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<v Speaker 1>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>You see that there is the sound of leeches, leeches

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<v Speaker 2>on society, users of the National Health Service. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>sound of people who take more than they give to society.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's me a picture of health. None of my family,

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<v Speaker 2>well we've all got colds. None of my family doing

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<v Speaker 2>anything other than giving to the greater good. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>you two taking sucking at the teat of Britain.

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<v Speaker 3>Mine had an air ambulance as well, so I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's a charity we've costed as money of as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you Callum, you know you've just got back.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they go, you see off. So listen, dear

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<v Speaker 2>listeners of Country Slide. Perhaps we should explain this isn't

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<v Speaker 2>the crappiest start of casualty that you've had special you see,

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<v Speaker 2>because this is what Country Slide is all about.

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<v Speaker 1>We did We're going to clap into the depths.

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<v Speaker 2>Of everything that goes wrong, largely in the countryside and

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<v Speaker 2>occasionally it's good bits. And this week we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>well we didn't intend to talk about health, but unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>It overtook us.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Callum should go first because his story hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>is shorter. Yeah, he got jealous of Vine and had

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<v Speaker 3>his own I really.

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<v Speaker 4>I really don't want to be in any way close

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<v Speaker 4>to like a topper. It sounds almost it's like it's

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<v Speaker 4>like I've done this for the contents.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not.

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<v Speaker 5>It was not a great moment.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I've updated you briefly and probably like barely

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<v Speaker 4>anybody knows about this because it happened late last night.

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<v Speaker 4>So there might be a few of my friends listening

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<v Speaker 4>that are like, you didn't tell me, so you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is Tuesday, and public get this on the Friday.

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<v Speaker 5>This is breaking news to most people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So my two year old is at a stage in

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<v Speaker 4>her life where she will look you dead in the

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<v Speaker 4>eye and do horrible things that will make you shout

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<v Speaker 4>at her because she thinks that's brilliant. So that could

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<v Speaker 4>be pulling clumps of hair out of her brother's head.

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<v Speaker 4>She quite likes doing that. Yesterday, she trapped him in

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<v Speaker 4>the Wendy House first and then started pulling his hair,

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<v Speaker 4>so he was screaming in the Wendy House, and then

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<v Speaker 4>she was just smiling watching me and then slowly reaching

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<v Speaker 4>for his hair to pull while I then told her

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<v Speaker 4>off and had to try and I don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>you've ever seen a six foot man try and drag

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<v Speaker 4>a child from a Wendy house. But there's all sorts

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<v Speaker 4>of angles that is where it.

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<v Speaker 5>Doesn't really work. That was fun.

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<v Speaker 4>The next one was she had a fistful of coins,

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<v Speaker 4>which sounds a bit like a like a Western. I've

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<v Speaker 4>watched that spaghetti Western. Yeah, it sounds like a new

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<v Speaker 4>thing on Amazon Prime. She had a fist full of coins,

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<v Speaker 4>and then she sort of looked at me and then

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<v Speaker 4>put them towards her mouth, and I said no, And

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<v Speaker 4>then I went over to retrieve that a fistful of coins.

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<v Speaker 4>She'd put them into her mouth. I inverted her, tapped

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<v Speaker 4>her on the back. Coins fell out, so did at

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<v Speaker 4>about six Easter eggs and a blue raspberry ice cream

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<v Speaker 4>that she'd just had, and a moosaka in the that

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<v Speaker 4>kind of luminous blue, chunky aubergine, all over the dog bed,

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<v Speaker 4>all up the wall, over the skirt in.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to confirm here, callum, this was vomit, not that

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<v Speaker 2>she was holding it all in her cheeks like a hamster.

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<v Speaker 5>Ye, No, that was indeed vomit.

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<v Speaker 3>This wasn't It wasn't like a a slot machine paying.

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<v Speaker 4>Out right, no, no, unfortunately, and then and then she

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<v Speaker 4>was sick, and then we kept an eye on her,

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<v Speaker 4>and about an hour later she still kept being sick intermittently.

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<v Speaker 4>So at that point we were like, okay, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>like this, So we went to UBI, went to A

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<v Speaker 4>and E and they.

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<v Speaker 5>Saw us quite quickly, which was really nice.

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<v Speaker 4>And at one point they pulled a metal detector out

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<v Speaker 4>and scanned over the the top of the child and

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<v Speaker 4>it went deep. And then she went, I'm not wearing

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<v Speaker 4>any rings. Can we just double checks she's not got

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<v Speaker 4>any metal on it anyway?

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<v Speaker 5>Beep beep.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm going to pass you on to somebody else.

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<v Speaker 3>You get the special treatment now.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, now we think you're full of coins, so you

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<v Speaker 4>would go to somebody else. So then we had several

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<v Speaker 4>X rays and then it was it was stuck in

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<v Speaker 4>her esophagus, so it hadn't gone down the windpipe, which is, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, the the good bit.

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<v Speaker 4>But it does make you does make you reflect on

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<v Speaker 4>that it could have got a lot worse.

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<v Speaker 5>And then.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we ended up going to having to see who

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<v Speaker 4>could take the sedation of a two year old on

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<v Speaker 4>as a as an antist, which everybody would willing to

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<v Speaker 4>take it until they heard it was a two year

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<v Speaker 4>old and then they were like, nope, we don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to do it. So Adam Brooks shout out Adam Brook's

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<v Speaker 4>Cambridge Hospital.

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<v Speaker 5>They decided to take it on.

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<v Speaker 4>So we went in about nine o'clock last night and

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<v Speaker 4>we left at three o'clock the following day. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's very long, it's been a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>What was your blood pressure like do you think during

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<v Speaker 3>you know, from from a handful of coins right through

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<v Speaker 3>to when you message me saying it's out.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's there's the anesthetic bits, the really the scary bit,

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<v Speaker 4>I think.

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<v Speaker 5>And also they were worried that in the.

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<v Speaker 4>Ambulance that it would it would come back up and

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<v Speaker 4>get so they had to take a like a recess

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<v Speaker 4>guy in the ambulance from Harlowe to.

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<v Speaker 5>To there.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, that was there was lots of scary moments,

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<v Speaker 4>but we did the right thing. The NHS were wonderful.

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<v Speaker 4>The staff were really good. You got the sense that

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<v Speaker 4>all of them were really really good. But they were

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<v Speaker 4>working with their with their one arm tied behind their

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<v Speaker 4>back because they were super stretched for resources, and they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>we like helping people, because that's kind of why we

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<v Speaker 4>work here. But we just don't have the ability to

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<v Speaker 4>get it done basically, So it took a lot longer

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<v Speaker 4>than they wanted it to and but that's the best

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<v Speaker 4>they could do, and they did a great job and

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<v Speaker 4>it got retrieved. Nothing terrible happened. I am mighty relieved.

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<v Speaker 4>Blood pressure was probably through the roof. Yeah, you do

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<v Speaker 4>think of all the it's weird.

