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<v Speaker 1>The Thinking Atheist. It's not a person, it's a symbol,

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<v Speaker 2>The population of atheists this country is going through.

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<v Speaker 1>The rule, rejecting faith, pursuing knowledge, challenging the sacred. If

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<v Speaker 2>Take the risk of thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel so much more happiness.

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<v Speaker 2>Truth, Fusian wisdom will come to you that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Assume nothing, question everything, and start thinking. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>Thinking Atheist podcast hosted by Seth Andrews.

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<v Speaker 2>So Natalie and I went to the theater to go

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<v Speaker 2>see the Odd to see on the big screen, and yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's amazing. I know there are a few who came

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<v Speaker 2>out who were underwhelmed, but they are a very few.

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<v Speaker 2>We went in, and we don't go to the theater

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<v Speaker 2>all that often anymore. I think some of it is

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<v Speaker 2>that our four K widescreen experiences at home have gotten better.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of it for me is the rudeness in theaters.

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<v Speaker 2>Big announcement comes on, please turn off your cell phone,

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<v Speaker 2>be quiet and courteous to others. Five minutes later, somebody

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<v Speaker 2>pulls a freaking cell phone out because they just can't

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<v Speaker 2>go ten minutes without scrolling social media or sending a

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<v Speaker 2>text about the movie they're watching. It just makes my

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<v Speaker 2>blood boil. And you know, occasionally there is a film

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<v Speaker 2>that comes out you're like, I got to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a theater experience. So we went to go

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<v Speaker 2>see it on a big premium screen in Tulsa and

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<v Speaker 2>it was. It was amazing, two hours, forty five minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>but that time just flew. I would totally go go

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<v Speaker 2>out and see it again tonight. And it gives me

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<v Speaker 2>great joy to see The Odyssey just raking in the

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<v Speaker 2>cash at the box office after so many of these

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<v Speaker 2>right wing agents of manufactured outrage were predicting its demise.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a woke movie. It's a di movie. This

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<v Speaker 2>is just social commentary. It's part of the culture war right,

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<v Speaker 2>Christopher Nolan, he's just pining four awards, which is why

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<v Speaker 2>he added such a diverse cast. What political correctness this is?

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk, have you beyond Donald Trump? Have we ever

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<v Speaker 2>seen a more malcontented, whiny, bitchy manchild. The guy has

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<v Speaker 2>almost a trillion dollars. He's freaking richer than rich richest

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<v Speaker 2>man On the planet, richest man in the history of man.

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<v Speaker 2>He should be on top of the world. He should

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<v Speaker 2>be happy, he should be living his best life. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you noticed that all he does is whine and complain

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<v Speaker 2>and agitate and stir the pot and just be childishly nasty.

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<v Speaker 2>Explain this to me. He has a mean streak and

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<v Speaker 2>a nasty restlessness. And I just think you of all people, right,

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<v Speaker 2>You're supposed to be the greatest American success story, and

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<v Speaker 2>all you do is bitch about life. What is it

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<v Speaker 2>about the Odyssey that bothers you so much? Well? He

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<v Speaker 2>and Ben Shapiro and Matt Walsh and a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>other right wingers, they've decided that this is nothing but

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<v Speaker 2>DEI nonsense. They would have offended Homer, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody explain the sexuality of the ancient Greeks. It's when

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<v Speaker 2>to go back and let's get into what all that was.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what he's thinking about. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>big they're actually two big problems for Elon and Ben Shapiro,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. Fox News they were losing their minds. The

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<v Speaker 2>first one, obviously, there is the casting of black actor

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<v Speaker 2>Lupita Niango as Helen of Troy. Well, they wanted apparently

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<v Speaker 2>another white person. They saw Diane Krueger as Helen of

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<v Speaker 2>Troy and the film Troy from like twenty years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, ah, yeah, the face that launches a

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<v Speaker 2>thousand ships would obviously be white. And I like Diane Krueger.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought she was so good in Inglorious Bastard's and

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<v Speaker 2>some other films, but I just never bought her. I

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<v Speaker 2>never saw the charisma in that particular film with Diane Krueger,

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<v Speaker 2>but I sure saw it with Lupita Niango in this one.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a magnetism there that that character requires. It was

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<v Speaker 2>so freaking good. And the people who were losing their

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<v Speaker 2>minds about the casting had not seen a frame of

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<v Speaker 2>the film beyond the trailer, right, They hadn't seen what

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<v Speaker 2>they were criticizing. And of course the big one transactor

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<v Speaker 2>Elliot Page as sign on. Except they thought that Elliot

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<v Speaker 2>Paige was playing Achilles. And there were whole there were

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<v Speaker 2>articles and blogs and YouTube protest videos and news reports

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<v Speaker 2>lamenting the fact that the Great Achilles would be played

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<v Speaker 2>by diminutive transactor Eliot Page. This is the stomping on

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<v Speaker 2>Homer's grave. I think that's what Elon Musk actually said.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like we're dancing, we're stomping on the grave of Homer.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course Elliot Page played sign On. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think sign On was actually a character in Homer's Odyssey.

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<v Speaker 2>I think sign On may have been added as a

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<v Speaker 2>character for the film version. And Elliot Page is really

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<v Speaker 2>really good. I didn't see it as stunt casting or

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<v Speaker 2>some DEI exercise. I mean Elliot Page, as Ellen Page

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<v Speaker 2>had already starred in a previous Christopher Nolan film, Inception,

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<v Speaker 2>which is one of my favorite movies of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a relationship. Elliot Page a fantastic actor. Why not?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the problem? What does this take away from Elon

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<v Speaker 2>Musk and Ben Shapiro and Matt Walsh in the host

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<v Speaker 2>of Fox News. They are simply stoking the culture war.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a woke exercise by people who don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>that true awesomeness is caucasion. Now, Elon Musk, he's got

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<v Speaker 2>his panties in such a wad over this that he

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<v Speaker 2>has decided he's going to use his Grock AI engine

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<v Speaker 2>to make his own full length AI Odyssey film and

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<v Speaker 2>release it. And I am guessing that that thing is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be so white you would be able to

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<v Speaker 2>see it from space. These conservative experts were predicting that

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<v Speaker 2>the film would fail. Americans don't want this, the world

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't want this. Why are you forcing diversity, equity inclusion

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<v Speaker 2>down our throats. The whole thing's going to crash and burn.

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<v Speaker 2>I look forward to seeing the egg on Christopher Nolan's face. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a minute. The thing opens to ninety seven percent

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<v Speaker 2>audience thumbs up reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>critics on Rotten Tomatoes are at ninety plus percent. It

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<v Speaker 2>made a ton of money in its opening weekend and

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<v Speaker 2>continues to vacuum up box office dollars. It is a

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<v Speaker 2>front runner for the Best Picture of twenty twenty six

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not even August yet. This thing is a

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<v Speaker 2>runaway success. And I would go back and see it

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<v Speaker 2>in the theater tonight. It's beautiful. Christopher Nolan, he sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>frustrates me. He's genius level smart. Sometimes I think he

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<v Speaker 2>outsmarts himself. But if you haven't seen the movie that

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<v Speaker 2>put him on the map, it's called Memento starring Guy Pierce.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a brain twister. It's a little bit of work.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you really got to pay attention. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>just leave and go to the bathroom and make popcorn

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<v Speaker 2>and come back and pick up where you left off.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to pay attention. But you will be rewarded

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<v Speaker 2>if you do. I mentioned inception, which I just love.

