1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: The Florida Football Insiders podcast is brought to you by 2 00:00:02,839 --> 00:00:08,560 Titan Home Lending Ticket Smarter, Ghost Sleeves and Drew Fellios 3 00:00:08,599 --> 00:00:09,759 are Florida realtor. 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,439 Speaker 2: Enjoy the podcast. 5 00:00:15,439 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 3: A look at college football news, analysis and insight from 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,399 around the Sunshine Stage. This is Florida Football Insiders, a 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,640 part of the College Gridiron Coast to Coast podcast network, 8 00:00:27,719 --> 00:00:33,560 and here's your host, Jason Cowers. 9 00:00:33,799 --> 00:00:37,039 Speaker 1: Welcome in Florida Football Insiders podcast. 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 4: Hard to believe. We have reached week twelve the college 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,840 football season. College basketball seasons underway. 12 00:00:45,079 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: A bad, bad week in the state of Florida for 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,960 both the college and the NFL teams. Of the one, two, three, four, 14 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,000 seven of the ten Division one in NFL teams playing 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,280 football in the state of Florida, the Florida teams went 16 00:01:00,359 --> 00:01:04,359 one and nine, only to be salvaged by the Monday 17 00:01:04,439 --> 00:01:07,680 night victory of the Miami Dolphins out in Los Angeles. 18 00:01:07,719 --> 00:01:12,920 Hard to believe all seven all six college teams that 19 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,079 played Saturday, so actually one in eight. The six college 20 00:01:16,079 --> 00:01:19,120 teams that played Saturday all lost. The only team that 21 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,040 didn't lose was FIU, who was on a buy and 22 00:01:22,079 --> 00:01:24,799 then of the NFL team's bucks, Jags lose and the 23 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:29,079 Dolphins win, so one and eight combined record for the 24 00:01:29,159 --> 00:01:32,200 state of Florida in the in the world of football 25 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,319 on the on the weekend, hard to believe so, but 26 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,959 appreciate you finding us on the Florida Football Insiders podcast, 27 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,359 part of the College Great Iron Coast to Coast podcast network, 28 00:01:41,719 --> 00:01:43,519 got a good episode for you. We're gonna go to 29 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,719 Gainesville and we're gonna talk to Kevin Brockway, who covers 30 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:51,000 the Gators. We're gonna talk Gators deciding to keep Billy Napier, 31 00:01:51,239 --> 00:01:54,799 and just as important, we're gonna get into the burgeoning 32 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,599 scandal involving the Todd Golden and the basketball coach, So 33 00:01:58,719 --> 00:02:00,719 definitely want to stay tuned for them. That's gonna be 34 00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:04,159 some great insight that Kevin's gonna provide concerning the Todd 35 00:02:04,159 --> 00:02:07,239 Golden situation up in Gainesville, kind of what went into 36 00:02:07,239 --> 00:02:10,639 the decision to keep Billy Napier in the future of 37 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,560 the Florida football program and the basketball program as well. 38 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,560 So you'll you'll thoroughly enjoy that interview, even if you're 39 00:02:17,599 --> 00:02:20,000 not a Gator fan. You'll get some good insight into 40 00:02:20,039 --> 00:02:24,680 the Florida into the administration's decision not to suspend Todd 41 00:02:24,719 --> 00:02:28,800 Golden to keep Billy Napier and the like. So you'll 42 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,680 you'll enjoy that. But before we get to that, let's 43 00:02:31,719 --> 00:02:33,240 do a little recap around the state of Florida. 44 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 4: Again. 45 00:02:33,439 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: I told you it was not a great week in 46 00:02:35,759 --> 00:02:38,360 football history for the state of Florida. But let's go 47 00:02:38,439 --> 00:02:42,159 through the results. The biggest result, obviously was Miami getting 48 00:02:42,199 --> 00:02:45,879 stunned up in Atlanta at Georgia Tech, a fall twenty 49 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,080 eight to twenty three, fall to ninety one. On the year, 50 00:02:49,199 --> 00:02:51,599 cam Ward throws for three forty eight and three touchdowns. 