Speaker 1: Good morning, Welcome to the NOWE Jose podcast. This is
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Speaker 4: Beautiful thing right now, ride shine, it is the beautiful day.
Speaker 5: A third of the building has been blown away.
Speaker 3: Our very freedom came under attack and a series of
Speaker 3: deliberate and deadly terrorist acts, and at that point we
Speaker 3: were taking for another round of questioning, this time related
Speaker 3: to our allegedly being members of Massage.
Speaker 2: It's crazy evil.
Speaker 1: Good morning. We got Ken Silva with us today. We'll
Speaker 1: be talking about the pipe bomb fed I mean, we
Speaker 1: were talking for the show. We feel it's like it
Speaker 1: feels kind of bad differ when you fed jacket people.
Speaker 1: But we're literally just reporting news today. So just the facts,
Speaker 1: then we have the Okay bomb Informant once again just
Speaker 1: reporting it facts, and then we'll close out with Kurt
Speaker 1: Killer Patsy. I'm sure we'll get some other stuff in there.
Speaker 1: Start off with I think a few stories that kind
Speaker 1: of got missed over the holiday break with their Icebreaker stuff,
Speaker 1: and I think after Ken goes we'll cover some foreign
Speaker 1: policy for the foreign policy heads that like to like
Speaker 1: to catch my take, they just say it's basically the
Speaker 1: Tower Gang version of Dave de Camps Show. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we have Ken with us today plenty to talk about Ken.
Speaker 1: How's how is your Christmas bend? It's been a wild,
Speaker 1: wild couple weeks. Just so much shit going on really
Speaker 1: is just flooding the field so that by the time
Speaker 1: the normal then things get back to normal, it feels like, oh,
Speaker 1: they forgot about a million crazy conspiracies, Like they're dropping
Speaker 1: everything on us all at once.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's been some interesting updates, although I have to say,
Speaker 6: just from the perspective as a news editor, it's been
Speaker 6: kind of slow. I mean, this is all kind of
Speaker 6: stuff that me, you and our mutuals are really interested in,
Speaker 6: but the general public isn't hasn't been following the pipe
Speaker 6: bomb case much so we need some more assassinations or
Speaker 6: something to get traffic up at my website.
Speaker 1: Careful what you wish for. I really do think it's
Speaker 1: just the holiday season. I think most people are checked
Speaker 1: out spending time with family. Even myself, I'm checking back.
Speaker 1: But like even with this being like something I do
Speaker 1: even like make some money off it, Like it is
Speaker 1: still like, you know, spend time with family, you know,
Speaker 1: the family's home and stuff. So it is like that
Speaker 1: they really did the pick the ideal time to drop
Speaker 1: all sorts of craziness on our asses, but kind start
Speaker 1: off with it. I guess I saw something you were
Speaker 1: reporting on this morning, which is to that very effect.
Speaker 1: This is a kind of our icebreaker type segment that
Speaker 1: we normally do in this show, but we'll cover a
Speaker 1: couple things that I think kind of got missed from
Speaker 1: the holiday season. This one's recent, though you you just dropped.
Speaker 1: This is over at Headline USA. That over for those
Speaker 1: aren't aware. By the way, I guess I almost have
Speaker 1: to back up because things are getting so memory hold.
Speaker 1: They just recently what like a few days ago, Like
Speaker 1: just kidding. We have like a million Epstein files and
Speaker 1: now they're doing oh just kidding. Now we have five
Speaker 1: million Epstein files, So I don't know if there's anything
Speaker 1: substantive any thoughts you have on that?
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You've probably looked through enough I mean, not necessarily that
Speaker 1: you're a lawyer or anything.
Speaker 3: We've looked through legal files and stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't This seems insane to me that
Speaker 1: that's that many documents. I don't know how many documents
Speaker 1: are typically embroiled in a single court case or you know,
Speaker 1: so it's kind of makes me wonder, holy shit, what
Speaker 1: the hell? I don't know any any thoughts and all that.
Speaker 1: I mean, are they getting ridiculous? I mean, obviously with
Speaker 1: the Epstein files, we saw some stuff that's like why
Speaker 1: is this even included in what you're can sing the files?
Speaker 1: But I guess if it's you know, a three h
Speaker 1: two or an they're going to track everything. So there
Speaker 1: is a lot of ridiculous stuff, which will actually probably
Speaker 1: talk about today.
Speaker 3: But any thoughts on it?
Speaker 1: Is it just because they're getting super vague with what
Speaker 1: they consider to be a file or what's going on here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's hard to know really what's going on behind
Speaker 6: the scenes. I mean, this is kind of like you
Speaker 6: know the Oka See case where they're about to put
Speaker 6: Timothy McVeigh to death and then they find like a
Speaker 6: trove of fifty thousand documents a month before, you know,
Speaker 6: he was scheduled get the needle, and that kind of
Speaker 6: delayed everything.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they say they have another five million files they
Speaker 6: need to review before they could release.
Speaker 2: Who knows what's in there.
Speaker 6: They did produce eight million documents about January six just
Speaker 6: in discovery, so that's just to give people kind of
Speaker 6: a perspective that, you know, January sixth was the FBI's
Speaker 6: largest investigation in the bureau's history, and so this is
Speaker 6: almost getting there, although you know, obviously this stuff wasn't
Speaker 6: actually produced in discovery. So yeah, I guess we're just
Speaker 6: gonna have to wait and see what's in it. Just
Speaker 6: you know, I guess I could recap the history since
Speaker 6: I'm looking at the picture of that influence, those influencers
Speaker 6: holding up the binders. I mean, initially Pam Bondi said
Speaker 6: the files were sitting on her desk, and then she
Speaker 6: said they were at the New York Field office and
Speaker 6: she ordered them to provide them, and I guess there
Speaker 6: were some questions about whether the FBI was being fully COOPERATIVEBI,
Speaker 6: the agents and doing the redactions have been paid over
Speaker 6: a million dollars in overtime just on this one or
Speaker 6: one project alone, so it's been quite costly, and they're
Speaker 6: probably racking up exponentially more than that, because I think
Speaker 6: those numbers were current as of March.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to another thing you covered
Speaker 1: that I did think probably got a little bit lost
Speaker 1: in the sauce.
Speaker 3: Apparently there was.
Speaker 1: New information dropped in the Iran plot, which a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't realize that. You know, this is how
Speaker 1: they vaguely tie the whole Iranian you know, assassination node
Speaker 1: into it as kind of what this vague other thing
Speaker 1: that supposedly happened. But I guess, you know, I think
Speaker 1: we covered this in the past, that they be the
Speaker 1: the ins and outs of this. I mean, I've forgotten
Speaker 1: more about this than I've known about it, But it
Speaker 1: seems like now, you know, now we're seeing that perhaps
Speaker 1: or not even perhaps they've straight up admitted the FBI
Speaker 1: was tracking this guy well before he even came into
Speaker 1: the States, like you know, well before when they said
Speaker 1: they were, So it's looking a whole lot more suspicious.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know if you're if you're one who's
Speaker 1: a I not willing to just kind of swallow the
Speaker 1: gvernment in narrative unthinkingly.
Speaker 3: It kind of makes you wonder what's going on here?
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, thanks for bringing this up, because this is
Speaker 6: actually I think this is the most interesting case going
Speaker 6: on right now. This is ASCIF Merchants, the guy who
Speaker 6: was arrested on July twelfth, twenty twenty four, the day before,
Speaker 6: you know, Trump was shot in the ear at his
Speaker 6: rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. And so when the case was announced,
Speaker 6: a lot of people kind of a lot of conspiracy
Speaker 6: theories were sparked, as were these two events related, And
Speaker 6: you know, if we're going to get tinfoil Hattie if anything,
Speaker 6: I think this case is kind of fabricated by the
Speaker 6: FBI to muddy the waters about July thirteenth and what
Speaker 6: really happened there. Possibly, if the assassination was successful, maybe
Speaker 6: they would have tied the two cases and.
Speaker 2: Use it as a pretext for war.
Speaker 6: And ever since this case was announced, you've had guys
Speaker 6: like Ted Kruz go on Tucker carlsians Tucker Carlson's show
Speaker 6: and said the FBI paid hitman to take out Trump.
Speaker 6: Even Rabbi Schmooley cited this case on Alex Jones's show
Speaker 6: a couple of months ago, and it turns out that
Speaker 6: the hitmen were undercover FBI agents. The DJ's official story
Speaker 6: was that this guy entered the country and pitched an
Speaker 6: assassination plot to an acquaintance who then approached the FBI
Speaker 6: and became an informant, and then they set up a
Speaker 6: sting operation on him. But now we know, according to
Speaker 6: these new filings, that he was being monitored. They're doing
Speaker 6: the Faiza surveillance on him before he even entered the
Speaker 6: country in March. And then we also have information that
Speaker 6: the guy, the FBI informant, was already an informant before
Speaker 6: he pitched his plot. So it really seems like a
Speaker 6: Whitmer case on steroids. And I've been saying on steroids
Speaker 6: because a lot of this case is classified. Where the
Speaker 6: Whitmer case, we pretty much have all the documents about
Speaker 6: what happened here.
Speaker 2: It's really shady. We don't know the full extent of it, but.
Speaker 6: It looks really really bad, and I guess. The last
Speaker 6: thing I'll say is that the reporter John Solomon has
Speaker 6: a source who told him that he was let in
Speaker 6: the end of the country on some significant benefit parole program,
Speaker 6: which is usually what they do to try to either
Speaker 6: flip somebody or for a sting operation.
Speaker 2: And Solomon's source.
Speaker 6: Specifically said this was like a fast and furious type
Speaker 6: operation where they're letting these potential terrorists in to America
Speaker 6: just to like track them and see where they go
Speaker 6: and what connections they make.
Speaker 1: It's great interesting makes you think about DC shooting when
Speaker 1: we found out that guy with what like part of
Speaker 1: the zero units in Afghanistan. So yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know exactly the background. This is sief guy seems
Speaker 1: like more of a porschemuck than like some sort of
Speaker 1: you know, literally a stay behind unit.
Speaker 3: Type of guy.
Speaker 1: But yeah, to kind of tie these all together, I
Speaker 1: don't know if we've gotten a chance to talk about this,
Speaker 1: but I know you've got a burning I don't know
Speaker 1: the infinity for Bongino. He's stepping down. I guess he's
Speaker 1: gonna be bouncing here in January. This is a clip
Speaker 1: I've been sitting on for a while that I figured
Speaker 1: and I almost took it out of my bookmarks, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, Ken's coming on the show. This
Speaker 1: will be fun to make fun of Bongino. U and
Speaker 1: I just I figured I didn't I didn don't know.
Speaker 1: I try to stay away from the influencer stuff, but
Speaker 1: every now and then it ties into actual substantive stuff.
Speaker 1: So I kind of was hesitant to popping this because
Speaker 1: it's got Timmy Pool in there, and i'd ended up
Speaker 1: making fun of him. But here's Timmy p I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess you know coming. I haven't watched this clip yet,
Speaker 1: so we'll watch it together for a first time. Who knows.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not being a complete and utter lol coal here,
Speaker 1: but I guess he's saying Bongino didn't do nothing. So
Speaker 1: i'd like to get your take after we watch it.
Speaker 7: Dan Bongino, I'm a huge fan. I have been a
Speaker 7: huge fan for a while. You're a gentleman and a
Speaker 7: scholar and a legend, and I know you tried your best,
Speaker 7: and I know you're doing the right thing, and I
Speaker 7: and I believe in you. It is it is crazy
Speaker 7: to me that people think this guy didn't do everything
Speaker 7: he could do. You know, because the question is who else?
Speaker 7: And I believe in Cash as well. People have been
Speaker 7: ragging on him out the jet and all that stuff,
Speaker 7: and I'm like, I'm not playing this game. Okay, I know,
Speaker 7: Cash Betel, nobody's nobody's got the the god hand. Nobody's
Speaker 7: gonna go in and just turn a page on these
Speaker 7: corrupt institutions overnight. But the idea that these men are
Speaker 7: not trying to do the best they can is laughably absurd.
Speaker 7: All you gotta do is listen to Cash Betel talk
Speaker 7: about what James Komi did, and you can hear it
Speaker 7: in his voice, his passion for weeding out the corruption.
Speaker 7: Doesn't mean you can get through no, but we start somewhere.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it was so much more worse than
Speaker 3: I thought it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's glazing there.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry. I'm trying to keep it together for
Speaker 3: thiss Okay, anyways, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 6: Can Yeah, Bongino's eight month stint as deputy director. I mean,
Speaker 6: I get the impression from the outside looking in that
Speaker 6: him and Cash are actually Trump loyalists, but they kind
Speaker 6: of just got ran by their underlings, like totally taken
Speaker 6: advantage of and misled at every turn. I mean, the
Speaker 6: first instance of this is where Bongino goes on Fox News,
Speaker 6: him and Cash, I think Cash said this on Rogan
Speaker 6: and they said, oh, we've got footage inside Epstein's prison
Speaker 6: that proves that he definitely killed himself. And right away
Speaker 6: I already have read the Inspector General's report on Epstein's
Speaker 6: suicide and they've got a really cool diagram that shows.
Speaker 2: Which cameras were working, which can weren't.
