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Speaker 2: Welcome into a Tuesday edition of Coffee and Company, fueled
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Speaker 2: with you, and I'm not gonna be with you as
Speaker 2: long as I typically am. Short show today, we've got
Speaker 2: a women's basketball game coming up. I believe we're out
Speaker 2: of here at about four fifteen, So we're gonna use
Speaker 2: the time we have today and make the most of it.
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Speaker 2: dot com. We're now one day away, in fact, less
Speaker 2: than twenty four hours away from getting a chance to
Speaker 2: see this Louisville basketball team tested for the first time
Speaker 2: since the Tennessee game. Obviously, we'll continue to talk about that.
Speaker 2: We're also a day closer to the Governor's Cup game,
Speaker 2: which I'm trying to check the pulse of both fan
Speaker 2: bases here, and I think I have a pretty good
Speaker 2: feel for how the majority of both fan bases feel
Speaker 2: about this game, and I'm not really sure there's gonna
Speaker 2: be anything that will change how they view this game
Speaker 2: before we get to kick off on Saturday. We do
Speaker 2: have some news that I consider to be pretty big news.
Speaker 2: A power for job opening up kind of unexpectedly, or
Speaker 2: maybe it opened up in a surprising way. Mac Brown
Speaker 2: fired at North Carolina. I think there was some hope
Speaker 2: that he would walk away or retire and just kind
Speaker 2: of move on, and he didn't want to do that,
Speaker 2: so it sounds like they were forced to fire him.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's like big news, But again,
Speaker 2: when a power job opens up and at least one
Speaker 2: school is willing to say that they are willing to
Speaker 2: pay the buy out just to make a change, maybe
Speaker 2: that maybe that influences other programs to do the same thing.
Speaker 2: It certainly seems like this is going to be an
Speaker 2: offseason where coaches that typically would have been fired are
Speaker 2: going to get at least one more year. And the
Speaker 2: obvious reason for that is the twenty two million dollars
Speaker 2: these schools are going to have to start paying these
Speaker 2: athletes directly. I mean, twenty two million is the max,
Speaker 2: and if you're not committing to the maximum amount of money,
Speaker 2: I think you're going to fall behind. And the twenty
Speaker 2: two million is not just going to the football program.
Speaker 2: Most of it probably will. However, it's twenty two million
Speaker 2: dollars that you're allowed to disperse among all of your
Speaker 2: student athletes, so that being an expense that didn't used
Speaker 2: to exist. And last I checked, twenty two million dollars
Speaker 2: is a lot of money for any athletic department. It's
Speaker 2: going to give these guys another year to I guess,
Speaker 2: salvage their situation. Allow me to once again give you
Speaker 2: the daily reminder that if you consider yourself somebody that
Speaker 2: really loves college basketball, and you're not taking advantage of
Speaker 2: all these great matchups, these great games we've got going
Speaker 2: on here in November. I mean you're missing out. You
Speaker 2: are missing out. I mean, yesterday what an insane day,
Speaker 2: an evening in fact, morning of college basketball. One game
Speaker 2: tipped off at midnight last night, a crazy finish there.
Speaker 2: So again, I feel like it's my duty as somebody
Speaker 2: who loves college basketball, probably more than most. I feel
Speaker 2: like a lot of you guys are in the same boat.
Speaker 2: Maybe you're not obsessed with it and you don't nerd
Speaker 2: out for the sport like I do. However, the proof
Speaker 2: is there. We watch more college hoops than anybody, and
Speaker 2: I would encourage you to really look around. Right if
Speaker 2: you pop open your sports betting app, ESPN app, whatever
Speaker 2: it may be, you could use good old fashioned Google
Speaker 2: and just look at the college basketball schedule for the
Speaker 2: day and tomorrow, and I think you may be prized
Speaker 2: how awesome the matchups are out there. Now, one result
Speaker 2: that we talked about yesterday because I completely missed it.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you here. I am claiming I
Speaker 2: love college basketball and it's such a passion of mine.
Speaker 2: Yet I have to admit I didn't even know that
Speaker 2: Yukon and Memphis were playing yesterday. I knew both were
Speaker 2: in the field for MAUI. But I just I wasn't
Speaker 2: paying attention that that game actually tipped off while while
Speaker 2: we were on the air. And as you likely know,
Speaker 2: Yukon team that has won two consecutive national championships, they
Speaker 2: did get upset in overtime yesterday against Memphis, and there
Speaker 2: really had a whole lot of talk about should there
Speaker 2: be concerns about Yukon, which would be ridiculous. I mean, hey,
Speaker 2: not a good look to lose to Memphis, who's unranked.
Speaker 2: But still, I mean, these kind of losses happen, and
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody'd be shocked if you get to
Speaker 2: the end of the year and Yukon is the favorite
Speaker 2: to still win the National championship for the third consecutive time. However,
Speaker 2: the talk about this is not about again Yukon and
Speaker 2: their team are really how it happened. It's about Dan
Speaker 2: Hurley and how he acted, which he was a lunatic.
Speaker 2: I mean, he was a madman. I mean, he got
Speaker 2: a technical. You can clearly see some of the things
Speaker 2: that he was saying to the officials and some of
Speaker 2: the things he was saying to Penny Hardaway, the Memphis
Speaker 2: head coach, and you know, his behavior was was wild,
Speaker 2: and I'd be a liar if I told you that
Speaker 2: it bothered me and that like I was turned off
Speaker 2: by it to where I don't want to watch Yukon
Speaker 2: or that he's you know, he's a disgrace because one,
Speaker 2: I don't really care how coaches act. To beyond it,
Speaker 2: I mean, it just doesn't do It doesn't impact me.
