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<v Speaker 1>Today, I want to tell you about a journey that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on for most of my life. Ever since

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, I've heard tales of bigfoot and

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<v Speaker 1>wild men while spending time with my friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>As I grew older and read more about the paranormal,

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<v Speaker 2>Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going

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<v Speaker 2>on here. Something just kid with my dog, something to

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<v Speaker 2>kill your dog? My dog. We're flying through there, over

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<v Speaker 2>the tree. I don't know how it did it? Okay, damn,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming

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<v Speaker 2>over the fence, and name was dead once you hit

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<v Speaker 2>the ground. I didn't see any cars. All I saw

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<v Speaker 2>was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what are

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<v Speaker 2>you reporting? We got some wonder or something crawling around

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<v Speaker 2>out here? Did you see what it was? It was

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<v Speaker 2>enough out here. Look, I'm new to the window now

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside.

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<v Speaker 2>Its future. Hello, hit the fuddy out here? What quinte

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<v Speaker 2>on alter? I thought of a bit of about tech

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<v Speaker 2>foot nine. I don't know, easy of Alther.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm walking right heady like folks on the work

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<v Speaker 1>of My guest to the show is Kristen from Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>I am excited to have you. I been looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to this conversation. So let's get right into it. What

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<v Speaker 1>guy you interested in the subject of Bigfoot in the paranormal.

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<v Speaker 3>To begin with, of course, as a kid, you always

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<v Speaker 3>hear about the Bigfoot in the Pacific Northwest. I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>small town country girl from northeast Georgia. I didn't think

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like that existed in my area, but at the

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<v Speaker 3>age of sixteen, I had a life changing experience. Just

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<v Speaker 3>to give a little background, now, thirty eight years old,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, I was sixteen at the time. I

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<v Speaker 3>live in a little county. It's Albert County, known for

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<v Speaker 3>the god stones that blew up. That's about all we're

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<v Speaker 3>known for. So I've been born and raised here my

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<v Speaker 3>whole life left come back. I'm an ear nurse, that's

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<v Speaker 3>my profession, and as hobby, I would go look for

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<v Speaker 3>Bigfoot in the weird. Sixteen years old, I played in

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<v Speaker 3>a band. It was a country band. Everyone in the

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<v Speaker 3>band was a bit older than me. I'd say late

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<v Speaker 3>fifties early sixties country band. So we would all get

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<v Speaker 3>to around at my parents' place every second weekend of

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<v Speaker 3>the night, then make music. The band member's wife, Susie,

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, she was probably mid fifties at that time,

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<v Speaker 3>and myself decided to go look at some egle nests

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<v Speaker 3>on the property at the very back end of thirty

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<v Speaker 3>acres during break from band practice. It's still daylight, it's

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<v Speaker 3>in the evening. It's summer, beautiful weather. We hop on

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<v Speaker 3>the ATV and take off. Like I said, it's thirty

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<v Speaker 3>eight of nothing but wood near the river, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>a long, skinny tract of land and we head down

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<v Speaker 3>as far as we can go on the ATV. We

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<v Speaker 3>park it and what we call all a pig path

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<v Speaker 3>has been cut from the top of the hill down

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<v Speaker 3>the ridge red levels out and you have a we

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<v Speaker 3>call a swamp area that goes across several people's property,

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<v Speaker 3>and then on the end of my parents' property was

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<v Speaker 3>a breed. If you go right out on the point

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<v Speaker 3>of that creek and swamp area, you can look out

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<v Speaker 3>and see at that time several eagle nests, and every

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<v Speaker 3>now and then eagle would fly over. We're minding arm business,

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<v Speaker 3>I said, it's gorgeous. All of a sudden, out of

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<v Speaker 3>nowhere we're looking, we hear something coming towards us. And

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<v Speaker 3>whatever this is coming at us quick. It's crashing through

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<v Speaker 3>the brush. It's thick wood, so there's a good bit

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<v Speaker 3>of trees there's a lot of foliage on there at summertime.

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<v Speaker 3>But you could see this thing coming towards us. The

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<v Speaker 3>smaller trees were literally bending over as it was coming

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<v Speaker 3>as very fast. Of course, she starts screaming. I don't scream,

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<v Speaker 3>but I freeze because I'm not understanding what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>This thing. I'm gonna call it a bigfoot. This bigfoot

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<v Speaker 3>comes towards us onside the ridge. It gets between us

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<v Speaker 3>and the ATV, and it stops. The woods go dead silent,

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<v Speaker 3>and you could have heard a pin drop. It is eerie.

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<v Speaker 3>It's quiet. There are no birds, there are no insects,

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<v Speaker 3>there is no movement whatsoever. It is dead, silent. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sitting here looking at whatever stopped in between us and

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<v Speaker 3>the ATV, and what I see is a massive creature

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<v Speaker 3>on two legs. The width of it I would describe

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<v Speaker 3>as being up against the Georgia football player with all

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<v Speaker 3>their deer wrong their massive width. The height of it

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<v Speaker 3>is estimating so and a half a top. It's larger

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<v Speaker 3>than your average everyday human. Unfortunately, because of how many

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<v Speaker 3>leaves are on the trees and the thick woods, you

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<v Speaker 3>can't see any detail of this creature of the big Foot.

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<v Speaker 3>But you can see the mass blocking out the sunlight.

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<v Speaker 3>You could see the mass of it, the width of

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<v Speaker 3>it in the woods, standing there looking at us. She

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<v Speaker 3>grabs me. Of course, funny now not. And then but

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<v Speaker 3>she grabs me and throws me out in front of her,

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<v Speaker 3>and she starts screaming, We're gonna die, We're gonna die.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sitting there thinking, oh, dear, I think I might die.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that there's nowhere to go. Behind me and

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<v Speaker 3>to the side of me is nothing but water. In

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<v Speaker 3>front of me where the ATV is, there's this creature

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<v Speaker 3>standing there. We have nowhere to go. We're way back

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<v Speaker 3>in the mill of the wood. It's now aching here scream.

