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Speaker 2: Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going
Speaker 2: on here. Something just kid with my dog, something to
Speaker 2: kill your dog? My dog. We're flying through there, over
Speaker 2: the tree. I don't know how it did it? Okay, damn,
Speaker 2: I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming
Speaker 2: over the fence, and name was dead once you hit
Speaker 2: the ground. I didn't see any cars. All I saw
Speaker 2: was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what are
Speaker 2: you reporting? We got some wonder or something crawling around
Speaker 2: out here? Did you see what it was? It was
Speaker 2: enough out here. Look, I'm new to the window now
Speaker 2: and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside.
Speaker 2: Its future. Hello, hit the fuddy out here? What quinte
Speaker 2: on alter? I thought of a bit of about tech
Speaker 2: foot nine. I don't know, easy of Alther.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm walking right heady like folks on the work
Speaker 1: of My guest to the show is Kristen from Georgia.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Hello, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: I am excited to have you. I been looking forward
Speaker 1: to this conversation. So let's get right into it. What
Speaker 1: guy you interested in the subject of Bigfoot in the paranormal.
Speaker 3: To begin with, of course, as a kid, you always
Speaker 3: hear about the Bigfoot in the Pacific Northwest. I'm a
Speaker 3: small town country girl from northeast Georgia. I didn't think
Speaker 3: stuff like that existed in my area, but at the
Speaker 3: age of sixteen, I had a life changing experience. Just
Speaker 3: to give a little background, now, thirty eight years old,
Speaker 3: Like I said, I was sixteen at the time. I
Speaker 3: live in a little county. It's Albert County, known for
Speaker 3: the god stones that blew up. That's about all we're
Speaker 3: known for. So I've been born and raised here my
Speaker 3: whole life left come back. I'm an ear nurse, that's
Speaker 3: my profession, and as hobby, I would go look for
Speaker 3: Bigfoot in the weird. Sixteen years old, I played in
Speaker 3: a band. It was a country band. Everyone in the
Speaker 3: band was a bit older than me. I'd say late
Speaker 3: fifties early sixties country band. So we would all get
Speaker 3: to around at my parents' place every second weekend of
Speaker 3: the night, then make music. The band member's wife, Susie,
Speaker 3: like I said, she was probably mid fifties at that time,
Speaker 3: and myself decided to go look at some egle nests
Speaker 3: on the property at the very back end of thirty
Speaker 3: acres during break from band practice. It's still daylight, it's
Speaker 3: in the evening. It's summer, beautiful weather. We hop on
Speaker 3: the ATV and take off. Like I said, it's thirty
Speaker 3: eight of nothing but wood near the river, and it's
Speaker 3: a long, skinny tract of land and we head down
Speaker 3: as far as we can go on the ATV. We
Speaker 3: park it and what we call all a pig path
Speaker 3: has been cut from the top of the hill down
Speaker 3: the ridge red levels out and you have a we
Speaker 3: call a swamp area that goes across several people's property,
Speaker 3: and then on the end of my parents' property was
Speaker 3: a breed. If you go right out on the point
Speaker 3: of that creek and swamp area, you can look out
Speaker 3: and see at that time several eagle nests, and every
Speaker 3: now and then eagle would fly over. We're minding arm business,
Speaker 3: I said, it's gorgeous. All of a sudden, out of
Speaker 3: nowhere we're looking, we hear something coming towards us. And
Speaker 3: whatever this is coming at us quick. It's crashing through
Speaker 3: the brush. It's thick wood, so there's a good bit
Speaker 3: of trees there's a lot of foliage on there at summertime.
Speaker 3: But you could see this thing coming towards us. The
Speaker 3: smaller trees were literally bending over as it was coming
Speaker 3: as very fast. Of course, she starts screaming. I don't scream,
Speaker 3: but I freeze because I'm not understanding what's going on.
Speaker 3: This thing. I'm gonna call it a bigfoot. This bigfoot
Speaker 3: comes towards us onside the ridge. It gets between us
Speaker 3: and the ATV, and it stops. The woods go dead silent,
Speaker 3: and you could have heard a pin drop. It is eerie.
Speaker 3: It's quiet. There are no birds, there are no insects,
Speaker 3: there is no movement whatsoever. It is dead, silent. I'm
Speaker 3: sitting here looking at whatever stopped in between us and
Speaker 3: the ATV, and what I see is a massive creature
Speaker 3: on two legs. The width of it I would describe
Speaker 3: as being up against the Georgia football player with all
Speaker 3: their deer wrong their massive width. The height of it
Speaker 3: is estimating so and a half a top. It's larger
Speaker 3: than your average everyday human. Unfortunately, because of how many
Speaker 3: leaves are on the trees and the thick woods, you
Speaker 3: can't see any detail of this creature of the big Foot.
Speaker 3: But you can see the mass blocking out the sunlight.
Speaker 3: You could see the mass of it, the width of
Speaker 3: it in the woods, standing there looking at us. She
Speaker 3: grabs me. Of course, funny now not. And then but
Speaker 3: she grabs me and throws me out in front of her,
Speaker 3: and she starts screaming, We're gonna die, We're gonna die.
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there thinking, oh, dear, I think I might die.
