Speaker 1: Hello ladies, gentlemen, welcome back to the gimmick, which I
also realized. I gotta find an opening video for this.
That's gonna be my goal. Wait put two twenty five
so that I've messed that up, So that'll be my
you know, I'll for the WrestleMania show. I will have
something made one way along another. But yes, this is
the monthly wrestling show. I am the Canadian Nightmare tras Snail,
and I'm joined by man who's wearing some stuff I
don't like to see is a hat. So now, don't
get me wrong, I am not a Chiefs hater, but
I am a Bills fan. So that's where we are.
We're at a different indifference coming up in the next
twenty four hours.
Speaker 2: So it's coldon Kansas City and I needed a hoodie.
But yes, no, I'm repping the hometown. So repping the hometown,
I'm also Kevin Owen's T shirt guy. I'm here to
supply you with all the great T shirts for all
the petty that you could ever need.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he needs to just have a whole line of
all that sort of stuff. But do you think before
I introduced the other man, do you think uh, are
Chiefs winning it? Do you think they're like not not
take out your fan? And of course you want the win,
but do you think it's happening tomorrow?
Speaker 2: Statistically yes, but also statistically it will give me a
mild cardiac arress right beforehand. Yes, that thirteen second game,
the famous one. I remember being in my living room
and my Apple Watch going off to alert me that
my heart rate was unusual.
Speaker 1: To look at. Yeah, so David might not make it
to the Royal roombo episode next week, and we'll see.
Because I'm I'm a Bills fan, but they're not my team.
My team's the Packers, which you know, good rittens, they're gone.
And then my other team is a Commander. So I'm
hoping for a good super Bowl. But I guess this
sh show you. Oh what's he got there? Oh? God?
So for listeners, he's pulling up. It looks like he
has a Kansas City raymis stereo style looch door mas
So don't I don't even have that. I have a
Actually I do have one. I think I think I
got ripped, but I had a loot Store Packers one.
But yeah, best luck to you. Should be a good game.
I will say that the game that had a couple
of years ago in the FC Championship, to me is
still the greatest game I've ever seen in my life.
So hopefully the way it's a good game. But go
Bills and uh, I'm joined by someone who also has
some good live show charisma, but the man the chair himself.
Speaker 3: Hello, Yeah, this isn't my this isn't my my final
background here and this is a this is one of
the default ones I think on on here, but it
worked for it links up to my other one I have.
I'll say that for we when we talk aw.
Speaker 2: Time is right.
Speaker 1: Yeahs has backgrounds on top of backgrounds going on right now.
Speaker 3: So I'll have to do at WrestleMania, I'll do a
post of every single one I've used over the whole year.
Speaker 1: There WrestleMania, our year ender there. But yeah, so this
one we're gonna be doing it. We've got lots to
talk about, but probably still be more of a mini
one because we're just gonna do our last draft shuffle,
shake up, what don't call it review, certain nights may
event and then row row predictions and then the ending
is just gonna be like a miscellaneous because like aw's
next what is their next show? It's is a revolution?
What's the mart show? I can't remember. Yeah, like they
don't even got a card. We're just all like just
waiting for to see if Darby survives Mount Everest or not.
But so the back hass just gonna be a bunch
of like anything we want to talk about we'll throw
out there. So a bit of a smaller show also
because we did one two weeks ago and then next
week we will I think we've already says but if not,
we're gonna do a post rumble show. I think it's
gonna be similar, so if anyone watches live, but if not,
it should be on the feed the morning after. We'll
be doing a post rumble one because those are always
bigger ones. We try the bigger ones to do right
after the fact. So yeah, we'll be doing that, which
I can't wait to see for that draft wise, to
see if you get some big points there. And then
anything else, but same thing. Next week will probably be
like a more just one show based because the Royal
rum will take up most of the news. But you know,
if anything breaks, you know, if something happens, if aw.
Speaker 3: Like we didn't do. We weren't doing it yet, I think,
but like if that, like the CM punk injury thing,
it happened like because you didn't do a show them,
but that was something like that definitely affected stuff and
we could have so you never know what could happen,
is what you're saying exactly.
Speaker 1: There's always room for a quick emergency podcast. I'd look
out for those, because you know, with WrestleMania season you'll
probably can't. We're still doing once a month, but as
like even this month there's two WrestleMania season will usually
cause for some other stuff to get put out there.
So I want to do the draft shake up first
because we usually do this because this way we can
talk about the whole shows and not want to hold
back any cards or everything like that, because there's certain
things I'm raw and smacked and we'll talk about maybe
some new people. So S pubs, can you give us
the I give us the current points status.
Speaker 3: To show, right, Yeah, that's what I was gonna do.
I was thinking of putting those in just in case anyone.
I don't know if there's really that many that we
have drafted, but if I like, if I have points
just so I don't. That's like if someone drop one
of these people and there's only like four matches, so
I can.
Speaker 1: Do this in like okay, so I will. We'll kill
some time David and I will read off our rosters.
So Dave, I'll go first with Pulp your roster there,
So current Lenfield don't know. What we have is the
draft system. We're all of us have ten superstars and
a job or I'll explain that a second, and we
get points based on wins, title losses, main events, all
that sort of stuff. We have a whole brack and
we've been doing it since this podcast started, and this
is our last time to do a shake up because
our draft ends at elimination Chamber and then we redraft
right before WrestleMania because also the podcast last year started
before WrestleMania, so that's where the Chamber Rummel are really
the two. Obviously there's you know, Saturday Nights of Events
stuff like that happens, but those are the next two big,
big ones. So currently on my roster is my number
one draft pick, Ria Ripley, seph Rons, Jay Cargill, Tiffany Strand,
Jay Usso, Brown, Breaker Live Morgan, Jimmy Usso Naya Jack
Soul So Cola, and then for my jobber pick is
Elt and Prince. The jobber pick is you get points
for lose them losing, and if they win, you get
negative points. Yeah, so that's the reverse of that. So
that's who I got, David, who do you got on
your roster right now?
Speaker 2: I have the ring Generals min number one pick. I
have Bianca bel Air, Dama, Damian Priest, Tomatonga, uh the
O T. C. Roman reigns l a night. Yeah, Jacob
Fatu was incredible tonight, Finn Balor, Knakamura, Kobe Kingston, and
as my job er, I have the King of Heat himself,
Dominic Mysterio.
Speaker 1: You don't get bonus points for each time Jacob two
does the best moods old ever gimmick. You know, it's
just just just one, just one. But okay, who do
you got on your team? Over there?
Speaker 3: Wait? I messed up my whole my whole.
Speaker 1: Screen here, God damn it, man, we're live. But wow, Yeah,
I was gonna say for the rumble, I would have
are we people if we superstar main events, we get
main event points? Are we throwing them out for the
rumble Because there's.
Speaker 3: Like throwing in It's like it's only the bonus points
are only for one. Yeah, we established that with the
money in the bank because we had to think like
everyone and in the like that sixth Man tag. So
it was like we're like one hundred and twenty bonus points.
Speaker 2: And I kept having their go against Damian Price, which
is just easy points for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so we'll do that. So one, So I'll
go over my roster here. Okay.
Speaker 3: So I have Cody Rhodes, Bronson Reed, Bailey, Alex Shelley,
Sammy Zane, Johnny Gargano, Eo Sky, Naomi John Cina, Chelsea
Green and my job is to Zowa.
Speaker 1: Good old Zawa geez. So did we I know we
do this every time? Did we do? Do we do
a wheel every different time?
Speaker 3: Or did we end up going in the same order?
Speaker 1: Okay? So what it's the order?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: What is me?
Speaker 3: Travis David?
Speaker 1: Okay? So, s bubs, do you have any drops you're doing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm dropping Bronson Reid because you know, injury and
she's not going back probably after WrestleMania, and I'm gonna
drop Chelsea Green and.
Speaker 1: Also whoa why Chelsea you smell a loss coming soon.
Speaker 3: Not really, it's just like this happened to me early
in the draft when you have a lot of champions,
like they get the defensive but weekly matches not so much.
And then it's like the only thing, yes, because that
was at the like the start of the draft, I
had like every single champion after Mania, but then I
was getting like barely any points because they would only defend.
I mean, I was getting like the like the main
event points all the time, but they wouldn't defend like
on TV. So that's where I lost, Like I'd blank
like the whole like first couple of months. So that's
why I'm dropping Chelsea, And I can look at the
There was one other on that list that I was
thinking of dropping, but then I was looking at the
points and it's like they're very consistent here, so oh yeah,
and I'm dropping. You know, obviously, if someone wants wants
to Zoo, they can pick him out there.
Speaker 1: He hasn't been on TV for a bit, so I
don't know, so I can now I can't remember did
we do that you do pick or we all do
our drops first and then we go back to you
for pick.
Speaker 3: I think we all do our drop so we know
what's on the menu here case so it's me next.
Speaker 1: This is tough because there's there's two people. I mean,
I'm I'm okay, I'm gonna drop Ellen Prince that I'll
make it easy for job. I might pick him up
in case my Jober gets picked again. If someone picks
the job where I'm thinking so, then Elson Prince might
get back on my board, but I'm gonna drop him.
And I have two that I have no problem saying
who they are Jade because I haven't This is not
me official as me just in my head going what
I'm gonna do. But with Jade, I'm stuck because I
know we hear like, oh, she's training and whatnot, but
it's just like how many matches is she really gonna wrestle?
Is she gonna go back to the tag team? Seeing
like she's just such a like an unknown variable. We'll
talk about the Beyonca bell Air rumor later like do
they just do something where like Bianca Stawa's being Tag
Champion it's just hert Naomi. I really don't know. So
you know, as a matter of fact, I am gonna drop Jade.
Same thing if my pick that I might one of
my picks get picked that I want. I'll just take
her back, or I'll take one of your guys is.
But I'll drop Jade for sure, and I'm not going to.
But I almost dropped Live Morgan just because, like I'm
worried post Rumble, you know the meme of you know,
the tag rope and everything like that. And here's the
thing where I got talked. I talk myself out of it,
though I still think on weekly TV she'll be wrestling
and stuff, like how she just ramly appeared on Smackdon
this week to be in a tag and even her
and Raquel can do more like tag team they'll put
maybe they might even be the team that beats like
the Naomi Beyonca Jade combo right of like hey, we
need we won't live to have a spot like because
I've said this before where it doesn't matter what people
feel about Live. She's on the fucking Rumble poster. She's
one of the Netflix icons, Like I don't think tripley
just like she beat Ria and that's it. Like I
think he legitimately wants her still and she raised her
stock big time. I think there's still lots of people
that offer her. Fans of her, but in the mainstream
like her. So that's why I could say, even if
they do that Wyatt tag thing of like, hey, just
put the tag belts on Raquel and Live because like
just to give him some heat, you know. So I'm
gonna keep Live for now, but I did. I tussled
with dropping her, so right now, just gonna drop Jade
and go drop Elton for now and go from there.
Same thing with Solo, I'm worried about, but I'm keeping it.
Keeps Solo.
Speaker 3: I'll tell since you talked about, like the one I
was considering dropping was Bailey just because of the whole
like NXT stuff. Maybe she's wrestling more on there, but
also she was on every single show like this past
two weeks, so it's like even if she's on an
Steel like, she'll still be doing matches on Raw and
SmackDown every week.
Speaker 1: So it's the work horse, you know, and this fucking
transfer window everybody's everwhere, so who knows. It's like it
was like Bailey a couple of weeks ago was like, Oh,
looks like she's coming Raw and then she's like on
SmackDown for like three weeks in say anything, it's like, oh,
she's a Fisher Raw superstar, so it's like okay, like
can she transfer back to SmackDown. I don't even like
on the Saturday that Tag show with like reit like
all these random people. I know, but I think that's
just WrestleMania though, right, Like you could just have anybody like, hey,
we need someone to fill in on side.
Speaker 3: I think that's what the transfer window is like, just
to have like an in story excuse for what all happens.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely so, all right, David, who are you dropping?
If any?
Speaker 2: I am dropping uh Tomatanga and I am dropping a koffee?
Speaker 1: Why Tom Wow? I'm surprised by both your picks unless
you're gonna put coffee else. You don't think New Day
is gonna get like some big shine come up with
all this heat, you know.
Speaker 3: I don't think they had big e versus handicap match
at Wrestlingia after your returns next week in the Rumble.
Speaker 2: I don't outside of some of the stuff that Di
Wi has been doing, I really don't think the Tag
team have been getting much to do. I also don't
see Kofe getting a lot of wins with this. I
think if they continue with this new day, heat will
be split between him and Woods a lot with some
single matches, a couple of tag teams. So it's just
more backing up each other being the bad guy, but
splitting that time.
Speaker 1: So okay, I think he just wrestled on wrestles, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there there's also some better options out there
that if anyone's got to go, it's it's not gonna
be Goom there because even though he doesn't wrestle as
much as I want, he's freaking gooon there. It's not
gonna be l a night because La Knight's on every
small down all the time. After what Jacob Fatu just did.
Not doing that, Ben Baller is getting his TV time,
Knock Himour is getting his TV time.
Speaker 1: TV time though, Whi's the last one we saw Knockimore
on Like he's I'm surprised you're not dropping him because
I feel like the next time we see him's gonna
drop that title. But I guess he's at the rumble.
He's at the rumbles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they say, if I had more spots, I
would pick up, like I'm just saying now, like I'm
not gonna take him just because I only have two
spots and there's others I like, but if I had
like three or four, I would probably take them.
Speaker 2: And tom is one of those people that if the
people that I have on my want list are gone,
I can just go back to Toma Tongua. Like I
there's I have enough people on my want list that
it's probably not going to happen. But if it comes
down to that, he's someone that I can pick back up.
Speaker 1: You hear that Tomat's not over for you. There you go,
there's a chance to be on David's side once again.
But uh, all right, so I suppose you have three
drops and we'll go in order and stuff. But so
what is your first uh your first new draft pick? Here?
Speaker 3: Uh? I had a list and I think I deleted
it now and I can't.
Speaker 1: See it too. I had a list a couple of
weeks ago, and I'm like, I can't find it anywhere now.
Speaker 3: Just wait, Oh I can, I can version history? Yes, Okay,
I found it. I found it on my on my Excel. Okay.
I think I'm gonna do my ultimate plan, which is
cover all my bases, and so I'm picking Charlotte Flair.
Speaker 2: As my dam yeah, went off my list.
Speaker 3: This is a full circle. You know. I believe she
was gonna come back in like a month or something
at the start of last year, and I drafted her
and she cost me points for like half the year.
But I'm picking her back now and I'm co and
all my bases on impossible rumble winds here.
Speaker 1: I want to just re injure yourself right after. You know, Okay,
I I think I'm gonna go with the s Bubb's
method slash magic. Let me just do a quick search here. No,
I'm not gonna do that because I see David has
Roman reigns and I completely forgot about that. So David,
you enjoy that pick. So I'm gonna pick like now
that you travel cheap because I forgot. I think you
didn't have him originally, right. You picked him up later
on in the year.
Speaker 2: I picked him up later, knowing that that they were
going to going into this season. I picked him up early,
knowing that he may not wrestle a lot, but after
that he's going to come in during WrestleMania season.
Speaker 1: And by someone might take him. I'm taking I did not.
I don't mean to say Panta yet let me let
mee you let me change. I let you change. I
he was my second and sorry because I says because
what happened was I.
Speaker 3: Saw the Chin and the Naomi thing. I just like
just said it, and then I was like, yep, I'm
going with.
Speaker 1: It, So Pents maybe out there. So I had my
list of three and then I deleted Punk. That's what
I'm picking to seeing Punk Punk. It's the worst scat off.
I had Roman, so that's where you can see Roman,
Punk and Penta. And then I saw David Roming Oh,
and I deleted both Roman and Punk at the same time,
and I said pent I'm like, why is it just
Penta alone there? But I'm picking Punk because I don't
think he's winning the rumble. But I think this is
a time where there could be a couple more raw matches,
like I think I don't think he'll wrestle too much,
but maybe a tag or something else. Obviously he'll be
in the Rumble. I think he could be in Chamber,
and I think there's a good spot we'll talk about
later with Ri and Bianca if that happened, But there's
a good chance if Roman and Punk happens, it's gonna
main event Mania, and you know, give me those main
event points. So that's where I'm picking mister Phil Brooks.