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<v Speaker 3>There's nobody else back there. I'm sitting there looking at it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going through my mind, what is this?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>We have fear on the property, we have bobcap, we

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<v Speaker 3>have all the variety of animals. I've come into contact

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<v Speaker 3>with bear several times. I'm sure there could be possibly

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<v Speaker 3>a hunter that comes across our land. But this was

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<v Speaker 3>no man, this was no person. Aguillly suit. People are

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<v Speaker 3>like you just saw that. People said you saw a

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<v Speaker 3>bear stand out in too lays I did not. This

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<v Speaker 3>was something I've never seen before. So this creature is

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<v Speaker 3>bigfood is down there looking at us. I don't hear anything.

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<v Speaker 3>People have asked me to smell it. I didn't sell anything.

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<v Speaker 3>At the time. It was just quiet. But it's standing there,

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<v Speaker 3>it's looking in us, and all of a sudden, probably

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<v Speaker 3>I'm estimating seconds, twenty seconds, thirty seconds, which feels like

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<v Speaker 3>an hour, it just turns and it walks away. And

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<v Speaker 3>it continues in the same direction it was going. But

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<v Speaker 3>as it turns and it walks away, as it crosses

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<v Speaker 3>the pig path where there was more of an opening,

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<v Speaker 3>what I saw on what I focused on in my

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<v Speaker 3>mind was as it walked and are and a hand

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<v Speaker 3>swung out as if you and I were walking, and

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<v Speaker 3>that in my mind, that's what I focused on. And

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<v Speaker 3>at that point I was like, I know what this is.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not a human. It walked away quietly. It

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<v Speaker 3>walked away with no sound and continued on its merry

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<v Speaker 3>little way. I don't know if it come at us,

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<v Speaker 3>because he she, I want to say she. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like it was a she. If she thought we were

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<v Speaker 3>a threat. Maybe there was a young in the area,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe its home was there. Maybe we just invaded the territory.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but it come at us like I

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<v Speaker 3>would describe like a mother dog protecting her pups. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think when she realized it realized we were not

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<v Speaker 3>there to hurt anything and were just terrified, it was like, eh, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll continue on. So when we could no longer hear it,

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<v Speaker 3>we took off run and we jumped on the ATV

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<v Speaker 3>and headed back towards the studio where the band was practicing.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was like in a dream, you just can't

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<v Speaker 3>go fast enough. It felt like something was behind you,

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<v Speaker 3>chasing you. It wasn't, but it was just that terrifying.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, we get back to the studio, we're screaming.

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<v Speaker 3>We'd tell people what happened, what was saw, and they're like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, she saw a bear And here comes

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<v Speaker 3>the no you did, and grab your guitar. We got

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<v Speaker 3>to play. And that changed her life and the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that she used to go out on the ated You're

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<v Speaker 3>a Man practice and way in the woods. She would

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<v Speaker 3>ride the trails and have fun. She never went back

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<v Speaker 3>in the woods after that, and still to this day

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<v Speaker 3>she speaks of do you remember that time in the woods?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you remember what we saw? Guests, and as as

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<v Speaker 3>far as my life, it changed because I have to

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<v Speaker 3>know more. I want to see what I saw all

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<v Speaker 3>those years ago. I want to see you had to

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<v Speaker 3>tell I want to see a face, but I want

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<v Speaker 3>to know what I saw. I have an idea what

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<v Speaker 3>I saw, but I didn't get detail. So I'm on

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<v Speaker 3>a quest for the truth to see and find out

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<v Speaker 3>more about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I am on that same path with you. I've definitely

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<v Speaker 1>had some things happened to me over the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of months that have completely changed the way that I

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<v Speaker 1>felt about the subject. I was on the fence of

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<v Speaker 1>about whether or not these things are real, and now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one hundred percent I know because I've seen them.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go back and talk a little bit about I

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<v Speaker 1>am very familiar with Elbert County, Georgia. I did a

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<v Speaker 1>show a couple of years ago. We did this in

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<v Speaker 1>addition to Bigfoot. I do a couple of other podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>I host for full time podcasts, and we did one

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<v Speaker 1>on some history stuff. I was fascinated with the Georgia guidestones.

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<v Speaker 1>We did a pretty decent job of covering the Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>guidestones on one of those episodes, me and my buddy

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<v Speaker 1>Greg out in California and lo and behold. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was probably less than a week after that aired,

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<v Speaker 1>some Yahoo blew up the Guidestones. That was a very

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<v Speaker 1>popular episode, and I had tons of listeners reaching out

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<v Speaker 1>to me, sending me emails and sending me messages that

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<v Speaker 1>day saying, hey, man, do you think your show had

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<v Speaker 1>something to do with that? You think this crazy guy

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<v Speaker 1>heard you talk about the Georgia guide stones. So I

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<v Speaker 1>literally had this old crap moment of I hope I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't somehow responsible for this guy blowing up the Georgia guidstones.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a little funny aside. I'm definitely familiar.

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<v Speaker 3>With that area.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go back to the time of day, Chris and

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize. I don't know if you said it or not,

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<v Speaker 1>but what time of day were we talking when this

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<v Speaker 1>experience happened. Was it dusk? Was it dark? Was it

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<v Speaker 1>getting dark when you had this experience?