Speaker 3: I know that there's nowhere to go. Behind me and
Speaker 3: to the side of me is nothing but water. In
Speaker 3: front of me where the ATV is, there's this creature
Speaker 3: standing there. We have nowhere to go. We're way back
Speaker 3: in the mill of the wood. It's now aching here scream.
Speaker 3: There's nobody else back there. I'm sitting there looking at it.
Speaker 3: I'm going through my mind, what is this?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: We have fear on the property, we have bobcap, we
Speaker 3: have all the variety of animals. I've come into contact
Speaker 3: with bear several times. I'm sure there could be possibly
Speaker 3: a hunter that comes across our land. But this was
Speaker 3: no man, this was no person. Aguillly suit. People are
Speaker 3: like you just saw that. People said you saw a
Speaker 3: bear stand out in too lays I did not. This
Speaker 3: was something I've never seen before. So this creature is
Speaker 3: bigfood is down there looking at us. I don't hear anything.
Speaker 3: People have asked me to smell it. I didn't sell anything.
Speaker 3: At the time. It was just quiet. But it's standing there,
Speaker 3: it's looking in us, and all of a sudden, probably
Speaker 3: I'm estimating seconds, twenty seconds, thirty seconds, which feels like
Speaker 3: an hour, it just turns and it walks away. And
Speaker 3: it continues in the same direction it was going. But
Speaker 3: as it turns and it walks away, as it crosses
Speaker 3: the pig path where there was more of an opening,
Speaker 3: what I saw on what I focused on in my
Speaker 3: mind was as it walked and are and a hand
Speaker 3: swung out as if you and I were walking, and
Speaker 3: that in my mind, that's what I focused on. And
Speaker 3: at that point I was like, I know what this is.
Speaker 3: This is not a human. It walked away quietly. It
Speaker 3: walked away with no sound and continued on its merry
Speaker 3: little way. I don't know if it come at us,
Speaker 3: because he she, I want to say she. I feel
Speaker 3: like it was a she. If she thought we were
Speaker 3: a threat. Maybe there was a young in the area,
Speaker 3: maybe its home was there. Maybe we just invaded the territory.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but it come at us like I
Speaker 3: would describe like a mother dog protecting her pups. And
Speaker 3: I think when she realized it realized we were not
Speaker 3: there to hurt anything and were just terrified, it was like, eh, okay,
Speaker 3: I'll continue on. So when we could no longer hear it,
Speaker 3: we took off run and we jumped on the ATV
Speaker 3: and headed back towards the studio where the band was practicing.
Speaker 3: And it was like in a dream, you just can't
Speaker 3: go fast enough. It felt like something was behind you,
Speaker 3: chasing you. It wasn't, but it was just that terrifying.
Speaker 3: Of course, we get back to the studio, we're screaming.
Speaker 3: We'd tell people what happened, what was saw, and they're like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, she saw a bear And here comes
Speaker 3: the no you did, and grab your guitar. We got
Speaker 3: to play. And that changed her life and the fact
Speaker 3: that she used to go out on the ated You're
Speaker 3: a Man practice and way in the woods. She would
Speaker 3: ride the trails and have fun. She never went back
Speaker 3: in the woods after that, and still to this day
Speaker 3: she speaks of do you remember that time in the woods?
Speaker 3: Do you remember what we saw? Guests, and as as
Speaker 3: far as my life, it changed because I have to
Speaker 3: know more. I want to see what I saw all
Speaker 3: those years ago. I want to see you had to
Speaker 3: tell I want to see a face, but I want
Speaker 3: to know what I saw. I have an idea what
Speaker 3: I saw, but I didn't get detail. So I'm on
Speaker 3: a quest for the truth to see and find out
Speaker 3: more about this.
Speaker 1: I am on that same path with you. I've definitely
Speaker 1: had some things happened to me over the last couple
Speaker 1: of months that have completely changed the way that I
Speaker 1: felt about the subject. I was on the fence of
Speaker 1: about whether or not these things are real, and now
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent I know because I've seen them.
Speaker 1: Let's go back and talk a little bit about I
Speaker 1: am very familiar with Elbert County, Georgia. I did a
Speaker 1: show a couple of years ago. We did this in
Speaker 1: addition to Bigfoot. I do a couple of other podcasts
Speaker 1: I host for full time podcasts, and we did one
Speaker 1: on some history stuff. I was fascinated with the Georgia guidestones.
Speaker 1: We did a pretty decent job of covering the Georgia
Speaker 1: guidestones on one of those episodes, me and my buddy
Speaker 1: Greg out in California and lo and behold. I think
Speaker 1: it was probably less than a week after that aired,
Speaker 1: some Yahoo blew up the Guidestones. That was a very
Speaker 1: popular episode, and I had tons of listeners reaching out
Speaker 1: to me, sending me emails and sending me messages that
Speaker 1: day saying, hey, man, do you think your show had
Speaker 1: something to do with that? You think this crazy guy
Speaker 1: heard you talk about the Georgia guide stones. So I
Speaker 1: literally had this old crap moment of I hope I
Speaker 1: wasn't somehow responsible for this guy blowing up the Georgia guidstones.
Speaker 1: Just a little funny aside. I'm definitely familiar.
Speaker 3: With that area.
