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Getting to know the TCU Horne 10 00:00:25,879 --> 00:00:28,719 frogs b YU versus TCU by He's a slight favorite. 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: In this game at home four and a half points. 12 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: I think to be exact, and I think ESPN Analytics 13 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,640 likes BYU. I think I think it's like a seventy 14 00:00:36,719 --> 00:00:38,840 percent chance of victory. We'll see how it plays out, 15 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,960 obviously under the lights of Lavelle, but we're gonna break 16 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,840 it all down here in this Know the Faux segment 17 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,039 brought to you by Bresa Cleaning Services. Reliable, affordable, and 18 00:00:49,079 --> 00:00:51,840 detail oriented. 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We've got Steve Johnson representing the Fort 30 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:24,840 Worth Star Telegram. 31 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:25,439 Speaker 1: What's up, Steve? 32 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,159 Speaker 3: Hey? How's going fellas? Hey? 33 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: Living right? 34 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 3: Man? 35 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,719 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful day here in Utah County. How's the DFW? 36 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,159 Speaker 4: Oh man, it's been back and forth. It was cold yesterday, 37 00:01:36,239 --> 00:01:38,000 now it's feeling warm, man, So I don't know whether 38 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,439 to keep my AC on and all though it's been 39 00:01:40,439 --> 00:01:41,560 going pretty good down here. 40 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: Nice man. 41 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 2: How does how's the fan base feeling about their TCU 42 00:01:46,719 --> 00:01:48,079 horn Frogs this year? 43 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 4: I would say there's probably been some anxiousness right now, 44 00:01:53,319 --> 00:01:55,760 don't I don't think they're mathematically eliminated from the big 45 00:01:55,799 --> 00:01:59,319 twelve title race, but they got to swim to none chance. 46 00:01:59,319 --> 00:02:01,159 They would need a lot of things to kind of 47 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:02,840 go their way, and I think that's a bit of 48 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,799 a disappointment for the fan base. Sunday Dyke said itself 49 00:02:06,239 --> 00:02:09,039 that the standard for this year was competing and at 50 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,080 least making it to Arlington in so many words, So 51 00:02:12,599 --> 00:02:15,240 unless they go on a miracle run, that's unlikely to happen. 52 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,319 Speaker 3: So I think there's a bit of a disappointment. 53 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 4: They've gown two double digit second half leads against Arizon 54 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,520 State and Iowa State, and it's kind of the third 55 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,879 straight year they kind of just had two really losses 56 00:02:26,879 --> 00:02:28,840 that are just hard to explain. It will likely to 57 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,560 keep them out the big to a title race, So 58 00:02:30,719 --> 00:02:33,000 I mean, I mean, TC is still in position to 59 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,919 have a good season with their record, but I think 60 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,639 the fan base is still going to be feeling a 61 00:02:36,879 --> 00:02:39,599 sense of disappointment no matter how the Horns fro was finished. 62 00:02:39,759 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 2: It feels like TC has been competitive in their games 63 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:43,599 though that they have lost. 64 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,439 Speaker 4: These are close losses, Yeah, they have been, and I 65 00:02:47,479 --> 00:02:49,680 think that's probably been the most frustrating thing for the 66 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,080 fan base. If you look at the game against areas 67 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,400 on the State, they had the seventeen zero lead and 68 00:02:54,439 --> 00:02:56,319 then you kind of just let the sun Devils come 69 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,280 back into the game because you can't run the ball, 70 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,000 and I think they only had ten nets yards for 71 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,159 the entire game. And then last week against IVIS State, 72 00:03:04,159 --> 00:03:06,400 they're leading seventeen to six at the beginning of the 73 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,039 fourth quarter. The Cyclones, as you guys know, were the 74 00:03:09,039 --> 00:03:12,039 mids of a four game loser Street. They hadn't done anything, 75 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,000 and then in the span of almost about two or 76 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,080 three drives, suddenly they retake control of the game because 77 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,159 once again TCU can't run the ball and give up 78 00:03:20,199 --> 00:03:22,599 a punt return to a walk on. So I think 79 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,039 there's a very real scenario where TCU is sitting here 80 00:03:26,439 --> 00:03:29,599 at eight and one, just like BYU is, but they 81 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,360 the inability to close games, and it's even showed up 82 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,360 to some of their wins. I think he's really put 83 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,360 that behind the eight ball and obviously put them a position 84 00:03:36,319 --> 00:03:37,960 where it's just going to be unlikely they'll be able 85 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:38,960 to make it to Arlington. 