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<v Speaker 1>Seven oh five here fifty five PARC DE Talk Station Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>Always enjoy when to come into the studio in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning and see on the rundown Dave Williams from the

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<v Speaker 1>Taxpayer Protection Alliance, holding government accountables what they do each

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<v Speaker 1>and every day. Find them online Protecting Taxpayers dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Williams, Welcome back to the Morning show, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always a pleasure to having you on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, Brian, and I have a question for you

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<v Speaker 2>to start off the show. The Washington commanders are looking

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<v Speaker 2>for subsidy to build a new stadium, right yep. So

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<v Speaker 2>in Washington, d C. We have now a stadium, subsidy

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<v Speaker 2>and a street car. So I'm trying to think of

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<v Speaker 2>the trifecta here. What would be the third thing to

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<v Speaker 2>make this just the trifecta of wasteful and unnecessary spending,

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<v Speaker 2>Because I know Cincinnati has the same right, they have subsidies,

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<v Speaker 2>they had the streetcar, and I can't think of the

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<v Speaker 2>third one to make it a trifecta.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I don't know, how about some green energy project?

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, bingo, you got it. Okay, we had

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<v Speaker 2>the trifecta of government waste stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'm glad you chose you one of our

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<v Speaker 1>favorite subjects street car. You Aubity already mentioned that we

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<v Speaker 1>always managed to get the street car in there, even

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<v Speaker 1>with the only passing reference stadium deals. You and I

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that a lot over the years. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>our Ohio budget has six hundred million dollars going directly

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<v Speaker 1>to the Cleveland Browns for the purpose of building their

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<v Speaker 1>two point plus whatever billion dollar projects. So how that

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<v Speaker 1>ended up in the Ohio taxpayer's budget is beyond me.

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<v Speaker 1>It really irks me, But there it is governed. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a lineight in Veto, and what he did was

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<v Speaker 1>line it in Veto's three or four issues that it

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<v Speaker 1>would have been baby steps in the right direction to

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<v Speaker 1>providing the Ohio property owners with some measure of relief

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<v Speaker 1>for property taxes. He struck all those out of the bill,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet he stilled allowed six hundred million dollars to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the Cleveland Browns. There, I got it out

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<v Speaker 1>of my system, Dave. So but moving over top top

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<v Speaker 1>five anyway, list of our favorite topics over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>The post office. So let's let's talk about the post office.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an efficient, well oiled business over there isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, which sure is sarcasm. Noted they just raised the

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<v Speaker 2>cost of first class mail again, went from seventy three

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<v Speaker 2>cents to seventy eight cents. And I mean, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to sound like, you know, one of those old guys,

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<v Speaker 2>but I remember when it was fifty five cents. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't seem like it was too long ago that was

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<v Speaker 2>fifty five cents. And here's here's the kicker is that

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<v Speaker 2>they're not making money. Is that they keep on losing.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're not talking about a little bit of money.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about billions of dollars a year, and they

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<v Speaker 2>keep on raising prices and it's not working. The Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>lines of problem is that they raise the prices and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not working because the rest of the system is

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<v Speaker 2>so messed up. They are spending eighty thousand dollars per

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<v Speaker 2>truck for electric vehicles.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, see you brought I had a separate article

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<v Speaker 1>that was Olivia Murray over an American thinker did the numbers

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<v Speaker 1>crunching on this one, and part of the Inflation Reduction

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<v Speaker 1>Act allocated money to go to the Post Office for

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<v Speaker 1>the purpose of transforming their feet into a fleet into

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<v Speaker 1>electric vehicles. Right, Apparently they want forty five thousand electric

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<v Speaker 1>battery powered postal service vehicles in this in this Grand Plan,

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<v Speaker 1>vehicles were supposed to be This acquisition supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>completed by September of twenty twenty eight, funded by in part,

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<v Speaker 1>is a ten billion dollar total overall cost project. Three

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<v Speaker 1>billion of that comes from the so called Inflation Reduction Act,

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<v Speaker 1>the Green New Deal Bill right President Biden signed in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two. So from that three billion dollars, currently

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<v Speaker 1>one point seven billion has been distributed. It's out the door.

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<v Speaker 1>They have acquired two hundred and fifty total trucks, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>if you do the proper division or math on that,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes out to six point eight million dollars per truck.