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<v Speaker 5>You just.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no point welling on terrible things, But you do

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<v Speaker 4>think of the of the terrible things and how much

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<v Speaker 4>worse it could have been, and it could have been

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<v Speaker 4>a choking situation, and it does get very scary, but thankfully.

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<v Speaker 3>And up until yesterday evening, you weren't thinking about a

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<v Speaker 3>child swallowing a coin that was that was a sort

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<v Speaker 3>of the pile of hypotheticals in your life, like asteroid

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<v Speaker 3>impact and.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, choking is a really serious thing. Like there's all

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<v Speaker 5>sorts of things that people give.

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<v Speaker 4>To children that are really bad choking hazards, things like

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<v Speaker 4>balloons and popcorn.

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<v Speaker 2>Soldiers when I was a child, really yeah, lead soldiers.

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<v Speaker 5>Anything that can block the airway people give.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think most people know now to cut

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<v Speaker 4>grapes up and stuff like that, because that's cut grapes

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<v Speaker 4>up for kids, because they are the perfect size for

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<v Speaker 4>blocking an airway.

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<v Speaker 3>It's more than your little finger. Yeah, tiny, tiny thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, not a good thing to be ingested whole.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's let's come to the quick.

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<v Speaker 5>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you got the coin back?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>And all of the there was almost a sweep steak

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<v Speaker 4>because all they could see was the x ray, but

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<v Speaker 4>not obvious sign the coin's value.

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<v Speaker 5>It was.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a one pea coin. It's the lowest denominations.

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<v Speaker 1>Coin in our pocket.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know what you I was going to check.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to get it sort of dis mounted. I can.

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<v Speaker 2>I can make a stick for you and put that

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<v Speaker 2>penny and I'll glue it to the top of the stick.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've got it, I'll make it.

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<v Speaker 3>Just remind you and next time that child starts eating things,

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<v Speaker 3>you can swing that stick towards them.

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<v Speaker 5>It should go with the x ray as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think my I'll be honest the x

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<v Speaker 2>ray that Callum is showing us. If I actually started engraving,

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<v Speaker 2>would you bet that was a one p It looks

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<v Speaker 2>to me x ray that it's about a sort of

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<v Speaker 2>two pang coin. It's massive mine, just supposed to have

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<v Speaker 2>got a little ribcage.

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<v Speaker 4>Isn't They effectively said, there was a sweep steak going

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<v Speaker 4>on in the back room where they were guessing what

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<v Speaker 4>coin it would have been that was ingested, and they

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<v Speaker 4>were really interested. And I think the money came from

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<v Speaker 4>a little bag of coins that my son has, which

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<v Speaker 4>contains all stuff from all over the world, like all

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<v Speaker 4>the random change you collect from.

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<v Speaker 3>All those old little euro ones that.

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<v Speaker 4>So once I opened it up that it could be

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<v Speaker 4>you know, ten kona or some Icelandic denomination currency there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, my child swallowing. We're a very cosmopolitan family here,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Well, then they start looking at your socioeconomic status

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<v Speaker 3>and working out where you've been to on holiday. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not going to be anything Austrians.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I think there's a there's an old Belgian king

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<v Speaker 4>Leopold coin in there.

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<v Speaker 5>He was a good guy, I think, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Very popular in the in the in Africa.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have seen how you have leeched off society

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<v Speaker 2>by feeding your child coins. We now move on to

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<v Speaker 2>mister Prido, who obviously this sadly is one of those

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<v Speaker 2>podcasts that doesn't stretch to having a camera, but just

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<v Speaker 2>to go and paint the picture for you, dear listener.

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<v Speaker 2>So Callum's in his little eerie, I'm in my study

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<v Speaker 2>and Richard is propped up in bed. Imagine the scene

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<v Speaker 2>if James Robertson Justice was one of the patients in

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<v Speaker 2>carry On Doctor rather than the senior doctor. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>we're seeing is he's propped up in bed. He's got

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<v Speaker 2>various rather grand paintings surrounding him.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it looks like an antique shop and a charity

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<v Speaker 4>shop of.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so we've fallen into an antique shop in Lavenum.

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<v Speaker 4>I like the candles as well, so he could I

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<v Speaker 4>could hold his own vigil exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>There is there is something of the antique shop meets

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<v Speaker 2>crypt about where. So why are you Richard propped up

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<v Speaker 2>on a bed? And why have you got a bell

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<v Speaker 2>from the front counter of a hotel next to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Which is the sound you heard, dear listener at the

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<v Speaker 2>start of the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I think addressed the bell first because it is rather magnificent.

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<v Speaker 3>This was a gift from a mystery mystery supporter in

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<v Speaker 3>Suffolk who lays hedges. He thought this bell that summons

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<v Speaker 3>people to this room where I'm invalided would be a

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<v Speaker 3>family life. So here you go. Yeah pleasant, actually quite.

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<v Speaker 3>Signal Box, which is yeah. So again, six people got

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<v Speaker 3>that right. It has been known that I occasionally turned

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<v Speaker 3>the shoots, and you've got to do that more or

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<v Speaker 3>trees anyway, so everything was a bit gnarled and hung up.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'd got one down and this is towards sort

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<v Speaker 3>of four o'clock, thinking I'll just do this one and

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<v Speaker 3>with a finish for the day, you know, got it

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<v Speaker 3>down on the ground. It was still slightly attached at

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<v Speaker 3>the hinge went off and checked all the little This

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<v Speaker 3>is for all the arborists and foresters who are listening,

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<v Speaker 3>who were trying to work out whether I screwed up massively,

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<v Speaker 3>and sadly the answer is we're still not sure because

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<v Speaker 3>it kind of shouldn't have done what it did. But

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<v Speaker 3>basically I cut through it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm okay, trees, that's that's what thing, that's what wood's

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<v Speaker 3>This tree is now it was a big vertical tree, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and now it's cut over and it's horizontal.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's about forty centimeters in diameter, so it's quite

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<v Speaker 3>a big, chunky tree, okay. And I need to cut

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<v Speaker 3>it just so to get the end on the ground

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<v Speaker 3>because what I want is a nice clean stump and

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<v Speaker 3>then I can rebuild my all the coppicst new shoots

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<v Speaker 3>will grow from that because then I can cut up

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<v Speaker 3>the bit on the ground later, because that can be

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<v Speaker 3>done next month. But I need to get all of

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<v Speaker 3>these down by the end of March.

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<v Speaker 4>And she just had like a little bit left on it.

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<v Speaker 4>How much are we talking?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? The bit I was cutting through was a whole

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<v Speaker 3>tree's with because it's just that it was still attached

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<v Speaker 3>at both ends, which is for anyone who cuts trees.

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<v Speaker 3>That's foreshadowing. Anyway, I'm trying to make the story quicker.

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<v Speaker 3>The tree had a hell of a lot of tension

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<v Speaker 3>in it, which I cut for and expected to be there.