86 00:03:39,039 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: What is their identity offensively? Defensively? How would you describe 87 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:44,599 the identity of this team? 88 00:03:45,639 --> 00:03:48,759 Speaker 4: Offensively? They're a pass team, that's the strength of their team. 89 00:03:48,759 --> 00:03:51,599 Their receiving course, I think Aaron Mcalliser is I think 90 00:03:51,599 --> 00:03:54,400 he's still a bit underrated nationally, even compared to a 91 00:03:54,439 --> 00:03:56,680 guy like Jordan Tyson and Arizon the State, but I 92 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,280 think he's the top ten receiver, maybe top seven, top 93 00:03:59,319 --> 00:04:01,879 five receiver the country. He leads to Big twelve in 94 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,319 yards and touchdowns, Jordan Dwyers right outside the top ten. 95 00:04:05,759 --> 00:04:07,960 So that kind of dynamic duo is the strength of 96 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,960 their team. Eric's a guy that can take a slam 97 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,199 fifty yards so the house. He's also a good deep 98 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,319 ball receiver. I think Jordan's really strong when it comes 99 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,839 to those contested catches and using his physicality to create 100 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,560 space against defensive backs. And when he's on his best, 101 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,279 I think Josh s Hoover I can't call him in 102 00:04:23,319 --> 00:04:25,000 the lead. I think he's a tier below the league, 103 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,839 but when he's playing this best man, he can really 104 00:04:26,879 --> 00:04:29,680 just kind of sling it around the field. So they 105 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,879 want to run the ball, they have not been able to, 106 00:04:31,959 --> 00:04:34,480 so they've had to lean more on the passing game offensively, 107 00:04:34,519 --> 00:04:36,519 and they I would say the lack of balance is 108 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,600 probably the identity offensively. On defense, they can create a 109 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,160 lot of habits, they can create a lot of sacks, 110 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,120 they can create a lot of the turnovers. Bud Clark 111 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,879 Janelle Johnson I think are two of the best playmaking 112 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,160 staties in the country. And they also have one of 113 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,160 the best run defense in the Big twelves. Well, I 114 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,920 think it might be slightly better than BYU's. But just 115 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,399 like the offense, they have one fatal flaw. They have 116 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,720 one of the worst third down defense in the country. 117 00:04:58,759 --> 00:05:00,920 So for all the good things that they do and 118 00:05:00,959 --> 00:05:03,240 all the good players that they have, too often this 119 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,120 season they really struggle to get off field and allowed 120 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,560 teams kind of stream drive together. 121 00:05:08,639 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 2: Talking some TCU football here on esp and the fan 122 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,680 getting to know the foe brought to you by Brest 123 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:18,000 Cleaning Services. These close games, well let's talk about when 124 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,000 if they played their best ball where there was a 125 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,639 lot of confidence, a lot of swagger, maybe they were 126 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:25,480 the healthiest. And then where if they played their their 127 00:05:25,519 --> 00:05:27,639 worst ball in these games in this season. 128 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,319 Speaker 4: Well, in terms of location, they've been at their best 129 00:05:31,319 --> 00:05:33,800 aside from last week, they played their best football at home. 130 00:05:33,879 --> 00:05:35,920 If you look at some of the stats likes, for example, 131 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,680 you look at Josh Hoover splits at home, and in 132 00:05:38,759 --> 00:05:41,480 a way, he's been a completely different quarterback. I think 133 00:05:41,519 --> 00:05:44,120 he has maybe sixteen touchdowns and three interceptions at eight 134 00:05:44,199 --> 00:05:47,120 m Gen Carter Stadium. He just had six touchdowns and 135 00:05:47,199 --> 00:05:49,839 five picks on the road, though, if my memory searchs 136 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,680 me correctly, so I think the offense, whether it's the. 137 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 3: Home crowd and not having to deal with the crowd noise, 138 00:05:56,439 --> 00:05:57,560 it functions a lot better. 139 00:05:57,639 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 4: The run game has been a lot more efficient at home, 140 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,639 so they haven't played the best football in the road. 141 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,000 You know, they really struggled against West Virginia on the 142 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,319 scoring twenty three points. Obviously, they had that the gloss 143 00:06:08,319 --> 00:06:10,399 against Kansas State. I think the final score is a 144 00:06:10,399 --> 00:06:13,199 lot more closer than the game actually was. Kansas State 145 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,240 was leading by a big margin in the second half, 146 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,920 and obviously Arizona State where you can only manage the 147 00:06:17,959 --> 00:06:20,839 rest for ten yards. So I just think this team 148 00:06:20,879 --> 00:06:23,959 just hasn't been able to aside from North Carolina, which 149 00:06:23,959 --> 00:06:25,680 I think was their most dominant. 150 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 3: Performance of the season. 151 00:06:26,319 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 4: I know North Carolina's a little bit better now, but 152 00:06:28,639 --> 00:06:30,639 North Carolina's not a good team. They also have a 153 00:06:30,639 --> 00:06:32,800 good win over SU but that game was also in 154 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,240 Fort Worth, So I would just say CC's identity has 155 00:06:36,439 --> 00:06:39,199 basically been they can be a really good team when 156 00:06:39,199 --> 00:06:41,079 they play in Fort Worth, but when they go on 157 00:06:41,079 --> 00:06:43,480 the road, I think that lack of balance, the benning 158 00:06:43,439 --> 00:06:44,800 be able to get out the field, that's kind of 159 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,519 hindered them when they played the way for Fort Worth. 160 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: Well, byus, you know, from your perspective, right from what 161 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,319 you've been hearing from the TCU side of things on 162 00:06:55,399 --> 00:07:02,759 the scouting report, Who is BYU in relation to internal 163 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:09,000 conversation there within the TCU program. 