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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentleman, and welcome back to the Keepers Podcast.

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Welcome to the six hundred and seventy second episode of

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The Keepers Podcast. I am the Invisible Man Travis Snail.

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I'm joined by.

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Speaker 2: I Am the I Can Fix Her Jerklin Patzer.

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Speaker 3: I'm thea Butter me Up Taylor Field.

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Speaker 1: Yes, lais gentlemen. I just like that our two nicknames

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are just like Thurston for some women. And then you

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know this is for Thurston for Paul Walter hous and

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you know that's great pole. Walter Houser is a fantastic

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actor who we're gonna talk about. Yes, Lesia, and we

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are here. We are the first movie of the I

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guess his first anything of the Phase six the MCU.

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It feels a little weird because I feel like the

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phase of has kind of been a mess since Endgame.

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But it is the kickoff of the six phase, the

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final phase of the Infinity saga that's leading us to

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a bunch of good stuff, I hope. But you know,

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obviously Marvel's had a rocky road. I'd say since Endgame.

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We've talked about the times we didn't check out many

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of our newscasts, so you know, earlier this year we

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did Captain America, where I think we were all kind

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of mixed on Thunderbolts. I think it was a big

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surprise for us, which we all kind of liked to

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varying degrees. And then we did do the Journey. You

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can go on Patron. We reviewed every single Fantastic four,

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even the even the Roger Corman one that didn't release.

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We reviewed that. That's all in Patreon, the Phase two

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tier and up. Talk a little bit more about that later.

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But we've had a little bit of journey. And this

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is the last Marvel movie of the year, and listen

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to this, this last Marvel movie until Spider Man Brand

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New Day, which is kind of crazy to say, but

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that is the situation here. So as usual, we're going

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to give you our non spoiler thoughts and then if

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you haven't seen the movie, will we'll take a little pause,

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give you a break, let you know when we're driving

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to spoilers, will break that wall. And then once after

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the break we do that, then all bets are off.

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So if you don't want tool be spoiled, get out

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of here. If you don't care, then buckle up, baby.

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So yeah, mister Pats, I'm gonna let you start. What

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did you think non spoilers of Fantastic Four First Steps?

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I always forget about the first Steps apart, but that

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is the full title.

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Speaker 2: I kind of forgot about that subtitle. Also, yeah, just

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the Fantastic four. Uh yeah, I mean I thought this

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was a really fun time. I thought it was really

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solid across the board. I don't think there was really

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any moments that I was like scratching my head of like, man,

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this is such a terrible decision, or on the other

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side of the spectrum, like man, this is blowing my

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blowing me away, like fucking peak mcu here. So you know,

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some may see that as a negative because it's it's

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kind of safe, and I don't think it's like I

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don't think I would call this movie like safe, but

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there's there's certain there's certain things about it that make

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it feel safe, and I don't it's hard to describe.

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It's definitely to me a good vibe movie. Like I

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just absolutely love the aesthetic of the sixties of what

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this film has, and I think they just nailed it

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with like the jet sins feel where it's like that

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old Retroe but like still futuristic everything down to like

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the like the newscasters they interact, the just the cit

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like the city, like the citizens, their cars, the way

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that they talk, like everything about it. The fashion. I

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just totally was vibing with the aesthetic, and I love

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the aesthetic. When I first saw like that Fantastic four

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logo first time we see them in the suits, I

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was just eating that up. So I knew I was

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gonna like the aesthetic. But just see like the full movie,

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I I just thought it looked really really awesome. There

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is some really shoddy CGI in this movie, but there's

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also some really fantastic CGI at moments. Particularly our big

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bad Galactis, I thought looked phenomenal. It helps that he's

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kind of in the darkness for some scenes, but you know,

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certain baby was making me think of the getting getting

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the flash flashbacks this is. I didn't like that scene to.

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Speaker 1: This is this is the phase six of ye this is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well talk about it, but I feel like they

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just have like a lot of it too, where it's like,

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oh man, was this the best idea? But like in

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my head, like what's the alternative? Are you gonna close

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train a child?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I guess so the movements is a little bit fishy,

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but yeah, you know, we'll talk about when we get there,

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but just yeah, ran out my overall thoughts. I think

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that the cast is really great. I think something that

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this movie does a really good job with from my

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point of view, I don't know see how you guys feel,

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but I thought they gave like like to me. I

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wasn't watching this and being like, man, Read Richard is

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such a standout in this team, or like Sue is

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such a standout in this team, or Johnny, like I

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feel like the team as a whole, I just really enjoyed.

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of stuff to do. You know, there's probably a little

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bit more with Read and Sue just because of what's

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going on, but like, I still feel like Johnny and

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Ben are also just really fun. I think those two

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slapping by any means, But I think there's just like

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a certain I don't even know if levity is the

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right word, but I'm just gonna grab it and throw

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it on there in my sentence because it just it

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just sounds right. I don't know, there's something, there's something

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nice about this this movie, and like I think this

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is gonna be a fun one to rewatch, just because

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just I don't know, it's a good story of start

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to finish. I really like some of the space sequences

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we're in. I was actually really really vibing with what

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else to say, Silver Surfer. That was like a big

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anticipation for me, probably like top two or three. Like

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most anticipating for the movie was just seeing that character.

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don't know, I'm yeah, I don't know. I don't want

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to spoil it too much. We'll get there when we

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get there. But I was impressed with the character's role

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and kind of what they were doing. I was worried

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it was just gonna be like, I Am the Herald

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of Galactus comes in and then like that's just kind

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of it for her. Uh, you know, obviously I do

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that she'd be surfing, surfing around and doing some integral

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things to the plot, but I think she was in

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it more than maybe I was. I was not necessarily

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expecting but like worried that we're gonna be getting a

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lot less of her. So I was pretty happy with it,

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and like it felt like a just a good telling

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of like that surfers because clearly we're in a you know,

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different multiverse here. Minor spoilers were in Earth eight four eight.

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of this movie, yes, Earth, like it tell you so

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if anyone's gonna get mad, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it is just like a solid variant, I

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guess equivalent.

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Speaker 1: I want to know what the specific number of the Earth,

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like God, damn, get out of here please, but yeah,

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different place.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I I don't know. I I think I

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would recommend this movie. It's it's it's nice to like

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believing and and for me at least, being like, yeah,

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that was that was a solid entry into uh, you know,

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any means. I did have a fun time with that movie. Honestly,

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than it was for me here in Fantastic four. But

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it was all right, but like I don't know, it

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was missing something to really blow my mind. But I

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feel like maybe that's when you get into uh, just

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more variables of like, well, let's just swing for the

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fence and see what happens. I feel like because they

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kept it somewhat safe with with some things that were

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going on here, it just feels like a nice place

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to do it before we get into the you know,

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the big Avengers doomsday stuff. Yeah, I think I'll leave

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it there because I'm I'm worried I'm gonna leak out

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some things, so I'll pass the baton to someone else.

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Speaker 1: Taylor, your turn to leak? Yeah, what a scrimped too

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much of bread?

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Speaker 4: With with all the marketing and everything, I felt like

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Speaker 4: There was just so there was so much going on

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with the marketing. I felt like it was just everywhere.

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Speaker 1: That Superman, with this Taylor's old eyes now can't take

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more than three characters on screen.

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Speaker 3: I can't.

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Speaker 4: I got a squint, you know, I got like tunnel.

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Speaker 1: Vision Justice, who's the fantastic for I.

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Speaker 2: Just want about the marketing, Taylor. I thought the Tron

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marketing has been stellar for aries except trailer.

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Speaker 5: The trailer trailer was going to break down the Avatar trailer, right,

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I got goose bumps for that Avatar trailer.

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Speaker 3: Shut the Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Circling back to this movie, uh.

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Speaker 1: The yeah, you know, I mean one of the biggest

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Speaker 4: So I did not have a lot of hype going in.

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post credits scene that Thunderbolts had everything, Like I was,

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Speaker 3: I was getting juiced up, but I was.

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Speaker 4: There was some anticipation for this, especially because this is.

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Speaker 1: Again this is a.

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Speaker 4: In terms of the overall narrative and where we're supposed

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to be kind of segueing too. I mean, those Avengers

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films are not far off, so things need to be

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kind of accelerating. That anticipation was there for me, and

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captivated looking forward to this movie.

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Speaker 3: And so.

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Speaker 4: I think at the end of this month, having you know,

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know if we've done that before with Geek first, this

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is like, I think we have three big blockbusters in

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Speaker 1: I mean that's I think they're the three ones that

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like pertain to us, like the stuff we cover and

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really like. But I bet it's happened before. There's probably

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just one we skipped right where it's like we're not

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going to review be the beat, like so what you did?

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I mean like something like that where I bet there's

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a couple of big ones. You know, it's fair. So yeah.

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Speaker 4: I getting into the movie and just watching it the

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world that they built, I was totally absorbed by it.

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Speaker 3: I absolutely loved it.

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Speaker 4: I think that it felt spot on for this this

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futuristic and this retro kind of combination that they did.

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I can't remember that the term for it, but you

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were telling you you you know what the term is, Travis,

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because we we we googled it.

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Speaker 1: The futurest retro future or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, something like that. Yeah, yeah, retro futuristic or whatnot.

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Speaker 3: That being that aside, though, just.

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Speaker 4: I think the characters, they were fantastic of the actors,

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like I wasn't sure how it was gonna like Johnny

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based on the trailers, because he felt like in the

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trailer portrayal, it just felt like he was like constipated

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for most of the time. But in the movie with

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how he's bouncing off the what.

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this before where words mean different things him? Can you

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define constipated just quickly ten seconds?

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mean without the sound effects. But that's just how Oh.

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Speaker 1: God, that's just that's how I feel.

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Speaker 4: But again, most of those scenes are just quick cuts

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of him and the trailer, and you don't get the

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setup and like the build up to those moments, and

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so when you actually see him interacting with the other characters,

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it's a lot more fluid, and it's a lot more uh,

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you know, lax laxative, i'd say, is the counter to that?

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the same time.

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Speaker 3: No, no, No, The lacks of like the.

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Speaker 4: Movie version of Johnny is aces the trailer version that

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they were trying to display of him. There was just

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something a little bit more more rigid to that character, and.

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Speaker 4: Yes they did, and so but they get everything in here.

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It just it jived well. I really really liked it.

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It's just the score and the setups. Everything was just

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once we got into this adventure, I was just like,

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from right to the end, I was like, man, I

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feel like I'm back in that early MCU days where

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we're getting like really awesome, fun Marvel content, and this

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felt like it was it was capturing that that essence

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for me again and I left the theater very very happy,

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Speaker 3: Thought this was not what I was expecting.

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because with all the different storylines and everything that we

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were hitting, I really was just lacking that and missing

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that kind of nostalgic MCU feeling and I'm so I'm

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so happy that this kind of captures that for me.

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of this film, thinking, man, I can't wait to buy that,

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to put it on my my MCU shelf with my

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other Marvel films, because it's been so long since I

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bought in a Marvel film.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I'm just really really.

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I think it's great, and yeah, what, I don't know

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what else I can what else I can say? Uh,

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it's not me, it's not me. What did Detol ask,

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what did you best movie?

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Speaker 3: I think I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Me and Tyler were talking Silver Surfer Rise, the Silver

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Surfer he told me in the car, he said, he said.

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Speaker 1: He would leave me alone.

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Speaker 3: Saw that in theaters.

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Speaker 2: That was the Fantastic four movie.

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Speaker 1: That's why we don't like to spoil it. We don't

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really have a Fantastic We're gonna do the Superman rankings

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for the Patron. We're not doing a Fantastic Four rankings because,

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like I think it's a very boring episode. Like the

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movies are very easy to rank, Like I guess we

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could do best in the best characters, but like I

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think most of those movies were either a failing grade

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or right on the borderline. Other than that first one,

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so yeah, there's there's no spoil there, I think, Kirkland,

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would you agree with that? Would you say it's best

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four movie?

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but not that hard to do?

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Speaker 1: Right, The Roger Corman one's kind of messy. Fan for

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stick I think I still like the five one right,

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silver Surface messy. So like it's not a that's not

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an easy or that's not a hard thing to do.

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So tay you done with your over World thoughts?

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it's not Maybe it's a spoiler.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.

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the trailers have shown like a couple of things. So

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I'll save it from my opening statement.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you assume you get the opening statement, but I'm

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taking it.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm taking it smart. I'm gonna kick you all out. Yeah.

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So this is a movie that I've been interested in

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quite a while because it's I love these big these

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these GV big event films where not event film per se,

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but I feel like this is something we've been talking

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about at least for a long time since the podcast started,

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but obviously for sure twenty eighteen when Disney bought Fox

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right because they bought them and they got F four

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and they got X Men, and weeks after we did

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our fan cast, we should go back in a newscast

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and look at who we cast for the Fantastic Four

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back in twenty eighteen, because I wonder what we were

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all thinking back then. But so f for is not

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my team. They're not the characters I really glom onto.

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them in crossover events. I've read a lot of them

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in other stories, but a lot of their own separate journeys.

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I've read a little love just because they've just never

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done it for me per se. I'm not sure why.

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filmed that like Superman category like yeah, they've been too

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goody two shirt. They just have like those hard edges.

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I'm sure someone be like, oh, in nineteen sixty seven,

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there would be blah blah blah. It's like no, no,

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like sure, but like in my eyes, you know, Superman,

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shiz I am this, It's like I want something a

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bit more gritty, right, And as I grew up, same thing,

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like enjoyed those movies. We can go back check out

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the retros, like some of those movies that came I

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was a kid, but something I didn't see in theaters,

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Like I just never cared about them too much. Right.

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which is the thing I've always cared the most about.

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Vanessa Kirby, you know, gonna do a tresh totally Patty

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in the back, just like Auscar Isaac. That was my

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pick and I was very happy she got cast. So

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I had that bias going in. But Pedro, I was

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on the Pedro supporting team. But at the same time

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you have the cast to like, well, it's Fantastic four,

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and you know he had Shakman who did WandaVision who

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Fantastic Show had some iffiness near the end, so it's like, Okay,

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what's he gonna do for a movie? And if you

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were to ask me, probably you know January I was

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on the podcast when you guys did do the movie

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preview or whatnot? I guess it was. But either way,

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when we got closer to it, I would have said

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easily between Superman Captain America, Thunderbolts and Fantastic Fourth Thunderbolts

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will be ranked last. As far as my excitement so much.

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To my surprise, it's ranked first for the comic movies

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I like the most this year. This movie is fucking amazing.

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I loved almost Mike cons are one CGI Baby and

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I wanted it a little.

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Speaker 4: The Twilight Baby came out to play.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get there. They lost all the budget on

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Galactus and there's some bad baby shots. I don't care

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if it's to prepare yourself. There is a baby that

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is horrific looking in here. Especially there's key scenes where

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it's like emotional stuff's going on. Then it's like, here's

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CGI Baby again. Close ups Matt Shackman, DP, whoever close

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ups You fucking get close and you're good looking actors.

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But no, I love this movie. I agree with Taylor

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where it feels old school Marvel, well where to me

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it feels the biggest compared person. It's like Ironman, Cata America,

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First Avenger and Black Panther where they're in the MCU.

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But really, other than a few ties, you don't even

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need it, you know. Again, I think that's what they

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need to go back to obviously, if I stop bocked

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up talked about that, but I think you can have

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your everyone swheill, you cross over your civil wars, but

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you gotta go back to Hey, you could really just

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watch iron Man on its own and the end credit happens.

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That's great, But if you turn the movie off, it

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doesn't affect the movie, right, it's not a setup movie.

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And same thing with this, and that's where Man. Obviously

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it's a little bit different because everyone knows this. They're

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gonna be an Avengers, and there is some set up

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stuff with this. I'd say in the end credits, minor spoilers,

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but everyone knows this. We all they've spoiled this themselves, right.

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But for me, again, up until then, you could just

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watch the movie as is. And I've always said before

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I would love it for Marvel to say, hey, we're

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gonna make an iron Man movie, said nineteen ninety and

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it's not connected to anything. Yeah, we're gonna get Tom

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Cruise play Iron Man. It's he's not gonna kind of

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like what Joker was, right, like, we're just gonna go

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off by itself. This is not exactly that because it

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is connected in but it feels like that, and many

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times we're just feel like, hey, we're gonna make this

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movie an eight three eight that's what was Kirklan you

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said was eight three eight eight eight four eight. Thank you?

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And this is just gonna be fantastic for a movie

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by itself, like this is I want more of this,

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even if like who knows what happens with the MULTIVERSEECA,

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I would love what they introduced, more characters like this

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where it is like not even different country, like literally

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a whole different universe. Like if this is how we

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get the X Men, I'm completely fine at that. If

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it's not, when we go, oh, how do they do

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the X Men? They haven't been around, Like where's Wolverine,

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it's like no, if they just say yeah, it's a

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Earth you know, six one eight perfect, Like they nailed

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the universe. I love the differences. I love that we

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didn't have a bunch of heroes like before we always

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theorize like oh, could there be a cameo with this

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and that. No, it was great. I love and I

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think they'll are Kirkling. You brought a good point with

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the I think if people love MCU for its humor

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and the NIS Lappers. This movie is not that, But

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that's why I enjoy it because it doesn't feel like

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there's a joke a mile man. It doesn't feel like

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there's something super dramatic that happens and then cuts the tension.

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John o' crack a joke, sure, but at the most times,

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like there's a scene in the middle scene near the

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end where it's like there's some big stuff happening here

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and no one's throwing a quip out just to be like, hey,

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remember where we are? Like it, it feels way more

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like like I said, Black Panther and Iron Man in

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that sort of sense where it just feels grounded in

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its own reality, which I really love. Yeah, Galactus and

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Silver Surfer that they did a fantastic job. Could have

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used more on Silver Surf. We talk about that, and

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I think almost that's my only connics. I could have

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used more of everything. Like I said, Kirby, I not

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surprised at all. There's a reason, Like I'm not an

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F four connoisseur, but what I read of Sue Storm

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and what I've seen of her and what I've seen

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a Kirby always she's gonna kill it, man. She is

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like already like adop ten or for me, like I

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loved Sue Storm so much, so for me, she was

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a standout, and not just because I've brought in like

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I love Curby and a lot of other stuff. Just

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she nailed it and I love multiple scenes. There's a

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big speech she gets she is the core of the

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family like she is in the comic books, and not

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that you guys, I think doubt this, but I'll take

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a victory lab because I feel like I was just

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like in twenty fifteen when Ben Affleck got cast as

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Batman and people were like, oh man, I don't know

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about the same thing as Pedro. For some reason, one

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of the greatest actors currently working right now gets cast

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as Read Richards and people like, I don't know if

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he can do it. He hasn't shaved his mustache. I

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don't know if he can do it. Y'all are fucking some.

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I'm gonna say nicely, uh, misunderstood with your thoughts because

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he killed That's where too. The way Taylor was happy

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about Johnny, I was happy about Reid well againness was

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There's so much dimensions they did not show in the trailer.

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They just showed up he's likable Pedro, and he's like

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charming and good looking. No, you get the read that

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I was wanting, the read that can be very smart,

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very charming, very clever, but devious and kind of an

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asshole and kind of somebody that to me, you should

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like read the least out of the f four, and

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in this movie multiple times you do. And I think

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they nailed that, and that's a great thing. Pedro. We've

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seen that Last Hous which again I have seen Pedro

473
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,119
in a while because I didn't see Glad A or

474
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,240
two and there's other stuff. But it's like I kind

475
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,200
of forget Last of Us makes him look so old

476
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,880
because he's on screen like, oh my, man's he's looking

477
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,759
young here. I'm like, oh right, no, Joel. They just

478
00:21:58,759 --> 00:22:01,160
fucking make him look old as lately. But he's not

479
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,960
aged that poorly, which is good. Yeah. I think, uh,

480
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,359
Joseph Quinn, I think he is very good. And my

481
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,880
only thing is, man, does he feel like he's doing

482
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,480
a Ryan Gosling like like performance in a way like

483
00:22:14,519 --> 00:22:16,119
if you were to tell me this was young Ryan

484
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,319
Gosling like from the Nice Guys or even fal Guy,

485
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,000
like he has that energy big time even the way

486
00:22:22,039 --> 00:22:24,519
he's speech and he does his American accent. He sounds

487
00:22:24,519 --> 00:22:26,640
like Gran Gostlin. Not a bad thing because Gospel made

488
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,000
a great four. But that's all I could see. And

489
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,000
I like Eva Moss background as the thing as Ben Grimm.

490
00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:34,400
But I think that's my weak point again, that we

491
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,480
didn't get enough of that character. I think he kind

492
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,559
of got short change. I'm not sure if they looked

493
00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:40,519
at other movies where Ben Grimm plays a small or

494
00:22:40,519 --> 00:22:43,599
a big role, like maybe not this time. So uh no,

495
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,279
I and you mentioned I'm cracking on the baby, but

496
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,079
the visuals some of the best visuals in the MSU period,

497
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,279
not in this saga, not in this decade period, like

498
00:22:54,519 --> 00:22:56,599
you could literally because I heard that before. I'm not

499
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:57,960
gonna go as far as some people being like it

500
00:22:58,039 --> 00:23:00,920
looked like interstellar. That's a state too far from me.