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<v Speaker 3>What I didn't expect was this weird corkscrew tension thing

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<v Speaker 3>that built up as it had fallen and twisted and

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<v Speaker 3>moved and things, which meant there's a special cut you

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<v Speaker 3>do to cut through windblow, which I did. But I

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<v Speaker 3>got to the very last sort of centimeter of that cut,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't remember much until I was on the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>What happened was the tree sort of kicked up and

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<v Speaker 3>then out and then sideways and then down and kicked

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<v Speaker 3>me about three meters off to the side by Imagine

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<v Speaker 3>a really big tree shaped horse kicking you just in

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<v Speaker 3>the shin, just below the kneecap. If you've ever walked

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<v Speaker 3>into the towbar of a pickup truck, yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 3>that feeling on your shin. Imagine that. But about seventy

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<v Speaker 3>miles an hour.

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<v Speaker 4>So that bent my knee back to coffee table in

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<v Speaker 4>the dark.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it's still there. I've got a spray painters and

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<v Speaker 3>else I'm merely one allowed to kill it. Now they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to mount it on the wall. So the kind

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<v Speaker 3>of sort of came to I don't think I lost consciousness,

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<v Speaker 3>it was just sort of I don't remember the mid

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<v Speaker 3>air bit, chainsaw still running on my leg, got that

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<v Speaker 3>dealt with, call for help, and then it became a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a is that broken? Is it not broken?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it broken? Is it not broken? And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>when you're not moving your feet are you're thinking that's

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<v Speaker 3>probably a good sign. I'm go okay there and start

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<v Speaker 3>doing my own primary and secondary survey in my own

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<v Speaker 3>first aid, and I think this is okay. I think

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<v Speaker 3>I've just bruised and winded myself and got away with this.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I go to stand up, and then there's

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<v Speaker 3>the crunchy pain and the crunchy pain. Normally it's broken

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<v Speaker 3>a bone. They know what the crunchy pain is.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never broken a plone, but I can sort of

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<v Speaker 4>I can picture it well, any kind of crunchy pain,

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<v Speaker 4>I can picture it in my head and I don't

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<v Speaker 4>like it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like an ache and a pain and you can

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<v Speaker 3>feel the sharpness of different bits of both edges of

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<v Speaker 3>bone hitting each other that shouldn't hit each other. So

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<v Speaker 3>Amy got to be at this point, and we were

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<v Speaker 3>actually first called non emergency number because I thought the

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<v Speaker 3>NHS is craping whales. It'll take forever to get an

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<v Speaker 3>ambulance and I'll die forget the hospital. So I want

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<v Speaker 3>to find out which of the English hospitals has got

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<v Speaker 3>the least que at the moment, because I'll drive an

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<v Speaker 3>hour to get seen there. And I got through it

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<v Speaker 3>all the way through the do you have a mental

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<v Speaker 3>health emergency? Do you have this? Do you have that?

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<v Speaker 3>Got through to it and they said your call will

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<v Speaker 3>be answered in sixty seven minutes. What sad that? So

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<v Speaker 3>then rang nine ninet nine and so straight away Amy

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<v Speaker 3>gives the situation things as it's a forestry thing, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's a crush injury sort of. It's a it's not

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<v Speaker 3>a chainsaw injury. This is where we are, this is

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<v Speaker 3>what the casualty is doing. Answered all their questions. They

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<v Speaker 3>were fine on the phone. Did what three words for

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<v Speaker 3>the gate to the woodland and what three words remained

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<v Speaker 3>crap because I think it was like livingness or something

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<v Speaker 3>was one of the words. It's not a real word,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, technically it's in the dictionary, but it's not

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<v Speaker 3>a word you'd ever say. You have to spell it

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<v Speaker 3>out forty seven times. But did all that, and then

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<v Speaker 3>they said, okay, and the ambulance will be three hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't die.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well I can't. Yes, Well, I'm just gonna I've

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<v Speaker 3>got to get to the edge of the wood anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>So I started hobbling, and there's a couple of bits

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<v Speaker 3>in this story which that hobble of about three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>meters hopping on one leg holding a very big sort

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<v Speaker 3>of ash pole as a walking stick, and Amy holding

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<v Speaker 3>me on the other side. It's not the hopping that

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<v Speaker 3>was a problem of it was that every time I hopped,

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<v Speaker 3>my broken bone.

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<v Speaker 1>Went separated so nice.

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<v Speaker 3>And then clayed together. And that was you know, you've

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<v Speaker 3>got your pain scale go zero to ten. That was

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<v Speaker 3>about a ten point five every single step step. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, you'd have to ask Amy, but there was

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of grunting and noises and unpleasantness, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>probably sudden she's quite familiar with anyway. The the.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what she wrote in.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Usual February the fourteen stuff that.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't scream that hopping out was, without exaggeration, the

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<v Speaker 3>hardest thing I've ever physically done in my life. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>no contest, and I've done some stupid stuff. About halfway

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<v Speaker 3>through that heard a very low helicopter approaching, which became

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<v Speaker 3>very close, and I said to Amy, I really hope

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<v Speaker 3>that's not for me, And it turns out yes it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the brand new EC one four five Air

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<v Speaker 3>Ambulance of the North Wales branch of welsh Are Ambulance,

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<v Speaker 3>who just happened to be in the area, saw the

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<v Speaker 3>job them in and thought they'd come and have a look.

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<v Speaker 3>So they landed in the neighbor's field.

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<v Speaker 4>Imagine just talking about the helicopter and just thinking, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a bit like the poor patrol, you know, suddenly

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<v Speaker 4>rubble rubbles, he's going to get a job on.

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's like the uber gig economy, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>So?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I love that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they pick you up in this helicopter then, Richard?

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<v Speaker 3>No, So what they did was they sort of arrived

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<v Speaker 3>and they had some students on board as well, so

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's also so they were I was being

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<v Speaker 3>train a training tool, but.

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<v Speaker 5>A wild forester. They don't come out, but when they

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<v Speaker 5>do well. They injured themselves did a very geeky.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing when I when I arrived, because I was sort

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<v Speaker 3>of like Amy had gone to meet them at the

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<v Speaker 3>gate and they came ahead of her, so they arrived

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<v Speaker 3>to meet me in the field on my own, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sort of lying on my side, so I did

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<v Speaker 3>my own handover sort of. It went into autopilot a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit from something a long time ago, saying, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm a male forty two. I don't I've had

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<v Speaker 3>a crush injury to my left lower lege.

