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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven ninety. Holy crap, I don't know who

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<v Speaker 1>the hell we think we are. Get off our show, idiots.

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<v Speaker 2>The kids are playing or Turlot cry.

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<v Speaker 1>Countries are screwing it up. Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother,

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<v Speaker 1>Goldplay Inn Murals. They're supposed to be mature adults, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're really not.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Nick coffee? All right, Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome into a Tuesday edition of Coffee and Company, fueled

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<v Speaker 2>by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Nick Coffee

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<v Speaker 2>with you, and I'm not gonna be with you as

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<v Speaker 2>long as I typically am. Short show today, we've got

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<v Speaker 2>a women's basketball game coming up. I believe we're out

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<v Speaker 2>of here at about four fifteen, So we're gonna use

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<v Speaker 2>the time we have today and make the most of it.

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<v Speaker 2>At least we're gonna try and don't forget. You can

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<v Speaker 2>take us with you wherever you go. Listen live on

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. We're now one day away, in fact, less

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<v Speaker 2>than twenty four hours away from getting a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>see this Louisville basketball team tested for the first time

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<v Speaker 2>since the Tennessee game. Obviously, we'll continue to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're also a day closer to the Governor's Cup game,

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<v Speaker 2>which I'm trying to check the pulse of both fan

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<v Speaker 2>bases here, and I think I have a pretty good

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<v Speaker 2>feel for how the majority of both fan bases feel

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<v Speaker 2>about this game, and I'm not really sure there's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be anything that will change how they view this game

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<v Speaker 2>before we get to kick off on Saturday. We do

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<v Speaker 2>have some news that I consider to be pretty big news.

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<v Speaker 2>A power for job opening up kind of unexpectedly, or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it opened up in a surprising way. Mac Brown

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<v Speaker 2>fired at North Carolina. I think there was some hope

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<v Speaker 2>that he would walk away or retire and just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of move on, and he didn't want to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>so it sounds like they were forced to fire him.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's like big news, But again,

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<v Speaker 2>when a power job opens up and at least one

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<v Speaker 2>school is willing to say that they are willing to

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<v Speaker 2>pay the buy out just to make a change, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe that influences other programs to do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It certainly seems like this is going to be an

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<v Speaker 2>offseason where coaches that typically would have been fired are

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<v Speaker 2>going to get at least one more year. And the

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<v Speaker 2>obvious reason for that is the twenty two million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>these schools are going to have to start paying these

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<v Speaker 2>athletes directly. I mean, twenty two million is the max,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you're not committing to the maximum amount of money,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're going to fall behind. And the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two million is not just going to the football program.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of it probably will. However, it's twenty two million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars that you're allowed to disperse among all of your

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<v Speaker 2>student athletes, so that being an expense that didn't used

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<v Speaker 2>to exist. And last I checked, twenty two million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>is a lot of money for any athletic department. It's

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<v Speaker 2>going to give these guys another year to I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>salvage their situation. Allow me to once again give you

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<v Speaker 2>the daily reminder that if you consider yourself somebody that

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<v Speaker 2>really loves college basketball, and you're not taking advantage of

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<v Speaker 2>all these great matchups, these great games we've got going

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<v Speaker 2>on here in November. I mean you're missing out. You

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<v Speaker 2>are missing out. I mean, yesterday what an insane day,

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<v Speaker 2>an evening in fact, morning of college basketball. One game

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<v Speaker 2>tipped off at midnight last night, a crazy finish there.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, I feel like it's my duty as somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who loves college basketball, probably more than most. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot of you guys are in the same boat.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you're not obsessed with it and you don't nerd

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<v Speaker 2>out for the sport like I do. However, the proof

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<v Speaker 2>is there. We watch more college hoops than anybody, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would encourage you to really look around. Right if

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<v Speaker 2>you pop open your sports betting app, ESPN app, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it may be, you could use good old fashioned Google

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<v Speaker 2>and just look at the college basketball schedule for the

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<v Speaker 2>day and tomorrow, and I think you may be prized

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<v Speaker 2>how awesome the matchups are out there. Now, one result

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<v Speaker 2>that we talked about yesterday because I completely missed it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest with you here. I am claiming I

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<v Speaker 2>love college basketball and it's such a passion of mine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet I have to admit I didn't even know that

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<v Speaker 2>Yukon and Memphis were playing yesterday. I knew both were

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<v Speaker 2>in the field for MAUI. But I just I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>paying attention that that game actually tipped off while while

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<v Speaker 2>we were on the air. And as you likely know,

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<v Speaker 2>Yukon team that has won two consecutive national championships, they

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<v Speaker 2>did get upset in overtime yesterday against Memphis, and there

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<v Speaker 2>really had a whole lot of talk about should there

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<v Speaker 2>be concerns about Yukon, which would be ridiculous. I mean, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>not a good look to lose to Memphis, who's unranked.

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<v Speaker 2>But still, I mean, these kind of losses happen, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anybody'd be shocked if you get to

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the year and Yukon is the favorite

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<v Speaker 2>to still win the National championship for the third consecutive time. However,

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<v Speaker 2>the talk about this is not about again Yukon and

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<v Speaker 2>their team are really how it happened. It's about Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Hurley and how he acted, which he was a lunatic.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he was a madman. I mean, he got

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<v Speaker 2>a technical. You can clearly see some of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that he was saying to the officials and some of

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<v Speaker 2>the things he was saying to Penny Hardaway, the Memphis

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<v Speaker 2>head coach, and you know, his behavior was was wild,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'd be a liar if I told you that

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<v Speaker 2>it bothered me and that like I was turned off

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<v Speaker 2>by it to where I don't want to watch Yukon

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<v Speaker 2>or that he's you know, he's a disgrace because one,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really care how coaches act. To beyond it,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it just doesn't do It doesn't impact me.

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<v Speaker 2>But it did seem like a different Dan Hurley. Now

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<v Speaker 2>he's a competitor. He's always kind of been prickly, to

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<v Speaker 2>put it lightly, that's just kind of his personality. That's

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<v Speaker 2>his demeanor. And yesterday it was that times thirty. It

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<v Speaker 2>seems so maybe it's a one off, or maybe this

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<v Speaker 2>is just how Dan Hurley is going to act now

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<v Speaker 2>that he is essentially running college basketball. Turns down Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 2>turns down the Lakers, stays at Yukon could win his

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<v Speaker 2>third consecutive title. Who knows how many this guy wins

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<v Speaker 2>when it's all said and done. And he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>behave in a way that nobody else does and it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna bother people. And I'm not saying he will do that,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, if he does do that, I can't say

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm gonna be surprised. But to me, the reaction

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<v Speaker 2>not only from the casuals out there, just college hoops

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<v Speaker 2>fans talking about it on Twitter or whatnot, but also

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<v Speaker 2>those who like cover the sport nationally. Like, I think

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<v Speaker 2>his behavior after that game, I mean, I guess during

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<v Speaker 2>the gay man after the game, it almost gave people

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<v Speaker 2>a pass to say what they really think about him.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he has been on top of the sport for

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<v Speaker 2>the last couple of years, and he's I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 2>a made man now. He could retire now and be

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<v Speaker 2>a legend, just because you determine who's legend, who is

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<v Speaker 2>legendary by winning national championship. This guy's won two of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Not many have won more than one. Not many have

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<v Speaker 2>won won to be honest with you, so like maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't cool or acceptable to kind of be anti

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<v Speaker 2>Danny Hurley because you know, he's the he's the new

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<v Speaker 2>star in the sport. But I feel like yesterday and

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<v Speaker 2>even today, like it's been a big talking point and

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of more people dislike him than

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<v Speaker 2>I realized. But you know, one of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 2>people dislike him is because he's really really good. He

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<v Speaker 2>beat your team. He's got back to back national titles

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe he turned down your school. So I could

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<v Speaker 2>be getting a little bit ahead of myself because maybe

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<v Speaker 2>his behavior, his actions, maybe that was something he'll eventually

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<v Speaker 2>apologize for and we won't see something like that again.