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<v Speaker 1>And since they've only acquired a small number, they said

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<v Speaker 1>at this current rate eighty three vehicles per year, it

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<v Speaker 1>would take the government another five hundred and thirty nine

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<v Speaker 1>years to finalize the plan. It's supposed to be completed

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<v Speaker 1>by twenty twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>They can't do anything, right.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they absolutely can't. And the Inspector General at the

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<v Speaker 2>Post Office has been warning about this for years and

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<v Speaker 2>telling them not to do this. Not to buy electric

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<v Speaker 2>vehicles because of the maintenance cost, because of downtime, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just charging these vehicles. It takes time to charge the vehicles,

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<v Speaker 2>so they aren't listening. And when you talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>number of vehicles that have already been purchased, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is just embarrassing, to say the least. And there

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<v Speaker 2>is a new Postmaster General and hopefully you know he

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<v Speaker 2>and he just started I think last week. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let's see what this guy can do. And so his

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<v Speaker 2>first name is David, So I have a lot of faith,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I don't know if that's something that well,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see. But there's there's management problems. There's so many deep,

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<v Speaker 2>deep problems at the post Office. And obviously the glaring

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<v Speaker 2>one is spending all this money on electric vehicles.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it really is. But it's just one additional expenditure,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean, if they're they're looking, you have

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<v Speaker 1>an imagery reported and you know the numbers on this.

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<v Speaker 1>The United States Postal Service has lost more than one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred billion dollars over the past fifteen years, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>continuing down that road currently. I guess how many billions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars have they left had lost so far this year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like three billion dollars, three billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>And if they would end Saturday delivery, they could save

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<v Speaker 2>two point six billion dollars a year just ending Saturday delivery.

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<v Speaker 2>That is an incredible number to think that it could

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<v Speaker 2>be saved easily.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, but that wouldn't even solve the problem. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>great step in the right direction. Dave Williams tax Favoritextion Alliance.

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<v Speaker 1>But apparently they lost nine point five billion dollars collectively

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<v Speaker 1>last year alone. So yeah, save two point five billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get that figure down to seven billion dollars in loss.

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<v Speaker 1>That'd be a notable improvement. But that's still seven billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in loss. This is a business model. This isn't

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<v Speaker 1>even a business model.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not a business model. You look at seasonal

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<v Speaker 2>hiring and we're going to hear about the Post Office

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<v Speaker 2>hiring people for Christmas. Well, what happens with the Post

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<v Speaker 2>Office is when they hire someone for a seasonal work,

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<v Speaker 2>they offered them a full time job afterwards. FedEx and

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<v Speaker 2>ups hire seasonally and they don't hire them full time

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<v Speaker 2>afterwards because it's seasonal. It's only for a few months.

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<v Speaker 2>But because of what the unions have done inside the

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<v Speaker 2>Postal service is that they're required to offer them a

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<v Speaker 2>full time job after Christmas. And again you said it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a business. They don't have any business sense whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, how is it the American tax payer dollars are

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<v Speaker 1>supporting all of this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what it is. There's a nostalgia about

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<v Speaker 2>the post office, and rightly so, because you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>meet your mail deliverer and he's a nice guy, she's

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<v Speaker 2>a nice woman, right, and you have that bond. But

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<v Speaker 2>people don't see the bigger picture. Nostalgia overtakes business sense,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think if people really saw the numbers and

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<v Speaker 2>understood just how much of a mess the post Office is,

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<v Speaker 2>they would really, I think, change their view. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is an entity that tried to get into banking.

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth warrens, Oh my god, try to get the post

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<v Speaker 2>Office into the banking. I mean, that doesn't send a

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<v Speaker 2>shiver down your spine. Nothing ever will.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I guess I'm wondering.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, who's going to be responsible for initiating some reform?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if the union contract requires these part time

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<v Speaker 1>employees to be offered full time jobs. That's got to

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<v Speaker 1>stop right away. That had to stop years ago. Why

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<v Speaker 1>isn't that element being addressed. That's clearly a problem, Dave.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate to say this, but this is up to Congress.

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<v Speaker 2>And Congress did the Postal Reform Act a few years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and their big savings was taking the healthcare costs of

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<v Speaker 2>postal employees and shifting it over to Medicare. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 2>still a taxpayer cost. They thought that they were doing

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<v Speaker 2>the post Office and taxpayers a wonderful thing by doing this,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's just shifting the burden from one part of

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<v Speaker 2>the government to another. This is what Congress did, and

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<v Speaker 2>but Congress needs to do this. They need to go

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<v Speaker 2>inside the post Office and completely reorganize it. And I

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<v Speaker 2>know when you talk about privatization, people you know, lose

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<v Speaker 2>their minds. And I'm not saying privatize it, but I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta tell you, we may have to start to look

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<v Speaker 2>at that and maybe privatizing certain parts of it because

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<v Speaker 2>it just isn't working. And they get a bailout every

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<v Speaker 2>time they get a bailout from taxpayers. So that's why

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have the pressure to make money. Is they

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<v Speaker 2>know that Uncle Sam and uncle taxpayer is right there

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<v Speaker 2>to bail them out.

