WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.280 --> 00:00:09.039 Hey everyone, and welcome to another Sasquatch Theory podcast. Tonight, 2 00:00:09.080 --> 00:00:11.880 we head deep into the forests of Maine, one of 3 00:00:11.919 --> 00:00:15.839 the most heavily wooded states in America. Our guest Jeremy, 4 00:00:15.919 --> 00:00:20.079 grew up hiking, camping, and spending countless hours in the wilderness. 5 00:00:20.760 --> 00:00:23.679 About ten years ago, while staying alone at a remote 6 00:00:23.719 --> 00:00:28.519 boy scout camp, he experienced something that still defies explanation. 7 00:00:29.480 --> 00:00:30.359 What started as. 8 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:35.200 Heavy footsteps outside a cabin quickly escalated into aggressive pounding, 9 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:40.200 strange woodknocks, and what sounded like a massive creature moving. 10 00:00:39.960 --> 00:00:41.200 Through the darkness. 11 00:00:42.240 --> 00:00:45.320 If you enjoy listening to Sasquatch Theory like the video, 12 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:47.960 subscribe to the channel, and if you have a bigfoot 13 00:00:48.039 --> 00:00:49.960 or Crypti encounter that you would like to share with 14 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:52.479 me here on the channel, feel free to reach out 15 00:00:52.479 --> 00:00:56.560 sometime at Sasquatch Theory at outlook dot com. With all 16 00:00:56.560 --> 00:01:00.000 that being said, let's dive straight into our next bigfooting 17 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:19.719 counter from the state of Maine. Jeremy, Welcome the Sasquatch Theory. 18 00:01:19.719 --> 00:01:20.319 How are you doing. 19 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:22.840 I'm doing well. Thank you for having me. 20 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:24.920 Yeah, it's an absolute pleasure to have you on the 21 00:01:24.920 --> 00:01:27.319 show today. Jeremy if you would tell me a little 22 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:30.480 bit about yourself, where you're from, and your experiences from 23 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:31.159 the very beginning. 24 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:35.200 Please, yeah, thank you for having me. My name is 25 00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:41.480 Jeremy and I live here in Maine, and you know, 26 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:47.079 I've always been an outdoors type of person. When I 27 00:01:47.120 --> 00:01:50.519 was a kid, I joined the Scouting program and was 28 00:01:50.719 --> 00:01:54.680 a member of the Boy Scouts for a long time 29 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:59.840 up until I was eighteen years old. So we were 30 00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:06.560 all I was doing, like camping trips, backpacking weekends, going 31 00:02:06.599 --> 00:02:13.360 to summer camp. We're a pretty active Scout troop. Maine 32 00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:15.960 has a lot to offer as far as the outdoors 33 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:20.080 and hiking and camping. So I've been all over the 34 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:25.919 state of Maine. You know. I've been to Baxter State 35 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:30.360 Park up in the North main Woods, over in the 36 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:36.280 White Mountains of western Maine, you know, Grafting Notch, the 37 00:02:36.319 --> 00:02:41.719 Big Alow Range, all over the state. I've been in 38 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:49.240 some pretty remote areas, and Maine is pretty remote. There's 39 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:55.039 about ten and a half million acres of forested land 40 00:02:55.560 --> 00:02:59.879 in northern Maine and it's remote. Uh. It's one of 41 00:02:59.879 --> 00:03:09.039 the largest unincorporated undeveloped areas in the lower forty eight states. 42 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:14.280 You know, the combined forested area of Maine is almost 43 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:18.159 that of the entire rest of New England. So it's 44 00:03:18.199 --> 00:03:23.759 the perfect environment for a creature such as a sasquatch, 45 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:29.360 if you choose to believe. And so tapping back into 46 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:33.240 the you know, the scouting part of my life, my 47 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:38.919 encounter happened at a scout camp. There's only a handful 48 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:43.039 in Maine of active scout camps. I won't out the 49 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:49.520 camp and I'll spare that detail, but this camp is 50 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:54.759 it's somewhere that when I was younger, I was a 51 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:59.000 counselor in training. I worked there for a few years 52 00:03:59.159 --> 00:04:04.919 in my teens and you know, into adulthood, I kind 53 00:04:04.919 --> 00:04:07.039 of came back for a couple of summers and worked there. 54 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:15.319 I was the rifle marit badge instructor. So I know 55 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:20.319 this camp very well. You know, total months that I've 56 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:25.720 spent camped out at that camp would be probably equivalent 57 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:30.040 to a year. I know the camp like the back 58 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:32.319 of my hand. I know the animals that you know 59 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:39.279 exist in camp or or passed through. It's fixated on 60 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:43.959 a lake and it's got a stream that you know, 61 00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:49.879 bisects the camp into two. So, uh, there was one night. 