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<v Speaker 2>But I kind of hope we do. And here's why

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<v Speaker 2>we all need a villain. Villains are important, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure college basketball really has a villain. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>coach k kind of felt like that. I mean he

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<v Speaker 2>was more so just disliked because of you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>was whiny and you know, the Doukie brand, and honestly

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<v Speaker 2>because he was really good and successful. I think John

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<v Speaker 2>Caliperry is a villain in college basketball and has been

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<v Speaker 2>even going back to his days at Memphis and UMass

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, teflon John, he did have two final

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<v Speaker 2>fours vacated, and that made it look like a bad guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Got to keep in mind college basketball, college sports was

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<v Speaker 2>so different way back then, and to be fair to him,

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<v Speaker 2>it never really I mean Marcus Camby and Derreck Rose,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, those two things happened and it didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>become something that stuck with him forever. He went to Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was really really good, won a title, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have any NCAA issues, and he was arrogant. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's kind of been a bad guy slash villain.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, I don't mean any of this on like

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<v Speaker 2>a personal level. I'm just talking about, you know, from

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<v Speaker 2>an entertainment perspective, Cal used to just be this coach

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<v Speaker 2>that people thought was a shady crook because again, what

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<v Speaker 2>happened with those two guys, Derrick Rose at Memphis and

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus Camby at UMass. But then he goes to Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>and he was really really good from the jump for

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<v Speaker 2>about what five six years, and he was really really arrogant.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think it was just Louisville fans that

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<v Speaker 2>found Cal to be the perfect villain because he was

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<v Speaker 2>that for us. But I think from a college basketball perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>he really embraced the you're either going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>diehard Kentucky fan and you're one of us, or you're

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<v Speaker 2>the enemy and we're gonna do everything we can to

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<v Speaker 2>make you not like us. Like I think even Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>fans would agree that Cali Perry kind of had that

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<v Speaker 2>vibe for a while. And then you know, he kind

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<v Speaker 2>of fell off, and I just don't see CAL being

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<v Speaker 2>relevant enough to be like the villain moving forward in

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<v Speaker 2>college basketball, and I think Danny Hurley would be great

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<v Speaker 2>at it. Now, I gotta be honest with you. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't dislike him, and I don't really have an issue

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<v Speaker 2>with anything yesterday. I mean, obviously you shouldn't act like

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<v Speaker 2>that and not expect to get a technical. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself, as I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think Danny Hurley could be a great villain

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<v Speaker 2>that could bring more eyeballs to college basketball if they

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<v Speaker 2>keep winning at a really high level, and he, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>continues to give us just a little bit of what

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<v Speaker 2>we saw yesterday in Maui. So just to heads up,

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<v Speaker 2>we are going to take a break a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>earlier than we typically do because we've got cl Brown

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<v Speaker 2>of the Courier Journals set to join us here on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side, and I want to make sure I

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<v Speaker 2>leave as much time as possible with our converce we

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<v Speaker 2>have each week with cl not only on this Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>matchup Tomorro against Indiana, but obviously the Governor's Cup game

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<v Speaker 2>as well. But just quickly some thoughts on my end.

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned this just a few minutes ago, that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to check the temperature, check the pulls of both

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<v Speaker 2>fan bases, and obviously it's a little bit easier for

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<v Speaker 2>me to do that on the Louisville side than the

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky side. But you know, I don't think either team

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<v Speaker 2>is overly confident in this matchup. I really don't. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Louisville fans are fully aware of their team being

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<v Speaker 2>good enough to beat Kentucky. I mean, it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>question of Okay, are we can can we do it?

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<v Speaker 2>It's more so like will you do it? Will you

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<v Speaker 2>play to your best ability? And if so, they should

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<v Speaker 2>win this game and it really shouldn't be that tough.

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<v Speaker 2>But as I've said, I don't Thinkentucky's a one and

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<v Speaker 2>seven sec team four and seven overall, because they're just

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<v Speaker 2>lousy when it comes to talent. But either way, eleven

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<v Speaker 2>games in they've been a lousy team and Louisville should

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<v Speaker 2>be able to take advantage of that. So as of

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<v Speaker 2>now Tuesday afternoon, I feel like Louisville fans are confident,

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<v Speaker 2>but they know that this team could mess around and

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<v Speaker 2>give the game away. Kind of like they did last year.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't want to act like Kentucky didn't make

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<v Speaker 2>plays needed to win that game at ellen N Cardinal

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<v Speaker 2>Stadium last year. They did. I mean, Ray Davis had

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<v Speaker 2>himself a hell of a day. That Special Team's touchdown

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<v Speaker 2>from Barry and Brown, I mean that was I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>those were big plays that they made, but Louisville was

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<v Speaker 2>in control and really shouldn't have have lost the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Credit to Kentucky for that, but Louisville really just you

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<v Speaker 2>know gay fans who claim, well, it doesn't matter, we

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<v Speaker 2>won't beat Kentucky because we'll shoot ourselves in the foot

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<v Speaker 2>or we won't come ready to play. That's just what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year's game gives those people more evidence that that

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<v Speaker 2>may be true, that were cursed, which I don't believe that,

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<v Speaker 2>but again, last year was the best example of why

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<v Speaker 2>some fans just think the football gods will never let

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville beat Kentucky again in football. On the Kentucky side,

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<v Speaker 2>I do get a sense that they aren't worried that

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<v Speaker 2>they could play well and beat Louisville because in their mind,

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville just thinks they're lousy. They play in the ACC,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way they could be any good. But they

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<v Speaker 2>also know their team sucks this year. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care what fan base you are, you're gonna get up

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<v Speaker 2>for your rival, but you're also going to realize eleven

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<v Speaker 2>games in like who you are, and they know that

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<v Speaker 2>they I mean, look, a lot of these fans want

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<v Speaker 2>Stoops gone, and he's not leaving. I could sense a

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<v Speaker 2>sneaky quiet confidence from them last year, meaning the Kentucky fans,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really get that this year. And again it's

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<v Speaker 2>because this year they're not nearly as good as they

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<v Speaker 2>were last year. Because they're that bad this year. And

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<v Speaker 2>I have got some pushback from Kentucky fans that say

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<v Speaker 2>that a win against Louisville won't change anything for them

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to Mark Stoops. And I'm sure a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of them believe that and mean that when they

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<v Speaker 2>say it now. But I say this all the time