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<v Speaker 2>I see something new every time I watch the movie

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<v Speaker 2>The Dark Night, considered by many one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>superhero movies ever made. There's a lot to love about Interstellar,

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<v Speaker 2>although the ending confuses me. The last thirty minutes I

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<v Speaker 2>don't get I still don't get. I've had it explained

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<v Speaker 2>to me, and I don't get it. He's flying around

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<v Speaker 2>in the thing in the black hole, and there's a

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<v Speaker 2>library made of string that takes them through time, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's able to go communicate with his daughter when she

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<v Speaker 2>was a child using the floating dust and something about

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<v Speaker 2>the universal power of love transcending space.

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<v Speaker 4>Time and what.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't understand that I didn't huh, But I mean

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<v Speaker 2>there's some amazing stuff in it. Dunkirk. Actually, I'm one

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<v Speaker 2>of the few people who didn't fall ahead over heels

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<v Speaker 2>for Dunkirk. I just didn't. I mean, everybody's like it's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the greatest war movies ever made. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>the story of Dunkirk, but I left the movie theater irritated.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's because of one common problem that Christopher Nolan has,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when he teams up with composer Hans Zimmer, not always,

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<v Speaker 2>but often, and that has to do with an irritating

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<v Speaker 2>sound design that makes the movie harder to appreciate. Anybody

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<v Speaker 2>remember Bain's voice in the Dark Knight Rises. It was

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<v Speaker 2>purposefully made to be hard to understand. Listen to Christopher

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<v Speaker 2>Nolan talk about it. I mean they even had to

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<v Speaker 2>go back and clean it up in post production because

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<v Speaker 2>it was so bad, and it was still very hard

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<v Speaker 2>to understand. Yes, the fire rose ough irritating, and Dunkirk,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when Tom Hardy's flying the plane over the ocean

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<v Speaker 2>and the ships are going it's like two and a

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<v Speaker 2>half hours of having a voove Zela horn jammed into

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<v Speaker 2>your ear canal. Just I mean, it was irritating. Interstellar

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<v Speaker 2>had a few of those types of audio issues. Tenant

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<v Speaker 2>Tenant sound. The dialogue in Tenant is almost impossible to

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<v Speaker 2>understand without captions. I tried it again at home. I

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<v Speaker 2>had to turn captions on for a movie spoken in

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<v Speaker 2>my native language. By the way, somebody explained the plot

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<v Speaker 2>of Tenant to me. Even a fan, if you're a

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<v Speaker 2>fan of the movie, explain Tenant to me. So it

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<v Speaker 2>was interesting to look at. But I left with kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a what the hell expression on my face, swung

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<v Speaker 2>for the fences and missed with Tenant. But I appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>the ambition. At least it wasn't a formula film. Oppenheimer,

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, name for me a better film about the

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<v Speaker 2>Manhattan Project. I mean, and I loved Fat Man and

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<v Speaker 2>Little Boy and its depiction of Robert Oppenheimer. But Oppenheimer

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<v Speaker 2>the film outstanding, and the film after that, The Odyssey.

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<v Speaker 2>It challenges you, it entertains you, and there's some stuff

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<v Speaker 2>on screen that I'm like, how did they do that? Practically,

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<v Speaker 2>get a ticket, go see it afterwards, we'll talk, okay. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to start with a little film recommendation.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we all like to do our movie reviews

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<v Speaker 2>as if we know what we're talking about. We all

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<v Speaker 2>like to go and say I saw it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>give it five stars, but I'm giving it I'll give

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<v Speaker 2>it five or at least four and a half. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pushing five stars. I had that much fun. Nice

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<v Speaker 2>to be rewarded when you pay that much for a

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<v Speaker 2>movie ticket. Okay, let me take a hard turn here

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<v Speaker 2>and tell you about something that just crossed my newsfeed.

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<v Speaker 2>My algorithm is just awesome. You just never know. For example,

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<v Speaker 2>I might see something political the news of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>The next post might be something about the Satanic Temple,

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<v Speaker 2>and the documentary about TST is now trending again on HBO.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called Hail Satan. After that, there might be a

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<v Speaker 2>clip from a bad eighties movie, because I love bad

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<v Speaker 2>eighties movies. And then look, there's something from the Baptist

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<v Speaker 2>news site. This article just posted a few days ago.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess I got to start with the scenario.

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<v Speaker 2>So clear your mind and let me make the picture.

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<v Speaker 2>You build the image in your brain. Okay, So picture

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<v Speaker 2>the typical right wing evangelical conservative dude in the manosphere

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<v Speaker 2>in a culture where we see Mark Driscoll. He's asserting

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<v Speaker 2>that men need to run the world. You've got Pastor

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<v Speaker 2>Douglas Wilson, he wants to repeal the Nineteenth Amendment. You

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<v Speaker 2>got the Southern Baptist Convention. They just banned women from preaching.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got this whole idea that God is the head

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<v Speaker 2>of man, and man is the head of everything and

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<v Speaker 2>everyone else. How convenient for them. But men struggle with lust,

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<v Speaker 2>and women are the object of lust, those women who

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<v Speaker 2>refuse to dress modestly but actually show their shape, or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe even when they don't. And a man's imagination goes

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<v Speaker 2>he's over there hot and sweaty, but he doesn't get

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<v Speaker 2>blasted for shoving his nakedness in anybody else's face. No, No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the woman. That's not the Harlot, the Jezebel. She's

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<v Speaker 2>but he sees them only as objects. He only perceives nakedness.

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<v Speaker 2>to themselves or other people yet, I'm going to create

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<v Speaker 2>a big box full of sweaty men. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>what happens next. Right, And the people, the people who

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<v Speaker 2>easy example Ted Haggard megapastor Denver, Colorado. He's preaching against

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<v Speaker 2>gays every freaking five minutes. When he is exposed. What

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<v Speaker 2>is he exposed doing. He's sexting a dude in his congregation.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me pull up that Christopher Hitchins quote about the moralizers.

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<v Speaker 2>evils of sodomy or whatever, I mentally enter his name

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<v Speaker 2>in my notebook and contentedly set my watch sooner rather

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<v Speaker 2>than later, he'll be discovered down on his weary and

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<v Speaker 2>well over the odds to be peed upon by some

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<v Speaker 2>apache transvestite. And you and I already going through the

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<v Speaker 2>Rolodex in our brains. Of the pulpit pounders who were

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<v Speaker 2>later exposed. Jimmy Swagger was big in the eighties televangelist,

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<v Speaker 2>televangelist who was on stage and he was moralizing left

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<v Speaker 2>and right, that guy paid more prostitutes. Okay, fine, engage

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<v Speaker 2>a sex worker, right, I mean that's legitimate work, that's fine,

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<v Speaker 2>But aren't you on stage preaching the exact opposite of

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<v Speaker 2>what you're doing. I pulled it up online, because the

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<v Speaker 2>Internet has everything almost With a Google search, I was

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<v Speaker 2>able to take us back forty some years as Jimmy

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<v Speaker 2>He's standing in front of like twenty thousand people in

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<v Speaker 2>an auditorium. This sermon broadcast globally two millions, and he

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<v Speaker 2>Check this out.

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<v Speaker 5>I have sinned against you, my lord, and I would

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<v Speaker 3>Wood wash and clints.