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<v Speaker 5>Brilliant.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have any allergies. I don't have any Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think I got told to shut up. So

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<v Speaker 3>the doctor saw me there. She was great assessed. She said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it could be broken, might just be a really massive bruise.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not going to die immediately. But here have this

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<v Speaker 3>big green whistle that says pen Throcks on the side

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<v Speaker 3>of it. Now, Penthrocks is amazing. It's they used to

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<v Speaker 3>give you sort of ketamine for big broken bones and

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like that. But no, now they give you this

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<v Speaker 3>stuff because it doesn't last very long. But it means

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<v Speaker 3>every time you need to move, you just take a

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<v Speaker 3>big hit on this little whistle vaporizer thing and you

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<v Speaker 3>have no feeling for about thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's really good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's just my little burst of something for superhuman

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<v Speaker 4>for sort thirty seconds only.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you could just take take a hit on this.

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<v Speaker 3>You're hovering in the corner of the ambulance thirty seconds

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<v Speaker 3>and then you come back down. It's quite nice. They

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<v Speaker 3>packaged me up and then a road ambulance turned up

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<v Speaker 3>and they said, well you're here that you can take him,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they flew away again.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice to feel wanted.

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<v Speaker 5>You didn't get a flight, You just got a sort

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<v Speaker 5>of a drive by.

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<v Speaker 3>We're muttering something about sort of load and weightissues and

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well sorry, mate, we can't take you. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>all these we've got all these students on board. Haven't

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<v Speaker 1>got space for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, students survived on beans on toast, so they

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<v Speaker 4>can get like four students to one predo.

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<v Speaker 1>That's actually a measurement, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a bit like double degger buses and the size

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<v Speaker 2>of whales and football pitches. There's four students to one prido.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's what it is. It's a proper measurement for

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<v Speaker 2>the BBC US exactly that.

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<v Speaker 3>So then it was just an into a any our

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<v Speaker 3>local A and E has been well. The whole trust

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<v Speaker 3>here has been in special measures since about twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>They had a brief break in during COVID where they

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<v Speaker 3>just turned off being in special measures, but now they're

429
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<v Speaker 3>back into being in special measures, which means very limited

430
00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:19.720
<v Speaker 3>budget for staff, although the executive seemed to get loads

431
00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:21.240
<v Speaker 3>of money and no one else on the ground seems

432
00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:27.119
<v Speaker 3>to get anything. And it is oh, it's a legendary

433
00:24:27.160 --> 00:24:29.400
<v Speaker 3>shit show. When they talk about the problems of the

434
00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:32.400
<v Speaker 3>NHS in Wales, we are the problems of the NHS

435
00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:36.279
<v Speaker 3>in Wales in our little, very rural northern half. So

436
00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:39.359
<v Speaker 3>went into there. Benefit of being seen by a doctor

437
00:24:39.400 --> 00:24:41.319
<v Speaker 3>already is you don't have to go through triage, you

438
00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:46.880
<v Speaker 3>get sent in for X rays. X rays were normal

439
00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:49.119
<v Speaker 3>fun stuff. Although are sort of shouting through into the

440
00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:51.720
<v Speaker 3>little cubicle bit saying can you tell me if it's broken,

441
00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:53.440
<v Speaker 3>and they're saying, well, no, we can't tell you it's

442
00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:56.359
<v Speaker 3>the consultant. But the paramedic who'd brought me in, whose

443
00:24:56.400 --> 00:25:00.119
<v Speaker 3>ex Special Forces and been chatting along about stuff. He

444
00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:03.519
<v Speaker 3>just looks at leans over looks at the screen, looks

445
00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:07.119
<v Speaker 3>at me, laughs, and puts the thumb down. So I

446
00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:09.599
<v Speaker 3>know then it was you know it's a bit broke

447
00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:17.440
<v Speaker 3>for yeah, fuck mate. Yeah, And then went into slow

448
00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:19.200
<v Speaker 3>weight to get a bed, and then got a bed

449
00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:21.799
<v Speaker 3>just before midnight, I think. And then last thing the

450
00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:23.519
<v Speaker 3>nurse said to me before she turned out the light

451
00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:25.440
<v Speaker 3>was well, the consultant will see you in the morning

452
00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:28.079
<v Speaker 3>and we'll see whether you'll save the leg. What.

453
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<v Speaker 5>No, Yeah, your last words before you go to sleep.

454
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And then well I also I'd had to cut

455
00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:38.240
<v Speaker 3>my own trousers off at this point because she didn't

456
00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:40.480
<v Speaker 3>know how to deal with chainsaw trousers. I don't think

457
00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:42.960
<v Speaker 3>she's sort of seen them in Bangladesh. So I had

458
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:47.279
<v Speaker 3>to cut my own chainsaw trousers off in bed with

459
00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:50.000
<v Speaker 3>a broken leg, which was fun. Went for a cat

460
00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:52.039
<v Speaker 3>scan in the middle of the night. I vaguely remember that,

461
00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:57.640
<v Speaker 3>and all sorts of things. Then the consultant, he said

462
00:25:57.640 --> 00:26:00.599
<v Speaker 3>it was a very basically I've cocked myself up properly.

463
00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:08.359
<v Speaker 3>The break itself is a Shatka type two, which means phibia. Yeah,

464
00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:11.440
<v Speaker 3>so it's the it's the tibia, so it's the big

465
00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:13.839
<v Speaker 3>bone and you lower your lower leg, not the little bone.

466
00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:17.640
<v Speaker 3>And if you imagine sort of a standard bone shape

467
00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:19.400
<v Speaker 3>like you get from a deer or something like that,

468
00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:21.799
<v Speaker 3>you get that the top of it, the end of it,

469
00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:24.440
<v Speaker 3>sort of a weird oval shape with a bit of

470
00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:27.400
<v Speaker 3>incrustation on it, isn't it, And you get the double

471
00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:31.279
<v Speaker 3>hoop thing. One a half of those has snapped off,

472
00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:35.599
<v Speaker 3>which means if I put weight on it properly, my

473
00:26:35.680 --> 00:26:40.960
<v Speaker 3>leg would have gone sideways like a twiglet. So just

474
00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:44.200
<v Speaker 3>come out the yeah, and probably blown all all the

475
00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:46.119
<v Speaker 3>other stuff with it. And that's what they were worried about,

476
00:26:46.279 --> 00:26:48.559
<v Speaker 3>was because my leg had gone back was like a

477
00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:51.640
<v Speaker 3>kangaroo as well, apparently, and they'd found sort of evidence

478
00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:54.640
<v Speaker 3>of bone marrow in the joint and all the sorts

479
00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:58.759
<v Speaker 3>of other bits. So info surgery on Sunday. It's been plated,

480
00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:03.160
<v Speaker 3>it's been fill and lifted and all sorts, and that's

481
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:08.160
<v Speaker 3>just over a week ago now, and I can't put

482
00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:11.319
<v Speaker 3>my I can't put weight on my foot again until

483
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:15.680
<v Speaker 3>the end of May, which is kind of one of

484
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:17.319
<v Speaker 3>those things to think, Okay, well, I just have crutches

485
00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:19.799
<v Speaker 3>on a hobble, But it also means you can't walk

486
00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:23.680
<v Speaker 3>around whilst holding something until the end of May, which

487
00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:26.200
<v Speaker 3>when you think about, for our lives, how much time

488
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:29.839
<v Speaker 3>you spend, you know, holding a tool whilst working somewhere,

489
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:34.720
<v Speaker 3>or using a camera or using something like that. Yeah,

490
00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:36.759
<v Speaker 3>if you're a practical person, there's a lot of stuff

491
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:41.720
<v Speaker 3>you do that's like that. So and then six months

492
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:45.039
<v Speaker 3>for mountains and heavy work on my leg and things

493
00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:48.519
<v Speaker 3>like that. But it looks it went well. Surgery took

494
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:54.640
<v Speaker 3>twice as long as expected. And oh, the anesthetis was

495
00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:57.960
<v Speaker 3>fantastic because she wasn't worried about operating on a forty

496
00:27:58.000 --> 00:27:59.759
<v Speaker 3>two year old, incredibly large male.

