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<v Speaker 2>INGRAMM fifty five KRZ the talk station.

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<v Speaker 1>Six point thirty f fifty five KRC the talk station. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say happy Wednesday, but I don't feel like saying

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<v Speaker 1>happy Wednesday. I woke all actually yesterday I got a

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<v Speaker 1>text message from my little bird friend Westside Jim Keefer,

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<v Speaker 1>the FOP, the Fraternal Order Police Chapter sixty nine represented

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<v Speaker 1>the SINCINNTI Police Department have endorsed Greg Landsman and Denise Treehouse.

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<v Speaker 1>Made my jaw drop open. I'm gonna go and there's

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<v Speaker 1>no way I'm being lied to. FOP President Ken Kobra,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Morning show and a very happy Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>to you. What in the wide wide world of sports

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<v Speaker 1>is it going on here, my friend?

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning, Brian. Yes, it's been an interested in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four hours to say the least. So when they do

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<v Speaker 3>these endorsements, yeah, this committee has made up of a

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<v Speaker 3>diverse group of people from active retired officers, different political feelings.

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<v Speaker 3>Their job and what they're charged with is to decide

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<v Speaker 3>who to endorse based off of what best furthers the

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<v Speaker 3>mission of the FOP, not necessarily their personal feelings, but

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<v Speaker 3>what have these candidates, what have they done for the

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<v Speaker 3>FOP or what have they said that they're willing to do?

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<v Speaker 3>And Greg Landsman's case, we all know you during twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 3>he certainly came out and was no front of the

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<v Speaker 3>police right since he's been elected, Since he's been elected,

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<v Speaker 3>he has brought back, most recently one point seven million

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<v Speaker 3>dollars to upgrade the camera system for Cincinnati for the

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<v Speaker 3>downtown area. Greg Lansman signed on to every bill that

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<v Speaker 3>the FOP has asked him to in a national platform.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that federal dollars that you're referring to? Yes, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So he had to bring federal dollars in to fix

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<v Speaker 1>a problem the city of Cincinnati is responsible for, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's maintaining its own stuff and things. Am I right

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<v Speaker 1>on that particular point?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, be correct. Okay, So I my tax dollars

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<v Speaker 1>paid for the money that he brought back because we

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<v Speaker 1>are neglecting the store here in the city. Correct, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, I'm sorry. I just want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>all was clear.

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<v Speaker 3>On that, right. So, and this is what I encourage

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<v Speaker 3>everybody to do. And I was at a meeting last

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<v Speaker 3>night this was brought up, and I said the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>When we do these endorsements, they said, these endorsements are

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<v Speaker 3>who we believe best works with the FOP, not necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>us personally. What I encourage everybody to do, anyway, is

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<v Speaker 3>completely vet these candidates, you know, just because they have

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<v Speaker 3>an FOP endorsement. They may not be the candidate for you.

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<v Speaker 3>They may not be the candidate for some FOP members,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's fine. The problem that we have in this

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<v Speaker 3>country is that people are not fully vetting the candidates

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<v Speaker 3>that they're voting for, whether it's their party line voting,

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<v Speaker 3>or they're just saying, look, the FOP endorses them, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to vote for them, or you know, the IFF

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<v Speaker 3>or the fl c IO, I'm just going to vote

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<v Speaker 3>for him because that's who they're endorsed by.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the presumption is everybody the presumption I think, yes, Cannon,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry interrupt, but that the endorsements suggest that the

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<v Speaker 1>candidate that received the endorsement is tough or strong on

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement and tough on crime. It's the job of

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<v Speaker 1>the police department to arrest bad people, lock him up,

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<v Speaker 1>and let the prosecutor do her job here in the

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilton County. And that's why I at some point we

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<v Speaker 1>need to pivot over to why in the hell do

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<v Speaker 1>they endorse dree House over Hamilt County. Melissa prosecuted Melissa Powers,

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<v Speaker 1>who is very tough on crime.

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<v Speaker 3>Then Melissa Powers was endorsed.

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<v Speaker 1>You did endorse Melissa powers.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, great, great, Okay, I'm sorry I misspoke, but an

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<v Speaker 1>East Tree House Camp County commissioner, right right.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be honest with you, and I'm not on this committee,

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<v Speaker 3>even though obviously being the president. But that one, I

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<v Speaker 3>have no idea that was out of the head.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't point to you can't point to a paycheck

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<v Speaker 1>or a money that got infused into the sins Anty

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<v Speaker 1>Police apartment through Denise street House. So you just it's

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<v Speaker 1>a mystery endorsement. Appreciate your candor.