501
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,519
But I could see as like the MC's Interstellar A

502
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,880
sure like this is literally multiple state space sequences. I

503
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,160
could not believe the environments and stuff that this was

504
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,640
the MCU, which lately has since ant manon on always

505
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,240
the MCU's had some issues at CGI, right, but usually

506
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,839
it's a sequence, a scene, you know, you know, sometimes

507
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,680
like Black Panther suffers more from others, but I felt

508
00:23:22,759 --> 00:23:25,680
from ant Man on it was way more noseablele all

509
00:23:25,759 --> 00:23:29,079
the time, where this flawless, great stuff like it was.

510
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,640
I was so surprised how good look. I thought people

511
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,440
were being like hyperbolic when they talked about the visuals,

512
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,359
and no, they they deliver big time Galactus Silver Surfer,

513
00:23:39,519 --> 00:23:42,000
the locations, even the set. There's a couple of times

514
00:23:42,039 --> 00:23:44,279
where the things on the street and you're like, the

515
00:23:44,319 --> 00:23:47,000
street's not the street's not here at all, but their

516
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,880
their house di vide everything. So no, I absolutely love

517
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,599
this movie. Very surprised. I looked at my MCU rankings.

518
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,559
I don't think it's in the top ten, but it

519
00:23:56,839 --> 00:23:59,279
might be. I need to think about the tenth spot,

520
00:23:59,279 --> 00:24:03,839
which right now I have, But yeah, I can't put

521
00:24:03,839 --> 00:24:05,960
that over Guardians one, that's what I currently attend spot.

522
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,759
I can't put it there. But I'm pretty sure this

523
00:24:07,799 --> 00:24:10,039
is eleven. So it's like right underneath that top ten.

524
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,119
And yeah, I was surprised how much I loved him

525
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,319
excited tell but I much like Thunderbolts. Uh. I don't

526
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,359
know how much we're gonna see them past doomsday, but man,

527
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,960
I hope this makes money because let Shackman do his thing,

528
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,000
let the team do the thing. I could take three

529
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,039
of these if they if they can nail this and

530
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,680
nail the X Men, and we got Tom holl and

531
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,559
Spier Spider Man then eventually recast Tony and Kapp like

532
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,640
I'm good if like the next five years is Hall

533
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,440
and X Men and F four leading the charge because

534
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,000
I was invested in all these characters, especially Pedro and

535
00:24:40,079 --> 00:24:41,920
especially Kirby. So for me, I thought they did a

536
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,240
fantastic job. And yeah, very surprised.

537
00:24:44,279 --> 00:24:49,599
Speaker 4: So you you highlighted something, you said something that made me,

538
00:24:49,799 --> 00:24:52,480
uh maybe think good.

539
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,839
Speaker 1: I like to do that, so I try to do well.

540
00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:00,559
Speaker 4: It's it's interesting because I I I think that their

541
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:05,440
fault was tackling a bunch of stories all within the

542
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,759
same like multiversal timeline. I think one of their strongest

543
00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:12,200
suits was, like you highlighted Dead Wool, Wolverine, and then

544
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,000
obviously in this with Fantastic Four, they should have just

545
00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:18,000
been focusing on characters and teams and whatnot, all from

546
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,440
different multiverses. We're in the multiverse saga, so why not

547
00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:22,799
just be tackling and giving us these different organ stories in.

548
00:25:22,799 --> 00:25:27,039
Speaker 1: Different Echo, No Ironhrder you know, you know what, any

549
00:25:27,079 --> 00:25:27,640
of those.

550
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,839
Speaker 3: You could you could know.

551
00:25:32,039 --> 00:25:33,319
Speaker 1: You can just say no, you can say no, I

552
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:38,039
don't no, no, don't don't even like street level one,

553
00:25:38,599 --> 00:25:40,680
you know, no Hawkkey, you know there is.

554
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 4: A level for a level of fandom for street level things,

555
00:25:44,279 --> 00:25:47,000
for sure. But I think you know, Hawkeye, it tackled

556
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,640
that street level kind of threat. And I mean you could.

557
00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:53,599
Speaker 1: To have fully. I think there just should have been more.

558
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,279
But I don't think you should have done everything. I

559
00:25:56,319 --> 00:25:58,240
think you should still keep stuff based on the six

560
00:25:58,319 --> 00:26:00,720
one six and everything, but I think there should have

561
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,519
been more for the multiverse saga and the like. We've

562
00:26:03,519 --> 00:26:05,559
talked about before. The multiverse movies are the ones that

563
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,799
have the biggest box office too. So and I guess, well,

564
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,400
Loki Loki had the multiverse stuff, right, I guess that

565
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,920
was really the only TV show I guess if you

566
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,279
want to count what If and stuff? So yeah, yeah,

567
00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:22,200
So anything else in the chat here? Do you tell

568
00:26:22,279 --> 00:26:24,119
us how they was stretching powers? I thought some of

569
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,640
the best they look, actually, because I've always said stretching

570
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,640
powers are lame and it's very hard to make that

571
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,359
look cool, and I think they were smart to do

572
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:36,279
it very lightly. That's another thing I enjoyed. There's I

573
00:26:36,319 --> 00:26:38,920
won't say my I think it's my sports. I think

574
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,519
there's like only three action scenes in here, and like

575
00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:45,319
the first action scenes like a montage like this movie,

576
00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:47,079
which I'm glad I didn't take the kids do because

577
00:26:47,079 --> 00:26:48,519
I think Gwen wall like it. I think Logan could

578
00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:51,000
have been bored, very talky, which I enjoyed. But the

579
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,160
action scenes, they're big when they happen, but very few

580
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,279
and far in between. Like when I saw read stretching,

581
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,880
like right, we haven't seen them stretching like an hour,

582
00:26:59,000 --> 00:26:59,559
and the first.

583
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,279
Speaker 2: Time we saw it is when he's really.

584
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think they looked good, but I think

585
00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:08,119
they use them right way accordingly. Is he turning into

586
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,480
like a fucking key like a teapot, No, he's not.

587
00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:14,240
They keep it very you know, regular fighting, stretching in

588
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,839
the club. Yeah, I don't need any of that. I'm

589
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,400
fine with it. But I thought he looked good.

590
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it looked good. There's a particular scene

591
00:27:24,079 --> 00:27:26,720
he's not in the most comfortable position that I was like, damn,

592
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,200
that looks pretty pretty nearly. Oh yeah, Yeah, that was cool.

593
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's great.

594
00:27:32,839 --> 00:27:35,279
Speaker 4: I think I think all their powers looked really really just,

595
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,279
especially Sue.

596
00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:40,839
Speaker 2: Honestly, I feel like the light like barrier, whatever the

597
00:27:40,839 --> 00:27:44,160
fuck her power even is, with like just force fields,

598
00:27:44,759 --> 00:27:46,960
it can look iffy because it's just like there's an effect.

599
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,559
It's like, hey, her power is being used. But in

600
00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:52,279
this particular, it was like actually looking like a light,

601
00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:54,839
like a like a magical light that she was using.

602
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:57,279
I just thought it looked really uh really good. They

603
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,200
just looked top notch.

604
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: Apparently they like they use some sort of camera practical

605
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,240
effect to like get like I don't think like a

606
00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:06,160
lens player. I can't remember what the term was, but something

607
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,559
like that. I'm sure of course they did stuff digital aftwise,

608
00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:11,480
but to do some of that they use like yeah,

609
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,119
imagine this gone with the Danny Boyle like out of

610
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,480
the nuts. But yeah, and those powers are they all

611
00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:21,039
have hard I guess not but read and see have

612
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,079
hard powers, like it's hard to do the whole telekinesis

613
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,759
and like vibes and like airwaves and invisibility like those

614
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,960
can look lame or just not work. But yeah, I

615
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,640
think that all looks good and everything so I, oh,

616
00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:36,440
never mind spoilers, I won't say that. Yeah, try to

617
00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:39,720
anything else before canting spoilers. Let's get into it all right,

618
00:28:39,839 --> 00:28:43,480
So after this we'll be right back with spoilers. So

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if you're not seen it, get out of here. We'll

620
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be right back and we are back. So before getting spoils,

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be a very fun day. So I mean, have let

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Kirkland start now, I'm joking, Tao. You said you wanted

665
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to have a starting point right away, So where where's

666
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the right way starting point?

667
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Speaker 4: I mean you you highlighted it with just the baby thing,

668
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and I thought that I was. I thought we were

669
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gonna be skipping over a little bit more time throughout

670
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this and.

671
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Speaker 3: Just the moment that baby.

672
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Speaker 4: Was born is like, that's not a newborn baby, holy shit,

673
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,079
Oh my god.

674
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought they were gonna make that like a story.

675
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:09,599
Reason Like I thought, because galactus induced for labor, essentially,

676
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,599
it's like, oh, he's just gonna be growing. And then

677
00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:13,960
I thought, like he think we might just be getting

678
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,319
a fucking not an adult Franklin, but like I like,

679
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,680
I don't know, eight or seven year old by the

680
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,480
end of the movie, likes baby because when he comes out,

681
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:28,000
I'm like, damn, like that baby's fuck what? Like you know,

682
00:31:28,119 --> 00:31:29,519
I haven't had a child, but like, what is that

683
00:31:29,559 --> 00:31:31,720
A couple of weeks, a couple of months maybe like.

684
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Speaker 1: Old months for sure, just a length on the head

685
00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:39,440
of hair, blue eyes. My twins right now are eight months,

686
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,279
are about to be eight months, and they they look

687
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,240
smaller than that.

688
00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: You know, they're like half half a person each.

689
00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:49,319
Speaker 1: Okay, so if I put them on top of each other,

690
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,880
that kid is still bigger than them. Like it was.

691
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,480
It was. It was strange. It was definitely an older kid.

692
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,039
At first, I thought, okay, you're gonna do that because

693
00:31:58,079 --> 00:32:01,119
you're handing them off a lot. But man, yeah, if

694
00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:03,680
people you're listening just was you didn't see the movie.

695
00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:07,400
So it was fine, right because they do great intensing

696
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,240
we're gonna go all over the place. But when they

697
00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:12,359
first visit Galactus, we'll get there, but Galacus senses this

698
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,000
baby and kind of induces the labor as Kirkland says,

699
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:18,400
and great set piece where they're trying to escape Galactus

700
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,599
and Sue is given birth, and my like, I knew

701
00:32:20,599 --> 00:32:22,440
nothing bad was gonna happen, but I thought the pacing

702
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,400
of the scene, just the cineatography everything, I was like,

703
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,200
oh my god, like heart was bump bumping right, pumping,

704
00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:31,400
all that good stuff what your heart wants to be doing.

705
00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:34,240
So she's about to give birth. She gives birth, and

706
00:32:34,279 --> 00:32:36,599
then of course, you know, the thing catches the baby

707
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,000
and then hands it off. I'm fine with the CGI

708
00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:40,960
there because it's like the baby's like floating over her.

709
00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:43,880
She just gave birth. Kind of understand you don't want like, hey,

710
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,559
can you float your baby? That's fine. But then even

711
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:49,079
when they do the handoff, it's like CGI for a

712
00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:51,319
little bit. But then they switched to it over over

713
00:32:51,359 --> 00:32:54,599
the shoulder shot and that's where it's like a practical

714
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,440
real life baby. So you're like, okay, hopefully from now

715
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,799
on it's gonna happen. But then we're it's into situations

716
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:03,279
because I love this little connection they have where Ben

717
00:33:03,319 --> 00:33:06,640
Grimm is like a very seems like close knit uncle.

718
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,039
The baby's always holding the baby. But then the problem

719
00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:11,480
is you have this baby like it's a real life

720
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,559
baby for a lot of that but next to the thing,

721
00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:15,359
so then they have to see you have that baby

722
00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:19,480
sometimes you got that and then again spoilers, they're planning

723
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,960
to see this movie jump away when we look like

724
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,720
we're losing Sue, which for like a split second, I thought,

725
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,039
oh man, they're actually killing her off. I'm running through

726
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:29,599
all the scenarios. I'm like, are they gonna find another

727
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,240
multiverse Sue? Is that what they're gonna do with Doom

728
00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:33,720
is like doo, I'm gonna make some sort of deal

729
00:33:33,759 --> 00:33:35,240
where hey, like, if you help me out at four,

730
00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:37,240
I'll bring back your wife. Like I'm thinking about all

731
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:39,359
this stuff, like what could happen? Then I see the baby.

732
00:33:39,359 --> 00:33:41,039
I'm like, oh no, this is perfect becase it's supposed

733
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:44,200
to be this huge you know, uh power set baby

734
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,039
godlike power sometimes in the comics of Mutant. So it's like, okay,

735
00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:50,319
brings her back to life. But as they're just putting

736
00:33:50,359 --> 00:33:51,880
the baby on Sue just to be like, you know,

737
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,000
say say goodbye to your dead mother. Here a little

738
00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:56,480
month year old put her on there. But when they

739
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,240
hand the baby off, they take out the widest shot

740
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:02,240
you've maybe ever seen the team in this movie, and man,

741
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,960
it is a CGI like it's like moving around and

742
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,320
it looks like it needed like six more renders. It

743
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,159
was I'm not gonna say log truck rough. This to

744
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:14,400
me is the new standard. This is like I'd have

745
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,960
to look at this and pit the troll. But that

746
00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:18,320
handoff of ben Grim handing the baby to read in

747
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,679
the found moments took me killed all my emotion, took

748
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:22,960
me right out of it. And that's where it's like

749
00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:27,000
just fucking zoom in and have a head, have a

750
00:34:27,079 --> 00:34:29,400
head and that's all you can see, or some hair

751
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,320
or even if you have to cegi, at least you're

752
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:36,039
just cgiing like a like twenty percent of this baby.

753
00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:38,519
The whole body. That was not it because when we

754
00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:40,079
put on suit, it's like back to me like a

755
00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:42,519
real life baby for the most part. But yeah, it

756
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:45,920
was a daunting, scary thing. Like I thought the Squid

757
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,800
Game Baby Taylor was looking bad and Squid Game season three,

758
00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:51,880
this was right on par with that. So yeah, they

759
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,960
should have someone should have been on set and saw

760
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,239
that been Like you know how we love to reshoot movies.

761
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,360
We're fucking reshooting all these baby scenes like they look

762
00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:02,559
bad for a movie that most of them looks visually stunning.

763
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: You know, I wouldn't go that far personally.

764
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: About the visually stunning or the baby.

765
00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:10,119
Speaker 2: The baby both honestly.

766
00:35:10,199 --> 00:35:12,559
Speaker 1: Oh okay, well you know we don't need was a

767
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,079
bad baby. Yeah, that was a bad You don't think

768
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:20,039
anything in this movie is visually okay to talk now,

769
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:21,840
don't laugh to either.

770
00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 3: That's my show.

771
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: Now. You don't think like when they're going you don't

772
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,719
think they're going through the black hole and silver sers

773
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,199
of fucking like Rolling.

774
00:35:38,119 --> 00:35:41,159
Speaker 2: Space sequences was some of the best looking visuals.

775
00:35:41,199 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: And that's visually stunning too.

776
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: I think that was visually stunning.

777
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: I thought, okay, you said nothing was visually stunning in

778
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,199
this movie. What are you talking about?

779
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,599
Speaker 2: I don't think that's what I think. Back a little

780
00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:54,320
bit when you said no, I say, at times looks

781
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,280
just perfection. I guess, okay, yeah, but.

782
00:35:57,199 --> 00:35:59,039
Speaker 1: Then tell me what I'm telling.

783
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,599
Speaker 2: I think just the baby stuff, Like I do agree,

784
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,800
it's it's it looks it's looking rough. But like, man,

785
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,559
rewatch that log truck scene, like that is like that's unacceptable.

786
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:13,960
That is like Microsoft, Oh you're pulling up right now?

787
00:36:14,119 --> 00:36:22,159
This guy? Uh like for the baby, like I don't know,

788
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,480
Like anytime Ben is like holding the child, it just

789
00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:28,760
looks rough. I don't know, Like Ben is a CG creature,

790
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,239
but like he looks really good, so like solid, no

791
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,760
pun intended. I think he looks fantastic throughout the whole

792
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,159
the whole flick. But when he's holding that baby, it's

793
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,440
just like moving around and like just looking glitchy at times.

794
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 3: And yes, it's a.

795
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: CG creature holding a real life thing, which is like

796
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:47,960
always a tricky scenario, right.

797
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,199
Speaker 2: So and somehow he's making the real life thing look

798
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,840
just so robotic and like so just yeah, like like

799
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,719
I don't know, just just like an AI render, like

800
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:01,199
it looks interesting at times, but in that scene, like

801
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:04,440
I don't know, it's also just bright and like there's

802
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,800
just a lot going on. Like sure in that moment,

803
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,400
I'm thinking, I'm like, is this really like our final copy?

804
00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:12,360
Like this is this is what we're doing here? Okay whatever,

805
00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:15,800
I'll allow it. But at no time, pretty much, at

806
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,760
any time in this movie was like, man, this is

807
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,320
the worst looking d m C was looked for for

808
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:26,199
like visual c G. I okay, pull it up.

809
00:37:28,159 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: This is the moonnight long truck scene hearing go and

810
00:37:33,079 --> 00:37:39,880
here comes Uh is it crash? Oh yeah it does.

811
00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:41,840
And then like you get to see more of it

812
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,559
because to see what happens here there like crushes, Yeah,

813
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,280
yeah it does. Even his car looks really bad here

814
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,639
Man Disney plus E MC had some I had some

815
00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:57,719
real come on, I see. My issue is I I

816
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,079
think they're pretty on part.

817
00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 2: I think in the bottom right, oh my god, go

818
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:03,519
watch that video.

819
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,519
Speaker 1: I think my issue is that scene is not as

820
00:38:06,599 --> 00:38:08,119
vital as weird about.

821
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: That much longer scene too. So yeah, I guess I'll

822
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:11,320
give you that.

823
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 1: And I think it just takes me out because I'm

824
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,880
I'm starting to like not get emotional because like, I

825
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,960
know Kurby's coming back. I know they're not like killing

826
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,480
her off in her first appearance like completely even as

827
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:23,800
multiverse stuff, but it just was it was a daunting

828
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,599
thing to see and I just, yeah, I don't, I

829
00:38:27,679 --> 00:38:30,639
just you know, close ups. Luckily you know that kid

830
00:38:30,679 --> 00:38:32,400
when we get to the end credits, they've aged them

831
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,280
up four years, so hopefully that doesn't have to happen

832
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,400
until they have their daughter. And I hope they learn

833
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,159
once they have their daughter. In F four to two

834
00:38:38,599 --> 00:38:41,119
to yeah, work on the closets, which is again weird

835
00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:43,079
that the clos movie first steps because we all thought, oh,

836
00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:45,679
they're calling its first steps because that baby's gonna walk.

837
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,480
Baby doesn't fucking walk. You know, baby doesn't move at all,

838
00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:51,800
even even in the end credit he's sitting on a chair.

839
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he can walk.

840
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: What do we know that?

841
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: I would hope so he's like talk and four years old.

842
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: No, no, maybe that's why he grew fast, but he

843
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,360
still can't walk and stuff like that. But TC twin

844
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,719
for says that baby's body was super sized in that scene.

845
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,760
It was because they had a weird like blanket on

846
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,599
him and stuff. So yeah, I don't know anything else

847
00:39:14,639 --> 00:39:17,239
about Uh, you guys go back. What do you guys

848
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,760
think about the birthing scene as far as the you know,

849
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,960
they're don't got enough fuel. They're trying to shoot around

850
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,920
a star. You got the silver surfer just on their ass.

851
00:39:25,039 --> 00:39:27,119
They take all the surfer like it's like a boss ball,

852
00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:30,840
like three separate times, like they loser. Great moment where

853
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:35,000
the fuck surfer is gonna just tear the baby from Sue's.

854
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 3: Out wile.

855
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: Man. But that's where they hit like light speed, losing Okay,

856
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,760
that was close, and then the whole fucking like wormhole's

857
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,880
going on. So then they're shooting. Johnny shoots her with

858
00:39:46,039 --> 00:39:48,239
like spinning the bolt hits her, says okay, we got

859
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,920
rid of he now, and then she goes back and

860
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,800
they got to use a fucking black hole. They'll like

861
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,320
get rid of her. So I love the scene. It

862
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,440
felt like if we got the movie Tying video game,

863
00:39:56,639 --> 00:39:58,840
that might be the funnest boss battle of the game

864
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,599
to play. So I loved all the that stuff.

865
00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:04,079
Speaker 2: God take us back to the era when we just

866
00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:06,760
get the movie Tian video games. I wish she was

867
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,280
just how fantastical there there are these days. But no,

868
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,320
I I don't know for sure, but that might be

869
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,639
my favorite scene of the movie. Like I might have

870
00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:18,159
to stew on it a little bit longer, but yeah, visually,

871
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,400
I mean it looks fantastic. You know. Reminded me of

872
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,119
my arguably my favorite Nolan film, Interstellar, with just like

873
00:40:24,159 --> 00:40:29,480
the big giant black hole in the background. Like it's

874
00:40:29,519 --> 00:40:31,280
just a good moment because I feel like every character

875
00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:34,920
kind of has something to do in that sequence. Yeah,

876
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,519
like you know, reads.

877
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: Not really ill, like just like what am I doing? Here,

878
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,199
like even Johnny I was so happy. How Like, I

879
00:40:42,199 --> 00:40:44,199
don't think Chris Emmens joining really does anything in those

880
00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:46,320
fucking movies, right other than like bang Chicks and he

881
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,280
has great jokes. But this guy, like multiple time, so yeah, yeah,

882
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,119
but this guy is like like three occasions solves and

883
00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:54,239
helps the team, you.