62 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:56.879 This was probably about ten years ago, and it was 63 00:04:56.920 --> 00:05:01.319 Friday night. Camp runs from some afternoon when the Scouts 64 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:05.360 arrive until they leave on Friday night after a closing campfire. 65 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:10.759 And if you're an adult, you have the option to 66 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:14.519 either go home and come back, you know, at the 67 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:18.720 beginning of the new week, or you can stay at 68 00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:22.199 camp through the weekend and be you're right there for 69 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:26.519 when camp starts back up. And usually I would go home, 70 00:05:27.959 --> 00:05:30.720 but that's like a fifty mile drive, So I decided 71 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:33.639 this particular week that I was going to stay the 72 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:40.560 night and through the weekend. So it's Friday night and 73 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:45.920 I'm in my cabin and I say cabin for lack 74 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:48.639 of a better term, and I'm trying to be nice 75 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:52.639 to the boy Scouts and the camp worked at It 76 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:59.800 was basically just a rickety shack, you know, no windows 77 00:05:59.839 --> 00:06:03.959 on aside from these screened in It's a screened in 78 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:08.360 window and it has a like a flat that you 79 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:11.199 gotta use this pulley system to pull up. So if 80 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:12.480 you want to get in the air and you need 81 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:15.959 to pull the rope, it lifts the flat. The screen 82 00:06:16.040 --> 00:06:18.240 keeps all the bugs out. That's what you have for 83 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:24.000 a window. The door of the shack is just a 84 00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:27.759 you know, just a rickety door, and the only thing 85 00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:31.199 to lock it is like the old school hook and latch. 86 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:38.480 So that's what I was staying in. So it was 87 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:42.879 about midnight, and so before I get in that, I 88 00:06:42.920 --> 00:06:47.120 should say, for all intents and purposes, I was alone. 89 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:51.800 There might have been a few people that were also 90 00:06:51.879 --> 00:06:56.800 staying the weekend, but it's an almost three hundred acre camp. 91 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:03.319 I was pretty much alone. So it's Friday night, and 92 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:07.600 I'm in my shack, you know, watching videos on my phone, 93 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:15.240 trying to fall asleep. I get the light off, it's quiet, 94 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:22.800 and then out of nowhere, I mean completely out of nowhere, 95 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:29.000 I start hearing these noises from behind my shack. And 96 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:33.560 I know camp, and I know right where that noise 97 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:36.040 is coming from. It's coming from one of the merit 98 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:40.439 badge areas, and it's about one hundred feet from where 99 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:52.199 my cabin is. So I start hearing this just this massive, heavy, stomping, pounding. 100 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:59.160 It almost sounded like whatever was making that noise was, 101 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:06.879 you know, was wrestling something or fighting something. But whatever 102 00:08:06.959 --> 00:08:11.160 it was, my first initial thought was, Wow, whatever this is, 103 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:18.680 it has to be just massive and heavy. I could 104 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:26.279 hear and feel the reverberations. That's with how much force 105 00:08:27.079 --> 00:08:32.759 whatever was back there was was hitting the ground. So 106 00:08:32.840 --> 00:08:36.679 I thought that was weird, you know, and and all 107 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:42.159 the normal things go through your rational mind. This could 108 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:46.840 be a bear, It could be a moose or another 109 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:52.159 member of the deer family, you know. So I was 110 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:56.519 a little bit alarmed, and so I turned my light on, 111 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:01.879 and I thought that, you know, jice, whatever is back there, 112 00:09:02.480 --> 00:09:07.759 it's big, it's massive, you know. I threw the latch 113 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:11.440 on my door, and just to act as a detern, 114 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:13.679 you know, the light on. You