51 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,479 Just again, you saw this coming for weeks now. Miami 52 00:02:54,479 --> 00:02:57,319 had been living on the edge of a potential upset 53 00:02:57,479 --> 00:03:02,639 Virginia Tech cal other games earlier in the year where 54 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,680 they just went down to the wire pretty much every 55 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,080 week in most all these games. They finally get burned 56 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,680 at Georgia Tech. Haines King plays well for Tech. Say 57 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,639 what you want. Though Miami had the ball with two 58 00:03:13,719 --> 00:03:16,520 minutes to go, they could have won the game. Cam 59 00:03:16,599 --> 00:03:19,960 Ward had the ball with strip sacked and fumbled on 60 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,639 a long scramble play, which ended up ending the opportunity 61 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,639 for Miami to keep their undefeated season. Be interesting to see. 62 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:35,120 The college football rankings just came out on Wednesday, so 63 00:03:35,199 --> 00:03:41,680 give me one second here, But again, the Caines still 64 00:03:41,719 --> 00:03:45,479 control their own destiny here. They are still very much 65 00:03:45,759 --> 00:03:47,439 where they need to be as far as if they 66 00:03:47,479 --> 00:03:49,599 went out, they're gonna be in the college football playoff. 67 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 4: Let me see here. 68 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,479 Speaker 1: Miami has dropped from three to four in the rankings, 69 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,479 but they are still in one of the by spots 70 00:03:58,199 --> 00:04:01,879 after the college football rankings came out on Tuesday night, 71 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,199 so they're still again, still control their own destiny. 72 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:05,879 Speaker 4: Three games left in the year. 73 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,759 Speaker 1: They're gonna have a bye week this week, and then 74 00:04:07,759 --> 00:04:09,240 they're gonna have wake Forest at home. 75 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 4: But again, if you're Miami, you've lived on the edge. 76 00:04:12,479 --> 00:04:15,159 Speaker 1: It's a loss is probably a good thing for these guys, 77 00:04:15,199 --> 00:04:18,560 to be honest with you. Hopefully they will refocus as 78 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,759 they head into their bye week, get healthy for the 79 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,480 stretch drive here for the last three games. But again, 80 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,079 if you excuse me, two games and then you'll have 81 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,519 the ACC championship game, you cannot afford another slip up, 82 00:04:29,519 --> 00:04:31,600 another loss, and I think Miami's out. I don't think 83 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,160 they're making it with two losses, so they can still 84 00:04:34,199 --> 00:04:36,319 they could have, they could have afforded a slip up. 85 00:04:36,319 --> 00:04:40,720 Hopefully they will get their their defense and order. The 86 00:04:40,759 --> 00:04:42,279 offense is good enough, they just need to get that 87 00:04:42,319 --> 00:04:44,879 defense in order a little bit there. So Miami was 88 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,319 the big stunner there, losing at Georgia Tech. USF, they 89 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,560 lose at They lose at home to Navy twenty eight 90 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,279 to seven. The Navy that the great year of Navy continues. 91 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,600 Byron Brown still out for the USF Bulls. Not sure 92 00:04:57,639 --> 00:04:59,839 what's going on there with that injury situation, but he 93 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,920 not play again. USF will head into a bye week 94 00:05:04,519 --> 00:05:07,800 as well at four and five, and then they got 95 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,519 a couple more games to wrap up their years. So 96 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,680 again just a little disappointing out of USF with especially 97 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:15,560 with no Byron Brown. 98 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:16,759 Speaker 4: But again Navy is a really. 