884
00:40:54,159 --> 00:40:57,559
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, no, one hundred percent, Like I mean, Ben

885
00:40:57,639 --> 00:41:00,679
helps birth the child even though he's like the critical

886
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,599
pilot of this whole mission. Herbie comes in to step in.

887
00:41:03,679 --> 00:41:06,039
I guess read's doing some stretching powers in that moment,

888
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:09,239
but he's kind of just being the I mean, it

889
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,039
is important to hold her down in that moment, but

890
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,079
being the supporting husband. Yeah, Like, there's just so much

891
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:17,079
going on. And then as you mentioned, like Silver Surfer

892
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:18,880
is right on their ass, like it's such a just

893
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,960
a critical moment, so I think because everything, like, yeah,

894
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,599
there's just so much going on in that sequence. That

895
00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:29,400
might be my favorite, but fuck man, I mean, I mean, yeah,

896
00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:32,519
I don't want to veer us away, but my probably

897
00:41:32,559 --> 00:41:34,679
my favorite scene is honestly just like extension of what

898
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,440
the trailer was with the Silver Surfer's entrance. That one

899
00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:39,800
I had to put my popcorn down and I was goosebumping.

900
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,079
It was uh, it was getting me ready to go.

901
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: So like the first like the Harold.

902
00:41:44,639 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, like well like when they're just chilling, He's like, look,

903
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,960
I got like the automated cops just doing this. The

904
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,000
gang's getting taken out, and then it just costs like

905
00:41:51,159 --> 00:41:56,079
fucking more doors invading. It's just like red Sky. It's like,

906
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,840
what the hell's coming? And then you just have the

907
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,719
silver Surfer coming down. Oh my god, man, that that

908
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,199
that one got me hyped. But uh yeah, rounding out

909
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,119
that that space sequence though, I thought that was really

910
00:42:07,159 --> 00:42:10,920
really good shot. And I don't know, I like, in

911
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,199
my mind, I'm like the logistics of like birthing a

912
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,960
child in space and just like how much that must

913
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:18,000
just fuck up the body of the child. There's so

914
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,440
many moments in this moon like that child is permanent

915
00:42:20,519 --> 00:42:24,760
hearing damage just like like like a yeah, true, no,

916
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,199
one hundred percent that that would be the explanation why

917
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,800
it doesn't happen that way, But just how sensitive a

918
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,639
child Like isn't a baby like aren't there heads like

919
00:42:32,679 --> 00:42:34,880
not even hard when they're first like born, it's like

920
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,199
a like soft spot sometimes.

921
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, hardhead Franklin Richard's they call him in the comics.

922
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,679
Speaker 2: Too, that's his superhero name. It's like the jug those helmets.

923
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,199
Speaker 1: Well, he doesn't have to because that's his head. It's

924
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,719
that hard. He can just run with his head and

925
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:56,800
battering ram so on the hardhead bitch Gee's twin versus

926
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,480
that surfing. His power power scaling was all over the place.

927
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,000
In my opinion, she should have been able to handle

928
00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:03,159
F four alone with some feats she had in the

929
00:43:03,199 --> 00:43:06,119
first half of the movie.

930
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:06,639
Speaker 3: I don't know.

931
00:43:06,679 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: I guess she just me was never put in a

932
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,400
place where she had to like fight the F four alone,

933
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,119
like that chase scene when it leads a black hole.

934
00:43:15,199 --> 00:43:18,199
That's to me them out running her, you know, I

935
00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:21,239
just yeah, No, I think I was fine with all that.

936
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,000
None of that really bugged me the few times they

937
00:43:23,079 --> 00:43:25,599
hit her. Also, when you kind of learn as usual,

938
00:43:25,679 --> 00:43:27,599
like her heart's gonna half in it, I think that

939
00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:30,039
always helps, right because it's almost like a superman like

940
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,480
I'm holding back a little bit point of view. So No,

941
00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:37,079
I thought she was used perfectly fine. Again, I could

942
00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:39,920
have used more of her. I almost worried when they

943
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,840
got Galactus through like the transportation. I was like, man,

944
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,559
is Silver Surfer like not gonna get like a moment

945
00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:47,440
of redemption here When he first went through the portal,

946
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,400
I was like, she's just gonna okay, thanks for telling

947
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,559
me I was a bad person fly away. But luckily

948
00:43:53,559 --> 00:43:56,440
she came in and made her move there. But yeah,

949
00:43:56,519 --> 00:43:58,239
Julie Gardner was great, But I wish we could have

950
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:03,280
used her a bit more. I don't know what you do,

951
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,320
per se, like maybe she could have been around the

952
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,639
final bat a little bit more, maybe more scenes of

953
00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:10,280
like the human stuff. Again, I love that visual when

954
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,119
she gets like sucked on, when it's like this like

955
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,320
blue white sort of Earth or planet like beat she's

956
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,639
on and then just this red beam. And I could

957
00:44:18,679 --> 00:44:20,960
have used a bit more of that, you know, because,

958
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,360
like I said, she's a very talented actress. So I was.

959
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,599
I think it got a little bit above my expectations because,

960
00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:29,239
like you said, I think some of those trailers worried

961
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,360
me that she was gonna be very little, like just

962
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,480
very just a you know, almost a cosmic goon. I

963
00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:36,440
think she did have more than that, but I still

964
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,159
was wanting a little bit more. But as I've said,

965
00:44:39,519 --> 00:44:41,559
I kind of want that for her. I want that

966
00:44:41,639 --> 00:44:43,599
for Ben. I even want that for johnn a little bit.

967
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,760
Even Read and Sue. I could took a couple more

968
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,400
Read and Sue's scenes. Again, this movie is like two hours.

969
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,440
That's a classic MC thing. And even with Superman that

970
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,079
happened a couple weeks ago, same thing. Some of our

971
00:44:53,079 --> 00:44:55,440
biggest problems were like, this movie would be so much

972
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,119
better if you could add fifteen twenty minutes of this,

973
00:44:57,119 --> 00:44:58,280
this and this, and I feel like the same thing

974
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,440
with this movie. I know they're obsessed with let's make

975
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,119
it shorter and getting all these screens, but I think

976
00:45:03,159 --> 00:45:04,760
a law of these care same thing. Like Ben and

977
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,519
Reid have like one scene alone and that's really it.

978
00:45:08,519 --> 00:45:09,960
And they're supposed to be like best friends, you know,

979
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,400
and they're always around. Don't get me wrong, but I

980
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,159
would be down for more stuff Like in that moment

981
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:19,760
when I love it. It's very comic coded when they go, hey,

982
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,519
only way to get Galacs here, we're gonna have to

983
00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:25,000
use the baby is bait and Kirby's already realized that,

984
00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:27,880
so she's freaking out. But when Ben realized that, he

985
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,679
seems like a shamed that his friend would even think

986
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,000
that way, but we don't really get them talking at all.

987
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,559
It's just him and Johnny and the next scene like

988
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,039
joking around like should I go talk to him? Should

989
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:38,800
you go talk to him? You know, Like I would

990
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,719
love a scene of Ben being like what the fuck

991
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,960
are you thinking here? Like in a way where because

992
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,960
that happens many times where Ben and Sue kind of

993
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,079
gang up on, which was even in the Ultimate Universe,

994
00:45:48,119 --> 00:45:52,199
she ends up leaving like read for Ben and Reid

995
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,320
becomes like a villain of that universe. Like there's times

996
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,000
where they become romantically involved. So I thought they didn't

997
00:45:58,039 --> 00:45:59,519
do that, but I thought they showed that they did

998
00:45:59,519 --> 00:46:01,880
have more of a connection. And I just wish there

999
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,039
was more in general kind of have everybody. So I know,

1000
00:46:04,039 --> 00:46:06,400
I went veered off, but just the Surfer remind me

1001
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,400
of just other instances of the movies that I could

1002
00:46:08,519 --> 00:46:10,199
use a little bit more, even say thing more Surfer

1003
00:46:10,199 --> 00:46:12,320
and Galactus stuff would have been great, you know.

1004
00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I completely agree. I think it's touck

1005
00:46:20,599 --> 00:46:22,800
like this is a two hour movie, but like the

1006
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,239
pacing feels really fast, like I thought we were moving

1007
00:46:26,639 --> 00:46:29,079
rocket speed throughout this film and not in like a

1008
00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:32,280
bad way. It was just it just felt like we

1009
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:37,679
weren't messing around of like extending certain scenes like you know,

1010
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,760
we you don't breaking the fourth wall. We talked about

1011
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,480
the game movie and like there's a moment when you know,

1012
00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:45,639
maybe it wakes up in South of the Border and

1013
00:46:45,679 --> 00:46:48,159
it just like it feels like the movie pacing wise

1014
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,639
just like hits the brakes and then and then it's

1015
00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:52,719
like really, but like I don't think this movie has

1016
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,320
any moments like that at Alllogy. It just feels like

1017
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,199
we're going at a constant you know, point eight eight

1018
00:46:58,559 --> 00:47:02,039
light speed, like like like mister read Richards tells us

1019
00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:05,639
to fly at and like, you know, you're talking about

1020
00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:08,639
some certain scenes, Like yeah, I definitely would have enjoyed more,

1021
00:47:09,519 --> 00:47:12,719
but I don't think like I can take points away

1022
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:17,119
for maybe not having like another Silver Surfer and Galactus

1023
00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:21,000
scene or like you laid out with any of the members,

1024
00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:23,440
Like I obviously would have just taken more because I

1025
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,360
enjoyed what we Like, I enjoyed the on screen chemistry

1026
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,960
and just what was shown. But I don't know, I

1027
00:47:30,159 --> 00:47:32,039
thought it worked for the most part for me, and

1028
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,760
even the Silver Surfer, like specifically stuff like with her

1029
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,519
and her home planet, or just the dynamic between her

1030
00:47:38,599 --> 00:47:43,199
and Galactus. I think that might be the one I

1031
00:47:43,199 --> 00:47:45,480
would have, Like, if I could only choose one scene

1032
00:47:45,519 --> 00:47:47,320
to get like one extra you know, a couple of

1033
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,960
minutes on or just another throw to them scene, probably

1034
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,079
would have been between Silver Surfer and Galactus, just just

1035
00:47:55,119 --> 00:47:57,639
to see I don't know a little bit more of

1036
00:47:57,679 --> 00:48:02,039
that dynamic. And because like you know, it's just okay,

1037
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:06,679
he's controlling her because she sacrificed herself to save her

1038
00:48:06,679 --> 00:48:12,000
planet and it's just like ultimate loyalty. But like I guess,

1039
00:48:12,039 --> 00:48:13,719
I guess not because at the end she kind of

1040
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,239
goes against him, and like there's not really an explanation

1041
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,079
on like how she's able to do that, Like why

1042
00:48:18,119 --> 00:48:20,000
wouldn't she have just done that earlier on? But I

1043
00:48:20,199 --> 00:48:23,239
guess because they had her, they had Galactus on the ropes.

1044
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:24,880
This is her one chance to like put in the

1045
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,400
final blow, like she wouldn't have had the power to

1046
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:28,920
do that on her own. I guess that would be

1047
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:29,440
the reasoning.

1048
00:48:29,519 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, and I just was clear unclear. They kind

1049
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,239
of made seem I had no point thought in this movie.

1050
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,519
I thought it was okay, Yeah, they made the sacrifice.

1051
00:48:39,519 --> 00:48:41,840
She was that, but they almost made like she had

1052
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,519
amnesia to a point because they play all these voices

1053
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:46,840
and joys like these are all the planets.

1054
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,119
Speaker 2: You've imagine because it's just been so long, like she

1055
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,559
probably was taken like millions of years.

1056
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 4: Well it's like the equivalent let's let's say, like look

1057
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,840
at and or when they put Bis up to the

1058
00:48:57,039 --> 00:48:59,679
hardware where she's to listen to everyone dying, like all

1059
00:48:59,679 --> 00:49:01,960
the people being like that's a race being annihilated. I

1060
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,320
think when you're in this situation, you're finally put up

1061
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:06,920
to the put up to bat, do you have to

1062
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,840
hear like hundreds, maybe thousands of worlds all screaming like

1063
00:49:11,039 --> 00:49:12,440
please save us, and you're.

1064
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 3: Responsible for all of them.

1065
00:49:14,039 --> 00:49:16,079
Speaker 1: The only different well, the only difference though is like

1066
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:18,679
Bix is not responsible for all that, right.

1067
00:49:18,519 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 3: Like Biggs is like a good per worse then for her, right.

1068
00:49:21,559 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I just thought it was an easy turn.

1069
00:49:25,079 --> 00:49:28,480
I liked the idea of Johnny that was his little

1070
00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:31,239
mcguffin of hear her talk you figure out was sentenced,

1071
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,599
got an algorithm, did all this stuff. I just thought

1072
00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:36,079
it was gonna lead to more and I was fine

1073
00:49:36,119 --> 00:49:37,840
with him that being the way he finds out the

1074
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,039
origin of her I thought, Okay, that's very clever. But

1075
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:42,519
for that to kind of be her turning point, I

1076
00:49:42,519 --> 00:49:44,320
I don't know. I think I needed more from the

1077
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,760
character to realize why she turned on Galactus because when

1078
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,079
it's like, yeah, it sucks that all these people are dying,

1079
00:49:51,159 --> 00:49:53,199
but I'm still doing this for the same reason I started.

1080
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,880
Because if I don't do this, he's gonna kill We're

1081
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,880
presuming that might have been her daughter or even a

1082
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,800
little sister and all these other people I love. So

1083
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,719
it's like, yeah, these voices do really suck, but like

1084
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,079
the motivation hasn't changed, Like I thought maybe he could

1085
00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:07,760
find a way out for he or something, but no,

1086
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,639
so I guess it just that didn't fully pay off

1087
00:50:10,639 --> 00:50:12,599
for me, like I was hoping for it too. Not

1088
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,880
a bad scene. I thought it was fun enough and

1089
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,239
you know, again gave Johnny something due and I thought

1090
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,559
they had some fun chemistry. And I hope we bump

1091
00:50:19,639 --> 00:50:22,599
into her again. I hope it's not just like you know,

1092
00:50:22,639 --> 00:50:24,559
I know people like where's my Noirm rat? But it's

1093
00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:27,039
like I had no issues with the shell ball being

1094
00:50:27,039 --> 00:50:28,880
like the main Silver Surfer here, and I'd be fine

1095
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,719
she was again in the future, like I would have

1096
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,719
liked more. But so that that will be a little

1097
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,239
shit if we do actually never see her again. If

1098
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,519
we can see her again, then maybe you kind of

1099
00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:40,840
kind of build upon this, but we never see her again,

1100
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,159
it feels kind of a little lackluster overall. Oh, then,

1101
00:50:44,199 --> 00:50:46,199
I think the presentation was very good and I think

1102
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,639
the the just the vibe of that character worked very well.

1103
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:56,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna bring up TC twenty four's comment here,

1104
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,519
so she should have no problem snatching Franklin like at

1105
00:50:59,559 --> 00:51:02,239
the end sequence. That definitely was in my mind when

1106
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:06,000
it's like from Galactus perspective, like why is he even

1107
00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:08,119
coming to Earth? Why not be like, hey, Silver Surfer

1108
00:51:08,639 --> 00:51:10,079
and take Franklin from them.

1109
00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: Well, we don't know if she went back though, right,

1110
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:14,559
we don't know if she ever went back, and that's

1111
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:15,400
why we could use more.

1112
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 2: But she she freaks.

1113
00:51:17,519 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 1: Out, and even then too at the end, when you're

1114
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,320
bringing up like she destroys all the scenes, why doesn't

1115
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,159
she go get Franklin. She does, like she goes to

1116
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,199
but that's when Johnny plays the tapes, right, so he

1117
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,039
that was the last resort of, Hey, if things fucking

1118
00:51:30,119 --> 00:51:33,920
go shit, I'm gonna pull the origin story on her. Right,

1119
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,159
So again I was all fun that because Johnny got

1120
00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:38,480
to her an emotional level and we never know if

1121
00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:40,519
he or that could be a thing of Galactis of

1122
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,000
she's the Harald. But that doesn't mean he wants her

1123
00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:46,000
to do the dirty work per se. Right, Like it's

1124
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,440
tricky because he did, because it went from Clactus being hey,

1125
00:51:50,679 --> 00:51:52,480
I wn't destroy your plant, just give me that baby,

1126
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:53,880
like it sounds like it was literally a deal he

1127
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,719
was making to now we're gonna get that fucking baby

1128
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,000
like like it was like he sent her after the chase.

1129
00:52:00,199 --> 00:52:02,079
He was disappointed when she didn't get it, but I

1130
00:52:02,199 --> 00:52:04,719
was fine with her not getting the baby due to

1131
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,440
the emotional stuff. And then, like I said, the end,

1132
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,639
we don't know she ever went back to clact She

1133
00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:10,840
could have just been hanging out on the cosmost waiting

1134
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,199
to kick him in the face of the board.

1135
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's a fair observation. I didn't really think

1136
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,400
about that. I just assumed it's like, where else is

1137
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,400
she gonna go back to the mother ship? But because

1138
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,480
I imagine he would have at least used her like as

1139
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,159
a weapon in that invasion, at least for backup. But yeah,

1140
00:52:24,159 --> 00:52:26,599
if she never went back, that would make sense why

1141
00:52:26,599 --> 00:52:29,199
he used to just get down there. Great entrance too.

1142
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,440
He's just like on this floating throne. And then just

1143
00:52:31,519 --> 00:52:33,639
like way I thought Godzilla was gonna come out of

1144
00:52:33,679 --> 00:52:35,880
the ocean just have a whole fucking Kaiju battle there.

1145
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,599
But god damn did Galactus look good. I was so impressed.

1146
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,719
Oh yes, but Taylor, do you want to throw in anything?

1147
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,559
Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, I just want to so highlighted silver Surfer.

1148
00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:52,679
She was absolutely fantastic. And when you would if they

1149
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,559
put this out in like a little clipht I slip

1150
00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:56,960
it out before the movie dropped, just when she's like,

1151
00:52:57,599 --> 00:53:00,519
I harold his beginning, I harold your end. I harolds

1152
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,840
every time, even the theaters meant. I just get the

1153
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,079
hairs go up in my arms as goosebumps, just the

1154
00:53:05,079 --> 00:53:07,599
way she delivers that line. And you got the Canada

1155
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,079
Dry advertisement in the background. I saw too can of.

1156
00:53:10,119 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 2: Dry as they had that ad on repeat. That was

1157
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,519
like my eyes just went to that every single time

1158
00:53:15,599 --> 00:53:18,079
when they would go to like what is it in

1159
00:53:18,119 --> 00:53:21,559
New York where they had their fucking what's happening? Uh?

1160
00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:23,239
Times square, times square, thank you.

1161
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was just cause your attention.

1162
00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 4: But yeah, she's she's awesome, and I like that she

1163
00:53:28,679 --> 00:53:31,800
just I like everything about them breaking down her language,

1164
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,079
Johnny figuring that out and just him kind of going

1165
00:53:35,199 --> 00:53:39,519
rogue and just putting all all the language against her

1166
00:53:39,679 --> 00:53:41,719
just so she hears it in her language. But it's

1167
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,800
all these different races, just kind of like pleading for

1168
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,000
their lives and pleading mercy and everything. Like it's just

1169
00:53:46,039 --> 00:53:48,280
it hits hits home and she just goes like crazy

1170
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,119
and she flies off and yeah, just a little.

1171
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 3: Bit of Baxter on there.

1172
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 4: It's it's it's, it's it's great. I think they did

1173
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,480
a really really good job with her. And I know

1174
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,519
people were talking about how she looked c G I

1175
00:54:00,599 --> 00:54:02,159
wise and the trailers and before.

1176
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 3: I think she looks absolutely stow.

1177
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 4: Like we've already talked about the effects, but she looks

1178
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,800
so freaking good. Like there was a part where it

1179
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,800
was like a backshot where you see her hair. It's like, man,

1180
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,679
it looks like real metal fucking hair, and then it rotates.

1181
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: Over your back.

1182
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 3: Good backshot, good back.

1183
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, Johnny, anytimes the Hairld's coming leading into Essential

1184
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,159
essentially leading into Galactus.

1185
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, everything that whole sequence where they were fleeing away

1186
00:54:31,559 --> 00:54:35,880
and like she's like a silver surfer is on like

1187
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:39,000
riding the fucking lava, and it's like, god, damn, this

1188
00:54:39,079 --> 00:54:39,639
looks cool.

1189
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: Had like, legit, she was surfing.

1190
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 4: I was going I was getting flashbackstick to the back

1191
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,880
to like the early two thousands of biotical game playing

1192
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,800
the Toatahuo surfing on lava.

1193
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 3: I was like, man, this is fucking great. I love this.

1194
00:54:52,639 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: I never read drops the You know, he can make

1195
00:54:57,559 --> 00:54:59,199
up all these terms for the past ten years, but

1196
00:54:59,199 --> 00:54:59,880
I would believe him.

1197
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 4: He just like, well, they're that sequence and so many

1198
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,880
others because Madison Leonov is like I'd love to play it,

1199
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,960
like go on this roller goes to ride if this

1200
00:55:09,039 --> 00:55:10,320
is a ride, but.