Speaker 2: But it did seem like a different Dan Hurley. Now
Speaker 2: he's a competitor. He's always kind of been prickly, to
Speaker 2: put it lightly, that's just kind of his personality. That's
Speaker 2: his demeanor. And yesterday it was that times thirty. It
Speaker 2: seems so maybe it's a one off, or maybe this
Speaker 2: is just how Dan Hurley is going to act now
Speaker 2: that he is essentially running college basketball. Turns down Kentucky,
Speaker 2: turns down the Lakers, stays at Yukon could win his
Speaker 2: third consecutive title. Who knows how many this guy wins
Speaker 2: when it's all said and done. And he's going to
Speaker 2: behave in a way that nobody else does and it's
Speaker 2: gonna bother people. And I'm not saying he will do that,
Speaker 2: but like, if he does do that, I can't say
Speaker 2: that I'm gonna be surprised. But to me, the reaction
Speaker 2: not only from the casuals out there, just college hoops
Speaker 2: fans talking about it on Twitter or whatnot, but also
Speaker 2: those who like cover the sport nationally. Like, I think
Speaker 2: his behavior after that game, I mean, I guess during
Speaker 2: the gay man after the game, it almost gave people
Speaker 2: a pass to say what they really think about him.
Speaker 2: Like he has been on top of the sport for
Speaker 2: the last couple of years, and he's I mean, he's
Speaker 2: a made man now. He could retire now and be
Speaker 2: a legend, just because you determine who's legend, who is
Speaker 2: legendary by winning national championship. This guy's won two of them.
Speaker 2: Not many have won more than one. Not many have
Speaker 2: won won to be honest with you, so like maybe
Speaker 2: it wasn't cool or acceptable to kind of be anti
Speaker 2: Danny Hurley because you know, he's the he's the new
Speaker 2: star in the sport. But I feel like yesterday and
Speaker 2: even today, like it's been a big talking point and
Speaker 2: I think a lot of more people dislike him than
Speaker 2: I realized. But you know, one of the reasons why
Speaker 2: people dislike him is because he's really really good. He
Speaker 2: beat your team. He's got back to back national titles
Speaker 2: and maybe he turned down your school. So I could
Speaker 2: be getting a little bit ahead of myself because maybe
Speaker 2: his behavior, his actions, maybe that was something he'll eventually
Speaker 2: apologize for and we won't see something like that again.
Speaker 2: But I kind of hope we do. And here's why
Speaker 2: we all need a villain. Villains are important, and I'm
Speaker 2: not sure college basketball really has a villain. I mean,
Speaker 2: coach k kind of felt like that. I mean he
Speaker 2: was more so just disliked because of you know, he
Speaker 2: was whiny and you know, the Doukie brand, and honestly
Speaker 2: because he was really good and successful. I think John
Speaker 2: Caliperry is a villain in college basketball and has been
Speaker 2: even going back to his days at Memphis and UMass
Speaker 2: because you know, teflon John, he did have two final
Speaker 2: fours vacated, and that made it look like a bad guy.
Speaker 2: Got to keep in mind college basketball, college sports was
Speaker 2: so different way back then, and to be fair to him,
Speaker 2: it never really I mean Marcus Camby and Derreck Rose,
Speaker 2: I mean, those two things happened and it didn't really
Speaker 2: become something that stuck with him forever. He went to Kentucky,
Speaker 2: and he was really really good, won a title, didn't
Speaker 2: have any NCAA issues, and he was arrogant. So I
Speaker 2: think he's kind of been a bad guy slash villain.
Speaker 2: And look, I don't mean any of this on like
Speaker 2: a personal level. I'm just talking about, you know, from
Speaker 2: an entertainment perspective, Cal used to just be this coach
Speaker 2: that people thought was a shady crook because again, what
Speaker 2: happened with those two guys, Derrick Rose at Memphis and
Speaker 2: Marcus Camby at UMass. But then he goes to Kentucky
Speaker 2: and he was really really good from the jump for
Speaker 2: about what five six years, and he was really really arrogant.
Speaker 2: And I don't think it was just Louisville fans that
Speaker 2: found Cal to be the perfect villain because he was
Speaker 2: that for us. But I think from a college basketball perspective,
Speaker 2: he really embraced the you're either going to be a
Speaker 2: diehard Kentucky fan and you're one of us, or you're
Speaker 2: the enemy and we're gonna do everything we can to
Speaker 2: make you not like us. Like I think even Kentucky
Speaker 2: fans would agree that Cali Perry kind of had that
Speaker 2: vibe for a while. And then you know, he kind
Speaker 2: of fell off, and I just don't see CAL being
Speaker 2: relevant enough to be like the villain moving forward in
Speaker 2: college basketball, and I think Danny Hurley would be great
Speaker 2: at it. Now, I gotta be honest with you. I
Speaker 2: don't dislike him, and I don't really have an issue
Speaker 2: with anything yesterday. I mean, obviously you shouldn't act like
Speaker 2: that and not expect to get a technical. But I
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself, as I mentioned,
Speaker 2: but I think Danny Hurley could be a great villain
Speaker 2: that could bring more eyeballs to college basketball if they
Speaker 2: keep winning at a really high level, and he, you know,
Speaker 2: continues to give us just a little bit of what
Speaker 2: we saw yesterday in Maui. So just to heads up,
Speaker 2: we are going to take a break a little bit
Speaker 2: earlier than we typically do because we've got cl Brown
Speaker 2: of the Courier Journals set to join us here on
Speaker 2: the other side, and I want to make sure I
Speaker 2: leave as much time as possible with our converce we
Speaker 2: have each week with cl not only on this Louisville
Speaker 2: matchup Tomorro against Indiana, but obviously the Governor's Cup game
Speaker 2: as well. But just quickly some thoughts on my end.
Speaker 2: I mentioned this just a few minutes ago, that I'm
Speaker 2: trying to check the temperature, check the pulls of both
Speaker 2: fan bases, and obviously it's a little bit easier for
Speaker 2: me to do that on the Louisville side than the
Speaker 2: Kentucky side. But you know, I don't think either team
Speaker 2: is overly confident in this matchup. I really don't. I
Speaker 2: think Louisville fans are fully aware of their team being
Speaker 2: good enough to beat Kentucky. I mean, it's not a
Speaker 2: question of Okay, are we can can we do it?
