks that whatever this was
Speaker 3: it was following the shoreline of the lake. And eventually
Speaker 3: the knocking became so faint. It had moved so far
Speaker 3: away that I could not hear it anymore. And then
Speaker 3: eventually I went to sleep, and yeah, that's that's what
Speaker 3: happened to.
Speaker 2: Me, all right.
Speaker 1: Jeremy, thank you very much for sharing your experiences with men.
Speaker 1: They certainly sound terrifying. It sounds like this creature was
Speaker 1: being aggressive and territorial. Why do you think it was
Speaker 1: doing a succession of two rapid wooden knocks?
Speaker 2: What do you think that means?
Speaker 3: Well, I've had a lot of time to think about
Speaker 3: why it could have been doing that, and you know,
Speaker 3: I'm trying to put myself in that animal's position. Why
Speaker 3: would I be making a tree knock? You know, what
Speaker 3: possible reasons could I have for doing that? And I
Speaker 3: almost think that it was a form of communication. Either
Speaker 3: it was communicating to me, I think, or it could
Speaker 3: have been potentially communicating with another sasquatch.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, yeah, I would agree with that.
Speaker 1: It sounds like there were others in the area and
Speaker 1: the klan was moving through the cabin that you were staying.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's a good thing that you put yourself
Speaker 1: in that position to kind of ponder as to why
Speaker 1: the creature would have been doing that. And maybe maybe
Speaker 1: it was doing it because it just wanted to let
Speaker 1: you know, like, hey, I'm here, I'm moving through the area.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to just sneak through there and possibly
Speaker 1: startle you, like it warned you to know it was there.
Speaker 3: Sure, and you know, I absolutely believe that, you know,
Speaker 3: they are both nomadic and that they also have a territory.
Speaker 3: And like what you just said, I do think that
Speaker 3: this particular sasquatch was moving through my area. But I
Speaker 3: also get the feeling that, you know, this one might
Speaker 3: not have been so benevolent. I think this one was aggressive,
Speaker 3: you know, just based on the noises that it was making.
Speaker 3: I definitely got the feeling that whatever was out there
Speaker 3: was aggressive and it could potentially harm me. But again,
Speaker 3: I do think that when it realized, I wanted to
Speaker 3: make itself known.
Speaker 1: Yeah, are there people usually staying in that cabin or
Speaker 1: was it vacant for a while before you happen to
Speaker 1: stay there?
Speaker 3: So it was only inhabited by me. You know, when
Speaker 3: you go work at this camp, you're assigned a cabin
Speaker 3: and that's your cabin for the entire summer. Some people
Speaker 3: bunk with multiple people, but this particular summer, in my cabin,
Speaker 3: it was just me, and I was fine with that.
Speaker 3: You know, it's I'm a I'm a grown man, and
Speaker 3: you know, I'd like to have my own cabin to myself.
Speaker 3: So that was fine. But on this particular night, I
Speaker 3: kind of wish that I had had a cabin mate,
Speaker 3: someone that could have shared that experience with me, because
Speaker 3: I'm sure, as you know, when you when you tell
Speaker 3: somebody that you have an experience like that and there's
Speaker 3: nobody to witness it, and you don't have audio or video,
Speaker 3: there's no you can't embroider a story enough to make
Speaker 3: them truly believe you. So in this case, I wish
Speaker 3: I had had somebody there with me.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: And I definitely understand the isolating feeling of having an
Speaker 1: experience like this and nobody else around to validated. But
Speaker 1: you know, it happened, and that's all that matters. What
Speaker 1: time of year did this encounter happen where there's certain
Speaker 1: things growing in the forest, like mushrooms, berries, where the
Speaker 1: fish abundant there this time of year, Why do you
Speaker 1: think the creature was around?
Speaker 3: Well, so you know, again, mainhas an abundance of small
Speaker 3: game animals, there's no shortage of berries, there's no shortage
Speaker 3: of fish, you know, for you know conter verus animals.
Speaker 3: This was in late July or early August. I think
Speaker 3: I think it was late July, but somewhere right around there.