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<v Speaker 2>to both fan bases. Never underestimate and never be ashamed

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<v Speaker 2>of what this game does for you as a fan

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<v Speaker 2>base when it comes to the emotional impact. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't mean like we're all going to cry ourselves to sleep,

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<v Speaker 2>but Louisville going eight and four this year most would

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<v Speaker 2>have said before the season started, Yeah, that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>feels underwhelming. But again, if you've beat Clemson for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time, which has already happened, and you finally end

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<v Speaker 2>this streak to Kentucky even though they're not good this year,

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<v Speaker 2>I think fans are going to be really happy. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think Kentucky fans that are already really negative about

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Stoops and really really just turned off by him

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<v Speaker 2>being the guy moving forward, they don't feel like the

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<v Speaker 2>future is really bright with him moving forward. I think

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<v Speaker 2>their level of frustration and just being done with Mark Stoops,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it hits a way different level if they

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<v Speaker 2>lose this game, especially if it's ugly, like I think

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be louder than it's ever been, louder than people

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<v Speaker 2>knew possible as far as fans just saying, we're done

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<v Speaker 2>with this guy, but we'll see, we shall see. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>quick break, cel Brown or the Courier Journal joins us

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<v Speaker 2>next right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. You're listening

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<v Speaker 2>to Coffee and Company with Nick Coffee on Sports Talk

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<v Speaker 2>seven ninety. All right, welcome back in Coffee and Company,

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<v Speaker 2>fuel by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety and

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<v Speaker 2>joining us once again from the Courier Journal, Mister C. L.

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<v Speaker 2>Brown cl Obviously, I want to get your thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things, but mostly the matchup tomorrow as

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<v Speaker 2>the Cards get set to take on this Indiana team

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<v Speaker 2>in the Battle for Atlantis, and obviously the Governor's Cup

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<v Speaker 2>game coming up this weekend. But we'll start with hoops

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the two games since the Tennessee game, which, man,

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like that was months ago, but they've played

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<v Speaker 2>Bellerman after a ten day break, sluggish start but in

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<v Speaker 2>up pulling away winning that thing by thirty. And then

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<v Speaker 2>obviously a game against Winthrop on Friday, where certainly some

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<v Speaker 2>things that were concerning, but obviously they ended up pulling

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<v Speaker 2>away and not having a whole lot of trouble down

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<v Speaker 2>the stretch. It's tough to really know what you learn

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<v Speaker 2>from those two games just because of the competition. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>this Indiana team is much more closer to Tennessee than

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<v Speaker 2>who you played in between. But was there anything that

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<v Speaker 2>stood out to you that you feel like was a

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<v Speaker 2>sign of growth to where when they do get out

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<v Speaker 2>there against teams like Indiana, they'll be better prepared look

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<v Speaker 2>better than they did against Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think it's been a lot of confirmation kind

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<v Speaker 1>of just the way that they defend and the way

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<v Speaker 1>that they fight. You know, I think obviously it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good sign against anybody that they're going to end up

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<v Speaker 1>playing because it's consistent. You don't really see them get

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<v Speaker 1>frustrated or get down during the kind of the choppy

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<v Speaker 1>water parts of the games. They stick to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they stick to the system, They stick to what they've

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<v Speaker 1>been taught.

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<v Speaker 3>And keep at it.

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<v Speaker 1>There is one thing that kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's a concern I.

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<v Speaker 1>Would go that far, but I think Trucky Hepburn should

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<v Speaker 1>take a larger role.

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<v Speaker 3>And then in the offense, I think he's got the

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<v Speaker 3>skill set. I think he's got the experience his more

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<v Speaker 3>than he does and and kind of I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously he's gonna make plays for other people consistently, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just think I think the offense would work better

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<v Speaker 1>if he was looking for himself a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally agree. And he's looked fine throughout the first

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<v Speaker 2>few games, and I'm somewhat familiar with him from his

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<v Speaker 2>time at Wisconsin. I remember watching him certainly a good player,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just don't really feel like he's He hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>looked uncomfortable, but I also don't feel like he's looked comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he's just trying to grasp what

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<v Speaker 2>is being asked of him, but I think it seems

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<v Speaker 2>pretty obvious that if he's a little bit more empowered,

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<v Speaker 2>if you, you know, hand him the key, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that could that could you know that

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<v Speaker 2>that would be a good thing for this team? Have

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<v Speaker 2>you gotten any sense as to what has kind of

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<v Speaker 2>kept that from happening, Because I don't think it's just

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<v Speaker 2>you and I. They kind of feel like, Hey, this

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<v Speaker 2>guy's got some ability to to create not only for

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<v Speaker 2>his teammates but for himself. He's a pretty talented player.

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<v Speaker 2>He's played two years three years or so. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if it was two years or three years in

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Ten, because I think that's starting to be

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<v Speaker 2>an obvious thing that a lot of people see, And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not really sure if we should expect it to

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<v Speaker 2>happen or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not sure. Like I feel like Pat Kelsey

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<v Speaker 1>empowers all of these guys within the confines of the

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<v Speaker 1>offense to you know, I don't think he judges over

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<v Speaker 1>who's taking what shots, but I wonder if I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if it's just touching CNA where he's never really been

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<v Speaker 1>in that role before, to to really try and be

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<v Speaker 1>a big score and you know, be more of the

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<v Speaker 1>shot maker in the offense as opposed to just a distributor.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also think that's probably probably a percentage where

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<v Speaker 1>it's this is still a very new team, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>playing with new guys, and him just trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure everybody is getting everybody's eating, everybody's getting into the

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<v Speaker 1>flow of it, and not wanting to be a ball

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<v Speaker 1>For lack of a better way to sum it up,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if kind of all of those factors, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>have have made him play the way he's playing now.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think as the season is going on,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just kind of the more games they get under

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<v Speaker 1>a belt, the more that they understand what needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be done and who needs to do what, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we will see those steps start to be taken by

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think even in it wasn't against a

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<v Speaker 2>team that you're going to the type of team you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to face tomorrow in Indiana. But I just think

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of who is who against, he did some things

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<v Speaker 2>offensively against Bellerman and at times against Winthrop that I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like we hadn't seen, you know, consistently. Right, He's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of getting in his bag a little bit offensively,

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<v Speaker 2>and all that should do is given more confidence to

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully then be more aggressive, because I just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>feel like if Louisville's going to be a team that

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<v Speaker 2>that can be sniffing for the NCAA tournament, I have

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<v Speaker 2>a hard time thinking he's not going to be one

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<v Speaker 2>of the bigger factors, and not just as a guy

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<v Speaker 2>who's running the show and running your team and getting

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<v Speaker 2>others involved, but a guy who's also being an offensive

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<v Speaker 2>weapon for you as well. Now, one thing that has

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<v Speaker 2>really stood out in these last few games is it

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<v Speaker 2>really doesn't even have to be from the stat sheet

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<v Speaker 2>because you can just look at this team that they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a big physical presence like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>teams have. Indiana's got Umar Balo, who is probably one

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<v Speaker 2>of the bigger guys in college basketball pound for pound.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know, if you've got to I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I don't think there's a perfect scenario to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of neutralize the advantage that they're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the physicality department. But what can

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<v Speaker 2>you mean, This team's not adding anybody, right, even if

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<v Speaker 2>they get guys healthy. I think obviously Trey Olray can

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<v Speaker 2>be a big help for you defensively and on the glass,

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, this team is who it is when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to front court players. How would you counter

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<v Speaker 2>that if you're if you're Pat Kelsey, obviously you can

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<v Speaker 2>use it to your advantage at times. But we saw

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<v Speaker 2>against Tennessee, you know, against teams that are big and

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<v Speaker 2>physical and really want to use that as as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>use that to their advantage. It's I mean, it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>work last time out. We saw them play against a

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<v Speaker 2>team like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, to me, the out school that is for all

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<v Speaker 3>those guys have.