Speaker 3: So Roman happened to me yesterday because I was watching
SmackDown and Priests was there and I was like, wow,
no one has pre That's that's gonna be like my
number one pick here. And then I.
Speaker 2: You know, mister didn't like Infinity selling.
Speaker 1: All right, David, who you actually get in Now we've
talked about people you already have.
Speaker 2: So well, since he just got brought up, I'm taking Penta'.
Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna wrestle a lot on RAW.
Speaker 2: I think for wrestling legitimately, my once list the top
three were Charlotte, Punk Pina in that order was.
Speaker 3: Up there for me. He was like, if you didn't
pick them, I was gonna take him that.
Speaker 1: And he's somebody that easily like he could beat Knocking
More or I only need be brown Breaker. But if
they did the multi mn Icy title, you could have
him win the match and not beat Braun. Like I
don't know if they're gonna single strap him up, but
like we'll talk about him many talk about him now.
I guess it's just that the fact that they've done
such a good job at just making him an instant
star for anybody that was worried, always washed, or he
can't go like he used to, doesn't matter. He goes
to right amount. He has to save like every and
even then that Bucks match that they had a couple
of years ago still cach. It wasn't that long. Like
he can go and put out like a five star
class if he wants. But I think it's like save
that when you need to. I liked the Chad Gable
match a lot. The match with Pete Dunn was like
it was good on raw. I thought they.
Speaker 3: Had no Billy, just like we need a we need
a good worker in here, call up Pete Dunn and
put him in there. I thought it worked with the
you know, the finger snapping, it was like.
Speaker 2: They were saying that his whole thing was Pete Dun
still being it's still tired of being called butch. I'm like,
I don't think Penta has anything to do with that,
but okay, we can, we can go that route.
Speaker 1: I just I know where Pete Dunn's gonna be. I
just missed when they did bring him in he had
that UK run. It was great. But he's gonna get
yeah yeah, and he's gonna be a trainer later on.
So like Penta, I think they've just done such a
great job. I think there's that stat that came up
today that where he's like the sale like for merch,
he was like two three and five.
Speaker 3: The merch was like it was all Penta and Roman
like those are. It was like all Penta stuff, the
OTC shirt and like one more thing and that.
Speaker 1: Was And that's the thing where just like even that,
like I I when I say I'm not like a
big Penta fan, I mean like I am a big
fan of Penta, but I'm not like always in my
top ten currently nothing like that. But even when I
saw that hoodie, it's like, man, like I don't want
to get that hoodie looked slick and that's just good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's like like the skull with nothing nothing else.
Speaker 1: And because we've seen we've seen this a lot from
both companies, w W n AW go through just phases
where man, all the merche just sucks. They just find
a logo, slap it on and that's it. But like
he has a cool vibe. He gave him the fucking
cool like sprinkler roll.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, apparently I looked it up. That's like it's
like something they use that, like it's like a Mexican
related like a type of firework or something. So that's
why they but it works with like a great effect,
like when they use that, and I wasn't expecting it,
like it was a it's great and it works with
the whole spiral thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he looks like he's an endgame coming at a
doctor Strange portal or something like that. But no, they've
just done such a great job.
Speaker 2: Of they've already got his mask on sale.
Speaker 3: Yeah well yeah they had before.
Speaker 1: Day zero, you know. But like that's the thing where
it's it's like ww many times is an aura company
and they've hit that. So that's where it's like, sure, Pent,
it might not be the best in the world or
something like that, but the thing is, that's why I
could legitimately if somewhere tell me, hey, Pent isn't win
the Icy title WrestleMania, I wouldn't say it's unbelievable, say, oh,
I could absolutely see that even if it's a couple
month run, because it's just like.
Speaker 3: Like even with the with the stuff he can do
and he's getting sober, Like when they bring Ray Phoenix,
it's like he's his brother and he can do even
crazier moves than that.
Speaker 1: It's like and like, to me, this is something I
want more Like aw they do, but that's where it's
like more in WW. As far as that first promo
he cut out for the match, that was, I know
that started the whole scuttle butt of some towns mad.
Some's not like I don't believe anything. I think the
town's fine, but like it did not feel scripted in
the best way possible legitally, just felt he was coming
for the heart. He was like stumbling his words, but
like in a good way. Like it felt like, man,
I'm finally here. And that's like that was. I feel
like the look and presentation that was one thing. But
when he cut that promo it felt so emotional. I
fel like there's so many people that are.
Speaker 3: Like the whole daughter thing there. Yeah, And there was
even the backs that they posted like a behind the
scenes video of like of like before and after his
first match and stuff, and he was talking with Ray
and he was talking about the daughter and he was
like she's the only one in my family who who
who understands this stuff and apparently yeah she's she's like
so she was like a kid, she's want to be
like a wrestler. And there's photos of her like in
the full like outfit and mask, yeah and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I just think they did a great job
of just like I won't say uber babyface, but uber
mini baby face. And I'm excited to see where they
do so like but like back to your pick, at
least they like, I think he's gonna be working a lot,
and I think I helpe that. I'm glad that they
didn't pay him with Ray right away, and I hope
he is there is some sort of multi man. I
would prefer the US title because I would like Braun
to maybe have a solos match because we'll tell aout
brown later. He just keeps killing it. But like penta man,
like he should get a WrestleMania entrance, not a fucking
SmackDown WrestleMania. Don't give me that bullshit, like like it's
he's doing good stuff right now.
Speaker 3: So okay, so back to me now, And I'm happy
no one took him because I dropped him like before
or not today, but in the past, and it's like
I kind of want him back. So I'm taking Drough.
I'm taking Drew McIntyre.
Speaker 2: I have literally gone my one throughfore. Oh my wish list.
Speaker 1: I forgot about your McIntyre. I literally forgotten about him.
Speaker 3: I dropped him because there was the whole thing. He
was supposed to be gone for a while, and then
like literally the week after we did the show, he
came back early and was just back because of the
whole Bronson Reid injury, Like it was supposed to be,
like he was supposed to continue like have a feud
with Seth and Sammy and stuff, but he was injured,
so they just brought back Drough like I think it
was like literally right after Survivor series. So yeah, I'm
taking I'm taking back my my boy Drew. And he's
definitely gonna be He's he's every week. He's gonna do tags.
Speaker 1: When Black Match coming up at Mania, right, that's.
Speaker 3: Not that's Damien malak Us title match right there.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm not I have someone I'd like to
drop and pick, but I'm not gonna do that in
the honor of being honorable until everyone's picked because I imagine
someone might have him, but I forgot him. So I'm
just gonna go with my job or for now, I said,
dropped down to pitt Prints. I'm gonna get jad McDonnell
in there because I know him and Dom they're not
winning those tag title matches, and I just feel like
at least he's a little more active like Ellen Prince
and there I got like a couple losses at least recently.
Speaker 3: But you guys, since since like week twenty six, I
don't remember when that was, but like maybe like twenty weeks.
In twenty weeks, you've gotten four points from Elton.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I felt like last year before we did
the draft, they were on SmackDown or just losing a
lot more. I don't know. So I'm gonna pick Jade
because I feel like he'll lose with Dom coming up.
I know he's gonna lose the rumble, so that's like
an easy point for me there and I I don't
know which direction they're going. I feel like they might
try to break up the judgment day again, and I.
Speaker 3: Feel like he'll just sick Finn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well him Finn doing on mini program like it's
like he trained him and because I just feel.
Speaker 3: Like that before Wrestlingania, right, there were.
Speaker 1: Those rumors of like oh w W twenty twenty five,
they're very serious about pushing Finn balor he you can't
to me, he is dead.
Speaker 3: As until he's like could get a he could get
Malachi back, and he's like, yeah, Ben, sorry Malchi winning
the title off Cody. Uh.
Speaker 1: Finn as a heel is d o A. He's lost
to everybody, He's not won anything big. It's over. You
need to turn him face and make them the demon
right away, and that will make everyone forget it. Like
you how come Finn's not seeing these pent to sales
being like fuck I should I should be making the money,
Like that's where they should turn him back. And I
think if you turn him back, he's a couple of
matches with a DOM, a couple of matches with Finn,
or a couple match with JD, and then maybe down
the line you can tease like the original three of
like Finn, Damian and riagain back at some point like
way down the line, but you pick JD just I
think he'll kill the.
Speaker 3: New like every three year Shield reunion.
Speaker 1: And like I could see JD. He's like another good
like Penta person to put over. Right, I could easily
see like him calling him out. They already gave him
Chad Gable the whole.
Speaker 3: Like, I think there is the next yeah Penta match
which also leads like pen their Penta in the future.
That should be.
Speaker 1: There's your chamber match, see what happens there. But yeah,
so I'm picking JD in the jobber spot, So David,
it goes to you, all.
Speaker 2: Right, So I am, uh the person that I dropped
in order to add Kobe, I'm going back to. So
I'm gonna go Kevin Owens.
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. Yeah, good pick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you should be lips of a possible one there.
Speaker 1: Now for the record books, I will say we're not
going to count him losing the Rumble as a title loss,
not an official recognized w championship, so I don't worry
when he los the wing Hegel Belt, we won't. We
won't ding on that. So yeah, he'll be in a
bunch of stuff. I could also see him being a
guy that he's gonna do the classic spot where they'll
lose the ladder match, but then he'll still be in
like the men Rumble later on somehow, and.
Speaker 2: He'll be involved with the elimination chamber.
Speaker 3: He might if Sammy doesn't help him win the ladder match,
then he'll come and eliminate Sammy or like package pile
of drugs Sammy and the Rumble or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which, like I love it because I saw there,
which we'll talk about pushes later of online versus real life.
I love that people are trying to push for Ko
to beat Kevin ring at Sammy and Kaomania. It ain't
it ain't happening. I do agree with people that Cody
and Sina like doesn't need the title that is like
a legend versus legend sort of deal match. I get it,
but I just don't see that.
Speaker 2: The indie wet dream is not happening at Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like it's great, I understand it, and it's great that
we're gonna likely get that again and on a bigger
stage this time more time. But it's that's that's not happening. People.
You gotta like, once seen it Cody happens. Then you
talk about Cody losing, but it's not only losing a rumble.
Speaker 2: Here, you know what, they probably wouldn't do it just
so Tony Kahan can't tweet out old Ring of Honor
footage during this because you know, he would start promoting
Honor Club and.
Speaker 1: Yes and everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a TNA TNA to themselves because they during
Impact they posted a Nathan Crazier in DNA match.
Speaker 1: That's good, alright, s bubs.
Speaker 3: Okay, so the only spot I have left this is
my job right here. So I'm going with someone, and
I'm picking Zoe Stark Okaion Collective.
Speaker 1: Yeah she's got a good drop kick though, you know,
so that's good. But geez, okay, that's fair. Yeah, they're
gonna they're gonna just keep on losing. That's just a
that that's that's a bathroom break sort of team. And
I don't mean because the women just made that team
and like bron Strouman, for me, here's a bathroom bring
Like that's a team that's like, man, I just don't care.
But all right, so I'm out of dropped stuff and everything.
And then David, did you did he have one more
than he has to pick?
Speaker 4: Here?
Speaker 1: All right? I suppose you have the updated total?
Speaker 5: Then uh, yes, okay, so i I'll start with dude
has four hundred twenty nine normal points with three hundred
and oh wait, three hundred thirty nine bonus points.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Uh. Travis has five hundred and fifty normal points with
two hundred and ninety nine bonus points. Okay, and I
have four hundred eighty two normal points with four hundred
forty eight bonus points.
Speaker 1: We're all really close, like you and me. Sps are
in the eight hundreds and Dave's in the seven hundred.
So really, all it takes is like a couple rumble spots.
It to a couple of title changes. It's actually especially
with these bigger ones, because Rumble didn't we.
Speaker 3: I have the I have the points. Yeah, so Rumble
Rumble or Chamber.
Speaker 1: Win is fifty okay, big points going up here.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And also for the Rumble points, we talk about
it like a couple of shows ago and I went
back and listened to remember what we said, and so
it says, so it's one point per elimination on any
of your picks. And also I came up with some
Royal Rumble lucky numbers, so I put I made a
wheel spin with one through thirty, and I picked five
spun five times for each of us. And so I
made it. So I'm gonna give each of us our numbers,
and if if your number wins in either the men's
or women's rumble, that's twenty five, so half. So it
doesn't have to be someone you even drafted, but if
you if one of them wins from that position. And
I made five, so it's not like it's guaranteed that
someone's gonna get the points because maybe, like in one
of those fIF there's fifteen spots that none of us
have that maybe someone wins from then we just don't get.
So yeah, it's I spun, did the classic wheel spin.
So I'll give the numbers here. So wait, let me
put them just to make it easier in like from
lowest to highest here. Okay, So David, you have number fifteen,
number seventeen, number twenty four, number twenty nine, and number thirty.
Speaker 1: Oh my, you got twenty nine and thirty.
Speaker 2: No, technically twenty eight is the lucky number, but I'll
take thirty.
Speaker 1: Is it twenty eight? Hours it twenty seven? I thought
it was the lucky number.
Speaker 3: I think it's twenty eight now.
Speaker 1: Damn it.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, Travis has three, eleven, twenty three, twenty five,
and twenty six, and I have eight, ten, sixteen, twenty two,
and twenty eight. Okay, so no number one, no twenty
three three.
Speaker 1: I may as well have number one. I got number three.
Miss is gonna come out number three.
Speaker 3: One from from three last year?
Speaker 1: Oh great, No one's winning from three again. Okay, we'll see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the nick spot.
Speaker 1: Yeah that is, yeah, but he's not tault this series nicknamed. Okay,
well that'll be fun.
Speaker 3: Any of those those winen either men's or women's. That's
twenty five points there. Yeah, so that'll be fun. Just
the hope on your h your numbers and cheer for
them knowing it.
Speaker 1: That would be a good one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and those like when it's the rumble time, like
I have them written down, so.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be watching. I'm gonna be curiously.
Speaker 3: Yeah I noticed. Yeah, we mostly got pretty pretty late ones,
which is good. Like we have all through from twenty
three to thirty. We have all them besides twenty seven.
Speaker 1: By twenty six like Joe Hendry or something for the
stupid just pop and I'm not gonna win.
Speaker 3: There's some there's some random ones like last year, number
twenty twenty eight was Ricochet. Oh yeah, it was like
it was it was the order was punk Ricochet then
drew like they put Rikoshet in there for like no
reason good and I think he got eliminated right away.
So you know, maybe that's always the n A of you, now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that's why. So all right, let's start off
with Saturay nights. Babe man. This is the second edition
of the relaunch. Overall, I liked it. I think I'm
in a tough spot with the show where it's like
a weird hybrid of like it's a TV show but
that's also pay per view and it's.
Speaker 3: Kind not as pl like for for points.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah, the points, Yeah that makes sense. Yeah,
for the watching it stuff because they're having like these
bigger matches, but just I think every match had a
commercial break in between other them maybe the opening, right,
I don't think we got one for the Actually we
did get one.
Speaker 3: All of them had all of them had one besides
the last one, which had like two breaks. I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's it's tough to kind of gauge and it's like.
Speaker 3: A I think this one was better formatted than the
first one, Like it had commercials, but it didn't feel
like everything was super like short or cut off. I
don't know. Like last one, it felt like they were
all trying to be like like longer matches that would
just like end this one, I felt like they were
more suited to the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and for me, it's tough when you got like,
I know, we gotta go back to Jesse, but like
I don't know, like I don't know if I need
Jesse here. I get why they do it, but it's
just that they go up there and he says some
stuff that they've piped him in everything like that. Absolutely
love what happened the Shamus Brown match, but the overall,
like I liked the show, but it's I don't think
it's a show I'm gonna remember in six months from now.