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<v Speaker 3>It was in the evening. It was still daylight outside,

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<v Speaker 1>So you go back and you tell people, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very similar thing that I've heard so many times that

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to exist, especially in Georgia, right because everybody knows

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot's just the Pacific Northwest according to some. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're having this experience and you go back and you

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<v Speaker 1>tell these people that you have a relationship with, that

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<v Speaker 1>you believe should believe you, and you get ridicule. That

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<v Speaker 1>I know what that's like. I've been there, done that,

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<v Speaker 1>you and say, hey, you didn't see what you thought

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<v Speaker 1>you saw. It was something else, Right, How did that

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like to me, obviously you sent me as

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<v Speaker 1>the things that you've had experiences with after this, but

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<v Speaker 1>know more. I want to know more about these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you start actively telling more people about your experience

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<v Speaker 1>getting in Facebook groups? How did you start going down

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<v Speaker 1>the Bigfoot rabbit hole? And what does that look like

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<v Speaker 3>At that age of sixteen, the Internet was actually just

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<v Speaker 3>becoming popular, so you didn't have all the social media

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<v Speaker 3>end up making a report with BFRO. I shared my

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<v Speaker 3>encounter with a few close people. Of course, was laughed at, ridiculed,

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<v Speaker 3>even mom dad. He was like, oh my gosh, you

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<v Speaker 3>did not see that. It was even my mom Dad. No,

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<v Speaker 3>my mom, she has had experiences on that property, and

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<v Speaker 3>she was like, I completely believe you. But at the age

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<v Speaker 3>filed that away. My life was focused on college, just

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<v Speaker 3>starting life, enjoying life too, and I got keys to

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<v Speaker 3>a car. I'm gone. However, after I graduated nursing school,

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<v Speaker 3>more focused, because it never left my mind, and now

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<v Speaker 3>I had nightmares like horrible nightmares about that day, felt

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<v Speaker 3>that away, but it was still there. The older I got,

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<v Speaker 3>the more I started digging. After we made the BFROI report,

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of BFR members come down actually whenever the property,

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<v Speaker 3>and from there I started meeting people. And now I

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<v Speaker 3>started meeting people in the area, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not alone. Even the neighbors have had encounters. That

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<v Speaker 3>was like verification to me, I'm not crazy. I did

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<v Speaker 3>see something and an I'm a wum. Now, even to

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<v Speaker 3>this day, I get made fun of. When I was younger,

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<v Speaker 3>that was more sensitive to that. It bothered me more

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<v Speaker 3>because I who wants to be made fun of and

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<v Speaker 3>laughed at? And you're the crazy girl. Oh, you're the

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<v Speaker 3>crazy bigfoot hunter. But now I'm like, I don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>This has actually become part of my life now a

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<v Speaker 3>large part of my life. And now I've met some

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<v Speaker 3>amazing people, even calling family friends that have become family.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think currently with as much media, it's almost

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<v Speaker 3>like a popular thing. Now big foot is popular, so

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<v Speaker 3>you're not rich fueled as much, but you still have

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<v Speaker 3>those people, even close friends. It's no, you're nuts, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned for more sasquatch oat to see. We'll be

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<v Speaker 3>But it's okay. I'm okay with that now. It's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care what people think. I'm me. I do

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<v Speaker 3>what I do. If you don't like me, if you

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<v Speaker 3>don't like what I do, it's okay. That's your view,

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<v Speaker 3>it's mine.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about getting out there. Do you actually go

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<v Speaker 1>boots on the ground in the woods looking for these

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<v Speaker 1>things trying to have more experiences with them. If so,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about some of those adventures. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to throw in some of the other experiences that you

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<v Speaker 1>talked about your mom having and some of the neighbors

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<v Speaker 1>having that they've shared with you, that would be fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure. Unfortunately my parents sold the property this year. Earlier

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<v Speaker 3>this year, but my mama she found footprints in the

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<v Speaker 3>snow when she was checking the property line. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>snow often, and George, yeah, take those property lines and

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<v Speaker 3>hit the horses and ghosts don't get out of fants.

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<v Speaker 3>But she found like smaller footprints. She's been eight to

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<v Speaker 3>say screened app because the way she described it was

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<v Speaker 3>a roar of a screen and she said the only

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<v Speaker 3>thing possible was a big foot. She narrowed down the

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<v Speaker 3>sound on the internet. She said, if you cross an

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<v Speaker 3>angry silver backed gorilla and the roar of a lion,

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<v Speaker 3>amplify that with the power of an elephant, you may

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<v Speaker 3>have what yelled at me that night. So if she's

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<v Speaker 3>had things thrown at her, she would go pan for

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<v Speaker 3>gold in the creek. There was never any gold just

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, but she would try to pan for gold,

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<v Speaker 3>and she would have, like well, things tossed at her

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<v Speaker 3>from the ridge line because the creek went down in

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<v Speaker 3>a gully. But she would have things tossed at her.

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<v Speaker 3>She'd get the filling of being watch. She would smell stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, the footprints, and I even casted two

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<v Speaker 3>years ago a large sixteen inch footprint. I do believe

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<v Speaker 3>in a smaller bitty footprint, and see use some pictures

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<v Speaker 3>of that. So I think they're still there. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 3>come through as far as the neighbor he's seen it.

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<v Speaker 3>There's plenty of occurrences there. But I go out with

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<v Speaker 3>the groups I'm currently involved with ASOG just started Seekers.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm involved with those two groups. We do go out

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<v Speaker 3>in the field. We stay usually pretty much the south

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<v Speaker 3>East US. I've got to see some amazing things, got

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<v Speaker 3>to capture some amazing things on camera and video. So

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<v Speaker 3>our group is all about boots on the ground. Now

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<v Speaker 3>we can research on the internet, but unless you get

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<v Speaker 3>out in the field and you're out in the woods,

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<v Speaker 3>you cannot have those encounters, you cannot make those discoveries.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're all about researching out in the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about some of those research trips and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about some of those amazing things that you've experienced and

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<v Speaker 1>captured on some of those trips when you've been out

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<v Speaker 3>I'll start with actually one of the most recent happenings

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<v Speaker 3>no member of Last year, we had an outing, a

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<v Speaker 3>research outing, and unfortunately a group member that was his

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<v Speaker 3>last outing with this and he passed away cancer this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Bob Wilson. Hush, he was my hero. But on that

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<v Speaker 3>outing I was able to capture a bipedal creature staring

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<v Speaker 3>back at me in a creek bed area way back

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<v Speaker 3>in the woods. And just what was it. A month

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<v Speaker 3>ago we went back to the same area, we had

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<v Speaker 3>another siding and unfortunately my thermal decided to mess up

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit, so I didn't capture it. However, another

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<v Speaker 3>group member was able to capture something on thermal as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas Smiting be about seven and a half foot tall,

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<v Speaker 3>about war foot wide, and the movement was very fluid,

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<v Speaker 3>so something going through the woods at a high rate

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<v Speaker 3>of speed after being sided. It's not human, but I

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<v Speaker 3>do believe we come big well outing from November. The

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<v Speaker 3>photo is actually of it's something standing right center of

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<v Speaker 3>the screen looking back at me and actually blends in

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<v Speaker 3>well with the environment. And unfortunately, when I was filming that,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't even realize it was standing in front of me.