497
00:28:01.799 --> 00:28:05.960
<v Speaker 5>Get the elephant one, Get the big, big syringe. I

498
00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:06.359
<v Speaker 5>love you.

499
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:13.200
<v Speaker 3>She came in and she was reassuringly middle aged and autistics,

500
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:15.839
<v Speaker 3>exactly what I want for somebody dealing with numbers of

501
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:18.240
<v Speaker 3>my health. And she said, you know, do you want

502
00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:21.039
<v Speaker 3>general anesthetic or you can have an epidural when you'll

503
00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:23.680
<v Speaker 3>beat you'd be awake, but it'd be under sedationous. General,

504
00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:26.240
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be in the room. General, there's

505
00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:30.960
<v Speaker 3>a risk, okay, okay, And if you if we need

506
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:33.640
<v Speaker 3>to give you a suppository during the operation, do we

507
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:41.559
<v Speaker 3>have your consent, Darlin, I'm alive at the end of it.

508
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Trust you me, my dear. This is absolutely fine.

509
00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:49.839
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, I mean, do I have to pay extra?

510
00:28:50.319 --> 00:28:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Or is this something that's just part of the service.

511
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Something this is brilliant.

512
00:28:55.519 --> 00:29:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Yes, But do you know isn't that fascinating the of yours?

513
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:03.720
<v Speaker 2>You know this is something because when you told me

514
00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:07.119
<v Speaker 2>about this, it was something I did a quick look

515
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:10.920
<v Speaker 2>up on some of this stuff. Now, those of us

516
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:15.720
<v Speaker 2>who actually physically work hands on in forestry and farming

517
00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:21.440
<v Speaker 2>make up a mere one percent of the British workforce,

518
00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:29.079
<v Speaker 2>yet our work contributes to eighteen percent, eighteen one eight

519
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:35.799
<v Speaker 2>eighteen percent of all fatalities. And when you describe what's happened,

520
00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:37.839
<v Speaker 2>you know this is just this wasn't something where you

521
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:40.440
<v Speaker 2>went this is a bit of a risky one, or

522
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:42.559
<v Speaker 2>you go and think I'll do that just you were

523
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:45.240
<v Speaker 2>aware of the risks. But this thing just bit you

524
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.119
<v Speaker 2>on the ass. And like I say, when you suddenly

525
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:50.519
<v Speaker 2>a given that thing we'll see if we can save

526
00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:56.400
<v Speaker 2>the leg It shows you that that eighteen percent of

527
00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:01.119
<v Speaker 2>all fatalities at work, which is a disparate portionately large number,

528
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:06.000
<v Speaker 2>are made up in agriculture and forestry. And what I'm

529
00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:10.599
<v Speaker 2>I believe is that what you encountered with the challenges

530
00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:14.680
<v Speaker 2>that you had there, all the problems of that the

531
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:18.279
<v Speaker 2>NHS faces, which no one ever talks about, that the

532
00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:23.440
<v Speaker 2>NHS in rural areas is basically even worse than the

533
00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:27.839
<v Speaker 2>NHS everywhere else because you know there are on average

534
00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:29.559
<v Speaker 2>it's thirty percent.

535
00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Longer response times.

536
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:35.079
<v Speaker 2>Is we will get it doesn't matter whether you're in

537
00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:38.680
<v Speaker 2>deepest dark, darkest North Wales like you or in Suffolk.

538
00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:44.920
<v Speaker 2>You're facing thirty percent as a minimum longer call out times.

539
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Yet you are facing.

540
00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:50.839
<v Speaker 2>A far more likely thing of getting properly smashed up

541
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:53.279
<v Speaker 2>or eighteen percent of the time you're actually going to

542
00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:57.200
<v Speaker 2>get killed because of the nature of what we're we're

543
00:30:57.279 --> 00:31:02.319
<v Speaker 2>working in. So, I mean, unfortunately, what we've seen with

544
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Callum was just the malaise of what it's like having

545
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:09.079
<v Speaker 2>a two year old child and you think, oh my god,

546
00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:14.279
<v Speaker 2>you never thought that any coin could kill. But what

547
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:18.400
<v Speaker 2>you've experienced, which is probably more app a site to

548
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Country Slide because it highlights the fact that rural areas

549
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:29.000
<v Speaker 2>are short changed. Because this is the funny thing. When

550
00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:31.680
<v Speaker 2>I was looking up as where the challenges are. In

551
00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:36.480
<v Speaker 2>the House of Lords report on NHS Failings in Rural Areas,

552
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:40.440
<v Speaker 2>it says that the current funding formula fails to account

553
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:45.119
<v Speaker 2>for and this is the quote, the unavoidable smallness of

554
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.359
<v Speaker 2>the population. So in other words, what they're go is

555
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:50.839
<v Speaker 2>that they just say, well, we need a hospital per

556
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:56.240
<v Speaker 2>x amount of people, and so therefore when you live,

557
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:58.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the population my village here is

558
00:31:58.680 --> 00:32:03.440
<v Speaker 2>four hundred and thirty five people. I think where you live,

559
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:05.440
<v Speaker 2>like you say, you look out your back door and

560
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:09.759
<v Speaker 2>you don't see any lights, so therefore you know you

561
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:13.880
<v Speaker 2>are remote and so therefore by the funding formula is

562
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:17.519
<v Speaker 2>that you don't warrant a hospital and the hospital you get,

563
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:20.160
<v Speaker 2>by the sound of it, is shit because it doesn't

564
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:21.200
<v Speaker 2>give it any money anyway.

565
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's it. It's like, you know, to take

566
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:28.680
<v Speaker 3>Callum's point about being able to almost ring around to

567
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:31.680
<v Speaker 3>find a hospital within East Anglia that we're willing to

568
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:32.759
<v Speaker 3>take on the challenge.

569
00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:38.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, we had Broomfield, which is less than forty

570
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:39.599
<v Speaker 4>minutes away.

571
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:41.240
<v Speaker 5>I think from from Harlowe.