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<v Speaker 7>Until it is in deceas of God's forgetfulness.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, h yeah, Is he still alive? Hang on,

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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy swaggered. Jimmy swaggered. Oh he died. Oh he died

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<v Speaker 2>just last year, July the first. His wiki page has

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<v Speaker 2>him known for scandals involving prostitutes in nineteen eighty eight

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<v Speaker 2>and nineteen ninety one, and he was associated with revolutionary

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<v Speaker 2>groups accused of war crimes in Southern Africa. He had

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<v Speaker 2>the Gospel. Well lucky us. Anyway, short break, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to take your calls and find out what's on your mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Next next week, I'm releasing the video and the audio

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<v Speaker 2>from the recent event with myself and No Illusions on

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<v Speaker 2>stage in Cincinnati. A lot of people who couldn't make

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<v Speaker 2>it to the event. Will you release it online? The

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<v Speaker 2>so I'll have an audio version here and a video version.

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<v Speaker 2>It's two and a half hours of really good stuff

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<v Speaker 2>I think you will enjoy real fast. Before I go

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<v Speaker 2>to the switchboard, a piece of housekeeping that is being

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<v Speaker 2>forced upon me and is being forced upon Patreon. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so Patreon has made an announcement that November one, everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be required to switch their subscription model. Some

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<v Speaker 2>people right now can choose. They can choose to support

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<v Speaker 2>me with a certain dollar amount every month, or they

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<v Speaker 2>can support me with a certain amount per post, per

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<v Speaker 2>thing that I upload. Well, Apple is saying no, we're

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<v Speaker 2>to keep your access to using our app for releases,

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest podcast app on the planet right if you

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<v Speaker 2>really want us as part of the release options, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't use the per post model. It's subscription only. We

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<v Speaker 2>require it, And so now Patreon's hand has been forced

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<v Speaker 2>the deadline November the first. If you are a patron

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<v Speaker 2>doing a per upload sponsorship, you're going to need to

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<v Speaker 2>go and make the switch, or I think Patreon might

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<v Speaker 2>make it for you. You to get in front of that,

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<v Speaker 2>just log onto your account and subscribe for whatever dollar

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<v Speaker 2>amount you want per month. If you are not a patron,

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<v Speaker 2>I would encourage you or ask for your support, and

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<v Speaker 2>when you sign up, it is a monthly subscription, a

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<v Speaker 2>you get on the show. Sorry for the trouble. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Patreon staff is just as frustrated as all the

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<v Speaker 2>content creators out there. Just a big and unnecessary switch.

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<v Speaker 2>But Apple's like, oh yeah, well, screw everybody, We do

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<v Speaker 2>what we want. We're Apple, and many of us rely

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<v Speaker 2>ultimate catch twenty two. Okay, let's go to the phones.

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<v Speaker 2>Greg is dialing in from area code for zero nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome Greg, Are you there?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh yes, we're just a couple of things. I did

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<v Speaker 8>want a story out, and I'll try and take you

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<v Speaker 8>too much time.

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<v Speaker 2>For your funnel.

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<v Speaker 8>I am not a caller, but number one, I'm almost sixty.

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<v Speaker 8>About six years ago, I drive a lot for work.

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<v Speaker 8>Hitchins got his great audio books started the ball rolling

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<v Speaker 8>on my deconstruction. I was a full blown Southern Baptist,

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<v Speaker 8>indoctrinated from birth Christian. The next book that got me

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<v Speaker 8>was Doctor Richard Dawkins, and then yours was the one

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<v Speaker 8>that finally helped me shut the door on this. And

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<v Speaker 8>it was because the Hitchens and Dawkins, two beautiful authors

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<v Speaker 8>and masters the English language. Where you got me was

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<v Speaker 8>here's a guy in Oklahoma. I'm down here in Southeast Texas.

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<v Speaker 8>He raised just like me, dealt with all this and

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<v Speaker 8>it just I just want to share with you. And

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<v Speaker 8>I was fortunate enough to come to hear you at

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<v Speaker 2>So wow.

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<v Speaker 8>Anyway, I wanted to ask the ten Commandments, which we

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<v Speaker 8>now have posted and my eight grandkids have to endure

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<v Speaker 8>starts a litany of I think the first one is pale.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, if a slave creates a family while he's

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<v Speaker 8>enslaved and he's free, he has to leave his wife

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<v Speaker 8>and children with the master. The next one goes on

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<v Speaker 8>to how a father can prostitute his daughter legally, And

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<v Speaker 8>it goes on, how come these ten got all the

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<v Speaker 8>attention and nobody pays attention to the next fifteen or

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<v Speaker 8>so that come after. It would be one question.

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<v Speaker 2>Now punctuate the frustration. Plus, I think the first four

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<v Speaker 2>commandments have nothing to do with behavior. They're all about

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<v Speaker 2>God's vanity. Thou shall have Noah, thou shalt love the Lord.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, come on, give me a break, right, And.

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<v Speaker 8>The next question I've got for you. I am from

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<v Speaker 8>seventy miles east of Houston. I did live in California

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<v Speaker 8>for about eight years, about fifteen years ago, and that

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<v Speaker 8>ruined Texas even more for me? How have you dealt

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<v Speaker 8>with everywhere I go? I have gotten to where I'm

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<v Speaker 8>in the last six years, damn near a hermit because

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<v Speaker 8>I can't stand to be around these people. And plus,

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<v Speaker 8>I have Asperger's. I can't get it out of my

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<v Speaker 8>head what they've done. How do you go out and

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<v Speaker 8>about and lead your life in a more protective manner

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<v Speaker 8>than I am doing right now? Once you've seen who

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<v Speaker 8>these people really are and you're surrounded with them.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I crawl everywhere in the prone position. Greg That's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much how I navigate the state of Oklahoma. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a guy at the end of my street. I took

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<v Speaker 2>so it acts as kind of a de facto billboard

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this is what we have to deal with.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've distanced myself from a lot of people. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel a tremendous sense of resentment, not just that they

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<v Speaker 2>voted for the insanity that's around us, but even those

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<v Speaker 2>people who were kind of quiet quitting Trump, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, eh, we didn't know he was going

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<v Speaker 2>to do this. We didn't realize it was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be like that. And they're playing that card. They're still

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<v Speaker 2>not standing shoulder to shoulder with me to protest it.

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<v Speaker 2>They just went mute. And I resent that, you coward,

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<v Speaker 2>get off the fucking couch. You know, Fascism is all

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<v Speaker 2>around us, white supremacies around us, hate and cruelty and

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<v Speaker 2>suffering and all this stuff. And I just don't think

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<v Speaker 2>they get to decide to quietly leave the club without consequence.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're truly full of regret, then get your ass

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<v Speaker 2>out here and let's undo some of the damage that

416
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<v Speaker 2>your vote did. And because they don't, I have withdrawn

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<v Speaker 2>from them. So my circle has gotten smaller. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't you know, there was some greg who think I

419
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<v Speaker 2>should continue to engage them to try to help them

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<v Speaker 2>reverse course further. Maybe there's a way to encourage them

421
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<v Speaker 2>to join me that I've missed, but I'm out of patience.

422
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<v Speaker 2>I just don't want to be around them, and that's

423
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<v Speaker 2>I think ten years produces a lot of scard tissue.

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<v Speaker 2>You must feel the same way if you become a hermit.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh very much so. And my wife deconstructed shortly after

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<v Speaker 8>I did. She was a cradle Catholic. I'll show you

427
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<v Speaker 8>where she was at when we started going. She goes, yeah,

428
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<v Speaker 8>but I don't believe in hell, and that kind of

429
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<v Speaker 8>started me. Actually, if I give you my credit, it's

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<v Speaker 8>kind of her in the very first But we've been

431
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<v Speaker 8>together about sixteen years. But I have gotten to where

432
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<v Speaker 8>and I've heard you talk about DoorDash before we door

433
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<v Speaker 8>dash all week in long. I don't want to go anywhere.