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<v Speaker 3>I could just hear it and sense that something was there.

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<v Speaker 3>In the video, you can actually see me pan over

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought I was hearing maybe like at a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of line squirrels on video. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>pensive flying squirrel. But I panned back and I said, no,

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<v Speaker 3>there's something here. It's looking at me and did center

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<v Speaker 3>of the frame. There is something standing there, and then

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<v Speaker 3>it retreats back and it gets behind the set of trees,

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<v Speaker 3>peeks out, goes back in. But zaally, at that time

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<v Speaker 3>I knew something was there, but I didn't even see

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<v Speaker 3>it on my thermal because of how well it blended in.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's crazy. It was standing so close to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's unnerving when you think about it. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>guys hearing a lot of vocalization in the area? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you seeing tree breaks, tree structures? Talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about what kind of physical evidence you guys are finding

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to having these sightings and these other experiences

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<v Speaker 1>that you're having.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, the most frequent sighting or evidence that we

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<v Speaker 3>have are like tree twists, tree breaks, and structures in

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<v Speaker 3>heavily wooded areas that humans don't go. But we're seeing

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of structures being placed. And even in areas

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<v Speaker 3>we frequent we get footprints. We do, of course we

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<v Speaker 3>see footprints. It's just hard to get a good clear

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<v Speaker 3>track because of the weaves, the sticks, just the brush

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<v Speaker 3>that oreent. It's hard to get trace. So we do

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<v Speaker 3>find tracks, but the most obvious are the tree structures

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<v Speaker 3>that we are finding. Unfortunately, I've never found any type

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<v Speaker 3>of hair or anything, but I possibly won't buy it.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as vocalizations, they're not so frequent. It's occasional.

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<v Speaker 3>What was that did you hear that? Yes, we can't

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<v Speaker 3>contribute it to an hour or something like that. The

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<v Speaker 3>last outing like I said, in this area we went to,

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<v Speaker 3>we were hearing some localizations one night in about three

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<v Speaker 3>different locations, and we had already got back to base camp,

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<v Speaker 3>was sitting around a campfire, and we were hearing them

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<v Speaker 3>from all directions. We didn't have our recorders on us.

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<v Speaker 3>Our therminals were packed away and we didn't have anything.

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<v Speaker 3>We were not prepared, so we didn't get these on

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<v Speaker 3>video or audio. But structures are the most common binding

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<v Speaker 3>we see.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk a little bit about the structures that you're finding,

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<v Speaker 1>because I've seen the tree breaks, the twist that you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. I've seen those in just about everywhere that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been here in the southeastern United States and North Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 1>even down in Florida. I've seen them in radium up

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<v Speaker 1>But I've also found here on our land in North

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina what I call full chrum type deals where there

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<v Speaker 1>I say there, I'm assuming it's got something to do

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<v Speaker 1>with bigfoot sasquatch activity, because it doesn't make sense otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>like balancing sticks on top of other sticks. It's really weird.

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<v Speaker 1>And I found those multiple times what looked like something

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<v Speaker 1>has tried to pull together a nest. Maybe we found

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<v Speaker 1>some rock stacks. So let's talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>the structures that you guys are finding. Are you finding

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<v Speaker 1>things woven together? Are there just sticks laid on top

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<v Speaker 1>of each other? Talk a little bit more in detail

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<v Speaker 1>about the structures that you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of the structures we find are large trees,

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<v Speaker 3>large heavy trees that have been uprooted and drug from somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>We can't find the origin of where the trees come from,

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<v Speaker 3>but they have been stacked in like a crisscross manner,

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<v Speaker 3>often doing like ex's or asterisks types patterns, and they're

417
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<v Speaker 3>laid to where they don't fall. They kind of balance

418
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<v Speaker 3>each other out. Occasionally we will find trees that have

419
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<v Speaker 3>been pulled over and somehow secured with another tree to

420
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<v Speaker 3>hold it down to keep it from coming up. I

421
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<v Speaker 3>could not pick these huge trees up, and other guys

422
00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:19.759
<v Speaker 3>we couldn't move these, so whatever, this is pretty strong.

423
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<v Speaker 3>Of course, we always tried to and be like, could

424
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<v Speaker 3>this tree have fallen here? Could that tree of fall

425
00:23:24.119 --> 00:23:28.200
<v Speaker 3>in here? The structures we find, no, there's no way possible.

426
00:23:28.279 --> 00:23:33.799
<v Speaker 3>Something has physically stacked and crisscross these trees and logs

427
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<v Speaker 3>in a pattern that we can't replicate. And what they

428
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<v Speaker 3>mean we don't know. But we're finding in them areas

429
00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:46.079
<v Speaker 3>alongside of the trails, right off of the trail where

430
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<v Speaker 3>there is maybe human activity, but also just areas we

431
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<v Speaker 3>decide to go off trail, just we'd wacking through the

432
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<v Speaker 3>woods and we'll find a random structure. We don't know

433
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<v Speaker 3>what they mean. Tree to us their occasional and yet

434
00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:05.599
<v Speaker 3>again it's something I and a strong man physically could

435
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<v Speaker 3>not do with the size of the trees.