164 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,079 Speaker 3: Well, I would like to say, I think BYU does 165 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:10,560 a lot of. 166 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 4: Things well that TC wishes it could do from a 167 00:07:12,959 --> 00:07:15,720 physicality standpoint, in terms of what they're able to do 168 00:07:15,759 --> 00:07:17,680 defensively with kind of their front seven, and even with 169 00:07:18,079 --> 00:07:19,759 what they want to do with the run game. Obviously 170 00:07:19,839 --> 00:07:21,639 BYU's aving, I think what two hundred rest of the 171 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,839 yard is a game TC would love. 172 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: To be there. 173 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 4: When TC made their run to the National Championship game, 174 00:07:26,639 --> 00:07:29,639 it was behind We all love Matts, Douggan and Quinn Johnston, 175 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,560 but they had a dominant run game, and that's kind 176 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,560 of been the the kind of. 177 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: The core philosophy of Sunny Dice and Ken le Bron. 178 00:07:36,839 --> 00:07:38,759 Speaker 4: So the fact they haven't been able to establish that 179 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,319 as I was, been a big disappointment for teaching, and 180 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,279 I think one reason to composition there in but when 181 00:07:43,279 --> 00:07:46,240 they look at the BYU, they see terrific linebackers, they 182 00:07:46,279 --> 00:07:48,920 see a terrific defensive line, and I know Sonny really 183 00:07:48,959 --> 00:07:51,199 loves the quarterback and says he really plays a lot 184 00:07:51,279 --> 00:07:54,839 older than his age. So in many ways they compared 185 00:07:54,879 --> 00:07:56,839 them to SMU said there are a couple of differences, 186 00:07:56,879 --> 00:07:58,639 of course, but I think in a lot of ways 187 00:07:58,759 --> 00:08:02,360 TCU sees the by d Yu DYU T excuse me, 188 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,879 that does a lot of things well that they wish 189 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:05,399 they could do. 190 00:08:05,639 --> 00:08:08,199 Speaker 3: And obviously there's a reason dyusing the CFP race. 191 00:08:08,959 --> 00:08:11,439 Speaker 2: It wasn't too long ago that TCU was in a 192 00:08:11,519 --> 00:08:16,120 national championship. From a donor base fan base standpoint, in 193 00:08:16,199 --> 00:08:20,120 the media coverage of that, does it feel like like 194 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,600 there's been some sort of precipitous dropping in talent or 195 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,920 coaching or execution. Where where's the gaps that need to 196 00:08:28,959 --> 00:08:32,879 be filled, Where's the maybe the slack that needs to 197 00:08:32,879 --> 00:08:34,759 be cut and they need to be a little bit 198 00:08:34,799 --> 00:08:37,159 more effective and efficient where's the weakness. 199 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,039 Speaker 3: I think it's the run game. 200 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 4: I think for the last two years they've just had 201 00:08:41,879 --> 00:08:43,879 really bad run games. Last year they kind of got 202 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,000 nailed out by save Young William where they kind of 203 00:08:46,039 --> 00:08:48,279 went to like this wildcat package and that kind of 204 00:08:48,279 --> 00:08:50,360 that's how they went on their run last year. But 205 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,279 this year they don't have a six foot four, six 206 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,360 foot five, you know, athlete that runs at four to 207 00:08:55,399 --> 00:08:57,399 four that they can put back there this year. So 208 00:08:57,759 --> 00:09:01,080 when the run games inconsistent, job Shub tends to press, 209 00:09:01,159 --> 00:09:03,440 and when Josh Shuber presses, he turns the ball over. 210 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,000 So I believe in every loss this year for TCU 211 00:09:06,039 --> 00:09:08,159 they've had at least three turnovers, and most of those 212 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,320 who have been on the road. So when they can't 213 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,000 when they can't find balance offensively, their quarterback is forced 214 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,720 to do more and sometimes Despike despite making some really 215 00:09:17,759 --> 00:09:20,720 he'll make some throws are are jaw dropping and are 216 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,759 some of the most impressive in the country. But when 217 00:09:22,799 --> 00:09:25,480 he's but when there's pressure, when he feels or he 218 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,600 feels he needs to kind of get tc back into 219 00:09:27,639 --> 00:09:30,039 the game. I think Josh is still showing the tendency 220 00:09:30,039 --> 00:09:32,200 to kind of make some critical mistakes like he did 221 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,120 in the first half of This is Iva State, and 222 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,039 when you look at it from a national perspective, I 223 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,399 just think, really, after tc lost to Colorado in the 224 00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:42,600 twenty twenty three season opener, it's been really hard for 225 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,679 them to kind of get back on the national stage. 226 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,399 I mean, they haven't played a lot of top twenty 227 00:09:46,399 --> 00:09:47,960 five opponents because obviously we. 228 00:09:47,919 --> 00:09:51,039 Speaker 3: Know the Big twelve deals the perception issue. I don't know. 229 00:09:51,639 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 4: I think there was a crazy step like TCU hasn't 230 00:09:53,519 --> 00:09:57,240 beaten a ranked opponent and maybe one thousands or so days, 231 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,960 so obviously this game against BYU, this is a signature 232 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,759 moment I think for the fan base for Sunny Dykes, 233 00:10:03,039 --> 00:10:05,799 because if you really look at it, he hasn't really 234 00:10:05,799 --> 00:10:08,200 had a marquee win when he can really put his 235 00:10:08,279 --> 00:10:10,559 flag on and show the show the fan base that 236 00:10:10,639 --> 00:10:12,360 the program is still moving in the right direction, the 237 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:13,399 talent is still there. 