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<v Speaker 3>On that one. Yeah, that one, that one to me,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, I I have I don't know why

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<v Speaker 3>she was endorsed. I knew, I do know she was

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<v Speaker 3>the only county commissioner that showed up for the endorsement process.

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<v Speaker 3>But as far as why she was endorsed, that's something

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't I haven't talked to the committee about why.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, getting back to real quick, the law

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<v Speaker 3>and order people. You look at all of the people

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<v Speaker 3>that were h endorsed for judges, those are all people

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<v Speaker 3>that you're absolutely right, are tough on law. They're tough

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<v Speaker 3>on crime, law and order, which is exactly what we

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<v Speaker 3>look for in judges when we endorse them. When we

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<v Speaker 3>look at politicians, it's more about what is the mission

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<v Speaker 3>of the FOP as far as collective bargaining, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>bills that they've signed off on, you know previously, things

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<v Speaker 3>like that for incumbents.

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<v Speaker 2>But I I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's said, it's been a rough twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people are very passionate about politics, which

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<v Speaker 3>is fantastic. But what I encourages everybody to be actually

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<v Speaker 3>informed about what's going on with politics.

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<v Speaker 1>God, I wish more people were informed. That's like a

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<v Speaker 1>dream of mine. Can that people paid attention to politics,

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<v Speaker 1>what they're what they're elected officials stood for, what they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing for us, you know, or not at real time.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, weed dwellers like me who just spend their

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<v Speaker 1>time in immersed in politics all the time. I think

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<v Speaker 1>of more people immerse themselves in politics in a regular basis,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd all have much better elected officials. Sadly, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>live in that world.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you're you're absolutely right. I wish I wish the same.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I encourage everybody listen, please please fully vet

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<v Speaker 3>all of these people and make sure that they are

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<v Speaker 3>the best candidate for you. They're the ones that are

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<v Speaker 3>gonna best. They're gonna make your life the best. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, whatever part of the city or county you

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<v Speaker 1>Jeez, can what can I hold you over and ask

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<v Speaker 1>you about this? I saw you got interviewed by Channel

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen regarding testing for marijuana with a new detection tool. Yeah, great,

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<v Speaker 1>because weed is now legal in the state of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of get your reaction to that, what issues

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<v Speaker 1>you might be facing along those lines since we've had

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<v Speaker 1>medical in the state now for some time. But the

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<v Speaker 1>detection tool is what I'm really worried about, are concerned

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<v Speaker 1>about given the current status of Ohio law, which sucks

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of whether you're not you're really truly impaired

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<v Speaker 1>or not. But hold on more with FLP President Kan

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<v Speaker 1>Kober has been kind enough to join the program again,

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<v Speaker 1>which I truly appreciate. Six thirty seven right now, if

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<v Speaker 1>I have care see the talk station and something else.

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<v Speaker 1>I will recommend strongly if you got plumbing issues in

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<v Speaker 1>The motto they live by plumbing done right. Exceptional customer

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<v Speaker 1>service by licensed plumbers who are experts at what they do,

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<v Speaker 1>quoting you fair and ethical pricing and never trying to

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<v Speaker 1>say you anything you don't need, call them to let

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<v Speaker 1>you know when they're coming over. I love the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they will give you that advanced notice. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>the others just give you a window and your left guessing, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll get a window. But when they're on their way,

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<v Speaker 1>they give you a phone call in advance. Hey man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about fifteen minutes out. Whatever the case may be,

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<v Speaker 1>they will arrive. They will establish that exceptional customer service

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<v Speaker 1>assessing your plumbing job and giving you a free quote,

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<v Speaker 1>and for whatever reason, you don't hire them. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that being the case, considering how great they are.

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<v Speaker 1>No service charge. You're not gonna get charged for work

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<v Speaker 1>and ethical quote. From little projects, maybe just fixing a

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<v Speaker 1>from the top of the ORO News the return of

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<v Speaker 1>Brianna Morello would be Brionna Morello podcast. Who in the

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<v Speaker 1>hell is Tim Watas? In the meantime, I know who

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<v Speaker 1>came Cober is the president of the FOP Chapter sixty

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<v Speaker 1>nine represent the Sinnt Police Department, And they just came

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<v Speaker 1>out with their endorsements, and real quick here before we

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<v Speaker 1>pivot over to the marijuana testing, why no sheriff endorsement?