572
00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:44.559
<v Speaker 4>You had Cambridge, so you had you had several to

573
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:48.880
<v Speaker 4>and several to go at and and you had to

574
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:52.319
<v Speaker 4>they pull the resources and you get you get more.

575
00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:55.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying it's definitely wasn't perfect. There was a

576
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:59.880
<v Speaker 4>long old wait. This sort of thing should be dealt

577
00:32:59.880 --> 00:33:03.599
<v Speaker 4>with quite quickly because it can cause irritation, it could

578
00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:10.720
<v Speaker 4>have dislodged. There's it's immediately. It's not life threatening, but

579
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:13.680
<v Speaker 4>it should have been dealt with a lot more urgency.

580
00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:15.920
<v Speaker 5>So it was far from perfect.

581
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:22.000
<v Speaker 4>And also for like the staff encouraged you to give

582
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:26.440
<v Speaker 4>proper feedback on your experience and don't hold back on

583
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:31.440
<v Speaker 4>it because they're fighting that could fight as well. So

584
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:36.240
<v Speaker 4>it's not perfect. But just like you say, the availability

585
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:37.000
<v Speaker 4>is there.

586
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:41.400
<v Speaker 3>And people alone can't make things happen like okay, So

587
00:33:41.559 --> 00:33:43.559
<v Speaker 3>a bit of an example from my stay, because there's

588
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:45.599
<v Speaker 3>probably half a dozen little things I could pick up

589
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:48.799
<v Speaker 3>on bad it's not the point of the story, but

590
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:52.599
<v Speaker 3>something like I was in the same hospital gown that

591
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:55.519
<v Speaker 3>I put on myself after I cut myself out of

592
00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:57.920
<v Speaker 3>my trousers on the Saturday night. I was still wearing

593
00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:01.319
<v Speaker 3>that same gown when I checked out six days later,

594
00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:04.839
<v Speaker 3>which I'd had surgery and had blood on from the surgery,

595
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:07.519
<v Speaker 3>and I was still in the same sheets. I'd got

596
00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:10.360
<v Speaker 3>into that bed with muddy chainsaw trousers, so those sheets

597
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:14.519
<v Speaker 3>still had the mud from my getting into you know,

598
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:18.079
<v Speaker 3>getting into the bed straight after A and E all

599
00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:20.320
<v Speaker 3>the way through to checking out. And that's just because

600
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:22.719
<v Speaker 3>the laundry just doesn't work at the moment, and they've

601
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:27.639
<v Speaker 3>got no other hospitals nearby to swap with, so you're

602
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:31.920
<v Speaker 3>just not getting clean laundry, which is real basic stuff.

603
00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:47.360
<v Speaker 4>It's extends to rural school based on the population, and

604
00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:52.440
<v Speaker 4>so you'll find that when you've got a rural rural

605
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:56.239
<v Speaker 4>school versus a well, they close half the rural schools,

606
00:34:56.280 --> 00:34:57.679
<v Speaker 4>don't they if.

607
00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:00.039
<v Speaker 3>You amalgamate them into one and you put.

608
00:34:59.880 --> 00:35:03.079
<v Speaker 4>Me the amount of you know, if it gets to

609
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:05.400
<v Speaker 4>like there's only ten students in a class, it's like

610
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:08.360
<v Speaker 4>cut that right, You're going to now go to one

611
00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:13.760
<v Speaker 4>single place somewhere else. And yeah, this, I think this

612
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:19.800
<v Speaker 4>is the rural urban difference is amplified across.

613
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Well if you look at it, I mean, one of

614
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:25.280
<v Speaker 2>the few things that I remember from the army myself

615
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:28.840
<v Speaker 2>and ase, but also hearing about the learnings they got

616
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:34.119
<v Speaker 2>from the great unpleasantnesses in Iraq and Afghanistan was the

617
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:40.320
<v Speaker 2>understanding for the immediacy of correct care and pain relief

618
00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:46.880
<v Speaker 2>after severe trauma. And when you look at the sheer

619
00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:51.760
<v Speaker 2>scale of numbers that people who are working in agriculture

620
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:58.920
<v Speaker 2>and forestry get, it does slightly show that they the hospitals,

621
00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:01.400
<v Speaker 2>these new mega hospital that they have. Is that say

622
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:03.960
<v Speaker 2>We're going to put all our eggs in one wonderful

623
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:05.719
<v Speaker 2>basket and it will be all super because we've got

624
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:07.639
<v Speaker 2>all these experts, et cetera.

625
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:09.480
<v Speaker 1>All under one roof.

626
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:13.599
<v Speaker 2>Is it that is not following those principles because we're

627
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:16.000
<v Speaker 2>more likely to get smashed up and hurt.

628
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Let me just think that the tools of our.

629
00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Trade are quite frequently the things that you see in

630
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:25.079
<v Speaker 2>horror slasher films being used as weapons.

631
00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Yet they're actually the tools that we use.

632
00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:30.559
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm using what a bill hook, a chainsaw,

633
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:33.960
<v Speaker 2>and thaw's hammer, So you know that's nearly every single

634
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:36.079
<v Speaker 2>film that you could possibly see that's got a mass

635
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:39.239
<v Speaker 2>murder in it. I'm using those tools in my day

636
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:42.079
<v Speaker 2>job and it is just a matter of time.

637
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Then you're going to get that book.

638
00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Because in Suffolk you've got two hospitals, You've got Ipswich

639
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:51.559
<v Speaker 2>or you've got West Suffolk over embarrassent Edmunds.

640
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Ipswich is not a very good.

641
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Hostel because it's over pressed by the sheer scale of

642
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:02.840
<v Speaker 2>individuals who live because our county is just basically Ipswich

643
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:06.199
<v Speaker 2>is the one large conurbation and that's it. And West

644
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:10.079
<v Speaker 2>Suffolk it's quite a nice hospital. You get well looked after,

645
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:13.239
<v Speaker 2>then you get seen quite quickly. So I can't really

646
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:16.960
<v Speaker 2>honestly say hands on, BUTOK, what they have done is

647
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:20.440
<v Speaker 2>that all the smaller cottage hospitals, like we had one

648
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:24.760
<v Speaker 2>in Eye which was here, you had one in Halesworth,

649
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:27.079
<v Speaker 2>you had one in Southwold. You had all these little

650
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:31.360
<v Speaker 2>cottage hospitals where you could have got those individuals into

651
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:34.280
<v Speaker 2>very quickly. You could have got the immediacy of the

652
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:38.719
<v Speaker 2>trauma stabilized, that leg of yours would have been sorted,

653
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:41.360
<v Speaker 2>you'd have done all the things that were needed, and

654
00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:45.320
<v Speaker 2>then you trianged that patient off to where the expertise

655
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:48.519
<v Speaker 2>was done. That's all been taken away. So I think

656
00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:51.840
<v Speaker 2>one of the learnings we got of the immediacy of

657
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:54.920
<v Speaker 2>care that you need, and there is a greater need

658
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:58.719
<v Speaker 2>for that immediacy of care because we are statistically much

659
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:03.159
<v Speaker 2>more likely to get severely hurt and injured at work,

660
00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:06.000
<v Speaker 2>far more so than any other trade in the country.