434
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<v Speaker 8>I don't want to be in restaurants with these people,

435
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<v Speaker 8>and it's just very frustrating. And I know that says

436
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<v Speaker 8>more about me than it does them, but I was

437
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<v Speaker 8>just kind of curious how you've dealt with that. And

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<v Speaker 8>I've got one last question. The word cacistocracy is the

439
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<v Speaker 8>most accurate term I have found what we're living through.

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<v Speaker 8>Why is that not being used.

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<v Speaker 2>More weavin I've never heard the word. Is it a

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<v Speaker 2>C or a K It's a k.

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<v Speaker 8>K k istocracy and it simply means government by the

444
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<v Speaker 8>worst of the country and that's literally you can you

445
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<v Speaker 8>look it up. I just don't understand. I think this

446
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<v Speaker 8>is the first time in my six decades we really

447
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<v Speaker 8>are under a cacistocracy. And anyway, I just wanted to

448
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<v Speaker 8>throw them down there at the end. But I sure

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<v Speaker 8>appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you, Greg, I appreciate the kind words

451
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<v Speaker 2>about the book. So you were like me, right, Adam

452
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<v Speaker 2>and Eve in the garden and you salute the flag

453
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<v Speaker 2>under God and the pledge. We are a Christian nation.

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<v Speaker 2>We walk those steps together.

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<v Speaker 8>I was the Texas State Bible Drill champion at twelve

456
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<v Speaker 8>years old.

457
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<v Speaker 2>Now, explain Bible drill to people who don't know what

458
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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 8>They take indoctrinated children in evangelical churches and they do

460
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<v Speaker 8>speed searches for Bible verses, so they'll throw out, you know,

461
00:28:50.200 --> 00:28:53.599
<v Speaker 8>find Philippians such and such, and whoever gets at first wins.

462
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<v Speaker 8>And at twelve years old, I went to the through

463
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<v Speaker 8>the regionals in some state thing that I can't remember,

464
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<v Speaker 8>and I was the state Bible Girl champ at twelve

465
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<v Speaker 8>years old.

466
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<v Speaker 2>There was a Christian TV station that had the Bible

467
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<v Speaker 2>Bowl and it was a televised game show. Yeah, and

468
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<v Speaker 2>it was in the round and there were kids all

469
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<v Speaker 2>all around and they would bring two contestants up family

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<v Speaker 2>feud style and they would throw out a verse or

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<v Speaker 2>a word or whatever. Some associative thing, and there was

472
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<v Speaker 2>a buzzer and then whoever was able to recite chapter

473
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<v Speaker 2>and verse first would win that round. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was wild, and I remember wanting as a kid

475
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<v Speaker 2>to go and participate in the Bible Bowl. I just

476
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<v Speaker 2>thought they'd be amazing to be on TV doing the

477
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<v Speaker 2>Word for Christ kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 8>And the thing that's best about it though, I know

479
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:47.039
<v Speaker 8>that thing backwards, forwards, up and down better than any

480
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<v Speaker 8>frushing I know. And when you try to point out

481
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<v Speaker 8>things in it, and you know, obviously we've you know,

482
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<v Speaker 8>I've heard you do this for all these years. But

483
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<v Speaker 8>you try and point out, it's just they have got

484
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<v Speaker 8>such a lock on this is the Bible. God, that's it.

485
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<v Speaker 8>I believe it. And to where when you point out, well, no,

486
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<v Speaker 8>that's not really what this is. And Jesus never said

487
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<v Speaker 8>a single word about abortion, he never said a single

488
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<v Speaker 8>word about gays. It's just they've got it so indoctrinated

489
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<v Speaker 8>that Jesus did that. That's where you know they go.

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<v Speaker 8>And it's just the Dunning Kruger here in southeast Texas

491
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<v Speaker 8>is amazing. I'd have to find the article we were

492
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<v Speaker 8>Jefferson County, Texas is quite literally the least educated county

493
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<v Speaker 8>in all of the United States, and it shows. But

494
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<v Speaker 8>like I said, it's not productive in the four years

495
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<v Speaker 8>I have before retirement to live in my house and

496
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<v Speaker 8>not go out amongst of them. So just was kind

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<v Speaker 8>of kind of curious you approach. What do appreciate it?

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<v Speaker 2>You man? I mean, I think, go where you're accepted,

499
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:51.839
<v Speaker 2>go where you're comfortable, and enjoy your retirement. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>your enthusiasm and goodwill. I appreciate the kind words about

501
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:59.319
<v Speaker 2>the book. You know, Deconverted was not it ain't Hitchens right.

502
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm proud of it. At the same time,

503
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<v Speaker 2>I know it's just some schlub mashing away at a

504
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<v Speaker 2>keyboard telling his story. I know I am not a

505
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<v Speaker 2>great mind. I'm just but I think maybe that's part

506
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<v Speaker 2>of the appeal. I think a lot of people are like, oh,

507
00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:17.359
<v Speaker 2>some dude is on a similar journey as to what

508
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<v Speaker 2>I took, and I can relate to it, and there's

509
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<v Speaker 2>power in that. So I've stopped apologizing for my own

510
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:26.680
<v Speaker 2>work as much. So I was glad to hear you

511
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<v Speaker 2>say that.

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<v Speaker 6>Greg.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 8>I will say you do not need to apologize in

515
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<v Speaker 8>the least I am a college professor also, and your

516
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:38.039
<v Speaker 8>book hit me where I needed it to meet me.

517
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<v Speaker 8>So there is no Yes. Hitchens and doctor Dawkins are

518
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<v Speaker 8>just masters of the English language in a way I

519
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:46.359
<v Speaker 8>will never be. But your book was the one that

520
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:49.799
<v Speaker 8>hit me right in the soul. If I can say

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<v Speaker 8>it that way.

522
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<v Speaker 2>No, I feel you.

523
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<v Speaker 8>I need it at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm feel you well. Thank you, Greg, and I appreciate

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00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:57.240
<v Speaker 2>you so much being a part of the conversation today.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get into this. Is it cacus stock?

527
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<v Speaker 2>Am I saying it right?

528
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:02.000
<v Speaker 7>Yes?

529
00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:02.839
<v Speaker 3>Or kak?

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<v Speaker 8>And then the rest is just like.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm gonna I gotta look this up. So you

532
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:09.480
<v Speaker 2>educated me and I'm going to dive a little deeper.

533
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<v Speaker 2>You'd be safe out there.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, Okay, hey, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me see you later. You know, now that I

536
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<v Speaker 2>think of it, congratulations. You just named this week's podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>How can I not call it cacustocracy. I pulled up

538
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<v Speaker 2>a website on this big think dot Com has an explanation.

539
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<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to read it cold. It talks first

540
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<v Speaker 2>about prefixes in front of our words, which are often

541
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<v Speaker 2>derived from Greek terms. Demo means people, so it's democracy.

542
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:48.079
<v Speaker 2>Auto means one, so it's autocracy, aristos excellent or aristocracy,

543
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<v Speaker 2>but cacistocracy it means worst rule a government buy the

544
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:58.960
<v Speaker 2>worst or least qualified people, like kleptocracy, rule by thieves,

545
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:03.680
<v Speaker 2>plut chrissy ruled by the rich. No government has ever

546
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<v Speaker 2>claimed to be any of these things, but it is

547
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:10.960
<v Speaker 2>a common insult of late What does it mean? Typically

548
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:13.960
<v Speaker 2>the word is used as an insult toward those who

549
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<v Speaker 2>are seen as too moronic to be in government. The

550
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<v Speaker 2>previously obscure word dates back to the English Civil War

551
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<v Speaker 2>and has made a comeback in the last few decades.