238 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 3: I think the coaching staff is still there, but I. 239 00:10:16,519 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 4: Think they're just the fan base needs a marquee, a 240 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,639 signature win to wrap their arms around to know that 241 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,159 the program is still ascending and not you know, taking 242 00:10:25,159 --> 00:10:26,519 that small decline every year. 243 00:10:26,879 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, what is the investment in NIL right now they're 244 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,559 in at TCU, are they pretty competitive? 245 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: Pretty aggressive? Comparatively speaking? 246 00:10:36,799 --> 00:10:38,799 Speaker 4: I think I would probably say a little bit of middle, 247 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:39,679 middle of the pack. 248 00:10:39,759 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: I don't. 249 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,519 Speaker 4: I think Texas Tech is just so far ahead of everybody, 250 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,559 at least in football that is that I don't want 251 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,120 to say nobody can't compete. I think Dyus obviously has 252 00:10:48,159 --> 00:10:52,200 a strong NIL package. But I think going into this offseason, 253 00:10:52,519 --> 00:10:55,399 it would not surprise me if TCU make some even 254 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,720 more aggressive investment approach, especially on the offensive line, trying 255 00:10:59,759 --> 00:11:02,440 to land some of these high profile kid kids. Because 256 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,159 tc IS basically decide they want to be a developmental program, 257 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,279 so a lot of their NIL goes to retaining players, 258 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,600 keeping players in the programs for multiple years, and trying 259 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,360 to develop those guys. So I think you can find 260 00:11:14,399 --> 00:11:16,399 success with that, but I still think that you have 261 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,399 to find balance and be able to land some difference 262 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,799 makers in the portal like they were able to do 263 00:11:21,799 --> 00:11:23,840 in twenty twenty two. Right now, TCU has had this 264 00:11:23,919 --> 00:11:27,080 most success kind of finding guys like Jordan Dwyer was 265 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,919 a guy from Idaho, Aaron mccolser was at Boise State. 266 00:11:30,279 --> 00:11:33,000 They haven't consistently shown the ability to maybe go out 267 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,080 and get a guy that was a starter at a 268 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,360 power for a conference. They did Land once today, Noel 269 00:11:37,399 --> 00:11:40,320 McKinnie from Oklahoma State, But I'm mainly talking about maybe 270 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,799 a guy from I don't know, just throwing it out there, 271 00:11:43,159 --> 00:11:45,600 say you landa started from Missippi State or maybe like 272 00:11:45,639 --> 00:11:48,360 a Vanderbilt and things like that. So I think they 273 00:11:48,399 --> 00:11:50,240 have some strikes that need to be taken if they 274 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,840 want to take that next level. But resources are on 275 00:11:52,919 --> 00:11:54,879 an issue at TCU. I can say that as well. 276 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always intriguing to see what the margin of 277 00:11:59,519 --> 00:12:02,399 victory is going to be where and where you can 278 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,919 assign that margin of victory too, right? 279 00:12:05,039 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: Is it personnel? Is it coaching? You know, how talented 280 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:09,200 is the coaching staff? 281 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 3: Like? 282 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,039 Speaker 2: How did do we feel like as a as a 283 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,679 TCU fan base? Do they feel like they've upgraded from 284 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,279 the Gary Patterson era? They had a great thirteen and 285 00:12:19,799 --> 00:12:23,799 two year right in twenty twenty two. Since then, five 286 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,000 and seven, nine and four, they're on pace maybe possibly 287 00:12:27,039 --> 00:12:29,919 to get to double digit victories this season, but it 288 00:12:30,039 --> 00:12:33,320 may be status quo. I don't know what quota is 289 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,279 for TCU year over year, you know what I mean? 290 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think I think, honestly, I think the 291 00:12:38,399 --> 00:12:38,960 fan base. 292 00:12:38,799 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 4: Struggles with that as well too, because if you look 293 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,279 at Gary Patterson's last four years, TC was a mediocre program. 294 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:45,759 I think it was a lot of six and six, 295 00:12:45,879 --> 00:12:48,639 five and seven, maybe seven to six. So I think, 296 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,360 if we're just being objective, Sonny Dice has been an 297 00:12:51,399 --> 00:12:53,080 upgrade over the kind of the final. 298 00:12:52,799 --> 00:12:54,399 Speaker 3: Era of the Gary Patterson era. 299 00:12:54,759 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 4: But when you have a coach like that that was 300 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,679 so beloved and took the programs all these different heights 301 00:13:00,039 --> 00:13:03,720 and then your Sunny Dison in year one, fair or not, 302 00:13:03,879 --> 00:13:05,879 a lot of people still view that as Gears team 303 00:13:05,919 --> 00:13:09,399 and you took quote unquote Gears team to the National Championship. 304 00:13:09,799 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 3: Now people want to see what you can do when 305 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:12,879 this is your program, when this is. 306 00:13:12,879 --> 00:13:15,519 Speaker 4: Your roster, And right now, I don't know if they've 307 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,679 really ever covered from Garrett Riley, the offense coordinated from 308 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,320 the National Championship runner up team leaving for Clemson. I 309 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,399 think they lost a really good running back coach and 310 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,639 Anthony Jones who went to USC who I think they 311 00:13:26,759 --> 00:13:29,000 easily be a future head coach at the Group of 312 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,840 five level next year. So there's been some losses, and 313 00:13:31,879 --> 00:13:33,720 I think the running game has never been quite the 314 00:13:33,759 --> 00:13:35,840 same as it was in twenty twenty two. 315 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,159 Speaker 3: I think they've shown improvements on defense. 