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the time of day, Chris and
Speaker 1: I apologize. I don't know if you said it or not,
Speaker 1: but what time of day were we talking when this
Speaker 1: experience happened. Was it dusk? Was it dark? Was it
Speaker 1: getting dark when you had this experience?
Speaker 3: It was in the evening. It was still daylight outside,
Speaker 3: but it was getting close to dusk. Give us in
Speaker 3: the evening, and of course in the woods when you
Speaker 3: get in there, things are darker than if you're out
Speaker 3: just walking around. It was evening time, but steal plenty
Speaker 3: of sunlight for you to see your surroundings.
Speaker 1: So you go back and you tell people, it's a
Speaker 1: very similar thing that I've heard so many times that
Speaker 1: people have said, you have this amazing experience. You have
Speaker 1: a close up encounter with this thing that is not
Speaker 1: supposed to exist, especially in Georgia, right because everybody knows
Speaker 1: Bigfoot's just the Pacific Northwest according to some. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you're having this experience and you go back and you
Speaker 1: tell these people that you have a relationship with, that
Speaker 1: you believe should believe you, and you get ridicule. That
Speaker 1: tends to send a lot of people in the opposite direction.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that it didn't do that for you, because
Speaker 1: I know what that's like. I've been there, done that,
Speaker 1: and bought the T shirt. It's tough to have people
Speaker 1: that you respect and you care about basically laugh at
Speaker 1: you and say, hey, you didn't see what you thought
Speaker 1: you saw. It was something else, Right, How did that
Speaker 1: affect you? Moving forward? When you got into the subject,
Speaker 1: it sounds like to me, obviously you sent me as
Speaker 1: of photos and I want to get into some of
Speaker 1: the things that you've had experiences with after this, but
Speaker 1: you clearly went down the path of I got to
Speaker 1: know more. I want to know more about these things.
Speaker 1: Did you start actively telling more people about your experience
Speaker 1: getting in Facebook groups? How did you start going down
Speaker 1: the Bigfoot rabbit hole? And what does that look like
Speaker 1: since you started looking into these things further.
Speaker 3: At that age of sixteen, the Internet was actually just
Speaker 3: becoming popular, so you didn't have all the social media
Speaker 3: groups and all the resources you have now. I did
Speaker 3: end up making a report with BFRO. I shared my
Speaker 3: encounter with a few close people. Of course, was laughed at, ridiculed,
Speaker 3: even mom dad. He was like, oh my gosh, you
Speaker 3: did not see that. It was even my mom Dad. No,
Speaker 3: my mom, she has had experiences on that property, and
Speaker 3: she was like, I completely believe you. But at the age
Speaker 3: of sixteen, being a teen mager, I just put that back,
Speaker 3: filed that away. My life was focused on college, just
Speaker 3: starting life, enjoying life too, and I got keys to
Speaker 3: a car. I'm gone. However, after I graduated nursing school,
Speaker 3: I do believe that's when I really started to get
Speaker 3: more focused, because it never left my mind, and now
Speaker 3: I had nightmares like horrible nightmares about that day, felt
Speaker 3: that away, but it was still there. The older I got,
Speaker 3: the more I started digging. After we made the BFROI report,
Speaker 3: a couple of BFR members come down actually whenever the property,
Speaker 3: and from there I started meeting people. And now I
Speaker 3: started meeting people in the area, and I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm not alone. Even the neighbors have had encounters. That
Speaker 3: was like verification to me, I'm not crazy. I did
Speaker 3: see something and an I'm a wum. Now, even to
Speaker 3: this day, I get made fun of. When I was younger,
Speaker 3: that was more sensitive to that. It bothered me more
Speaker 3: because I who wants to be made fun of and
Speaker 3: laughed at? And you're the crazy girl. Oh, you're the
Speaker 3: crazy bigfoot hunter. But now I'm like, I don't care.
Speaker 3: This has actually become part of my life now a
Speaker 3: large part of my life. And now I've met some
Speaker 3: amazing people, even calling family friends that have become family.
Speaker 3: So I think currently with as much media, it's almost
Speaker 3: like a popular thing. Now big foot is popular, so
Speaker 3: you're not rich fueled as much, but you still have
Speaker 3: those people, even close friends. It's no, you're nuts, and.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more sasquatch oat to see. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: But it's okay. I'm okay with that now. It's fine.
Speaker 3: I don't care what people think. I'm me. I do
Speaker 3: what I do. If you don't like me, if you
Speaker 3: don't like what I do, it's okay. That's your view,
Speaker 3: it's mine.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about getting out there. Do you actually go
Speaker 1: boots on the ground in the woods looking for these
Speaker 1: things trying to have more experiences with them. If so,
Speaker 1: let's talk about some of those adventures. If you want
Speaker 1: to throw in some of the other experiences that you
Speaker 1: talked about your mom having and some of the neighbors
Speaker 1: having that they've shared with you, that would be fantastic
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 3: Sure. Unfortunately my parents sold the property this year. Earlier
Speaker 3: this year, but my mama she found footprints in the
Speaker 3: snow when she was checking the property line. It doesn't
Speaker 3: snow often, and George, yeah, take those property lines and
Speaker 3: hit the horses and ghosts don't get out of fants.