552
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<v Speaker 2>It regained popularity in the nineteen eighties, was aimed at

553
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<v Speaker 2>dan Quayil several times after that, and is currently so

554
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<v Speaker 2>popular that even the Miriam Webster Twitter feed had to

555
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<v Speaker 2>chime in, oh I got to come back to dan Quayle.

556
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<v Speaker 2>There's a memory with George H. W. Bush and his

557
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<v Speaker 2>vice president, dan Quayle. The guy was an idiot. What

558
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<v Speaker 2>is meant by the least qualified? The article continues, That's

559
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:57.200
<v Speaker 2>a good question. While Machiavelli would suggest there are objectively

560
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<v Speaker 2>good virtues for statesmen to have, there's going to be

561
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<v Speaker 2>general disagreement on what those are or how to live

562
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<v Speaker 2>up to them. Even if we judge a ruler based

563
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<v Speaker 2>on the consequences of their rule, how much do we

564
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:13.239
<v Speaker 2>say was their work and how much was luck? Such

565
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:17.880
<v Speaker 2>large questions tend to get swept aside, though some commentators

566
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:20.840
<v Speaker 2>do address them in a limited way, and it starts

567
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<v Speaker 2>to list some cacistockracis. Now I got to dive into this.

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<v Speaker 2>It begins with Romulus Augustus, ruling from four seventy five

569
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<v Speaker 2>to four seventy six C. The last emperor of Western Rome.

570
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<v Speaker 2>Romulus Augustus was ironically named for the founders of the

571
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<v Speaker 2>city and the empire. A usurper, his father took over

572
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<v Speaker 2>the government and placed his son on the throne. This

573
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<v Speaker 2>made him few friends, and the eastern half of the

574
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:57.119
<v Speaker 2>empire never recognized him. He is most notable for refusing

575
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<v Speaker 2>to surrender most of Italy to barbarians invaders. Those invaders

576
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<v Speaker 2>then killed his father, sacked the capital, Ravenna, and compelled

577
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Augustus to abdicate. The Senate then appealed to the Eastern

578
00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:14.559
<v Speaker 2>Roman Empire to reunite Rome rather than have to find

579
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:19.119
<v Speaker 2>a new emperor for themselves. His abdication is typically viewed

580
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<v Speaker 2>as the official fall of the Western Roman Empire, a

581
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<v Speaker 2>notable enough failure to make it to our list. Next up,

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<v Speaker 2>they have a photograph of Nicholas the Second of Russia.

583
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<v Speaker 2>Eighteen ninety four to nineteen seventeen was his reign. He

584
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<v Speaker 2>was the final Czar of Russia. He had no business

585
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<v Speaker 2>running an empire. His father failed to educate him on

586
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<v Speaker 2>how to rule, never even granting him a ministry before

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<v Speaker 2>his ascension to the throne. This left Nicholas utterly unprepared

588
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<v Speaker 2>to rule anything. He meddled in the affairs of the

589
00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Church in hopes of increasing the odds he had a son,

590
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<v Speaker 2>only took steps to protect his Jewish subjects from Pegram's reluctantly.

591
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<v Speaker 2>Was so detached from his responsibilities that he continued to

592
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<v Speaker 2>play tennis after learning that the Russian fleet had been annihilated.

593
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<v Speaker 2>At one point during the nineteen oh five Revolution, he

594
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<v Speaker 2>was so ideologically against accepting a constitution as part of

595
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<v Speaker 2>a peace deal that his uncle and the chief of

596
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<v Speaker 2>the army, Grand Duke Nicholas, had to hold a gun

597
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<v Speaker 2>to his own head and threatened suicide before the czar

598
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<v Speaker 2>would accept the peace deal. His Court was a madhouse

599
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<v Speaker 2>run by favorites, which allowed for such unsavory characters such

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<v Speaker 2>as Resputin to come to hold great power and influence.

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<v Speaker 2>He was overthrown in nineteen seventeen and shot in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen by Communist revolutionaries. This is a fascinating list. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to continue. James Buchanan eighteen fifty seven to eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixty one the the fifteenth and worst president of the

605
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<v Speaker 2>United States. I'm gonna say this is an older article.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this may be a tad dated. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to scroll up to see the date, but I

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<v Speaker 2>mean worst. Hey, hang on, the worst president of the

609
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<v Speaker 2>United States in almost every ranking. Buchanan's administration was filled

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<v Speaker 2>with missteps, ideological purity to the point of insanity, and

611
00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:30.960
<v Speaker 2>grave misreading of popular sentiment. From day one, before he

612
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<v Speaker 2>was even inaugurated, Buchanan encouraged the Supreme Court to make

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<v Speaker 2>as broad and pro southern a ruling in the Dread

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<v Speaker 2>Scott case as possible, in an attempt to put the

615
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<v Speaker 2>slavery debate to rest forever. I got to jump out

616
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<v Speaker 2>real fast and explain Dred Scott was an enslaved African

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<v Speaker 2>American back in This is right before the Civil War,

618
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<v Speaker 2>and he and his wife Harriet had sued to free

619
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<v Speaker 2>themselves and their two daughters. And so this to court

620
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<v Speaker 2>in eighteen fifty seven dred Scott versus Sanford. They argue

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<v Speaker 2>that because dred Scott had lived in Illinois and parts

622
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<v Speaker 2>of the Wisconsin territory, that he should not be held

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<v Speaker 2>as a slave. Slavery was illegal in those northern regions therefore,

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<v Speaker 2>and it all went to court and he lost. That

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<v Speaker 2>was a famous case that went to the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 2>seven to decision against him. Back to the article. President

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<v Speaker 2>Buchanan was shocked to find that those opposed to slavery

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<v Speaker 2>were further enraged by the ruling. He went to fumble

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<v Speaker 2>the issue of admitting Kansas to the Union so badly

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<v Speaker 2>that it split the Democratic Party. A committee designed to

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<v Speaker 2>investigate potentially impeachable offenses found his administration was the most

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<v Speaker 2>corrupt in American history. He's most often vilified for his

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<v Speaker 2>lame reaction to Southern secession after Lincoln's election, as he

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<v Speaker 2>believed both secession and federal intervention against it illegal and

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<v Speaker 2>did nothing. He even got his legacy wrong, remarking on

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<v Speaker 2>his deathbed that he would be vindicated. While most of

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<v Speaker 2>the examples were monarchs who were put into power and

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<v Speaker 2>difficult to remove, the inclusion of an elected official shows

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<v Speaker 2>how occasionally people will vote in utter incompetence to run

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<v Speaker 2>a country. You think, you think. While the question of

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<v Speaker 2>if these three governments were the worst can be debated,

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<v Speaker 2>there is no doubt that these three leaders had no

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<v Speaker 2>business ruling when their decisions, motivations, and results are considered.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the United States a cacistocracy? Perhaps, though the seriousness

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<v Speaker 2>of the word means it is one not to be

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<v Speaker 2>tossed around lightly, as it would impair our ability to

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<v Speaker 2>use it later. There have undoubtedly been governments run by

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<v Speaker 2>the worst possible ministers and rulers before than it is

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<v Speaker 2>likely to happen again. The article that Big Think by

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<v Speaker 2>Scottie Hendricks. Okay, let me scroll up and see the

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<v Speaker 2>date on this April sixteenth, twenty eighteen. Scotty buddy, if

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<v Speaker 2>you meant that Buchanan was the worst president of all

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<v Speaker 2>time period, we got some trouble there. But if you

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<v Speaker 2>were saying that Buchanan was the worst president to that time,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just a poor use of language.