316 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,519 Speaker 4: I think this is the best defense Sunny Dice has had, 317 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,440 and they've recruited at a pretty much at a really 318 00:13:42,519 --> 00:13:45,279 high level. I just think right now it's just those 319 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,399 kind of those I don't want to use a turn 320 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,080 bone headed losses. But for example, last year they got 321 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,960 upset by UCF, got upset by Houston. 322 00:13:53,039 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 3: Now you have two more of those losses this year. 323 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 4: So I think fans are just seeing too many of 324 00:13:57,279 --> 00:14:01,679 those really frustrating losses and not really those marquee wins. 325 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,519 It's one thing, you know, beat up on some of 326 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,399 the teams at the bottom of the Big twelve, but 327 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,639 they want those signature wins like they could possibly get 328 00:14:07,639 --> 00:14:08,600 on Saturday as well. 329 00:14:08,879 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the history between these two teams and 330 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,919 overall it's pretty even, right five and seven, BYU's got 331 00:14:16,919 --> 00:14:17,519 five wins. 332 00:14:17,519 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: TCU's got seven wins. 333 00:14:18,759 --> 00:14:22,679 Speaker 2: But you look at the recent history from two thousand 334 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:27,159 and five to present day, I believe TCU six and 335 00:14:27,279 --> 00:14:30,600 two versus the Cougars, and the last time BYU beat 336 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,159 TSU was when I was playing for BYU and six 337 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:35,399 and O seven. 338 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,279 Speaker 1: It's crazy, I didn't know that. 339 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the history here so man that I 340 00:14:40,639 --> 00:14:43,200 don't know how long you've been covering the TCU Horned Frogs, 341 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,320 but I find it interesting it's not only been dominance 342 00:14:46,679 --> 00:14:49,480 in the modern era, but like, these games aren't even 343 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,759 all that close. I mean, forty four to eleven, the 344 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,159 clo closest one was thirty eight, twenty eight and twenty eleven, 345 00:14:56,679 --> 00:14:59,840 thirty one to three in twenty ten, thirty eight to 346 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,759 seven two thousand and nine, thirty two to seven two 347 00:15:02,799 --> 00:15:03,360 thousand and eight. 348 00:15:03,879 --> 00:15:05,559 Speaker 1: Crazy. Any thoughts on that? 349 00:15:07,279 --> 00:15:09,519 Speaker 4: I think the most interesting thought is that, at least 350 00:15:09,559 --> 00:15:13,080 from the TCU perspective, that stringer recent dominants just really 351 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,240 hasn't mattered in terms of like changing how people view 352 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,919 this game, or like I would say, I don't think 353 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,559 the TCU fan base is going into this one like, oh, 354 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,320 we've owned DYU the last couple of years, so you 355 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,039 know that gives us a boost. I think that's probably 356 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,480 lets you know, I guess the moves of the program, 357 00:15:29,519 --> 00:15:32,039 the moves of the fan base around here, Like you know, 358 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,559 during this week, nobody's really talked about that twenty twenty 359 00:15:34,559 --> 00:15:37,360 three game. In fact, if anything, Sunny kind of mentioned 360 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,399 how a lot of those guys are still on BYU's 361 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,159 team and now they're that defense that got carved up 362 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,919 that game is obviously one of the best in the 363 00:15:43,919 --> 00:15:47,600 country right now. So I think it's been interesting how 364 00:15:47,679 --> 00:15:49,480 little I think the fan base has kind of paid 365 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,360 attention to some of that recent history, and I think 366 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:52,480 it just kind of goes to show. 367 00:15:53,039 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: I don't want to say the. 368 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,879 Speaker 4: Vibes are dad when when you have a team that's 369 00:15:55,879 --> 00:15:58,080 six and three and that can easily go eight and four, 370 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:59,200 nine and three if they can. 371 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 3: Find a way to get it done on Saturday. 372 00:16:00,799 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 4: But I just think this overall, whether it's like looking 373 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,440 at the recent history with BYU or just like the 374 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,440 big picture since of the program, there's just a lot 375 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:10,200 of anxiousness. 376 00:16:10,279 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: Man. 377 00:16:10,519 --> 00:16:12,399 Speaker 4: So you would think that would get maybe TCU and 378 00:16:12,399 --> 00:16:14,639 this fans a little bit more confidence. But I would 379 00:16:14,639 --> 00:16:17,360 say it just really hasn't had impact impact on how 380 00:16:17,399 --> 00:16:18,120 this game is viewed. 381 00:16:18,159 --> 00:16:20,399 Speaker 2: For fort work, So what is quota a year over 382 00:16:20,519 --> 00:16:24,720 year for a TCU team, is my follow up to that, 383 00:16:24,759 --> 00:16:27,440 because you know, I've been covering BAU for a while 384 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,840 now I look at over the last like fifty sixty years, 385 00:16:30,879 --> 00:16:34,480 they average like eight wins a season, So like BAU 386 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,840 fans have become accustomed to eight win seasons, and they 387 00:16:37,919 --> 00:16:41,960 may take into account power for affiliation, et cetera, strength 388 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,200 of schedule elevated. But like I would say, year in 389 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,879 and year out, like if BAU doesn't get to eight wins, 390 00:16:48,279 --> 00:16:51,679 BAU fans they get up in arms a little bit. 391 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,679 They're like, Wow, should we make some changes in the coaches. 