Speaker 3: But she found like smaller footprints. She's been eight to
Speaker 3: say screened app because the way she described it was
Speaker 3: a roar of a screen and she said the only
Speaker 3: thing possible was a big foot. She narrowed down the
Speaker 3: sound on the internet. She said, if you cross an
Speaker 3: angry silver backed gorilla and the roar of a lion,
Speaker 3: amplify that with the power of an elephant, you may
Speaker 3: have what yelled at me that night. So if she's
Speaker 3: had things thrown at her, she would go pan for
Speaker 3: gold in the creek. There was never any gold just
Speaker 3: by the way, but she would try to pan for gold,
Speaker 3: and she would have, like well, things tossed at her
Speaker 3: from the ridge line because the creek went down in
Speaker 3: a gully. But she would have things tossed at her.
Speaker 3: She'd get the filling of being watch. She would smell stuff.
Speaker 3: Like I said, the footprints, and I even casted two
Speaker 3: years ago a large sixteen inch footprint. I do believe
Speaker 3: in a smaller bitty footprint, and see use some pictures
Speaker 3: of that. So I think they're still there. Maybe they
Speaker 3: come through as far as the neighbor he's seen it.
Speaker 3: There's plenty of occurrences there. But I go out with
Speaker 3: the groups I'm currently involved with ASOG just started Seekers.
Speaker 3: I'm involved with those two groups. We do go out
Speaker 3: in the field. We stay usually pretty much the south
Speaker 3: East US. I've got to see some amazing things, got
Speaker 3: to capture some amazing things on camera and video. So
Speaker 3: our group is all about boots on the ground. Now
Speaker 3: we can research on the internet, but unless you get
Speaker 3: out in the field and you're out in the woods,
Speaker 3: you cannot have those encounters, you cannot make those discoveries.
Speaker 3: So we're all about researching out in the woods.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about some of those research trips and talk
Speaker 1: about some of those amazing things that you've experienced and
Speaker 1: captured on some of those trips when you've been out
Speaker 1: in the woods.
Speaker 3: I'll start with actually one of the most recent happenings
Speaker 3: no member of Last year, we had an outing, a
Speaker 3: research outing, and unfortunately a group member that was his
Speaker 3: last outing with this and he passed away cancer this year.
Speaker 3: Bob Wilson. Hush, he was my hero. But on that
Speaker 3: outing I was able to capture a bipedal creature staring
Speaker 3: back at me in a creek bed area way back
Speaker 3: in the woods. And just what was it. A month
Speaker 3: ago we went back to the same area, we had
Speaker 3: another siding and unfortunately my thermal decided to mess up
Speaker 3: a little bit, so I didn't capture it. However, another
Speaker 3: group member was able to capture something on thermal as well.
Speaker 3: Whereas Smiting be about seven and a half foot tall,
Speaker 3: about war foot wide, and the movement was very fluid,
Speaker 3: so something going through the woods at a high rate
Speaker 3: of speed after being sided. It's not human, but I
Speaker 3: do believe we come big well outing from November. The
Speaker 3: photo is actually of it's something standing right center of
Speaker 3: the screen looking back at me and actually blends in
Speaker 3: well with the environment. And unfortunately, when I was filming that,
Speaker 3: I didn't even realize it was standing in front of me.
Speaker 3: I could just hear it and sense that something was there.
Speaker 3: In the video, you can actually see me pan over
Speaker 3: and I thought I was hearing maybe like at a
Speaker 3: couple of line squirrels on video. I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: pensive flying squirrel. But I panned back and I said, no,
Speaker 3: there's something here. It's looking at me and did center
Speaker 3: of the frame. There is something standing there, and then
Speaker 3: it retreats back and it gets behind the set of trees,
Speaker 3: peeks out, goes back in. But zaally, at that time
Speaker 3: I knew something was there, but I didn't even see
Speaker 3: it on my thermal because of how well it blended in.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's crazy. It was standing so close to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's unnerving when you think about it. Are you
Speaker 1: guys hearing a lot of vocalization in the area? Are
Speaker 1: you seeing tree breaks, tree structures? Talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about what kind of physical evidence you guys are finding
Speaker 1: in addition to having these sightings and these other experiences
Speaker 1: that you're having.
Speaker 3: For me, the most frequent sighting or evidence that we
Speaker 3: have are like tree twists, tree breaks, and structures in
Speaker 3: heavily wooded areas that humans don't go. But we're seeing
Speaker 3: a lot of structures being placed. And even in areas
Speaker 3: we frequent we get footprints. We do, of course we
Speaker 3: see footprints. It's just hard to get a good clear
Speaker 3: track because of the weaves, the sticks, just the brush
Speaker 3: that oreent. It's hard to get trace. So we do
Speaker 3: find tracks, but the most obvious are the tree structures
Speaker 3: that we are finding. Unfortunately, I've never found any type
Speaker 3: of hair or anything, but I possibly won't buy it.
Speaker 3: As far as vocalizations, they're not so frequent. It's occasional.
Speaker 3: What was that did you hear that? Yes, we can't
Speaker 3: contribute it to an hour or something like that. The
Speaker 3: last outing like I said, in this area we went to,
Speaker 3: we were hearing some localizations one night in about three
Speaker 3: different locations, and we had already got back to base camp,
Speaker 3: was sitting around a campfire, and we were hearing them
Speaker 3: from all directions. We didn't have our recorders on us.