Speaker 3: So really that's the height of the summer. You know,
Speaker 3: all your berries of are in full bloom there, rutful blackberries,
Speaker 3: red raspberries, blueberries. You know, the only thing that grows
Speaker 3: as far as that at this camp would be black
Speaker 3: and blackberries and raspberries. There's no blueberries, you know, but
Speaker 3: there is Again, there's there's a body of water, and
Speaker 3: there's multiple bodies of water, and uh, there is a
Speaker 3: deer population as well. So I do think the combination
Speaker 3: of the deer population there in the body of water.
Speaker 3: I think that's important because in almost every sasquatch experience
Speaker 3: that I've heard and listened to, those two things have
Speaker 3: to be present a you know, a food source and
Speaker 3: a water source, and this camp had both.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, that makes sense. And there is a ton
Speaker 1: of forest in Maine. It's the most heavily forested state
Speaker 1: in the United States, with roughly eighty nine to ninety
Speaker 1: percent of land being covered by trees. And yeah, you
Speaker 1: were in the perfect spot. There's water, there's food, it's
Speaker 1: an isolated area, it's a perfect time of year when
Speaker 1: things are growing and abundant. And yeah, it sounds like
Speaker 1: you caught You got caught in between this creature and
Speaker 1: where it wanted to go.
Speaker 3: Well. And you know, another thought about this encounter that
Speaker 3: I've had time to think about is that it may
Speaker 3: have been it may have been killing you know something,
Speaker 3: It might have been killing a small game animal or
Speaker 3: the year, you know, for food. That I've given that
Speaker 3: thought as well, because, like I said, it sounded like
Speaker 3: it could have even been wrestling something to the ground.
Speaker 3: So I think that could be possibility of why this
Speaker 3: particular night I heard this. But I'll add a little
Speaker 3: context to this story by saying that I had another
Speaker 3: incident that summer that I had never had happen. There
Speaker 3: was one particular night where, you know, I had gone
Speaker 3: up to the head of the road to smoke a
Speaker 3: cigarette and you know, no flashlight. You know, it was
Speaker 3: I was walking along the camp road, I know, like
Speaker 3: the back of my hands. So I'm walking back in
Speaker 3: the camp and it's me and my buddy and out
Speaker 3: of nowhere we can hear from our left side just this,
Speaker 3: you know, beating feet like it sounded like a horse
Speaker 3: galloping through the woods. And it's pit's black. I cannot
Speaker 3: see a thing except for the dirt on the road
Speaker 3: in front of us, and it's coming right for us.
Speaker 3: And all I did was I, you know, kind of
Speaker 3: braced and I took a step back. And whatever was
Speaker 3: running through the woods, it ran either directly behind me
Speaker 3: or in front of me. And what I think was
Speaker 3: happening was I think that a deer was being chased
Speaker 3: by a predator, because it was clearly four feet, you know,
Speaker 3: four It sounded like four hoofed feet, like a horse
Speaker 3: galloping through the woods, and you know, definitely a member
Speaker 3: of the deer family. But if you ever walk up
Speaker 3: on a deer, they run away. They'll stand there, they'll
Speaker 3: look at you, and then you know, after a minute
Speaker 3: they're gone. They they don't run towards you. They can
Speaker 3: smell you, they can see you. So I believe I
Speaker 3: was almost trampled to death by a large deer that
Speaker 3: might just might just have been running away from whatever
Speaker 3: I heard and had an encounter with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very well could have been.
Speaker 1: Is that the same area that you had the experience
Speaker 1: at the same campgrounds.
Speaker 3: Yes, yep, it was the same summer. And I can't,
Speaker 3: for the life of me remember if it was before
Speaker 3: or after I had my what I believe was a
Speaker 3: sasquatch experience. I can't distinguish if it was before or after,
Speaker 3: but it was the same summer, and it was the
Speaker 3: same camp, and it was the same general area of camp.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, so they could have possibly been around in
Speaker 1: the area hunting deer. Did you notice a lot of
Speaker 1: deer in that area before the strange experiences?