know, if it was 115 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:16.639 a bear, I figured it would see that there was 116 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:19.480 somebody there, and it might scurrying along and insame with 117 00:09:19.559 --> 00:09:21.960 a you know, a moose or or a deer. They 118 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:29.360 generally like to avoid people. But it continued, and it 119 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:34.960 it got, you know, progressively louder and more aggressive sounding, 120 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:46.000 just this stomping and thrashing. But it got weirder, you know. 121 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:49.519 I at one point I thought that I heard something 122 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:55.279 land in front of my cabin. It's all pine needles 123 00:09:55.320 --> 00:10:00.080 and dirt. You know, when you when you throw on 124 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:02.320 thing and it lands on pine needles and dirt, it's 125 00:10:02.360 --> 00:10:06.480 kind of a soft landing, and I swear I heard 126 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:10.480 something land in front of my cabin. And you know, 127 00:10:10.600 --> 00:10:14.639 at that point, I'm thinking, you know, it's probably somebody 128 00:10:14.679 --> 00:10:20.279 playing a joke on me. You know, somebody's out there. 129 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:24.399 They're trying to pull them over on me. So I 130 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:25.840 just kind of sat there. I didn't want to make 131 00:10:25.879 --> 00:10:28.440 any noise. I didn't want if there was somebody out 132 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:31.840 there playing a joke. I didn't want them thinking that 133 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:35.120 they got they got me. You know, I'll just ignore it, 134 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:43.320 it'll stop, it'll go away. But it didn't stop. It 135 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:52.960 progressed to something that really kind of freaked me out. 136 00:10:53.120 --> 00:10:55.919 If you you know, as a young boy, you know 137 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:58.600 we're we're in the woods, and you know we do 138 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:02.799 things like with one thing that every boy has done 139 00:11:02.960 --> 00:11:05.960 has gone out in the woods, you know, taking a 140 00:11:06.039 --> 00:11:09.320 stick and whacked it on a tree, and you know 141 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:13.519 it's fun, but it also makes a very distinct sound. 142 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:19.919 And and that's why I started to hear it was 143 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:25.600 as if somebody took a big stick and whacked it 144 00:11:25.679 --> 00:11:31.879 up against the tree. And it was always it was 145 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:36.879 two knocks, you know, one two, and then there would 146 00:11:36.879 --> 00:11:43.000 be some more thrashing some more stomping, and then you 147 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:49.679 know again one two, you know, whack whack, and again 148 00:11:49.759 --> 00:11:54.600 I'm thinking bear moose. You know, maybe it's a couple 149 00:11:54.639 --> 00:12:02.759 of buck deer fighting, but you know that would make 150 00:12:02.840 --> 00:12:05.480 more of kind of like a rattle type of sound. 151 00:12:06.000 --> 00:12:17.240 This was crisp and clear, whack whack, and you know 152 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:20.559 again I'm thinking, maybe someone's playing a joke on me. 153 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:26.000 But it got weirder, and this is where I knew 154 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:28.759 that this wasn't a person playing a joke on me. 155 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:36.960 The camp is cut in two by I'm gonna call 156 00:12:36.960 --> 00:12:39.000 it a river because its official name is a river. 157 00:12:40.200 --> 00:12:43.879 It's a wide stream of gentle flowing water and it 158 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:47.320 goes it cuts camp in two and it empties into 159 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:54.480 the lake. But where we are on that river, it's murky, 160 00:12:55.320 --> 00:13:01.399 it's kind of slimy. It's home to a nasty snapping turtle. 161 00:13:02.600 --> 00:13:06.440 Nobody goes in the water there. The running joke is 162 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:10.039 that's worth negative ten showers if you jump in the 163 00:13:10.120 --> 00:13:13.080 river there, it's you know, you get a shower like 164 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:19.559 ten times. Nobody goes in there for a swim. You 165 00:13:19.679 --> 00:13:24.080 go swim in the lake. There's also a footbridge if 166 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:26.039 anybody wants to cross to the other side of the camp, 167 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:31.840 you walk across the bridge. So imagine my shock and 168 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:41.039 surprise when at midnight I hear this gigantic splash and 169 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:46.639 I know that whatever was back behind my cabin had 170 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:51.320 just jumped into this river. And I can hear it 171 00:13:51.399 --> 00:13:55.480 swimming across. I can hear the water ripples, I can 172 00:13:56.240 --> 00:14:02.279 hear it, and I'm like, oh, okay, that's nobody I 173 00:14:02.360 --> 00:14:05.879 know was jumping in there. This This is obviously an animal. 