Speaker 6: And if you just read this report, you'd see that
Speaker 6: no cameras were showing Epstein's cell, So nothing conclusive could
Speaker 6: have been proven by the footage that they were touting.
Speaker 6: And of course when it comes out, it was even
Speaker 6: worse than what I predicted that they didn't show the cell.
Speaker 6: It was also like a missing minute. There was some
Speaker 6: of it that was thought to have been doctored. I
Speaker 6: don't know if it was nefarious or if it was
Speaker 6: just them transferring it from like a real to like
Speaker 6: digital format, but like they got made look to look
Speaker 6: really stupid with the whole suicide case, and then you know,
Speaker 6: things didn't really get better from there, where they're insisting
Speaker 6: that there is no client list, which I mean the
Speaker 6: client list is kind of a euphemism, but they're saying
Speaker 6: it wasn't you know, it's just Epstein and Maxwell. There
Speaker 6: wasn't anything bigger. He didn't have any clients. Dan Bongino
Speaker 6: promised Helen Comparatory, the widow of the guy who was
Speaker 6: killed at the Butler rally. She goes on a show
Speaker 6: and says, I talked to Dan and he promised me
Speaker 6: that they're going to release more documents about the Butler
Speaker 6: shooting in the coming weeks, and then.
Speaker 2: That never happened.
Speaker 6: Bongino defended the FBI's conduct in that case about hosing
Speaker 6: down the roof the very next day, releasing the body
Speaker 6: for cremation. So it pretty much at every turn he
Speaker 6: just looked worse and worse, and it just seems to
Speaker 6: me that he was getting fed intel and not even
Speaker 6: vetting it. And it's kind of like the whole capstone
Speaker 6: of his tenure is this pipe bomb arrest, which also
Speaker 6: made him look a fool because he had been saying
Speaker 6: as a podcaster that this is an inside job. It
Speaker 6: was definitely a fed who plays these pipe bombs, which
Speaker 6: I actually believe is true. But then they arrest some
Speaker 6: black autistic guy in Virginia that has no connection to
Speaker 6: the FEDS, and Bongino is the one saying that it's
Speaker 6: definitely him and this is like.
Speaker 2: My crowning achievement.
Speaker 6: And when he's asked about, well, why do you change,
Speaker 6: you know, why do you say it's not an inside
Speaker 6: job now?
Speaker 2: And he's like, oh, well, I was just a podcaster.
Speaker 6: I'm paid to get my opinion as a podcaster, and
Speaker 6: this is me speaking in capacity as a deputy director
Speaker 6: of you know, the Federal Secret Police.
Speaker 2: But of course saying it.
Speaker 6: Is an inside job, isn't like really an opinion. That's
Speaker 6: like an analysis based off of his assessment of the facts,
Speaker 6: Like an opinion would be, you know, should we have
Speaker 6: anarchy or minarchy?
Speaker 2: Should we have higher taxes or lower taxes.
Speaker 6: Like a normative opinion. This is aness, like an assessment
Speaker 6: of reality. So he's not even speaking the truth there.
Speaker 6: And now I guess he's going to come back to
Speaker 6: the podcast circuit, and I don't I think he's burned
Speaker 6: a lot of bridges.
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be kind of clowned on
Speaker 2: from all circles.
Speaker 6: I don't think he has as many allies left, although
Speaker 6: I guess Tim Poole is still like.
Speaker 1: A big fan, which I don't know what's going on there.
Speaker 1: I mean it seems un I mean whatever, who am
Speaker 1: I I mean comparatively speaking, but it looks like their
Speaker 1: number has been dwindling. And every single time I noticed that,
Speaker 1: always seems there's some other stunt that's coming out to Uh.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe maybe it's all just all organic.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It just seems it seems like a floundering a floundering
Speaker 1: establishment over there. But hey, he really means it. You
Speaker 1: can hear it in his voice. He sounded like you
Speaker 1: can just tell that, you can hear the emotion. He
Speaker 1: really delivers the lines just so good, you know. But
Speaker 1: all right, you talked about the pipe bomb, let's just
Speaker 1: go ahead and get into it, and said bearing the lead,
Speaker 1: we're going full fedjacket today. And I feel like there
Speaker 1: needs to be another word, because I feel like fed
Speaker 1: jacket implies that, like you're kind of like implying like
Speaker 1: kind of what I did to Darryl Cooper. I'll be honest,
Speaker 1: it was fed jacketing. I completely gave an argument for it.
Speaker 1: I think he's either retarded or he's that I mean
Speaker 1: I know you take your pick, but you know that
Speaker 1: is I don't have a solid We're looking at some
Speaker 1: solid shit now.
Speaker 3: I mean I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you could say a literal fed, but I
Speaker 1: don't know if you're thinking breathing human being. I don't
Speaker 1: know what to make of this. I mean, you guys
Speaker 1: tell me in the chat. But here's Steve Baker in
Speaker 1: his own words with Kyle Sarafin and a couple other glowies.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you guys can't see becat, sure to
Speaker 1: turn down the contrast with all the glowing. But uh,
Speaker 1: let's just uh, let's let's just dive rate it.
Speaker 3: It's a little bit long, it's the longer side, guys,
Speaker 3: but it's worth it because holy shit.
Speaker 8: Was the you know, the chairman's the Communist Party and
Speaker 8: sat at the head of the poll up euro there
Speaker 8: or that's how.
Speaker 1: Are actually Before we do that, I do want to
Speaker 1: remind you for I guess I shouldn't assume everyone knows
Speaker 1: who' Steve Baker is. He's he works over at the Blaze.
Speaker 1: He was the one responsible for the j six pipe
Speaker 1: bomb story that kind of brought it back to prominence. Uh,
Speaker 1: we cover this extensively over here. He kind of beclowned
Speaker 1: himself multiple times, end up having to retract.
Speaker 3: It's a hole to do.
Speaker 1: We won't probably go into all of that, although I'm
Speaker 1: sure we'll make tons of reference to it, but just
Speaker 1: to remind you guys who this is, let's go and
Speaker 1: play it.
Speaker 8: The fack that was.
Speaker 9: I just want people to digest what you just said.
Speaker 9: You just said that put me behind the iron curtain,
Speaker 9: like you just kind of casually threw that out there,
Speaker 9: like most people don't say that might be the crowning
Speaker 9: achievement or the sort of the wildest thing that some
Speaker 9: people have done in their entire life, and that was
Speaker 9: sort of like the entry point into this weird life
Speaker 9: that you've lived.
Speaker 3: Is that fair?
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's exactly what happened, because it was this thing
Speaker 8: that I parachuted into when I was nineteen years old.
Speaker 8: I had no idea that two weeks later I would
Speaker 8: be in a recording studio in San Francisco doing the
Speaker 8: demo for what would become the theme song for the
Speaker 8: nineteen eighty summer Moscow Olympics. And I had I mean,
Speaker 8: I just literally was blindsided by this whole experience and
Speaker 8: then a year after that, after the embargo from the
Speaker 8: West was lifted because Jimmy Carter and all the other
Speaker 8: Western countries boycotted the Moscow Games in nineteen eighty and
Speaker 8: then a year later in eighty one, this band was
Speaker 8: doing an official tour in the Soviet Union. I played
Speaker 8: on Soviet television and you know, everything began from there.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And when you said subversive work, you want to dig
Speaker 9: into that a little bit and tell the lads, not everybody,
Speaker 9: Like I said, we got a newish audience and subversive
Speaker 9: work behind the Iron Curtain may may sound a little
Speaker 9: flippant for what was going on. You want to kind
Speaker 9: of describe it a little bit.
Speaker 8: Yeah, this this organization was a basically it was It
Speaker 8: was a It was a group that did work not
Speaker 8: only in behind Iron Curtain countries but other disadvantaged parts
Speaker 8: of the world China, South Africa, places like that. And
Speaker 8: there was four bands on the road at all times.
Speaker 8: Two of the bands were always touring in North America,
Speaker 8: basically raising money for the two bands that were working overseas.
Speaker 8: And then when we would then switch continents, so we
Speaker 8: were at nine months at a time, then we would
Speaker 8: jump continents alternate continents with each other. And so our
Speaker 8: tour put us in Europe and put us on the
Speaker 8: road there for several months, and then our vices were
Speaker 8: approved to go into Soviet Union. And essentially our job
Speaker 8: was at that time to our cover. It was our
Speaker 8: cover was to be a band, and we were we were
Speaker 8: real ban and we would show up on the border
Speaker 8: with our tour bus and go through all of the
Speaker 8: UH searches and you know, bend over, you know, rubber
Speaker 8: glove treatment and everything that they had to put us
Speaker 8: through to get us into. And then once we were in,
Speaker 8: we had literally hidden inside of our equipment, we had
Speaker 8: tape duplicating equipment, we had recording studio equipment for these
Speaker 8: underground dissidents. We had back then, we had printing press
Speaker 8: parts and plates for these dissonance as well. We don't
Speaker 8: need the printing press parts anymore, but that's what we
Speaker 8: were carrying over back in eighty eighty one and before
Speaker 8: and after, and so it was. It was actually a
Speaker 8: very very interesting group and we worked directly with some
Speaker 8: very powerful organizations. For instance, during the Reggae Adminspiration administration,
Speaker 8: we were working with, believe it or not, the Secretary
Speaker 8: of Interior James Watts, you know, the Secretary the Interior
Speaker 8: departs bit of Interior had black ops money as well,
Speaker 8: and that was used to fund these types of subversive operations.
Speaker 8: And that's essentially what we were doing, is we were
Speaker 8: supporting the underground dissident movement, Christian dis uh and Christian
Speaker 8: dissonance inside the Soviet Union. And then I took that
Speaker 8: another step further and eventually started going over there by
Speaker 8: myself as well and doing essentially the same thing. In
Speaker 8: my cover was as a a musician, I would I
Speaker 8: would go in. I would have my my trumpet gig
Speaker 8: bag over my shoulder, my my you know, my duffel
Speaker 8: bag with my clothes and over the other shoulder, and
Speaker 8: I would cross it all.
Speaker 3: Right, ken, Uh, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: Yeah? There you have.
Speaker 6: It's a leading so called journalist on the January sixth,
Speaker 6: fed direction is an admitted intelligence asset who was working
Speaker 6: on covert influence operations. I mean, it's straight from the
Speaker 6: horse's mouth, unless he's totally full of shit, which I
Speaker 6: when it comes to this, I actually believe him. It
Speaker 6: sounds pretty spot on to me because I've always had
Speaker 6: questions about Baker. I mean, I don't know a whole
Speaker 6: lot about him, but just a little bit of backstory
Speaker 6: that I've learned just basically observing him is that he
Speaker 6: was just a blogger. He ran something called like The
Speaker 6: Pragmatic Constitutionalist, and then he was He went into the
Speaker 6: capitol on January sixth, and he later claimed that he
Speaker 6: acted as a journalist. But if you read the criminal
Speaker 6: complaint at him, you know he's he's recording, but he's
Speaker 6: like looking out the windows, saying, you look out the window, bitches,
Speaker 6: look what's coming.
Speaker 2: Later that night, he interviews.
Speaker 6: And he says, the only thing I regret is that
Speaker 6: I didn't steal their computers, because god knows what I
Speaker 6: could have found on their computers if.
Speaker 2: I'd done that.
Speaker 6: But by the time I got into Pelosi's office, unfortunately,
Speaker 6: there was some damage done. You know, I'm not saying
Speaker 6: he should have been arrested for this, but I'm just
Speaker 6: saying he's not acting as a journalist when he went
Speaker 6: into the capitol.
Speaker 2: So after that, he gets arrested.
Speaker 6: A couple of years later, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 6: you've got like senators writing letters saying like.
Speaker 2: How dare you arrested journalists?
Speaker 6: And Glenn Beck says, Oh, this is such an outrage,
Speaker 6: such an attack on the free press, that I'm going
Speaker 6: to give this guy a full time job, and then
Speaker 6: he kind of gets boosted.
Speaker 3: As no job for Steve Horne.
Speaker 6: Though, Yeah, exactly when you look at other like Stephen
Speaker 6: Horn's like a legitimate journalist who is like on the
Speaker 6: streets during the summer of twenty twenty, you know, getting
Speaker 6: rubber bullet shot at him and stuff like that, doing
Speaker 6: real journalism, and he wasn't acting in the manner that
Speaker 6: Baker was when he entered the capitol. He really was
Speaker 6: just documenting things. But so, yeah, Baker gets this full
Speaker 6: time job at the Blaze, and now he's being presented
Speaker 6: as the authoritative truth teller. He says, you know, January
Speaker 6: sixth is the greatest scandal of all time. When on
Speaker 6: January sixth, he's on camera saying, I one hundred percent
Speaker 6: prove what happened.
Speaker 2: This is great.
Speaker 6: So it's just such a grotesque syop. It's the irony
Speaker 6: is just really really thick here.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to even like understand, like I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to like find a way to understand this last
Speaker 1: four minutes that that clip and of not being what
Speaker 1: you said, I mean, was there, I mean, did he
Speaker 1: actually did he reference a specific intelligence group or because
Speaker 1: he didn't say who, but he did say large. I
Speaker 1: mean I struggled to find a way to understand that
Speaker 1: without being like, what the what the hell?
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 6: Said the Department of Interior had a black budget?
Speaker 3: So okay, never mind, Yeah, he said.