Speaker 2: It's more so like will you do it? Will you
Speaker 2: play to your best ability? And if so, they should
Speaker 2: win this game and it really shouldn't be that tough.
Speaker 2: But as I've said, I don't Thinkentucky's a one and
Speaker 2: seven sec team four and seven overall, because they're just
Speaker 2: lousy when it comes to talent. But either way, eleven
Speaker 2: games in they've been a lousy team and Louisville should
Speaker 2: be able to take advantage of that. So as of
Speaker 2: now Tuesday afternoon, I feel like Louisville fans are confident,
Speaker 2: but they know that this team could mess around and
Speaker 2: give the game away. Kind of like they did last year.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to act like Kentucky didn't make
Speaker 2: plays needed to win that game at ellen N Cardinal
Speaker 2: Stadium last year. They did. I mean, Ray Davis had
Speaker 2: himself a hell of a day. That Special Team's touchdown
Speaker 2: from Barry and Brown, I mean that was I mean,
Speaker 2: those were big plays that they made, but Louisville was
Speaker 2: in control and really shouldn't have have lost the game.
Speaker 2: Credit to Kentucky for that, but Louisville really just you
Speaker 2: know gay fans who claim, well, it doesn't matter, we
Speaker 2: won't beat Kentucky because we'll shoot ourselves in the foot
Speaker 2: or we won't come ready to play. That's just what happens.
Speaker 2: Last year's game gives those people more evidence that that
Speaker 2: may be true, that were cursed, which I don't believe that,
Speaker 2: but again, last year was the best example of why
Speaker 2: some fans just think the football gods will never let
Speaker 2: Louisville beat Kentucky again in football. On the Kentucky side,
Speaker 2: I do get a sense that they aren't worried that
Speaker 2: they could play well and beat Louisville because in their mind,
Speaker 2: Louisville just thinks they're lousy. They play in the ACC,
Speaker 2: there's no way they could be any good. But they
Speaker 2: also know their team sucks this year. And I don't
Speaker 2: care what fan base you are, you're gonna get up
Speaker 2: for your rival, but you're also going to realize eleven
Speaker 2: games in like who you are, and they know that
Speaker 2: they I mean, look, a lot of these fans want
Speaker 2: Stoops gone, and he's not leaving. I could sense a
Speaker 2: sneaky quiet confidence from them last year, meaning the Kentucky fans,
Speaker 2: I don't really get that this year. And again it's
Speaker 2: because this year they're not nearly as good as they
Speaker 2: were last year. Because they're that bad this year. And
Speaker 2: I have got some pushback from Kentucky fans that say
Speaker 2: that a win against Louisville won't change anything for them
Speaker 2: when it comes to Mark Stoops. And I'm sure a
Speaker 2: lot of them believe that and mean that when they
Speaker 2: say it now. But I say this all the time
Speaker 2: to both fan bases. Never underestimate and never be ashamed
Speaker 2: of what this game does for you as a fan
Speaker 2: base when it comes to the emotional impact. And I
Speaker 2: don't mean like we're all going to cry ourselves to sleep,
Speaker 2: but Louisville going eight and four this year most would
Speaker 2: have said before the season started, Yeah, that kind of
Speaker 2: feels underwhelming. But again, if you've beat Clemson for the
Speaker 2: first time, which has already happened, and you finally end
Speaker 2: this streak to Kentucky even though they're not good this year,
Speaker 2: I think fans are going to be really happy. And
Speaker 2: I think Kentucky fans that are already really negative about
Speaker 2: Mark Stoops and really really just turned off by him
Speaker 2: being the guy moving forward, they don't feel like the
Speaker 2: future is really bright with him moving forward. I think
Speaker 2: their level of frustration and just being done with Mark Stoops,
Speaker 2: I think it hits a way different level if they
Speaker 2: lose this game, especially if it's ugly, like I think
Speaker 2: it'll be louder than it's ever been, louder than people
Speaker 2: knew possible as far as fans just saying, we're done
Speaker 2: with this guy, but we'll see, we shall see. All right,
Speaker 2: quick break, cel Brown or the Courier Journal joins us
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Speaker 2: joining us once again from the Courier Journal, Mister C. L.
Speaker 2: Brown cl Obviously, I want to get your thoughts on
Speaker 2: a lot of things, but mostly the matchup tomorrow as
Speaker 2: the Cards get set to take on this Indiana team
Speaker 2: in the Battle for Atlantis, and obviously the Governor's Cup
Speaker 2: game coming up this weekend. But we'll start with hoops
Speaker 2: when it comes to the two games since the Tennessee game, which, man,
Speaker 2: it feels like that was months ago, but they've played
Speaker 2: Bellerman after a ten day break, sluggish start but in
Speaker 2: up pulling away winning that thing by thirty. And then
Speaker 2: obviously a game against Winthrop on Friday, where certainly some
Speaker 2: things that were concerning, but obviously they ended up pulling
Speaker 2: away and not having a whole lot of trouble down
Speaker 2: the stretch. It's tough to really know what you learn
Speaker 2: from those two games just because of the competition. Obviously,
Speaker 2: this Indiana team is much more closer to Tennessee than
Speaker 2: who you played in between. But was there anything that
Speaker 2: stood out to you that you feel like was a
Speaker 2: sign of growth to where when they do get out
Speaker 2: there against teams like Indiana, they'll be better prepared look
Speaker 2: better than they did against Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's been a lot of confirmation kind
Speaker 1: of just the way that they defend and the way
Speaker 1: that they fight. You know, I think obviously it's a
Speaker 1: good sign against anybody that they're going to end up
Speaker 1: playing because it's consistent. You don't really see them get
Speaker 1: frustrated or get down during the kind of the choppy
Speaker 1: water parts of the games. They stick to, you know,
Speaker 1: they stick to the system, They stick to what they've
Speaker 1: been taught.
Speaker 3: And keep at it.
Speaker 1: There is one thing that kind of.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a concern I.
Speaker 1: Would go that far, but I think Trucky Hepburn should
Speaker 1: take a larger role.