You know, it's sometimes what it reminds me of. It
feels like a like a Bigger House show where you'll
get like these big all these big matches, but you
know nothing's gonna happen. And now it's different with Chelsea
Green winning last time, because that was like a first title, right,
I am curious. I don't think have they announced the
next one of these? I don't think they have.
Speaker 3: The next one is way later because I think they
want to do like one per quarter, So they just
got this one like out the way. The next one
they're all on. If you want to remember, anytime there's
an AW pay per view, this is like the same
night or weekend. Oh, like they put it at the
same like I think, like next on around like double
or nothing, and then the one after that is the
same time as all in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So for me, it's just what I hope the
next time is. I hope there hit some title change,
is something very big. I know the Chao Package Pile
Driver happened on Saturay Nights Movement, but that was after
the show, right, So for me, I want to feel
that like I can't miss it because I don't think
it's this level. But I don't want it to get
to like AW Battle of Belts where it's like, Okay,
it's a bunch of big matches, but it's also riddled
with not riddle with commercial breaks, but just I have
a hard time get into much of the match. It's
different with RAW because well now it is different because
I don't get commercial, but even before it's like every match.
Speaker 3: Was and even matches who are like the since there's
a reduced commercials, Like if there's like a like a
nine minute match, it'll be like commercial like the like
the Damage Control versus Peer Fusion Collective, like that whole
match was just between commercials like and it was like
a ten minute ish match. So it just depends. Yeah,
with the Netflix stuff, they can have sort of matches
there in that way.
Speaker 1: What about you, David, what do you think of the
overall show before we go match my match here quickly?
Speaker 2: It's a show, it is very much. It reminds me
a lot of the Saudi shows, where you know nothing
major is going to happen. It's a moment in time
you get to enjoyed. There are some good matches, like
they're going through match I enjoyed things like that. The
Cody segment ended up being funner than I expected. But
other than that, it's just it's a moment in time.
You enjoy the nostalgia, enjoy the look of it. You
know you're going to see some legends of the past,
and that's about it. But there's nothing that really makes
me think to myself, this is going to be a
moment that is going to carry me into WrestleMania season.
This is going to be building up for something magical.
It's just an event.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be curious to see what because last one,
I don't think we were to talk about. Last one
did really good ratings, and I'll be curious to see
what this is. Not that I'm saying, well, it's gonna
a drop off, I'm just saying, like, I wonder if
was it a first time, like hey, wrestling on Sara,
Let's check it out and then you know, maybe we
don't have to or as it is because it's something different,
a special people.
Speaker 3: A lot of promotion. I don't know if this one
really did. It did well like ticket sales last but
I don't know if like TV numbers would really reflect though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what I'm curious too, Like if it does.
If it does do really well, then it's like, well
then that's working, and you just it's that meme of
W's on fire right now. It's like it doesn't matter
what they do right there, they're there. So opening match,
we had Riea Ripley versus Naya Jacks, which was a
very quick, thrown together program. This wasn't happening when we
did our last episode. I was like it literally now
makes sense they just needed something for Satday Nights May event,
and it makes sense. Re on there she is, you know,
if not the biggest star, she's in the top three.
But I think, like we talked about last episode, like
you can make a case that she is the top star.
With the GA right now and those pops she gets,
she just has everything going right in this match. They
obviously did the elimination chamer one last year. I think
it's for me. It was a little odd of curious
to see what they do with her and Tiffy because
I thought they're gonna go that way, so I kind
of thought they weren't gonna want Nya to lose before that.
So now I feel like I'm a little less invested
in the Nya Tiffy match when it happens, even though
I don't think Nya was gonna win, but still, like
I just thought it was found. It was an odd
pairing to hotshot Naya right over Raw get this title match,
and then now I imagine they're gonna act like it
never happened.
Speaker 3: I feel like this was to disprove, like the like
Reinever defense or title or stuff like that was like, oh,
she won it, and she's already in a feud and
she's gonna have a match, right Yeah, And.
Speaker 1: I guess that's the problem too, of like on Raw,
what heels would she have like PFC, like nothing's there,
like I don't like who do and then you can't
run her and live back for a while, Like who
else is on the Raw side, that's a heel that
you can use right now? That would be like a contender.
Obviously they're saving Becky I think for the rumble, right,
So it's just like, I don't know. I think Raw
needs some really top heels. I think we talked about
this last episode. I hope when Austin gets back, they
should have her a heel or maybe flipped a code
like somebody. I don't know. It's just like I don't
know who ria. So that's why I guess they had
Nay And I liked the match. I think I'm more
on the minority side of liking a little less than
everybody else. I get why people like the energy. It
reminded me of like Seth and Drew from Mania and
Monet and Mina from Wrestle Dynasty, where it's like starts
off very fast, fast based they're fighting. They're not like
Finisher spamming, but lots of big move spamming. That's the
psychology of like it's fast and furious. I liked it enough,
but also for me felt a little bit like a
match that had time cut. And I don't think it did,
but it felt like that where it's like, helly, you guys,
you had fifteen minutes, but now you got ten go.
And I think it was still good for what it was,
but just felt like a Ria showcase, which is fine,
do that for the TV show, but it's nothing like
I'm not gonna remember this match in two weeks other
than Ria's gear looked great and like ESA live show
charisma great, but like she's always doing that right and
you know, Nya continues to be, you know, better than
she was. But I thought, like, I think this was
a good hot opener, but for a match like I could,
it'd be like a three star for me, Like I
don't It's nothing like even Drew and set though maybe
he had something a little bit more different about it,
but uh, yes, I thought it was. It was fine.
It was fine to get Ri on TV.
Speaker 2: You know, yes, same here it was it was a
match it was you got the pop he started out
with it knowing that RHEO was going to make the
crowd rrupt. That was great, But yeah, they just needed
someone to fill that void. Because I'm looking at the
women's roster right now, and I'm looking at raw. There's
not any true contenders against Ria right now, especially since
you just gave Lyra Valkuria the Intercontinental Championships. Other than
Live Morgan and EO Sky, I don't think you really
have anyone who screams that I can be a contender.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you don't want to be EO in seven
minutes and Starry Night's Mad Event, you know, like and
not like is even you know, and Live I think
they have like a twelve minute match or something like
that last main event, and it was still like more
of a like a I think that this was I
guess it back and forth, but to me, this felt
like it is the real showcase one. And even when
you talk about Lyra though, it's like she still beat
a babyface, right, she didn't even beat a heel to
get that title, so same now we're talking about this,
it's like, is Lyra's contenders just gonna be the PFC
for the next few months, Like is that what we're
suck with is one baser match when Shana match and
that's not run back. Uh Sony is.
Speaker 3: Set to Paul Contraz after the EO match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and Alyra remember because that clipped. Yeah, the
whole powers.
Speaker 3: Like those are both like EO and Liar's like lowest
rated matches like ever something like that.
Speaker 1: So I think after WrestleMania, you gotta do a bunch
of shakeups or you have to start flipping some either
shake ups, flipping some people like Bailey.
Speaker 3: To fill twenty people from n next day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna call some people up, you know, like.
Speaker 3: Get rain NXC again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because even if like whether it's EO or Bianca,
which we'll probably talk about now after Spub's thoughts, it's
like both as of right now, EO and BEYONC are
baby faces, right, so even if they beat Ri at WrestleMania,
what are they doing on Raw? Like who do they
have to fight? That's why maybe maybe we're gonna get
a heel EO or heal Bionca. But I don't think
they should turn ey of them really, because like they're
both hot with the.
Speaker 3: They like like trivile H had just been waiting for
the perfect moment for people to like set face versus
face matches, because that's what this whole maybe it's gonna
be if you're doing like Roman Pan Cody Sina like
like versus EO or Bianca like he was just waiting
for the time, slowly slowly feeding it to people until
they they accept the face versus face.
Speaker 1: I'm fine that because there's so many people that say
that doesn't work. Even though there's people from the past,
like thirty years that will tell you show Michael's an
Undertaker was like the best wrestling match of all time.
It's like, well, that was a fucking face versus face match, Dog, Like,
what are you talking about here? I think heel versus
heels the tougher one to pull off a faces face
like to that's an easy.
Speaker 3: That's just you don't know, you don't know who to
cheer for, but yeah, face face is just cheer both
of them.
Speaker 1: And the thing with face vers face that's when you'd
also get moments where someone could turn heel because someone
might go like, we're gonna start booing this guy, and
then you're like, like, why you booing me or girl.
Speaker 3: Like that was like the Cody and Punk end of
the Rumble where the facers states, but then he did
like the pedigree and he was like I'm not losing
the Dusties kid, Yeah, and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get to have someone kind of play a
heel for maybe like a little bit and then like
flip right then the day after.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's also fun to do if you just
have someone doing that for like one match, Like I'd
love to see, like if it's Cody Cina, like Cody
do the the heel for one I.
Speaker 1: Would Yeah, I'd love to see him tap into that
like final aw promo where he's like on the latter
he's all shitty and like because he I think he
definitely would. It's the same like the same way The
Rock did with Hogan back in the day when they Ham
and Hogan in eighteen they started a boo. Rock was
so do good dude like that the little neck twinges
like look like he looked like bug eye, Like what
do you mean? Like yeah, And I think Cody would
nail that because I do think people are gonna pick
Scena because it's like a bit more nostalgic, right, it's
the last time. So I think if you tell me
percentage wise, I could see you going like sixty seventy
Sena and Cody gets to do that stuff and then
either they can like oh whatever was in the moment, Man,
you know you're the best, or fuck who knows? Maybe
Rock yeah the Hug you know, like, who knows? But
I suppose what do you think about Rha and I
I think you were more positive on it than me
and David.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was a really fun match, just
like a fast paced sprint, which I always like, like you were
talking about Drew and Steph like I do like those
finish your spam type type matches.
Speaker 1: W tule Era. That was every match just man wrestled.
They did it once, They did it once with him
and seen.
Speaker 3: The people, the people, the one people like is the
the Goldberg.
Speaker 1: It was their live because everyone was ready to show
them match and they did it and they was like, wow,
that was so much fun. And then after that, Brock
just did that for the next three years over and
over and over, except I think he had like one
random match with A J and Daniel Brian or was
like okay, a little different.
Speaker 2: But the guys he respected and knew he could be
able to go but also be safe with He'd let
him do that. So with the AJ with Daniel Bryant,
but everyone else, everyone else, it was just hit R two,
you know, go ahead, hit your finisher and it was over.
And the hymn versus Roman where it's five F fives
six Romans finishers just I mean.
Speaker 1: Their second wrestle media match, the five. I hate that
they've had three, but their second one was just awful.
I think there's actually the third one was bad too,
and it was even though it was the COVID time
his one where they're like crowned Drew, that was really
bad because like I think it starts with Drew hidden
the claymore and then like Brock kits F five immediately,
and it's just that I think.
Speaker 3: That has it has is Drew kicking out of the
F five at like one with no crowd.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's like there's no point, yeah, yeah, oh, continue
getting more on.
Speaker 3: Riha and I either not really no, I thought, yeah,
like I said, just the Bunlow matchter and it's like
Rhea is just like when you haven't seen her wrestle
for like a long time, it's just like she's just great,
like oh yeah, like just seeing her wrestle and all
the stuff she can do. And I said, like, uh,
I post on her. I forget where I posted it exactly,
but it's like it's fun seeing her do the move
she doesn't get to do on like anyone when she's
faced denial because it's just the the size can like
hold her up for those moves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the only thing that got awkward was she was
trying to go for that eradicate her submission and they
were just not working together, which was like that I
thought that was bold, and I thought it was bold
for her to start naya on her back. I feel
like they should just had an eye on her stomach
and then do it. But that was the only kind
of like messy spot. But on that it was like,
you know, a good enough time, you know, and I
got some splashes in there and the cocky heel loses.
But yeah, I'll never ever subscribe to people that talk
about Riha not being in the ring and stuff. It's like, no,
there's a litany of matches that can show you like, no,
she can go again. Look at to me. Both times
her and Charlotte wrestled WrestleMania. They stole the show. You
could argue her and Becky did that or almost did
that last year, like when it's on Bright it's just
because she's so good at the like the character stuff,
I think people kind of forget about. I feel like
it's I'm not saying this because the raw Netflix thing,
but it is kind of similar to Undertaker, where he
was always just about like, oh, the dead Man, but
when he needed to put on a grain and I
don't think don't get me wrong, I think Lee Ripley
is a better wrestler than Mark Callaway is, but when
an Undertaker need to go, he goes. It's the same
way as Rhea. So uh, speaking of going, we had
Brown Breaker versus Seamus Shamous trying to be that Grand
Slam champion. They said he went for it for the
tenth time. He lost it again unless you ask Jesse
the Body, who was my favorite bit of the night
because I subscribed to the fact that I don't think
he was watching the monitors. I think he is watching
the ring. So at one point in the match, they
do the classic foot goes on the rope and Jesse
and my favorite thing is that they go to the
three men boof shot and he's saying that Cole is
trying so hard not to laugh, like he's just looking
like like what do I do? Like I would love
to hear what they're saying in Cole's ear right now,
But so.
Speaker 3: That was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or they're telling Cole like, oh was it the
three like they're rimmed. I don't know. I like Jesse
Moore in those I think the main event he like,
I don't know if he has the right energy for
the main event stuff.
Speaker 3: I like that they put him on on this match, like.
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, yeah, it's a bit more fun, but no,
this was another great one. I think I have a
hot take that, Like I I'm not gonna say he's
the best, but I don't know if Braun Breaker can
really have a bad match with anybody. S Pubs is
more affiliated with him because he saw more of his
NXT stuff. But I just feel like if you put
a giant with him, you put a bra Shamus, you
put a technical w restaurant Lodwood, you put like a
high flyer. Braun is having like I.
Speaker 3: Feel like war like really his his only problem And
this is like when I started watching, he was already
past this, but like looking back at like that like
two point zero era. Though, the problem people had with
him was just like his character when he was like
the most generic baby face of all. Yeah, I'm like people,
it was like the Roman thing. Like it was like
you watched his matches even then, like in his first
couple of matches and he was good, but it was
just like he was literally like like big dog Romans,
like the great character they turn them. But luckily they
did what they didn't do in a row, which is
like turn them hell only like one year two years
in and then since then he's just had a and
even when he's a heel, he can still do like
he can do comedy, he can do serious stuff like
he can do he can do it all and have
good matches in between all that.
Speaker 2: I will say this, and Travis will probably be able
to agree because he saw this era. Bron Breaker is
what w W hoped Goldberg would be when they brought
him in.
Speaker 1: Absolutely what they wish he could be. And to me,
he has the vibe of Goldberg and I don't want
to make this comparison, but he feels way more like O.
Two oh three brock Lesnar is what he feels like
with a personality though, And because Brock was just having
he did his like the year of like he's going
to destroy the Hearties and Spike Dougley. But then he
started to put on these bangers, like to me, Braun like,
if we're gonna make a top ten of best workers
right now, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I
would put him in there because I don't think this
guy can have a bad match with anybody. He's so talented.
Each match there's something memorable. And when he made his entrance,
they had an or of like he did like his
little taunt thing. But then he like came through the smoke.
He looked like the fucking terminator. He looked so badass,
and like I like, I've never been like, oh I
love Bron Braker, but now I'm like I love Ron Braker,
like he's done enough where I just like because even
this time, I was like, Okay, I know we've seen
him shamsus before, but do we need this? But it
was everything from the or and I just clicked in
my mind of this dude's not had a bad match,
and like I think that in the next I don't
know year because I don't know their plans, but we
pitched Drew Drew'd be good one. I also would not
be mad if seen a beat Cody and SummerSlam was
Bron winning came ring and him beating Scene, and I
just because I.
Speaker 3: Feel like I think at some point that like Ron
would beat Scene. I can't remember when, but to possibilities.
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where back in the day,
the Icy title used to be like the number one
contendership in a way, right, and they're times where it's like, Okay,
Brett's outgrown this, let's push him up, Sean's outgrown this.
I think we're only a couple months away from Braun
already feeling like he's outgrown the Icy title, like he
needs to be with the big boys now. And he's
just like he's fucking so good. And this match I
thought was tons of fun. That spear Shame is jumping
off the steps him and the spear.