Speaker 3: Sure? Yeah, Like I said, you know, Maine in general,
Speaker 3: but specifically this camp had a pretty healthy population of deer.
Speaker 3: You know, so I definitely I saw a lot of
Speaker 3: deer working there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it definitely makes sense. And deer will usually
Speaker 1: go out into people's yards and expose themselves to people
Speaker 1: that they're being pursued by predators.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And you know main, you know, we don't have
Speaker 3: a shortage of predatory animals in this state. You know,
Speaker 3: bear predatory, we have Canada links, we have bobcat. But
Speaker 3: given the context of what I experienced and what I
Speaker 3: believe was a sasquatch, it really eliminates any nuance for
Speaker 3: me about the night where I was almost trampled by
Speaker 3: something thing. Given the experience I had, I do I
Speaker 3: firmly believe that a deer being chased by a sasquatch
Speaker 3: almost trampled me. And you know that might seem a
Speaker 3: little bit comical, but in hindsight, it's it's frightening. You know.
Speaker 3: Both experiences to me were very frightening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: And you know people will ask the obvious question, well, hey,
Speaker 3: why didn't you record it? Why didn't you get a
Speaker 3: video or record? And quite honestly, I wish I had.
Speaker 3: I wish I had recorded. It would have been too
Speaker 3: easy because I had my phone. I was watching videos
Speaker 3: as this happen, when this happened, But the thought to
Speaker 3: do that never crossed my mind because of how afraid
Speaker 3: I was. I was more focused on what the heck
Speaker 3: is this thing? What is making this noise? What is
Speaker 3: doing this? And you know, the sense of being in
Speaker 3: danger kind of took over, and the thought never crossed
Speaker 3: my mind. And unless someone's in an experience where they've
Speaker 3: been truly terrified, they'll probably never think that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that.
Speaker 1: And it definitely does sound like sasquatch activity. I don't
Speaker 1: know an animal that big that will would knock, And yeah,
Speaker 1: it sounds like it was angry and possibly chasing deer.
Speaker 1: And what did the stomping sound like when you initially
Speaker 1: heard the noises. Do you think it was like just
Speaker 1: walking or like ground stomping. What are your thoughts about that?
Speaker 3: Well, Uh, I think that it was doing a little
Speaker 3: bit of everything. There was definitely some ground stomping, but
Speaker 3: it also sounds again like it was wrestling something to
Speaker 3: the ground, you know. And again this it came out
Speaker 3: of nowhere. I mean, this was I didn't hear anything
Speaker 3: approaching it, just you know, out of nowhere. I started
Speaker 3: to hear just this massive stomping on the ground and
Speaker 3: I just remember thinking that whatever this is is massive.
Speaker 3: It has to weigh hundreds and hundreds of pounds to
Speaker 3: make that type of pounding, and you know, to the
Speaker 3: point where I could feel it, I could I could
Speaker 3: feel the reverberations, you know. So it it was definitely
Speaker 3: doing a lot of ground pounding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it could have been that they were coordinating
Speaker 1: a hunt, working together, pushing deer into a trap, or
Speaker 1: they were just pissed off that you were there.
Speaker 3: It's hard to say it really, Yeah, And you know,
Speaker 3: I've thought that too, because usually on the weekends at
Speaker 3: this camp, there's really nobody there. So they could have
Speaker 3: been banking on the fact that, hey, we're going to
Speaker 3: have access to, you know, our food, uninhibited by the
Speaker 3: people that are usually here. That certainly could be a possibility.
Speaker 3: But you know, the more I've thought about it, I
Speaker 3: really do think that this Sasquatch and potentially the others
Speaker 3: that may have been with it, I think they were
Speaker 3: just moving through because I had never heard anything like
Speaker 3: that before or since at that camp or anywhere for
Speaker 3: that matter. That was a one off situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like you said earlier, you tried to put
Speaker 1: yourself in the Sasquatch's mine and viewing it from his perspective,
Speaker 1: and as a hunter, I will plan my hunts. I'll
Speaker 1: look at a map, and finally I get out there,
Speaker 1: and if somebody else is occupying that area or someone
Speaker 1: else shows up, I kind of panic.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1: I potentially evaluate should I leave the area, should I
Speaker 1: move somewhere else? And it bothers me when I go
Speaker 1: to a remote area and someone shows up on a
Speaker 1: four wheeler or just walks through the field that I'm hunting,
Speaker 1: whether they're just hiking in the area or just exploring,
Speaker 1: It's like, well, now they walk through the area, there's
Speaker 1: sent all over the place. What am I going to
Speaker 1: do and it kind of upsets me a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing I can do about it, obviously, but.