174 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:15.200 But I continued to hear that knocking sound from the 175 00:14:15.240 --> 00:14:22.039 other side of the camp, and it kept getting progressively 176 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:26.039 further and further away, and it was always two knocks 177 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:30.919 at a time, and so it was moving further and 178 00:14:30.960 --> 00:14:35.919 further away. And again, I know camp. I know this 179 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:39.559 camp very well, I know the area very well. I 180 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:43.879 could tell based on the knocks that whatever this was 181 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:51.120 it was following the shoreline of the lake. And eventually 182 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:56.559 the knocking became so faint. It had moved so far 183 00:14:56.600 --> 00:15:04.799 away that I could not hear it anymore. And then 184 00:15:04.840 --> 00:15:13.320 eventually I went to sleep, and yeah, that's that's what 185 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:13.919 happened to. 186 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:15.720 Me, all right. 187 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:19.840 Jeremy, thank you very much for sharing your experiences with men. 188 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:23.440 They certainly sound terrifying. It sounds like this creature was 189 00:15:23.480 --> 00:15:27.559 being aggressive and territorial. Why do you think it was 190 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:31.200 doing a succession of two rapid wooden knocks? 191 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:33.320 What do you think that means? 192 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:36.720 Well, I've had a lot of time to think about 193 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:40.720 why it could have been doing that, and you know, 194 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:48.440 I'm trying to put myself in that animal's position. Why 195 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:53.759 would I be making a tree knock? You know, what 196 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:59.639 possible reasons could I have for doing that? And I 197 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:06.039 almost think that it was a form of communication. Either 198 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:12.000 it was communicating to me, I think, or it could 199 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:16.159 have been potentially communicating with another sasquatch. 200 00:16:16.840 --> 00:16:20.440 In my opinion, yeah, I would agree with that. 201 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:23.840 It sounds like there were others in the area and 202 00:16:24.120 --> 00:16:28.639 the klan was moving through the cabin that you were staying. 203 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:32.440 And yeah, it's a good thing that you put yourself 204 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:36.799 in that position to kind of ponder as to why 205 00:16:36.840 --> 00:16:39.799 the creature would have been doing that. And maybe maybe 206 00:16:39.799 --> 00:16:41.639 it was doing it because it just wanted to let 207 00:16:41.720 --> 00:16:44.360 you know, like, hey, I'm here, I'm moving through the area. 208 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:46.919 I didn't want to just sneak through there and possibly 209 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:50.159 startle you, like it warned you to know it was there. 210 00:16:50.919 --> 00:16:55.159 Sure, and you know, I absolutely believe that, you know, 211 00:16:55.879 --> 00:17:00.519 they are both nomadic and that they also have a territory. 212 00:17:01.679 --> 00:17:04.920 And like what you just said, I do think that 213 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:12.839 this particular sasquatch was moving through my area. But I 214 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:16.640 also get the feeling that, you know, this one might 215 00:17:16.680 --> 00:17:23.119 not have been so benevolent. I think this one was aggressive, 216 00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:28.200 you know, just based on the noises that it was making. 217 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:32.759 I definitely got the feeling that whatever was out there 218 00:17:34.480 --> 00:17:40.039 was aggressive and it could potentially harm me. But again, 219 00:17:40.119 --> 00:17:44.640 I do think that when it realized, I wanted to 220 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:45.599 make itself known. 221 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:52.480 Yeah, are there people usually staying in that cabin or 222 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:55.359 was it vacant for a while before you happen to 223 00:17:55.359 --> 00:17:55.960 stay there? 224 00:17:57.119 --> 00:18:02.240 So it was only inhabited by me. You know, when 225 00:18:02.279 --> 00:18:05.559 you go work at this camp, you're assigned a cabin 226 00:18:05.599 --> 00:18:09.519 and that's your cabin for the entire summer. Some people 227 00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:15.079 bunk with multiple people, but this particular summer, in my cabin, 228 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:19.960 it was just me, and I was fine with that. 229 00:18:20.039 --> 00:18:23.079 You know, it's I'm a I'm a grown man, and 230 00:18:23.559 --> 00:18:25.920 you know, I'd like to have my own cabin to myself. 