Speaker 3: His spears are damn so good. Like every match has
a memorable spear faker like Spirit spearing spearing Ludwig out
of the like he speared him with such impact that
he went flying out through the ropes to the outside
at at Survivor series.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's like you talked about, he's found this
character with the dogs. He's a perfect like the badass
between it, like he doesn't have to.
Speaker 3: Say he's like and it's also like a rare like
just he is fully a tweeter, like he can be
a face or a heel for for any fear.
Speaker 1: And his promo style is easy. He just goes there
says he's a badass. He has his what is it?
Is it math or what's his acronym he has now,
I can't remember. It's something where it's it's on his
shirts now, but it's something like great fortitude but like.
Speaker 3: A playlo dogs barking stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all he has to say is Cleveland, where my
dog's at and then they bark and he's over. It's
it's not Jay Usso's levels, of course, but I think
when he gets the top it could be that I
can see in the future him throwing every punch in
there being like the roof like he he's got all that.
And I thought this was like a good this for me,
This is like a four star. I think with a
little more time, the commercials.
Speaker 3: This is a perfect combination because also like in my opinion, Shamus,
like recently is also one of those like doesn't have
bad matches, Like I feel like you and you put
him in Braun like they just both have that hard
hitting style that just works perfectly. And I'm still hoping
Seamus wins that that I see maybe maybe from from Braun,
but I do feel like Seamus like this this is year.
Even if he's on fifth try fifteen by by the
end of the year, like I think he's gonna do it.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, especially if.
Speaker 3: They do like especially if they do an Ireland, if
they announced like a like a clash at the Castle Ireland,
like he's winning it.
Speaker 1: This is what the thing is eat. It's effort, attitude
and toughness. Last time he was on like the w
presser he dropped then people are like, this is the
most like meathead bullshit ever. But it's like, you know,
like it works there And that's where I honestly think
that I'm of two minds with him at WrestleMania. I
think he does deserve a solo match because he could
put on a great showing with somebody, But it also
wouldn't mind if they do a multi med match and
he loses it by not being pinned or a ladder,
because you gotta keep the momentum. But David, what do
you think about his about with shameless here.
Speaker 2: I agree with you guys, like it was a hard
hitting match. It is what it was with them. I
want it Shameless to get that Moslem because I really
like him. But I knew it wasn't gonna happen tonight.
Like I said at HOW show, there's not much substance
to these so I knew it wasn't gonna happen here
if they were going to give seamous set accolade. But
I mean they they put on a show, and yeah,
I was laughing at the end for Jesse constantly with
the three counts, like watching.
Speaker 3: I mean he definitely, definitely, he definitely was watching, just
not how how the commentators are supposed to.
Speaker 2: With whoever's in his headset saying no, no, no, it
was two and a half and he's like, no, it's
he's three. And in his headset they're like it's two
and a half, it's three. God damn it.
Speaker 1: Did you see Seamus's Twitter? He posted a picture of
him and Jesse together and they're like looking sad it
was robbed, like, so I'm happy about that, and I
hope he makes that joke like, well, Jesse Van Trua
thinks I should have I should have won it, but
uh yeah, so good showing here. I hope that Braun
can actually get on Raw now and he's done sitting
in the fucking crowd for Raw Netflix. You know, like
give this man someone just to fucking make a moment with,
you know. But after this we got the contract signing.
I don't have much say here other than one he
said it, but man, Sean Michaels was legit super sweaty
when he that jacket.
Speaker 3: He was wet with a shirt designer first, So kudos
that whole commercial, breaking themes that he's just he's just
out there.
Speaker 1: So one, there's that. Two I love that they I
said in discord, they tried to make Sean like the
bad guy in Force, like you two better sit down, Okay,
it's like this would work with this was like stone
cold there, but Sean was never the like he's the badass,
he's gonna fuck you up, like he was the stylist,
the wrestler guy who could like find it within himself,
so that was kind of funny. I thought this was good.
I actually kind of liked that Kevin was making his
points and Corey like stopped him again in a way
where if Kevin talks too long, he will make he
will make it sound Cody is the heel in the scenario,
so you gotta stop that. But I think this is good.
I think it does need to end at rumble, which
it's going to. Uh. I think they're gonna have a
really good ladder match, like I hate they're gonna.
Speaker 3: I feel like they're gonna do the ladder bridge think
they have to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Cody.
Speaker 3: Cody will take it and he'll he'll no sell it
and hit the crossroads.
Speaker 1: Then do we want to have the QB taking that
that bump? I don't know. I would love it if
they reversed and somehow Cody did it to him. I
love that would be the end of the matcher there,
because you know, if Koe gets a stinger, it's just
him insanity made it. But we can't have heard uh
seen you there?
Speaker 3: But no already done it like fifteen times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, his is ready. So but no, this is a
good setup. I think we're I'm not at the pastor
point where I'm over it, but I think rumbles the
perfect point to end this story and we will.
Speaker 3: Think it does lead to a to a new Championship designer.
I mean if I.
Speaker 1: I hope.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: My last one is I think the type of ladder
matches are gonna have is a Chris Jericho Chris bin Will.
I hate say it, but it was fantastic and Chris
Jerich was Sean Michaels type of ladder match. Even also
Triple Eh Rock, where I think it's gonna be way more.
You'll get a high spot like that, but way more
psychology and way more about the ladder and using it
as a weapon instead of high spot high spot, you know,
lay down high spot. I think it's gonna be a
lot of kind of torture spots. So I think they're
gonna have the.
Speaker 3: In the rules, those like ladders are allowed to be
used as weapons in this match.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's gonna be a good one.
Speaker 2: My only thing about this, the the overall promost is great,
Cody come in with the fire, Sean Michael's telling uh
Ko's like, yeah, you sound jealous. My only thing against
this is the ending shot of them hoisting the two bells,
you still have a right. So you're in San Antonio
right now, you have RAW in Atlanta, n XT in Atlanta,
and then you go to Indianapolis for Friday. Why are
you hoisting this in the rafters in Texas when you
have the pay per view in Indianapolis. That part did
not make sense. If he were to say, hand over
the belts to the officials so that they can be
ready for the pay per view, I would have understood
that rather than you hoisting them and then only taking
them about eight and a half nine feet in the
air like that wasn't even you didn't even take him
as high as a basketball goal, like I could have
reached up and got that, And that's all you did
with them.
Speaker 1: And when Cody is on RAW, is he's not gonna
have the title then? Like he's on RAW on Monday?
So is he just bullless? I guess, I guess you know?
Speaker 2: So, yeah, So that that's my only gripe against it.
Other than that, like the back and forth was great,
but yeah, the whole hoisting them into the rafters, I'm like,
this isn't even in the same building. You guys should
save this for SmackDown when you're at least in the
same town.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, that's a good point there. I suppose anything
on the contract sighting.
Speaker 3: No, it did what it needed to do there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is there any chance? Two other notes I had.
I was very surprised that Kao was not wearing a
Brad Heart shirt. I thought that was gonna be the
easy go to before, so I thought for sure he's
coming out of the shirt too. They there has to
be like a makeod on this, right, And I mean, like,
does Kao go to NXT and like fuck up Sean
or something? Even if they just go backstage and Sewan's
an attack, like, it felt odd for Sean to get it,
so I'll go back It will feel odd if Sean
gets the sweet of music and no follow up. I
guess they're just doing it to pop the hometown crowd,
but I feel like I'm not. It's not at the
round possibility that Kao attacks Shawn Michaels in the parking
lot because Ko did.
Speaker 2: I feel like.
Speaker 3: I feel like that could happen. Yeah, and then you
have like someone defends Seawan's on her, which they kind
of already did. In the next a few years ago
with like the Whole John it was like, there's a
whole story with like Grayson Waller, and he kept like
annoying Sean Michaels and it was like, we're gonna have
a match at Stand and Deliver and he's like and
Seawn Michaels like, there's only one person who loves that
XT more than me, and it was Gargana. So I
feel like they could do, Yeah, a Ko show up
on he have them laid out in the in the
parking lot, and then someone you can have someone fight Ko.
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, I'll be Garganto again. He'll he'll be
a black old Gargano. He kicks out of the package
pile driver, he'll do the spot, he'll hit him, he'll
get up and be you know whatever. So yeah, so
just look out for that. After this, we got Jacob
and Bron s Truman pretty much like in an angle match.
They did have a little bit of a match, but
this was just a set up more or they've pretty
much just taken what Bronson Reid was doing with the
tsunami and they've just rinse and repeated and done that
with uh Jacob too, with Broun Stroman. I'm not a
Bronze Stroman guy, so I was eating during this, but
luckily was not much. Uh it was a DQ finished,
So I guess there's gonna be a raw or I
guess a SmackDown main event in the future, probably of
Last Monster Standing or a street fight or no holds
bart something with these two and Fought two can get
the win there. But uh, yeah, I wouldn't know bron
Stroman feels because he's keep he keeps getting used to
be bitched out by the big guy like he's the
smaller big guy like Bronson Reid took him out and
now Jacob Fought two's taking him out and uh and
my only notice on the on the camera side, I
would have had them shot Jacob two hidden bron Schroman
on the back each time because a couple of times
they're way too close and Broun was he wasn't hit
him at all, and then they're like his no sproke.
I'm like, okay, stop show, either stop showing this or
someone tell Braun like, hey, next time, you just gotta
take it like it sucks you. Just so it kind
of took me out of it again. I just also
don't think bron Struman's a good wrestler, so that's probably
part of it. But uh it did what needed to
the point was it made me worry of man. I
know what they're trying to do here, Jacob the monster
heel thing. Don't know if that's gonna work out because
the crowd already fucking loves this dude. So I think
next after Braun, if they want to be a heel,
they got to put him against somebody that is more
beloved or someone that the crowd wants to go like
cheer against him because he felt.
Speaker 3: Like baby, I was gonna say, it's probably Jacob l
a night for a while.
Speaker 1: Help, Yeah, that'll help. Ellie's way more likable and people
do enjoy him. So I just had that thought tonight
where I'm like, man, because no one gets a show
a bron Strowman, they're asking him one more time to
hit this man like this is you know, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Mean to be fair, Bronton knows to seth than they
were channing one more time.
Speaker 1: That's fine, becausetheth doing. Do you think they'd be channing
seeing Funk? I don't think so. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe.
Speaker 2: It's got to be the ultimate. It's gotta be Ray,
it's got to be somebody who is so beloved that
you leaving him in a pall of blood. And that's
one of my critiques of it is so they did
the blood spot. It's obvious how they did the blood
spot with the sharp camera cut away before they get
back to him, and now he's drenched with blood coming
out of his mouth. I feel like they should have
maybe done that earlier, after like the fifth or six
running slam, then cut to Jacob. He does three or
four more as the blood starts to come out, instead
of just this random Okay, he's done ten. Now we're
just gonna fast cut and you're covered in blood. That
part of it, just cinematically, I was like, Eh, it
took me out of it a little bit, especially since
they weren't connecting that well. Maybe if he had done
five then Brown bit down on whatever blood capsule he
had and slowly got bloodier with the other five than
just this sharp Okay, now we're gonna do a tight
shot and then go back to him bleeding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would. Now, I do want the experien moment
of them dud deray or Cody or punk and see
at the Crouchat's one more time to really see are
they blood thirsty? Because I think it was Seth like
Seth's not beloved. People might like him, but it's not beloved,
you know, He's he's losing the punk chants and everything
like that. The one other thing I want to bring
up because I think we talked about this on the
Netflix review, but I think this was official proof that
announced table can't break, because there was like two or three.
Speaker 3: They've mentioned it on on on SmackDown where Joe, Tessa
Tour and Wave Bert was like, this is our indestructible
and I which which does make it feel like at
some point like they'll have an angle where they they
like make it like they'll something.
Speaker 1: Like the ring. Yeah, because it's been it's been weeks
and multiple period and slamming these tables and they're not breaking,
so it's it's just an O.
Speaker 3: They said, it's like the uh they said it was
like like reinforce the nown stable or like something like that.
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know if they still say this,
but when the Elimination Chambers started, they used to say
it was bulletproof glass. So then they'd have like Goldberg
might kick through and they like, oh my god, he
just the bullet broke he because he yeah, he punched
through and like all right, we know what it is,
and like it's it's.
Speaker 3: Like wobbling the whole time.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, guys, stop doing this.
Speaker 3: But or it's like the people always post like when
they did like the the Stairs match, where they're putting
like the stats on the Stairs it's like three hundred pounds,
like yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I suppose anything more to say on this one?
Speaker 3: U No, like you said, yeah, mostly just like a
an angle segment, but yeah, I thought it worked well
to have Jacob and the pre match promo that uh
Jacob and Tomer heaven Now those are always really good money.
Speaker 1: Like he like, I'm not a Solo hater. I think
Solo has some good stuff about him. I know, any
chance he gets, I suppose we'll post the Solo you
and meme and stuff like that. I think Solo is
over hated. But it is like a night and day
difference between the two of the chrismal level. When you
see Jacob, it's like, man, he's definitely got it. So
I'm very excited to see what's gonna happen the next
little bit here, But because he didn't much add there,
I will let you lead spots on Gunther versus Jay
so worldweight title mana Jay get the main event but
not taking it home here. So what do you think
about this match?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I thought it was good. Jay and Guntheror have
had good matches before, great matches before. I've probably brought
up a few times they had an Intercontinental Championship match,
like around probably this same time of the year last year,
because that was when Jimmy cost him to set up
the WrestleMania match, and that one was really good with
some really good Newark falls in and that one, and
I think it's the same idea here. You have just
like this top baby face of the crowd just really
really wants to win, and like, even though he's not,
just the perfect main event there to get the people
really into.
Speaker 1: Yeah, David eight thoughts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, again, predictable with the ending, but I will always
love main event jay us being in the main event
and his crowd entrance and everything else. Hard funt match
against Gunther. It was one of those things where it
kind of reminded me of some of the Sami matches
where it was like, I'm beating you, but I'm also
respecting the game that you're giving in, but I am
about to just totally beat the hell out of you.
I do like that. Right before the match, you know
how they have the warm ups and they're with the
weights or they're with the bands and they're either lifting
and doing bicep curls. He was doing chops with the
bands still warm up. That was just perfect for me.
But other that, yeah, it was a good match, predictable
ending because we all know gun The's gonna rain for
that thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you felt like there was no reason for
Jay to win here and not.
Speaker 2: Like Gunter's got to carry it through the world Rumble.
If he does lose it, it's gonna be it's gonna
be on one of the big pay per views. It's
either gonna be on Rumble, WrestleMania, or Summer Slam. He's
not losing it in a random Saturday night p l E.
Speaker 1: I agree. For the most part, there was part of
me that thought Jay could win over I said, no,
it was not gonna happen one I thought going there,
just when his entrance looked shoot, pissed so I was like, oh, oh,
get some news, like sorry brother, like because I could
see well because in my mind I'm playing it out
where I I remember what people said, and I think
it comes up all the time with Dragon off right,
where when they did king Ring or whatever it was,
it was a king Ring or icy title, they had
a match and I can't remember what it was for,
but everyone was it was like, oh.
Speaker 3: Clearly the roster haven't had a match yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have.
Speaker 3: Given j oh j Yes.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was thinking yeah when that happened, because I
remember everybody was like, well, this is clearly DRAGONA is
gonna win Big Showcase. And Jay beat him and that
was the first time I was like, oh, like that,
that's a little surprising. And to me, a couple of
weeks ago, when they did the raw Netflix thing and
it's Travis gone, they got the drone, there's that shot.
I do not think it's out of the realm. Possibly
at one point I think we gotta like belt him
up now he's already over. But still I could just see,
like to me, Jay whoso is so popular that I
feel like at any point I could see there being
a vinceism and be like you know what, fuck it,
let's just put on Jay because.
Speaker 3: They gave him the the Icy and he lost to
like two weeks later, and.