Speaker 3: And then in the offense, I think he's got the
Speaker 3: skill set. I think he's got the experience his more
Speaker 3: than he does and and kind of I mean.
Speaker 1: Obviously he's gonna make plays for other people consistently, but
Speaker 1: I just think I think the offense would work better
Speaker 1: if he was looking for himself a little bit more.
Speaker 2: I totally agree. And he's looked fine throughout the first
Speaker 2: few games, and I'm somewhat familiar with him from his
Speaker 2: time at Wisconsin. I remember watching him certainly a good player,
Speaker 2: but I just don't really feel like he's He hasn't
Speaker 2: looked uncomfortable, but I also don't feel like he's looked comfortable.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's just trying to grasp what
Speaker 2: is being asked of him, but I think it seems
Speaker 2: pretty obvious that if he's a little bit more empowered,
Speaker 2: if you, you know, hand him the key, so to speak.
Speaker 2: I feel like that could that could you know that
Speaker 2: that would be a good thing for this team? Have
Speaker 2: you gotten any sense as to what has kind of
Speaker 2: kept that from happening, Because I don't think it's just
Speaker 2: you and I. They kind of feel like, Hey, this
Speaker 2: guy's got some ability to to create not only for
Speaker 2: his teammates but for himself. He's a pretty talented player.
Speaker 2: He's played two years three years or so. I don't
Speaker 2: know if it was two years or three years in
Speaker 2: the Big Ten, because I think that's starting to be
Speaker 2: an obvious thing that a lot of people see, And
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure if we should expect it to
Speaker 2: happen or not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure. Like I feel like Pat Kelsey
Speaker 1: empowers all of these guys within the confines of the
Speaker 1: offense to you know, I don't think he judges over
Speaker 1: who's taking what shots, but I wonder if I wonder
Speaker 1: if it's just touching CNA where he's never really been
Speaker 1: in that role before, to to really try and be
Speaker 1: a big score and you know, be more of the
Speaker 1: shot maker in the offense as opposed to just a distributor.
Speaker 1: And I also think that's probably probably a percentage where
Speaker 1: it's this is still a very new team, you know,
Speaker 1: playing with new guys, and him just trying to make
Speaker 1: sure everybody is getting everybody's eating, everybody's getting into the
Speaker 1: flow of it, and not wanting to be a ball
Speaker 1: For lack of a better way to sum it up,
Speaker 1: I wonder if kind of all of those factors, you know,
Speaker 1: have have made him play the way he's playing now.
Speaker 1: But I do think as the season is going on,
Speaker 1: it's just kind of the more games they get under
Speaker 1: a belt, the more that they understand what needs to
Speaker 1: be done and who needs to do what, and maybe
Speaker 1: we will see those steps start to be taken by
Speaker 1: CHUCKI Yeppert.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think even in it wasn't against a
Speaker 2: team that you're going to the type of team you're
Speaker 2: going to face tomorrow in Indiana. But I just think
Speaker 2: regardless of who is who against, he did some things
Speaker 2: offensively against Bellerman and at times against Winthrop that I
Speaker 2: feel like we hadn't seen, you know, consistently. Right, He's
Speaker 2: kind of getting in his bag a little bit offensively,
Speaker 2: and all that should do is given more confidence to
Speaker 2: hopefully then be more aggressive, because I just kind of
Speaker 2: feel like if Louisville's going to be a team that
Speaker 2: that can be sniffing for the NCAA tournament, I have
Speaker 2: a hard time thinking he's not going to be one
Speaker 2: of the bigger factors, and not just as a guy
Speaker 2: who's running the show and running your team and getting
Speaker 2: others involved, but a guy who's also being an offensive
Speaker 2: weapon for you as well. Now, one thing that has
Speaker 2: really stood out in these last few games is it
Speaker 2: really doesn't even have to be from the stat sheet
Speaker 2: because you can just look at this team that they
Speaker 2: don't have a big physical presence like a lot of
Speaker 2: teams have. Indiana's got Umar Balo, who is probably one
Speaker 2: of the bigger guys in college basketball pound for pound.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, if you've got to I
Speaker 2: don't think I don't think there's a perfect scenario to
Speaker 2: kind of neutralize the advantage that they're going to have
Speaker 2: when it comes to the physicality department. But what can
Speaker 2: you mean, This team's not adding anybody, right, even if
Speaker 2: they get guys healthy. I think obviously Trey Olray can
Speaker 2: be a big help for you defensively and on the glass,
Speaker 2: But you know, this team is who it is when
Speaker 2: it comes to front court players. How would you counter
Speaker 2: that if you're if you're Pat Kelsey, obviously you can
Speaker 2: use it to your advantage at times. But we saw
Speaker 2: against Tennessee, you know, against teams that are big and
Speaker 2: physical and really want to use that as as you know,
Speaker 2: use that to their advantage. It's I mean, it didn't
Speaker 2: work last time out. We saw them play against a
Speaker 2: team like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, the out school that is for all
Speaker 3: those guys have.
Speaker 1: Them on the perimeter trying to defend him and make
Speaker 1: shots and make it to where maybe Mike Woodson has
Speaker 1: to go smaller or you know, whoever the opponent ends
Speaker 1: up in the future, like to make them the opponent
Speaker 1: have to adjust to Louisville's lineup. Because I don't really
Speaker 1: see a good like you said, they're not adding anybody.
Speaker 1: I don't really see a good alternative way to try
Speaker 1: and combat that. It's just going to be something I
Speaker 1: have to live with, which which brings me to another
Speaker 1: kind of concern about this team is the rebounding.
Speaker 3: Aspect of it.
Speaker 1: That kind of goes hand in and a lot of
Speaker 1: times with with having those big front court presents a
Speaker 1: big front front court president. I think that, uh, they're
Speaker 1: going to have to do it back committee, and it's
Speaker 1: something that could end up being a big either an
Speaker 1: achilles heel for this team or or they could you know,
Speaker 1: they can.