1201
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,599
Speaker 3: That's at the back, so yeah, the backshot.

1202
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 4: So many of these moments in this movie felt like

1203
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:20,000
video games, where it was mister Fantastic scaling Galactus Galactys

1204
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,239
like his backside that's right. Yeah, It's like, man, this

1205
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,480
is just like a like a video game whole kind

1206
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:26,480
of like Defeat the Boss.

1207
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,079
Speaker 3: And I loved all that. I was eating it up.

1208
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 4: But yeah, particularly that space sequence when they're fleeing, and yeah,

1209
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,519
silver surfers trying to like get at them and whatnot.

1210
00:55:34,599 --> 00:55:37,199
Just floating on the lava that was awesome, and and

1211
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:38,320
just all those different.

1212
00:55:38,119 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 3: Things and Galactus.

1213
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 4: When you first meet him, he doesn't feel like like Thanos.

1214
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,559
Feels like Thanos in his own way, but this felt

1215
00:55:45,559 --> 00:55:48,559
like just another terrifying it. Even though he got like

1216
00:55:49,039 --> 00:55:51,880
slapped and pushed into that black hole, I don't for

1217
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,480
a second feel like he's any lesser of like a terrifying,

1218
00:55:55,559 --> 00:55:58,440
like all powerful being like I. As soon as he

1219
00:55:58,519 --> 00:56:01,800
got put in there, and like, you know, he's not dead,

1220
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,719
I still feel I'd feel uneasy and scared knowing he's

1221
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,679
still out there and he is going to come back.

1222
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,519
When I'm glad that they didn't kill him off and

1223
00:56:09,679 --> 00:56:14,559
he's gonna come back. But he's just he was so scary,

1224
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,159
and he looked great, but everything was his, like the

1225
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,960
sounds of when his eyes would have like his helmet

1226
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,679
would shield over his eyes compared to his actual eyes,

1227
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,159
and just like that humming noise and the way he

1228
00:56:26,199 --> 00:56:29,159
looks and that ominous presence that he commands and whatnot.

1229
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:32,039
I'm okay, with them not having him scale up and

1230
00:56:32,079 --> 00:56:34,719
down in size, I'm glad they kept him in his

1231
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,599
his big form. I had a hunch maybe he might

1232
00:56:36,639 --> 00:56:38,920
shrink when he gets to that platform so he could

1233
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,800
pick up the baby or something like that, but he

1234
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,920
didn't need to. He just just he'd stayed as giant man,

1235
00:56:46,039 --> 00:56:47,639
giant size, and it was great.

1236
00:56:47,679 --> 00:56:50,679
Speaker 3: He was just fucking terrifying.

1237
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: Which you think they did a good job too. Whoever

1238
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,159
had the idea to put him right next to the

1239
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,880
statue of yeah, statue of Liberty, he.

1240
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 3: Just scoffs at it kind of yeah.

1241
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: But it also gives you a scale sizing, right because

1242
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,119
you kind of know, okay that I can feel that

1243
00:57:04,119 --> 00:57:04,760
that works.

1244
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,679
Speaker 2: And yeah, that man in comparison not this big.

1245
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,159
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't I didn't know.

1246
00:57:10,199 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 2: I definitely think gas is bigger. But just in relation

1247
00:57:13,039 --> 00:57:14,880
to uh, Liberty.

1248
00:57:14,599 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: I feel like he's getting to like his waist maybe

1249
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:21,960
you know galactus waist. Yeah, I've got.

1250
00:57:22,079 --> 00:57:24,239
Speaker 3: A photo for scale here that.

1251
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:29,239
Speaker 6: It's gonna be a cautious ways galactus.

1252
00:57:29,599 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: But it's it's sir for giving Galactus the backshots with

1253
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,280
the board. Just run me again, uh and I again

1254
00:57:36,559 --> 00:57:39,639
I could use a bit more dialogue from Galactus because

1255
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,760
Ralph Anderson one of the best voices in Hollywood. I

1256
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,360
thought we got that big speech in the middle with

1257
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,480
the you know, give me your child everything like that.

1258
00:57:47,639 --> 00:57:49,320
I thought there was one more big speech coming, but

1259
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,400
there there really wasn't you know. Just he lands on Earth,

1260
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,079
has a couple more lines, and then he's taken out

1261
00:57:55,079 --> 00:57:56,920
because yeah, I agree with you, like he isn't in

1262
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,440
a sense like a different scary than Thanos. But you know,

1263
00:58:00,519 --> 00:58:02,679
people don't read it wrong, like he's usually never an

1264
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,679
actual like Avengers level threat. As you saw, they dealt

1265
00:58:05,719 --> 00:58:08,159
with them, like the four of them dealt with them.

1266
00:58:08,239 --> 00:58:11,239
I don't gonna say pretty easily, but you know, most

1267
00:58:11,519 --> 00:58:15,320
it seems like most the villains they fought are pretty

1268
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,679
muchy to you. Moleman is like now an acquaintance and

1269
00:58:17,679 --> 00:58:20,239
that was when their main villains. So like if it

1270
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,519
was like endgame, like think about Spider Man, the all

1271
00:58:23,639 --> 00:58:26,519
the Avengers, the Guardians, like Glack is getting fucked up,

1272
00:58:26,519 --> 00:58:29,039
like he ain't that guy. He's just he's a top

1273
00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:31,719
heavy no no, no, no no, and com books there he

1274
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,159
ain't ever fucking leading the crossovers because he's just a

1275
00:58:35,199 --> 00:58:38,239
top heavy guy. He's no brains, he's all uh, he's

1276
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,400
no brains. He's all brown, which is great, and they

1277
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,280
can do some damage, and he's always a threat. Don't

1278
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,880
get me wrong. But like, you get enough heroes together,

1279
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,920
glacts is pretty easy to you know, figure out. Well,

1280
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:48,760
that's that's just it.

1281
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 4: You get enough heroes together that that makes sense that

1282
00:58:51,559 --> 00:58:56,639
they if they if they didn't have Silver Surfer, then

1283
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,719
Johnny's gone, he's Sack making a sacrifice. And that's already

1284
00:58:59,719 --> 00:59:01,960
after the fact that Sue's storm is dead now at

1285
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,719
this point. And yeah, but they had baby. If they

1286
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,599
didn't have baby, that would have been a different story.

1287
00:59:07,719 --> 00:59:09,719
Speaker 1: I mean, but they got but the baby. But that's

1288
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,840
a separate argument. That's Sue's life, right, I'm talking about

1289
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,960
just being Galactus. They still would be Galactus without the

1290
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,320
baby brings Sue back. That was after the fact, right,

1291
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,559
And hey, if Johnny has to die, John's to die,

1292
00:59:20,599 --> 00:59:22,840
you know he's gonna come back. You know, Surfer's gonna

1293
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,159
come back and Galactus, so maybe he'll come back stronger,

1294
00:59:25,199 --> 00:59:26,679
maybe he'll be on the board, which was like a

1295
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,599
That was another weird thing too, when it just felt like,

1296
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,400
is Johnny did he missed the point they fly up

1297
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,440
there after he plays all these audio logs and he's like,

1298
00:59:36,079 --> 00:59:39,440
take me instead. It's like no, dude, Clearly, like the

1299
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,960
guy said, like this baby has all these powers, like

1300
00:59:42,239 --> 00:59:44,199
he just turn on fire. So it felt that felt

1301
00:59:44,199 --> 00:59:46,719
like a weird beat, like we were missing something or

1302
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:51,840
he just didn't understand the situation of let me go. Yeah,

1303
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,559
it's like, yeah, sure goes to the galactus and become

1304
00:59:54,599 --> 00:59:57,039
a sacrifice for nothing, you know, like he's still gonna

1305
00:59:57,039 --> 01:00:01,480
come after the baby. So yeah, well let's take our

1306
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:05,559
second a break and we'll be right back. And we're back.

1307
01:00:05,559 --> 01:00:06,320
Where do we want to go?

1308
01:00:06,639 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 4: Now we go, here's the size charts versus.

1309
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 3: So there's tower.

1310
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: Though you put you make Avenger tower, I guarantee you,

1311
01:00:17,519 --> 01:00:19,760
Tony probably has like a fucking suit where he can.

1312
01:00:19,639 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 4: Just fly into and he's the tower turns into the sat.

1313
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,039
Speaker 1: He becomes, uh, you know, thing like that. And I

1314
01:00:25,039 --> 01:00:26,800
guess we could talk about that because we just you

1315
01:00:27,039 --> 01:00:28,880
tell you let us into it. The video gameness of

1316
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,760
it all. But yeah, I love the blackness thing the scale,

1317
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,840
which is so funny because we just got Superman a

1318
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:37,880
couple weeks ago, and there's like two similar beats where

1319
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:42,039
it's like bad guy or like the city turns against

1320
01:00:42,079 --> 01:00:44,280
the heroes and then like a Kaiju battle, but like,

1321
01:00:45,079 --> 01:00:49,000
I'm sorry, this is like just fucking bodies the Kaiju

1322
01:00:49,039 --> 01:00:51,360
battle and Superman like that. And don't get me wrong,

1323
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,800
that Kaiju battle is more for fun to establish some stuff.

1324
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,920
But even the scale, I never felt the danger that

1325
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,480
I did in this that I did in Superman. And

1326
01:00:59,559 --> 01:01:02,719
uh yeah, great dramatic stuff here, great all around. I

1327
01:01:02,719 --> 01:01:05,480
swear was asking, non, was I swear we saw a

1328
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,519
photo or in a teaser of Suxstorm doing the thing

1329
01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:10,119
and she was bleeding from the nose.

1330
01:01:10,559 --> 01:01:14,199
Speaker 2: That was remember that too, and that was bifect.

1331
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,039
Speaker 1: Yeah well no, but it's a Mendel factor. Was in

1332
01:01:17,079 --> 01:01:20,280
the teaser right, like it's there the teaser. I'll try,

1333
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:24,239
I think, because that happens in the comics. But it's

1334
01:01:24,239 --> 01:01:26,639
like when Sue was like use an altar, because that

1335
01:01:26,719 --> 01:01:29,639
was a moment when she literally turned Galaxus around. You

1336
01:01:29,639 --> 01:01:32,400
could see Pottle shuffle in the theater like oh fuck, like

1337
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,679
she's like, you know, evolving right here. But yeah, I was,

1338
01:01:35,719 --> 01:01:38,400
I was pissed. No blood coming from the nose. But yeah, no,

1339
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,840
nos loved I think everything about the Galactus stuff, like

1340
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:43,639
in the City it was. It was great. It's come

1341
01:01:43,679 --> 01:01:46,039
from a guy that I think Galactus is kind of

1342
01:01:46,039 --> 01:01:48,559
a cheesy villainin concept, but they made it work from here,

1343
01:01:48,679 --> 01:01:49,079
so he.

1344
01:01:49,679 --> 01:01:52,599
Speaker 2: Should be so much more interesting. I feel like the

1345
01:01:52,639 --> 01:01:55,840
setup of of him just being around for billions of years. Yeah,

1346
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,079
and like like like his introduction when they go to

1347
01:01:58,119 --> 01:02:01,880
his ship, like that is that is a great sequence.

1348
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,079
Speaker 1: Emerges from the planet to It's like they're like the

1349
01:02:05,119 --> 01:02:08,880
castle all set back, Like what is that? Like that

1350
01:02:09,039 --> 01:02:11,239
was like it was scary. It's like, what the fuck

1351
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:11,880
is happening?

1352
01:02:12,519 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 2: His like intro to the movie was just was like

1353
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,000
ten a tan. It was so well done. The speech

1354
01:02:17,159 --> 01:02:19,960
was just so menacing when he just like hones in

1355
01:02:20,079 --> 01:02:22,159
like even before they get there, you know, his little

1356
01:02:22,199 --> 01:02:24,559
vision comes out hones in on the child and it's

1357
01:02:24,599 --> 01:02:26,639
just like, oh God, like what did we do here?

1358
01:02:26,719 --> 01:02:27,599
This is so bad?

1359
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: And that's what says you shouldn't it was a mistake,

1360
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:31,519
you know.

1361
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. TC twenty four mentioned it. But like when she

1362
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,199
just floats in and like just goes through, she just

1363
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,400
no clips through the walls just like floats in you

1364
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,559
shouldn't have come here, Galactus will see you now and

1365
01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:45,400
then and then she just zooms off. Man, there's something

1366
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,800
so badass. And I'm actually gonna bring up a you know,

1367
01:02:49,119 --> 01:02:52,280
a funny DC movie in the likes of Black Atom Here.

1368
01:02:53,079 --> 01:02:57,880
One thing with that movie is just the effect of

1369
01:02:58,039 --> 01:03:00,559
the rock just floating. Like that's just such a badass

1370
01:03:00,559 --> 01:03:02,719
thing when you just have a character that likes you know,

1371
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,320
Superman level, like instead of just standing and see it's

1372
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,760
like he just floats and just the idea like Silver

1373
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:11,039
Surfer just like like there's no it's like a UFO, like,

1374
01:03:11,159 --> 01:03:13,440
you know, there's no wind or anything. She just comes

1375
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:17,119
in super just elegantly floats right in beautiful.

1376
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:19,079
Speaker 1: That's a part of her body or not?

1377
01:03:19,199 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 2: For yeah four that is in relation to U to

1378
01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:25,119
my name, good shot up.

1379
01:03:25,519 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: See I'm different. I won't even fix her. I'll just

1380
01:03:27,519 --> 01:03:29,719
let her be. I'll let her do whatever she wants.

1381
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,400
Universe sure as on the board, isn't.

1382
01:03:33,199 --> 01:03:35,039
Speaker 2: It where it's like she's coming to destroy your world

1383
01:03:35,239 --> 01:03:37,599
And You're like, oh man, I can fix her, I

1384
01:03:37,639 --> 01:03:38,719
can turn around.

1385
01:03:39,239 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: But I'm saying destroy, just leave me alive. Let me

1386
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,880
take you with No. No, I'm going with Sue.

1387
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 2: I'm going I want to back shots first before you.

1388
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take some silver surfer backshots for sure, some

1389
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,920
silver on your back listen, if you, if you, if

1390
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,639
you let me get some backshots, I'll give you that.

1391
01:03:56,679 --> 01:03:57,760
Fucking baby, I'll.

1392
01:03:59,159 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 2: Steal my sister.

1393
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,719
Speaker 1: I'll find a way to get you. Franklin here, you're

1394
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,400
just give me two minutes of us on that bored

1395
01:04:06,559 --> 01:04:07,159
you know so?

1396
01:04:08,599 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, Ralph Ralph Inoson. I remember when he

1397
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:13,639
got cast it and it's like, well, that's gonna be

1398
01:04:13,679 --> 01:04:16,239
great because his voice is just so so phenomenal. There

1399
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:17,960
was a moment when he was actually in the city,

1400
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,920
and of course we just recently did a retro. I'm like, man,

1401
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,800
give me Sam Elliott as Galactus and just a Earth

1402
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,639
Earth eight one two. You know, I want to see

1403
01:04:27,639 --> 01:04:28,440
the Sam Elliott.

1404
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,119
Speaker 3: Give me your Sam Elliott voice.

1405
01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:33,079
Speaker 2: Your dude, No, I can't fucking do it.

1406
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,559
Speaker 3: I need that baby, how boy.

1407
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:42,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's that's hard. But he was great. I

1408
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,880
wish he had like just a badass like fuck you

1409
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:46,920
to the world when he came to the planet of

1410
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,360
just like how insignificant like these ants are to him,

1411
01:04:50,719 --> 01:04:51,960
but we didn't get that.

1412
01:04:52,119 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 4: So he even says that too. When they try to

1413
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,239
pull a fast one, he's like clever bugs.

1414
01:04:58,639 --> 01:04:59,519
Speaker 3: He walks off.

1415
01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:02,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, they fucked his eyes good though, for one of

1416
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,760
those moments when they when he like shot the fire

1417
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:09,079
and Sue like did a magnifying glass on. Oh you know, so.

1418
01:05:09,599 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 3: I love that old switch room.

1419
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 4: It was so simple, and I just when Paedro just

1420
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,119
like walks out there and quickly puts the empty thing,

1421
01:05:15,159 --> 01:05:17,920
I thought, man, you could have put like a heat

1422
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,800
signature or something in there to Yeah, but it's got

1423
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:31,960
a clear cover that coats down over top, Like yeah.

1424
01:05:28,679 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 2: You just reminded me too, Like they're they're their plan

1425
01:05:32,119 --> 01:05:34,639
to just move the planet, and he's like, you won't

1426
01:05:34,639 --> 01:05:36,400
be able to find us for millions of years. It's

1427
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:40,360
like fuck off, man, Like yes he can. Like Silver Surfer,

1428
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:44,360
like she travels across galaxies like pretty fucking fast, and

1429
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:48,920
she just goes through their FTL travel like what a

1430
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:50,440
what a bold bold claim?

1431
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 4: But they would just teleport again, right when that's what you.

1432
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: Would hope, right, they would just keep the technology someone

1433
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,400
knowing and then they just keep keep teleporting.

1434
01:05:59,519 --> 01:06:03,239
Speaker 2: So Okay, two percent window, is that what you said?

1435
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,079
Or two percent variants on the Goldilock zone of like

1436
01:06:06,239 --> 01:06:08,280
landing in the zone.

1437
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:13,119
Speaker 4: Within a two percent Margarine of of that basically Margarin

1438
01:06:13,199 --> 01:06:16,400
and Butter. I mean it's still I don't think logistically

1439
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:17,960
it would work because you'd have to have the bright

1440
01:06:18,079 --> 01:06:20,719
Moon set up. I mean, if you instantly teleport there,

1441
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,440
I think Tsunamis would just fucking swoop the whole planet

1442
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,280
because your moon and sun are gone, right, so how

1443
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,639
you get backshots everywhere? How you the Moon's not there

1444
01:06:28,679 --> 01:06:31,480
to control the tides in and out, so you'd just

1445
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:32,400
be you'd be fucked.

1446
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:37,119
Speaker 1: But yeah, like I guess it's better than I think

1447
01:06:37,119 --> 01:06:40,760
their backup plan of obviously using Franklin that's dangerous get

1448
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,920
the wrist there, but that probably was a better plan

1449
01:06:44,039 --> 01:06:47,039
than the let's teleport the planet and hopefully it all

1450
01:06:48,239 --> 01:06:51,239
works out and stuff. But you know, we got there.

1451
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,440
I did like that scene too, when they're about to

1452
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,800
teleport the planet and just start they go, and I

1453
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,440
didn't even think of surfer. I was like, okay, what

1454
01:06:57,559 --> 01:06:59,199
is going on here? And then it was just like

1455
01:06:59,239 --> 01:07:00,360
the Shaws that just like.

1456
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,599
Speaker 4: This galactic cultists that were walking people that I.

1457
01:07:03,639 --> 01:07:05,159
Speaker 1: Was sure there's a power edge, but then they just

1458
01:07:05,159 --> 01:07:07,639
show all these different countries just like boom boom. And

1459
01:07:07,639 --> 01:07:09,679
I love when they do, like the birds I view

1460
01:07:09,679 --> 01:07:11,599
from out her space on Earth where you're just seeing

1461
01:07:11,639 --> 01:07:14,800
the surfer like go around. It's just like cool, fuck man,

1462
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,599
like these these this family can't catch a break, and

1463
01:07:17,639 --> 01:07:20,599
this has when tensions are high because again probably one

1464
01:07:20,599 --> 01:07:22,440
of I don't know if it's my favorite my favorite

1465
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,199
scenes is we got a little bit of that. When

1466
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,079
he was talking about the plan. I was like, oh, well,

1467
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:28,039
I haven't thought it through yet, and he's just She's like,

1468
01:07:28,119 --> 01:07:30,039
yeah you have thought there No, no, like that's something else,

1469
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:32,559
Well come with them. But was like I said, what

1470
01:07:32,679 --> 01:07:34,880
The stuff I enjoy with reading Sue and Sue many

1471
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,840
times is like left read because she's just like you

1472
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,760
don't get it. Like there's one comic I love where

1473
01:07:40,039 --> 01:07:42,440
she like has a great night with them. They have

1474
01:07:42,559 --> 01:07:44,239
sex and everything like that, and then she leaves them

1475
01:07:44,239 --> 01:07:46,039
note like I'm leaving you like I just want one

1476
01:07:46,039 --> 01:07:48,079
more good night with you, but I can't handle you.

1477
01:07:48,119 --> 01:07:51,199
And I love that scene in the bedroom when they

1478
01:07:51,239 --> 01:07:53,280
when he's like, oh well yeah, they would wants to

1479
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,519
give the baby because it's ethically makes sense and mathematically

1480
01:07:56,599 --> 01:07:59,239
and she's so appalled by that. And I love the

1481
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,840
scene when they argue and he says like, yeah, I'm sorry,

1482
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,199
this is what's wrong with me, and it bugs you,

1483
01:08:04,239 --> 01:08:06,079
but this is what's gonna happen, and that kind of

1484
01:08:06,079 --> 01:08:09,079
transitions into the scene that he has alone with Franklin,

1485
01:08:09,119 --> 01:08:11,079
which he's like, I'm gonna stop using the machinery and

1486
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,239
good speech, like all that stuff back together with the

1487
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,600
tension with the baby and Franklin trying to connect, which

1488
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,760
he has a hard time because he's just so focused

1489
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:23,520
on plans and everything, like the way Tony Stark is

1490
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,159
an age of Ultron and Civil War where he's always

1491
01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:28,680
like suit around the armor. That's like after some shit

1492
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,760
has happened to him. Read is that way like every

1493
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,039
day every day he wakes up and is worried that

1494
01:08:34,199 --> 01:08:36,119
something is gonna happen. So I thought they did a

1495
01:08:36,119 --> 01:08:38,600
good job of the stakes and showing that, yeah, these

1496
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,560
two love each other, but man, sometimes they do not

1497
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,319
compute with one another. And I thought that argument scene

1498
01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:46,199
was a tip top no notes.