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<v Speaker 1>Going back to your comment about nostalgia, maybe I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>a cold and callous guy day, but I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>that nostalgia. Every time I go to the mailbox, I

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<v Speaker 1>retrieve usually what amounts about three or four pieces of

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<v Speaker 1>junk mail. Maybe three times a week I get some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of mail that actually is important in some way,

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<v Speaker 1>shape or form. Now I could go electronic billing. When

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to say, my cell phone, I like getting

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<v Speaker 1>the hard copy of the bill. My wife has paperwork

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<v Speaker 1>to do for reimbursement from work, so you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really even need that delivered. I could have

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<v Speaker 1>it go to my email. I could pay it online,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do pay the bill online. I don't stick

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<v Speaker 1>a stamp on an envelope and send Verizon a check.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've cut out half of the mail needed for

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<v Speaker 1>that transaction. But in the final analysis, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>the mail showed up one day a week, that will

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<v Speaker 1>be a Okay. I get all my junk mail. I

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<v Speaker 1>can sort through a throw it away because it goes

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<v Speaker 1>directly into the garbage, can recycle and pull out the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that really is important. I mean, the times have

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<v Speaker 1>obviously changed so dramatically. The need for the Post Office,

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<v Speaker 1>well of its current size anyway, has gone the way

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<v Speaker 1>of the DODO.

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<v Speaker 2>It has. And when you see other companies that go

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<v Speaker 2>through and I said other companies, you know my mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you see companies go through this, they downsize,

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<v Speaker 2>they change their business model exactly. The Post Office has

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<v Speaker 2>not done that. They do the same thing over and

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<v Speaker 2>over again, expecting a different result.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, which is why they lost one hundred billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in the past fifteen years. We'll continue with taxpayer

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<v Speaker 1>protection lines. Dave Williams got well, the energy industry. Apparently

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<v Speaker 1>the Grand Ole Party has forgotten what the free market is.

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<v Speaker 1>They tend to do that from time to time. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get that information from Dave seven to fifteen. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>Get Affordable Imaging Services now open in New Richmond, and

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<v Speaker 1>they got more than one office now right at the

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio Indiana border. Get X rays X rays from Affordable

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<v Speaker 1>Imaging Service. You know what they cost, seventy five bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go back to that CT scans my favorite illustration

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<v Speaker 1>because five thousand dollars at a hospital. If I emphasize

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<v Speaker 1>that enough, probably pay extra for the board Certified Radiologist report. No,

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<v Speaker 1>See you address this political article political reporting that the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Interior says the agency's going to subject wind

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<v Speaker 1>of the country. Now that sounds typical Politico. They're obviously

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<v Speaker 1>consumption of news. Dave, So, I'm no no stranger. They're

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<v Speaker 1>wind's blowing from Politico, no pun intended, right, But apparently

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<v Speaker 1>what they say is in order to proceed on lands

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Bergham. So they're placing the authority to thumb up

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So read between the lines and read the lines

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<v Speaker 2>on this one. And this is very disturbing because listen,

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<v Speaker 2>i'mno fan of green energy, especially the subsidies. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as a country, this is all of the above. If

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<v Speaker 2>you want to invest in green energy, if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to develop green energy, without my money without tax payer money.

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<v Speaker 2>You should have the ability to do that. And what

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<v Speaker 2>this is is the government picking winners and losers. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is something that Trump administration has done a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of actually picking winners and losers in the economy. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is not going to help. Now. Listen, if they

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<v Speaker 2>said that we're not going to subsidize any of these projects, amen, brother, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>do not subsidize, But that's not what they're saying. They're

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<v Speaker 2>really bothers me. It's just weaponization of government.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, Dave, I think everybody has to

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<v Speaker 1>bear in mind that we do have changes of administrations.

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary or I don't know, Pete, but a judge. So

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<v Speaker 1>they would be inclined to approve any wind in solar

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<v Speaker 1>projects without any additional scrutiny. I suppose and say no

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<v Speaker 2>And Brian Darren lines the problem because at the Federal

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<v Speaker 2>Communications Commission we have them approving or disapproving of mergers

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<v Speaker 2>and acquisitions based upon DEI. Again no fan of DEI.