99 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: Good football team and they continue their winning ways over 100 00:05:21,439 --> 00:05:24,839 South Florida twenty eight to seven Florida State and embarrassing 101 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,040 fifty two to three loss in South Bend in Notre Dame. 102 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 4: Just the disaster continues. One to nine. Big news out. 103 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: Of Tallahassee on Monday, they removed both offensive and defensive 104 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,879 coordinators on the staff and the wide receiver coach as well. 105 00:05:41,959 --> 00:05:45,120 Ron Dugan's the former Seminole wide receiver was let go. 106 00:05:45,319 --> 00:05:48,199 So not surprising if you're listening to my listening to 107 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,720 this podcast last week, I thought some major changes were 108 00:05:50,759 --> 00:05:54,959 coming on the coaching staff, and I was I was correct. 109 00:05:54,959 --> 00:05:56,720 They're out in front of it, getting out in front 110 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,040 of it early. Uh so they can obviously go out 111 00:05:59,079 --> 00:06:01,600 and hire some o the people on the front end 112 00:06:01,639 --> 00:06:03,600 here be ahead of the game as far as the 113 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,560 hiring process. But Florida State just is a disaster at 114 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,319 one and nine, just zero energy. The talent level is 115 00:06:10,399 --> 00:06:12,959 just not very good. The quarterback play has been horrific. 116 00:06:13,639 --> 00:06:16,360 Even with the guys that Norvelle recruited, which are his guys. 117 00:06:17,879 --> 00:06:20,040 That's that's to me, that's the alarming part is his 118 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,519 quarterbacks have shown little to nothing. And both those guys, 119 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,120 you know, Glenn has been there a couple of years, 120 00:06:27,439 --> 00:06:29,560 the other the other kids are freshman, so we'll give 121 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,920 him a little bit of a break, but especially Glenn, 122 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,199 and obviously we've seen what dj U has put on 123 00:06:35,199 --> 00:06:37,439 the field as far as production wise, as year has 124 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,519 just not been good. So I'm very concerned about the 125 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,399 Florida State offense and the player development that's going on 126 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,600 up there. But again one in nine, two games to go, 127 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,000 you got Charleston Southern. They're gonna be off this week 128 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,560 as well, Florida State. You got Charleston Southern, then the 129 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,839 Gators to end the year. So more calamity if you're 130 00:06:53,879 --> 00:06:58,199 up in Tallahassee there. So the Gators coming off the 131 00:06:58,199 --> 00:07:00,800 announcement that Billy Napier will return for a fourth year, 132 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,879 they head to Texas, they get their their their their 133 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,800 heads bashed in forty nine to seventeen by the Longhorns. 134 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,000 You kind of saw this one coming. No Dj Lagway 135 00:07:10,079 --> 00:07:12,839 playing the third string quarterback, playing Texas coming off of 136 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,360 a bye week, you had a feeling this was gonna 137 00:07:15,399 --> 00:07:19,480 potentially be ugly, and it was. Texas thoroughly dominated the game. 138 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,279 Quinn Ewers played really well. I think five touchdown passes 139 00:07:23,279 --> 00:07:25,920 just something you probably saw coming after the hard fought, 140 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,680 heartbreaking loss to Georgia. The week before, the Gators will 141 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,399 come home, will play Lsues coming off a loss. This 142 00:07:34,439 --> 00:07:36,079 is an opportunity I think for the Gators. 143 00:07:36,319 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 4: Again, we don't know Dj. 144 00:07:37,399 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: Lagways has I would not expect Dj Lagway to be playing. 145 00:07:40,759 --> 00:07:43,399 Why would you play DJ Lagway at this point and 146 00:07:43,639 --> 00:07:46,480 risk further injury. I would not play him another down 147 00:07:46,519 --> 00:07:49,519 this year, especially now that you know Billy Napier's coming back. 148 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 4: But LSU comes to town. 149 00:07:52,279 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: This is they got LSU, Ole Miss, and then Florida 150 00:07:54,639 --> 00:07:56,439 State gotta win two out of those three to get 151 00:07:56,439 --> 00:07:57,199 Bowl eligible. 152 00:07:58,279 --> 00:08:00,399 Speaker 4: I still think it'll be a tall order. 