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<v Speaker 3>So the bottom line is, if that committee does not

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<v Speaker 3>reach a fifty one percent threshold, then they don't endorse anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that there was a lot of discussion that

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<v Speaker 3>was had about who they wanted to endorse and whether

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<v Speaker 3>they were going to endorse anybody. In the bottom line

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<v Speaker 3>is they couldn't come to an agreement, so we endorse nobody.

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<v Speaker 1>I find that a little troubling in and of itself. Anyhow,

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<v Speaker 1>I can see politically speaking, if you don't endorse the

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<v Speaker 1>current sheriff and the current sheriff remains in office, that

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<v Speaker 1>it might rub people the wrong way, and it might

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<v Speaker 1>hurt the relationship between the sincint Police Department and the

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilt County Sheriff's Department. I'd like to think cooler heads

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<v Speaker 1>would prevail in the name of protecting the community. But

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<v Speaker 1>we'll just let that one lie there again and your

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<v Speaker 1>answer on that one, Ken, hate to put you in

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<v Speaker 1>a corner, but that's the reality of where we stand

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Moving over to marijuana. It's legal in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>Standing around the corner waiting to buy it, Ken, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess everybody's really happy about legalized weed. But you can't

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<v Speaker 1>get high and drive. But detecting people who are high

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<v Speaker 1>behind the wheel is a lot more difficult than it

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<v Speaker 1>is for people who are drunk. You got a breathalyzer.

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<v Speaker 1>It tests the actual alcohol volume. And to my litigation

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<v Speaker 1>friends out there who do defenses of OBI, I know

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<v Speaker 1>all the problems associated with the breathalyzer test. Don't get

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<v Speaker 1>me going, but it does provide in most cases an

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<v Speaker 1>accurate level of alcohol. Under Ohio law, if you are

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<v Speaker 1>over point zero eight percent, you are considered legally drunk.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether or not you can walk a straight line or not,

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<v Speaker 1>you're considered impaired. What about weed, it's virtually impossible to

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<v Speaker 1>detect for weed unless you're staggering all over the place

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<v Speaker 1>with the sort of a field sobriety test. But that

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<v Speaker 3>No, it certainly doesn't. You With the two testing that

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<v Speaker 3>in a cup, you know. So what the state representatives

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<v Speaker 3>which is basically a mouth swab that then they can

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<v Speaker 3>they'll have the results. And it's not just the results

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<v Speaker 3>of the metabolite. Under this testing system that's used I

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<v Speaker 1>That time the actual THHC level.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so they do it tests for other drugs, not

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Now during that twenty four hour period, because one

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<v Speaker 1>you what's the status while that test that you're waiting

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<v Speaker 1>officer do with the person whose mouth they swabbed.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, in order to be able to test somebody for

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<v Speaker 3>you know, whether it's whether it's a urine test, a

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<v Speaker 3>breath test, a blood test, they have to already be

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<v Speaker 3>under arrest. So under under the law for ov I,

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<v Speaker 3>there is an A one A section which is the

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<v Speaker 3>officers observations and their experience and their training says that

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<v Speaker 3>you are too impaired to be driving, so you're already

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<v Speaker 3>going to be arrested. And then what the test does

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<v Speaker 3>is it confirms what the officers suspicions are now having done.

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<v Speaker 3>Ov i's a long long time ago. In my career,

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<v Speaker 3>we have had instances, and I've had them myself where

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<v Speaker 3>over themselves trying to drive a car and do field tests.

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<v Speaker 3>They can't stand straight, they can't walk straight, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you go in and you test them and they're under

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<v Speaker 3>the legal limits. That. Yeah, does that mean that they're

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<v Speaker 3>not impaired to be driving, Well, absolutely not. All it

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<v Speaker 3>says is they're under the per se level. And you,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, officers routinely get convictions still without them being

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<v Speaker 3>over what the per se level is.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And unfortunately, now all this is documented on video.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got video camera evidence confirming what the officers observe.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm comfortable with that, but it's essentially a probable cause level.