436
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm definitely familiar. I've tried to do it on

437
00:24:09.599 --> 00:24:13.160
<v Speaker 1>a two inch tree up in Radium, just two inches

438
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<v Speaker 1>to break it. At six and a half almost seven feet,

439
00:24:17.119 --> 00:24:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm six foot two, so I was trying to break

440
00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:22.839
<v Speaker 1>it above my head. It's very difficult to do. I

441
00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:25.519
<v Speaker 1>was eventually able to break it. There's a video on

442
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<v Speaker 1>social media if you guys want to see it, I've

443
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<v Speaker 1>posted it, and it's also a part of the book

444
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<v Speaker 1>Sasquatch on the Least, The Truth behind the Legend. You

445
00:24:31.559 --> 00:24:34.599
<v Speaker 1>guys can see it there as well. But it's tough.

446
00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:37.440
<v Speaker 1>You think, oh, it's just a small sapling. Anybody could

447
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<v Speaker 1>come across and just twist that in any way make

448
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<v Speaker 1>it look like that. No, if you actually try to

449
00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:46.000
<v Speaker 1>physically do it, it's not out of the realm of possibility.

450
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<v Speaker 1>But it's not probable that people are just going through

451
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<v Speaker 1>and making those kind of breaks, especially in areas where

452
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<v Speaker 1>very much like you said, there's not a whole lot

453
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<v Speaker 1>of human traffic. Right in Radium, we were eighteen miles deep.

454
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<v Speaker 1>We were literally the only people out there, So I

455
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<v Speaker 1>definitely know it was not other people could have been

456
00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:06.000
<v Speaker 1>tied faking it, but I definitely don't believe it was

457
00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:07.920
<v Speaker 1>other people. Let's talk a little bit about some of

458
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<v Speaker 1>these photos that you sent with what looks to be

459
00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:13.119
<v Speaker 1>hand prints. Can you talk a little bit about give

460
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<v Speaker 1>everybody sort of the setup for how those were discovered

461
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<v Speaker 1>and the story behind those.

462
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<v Speaker 3>Sure, this was in an area that is primitive campsite,

463
00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:25.680
<v Speaker 3>but it did have a privy set up. That's about it,

464
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<v Speaker 3>no electricity or anything. I went up in this area

465
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<v Speaker 3>to investigate with another group researchers. The guy was like,

466
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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to show you something. He had actually had

467
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<v Speaker 3>a sighting in this area just recently, actually saw a

468
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<v Speaker 3>sashquatch and said, found some handprints. And he said, y'all

469
00:25:43.240 --> 00:25:46.279
<v Speaker 3>come on, and I'll thank you too. So we head

470
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<v Speaker 3>to this other location again. It's out in the middle

471
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<v Speaker 3>of nowhere. He said, just take a look here, and

472
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<v Speaker 3>on the outside of the preview were multiple handprints. I

473
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<v Speaker 3>can't say they weren't there by somebody, because this was,

474
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<v Speaker 3>like I said, this was actually a primitive campground. But

475
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<v Speaker 3>in the detail of these the fingers, you could see

476
00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:16.440
<v Speaker 3>the digits, the sections of digits, you could see them

477
00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:20.000
<v Speaker 3>broken up, and you could see where this thing put

478
00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:23.279
<v Speaker 3>its hands on the outhouse. Possibly was like peeping out

479
00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:25.119
<v Speaker 3>from around it because you can't even see where there

480
00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:29.200
<v Speaker 3>was hand movement. Some people have said the material left

481
00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:33.039
<v Speaker 3>behind is maybe even like a seagung all type substance

482
00:26:33.079 --> 00:26:36.240
<v Speaker 3>from these Sasquatch hands. We were at that time thinking

483
00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:40.559
<v Speaker 3>may's just mud, because when the researcher saw the sasquatch

484
00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:43.359
<v Speaker 3>it was yucky outside. It had been rained and storming,

485
00:26:43.640 --> 00:26:46.079
<v Speaker 3>so he theorized it was just he had muddy. Hand

486
00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:50.359
<v Speaker 3>was all around the prevw looking around possibly another human,

487
00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:54.400
<v Speaker 3>and left goods prints. I'm not sure what the substance was.

488
00:26:54.440 --> 00:26:58.319
<v Speaker 3>And this was several years ago. At that time, I've

489
00:26:58.400 --> 00:27:01.279
<v Speaker 3>learned a lot. I should have taking some samples. I

490
00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:03.039
<v Speaker 3>should have done a lot more than I did, but

491
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:07.640
<v Speaker 3>I didn't. But I did Vodebro and the hands were shumongous. Well,

492
00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:08.880
<v Speaker 3>I can say they were huge.

493
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<v Speaker 1>I'll post these over on the blog for everybody to

494
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<v Speaker 1>take a look at. If you want to, head over

495
00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:15.559
<v Speaker 1>to Pandemworldproductions dot com look at the Sasquatch ota see

496
00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:17.559
<v Speaker 1>blog at the top of the page and you'll see these.

497
00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at them now. And whoever's hand that is

498
00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:23.480
<v Speaker 1>in the photo looks like a normal sized hand to me.

499
00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:27.279
<v Speaker 1>And the one on the right, this alleged Sasquatch print

500
00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:30.799
<v Speaker 1>is huge. Humongous is a good word. Well, it definitely

501
00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:33.519
<v Speaker 1>does it justice. It's definitely a huge print and it

502
00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:36.240
<v Speaker 1>clearly looks like five digits there. Let's talk a little

503
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:38.039
<v Speaker 1>bit about the first couple of photos that you sent

504
00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:41.319
<v Speaker 1>me in relation to I believe your parents home. Can

505
00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:43.119
<v Speaker 1>you talk a little bit about the scratches and the

506
00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:44.680
<v Speaker 1>floor and what was going on there?