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<v Speaker 1>Them on the perimeter trying to defend him and make

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<v Speaker 1>shots and make it to where maybe Mike Woodson has

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<v Speaker 1>to go smaller or you know, whoever the opponent ends

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<v Speaker 1>up in the future, like to make them the opponent

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<v Speaker 1>have to adjust to Louisville's lineup. Because I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>see a good like you said, they're not adding anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really see a good alternative way to try

420
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<v Speaker 1>and combat that. It's just going to be something I

421
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<v Speaker 1>have to live with, which which brings me to another

422
00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:06.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of concern about this team is the rebounding.

423
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<v Speaker 3>Aspect of it.

424
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<v Speaker 1>That kind of goes hand in and a lot of

425
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<v Speaker 1>times with with having those big front court presents a

426
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<v Speaker 1>big front front court president. I think that, uh, they're

427
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<v Speaker 1>going to have to do it back committee, and it's

428
00:21:20.519 --> 00:21:24.079
<v Speaker 1>something that could end up being a big either an

429
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<v Speaker 1>achilles heel for this team or or they could you know,

430
00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:28.240
<v Speaker 1>they can.

431
00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:32.599
<v Speaker 3>Compensate enough of it to get over in games.

432
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<v Speaker 1>But I think rebounding is going to be a big

433
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<v Speaker 1>key moving forward as well.

434
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's certainly never going to be a strength for him.

435
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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't I wouldn't think, But you just got to

436
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<v Speaker 2>figure out how, you know, how much does it hurt

437
00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:43.880
<v Speaker 2>you and how much can you can you you know,

438
00:21:43.960 --> 00:21:45.759
<v Speaker 2>get better at it. I think you're right, they're going

439
00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:47.759
<v Speaker 2>to clearly have to do it by committee, and there

440
00:21:47.799 --> 00:21:49.400
<v Speaker 2>are a handful of guys on this team that I

441
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<v Speaker 2>feel like when you're looking I think the way Pat

442
00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:54.039
<v Speaker 2>Kelsey described it, and he actually said this earlier Dennis

443
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<v Speaker 2>press conference. If you look at the back of somebody's cards,

444
00:21:56.160 --> 00:21:58.119
<v Speaker 2>their basketball card, you know, what, what's it going to

445
00:21:58.160 --> 00:21:59.960
<v Speaker 2>say about them that makes it stand out. I think

446
00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:01.799
<v Speaker 2>there's a handful of these guys we're rebounding as a

447
00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:03.319
<v Speaker 2>part of it, but I don't know if they've ever

448
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<v Speaker 2>really been tasked with being like responsible for the glass.

449
00:22:06.319 --> 00:22:08.880
<v Speaker 2>And I think at times you see, you know, it's

450
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<v Speaker 2>not like they're not trying, but it's just there's not

451
00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:12.519
<v Speaker 2>the instincts to, hey, we got to box out every

452
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<v Speaker 2>single guy because we're already physically at a disadvantage on

453
00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:18.480
<v Speaker 2>the glass. And hopefully that's something that they do pick up.

454
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<v Speaker 2>I think Javon Hadley, you know, I think he's kind

455
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<v Speaker 2>of a natural rebounder and I think he works his

456
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<v Speaker 2>tail off. That's something he's gifted at, just kind of

457
00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:27.160
<v Speaker 2>having a knack for knowing where to be before anybody else.

458
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<v Speaker 2>But I also feel like that's kind of concerning if

459
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<v Speaker 2>he's your biggest presence on the backboard.

460
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think was the name I was going to

461
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<v Speaker 1>bring up as well in terms of somebody who has

462
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<v Speaker 1>has that knack for rebounding. But yeah, if he ends

463
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<v Speaker 1>up being the leading rebounder, then that probably.

464
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<v Speaker 3>Won't vote well for U l and in terms of

465
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<v Speaker 3>their numbers and.

466
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<v Speaker 1>Offense of keeping opponents off the offensive glass as well.

467
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<v Speaker 1>So they're definitely going to have to figure that out out,

468
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<v Speaker 1>probably sooner.

469
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<v Speaker 3>Than later, no doubt about it.

470
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<v Speaker 2>Cel Brown of the Courier Journal is our guest joining

471
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<v Speaker 2>us here on Sports Talk seven to ninety. Let's talk

472
00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:12.000
<v Speaker 2>about this Indiana team. They've had one decent test South Carolina,

473
00:23:12.039 --> 00:23:13.480
<v Speaker 2>who's gone off to a rough start, but it is

474
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<v Speaker 2>an SEC team, and I don't know about you. I've

475
00:23:16.680 --> 00:23:18.920
<v Speaker 2>watched him a little bit, even before I watched him play.

476
00:23:19.400 --> 00:23:21.680
<v Speaker 2>I look at their personnel. I think Mike Woodson did

477
00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:24.319
<v Speaker 2>a phenomenal job with this roster. I think he brought

478
00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:26.400
<v Speaker 2>back everybody that would you would want to bring back,

479
00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:28.720
<v Speaker 2>other than the young man who went in the first

480
00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:30.680
<v Speaker 2>round of the draft. The transfer, I can forget his name.

481
00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:34.519
<v Speaker 2>He transferred from Oregon. But outside of that, they then

482
00:23:34.599 --> 00:23:36.079
<v Speaker 2>went to the portal and I think they got the

483
00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:38.559
<v Speaker 2>right pieces. It's still early. Maybe I'm way wrong, but

484
00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:41.079
<v Speaker 2>just from a personnel perspective, I really like this this

485
00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:43.839
<v Speaker 2>Indiana team, Yeah, I do.

486
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<v Speaker 1>I really like the addition of Miles right to that roster.

487
00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:50.359
<v Speaker 1>I was a big fan of his last year, and

488
00:23:51.559 --> 00:23:53.839
<v Speaker 1>he was one of those guys when they entered a portal.

489
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<v Speaker 3>I think he was somebody who could.

490
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<v Speaker 1>Help change transform a team, and I think he having

491
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<v Speaker 1>that kind of impact at IU. UH. I still kind

492
00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:08.599
<v Speaker 1>of feel like he probably should have added more shooting.

493
00:24:09.200 --> 00:24:11.240
<v Speaker 3>Like Woodson, I've.