Speaker 3: I feel like the sasqu Public land.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like the Sasquatch and your situation had
Speaker 1: the same mindset. They're like, we're going to go down
Speaker 1: to the shoreline. We're gonna look for clams, fish, chase
Speaker 1: deer or whatever. And when they get there, they're like,
Speaker 1: oh man, someone's here. This completely messes up our plans
Speaker 1: and they kind of let you.
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, and again, totally possible that that was what
Speaker 3: was going on, given everything that happened, and yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: I hunt as well, and it frustrates me, like you
Speaker 3: just said, when there's somebody else there and you know,
Speaker 3: whether it's they walk through to get to their spot
Speaker 3: or you know, you know, you hear them take their
Speaker 3: shot at their deer, it is upsetting, you know. So
Speaker 3: there's there's a bunch of possibilities for what really is
Speaker 3: the reason why they were there on that particular night.
Speaker 3: But whatever the reason was, they were there, they were
Speaker 3: just there. And I was in the right area at
Speaker 3: the right time, and I encountered something truely spectacular, and
Speaker 3: I might go the rest of my life never experiencing
Speaker 3: anything like that again. But I'll remember it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: It's a memorable experience and you'll never forget about it.
Speaker 1: And you wouldn't have contacted the Sasquatch Theory podcast if
Speaker 1: you didn't think it was sasquatch. And from what you
Speaker 1: told me, I definitely feel like it's bigfoot activity. And
Speaker 1: have you went back to the area to try to
Speaker 1: recreate that situation or look around for tree structures, tracks,
Speaker 1: or any any evidence that the creature was around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the next day I did go out and
Speaker 3: I looked in the immediate area. The problem that I
Speaker 3: encountered was that with it being a very well used camp,
Speaker 3: you know, there's hundreds of campers there every week, plus staff,
Speaker 3: the ground is all pine needles and dirt, and it
Speaker 3: was really difficult for me to tell what was potentially
Speaker 3: this animal, this sasquatch, versus what's beend, you know, the
Speaker 3: normal wear and tear on the paths and the camping
Speaker 3: areas and such. So after doing a little bit of
Speaker 3: investigating the next day, I really didn't find anything out
Speaker 3: of the ordinary. There are a lot of lean to
Speaker 3: structures that get built by campers at this camp. So again,
Speaker 3: that was another thing where, you know, if I were
Speaker 3: to look out and see a emergency shelter or a
Speaker 3: little lean to with you know, some sticks and brush,
Speaker 3: that wouldn't be out of the ordinary, but it would
Speaker 3: be hard to distinguish.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people in the comments have
Speaker 1: experiences just like yours, and they don't feel like it's
Speaker 1: important to report it on the channel, and they're just like,
Speaker 1: it's not really that big of a deal. I didn't
Speaker 1: see one, But I feel like they are important because
Speaker 1: later on someone might have a face to face encounter
Speaker 1: in that same area, and I can be like, look,
Speaker 1: this guy named Jeremy shared his experience from the same area,
Speaker 1: and it definitely helps. In the past, I've had multiple
Speaker 1: people from like Humboldt County, California, or Hayward, Wisconsin share experiences,
Speaker 1: and later on more people report strange things happening in
Speaker 1: the same area, and I can direct them towards those
Speaker 1: podcasts and it really makes them feel a lot better.
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, more people are contacting
Speaker 1: me with similar experiences, and after a while we can
Speaker 1: kind of put together the data and be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a.