661
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:10.719
<v Speaker 2>That you think, well, it's not working our OWNHS system

662
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:14.239
<v Speaker 2>for this, because it's not providing the care that we

663
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:18.519
<v Speaker 2>need for the majority of stuff where you're going to

664
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:24.000
<v Speaker 2>end up actually dead. And it is it is, I

665
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:24.280
<v Speaker 2>don't know.

666
00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:27.039
<v Speaker 1>We pay the price for a rural life, don't we.

667
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:36.480
<v Speaker 6>An interesting an interesting observation of that is that the people,

668
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:44.119
<v Speaker 6>the family units that I see in rural places often

669
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:49.400
<v Speaker 6>mean that the man is the breadwinner, the provider.

670
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:55.840
<v Speaker 4>They usually are everything to the family. And if that

671
00:38:55.960 --> 00:39:01.239
<v Speaker 4>person you know, slips with a chainsaw, that's that's wife,

672
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:05.719
<v Speaker 4>that's kids, that's the family farm, that's a lot that

673
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:10.559
<v Speaker 4>goes you know, that goes to key with. Whereas, like

674
00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:17.679
<v Speaker 4>i'd say, a much larger proportion of the urban I mean,

675
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:21.480
<v Speaker 4>I know quite a few people that they're other halves

676
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:24.880
<v Speaker 4>because we're in towns and cities and commuting into London.

677
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:27.840
<v Speaker 4>Their other halves have got fancy jobs in the city

678
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:32.119
<v Speaker 4>and often they earn more than them. But when you're

679
00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:39.039
<v Speaker 4>when your economy isn't necessarily it is practical things where

680
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:42.119
<v Speaker 4>you're out, you know, doing hard.

681
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:45.480
<v Speaker 3>Job, present on sites at that time to do the.

682
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:50.280
<v Speaker 4>Thing now usually yeah, usually it's the man that has

683
00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:55.079
<v Speaker 4>the is the breadwinner because it's not it's not necessarily

684
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:59.159
<v Speaker 4>knowledge work, so that it doesn't become a fair level

685
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:02.920
<v Speaker 4>pegging between female gender roles usually, So.

686
00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:06.559
<v Speaker 5>I think huge risk for.

687
00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:14.320
<v Speaker 4>Rural families to have terrible health care and to take

688
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:15.519
<v Speaker 4>such risks.

689
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:18.760
<v Speaker 5>But that's the reality.

690
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:24.079
<v Speaker 3>There's an aging population level to that as well, which

691
00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:27.400
<v Speaker 3>is a thing for rural areas where increasingly it is

692
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:29.360
<v Speaker 3>the place you come to retire. You move out of

693
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:31.199
<v Speaker 3>the towns, out of the suburbs. You don't need to

694
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:32.920
<v Speaker 3>be next to a place of work, so you can

695
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:36.679
<v Speaker 3>buy probably the more expensive property out in the country,

696
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:39.280
<v Speaker 3>or you steered the end of your career so that

697
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:41.679
<v Speaker 3>you would retire in a nice house in the countryside,

698
00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:45.280
<v Speaker 3>which is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but it does

699
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:51.480
<v Speaker 3>mean that we have an aging population generally. That's that's

700
00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:55.440
<v Speaker 3>calling on the NHS and in my particular case, in

701
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:58.599
<v Speaker 3>the whole orthopedic ward, I was the youngest person there

702
00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:01.559
<v Speaker 3>by a margin of twenty years. Yeah. Everyone else over

703
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:02.519
<v Speaker 3>there was over sixty.

704
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:03.880
<v Speaker 1>They'd all had a full.

705
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, or d replacements or just hips, or they were

706
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:10.119
<v Speaker 3>waiting for the care home to take them back or

707
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:14.199
<v Speaker 3>something like that. And it was you've got this in

708
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:18.760
<v Speaker 3>the economically inactive aging population, which the local services have

709
00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:23.920
<v Speaker 3>to gear up towards. Meanwhile, the economy that runs it

710
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:28.039
<v Speaker 3>is based on a functional lower age bracket which is

711
00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:31.039
<v Speaker 3>finding it increasingly hard to do anything.

712
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:35.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's absolutely true, I think to your point, callum,

713
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:38.079
<v Speaker 2>I think, well, it's an interesting thing is that I

714
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:42.119
<v Speaker 2>think that you'll find most farms, and my own business

715
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:46.400
<v Speaker 2>is a good example of that, is that my wife

716
00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:51.360
<v Speaker 2>and I rely upon one another wholeheartedly to make my

717
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:55.400
<v Speaker 2>business work. I'm out there doing the hedging, but she

718
00:41:55.519 --> 00:42:00.960
<v Speaker 2>does all the paperwork, She does all of the the marketing,

719
00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:06.840
<v Speaker 2>pr comms, everything along that front. All the work comes

720
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:09.159
<v Speaker 2>in because of the work she does. Are pushing it

721
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:11.039
<v Speaker 2>out there. I go out and do it. And I

722
00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:12.559
<v Speaker 2>think that that is a lot of the time. On

723
00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:15.760
<v Speaker 2>the farms, you'll find so often is that the farmer's

724
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:20.159
<v Speaker 2>out farming, but his wife is the farm secretary, the

725
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:22.840
<v Speaker 2>person who's doing all the paperwork for dephrah, the person

726
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:23.920
<v Speaker 2>who's doing those.

727
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Jobs more locally in the yard.

728
00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:30.119
<v Speaker 2>If they've got mixed farming practices, then you might find

729
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:34.679
<v Speaker 2>husbands out working away from the yard. The cattle getting

730
00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:37.800
<v Speaker 2>fed in the yard are done by a wife. I mean,

731
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:43.039
<v Speaker 2>it's something which sounds to probably some urban ears, this disgusting.

732
00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:44.480
<v Speaker 5>Sort of paper bierarchy.

733
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:49.079
<v Speaker 2>But it's the reality, you know, It's just how shit happens.

734
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Because let's be perfectly honest, in an arm wrestle between

735
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:54.679
<v Speaker 2>me and Claire, I'm going to win. That's the long

736
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:57.159
<v Speaker 2>and the short of it, because I've got more muscle

737
00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:00.960
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of our work relies upon on nothing

738
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:04.559
<v Speaker 2>more than a bit of time, serve knowledge and that. So, yes,

739
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:08.280
<v Speaker 2>you're quite right, it's one of those links. We are knackered.

740
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:10.920
<v Speaker 5>This is the point you said you lose.

741
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:14.599
<v Speaker 4>One of those links being being the farm secretary very

742
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:19.559
<v Speaker 4>unlikely to get gored by metal machinery because you're the.