494
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<v Speaker 1>Never really interacted with him, so I'm not going to

495
00:24:13.559 --> 00:24:17.079
<v Speaker 1>profess to be some you know, a savant on IU

496
00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:21.319
<v Speaker 1>basketball right now, but I just feel like he's more

497
00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:26.160
<v Speaker 1>still in the old school mold of thinking, where oh

498
00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:30.160
<v Speaker 1>he's certainly not Yeah, he's not really going to analytics,

499
00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:34.079
<v Speaker 1>and he's not really opening up to to really utilizing

500
00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:38.279
<v Speaker 1>the three point line. And you know, I don't know

501
00:24:38.359 --> 00:24:41.240
<v Speaker 1>if that's gonna end up hurting them or not down

502
00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:45.240
<v Speaker 1>the road, But that's the one thing on his roster

503
00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:47.440
<v Speaker 1>when he was putting it together that I feel like

504
00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:52.319
<v Speaker 1>he probably could have added more shooting than he didn't.

505
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they don't shoot a ton of threes, but but

506
00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:57.799
<v Speaker 2>the ones that you know so far, they're shooting somewhat

507
00:24:57.799 --> 00:24:59.559
<v Speaker 2>of a decent percentage. But yeah, I would I would

508
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<v Speaker 2>say that's probably not going to end up being a

509
00:25:01.759 --> 00:25:03.599
<v Speaker 2>strength of this team, and I guess maybe just kind

510
00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:05.680
<v Speaker 2>of thinking out loud here, maybe that could be an

511
00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:08.039
<v Speaker 2>advantage for Louisville in this matchup, as if the game

512
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<v Speaker 2>is played at their pace and they're able to get

513
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<v Speaker 2>off to a good start, I think Indiana will run

514
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<v Speaker 2>with them. And I think they've got some good athletes

515
00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:16.519
<v Speaker 2>that could could make maybe make it a problem for Louisville,

516
00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:18.680
<v Speaker 2>just because there's a lot of talent on this Indiana team.

517
00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:21.119
<v Speaker 2>But maybe they get into maybe they get into taking

518
00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:23.039
<v Speaker 2>the bait and shooting a bunch of threes like Louisville,

519
00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:25.200
<v Speaker 2>who of course wants to do that, And maybe maybe

520
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<v Speaker 2>that again wishful thinking on mine as a Louisville fan myself,

521
00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:30.039
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean I'm looking now. The numbers are

522
00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:33.119
<v Speaker 2>a little misleading because they've got guys shooting forty to

523
00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:36.319
<v Speaker 2>fifty something percent, but they've taken like eight shots all year.

524
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, So it's good when you can get that

525
00:25:43.480 --> 00:25:46.440
<v Speaker 1>high percentage, though, when you know if you're.

526
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<v Speaker 3>Needing it, needing someone to make it.

527
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<v Speaker 1>I do think with Louisville taking as many as they do,

528
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<v Speaker 1>I still for me, I would like to see the

529
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<v Speaker 1>right people shooting and I don't think I know case

530
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<v Speaker 1>and prior was like thirty five percent last year South Florida.

531
00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:08.680
<v Speaker 1>But he's I don't I want to say, don't have

532
00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:11.400
<v Speaker 1>the steps in front of me. But he's not shooting

533
00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:14.720
<v Speaker 1>it well. And and if I were Pat Kelsey, I

534
00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:17.680
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't let him shoot it until he hits a certain

535
00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:21.920
<v Speaker 1>clips of consistency in practice, because I don't think it's

536
00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the right shot for him. Like to me, you got

537
00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:27.519
<v Speaker 1>to prove you can make it, like it's not just

538
00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:31.640
<v Speaker 1>the shot is open, take it. You know, I only

539
00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:33.200
<v Speaker 1>trust a handful of guys on.

540
00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:35.200
<v Speaker 3>This team shooting threes.

541
00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Of course Ryan Smith would be the number one guy,

542
00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:44.079
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I just think prior to shooting threes

543
00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:46.880
<v Speaker 1>is if I'm the opposing coach, I'd let him do

544
00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:49.680
<v Speaker 1>it all day, and you know he would have to

545
00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:50.440
<v Speaker 1>beat me that way.

546
00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:54.960
<v Speaker 2>You're saying from three point range is not impressive. So far,

547
00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:58.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm with you, and I think you know he's going

548
00:26:58.359 --> 00:27:00.240
<v Speaker 2>to be the guy that I'll go back to something

549
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:02.279
<v Speaker 2>one of my coaches used to say to some of

550
00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:04.039
<v Speaker 2>our guys who if they were open, they would let it.

551
00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:06.079
<v Speaker 2>They would just fire away. And you know, he would

552
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:07.960
<v Speaker 2>time's call a time out and say, do you realize

553
00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:09.960
<v Speaker 2>there is a reason you are open this? That is

554
00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:12.319
<v Speaker 2>what they want you to do. And I kind of

555
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:16.039
<v Speaker 2>think with the way Pat coaches and obviously he's empowering everybody.

556
00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:18.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, honestly, I don't know if there's a guy

557
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:21.079
<v Speaker 2>that technically if it's in like if it's it's if

558
00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:23.920
<v Speaker 2>it's within their system and it's a it's you know,

559
00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:27.200
<v Speaker 2>it's in rhythm and you got a good decent look.

560
00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:29.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure there's anybody he's telling not to shoot.

561
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:31.279
<v Speaker 2>But I would do the exact same thing, because you

562
00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:33.440
<v Speaker 2>have guys that can shoot it. But I'm not sure

563
00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:35.960
<v Speaker 2>like that's that's what they bring, that's their that's their

564
00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:38.359
<v Speaker 2>biggest weapon. In case in Pryor. I mean, he might

565
00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:40.160
<v Speaker 2>make some threes this year. He can knock it down

566
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:42.720
<v Speaker 2>every now and then, But you know, if he's going

567
00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:44.880
<v Speaker 2>to be a guy that helps Louisville be a tournament

568
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:47.359
<v Speaker 2>caliber team, I don't think it'll because he's knocking down threes.

569
00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:48.480
<v Speaker 2>It'll because of everything else.

570
00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:53.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I will say, I mean I love his game,

571
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:55.160
<v Speaker 1>and you know I wrote a columns saying he should

572
00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:57.599
<v Speaker 1>be in the starting lineup, you know, off the top,

573
00:27:57.640 --> 00:27:59.880
<v Speaker 1>because he's one of their five bests clearly.

574
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:01.480
<v Speaker 3>And brings a lot of energy.

575
00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:03.119
<v Speaker 1>With what he does. And I will say in his

576
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:05.119
<v Speaker 1>defense because I don't want to say like I'm picking

577
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:09.480
<v Speaker 1>on him, I haven't seen him take bad threes, like

578
00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:12.880
<v Speaker 1>just like out of you know, he's not in the

579
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:15.240
<v Speaker 1>flow of the offense, or it's just kind of out

580
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:17.960
<v Speaker 1>of the blue, or he's being selfish or anything like that.

581
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:20.359
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen him take those kind of threes. But

582
00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:23.839
<v Speaker 1>I do think, you know, when it comes back to

583
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:27.119
<v Speaker 1>the stats of it, and when you're not hitting at

584
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:29.440
<v Speaker 1>a high clip, then I don't think you should take them.

585
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:31.640
<v Speaker 3>So you know, that's just me.