Speaker 6: The Secretary James Watts. What's I actually looked up James Watts. Ironically,
Speaker 6: at the same time that he's sending Baker and the
Speaker 6: Soviet Union, he banned the Beach Boys from performing the
Speaker 6: Independence Day concert at the National Mall in d C.
Speaker 6: So that's you know, it's neither here nor they're just
Speaker 6: a little kind of fun fact about who was funding
Speaker 6: Baker at the times.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Department.
Speaker 6: Of Interior running covert operations on foreign countries is kind
Speaker 6: of weird. Maybe they had the black budget to do it,
Speaker 6: but it seems pretty seems pretty connected to the c
Speaker 6: what the CIA was doing to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm curious, I mean, I don't know, if
Speaker 1: you've dug it up into him, what's his Does he
Speaker 1: said anything that you know of about his religion? This
Speaker 1: might be for the chat as well, if you guys
Speaker 1: know or in the comments, I'd be curious what his
Speaker 1: religious denomination is too, because he it was a religious cover.
Speaker 1: So it's like, I don't know, that's what I was
Speaker 1: thinking at first, like maybe it was like a Mormon.
Speaker 3: Could you hear these weird you know?
Speaker 1: And I know, even growing myself growing up in the church,
Speaker 1: I remember there being like missionary like or don't know
Speaker 1: if they I remember any like actually like coming out
Speaker 1: of our church or whatever, but I remember hearing tell
Speaker 1: of like, you know, always these brave missionaries would go
Speaker 1: over to China and be like pretend to be something
Speaker 1: else or whatever. So it's like there is kind of
Speaker 1: a history of you know, us, and obviously maybe there's
Speaker 1: a positive way to spend it, you know, they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're trying to spread the Word of Christ. But then
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a I wouldn't be surprised if a
Speaker 1: lot of times intelligence agencies getting mixed too and be like, well,
Speaker 1: you love your country, don't you wouldn't it be you
Speaker 1: don't like want to do this, why don't you do that?
Speaker 1: So I'd be curious if anyone knows, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know. If you know, I'd be I'd be because
Speaker 1: it is a religious cover, so I think that's substantive
Speaker 1: at least.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know, but it would certainly make sense
Speaker 6: if it was Mormon, since he got hired.
Speaker 2: By Glenn Beck, who's you know, mega Mormon.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 2: So yeah.
Speaker 5: Though.
Speaker 6: The only other thing I wanted to mention about Baker
Speaker 6: is after January sixth, he fronted like he was gonna
Speaker 6: fight the charges. He's got all these cringe tweets like
Speaker 6: I'm ready, like pour me out on the altar, I'm
Speaker 6: the cup of liberty, like really weird shit.
Speaker 2: And then Trump wins.
Speaker 6: The twenty twenty four election, Baker's trials in a few
Speaker 6: weeks and he pleads guilty, and it's really weird because
Speaker 6: Trump had already won. So you know, the notion that
Speaker 6: he was going to prison was pretty dubious.
Speaker 2: But I think he wanted to avoid the trial because
Speaker 2: all this evidence would have been.
Speaker 6: Trotted out that he wasn't acting as a real journalist,
Speaker 6: and it just actually, I know a lot of January
Speaker 6: six ers really were upset at his kind of posturing
Speaker 6: and then caving at the last second, and again Stephen
Speaker 6: Horn didn't cave.
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, I.
Speaker 6: Can't plead guilty to something I didn't do. Not the
Speaker 6: same story with Baker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess we should probably were as before we
Speaker 1: get into the pipe bomb stor we should probably give
Speaker 1: like a quick recap of his reporting, because I mean,
Speaker 1: I know his initial reporting was what that he was
Speaker 1: kind of basically straight up saying that one the one
Speaker 1: short haired girl I can rename the Capitol Police, which
Speaker 1: I know. There was a lot of stuff floated about,
Speaker 1: you know how this especially being in a more conspiratorial realm,
Speaker 1: how things move about. I never verified a lot of
Speaker 1: different facts, and I supposedly people were saying she was
Speaker 1: like now supposedly Cia or this or that, which I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, whether that's true or not, that
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean one thing or the other. But I
Speaker 1: don't know, if you want to give a quick recap
Speaker 1: of his reporting in relation to that, and then we'll
Speaker 1: probably then from there, I think we'll probably shift over
Speaker 1: to the current as it stands. But because it does,
Speaker 1: it does seem like my takeaway from all this, this
Speaker 1: whole like norbit looking dude kind of seems like a
Speaker 1: real you know, kind of a saving grace for Baker
Speaker 1: at like kind of the right moment, Like here's this
Speaker 1: obvious patsy as Bongino is going out the door, where
Speaker 1: it's like whatever put it on this fucking idiot, and
Speaker 1: now Baker gets to, you know, recoup his reputation. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to give like.
Speaker 3: A recap of his coverage of it, and then I
Speaker 3: guess that'll kind of bring us to where we are now.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, Baker's the big bombshell story dropped in early November,
Speaker 6: and he accused, as you said, a former Capitol police
Speaker 6: officer name like Shawnnie Kirkhanoff who is now is with
Speaker 6: the CIA. She's a security guard at the campus. I
Speaker 6: think he initially said that she was working on the
Speaker 6: director's detail, when that's not true. She's just like manning
Speaker 6: the front gate. But it was an interesting story. It
Speaker 6: was largely based off of gate recognition analysis. He compared
Speaker 6: how the pipe bomber walked on surveillance footage to how
Speaker 6: Shawnie was walking on January sixth, and I guess they
Speaker 6: got some footage of her from her college soccer days.
Speaker 6: Said it was a ninety five percent match. And then
Speaker 6: there was the fact that Kyle Sarafin actually conducted surveillance
Speaker 6: on Shawnnie's neighbor who was suspected to be involved in
Speaker 6: the pipe bombing. So those two things aren't very compelling,
Speaker 6: and I think they might have been onto something, but
Speaker 6: they didn't have smoking gun evidence, they didn't have any
Speaker 6: kind of proof, and the story quickly collapsed. They got details,
Speaker 6: key details wrong, such as like Shane not being on
Speaker 6: the director's details she's only a security guard, and eventually
Speaker 6: they had to retract the entire story. I think the
Speaker 6: FBI cleared Shawnee as a suspect. They said she had
Speaker 6: video on the night of January fifth of her like
Speaker 6: playing with her dogs. So it might sound dubious, and
Speaker 6: they might have actually been onto something, But because they
Speaker 6: set such a shitty story, such shitty journalism, they set
Speaker 6: a big straw man to be knocked down. And now
Speaker 6: that's kind of been debunked. I guess we're waiting for
Speaker 6: lawsuits to fly and then the FBI or rests this
Speaker 6: new guy a couple weeks later.
Speaker 3: One thing, I guess now I have you here.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about it because this is one
Speaker 1: thing that's always kind of bugged me, and I've always
Speaker 1: meant to go dig into it.
Speaker 3: A little bit.
Speaker 1: Kyle actually came on my show forever years ago, and
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, he he did, you know, I guess
Speaker 1: do some I don't know if you say reporting or
Speaker 1: attested to the fact that he he was investigating the
Speaker 1: neighbor of the Kirkoff chick or whatever her name is,
Speaker 1: Like I can never remember it, and uh so he
Speaker 1: came on my show and it was all tied up
Speaker 1: in this like government travel card or whatever the hell
Speaker 1: or not, no, like the not a government travel card,
Speaker 1: but like something to do for the the train or whatever.
Speaker 1: I forget the specifics of it. In retrospect, he was
Speaker 1: a long time ago he said it on my show,
Speaker 1: and then it always struck out to me that it
Speaker 1: wasn't until like almost well over a year later of
Speaker 1: him saying on my show that Daily Wire picked it
Speaker 1: up and kind of then it actually was like everybody's like,
Speaker 1: holy shit, even though it actually been reported to my show.
Speaker 1: I guess they reported, but I guess report, yeah, on
Speaker 1: my show like well over a year before. But looking
Speaker 1: back at it, I'm like, you know, especially where we
Speaker 1: are now, you're like, to some degree it is I
Speaker 1: gets you know, Kyle is a primary source here, so
Speaker 1: like that it is a just that does give it
Speaker 1: like he is, it makes sense he would have been
Speaker 1: one of the people investigating.
Speaker 3: I think I believe he was totally tracks.
Speaker 1: But do we I've been always wondered, is there any
Speaker 1: corroborating info on that whatsoever that's ever been released? Like
Speaker 1: or is that totally just a trust me bro from
Speaker 1: Kyle sarafin which he is a primary source. It's to
Speaker 1: be clear, So that is like it does have some
Speaker 1: level of credibility. But if he's already kind of shown
Speaker 1: him to be a shitty source, which is kind of
Speaker 1: like with the whole Mitch snow thing, which might getto
Speaker 1: Candice later, it is kind of like, if it's hold
Speaker 1: up in a trust me bro and there isn't corroborating information,
Speaker 1: we're on quicksand yeah.
Speaker 6: His story would say is like ninety percent true and
Speaker 6: it has been confirmed. The House Republicans put out a
Speaker 6: report on January sixth, about a year ago now, that
Speaker 6: talks about they got a bunch of FBI records. The
Speaker 6: FBI talks about tracking one person who used a Metro card.
Speaker 6: The card belonged to an air Force and then they
Speaker 6: tracked it to this person who happened to be Shawnee's neighbor,
Speaker 6: which is a hell of a coincidence.
Speaker 2: Where Kyle either was lyne or just.
Speaker 6: Incorrect though, is that he always gave people the impression
Speaker 6: or he downright stated that the person that they were
Speaker 6: tracking was the pipe bomber, the pipe bomb suspect. I
Speaker 6: always was under the impression, because that's what he said.
Speaker 6: Is like the guy on surveillance footage walking around with
Speaker 6: the bombs and placing them by the DNC was the
Speaker 6: one that they tracked using the Metro card and taking
Speaker 6: the train back to Virginia, when in fact, the reality
Speaker 6: is that the person that he was conducting surveillance on
Speaker 6: was taking pictures like for some reason, he was taking
Speaker 6: pictures on the areas where the pipe bombs were eventually
Speaker 6: placed earlier on January fifth, like when it was still
Speaker 6: light outside. And yes, the FBI did find that suspicious,
Speaker 6: so they tracked him. He's the guy that used a
Speaker 6: Metro card, So it wasn't the actual pipe bomber that
Speaker 6: Kyle was conducting surveillance on.
Speaker 2: So it's still a hell of.
Speaker 6: A coincidence that he was surveilling Shawnee's neighbor. But Shawnee's
Speaker 6: neighbor wasn't the pipe bomb suspect. It was just some
Speaker 6: guy who was taking pictures and then it turned out
Speaker 6: that he was out of town. He was using the
Speaker 6: metro card of the person who actually lives next to Shawnee,
Speaker 6: and so it's like, I guess three degrees removed. It
Speaker 6: was somebody staying at Shawnie's neighbors was the person that
Speaker 6: Kyle was surveiling.
Speaker 1: All right, I guess let's get into where things sit now.
Speaker 1: They have a new guy which is somehow built up
Speaker 1: on a case, built up on what like receipts or something.
Speaker 1: But it looks like one of your guys went down there. Oops,
Speaker 1: my bad, James Rogers from I guess it seems like
Speaker 1: he's doing work for you now. But I guess he
Speaker 1: went over and reported on this. And what kind of
Speaker 1: takeaways do we have from the the most recent stuff
Speaker 1: going on with it? I know, I mean it kind
Speaker 1: of looks like a Patsy All vibes, but I haven't
Speaker 1: really dug into it.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm also extremely I'm kind of almost immediately. My bias
Speaker 1: is to distress the government. So pretty much everybody's a
Speaker 1: patsy until proven otherwise for me. So, yeah, is there
Speaker 1: is there anything to this, what's the most recent going
Speaker 1: on with this, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 6: Yeah, this one really does look like a patsy, and
Speaker 6: not just because you know, we're operating on the basis
Speaker 6: thing you're innocent, it's still proven guilty. It just like
Speaker 6: the case looks really dubious. Brian Cole is the guy's name.
Speaker 6: He was arrested and I think earlier this month, and
Speaker 6: it was really dubious because they they're basing their case
Speaker 6: off of like his phone pinging off of cell phone towers,
Speaker 6: and then they arrest him and interview him without an
Speaker 6: attorney present for over two hours and he finally confesses,
Speaker 6: and so that's like their entire cases based off that.
Speaker 6: They didn't get an indictment before they raided his house
Speaker 6: and arrested him. I thought, I guess they thought they'd
Speaker 6: find more evidence. But that comes to the hearing this week,
Speaker 6: is that Cole's lawyers wanted to have a preliminary hearing yesterday,
Speaker 6: which would have been the government has to present all
Speaker 6: its evidence and then the judge will decide whether to
Speaker 6: proceed with criminal charges or not. But the DOJ did
Speaker 6: a dirty tactic. They went to a lower court, like
Speaker 6: the local court in DC, and got an indictment from there,
Speaker 6: and then tried to present that in federal court. And
Speaker 6: now there's arguments over like, oh, whether they're going to
Speaker 6: accept that indictment, And of course the lawyers for Coal
Speaker 6: don't want that. They want to have an actual preliminary
Speaker 6: hearing where they could kind of cross examine the FB
Speaker 6: guy's evidence and then there would be a possibility that
Speaker 6: he'd be let free.