Speaker 1: That's but what that's what I was thinking is first second,
I thought, what if he wins it here and they
do like a quick one rumble rematch and he gets
it back like like Gunther gets it back like I
could see, because I feel they do have to cash
in on Jay being this paupla at some point, Like
I guess you can always just be popular and that's fine,
but I feel like at some point he's gotta win
the top belt. I do think that he would have
it for a month, like I think he's fine to
be a transitional champion, like same way Jeff Hardy had
it for a month. Edge's first run. They did the
same thing when he cashed him by in the bank,
he beat Sina, and then he dropped it three weeks
later at the first time. Then he didn't get that
back to summer, Like I think, Jay, like you just said,
I suppose with the world title he could do that too.
So for a second and when he kicked out that
first power bomb, I was like, oh shit, like they're
gonna do it they're gonna pull the trigger tonight because
I thought the same thing with.
Speaker 3: Like zero person.
Speaker 1: I thought there was a tiny chance because also in
my mind the other thing was like the devil. I
was like they, I think at some point they are
gonna do something big on a Saturay Night's man then,
like a big title change of big Angle or something.
Speaker 3: Right that's against all in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe yeah, they might, they might do that. They
probably should. But that's why I was saying, Okay, if
they do want to do big moment, Jay winning it
here would be a massive moment, but they didn't, and
a happy Gunther has it. I think Jay will be
like Jeff Hardy, Like that's what he reminds me of
Jeff Hardy Popper, where he's just gonna be over for
the sake of being over. But I am curious where he, uh,
where he goes from here. I hope it's not like
him and Braun at WrestleMania, you know, I hope it's
something else. Like I don't know if it's just gonna
be like a USO's bloodline sort of deal. I don't
know what they're gonna do, but uh, you know, he's
they gotta have him in the car just for that entrance,
you know, like he has to be there. So all right,
let's do uh rumble predictions here. So we're already talk
about Cody and Ko. Everyone's on the Cody bandwagen. We
talked about the package Potter driver. Is there any other
spot or anything else we want to talk about concerning
with this match.
Speaker 3: I feel like they'll have like some moment where Ko
is like waiting for Sammy or like calling for Sammy.
He doesn't come out one, and then that leads to
him coming back later in the rumble to like eliminate Sammy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's a good one. I could see that. Yeah,
I don't see it yet.
Speaker 3: Unless and then I was like, orton, I'm not sure
if he comes back in this and actually we're in
the rumble to like attack Ko, like like say he
eliminated adding too many people into the Like what KO
loses this match? He goes into the rumble, throws Sammy out,
Randy is in the rumble, throws the Ko out. Too
many people to add into this.
Speaker 1: I don't know because like you could say that, but
like Wrestlemanning forty was like how many people were involved
in that right, like they love even the tribal combat match,
how many was that? And that's where I was thinking
about the droove it all. I'm wondering if something like
that happens where Kao's waiting for Sammy and Sammy doesn't
come down, Cody's about to win and Drew comes in
there because they had that little angle a couple of
weeks ago, right, and I don't think that's by accident.
And imagine if Drew tries to screw Cody, but because
Randy comes back to save him, like to beat up Ko,
it like equals it out because I think it's odd
if Randy just comes back at the Royal Rumble but
or in the match, but not to mess with Ko
like he like in Kfabe, almost ended his career, right,
He's been gone for months because he's like whenever Fake
broke his next So, like, I'd find it odd if
Randy didn't come back to screw over Ko. So I
could see some Drew shenanigans. I could see some Randy shenanigans.
That's what I'm thinking. So we got finally the first
time since the resume, forty d I Y versus the
most machine guns in a two out of three falls match.
I fucking love it. I suppose he says this in
the discording. This is triple h. He's enacting his Black
and Gold. He's like Ben Affing and BDS. He's looking
at the the col and the glass and putting it
back on like a tag match. I would be like, Okay, good,
get them on that. That's great. Two have three falls,
that's awesome. I think it's gonna be a really good
Big four show. And yes, that's giving me hope that
that's gonna continue happen. And I think they're gonna have
MotorCity get to win here on a big stage and
even cement them further of like these are guys cause
like they're not gonna be around that long, like you know,
a couple of years there are on the older side,
So I think make them a bigger deal now. So
I'm thinking MotorCity Machine and like a really really good match.
And I think this, like the royalmal card is looking
really good, but I think this tag match is gonna
be like at least four stars, if not higher.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm really excited for for this one. Like
just seeing that announced just got me excited for the show,
like this is one of those matches like I really
really want to see. I feel like it's gonna be
really good. And yeah, the other matches d I, Y
and Mostlysies have had on just like on SmackDown, have
been really good. So yeah, honestly, if it's two out
of three falls, I just play a minimum of like
fifteen minutes. So I feel it's gonna be really really good.
Speaker 1: Do you think the Guns win it as well? Or
do you think Y is retaining.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if they're winning. I feel like there's
a chance.
Speaker 1: They're tripacious kids, so you feel like.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I feel like they I feel like
DIY retain. That's gonna be my my prediction. I'd be
happy if the MotorCity machine Guns one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, David, you are the tiebreaker here. What do
you think about this match and who's taking it this
next Saturday.
Speaker 2: So I am a huge fan of Motor City machine Guns.
So as much as I want that, I need that.
I don't know if they are going to hot Potato
the championship like that with the Motor machine Guns, like
they took it and then they dropped it. Are they
going to take it back. I'm not sure. I think
if they do, this would be a situation of another
Gargano Tamasa rift between them. I don't I don't want
it the Triple, but Triple As likes it. I don't
want it, but Triple Lakes Lights. When those two go at.
Speaker 1: It, we're gonna get Sammy and Ko and the Night too.
We're gonna get Gargana and shomp five stages of hell
matched him.
Speaker 2: You know, but I kind of see uh D I
Y winning this and then most City machine Guns getting
caught in the shuffle and going over to help build
the tag teams over on Raw. Okay, so they've already done,
They've already made Incredible and SmackDown again. Now let's go
to Raw do some stuff in the shake up. So
that's where I think that we're at with that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So before we get to have the actual rubbles,
is there any matches? Think it's gonna be added? Because
obviously uh Nia jacked on the Twitter or whatever they
announced that she's gonna be the rumble. I thought for
sure the five match card before the whole Rea thing.
I thought nine and Tiffy was like a like a
give me like I thought that was an easy layup,
like that's gonna happen. I wonder if they're gonna do
the gimmick David, you might remember us for the First
Woman's Rumble, they had Alexa Bliss and Charlotte sit ringside
to see who's gonna win. I wonder if they're gonna
do that with Rhea and Tiffany because they kind of
like their chemistry, or even if they're not ringside, they're
like backstage watching because I don't think Ria is defending
again this quickly.
Speaker 3: And they said that they did a Roman and Seth
like watching the match last year for the mental and
like in the in the skybox, right.
Speaker 2: They were That's that's the one that I see, especially
after their little interaction this past week. I could see,
you know, Barbie and the goth up in the skybox.
Speaker 1: The memes. They yeah for the memes, though they should
put them together, not separate box. They should be in
the same box, right because they kind of made someone friendly.
I'm surprised that Tiffany Strand has like named their ship
name strap LEI. I feel like that can cause them
very bad.
Speaker 3: Came it came from a from a fan and then
everyone just took it. That is that I followed the
person knew who came up with it, and it's like
it just took off, like she was the only one
calling it and then people just started taking it from
her to the point where like Netflix posted it.
Speaker 1: I remember, oh god, dude, when they did the whole NXT,
the first the four women Horsewomen call up and it
was like Paige, Charlotte and Becky and they were was
it the I think they were like the Sorority Sisters
or something like that. They had a name, and then
they changed.
Speaker 2: The mission Sorority, which it was like it turned out
to be a whole sub section on the Internet that
they didn't want you to google.
Speaker 1: So yeah, when I saw strap Lee, I was like,
there's no way they're saying that on the air. Ever,
there's no freaking way that that. I was like, and
that's a perfect for them. But yeah, they should do that,
have them in box together, But is.
Speaker 2: There any I want this to look like the Netflix
show Wednesday about Wednesday Adams. I wanted to look like that.
I want her in pink, poofy everything else. I want
sitting there. But I want them like sharing popcorn and
lapping with the Barbie and the Goth. I just I
need need that image in my life, or.
Speaker 1: The Barbenheimer Gift or the Mean and there one shares
where it's always like the Black House and like the
Pink was like easy, Yeah they should, they should do that.
But is there any other matches you think could be added?
Like Knockomar is in the Rumbles, so there's no US title.
I think they're gonna put Brown in the Rumble for
fun and he just defended, Like I think.
Speaker 3: Last year was just four matches.
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially just gonna be long, like that's.
Speaker 3: Each Rumble is like an hour over an hour.
Speaker 2: It's hour and ten to an hour and fifteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if the tag match wasn't two at three falls,
I'd say something could get at but I imagine that's
gonna be longer. So okay, So we think that let's
talk about the men's first, because I feel like we
kind of talked about a bit last episodes, so we
want to do is a big of a deep dive.
But right now the people that are announced La Night, Yeah,
John Cina, Ciampunk, j Uso Roman Reign, Seth Freaking Rollins.
Why do I I'm reading off I hate the fucking
freaking Drew McIntyre, raymis Serial, Sammy Zay. I almost calling
Sammy so Sammy Zay and Shinsky Nakamura. It's kind of
funny that Jay and that like it's has j now
is here? What what have you done? Every in the rumble?
I guess him and Guntha would have switched spots, but
uh yeah, so right now we got I.
Speaker 3: Thought people point out how it's like, yeah, there's there's
a lot of people announce them when you count in
like those people who like you feel like one hundred
percent gonna be in it, there's not really many spaces
for like what would be like just like the mid
card to fill out the rumble, Like they really stacked it.
So like there's a lot of these people who are
like on TV often who just aren't gonna be in
the rumble like uh like carrying like the miss or
carrying cross like one of those in the rung. But
I mean like those it's like one of those people
who are just like on TV every week just aren't
gonna like as compared to other years where they just
put like there's like maybe five or like seven main
event type guys who are gonna be like the final
ones and then the rest is like you're getting like
Santo's Escobar in the Rubble or like Eric of the
war Raiders in the Rumble.
Speaker 1: At all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like that's not gonna happen this year
because when you because there's all the announced people like,
we should go over who you think is gonna like
for sure be in it? Who's not enough? Like Pentas
and I want to I.
Speaker 2: Want to know everyone's surprise entrance and who you think
is winning. I have feeling out who we think is
winning is gonna be shared, but I want to know
your surprise entrance and who you think is one.
Speaker 1: Like I know there's the rumors going around, so I
feel like the surprise entrance in the Triple h Era
has been less of the like, oh, road Dog is
gonna come out for five minutes and get.
Speaker 3: I think it's probably it's NA because Joe Henry is
gonna be get.
Speaker 1: It's TNA. It's sounding from NXT or it's a new signing.
I do believe the Alist black Stuff because I think that.
Speaker 3: I think it's I think the thing is I think
his contract is enough. Well the report it's like it
since February till like mid February. So if it's February first,
then not there's like maybe like a five percent chances
in it. But I don't think he's in.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that because it's been so much stupid
shit about it. I thought it was already up, So
then I take that out. But yeah, I don't think
there's any like big legend. I don't think there's any
other Sonny out there. I'm trying to like, I don't
think even injury, like even the people said Dragonov's training
doesn't sound like he's ready. Think, yeah, so there's no
one to me on the shelf that's legit injured, Like
I'm not counting Randy Orton, who's k fab injured, right,
So I think it's TNA stuff and from TEENA, I
don't know, And that will go into we can talk
about it a little bit here.
Speaker 3: I think for TNA possible, Like, no, I don't think
Nick Namath is inner maybe I don't think so. Joe
Hendry for sure, and i'd give like a I'd give
like a fifty percent to like Jeff Harney.
Speaker 1: There's a chance yet because Richard Legacy asks is on
twity So with the announcement of TENAW partnerships or recently,
how many TEENA stars do you think we'll see. I
think it's a meant in general, but I think that's
the thing where I think in the main roster stuff
will mostly be them on an XC, but with Rumble,
because rumble, you have NXT superstars go to the Rumble, right,
So you can kind of say, like the TENA guys
are the the NXC picks. I think for teen A,
I think Jeff is always an option. Joe's an option.
I do agree, because I know it got a lot
of like mixed reaction last week, but I don't think
he's wrong. I think you pull I hope they do.
I think you pull the Matt Cardona Zach Ryder card here.
Speaker 3: That I think it's I think it's possible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't.
Speaker 3: I think it's possible.
Speaker 2: Has been my pick.
Speaker 1: These Those are the type of surprises I like. Triple
H likes more because he is chronically online and that's fine,
but I think he likes those like Jordan Grace last year.
That is a that's a wrestling geek pick. Like that's
not like g A. It's not like he could he's
been like, oh and Molly Hawley's here to come out
and get beat up and then thrown out right.
Speaker 3: Like Jordan x On. The classic fake rumble leak was
that people were talking about that there's every year. Last
year one was like they had Xbox as the only
legend and it was like a completely normal leak and
Xbox was like number like twenty years something like.
Speaker 1: I just I don't think TRIPLEH is but I think
even the same way of like granted, of course you're
getting you could get seen on Cody, but I think
they're trying to also do like let's not have full
on part timers like Goldbert Brock just made it that
mania right, like you do got to establish this era.
So I hope there is someone from TEENA that we
don't see. What the other one is is Alexander Josh
Alexander's contract like up up? Is that done? Or is that?
Speaker 3: I think it's up like February fifth, k.
Speaker 1: That would have been another good like Hype one.
Speaker 3: But he is still in TNA, so like he could
just be in it without his contract being up.
Speaker 1: He quit DNA, he quit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, but I think if they do the TEENA
people you're gonna go for people that you're gonna get
a reaction with, and for that, I think, of course
you got Joe Hendry, but I think Moose is your
other option, having that crowd, having that dome do the
Moose with him and things like that. I think.
Speaker 3: He's a hel and like he's a healing DNA that
like no one likes like I feel.
Speaker 2: Like I think that the audience is there would still
do it even if he is a heel. This this
isn't your weekly television. They would still do the Moose
thing with him.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be that.
Speaker 3: But do people know like compared to a Joe Hendry
or Matt Cardona, Like, do people know for a Moose.
Speaker 2: Yes, I would say more people would know Moose than
Josh Alexander or a lot of the other TNA rosters.
Speaker 1: I think they're comp I think they're going for.
Speaker 3: Me because like I didn't know like like Moose like
at all until I started.
Speaker 2: Like really, Moose has been around for a while and
has garnered a lot of respect within the wrestling community,
so I think he would be again an easier crowd
popper than some people.
Speaker 1: It is what like sixty five kre or something like that,
like it is.
Speaker 3: Gonna be like above sixty k now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like it's a big crowd. I was
gonna say, I don't think. I wouldn't have thought last
year Jordan Grace would have got the reaction she would
have and she still did, right, So I think it's
still maybe if if enough people just know it's a
teen a person, that's the pop right. I don't know
if they're gonna do the moose gimmick with them, but
just the idea of like, oh, it's a surprise, but
I'd love to see that the test because I feel like,
ww does that they want to do like testing the
waters of who can do what?
Speaker 2: But you think they bring in testa blanchard you're trying
and test those waters.
Speaker 1: We'll wait to the women, We'll wait to the women. Well,
I was the fact that that our dad here tonight.
It was not far from the back of my mind,
like oh fuck, they're trying to like grease the wheels
to get peel ready, but we'll get there.
Speaker 3: For like NXT picks. I could see like trick in.
Speaker 1: There, Trick and it's gonna be when mellows in there
and they're gonna do a show down. That's my prediction.
That's one of my predictions because they want I think
enough people absolutely know that trick. They want the sixty
five K fuck you should.
Speaker 3: I could see over in the in the rumble only
you have like like throw.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be tricky if you bring in your champion,
he has to be eliminated by someone who is just tough.
He can't get eliminated by dragonly, like you just can't
do that, even if champion.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna wait on oh but till next year.
I think they are. I think they're gonna want to
make a little strong and I.
Speaker 3: Think maybe I could see ethan page. Maybe if there's
a good spots, I could see the.