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<v Speaker 2>a business will us to do that, that is their business.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is that you were having the government is

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<v Speaker 2>or I'm not going to allow you to merge with

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<v Speaker 2>So this is going to bite them in the back

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<v Speaker 2>end at some point. Yeah, this weaponization and it really

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<v Speaker 2>bothers me that they're doing this. And you know, Brendan Carr,

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<v Speaker 2>good job deregulating. But this is very troublesome.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, and I understand all day along the points

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<v Speaker 1>you're springing from here, Dave, but it and just to

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<v Speaker 1>hammer the point home, if private business a wants to

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<v Speaker 1>federal government shouldn't have anything to say about the terms

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<v Speaker 1>of conditions of what that agreement is. I mean, unless

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<v Speaker 1>it falls into perhaps Sherman antitrust or something along those lines.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the problem with letting them merge. Why would you

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<v Speaker 1>do this in order for us, the federal government to

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<v Speaker 1>put a stamp of approval on the merger. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>shocking illustration of how much power and control the federal

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, when you're talking about two wireless companies merging,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're not subsidized.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't They're not getting federal dollars to run their business.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're just they're just running their businesses.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's why, you know, I would love to

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<v Speaker 2>limited government, you know, and really, you know, merging and

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<v Speaker 2>acquisitions I think are a really good indication of just

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<v Speaker 2>disturbing trend in the Trump administration. But again, you know, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>Richie, gotta put a positive spin on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Dave, you got to Let's do one more with Dave

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<v Speaker 1>time with Dave Williams from the Taxpayer Protection Alliance. Always

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy our conversation Dave. Even though they involve important issues,

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<v Speaker 1>usually big, big money and how it's misspent. We at

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<v Speaker 1>least try to keep things a little light when talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it. And now we're pivoting over to recycling. What's

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<v Speaker 2>So recycling has really come a long way over the

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<v Speaker 2>past ten, fifteen, twenty years, and we see just really

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<v Speaker 2>a renaissance in how they're able to deal with plastics,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course the government doesn't recognize that, and of

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<v Speaker 2>course the companies are bad. They're trying to pollute the planet,

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<v Speaker 2>which you know, I never understood. Why would you want

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<v Speaker 2>to pollute and kill the people that you're selling your

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<v Speaker 2>product to. I don't, you know, understand the logic. But

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<v Speaker 2>there the EPA is refusing to acknowledge new ways to

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<v Speaker 2>recycle plastics. And yeah, part of the problem is is

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of blame gets placed on the US

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<v Speaker 2>for other countries that are doing the biggest damage. And

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen these you know, flotilla's of plastic emotion, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's like one or two percent of that

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<v Speaker 2>actually comes from the US, and it you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>bulk of that comes from other countries.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we have a good sanitation system. We have garbage

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<v Speaker 1>cans literally everywhere, they're ubiquitous. We have recycling programs. I

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<v Speaker 1>even have a separate recycling garbage can that Rumpky comes

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<v Speaker 1>Now I don't believe it for a minute that those

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<v Speaker 1>recyclables we put in that can Dave are actually getting recycled,

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<v Speaker 1>but I try. I do my best to separate them,

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<v Speaker 1>and we endeavor to conform and try to keep that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff because I don't believe in throwing something away that

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<v Speaker 1>has a useful life. Now, what Rumkey ultimately does with

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<v Speaker 1>it outside of my realm of knowledge, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there it is. It's easy to do. That's why we

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<v Speaker 1>don't pollute as much as other countries. Other countries don't

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<v Speaker 1>even have sewage systems.

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<v Speaker 2>And if these companies can take plastic or aluminum or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever and turn it into something else. They're going to

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<v Speaker 2>make money off of that. Dumping it into a landfill

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<v Speaker 2>does not make money for a company. Recycling does and

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<v Speaker 2>producing something else. And you know, one thing we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>talked about our you know, plastic bags versus paper bags.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a lot of scientific evidence that says that

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<v Speaker 2>bags are the ones that are taxed. And yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>Know, and craming if I'm wrong, But I've read so

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<v Speaker 1>many articles over the year's dave that recycling doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>That if there was money to be made in recycling,

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<v Speaker 1>But I I I've consistently read though, that that's not

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<v Speaker 1>weren't we sending a lot of our plastics for recycling

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<v Speaker 1>to China and then China said no, we don't want them.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't do anything with them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was, and you know, and really China is

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<v Speaker 2>such a problem with a lot of things. But when

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about recycling or the environment, you know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>the ones that are never going to conform to a treaty.