153 00:08:00,319 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: To do that, but LSU's probably the better option to 154 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,079 beat than Old Misses given what Old miss did to 155 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,279 Georgia last week. So if you're gonna win a game, Billy, 156 00:08:09,319 --> 00:08:10,720 this is the one you gotta try to win. 157 00:08:10,759 --> 00:08:13,319 Speaker 4: Obviously, you're still probably gonna be playing your third string quarterback. 158 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:13,839 I get it. 159 00:08:14,399 --> 00:08:18,319 Speaker 1: But LSU is your opportunity I think to potentially get 160 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,920 Bowl eligible because again you got Florida State at the 161 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,680 end that you can probably win that game, but you 162 00:08:23,839 --> 00:08:25,800 never know when that in that kind of game. But 163 00:08:25,839 --> 00:08:29,040 Florida State again falls to four and five and again 164 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,879 home to LSU. This weekend Saturday three thirty in Gainesville, 165 00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:35,200 UCF falls to. 166 00:08:35,159 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 4: Four and six. 167 00:08:35,759 --> 00:08:38,159 Speaker 1: They fall at Arizona State thirty five thirty one. Very 168 00:08:38,279 --> 00:08:40,960 entertaining game. I watched a decent amount of that game. 169 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,720 Back and forth game again, it seems like they found 170 00:08:45,759 --> 00:08:48,720 a quarterback. Quarterbacks got them moving a little bit. R. J. 171 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,879 Harvey is still playing well, but again Malasan falls to 172 00:08:51,919 --> 00:08:54,519 four and six and the Knights. They will have a 173 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,440 bye week this week as well, with two games to 174 00:08:56,519 --> 00:08:59,960 go there. Fau falls to two and seven. They lose 175 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,279 on Thursday night last week at East Carolina they get 176 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,919 blown out forty nine to fourteen. They will be on 177 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,360 the road this week at Temple. They fall to two 178 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,399 and seven and FIU, who was off last week. At 179 00:09:11,399 --> 00:09:14,720 three and six, they head to Jacksonville State to see 180 00:09:14,879 --> 00:09:18,679 rich Rod and the game Cocks up there in Jacksonville, Alabama. 181 00:09:18,799 --> 00:09:21,360 Not far from where I used to live, but Jacksonville 182 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,159 State has had a really good year with rich Rod 183 00:09:24,159 --> 00:09:28,960 sou Mike McIntyre and company head up to Jacksonville, Alabama 184 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,200 at three and six to face the game Cocks of 185 00:09:33,639 --> 00:09:34,519 Jacksonville State. 186 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 4: So there's your college recap again. 187 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: Everybody loses in the state of Florida on the college side, 188 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:39,720 except for. 189 00:09:39,759 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 4: FIU, who was off to the NFL. You have. Let's 190 00:09:43,519 --> 00:09:46,320 highlight the winner first. Let's highlight the Dolphins. Nice job. 191 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,759 Speaker 1: Going out to Los Angeles on Monday night, they moved 192 00:09:48,759 --> 00:09:50,639 to three and six. They beat the Rams twenty three 193 00:09:50,639 --> 00:09:52,840 to fifteen, hold the Rams out of the end zone 194 00:09:52,879 --> 00:09:56,080 to five field goals. The defense played really well. The 195 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,159 offense was good, not great. With two in this third 196 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,480 week back, Tyreek Hill scores. They score on their opening drive, 197 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,039 so you know, nice, nice response. Miami's not out of 198 00:10:07,039 --> 00:10:09,080 it in the ANFC. They got a chance here. If 199 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,320 they could go nine and eight, they would have to 200 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,720 go six and two down the stretch. Their schedule is manageable, 201 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,360 they could potentially. I think they're still in it for 202 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,720 the for the seventh wildcard spot in the AFC. I 203 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,840 think the offense is getting a little bit better every 204 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,519 week with two of coming back. The defense is playing better, 205 00:10:25,399 --> 00:10:28,600 So I think this is gonna be a live team 206 00:10:28,639 --> 00:10:30,639 here the next month. If they can go on a 207 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,480 run here the next month and win three to four 208 00:10:32,519 --> 00:10:34,919 in a row, I think Miami has still has an 209 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,799 outside chance for that seventh seed in the AFC, because 210 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,279 that seventh seed is gonna probably come down to Miami Cincinnati. 