392 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,960 What's quota for TCU? Do you think year over year? 393 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: Well, I think what they what they want, what they 394 00:16:59,639 --> 00:17:00,480 aspire to be. 395 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 4: TCU views itself is one of these programs that can 396 00:17:03,799 --> 00:17:05,720 kind of feel that void what that was left by 397 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:06,720 Oklahoma and Texas. 398 00:17:06,759 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 3: Obviously they're nowhere near as big as. 399 00:17:08,559 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 4: Institutions as those programs were, but their location in DFW, 400 00:17:13,079 --> 00:17:15,799 their pedigree of having success even when those two teams 401 00:17:15,799 --> 00:17:19,000 were in the conference, and like even the administrators, the 402 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,519 athletic directors like tc wants to be at the top. 403 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:24,000 And I'm not necessarily saying tc wants to win Big 404 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,319 twelve championship every year. But I would say the standard 405 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,000 is maybe less, Like I think TCU fans could stomach 406 00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:33,359 a five and seven season if it meant that two 407 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,599 years later, which is now, they'll be planning in Arlington. 408 00:17:36,839 --> 00:17:39,559 Speaker 3: But right now, I think, right now, I think the standard. 409 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 4: Is let's say, maybe every every three years you're playing 410 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,200 for a Big Twelve title. 411 00:17:43,279 --> 00:17:44,599 Speaker 3: Maybe it's every other season. 412 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 4: And whether or not that realistic in this era, it 413 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,480 remains to be seen. But I think when you're in 414 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,759 the Big Twelve and all these games are decided by 415 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,160 this team, I always decided by one position. TCU feels 416 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,839 like with his talent advantage, they always recruit well Atlanta 417 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,359 DFW kids in the porter. 418 00:17:59,319 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 3: From high school TCU. 419 00:18:01,039 --> 00:18:03,319 Speaker 4: I think they feel like they should always be let's say, 420 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,920 top four, top three in the standings year in and 421 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,920 year out. So when you see a Texas Tech kind 422 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,240 of rise up in one year and look like this juggernaut, 423 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,039 I think that worries them. I think when BYU is 424 00:18:14,079 --> 00:18:16,599 able to you know, two years ago BYU is a 425 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,240 bad team and now they look like they can make 426 00:18:18,279 --> 00:18:20,920 the playoff race, I think right now tc just feels 427 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,519 like you should be at the top of the standings, 428 00:18:22,519 --> 00:18:25,240 whether that means a fourth place finish here and then 429 00:18:25,279 --> 00:18:27,240 you go, you know, you finished second the first to 430 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,880 next year. So I think right now they're probably finished 431 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,519 sixth or seven, depending on how things shake out. And 432 00:18:32,599 --> 00:18:34,559 I could say that's a little bit too low for 433 00:18:34,599 --> 00:18:36,319 the TCU fan base and where they want to be 434 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,119 with no Oklahoma and no Texas in the league. 435 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like they're at least on part like 436 00:18:40,079 --> 00:18:42,680 they like, eight wins may keep your job if you're 437 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,279 a head coach, right, if you're a coordinator, you know 438 00:18:45,319 --> 00:18:47,640 what I mean. It's the eight win mark seems to 439 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,359 be the threshold for some of these these teams in 440 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:51,640 the Big Twelve, including TCU. 441 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:53,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. 442 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,279 Speaker 4: I think if that will probably teach you go to one. 443 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,160 So I don't think tc will make a lot of 444 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,400 sweeping changes. They go eight and four, But if you 445 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,960 finished seven and five or yeah, Alboul he lose these 446 00:19:03,039 --> 00:19:05,400 last three games, I think you could you'll see some 447 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,200 major coordinator, major. 448 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 3: Position of coaches changes. So, I mean, we'll just have 449 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:10,839 to see. 450 00:19:11,039 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 4: I don't it will take a lot for TCU fans 451 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,359 to view this season as a successful one, even if 452 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,759 you finish eight and four, seven to five, or even 453 00:19:17,839 --> 00:19:19,400 nine to three with a chance to win ten games 454 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:20,200 in the bowl game. 455 00:19:20,799 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 2: That's crazy because I like, you give me nine to 456 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,559 three with a chance to win a bowl game against 457 00:19:24,759 --> 00:19:28,799 like a decent opponent. And maybe it's diluted now in 458 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,519 the bowl series outside of the colleg football playoff and 459 00:19:31,559 --> 00:19:35,200 guys you know, deciding that they'd rather train for the 460 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,119 Pro Day and take their talent to the NFL rather 461 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,799 than compete in the bowl games. But I mean, I 462 00:19:40,799 --> 00:19:42,960 feel like ten win seasons, man, and not at least 463 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,799 an opportunity to win ten is is a solid season, 464 00:19:45,799 --> 00:19:47,119 all things considered. 