231 00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:29.799 So that was fine. But on this particular night, I 232 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:32.160 kind of wish that I had had a cabin mate, 233 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:38.480 someone that could have shared that experience with me, because 234 00:18:38.519 --> 00:18:41.839 I'm sure, as you know, when you when you tell 235 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:45.920 somebody that you have an experience like that and there's 236 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:49.119 nobody to witness it, and you don't have audio or video, 237 00:18:50.319 --> 00:18:54.240 there's no you can't embroider a story enough to make 238 00:18:54.279 --> 00:18:57.839 them truly believe you. So in this case, I wish 239 00:18:57.839 --> 00:18:59.160 I had had somebody there with me. 240 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:01.359 Oh yeah, for sure. 241 00:19:01.440 --> 00:19:05.480 And I definitely understand the isolating feeling of having an 242 00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:09.920 experience like this and nobody else around to validated. But 243 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:13.480 you know, it happened, and that's all that matters. What 244 00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:17.119 time of year did this encounter happen where there's certain 245 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:21.759 things growing in the forest, like mushrooms, berries, where the 246 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:25.839 fish abundant there this time of year, Why do you 247 00:19:25.880 --> 00:19:27.039 think the creature was around? 248 00:19:28.119 --> 00:19:33.039 Well, so you know, again, mainhas an abundance of small 249 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:37.319 game animals, there's no shortage of berries, there's no shortage 250 00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:41.559 of fish, you know, for you know conter verus animals. 251 00:19:42.359 --> 00:19:47.160 This was in late July or early August. I think 252 00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:49.920 I think it was late July, but somewhere right around there. 253 00:19:50.759 --> 00:19:54.759 So really that's the height of the summer. You know, 254 00:19:54.880 --> 00:20:01.359 all your berries of are in full bloom there, rutful blackberries, 255 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:07.440 red raspberries, blueberries. You know, the only thing that grows 256 00:20:07.680 --> 00:20:10.200 as far as that at this camp would be black 257 00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:16.960 and blackberries and raspberries. There's no blueberries, you know, but 258 00:20:17.079 --> 00:20:19.960 there is Again, there's there's a body of water, and 259 00:20:19.960 --> 00:20:25.519 there's multiple bodies of water, and uh, there is a 260 00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:30.880 deer population as well. So I do think the combination 261 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:35.880 of the deer population there in the body of water. 262 00:20:35.960 --> 00:20:41.480 I think that's important because in almost every sasquatch experience 263 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:45.680 that I've heard and listened to, those two things have 264 00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:50.119 to be present a you know, a food source and 265 00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:53.440 a water source, and this camp had both. 266 00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:59.920 Yeah, absolutely, that makes sense. And there is a ton 267 00:20:59.920 --> 00:21:03.480 of forest in Maine. It's the most heavily forested state 268 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:07.480 in the United States, with roughly eighty nine to ninety 269 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:11.319 percent of land being covered by trees. And yeah, you 270 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:14.160 were in the perfect spot. There's water, there's food, it's 271 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:16.759 an isolated area, it's a perfect time of year when 272 00:21:16.799 --> 00:21:21.000 things are growing and abundant. And yeah, it sounds like 273 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:24.720 you caught You got caught in between this creature and 274 00:21:24.920 --> 00:21:25.880 where it wanted to go. 275 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:31.799 Well. And you know, another thought about this encounter that 276 00:21:31.960 --> 00:21:36.519 I've had time to think about is that it may 277 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:43.440 have been it may have been killing you know something, 278 00:21:43.720 --> 00:21:46.000 It might have been killing a small game animal or 279 00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:48.359 the year, you know, for food. That I've given that 280 00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:52.559 thought as well, because, like I said, it sounded like 281 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:56.160 it could have even been wrestling something to the ground. 282 00:21:58.200 --> 00:22:01.279 So I think that could be possibility of why this 283 00:22:01.319 --> 00:22:05.480 particular night I heard this. But I'll add a little 284 00:22:05.559 --> 00:22:09.319 context to this story by saying that I had another 285 00:22:09.359 --> 00:22:17.880 incident that summer that I had never had happen. There 286 00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:23.000 was one particular night where, you know, I had gone 287 00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:24.920 up to the head of the road to smoke a 288 00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:30.599 cigarette and you know, no flashlight. You know, it was 289 00:22:31.839 --> 00:22:34.440 I was walking along the camp road, I know, like 290 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:36.880 the back of my hands. So I'm walking back in 291 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:43.799 