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<v Speaker 4>F y.

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<v Speaker 2>I Now let me come back to dan Quayle, and

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<v Speaker 2>I pulled up a couple of audio clips. There are

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<v Speaker 2>whole websites dedicated to some of the crazy and dumb

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<v Speaker 2>ass Cacus stock Ristie style shit that dan Quayle said

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<v Speaker 2>when he was Vice President of the United States sunder

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<v Speaker 2>George HW. Bush from nineteen eighty nine to nineteen ninety three.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just well, let's start with this one. As

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<v Speaker 2>dan Quayle educated the world on Hitlerism.

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<v Speaker 7>Millions in people lost their lives because of the bigotry

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<v Speaker 7>and Hitlerism that permeated Germany and other parts of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an.

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<v Speaker 9>Obscene period in our nation's history, not our nations.

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<v Speaker 2>But in World War Two. I mean we all lived.

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<v Speaker 9>In this century. I didn't live in the century, but

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<v Speaker 9>in this century's history because we did not have a

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<v Speaker 9>matter of fact, we fought Hitlerism, which was atalitarian form

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<v Speaker 9>of government.

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<v Speaker 2>Now imagine four years of stuff like that, plus the

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<v Speaker 2>time on the campaign trail. The acoustics in dan Quayle's

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<v Speaker 2>skull must be amazing. He once said, I was recently

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<v Speaker 2>on a tour of Latin America, and the only regret

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<v Speaker 2>I have was that I didn't study Latin harder in

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<v Speaker 2>school so I could converse with those people. Republicans understand

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<v Speaker 2>the importance of bondage between a mother and child. He

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<v Speaker 2>once said, I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 2>September fifth, nineteen ninety, he said for NASA, space is

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<v Speaker 2>still a high priority. He actually uttered the words it

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<v Speaker 2>isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in

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<v Speaker 2>our air and water that are doing it. Hang on,

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<v Speaker 2>here's just another short montage of Quail in his own voice.

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<v Speaker 10>The question is whether we're going to go forward to

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<v Speaker 10>tomorrow or we're going to go past to the back.

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<v Speaker 11>And I can tell you listen.

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<v Speaker 10>We don't want to go back to tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 9>We want to move forward.

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<v Speaker 8>I believe that I've made good.

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<v Speaker 10>Judgments in the pass, and I think I've made good

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<v Speaker 10>judgments in the future, and the future will be better tomorrow. Well,

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<v Speaker 10>Bobby Knight told me this.

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<v Speaker 5>He says, there.

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<v Speaker 10>Is nothing at a good defense cannot be a better offense.

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<v Speaker 9>In other words, a.

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<v Speaker 10>Good offense wins. I was known as the chief grave

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<v Speaker 10>robber of my state. I have a very strong record

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<v Speaker 10>on the environment in the United States. Center why it

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<v Speaker 10>has always been a very pivotal role in the Pacific.

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<v Speaker 2>It is in the Pacific part of the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>That is an island that is right here, Hawaii. It

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<v Speaker 2>is an island in the Pacific. Thank you, Vice President

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Quayle cacustocracy. Okay, Well, I can't do quail if

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<v Speaker 2>I don't bounce forward and do Trump. The problem is,

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<v Speaker 2>after a decade of daily insanity and stupidity, how do

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<v Speaker 2>you even begin? But I want to start with this clip, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And it just posted a few days ago. It was

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<v Speaker 2>made by a guy who kind of does what the

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<v Speaker 2>good liars do and the Daily Show does. They go

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<v Speaker 2>out to these Trump rallies and interview people to try

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<v Speaker 2>to find out if they know what in the actual

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<v Speaker 2>hell they are talking about. The guy in question here,

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<v Speaker 2>his name is Dean Withers, and he was out at

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<v Speaker 2>a Trump rally. There was somebody dressed up as they

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<v Speaker 2>always are, in Trump paraphernalia, and he had a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>about Biden creeping on women. Check this out.

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<v Speaker 6>Something actually came out this morning that was huge, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>because we got another release from a House subcommittee about

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<v Speaker 6>the Epstein files. And you're not going to believe this,

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<v Speaker 6>but what came out was an audio clip that's been

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<v Speaker 6>verified of Joe Biden saying that he likes to walk

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<v Speaker 6>into the dressing rooms of naked women and naked girls

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<v Speaker 6>to look at them. What do you think should happen

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<v Speaker 6>to a man that does that? I think they should

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<v Speaker 6>go to jail, even if they're like the sitting president.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, no, end's above the law, right.

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<v Speaker 6>Even if it was Trump? Sure, sure, So I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 6>be honest, I lied to you. The audio is not

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<v Speaker 6>of Joe Biden saying that he likes to go into

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<v Speaker 6>the changing rooms and naked women. The audios of Trump

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<v Speaker 6>saying it, let's go and take a listen. We had

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<v Speaker 6>another twenty seconds.

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<v Speaker 5>You it's your obligation to do that.

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<v Speaker 6>So you have done.

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<v Speaker 5>Is then I'll go backstage before show and everyone's getting dressed.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm ready and everything else and no pay where allowed

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<v Speaker 5>to go on because I'm the owner of the pageant

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<v Speaker 5>and therefore I'm inspecting it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, guys will be guys, right, haven't you said

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<v Speaker 2>shit like that?

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<v Speaker 4>Wait?

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<v Speaker 6>So before you guys, No, I haven't said anything like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys.

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<v Speaker 6>So the argument before you, the argument before you knew

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<v Speaker 6>it was Trump, was that they should go to jail,

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<v Speaker 6>even if they're the sitting president. But now that you

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<v Speaker 6>know it's Trump, it's no longer thrown in jail.

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<v Speaker 11>And now it's there's no there's no law against sat there's.

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<v Speaker 6>No log against sexual exploitation, no lag against talking.

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<v Speaker 5>Like a new.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Cults are gonna cult, aren't they. It's a cacus

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<v Speaker 2>stock Grissy. It's the worst, the most moronic, the most terrible,

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<v Speaker 2>who are being propped up, supported and worshiped by the stupid, moronic, terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>I swear to you, I was going to play a

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<v Speaker 2>montage from Donald Trump, just a few of the things,

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<v Speaker 2>the horrible and moronic and terrible and stupid, awful things

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<v Speaker 2>that he said and done. First of all, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know where to start. Secondly, I cannot stand the sound

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<v Speaker 2>of his voice. I can't. I'm not going to do

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<v Speaker 2>it to you, and I'm not going to do it

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<v Speaker 2>to me. But I mean, I'm just going through my

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<v Speaker 2>mental rolodex. Just in relative recent history. Anybody remember when

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<v Speaker 2>there was that Washington, DC plane crash January of last year,

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<v Speaker 2>right the American Airlines plane crashed into the Blackhawk helicopter.

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<v Speaker 2>Dozens of people die. First thing that happens. Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>goes to public and he blames DEEI, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's minorities, it's black people, it's women in the cockpit,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the problem. And you know who put that stuff

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<v Speaker 2>in place. It was Obama Biden. I mean, it's just crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>especially understanding that during the Biden administration there were zero

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<v Speaker 2>commercial airline crash fatalities out of millions of planes that

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<v Speaker 2>had been in the air. Remember when Trump said that

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<v Speaker 2>Denmark doesn't have the right to Greenland despite the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that it belongs to Denmark. Excuse me. He vowed to

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<v Speaker 2>bring back plastic straws because paper straws explude wind mills

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<v Speaker 2>are causing cancer in Wales. And he was talking to

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<v Speaker 2>an audience of voters in twenty twenty four, he said

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<v Speaker 2>that he was the father of IVF in vitro fertilization.