Speaker 2: So the judge hasn't actually decided on these things.
Speaker 6: But the case could collapse before it even proceeds to trial.
Speaker 6: And again, like he did confess, but the fact that
Speaker 6: they didn't secure an indictment before they arrested him shows
Speaker 6: how weak the case is, because normally they would do
Speaker 6: that and then have him in custody. But I think
Speaker 6: they were kind of take it hoping like a how Mary, like,
Speaker 6: hopefully we'll find evidence on his phone or coerced a confession,
Speaker 6: which it seems like they did. But it's looking really
Speaker 6: tenuous and to Steve Baker and The Blaze's credit, they
Speaker 6: did a story a couple of days ago where it's
Speaker 6: kind of like showing the pipe bomber's movement on the
Speaker 6: surveillance footage with what the FBI says in his complaint
Speaker 6: and the like, his movements don't really match. Like at
Speaker 6: one point, the Blaze shows that his car is seen
Speaker 6: on surveillance footage when he's supposed to be, you know,
Speaker 6: a half mile away planting a device. So it looks
Speaker 6: really bad for government.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, do you put a post here where I
Speaker 1: saw there? You're kind of pointing out that, hey, there's
Speaker 1: cameras everywhere too, So once again not looking great for
Speaker 1: the government.
Speaker 3: So it's like they should know. They probably do know,
Speaker 3: And so I don't know.
Speaker 1: I gotta be real. It looks more like some sort
Speaker 1: of burn plan here. I gotta be real, And like,
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly. I'm not saying everything's going entirely
Speaker 1: according to plan and everything's been working out well, but
Speaker 1: it looks like it looks like some sort of burn plan.
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly how that played out.
Speaker 1: Maybe this is entirely organic, but that's just the schizophrenic
Speaker 1: in me, I see this and go, oh, they probably
Speaker 1: have known this for a long time and they got
Speaker 1: to weasel their way out one way or another. All Right,
Speaker 1: I guess let's move on over to the OK bomb
Speaker 1: stuff instead of a I mean, it's not really something
Speaker 1: I'm lessly looking forward to. A lot of people realize
Speaker 1: the Richard Booth problem has kind of reached ahead again seemingly.
Speaker 1: I think you said it best here. This is Richard
Speaker 1: Booth right now.
Speaker 3: Uh, here we go. I am a federal informant because
Speaker 3: I think that's pretty funny.
Speaker 1: See all right, so all jokes aside, Yes, he is
Speaker 1: literally a federal informant now, I mean, uh, he put
Speaker 1: out a sub stack. I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 1: how deep there's such a this is such a deep
Speaker 1: hole of this and this crazy thing and that crazy
Speaker 1: thing when it comes to Richard Booth. I've covered for
Speaker 1: those who really care to get that deep into it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I know I'm kind of being
Speaker 1: a little bit, uh, acting like it is silliness, and
Speaker 1: it sort of is. But there is substantive things in here.
Speaker 1: I mean Richard did spend a I mean he was
Speaker 1: the one I did the entire Ogloma City bombing.
Speaker 3: Playlist with you included.
Speaker 1: Uh, he was a wealth of knowledge, now, I mean
Speaker 1: I did. I did end up reading a lot, like
Speaker 1: all the books and a lot of the same thing
Speaker 1: he has. So I don't really feel like I've been
Speaker 1: missed led by him or anything. But he is like
Speaker 1: there's a wealth of information people do see like you know,
Speaker 1: the you know, the evaluate the validity of sources of information.
Speaker 1: And if people haven't, aren't you know, not everyone's going
Speaker 1: to read all the books that Richard did, And so
Speaker 1: I mean it kind of it is. It is substantive,
Speaker 1: I think covering when someone has a crazy breakdown and
Speaker 1: some of the insane things are doing have gone to
Speaker 1: such a level that it's like, I don't really I
Speaker 1: mean maybe yeah, he's either at the very least, it's
Speaker 1: people should be aware of the detriment that he that
Speaker 1: he's currently being, the things he's saying. I don't think
Speaker 1: he has too much of a sway of people believe him,
Speaker 1: but I still occasionally see people who do. But I
Speaker 1: guess it's just a function of people not being aware
Speaker 1: of what's going on.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't evenally. I guess ken do is
Speaker 3: there any way you want to you want to go
Speaker 3: into this, I don't really know.
Speaker 1: I will say I am meant to say the second
Speaker 1: go go check out if you really want to, and
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this'd be like condescending if you really
Speaker 1: are like, oh shit, what is going on here?
Speaker 3: If we don't do a good job. I literally do
Speaker 3: a stream called I'm So not a Raper. I don't
Speaker 3: know when.
Speaker 1: It was probably months ago, I know, a ridiculous name.
Speaker 1: It's totally playing off the joke from step Brothers. I
Speaker 1: literally did the meme of like them either their heads
Speaker 1: are like, I'm so not a raper because throughout all
Speaker 1: the craziness, you know, when he was having his I
Speaker 1: guess break from reality or whatever, he literally accused me
Speaker 1: of divulging a rape to him at some point, which
Speaker 1: I didn't, But I mean, what can I say to
Speaker 1: that other than I'm so not a raper? Uh so ken,
Speaker 1: I don't know any thoughts about the I guess we
Speaker 1: can kind of lay out in a second the actual
Speaker 1: legitimate shenanigans that the least the recent shenanigans. But there's
Speaker 1: like well over an hour and a half for those
Speaker 1: want to connect catch all the specifics, and there was
Speaker 1: more after that too, but that was just the stuff
Speaker 1: that I felt like the time was worthwhile responding to.
Speaker 1: And I haven't really responded to any of the Shenanigans
Speaker 1: until recently, where he's kind of tooken up a whole
Speaker 1: notch where that people should at least be aware of
Speaker 1: what's going on.
Speaker 6: Sure, And actually my fallout with Richard came around the
Speaker 6: same time as yours, and it is pretty sad because
Speaker 6: I did consider an actual friend, like as much as
Speaker 6: a friend as you could be with just some guy
Speaker 6: on the internet who you've never met in real life.
Speaker 6: But yeah, my fallout started when I had interviewed Roger Charles,
Speaker 6: who was a legend investigator of Oklahoma City bombing, like
Speaker 6: kind of got a lot.
Speaker 2: Of the records that we use for our research today.
Speaker 2: I did the last.
Speaker 6: Interview with him in February twenty twenty two, and then
Speaker 6: he wound up tragically passing.
Speaker 2: Away a few weeks later.
Speaker 6: And so this was I think, like a year ago.
Speaker 6: Ahead of the anniversary, we decided to publish my full
Speaker 6: interview with Roger, like his last interview he ever gave
Speaker 6: before he passed away, and.
Speaker 2: I had my.
Speaker 6: Friend and producer the number six on Twitter. He redacted
Speaker 6: one section where Roger basically kind of talked shit about
Speaker 6: another researcher.
Speaker 2: Named Cheryl Seymour, who a big pair of politics buffs.
Speaker 6: Will recognized that name because she wrote a book on
Speaker 6: the octopus and a lot of her research was underpinning
Speaker 6: that recent Netflix documentary about the octopus scandal.
Speaker 2: So Roger kind of was talking a little shit about her.
Speaker 6: I won't go into details, it's just you know, kind
Speaker 6: of petty grievances between them.
Speaker 2: But I took that out.
Speaker 6: But at the time I trusted Richard and he had
Speaker 6: a full copy. And because Cheryl Seymour, like this is
Speaker 6: also stupid, because Seymour's friend was with Wendy Painting, he
Speaker 6: published the part where Roger's talking shit to be like, see,
Speaker 6: Roger didn't like her. And I said Richard, like, you
Speaker 6: don't have permission to do that. This is really fucked up.
Speaker 6: And he pointed to something where I accidentally outed him
Speaker 6: as basically, when he was working on the HBO documentary,
Speaker 6: he gave me some info about how you were questioning
Speaker 6: an FBI agent named Danny Colson who was reportedly in
Speaker 6: Oklahoma City the night before the attack, and I used
Speaker 6: that info and I sent some really aggressive texts to Danny,
Speaker 6: pretty much accusing him and saying I'm running a story
Speaker 6: for the Epic Times. And Danny eventually he has his
Speaker 6: lawyers right to the Epic Times, saying I'm threatening him
Speaker 6: with these baseless allegations, and I got fired from that
Speaker 6: job as a result. But he also complained to HBO
Speaker 6: about Richard, and so even though I didn't say I
Speaker 6: got the information from Richard, Danny figured it out. And
Speaker 6: at the time I apologized to Richard and it was
Speaker 6: supposedly water under the bridge. But then three years later,
Speaker 6: when I complained about him publishing purposely over my objections
Speaker 6: something that Roger said, he throws that back in my face,
Speaker 6: and it's like, you know, we actually put that aside,
Speaker 6: and we were still cool for another couple of months.
Speaker 6: But then when he started talking shit about Weddy, like
Speaker 6: saying really nasty things about her. I think you said, Richard,
Speaker 6: you should take this down, and I did too, and
Speaker 6: that's when we finally had a real falling out and
Speaker 6: he publicly threatened to kick my hass on Twitter. He
Speaker 6: wanted to fight me and all this and then again
Speaker 6: he apologized and we're cool for maybe another month. But
Speaker 6: then the really breaking point came when on the anniversary
Speaker 6: of Kenneth Trendado's death, he deleted the website and re
Speaker 6: routed it to the FBI.
Speaker 2: And after that, I told Richard.
Speaker 6: You know you're dead to me, I'll never speak to
Speaker 6: you again, and we never have, so I think that
Speaker 6: basically hit his argument. And after that he threatened to
Speaker 6: leak more information and try to get me in trouble
Speaker 6: with the Epic Times over the whole Danny Colson thing
Speaker 6: and all this other stuff that he says would have
Speaker 6: been covered by my non disclosure agreement, even though it
Speaker 6: turns out that that's not the case. So that was
Speaker 6: like my little backstory with Richard.
Speaker 2: But the reason we're talking about this now isn't just.
Speaker 6: Over petty aggrievances with another Okay Sea researcher. There's a
Speaker 6: real public interest here because he is recently saying that
Speaker 6: he's going to inform on Jesse Trenadu to the Justice Department.
Speaker 6: Essentially we can get into that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess we can just go ahead and read
Speaker 1: his post. Actually, the reason why not Radicks he or
Speaker 1: posted it she said, a more disturbing behave from Richard
Speaker 1: Booth suffering from spiritual sickness. I mean perhaps, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess. I just hope he stops. But
Speaker 1: here he is a disparring Jesse Trendo. He says, as
Speaker 1: part of Jesse Trendy's legal battle, he shared sealed information
Speaker 1: with Wendy Painting, information that was sealed by a judge,
Speaker 1: which she then put into word and distributed to people
Speaker 1: on the internet. I'm in contact with Justine, the special
Speaker 1: mad Master in the investigation to let him know about this.
Speaker 1: I have also sent a courtesy email to the FBI's
Speaker 1: chief counsel let them know of Jesse and Wendy's felonies
Speaker 1: relative to this. I've let both know I will do
Speaker 1: anything required of me to fuck Jesse trend and explain
Speaker 1: that as a vulnerable adult with a disability, mister trend
Speaker 1: to abuse me, which I find ridiculous. He did refer
Speaker 1: to him having autism many times as always a joke.
Speaker 1: He never acted like it was like some ooboo who
Speaker 1: poors me. But anyways, because mister Trendy abused me, and
Speaker 1: because he has not apologized, I harbor deep resentment and
Speaker 1: thus will do anything within my power to hurt him.
Speaker 1: I'm going to ensure this case is thrown out, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to write to the judge in the case today.
Speaker 1: I'm also going to write to the Utah Bar Association
Speaker 1: to seek to have him disbarred. Which I mean, all
Speaker 1: I'm saying here is FED confirmed, Like, Okay, there's just
Speaker 1: a question of when did he become a FED. So
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the most colloquial aversions of FED disinformant.
Speaker 1: But that's good enough for me. I mean, maybe you
Speaker 1: could give me an out, like of some specific example
Speaker 1: someone is contacting the FEDS to give them information and
Speaker 1: be like, okay, I won't consider you a FED here,
Speaker 1: but this is the most classic example of you are
Speaker 1: a fucking FED. Like this is like maybe not literally
Speaker 1: you're working for the agency, but you were informing on
Speaker 1: them for not real Like even if we are to
Speaker 1: assume that he's committed felonies, they're made up government laws.
Speaker 1: These aren't actual natural law any sort of. No one's
Speaker 1: being hurt. This is just in the endeavor of trying
Speaker 1: to get justice. They are perhaps breaking some of the
Speaker 1: Garment's rules, which I think we'll get into that. I
Speaker 1: don't even think that's actually true, but either way, this
Speaker 1: is the most classic example of you are a fucking FED.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, what are you? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3: Can uh? Because yeah, I mean this is literally him
Speaker 3: telling everyone I'm informing to the FED, to the FEDS. Like,
Speaker 3: I don't know what else to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where to begin?
Speaker 6: Well, I think we should probably add that he threatened
Speaker 6: to kill Wendy in a few months ago.