Speaker 1: Page because I think he's like I know he's still
got stuff going on x T, but I can see
him after wrestling, he being a call up guy, like
I really could, Like there's nothing for him to learn.
NXT needs him more than he needs NXT, Like he's ready.
There another one that's not like a surprise, but like
it's a surprise. I guess almost is gonna be in
the fucking rubble for sure.
Speaker 2: He gave up the championship. He just handed it over said yeah,
I'm headed back now. This has been fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I think he's in there, and I think they're
gonna look at it and be like, let's try for.
Speaker 3: Them stare down in them.
Speaker 1: Like when I was thinking about him coming back, because
I saw so many people be like fuck triple ash,
like he's not gonna do anything with them, Why I
bring him back? I could see them doing like an
NXT run with almost like a real run this time.
So but I think Almost is in the is in
the rumble, and I'm curious to see what reaction he
gets or doesn't get, because I don't know if I
don't know if.
Speaker 3: Sixty maniactions in the stadium.
Speaker 1: I think that the online community really likes Almost, but
it's definitely not transition yet to the crowd because they
haven't shown his personality right, So any other surprise picks.
Speaker 2: I have one other thought or wonderment, and I'm trying
to get this pulled up real quick to see if
it is somebody that you guys would think would make
an appearance. This is a stretch, but maybe maybe once
see here.
Speaker 3: I can't think of really anyone else off the top
of my head as like a like a locker like
above fifty percent chance of Vietnam. This as like a legend.
Speaker 1: I see what day he was trying to fall up Pierre.
Speaker 2: What's the chances we get him in we get a moment.
Speaker 1: It's I'm I am. I think I'm fifty one, no,
forty nine yes, because I feel like if it was
a yes, they would have cut that promo on him.
And to me, you have Biggie disappear, you don't have
him on any pre shows, you have him do nothing,
and I kind of be depressed about then he appears back,
so that makes me think it's not happening. But then
that also makes me think is that like a red
herring to make me like not think it's not happening?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: I would love like this is honest. If you're asking
me who would I want the most, would be Biggie
because same thing. It's not like I'm a ass of
Biggie fan like I like big love him, not he's
on my top ten or anything like that. But the
guy is very talented. He got to be the w
champion under Vince, which is like not the best. I
want to see his potential in the Triple h WWE
era because I think he could be something more and
I just for happiness, like the guy's career, like he's
been on the shelf for I think almost two years now, right,
if not two years, like to have that come backstory,
like so I hope.
Speaker 3: Because he just lost the he just lost the title
in like a five way to brock and never rematch
because he broke took.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he took the pin too stupid. But I hope
we hear that Walley music and yeah, this is the
one I would hope for the most because that would
be like a heartwor the roof.
Speaker 2: Would explode for that. And I could see this being
a situation where he his sole purpose is to come
in eliminate one of the members of the New Day
both if after that he doesn't survive. But he takes
a nice little bump to the outside and we see
that he's okay. After the bump to the outside. It's
it's all good. Like I'm not banking on him to win.
I'm not banking on him to have ten eliminations. He
gets those two and that's it. I'm fine.
Speaker 1: I think there's two things you do Either he does
the double clothes line, and when they get eliminated, they
do the asshole thing where they come back in and
they throw them out, or you make Biggie like a
final four, like you make them like look strong, like.
Speaker 3: Every or like everyone like stands with Biggie to like
throw up. Because they've been doing the thing with the
New Day that like even the Heels don't, like even
Dominic doesn't. So they could do the like they did
it with the Logan Paul and the Rumble, like they
had like Dominic Seith, like Kaiser and like Ricochet, and
they're like just like faces and heels and Logan comes
in and then they just all four started beating him up.
So I feel like they could do that with the
with the New Day.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think you could have, like you could literally
do Kofe at twelve, Exavier at thirteen and like everyone
looks be I think they'll do that if there's no Biggie.
If there's no Biggie, I think that's the spot where
they just beat them up and throw them out one
by one on their piss and then we know, okay,
we're not getting Biggie. But if they last a little long, oh, man.
I hopes it will get but we'll see. I hope
that happens. But uh yeah, we'll all last. Uh well,
I can't. I don't know if we confirm that. But
what are you guys, David, who are you thinking is
the I'll give you this to me a little more interesting?
Who's the final four? And who's your winner? For the
We'll do the men's right now and then honestly women's next.
But yeah, final four and the winner.
Speaker 2: Final four. Uh, I am going to go Sina because
that that is my winner. Yeah, so we're going to
have Sina because I think that they're gonna give him.
I think they're gonna give him a strong showing Wow, Drew, Okay,
and Seth.
Speaker 1: No Roman, No Roman or Punk for you? That's interesting? Okay,
so maybe mine's more boring, but I'm gonna say it's
gonna be Punk Roman Drew Sena. It's tough because it
could be Seth. I like your Seth because I think Seth.
Speaker 3: Needs I'm on the same page of Seth needs to
be in there. But then like Sena, punk Roman are
like the Locke Marine.
Speaker 1: For those Yeah, and I think because I'm curious at
the promo and raw Punk brought the favor again, and
I'm wondering. I don't know how the scenario would go,
but I'm wondering if let's say this scenario final four, right,
let's say it's Punk and Roman and two other guys
but they're down, I wonder if the favor is And
also gonna sound crazy, but like Hayman tells Roman like
he has to eliminate himself, like you have to jump
over the top rope, and Roman's like, absolutely fucking not.
I'm not jumping all that, like because to me, like,
what what other favor would you cash? In the rumble? Right?
If Roman wasn't in the rumble, then I'd say, oh,
you could easily for some reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the bloodline it's a self revive, yeah.
Speaker 1: Like something like something where they do help him. But
the fact that they haven't said oh it's a favorite
and it's ins WrestleMania or Hayman pulled some strings and
Punks at thirty they're still like, oh, I got a favor,
I got a favor. I could see drama of Paul
like like motion Roma like you gotta go and Roman
doesn't do it. I can see if the like throwing
punk and that's where you start that program. But that's
why I think it's those two.
Speaker 3: And I think, now you mentioned it, who do you
think is number thirty scene?
Speaker 1: I just because I don't know what ring shape he's
in yet, because we got fucked over already. He said
he's gonna I feel like they said he's gonna be
back all year, and then he.
Speaker 3: Was, yeah, he's saving those up for later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe a season later. So I feel like
Sina just because that has the hype and just because
he might have some rust on him. But so I
think for me it's punk Roman scene our lock and
the fourth one's tough. I would like Drew because give
me some of that Drew Roman stuff, give me some
Drew Sina stuff. I think with Seth, he just he
did just beat Drew, so you could have Seth tossed
him over. But I'm not one hundred percent on that.
I could all see the fourth being someone random like
David's not wrong with the pent To pic like that
could be Biggie Slought, that could be somebody that they
want to push that is or something like that.
Speaker 3: Last four last year were I'm trying to think who
it was. I need to look it up. They're like.
Speaker 1: When Cody won the first year, goother being like the
final two was kind of surprising because like he was
still like newer and we knew he wasn't going to
wrestle made or anything. Right, So there's always somebody that
they pick and say, hey, this is gonna be your
even a couple of years ago, like would Live right,
she was number two, I think, or number one with Rhea,
and she lasted the whole time. They gave her this
huge showcase. So they always pick somebody of like, You're
gonna be our star this year. Could be a Penta,
could be somebody I'm trying to think of, like who
I would love it to be Mellow. I would love
Tribles to finally wake the fuck up. S Bubs is right.
Mello is his Jay White, the same white Tony cup
Book two on the Raw Netflix. Mello was in the
catering segment of like We're in a booth reading food.
Are you fucking kidding me? Are you kidding me? Mellow
has so much charisma and tellan I'm not even an
NXT guy and I'm not saying he's like the future,
just like he was your number. Don't make him the
number one draft pick them, make him five or six.
You picked fucking what's his name? Nick always picked him
at number one, and you've done jazz ship with him.
Like I would love it if they said, hey, Mellow,
you're gonna be the fucking guy. You're the iron man.
You're gonna be in there for fifty minutes. Like imagine
that final four. If imagine if it's Mellow in the
final four, it'd be like, Okay, he's a player, you know.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see that. Yeah, I just look, the
last last year was Gum third, Drew Punk and Cody
was the final four. I don't know why I thought
there was someone else, Like I know, the like near
the final four was like Damien. I think it was
like close to the final four last year.
Speaker 2: My only thoughts against Roman is with the strength and
the upper tradectry that they put Roman back on, do
you put him in there just to have him lose
within the final four. I mean, if he's not the
one who gets thrown out by the winner, then I
don't think that you put him in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's tough, it's gonna be interesting. I think
there's a good there's so many scenarios. I could also
be a final to just seeing it being seeing punkin Sina.
I know Seampunk was last year, but you can do
that nostalgia, Like we're definitely getting a stare down of
Punk and Sina at some point. I'm excited for that.
So but I'm yeah, I'm going with Sina. I know
they could do Chamber and all this stuff, but I
just feel like that's the move. The promos at the
stage of I haven't won a match, how do I
get there? Royal Rumble and I think it's an easier
win than Chamber. And David said, he's Seena Espens you've
seen as well.
Speaker 3: I think I don't. It's like I kind of don't
think it's Sina, but then at the same time, I
don't know who would win it. That's my take on it.
Like I don't think Sina's winning it, but then I
also don't know who who would So I think you
get all the points to yourself just for predictions sake.
I'll say it's not Sena, but I don't know who
who had pick is winning it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just wonder if they don't have the goal
to choose who's versus Guther yet And that's where it's
like like, let's say it is Seth and Guther. Like
Seth winning the rumble. I don't think it's like like,
oh you won, Yeah, like that's starting. That's the thing
to me if it ends the show. If it ends
the show, I think Sena is winning. If the Man's
Rumble starts the show, then I think it is I
think the main event thing. Okay, yeah, because it was
starting show that it's like it's like Seth and again,
no disrespect to Seth, but to me, Sena is like
the hype pick. But uh, we'll see, but what about
the what about the win will sort of the surprise
is who can we get from n XT and TENA
I imagine? Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 3: I think Masha Slamovich is definitely in the in the rumble,
she's a t NA knockouts champion. NXT Rock sand is
desintitely in the rumbull. Uh, who else from the next
could you.
Speaker 2: Put a Well, it depends on if Booker T's uh
in charge of this, because if so, it's gonna be
Stephanie Vacoor Cordial.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Julia, I don't know. They've put NXC Women's Champions
in the women's Remote Rumble like a lot. But I
feel like Stephanie McKerr that's a good chance.
Speaker 2: Uh Simovich though that that's a good pick because I
think Jordan Grace is coming back and they're gonna do
like they did last year with Naomi and Jordan, They're
going to do the same thing with Masa and uh
Jordan Grace this year.
Speaker 3: And another pick that I saw, I'm totally stealing this.
I don't know who posted it, but I saw someone
if you want to have just like a showcase for
NX T put like soul Ruka in the Rumbler and
give her like the KOFE spot of saving herself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 3: And they put Tiffany last year in the rumbles that
just like a showcase before. So I feel like Solaru
got don't thinks she'd get called up, but I feel
like as a as a showcase and like, I feel
like she could be in there, and I and I
feel for the women to remember there's more chances of
NXT women being in at X team men being in
the men's one, just because the people already announced.
Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, right now, officially confirmed is not Jack's
Bailey Sharte Flair and Naomi Bianca bell Air with Morgan
and Brookeel Rodriguez just to throw it out there, but no,
I think you guys hit that, Like I like it's
I think it's gonna be a lot of NXT. Get
someone from TEENA. I don't think there's anyone really like
maybe like maybe like a Trish because that like there
is a few legends, Like I feel like this is
where you pull the legends.
Speaker 3: Don't put Nikki bell.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's only one legend that matters, and that's
gonna be coming through only one.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm done, I said.
Speaker 3: Travis retired his his injured le coming back at Money
in the Bank.
Speaker 1: I did retire. This peel got me worked up, saying,
what's gonna happen in this Bailey, Biggie, I'm here and
ship I'm done. That to me is the ring Like
obviously Biggie I want to return for herself, but that
for me is the most hype.
Speaker 3: That is last year lest year, Like everyone in my
section was like, it's between it's Sasha Banks, There's a
j Lee when it was number thirty, Like my whole
section was like it it has to be one of
those two and it was live.
Speaker 1: Watch me.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you guys have had the wrong person skipping
down the ring. This is what you need.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm retiring that until happens because I just don't
want to get excited. She's busy. She just but I'll
call them book like, I just don't know. I think
it will happen at some point, but I think it'll
be like, uh, it'll probably be similar to when Punk
came back. I'd love them to keep a secret in
the way that I think we'll hear actual rumors from
like a fight Full or PW Insider first. Like That's
why I think I think it will be able to
be able to be kept because like even then, stuff
like Edge's return was amazing, but we still knew a
couple of weeks before, like, oh, he's been having meetings.
It looks like he's good to go. Like sometimes, like
even Punk both AW and WW the W thing was
was really close. It didn't really happen, but even like
like that night off, you were like, Okay, it might
be actually happening. Now with AG, I think it's me something.
If they get pulled off, great that is the one
I'd want the most. I'm a yeah, the fact that
they got married. Those were my number one and number
two in that decade. Those were the people I was
standing in fans of all the time, and I love it.
So I'd love her to come back. I don't know
if she would be back full time, which is a
rumble spot, but that the pop that she would get
would be fucking.
Speaker 4: Massive number right if she was coming back, Well, that
in Chicago and Indianapolis are not that far from each other,
so I mean it could be a situation because they're
literally under three hours.
Speaker 2: It could be a situation where she is seen out
and about that morning in Chicago and then just.
Speaker 3: In the airport.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't even airport her. Like again, it's under
three hours from Chicago to there. Get her scene out
and about in Chicago, drive her over to the arena,
pull straight in. You don't have to worry about that.
I do think we're going to have some other people,
I think because Victoria has been appearing a lot, so
you're I think you're going to have a spot from
Victoria as a legend spot. Maybe even Nikki Bella because
that talk has been happening, even though Macaulay Culkin got
a better pop than she did. But still, you know, yes,
I again I said it in the discord. I want
to see it, and if they do put him in there,
I want him to be live streaming the entire time
because I want to see the image from his phone
of him getting thrown over the top rope. I liked
it when Logan Paul did the elbow drop to the
outside wall holding his phone and some of that other stuff,
so like having this. I think MS had a spot
one time when he was holding a phone and he
got kicked in the face and dropped it, like I'm
here for that, So that'd be the only reason I
would want someone like I show Speed in there, and
I think he would bump for whoever. He's such a
fan and he's such down to just do stuff. I
think he would definitely bump for whoever.
Speaker 3: By taking an RKO from Randy or Wrestlingia.
Speaker 2: Getting back to the women. Aj Lee would be my
hope for the biggest surprise. But I have a feeling
after this hype video and everything that they've done, Charlotte's
taken it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel like, to me, the reason Charlotte's
gonna take it is because usually what mostly happens obviously
last year is a different situation. Uh, you gotta get
two things with the rumble. The rumble winner wins and
then the raw SmackDown right away they go I'm coming
for you, Rhea or Tiffany, right, or you get the
I'm gonna take my time to decide. I think with Charlotte,
she would win and they would do the whole I'm
gonna take my time to decide because she would be
on both show, she'd go back and forth, so you
pop some ratings everything like that. But also I think
there's a legitimate question there of do you go after
the new shiny thing like the new Charlotte or do
you do the trilogy with Riea right, because the good
thing with that story is Ree and her are one
on one at WrestleMania, So you could see Charlotte as
a character being like I might want to fix that.
I might want to win that trilogy.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So I think that's where where even when we'll get
into it, whether it's Eo or Bianca, I don't think
they would do that, like, oh who would they pick?
And I don't think it would be. Now that's too
believablecause I think we all know Charlotte picked Tiffany. But
at least there's some story hinges there and her and
Rio could have some good promos. So I think it's Charlotte.