Speaker 3: Hot spot exactly, and you know it's creating a database.
Speaker 3: The more, like you said, the more people that comfortable
Speaker 3: to come out and share their experience, the more information
Speaker 3: we're going to have. And you are right that, you know,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be coming on and talking to you and
Speaker 3: putting my name out there and knowing what the stigma
Speaker 3: is if this just never happened. You know, why would
Speaker 3: somebody you know, put themselves in that position where they're
Speaker 3: going to be ridiculed or laughed at. And I've posed
Speaker 3: that same question, you know, to main guide forums on
Speaker 3: Facebook here in Maine. Hey, if if someone has an experience,
Speaker 3: please send me a message. I'd love to talk about it.
Speaker 3: And people are hesitant to, but there are more people
Speaker 3: out there that have had experiences that they just they're
Speaker 3: afraid that it will ruin their reputation. But you're right
Speaker 3: that talking about it it makes you feel good and
Speaker 3: also it encourages other people to come forward.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. And the skeptics are brutal out there.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of haters when it comes to people
Speaker 1: talking about their experiences, but the truth is they weren't
Speaker 1: there and yeah, I get that all time with the channel,
Speaker 1: people just being angry, like, show me proof, show me
Speaker 1: a photo, show me some evidence. There's zero evidence, and
Speaker 1: I'll post like possible tree structures and people say, there's
Speaker 1: zero evidence that bigfoot made that structure. And my argument is,
Speaker 1: show me proof that they didn't, like how.
Speaker 2: Do you know?
Speaker 3: Right, exactly? How do you know? And also they're not
Speaker 3: the ones that are out there, you know, uh, researching
Speaker 3: or investigating and coming across these things in the environment.
Speaker 3: They're you know, at home listening to it or hearing
Speaker 3: about it, and you know, being out there in experience.
Speaker 3: It is totally different than hearing an anecdotal story.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: It's the people that don't have any experiences, any encounters
Speaker 1: that are advocating that there's no sasquatch out there. But yeah, again,
Speaker 1: show me proof that bigfoot doesn't exist, because there's thousands
Speaker 1: and thousands and thousands of eyewitnesses and people that have
Speaker 1: found strange things and have heard things that they know
Speaker 1: is no natural animal out there. And yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like there's more evidence showing that bigfoot does exist.
Speaker 3: I completely agree. And you know, we know that there
Speaker 3: are bear You said, you're an avid hunter. You're probably
Speaker 3: more experienced than hunting than I am. I know, there's
Speaker 3: black bear and mean have I and all the time
Speaker 3: that I've been camping and hiking, I have never come
Speaker 3: across a black beard. I've never seen a black bear
Speaker 3: in the wild. Yeah, but they're there, But they're there,
Speaker 3: So you know, apply that same line of thinking to
Speaker 3: a sasquatch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that blows my mind because I've never seen
Speaker 1: a black bear in the wild, and I've never seen
Speaker 1: a mountain lion in the wild, and I've seen a
Speaker 1: handful of sasquatch, So to me, sasquatch are more common
Speaker 1: than black bears and mountain lions exactly.
Speaker 3: Yep. Experience is perception, mh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I completely understand the skeptics. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: something you got to see or experience to believe. But
Speaker 1: still you got to remain open minded because there's a
Speaker 1: lot more woods out there than what people would like
Speaker 1: to believe. They're living in a box and believing what
Speaker 1: media is telling them.
Speaker 3: Of course, and again, you know, you had an episode
Speaker 3: a while ago where there were some encounters in Idaho,
Speaker 3: and Idaho is similar to the northern main Woods as
Speaker 3: far as total land mass that is like unincorporated and undeveloped,
Speaker 3: and you really don't know what could be in the
Speaker 3: middle of all this unincorporated, unorganized and undeveloped forest. I
Speaker 3: mean there, they're so massive, there could be anything in
Speaker 3: there and you and you'll never know because most people
Speaker 3: never go there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that.
Speaker 1: There's a ton of woods in Idaho, especially if you
Speaker 1: stretched out all the mountains like there would just be
Speaker 1: so much land.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yep, yep.