Speaker 3: Yes, I forgid about it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we never I never covered that
Speaker 1: because it was up in the air and we didn't
Speaker 1: really want to draw attention to it because it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's literally he's committing an open and open crime,
Speaker 1: like and it's like we're kind of like, if anything,
Speaker 1: hoping that because he's literally putting out a beacon to
Speaker 1: the FEDS, and I'm like, I'm hoping that the FEDS
Speaker 1: don't reach out to him to compromise. So we were
Speaker 1: trying not to make a big deal out of it,
Speaker 1: but here we are, Sorry, go yeah, so.
Speaker 6: And so, yeah, I think it's legitimate to ask whether
Speaker 6: he flipped, whether they paid him a visit at the time,
Speaker 6: and flipped him or if he was a fed even earlier.
Speaker 6: But I guess this particular crash out stems from It's
Speaker 6: actually kind of humorous, and I got permission from Jesse
Speaker 6: to talk about this. Just before I jumped on the show.
Speaker 6: He reached out to Jesse under an anonymous email sent
Speaker 6: The email was like triple Helix at gmail dot com
Speaker 6: or something like that, and he claimed to be a
Speaker 6: hacker in the Czech Republic. And he says, dear mister Trenado,
Speaker 6: this is just a couple of days ago. I followed
Speaker 6: your important work for the past twenty five year with
Speaker 6: great interest and respect. Recently I came across your series
Speaker 6: featuring you on Eric Hunley's program stocks.
Speaker 2: Oh, he pretty much fed jackets Eric Hunley. He says.
Speaker 2: Eric Hunley has conducted.
Speaker 6: Interviews with approximately seven different FBI agents on his show.
Speaker 6: He appears to maintain very cordial relations with the FBI.
Speaker 6: I would kindly suggest that you give this some careful consideration.
Speaker 6: You could verify this by visiting his YouTube channel. And
Speaker 6: then he talks about Margaret Roberts, who is an author
Speaker 6: who came out with the book about trying to do
Speaker 6: his story earlier.
Speaker 2: This year.
Speaker 6: She says, I also observed that Margaret Roberts, the author
Speaker 6: of the book, seems to have close ties to several
Speaker 6: FBI agents. He goes into that a little and I'm
Speaker 6: trying to get the part where he touts Richard Booth.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he says, it's a real quick That is,
Speaker 3: by the way, he said in bajillion alts, that's the
Speaker 3: best way to discover a Richard Booth. Booth all, you'll
Speaker 3: be the one guy sucking off Richard Booth so hard.
Speaker 2: But he says.
Speaker 6: My understanding is that Richard Booth was involved in fact
Speaker 6: checking Blowback, and I think he probably did a pretty
Speaker 6: good job, because the book is actually good. But when
Speaker 6: you listen to her being interviewed, you can tell she
Speaker 6: doesn't even know the material that is in the book interview.
Speaker 6: Her interviews are, to put it bluntly, terrible. Now, I
Speaker 6: imagine that none of these things escape Richard Booth's attention
Speaker 6: if I have seen them, and most assuredly, they have
Speaker 6: not escaped the attention of other people who make it
Speaker 6: their business to study this subject. With all due respects, sir,
Speaker 6: I fear that you may be the victim here because
Speaker 6: these people are not the friends that you think they
Speaker 6: are if you examine how closely they can sort with
Speaker 6: the FBI. I am located in the Czech Republic, and
Speaker 6: I prefer not to use my real name, so you
Speaker 6: may call me Triple Helix simply simply three H has
Speaker 6: no other hacker friends call me. I am a computer
Speaker 6: hacker by trade. Let's see, does he mentioned what I?
Speaker 2: So he finishes up.
Speaker 6: But what I did notice is in your interviews with
Speaker 6: Eric Hunley, you are not afraid to say quite clearly.
Speaker 2: That John do two was a fed. However, Margaret Roberts
Speaker 2: is terrified and won't even go into that.
Speaker 6: Then she talked, he talks more shit about Margaret Roberts.
Speaker 6: So he sends this and Jesse forarded to me at
Speaker 6: the time, and we're like, bah, that's obviously fucking Richard.
Speaker 6: And so Jesse responds a day later saying, thank you very.
Speaker 2: Much for this email.
Speaker 6: I was truly not aware of most of the information
Speaker 6: you sent me. You have certainly give me much to consider. Meanwhile,
Speaker 6: ask for Dick Booth. I have no respect for the man,
Speaker 6: and I am sure that if you was still alive,
Speaker 6: my dear friend Roger Charles, who Dick claims was his
Speaker 6: mentor would feel the same way about him. So this
Speaker 6: is a little bit of speculation, but I'm sure that's
Speaker 6: what set Richard spirally, and I think in his post
Speaker 6: he even says that I'm doing this because I recently
Speaker 6: somebody forwarded me an email showing that Jesse is still
Speaker 6: talking shit about me. But no, this is the triple
Speaker 6: triple helix is the crust.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, he's the one doing shit like that, Like I
Speaker 1: can go ahead and tell you I know him and
Speaker 1: particularly another person is doing that about me, which like whatever,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not making a think of it. I don't
Speaker 1: fucking care. But yeah, this is the sort of shit
Speaker 1: he does. I mean there's something else in there. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: this is public, so I don't really know you didn't
Speaker 1: mention it he did. I guess part of what Richard's
Speaker 1: big issue is that he told him to kill himself,
Speaker 1: which like I'm gonna go ahead and go with yeah,
Speaker 1: fuck you, Like I don't know, Like, for one, I
Speaker 1: think it was after the whole on his brother's birthday
Speaker 1: or whatever the site thing. I believe that was right
Speaker 1: at that time when he said it.
Speaker 6: So actually, I'm glad you brought that up because that's
Speaker 6: a key point that I wanted to mention that Richard's
Speaker 6: justification for deleting the Kenneth trying to do website on
Speaker 6: Kenneth's birthday the thirty or not his birthday, the thirtieth
Speaker 6: anniversary of his death, is that, oh, Jesse trying to
Speaker 6: do told.
Speaker 3: Me to and I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 2: You know, if you told me to do something, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do it.
Speaker 6: But in fact, Jesse was saying delete the website and
Speaker 6: then kill yourself. So he's not very good at following instructions.
Speaker 6: He did the first thing, but he didn't follow through with.
Speaker 3: We're still waiting, Richard.
Speaker 2: Part of the instructions.
Speaker 6: And so obviously Jesse was like being a little facetious,
Speaker 6: like if you delete the website, you should just kill yourself,
Speaker 6: and then Richard you, oh, well you're He takes it
Speaker 6: literally for the former but not the latter. So yeah,
Speaker 6: fuck you, Richard. I'm sure you're gonna clap back against
Speaker 6: both me and Jose on your whatever irrelevant little sub
Speaker 6: stack do your worse.
Speaker 3: By the way, I will go ahead. He was threatening
Speaker 3: you with fighting.
Speaker 1: He never said to me, I will tell him if
Speaker 1: he does want to come somewhere nearby, I will gladly meet.
Speaker 3: Up and beat the fuck out of you. I don't
Speaker 3: give a shit. But I'm not fucking flying to wherever
Speaker 3: the fuck you are to go fight because I'm an
Speaker 3: adult man with mortgage debay. But if you want to
Speaker 3: get like a three mile radius, I'll come out, take
Speaker 3: a drive down road and beat the fuck.
Speaker 2: Out of you. Do something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll do it. It'd be fun. I don't give
Speaker 3: a shit, all.
Speaker 6: Right, I was actually considering I'm like buying him playing
Speaker 6: tickets because like I don't want to show up to
Speaker 6: him and then he have like a gun. But if
Speaker 6: he were to fly to my area, I'll have.
Speaker 2: An uber pick him up from the airport.
Speaker 6: We'll go to an MMA gym, and yeah, I would
Speaker 6: be happy to do that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, let's follow up on that, Richard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd be able to pay for the privilege.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, like, obviously I'm not gonna put myself
Speaker 1: out enough to like go you know, across the nation,
Speaker 1: but like, yeah, I might like chip in thirty forty
Speaker 1: bucks for a cab or whatever.
Speaker 6: I'll push his shit so far and then not even
Speaker 6: he would like it, and I'd say it a lot
Speaker 6: because we know Richard's little kinks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well feds might too. But let's check in. Let's
Speaker 1: see Wendy respond to this. So I figured we should
Speaker 1: at least read her response she put on Twitter, because
Speaker 1: I think she denies the because he's seemingly playing hard
Speaker 1: and fast with the truth, which I mean, you never
Speaker 1: know if he's just being stupid and doesn't actually know,
Speaker 1: or if like he's intentionally misrepresenting things, or maybe I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Here's Wendy says, crazy that my notes
Speaker 1: were sourced from not sealed pat con emails and other
Speaker 1: documents and informal conversations not covered under the seal, which
Speaker 1: I was explicitly told by Roger that I could discuss
Speaker 1: in the research context but not publish true to form.
Speaker 1: He actually, he's actually the one out there distributing and
Speaker 1: publishing what he claims is prohibited material, just like he
Speaker 1: did for days with actually restricted court testimony.
Speaker 3: Well, also crazy that I don't.
Speaker 1: Have or that I don't, nor have I ever been
Speaker 1: in the habits tributing my notes widely or publicly, or
Speaker 1: for any reason other than in a research context. They
Speaker 1: were shared with him and only him in a research context,
Speaker 1: in good faith months after they were written. More concerning
Speaker 1: than stupid notes, obviously, are these threats to destroy a
Speaker 1: man who has only ever worked tirelessly to learn that
Speaker 1: is about his brother's murder, whether or not the force
Speaker 1: of nature finds it legit or not. So that was
Speaker 1: her response, So she can kind of be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's retarded. So I mean, I don't know, take that
Speaker 1: what you want, I guess, but yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: he's actually doing I don't know if there's anything else
Speaker 1: meaningful in all this, you know, Richard Booth, nonsense that
Speaker 1: I can think of.
Speaker 3: Oh he did it.
Speaker 1: Oh, now there's another thing he did supposedly posted. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you have any update on that. Is
Speaker 1: there anything new? He supposedly posted the login info for
Speaker 1: the can threatened to do side I think right, which
Speaker 1: basically all already nuked at once. So this kind of
Speaker 1: is becoming a bit of a tired game and just
Speaker 1: feels like elder abuse a little bit.
Speaker 6: So he also said that he's, uh, he got a
Speaker 6: visit from an FBI agent a McCann. I guess that
Speaker 6: was in response to an article that he said, like
Speaker 6: audios fellas, and I guess the FBI is worried that
Speaker 6: he's gonna, you know, followed Jesse to trying to do
Speaker 6: his final instructions for him, which never.
Speaker 5: Mind, all right.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anything else really with Richard.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like it's worth mentioning this is
Speaker 1: going on. I guess, let's say in they if you
Speaker 1: think of anything else worth responding to.
Speaker 3: I don't really know. I think we kind of handled it.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's out here threatening to he's literally working
Speaker 1: with the FEDS, threatening to go after Jesse Trent. He's
Speaker 1: not even threatening, he is working with the FEDS.
Speaker 6: So yeah, yeah, Well, since we're I guess we're on
Speaker 6: the subject. And I'm not going to talk about this again,
Speaker 6: but I'll get it off my chest now that he
Speaker 6: is saying that Eric Hunley's YouTube series has published a
Speaker 6: bunch of misinformation, and then he does mention me and says,
Speaker 6: you know, Ken's not lying, but he.
Speaker 2: Quote confuses everything.
Speaker 6: Well, Richard, you've been studying this case literally almost ten
Speaker 6: years long. To me, you've been studying it, says it happened.
Speaker 6: It's the only case you study it I'm a reporter.
Speaker 2: I've got like.
Speaker 6: Ten different projects going on. So if I confuse a
Speaker 6: couple of dates or something, yeah, that's gonna happen. And
Speaker 6: I've just mentioned that he wrote an article about the
Speaker 6: January sixth pipe bobs.
Speaker 2: That's just the whole premise is incorrect.
Speaker 6: He says, Oh, like the pipe bob the timers were
Speaker 6: set at zero, and so this raises a whole number
Speaker 6: of questions. But if you actually knew anything about that case, Richard,
Speaker 6: you would know that the one found by the RNC
Speaker 6: had twenty minutes left on the time or not zero.
Speaker 6: So the whole premise of your article is incorrect. There,
Speaker 6: you're not as smart as you think.
Speaker 1: Well, I will apologize for gassing him up so hard,
Speaker 1: because that is like the come the always the go
Speaker 1: to is like, I don't think you realize how good
Speaker 1: I am on podcasts like okay, cool man, which I mean,
Speaker 1: I get it if you were a podcaster, but like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's whatever.
Speaker 3: It is also ridiculous.
Speaker 1: A lot of this comes back to like, oh, this
Speaker 1: person's not even good at podcasts.
Speaker 3: They don't even do podcasts. They don't they don't even know.
Speaker 1: The information they're like, yeah, you're literally like your only
Speaker 1: thing has been that and to be And I've actually
Speaker 1: tried to get him on larger platform podcasts and he would,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason flaked out like you. For example, when
Speaker 1: I went on Dave Smith, he was supposed to come
Speaker 1: with me, like he was supposed to come on, and
Speaker 1: he didn't. So I mean, don't get me wrong, he
Speaker 1: did good. I mean, my series is great, but I
Speaker 1: just I don't know this, this is ridiculous.