I think it's also they make her the first ever
two time win Rummel winner. She needs something I think
like big to come back for and and the other
ones could be Chamber, but I think I think Charlotte
has it. I think the final four is her EO,
Bianca and Live. I'll say Live. I think they're gonna
live been I think the runner up like twice now
and I think they might do that again because I
think Live could have a good shot of even winning it.
Speaker 3: Next year with Naomi could have a possibility of being
especially if they want to build on the Bianca Naomi
tension that they were sort of doing like us in
the promo and SmackDown. It's like, well, if you don't win,
then I'm gonna win, but if if I win, then
you're not gonna win her Like I feel like it
was definitely building the to a moment like if they
want to go full on with it, like have one
eliminate the the other and like a shocking moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and so we'll see it's because like obviously
there's the the which we'll talk about next to is
like the Eo versus Beyonca rumors, right, and I feel
like triple yeah. I think Eo like winning like she's
never won, so that that makes sense, Bianca, you could
do that, I think.
Speaker 3: I feel like the problem also is that they're both
very much triple H black and goal girls that he like,
you can't go to that. It's like, well, this is
why this person's definitely gonna win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and for me, and then I'll throw to s
Bub's next because I've been somebody that s Bubs for
months have been telling me, Okay, Ria's gonna be lived
before me, and it's gonna be Aria and Eo. Now
he was right able to live thing. And the thing
I thought he was right because they did that stare down.
It's like, okay, that's one thing. But I've always said
that I do not think Ria and Leo are gonna
have a bad match, have a great match. I just
was like, I don't know what the direct story is
barring a heel turn right where Bionca. I know some
people say, like, where's the build. The build has been
like it's been building for five years. Like the build
is they are one A and one B there Triple
Rock their Sena Ordon of their generations, right, and that's
where for me, I don't care.
Speaker 3: The SNA Bautista.
Speaker 1: Batista is a better comparison because Orton was his brand.
Speaker 3: It's the brand versus brand, like never never always separated
until like like never crosspaths really until like.
Speaker 1: And in that time, I remember there's so much stuff.
When Charlotte was versing Rhea for the NXT title, I
remember there was such a huge campaign that everyone's like,
it should be Bionca. Everyone thought Rio was not ready
for that spot, and then later on Ria, like I
don't care, became the bigger star. But the thing is,
I think they've always been back and forth because Bionca
may event to wrestlemating at first and to me had
a top three Wrestlemina Maine event. I love for Mattress Shawsa,
It's like for me, it's a five to five outstanding,
one of the best ones matches. I love that match.
So for me, it's like every two years they like
jump each other like there's always like, oh Ria's on top,
that's Bionca, and that's Ria, that's Bianca. So that's why
for me, that's that's where the story is. And I
know what their egos. Punk and Roman would make the
main event Night one, but to me, I would much
rather if it's Ria and Bianca for the title. I
could see a case for why this would be the
main event where I think Ria and EO I just
worry it could get lost and at the time, just
with everything that's happening, it just that they'd probably make
them the opener, so it'd be a hot opener. But
I just don't know. But Ria and Bianca, that's just
like a heart pick for me because I think we've
talked about this, like like early when the gimmicks start
of when are they gonna do this match? Right, and
even for a while we're like, Okay, Ria got injured,
they're probably not doing it now, and the fact that
they're talking about it, it might just be like you're
saying the Spubs and the discord where it's just like
this be our only shot to do this match. She's
like I said, like.
Speaker 3: Realize it's like that they'll like it's like doing like
it was like the like prime scene of versus Prime
Undertaker at wrestling you like, yes, like if you don't, Yeah,
if you don't do it, then like there's just a
chance with injuries, or someone has a title and someone
doesn't or both of them, or like there's just a
chance if you don't do it when you have the
chance to do it, then might never never happen.
Speaker 1: I agree. It's one of those things, like same thing
the Shield, Triple Threat, WrestleMania, the Four Women, four Horsemen,
all these things that were rumors of like, oh, they're
not doing it this year, but that's the plan. Eventually
they're gonna do it, right, and they never did. Moxley
mox is gonna be back in a couple of years,
don't know where. I'm telling you this stef Ryder thing.
He's gonna come back to WF.
Speaker 3: There after Tony tells him to drop it to the
Kenny's going back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like money, I think she will be back
to Like I think those things could happen, but you
never know, they might not happen. Saying to stick and
take it right. So to me, it's like the thing
of my pitches. You do Ria and uh Biyonca now
and then you do EO and Ria maybe at SummerSlam.
But Ria, obviously she's lost at Mania, but she's never.
Speaker 3: Lost either way, especially with SummerSlam being two nights, Like
if EO or Bianca like win or don't win, which
are one? Is the Summer Slam match, Like that's the
main event of one of the nights of Summer Slow.
Speaker 1: I agree, yeah, so definitely so for me, I I
don't think Beyonc or EO is winning the rumble, but
I am in the Bianca camp right and I'm happy
with either one, but the Bianco one. I just think
that deserves a Mania match. And like I was saying, yeah,
Ria's lost a tag, but she's never lost the singles
at WrestleMania, and then Beyonca has never lost at all.
So to me, it's like you have that and I
honestly don't know who could win. I know, I suppose
you saw I saw you tweet I keep the streak alive.
I honestly that is a match for me, Like I
don't really care who would win because it's just like
they deliver versus Bautista.
Speaker 3: The first time ever was at Summer Slam.
Speaker 1: It was at Summer Slim. Yeah, Batista broke his neck accidentally.
He Patasta bomb. Yeah, seen it did the spot where
he jumps and it's supposed to be lag thing and
Batista calaut him, but he's not. That was on purpose,
just the trajectory, but yeah, it was. But then they
ran it back at the WrestleMania after when Batista was peak.
Heel Bautista. I'm so mad we lost him because that
like Batista with spotlight, Batista prime stuff. But uh, I mean,
I let thats supposed to go last because I know
where he is. Dave, where are you because again you're
the tiebreaker here. If if triple you said, Charlotte's winning,
But if triple age sits you down, he says, Okay,
I'm not doing a triple threat. I can only have
EO or Bianca versus Rhea.
Speaker 2: What what?
Speaker 1: What route do you think they're going?
Speaker 2: I think that you do Bianca versus Rea right now,
and I think that you do you say the EO
one for Summerlam, because I think by that time Jade
will be back and you can start working that whole
program over there right now. Unless you got yeah, unless
you've got Jade coming back soon or something that you
can do with them as a jag.
Speaker 1: Wat she's in the rumble or not. You know, I
don't think so much.
Speaker 2: Just go ahead and do biyonca versus Ria now, because
you will still have EO there for that opportunity without
muttering up stories like you can always plug her in
without again needing a storyline. You don't need all this
build up, You don't need a reason for them. It
is again just the which one of us is the
best on this brand. Let's go out there, have a
banger improve it. So yeah, I would go biyonca versus
Ria out the gate now and then save EO for later.
Speaker 3: And I also agree with the take that maybe they
don't even know exactly what they want to do yet,
which is why you would have Charlotte win the rumble
and then you have a like at least the one
more month to think of who who's gonna face.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the thing right if you know you're
doing Scena and Cody, just have scene A win it
and then that's crossed off. You don't have to commit
to anybody right now. Where it's because like you don't
want to have let's say you have Bianca win it,
and they're like, ah, we should have done e O.
Maybe this was a mistake, like because Chamber then you
got like another month and at that point, like I
don't know how how they would decide because that's a
tough thing. Like they're Boufreight talents EO. Like you just
saw on Raw she's over like she got that hot
tag and people are loving her like they're like I'm
not saying like I'm on the Beyonca side, but EO's
not like a bad option either. So that's the thing
where it is tough. I think with the triple threat,
I would like that, but i'd like that at like
Summer Slam somewhere down the line. I want the one
on one first with them on the big stage. But yeah,
it's it's gonna be interesting. So yeah, we're all in
the Charlotte camp and then any any other last words
s sbubs on the winds roll rumble here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Charlotte. Yeah, I feel like it's definitely like if
she's not winning Rumble and then she's winning the Chamber
and like we said, like because the match is Tiffany
like versus Charlotte, like.
Speaker 1: We all we all know that, yes, so we should
become Scoopers, like we've known that for like ever. I
don't know since Tiffany got to the name roster. I
think we're all like that's the match at Mania, right there,
you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But also the the other rumor for a while
is that Charlotte has really wanted to do her versus
Bianca like ever, so like that was the plan for
her last year, yeah, but she got hurt. Yeah, And
then the rumor is also like Charlotte came back and
she's like, well, I'm doing I'm doing me versus Beyonca
at Mania, right, And they have to tell her like
like well, Tiffany's the champion because she doesn't watch watch
the show. So she was like, yep, we're doing me
versus Bianca, right, that's still in the in the plans
for this year. But uh yeah, I feel like if
you're talking about like like on the big stage, that's
also another one that could be like like Charlotte versus
Bianca at WrestleMania.
Speaker 1: You could yeah, or that's what you could do. When
we're talking about Summer Slam Night one night too, that's
where you can do yr Ria and EO and Bionca
versus Charlotte, or like you said, vice versa, you could
do ria An EO at WrestleMania and Beyonca and Chart
and then just swap them at Summer Slam, you know,
like they kind of did that back in OH five,
they swapped like I guess it was it was Scena
versus Jericho, but eventually they got to Scene and Triple h.
They just Summer Slam. Back in the day when it
was SmackDown Raw very much close to SummerSlam, the challengers
would just switch brands and you pretty much just get
the reverse of the matches there. So no, I'm interested.
That makes it cure, that makes the the change.
Speaker 3: I think that I think that final like ten is
gonna be like very tense. That was just like because
it's like if this person gets thrown out, like it's jover, like,
it's gonna be definitely agree with the good moment they're singing.
But I think, yeah, I'd a favorite on Charlotte. But
I think there's a chance because maybe in our heads
they're thinking they're still thinking of that, but maybe they
know for sure what rheas matches already. Yeah, and maybe
they don't know. Maybe everyone's thinking it's Charlotte Tiffany for sure,
and then they they're not sure on that one.
Speaker 1: So yeah, And the only reason too, it's it's tough
because I wonder if they're gonna do like the Edge
thing where Edge came back but he didn't win that rumble.
It was just like the hype moment. That's they kind
of took it.
Speaker 3: That's why I feel like Charlotte, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's that's what screwed me up. It's like, Okay, Charlotte's
gonna do the Edge thing because originally, when we're going
in the show, I was like, I think I'm gonna say,
shar it's not gonna win. They're gonna do a thing
where Shark comes back big pop but she loses.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: I think it's a new new theme song too.
Speaker 1: Oh good, that's that news. That fucking who's it now again?
What's the fucking def rebel dev rebel? What they did
to her song is awful. But I think the Edge
spots can for Becky. I think she's gonna be the one.
I guess I take it back because I think I
said I think I said Eo Bianca Live and Charlotte
is the final four. If Becky's in this, she's gotta
be final four. Like when else is she coming back?
Like she's apparently under contract again, rumble spot, Like, who
do I kick out of that? I'm gonna kick I'm
gonna say her in Naomi are gonna like something's gonna
happen like in the mid twenties. Yeah, somethings communication or
Jay comes back and there's some drama there.
Speaker 2: So someone's gonna do something during their athletic spot that's
gonna get them eliminated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll we'll, we'll see. But uh yeah, so
miss Lane's section. Only thing I have here to bring
up is I just swun to say that I fucking
hate all the Jeff.
Speaker 3: Chair before you go, I do my.
Speaker 1: I'll tell the audio listeners here. So currently has a
brick wall as his background.
Speaker 3: Transfer to the inside of Oh my God, Oh my God,
Amal print Breaker?
Speaker 1: Is that Rosa back there?
Speaker 3: Uh? That there.
Speaker 1: Was the video game back there?
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Dianna was on TV tonight. Dianna was on TV tonight.
Speaker 3: I made this before they announced this match because he
had a Yuka on the left there and Rickey starts
and I also have way the wu energy under the
bed of the and I.
Speaker 2: Think Muca may be facing.
Speaker 1: Day, but that both of them because of social media.
Yuka's friend was all, hey, you gotta get her on
TV and then I'll call Space of Spain. I don't
care like in the past has been publicized process like
I was just say friendly with Sean Ross app so
the that like fightful put out report like purportably she's unhappy.
It's like, no, I think she put out like hey,
I fucking hate the spot. Put you can put this out,
go ahead, like put sourcing like it's yeah, so that
the meme has been born for this and uh yeah,
I'll shelve my double j thing all this stuff back here,
Like with Alser black Shirt Miro.
Speaker 3: He's on the outside, he's looking on the on the outside.
He already got out. He's looking back into the to
the cell.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he is. He's looking at his fellow friends there.
I can't remember what Scooper. I saw some report. It's
like it was like four images. It was like ray Auster,
Ricky and Mirro.
Speaker 3: Today at a at Ricky's the Indies show. They were
channing raw on Netflix.
Speaker 1: Oh no, but it was some script they said, like, oh,
when these people are done with AW, they're all expected
to sound in WWW. All three made sense to me.
A miro, I was like, I don't think there's a
spot for Rusve anymore. Like I feel like that's like
he's been off TV so long, Like I just don't
know if people are gonna care that much. And I'm
not gonna get into the brit breaker of it all.
It's been a crazy week. All all I would say
for wrestling Scoopers is just like just keep to the s.
Speaker 3: Putting him on trial live after uh, I'm on the
post show, but then a live discussion.
Speaker 1: So for context, if you don't know there's a Scooper
that you know me, I supposed to this podcast. I
do too. I know he's on the raw after his
name is Boo. He had like said some stuff about
those rumors about Britt Baker having some affairs and everything
like that, and then obviously she's come out months later
said lots that's not true, and guy just say that
people are being shitty about this. He put out some
statements saying she apologized, and I came out that she
didn't apologize. He said, like, I misinterpreted either way, whether
he was genuine or not, had a bad look right,
And then I saw Sean he said that like, oh,
we're gonna do in the raw after, but the thing
was then he said that then after the raw review
is just gonna be myself. I feel like I think
was not gonna be on those shows anymore. I think
what they're gonna do is they're gonna have this thing
and either he's gonna say I'm choosing to step away
or something like that. I don't know. It's just all
say is a Scooper, not that anyone Scooper is listening,
but just stick to the ring stuff because the personal
stuff that's where you're gonna get tricky. And this is
where what I did want to mention though, because that
report who put out that original It was a PWI
that put out the original pro that like her and
Tony are Tony does want to use her and she's
done with like she's like in the jail, right. I
can't remember who it was it was p W.
Speaker 3: I don't think it was it was. It was a
different one. Like it's like there's like a different like
proling Torch or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. It's some one that is sourced,
but not like the tippy Top. But still when it
came out to me, I don't I'm not gonna say
it was Tony Kahan, but that to me felt like
a full on hip piece. And we've heard tons of
stuff about like some people like brit some people don't
whatever you want to say. Same stuff happened with Punk what.
I had a red flag when that report was like,
oh yeah, ww won't even look at her when she's
done contract. I was like, I don't fucking believe that
for a second. And then I think it was either
inside or Meltz or somebody put out like it was
somebody more top tier again that put out like I
think I.
Speaker 3: Think it was Meltzer who was like, yeah, she hasn't
even heard of, like people not liking her or something
like that.
Speaker 1: Well that one, but no, I can't remember who put
out some one of the top tier scoopers. I put like,
oh wwe doesn't know her contract status, but there's interest there.
And to me, it's like everything about brick Breakers screams WWE.
In my opinion, the fact that she was in aw
because she did like the may you on class whatever
she was like a hatter free agent and she went
to AW. It did feel like, okay, ww didn't have
enough slots. She's going to this promotion. See what's gonna happen.
And I remember the whole time the first run when
she was very popular, it was like, oh man, when
her contract's up, she's going And she didn't because I
think Tony did the MGF thing where he threw a
lot of money out of her. But I think that
like the backstage stuff, I'd don't care what is going
on backstage with her. Punk got in multiple fights in AW.
I get it. Punk's a one of a lifetime athlete.
He's a massive draw. But Britt Baker just.
Speaker 3: Like they didn't give Britt her her own show.