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<v Speaker 1>There has to be some evidence of impairment before they

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<v Speaker 1>can haul you in and get you a blood test

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<v Speaker 1>or urine test or alternatively in this case, there has

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<v Speaker 1>to be probable cause that they can even swab you

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<v Speaker 1>or get a urine test from you. Right, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to demonstrably be demonstrably impaired.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure. Yeah, it's not like you just swab them and go, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>You in exactly, okay, And I think that's a legitimate

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<v Speaker 1>concern among the members of the community, like, well, what

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<v Speaker 1>are they You're just gonna around swabbing everybody they pull over. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you have been pulled over for an offence weaving or

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<v Speaker 1>a wreck or whatever the case may be. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>predicate to determine whether you're impaired. And then if you

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<v Speaker 1>are determined to be impaired on the scene based upon observations,

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<v Speaker 1>then the follow up takes place. I appreciate that absolutely well.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the state of Ohian, you probably know all

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<v Speaker 1>about this ken having done it so often. Currently they

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<v Speaker 1>do a blood test for this. But if you smoked

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<v Speaker 1>a joint two weeks ago, or sometimes even a month ago,

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<v Speaker 1>the broken down version of THHG that is in your body,

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<v Speaker 1>it shows that you've smoked weed, but it does not

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<v Speaker 1>mean you are impaired. Nonetheless, in the law in the

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<v Speaker 1>state of Ohio, the law says you can still be

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<v Speaker 1>convicted of OBI just because it's floating around in your body.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just find that to be absolutely outrageous.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I completely agree with you. They're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 3>find out a way that they can test for at

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<v Speaker 3>that moment, YO, are they impaired? Because you're absolutely right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you could have somebody who clearly is not

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<v Speaker 3>impaired that under the per se level currently would be

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<v Speaker 3>considered impaired under the law, and that to me, you're

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely right. Is it's absurd that that's where we're at. However,

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<v Speaker 3>you also have to factor in, you know, if a

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<v Speaker 3>policeman stops you and you smoked a joint two weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're not showing any signs of impairment, the likelihood

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<v Speaker 3>of an officer getting you out of the car and going, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I need you to pee in this cup because I

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<v Speaker 3>think you smoke weed two weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just not.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna happen, Okay, but it.

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<v Speaker 3>Could, But you're absolutely right, it could.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it could. Let's just say you are an idiot

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<v Speaker 1>who goes around smoking weed in your car all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Your car has an odor inherent to the the regular

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<v Speaker 1>smoking of weed in the car, but you're not impaired.

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<v Speaker 1>If the office sticks his head in your window, he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna smell weed in there. That would provide a foundation

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<v Speaker 1>to do the swab, wouldn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>If they if they've developed probabill cause to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to rescue for ov I, they could do to swap. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>this is one the one time where I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 3>that it could come up without even showing a sign

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<v Speaker 3>of impairment. Would be routinely with serious and fatal crashes,

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<v Speaker 3>are trafficking, it comes out because someone's been killed in

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<v Speaker 3>an action, right, or they're critically injured. It's not uncommon

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<v Speaker 3>for them to ask for voluntary samples. Yo. So you

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<v Speaker 3>could be in your in you know, thinking you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm the victim of this crash, or I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>at fault for this. You know I have nothing to hide. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna give a voluntary sample because I know I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't do anything wrong, right, And then all of a

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<v Speaker 3>sudden they realize, ooh, I smoked weed a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>weeks ago. So that's where this could potentially come into.

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<v Speaker 1>Play, right, which I think probably your ov I lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>who specialize in this, would recommend you not voluntarily do

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<v Speaker 1>that if you have smoke weed in the at least

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat recent past, probably not a good idea. I tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what, Ken, it has been great having you on

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<v Speaker 1>the show today, answering these questions and uh well satisfying

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<v Speaker 1>our curiosity. Anyway. I appreciate your willingness to do so

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<v Speaker 1>on short notice, and I thank you for all that

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<v Speaker 1>you do. And we all, in spite of maybe one

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<v Speaker 1>truly fully support the Cincinnati to the Police Department and

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement here on the fifty five Cares in the morning show.

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<v Speaker 1>So God bless you, my friend. Keep up the good

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<v Speaker 1>work and best of health.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, thanks Brian, thanks for having me.

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