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<v Speaker 2>What what He suggested the purge as a way to

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps solve crime. Anybody see the Purge movies. The whole

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<v Speaker 2>idea is this so that the public can get all

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<v Speaker 2>the violence and lawlessness out of its system. There is

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<v Speaker 2>one day designated every year where anything goes. You can

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<v Speaker 2>go out and you can torture and rape and murder

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<v Speaker 2>and do whatever you want, and there are no punishments,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no penalty, there's no consequences. Twenty four hours, you

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<v Speaker 2>can go out and be the worst version of yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>And Donald Trump's like, you know, if we were to

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<v Speaker 2>have a purge day, it might help us, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in just a twelve hour period. I think it's what

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<v Speaker 2>he suggested. He wanted to change the term for AI

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<v Speaker 2>artificial intelligence. He said, and I quote, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like anything that is artificial, So can we straighten

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<v Speaker 2>that out? We should change the name. Of course, he's

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<v Speaker 2>a name changer. He's still calling the Gulf of Mexico

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<v Speaker 2>the Gulf of America while pretty much no one else

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<v Speaker 2>in the world is. Oh. By the way, Trump is

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<v Speaker 2>also an activist when it comes to American grass. Okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll play this one audio clip.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to be redoing the parks, redoing the grass.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, grass is a lifetime, like people have a lifetime,

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<v Speaker 4>and a lifetime of this grass is long been gone.

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<v Speaker 4>When you look at the parks where the grass is

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<v Speaker 4>all tired, exhausted. We're going to redo the grass with

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<v Speaker 4>the finest grasses.

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<v Speaker 2>He was going to cut drug prices by twelve hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent thirteen hundred, fourteen hundred, fifteen hundred percent. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>if you cut them one hundred percent of zero, I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't understand. We are all familiar with the reflecting

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<v Speaker 2>pool snaffoo. Oh yeah, wait a minute. This was in

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<v Speaker 2>June of this year when Donald Trump was asked to

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<v Speaker 2>define cease fire in regard to Iran ceasefire. Uh, pretty much,

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<v Speaker 2>you way it is.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a different part of the world, you know. I'd

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<v Speaker 4>say that part of the world sees fires when you're

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<v Speaker 4>shooting in a more moderate manner.

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<v Speaker 2>A ceasefire is when you continue to fire, but you

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<v Speaker 2>are firing moderately, he said in May of this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Most people don't know that dumb is spelled with the

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<v Speaker 2>letter B cancus docracy. And of course there's the more

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<v Speaker 2>serious stuff that's going on, the attack on our citizens,

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<v Speaker 2>the ice murders, the war on journalists and the free press,

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<v Speaker 2>the war on democracy, the rewriting of the entire history

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<v Speaker 2>of the United States, and this weird loyalist cult wrapped

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<v Speaker 2>around one of the dumbest, most moronic, most childish, most

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<v Speaker 2>horrible human beings. I am not being hyperbolic. This is

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<v Speaker 2>not TDS. You know what I'm talking about. Name a

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<v Speaker 2>redeeming quality. Name a redeeming quality. If you found one,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll bet you're lying because I've been searching for years. Cacistockracy.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for teaching me a word that

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<v Speaker 2>I can now use to brand the insanity that's going

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<v Speaker 2>on around us. Short break, more of your calls. Next,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got David at five eight zero. David, are you

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<v Speaker 2>with us? Yes, sir, welcome David. Let's talk what's on

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<v Speaker 2>your mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, first, I want to let you know, Seth, I

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<v Speaker 3>truly appreciate you being there, very kind of following you

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<v Speaker 3>for a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have a computer handy?

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<v Speaker 2>I just happen to have a computer handy.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, if you would, Delusional disorder your Wikipedia, so we

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<v Speaker 3>can get on some page for a conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Delusional disorder.

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<v Speaker 3>Wikipedia. That's what I'm looking at.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Harvard Health, National Institutes of Health, South Coast

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<v Speaker 2>Behavior with the Health I'm looking for Wikipedia. Okay. Here

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<v Speaker 2>it is delusional disorder, a mental disorder in which a

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<v Speaker 2>person has delusions but with no accompanying prominent hallucinations, thought disorder,

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<v Speaker 2>mood disorder, or significant flattening of effect. Okay, I'm there.

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<v Speaker 3>All right now a by half a page down signs

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<v Speaker 3>and symptoms. Number seven is what I want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>Number seven. The belief is at the least unlikely and

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<v Speaker 2>out of keeping with the individuals social, cultural, and religious background.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, now here's what I want to say. Religious delusions

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<v Speaker 3>and politics. Don't we well part excuse me. Politics do

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<v Speaker 3>not belong in a medical diagnosis, and number seven reads

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<v Speaker 3>to me as politics. A delusion can be induced by society.

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<v Speaker 3>An entire society can be delusional. But number seven, if

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<v Speaker 3>that was removed and religious people were considered delusional, the

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<v Speaker 3>next question would be when is it ever a good

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<v Speaker 3>idea to allow a person that cannot tell magic fairy

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<v Speaker 3>tales from reality to hold office, vote on guns or

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<v Speaker 3>room children. Well, I agree that delusions come in many flavors,

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<v Speaker 3>but a religious delusion through our history has proven to

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<v Speaker 3>cause more division, more destruction, and more death than anything

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<v Speaker 3>else created by man. If that definition number seven is removed,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a political loophole. And if they remove that, then

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<v Speaker 3>imagine this psychological evaluations Before you can own a gun

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<v Speaker 3>in America, there will be a large percentage of people

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<v Speaker 3>that will choose guns versus their magic, fairy tale religious delusions.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, those are two different conversations. The idea of being diluted,

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<v Speaker 2>about the idea of a god or the supernatural, and

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not you have an aberration psychologically which would

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<v Speaker 2>make you ill qualified to own a firearm. Firearm rather,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, are those two different conversations.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Israel, Gaza, an American military. Today, religious delusions have

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<v Speaker 3>become a weapon hurting the masses, the ignorant masses, to

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<v Speaker 3>do evil things, you know, cause death instruction. By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>thanks for taking my call, and please excuse me a

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<v Speaker 3>pedive stroke in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>You're doing great, You're doing fine. You gave us a

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<v Speaker 2>to think and talk about. Appreciate the kind words as well, David.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was my point, seth. I truly appreciate you

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<v Speaker 3>being out there and doing what you do, and I

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<v Speaker 3>just wanted to get a thought across to you and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you can look into it personally.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'll take a closer look at this page

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<v Speaker 2>here in just second and educate myself. Thanks for the prompt, David,

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<v Speaker 2>Be safe out there, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can't get much furd with it, so I

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<v Speaker 3>figured I got to find a guy who can, and

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<v Speaker 3>that would be my idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe we'll see how I do. David, take care,

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<v Speaker 2>have a good data. Yeah, we'll see you later. These

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<v Speaker 2>points that he pointed to, let me just roll through

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<v Speaker 2>these for just second. The following can indicate a delusion.