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<v Speaker 2>They're the ones that are going to you know, be

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<v Speaker 2>the big polluters. And again, you know, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>And I got to tell you that the plastics revolution

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<v Speaker 3>Crime on the I remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>They're they're they're actively preventing this and this is something

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<v Speaker 2>These are the bureaucrats that have been here for years

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<v Speaker 2>and that have a singular point of view and vision,

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<v Speaker 2>and they refuse to look outside, you know, u of

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<v Speaker 2>their own comfort zone a box, to see what these

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<v Speaker 2>new technologies are and what they can bring. It's it's frustrating,

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<v Speaker 2>to say the least.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this process obviously exists. You have information discussing the

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<v Speaker 1>process and how it works, and you know the temperatures

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<v Speaker 1>and everything else. You also have the the the the

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<v Speaker 1>cost benefit that could come from this six hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>nine hund dollars per time after this process of plastic

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<v Speaker 1>is performed. So there it is. It's all there. Why

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<v Speaker 1>would the EPA stand in the way of this allowing

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<v Speaker 1>this process to come online?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess is what I'm looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. If I had the answer, if I

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<v Speaker 2>could crawl inside a bureaucrat's head and figure out what

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<v Speaker 2>the heck was going on inside there, I'd be a

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have to provide an explanation for why. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they can't say no, this is actually everything you say

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<v Speaker 1>is true, but the amount of pollutants and carcinogens that

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<v Speaker 1>go out into the world in the environment far exceed

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<v Speaker 1>the benefit from this recycling process. Ergo, we're gonna say no,

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<v Speaker 1>none of that's in this.

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<v Speaker 2>They slow walk everything. Look at the process at the

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<v Speaker 2>FDA to approve vapes and new tobacco harm reduction. They

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<v Speaker 2>have a shot clock of eighteen months, right, well, some

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<v Speaker 2>products have been under review for seven years. They low

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<v Speaker 2>walk everything and they don't provide any sort of answers

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<v Speaker 2>or rationale for what they're doing. And that's exactly what's

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<v Speaker 2>happened at the EPA right now.

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<v Speaker 3>God, it sounds like something from a Kafka novel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Yes, making blush geez.

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Williams Taxpayer text lines. That's what we have you around.

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<v Speaker 1>You can just illustrate and highlight this stupidity and epic

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<v Speaker 1>insanity of the regulatory state. And I appreciate you doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll welcome your return of the fifty five KC

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<v Speaker 1>Morning Show as soon as you're ready to do it

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<v Speaker 1>again and again. Remind my listeners. Protecting Taxpayers dot Org

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<v Speaker 1>agreed what Dave is writing about every single day and

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<v Speaker 1>his team there Dave always a pleasure to help you.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep up the great work, my friend, and stay well.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, Brian, have a great day.

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<v Speaker 1>You do the same and get in touch with cross

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<v Speaker 1>Country Mortgage. Got me Suzette loads the Camp, specifically cross

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<v Speaker 1>Country Mortgage. You want to work with Suzette because you

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<v Speaker 1>want to work with the best person in the mortgage business,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's her customer service superior. I hear from it

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<v Speaker 1>from my listeners. I heard it specifically from my daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>I recommend my own daughter to work with Suseette Los Camp.

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<v Speaker 1>She and Eric were working with some bank and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a week later, nothing happened. They couldn't find out what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on. It's like, did you call SU's that

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<v Speaker 1>Low's camp. Lauren doesn't listen to the morning show, so

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't know to make that. It's the first step,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm cutting out the problem for you. Call her initially.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be glad she's working for you. Got gazillions of

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<v Speaker 1>different mortgage possibilities out there, license in all fifty states,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, where do we go? So she can help

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<v Speaker 1>you out? In thirty five plus years in the mortgage business,

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<v Speaker 1>the best in customer service. She acts promptly and quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>She had my daughter and Eric's financing within like two days,

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<v Speaker 1>and my daughter raved about how pleasant and wonderful it

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<v Speaker 1>was working with Susette, and that certainly will be your experience.

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<v Speaker 1>She'll go the extra mile for you. Great rates at

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<v Speaker 1>a low cost, no junk fees, no application fees, no problems,

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<v Speaker 1>no issues ever with Suzette Low's Camp. Two ways to

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<v Speaker 1>reach your caller or send her an email. Either way

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<v Speaker 1>she'll get right back with you. The phone number five

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<v Speaker 1>one three three one three fifty one seventy six five

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<v Speaker 1>one three three one three fifty one seventy six. Email

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<v Speaker 1>Susan that dot lows Camp that's spelled l O S

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