Speaker 3: Our therminals were packed away and we didn't have anything.
Speaker 3: We were not prepared, so we didn't get these on
Speaker 3: video or audio. But structures are the most common binding
Speaker 3: we see.
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about the structures that you're finding,
Speaker 1: because I've seen the tree breaks, the twist that you're
Speaker 1: talking about. I've seen those in just about everywhere that
Speaker 1: I've been here in the southeastern United States and North Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee,
Speaker 1: even down in Florida. I've seen them in radium up
Speaker 1: in BC, Canada, and recently out in the Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 1: But I've also found here on our land in North
Speaker 1: Carolina what I call full chrum type deals where there
Speaker 1: I say there, I'm assuming it's got something to do
Speaker 1: with bigfoot sasquatch activity, because it doesn't make sense otherwise,
Speaker 1: like balancing sticks on top of other sticks. It's really weird.
Speaker 1: And I found those multiple times what looked like something
Speaker 1: has tried to pull together a nest. Maybe we found
Speaker 1: some rock stacks. So let's talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: the structures that you guys are finding. Are you finding
Speaker 1: things woven together? Are there just sticks laid on top
Speaker 1: of each other? Talk a little bit more in detail
Speaker 1: about the structures that you're talking about.
Speaker 3: A lot of the structures we find are large trees,
Speaker 3: large heavy trees that have been uprooted and drug from somewhere.
Speaker 3: We can't find the origin of where the trees come from,
Speaker 3: but they have been stacked in like a crisscross manner,
Speaker 3: often doing like ex's or asterisks types patterns, and they're
Speaker 3: laid to where they don't fall. They kind of balance
Speaker 3: each other out. Occasionally we will find trees that have
Speaker 3: been pulled over and somehow secured with another tree to
Speaker 3: hold it down to keep it from coming up. I
Speaker 3: could not pick these huge trees up, and other guys
Speaker 3: we couldn't move these, so whatever, this is pretty strong.
Speaker 3: Of course, we always tried to and be like, could
Speaker 3: this tree have fallen here? Could that tree of fall
Speaker 3: in here? The structures we find, no, there's no way possible.
Speaker 3: Something has physically stacked and crisscross these trees and logs
Speaker 3: in a pattern that we can't replicate. And what they
Speaker 3: mean we don't know. But we're finding in them areas
Speaker 3: alongside of the trails, right off of the trail where
Speaker 3: there is maybe human activity, but also just areas we
Speaker 3: decide to go off trail, just we'd wacking through the
Speaker 3: woods and we'll find a random structure. We don't know
Speaker 3: what they mean. Tree to us their occasional and yet
Speaker 3: again it's something I and a strong man physically could
Speaker 3: not do with the size of the trees.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm definitely familiar. I've tried to do it on
Speaker 1: a two inch tree up in Radium, just two inches
Speaker 1: to break it. At six and a half almost seven feet,
Speaker 1: I'm six foot two, so I was trying to break
Speaker 1: it above my head. It's very difficult to do. I
Speaker 1: was eventually able to break it. There's a video on
Speaker 1: social media if you guys want to see it, I've
Speaker 1: posted it, and it's also a part of the book
Speaker 1: Sasquatch on the Least, The Truth behind the Legend. You
Speaker 1: guys can see it there as well. But it's tough.
Speaker 1: You think, oh, it's just a small sapling. Anybody could
Speaker 1: come across and just twist that in any way make
Speaker 1: it look like that. No, if you actually try to
Speaker 1: physically do it, it's not out of the realm of possibility.
Speaker 1: But it's not probable that people are just going through
Speaker 1: and making those kind of breaks, especially in areas where
Speaker 1: very much like you said, there's not a whole lot
Speaker 1: of human traffic. Right in Radium, we were eighteen miles deep.
Speaker 1: We were literally the only people out there, So I
Speaker 1: definitely know it was not other people could have been
Speaker 1: tied faking it, but I definitely don't believe it was
Speaker 1: other people. Let's talk a little bit about some of
Speaker 1: these photos that you sent with what looks to be
Speaker 1: hand prints. Can you talk a little bit about give
Speaker 1: everybody sort of the setup for how those were discovered
Speaker 1: and the story behind those.
Speaker 3: Sure, this was in an area that is primitive campsite,
Speaker 3: but it did have a privy set up. That's about it,
Speaker 3: no electricity or anything. I went up in this area
Speaker 3: to investigate with another group researchers. The guy was like,
Speaker 3: I'm going to show you something. He had actually had
Speaker 3: a sighting in this area just recently, actually saw a
Speaker 3: sashquatch and said, found some handprints. And he said, y'all
Speaker 3: come on, and I'll thank you too. So we head
Speaker 3: to this other location again. It's out in the middle
Speaker 3: of nowhere. He said, just take a look here, and
Speaker 3: on the outside of the preview were multiple handprints. I
Speaker 3: can't say they weren't there by somebody, because this was,
Speaker 3: like I said, this was actually a primitive campground. But
Speaker 3: in the detail of these the fingers, you could see
Speaker 3: the digits, the sections of digits, you could see them
Speaker 3: broken up, and you could see where this thing put
Speaker 3: its hands on the outhouse. Possibly was like peeping out
Speaker 3: from around it because you can't even see where there
Speaker 3: was hand movement. Some people have said the material left
Speaker 3: behind is maybe even like a seagung all type substance
Speaker 3: from these Sasquatch hands. We were at that time thinking
Speaker 3: may's just mud, because when the researcher saw the sasquatch
Speaker 3: it was yucky outside. It had been rained and storming,
Speaker 3: so he theorized it was just he had muddy. Hand
Speaker 3: was all around the prevw looking around possibly another human,
Speaker 3: and left goods prints. I'm not sure what the substance was.