1499
01:08:46,279 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 2: So when you say suit around the armor, I imagine around

1500
01:08:52,239 --> 01:08:57,520
around Yeah, uh no, I I thought, yeah, a good

1501
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,479
shout out on the specifically that moment when they're because

1502
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,279
even she shows that it's like when you're yourself sometimes

1503
01:09:04,319 --> 01:09:07,239
like I just can't handle that or whatever whatever the

1504
01:09:07,279 --> 01:09:11,199
line Vanessa Kirby hits back to to Pager there, it's

1505
01:09:11,319 --> 01:09:13,640
obviously there's a motion in her eyes. It's just such

1506
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:17,199
a thing you would hope to never even have to contemplate.

1507
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,920
I thought that was just a great like like cog

1508
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,479
in the machines for the plot. Honestly, if just Galactus

1509
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,680
wants the child, it's like and like in that moment,

1510
01:09:27,039 --> 01:09:30,319
it's like, well, obviously like everyone on Earth would be like,

1511
01:09:30,359 --> 01:09:33,159
hey give up the child, like like yeah, the whole

1512
01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:35,640
planet for one one baby, you know, Like.

1513
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,159
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think that press conference, we're just like, yeah,

1514
01:09:38,159 --> 01:09:38,840
we couldn't come.

1515
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 2: To fucking move. And like I guess that leans into

1516
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,960
them just being like the Captain America, goody goody. It's like, well,

1517
01:09:46,039 --> 01:09:48,159
probably shouldn't tell them this, but we're gonna because that's

1518
01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:48,720
just who we are.

1519
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: And they didn't say they had nothing prepared, right, So

1520
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,920
I think they're just like shell shock and they're just

1521
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,399
so used to these people hear worshiping, like, oh, they're

1522
01:09:55,399 --> 01:09:58,359
gonna understand, and then right away they they turn on them,

1523
01:09:58,399 --> 01:10:01,239
just like the whole JORL Superman thing of like fox Man,

1524
01:10:01,319 --> 01:10:03,800
fuck fantastic for we hate these people now, you know,

1525
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,680
even though they've saved their lives countless of times. You know,

1526
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,279
I'm sure you would be dead.

1527
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 2: I had some grievances, like on that same vein when

1528
01:10:14,399 --> 01:10:16,880
and it also is just you know, I think like

1529
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,880
the editing and the pacing is phenmal all out or

1530
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,960
all throughout. But the moment when Sue goes out to

1531
01:10:24,119 --> 01:10:26,920
just like face the mobs with Franklin, at first I

1532
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:28,600
thought she was like invisible because I'm like, there's no

1533
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,760
way she's just walking out there, like right there, you know,

1534
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,880
in the middle of these mobs. They want this child

1535
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,359
she's just gonna be holding. You know, she's superpower, she

1536
01:10:36,359 --> 01:10:38,880
can defend herself in that child. But still it just

1537
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,920
felt strange to me. And then she's giving this like

1538
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,880
again very like Captain America, like don't worry, like we'll

1539
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,159
figure this out together as a family, And I'm like

1540
01:10:48,199 --> 01:10:50,319
this is so corny, like like in a real world,

1541
01:10:50,359 --> 01:10:53,119
there's no way they are not just fucking doing everything

1542
01:10:53,159 --> 01:10:55,119
they can, like all the nations of the world to

1543
01:10:55,279 --> 01:10:57,640
just take this child and give it to Galactus. They

1544
01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,600
don't have, you know, transport to get to Galactus. I

1545
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,720
don't know how I would work in that vein, but

1546
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:03,840
god damn it. By the end of her speech, I

1547
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,520
was like, I was like almost tearing up. I'm like, man,

1548
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:10,720
like this is actually amazing right now, and like it Yeah,

1549
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:12,359
I was just so impressed with that scene because in

1550
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,159
the beginning, like this is so corny and cheesy and unbelievable,

1551
01:11:15,359 --> 01:11:17,399
but then by the end, I'm like, I guess this

1552
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,640
just fits also with like the world that we're in

1553
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:21,880
an eight four eight, Like this is the state of

1554
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,800
the world that like Fantastic four are our global heroes

1555
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,119
and we like we love them so much, and it

1556
01:11:27,199 --> 01:11:31,560
fits the you know, retro futuristic Jetson's feel of just

1557
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,960
the world overall. Like it just I don't know, there's

1558
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,000
just something about like the whole family feel of what

1559
01:11:38,119 --> 01:11:40,600
this universe has. And yeah, by the by the end

1560
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,319
of her speech, like you see the crowd like they're

1561
01:11:43,359 --> 01:11:45,399
all like tearing up. It's just a great line too,

1562
01:11:45,399 --> 01:11:47,720
And it's like I'm not giving up my child to

1563
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,680
save the planet. But I'm not you know, I'm not

1564
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,239
giving up the world to save my child either, Like

1565
01:11:53,239 --> 01:11:55,760
like they are gonna do everything they can. Just a

1566
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,840
really really well done scene and one of those where

1567
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:00,399
I'm like they had me in the first staff, but

1568
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:02,800
god damn by the end I was I was totally

1569
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:04,560
in on it. So you get us to them for

1570
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:05,000
that one.

1571
01:12:05,279 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 1: No, that's good because yeah, I really like that scene

1572
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:08,359
too because I was like, Okay, how's this gonna play?

1573
01:12:08,399 --> 01:12:10,279
But I kind of like, because the whole thing, we

1574
01:12:10,359 --> 01:12:13,600
are a whole family, it could play cheesy, but I

1575
01:12:14,399 --> 01:12:17,279
like that she's kind of insinuating that, hey, if Galactus

1576
01:12:17,319 --> 01:12:20,199
came down and just said, hey Bill, we give us

1577
01:12:20,199 --> 01:12:22,640
Bill or the planet kills She's kind of saying like,

1578
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,039
we would not give up Bill, Like we wouldn't give

1579
01:12:25,119 --> 01:12:26,880
up our son. We wouldn't give Bill. So it is

1580
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,720
like we're in this together. We're either feeling this out

1581
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,199
together or we're going down. And that was a great

1582
01:12:32,239 --> 01:12:34,439
speech and you know, having the family react and that

1583
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,800
gets the idea of moving you know, Earth and time

1584
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:38,600
and all that stuff. But no, I think that's just

1585
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:42,560
like again, that's why it's like it's I talked about

1586
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:45,399
many times, that's just fucking Vanessa Kirby as well. I

1587
01:12:45,399 --> 01:12:47,800
think it's written good, but you could put a lesser

1588
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,560
actress there and it could be completely cheesy or it

1589
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,439
could not work. But but by the end you're like, yeah,

1590
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,960
so you storem, let's do this, and yeah, she's just

1591
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:56,560
like I said, she's to be get in the top

1592
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,560
ten currently. She's just she's so good at a variety

1593
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,600
of things. The first time I saw her wasn't about

1594
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:04,000
time where she plays a very like she plays like

1595
01:13:04,039 --> 01:13:06,560
the annoying best friend, where she's just like obnoxious and

1596
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,720
comedic and some like you watch that role and watch

1597
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,000
that now it would be not you wouldn't watch all

1598
01:13:12,039 --> 01:13:14,640
that soue storm right there. But no, she does such

1599
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,359
a good job. And even her accent too, like it wasn't.

1600
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 2: I was thrown off initially it was so.

1601
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,119
Speaker 1: Weird, but like it was. Her accent wasn't slipping into

1602
01:13:22,159 --> 01:13:25,159
the the British, which I thought sometimes can happen, right,

1603
01:13:25,199 --> 01:13:27,159
but no, it was. Uh, it was strange to hear

1604
01:13:27,159 --> 01:13:28,520
a whole movie with that.

1605
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,560
Speaker 2: But no, I thought that the first time she spoke

1606
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:33,960
was the first time where I was like, oh, this

1607
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,359
is strange and yeah, like it wasn't bad, it was

1608
01:13:36,399 --> 01:13:39,199
just it was just different. And uh I don't yeah,

1609
01:13:39,359 --> 01:13:44,520
I can't remember if it was Mission Impossible or The

1610
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:48,319
Crown was like my first exposure to Vanessa Kirby. She's

1611
01:13:48,359 --> 01:13:51,439
fantastic in her like like she's only because The Crown,

1612
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,880
you know, different actors, different periods of their lives, but

1613
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,479
like the parts that she's in is just phenomenal, Like

1614
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:02,279
she is just such a standout and obviously very British accent. There,

1615
01:14:03,119 --> 01:14:06,039
same thing when she's the White Widow, but uh yeah,

1616
01:14:06,079 --> 01:14:08,560
opened up with an American accent. I'm like, I think

1617
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,760
we could have done Sue British in this version of

1618
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,840
the Yeah you could.

1619
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 1: And because like Joseph quin No, he's British too, isn't

1620
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,119
it is Joseph Quinn, I think so right, I'm pretty

1621
01:14:20,119 --> 01:14:23,199
sure he is. Yeah, so he literally could. Just like there,

1622
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,439
it's the same thing I've always said, like they never

1623
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,720
needed ben in a cumber Batch to put on that

1624
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,359
weird American accent, you know, like Christian and all, like

1625
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,439
just have them sound like been a cumber Batch, Like

1626
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:36,560
there's no reason Hey, I did my practice him or what?

1627
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:38,960
Like I became a doctor in England and I moved

1628
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,159
over here, like there's no reason why, like doctor Strange

1629
01:14:42,199 --> 01:14:44,239
couldn't have been from Britain and then he moved over

1630
01:14:44,279 --> 01:14:46,359
like why does he have to be American? So I agree,

1631
01:14:46,399 --> 01:14:48,319
Like he didn't bug me as much as you, but

1632
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,359
I agree that you could have just said, yeah, it's

1633
01:14:50,359 --> 01:14:52,760
just being I'm British. They're both British. Go ahead, sure,

1634
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,279
especially because Gerba has a great voice. But no, I

1635
01:14:55,319 --> 01:14:56,720
thought she may have worked there, but.

1636
01:14:58,039 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 2: He is British, so yeah, there, I would have worked

1637
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:04,800
the siblings the Storms are from Great Britain.

1638
01:15:05,119 --> 01:15:07,399
Speaker 4: What two projects Kirklan, did you say again that you

1639
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:09,359
saw Penicacribbean.

1640
01:15:09,199 --> 01:15:11,520
Speaker 2: The Crown and Mission Impossible?

1641
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:12,279
Speaker 3: Mission Impossible?

1642
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:17,119
Speaker 2: You can't remember where one? I saw first? She's She's

1643
01:15:17,199 --> 01:15:24,359
on the Calico Tatum one. Yeah, meant that movie in

1644
01:15:24,399 --> 01:15:26,319
Target days right, they.

1645
01:15:26,239 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: Did a movie night and I was like, no, I'm

1646
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:29,960
not going to that. Did you go to the movie, Taylor?

1647
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:34,079
Speaker 3: I did not go to that? Oh I yeah I did.

1648
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:35,119
Speaker 1: I did.

1649
01:15:35,399 --> 01:15:37,520
Speaker 4: I remember being in line. I think Jessica was there.

1650
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,880
Who else was there? But it's just been me and

1651
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:41,159
Jessica actually.

1652
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:47,680
Speaker 1: A review, what was I gonna say? Yeah, because she

1653
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:49,880
that and the only other thing too, you would know

1654
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,279
from you were walking away when I was talking about it.

1655
01:15:52,279 --> 01:15:55,399
But she's in Hobbs and Shaws, right, she's Stathan's sister.

1656
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,560
And then do you remember that she's in About Time.

1657
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:02,199
Speaker 3: I in in retrospect.

1658
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, she's Rachel mcadam's like annoying friend who just

1659
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,800
like hates everybody. Yeah, it's so funny to look from

1660
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,199
her there to now, which is so funny because Margot

1661
01:16:10,279 --> 01:16:12,680
Robbie's also in that movie in a small role, and

1662
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:14,159
that's one of the people that was also up for

1663
01:16:14,239 --> 01:16:16,199
Sue Storm like this go around, right, So it's kind

1664
01:16:16,239 --> 01:16:19,279
of funny. In that movie, she's the one that Donald

1665
01:16:19,359 --> 01:16:23,359
Leeson has the she's the family, the sister's friend, like

1666
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,479
some emotion on me, and then when he's with Rachel

1667
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,760
McAdams minus, well, that's when she finally like makes the

1668
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,239
move on. So yeah, it's again very much. I think

1669
01:16:31,239 --> 01:16:35,079
it's either right before or right after all Full Wall

1670
01:16:35,119 --> 01:16:37,039
Street Like, it's I think it's very I think it's

1671
01:16:37,119 --> 01:16:39,439
right before and then she blows up. But that's why

1672
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:42,159
it's just like this minor role Margot Robbie, Yeah, stack

1673
01:16:42,239 --> 01:16:44,600
cast for about time. We're get Domald Glease in the

1674
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:47,199
MCU already, you know, let's we got you know, like

1675
01:16:47,279 --> 01:16:49,680
I guess you can get Margaret at some point.

1676
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 2: It's the Disney Family Star Wars.

1677
01:16:52,279 --> 01:16:54,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, Hucks is lonkne Let's get them,

1678
01:16:55,039 --> 01:16:57,119
Let's get them. I don't know somewhere I know.

1679
01:16:57,159 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 2: I'm just saying he's gotten in with Disney.

1680
01:16:59,039 --> 01:17:01,319
Speaker 3: Should cross over to ye Madison.

1681
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 4: I just watched Me Before You, and that's another Vanessa Kirby.

1682
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:06,279
She's in there, not in the main role, but she

1683
01:17:06,399 --> 01:17:07,239
just pops in there.

1684
01:17:08,079 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 3: What was Me before You? That's the Amelia Clark one.

1685
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 1: All right, one where he see he is the he's

1686
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:16,439
in the wheel chair.

1687
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 4: Accident in the wheelchair and Nevill Long bottoms in there.

1688
01:17:19,039 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 1: Would you say I think said the accent. I'm like, no,

1689
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:26,800
that's just how he speaks. There's nothing to do with like, yeah,

1690
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,840
like he had an accent and he's an accent. Yeah. No,

1691
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,479
would date this hall looking guy with his accent? Fuck

1692
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,520
oh man? But uh yeah no. I I hope that

1693
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,560
she becomes We talked about this before. We just did

1694
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:43,239
a newscast about this last week. For Phase seven or

1695
01:17:43,279 --> 01:17:45,680
the new era, whatever happens after Secret Wars, they need

1696
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:47,760
to sit down and they need to decide who's their

1697
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,800
core four. I'd be completely fun if Vanessa Kirby is

1698
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,600
one of those cool core four, Like I think it'd

1699
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,119
be Spider Man, one, the X Men her, and then

1700
01:17:55,159 --> 01:17:56,640
have your pick on the next one. Maybe it's a

1701
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:58,800
song she, maybe it's something, but like, you should have

1702
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,199
these main characters. And again, this is something that I

1703
01:18:01,279 --> 01:18:04,079
was wrong about. I said this in Predictions. I got

1704
01:18:04,119 --> 01:18:06,479
spoiled on it because with the interview I didn't put

1705
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:08,560
in the newscast. But he's like, yeah, it's great to

1706
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,199
see the Avengers on the F four set. It's like, oh, thanks, buddy.

1707
01:18:11,239 --> 01:18:13,359
Now I fucking know the world doesn't get destroyed because

1708
01:18:13,359 --> 01:18:15,600
I thought they were gonna destroy I thought it's gonna

1709
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,560
get destroyed and that's a way to put over some

1710
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,920
sort of threat and that's why they're here. They didn't,

1711
01:18:20,039 --> 01:18:23,359
and I'm so happy. I don't know how it's gonna work, Like,

1712
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:25,119
how do you think that's gonna work? When Vice is

1713
01:18:25,119 --> 01:18:27,000
gonna be a reset and one singular timeline? Because I

1714
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,760
would be completely fine if the F four was always

1715
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,680
in this universe. But for the crossovers, they do the

1716
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,800
egg thing, right, we're like, okay, we're gonna come over.

1717
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,159
Like in the CW they did that all the time

1718
01:18:38,199 --> 01:18:40,279
where these heroes were on different worlds, but they create

1719
01:18:40,359 --> 01:18:43,199
some sort of watch and it was like a teleportation thing, right, Like,

1720
01:18:43,279 --> 01:18:46,399
I I really don't wanna lose this, look at I

1721
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,359
would be completely bummed if like Fantastic four two is

1722
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:51,760
just like in our New York and it's like and

1723
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,960
they're like, well, we'll build it the way it was like, no,

1724
01:18:54,039 --> 01:18:56,680
like you brought up like those cops cars going by

1725
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,119
that were like floating and everything that, Like I want

1726
01:18:59,119 --> 01:19:01,399
to keep it anything. If they're like what do you

1727
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:04,079
want to pick like our New York or like four,

1728
01:19:04,079 --> 01:19:05,640
it's like, well, if we're gonna do one timeline, like

1729
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,279
let's get everyone over to the F four universe, you know,

1730
01:19:08,319 --> 01:19:10,560
like let's do that. So that's my only concern about

1731
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:12,960
that whole, Like we're gonna make a singular time sign

1732
01:19:13,079 --> 01:19:15,279
and the end of the multiverse soga, Like does that

1733
01:19:15,359 --> 01:19:17,920
mean when the F four traveled to here in doomsday,

1734
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,479
they're gonna get stuck here, and it's like, oh, I

1735
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,199
really don't, like I feel like you're just gonna just

1736
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,640
like wrench out all the character of the world, which

1737
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,560
was great. So that concerns me a bit. But I'm

1738
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:31,680
hoping because they didn't destroy because if that's the case,

1739
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:33,640
then they should just destroy this planet. They should just

1740
01:19:34,039 --> 01:19:36,600
done and moved on. But the fact that it's alive,

1741
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,239
I hope it means when we get F four two,

1742
01:19:38,279 --> 01:19:40,279
if that happens, we can come back here.

1743
01:19:40,359 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, I doubt well this will be like a mainstay,

1744
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,680
just because it's a very expensive world to visit because

1745
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:49,960
it's mostly CGI right, like especially when you get the

1746
01:19:50,039 --> 01:19:54,199
flying cars. But I'm with you, I I'm I'm happy

1747
01:19:54,239 --> 01:19:56,760
that it is still kicking. I honestly thought it was

1748
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,600
gonna like Galactus was gonna come devour this world and

1749
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,560
then they have to flee and that's why you know

1750
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:05,239
they're uh in Avengers. Like I thought that was going

1751
01:20:05,279 --> 01:20:08,359
to be the setup and glaught. I was wrong. And hopefully,

1752
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:10,640
you know, this allows us to potentially come back here

1753
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,680
because there's just so much fun stuff and for them

1754
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:17,159
like not like this is a tour of our universe,

1755
01:20:17,279 --> 01:20:18,920
you know, like they didn't really do that, but like

1756
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,560
they still just have so much great world building. Like

1757
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,479
I feel like I did learn so much about this

1758
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,840
this world, this Earth eight four eight, and yeah, it

1759
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,800
was it was awesome, Taylor.

1760
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,359
Speaker 1: What any thing's happening with this world's gonna stand after

1761
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:36,119
Secret Wars? Is it gone? Is this gonna be the

1762
01:20:36,119 --> 01:20:37,880
world that's gonna be the singular timeline? Like? What do

1763
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:38,880
you think is gonna happen with this?

1764
01:20:41,399 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 4: You know, part of me started to get convinced that

1765
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,720
this world was going to get destroyed. I was under

1766
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,159
the impression that, okay, like they're going to come to

1767
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,279
six one six when they're gonna bring their kid, They're

1768
01:20:52,279 --> 01:20:54,840
gonna flee, and Glackness is gonna follow them and ignore

1769
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,319
Earth because they have something that he wants more than

1770
01:20:57,319 --> 01:20:58,640
that obviously with Franklin.

1771
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,239
Speaker 3: But uh no, not the case.

1772
01:21:01,279 --> 01:21:07,079
Speaker 4: They know they saved the world. And yeah, like the

1773
01:21:07,119 --> 01:21:11,079
way that they set up the ending, I almost I

1774
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,640
feel like, how do you you just jump to Avengers

1775
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:15,680
and then give us a little bit of like a

1776
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:17,640
flashback sequence or explain what happened?

1777
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,359
Speaker 3: I guess so, I mean, I'm we were talking about

1778
01:21:20,399 --> 01:21:21,159
this when we left the theater.