465 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,039 Speaker 3: I would agree with you. 466 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 4: And you know, there's I always deal with so much, 467 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,720 you know, people, you know, fans are so emotional now, 468 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,240 and I think it's because of the playoff. Everybody feels like, 469 00:19:57,039 --> 00:19:59,079 you know, hey, we just won our conference. We can 470 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,039 make the playoff, which is obviously different from a couple 471 00:20:01,079 --> 00:20:02,480 of years ago, where even if you were the Big 472 00:20:02,519 --> 00:20:04,559 twelve champion, there's probably a good chance you're gonna get 473 00:20:04,599 --> 00:20:07,400 left out. So I think that increases the expectations, and 474 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,640 I think, like you said, it's a good point. I 475 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,000 think TC fans still have a bad taste in their 476 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,960 mouth from winning eight games last year and getting sent 477 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:18,400 to the New Mexico Bowl against I think Louisiana. So 478 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,640 I just think for them, there's just a hunger to 479 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,960 get back to the mountaintop because that twenty twenty two 480 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,759 season was so magical, and I just think there's a fear, 481 00:20:25,799 --> 00:20:28,319 there's a word that maybe that was the best of 482 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,559 the Sunnay Dice era. And when you lose like the 483 00:20:30,559 --> 00:20:32,640 way you did against Ilous State and obviously areas on 484 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,400 the state, that only reinforces some of those serious So 485 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,319 I would agree with you. I don't think Sunny Dice 486 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,000 is on the hot seat. But let's say they finished 487 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,160 seventy five, even they would go eight and five. I 488 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,759 think year five would be kind of hey man, you 489 00:20:44,799 --> 00:20:45,799 gotta make it to Orleans. 490 00:20:45,799 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: That are Maybe TCU does a side about thinking making 491 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,079 a change. 492 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,319 Speaker 2: Injury report wise, how you feel in health wise. I 493 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,200 saw the initial injury report drop on Wednesday evening. 494 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 3: Break that down for US, well, TC would be obvious 495 00:20:59,759 --> 00:21:00,359 leading Russia. 496 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 4: Kavorian Barnes, He's been the most effected running back all season. 497 00:21:04,279 --> 00:21:06,039 I was a bit of surprise he was a transfer 498 00:21:06,039 --> 00:21:09,319 from you Texas San Antonio that kind of came out of. 499 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 3: Nowhere to earn the running back one job. 500 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 4: It's kind of just been unfortunately, he's never really gotten 501 00:21:14,079 --> 00:21:14,680 back healthy. 502 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,319 Speaker 3: I think he got hurt in the second. 503 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 4: Game against Abilene Christians and he's been on and off 504 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,200 the injury port ever ever since. So without him, he 505 00:21:22,279 --> 00:21:25,559 brings kind of some great power. He has great vision 506 00:21:25,599 --> 00:21:27,880 with his jump cuts. He's the type of running back 507 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,160 that I think you really need against the YU defense, 508 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,319 It's really hard to bring him down their first contact. 509 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,799 Speaker 3: So that will make tc rely on that have. 510 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 4: Some faster running backs, more slashers. But I think they 511 00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:42,359 really missed the presidence of Kavorian Barnes. The only really 512 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,759 other notable names on there is obviously the starting kicker, 513 00:21:44,839 --> 00:21:47,480 Kyle Limmerman, who's been out I think also since the 514 00:21:47,519 --> 00:21:51,240 Abilene Christian game. Without him, it's kind of hindered TCU's 515 00:21:51,519 --> 00:21:53,640 field goal game. So I think you'll probably see t 516 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,440 should be a lot more aggressive on fourth down and 517 00:21:56,519 --> 00:21:58,480 I'm not sure man they might need to be inside 518 00:21:58,559 --> 00:22:00,680 the twenty to feel comfortable kick and kicking with a 519 00:22:00,839 --> 00:22:04,640 back of kicker Natan the Cashlan true freshman slot receiver 520 00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:06,680 Ed Small will be out for a second straight game. 521 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,240 He's been about the fourth receiver. He's a really good, 522 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,240 really good player to have a bright future. But TC's 523 00:22:12,279 --> 00:22:14,200 expecting to have his starters. I'm not sure how big 524 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,720 of a loss he'll be, but I think Lemmerman being 525 00:22:16,759 --> 00:22:19,440 out in Cavorian, Barnesby and I will be significant hurts 526 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:20,440 for TC to overcome. 527 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 2: Love great breakdown, man, How can we support you? All 528 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,359 of our listeners? How can they support you? What you do, 529 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,079 how you do it? How where they can? Where can 530 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,640 they find your tweets, your zets or whatever and everything 531 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:32,559 that you're writing about. 