507
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:50.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And so our group AESOG actually investigates an area

508
00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:54.440
<v Speaker 3>known as the Meadow. You guys may have heard of it. It's

509
00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:57.400
<v Speaker 3>this ole Skinwalker Ranch. It's actually a book that Trey

510
00:27:57.480 --> 00:28:00.359
<v Speaker 3>Hudson has put out. We call it The Meadow. We

511
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:04.000
<v Speaker 3>frequent this area. So I went out on a research

512
00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:07.160
<v Speaker 3>investigation with a zog with this group. I don't think

513
00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:11.759
<v Speaker 3>anything happened, which oftentimes majority of times when we research,

514
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:16.640
<v Speaker 3>nothing happens. But i'd store my equipment. I store on

515
00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:20.559
<v Speaker 3>my bigfoot my hunting stuff at my parents' home. Of course,

516
00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:23.519
<v Speaker 3>I loaded up before I went. When I got back

517
00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:26.839
<v Speaker 3>from the outing, I took it back to my parents'

518
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:30.359
<v Speaker 3>house and was starting to unload my equipment. The area

519
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.440
<v Speaker 3>of the house that we go through and I store everything.

520
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:36.319
<v Speaker 3>Nobody stays in that area, they say, in the other

521
00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:38.480
<v Speaker 3>part of the house, so no one had been part

522
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:42.519
<v Speaker 3>of the house. And my mom is like, Kristen, what

523
00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:44.599
<v Speaker 3>did you do? I'm like, what do you mean? What

524
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:47.319
<v Speaker 3>I do? And as I'm going in the house, I'm

525
00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:53.119
<v Speaker 3>looking on hardwood fours scratches in the hardwood floor, fresh scratches,

526
00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:57.359
<v Speaker 3>because you could steal the powder from something being scratched

527
00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:01.400
<v Speaker 3>on wood. That fine powder was still there. So this

528
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:04.839
<v Speaker 3>happened in between a four or five day period of

529
00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:07.640
<v Speaker 3>me getting my equipment and bringing it back now she

530
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:10.160
<v Speaker 3>would not have scratched up the heartwood floors. There are

531
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:13.880
<v Speaker 3>no animals. It was like something just taking a sharp

532
00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:18.279
<v Speaker 3>object and just gouged the floor everywhere, and it's still

533
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:21.440
<v Speaker 3>there to this day. They didn't have them refinished. But

534
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:23.880
<v Speaker 3>like I said, that part of the house isn't used.

535
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:28.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It's unexplained. We ain't do it. I

536
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:31.759
<v Speaker 3>don't know what did. It's feel scary.

537
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:35.880
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned it earlier, having some idea at this point.

538
00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:38.839
<v Speaker 1>Obviously you had no clue at sixteen. Most of us

539
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:41.119
<v Speaker 1>still don't have a clue today what we think these

540
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>things are or have any idea what they really are.

541
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:45.680
<v Speaker 1>But you mentioned that you have a good idea about

542
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:47.599
<v Speaker 1>what you saw. Let's talk about a couple of things.

543
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:51.880
<v Speaker 1>How do you approach as far as your research? Are

544
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:54.200
<v Speaker 1>you more in the flesh and blood camp? Are you

545
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>into the high strangeness? Have you had experiences that you

546
00:29:57.720 --> 00:30:01.519
<v Speaker 1>would consider WU or high strength in relation to Bigfoot?

547
00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>And how do you deal with that as far as

548
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>your research and how you approach the subject. Then the

549
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:09.480
<v Speaker 1>second part of that question would be, obviously it's subjective,

550
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:13.160
<v Speaker 1>nobody knows, but what is your opinion on now that

551
00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:16.160
<v Speaker 1>you've educated yourself and done this research and had these

552
00:30:16.279 --> 00:30:19.119
<v Speaker 1>multiple experiences. What do you think these things might be?

553
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, stay tuned for more Sasquatch hot to see.

554
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:26.119
<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back after these messages.

555
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<v Speaker 3>Beginning of research, flesh and blood, some type of ape, humans,

556
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:39.960
<v Speaker 3>some type of creature strictly flesh and blood. Since researching,

557
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:44.440
<v Speaker 3>my view has changed a little. My opinion now is

558
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:47.039
<v Speaker 3>that maybe you do have the flesh and blood creatures,

559
00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:51.839
<v Speaker 3>the apes, the something in that nature, and you do

560
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:58.720
<v Speaker 3>have a interdimensional being, extra terrestrial, something not of this world,

561
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:01.599
<v Speaker 3>or at least not stays in this world all the time.

562
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:04.839
<v Speaker 3>The reason I say that is because what I saw

563
00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:07.880
<v Speaker 3>I believe was a flesh and blood creature. There was

564
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:13.319
<v Speaker 3>nothing weird, nothing strange. It was, I do believe, completely normal.

565
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:18.240
<v Speaker 3>But now researching, we've seen tracks, we followed a track

566
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:24.599
<v Speaker 3>line of something bipedal with five taos, very large big foot,

567
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.920
<v Speaker 3>and these tracks have continued and then they stopped, they disappear,

568
00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:32.519
<v Speaker 3>They're just gone. It makes no sense. Also, when we've

569
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:35.880
<v Speaker 3>been out researching in these areas where we've had bigfoot activity,

570
00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:40.880
<v Speaker 3>we have had lights. I've actually filed what I think

571
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:44.599
<v Speaker 3>may be a possible portal. I don't know what it is.

572
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:48.039
<v Speaker 3>But yet again, does this kind of tie back into

573
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:52.160
<v Speaker 3>bigfoot because I've seen odd things, lights in the woods,

574
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:56.559
<v Speaker 3>tracks stopping. It just doesn't make sense. Things that move

575
00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:01.039
<v Speaker 3>extremely fast at an unhuman, un any rate of speed.

576
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:04.000
<v Speaker 3>And now also toyed with idea maybe a big bit

577
00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:08.960
<v Speaker 3>has abilities that's just completely natural to them that we

578
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:12.839
<v Speaker 3>don't fully understand. But in my opinion, I think there's

579
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:16.359
<v Speaker 3>two different things. Something in new dimensional ilian. I write

580
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:19.680
<v Speaker 3>something and then your flesh and blood, cause things do

581
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:22.519
<v Speaker 3>not add up. So the more I go out, no

582
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:25.519
<v Speaker 3>more questions I have. I don't know what it is.