Speaker 3: Compensate enough of it to get over in games.
Speaker 1: But I think rebounding is going to be a big
Speaker 1: key moving forward as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's certainly never going to be a strength for him.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't I wouldn't think, But you just got to
Speaker 2: figure out how, you know, how much does it hurt
Speaker 2: you and how much can you can you you know,
Speaker 2: get better at it. I think you're right, they're going
Speaker 2: to clearly have to do it by committee, and there
Speaker 2: are a handful of guys on this team that I
Speaker 2: feel like when you're looking I think the way Pat
Speaker 2: Kelsey described it, and he actually said this earlier Dennis
Speaker 2: press conference. If you look at the back of somebody's cards,
Speaker 2: their basketball card, you know, what, what's it going to
Speaker 2: say about them that makes it stand out. I think
Speaker 2: there's a handful of these guys we're rebounding as a
Speaker 2: part of it, but I don't know if they've ever
Speaker 2: really been tasked with being like responsible for the glass.
Speaker 2: And I think at times you see, you know, it's
Speaker 2: not like they're not trying, but it's just there's not
Speaker 2: the instincts to, hey, we got to box out every
Speaker 2: single guy because we're already physically at a disadvantage on
Speaker 2: the glass. And hopefully that's something that they do pick up.
Speaker 2: I think Javon Hadley, you know, I think he's kind
Speaker 2: of a natural rebounder and I think he works his
Speaker 2: tail off. That's something he's gifted at, just kind of
Speaker 2: having a knack for knowing where to be before anybody else.
Speaker 2: But I also feel like that's kind of concerning if
Speaker 2: he's your biggest presence on the backboard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think was the name I was going to
Speaker 1: bring up as well in terms of somebody who has
Speaker 1: has that knack for rebounding. But yeah, if he ends
Speaker 1: up being the leading rebounder, then that probably.
Speaker 3: Won't vote well for U l and in terms of
Speaker 3: their numbers and.
Speaker 1: Offense of keeping opponents off the offensive glass as well.
Speaker 1: So they're definitely going to have to figure that out out,
Speaker 1: probably sooner.
Speaker 3: Than later, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: Cel Brown of the Courier Journal is our guest joining
Speaker 2: us here on Sports Talk seven to ninety. Let's talk
Speaker 2: about this Indiana team. They've had one decent test South Carolina,
Speaker 2: who's gone off to a rough start, but it is
Speaker 2: an SEC team, and I don't know about you. I've
Speaker 2: watched him a little bit, even before I watched him play.
Speaker 2: I look at their personnel. I think Mike Woodson did
Speaker 2: a phenomenal job with this roster. I think he brought
Speaker 2: back everybody that would you would want to bring back,
Speaker 2: other than the young man who went in the first
Speaker 2: round of the draft. The transfer, I can forget his name.
Speaker 2: He transferred from Oregon. But outside of that, they then
Speaker 2: went to the portal and I think they got the
Speaker 2: right pieces. It's still early. Maybe I'm way wrong, but
Speaker 2: just from a personnel perspective, I really like this this
Speaker 2: Indiana team, Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: I really like the addition of Miles right to that roster.
Speaker 1: I was a big fan of his last year, and
Speaker 1: he was one of those guys when they entered a portal.
Speaker 3: I think he was somebody who could.
Speaker 1: Help change transform a team, and I think he having
Speaker 1: that kind of impact at IU. UH. I still kind
Speaker 1: of feel like he probably should have added more shooting.
Speaker 3: Like Woodson, I've.
Speaker 1: Never really interacted with him, so I'm not going to
Speaker 1: profess to be some you know, a savant on IU
Speaker 1: basketball right now, but I just feel like he's more
Speaker 1: still in the old school mold of thinking, where oh
Speaker 1: he's certainly not Yeah, he's not really going to analytics,
Speaker 1: and he's not really opening up to to really utilizing
Speaker 1: the three point line. And you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's gonna end up hurting them or not down
Speaker 1: the road, But that's the one thing on his roster
Speaker 1: when he was putting it together that I feel like
Speaker 1: he probably could have added more shooting than he didn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't shoot a ton of threes, but but
Speaker 2: the ones that you know so far, they're shooting somewhat
Speaker 2: of a decent percentage. But yeah, I would I would
Speaker 2: say that's probably not going to end up being a
Speaker 2: strength of this team, and I guess maybe just kind
Speaker 2: of thinking out loud here, maybe that could be an
Speaker 2: advantage for Louisville in this matchup, as if the game
Speaker 2: is played at their pace and they're able to get
Speaker 2: off to a good start, I think Indiana will run
Speaker 2: with them. And I think they've got some good athletes
Speaker 2: that could could make maybe make it a problem for Louisville,
Speaker 2: just because there's a lot of talent on this Indiana team.
Speaker 2: But maybe they get into maybe they get into taking
Speaker 2: the bait and shooting a bunch of threes like Louisville,
Speaker 2: who of course wants to do that, And maybe maybe
Speaker 2: that again wishful thinking on mine as a Louisville fan myself,
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I'm looking now. The numbers are
Speaker 2: a little misleading because they've got guys shooting forty to
Speaker 2: fifty something percent, but they've taken like eight shots all year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So it's good when you can get that
Speaker 1: high percentage, though, when you know if you're.
Speaker 3: Needing it, needing someone to make it.
Speaker 1: I do think with Louisville taking as many as they do,
Speaker 1: I still for me, I would like to see the
Speaker 1: right people shooting and I don't think I know case
Speaker 1: and prior was like thirty five percent last year South Florida.
Speaker 1: But he's I don't I want to say, don't have
Speaker 1: the steps in front of me. But he's not shooting
Speaker 1: it well. And and if I were Pat Kelsey, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't let him shoot it until he hits a certain
Speaker 1: clips of consistency in practice, because I don't think it's
Speaker 1: the right shot for him. Like to me, you got
Speaker 1: to prove you can make it, like it's not just
Speaker 1: the shot is open, take it. You know, I only
Speaker 1: trust a handful of guys on.