1779
01:21:21,239 --> 01:21:24,640
Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out where in the narrative the

1780
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:29,239
end credits for Thunderbolts kind of splices over into following here,

1781
01:21:29,279 --> 01:21:32,720
And you proposed a pretty interesting theory. But again, if

1782
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:36,439
that's the case what you proposed, then the Earth is

1783
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:42,520
fine in the Fantastic Force for now multiverse, like because

1784
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,439
Secret Wars is all about multiverses collapsing, so it's like,

1785
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:47,039
it's fine for now, But if.

1786
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,199
Speaker 1: Doom's there to fuck it up, like, or what if

1787
01:21:49,199 --> 01:21:50,680
they do that? What if they go, hey, we didn't

1788
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,199
want Galactus to be able to destroy it. And the

1789
01:21:53,239 --> 01:21:56,840
way that Thans just destroyed Zander off screen and got

1790
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,640
the power Stone, what if they do that where doctor

1791
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:03,600
doomed Troy is the it again they ate the fuck

1792
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,920
you forgetting this four eight the eight four eight, Like

1793
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:07,680
what if what if they let Doom do that?

1794
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 2: Right?

1795
01:22:08,039 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 1: And there is precedent right, like if you look at

1796
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:13,359
Captain but that does make them strong, right, it's gonna

1797
01:22:13,359 --> 01:22:15,279
put them over and be like, oh, look at Doom,

1798
01:22:15,319 --> 01:22:18,880
he did that, and I would suit their track record

1799
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:21,520
of look at Captain America. If you're not a fan

1800
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:25,359
of the Captain America comic book, you watch a movie

1801
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:27,159
that is a World War two movie, and then when

1802
01:22:27,159 --> 01:22:29,840
they make the sequel, Captain America is in present day.

1803
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:31,640
I've always said this, I would love to watch someone

1804
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,319
that's never really knew much about Captain America and when

1805
01:22:34,399 --> 01:22:36,359
he was like frozen and then woke up and present

1806
01:22:36,399 --> 01:22:38,319
day be like what the fuck is this movie? Like

1807
01:22:38,319 --> 01:22:40,319
why is he waking up here? So it's like we've

1808
01:22:40,359 --> 01:22:42,359
seen that, Preston. Don't get me wrong, I don't like

1809
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:44,680
the Captain America first Avenger World as much as this

1810
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,239
four World, but we've seen them do that in movies

1811
01:22:47,239 --> 01:22:50,359
where this could be that, and then the sequels them

1812
01:22:50,399 --> 01:22:52,800
fish out of water in our universe where we don't

1813
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:54,279
have a cool New York, we don't have these cool

1814
01:22:54,279 --> 01:22:56,720
space cops and all those things. And maybe that's how

1815
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:58,960
they I guess they could make the f W popular

1816
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,800
in our world. Is there so smart that they can

1817
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:04,640
start giving us this technology? But I think there's a

1818
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:08,520
chance they let Doom destroy their world just to say, like, oh,

1819
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,600
Doom's that badass. He killed everyone in our universe, you know,

1820
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:13,800
instead of Galactus, who the Galactus was never gonna be

1821
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:15,159
in Secret Wars, right, So.

1822
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 2: True?

1823
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:22,520
Speaker 1: I guess we can get when we are we talking

1824
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:26,319
about that in krit now and were wenlcome back to well, uh, I.

1825
01:23:26,319 --> 01:23:31,119
Speaker 2: Liked I really liked Herbie in this didn't get like

1826
01:23:31,159 --> 01:23:34,600
a definite end right, like do we see what happened

1827
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:39,239
when Galactus grabs Franklin? Like Herbie's there, but he wasn't

1828
01:23:39,279 --> 01:23:42,560
like crushed in his palm or anything. I'm hoping he lived.

1829
01:23:43,199 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 1: Was he there during the talk show?

1830
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 2: I no thinks so, so RP Herbie potentially hopefully not.

1831
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:54,039
You had a lot of heart in the same way

1832
01:23:54,079 --> 01:23:56,720
that like R two or BBA would have in the

1833
01:23:56,720 --> 01:24:00,199
Star Wars universe, Like it was that same energy were

1834
01:24:00,199 --> 01:24:05,039
around Herbie worked for me. Also, there's great reactions. I

1835
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,319
did like the moment. Is it a two eight?

1836
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 1: See? I said that at the beginning and Kirkland said,

1837
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,119
you fucking idiot, it's eight four eight or whatever. But

1838
01:24:13,199 --> 01:24:14,960
I think it's a two eight. I think it's there.

1839
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,439
William just got back. Loved the movie. I'm glad because

1840
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,560
you were looking very forward to that movie or this movie.

1841
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:22,640
So that's good. So oh they're going TC twin four

1842
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,840
says he was in the postcard scenes. That's good. And yeah,

1843
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:29,079
it's very fun, like remind her that the yeah her

1844
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:34,399
turn her down your TV. Robert Downey's in our chat.

1845
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:39,279
Holy shit, yeah he does turn the TV off. But yeah,

1846
01:24:39,279 --> 01:24:41,920
it gave me a lot of like BB eight vibes

1847
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,239
and Force Awakens. I thought Force Wakens was the perfect

1848
01:24:44,319 --> 01:24:46,359
use of BB eight And that's what this reminds me of,

1849
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:49,319
where it's a lovable Roadbot never got too annoying, and

1850
01:24:49,359 --> 01:24:52,239
that's what I like. Like there was like too much

1851
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:55,159
annoying humor in the way of the sense of like

1852
01:24:55,239 --> 01:24:58,840
I like that Johnny and Ben had a fun back

1853
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,039
and forth, but it never I felt like they hated

1854
01:25:01,119 --> 01:25:03,199
each other, which sometimes the old that for movie's gone

1855
01:25:03,199 --> 01:25:05,760
on that right, it gone to that, like Johnny was

1856
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,520
just fucking mean to Ben. Like Ben's like going through

1857
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:10,840
a trump especially in those movies when you know his

1858
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:12,520
wife's leaving was ring in the middle of the street

1859
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,560
and you'll just be like, hey, it sucks to be you,

1860
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,039
don't you fucking suck? Ben? Where this Like he never

1861
01:25:17,039 --> 01:25:18,800
made a joke about how I looked. He's like, hey,

1862
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,359
look good at the beard. The jokes were always but

1863
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:23,319
other stuff. So yeah, I like that with Herbie, with

1864
01:25:23,399 --> 01:25:26,720
Ben with Johnny. There wasn't anything like mean spirited humor wise,

1865
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:28,439
I'm not saying like it would have hurt my feelings.

1866
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,159
I just mean that I enjoyed. I think when they're

1867
01:25:31,159 --> 01:25:33,840
trying to stress that they are a family, you have

1868
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,159
to have that dynamic that Johnny and Ben actually like

1869
01:25:36,199 --> 01:25:38,439
each other, or they easily could have done the whole

1870
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,960
Herbie's a shitty robot, which they did, which I'm fine.

1871
01:25:42,119 --> 01:25:44,159
They did that Iron Man right, the first Iron Man.

1872
01:25:44,359 --> 01:25:46,439
He has those robots like, hey, don't fucking spraden me

1873
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,359
Like that worked for there because Tony Stark is a

1874
01:25:49,359 --> 01:25:51,800
bit more you know, grabby and bit more of an

1875
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:54,279
asshole were here. I like that Herbie was a part

1876
01:25:54,279 --> 01:25:56,039
of the team. I could look at Herbie and be like,

1877
01:25:56,199 --> 01:25:59,840
I understand why they trust Herbie with Franklin, where like

1878
01:26:00,239 --> 01:26:02,880
man like, is he gonna trust these robots with like

1879
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,199
his daughter at that point? Probably not because they're a

1880
01:26:05,239 --> 01:26:07,800
little iffy. But yeah, Herbie was a character that could

1881
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:10,119
easily be a negative in this movie, and they could

1882
01:26:10,119 --> 01:26:12,840
have given too much to but it was a positive

1883
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:14,199
and made it work well.

1884
01:26:14,279 --> 01:26:18,199
Speaker 6: So so it is a to eight so good shot

1885
01:26:18,239 --> 01:26:21,520
out TC twenty four the reason being is because it's

1886
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:25,119
a nod to the late Coke character Jack Kirby's birthday,

1887
01:26:25,119 --> 01:26:28,039
which was August twenty eight, which.

1888
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 1: Just movies dripping in. They oh, is it eight to eight,

1889
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,359
the same as Logan's birthday? They're cool, but yeah, this

1890
01:26:33,399 --> 01:26:35,359
movie's dripping in. At the end credit has like a

1891
01:26:35,399 --> 01:26:37,319
tribute to him with the quote and everything like that.

1892
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:39,680
So yeah, I think if you like those comps like

1893
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:42,640
Jack Kirby, with the style of how it is, like

1894
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:45,560
the story and just the style of the sixties, it's uh.

1895
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:47,159
I guess I should have said that in the Non

1896
01:26:47,199 --> 01:26:50,479
Sports but they they they nailed that aspect of it.

1897
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,319
But yeah, that's fun and it's cool. Yeah, And I'm

1898
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,279
I'm not like everyone else that I I don't know,

1899
01:26:56,399 --> 01:26:59,079
love to recover on Secret Wars. I'm not a poe.

1900
01:26:59,239 --> 01:27:02,000
I don't need all universesy get closed. I get why

1901
01:27:02,079 --> 01:27:04,119
FI he's doing it because they want to streamline it,

1902
01:27:04,159 --> 01:27:06,600
but uh yeah, no, I just feel like you could

1903
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:08,159
lose some stuff and I don't want to lose all

1904
01:27:08,159 --> 01:27:10,960
these things. But you know, maybe we'll get to see herbian.

1905
01:27:11,279 --> 01:27:16,039
We should see him in uh yeah, Doomsday. Imagine he'll

1906
01:27:16,079 --> 01:27:19,920
like interact with fucking Red Guardian or something you know,

1907
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:21,880
or Bob.

1908
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 2: Herbie, so you don't yeah, yeah.

1909
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 1: You anything's on Herbie if not take us somewhere.

1910
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I thought it was really cute how to

1911
01:27:31,039 --> 01:27:33,640
change his personality and what he can kind of work with.

1912
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:36,560
They just pop his visor off and like switch tape decks.

1913
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:41,479
Like yeah, that was really really really fun retro kind

1914
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:42,119
of vibe there.

1915
01:27:42,199 --> 01:27:43,279
Speaker 3: So I think he was cool.

1916
01:27:43,319 --> 01:27:46,640
Speaker 4: I liked his his communication everything and and whatnot.

1917
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 3: He's just a fun, little little side character.

1918
01:27:49,039 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I'll bring up here because just I don't

1919
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,600
forget it. People had said this before, and this joke

1920
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:56,399
has always been made that The Incredibles is the best

1921
01:27:56,399 --> 01:27:58,960
fantastic for a movie. No I canna lie. After this movie,

1922
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,000
I was like, man, I do want to watch Incredibles.

1923
01:28:01,039 --> 01:28:03,720
That had a lot of those vibes, especially the opening. Yeah,

1924
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,600
the mole Man under mind. Yeah, it's literally that is

1925
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:09,840
the Syndrome's doctor Doom in a sense right, Like he's

1926
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:12,920
a tech based gadget villain. Obviously, Doom in the comsol

1927
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:14,840
sence does have magic, so that's a bit different. But

1928
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:19,399
there's times where Doom is that which I fucking absolutely love.

1929
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,399
Begin the movie, they're having their un meetings showing all

1930
01:28:22,399 --> 01:28:26,920
the countries Latveria empty chair, so it's like either that's

1931
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:29,439
nothing and just in this universe they're just like off

1932
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,199
their own because that's gonna be the thing, right of

1933
01:28:31,279 --> 01:28:35,159
like where is because even though he's a totally Stark variant,

1934
01:28:35,199 --> 01:28:38,039
maybe or whatever, the situation looks like downy is he

1935
01:28:38,199 --> 01:28:44,279
gonna like I'm assuming he's gonna be from eight to eight.

1936
01:28:44,319 --> 01:28:47,199
In my opinion, with them deliberately leaving the chair out,

1937
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:49,880
I don't think they're gonna go with the he has

1938
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:52,239
a pass with Victor and they have a relationship. I

1939
01:28:52,279 --> 01:28:54,880
think they might skip that or maybe they know of

1940
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:57,640
each other, but I think with them leaving that chair

1941
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:01,119
out purposely, you know, it's tough because the director did

1942
01:29:01,119 --> 01:29:03,439
say that, the Russo's director that scene saying like I

1943
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:05,399
don't know what they're doing, like they put that in there,

1944
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:08,159
not me. So maybe it was just Shackman and being like, oh,

1945
01:29:08,159 --> 01:29:10,520
I'll cover doing the sequel, and then it was like, well,

1946
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:13,399
you know, John, the Major's has a situation and we're

1947
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:17,000
gonna put it in Doctor Doom now, and that's like, okay, cool,

1948
01:29:17,039 --> 01:29:18,520
I guess I don't get to do them for the sequel,

1949
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:20,800
but I love that little touch. But I love the

1950
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:24,399
entire montage opening of showing them fight all the different villains. Yeah,

1951
01:29:24,399 --> 01:29:26,640
the molment and uh yeah, it was great stuff. But

1952
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:29,319
taya do you kick at a moment? Because that's that's

1953
01:29:29,359 --> 01:29:30,920
your name there. They had to go to it because

1954
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,039
they were gonna evacuate a ready. They were worried about, Hey,

1955
01:29:33,079 --> 01:29:35,640
what's gonna happen when Glacks gets here. He's gonna kill

1956
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:38,279
thousands of people. Well, we know somebody that has a

1957
01:29:38,319 --> 01:29:39,920
spot underground that could help us out.

1958
01:29:41,159 --> 01:29:44,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, just the quick fire introduction of all the different

1959
01:29:44,159 --> 01:29:46,199
villains and whatnot. I appreciate that.

1960
01:29:46,199 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 3: That was fun.

1961
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 4: I'm trying to the moment trying to steal this new

1962
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:51,239
hotel building thing.

1963
01:29:51,359 --> 01:29:53,119
Speaker 3: That was just wild.

1964
01:29:53,199 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, there's just this whole colony of people that

1965
01:29:55,079 --> 01:30:02,000
live underground. Definitely felt like incredible to that degree, but it.

1966
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:03,640
Speaker 3: Was, Yeah, it was fun.

1967
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:06,319
Speaker 4: He made me laugh when he popped in there and

1968
01:30:06,359 --> 01:30:08,640
they were gonna ask him if they could put people

1969
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:10,640
down below, and he just is.

1970
01:30:12,079 --> 01:30:13,159
Speaker 3: Being a jerk about it.

1971
01:30:13,199 --> 01:30:15,239
Speaker 4: But then when it's just him and Sue, he's just up.

1972
01:30:15,279 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 3: He's like one on one okay, like what do you want?

1973
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:18,760
What do you need? What can I what can I do?

1974
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:21,560
Speaker 2: I was worried they were gonna like hint that they

1975
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:23,479
had had like a fling or something like an old

1976
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:26,000
flame when I'm like, please don't do this, or he was.

1977
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:29,199
Speaker 1: Gonna be trying to like like, oh you know you

1978
01:30:29,319 --> 01:30:31,159
picked read before me. But we had something like that

1979
01:30:31,239 --> 01:30:33,119
kind of humor where it's like he thinks there's something

1980
01:30:33,159 --> 01:30:34,800
going on, but there's not. I was glad it was

1981
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:37,520
just like a mutual respect thing, and I think that's

1982
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:39,560
not this is a negative. That's the only time in

1983
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,119
the movie felt the most like a six one six

1984
01:30:42,239 --> 01:30:43,960
m Sue was that back and forth with him and

1985
01:30:44,039 --> 01:30:45,960
Reid and him and Johnny of like, oh I don't

1986
01:30:46,039 --> 01:30:48,279
dress to Johnny Like that's the most where it's like

1987
01:30:48,319 --> 01:30:52,840
it's equip almost every ten seconds from some character. And

1988
01:30:53,039 --> 01:30:56,079
that's fine. I would like to see more moment again.

1989
01:30:56,199 --> 01:30:58,640
Don't know what's gonna happen with this universe stuff, but uh,

1990
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:00,560
Paul Walter Houser was a great act and I thought

1991
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:02,359
that was fun. Could he again same thing? Could have

1992
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:04,560
used even a little bit more of that like just

1993
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:06,920
a mission or something like that. Like, uh, but you know,

1994
01:31:07,079 --> 01:31:10,039
it's fine, didn't have the moment. Yeah, like I could

1995
01:31:10,039 --> 01:31:11,880
have used the fact that it just like resolved it,

1996
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:13,560
like they beat him and it was like a newspaper.

1997
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:15,279
You know. It's like I would have liked a two

1998
01:31:15,279 --> 01:31:17,680
minute scene of them actually being the Moleman or whatever.

1999
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:20,479
You know. Like again, I would love it if there

2000
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:23,359
was like a two twenty two to thirty movie of this.

2001
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:25,039
I just want more of it.

2002
01:31:25,159 --> 01:31:28,520
Speaker 2: So for not getting another Silver Surface Glactos scene, I'm

2003
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:30,399
not replacing that with a Moleman scene.

2004
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:34,319
Speaker 1: No, of course I'm not so. In my addition, they

2005
01:31:34,359 --> 01:31:36,720
have multiple scenes of everybody, but you.

2006
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:38,680
Speaker 2: Know, that's twenty minutes more of the mole people.

2007
01:31:39,079 --> 01:31:41,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. Yeah, which same thing I brought I

2008
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:42,760
brought this up a little bit. I don't have much

2009
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:46,159
more to say, but uh yeah, the whole Ben storyline.

2010
01:31:46,199 --> 01:31:48,600
They they went over a little bit of the classic

2011
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:52,039
you know, having issues with his looks, but around the family,

2012
01:31:52,279 --> 01:31:54,840
he never brings that up. He doesn't seem too depressed.

2013
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:57,920
Around the family, just seems like he's depressed. Yeah, seems confident,

2014
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:01,560
but it just seems like he's depressed alone. They introduced

2015
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:05,680
Natation leone here for like two scenes, which was so odd.

2016
01:32:06,039 --> 01:32:07,039
They have them talking.

2017
01:32:07,279 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 2: I thought they call it Rachel Rachel.

2018
01:32:09,359 --> 01:32:13,319
Speaker 1: I'm trying to the actress's name, Nataka. Yeah, they all

2019
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:16,439
she's flinding herself. It's crazy. But there's this moment where

2020
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:18,600
I get what they're going for. But he's talking. The

2021
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:21,199
kids are watched. She's like to bring the cookies and

2022
01:32:21,199 --> 01:32:24,079
all the kids they're like, oh, it worked better when

2023
01:32:24,119 --> 01:32:26,000
she walked away, like I'll see around, they're like oh.

2024
01:32:26,039 --> 01:32:27,680
But like it felt like they had a line there

2025
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:30,680
that was like maybe more sexual, and they're like, eh,

2026
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:33,239
we can't have to thing say that. Yeah, yeah, I'll

2027
01:32:33,239 --> 01:32:36,840
back the show later. You heard a rock hard cock,

2028
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:39,720
Well you haven't yet, but like it was weird. It

2029
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:42,800
was just forested, like even everything too of like he

2030
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:44,720
shows up the church like, oh, you here for counseling. No,

2031
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:48,640
I just want to have you like like either going

2032
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:52,279
full Monty. Yeah, either going more and make that big

2033
01:32:52,359 --> 01:32:54,920
or just take it out. It didn't really get us anywhere.

2034
01:32:55,039 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 2: I felt like they cut some stuff out of that one, absolutely,

2035
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:01,239
like there was some stuff missing that they already Yeah,

2036
01:33:01,279 --> 01:33:02,239
I would agree with that.

2037
01:33:02,319 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we know they cut, like they cut John

2038
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,199
Melkridge from this movie, so we know they cut things

2039
01:33:06,279 --> 01:33:08,880
from this movie. This movie's an hour fifty five. There's

2040
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:12,000
no way they didn't. So and again maybe maybe there's

2041
01:33:12,199 --> 01:33:14,159
more scenes than these two and they just fucking sucked

2042
01:33:14,199 --> 01:33:15,760
and they're like, you know, this doesn't work at all.

2043
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:17,760
But then it's just like I would like to, you know,

2044
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:20,600
win the scriptwriting process of Okay, why like what does

2045
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:26,960
that character do for us here? Like it's phenominally yeah,

2046
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:29,600
because it's not like the first F four where like

2047
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:32,720
in five, where everyone loves the F four but everyone

2048
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:35,279
knows the thing, he's a fucking monster and he's gross.

2049
01:33:35,319 --> 01:33:38,199
You know, like there's eventually they like him. There's choices,

2050
01:33:38,199 --> 01:33:39,760
but I mean at first everyone scared him, right, but

2051
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:42,760
this is a world where the kids love him. He's

2052
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,319
shopping and be like, hey, Ben and I do the

2053
01:33:45,359 --> 01:33:47,600
thing like he's I'm not saying he doesn't have his issues,

2054
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:49,880
don't get me wrong, but people like him so like

2055
01:33:50,039 --> 01:33:52,640
usually like when they had Carrie Washington play like the

2056
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:56,359
blind character, that was like, oh, someone likes you for

2057
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:58,680
who you are even though you're this rock monster. Right,

2058
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:04,000
But it's just like what purpose does she serve here?

2059
01:34:04,039 --> 01:34:06,520
And I don't I don't have an answer. Maybe someone does.