743
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Sight in the yard and then gets knocked over by

744
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:28.599
<v Speaker 2>the tractor. That's that's the where you're going out. The beef.

745
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:31.559
<v Speaker 3>Or the shared children you have between you, they're the

746
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:36.760
<v Speaker 3>ones that get run over, or.

747
00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:41.079
<v Speaker 4>All the episodes of Casualty you've ever watched, and what

748
00:43:41.239 --> 00:43:46.599
<v Speaker 4>the what was it reversing into the.

749
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:50.079
<v Speaker 5>Gas calor gas you.

750
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:53.960
<v Speaker 2>That work, that work, anything, basically, any single thing we

751
00:43:54.039 --> 00:44:00.639
<v Speaker 2>do as a job is like the opening credits of Casualty.

752
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:02.639
<v Speaker 2>And here we have Richard.

753
00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:03.880
<v Speaker 5>I've seen you at work.

754
00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:07.760
<v Speaker 4>I do know the day juggling.

755
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:11.719
<v Speaker 1>Why are you juggling those chainsaws? Because we're bored, That's why?

756
00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:13.800
<v Speaker 5>Do you remember the day? I said?

757
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:19.079
<v Speaker 4>Pictures of Xavier with a chainsaw helbit and a chainsaw

758
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:24.119
<v Speaker 4>in his hands to CALLI and also looking down down

759
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:28.800
<v Speaker 4>a scope of.

760
00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:32.559
<v Speaker 5>Twice the size of him. Yeah, we're just out here

761
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:34.440
<v Speaker 5>having fun, just a big boy's day.

762
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:36.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, educational.

763
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:41.400
<v Speaker 2>I think Charlie was about ten and Claire said, I'll

764
00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:43.039
<v Speaker 2>go to work with daddy. And I said, well, I

765
00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:45.599
<v Speaker 2>suppose he's old enough now he can pull some brash

766
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:48.079
<v Speaker 2>about the place and stack it up for me behind.

767
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:50.440
<v Speaker 1>So I did exactly that thing as well.

768
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:53.480
<v Speaker 2>I took a photograph of in my little tiny echo

769
00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:57.480
<v Speaker 2>chainsaw and I didn't put chainsaw helmet on him, but.

770
00:44:57.440 --> 00:44:59.519
<v Speaker 1>I did have that. I said, touch how you hold

771
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:02.239
<v Speaker 1>is how a log click? Took a photograph.

772
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:05.239
<v Speaker 2>So Charlie's working hard, and of course Claire did not

773
00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:09.960
<v Speaker 2>see that there wasn't sort of a worrying chain and

774
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:11.159
<v Speaker 2>a load of dust coming.

775
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:16.639
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it was. I've never seen a response to what.

776
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:21.880
<v Speaker 2>If the NHS was as fast?

777
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:23.719
<v Speaker 5>It's just got three dots typing.

778
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:33.079
<v Speaker 7>You're doing you incompetent for so anyway, So we are

779
00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:38.000
<v Speaker 7>in a situation where, you know, us good tax paying

780
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:39.599
<v Speaker 7>folks have finally taken.

781
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:42.079
<v Speaker 2>The drawer out of it, and there's poor Richard laid

782
00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:46.599
<v Speaker 2>up like a like, I say, a character from a

783
00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:52.519
<v Speaker 2>carry on film and the fare's callum with some more

784
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:59.719
<v Speaker 2>loose change a machine for a child, his.

785
00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Child into a money box.

786
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Excellent. But I think we have highlighted a proper rural challenge, haven't.

787
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:13.159
<v Speaker 4>We will count that as income, probably we'll have to put.

788
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:14.559
<v Speaker 3>We have the proof of earnings? Where did that come from?

789
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:15.159
<v Speaker 3>That penny?

790
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Exactly? Yes? How did you get this?

791
00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:20.800
<v Speaker 3>So although while while it was still in there, it

792
00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:22.320
<v Speaker 3>was unrealized, games, wasn't it.

793
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:27.400
<v Speaker 4>And we're just into the new tax year because it's

794
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:32.760
<v Speaker 4>the seventh technically ship technically she took a one pence

795
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:35.480
<v Speaker 4>piece from one tax year to the next tax.

796
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:41.519
<v Speaker 1>Is that tax avoidance or evasion? I don't know which.

797
00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I'd say it's evasion. Yeah, anyway, there we go.

798
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:50.719
<v Speaker 2>Look, look, we have been told by Amy that we've

799
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:53.840
<v Speaker 2>got to be slick and tight today, and you.

800
00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Know, well, I've got one thing I'd like to just

801
00:46:56.920 --> 00:47:01.199
<v Speaker 3>finish off on, which is thank you to everyone I've

802
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:03.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, who interacted with me on the ground as

803
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:07.360
<v Speaker 3>it were. But I want to say thank you in

804
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:10.920
<v Speaker 3>particular to Amy and my mother who's had to come

805
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:16.400
<v Speaker 3>over here as well, because basically I'm bedridden and you know,

806
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:20.280
<v Speaker 3>without going into all the mechanics of that, I can

807
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:23.320
<v Speaker 3>barely leave this room at the moment, so every other

808
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:25.519
<v Speaker 3>need of mine has to have to be taken care of.

809
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:30.920
<v Speaker 3>And I think I've been insufferable, but it is. My

810
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:33.960
<v Speaker 3>first job was working in a care home, my very

811
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:37.679
<v Speaker 3>very first proper paid paye job working in a care

812
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:43.920
<v Speaker 3>home for wealthy Jewish ex Londoners in Cornwall. So I

813
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:45.639
<v Speaker 3>know what it's like to be a care I know

814
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:47.880
<v Speaker 3>what it's like on the other end of that. So

815
00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:50.480
<v Speaker 3>I know that this is not easy for them, and

816
00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:52.119
<v Speaker 3>I want to say thank you to them and highlight

817
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:54.639
<v Speaker 3>their efforts for looking after me and not killing me

818
00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:55.239
<v Speaker 3>in my sleep.

819
00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Excellent.

820
00:47:56.400 --> 00:47:59.679
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to say sorry to Amy and Richard's mum

821
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:02.480
<v Speaker 2>for buying that bloody bell, but I thought it would

822
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:06.320
<v Speaker 2>be funny so that he every time he needs his

823
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:08.119
<v Speaker 2>ass wiping, they know.

824
00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well this is this is it, this is the stuff.

825
00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:14.159
<v Speaker 3>But there will be people up now in the country

826
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:16.360
<v Speaker 3>listening to this who either have been in the situation,

827
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:19.559
<v Speaker 3>are are going to be in the situation, their partner,

828
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:22.679
<v Speaker 3>their parents have been in the situation. So you know,

829
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:25.000
<v Speaker 3>it's it was a bit flippant, but we know what

830
00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:27.320
<v Speaker 3>it's like. After show.

831
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:30.079
<v Speaker 1>Yes, bye everyone, After show

832
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:43.880
<v Speaker 3>Bye.