532 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 4: You can find most of my stories and on my 533 00:22:35,759 --> 00:22:39,640 tweets on my Twitter page is Steven M. Johnson Underscore 534 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,839 on the social media. I'm looking forward to Provo. I've 535 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,039 heard the view from the stadium as is elite. 536 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,279 Speaker 2: It is, man, Yeah, what have you? What are you 537 00:22:47,319 --> 00:22:49,599 looking to do when you get out to Provo? 538 00:22:51,279 --> 00:22:53,799 Speaker 4: Well, it's some of all the flights and all that 539 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,240 miss is done. Hopefully I'll get a chance to explore 540 00:22:56,279 --> 00:22:59,359 since it's such a late to kickoff on Big Mountain guys, 541 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,079 So hopefully the and permitted me to get out and 542 00:23:01,079 --> 00:23:02,799 getting the hike and just see more of the city. 543 00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:05,079 I went to Salt Lake City last year, so it 544 00:23:05,079 --> 00:23:07,319 won't be my first time in Utah, but I was 545 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,359 really just blown away by how beautiful the state was 546 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:10,440 when I came last year. 547 00:23:10,759 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, where you are you staying in Salt Lake? Are 548 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:13,319 you staying in? 549 00:23:13,759 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 3: Uh? 550 00:23:14,279 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 1: In Provo? Where you're flying into. 551 00:23:17,079 --> 00:23:19,799 Speaker 4: I'm flying into Provo and I'm staying and I think 552 00:23:19,839 --> 00:23:20,680 it's arm Is. 553 00:23:20,599 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: That how you get warm? 554 00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 3: Yep? Yes, all right, well not too far from the pro. 555 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,079 Speaker 2: We'll send a couple of to dows over your way 556 00:23:28,559 --> 00:23:30,440 if you have time, you can, you can get after it. 557 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,720 So good, Yes, sir, appreciate it. All right, there you go, 558 00:23:33,759 --> 00:23:36,680 Steven M. Johnson, Ladies and gentlemen, another folk. Thanks so much, Steven, 559 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,720 will see you in the press box. 560 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:39,839 Speaker 3: I appreciate you. Guys. 561 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: There you go. That's Steven M. 562 00:23:41,279 --> 00:23:44,079 Speaker 2: Johnson and award winning reporter, teach you beat writer for 563 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,359 the four Worth Star Telegram. Your thoughts, your comment here, 564 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,039 your follow up, Ronald of the three Man Weaver. 565 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, always good stuff from Steve. Good to have him 566 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,519 on the program. We've had him now three years in 567 00:23:52,559 --> 00:23:54,440 a row is the reason why he's at a or 568 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,160 win a journalist is to give him a quick plug. 569 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,599 Need to text him he needs to go to Chubbies 570 00:23:57,599 --> 00:23:59,799 because he might be staying at that hotel right across 571 00:23:59,799 --> 00:24:01,559 the reach, so that's true. Might have to tell him 572 00:24:01,559 --> 00:24:04,480 that shout out to the Smow family. Saw them at 573 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,799 the basketball game the other day. Anyway, I think this 574 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,480 is pretty interesting. The third down struggles for the horn 575 00:24:09,519 --> 00:24:12,039 Frogs on defense that they have a good defense, but 576 00:24:12,079 --> 00:24:14,559 they struggle getting off the field. BA has been very 577 00:24:14,559 --> 00:24:17,000 good in the run game with that quarterback draw with Bear. 578 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,640 On third down, He's converted a handful of third and long. 579 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,599 So you have to think is BA is going to 580 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,759 be able to take advantage of that this TCU has 581 00:24:23,799 --> 00:24:26,599 that has had that deficiency up until the Texas Tech game. 582 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,319 BA has been able to convert third down. So that's 583 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,440 something I'm looking at bend of like that might be 584 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,079 something you can capitalize off of, especially Saturday Night Vampire 585 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,480 Koug's under the Lights late kickoff. I think that's something 586 00:24:37,519 --> 00:24:39,440 that you'll definitely see Aaron Roddick try to exploit. 587 00:24:40,599 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: Gonna be interesting one, no doubt about it. 588 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 2: The other element I was looking at here when I 589 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,119 was comparing and contrasting these teams. B YU have I 590 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,960 think thirteen players in the NFL right now. TCU is 591 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,119 still putting out talent. 592 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,839 Speaker 1: They got twenty guys. They got twenty guys out of 593 00:24:55,839 --> 00:24:57,279 that squad over the years. 594 00:24:57,319 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 3: Now. 595 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, I think is still on a roster. 596 00:25:00,599 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 5: So yeah, somewhere. 597 00:25:01,319 --> 00:25:03,599 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a guy I competed against. He's been 598 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:04,720 in the league for a minute. 599 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 5: But Quinn Johnson, their star receiver from that was it 600 00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:10,240 a national championship is playing for the LA Chargers. Yeah, 601 00:25:10,279 --> 00:25:12,200 receiver number one. Like the god guys Ben. 602 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've They're always acquired great talent. 603 00:25:15,079 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 2: They're at TCU and and can compete with the best 604 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:23,599 of them. 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