2060
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:08,039
I just don't have an answer of like what did

2061
01:34:08,079 --> 01:34:11,680
that do for Ben in this movie?

2062
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 2: Fuck all is what it did. It's it's weird too

2063
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:19,000
because it's like a character that he can get close

2064
01:34:19,039 --> 01:34:21,159
with when other people see him as a monster, but

2065
01:34:21,199 --> 01:34:23,359
where he is in this story, he's not seen as

2066
01:34:23,359 --> 01:34:28,680
a monster. Yeah, Like there's like some real minor moments

2067
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:31,680
when he like looks at his reflection. It's kind of sad,

2068
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:33,439
Like I feel like there was like more of that

2069
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:35,560
in the trailer. There's like a shot of him like

2070
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:37,560
looking at the TV and then he sees himself and

2071
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:39,119
it's like, oh, I'm hideous.

2072
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 1: That was in this movie.

2073
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 2: I know, I know, but like it seemed like there's

2074
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:43,720
more emphasis on it in the in the trailer, so

2075
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:45,640
it's like, oh, yeah, they're really gonna be doubling down

2076
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:49,439
on Ben and his uh just just image issues, which

2077
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:51,600
I mean it's a very human thing, right, like people

2078
01:34:52,199 --> 01:34:55,720
body dysmorphia like all that stuff psychologically as.

2079
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 1: A regular person, not even a rock monster.

2080
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, exactly right, So like that there's some good

2081
01:35:00,119 --> 01:35:03,119
juice there but for this story, especially just for what

2082
01:35:03,119 --> 01:35:06,640
they were telling, it just it didn't really need to

2083
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:09,199
go there at all. And then as you already mentioned,

2084
01:35:09,239 --> 01:35:12,800
like introducing this this lady, it I don't know, like

2085
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:15,680
the scene with the kids was like kind of comedic

2086
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:18,800
when when they're when you up the car, but her.

2087
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:21,239
Speaker 1: The promise if you don't but if you don't go

2088
01:35:21,319 --> 01:35:23,039
there all that's the problem with this movie. It's like

2089
01:35:23,199 --> 01:35:25,479
I feel like like Ben do is like Ben's just

2090
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:27,399
kind of around. Like I'm not saying he's not fun

2091
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:29,479
and I don't enjoy the thing in this movie, but

2092
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:32,600
he's just Johnny has like a little mini redemption where

2093
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:34,119
he kind of shows like he can be a scientist

2094
01:35:34,159 --> 01:35:36,720
and help the team sue the leader. Reid kind of

2095
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:39,840
finds a way to like lean on his people. Benj like, yeah,

2096
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:42,119
great pile, I fucking like to cook. Yeah, I like

2097
01:35:42,199 --> 01:35:45,159
to fly. Like he's just he's just around because like, oh,

2098
01:35:45,199 --> 01:35:47,159
we wanted to fight the Hulkin Secret Wars, you know,

2099
01:35:47,239 --> 01:35:48,880
like that that's what it feels is. I hope when

2100
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:51,159
we get to four two that we could if we

2101
01:35:51,199 --> 01:35:53,279
get there, he can get like a bigger moment. Even

2102
01:35:53,279 --> 01:35:55,920
that scene where he's talking with Reed same thing. He

2103
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:58,399
just sounds like he's completely forgiven him right because they

2104
01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:01,880
made they insinuate. Nime Rene said that what happened to

2105
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:05,520
him was his fault. He miscalculated. But Dan, let somebody's Oh,

2106
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:07,399
it's fine, you couldn't have known, so let him have

2107
01:36:07,399 --> 01:36:09,479
the hook right away. That's which we've seen other movies

2108
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:11,359
right where he doesn't. That's kind of a thing where

2109
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:14,600
read's obsessed like I'm gonna fix you, like I'm really sorry,

2110
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:17,399
but this movie like, ah, shit happens, you know, but

2111
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:19,039
you're having a kid, So I think the same thing.

2112
01:36:19,079 --> 01:36:20,600
He's having a kid, so another time of place. But

2113
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:23,439
I just I would like a little bit more on Bangram,

2114
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:25,800
who looked fantastic in this. I think the early trailers

2115
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:28,319
there are some rough shots, but I think no issues

2116
01:36:28,359 --> 01:36:29,680
I had with him here other than a few times

2117
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:32,359
he was on the street. The street was not It

2118
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:34,800
was just not working some of the textures and stuff

2119
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:35,439
with him on it.

2120
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:38,319
Speaker 2: So what a sharp dressed man too. They be just

2121
01:36:38,399 --> 01:36:41,920
swagged out like sweater vest. He was wearing some different hats.

2122
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:45,039
He well, yeah, he looked good for a rock monster.

2123
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 1: Let's take a mayoral less sad break and then we'll

2124
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:52,439
be right back. All right, we are back.

2125
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 2: Something I wanted to slither in here before we closed out.

2126
01:36:58,039 --> 01:37:00,640
You know, as you already mentioned, we did our own

2127
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:04,520
little fancastie who we'd want to potentially be our Fantastic four.

2128
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:06,720
You know, you shout it up. Vanessa Kirby. I think

2129
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:09,359
Adam Driver was in the mix for Pedro. That might

2130
01:37:09,399 --> 01:37:12,520
have been your pick after watching No.

2131
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:14,680
Speaker 1: That was not my pick. My old school pick was

2132
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:16,800
like Bill Hayter. And then, as I said, once someone

2133
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:19,760
told me Penn Bradley though. That's why I'm like, that's

2134
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:22,079
still to me. But now Pedro. I knew Pedro could

2135
01:37:22,079 --> 01:37:24,479
do it. I just was on paper. We've seen him.

2136
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,159
That stuff for Pedro, you know, at home run to me.

2137
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:30,239
Speaker 2: Maybe we were just talking about some point then, or

2138
01:37:30,279 --> 01:37:32,560
maybe somebody actually did have him. But I feel like

2139
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:35,880
in my in my old mind, we we we were

2140
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:39,640
talking about Adam Driver, is the role of Reid Margot

2141
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:42,279
Robbie in the role of Super Well, those were rumored

2142
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:44,319
they that's what it would have been.

2143
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:48,079
Speaker 1: Yes, we talked about the newscasts. The rumor is that

2144
01:37:48,159 --> 01:37:50,520
they wanted they were going to them. But the rumors

2145
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:54,199
of both Driver and Robbie asked for too much, so.

2146
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 2: After watching the film, I prefer Pedro. Obviously, I haven't

2147
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:01,479
seen the Adam Driver version, but it's just it's a

2148
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:05,239
harder it's a harder like role for me to see

2149
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:10,680
that actor portray. Yeah, it's kind of a redundant statement

2150
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:12,159
because I can't compare the two.

2151
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 1: But like it probably would have been a bit different too,

2152
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:15,319
like to go.

2153
01:38:15,239 --> 01:38:18,720
Speaker 2: To but like just and I didn't really shout it

2154
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:21,600
out much, but I I just love the science read

2155
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:23,880
in this, like him with his chalkboard and just like

2156
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:27,640
giving it all to like the knowledge, Like like Pedro

2157
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:30,239
just killed the role, like it was so well done

2158
01:38:30,399 --> 01:38:34,000
performance wise. I'm sure I'm Driver, could you know, phenomenal actor.

2159
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:35,680
I'm sure he could do a really great job. But

2160
01:38:36,079 --> 01:38:38,279
watching this, I'm like, man Pedro was read Richard's like

2161
01:38:38,319 --> 01:38:41,399
this is just like he like more so, I don't

2162
01:38:41,399 --> 01:38:44,079
remember the the other actor's name from from the previous film,

2163
01:38:44,279 --> 01:38:52,640
and no Miles Teller, so uh kill Melin Tree. I

2164
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:55,560
thought there I should have pulled up my mouse, but yeah, no,

2165
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:58,720
I'm I'm glad I got this version for the cheaper one.

2166
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:01,319
Madam Drivers asked for money. So I've worked out for everyone.

2167
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:06,079
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think who had this? I think this

2168
01:39:06,239 --> 01:39:10,119
was my Is this my list? Someone had John So

2169
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:13,119
I don't know who did this because I can't watch

2170
01:39:13,159 --> 01:39:16,600
the audio right now, but someone had John because we

2171
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:19,079
did teams. It was me, and then it was Kirkland

2172
01:39:19,119 --> 01:39:22,640
and Taylor and then Dylan Amber. One roster was John

2173
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:26,720
Hamm as Reid Richards Charlie's then as Sue Storm. Uh,

2174
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:31,000
this probably was me, Dakrey Montgomery as Human Torch, and

2175
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:33,920
then Alan Tudic as the Things. That was my roster

2176
01:39:34,079 --> 01:39:37,039
right there. I'll try and pull up your guys's of

2177
01:39:37,079 --> 01:39:40,039
who would have been next there, but that was one

2178
01:39:40,119 --> 01:39:42,359
of them. I don't know what I sing with John Hamm,

2179
01:39:42,399 --> 01:39:45,159
but you know I like him so and then okay,

2180
01:39:45,159 --> 01:39:47,279
so another roster. I think this is your guys list,

2181
01:39:47,399 --> 01:39:50,720
you guys, Yeah, this is your list for sure. Yeah,

2182
01:39:51,079 --> 01:39:55,479
Zachary Quinto as Reid Richards, Olivia Wild the Sue Storm,

2183
01:39:56,319 --> 01:40:00,640
Zach Efron as Human Torch, and then John Cena the Thing.

2184
01:40:01,159 --> 01:40:04,600
So that was that was that was Taylor's and kirklans

2185
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:07,399
combine list. And then let's see if I get Don

2186
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:11,920
and Ambers here. It's taken forever to.

2187
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:13,880
Speaker 2: Get funny with teams for this, and then you were

2188
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:14,760
just on your own.

2189
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Kyle was supposed to join me, but

2190
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:23,159
he probably flaked out. But yeah, I can't find Oh,

2191
01:40:23,239 --> 01:40:25,800
there I found it. Now, Okay, here we go, here

2192
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:29,640
we go, let's see. So oh yeah, this is definitely

2193
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:31,880
Amber and Dillon's because I thought this was a terrible

2194
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:34,119
pick story, don't. We were listening, but Jim Carrey is

2195
01:40:34,199 --> 01:40:37,319
read Richard's off. I remember Dale try to pitch it.

2196
01:40:37,399 --> 01:40:40,960
I think, no, no, no, and then y this is

2197
01:40:41,039 --> 01:40:41,800
twenty eighteen.

2198
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:43,600
Speaker 2: Holy fuck.

2199
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:46,399
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, we should look at some of these though.

2200
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:49,359
And then there's suit Storm was Yvonne Sharounski and then

2201
01:40:49,359 --> 01:40:51,880
their human torch was Dave Franco, and then their thing

2202
01:40:52,199 --> 01:40:55,960
was uh, Seth Rogan. So I'll go back and look

2203
01:40:55,960 --> 01:41:00,359
at some of those. So that's fun. Yeah, anything else typically,

2204
01:41:00,359 --> 01:41:02,279
I know we'll probably talk about this again when newscasts

2205
01:41:02,279 --> 01:41:04,199
and Golden Geeks, and I'm sure when Dylan talks about

2206
01:41:04,199 --> 01:41:06,119
and we'll probably talk about again to on g A

2207
01:41:06,199 --> 01:41:08,079
this weekend when we do our crossover. So I should

2208
01:41:08,079 --> 01:41:10,800
promote that GUE episode we're doing a crossover done that

2209
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:13,439
well with a crossover the Saturday six pm psd our

2210
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:15,800
ten year celebration their five year so we'll probably talk

2211
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:17,840
about it again a bit there, but anything specifically we

2212
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:19,479
have talked about other than the end credit, we'll talk

2213
01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:21,880
about that quickly. And I have a funny thing to

2214
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:22,520
show you guys.

2215
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:27,640
Speaker 2: But no, uh, there's probably something I'm forgetting.

2216
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:29,119
Speaker 1: But it sounds like Matt Reeve's there.

2217
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:35,720
Speaker 4: No, yeah, interteresting, No, no, I can't think of anything

2218
01:41:36,159 --> 01:41:36,680
at its core.

2219
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 3: I just I think it's, uh, we're not doing No, yeah,

2220
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:43,399
I'm gonna wait for for that. Actually I'll wait and we.

2221
01:41:43,359 --> 01:41:45,640
Speaker 1: Just fell asleep, but it's okay. We're still in the

2222
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:48,960
end of the review. So anyways, we got two end credits.

2223
01:41:49,359 --> 01:41:52,640
The second end credit was just a the cartoon, which

2224
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:56,079
man our theater is not like, oh, our theater is

2225
01:41:56,119 --> 01:41:56,880
not happy with that.

2226
01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:58,279
Speaker 2: In front of me, He's like, that's it.

2227
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I've always said this before. If you're gonna

2228
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:04,840
do a comedy one, you'll lead with that one. I

2229
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:07,079
never think you should do. But I get why they

2230
01:42:07,119 --> 01:42:08,800
didn't because they want people to see what we did

2231
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:11,760
get I will bring up so this is how I

2232
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:14,359
thought I was spoiled, but I will because I don't

2233
01:42:14,359 --> 01:42:15,960
think this stream is gonna get taken down. It should

2234
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:17,680
be okay because we're in spoilers, so and it's all

2235
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:21,239
over Twitter. But we get a scene where it's they say,

2236
01:42:21,279 --> 01:42:26,760
four years later. Four years later, Vanessa Kirby's reading Franklin

2237
01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:30,239
a story here, a fun little joke of like, oh

2238
01:42:30,239 --> 01:42:31,640
what should we read when they bring out some like

2239
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:33,600
huge textbook and stuff like that, you know.

2240
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:35,920
Speaker 4: The Origins of our Species by Charles Darwin.

2241
01:42:36,119 --> 01:42:38,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, oh no, this is something more fun. Let's

2242
01:42:38,279 --> 01:42:42,680
do that. Walk over super very calm to me, reacts

2243
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:45,560
very calmly to just a man and a cloak, you know,

2244
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:48,079
hanging out with her some But that's what happens. We

2245
01:42:48,119 --> 01:42:49,960
got the image right here just so you can see

2246
01:42:50,199 --> 01:42:53,079
a little bit so at least what we don't know

2247
01:42:53,119 --> 01:42:56,800
what's gonna happen with this, but the mask looking very

2248
01:42:57,239 --> 01:43:00,359
classic doctor Doom. He's got the cape, he's got the

2249
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:02,960
hood and everything. So I like that, but yeah, that's happening.

2250
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:06,399
She turns the corner and or assuming down he's Victor Bond.

2251
01:43:06,399 --> 01:43:08,960
Doom didn't get to see him, so I'm wondering what

2252
01:43:09,039 --> 01:43:11,520
they're gonna do, if it's gonna be in some com books.

2253
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:13,520
He's very scarred. I don't know if he's gonna have

2254
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:16,960
different hair what not. But yeah, what did you guys

2255
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:18,720
think about this scene? And then I do with something

2256
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:20,359
very funny to show you after, But what do you

2257
01:43:20,359 --> 01:43:23,560
guys think about this as the end credit that clearly

2258
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:26,880
I think what they're setting up is whatever Galactis sensed

2259
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:29,800
about Franklin Richards one way or another, whether it's this

2260
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:33,079
universe or another universe. Doom can sense that, and he's

2261
01:43:33,119 --> 01:43:35,840
gonna use whatever power Franklin uses. And I think that's

2262
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:39,479
like a perfect mcguffin for at least Doom's day and

2263
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:41,640
at least for that four of He's getting his hands

2264
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:44,239
on this powerful kid. So it's like same way the

2265
01:43:44,359 --> 01:43:47,520
Gaunt and the Findy Stones were Athanass you know mcguffin,

2266
01:43:48,279 --> 01:43:51,720
super almost god tear character is Doom's you know mcguffin.

2267
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:53,199
So I think that's a good setup.

2268
01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I thought it was. I thought it was

2269
01:43:57,520 --> 01:43:59,119
a good thing for Taylor to lead us off with,

2270
01:43:59,279 --> 01:44:02,600
so pass uh.

2271
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:04,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I I honestly thought that he was gonna turn

2272
01:44:05,039 --> 01:44:08,960
or we get to see his face. Uh, but you

2273
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:11,520
know it's okay. We It just builds that excitement and

2274
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:15,159
that anticipation, especially because you get that title the Fantastic

2275
01:44:15,199 --> 01:44:18,720
Four will return and Avengers Doomsday specifically, So just like

2276
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:22,359
building that height. But I a part of me thought

2277
01:44:22,359 --> 01:44:24,159
it's just gonna be Galactus and it was gonna be

2278
01:44:24,239 --> 01:44:27,800
like a small form of him, like child size with Franklin.

2279
01:44:28,079 --> 01:44:35,600
Uh but yeah, yeah, yeah, It's just it got me

2280
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:38,760
really really excited at seeing seeing that, And I think

2281
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:43,079
you're probably right. Whatever power that Galactas sensed, Doom senses

2282
01:44:43,119 --> 01:44:45,520
it too. And Doom's always looking for the next big

2283
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:48,960
high right, his next big big thing upgrading.

2284
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:52,079
Speaker 1: Oh fuck yeah, Franklin, you want this ship.

2285
01:44:54,239 --> 01:44:59,800
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's it's interesting that they they have doctor

2286
01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:01,920
g him here and whether or not it's a mistake

2287
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:04,039
that he goes to like six one six like our

2288
01:45:04,079 --> 01:45:07,439
main multiversal time, don't's a mistake.

2289
01:45:08,319 --> 01:45:10,239
Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know, I'm sorry, Snyer fans.

2290
01:45:10,239 --> 01:45:12,079
I don't want to no ship where dark Side finds

2291
01:45:12,119 --> 01:45:14,960
Anti Equation gets stabbed and forgot where it was and

2292
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:16,720
they go to Earth like this is where it was, Like,

2293
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:19,279
I don't want him to accidentally end up on six

2294
01:45:19,359 --> 01:45:21,760
one six. I still I know it's a mix. I

2295
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:24,199
think some mean Kirk and tumbl Newscass. I still love

2296
01:45:24,239 --> 01:45:26,760
the theory or it's a rumor going around that he

2297
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:28,720
goes to six one six and pretends to be like

2298
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:29,960
Tony Stark because he.

2299
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:32,680
Speaker 3: Looks like and I think love that.

2300
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:36,119
Speaker 1: I'm just like, hey, guys, I'm a different Verian iron Man.

2301
01:45:36,159 --> 01:45:38,920
And there's this team called that Fantastic Four in this universe.

2302
01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:40,920
They're gonna fuck us up. There's this team that X Men.

2303
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:43,039
They're gonna fuck us up. Like, I think that's such

2304
01:45:43,079 --> 01:45:45,079
a fun And that's probably why they didn't show us

2305
01:45:45,079 --> 01:45:47,560
to face right, because for the normies, if they're not

2306
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:51,479
watching when they see I bet I wonder that'd be

2307
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:54,319
a good predictions is when we get that first teaser

2308
01:45:54,359 --> 01:45:57,399
for Doomsday. If anytime you see doctor Doom, he's in

2309
01:45:57,439 --> 01:46:00,479
the mask, but when you see Tony, he's like, he

2310
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:03,000
looks like he's Tony again, so that the norm he's saying, oh,

2311
01:46:03,039 --> 01:46:05,760
Tony's back, and then you get that switch. Even though

2312
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:08,000
everyone knows there's tons of people that aren't paying attention

2313
01:46:08,079 --> 01:46:10,159
to this, right, they'll have no idea that they'll just

2314
01:46:10,399 --> 01:46:12,840
know that Downy is back, So that might be be

2315
01:46:13,039 --> 01:46:14,520
maybe maybe why they didn't show the face.

2316
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:17,319
Speaker 3: KIRKL does your dad know that that's that's Downy.

2317
01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:20,399
Speaker 2: I definitely told him once upon a time that Downey

2318
01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:22,680
was coming back, and he probably, you know, keeps a

2319
01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:26,800
finger on the pulse right now. You probably saw our

2320
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:29,760
newscast talking about that way back when that was announced.

2321
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:33,239
But I guarantee like he would have forgotten about it,

2322
01:46:33,279 --> 01:46:36,279
just because he's not like I don't know times well too,

2323
01:46:36,359 --> 01:46:38,560
when Donny were when's Donnie.

2324
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:41,840
Speaker 1: Donnie Downey, Donnie Downey Junior?

2325
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 2: When's Downey coming in? But yeah, I I don't know.

2326
01:46:48,159 --> 01:46:52,039
I'm I'm in between on the end credit. It's honestly,

2327
01:46:53,039 --> 01:46:58,000
are you fucking kidding me? K I wanted to see

2328
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:00,359
the face. I wanted to see the face. Honestly, there's

2329
01:47:00,359 --> 01:47:03,000
a reason it's I can't spoil that yet.

2330
01:47:03,039 --> 01:47:03,279
Speaker 1: I did.

2331
01:47:03,399 --> 01:47:05,479
Speaker 2: Like nothing new in here. It's like, oh, he's in

2332
01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:07,760
the green cloak, always got a mask, Okay.

2333
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:09,079
Speaker 1: Well, the new thing is he wants a kid.

2334
01:47:09,119 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 2: Though he's coming. He was missing in every fucking un meeting.

2335
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:17,000
I assumed he was gonna be somehow tied to the

2336
01:47:17,039 --> 01:47:18,119
Fantastic Four.