Speaker 1: So what do you think the Sasquatch are? What do
Speaker 1: you think these beings are?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I don't know. I've heard innumerable theories,
Speaker 3: as have yourself, but I really don't know what they
Speaker 3: could be. I'm going to apply the Aukham's razor theory
Speaker 3: and just say that the simplest explanation is often true.
Speaker 3: I think they're in ape like creature that is bipedal
Speaker 3: and it bleeds, it's flesh and blood. And I think it,
Speaker 3: you know, might be a megafauna that it could be
Speaker 3: remnant of the Ice Age main and I mean northern
Speaker 3: United States. We were all covered in ice glaciers really
Speaker 3: not that long ago in history, and you know, so
Speaker 3: I think that it's a bipedal, flesh and blood ape
Speaker 3: like creature that could be left over from the Ice Age,
Speaker 3: but I have no idea. Until we find a body
Speaker 3: of one and can examine it, we can't say with certainty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that, and I do feel like
Speaker 1: sasquatch is a creature from the Ice Age, and the
Speaker 1: features really match a lot of animals that existed in
Speaker 1: that time as far as like the Willie rhino or
Speaker 1: the willy mammoth. And I feel like since they're able
Speaker 1: to like deroot full sized trees, they were able to
Speaker 1: hunt big animals such as like willy mammoths and creatures
Speaker 1: that existed back then.
Speaker 3: Of course, I mean we did as human like as
Speaker 3: you know, our species, we did, so why wouldn't a
Speaker 3: larger specie you know, like us, be able to I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: I agree, I completely agree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that body mass is designed for really really
Speaker 1: cold weather. I think the smaller you are, the quicker
Speaker 1: the body he leaves the body, but when you're that big,
Speaker 1: it's able to trap the body heat. And yeah, it
Speaker 1: seems like they've evolved to live in our day and age,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it doesn't stop a sasquatch. It doesn't need
Speaker 1: to be cold outside for them to exist.
Speaker 3: No, certainly not. And you know, you kind of breeze.
Speaker 3: Another area of this topic where there are different archetypes.
Speaker 3: I believe the ones that exist in the northern United
Speaker 3: States and up into Canada, I think those are, you know,
Speaker 3: the larger of the species. They need to be bigger,
Speaker 3: they need to be able to you know, generate body heat.
Speaker 3: And I think the ones that are exist in the
Speaker 3: southern United States are smaller. You know, it's hotter down there.
Speaker 3: They don't need as much hair or fur, they don't
Speaker 3: need to be so big. So I think it depends
Speaker 3: on where in the country. And we're on the continent,
Speaker 3: really you are. But yeah, I would say that the
Speaker 3: bigger sasquatch exists in the northern half of the of
Speaker 3: the continent. And you know, based on my experience listening
Speaker 3: to the sounds that this was making, you know, close
Speaker 3: to me, I would I would say, yeah, they're massive.
Speaker 3: They are. They can be incredibly massive.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure. And it's cool.
Speaker 1: You got to witness the sasquatch potentially on a hunt
Speaker 1: and the rapid two wood knocks and succession moving throughout
Speaker 1: the area and you can hear it far off in
Speaker 1: the distance. It sounds like they're pushing something away. It
Speaker 1: sounded like, from what you describe, you could hear something
Speaker 1: struggling or like, I don't know, like ground stomping, like
Speaker 1: they were chasing something. So that's possibly what was happening.
Speaker 1: It is hard to really say, but I think they.
Speaker 2: Were hunting well.
Speaker 3: And do you mind if I ask you a question.
Speaker 2: Miguil, Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3: Now I've had time to also think about that knocking sound,
Speaker 3: and you know, in order for it to have moved
Speaker 3: so far away and to make such a loud knocking sound,
Speaker 3: it would have had to have been a really durable, sturdy,
Speaker 3: strong stick or tree. You know, they can rip up
Speaker 3: a tree and use that, but it would have had
Speaker 3: to have been incredibly durable. Because of how far away
Speaker 3: it was and how easily I could still hear the knocking.