583
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:27.319
<v Speaker 3>That's my two cents on it.

584
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>The questions are what keeps me coming back over and

585
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:31.559
<v Speaker 1>over again.

586
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:35.200
<v Speaker 3>To further that, when we have had big Fit activity,

587
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:38.000
<v Speaker 3>we have also seen orbs. I know we're not the

588
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:40.960
<v Speaker 3>only ones. Even we've encountered people and inspecting with people

589
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:43.759
<v Speaker 3>who have seen a sasquad or a big fit that

590
00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:48.480
<v Speaker 3>has had a ball of light with them or following them. Now,

591
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:52.079
<v Speaker 3>to me, that's not some oversized gorilla walking through the woods.

592
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:54.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's ever been documented a gorilla in sometime,

593
00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:58.319
<v Speaker 3>but we have seen lots of lights and lots of

594
00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:02.440
<v Speaker 3>orbs when we begin and to have activity of high strangeness.

595
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:05.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the orb connection to Bigfoot is something that I

596
00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:09.000
<v Speaker 1>just cannot wrap my brain around. But I've documented it

597
00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:13.440
<v Speaker 1>multiple times at this point with multiple witnesses that are

598
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:16.839
<v Speaker 1>very credible, that have a very flesh and blood experience

599
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:20.799
<v Speaker 1>with a sasquatch, and yet there's something weird going on

600
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:23.759
<v Speaker 1>with orbs, and even I've had people tell me that

601
00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>they've seen Bigfoot turn into orbs, and there's all kinds

602
00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>of different things. But I, too, like you, have modified

603
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:34.119
<v Speaker 1>my approach to research and the more people that I

604
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:35.680
<v Speaker 1>talk to, I love to talk to people that I

605
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:38.559
<v Speaker 1>disagree with. I interviewed Tom Powell recently, and not that

606
00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I necessarily disagree with Tom Powell, but he's been in

607
00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:44.480
<v Speaker 1>this for decades. He knows just about everybody there is

608
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:47.920
<v Speaker 1>in Bigfoot. He's been boots on the ground researching and

609
00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>going out and taking reports with the BFRO and then

610
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>for himself, and he's written multiple books. But he's very open,

611
00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:58.000
<v Speaker 1>let's say, to the high strangeness part of this. He

612
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:02.240
<v Speaker 1>believes that there's a whole other realm and dimension if

613
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>you will to these creatures, and he doesn't believe it's

614
00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:07.480
<v Speaker 1>just some big ape that's walking around in the woods.

615
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:11.880
<v Speaker 1>But he also taught me a very valuable lesson. I

616
00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:13.840
<v Speaker 1>think one of the things that I remember him saying

617
00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:16.800
<v Speaker 1>recently in his interview was he's friends with Cliff Barrickman,

618
00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:18.440
<v Speaker 1>who's a good friend of mine, and Cliff and I

619
00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:20.519
<v Speaker 1>are pretty much in the same vein as far as

620
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:23.639
<v Speaker 1>believing these things are flesh and blood creatures. But Tom's look,

621
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:26.559
<v Speaker 1>you guys have been researching with your cameras and your

622
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<v Speaker 1>thermals and your equipment to capture audio, and you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>for footprints, and you're putting up these camera traps. You've

624
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<v Speaker 1>been doing that for fifty years and it hasn't really

625
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>gotten us very far. Do you guys go do that.

626
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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go and talk to these people who

627
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<v Speaker 1>have these really weird experiences and try to document as

628
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<v Speaker 1>much as this stuff as I can, and let's go

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<v Speaker 1>have a beer later and compare notes. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's honestly the best thing that we can do as

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<v Speaker 1>researchers when it comes to bigfoot is let everybody stay

632
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<v Speaker 1>in their lane, turn over every single rock, look behind

633
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<v Speaker 1>every tree, to get the answers that we all seek

634
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:05.199
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to bigfoot. I remember what my question

635
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<v Speaker 1>was going to be earlier, having seen this thing at

636
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<v Speaker 1>a fairly you guys are pretty close when you and

637
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:15.119
<v Speaker 1>she had this experience. Have you seen anything as far

638
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:19.960
<v Speaker 1>as video pictures, other people's evidence out there, whether it

639
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>be the Patterson Gimlin film, the Freeman footage, or any

640
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:24.400
<v Speaker 1>of the stuff that's out there that you might've run

641
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:27.440
<v Speaker 1>across looking digging around and going down the rabbit hole.

642
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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything that looks comparatively similar to what you

643
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<v Speaker 1>saw that you would consider to be a valid video

644
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<v Speaker 1>of an actual sasquatch.

645
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<v Speaker 3>I've always go back to the Patterson Gimblin footage looking

646
00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:43.599
<v Speaker 3>at that, analyzing that it made that it looks real

647
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:47.800
<v Speaker 3>in that time period that would be hard to replicate

648
00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:51.559
<v Speaker 3>nowadays with AI, it's hard to believe anything at this point.

649
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<v Speaker 3>If you would take Patty, put her in the woods

650
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<v Speaker 3>and have her stand stealing straight, I would say that

651
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:02.559
<v Speaker 3>would probably be the most similar creature that's been called.

652
00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:05.480
<v Speaker 3>And it's clear on medio now. I do believe is

653
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<v Speaker 3>real that we match with what I saw that day,

654
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<v Speaker 3>So I always go back to that film. Now there's

655
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<v Speaker 3>tons of videos, tons of pictures out there. I can't say, oh,

656
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:17.719
<v Speaker 3>I think that's really or I don't. But I do

657
00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:20.880
<v Speaker 3>believe the Poison Giblin film is real, is legit.

658
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<v Speaker 1>I have definitely come a long way when it comes

659
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:27.880
<v Speaker 1>to the Patterson Gibbelin film. I'm still even to this day,

660
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<v Speaker 1>I can't be convinced one hundred percent either way, but

661
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<v Speaker 1>I'm almost there that it's completely one hundred percent legitimate.