Speaker 1: Though yeah that's true, Yeah she got that reality show.
But like I to me, Brit breaker is especially after
this stuff to be bound. So to me, it felt
like somebody in AW really wanted toterpeter her. Whether it
is valid or not, I don't know, but mark my words,
that's a trash told you when she's done the same
thing in the next five I'll just say this next
five years, MGF and Britt Baker are gonna be rumble
raw after you know, surprise entrance. People like to me,
Brit Baker even people they dog on a wrestling It's
like there's lots of people in WW that like wrestle,
that type, that type of style, right, Like Britt Baker
can do like the ore things. And the thing is,
which is weird, she got so big an AW for
being a promo person more right, it was like she's
the best on the mic currently right now. That was
always the meme like it was like Britbreaker greater than
m Jeff Right. WW is the place where they fucking
like sometimes prefer you to talk like they'd rather you
be the promo person. So to me, that's where it's
an interesting, weird situation. But I think she will be
WW bound soon. I don't know if she'll be back
on AWTV. It's because Tony will always say this shit
like oh, we're not doing that, and then like, yeah, Ricky,
there's lots of great stars, can't wait to see him,
and then you don't see him, you know, So I
don't know good picture there anyways. My last point hate
the Jeff Jarrett stuff. I can't stand it. I saw
Conrad Thompson his podcast partner just going off on it, like, oh,
Scooper shouldn't report that. You know why they reported, Hey,
Jeff Jarrett's not gonna win the title because the fan
base is so fucking worried right now that we look
at Jeff Jarrett and go, you know what, Tony might
put the strap on him because what's been happening. This
is definitely, I will say, the lowest point I've ever
been as aw fan. I'm not trying to jump him
back wing. I think guys can go back before. I
always try to fan. I still Bill watched most of
the product. I don't watch Like Collision as much as
I could, but like, I still love that product because
they present an American style that's like in ring that
you're gonna get some you could get a five o'
of five match like star match randomly on a dynamite, right.
That's why I love about that product. They're gonna let
two wrestlers go for thirty two minutes because oh, let's
see what happens. May it works. But I'm definitely the lowest.
The Jeff Jarrett stuff. For me, it's just like now
it's every week like he's getting that fifteen minute promo
spot and now like, to me, even from a story
guy that Okay, I don't like this idea from Jeff
Jarrett because one, I don't consider him like an aw
original he came in later. When he came in, he
was like a side character. Don't get me wrong, I'm
I'm a Jeff Jarrett fan. I defended a lot of
a shit into TENA. People hated that he kept trapping
himself up. Now I love that he was like mini
jbl that he kept like having these long ass rains
and he was the booker like it was. I liked
King of the Mountain and all that stuff. But for me,
I guess the issue is, Okay, I don't like this,
but the story is, Hey, I got a year to
climb up and win the championship, and what do we do. Oh,
next week, if he beats Claudio, he gets a championship.
So I feel like they just saw everyone react and
they went, fuck, people don't like this, Let's just hotshot
this thing. So for me, it's like, I don't even
like the start of it, but then they can't even
follow through. And I just didn't think it needed to
have Jeff Jarrett like on TV every fifteen minutes. I
hated the MJFF Jeff Jared promo because I love M Jeff,
but of course he does sometimes go into the like
that I'm gonna make some women slut jokes. But then
the whole promo was just him and Jeff Jarrett back
and forth making like you know your woman sleeps around, well,
your a woman sleeps. It's just like, oh my god,
like this is what we're doing right now. So everything
about this Jeff Jared thing I've not liked. I wanted to.
I want it to go away, Like that's why it sucks.
Like Sting. I know that he didn't want to win
the World ten or anything like that, but the way
they used Sting was so perfectly Jeff jareded is not
on his level. But still they've showed us that, hey,
we can take a legendary act and find the right
way to use him. They're not doing that with Jeff,
and I just hope that. Yeah, I guess I don't
even like him beating Claudio. Jeff Jared's gonna beat Claudia
next week? Are you fucking getting me? The guy that
was just in the condo classic? Like, but I just hope, Yeah,
he beats him. Moxley just fucking murders him, and they
write them off because they've made me.
Speaker 3: Actively interference to beating Claudia.
Speaker 1: Oh, you're probably right. Yeah, we're gonna keep going on.
I just yeah, I'm not a fan of this and
this is a problem that now in AW there's multiple
stuff where I'm with other people are Yeah, I've turned
on the deaf fryers stuff like we talk about last episode,
the Jeff Jarrett thing. There's other stuff like with the
women's the tags that hurts Tree, Yeah, the fucking learning
tree that hurts Cynegate. I actually really liked I'm Not
a Body last week. I liked how they won the titles.
They came there and just kicked the ship them. It
was this big powerhouse match, but man, it felt like
not like them being Private Party felt like nothing because
they did nothing with Private Party. I suppose you shared
that cage match where they had like two defenses and
she's like, man, like, this was an aw original team
that you're trying to build up, Like finally, we didn't.
Speaker 3: Like the defense is a fatal poor way at full
gear And the whole story of the match was just
about the acclaimed yes, and then there are only other
singles or like one like two on two Defense, those
against Action Andretti and Leo Rush on Collision, and then
the titles.
Speaker 1: It just felt like they want to give them the
moment that was it. So I feel that AW does
have multiple issues, but the Jeff Jarrett one for me
is next to Death Rice because I do agree. I
think the deaf writers, it's it's getting tough. I don't
need to see them keep being up the rock and
roll Express, I really don't. It's I hate that we
returned back to yeah and again, like I still really
want to see Moxley and I'm Copeland despite I've not
seen the Copeland Pac match, which I've just heard is
not good, not just only from ass bobs. I just
heard it was kind of let down, which socks. When
they on paper, I was like, oh, that could really slap,
but apparently it did not. So yeah, I just think
you could even take the tough box and still have
like him fight cope and everything. But yeah, my biggest
thing is the Jeff Jarrett thing is it's an instant
ick for me, and yeah, I don't know what they're
gonna what they're gonna do here I liked. I did watch.
I guess that's my last one. I did watch the
promo he sent me David. But the Tony Storm thing
that was really good. I still think it was a
little rush. I thought we were gonna have like one
match of her acting. But I guess Tony Storm is
just gonna win that fucking title back at Grand Slam
in Australia.
Speaker 2: Right, So you know, I'm gonna touch on the Tony
Storm thing, but I want to touch on what you
just said about Jeff Jarrett. I completely agree with everything
Jeff jarreed to me has not been relevant in my
wrestling opinion since two thousand and when I had a
poster of him up that had the word slap nuts
on a guitar Like I, I really, I don't care
about him in the year of Our Lord tweeny twenty five.
I don't care that he's in three prominent feods right
now on AWTV, taking away time from all these people
who are locked up in Contanamo Bay who could be
on our television, Like that's precious Ricky starts airtime you're
taking up because you're in three FN feeds right now.
I don't want to see someone put him out of
his misery. I don't care if it's Mocks, I don't
clear if it's Cludielle, I don't care if it's Hangman,
I don't care who. Someone put him out to pasture. Please,
I'm tired of seeing him on my TV now. As
far as the other part, the Tony Storm thing, yes,
it is a little bit rushed, but the way that
they did it again, I wish they would have waited,
probably a month or so closer to Revolution to do it.
But the way that they did it tonight was absolutely perfect.
She still came out as the fan. She's like, oh,
good to meet you. I'm your biggest fan, all this
other stuff, Mariah Mason to tear her down, No one's here.
Speaker 3: To see you.
Speaker 2: You mean nothing.
Speaker 3: I made you.
Speaker 2: And then minute Tony turns her back, she starts whipping
her and the rest pull her off and all that
other stuff. And then that's when Tony reverts back to timeless,
saying she never forgot the scars are still there, everything else,
and then she ends with saying that she's gonna come
and rip her tent off. I was just like this,
this is what I need, Tony Khan. Stay away from
the nostalgia acts. Stay away from the Jeff Jeri, stay
away from the Rock Roll Express, stay away from all
these I don't want to see Jericho on my screen.
Throw your nostalgia bug away and let this thing cook.
Let these people that and these talents that you picked
up from all over the globe, let them do their thing.
Stop going, oh, yeah, I've got this pretty young toy
that was cool when I was in high school. Let
me throw them out on the TV. Let these women cook,
Let Kinny omegan other stuff. Let those be great. Let
those be the aw that we remember in eighteen nineteen
and the two thousand, like that stuff that really popped
them off. Let it be that instead. Right now, Yeah,
you're you're going to the well on this and you're
not focusing on I think if he was focused left
on the Jeff Jared stuff, on Chris Jericho and all
this nostalgia stuff, he would have more time to write
these storylines for these women and have drawn this out
at least one more month to write before revolution. Because
what happened was amazing. It just happened too soon.
Speaker 3: It was all it's gonna be for Grand Slam because
of the Australia show, like it wouldn't have been for Revolution.
Speaker 1: But see, I was what I thought they were gonna
do is I thought they're gonna have her versus Tony
like when it rocks are Tony right, and do like
a lot of illusions, like a lot of even Mo games,
and do the question of like is she actually Tony
playing a role or is she just fucking crazy? Where
they did the reveal that okay, she's playing a role.
I thought they were gonna do, you know, the fan
gets close, almost wins, and then they run it back
later on. But now I just feel like it's just
maybe Mariah does beat her. But that's what I thought
was I agree with you, They're always gonna do it.
I just thought they'd do it a different way, like
that graphic of her being rock star. Tony thought, Okay,
we're gonna get like a trilogy here and we're gonna
show because you could easily do that. But now I
think it's just now Timeless is back. She beats Mariah,
and then I just feel like it's just gonna be
another time just just run for off, which I like
to like. She's a great Character's the reason why I
agree so many people. She was like the woman's wrestler
last year, but it is I'm very curious what they're
gonna do the follow up if she does just beat her.
Speaker 2: You know, I would have liked if they maybe did
this spot at Grand Slam, so have her wrestle against
Rockstar Tony and then you're beating her so bad that
knocks the timeless back into a Grand Slam and then
you take that into Revolution or something else like that.
But I feel like, yeah, they rushed it because Tony
Storm is also in this Queen of the Ring movie
that's coming out, so maybe they wanted that version of her,
which will look closer to her character that's in the movie.
I'm not sure. It just it felt rush and yeah,
there's so many different avenues that they could have gone
with this if Tony was just legitimately sitting down and
thinking about how he books women's wrestling, because that is
not happening on a large scale, and it's evidence with
you dropping the ball on this.
Speaker 1: Well, now, then we talked about it right of like
the routine of you had a couple of challengers, fatal
fow away for Monet, someone wins, they beat her, and
then they go away for it.
Speaker 3: They beat her, they go like the whole Mariah May
like Mina story was like everyone thought that was gonna
be like the big thing, and they just kind of
kept like she they like she had like Mina returned
and then like a few weeks later she like showed
up after I think it was a match at Grand
Slam like last year, and then they had like a
she returned after Marai's match, and then that moment was
like not mentioned for like three weeks and then they said, oh,
we're gonna have this the championship celebration like two months
after she won the championship at full Gear, so it's
like another month delayed, and that's when you had the
turn on Mina. And then they had the match at
Winners Coming Dynamite like a month after that, so they
had like it wasn't that they like draft. It was
like it wasn't that the feud was like long term.
It was like they would just have each segment take
place like a month away from each other instead of
being doing it for like even on a like you
could have done the match at Wressel's Dream or full
Gear if you would put if you took each and
did one of those every week instead of every month.
You could have had that feud go and keep it
like hot to when it happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Anything else to shout out, whether it's AW or
anything else miscellaneous that we haven't talked about.
Speaker 2: Uh No, we just we touched on it, but we
haven't like openly said anything about the uh coming official
coming together of TNA and WWE and their partnership. So again,
we're going to see a lot of that in the
world rumble. But I'm also anxious to see how that
works going forward.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: We just had tax Team Matric Phraxium on TNA television,
an actual NXT.
Speaker 3: Uh oh yeah, sorry for kind I was just there's
a they did the taping and the Phraxium defend their
titles against two other TNA people in the inn A
Tam Can you guess who who they are? What is
a former WW person?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just curious how it's gonna go because I
agree with many people online that even AW we saw
the early days like the new Japan partnership, right and
they just fucking clean house over there, And I already
feel like WW It's fine, w B. I already feel
like they're doing that with like Grace and Hendri where
it's like they have some people.
Speaker 3: People talking about it's like Jordan's contract like like six
months just happen to disappear offer contract.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So to me, it's like this is gonna be
interesting to watch, but it's like how much is it
a partnership or how much is it? Like like, uh god,
what is it? H I can't remember the expression, but
it's like, oh, rent to own. Some people can get
where you go. You move into a place and you're
paying your rent, but it is for you to eventually
buy the place. I wonder if this could be that because.
Speaker 3: WW DIDNA because the people point out it's like they're
getting all they can out of TNA without having to
pay for any of it, Like they're getting the talent,
they get the crossovers, they get the promotion of it,
Like if they bought TNA, they don't have to pay
for that, and they're getting all of it now without
having to pay for it.
Speaker 2: I will say they're doing a better job than AW
because they are giving shine to these TNA wrestlers. They
are giving shine to the product where I felt like
AW was just like hey, we're going to appear on
your TV, but we're going to win everything. Like I
get like Kenny as the belt collector, but everybody else
who showed up there was constantly beating their people, and
no one in TNA looked strong as a result. So
at least in this one you're having some back and forth.
You're having people appear on both shows. You're having TNA guys,
cost WW guys and vice versa. Like there's some build
up there. You know what, we can't use you on
NXT because nxcza two hour show once a week and
we've got all this stuff going on. Well, now we
have you in a feed with these people in TNA
like it. They're making it work a little bit better.
And if it is just to talent scouts deal, then
at least they're doing it in a way that at
least makes it entertaining.
Speaker 3: And now there's also the rumor of the supposed that
NXT evolved, which is like it's like pretty much supposed
to because level up was like it was like the
true developmental but it really wasn't because it was it
was just matches, but there wasn't any like promo time
or stuff like that. The rumors that Evolve is gonna
be like like they'll be like an Evolved Championship and
like there'll be storylines and promos and stuff. So it'll
be like the developmental before NXT and then they will
be like the show show.
Speaker 2: They push Evolved before when they were doing their whole
buyout of the indies and collecting various indie organizations. From
what I read, they're bringing back Gabe Sepolski, who was
great with Evolved and brought up up a lot of
young people like Austin Theory when he was with Evolved,
like the way that they brought him up and just
turned him into an absolute monster to start with and
continue that trajectory with him. And they've had some other
people come through Evolve, a lot of the guys who
are in n XT and things like that they went
through Evolved. So I will be excited to see what
they do with it, if it is just another developmental
route or what. But yeah, uh, I'm poort. They already
have bought into it and so now you're just bringing
back the name.
Speaker 3: And I'll say the thing outside of who practice even
defended against on the on the TNA taping for a
future week, they defended against the team of Nick Nemath
and Ryan nemtheting some Ryan Nemmoth is leaning into the
people just care about my brother though gimmick, Like that's
his gimmick on t Like his whole problem is like
my brother says this, or like my brother thinks this,
and like every the start of every sentence is my brother.
Like that's the he's leaning into it at least. But
uh yeah, yeah, I think I think that's that's pretty
much all of the extra topics.
Speaker 1: Well, there we go. We said it's gonna be a
sure one and it was the exact same length this
last time that some sort of some sort of rands.
Next week should be sure because we'll literally just be
talkingbout the rumblebot, who knows tons of stuff could happen.
It's a week wrestling, look at this week. That's that's
evening the wrestling business. Just tons of things just keep happening,
whether it's in the ring, outside the ring, rumor innuendo.
Uh but yeah, we'll be back for that, so look
out if you ever watched live, we go right after.
But then he'll be on the feeds on the podcast
meets right after in the morning there, So thank you
gentlemen for joining me here, and it's gonna be tons
of fun. Next week Roller Rumble start wrestling this season,
hopefully get some surprises and that we'll be back next
week and but I'll be boring.