the camp and it's me and my buddy and out 292 00:22:43.799 --> 00:22:49.039 of nowhere we can hear from our left side just this, 293 00:22:49.440 --> 00:22:53.359 you know, beating feet like it sounded like a horse 294 00:22:53.640 --> 00:22:58.960 galloping through the woods. And it's pit's black. I cannot 295 00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:01.160 see a thing except for the dirt on the road 296 00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:05.319 in front of us, and it's coming right for us. 297 00:23:06.279 --> 00:23:10.039 And all I did was I, you know, kind of 298 00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:15.640 braced and I took a step back. And whatever was 299 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:22.359 running through the woods, it ran either directly behind me 300 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:28.519 or in front of me. And what I think was 301 00:23:28.559 --> 00:23:33.440 happening was I think that a deer was being chased 302 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:39.880 by a predator, because it was clearly four feet, you know, 303 00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:43.440 four It sounded like four hoofed feet, like a horse 304 00:23:43.480 --> 00:23:48.519 galloping through the woods, and you know, definitely a member 305 00:23:48.559 --> 00:23:51.839 of the deer family. But if you ever walk up 306 00:23:51.880 --> 00:23:57.400 on a deer, they run away. They'll stand there, they'll 307 00:23:57.400 --> 00:24:00.480 look at you, and then you know, after a minute 308 00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:03.960 they're gone. They they don't run towards you. They can 309 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:08.720 smell you, they can see you. So I believe I 310 00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:12.279 was almost trampled to death by a large deer that 311 00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:18.279 might just might just have been running away from whatever 312 00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:20.279 I heard and had an encounter with. 313 00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:24.400 Yeah, very well could have been. 314 00:24:24.599 --> 00:24:28.119 Is that the same area that you had the experience 315 00:24:28.200 --> 00:24:29.359 at the same campgrounds. 316 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:33.279 Yes, yep, it was the same summer. And I can't, 317 00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:35.319 for the life of me remember if it was before 318 00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:38.759 or after I had my what I believe was a 319 00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:43.359 sasquatch experience. I can't distinguish if it was before or after, 320 00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:46.160 but it was the same summer, and it was the 321 00:24:46.200 --> 00:24:50.160 same camp, and it was the same general area of camp. 322 00:24:51.599 --> 00:24:55.000 Oh wow, so they could have possibly been around in 323 00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:58.279 the area hunting deer. Did you notice a lot of 324 00:24:58.279 --> 00:25:01.279 deer in that area before the strange experiences? 325 00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:05.920 Sure? Yeah, Like I said, you know, Maine in general, 326 00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:10.240 but specifically this camp had a pretty healthy population of deer. 327 00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:14.480 You know, so I definitely I saw a lot of 328 00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:15.559 deer working there. 329 00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:22.200 Yeah, and it definitely makes sense. And deer will usually 330 00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:26.440 go out into people's yards and expose themselves to people 331 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:30.519 that they're being pursued by predators. 332 00:25:31.079 --> 00:25:34.279 Yeah. And you know main, you know, we don't have 333 00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:39.440 a shortage of predatory animals in this state. You know, 334 00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:45.920 bear predatory, we have Canada links, we have bobcat. But 335 00:25:46.920 --> 00:25:50.599 given the context of what I experienced and what I 336 00:25:50.640 --> 00:25:56.000 believe was a sasquatch, it really eliminates any nuance for 337 00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:59.799 me about the night where I was almost trampled by 338 00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:05.519 something thing. Given the experience I had, I do I 339 00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:11.480 firmly believe that a deer being chased by a sasquatch 340 00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:15.279 almost trampled me. And you know that might seem a 341 00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:22.200 little bit comical, but in hindsight, it's it's frightening. You know. 342 00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:24.839 Both experiences to me were very frightening. 