Speaker 3: It is just weird. I don't know. Yes, he does
Speaker 3: have good command of the information.
Speaker 1: But like also to your point, like for example, I'm
Speaker 1: a podcast or I cover a million other topics, so
Speaker 1: it's like I can only get so good at one.
Speaker 1: Like I can only read so many oklaham City bombing
Speaker 1: books or go I need to read some other things
Speaker 1: so I can actually have a well rounded bit of information.
Speaker 1: So I mean, that's kind of like my go to thing,
Speaker 1: but there's a million other things as well. All right,
Speaker 1: let's just shift gears from from Richard, but it's kind
Speaker 1: of still stay in Oklahoma City bombing territory. I kind
Speaker 1: of want to get some fall up from you. This
Speaker 1: is a this eyes of the Epstein stuff. One of
Speaker 1: your thoughts. I dug into this recently. I've been a
Speaker 1: little bit disappointed, I guess, although I don't know should
Speaker 1: I really even be. It kind of seems expected with
Speaker 1: this Epstein drops. A lot of people are being retarded
Speaker 1: with some of this shit. One of them was this
Speaker 1: specific one from this Dan Farree guy who apparently in
Speaker 1: this file, you know, he claim there's claims about Trump
Speaker 1: and Epstein raping a kid, like essentially suiciding someone, which
Speaker 1: someone gave me shit about that I really got into
Speaker 1: my skin. They're like, why'd you say suiciding you homo?
Speaker 1: And they're like, why don't you say murder? Like that's
Speaker 1: literally more context like the anyways, like I get it,
Speaker 1: You're like like at whatever. And then also the John
Speaker 1: Doe two claim, which conveniently gets left out in most
Speaker 1: accounts of it because but to be fair, it is
Speaker 1: the way this document's laid out, It is kind of
Speaker 1: like the second half kind of it's kind of like
Speaker 1: it almost feels it's almost like a side thing too,
Speaker 1: because so like if you are someone covering this and
Speaker 1: trying to be like, oh my god, Epstein this or that,
Speaker 1: you'd be like what do I give a shit about
Speaker 1: this John Doe two claim, although if you're a smart person,
Speaker 1: you could be like, why the fuck is this dude
Speaker 1: also making jod.
Speaker 3: Do doo claims?
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, But uh, I know, any thoughts this. I
Speaker 1: dug into it a little bit. I went over to
Speaker 1: his YouTube. I don't know if you've done any digging around.
Speaker 1: I tried to contact him. It looks like he's been
Speaker 1: like hiding comments.
Speaker 3: He's been unlisting things, you know, unlisting videos, relistening. Looks
Speaker 3: like some shenanigans going on and right now and then
Speaker 3: I poke over there to see what's going on, same thing,
Speaker 3: I'll see like a negative response and it's gone like
Speaker 3: so I don't know. I mean, I dug through his
Speaker 3: videos and I did. I mean, who knows. You never know.
Speaker 3: Maybe this guy could be telling the truth.
Speaker 1: But I got kind of schizo boomer like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on here? Have you talken to this
Speaker 1: an anything more? And I guess kind of may general
Speaker 1: thoughts and I like, am I being too skeptical here?
Speaker 3: My being an asshole?
Speaker 1: Like I kind of it's like I don't know if
Speaker 1: I want to believe, but it is like there is
Speaker 1: there was a woman, a nineteen year old girl that
Speaker 1: did get there was reported she got fucking shot in
Speaker 1: the face.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, thoughts.
Speaker 6: I am even more skeptical than you. I think it's
Speaker 6: totally a crazy person. I mean, he called the FBI
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty and just gave this information and they
Speaker 6: wrote it down in a report.
Speaker 2: And if you compare.
Speaker 6: What he tells the FBI to some of his videos,
Speaker 6: there's a lot of contradictions. I mean, I think so again,
Speaker 6: I didn't do a story on this. My member is
Speaker 6: a little hazy, but I believe he says that he's
Speaker 6: driving a limo and Trump's in the back talking to somebody.
Speaker 6: He's saying, Jeffrey laughing about molesting a girl. And then
Speaker 6: this is like in ninety six, and then he eventually
Speaker 6: talks to somebody and realizes that the person Trump was
Speaker 6: talking about it was that person's daughter and she got
Speaker 6: raped by Trump and Epstein apparently. And then that's when
Speaker 6: a couple of years later, maybe the suicide happens. And
Speaker 6: then he tells the FBI to this.
Speaker 2: But if you actually watched.
Speaker 3: Them, oh yeah, let me tell you about John Doe two.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, and then yeah, the thing that makes it
Speaker 6: really incredible is that he says that, uh was a
Speaker 6: he was at a restaurant with Hillary Clinton and Hillary
Speaker 6: Clinton's security guard. Uh he he got kicked out by Hillary,
Speaker 6: and then Hillary fights fired the security guard, and that
Speaker 6: security guard was John Doe two and did the bombing
Speaker 6: like in revenge of that whole incident, which is just
Speaker 6: absurd on the face of it.
Speaker 1: So John Nichols, John Nichols, Yeah, that's yeah, which there
Speaker 1: is no if you're thinking your immediate thoughts, oh, that
Speaker 1: must be one of Nichols brothers, there is no John Nichols.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It also there's a I guess in a parapolitical lore,
Speaker 1: there is a John Nichols and the whole Cabazon thing.
Speaker 3: But I looked into him. He would have been like seventy,
Speaker 3: like over seventy the time, So it doesn't really fit.
Speaker 6: But go on, if you want to steal man his case,
Speaker 6: you could say, oh, maybe his story about Epstein was
Speaker 6: totally true, and then the FBI tacked on this John
Speaker 6: No two stuff to make him seem crazy, and so
Speaker 6: that would be to give him total benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 6: But when you watch his videos. His story changes from
Speaker 6: what's in the FBI report. He talks about already knowing
Speaker 6: that this girl had been raped, and he's driving with
Speaker 6: Trump in the back and Trump's talking about it, and
Speaker 6: he says he pulls over and he like brandishes his
Speaker 6: gun and thinks about killing Trump right then and there,
Speaker 6: but he has some epiphany from God and decides not
Speaker 6: to do it.
Speaker 2: And so that's totally different from.
Speaker 6: The story in the FBI where he like he figures
Speaker 6: it out years later. The FBI reports actually much more plausible.
Speaker 6: But yeah, this just seems like total just total slop.
Speaker 6: It's just it's really crazy that it's kind of huge.
Speaker 6: If you like look on liberal Reddit, like a lot
Speaker 6: of the turbolibs are taking this.
Speaker 2: This is like there smoking gun. Everybody's talking about this, and.
Speaker 6: It's just it shows you how the the Libs are
Speaker 6: just as you know, retarded, as like the QAnon people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to be fair, I think Trump's probably a pedophile,
Speaker 1: so like, uh yeah, but this is it. You gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta question everything if it's if it's confirming your
Speaker 1: bias and it sounds retarded, like maybe looking do if
Speaker 1: it's retarded, uh uh or I mean, even if it's
Speaker 1: not retarded, should probably look into it. But this one's
Speaker 1: kind of a very low hanging fruit. This, I think
Speaker 1: this might be retarded. So uh, the fact people are
Speaker 1: getting hoodwinked by it, it's a little bit okay whatever,
Speaker 1: but uh, hey, we've chimed in. I know maybe Richard
Speaker 1: will say something otherwise, and you guys can take that
Speaker 1: to the bank.
Speaker 3: Uh, but let's get into Uh.
Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna report on some fed slop now,
Speaker 1: which I guess that's a new thing. If you say
Speaker 1: nary a negative word about Candice, I guess you support
Speaker 1: the FED slop. I think the official narrative. I think
Speaker 1: you can flex and ping thirty six is off your neck,
Speaker 1: no problem, uh, because I don't completely buy into Egyptian
Speaker 1: planes and spooky military men telling you things and we
Speaker 1: should totally trust them.
Speaker 3: Bro uh, which I don't know what.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll touch a little bit on Candace. But I
Speaker 1: do gotta give you credit for I know you we
Speaker 1: talked before the show. You said you've completely checked out
Speaker 1: of the Candas stuff. I poke in occasionally because it's
Speaker 1: kind of in my purview with things and is it's
Speaker 1: just gone Uh, it's gone beyond crazy town. Uh So
Speaker 1: it's and it's kind of it's unsettling seeing that people
Speaker 1: still on the train. You're like, it's it's retarded. Literally,
Speaker 1: the latest in the in the things is literally a
Speaker 1: military man gave her a trust me bro. Everyone pointed
Speaker 1: out this crazy history of like domestic abuse and lying
Speaker 1: and habit this and that, and You're like, but but
Speaker 1: were you able to prove his story wrong? You're like,
Speaker 1: but he's the only he's that's all holds up on
Speaker 1: his credibility. Anyways, Uh, I guess you've been covering the
Speaker 1: latest in the in the Robinson stuff, the Kirk killer.
Speaker 1: What's the latest ness with the lawyers and such, what
Speaker 1: kind of what how are things shaping up on the
Speaker 1: legal front?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, real quick on Candace, I mean I checked out
Speaker 6: after she totally cocked to eric A Kirk. They had
Speaker 6: their in person meeting, and then she went on her
Speaker 6: show and kind of said, oh, maybe Tyler Robinson really.
Speaker 2: Did do it. It was a good meeting.
Speaker 6: She like kind of really toned down, and then her
Speaker 6: audience started to turn her against her. And so I'm
Speaker 6: guessing without having watched any of the Mitch snow stuff.
Speaker 2: That that's where that comes from.
Speaker 6: That she's bringing Mitch Snow on to try to regain
Speaker 6: and recapture what she had with her, you.
Speaker 2: Know, stupid drift. So yeah, that's my two cents on that.
Speaker 6: But we do have some movement on the actual case
Speaker 6: against Tyler Robinson, the accused gunman. The the unsealed there
Speaker 6: had been like a secret hearing about whether he should
Speaker 6: be allowed to wear street clothes and be unshackled during
Speaker 6: his court proceeding. I guess the government has security concerns
Speaker 6: that they expressed there and there was a big argument there,
Speaker 6: but the transcript was just un which is a win
Speaker 6: for transparency. However, we also have issues where both parties still.
Speaker 2: Want to ban.
Speaker 6: Cameras and streaming and the actual proceedings, which would just
Speaker 6: be a huge boon for Canvas and all, you know,
Speaker 6: the idiots. So hopefully they don't do that. But we've
Speaker 6: got a couple court hearings coming up in January and
Speaker 6: a lot of the big things will be decided.
Speaker 2: Then.
Speaker 6: They haven't even arraigned him, by the way yet.
Speaker 1: One thing I thought was interesting in your reporting, you
Speaker 1: showed that apparently they've his own attorneys confirmed the government story.
Speaker 1: So I mean that doesn't obviously to be very clear
Speaker 1: for the people who are like, oh, you're a pushing
Speaker 1: fed slop or whatever. It's like I've studied enough crazy
Speaker 1: deep events where I mean, it's not at all unheard
Speaker 1: or the defense team to be infiltrated or or even
Speaker 1: so far as like it's all just some sort of
Speaker 1: you know, show for the people.
Speaker 3: So this doesn't necessarily.
Speaker 1: Mean anything, but it means but it is, you know,
Speaker 1: it's more to the point of like, Okay, I still
Speaker 1: would like to see, you know, the tape that magically
Speaker 1: went missing, but I guess this is currently the the
Speaker 1: their defense, like his own legal that's the legal defense,
Speaker 1: not the legal defense. Obviously that's not how they're defending it,
Speaker 1: but that is there. That is their stance. So this
Speaker 1: is what occurred. So I don't know if you have
Speaker 1: any thoughts on that. I mean, I know there's a
Speaker 1: missing tape. I think we had you on forever ago
Speaker 1: to cover that. There's that tape that went missing or
Speaker 1: they said they no longer have or whatever. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: so they're saying that, I don't know if you have
Speaker 1: any thoughts on that, particularly.
Speaker 6: Well, that's the biggest piece of evidence that makes me
Speaker 6: think that the kid actually did do it is the
Speaker 6: fact that his parents turned him in after he like
Speaker 6: pretty much confessed. According to I think the arrest affid
Speaker 6: David and they drove him to the sheriff's office, and yeah,
Speaker 6: of course, I think some local reporters tried to foil
Speaker 6: a footage of him being marched into jail, and they
Speaker 6: said they don't have it anymore, or like, pretty much
Speaker 6: they said, we don't have to give it to you
Speaker 6: because you didn't request it within like a month or whatever,
Speaker 6: you know, the foil.
Speaker 2: Law provides for.
Speaker 6: And Candace has also raised questions about this pretty much.
Speaker 6: I think her story was that, oh, the reason the
Speaker 6: parents turned the kid in is because they were threatened, like, hey,
Speaker 6: we're gonna raid your house with you know, a swat
Speaker 6: team and bring him in anyways, or we.
Speaker 2: Could do this the peaceful way.