Speaker 3: And this was several years ago. At that time, I've
Speaker 3: learned a lot. I should have taking some samples. I
Speaker 3: should have done a lot more than I did, but
Speaker 3: I didn't. But I did Vodebro and the hands were shumongous. Well,
Speaker 3: I can say they were huge.
Speaker 1: I'll post these over on the blog for everybody to
Speaker 1: take a look at. If you want to, head over
Speaker 1: to Pandemworldproductions dot com look at the Sasquatch ota see
Speaker 1: blog at the top of the page and you'll see these.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at them now. And whoever's hand that is
Speaker 1: in the photo looks like a normal sized hand to me.
Speaker 1: And the one on the right, this alleged Sasquatch print
Speaker 1: is huge. Humongous is a good word. Well, it definitely
Speaker 1: does it justice. It's definitely a huge print and it
Speaker 1: clearly looks like five digits there. Let's talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about the first couple of photos that you sent
Speaker 1: me in relation to I believe your parents home. Can
Speaker 1: you talk a little bit about the scratches and the
Speaker 1: floor and what was going on there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so our group AESOG actually investigates an area
Speaker 3: known as the Meadow. You guys may have heard of it. It's
Speaker 3: this ole Skinwalker Ranch. It's actually a book that Trey
Speaker 3: Hudson has put out. We call it The Meadow. We
Speaker 3: frequent this area. So I went out on a research
Speaker 3: investigation with a zog with this group. I don't think
Speaker 3: anything happened, which oftentimes majority of times when we research,
Speaker 3: nothing happens. But i'd store my equipment. I store on
Speaker 3: my bigfoot my hunting stuff at my parents' home. Of course,
Speaker 3: I loaded up before I went. When I got back
Speaker 3: from the outing, I took it back to my parents'
Speaker 3: house and was starting to unload my equipment. The area
Speaker 3: of the house that we go through and I store everything.
Speaker 3: Nobody stays in that area, they say, in the other
Speaker 3: part of the house, so no one had been part
Speaker 3: of the house. And my mom is like, Kristen, what
Speaker 3: did you do? I'm like, what do you mean? What
Speaker 3: I do? And as I'm going in the house, I'm
Speaker 3: looking on hardwood fours scratches in the hardwood floor, fresh scratches,
Speaker 3: because you could steal the powder from something being scratched
Speaker 3: on wood. That fine powder was still there. So this
Speaker 3: happened in between a four or five day period of
Speaker 3: me getting my equipment and bringing it back now she
Speaker 3: would not have scratched up the heartwood floors. There are
Speaker 3: no animals. It was like something just taking a sharp
Speaker 3: object and just gouged the floor everywhere, and it's still
Speaker 3: there to this day. They didn't have them refinished. But
Speaker 3: like I said, that part of the house isn't used.
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's unexplained. We ain't do it. I
Speaker 3: don't know what did. It's feel scary.
Speaker 1: You mentioned it earlier, having some idea at this point.
Speaker 1: Obviously you had no clue at sixteen. Most of us
Speaker 1: still don't have a clue today what we think these
Speaker 1: things are or have any idea what they really are.
Speaker 1: But you mentioned that you have a good idea about
Speaker 1: what you saw. Let's talk about a couple of things.
Speaker 1: How do you approach as far as your research? Are
Speaker 1: you more in the flesh and blood camp? Are you
Speaker 1: into the high strangeness? Have you had experiences that you
Speaker 1: would consider WU or high strength in relation to Bigfoot?
Speaker 1: And how do you deal with that as far as
Speaker 1: your research and how you approach the subject. Then the
Speaker 1: second part of that question would be, obviously it's subjective,
Speaker 1: nobody knows, but what is your opinion on now that
Speaker 1: you've educated yourself and done this research and had these
Speaker 1: multiple experiences. What do you think these things might be?
Speaker 1: Oh boy, stay tuned for more Sasquatch hot to see.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: Beginning of research, flesh and blood, some type of ape, humans,
Speaker 3: some type of creature strictly flesh and blood. Since researching,
Speaker 3: my view has changed a little. My opinion now is
Speaker 3: that maybe you do have the flesh and blood creatures,
Speaker 3: the apes, the something in that nature, and you do
Speaker 3: have a interdimensional being, extra terrestrial, something not of this world,
Speaker 3: or at least not stays in this world all the time.
Speaker 3: The reason I say that is because what I saw
Speaker 3: I believe was a flesh and blood creature. There was
Speaker 3: nothing weird, nothing strange. It was, I do believe, completely normal.