Speaker 3: This team shooting threes.
Speaker 1: Of course Ryan Smith would be the number one guy,
Speaker 1: But you know, I just think prior to shooting threes
Speaker 1: is if I'm the opposing coach, I'd let him do
Speaker 1: it all day, and you know he would have to
Speaker 1: beat me that way.
Speaker 2: You're saying from three point range is not impressive. So far,
Speaker 2: I'm with you, and I think you know he's going
Speaker 2: to be the guy that I'll go back to something
Speaker 2: one of my coaches used to say to some of
Speaker 2: our guys who if they were open, they would let it.
Speaker 2: They would just fire away. And you know, he would
Speaker 2: time's call a time out and say, do you realize
Speaker 2: there is a reason you are open this? That is
Speaker 2: what they want you to do. And I kind of
Speaker 2: think with the way Pat coaches and obviously he's empowering everybody.
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, I don't know if there's a guy
Speaker 2: that technically if it's in like if it's it's if
Speaker 2: it's within their system and it's a it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's in rhythm and you got a good decent look.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure there's anybody he's telling not to shoot.
Speaker 2: But I would do the exact same thing, because you
Speaker 2: have guys that can shoot it. But I'm not sure
Speaker 2: like that's that's what they bring, that's their that's their
Speaker 2: biggest weapon. In case in Pryor. I mean, he might
Speaker 2: make some threes this year. He can knock it down
Speaker 2: every now and then, But you know, if he's going
Speaker 2: to be a guy that helps Louisville be a tournament
Speaker 2: caliber team, I don't think it'll because he's knocking down threes.
Speaker 2: It'll because of everything else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I will say, I mean I love his game,
Speaker 1: and you know I wrote a columns saying he should
Speaker 1: be in the starting lineup, you know, off the top,
Speaker 1: because he's one of their five bests clearly.
Speaker 3: And brings a lot of energy.
Speaker 1: With what he does. And I will say in his
Speaker 1: defense because I don't want to say like I'm picking
Speaker 1: on him, I haven't seen him take bad threes, like
Speaker 1: just like out of you know, he's not in the
Speaker 1: flow of the offense, or it's just kind of out
Speaker 1: of the blue, or he's being selfish or anything like that.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen him take those kind of threes. But
Speaker 1: I do think, you know, when it comes back to
Speaker 1: the stats of it, and when you're not hitting at
Speaker 1: a high clip, then I don't think you should take them.
Speaker 3: So you know, that's just me.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, And I haven't seen many of them
Speaker 2: other than against Tennessee whenever it was really tough to
Speaker 2: see because they were at times having to throw him
Speaker 2: up because they were just defended so well and shot
Speaker 2: clock was running out. But this could be a product
Speaker 2: of maybe why he has shot as many as he has,
Speaker 2: because there's two that I can think of that were
Speaker 2: not good shots and he made both of them, and
Speaker 2: I think that might have you know, that's sometimes guys
Speaker 2: have one fall like that and it just becomes they
Speaker 2: just think that's gonna you know, it's gonna always be
Speaker 2: that way. But look, Case and Pryor should start. I'm
Speaker 2: with you, and I don't think I mean, if he
Speaker 2: is paying attention to what a lot of people are
Speaker 2: saying about him, I don't think. I hope he doesn't
Speaker 2: see it as anybody picking on him. I think everybody
Speaker 2: just realizes, hey, there's a lot of good players on
Speaker 2: this team, but he's somebody that I feel like, again,
Speaker 2: if Louisvill's in a position late where they're fighting for
Speaker 2: a spot in the tournament, he's going to have to be.
Speaker 2: In fact, I'll have this as my last question on
Speaker 2: basketball before we get to the Governor's Cup game. But
Speaker 2: doesn't it feel like, you know, the core of this
Speaker 2: team is going to be Case and Pryor, Terrence Edwards
Speaker 2: and Chucky Hepburn Like obviously Rain Smith's going to be
Speaker 2: a big factor. He's super important. We talked about Javon Hadley,
Speaker 2: and there's other guys that are going to play, and
Speaker 2: who knows when you get Orin Johnson back in Trey Ora,
Speaker 2: who knows what that is. But I kind of feel like,
Speaker 2: as of now, even though it's early, those three are
Speaker 2: kind of going to be more important maybe than anybody.
Speaker 1: No, I would definitely agree with that. I just think
Speaker 1: they those are the three I would say who kind
Speaker 1: of sets the temperature and set the pace for the
Speaker 1: team and everyone else kind that goes as they as
Speaker 1: of right now. Who knows if somebody really emerges to
Speaker 1: change that later. But like with Hadley, I thought he
Speaker 1: would be one of those guys too, but he really
Speaker 1: just kind of fits in as more as a more
Speaker 1: of a utility guy who you feel you feel like
Speaker 1: you can depend on him.
Speaker 3: But it's not like he's not.
Speaker 1: Really going out and being a trailblazer out there, you know.
Speaker 1: He's more like just kind of fitting in with his role.
Speaker 2: He's not setting the tone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, totally agree. All right.
Speaker 2: So this Govenor's Cup match up Louisville and Kentucky, two
Speaker 2: teams that have had really made totally different seasons. To
Speaker 2: be honest, obviously, both are a little bit underwhelmed, given
Speaker 2: that expectations for Louisville were higher than where they are
Speaker 2: right now. Obviously, Kentucky's had one of their worst seasons
Speaker 2: in the Mark Stoops era. I don't know if there's
Speaker 2: a result that could happen that would like totally surprise me,
Speaker 2: because I think Louisville has shown the ability to go
Speaker 2: beat a Clemson and you know, that win still looks
Speaker 2: pretty good and it's still something that very few people,
Speaker 2: very few teams have done in the last decade to
Speaker 2: beat them at their place on a Saturday night. But
Speaker 2: they also can come out flat, sleepwalk, and then make
Speaker 2: all kinds of critical mistakes to lose a game to
Speaker 2: a team like Stanford Kentucky. They are a team that
Speaker 2: has been bad. I mean, by by definition winning and losing,
Speaker 2: they've lost a lot of games. They're one and seven
Speaker 2: in the SEC. They didn't beat a team at home
Speaker 2: this year that they didn't pay to come in there
Speaker 2: and take a butt whooping. But I also know that
Speaker 2: their talent level is not why they're one and seven
Speaker 2: in the SEC. I think they're a team that you know,
Speaker 2: it's what it could have should have. But I think
Speaker 2: they their fans have a reason to be really upset
Speaker 2: this year because there's just no reason for them to
Speaker 2: be this bad as far as their record. So I
Speaker 2: kind of feel like there's no result that would ultimately
Speaker 2: surprise me. But as we are getting closer to this matchup,
Speaker 2: what's your feel for it?