Speaker 6: And I don't even know where she got that from,
Speaker 6: but she also said there's contradictions where Tyler threatened to
Speaker 6: kill himself if they turned him in, but that's something
Speaker 6: that was like just total bullshit. So that's just another
Speaker 6: example of Candace just kind of throwing anything against the
Speaker 6: wall that she can. But in any event, at the
Speaker 6: secret of this transcript from the secret hearing confirms that
Speaker 6: the lawyers did say that same story that he turned
Speaker 6: himself in. And again, the reason I think this is
Speaker 6: credible is because Tyler Robinson was at that here and
Speaker 6: he's sitting right next to his attorneys while they say that.
Speaker 2: To the judge.
Speaker 6: So it seems pretty compelling to me that this is
Speaker 6: actually what happened.
Speaker 1: All right, let's uh, here's good. Let's get a little
Speaker 1: bit weird. This is something you shared. You didn't report
Speaker 1: this necessarily, and I guess you quote or you tweeted it,
Speaker 1: but I just kind of wanted to get your pick
Speaker 1: your brand, because this is something I've had saved my
Speaker 1: little book mark Fulder for the show for a while now,
Speaker 1: and just kind of I don't even know what to
Speaker 1: think about it, because I know it's meaningful, but I
Speaker 1: just keep like mulling it over and I just don't
Speaker 1: even really know what to think. But apparently Daily Mail
Speaker 1: reported this is the headline Trump's secret succession planned. But
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk in the Oval office and groom a shock
Speaker 1: new VP who was very close to home. And so
Speaker 1: you said here that Daily may Male's reporting that Charlie
Speaker 1: Kirk was supposed to be jd Vance's vice president, which
Speaker 1: I've had much to say about jd Vance as of
Speaker 1: late and the teal of verse as it is, and
Speaker 1: clearly that's the selected that's the chosen one. But apparently
Speaker 1: I guess that you know, Daily Email was reporting that
Speaker 1: Kirk was supposed to be a VP, and then following
Speaker 1: up after that there was going to be you know,
Speaker 1: I guess the next the following four years or whatever
Speaker 1: that or whenever it becomes Kirk's time to take the
Speaker 1: reins that Donald Trump Junior would be the VP, essentially
Speaker 1: trying to create like a you know, a dynasty of sorts.
Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts? I mean, is this what
Speaker 1: kind of credence do you give this? I mean, what
Speaker 1: do you think that means? Because it's one of these things.
Speaker 1: I just don't really know what to what to think
Speaker 1: of it. I don't know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, the Daily Mail source was a turning
Speaker 6: point us a board member, so I would almost take
Speaker 6: it as a grain assault.
Speaker 2: Although you did, you have heard a lot.
Speaker 6: Of rumblings that Charlie Kirk would have eventually have run
Speaker 6: for president.
Speaker 2: He was being groomed to do that, and I think
Speaker 2: that's probably true.
Speaker 6: And I think the more interesting thing is learning more
Speaker 6: about Charlie Kirk, because I never really studied him much
Speaker 6: while he was alive.
Speaker 2: Is that apparently he actually.
Speaker 6: Was a big promoter of Vance and maybe even introduced
Speaker 6: him to Trump like at first.
Speaker 2: So I do find that interesting. And yeah, I think
Speaker 2: it could have.
Speaker 6: Been true that maybe he would have been Vance's VP
Speaker 6: or down the line he would have started some campaign.
Speaker 6: I mean, he's a great debater, he's tall, you know,
Speaker 6: he's got like the cookie Cutter family and everything, So
Speaker 6: it's very plausible.
Speaker 2: What are the implications of this for you know, his killing?
Speaker 6: I you know, I don't think it really has much
Speaker 6: to do with that, but it's yeah, I guess it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's one of those ones where you're like,
Speaker 1: I don't even know what this means, but like, okay,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe I'm trying to you know, I guess
Speaker 1: because I'm obviously incorporating the death. I mean, could it
Speaker 1: obviously could just be a random, completely not tied end thing.
Speaker 1: But it does kind of make you scratch your head
Speaker 1: and go huh. But either way, I guess at least
Speaker 1: a little bit interesting look behind the curtain saying a
Speaker 1: little bit weird to let you go after a couple
Speaker 1: more of these. But we were making fun of Candice
Speaker 1: becoming new lol.
Speaker 3: Cow.
Speaker 1: Here is I just want to show you because I
Speaker 1: talked about this last night. This is an example. Here's
Speaker 1: Nick flint As absolutely ratioing the shit have him. I know,
Speaker 1: obviously this isn't you know, a substantive example of like
Speaker 1: if someone's destroyed or whatever. But it does show, I
Speaker 1: think somewhat, especially when it's to this ridiculous of a degree.
Speaker 1: It shows where the people's energy is at, like what
Speaker 1: they think generally speaking, especially when you have a sample
Speaker 1: size this large. So for here's one back and forth,
Speaker 1: you literally see almost three thousand likes from Candas's to
Speaker 1: a fourteen thousand from Nick Flentes. Literally, just i'll sum
Speaker 1: up this back and forth. I forget why there was
Speaker 1: for some reason, Candace started saying something about her husband
Speaker 1: and how she mat or whatever, and then Nick Flentez
Speaker 1: popped in with a you know, essentially, hey what about
Speaker 1: John Mappin the renowned scientologist, And I don't think he
Speaker 1: mentioned that he's an Epstein's Black Book who he could have,
Speaker 1: and a couple other things and kind of repeatedly ask him,
Speaker 1: what's up with your relationship with this guy?
Speaker 3: What's up with the relations to this guy?
Speaker 1: And she almost like seemingly purposely avoids the point every
Speaker 1: single time, diverts into some other thing. For example, at
Speaker 1: one point he mentions his you know, kind of young
Speaker 1: Russian Kazakh wife, kind of seemingly probably making allusions to, like,
Speaker 1: I know, some sort of her being basically a build
Speaker 1: a bitch, possibly which I don't know who knows, but
Speaker 1: either way, then she gets on a tangent of like, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: is that weird? This that like like that's not what
Speaker 1: I'm asking, And I think people see through it, and
Speaker 1: I think this is an example of it, and it's
Speaker 1: just kind of the idea that she's cooked. And this
Speaker 1: isn't even if you've been falling my show, you know,
Speaker 1: there's other shit out there that like Nick didn't even
Speaker 1: have to dig deep into the well to find shit.
Speaker 1: This is like if you've been following the John Mappin
Speaker 1: he's been like one of her biggest supporters recently. He's
Speaker 1: literally in Epstein's Black Book. He's like the major fucking
Speaker 1: one of the major scientologists in the UK. He helped
Speaker 1: create tp UK, so like the UK chapter of TPUSA. Uh,
Speaker 1: and he's been one of the donors from TPUSA, one
Speaker 1: of the only ones who kind of been supporting Kanna's
Speaker 1: grift through this uh and.
Speaker 3: Very weird and very weird fashion.
Speaker 1: So he's also like on Christmas Day but this weird
Speaker 1: thing with him with lizard mask on and giving a
Speaker 1: really creepy message. Weird shit. But uh, I just I
Speaker 1: want to show you. And then obviously don't have anything
Speaker 1: about the Mitch Snow stuff. That's just too ridiculous. I
Speaker 1: see people in the chat saying that there was an
Speaker 1: MP report in Son's phone call, confirmed report, Watchka love you,
Speaker 1: black Eye. But the little bit I paid attention. I
Speaker 1: don't know about the son's phone call, but I've seen
Speaker 1: people jumping on dumb shit. I think though, actually I
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. The phone call. They're referring
Speaker 1: to placing him at the base, which okay, sure he
Speaker 1: was at the base. Perhaps this MP report looks sketchy
Speaker 1: as fuck the one I saw to begin with.
Speaker 3: And even if you do assume it's true.
Speaker 1: It's literally saying that he showed up there, made some
Speaker 1: sort of crazy scene and got kicked off the base.
Speaker 1: So it's not even like really at not even really
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't prove that he saw this secret meeting,
Speaker 1: and yet it made it proved he was in the vicinity.
Speaker 3: Like that's it. But I don't just any thought. I
Speaker 3: didn't know if you have any thoughts.
Speaker 1: I just want to show you an example of like
Speaker 1: clearly the damn's breaking on the Candice Drift. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously funt as his own gigantic following h but the
Speaker 1: stuff spooky over there, you know, for example, I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't even let the if you are someone who's like,
Speaker 1: oh no, that means you're a fed slop. I mean
Speaker 1: I've before, I've talked about this to show I've had
Speaker 1: Dana on the show, uh to talk about Apparently Michael
Speaker 1: Aquino's co author of Mind War is literally on the
Speaker 1: board of TPUs A so, lieutenant colonel yes, Lieutenant colonels yep,
Speaker 1: Lieutenant colonel doctor ipsis amiss, he is a no, never mind,
Speaker 1: Paul Valley, am I retarded to Paul Valilee vale Vale,
Speaker 1: I forget I think it's something like that. But yes,
Speaker 1: here's Dana said, such an easy shot at shot at
Speaker 1: turning point to point the late Colonel Michael Aqueena's protector
Speaker 1: is on their board, which the reference or protector is
Speaker 1: because apparently there was a weird falling out. It was
Speaker 1: the the over in the military or whatever about Aquino's
Speaker 1: satanic beliefs and val Valley tried to claim he wasn't aware, whereas, uh,
Speaker 1: there's stuff. It was later proven he's been aware because
Speaker 1: this is something that from the jump. But anyways, so yeah,
Speaker 1: and this was at the same time when Kandas was
Speaker 1: there too, so you know whatever, that doesn't necessarily mean anything,
Speaker 1: but yeah, he was. He's been on the board since
Speaker 1: at least twenty eighteen of Valaily. So yeah, he's a
Speaker 1: guy who was the co author of From sign Up
Speaker 1: to Mind War The Psychology of Victory Paul E.
Speaker 3: Valily, so you can see right here. Paul E.
Speaker 1: Valily, Advisory Council Member, Major General, US Army, was born
Speaker 1: in Dupois, Pennsylvania. He retired at ninety one from the
Speaker 1: US Army as Deputy commanding General. He graduated from the
Speaker 1: US Military Academy West Point YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 3: You can see all his accolades.
Speaker 1: You can even even point out he worked in special operations,
Speaker 1: psychological and civil military operations. To let even hide it,
Speaker 1: this is yeah, advisory council member for TPUSA, Paul well Leily.
Speaker 1: You can see his name right here, Colonel Paul eve.
Speaker 3: Valley. So yeah, there he is. So yeah, wild shit.
Speaker 3: But yeah.
Speaker 1: So, I mean I'm saying this whole thing glows all around,
Speaker 1: and I think the dam's breaking and hopefully people can
Speaker 1: break out this silly little dialectic and that it's like
Speaker 1: it's one or the other. No, maybe they're all retarded,
Speaker 1: or they're all playing you. One of the two be
Speaker 1: a little bit smarter. But Ken, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you have any thoughts. If you have any other thoughts,
Speaker 1: so you can you can let them out now. Otherwise
Speaker 1: I think I've kept you here long enough.
Speaker 3: We can let you go.
Speaker 1: I forgot to show you a couple crazy candases before
Speaker 1: I let you go, just to kind of let you
Speaker 1: know that I think you were right.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I love to see it.
Speaker 6: I mean, when I was going against her pretty much
Speaker 6: within weeks of the Kirk killing, and at the time
Speaker 6: you know, Flint has always hated her.
Speaker 2: But it's pretty much.
Speaker 6: Like a bunch of Zionists, and I was one of
Speaker 6: the only one, like anti zionist journalists doing this, and
Speaker 6: like a lot of people accuse me of flipping two.
Speaker 6: I'd get like twenty comments every time I express skepticism.
Speaker 6: And obviously it's almost like a cottage industry of people
Speaker 6: debunking Candace. So I feel like my work here has
Speaker 6: been done. We've got like Alex Jones, Gary Melton, the
Speaker 6: paramount tactical account other people are constantly just debunking her.
Speaker 6: So you know, hopefully I'll never have to talk about
Speaker 6: Candace again. And good riddance, and yeah, have a happy
Speaker 6: New Year. That's pretty much all I got to say.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, yeah, I don't know if you drop any plugs.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're over at Headline USA. I guess you
Speaker 1: don't really have any other plugs in that. But I
Speaker 1: appreciate you being here. Let you go, I'll have you
Speaker 1: on again. I'm sure some other time we'll pop in
Speaker 1: the chat say hello, and we'll run through some foreign
Speaker 1: policy then we get out of here.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you joining me today.
Speaker 2: Bub All right, have a good one take care, Are
Speaker 2: you too have a New Years YouTube? Bye?
Speaker 1: All right, guys, we'll pop in, we'll do the We'll
Speaker 1: probably maybe do like should I say good mornings and
Speaker 1: all that feels weird so late into the show, maybe
Speaker 1: some of the last ones. An Actually, let's pop in
Speaker 1: the first like ten minutes or so, we'll say good morning, sir.
Speaker 1: Buddy may pop into the bottom see if you have
Speaker 1: any guys, any thoughts, and then we'll run through some
Speaker 1: foreign policy and get out here.
Speaker 3: Maybe call it early Day to day.