Speaker 3: Do you believe that it could be either knocking or clapping,
Speaker 3: because I've heard people mentioned clapping as the knocking sound.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could have been. It used a stick and
Speaker 1: it was beaten a tree. It was mouth popping or
Speaker 1: clapping or even hitting its chest. It's really hard to say,
Speaker 1: a lot of people speculate whether they do the Knox
Speaker 1: as a form of echolocation, and yeah, I think any
Speaker 1: of those theories are plausible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree. And again, until we find a
Speaker 3: specimen and can bring one in, we'll never know, you know,
Speaker 3: until that happens, we can only speculate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: And it's hard to really know what these creatures are
Speaker 1: up to because they've evolved physically and spiritually, and humans
Speaker 1: are evolving just physically through technology. And I think we've
Speaker 1: lost touch with our spiritual side. And they don't need
Speaker 1: a car, they don't need a house, they don't need
Speaker 1: a fire, and their ways are much different than ours.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and and again, you know, you're kind
Speaker 3: of touching on it, you know, with with that comment
Speaker 3: that they might have developed different senses than us. You know,
Speaker 3: they they could have the ability to, you know, sense
Speaker 3: since your camera or your technology. You know, they definitely
Speaker 3: have a better sense of smell, you know, if they
Speaker 3: if they don't have some type of infrasound, they definitely
Speaker 3: have the ability to to smell far better than us,
Speaker 3: you know, and whether that's they're smelling the material that
Speaker 3: your camera is made out of work. They're smelling you
Speaker 3: similar to other animals that we know, like a bear
Speaker 3: or members of the deer family. They can smell really well,
Speaker 3: almost like a dog. So that could be one of
Speaker 3: the reasons why we've yet to bring one in and
Speaker 3: why people haven't been able to really get a good
Speaker 3: quality video or image.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that, and their senses are
Speaker 1: truly out of this world.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Jeremy, I think you did an excellent job
Speaker 1: at documenting your experience and I appreciate you for reporting
Speaker 1: it on the channel, And if you encounter anything else
Speaker 1: in the future, definitely feel free to reach out.
Speaker 2: I'd love to hear about.
Speaker 3: It, absolutely, you know, I'd love to be able to
Speaker 3: experience something else. But we'll see and feel free to
Speaker 3: come to mean anytime.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. And if you go back out into
Speaker 1: the wilderness, just be careful because we don't know what
Speaker 1: these things are. There's many claims where people know exactly
Speaker 1: what they are, what planet they came from, or if
Speaker 1: they're good, if they're bad, And yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: if any of that's true, but I do know they're
Speaker 1: out there and it seems to be unpredictable. There's good
Speaker 1: ones and there's bad ones, of course, so just be
Speaker 1: careful and mindful of all that. Thank you for joining
Speaker 1: us on another episode of Sasquatch Theory. Jeremy's experiences raise
Speaker 1: some interesting questions. What was creating the heavy impacts outside
Speaker 1: the cabin, what was making the repeated wood knocks along
Speaker 1: the shoreline, and what large creature was racing through the
Speaker 1: darkness toward him and his friend that summer night. As always,
Speaker 1: I'll leave that up to you to decide what Jeremy encountered.
Speaker 1: But Jeremy knows what he experienced, and I'm sure he's
Speaker 1: thought about it over and over again, did some research
Speaker 1: on it, came across a lot of bigfoot experiences that
Speaker 1: match up with what he experienced, and came across my
Speaker 1: channel and decided to come attack me. So I think
Speaker 1: we all know what's going on out there. Of course,
Speaker 1: skeptics will say that was just a moose, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. Mooses don't would knock like that, and it
Speaker 1: seems to line up with bigfoot activity. If you've experienced
Speaker 1: something unusual in the woods, seeing a crypto creature, or
Speaker 1: have a story you'd like to share, send me an
Speaker 1: email some time at Sasquatch Theory at outlook dot com.
Speaker 1: Until next time, stay safe, keep searching for the truth,
Speaker 1: and I'll see you on the next episode of Sasquatch Theory.