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny. I feel like, as kind of alluded to,
Speaker 1: Kentucky haven't played well at home against in winnable games
Speaker 1: like the second game of the year when they played
Speaker 1: South Carolina, and I think South lines playing head and
Speaker 1: shoulders about Kentucky at this point.
Speaker 3: But back then we two. You know that's the game
Speaker 3: you have to win at home if if you're Kentucky, Yes,
Speaker 3: I think it was.
Speaker 1: And you know you have that game, the Vanderbilt game
Speaker 1: and Auburn team that hadn't won a game and was
Speaker 1: kind of reeling when they came in to Lexington. Those
Speaker 1: three games are all beatable teams, you know, winnable fifty
Speaker 1: to fifty kind of games. I looked at before the
Speaker 1: season started as as Kentucky's got to win those, and
Speaker 1: you know they they laid an egg against South Carolina
Speaker 1: and Auburn, and you know they they played well enough
Speaker 1: in that bandy game but still lost that. So I
Speaker 1: look at those kind of things. I do feel like
Speaker 1: the strength of this game, the strength matchup is Louisville's
Speaker 1: offense against UK defense. Those are the best units for
Speaker 1: each team. So so if we're calling that even then
Speaker 1: I think the game will come down to what plays
Speaker 1: Louisville's defense can make against Kentucky's offense. And if it's
Speaker 1: the Louisville defense that we saw against Pittsburgh, Louisville's gonna
Speaker 1: win the game. If it's the Louisville defense that played
Speaker 1: against Stanford.
Speaker 3: Then then to know.
Speaker 1: But also I feel like UK starting a freshman quarterbacks
Speaker 1: who's never played in this game, even though it is
Speaker 1: at home, you know, so he does have that bit
Speaker 1: of an advantage, but you don't know how he's going
Speaker 1: to react.
Speaker 3: Will he be overwhelmed by the moment.
Speaker 1: You know, We'll see, We'll see how he how that
Speaker 1: all plays out.
Speaker 3: And I do expect to have some kind of package
Speaker 3: still to.
Speaker 1: Where he runs one of the other quarterbacks out there,
Speaker 1: and you know, they do something different just to throw
Speaker 1: throw U.
Speaker 3: L off the tense.
Speaker 1: But all that being said, I'm taking U of L
Speaker 1: in that game, both to win in to cover for
Speaker 1: those who partake, just because I think ultimately they will
Speaker 1: be able to manufacture points that you know, UK's offense,
Speaker 1: to me, the UK's offense is let let them down
Speaker 1: basically the whole season, and I don't think this game
Speaker 1: will be any different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and putting a new quarterback out there, despite it
Speaker 2: being a true freshman, I mean, it does give you,
Speaker 2: I guess, a better chance for your offense to kind
Speaker 2: of really start fresh and not think about what's happened
Speaker 2: in the previous eleven games. But the human elements a
Speaker 2: powerful thing. All it's going to take is maybe, you know,
Speaker 2: a turnover or something, or just some adversity. Maybe Louisville
Speaker 2: gets up early, and I think this Kentucky team will
Speaker 2: be reminded that they've been really underwhelming. I don't want
Speaker 2: to say they're just going to completely lay down and quit,
Speaker 2: but that's usually how these kind of things happen. Again,
Speaker 2: not quitting, but just you know, kind of going through
Speaker 2: the motions again because you realize, man, this has been
Speaker 2: it's been such a tough year, and for Louisville. I
Speaker 2: mean this has really been I mean Louisville for even
Speaker 2: before Jeff Brohm, I mean even before Sadderfield, during Bobby's
Speaker 2: last stint. I mean, there were games every year that
Speaker 2: you just knew you had to account I had to
Speaker 2: throw in a clunker where they were going to play
Speaker 2: a game that they shouldn't lose and it was going
Speaker 2: to happen. That was clearly Stanford. The other three teams
Speaker 2: they lost to are all good teams, and then from there,
Speaker 2: I mean they.
Speaker 3: Call playoff teams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So you know, it's just I don't think
Speaker 2: Liwills had a bad year by any means, but you know,
Speaker 2: it just maybe hasn't. You know, they haven't been able
Speaker 2: to put it together in all three phases as consistently
Speaker 2: as you would have liked. Nobody wants them to be perfect,
Speaker 2: but to be you know, I hate giving teams credit for,
Speaker 2: you know, doing what they're supposed to do and like
Speaker 2: not quitting. But I do think for them to show
Speaker 2: that they what they did in the halftime against Boston
Speaker 2: College down twenty to nothing kind of felt like the
Speaker 2: season was crumbling. They bounced back in a major way
Speaker 2: in the second half and then went on the road
Speaker 2: and be Clemson. Well then they had one of the
Speaker 2: most embarrassing collapses you'll ever see in college football at
Speaker 2: Stanford as far as the very end of that game.
Speaker 2: Well then they come out and played phenomenal. You couldn't
Speaker 2: have asked for a better bounce back against Pittsburgh, So
Speaker 2: I guess it's nice to know that they can do that.
Speaker 2: I think that is something that a lot of teams
Speaker 2: probably wouldn't be able to do, to kind of have
Speaker 2: those setbacks and yet regroup and come out and win.