211 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,480 You're gonna have a team at nine and eight. It's 212 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,360 gonna make it in the AFC, so I think Miami 213 00:10:45,399 --> 00:10:47,399 has a shot here if they can put a little 214 00:10:47,399 --> 00:10:49,679 streak together to get a little role here. I think 215 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,000 Miami's got a chance. With the schedule, They've got to 216 00:10:52,039 --> 00:10:55,360 get to nine and eight on the year. Jacksonville falls 217 00:10:55,399 --> 00:10:57,759 to two and eight. They lose that home to Minnesota. 218 00:10:57,799 --> 00:11:01,240 Remember no Trevor Lawrence. Mac Jones starts defensive game. They 219 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,240 lose twelve seven to Minnesota. A lot of turnovers in 220 00:11:04,279 --> 00:11:07,320 this game for both teams, but the Jags are just 221 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,399 in free fall again. I think this is obviously probably 222 00:11:10,399 --> 00:11:12,159 gonna be the end of the line for Doug Peterson. 223 00:11:12,919 --> 00:11:15,039 Don't know the status of Trevor Lawrence again for this 224 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:19,279 week with the shoulder injury. There's no need to rush 225 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:20,960 him back. If you're gonna lose, you might as well 226 00:11:21,039 --> 00:11:25,039 keep losing to improve your draft stock. Mac Jones eh not, 227 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,960 you know, not not great in his debut with the Jags. 228 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,840 They will head to Detroit this week again, Detroit coming 229 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,679 off a dramatic win on Monday. On Sunday night in 230 00:11:36,759 --> 00:11:38,879 Houston again the doll I forgot to mention, the Dolphins 231 00:11:38,879 --> 00:11:41,399 will be home to Las Vegas again, a very winnable 232 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,519 game but Vegas is coming off a bye, so be 233 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,720 careful there there. But the Jags will head to Detroit, 234 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,480 probably another beat down up in the Motor City with 235 00:11:51,639 --> 00:11:54,279 how well that Detroit Lions team. Last team want to 236 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,759 hit on is Tampa Bay Buccaneers lose a heartbreaker heading 237 00:11:57,799 --> 00:12:00,000 into their by to the forty nine Ers twenty three 238 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,799 twenty fall to four and six. I mean, just a 239 00:12:02,919 --> 00:12:07,080 terrible two terrible losses and heartbreaking losses in a row. 240 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,279 Coming off the Monday night heartbreaker in Kansas City, you 241 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,799 lose at home to San Francisco. Moody kicks a game 242 00:12:13,799 --> 00:12:15,600 winning field goal in the last play of the game 243 00:12:15,759 --> 00:12:18,679 after he missed three field goals. The Bucks have first 244 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,159 and goal at the seven at the two minute warning 245 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,919 to win the game, and they three did not like 246 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,679 the three play calls on that sequence to end up 247 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,440 having to kick a field goal to tie the game. 248 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 4: That was not a did not. 249 00:12:31,879 --> 00:12:35,879 Speaker 1: Love that play sequence at all for the Bucks. And 250 00:12:35,919 --> 00:12:38,759 then at the end there obviously Purty's gonna drive him 251 00:12:38,759 --> 00:12:40,480 down the field, get him in the field goal range. 252 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,879 Todd bowles three timeouts in his pocket, doesn't call a 253 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,200 timeout in the last play of the game to even 254 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,759 ice the kicker at all, who's already missed three kicks. 