586
00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:35.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm with you, And I haven't seen many of them

587
00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:38.039
<v Speaker 2>other than against Tennessee whenever it was really tough to

588
00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:40.279
<v Speaker 2>see because they were at times having to throw him

589
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:42.440
<v Speaker 2>up because they were just defended so well and shot

590
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:45.480
<v Speaker 2>clock was running out. But this could be a product

591
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:47.440
<v Speaker 2>of maybe why he has shot as many as he has,

592
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:49.960
<v Speaker 2>because there's two that I can think of that were

593
00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:51.759
<v Speaker 2>not good shots and he made both of them, and

594
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:54.160
<v Speaker 2>I think that might have you know, that's sometimes guys

595
00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:57.000
<v Speaker 2>have one fall like that and it just becomes they

596
00:28:57.079 --> 00:28:58.839
<v Speaker 2>just think that's gonna you know, it's gonna always be

597
00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:02.000
<v Speaker 2>that way. But look, Case and Pryor should start. I'm

598
00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:05.240
<v Speaker 2>with you, and I don't think I mean, if he

599
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:07.839
<v Speaker 2>is paying attention to what a lot of people are

600
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:09.400
<v Speaker 2>saying about him, I don't think. I hope he doesn't

601
00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:11.079
<v Speaker 2>see it as anybody picking on him. I think everybody

602
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:13.359
<v Speaker 2>just realizes, hey, there's a lot of good players on

603
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:15.480
<v Speaker 2>this team, but he's somebody that I feel like, again,

604
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:17.279
<v Speaker 2>if Louisvill's in a position late where they're fighting for

605
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:18.960
<v Speaker 2>a spot in the tournament, he's going to have to be.

606
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:22.000
<v Speaker 2>In fact, I'll have this as my last question on

607
00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:23.759
<v Speaker 2>basketball before we get to the Governor's Cup game. But

608
00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:25.880
<v Speaker 2>doesn't it feel like, you know, the core of this

609
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:29.039
<v Speaker 2>team is going to be Case and Pryor, Terrence Edwards

610
00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:31.480
<v Speaker 2>and Chucky Hepburn Like obviously Rain Smith's going to be

611
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:34.519
<v Speaker 2>a big factor. He's super important. We talked about Javon Hadley,

612
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:35.960
<v Speaker 2>and there's other guys that are going to play, and

613
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:38.000
<v Speaker 2>who knows when you get Orin Johnson back in Trey Ora,

614
00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:40.279
<v Speaker 2>who knows what that is. But I kind of feel like,

615
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:42.680
<v Speaker 2>as of now, even though it's early, those three are

616
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:45.599
<v Speaker 2>kind of going to be more important maybe than anybody.

617
00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:49.720
<v Speaker 1>No, I would definitely agree with that. I just think

618
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:52.319
<v Speaker 1>they those are the three I would say who kind

619
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:55.279
<v Speaker 1>of sets the temperature and set the pace for the

620
00:29:55.400 --> 00:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>team and everyone else kind that goes as they as

621
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:03.759
<v Speaker 1>of right now. Who knows if somebody really emerges to

622
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:07.759
<v Speaker 1>change that later. But like with Hadley, I thought he

623
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>would be one of those guys too, but he really

624
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:13.640
<v Speaker 1>just kind of fits in as more as a more

625
00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:16.960
<v Speaker 1>of a utility guy who you feel you feel like

626
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>you can depend on him.

627
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:21.079
<v Speaker 3>But it's not like he's not.

628
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:24.759
<v Speaker 1>Really going out and being a trailblazer out there, you know.

629
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<v Speaker 1>He's more like just kind of fitting in with his role.

630
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:29.400
<v Speaker 2>He's not setting the tone.

631
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:32.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, totally agree. All right.

632
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:36.160
<v Speaker 2>So this Govenor's Cup match up Louisville and Kentucky, two

633
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:39.880
<v Speaker 2>teams that have had really made totally different seasons. To

634
00:30:39.920 --> 00:30:42.759
<v Speaker 2>be honest, obviously, both are a little bit underwhelmed, given

635
00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:45.319
<v Speaker 2>that expectations for Louisville were higher than where they are

636
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:48.200
<v Speaker 2>right now. Obviously, Kentucky's had one of their worst seasons

637
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:51.720
<v Speaker 2>in the Mark Stoops era. I don't know if there's

638
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:55.400
<v Speaker 2>a result that could happen that would like totally surprise me,

639
00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:58.200
<v Speaker 2>because I think Louisville has shown the ability to go

640
00:30:58.279 --> 00:31:01.279
<v Speaker 2>beat a Clemson and you know, that win still looks

641
00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:03.240
<v Speaker 2>pretty good and it's still something that very few people,

642
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:04.960
<v Speaker 2>very few teams have done in the last decade to

643
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:07.519
<v Speaker 2>beat them at their place on a Saturday night. But

644
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:10.240
<v Speaker 2>they also can come out flat, sleepwalk, and then make

645
00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:12.279
<v Speaker 2>all kinds of critical mistakes to lose a game to

646
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:15.480
<v Speaker 2>a team like Stanford Kentucky. They are a team that

647
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:18.720
<v Speaker 2>has been bad. I mean, by by definition winning and losing,

648
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:20.440
<v Speaker 2>they've lost a lot of games. They're one and seven

649
00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:23.400
<v Speaker 2>in the SEC. They didn't beat a team at home

650
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:25.160
<v Speaker 2>this year that they didn't pay to come in there

651
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:27.799
<v Speaker 2>and take a butt whooping. But I also know that

652
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:30.279
<v Speaker 2>their talent level is not why they're one and seven

653
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:32.279
<v Speaker 2>in the SEC. I think they're a team that you know,

654
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:33.559
<v Speaker 2>it's what it could have should have. But I think

655
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:35.680
<v Speaker 2>they their fans have a reason to be really upset

656
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:37.359
<v Speaker 2>this year because there's just no reason for them to

657
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:40.000
<v Speaker 2>be this bad as far as their record. So I

658
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:42.119
<v Speaker 2>kind of feel like there's no result that would ultimately

659
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:44.960
<v Speaker 2>surprise me. But as we are getting closer to this matchup,

660
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:45.880
<v Speaker 2>what's your feel for it?

661
00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's funny. I feel like, as kind of alluded to,

662
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky haven't played well at home against in winnable games

663
00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:58.240
<v Speaker 1>like the second game of the year when they played

664
00:31:58.279 --> 00:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>South Carolina, and I think South lines playing head and

665
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:03.039
<v Speaker 1>shoulders about Kentucky at this point.

666
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:07.920
<v Speaker 3>But back then we two. You know that's the game

667
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:13.160
<v Speaker 3>you have to win at home if if you're Kentucky, Yes,

668
00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:14.400
<v Speaker 3>I think it was.