Speaker 1: Good morning, black Eye, Good morning, says hello from twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six, living down under. He's in the future, Buddy, Well,
Speaker 1: happy new Year, since you're already there, Black Eye, Good morning, Ilian,
Speaker 1: Big Cat, Good morning, Dazz, Good morning, comment Mama, Good morning, Tilla,
Speaker 1: good morning, good morning, good morning, block A, good morning,
Speaker 1: Good morning, Chad Head, Good morning, John Black says. As
Speaker 1: we enter a new year, it's time to reflect on
Speaker 1: important things like the fact you don't hate the garment
Speaker 1: yet enough. Good morning, Uncle Ted, Good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 1: I don't know why you hate Keed so much. I'd
Speaker 1: ever get it, but hey, I like ken Good morning
Speaker 1: is say what now? Good morning, Ray and Cap says
Speaker 1: Happy New Year from Thailand. Happened ten minutes ago. Are
Speaker 1: you ever in Highland?
Speaker 3: You little Thai lady boy Ray appreciate you joining us today.
Speaker 3: Good morning, good morning, good morning, bug fights, good good morning,
Speaker 3: good morning.
Speaker 1: Stinky sock. It's great wall color choice. What it'll be different,
Speaker 1: It's different soon eventually get around to painting that wall.
Speaker 1: Good morning, Darn the dragon, so, good morning, good morning,
Speaker 1: good morning, Marna Mac, Good morning, are Auburn Sky, good morning,
Speaker 1: good morning. I think I've gone for far enough. Let's
Speaker 1: pop into the bottom of the chat. See if you
Speaker 1: guys got I we'll say good morning. A couple of
Speaker 1: you guys near the bottom. Good morning, Mega Nerd. Here's
Speaker 1: uncle or uncle Ted saying I like Kenny's dope. I
Speaker 1: swear to God every time I mentioned Ked, I show
Speaker 1: you you have weird fed.
Speaker 3: Jackety comments, so you have an odd way of show
Speaker 3: showing it, uncle Ted, but I'm glad you like him.
Speaker 3: Good morning, Mustache, good.
Speaker 1: Morning, good morning, good morning, Tony Chin, Good morning, chows
Speaker 1: in the cornfield. Let me see who else we got,
Speaker 1: see IF's anybody else, Good morning. Mike full Liberty says
Speaker 1: something about Kyle on info WARS. I didn't see what
Speaker 1: you were talking about there, Kyle dropping something on info Wars.
Speaker 1: May see if I go back, Okay, here you go.
Speaker 1: Did you guys not see the video of the black
Speaker 1: autistic dude the FBI is trying to pin it on
Speaker 1: driving his blue Nissan at the same time the actual
Speaker 1: pipe bomber is supposed to be walking around. No, I
Speaker 1: didn't see that one particularly. We did talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about that. I don't know if that maybe those
Speaker 1: mentioned in passing. I mean, obviously, I think we kind
Speaker 1: of already both think that he's probably. I mean, I
Speaker 1: haven't dug really into enough to have an authoritative position
Speaker 1: or authoritative position on like what I think. And I
Speaker 1: guess not that authoritative. I wouldn't think it's authority that
Speaker 1: I don't have a definitive position. That's what I mean
Speaker 1: to say. Authoritative was the wrong word. I don't really
Speaker 1: have a definitive position on it. Vibe based I've kind
Speaker 1: of from the jump with this norbit looking guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he does seem like a patsy, but he kind of
Speaker 1: seemed like a very convenient patsy for people whose case
Speaker 1: was falling apart. But yeah, so I guess you're saying
Speaker 1: Kyle dropped it.
Speaker 3: Kyle.
Speaker 1: That's what Kyle dropped on Info Wars, which, like, I guess,
Speaker 1: good for him. I know I think people should stray
Speaker 1: away from that guy. But whatever. All right, guys, let's
Speaker 1: go through foreign policy. Let's run through the last Let's
Speaker 1: go through the last little leg of the show. Here today,
Speaker 1: we're a little bit out of order. But tomorrow I
Speaker 1: should be back, maybe solo, maybe we'll have Austin with us.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I won't be here Friday.
Speaker 1: By the way, my kiddo has a wrestling tournament, so
Speaker 1: I will not be here for the Friday dump. So sorry,
Speaker 1: you guys will have to wait till next week. Let's
Speaker 1: get into this foreign policy. Apparently Israel is still up
Speaker 1: to the Shenanigans. They killed an eleven year old Palestinian
Speaker 1: girl in Gaza, so yes, great stuff. This was Dana
Speaker 1: mcotta and according to Mamod Basal, spokesman for Gaza's Civil Defense,
Speaker 1: she was killed in the Zarka area of the Tufa
Speaker 1: neighborhood in northeast Gaza City. His witness has told the
Speaker 1: Palistine News Agency that Israeli military vehicles entered the area
Speaker 1: and fired indiscriminately in one round hit Mukuata, killing her.
Speaker 3: So yeah, just shooting.
Speaker 1: Let's see if there's anything respond for them. Waffall supported
Speaker 1: their child. The women were injured by Israeli attack. West Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything in here about a response about
Speaker 1: Israel confirming or giving excuse or anything, which they probably
Speaker 1: stopped doing that a while ago.
Speaker 3: But yes, I would I would take that as probably
Speaker 3: a cease fire violation.
Speaker 1: I know we are our present recently said that there
Speaker 1: are none that they've been They've been upholding their side
Speaker 1: of the deal one hundred percent. But I would say
Speaker 1: murdering children, that might that just might be breaking the
Speaker 1: ceasefire because it would contain it's it's literally fire your
Speaker 1: fir rings. So you know they were therefore not ceasing
Speaker 1: the fire, I mean, but yeah, I mean, according to
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, they're following it one hundred percent. We got
Speaker 1: a response from Iran about some of the nonsense from
Speaker 1: Netan Yahoo's visit recently. They're warning the response to any
Speaker 1: attack would be severe, which you know, I know they
Speaker 1: must be. Really any country is gonna say that, but
Speaker 1: I think this time is believable because we had those
Speaker 1: initial attacks and they did have some sort of minor response,
Speaker 1: but it was all kind of coordinated. I don't I
Speaker 1: just I don't buy that they're gonna be able to
Speaker 1: save face again. And I also think they probably probably
Speaker 1: came saved to good a mind one of those rockets.
Speaker 1: So I do think this could actually be I don't
Speaker 1: know if it interesting is the right word bad, I guess,
Speaker 1: although I kind of can't blame them. I mean, how
Speaker 1: often can you get shipped on before they're gonna lob
Speaker 1: some stuff back? And they do have the capability to
Speaker 1: fuck Israel up, so you know, we'll say not that
Speaker 1: I'm necessarily wishing any anything happened there, but as you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I could totally get it.
Speaker 1: During all this too, he got Smotridge claiming that he
Speaker 1: is full U has support for illegal settler expansion in
Speaker 1: the occupied West Bank. So that's great that he's spreading
Speaker 1: that word around. That's just wonderful. Let's check on that,
Speaker 1: Bazaye little Smotridge the Finance Minister of Israel. He's a
Speaker 1: bank or the backer of the illegal seller movement set
Speaker 1: in Thirtiecember that Washington has given Tel Aviv full support
Speaker 1: to expand settlements into the occupied West Bank and violation
Speaker 1: of international law. But oh whatever, it's just it's just
Speaker 1: bazae little smote saying it. Who gives a shit, he's
Speaker 1: just a What does that mean? It doesn't mean nothing,
Speaker 1: says the US A mystery is giving us full support
Speaker 1: to expand settlements in the West Bank in order to
Speaker 1: undermine the establishment of Palestinian states. Modred said the statement
Speaker 1: coincided with nat Yaho's visit to the US and came
Speaker 1: after a meeting between net Yahu and Trump. Says, we
Speaker 1: have had a discussion, big discussion for a long time
Speaker 1: on the West Bank, and I wouldn't say we agree
Speaker 1: on the West Bank one hundred percent, but we'll come
Speaker 1: to a conclusion the West Bank, Trump said after a meeting.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, quite the conclusion. When asked by reporters of
Speaker 1: the disagreements about Trump said, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: It will be announced at appropriate time. Net Yahu will
Speaker 1: do the right thing, the US president went to say.
Speaker 1: Since coming to power in twenty twenty two, net Yagu's
Speaker 1: government has been rapidly advancing Israel's long standing goal of
Speaker 1: annecing the West Bank, which has occupied illegally during the
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven war. So and just recently Trump was
Speaker 1: claiming that he wouldn't allow Israel d nx the West Bank,
Speaker 1: which let's be real, they already are just as a
Speaker 1: matter of what degree of formality. And it sounds like
Speaker 1: they may have just completely given up the ghosts and
Speaker 1: just being leving them go to the highest level formal
Speaker 1: and just fucking doing it now. I think they'll probably
Speaker 1: be hushash about it. We'll see if they have the
Speaker 1: balls to just go yep, that's that's what we did.
Speaker 3: And last last.
Speaker 1: Story over here in foreign policy, Uh, not looking good
Speaker 1: on this Russia front. But I mean, obviously Zelensky's a
Speaker 1: little liar too, so who knows, But we got Zelenski
Speaker 1: out here saying that he's holding with Trump talks with
Speaker 1: Trump on a US troop deployment to Ukraine. So Zelenski
Speaker 1: said on Tuesday, these held talks with Trump's on the
Speaker 1: possibility of the US deploying troops Ukraine. So he made
Speaker 1: the comment when asked that the US plans to deploy
Speaker 1: troops as part of a security guarantee. He says, to
Speaker 1: be honest, this can only be confirmed by the President
Speaker 1: of the United States. These are US troops and therefore
Speaker 1: is America that makes such decisions, and he says, of course,
Speaker 1: we are discussing this both with President Trump and with
Speaker 1: representatives of the Coalition of the Willing. He added, referring
Speaker 1: to a group of European countries led by the UK
Speaker 1: and France, that are pushing for deployment of NATO troops
Speaker 1: Ukraine as part of a peace deal, and idea Russia's
Speaker 1: repeatedly rejected. He also said he would like to see
Speaker 1: US Trumps deployed Ukraine territories part of the guarantee. Also
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, Donald Tusk, the Polish Prime minster, claimed that
Speaker 1: the US has already agreed to deploy troops to Ukraine
Speaker 1: as part of it security guarantees.
Speaker 3: US officials have said the US is.
Speaker 1: Offered NATO Article five style security guarantees to Ukraine, but
Speaker 1: have not said that the US is willing to send troops. So,
Speaker 1: for those who aren't aware the article, that's literally like
Speaker 1: the whole thing to start over is that we didn't
Speaker 1: want to give NATO involvement. So now it's technically non
Speaker 1: it's they're saying it's Article five styles. So I guess
Speaker 1: it depends on what does that exactly mean. But if
Speaker 1: it is any sort of security guarantee, so far as
Speaker 1: we will go to war if this situation, that is
Speaker 1: a problem because it's kind of default the same thing,
Speaker 1: the same issue as a whole NATO involvement a Quinzelinski,
Speaker 1: the US has agreed to provide US fifteen year security guarantee.
Speaker 3: Great.
Speaker 1: Either NATO style security guarantee or NATO troop deployment would
Speaker 1: almost certainly be rejected by Moscow, and the fact that
Speaker 1: the ideas are on the table makes a peace deal
Speaker 1: extremely unlikely. After holding talks with Zelenski and Florida on Sunday,
Speaker 1: President Trump said the issue of land is also not settled,
Speaker 1: as Ukraine is refusing to see the territory it still
Speaker 1: controls in the Dawn Bass, a key Russian demand. So great,
Speaker 1: isn't it great? Finally we finally ended the war over
Speaker 1: in Russia. Thank god we have President Trump in that right.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, this rolls the chat, say hi's all
Speaker 1: that good stuff, and then we're probably get out of
Speaker 1: here pretty early day, early day to day. Let me
Speaker 1: see what you guys got, say Megan Nerd says, what
Speaker 1: struck me on the same week the news story about
Speaker 1: being the police woman they finally got they finally find
Speaker 1: the guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that was right after their story. I know
Speaker 3: what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: You're talking about the police woman, the lady we were
Speaker 1: talking about, and then they find that norbit looking guy
Speaker 1: in reference to the j six pipe bomb story, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, who knows.
Speaker 1: You can never put too much stock into single little
Speaker 1: anecdotal occurrences, but it is it was awfully convenient that,
Speaker 1: right when the blaze of story was falling to absolute shit,
Speaker 1: that we get this obvious, like very obvious looking patsy
Speaker 1: so they can.
Speaker 3: Go, oh, well, that's totally not the guy. You guys
Speaker 3: are so stupid.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, what they said was probably fucking stupid as well,
Speaker 1: although maybe they were correct, but it clearly was built
Speaker 1: on quicksands, so very very shitty reporting. So, uh, Tillis's
Speaker 1: didn't I ran to Claire Warren us I don't think
Speaker 1: so that.
Speaker 3: I recall, Maybe Gerald says jest is handsome.
Speaker 1: That's the last time I'm gonna say that in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five, liably many more times for that here in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, U pjrs As are we having fun yet?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Lots of lots of fun. Shouts and cornfields. Is when
Speaker 1: organizations or governments do exactly what the US and Israel
Speaker 1: need them to. I'm a little suspicious me and you too.
Speaker 1: Brother Tony Chin is telling us to watch the news
Speaker 1: tonight and avoid public spaces.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know if you're meaning.
Speaker 1: We're like referring to Oh, I get what you're saying,
Speaker 1: because it is New Year's tonight, so he's the kind
Speaker 1: of higher chance of things happening.
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