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<v Speaker 1>Going behind the music once more. With this highlight from

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<v Speaker 1>a recent episode of Booked on Rock, Luca Parassi returns

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<v Speaker 1>the title of his book, Paul McCartney press to play

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<v Speaker 1>that unmistakable eighties sound. It's part of Lily Publishing Milestone's

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<v Speaker 1>series Phil Collins, and he's credited on one track on

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<v Speaker 1>this album, Angry. That's the next track. But honestly, I

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<v Speaker 1>hear him. I hear him on Good Times, Coming Field

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<v Speaker 1>the Sun, I hear him on Talk More Talk, I

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<v Speaker 1>hear him on the last four tracks, starting with a

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty Little Head. He's not playing drums on that one,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like that drum loop is something you'd

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<v Speaker 1>hear on No jacket required, m that's him on the

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<v Speaker 1>next track, move Over Busker and after Angry is the

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<v Speaker 1>final track, however, absurd that's him on the drums. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious to your thoughts. I could wait to ask

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<v Speaker 1>him because I love Phil Collins. I'm curious as to

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on where you hear him outside of his

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote official credit. I'm angry.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm not dating to h Phil Collins says, you are,

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<v Speaker 2>so I trusted, I trusted? What what what you hear well,

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<v Speaker 2>having having spoken with Jerry about some of these tracks,

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<v Speaker 2>he definitely confirmed his own presence. So I'm not aware

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<v Speaker 2>of Phil Collins being in other tracks because it basically

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<v Speaker 2>was according to what we know, it was basically in

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<v Speaker 2>in the city for one day because that's the track

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<v Speaker 2>Angry was recorded one week after Live Aid. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>the Live Aid was was on the other thirteenth of July,

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<v Speaker 2>and so the Saturday twenty they showed up him and

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<v Speaker 2>the townshend on guitar and was also Eddie Rayner on

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<v Speaker 2>on synthesizer was in the studio. So to my books

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<v Speaker 2>and my information feel is not in any of the

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<v Speaker 2>tracks you mentioned pretty Head and them and then or

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<v Speaker 2>talk more talk and then and percussion percussion. Uh. You

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<v Speaker 2>know this this kind of rhythms that lie behind uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that Jerry Morotto programmed the lindrum on Footprints,

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<v Speaker 2>another another track on the album, so I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was it was the one who was programming the lindrum.

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<v Speaker 2>And also Edie Rainer did a lot of programming. I

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<v Speaker 2>had the chance to interview Edi Uriner quite recently last month,

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<v Speaker 2>and so he mentioned him programming uh lindrums and emulator uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Throughout the album it was called in to do a

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<v Speaker 2>specifically dis kind of work and adding a piano parts

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<v Speaker 2>synthesizer choosing different sounds soon rich the album. So but anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>anything could be Eric because McCartney's discography is full of

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<v Speaker 2>details that we don't really know. So that's the official thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Because now I'm sorry to feel like I'm crazy. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hearing things that I'm not here now. I mean no,

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<v Speaker 1>I listened to so many of Phil Collins's music that

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I'm tuned into it. But maybe it's like

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<v Speaker 1>confirmation bias. I think I'm hearing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, anything could be. I mean, Paul said said this

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<v Speaker 2>thing at the time, that he involved Phil Collins only

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<v Speaker 2>on one track because he didn't want to rely too

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<v Speaker 2>much on such a big name, blah blah, but that

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<v Speaker 2>that could be an indirect, indirect confirmation that Phil is

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<v Speaker 2>hidden somewhere and they didn't credit it in him here

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<v Speaker 2>and there. Anything could be. Two or three years before

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<v Speaker 2>Press to Play, there was a couple of articles in

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<v Speaker 2>the press saying that Phil Collins was supposed to joining

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<v Speaker 2>to be joining Wings, I mean, because they they knew

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<v Speaker 2>that we were without a drummer. Again, I was ninety

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<v Speaker 2>eighty one or ninety eighty two, so at the time

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<v Speaker 2>I think that even they discussed it with with George

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<v Speaker 2>Martin about involving Phil Collins, blah blah. But there was

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<v Speaker 2>another interesting thing that I was able to discover, and

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<v Speaker 2>you find it in the book without spoiling too much. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>but since we're talked about Phil, I think it's interesting

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<v Speaker 2>to mention this. And at some point Phil said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Paul still still got it. I mean, this is it's

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<v Speaker 2>a great artist and I would like to produce him.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was it was suggesting himself kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>producer for Paul McCarthy and it didn't happen. But I

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<v Speaker 2>mean there was something definitely behind the scenes and contexts

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<v Speaker 2>between Paul and Phil Collins, because I mean Phil Collins

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<v Speaker 2>around mid eighties, Phil Collins was the drummer. You we

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<v Speaker 2>all know that. Yeah, So to come back to your question,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it could be that there's some hidden credits

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<v Speaker 2>here and there. Listen to the

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