669
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:17.839
<v Speaker 1>And you know you have that game, the Vanderbilt game

670
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>and Auburn team that hadn't won a game and was

671
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:24.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of reeling when they came in to Lexington. Those

672
00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:29.319
<v Speaker 1>three games are all beatable teams, you know, winnable fifty

673
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:31.680
<v Speaker 1>to fifty kind of games. I looked at before the

674
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:35.359
<v Speaker 1>season started as as Kentucky's got to win those, and

675
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:39.160
<v Speaker 1>you know they they laid an egg against South Carolina

676
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:42.000
<v Speaker 1>and Auburn, and you know they they played well enough

677
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>in that bandy game but still lost that. So I

678
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:47.920
<v Speaker 1>look at those kind of things. I do feel like

679
00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:52.559
<v Speaker 1>the strength of this game, the strength matchup is Louisville's

680
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:56.880
<v Speaker 1>offense against UK defense. Those are the best units for

681
00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:01.400
<v Speaker 1>each team. So so if we're calling that even then

682
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>I think the game will come down to what plays

683
00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Louisville's defense can make against Kentucky's offense. And if it's

684
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:11.119
<v Speaker 1>the Louisville defense that we saw against Pittsburgh, Louisville's gonna

685
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:14.079
<v Speaker 1>win the game. If it's the Louisville defense that played

686
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:15.440
<v Speaker 1>against Stanford.

687
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:17.119
<v Speaker 3>Then then to know.

688
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:22.200
<v Speaker 1>But also I feel like UK starting a freshman quarterbacks

689
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:24.599
<v Speaker 1>who's never played in this game, even though it is

690
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:27.759
<v Speaker 1>at home, you know, so he does have that bit

691
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:31.160
<v Speaker 1>of an advantage, but you don't know how he's going

692
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:31.640
<v Speaker 1>to react.

693
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:33.839
<v Speaker 3>Will he be overwhelmed by the moment.

694
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:37.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, We'll see, We'll see how he how that

695
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:38.920
<v Speaker 1>all plays out.

696
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:41.559
<v Speaker 3>And I do expect to have some kind of package

697
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:42.559
<v Speaker 3>still to.

698
00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:45.240
<v Speaker 1>Where he runs one of the other quarterbacks out there,

699
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:48.079
<v Speaker 1>and you know, they do something different just to throw

700
00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:49.119
<v Speaker 1>throw U.

701
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:50.119
<v Speaker 3>L off the tense.

702
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:53.240
<v Speaker 1>But all that being said, I'm taking U of L

703
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:56.759
<v Speaker 1>in that game, both to win in to cover for

704
00:33:56.880 --> 00:34:01.519
<v Speaker 1>those who partake, just because I think ultimately they will

705
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:05.240
<v Speaker 1>be able to manufacture points that you know, UK's offense,

706
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:08.320
<v Speaker 1>to me, the UK's offense is let let them down

707
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:12.199
<v Speaker 1>basically the whole season, and I don't think this game

708
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:13.239
<v Speaker 1>will be any different.

709
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and putting a new quarterback out there, despite it

710
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:19.360
<v Speaker 2>being a true freshman, I mean, it does give you,

711
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:21.880
<v Speaker 2>I guess, a better chance for your offense to kind

712
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:24.760
<v Speaker 2>of really start fresh and not think about what's happened

713
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:27.960
<v Speaker 2>in the previous eleven games. But the human elements a

714
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.119
<v Speaker 2>powerful thing. All it's going to take is maybe, you know,

715
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:33.000
<v Speaker 2>a turnover or something, or just some adversity. Maybe Louisville

716
00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:35.599
<v Speaker 2>gets up early, and I think this Kentucky team will

717
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:38.239
<v Speaker 2>be reminded that they've been really underwhelming. I don't want

718
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:39.880
<v Speaker 2>to say they're just going to completely lay down and quit,

719
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:41.800
<v Speaker 2>but that's usually how these kind of things happen. Again,

720
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:43.840
<v Speaker 2>not quitting, but just you know, kind of going through

721
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:46.599
<v Speaker 2>the motions again because you realize, man, this has been

722
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:48.960
<v Speaker 2>it's been such a tough year, and for Louisville. I

723
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:51.480
<v Speaker 2>mean this has really been I mean Louisville for even

724
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:55.599
<v Speaker 2>before Jeff Brohm, I mean even before Sadderfield, during Bobby's

725
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:58.000
<v Speaker 2>last stint. I mean, there were games every year that

726
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:00.199
<v Speaker 2>you just knew you had to account I had to

727
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:01.800
<v Speaker 2>throw in a clunker where they were going to play

728
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:03.360
<v Speaker 2>a game that they shouldn't lose and it was going

729
00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:06.239
<v Speaker 2>to happen. That was clearly Stanford. The other three teams

730
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:09.119
<v Speaker 2>they lost to are all good teams, and then from there,

731
00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:09.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean they.

732
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:10.679
<v Speaker 3>Call playoff teams.

733
00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, So you know, it's just I don't think

734
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Liwills had a bad year by any means, but you know,

735
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:19.480
<v Speaker 2>it just maybe hasn't. You know, they haven't been able

736
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:23.119
<v Speaker 2>to put it together in all three phases as consistently

737
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:24.960
<v Speaker 2>as you would have liked. Nobody wants them to be perfect,

738
00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:27.440
<v Speaker 2>but to be you know, I hate giving teams credit for,

739
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:29.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, doing what they're supposed to do and like

740
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:31.840
<v Speaker 2>not quitting. But I do think for them to show

741
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:34.000
<v Speaker 2>that they what they did in the halftime against Boston

742
00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:35.880
<v Speaker 2>College down twenty to nothing kind of felt like the

743
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:38.199
<v Speaker 2>season was crumbling. They bounced back in a major way

744
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:39.360
<v Speaker 2>in the second half and then went on the road

745
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:40.719
<v Speaker 2>and be Clemson. Well then they had one of the

746
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:43.920
<v Speaker 2>most embarrassing collapses you'll ever see in college football at

747
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Stanford as far as the very end of that game.

748
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:48.280
<v Speaker 2>Well then they come out and played phenomenal. You couldn't

749
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:50.320
<v Speaker 2>have asked for a better bounce back against Pittsburgh, So

750
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:52.280
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's nice to know that they can do that.

751
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:53.880
<v Speaker 2>I think that is something that a lot of teams

752
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:55.440
<v Speaker 2>probably wouldn't be able to do, to kind of have

753
00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:57.800
<v Speaker 2>those setbacks and yet regroup and come out and win.

754
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:00.159
<v Speaker 2>But it also makes you just not really know what

755
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:00.840
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna get.

756
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I think we do know what we're gonna get, because,

757
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:11.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, as as maligned as the defense has been,

758
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:15.639
<v Speaker 1>they've really been consistent the second half of the year.

759
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:18.679
<v Speaker 1>If you take away the Stanford game, I feel like

760
00:36:18.800 --> 00:36:23.880
<v Speaker 1>the defense has played well. The SMU game was probably

761
00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:28.559
<v Speaker 1>a one game that I mean, obviously they allowed forty

762
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:32.760
<v Speaker 1>five against Miami, but he looked at the SMU game

763
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:36.519
<v Speaker 1>where they were out of place and looking at the sideline,

764
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:39.599
<v Speaker 1>and you know, as Bromberville later, maybe maybe the calls

765
00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:42.719
<v Speaker 1>were you know, a little too complicated and coming into

766
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.599
<v Speaker 1>late and that kind of thing. So that threw everything off.