Speaker 3: But now researching, we've seen tracks, we followed a track
Speaker 3: line of something bipedal with five taos, very large big foot,
Speaker 3: and these tracks have continued and then they stopped, they disappear,
Speaker 3: They're just gone. It makes no sense. Also, when we've
Speaker 3: been out researching in these areas where we've had bigfoot activity,
Speaker 3: we have had lights. I've actually filed what I think
Speaker 3: may be a possible portal. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 3: But yet again, does this kind of tie back into
Speaker 3: bigfoot because I've seen odd things, lights in the woods,
Speaker 3: tracks stopping. It just doesn't make sense. Things that move
Speaker 3: extremely fast at an unhuman, un any rate of speed.
Speaker 3: And now also toyed with idea maybe a big bit
Speaker 3: has abilities that's just completely natural to them that we
Speaker 3: don't fully understand. But in my opinion, I think there's
Speaker 3: two different things. Something in new dimensional ilian. I write
Speaker 3: something and then your flesh and blood, cause things do
Speaker 3: not add up. So the more I go out, no
Speaker 3: more questions I have. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 3: That's my two cents on it.
Speaker 1: The questions are what keeps me coming back over and
Speaker 1: over again.
Speaker 3: To further that, when we have had big Fit activity,
Speaker 3: we have also seen orbs. I know we're not the
Speaker 3: only ones. Even we've encountered people and inspecting with people
Speaker 3: who have seen a sasquad or a big fit that
Speaker 3: has had a ball of light with them or following them. Now,
Speaker 3: to me, that's not some oversized gorilla walking through the woods.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's ever been documented a gorilla in sometime,
Speaker 3: but we have seen lots of lights and lots of
Speaker 3: orbs when we begin and to have activity of high strangeness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the orb connection to Bigfoot is something that I
Speaker 1: just cannot wrap my brain around. But I've documented it
Speaker 1: multiple times at this point with multiple witnesses that are
Speaker 1: very credible, that have a very flesh and blood experience
Speaker 1: with a sasquatch, and yet there's something weird going on
Speaker 1: with orbs, and even I've had people tell me that
Speaker 1: they've seen Bigfoot turn into orbs, and there's all kinds
Speaker 1: of different things. But I, too, like you, have modified
Speaker 1: my approach to research and the more people that I
Speaker 1: talk to, I love to talk to people that I
Speaker 1: disagree with. I interviewed Tom Powell recently, and not that
Speaker 1: I necessarily disagree with Tom Powell, but he's been in
Speaker 1: this for decades. He knows just about everybody there is
Speaker 1: in Bigfoot. He's been boots on the ground researching and
Speaker 1: going out and taking reports with the BFRO and then
Speaker 1: for himself, and he's written multiple books. But he's very open,
Speaker 1: let's say, to the high strangeness part of this. He
Speaker 1: believes that there's a whole other realm and dimension if
Speaker 1: you will to these creatures, and he doesn't believe it's
Speaker 1: just some big ape that's walking around in the woods.
Speaker 1: But he also taught me a very valuable lesson. I
Speaker 1: think one of the things that I remember him saying
Speaker 1: recently in his interview was he's friends with Cliff Barrickman,
Speaker 1: who's a good friend of mine, and Cliff and I
Speaker 1: are pretty much in the same vein as far as
Speaker 1: believing these things are flesh and blood creatures. But Tom's look,
Speaker 1: you guys have been researching with your cameras and your
Speaker 1: thermals and your equipment to capture audio, and you're looking
Speaker 1: for footprints, and you're putting up these camera traps. You've
Speaker 1: been doing that for fifty years and it hasn't really
Speaker 1: gotten us very far. Do you guys go do that.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go and talk to these people who
Speaker 1: have these really weird experiences and try to document as
Speaker 1: much as this stuff as I can, and let's go
Speaker 1: have a beer later and compare notes. And I think
Speaker 1: that's honestly the best thing that we can do as
Speaker 1: researchers when it comes to bigfoot is let everybody stay
Speaker 1: in their lane, turn over every single rock, look behind
Speaker 1: every tree, to get the answers that we all seek
Speaker 1: when it comes to bigfoot. I remember what my question
Speaker 1: was going to be earlier, having seen this thing at
Speaker 1: a fairly you guys are pretty close when you and
Speaker 1: she had this experience. Have you seen anything as far
Speaker 1: as video pictures, other people's evidence out there, whether it
Speaker 1: be the Patterson Gimlin film, the Freeman footage, or any
Speaker 1: of the stuff that's out there that you might've run
Speaker 1: across looking digging around and going down the rabbit hole.
Speaker 1: Is there anything that looks comparatively similar to what you
Speaker 1: saw that you would consider to be a valid video
Speaker 1: of an actual sasquatch.
Speaker 3: I've always go back to the Patterson Gimblin footage looking
Speaker 3: at that, analyzing that it made that it looks real
Speaker 3: in that time period that would be hard to replicate
Speaker 3: nowadays with AI, it's hard to believe anything at this point.
Speaker 3: If you would take Patty, put her in the woods
Speaker 3: and have her stand stealing straight, I would say that
Speaker 3: would probably be the most similar creature that's been called.