2337
01:47:18,039 --> 01:47:21,079
Speaker 1: But the kid though, Like this sets up that the

2338
01:47:21,159 --> 01:47:23,359
kid is important for Doomsday.

2339
01:47:23,439 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 2: Now, Like I think that was pretty obvious when you

2340
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:29,119
have Galactus, this like ancient being that's like I need

2341
01:47:29,119 --> 01:47:31,640
this one child to replace me. Child lives on Okay, well,

2342
01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:34,319
child's not gonna just be free and like in the

2343
01:47:34,359 --> 01:47:36,800
clear for the rest of his life. Like guarantee you

2344
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:39,279
galactic threats are gonna be after him for the rest

2345
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:43,800
of his days. Yeah, I don't know. I wanted. I

2346
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:46,279
think also coming into this movie, I'm like, what cameos

2347
01:47:46,319 --> 01:47:49,720
are we going to get? And then nothing, nothing really

2348
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:52,680
at all, because we don't even get down his face,

2349
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:56,079
and it was like it's impossible, especially with how much

2350
01:47:56,079 --> 01:47:57,800
we talk about these things. But in my mind, I'm like,

2351
01:47:58,119 --> 01:47:59,920
what I would do to just be living in the

2352
01:48:00,119 --> 01:48:03,600
universe where like the Downy announcement wasn't made and like

2353
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:06,680
we actually have no idea who's playing doom like man

2354
01:48:07,119 --> 01:48:09,720
to just be one of those individuals that's actually like

2355
01:48:10,039 --> 01:48:13,199
clueless on that when you eventually get the and like

2356
01:48:13,279 --> 01:48:15,960
it could be your situation that it's like Downy's back,

2357
01:48:16,039 --> 01:48:18,279
Holy fuck. And then it is later revealed that it's

2358
01:48:18,279 --> 01:48:19,840
like a variant and it's actually doom.

2359
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 1: Like the only thing I think we talked about that

2360
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:25,840
in Comic Con. The only thing is I wonder that

2361
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:28,560
if we, as the comic fans, were watching this and

2362
01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:30,720
in the middle of the movie, just like, oh, like

2363
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:34,039
Downy's doom us processing that right in the middle of

2364
01:48:34,079 --> 01:48:37,079
the movie. I bet they thought that could sour son

2365
01:48:37,119 --> 01:48:39,199
of the pieal. So let's give them time to sit

2366
01:48:39,279 --> 01:48:42,119
with it. I like the scenario where imagine we get

2367
01:48:42,119 --> 01:48:44,479
this end credit and we don't know who the actor is.

2368
01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:46,920
Fuck that like that, like at all, Like it's not

2369
01:48:47,079 --> 01:48:50,520
the Downy twist. It's just Killian or it's somebody it's

2370
01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:53,159
Mad's Michelson, or it's somebody under there, you know, Like

2371
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:56,239
that'd be so cool, like, oh who is, especially if

2372
01:48:56,239 --> 01:48:58,640
they would announce like a bunch of actors, but like,

2373
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:00,319
we're not gonna tell you they're playing. I know they're

2374
01:49:00,359 --> 01:49:02,159
turning to people just like, oh, there's some actors, but

2375
01:49:02,159 --> 01:49:04,640
we're not gonna tell you. But you know, here we are.

2376
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:06,520
But again, at least for me, what I like is

2377
01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:09,119
I think they're doing the right thing of going back

2378
01:49:09,159 --> 01:49:10,840
to let's just set up the next project, and that's

2379
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:13,520
what they should because we've gotten too many of lingering

2380
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:15,800
things going on. This is a perfect They set up

2381
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:18,439
Doctor Doom, they set up the Kid, and that's the

2382
01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:20,840
second next thing. Right, we got Spider Man, but I

2383
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:23,640
think that's smarter than some of the stuff they've done before.

2384
01:49:24,159 --> 01:49:26,399
And yeah, this is a scene they probably shod and

2385
01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:29,520
fucking like not even half an hour, like fifteen minutes

2386
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:31,319
on Doom's dangers, like, hey, throw it in there. But

2387
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:34,159
I did want to bring up so I got spoiled

2388
01:49:34,199 --> 01:49:36,000
on this scene. But I didn't know I got spoiled

2389
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:39,640
on the scene because I was Twitter does this awful

2390
01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:42,760
thing where you watch videos and the second video has done,

2391
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:45,159
it just shoots down, goes to another video. So they

2392
01:49:45,159 --> 01:49:47,880
showed me this. But luckily when I caught it, it

2393
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:51,000
was AI. But now when I watched it, I realized

2394
01:49:51,039 --> 01:49:53,000
that it is the scene it's gone add on to,

2395
01:49:53,159 --> 01:49:55,199
but is the exact scene from the end credit. So

2396
01:49:55,239 --> 01:49:58,119
someone must have heard it and asked AI to recreate it.

2397
01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:02,000
But watch you get out. This is good stuff. So

2398
01:50:02,079 --> 01:50:07,279
here it is, everybody, and then we're gonna do Don't

2399
01:50:07,319 --> 01:50:10,880
be afraid. I'm a friend of your fockers.

2400
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:24,359
Speaker 7: Just wait for it. Wait wait, I am.

2401
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:31,119
Speaker 1: I am Victor. There's so much weirdness to this trailer.

2402
01:50:31,159 --> 01:50:31,800
I am Victor.

2403
01:50:33,039 --> 01:50:35,760
Speaker 4: What is that sus storm in the back of her back?

2404
01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:40,239
Speaker 1: Just chilling, Yeah, just watching, but like I love this

2405
01:50:40,279 --> 01:50:42,840
guy's so scary and it sounds like damn if that's

2406
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:48,359
where the AI still kicks in there, just I am Victored.

2407
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:52,279
So that's when I said, like, oh, that's not the

2408
01:50:52,359 --> 01:50:54,039
end credit. So then when the end credit popped into

2409
01:50:54,119 --> 01:50:56,199
the movie, I was like, oh, fuck, that AI video

2410
01:50:56,399 --> 01:50:59,640
was the version of that. But uh, yeah, you're right,

2411
01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:02,920
very funny. But I am Victor. I'm a friend of

2412
01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:08,640
your fathers. I am Victor. Uh bats are rating?

2413
01:51:10,079 --> 01:51:13,520
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I'm excited to rewatch this one to really

2414
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:17,840
solidify my my thoughts because you know, coming into this discussion,

2415
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:19,760
it's like, yeah, I don't know, they kept it pretty safe,

2416
01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:22,399
but overall there was a really fun adventure. But more

2417
01:51:22,399 --> 01:51:25,039
I unpacked with you guys. I realized there's actually a

2418
01:51:25,039 --> 01:51:27,640
lot more character stuff that I really enjoyed. I felt

2419
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:30,399
like Sue, I don't know, in the moment, she didn't

2420
01:51:30,399 --> 01:51:34,039
seem as like much of like, no, that's I was

2421
01:51:34,039 --> 01:51:40,840
gonna say as much as the main character something about it.

2422
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:41,239
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2423
01:51:41,359 --> 01:51:45,079
Speaker 2: I I ended up and I think it's mostly that

2424
01:51:45,199 --> 01:51:47,119
scene that I that I was mentioning, how like she

2425
01:51:47,159 --> 01:51:50,199
goes out and just talks about family, and in my mind,

2426
01:51:50,239 --> 01:51:52,319
I'm like, this is just ridiculous, this wouldn't work out.

2427
01:51:52,319 --> 01:51:54,800
But by the end of it, they totally sold me

2428
01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:59,039
on it. No, great time, highly recommend it. I think

2429
01:51:59,079 --> 01:52:02,920
I'm gonna give it. I'll just round up. I'm gonna

2430
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:04,880
go nine. I didn't think I was gonna be out

2431
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:07,640
of nine for this one, but yeah, the.

2432
01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:09,439
Speaker 1: Same score a Superman for you. I thought it was

2433
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:11,159
gonna be lower than Superman. That's interesting.

2434
01:52:12,199 --> 01:52:14,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like same, like the more I I steal

2435
01:52:14,319 --> 01:52:17,119
on Superman, I think there's some things that maybe bring

2436
01:52:17,119 --> 01:52:19,640
it down ever so slightly. But I've only seen the

2437
01:52:19,640 --> 01:52:22,560
two projects once, so you know, maybe on a second rewatch,

2438
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:27,000
I'll I'll see which one's higher or lower. But uh, really, yeah,

2439
01:52:27,079 --> 01:52:29,680
it's funny, you know, comparing the two because they're they're

2440
01:52:29,720 --> 01:52:31,720
pretty close to one another, and that was kind of

2441
01:52:31,720 --> 01:52:35,039
the big comparison for Marvel versus the DC. But yeah,

2442
01:52:35,119 --> 01:52:37,279
great time. So it's been a nice couple of weeks

2443
01:52:37,359 --> 01:52:43,000
here of superhero content. Yeah the year, so sorry about that,

2444
01:52:43,079 --> 01:52:45,720
but uh yeah, maybe I'll leave it there.

2445
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:48,600
Speaker 1: I guess we do got that eawall Conda show. Well

2446
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:51,039
we fuck, We've got one man in December. But I

2447
01:52:51,079 --> 01:52:52,560
think we've all said what.

2448
01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:56,399
Speaker 2: Happened with the Conda? Didn't you? Just since the day job?

2449
01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:58,479
Speaker 1: So it's it's next week, so we're gonna try and

2450
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:01,199
do some I think you're gone so or I can't remember.

2451
01:53:01,239 --> 01:53:04,039
We're gonna try to do er, but I'll say wonder

2452
01:53:04,079 --> 01:53:06,560
man is. We're gonna try o review, but it's tough.

2453
01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:10,079
It's dropping during Christmas, you know, or around then. Lots

2454
01:53:10,119 --> 01:53:12,800
of stuff going on. Well talk about Avatar another day, Taylor,

2455
01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:13,760
what's your score here?

2456
01:53:16,399 --> 01:53:19,319
Speaker 4: Everything about this movie is awesome. It's an adventure. Like

2457
01:53:19,359 --> 01:53:21,600
I said at the start of this review. It captures

2458
01:53:21,640 --> 01:53:23,840
a lot of that early MCU stuff that I've been

2459
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:25,119
missing for a long time.

2460
01:53:25,279 --> 01:53:28,880
Speaker 3: So it's it's hitting on all cylinders.

2461
01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:31,960
Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna give it a full tent because

2462
01:53:32,479 --> 01:53:35,680
someone should have caught that baby and done something about it.

2463
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:40,079
That was fucking brutal. Some of that shit just that

2464
01:53:40,399 --> 01:53:42,920
I've I've always thought Twilight was it, and it would

2465
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:45,119
that stuff would always stay in Twilight, but the fact

2466
01:53:45,159 --> 01:53:49,600
that we could see it here just yeah, it wasn't.

2467
01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:51,800
It wasn't working for me. It was it was not

2468
01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:52,640
working for me.

2469
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:54,680
Speaker 3: My god. Like I've seen.

2470
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:58,359
Speaker 4: People selling on Facebook marketplace these fake dolls that look

2471
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:01,239
way like fake baby dolls that look way more real.

2472
01:54:01,279 --> 01:54:04,159
It's like for practicing like yeah, I don't know, like

2473
01:54:04,359 --> 01:54:06,439
like baby kind of like taking care of your babies

2474
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:09,479
and whatnot. And those dolls have like realistic looking like

2475
01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:12,159
features and everything. Get one of those then just cgi

2476
01:54:12,399 --> 01:54:14,039
like certain parts of the face if you want, but

2477
01:54:14,039 --> 01:54:16,960
don't just the whole head and everything. It's just it

2478
01:54:17,039 --> 01:54:19,840
didn't didn't work for me. The scenes where it was

2479
01:54:19,840 --> 01:54:22,359
a real baby though, yeah top tier. Then everything was

2480
01:54:22,399 --> 01:54:24,800
hunky dory. But yeah, that's my biggest con. So I'm

2481
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:30,720
gonna go, I'm gonna go nine point five out of ten.

2482
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:33,439
Like it's it's just the big thing is just the baby.

2483
01:54:33,479 --> 01:54:36,720
But other than that, everything else was so so much fun.

2484
01:54:36,880 --> 01:54:40,720
And it's just it's funny, uh seeing this movie and

2485
01:54:40,760 --> 01:54:44,199
then seeing again taking my wife who was having a kid,

2486
01:54:44,279 --> 01:54:46,960
and then seeing all this like dynamic of them having

2487
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:48,720
a kid in the movie and everything like that, and

2488
01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:50,439
then especially even the.

2489
01:54:50,359 --> 01:54:53,359
Speaker 1: Part where publicly said that yet but that's okay, No,

2490
01:54:53,439 --> 01:54:54,119
I haven't.

2491
01:54:54,199 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 4: I wasn't hoping that you would highlight it. I was

2492
01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:58,039
just sneaking it in there.

2493
01:54:58,079 --> 01:55:02,039
Speaker 1: But parents said, let's go sneak in that. My wife

2494
01:55:02,039 --> 01:55:03,560
is praying to our second child. What are they to

2495
01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:08,279
sneak in rebirth that my dad like trying to sneak

2496
01:55:08,319 --> 01:55:10,479
into the back door, like buy a couple of inches,

2497
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:12,319
you know, like a damn people think.

2498
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:15,920
Speaker 4: But the the other thing too, that was making me

2499
01:55:16,039 --> 01:55:18,960
laugh was the it is at the end with the

2500
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:23,000
car seat when they were trying to install I just upgraded.

2501
01:55:23,359 --> 01:55:26,239
It's the teen's car seat, And I fucking feel the

2502
01:55:26,279 --> 01:55:29,359
stress of that, that whole situation, that the dynamic and

2503
01:55:29,399 --> 01:55:31,000
I'm trying to get the seat belt and shit, because

2504
01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:35,199
the little little baby infant car seats are one thing.

2505
01:55:35,279 --> 01:55:37,199
But when you they get to be bigger and you're

2506
01:55:37,359 --> 01:55:39,680
doing the upgrade one and the seat belts wrapping around

2507
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:41,680
ship like it's fucking it's it's chaotic.

2508
01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:42,600
Speaker 3: It's a whole other thing.

2509
01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 1: So I didn't mind that scene. I just didn't like

2510
01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:48,000
the placement. I was happy to end the movie where

2511
01:55:48,039 --> 01:55:49,880
we were and then that beat went on a bit

2512
01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:51,439
too long for me there, or that could have been

2513
01:55:51,439 --> 01:55:54,199
the end credit instead of the animated show thing, you know,

2514
01:55:54,439 --> 01:55:57,880
if they want to comedic one, but I'd aggress, but yeah,

2515
01:55:57,880 --> 01:56:02,000
I'll go slightly above mister Field nine point seventy five

2516
01:56:02,079 --> 01:56:04,680
because yeah, I will agree that baby. And then for me,

2517
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:07,479
literally it's my con is just again it sounds weird

2518
01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:10,239
that there's not enough. But the negative from that is,

2519
01:56:10,239 --> 01:56:12,800
like I said, there's some stuff that I wouldn't say

2520
01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:16,279
feels shallow but definitely feels like we could use a

2521
01:56:16,279 --> 01:56:18,199
lot more lived in When you got the rest of

2522
01:56:18,199 --> 01:56:21,039
the movie that feels so lived in, there's some relationships,

2523
01:56:21,079 --> 01:56:23,479
some moments that if we could get to breathe a

2524
01:56:23,479 --> 01:56:26,640
little bit more with said characters, it would be great.

2525
01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:28,439
And that's not a bad problem to have, right, But

2526
01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:31,399
I do think at times it affects the movie where

2527
01:56:31,439 --> 01:56:34,279
I feel like I still don't know the most of

2528
01:56:34,319 --> 01:56:36,279
the dynamic between Read and Ben, you know, like I'm

2529
01:56:36,319 --> 01:56:38,640
not saying any of the dynamic of every single one them,

2530
01:56:38,680 --> 01:56:41,800
but like as the combos, but I would I would

2531
01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:44,039
prefer when you lay it up like Hey, they got

2532
01:56:44,039 --> 01:56:46,239
one scene together, we established their friend. I thought that's

2533
01:56:46,279 --> 01:56:48,800
gonna be hopefully the one of many. So yeah, like

2534
01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:51,159
you said, some stuff a ban and even with his story, right,

2535
01:56:51,239 --> 01:56:53,800
why is the why is that lady in there? We

2536
01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:55,720
really didn't know. We can figure that out, and I

2537
01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:58,279
don't think anyone will suggest one. So I think that's

2538
01:56:58,319 --> 01:57:00,960
it where just some of the pacing was fine, but

2539
01:57:01,119 --> 01:57:02,800
I would have been fine to slow down and learn

2540
01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:05,359
a little bit more about some of the characters and relationships.

2541
01:57:05,359 --> 01:57:07,760
I think that would only strengthen the ending of this

2542
01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:10,319
movie when they're together, where at times it feels like

2543
01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:12,960
definitely not like thrown together like some of the stuff

2544
01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:15,439
we talked about in Superman with like the Daily Planet team,

2545
01:57:15,479 --> 01:57:16,920
and they're like celebrating at the end, like I don't

2546
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:19,479
fucking know you at all. It's not that level. But

2547
01:57:19,680 --> 01:57:21,800
there is where it's like, okay, it's not Guardian's level

2548
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:23,239
as well, where it's like, oh, by the end of

2549
01:57:23,239 --> 01:57:25,840
that movie, I got a good feeling of each and

2550
01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:28,479
every one of you together or even Avengers, right, So

2551
01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:30,560
I think it's missing a little bit of that a

2552
01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:32,720
little more time. I hope that happens with the f

2553
01:57:32,720 --> 01:57:35,319
four sequel if they get there. But yeah, I'm very

2554
01:57:35,359 --> 01:57:38,960
surprised by my score at nine point seventy five. I

2555
01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:41,039
think that's behind Twenty Days Later and Cinat's my third

2556
01:57:41,039 --> 01:57:43,720
favorite movie the year, and well, I guess Scott Wilson

2557
01:57:43,760 --> 01:57:45,199
Gramin as well. But still I did not think it

2558
01:57:45,199 --> 01:57:47,439
was gonna be this high. So Blue pass expectations. I

2559
01:57:47,439 --> 01:57:50,079
cannot wait see this one again. Superman. I was like, hey,

2560
01:57:50,079 --> 01:57:51,960
I'm good to watch again at some point. This is

2561
01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:54,319
one that I said, I'm not sure about Logan, but

2562
01:57:54,359 --> 01:57:56,239
with Gwen she wanted to see this. I would actually

2563
01:57:56,319 --> 01:57:58,239
be completely down to go see this in the theater again.

2564
01:57:58,279 --> 01:58:00,399
That's how much I enjoyed it. And yeah, I think

2565
01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:04,960
just a stellar time overall. And hey, it's it's getting better,

2566
01:58:05,079 --> 01:58:07,560
you know, like Thunderbolts in this back to back. I

2567
01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:09,840
had Thunderbolts in my top fifteen. This is my top

2568
01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:12,039
fifteen as well. That I'm pretty happy with that. I

2569
01:58:12,039 --> 01:58:13,840
don't need movies to be a top ten, top five,

2570
01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:16,159
those should be more rare, but the fact that we're

2571
01:58:16,159 --> 01:58:19,000
getting that, hopefully Spider Man and next Avengers can be

2572
01:58:19,119 --> 01:58:22,000
that same quality, and I'm happy Camper and hopefully we're

2573
01:58:22,279 --> 01:58:25,439
head towards I like this where we end. Uh. You know,

2574
01:58:25,479 --> 01:58:28,520
of course bad movies and bad shows. We get some

2575
01:58:28,640 --> 01:58:31,680
fun banger reviews because we're just like trying to break

2576
01:58:31,720 --> 01:58:34,279
down what the fuck is guy and Secret Invasion, But

2577
01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:37,000
generally when I walk, I even Superman, which I didn't

2578
01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:38,760
love as much as these guys, but I still enjoyed

2579
01:58:39,159 --> 01:58:41,439
like walking out of a movie and enjoying my time,

2580
01:58:41,439 --> 01:58:43,079
and this one very much the love walking out of

2581
01:58:43,079 --> 01:58:45,640
an MC movie and loving it so and again another

2582
01:58:45,680 --> 01:58:47,720
movie like Brave New World, and I can't remember with

2583
01:58:47,840 --> 01:58:50,399
Oh Thunderbolts we did we didn't get the Marvel logo

2584
01:58:50,479 --> 01:58:52,840
that dun We didn't get that, So it's two movies

2585
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:55,000
this year we did not get that, And I guess

2586
01:58:55,039 --> 01:58:57,239
that kind of fits for this being a different universe.

2587
01:58:57,279 --> 01:59:00,199
But yes, Luzia, and we'll be back next week. Like

2588
01:59:00,239 --> 01:59:02,479
I said, we'll probably tell us in the crossover. Next week,

2589
01:59:02,479 --> 01:59:04,840
we'll get some box office and yeah, I'm sure we'll

2590
01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:06,319
be talm abou us at least with the MCU, Golden

2591
01:59:06,359 --> 01:59:08,039
Geks maybe the other stuff and pross when you here

2592
01:59:08,079 --> 01:59:10,279
for us next and'll I'll be born.

2593
01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:12,119
Speaker 2: Bye go