767
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:49.840
<v Speaker 1>But I felt like they at least got it together

768
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:52.599
<v Speaker 1>after that, Like we weren't seeing kind of the same

769
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:57.159
<v Speaker 1>problems until that Stanford game. But I think that they

770
00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:02.400
<v Speaker 1>are closer to what we've seen at their best than

771
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:04.599
<v Speaker 1>what we've seen at their worst. And then I also

772
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:08.119
<v Speaker 1>go to the schedule again, like that's what we're gonna

773
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:12.800
<v Speaker 1>get with the super conferences and these imbalance schedule. I

774
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:16.639
<v Speaker 1>mean Louisville's schedule. They ended up playing you know, Miami,

775
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:21.800
<v Speaker 1>SMU Clinton. Those were the top three offenses in the league.

776
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:26.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, and a lot of teams that whose defenses

777
00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:28.599
<v Speaker 1>are ranked higher and everything didn't have to go through

778
00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:33.119
<v Speaker 1>that that gauntlet to prove themselves. So some of it

779
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:35.960
<v Speaker 1>you do have to give credit for other teams and

780
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:37.360
<v Speaker 1>having talent too.

781
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:40.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, you're absolutely right, Ceel, and I'm glad you

782
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:42.639
<v Speaker 2>said that, because you know, when I think of the

783
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:46.199
<v Speaker 2>defense other than Stanford just kind of being underwhelming and

784
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:49.199
<v Speaker 2>not getting it done, I think of Miami and SMU, Well,

785
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:51.679
<v Speaker 2>those are two of the in Miami's number one in

786
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:55.000
<v Speaker 2>the country in scoring offense and SMUs number five in

787
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:57.119
<v Speaker 2>the country. So you know, it's still wasn't the results

788
00:37:57.159 --> 00:37:59.239
<v Speaker 2>you wanted, but you know, most teams were gonna have

789
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:00.800
<v Speaker 2>a tough time, probably a tougher time than you did.

790
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:03.039
<v Speaker 2>Most teams probably wouldn't even even have played those teams

791
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:03.639
<v Speaker 2>within a score.

792
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and really I've said this before, but I go

793
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:12.840
<v Speaker 1>back to it. I mean, if two players are overturned,

794
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:18.400
<v Speaker 1>aren't overturned the fumble the SMU had when they were

795
00:38:18.440 --> 00:38:21.639
<v Speaker 1>going in for the winning score, well what turned out

796
00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:23.559
<v Speaker 1>to be the winning touchdown in that game. If that

797
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:27.400
<v Speaker 1>play isn't overturned and Louisville gets that turnover and gets

798
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:31.440
<v Speaker 1>the ball back and conceivably wins that game, we're talking

799
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:34.239
<v Speaker 1>about a totally different season. Same thing with the Miami

800
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:37.920
<v Speaker 1>scoop and score touchdown that that would have tied that game.

801
00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, who knows if those plays saying what the

802
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:44.159
<v Speaker 1>way we're talking about Louisville and the way we're talking

803
00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:46.000
<v Speaker 1>about their defense, you know, but.

804
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:50.440
<v Speaker 3>Happened. So say that again.

805
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Because it's because you know, for me, it's certainly gonna

806
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:56.840
<v Speaker 2>be a what could have been here because of that.

807
00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:59.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they were playing really good teams and you know,

808
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:01.880
<v Speaker 2>one play here and there that the referees make the

809
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:03.920
<v Speaker 2>judgment call. I mean, it had a big factor in it.

810
00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:06.239
<v Speaker 2>But if you can have your what could have been

811
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:09.199
<v Speaker 2>year not be a terrible year as far as the results,

812
00:39:09.239 --> 00:39:11.119
<v Speaker 2>but you still potentially go eight and four. You beat

813
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:13.039
<v Speaker 2>Clemson for the first time ever, you're in the street

814
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:15.360
<v Speaker 2>to Kentucky. I think most louvill fans will will be

815
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:17.880
<v Speaker 2>satisfied and still feel like they've got some real momentum

816
00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:19.960
<v Speaker 2>in the in the Jeff brahm Ara. But see all

817
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:22.039
<v Speaker 2>as always, I appreciate you making time for us, my man,

818
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:25.280
<v Speaker 2>and enjoy Thanksgiving with the family, and we'll talk soon.

819
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:27.880
<v Speaker 3>Brother, all right, you as well. Thanks Mack.

820
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833
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<v Speaker 2>will be out on Thursday and Friday, so no programming

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<v Speaker 2>will be here tomorrow and I'm hopeful that they will

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<v Speaker 2>allow me to start the show as soon as the

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<v Speaker 2>game ends, so we shall see. There's obviously some people

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<v Speaker 2>that need to make that decision. I don't get the

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<v Speaker 2>ability to make that call, but I'm hopeful that we

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<v Speaker 2>can kind of make it a postgame show combined with

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<v Speaker 2>our regular show. So I have no clue really what

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<v Speaker 2>to expect, but I will say this. I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 2>said it earlier in the week. I was actually on

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<v Speaker 2>John's show, his Indiana show, talking about the matchup, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't expect Louisville to beat Indiana, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that that's out of line. I mean, if they

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<v Speaker 2>do win, it won't be the big shock in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess the Tennessee loss doesn't look nearly as

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<v Speaker 2>bad now that we know Tennessee appears to be pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, they look to be really good. For us

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<v Speaker 2>as fans, this is really a learning experience. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of first times that we're going to experience in

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<v Speaker 2>the year. In year one of the Pat Kelc era,

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<v Speaker 2>they played a really good team in just his second

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<v Speaker 2>career game as the head coach here, and in that game,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't good. They got throttled, they got humbled, not

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<v Speaker 2>a good performance. We all know that. In this game

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<v Speaker 2>against Indiana, it's our first chance to see how they respond. Now, technically,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's not accurate because they did play Bellerman

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<v Speaker 2>and Winthrop in between, but we all know that's really

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<v Speaker 2>not the same thing. So again, I kind of look

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<v Speaker 2>at this as our first chance to see how Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>responds from something that you know, seemingly happened many months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>It hadn't been that long, but man, that Tennessee game

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<v Speaker 2>feels like it was forever ago. So you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>anxious to see where we are, and we'll find out

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow and I'm looking forward to it. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 2>wrap up our number one. In fact, this will be

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<v Speaker 2>our only full hour with you guys today because as

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned earlier, we do have a women's college basketball

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<v Speaker 2>game coming up here before too long. But what I

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<v Speaker 2>want to do is take a quick time out. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>start the four o'clock hour and then we'll hand it

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<v Speaker 2>off to the broadcast team as they get set for coverage.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's about four fifteen or so, so we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see what we can squeeze in in the little time

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<v Speaker 2>we have left. But I will let you guys hear

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<v Speaker 2>what Pat Kelsey had to say earlier this afternoon. They

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<v Speaker 2>arrived yesterday in the Bahamas, and I'm very jealous, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>but we heard from both Pat Kelsey and Chucky Hepburn

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<v Speaker 2>earlier this afternoon as they get set for this matchup

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<v Speaker 2>with Indiana. So again you'll hear that on the other

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<v Speaker 2>side as we keep it rolling along right here. Coffee

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<v Speaker 2>and Company. Philbeth Orton's on Sports Talk seven to ninety