Speaker 3: And it's clear on medio now. I do believe is
Speaker 3: real that we match with what I saw that day,
Speaker 3: So I always go back to that film. Now there's
Speaker 3: tons of videos, tons of pictures out there. I can't say, oh,
Speaker 3: I think that's really or I don't. But I do
Speaker 3: believe the Poison Giblin film is real, is legit.
Speaker 1: I have definitely come a long way when it comes
Speaker 1: to the Patterson Gibbelin film. I'm still even to this day,
Speaker 1: I can't be convinced one hundred percent either way, but
Speaker 1: I'm almost there that it's completely one hundred percent legitimate.
Speaker 1: But I like to ask that question for people who
Speaker 1: have had their own experiences and gotten to see these things,
Speaker 1: because you get the different types of descriptions that people
Speaker 1: give you, and they seem to vary a lot based
Speaker 1: on where they happen. Pacific Northwest, these things tend to
Speaker 1: be bigger. It's like Bergmann's rule. Right the farther north,
Speaker 1: if you know, the bigger things are the bigger, the
Speaker 1: bears are the bigger, the ungulates are. Everything gets bigger
Speaker 1: the farther north you go. You have people who describe
Speaker 1: these different types of bigfoot, and again it goes back
Speaker 1: to your point earlier. This is one of the things
Speaker 1: I've had a hard time reconciling, and I want to
Speaker 1: ask you about this before we get out of here.
Speaker 1: What do you make of the different types of descriptions
Speaker 1: that people give, Because you get the patty types. Some
Speaker 1: people have that experience. What I saw was not patty.
Speaker 1: Do you think it is these things are different types.
Speaker 1: You're in the medical field, you deal with human anatomy,
Speaker 1: and you did all the things to get your degree
Speaker 1: to become a nurse, so you're very familiar with the
Speaker 1: way things move, musculature, body structure, those kind of things.
Speaker 1: Do you think people are seeing different types of these creatures?
Speaker 1: Do you think they just differ when it comes to regionally?
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? Again, I know you're
Speaker 1: not an expert. I'm not asking you to be. I'm
Speaker 1: just acting your opinion on Do you think there are
Speaker 1: possibly different types of these things? Are people seeing the
Speaker 1: same thing and then under stress it might change or
Speaker 1: do you think it's possible that these creatures differ very
Speaker 1: much like humans do from region to region.
Speaker 3: I very much believe that they differ just like humans.
Speaker 3: Here I am. I'm five foot five, blonde hair, blue eyed,
Speaker 3: my next door neighbor, total opposite. We are all different.
Speaker 3: We're all human, but we are all different at the
Speaker 3: necessity's backgrounds races everything. Now, I do believe sasquatches because
Speaker 3: they are the same what I saw, I would say
Speaker 3: most resembles Patty. Another creature that's been seeing multiple times
Speaker 3: in Elbert County is thin. It's either they describe as
Speaker 3: being white or gray hair, which what I saw was
Speaker 3: like a dark brown, and it's not as tall. It's shorter,
Speaker 3: but then they would almost describe it as being either
Speaker 3: old and frail or spraggledly mangy, complete and total opposite.
Speaker 3: I've also had reports nearby where the creatures had red
Speaker 3: hair and it's been like an average bild, almost my size.
Speaker 3: So I don't think there's any certain type or certain
Speaker 3: a versus where in Georgia you will only encounter this type.
Speaker 3: I do think that they vary in a region. But
Speaker 3: also I'm like you, Pacific Northwest things tend to be larger,
Speaker 3: so I don't know. I don't know, but that's my
Speaker 3: personal opinion that these creatures very just like humans do.
Speaker 1: Last thing, before we get out of here, you mentioned
Speaker 1: a couple of groups. I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: have a Facebook page, a website or how people can
Speaker 1: contact the group or whatever. You want to tell us
Speaker 1: about those, we can add that to it as well.
Speaker 3: Sure. So one group is a SAGA Anomalous Studies, an
Speaker 3: observation group headed up by Trey Hudson. If you do
Speaker 3: a Google search you will probably find him. It's called
Speaker 3: the Meadow Project, the South Skinwalker Range. We've been having
Speaker 3: a lot interesting discussions, interesting findings coming out of that area,
Speaker 3: and we continue to research. Matter of fact, I'll be
Speaker 3: headed up there and here coming up to do some research.
Speaker 3: Another group is just forming. It's called Seekers. Darrel Nee
Speaker 3: started that in almost a pretty much. It's in memory
Speaker 3: of Bob Grumpy Wilson. He was head over North Georgia
Speaker 3: Cryptive Researchers. Of course you can google him as well,
Speaker 3: the amazing guy that we lost. We've also lost another
Speaker 3: team member of Tim Joel Larden as well, but Seekers
Speaker 3: was started in memory just to reform the group. Those
Speaker 3: are the two main groups that go out and research with,
Speaker 3: so hopefully Seekers will continue to grow. There is a
Speaker 3: Facebook page. I think it actually just went up today,
Speaker 3: So this isn't you Saga do believe we have a
Speaker 3: private page, But there should be some big things coming
Speaker 3: with that group as well.
Speaker 1: Awesome Kristin, thank you so much for joining us and
Speaker 1: sharing your experiences. I've had a blast talking to you.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
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