662
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<v Speaker 1>But I like to ask that question for people who

663
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<v Speaker 1>have had their own experiences and gotten to see these things,

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<v Speaker 1>because you get the different types of descriptions that people

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<v Speaker 1>give you, and they seem to vary a lot based

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<v Speaker 1>on where they happen. Pacific Northwest, these things tend to

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<v Speaker 1>be bigger. It's like Bergmann's rule. Right the farther north,

668
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<v Speaker 1>if you know, the bigger things are the bigger, the

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<v Speaker 1>bears are the bigger, the ungulates are. Everything gets bigger

670
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<v Speaker 1>the farther north you go. You have people who describe

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<v Speaker 1>these different types of bigfoot, and again it goes back

672
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<v Speaker 1>to your point earlier. This is one of the things

673
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<v Speaker 1>I've had a hard time reconciling, and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you about this before we get out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you make of the different types of descriptions

676
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<v Speaker 1>that people give, Because you get the patty types. Some

677
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:25.119
<v Speaker 1>people have that experience. What I saw was not patty.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it is these things are different types.

679
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<v Speaker 1>You're in the medical field, you deal with human anatomy,

680
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<v Speaker 1>and you did all the things to get your degree

681
00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:36.480
<v Speaker 1>to become a nurse, so you're very familiar with the

682
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:39.960
<v Speaker 1>way things move, musculature, body structure, those kind of things.

683
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<v Speaker 1>Do you think people are seeing different types of these creatures?

684
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<v Speaker 1>Do you think they just differ when it comes to regionally?

685
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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about that? Again, I know you're

686
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<v Speaker 1>not an expert. I'm not asking you to be. I'm

687
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<v Speaker 1>just acting your opinion on Do you think there are

688
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:57.199
<v Speaker 1>possibly different types of these things? Are people seeing the

689
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<v Speaker 1>same thing and then under stress it might change or

690
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<v Speaker 1>do you think it's possible that these creatures differ very

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<v Speaker 1>much like humans do from region to region.

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<v Speaker 3>I very much believe that they differ just like humans.

693
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<v Speaker 3>Here I am. I'm five foot five, blonde hair, blue eyed,

694
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<v Speaker 3>my next door neighbor, total opposite. We are all different.

695
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<v Speaker 3>We're all human, but we are all different at the

696
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:25.079
<v Speaker 3>necessity's backgrounds races everything. Now, I do believe sasquatches because

697
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:28.960
<v Speaker 3>they are the same what I saw, I would say

698
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:34.280
<v Speaker 3>most resembles Patty. Another creature that's been seeing multiple times

699
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:38.599
<v Speaker 3>in Elbert County is thin. It's either they describe as

700
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:41.519
<v Speaker 3>being white or gray hair, which what I saw was

701
00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:44.960
<v Speaker 3>like a dark brown, and it's not as tall. It's shorter,

702
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:48.119
<v Speaker 3>but then they would almost describe it as being either

703
00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:53.400
<v Speaker 3>old and frail or spraggledly mangy, complete and total opposite.

704
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<v Speaker 3>I've also had reports nearby where the creatures had red

705
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:02.320
<v Speaker 3>hair and it's been like an average bild, almost my size.

706
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<v Speaker 3>So I don't think there's any certain type or certain

707
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<v Speaker 3>a versus where in Georgia you will only encounter this type.

708
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<v Speaker 3>I do think that they vary in a region. But

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<v Speaker 3>also I'm like you, Pacific Northwest things tend to be larger,

710
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:21.320
<v Speaker 3>so I don't know. I don't know, but that's my

711
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<v Speaker 3>personal opinion that these creatures very just like humans do.

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<v Speaker 1>Last thing, before we get out of here, you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of groups. I don't know if you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have a Facebook page, a website or how people can

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<v Speaker 1>contact the group or whatever. You want to tell us

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<v Speaker 1>about those, we can add that to it as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure. So one group is a SAGA Anomalous Studies, an

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00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:43.679
<v Speaker 3>observation group headed up by Trey Hudson. If you do

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00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:46.960
<v Speaker 3>a Google search you will probably find him. It's called

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<v Speaker 3>the Meadow Project, the South Skinwalker Range. We've been having

721
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<v Speaker 3>a lot interesting discussions, interesting findings coming out of that area,

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<v Speaker 3>and we continue to research. Matter of fact, I'll be

723
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<v Speaker 3>headed up there and here coming up to do some research.

724
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<v Speaker 3>Another group is just forming. It's called Seekers. Darrel Nee

725
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:10.119
<v Speaker 3>started that in almost a pretty much. It's in memory

726
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<v Speaker 3>of Bob Grumpy Wilson. He was head over North Georgia

727
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<v Speaker 3>Cryptive Researchers. Of course you can google him as well,

728
00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:20.599
<v Speaker 3>the amazing guy that we lost. We've also lost another

729
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:23.960
<v Speaker 3>team member of Tim Joel Larden as well, but Seekers

730
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:26.840
<v Speaker 3>was started in memory just to reform the group. Those

731
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<v Speaker 3>are the two main groups that go out and research with,

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<v Speaker 3>so hopefully Seekers will continue to grow. There is a

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<v Speaker 3>Facebook page. I think it actually just went up today,

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<v Speaker 3>So this isn't you Saga do believe we have a

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<v Speaker 3>private page, But there should be some big things coming

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<v Speaker 3>with that group as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome Kristin, thank you so much for joining us and

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<v Speaker 1>sharing your experiences. I've had a blast talking to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>They say you don't gotta go home, but you can't

741
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<v Speaker 4>say I don't want to feel a world of its steps.

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<v Speaker 5>Chart this chart, that chart. Everything came in r get back,

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00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:37.480
<v Speaker 5>pride back, joy for.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, joy staying right.

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<v Speaker 5>There, come in right away. Yes, still things stars stas

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<v Speaker 5>s s st st st still stout stas still steps

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<v Speaker 5>us sets us ness