343 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:26.759 Yeah, for sure. 344 00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:32.920 And you know people will ask the obvious question, well, hey, 345 00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:35.880 why didn't you record it? Why didn't you get a 346 00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:42.720 video or record? And quite honestly, I wish I had. 347 00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:47.119 I wish I had recorded. It would have been too 348 00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:51.839 easy because I had my phone. I was watching videos 349 00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:56.599 as this happen, when this happened, But the thought to 350 00:26:56.640 --> 00:27:01.559 do that never crossed my mind because of how afraid 351 00:27:01.599 --> 00:27:06.839 I was. I was more focused on what the heck 352 00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:11.240 is this thing? What is making this noise? What is 353 00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:15.240 doing this? And you know, the sense of being in 354 00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:22.920 danger kind of took over, and the thought never crossed 355 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:26.880 my mind. And unless someone's in an experience where they've 356 00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:31.440 been truly terrified, they'll probably never think that way. 357 00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:35.319 Yeah, I would agree with that. 358 00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:38.680 And it definitely does sound like sasquatch activity. I don't 359 00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:43.960 know an animal that big that will would knock, And yeah, 360 00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:47.920 it sounds like it was angry and possibly chasing deer. 361 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:52.640 And what did the stomping sound like when you initially 362 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:55.440 heard the noises. Do you think it was like just 363 00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:59.119 walking or like ground stomping. What are your thoughts about that? 364 00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:04.400 Well, Uh, I think that it was doing a little 365 00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:09.680 bit of everything. There was definitely some ground stomping, but 366 00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:13.039 it also sounds again like it was wrestling something to 367 00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:18.519 the ground, you know. And again this it came out 368 00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:21.759 of nowhere. I mean, this was I didn't hear anything 369 00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:26.640 approaching it, just you know, out of nowhere. I started 370 00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:34.079 to hear just this massive stomping on the ground and 371 00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:40.079 I just remember thinking that whatever this is is massive. 372 00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:44.119 It has to weigh hundreds and hundreds of pounds to 373 00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:48.200 make that type of pounding, and you know, to the 374 00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:51.000 point where I could feel it, I could I could 375 00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:55.960 feel the reverberations, you know. So it it was definitely 376 00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:57.119 doing a lot of ground pounding. 377 00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.160 Yeah, And it could have been that they were coordinating 378 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:08.200 a hunt, working together, pushing deer into a trap, or 379 00:29:08.359 --> 00:29:10.119 they were just pissed off that you were there. 380 00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:12.960 It's hard to say it really, Yeah, And you know, 381 00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:16.559 I've thought that too, because usually on the weekends at 382 00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:20.839 this camp, there's really nobody there. So they could have 383 00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:23.359 been banking on the fact that, hey, we're going to 384 00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:27.559 have access to, you know, our food, uninhibited by the 385 00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:32.240 people that are usually here. That certainly could be a possibility. 386 00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:36.880 But you know, the more I've thought about it, I 387 00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:42.200 really do think that this Sasquatch and potentially the others 388 00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:44.799 that may have been with it, I think they were 389 00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:48.720 just moving through because I had never heard anything like 390 00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:54.039 that before or since at that camp or anywhere for 391 00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:58.440 that matter. That was a one off situation. 392 00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:04.440 Yeah, And like you said earlier, you tried to put 393 00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:09.119 yourself in the Sasquatch's mine and viewing it from his perspective, 394 00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:15.160 and as a hunter, I will plan my hunts. I'll 395 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:19.440 look at a map, and finally I get out there, 396 00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:22.279 and if somebody else is occupying that area or someone 397 00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:23.880 else shows up, I kind of panic. 398 00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:24.880 I don't know what to do. 399 00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:31.480 I potentially evaluate should I leave the area, should I 400 00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:34.880 move somewhere else? And it bothers me when I go 401 00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:37.160