Speaker 2: But it also makes you just not really know what
Speaker 2: you're gonna get.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think we do know what we're gonna get, because,
Speaker 1: you know, as as maligned as the defense has been,
Speaker 1: they've really been consistent the second half of the year.
Speaker 1: If you take away the Stanford game, I feel like
Speaker 1: the defense has played well. The SMU game was probably
Speaker 1: a one game that I mean, obviously they allowed forty
Speaker 1: five against Miami, but he looked at the SMU game
Speaker 1: where they were out of place and looking at the sideline,
Speaker 1: and you know, as Bromberville later, maybe maybe the calls
Speaker 1: were you know, a little too complicated and coming into
Speaker 1: late and that kind of thing. So that threw everything off.
Speaker 1: But I felt like they at least got it together
Speaker 1: after that, Like we weren't seeing kind of the same
Speaker 1: problems until that Stanford game. But I think that they
Speaker 1: are closer to what we've seen at their best than
Speaker 1: what we've seen at their worst. And then I also
Speaker 1: go to the schedule again, like that's what we're gonna
Speaker 1: get with the super conferences and these imbalance schedule. I
Speaker 1: mean Louisville's schedule. They ended up playing you know, Miami,
Speaker 1: SMU Clinton. Those were the top three offenses in the league.
Speaker 1: You know, and a lot of teams that whose defenses
Speaker 1: are ranked higher and everything didn't have to go through
Speaker 1: that that gauntlet to prove themselves. So some of it
Speaker 1: you do have to give credit for other teams and
Speaker 1: having talent too.
Speaker 2: You know, you're absolutely right, Ceel, and I'm glad you
Speaker 2: said that, because you know, when I think of the
Speaker 2: defense other than Stanford just kind of being underwhelming and
Speaker 2: not getting it done, I think of Miami and SMU, Well,
Speaker 2: those are two of the in Miami's number one in
Speaker 2: the country in scoring offense and SMUs number five in
Speaker 2: the country. So you know, it's still wasn't the results
Speaker 2: you wanted, but you know, most teams were gonna have
Speaker 2: a tough time, probably a tougher time than you did.
Speaker 2: Most teams probably wouldn't even even have played those teams
Speaker 2: within a score.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and really I've said this before, but I go
Speaker 1: back to it. I mean, if two players are overturned,
Speaker 1: aren't overturned the fumble the SMU had when they were
Speaker 1: going in for the winning score, well what turned out
Speaker 1: to be the winning touchdown in that game. If that
Speaker 1: play isn't overturned and Louisville gets that turnover and gets
Speaker 1: the ball back and conceivably wins that game, we're talking
Speaker 1: about a totally different season. Same thing with the Miami
Speaker 1: scoop and score touchdown that that would have tied that game.
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows if those plays saying what the
Speaker 1: way we're talking about Louisville and the way we're talking
Speaker 1: about their defense, you know, but.
Speaker 3: Happened. So say that again.
Speaker 2: Because it's because you know, for me, it's certainly gonna
Speaker 2: be a what could have been here because of that.
Speaker 2: I mean, they were playing really good teams and you know,
Speaker 2: one play here and there that the referees make the
Speaker 2: judgment call. I mean, it had a big factor in it.
Speaker 2: But if you can have your what could have been
Speaker 2: year not be a terrible year as far as the results,
Speaker 2: but you still potentially go eight and four. You beat
Speaker 2: Clemson for the first time ever, you're in the street
Speaker 2: to Kentucky. I think most louvill fans will will be
Speaker 2: satisfied and still feel like they've got some real momentum
Speaker 2: in the in the Jeff brahm Ara. But see all
Speaker 2: as always, I appreciate you making time for us, my man,
Speaker 2: and enjoy Thanksgiving with the family, and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 3: Brother, all right, you as well. Thanks Mack.
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Speaker 2: to expect, but I will say this. I mean, I've
Speaker 2: said it earlier in the week. I was actually on
Speaker 2: John's show, his Indiana show, talking about the matchup, and
Speaker 2: I don't expect Louisville to beat Indiana, and I don't
Speaker 2: think that that's out of line. I mean, if they
Speaker 2: do win, it won't be the big shock in the world.
Speaker 2: And I guess the Tennessee loss doesn't look nearly as
Speaker 2: bad now that we know Tennessee appears to be pretty good.
Speaker 2: In fact, they look to be really good. For us
Speaker 2: as fans, this is really a learning experience. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of first times that we're going to experience in
Speaker 2: the year. In year one of the Pat Kelc era,
Speaker 2: they played a really good team in just his second
Speaker 2: career game as the head coach here, and in that game,
Speaker 2: it wasn't good. They got throttled, they got humbled, not
Speaker 2: a good performance. We all know that. In this game
Speaker 2: against Indiana, it's our first chance to see how they respond. Now, technically,
Speaker 2: I guess that's not accurate because they did play Bellerman
Speaker 2: and Winthrop in between, but we all know that's really
Speaker 2: not the same thing. So again, I kind of look
Speaker 2: at this as our first chance to see how Louisville
Speaker 2: responds from something that you know, seemingly happened many months ago.
Speaker 2: It hadn't been that long, but man, that Tennessee game
Speaker 2: feels like it was forever ago. So you know, I'm
Speaker 2: anxious to see where we are, and we'll find out
Speaker 2: tomorrow and I'm looking forward to it. All right, let's
Speaker 2: wrap up our number one. In fact, this will be
Speaker 2: our only full hour with you guys today because as
Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, we do have a women's college basketball
Speaker 2: game coming up here before too long. But what I
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Speaker 2: I think that's about four fifteen or so, so we'll
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Speaker 2: we have left. But I will let you guys hear
Speaker 2: what Pat Kelsey had to say earlier this afternoon. They
Speaker 2: arrived yesterday in the Bahamas, and I'm very jealous, obviously,
Speaker 2: but we heard from both Pat Kelsey and Chucky Hepburn
Speaker 2: earlier this afternoon as they get set for this matchup
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