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<v Speaker 2>An individual expresses an idea or belief with unusual persistence

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<v Speaker 2>or force, even when evidence suggests the contrary. By the

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<v Speaker 2>way you have just described most of humanity, I got

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<v Speaker 2>an idea, a belief, and I am persistent to believe it,

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<v Speaker 2>even when you show me that it's a big mountain

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<v Speaker 2>of crap. Number two, That idea appears to have an

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<v Speaker 2>undue influence on the person's life, and the way of

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<v Speaker 2>life is often altered to an inexplicable extent. Yeah, seeing

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<v Speaker 2>some of that. Number three, Despite their profound conviction, there

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<v Speaker 2>is often a quality of secretiveness or suspicion when the

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<v Speaker 2>person is questioned about it. Number four, the individual tends

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<v Speaker 2>to be humorless and over sensitive, especially about the belief.

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<v Speaker 2>Number five, there's a quality of centrality, no matter how

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<v Speaker 2>unlikely it is that these strange things are happening to

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<v Speaker 2>the person, they accept them relatively unquestioningly. Number six. An

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<v Speaker 2>attempt to contradict the belief is likely to arouse an

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<v Speaker 2>inappropriately strong emotional reaction, often with irritability and hostility. They

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<v Speaker 2>will not accept any other opinions. Seven We've covered the

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<v Speaker 2>belief is or at the least unlikely and out of

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<v Speaker 2>keeping with the individual social, cultural, and religious background. Number eight.

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<v Speaker 2>The person is emotionally overinvested in the idea and it

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<v Speaker 2>overwhelms other elements of their psyche number nine of ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Number nine, the delusion, if acted out, often leads to

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<v Speaker 2>behaviors which are abnormal and out of character, although perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>understandable in light of the delusional beliefs. Number ten. Other

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<v Speaker 2>people who know the individual observe that the belief and

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00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:52.880
<v Speaker 2>behavior are uncharacteristic and alien. I'm getting two messages from

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<v Speaker 2>this list. One is that the delusion defines me and

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<v Speaker 2>affects how I behave, and other people also know that

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<v Speaker 2>the belief and behavior are uncharacteristic to me. I would

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<v Speaker 2>think if I'm defined by the belief, I'm obsessed with it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it impacts how I navigate the world, well, it

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<v Speaker 2>would be characteristic of me. I don't know. I'm after

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<v Speaker 2>wrestle them with that one for a while. Let's go

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<v Speaker 2>to everya code six' four to one. High who's This,

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<v Speaker 2>hi it's a.

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<v Speaker 11>CHAN i just wanted to ask, you why do you

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<v Speaker 11>think people believe in conspiracy?

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<v Speaker 2>Theories, WELL i haven't mapped the human. Mind there is

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00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:39.320
<v Speaker 2>so much, psychology you know that has been done by

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00:58:39.320 --> 00:58:43.079
<v Speaker 2>people so much more qualified than. Me there are a

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<v Speaker 2>few THINGS i can speak. To let me ask, you

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00:58:45.480 --> 00:58:47.920
<v Speaker 2>why do you think people believe in conspiracy?

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<v Speaker 11>THEORIES i think it's an ego. THING i think IT'S

945
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:53.880
<v Speaker 11>i know something you don't know kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>THING i think that's totally. VALID i also think people

947
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<v Speaker 2>like a good. Story who doesn't love a conspiracy. Tale

948
00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:07.159
<v Speaker 2>there's a secret organization of somebody who's doing things and

949
00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:10.400
<v Speaker 2>they're getting away with. It and then IF i figured it,

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<v Speaker 2>OUT i guess that takes us back to, ego doesn't.

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00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:16.800
<v Speaker 2>IT i also think there's some patterns. Seeking there's a,

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00:59:16.920 --> 00:59:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Distrust like anytime you distrust a source of, information especially,

953
00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:27.920
<v Speaker 2>today if we immediately distrust the public record or the official,

954
00:59:28.039 --> 00:59:30.800
<v Speaker 2>record then we're going to be scrambling to find another.

955
00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:35.599
<v Speaker 2>EXPLANATION i think the people who say That Donald trump's

956
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<v Speaker 2>assassination attempt was, Staged, WELL i mean another guy, died

957
00:59:41.960 --> 00:59:45.519
<v Speaker 2>and SO i myself, think Well ockham's, RAISER i don't

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00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:48.960
<v Speaker 2>think it was. Staged WOULD i put it Past Donald

959
00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:52.400
<v Speaker 2>trump to set something up where another person was murdered

960
00:59:52.440 --> 00:59:55.039
<v Speaker 2>to make him look? Good, YEAH i very much. Do

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<v Speaker 2>BUT i just can't prove. THAT i can't take that

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01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:02.039
<v Speaker 2>that far enough to hold on to. It BUT i

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01:00:02.079 --> 01:00:05.679
<v Speaker 2>totally understand now there's an entire culture of people across

964
01:00:05.719 --> 01:00:08.320
<v Speaker 2>the spectrum who think the whole thing was just. Theater

965
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:11.599
<v Speaker 2>and that takes us back To, HEY i love a good,

966
01:00:11.639 --> 01:00:14.840
<v Speaker 2>story AND i don't trust the official. Record lots of

967
01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:17.000
<v Speaker 2>stuff going, on probably a lot, more, Right.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah and ALSO i think maybe these people find a

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01:00:21.719 --> 01:00:25.840
<v Speaker 11>comradeship amongst. Themselves you, know there's a lot of podcasts

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01:00:25.920 --> 01:00:28.760
<v Speaker 11>and so forth that talk about these, things and maybe

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01:00:28.800 --> 01:00:30.719
<v Speaker 11>they find a kinship with each.

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01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Other.

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01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:35.119
<v Speaker 2>Tribalism If i'm a flat earther AND i think that

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<v Speaker 2>the world's scientific communities and governments are covering it, UP

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01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:41.960
<v Speaker 2>i get together with my fellow flat earthers and we're a,

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01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:45.599
<v Speaker 2>family right, Right, YEAH i think there's a lot of

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01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:49.920
<v Speaker 2>gears in that. Machine the human mind is a, wild wanky,

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<v Speaker 2>place isn't.

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<v Speaker 11>It, yeah and it's surprising that the intelligent PEOPLE i

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01:00:55.119 --> 01:00:58.480
<v Speaker 11>know that are into some of this. Stuff it's just mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Beling, well let's you. Go thanks so much for the. Call,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah appreciate you very. Much there's a common myth that

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<v Speaker 2>only the unintelligent will fall for conspiracy. Theories that's absolute.

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<v Speaker 2>Crap in, fact many times it's really, clever smart people

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01:01:14.199 --> 01:01:16.880
<v Speaker 2>that can find ways to connect dots that were never

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<v Speaker 2>meant to be. Connected Psychotherapist Monica vilhauer wrote In Psychology

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<v Speaker 2>today about why people buy conspiracy. Theories they thrive on cognitive,

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01:01:28.840 --> 01:01:32.519
<v Speaker 2>biases mental shortcuts that allow us to make sense of the.

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01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:37.599
<v Speaker 2>World there's proportionality, bias which leads people to believe that

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01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:43.000
<v Speaker 2>significant events must have substantial. Causes in other, Words Lee Harvey,

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<v Speaker 2>oswald some loner murderer KILLED jfk Nah Na nad has

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<v Speaker 2>to be a vess, conspiracy kind of An Oliver stone type.

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01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:57.599
<v Speaker 2>Story and in an environment with high mistrust and, authorities

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01:01:57.800 --> 01:02:03.079
<v Speaker 2>conspiracy theories can. Flourish. Yeah anybody who thinks they cannot

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<v Speaker 2>be fooled already has been the Great Richard feynman was,

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<v Speaker 2>very very. Wise that's going to do it. TODAY i

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<v Speaker 2>will see you back here next week with the audio

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<v Speaker 2>of My cincinnati events featuring myself And Noah. Lusions thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much for.

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