255 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,639 You saw the little scuffle on the sideline between Debo 256 00:12:52,039 --> 00:12:54,080 and the snapper and the kicker during the game after 257 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,320 the third miss. Why Todd Bowles doesn't call time out 258 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,279 there on the last play of the game and takes 259 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,519 three timeouts into the locker room with him, I have 260 00:13:01,639 --> 00:13:05,399 no idea he doesn't. Moody makes the fourth kick. The 261 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,480 Bucks will lose twenty three to twenty head to their 262 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,039 bye week again, look at the Bucks schedule. I know, 263 00:13:10,039 --> 00:13:12,440 at four and six you think it doesn't look good, 264 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,720 But if you look at the Bucks schedule, they've got 265 00:13:14,799 --> 00:13:19,679 Carolina twice, the Giants, the Raiders, the Cowboys, the Saints, 266 00:13:20,279 --> 00:13:24,039 six teams they will be favored, favored against absolutely and 267 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,480 then one game at the Chargers, which is a which 268 00:13:26,519 --> 00:13:29,080 is a toss up game, probably will be an underdog, 269 00:13:29,159 --> 00:13:31,559 but a winnable game. Mike Evans is supposed to be 270 00:13:31,639 --> 00:13:35,440 back after the bye again. The defense has just not 271 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,679 been very good. They've got to figure out a way 272 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:38,720 to at least be average. 273 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 4: They've not. 274 00:13:39,639 --> 00:13:42,919 Speaker 1: They actually didn't play terrible against San Francisco. They held 275 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,159 them to twenty three which is pretty good. But they've 276 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,039 got to figure out way to get some more turnovers 277 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:52,360 and some more sacks. This whether schematics, personnel, whatever, They've 278 00:13:52,399 --> 00:13:54,080 got to figure out a way to be better on defense. 279 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,919 Because the offense, I think is gonna be good enough. 280 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,639 With their schedule, they should easily. They should go one, 281 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,639 five and two at the absolute worst. Nine and eight 282 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:07,519 ought to be nine and eight, absolute worst in the NFC. 283 00:14:07,799 --> 00:14:09,480 Will that be good enough to get to get the 284 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:12,080 six or seven seed. We'll see six and one will 285 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,039 get them in. If they go six and one, they're 286 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,600 ten and seven, they're gonna make the playoffs again. Carolina twice, Raiders, 287 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:24,000 New Orleans, Dallas, the Giants six games you have to win. 288 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,039 If you're the Buccaneers, you have to win these games. 289 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,399 And I would expect them to have a good effort 290 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,039 after the bye. Get healthy again, Evans comes back. That 291 00:14:32,159 --> 00:14:35,120 changes a lot on offense, the dynamic and the coverages. 292 00:14:36,879 --> 00:14:39,799 But Bucks gotta go on a run here at four 293 00:14:39,799 --> 00:14:42,279 and six. Tough, tough loss the last two weeks at 294 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,320 Kansas City home to San Francisco, two games they could 295 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,559 have won, they lose them both. 296 00:14:47,759 --> 00:14:48,519 Speaker 4: Coaching was not. 297 00:14:48,519 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: The best game management not the best. That's again my 298 00:14:52,039 --> 00:14:54,559 biggest complaint with Todd Bowles has been the game management 299 00:14:54,679 --> 00:14:58,120 component of things has not been good, good enough and 300 00:14:58,399 --> 00:14:59,720 in costing his team. 301 00:14:59,559 --> 00:15:01,159 Speaker 4: Opportunity news to win football game. 302 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: So all right, Florida Football Insiders Podcast, appreciate you finding 303 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,159 us at on x at JPO Sports is my Twitter handle. 304 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,080 Reach out love to hear from you. If you haven't 305 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,000 already done so, subscribe, rate and review Kevin Brockway coming 306 00:15:14,039 --> 00:15:16,000 up from the Gainesville Sun here in just a minute. 307 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,559 Remember check out the Powers on Sports podcast. Check out 308 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,480 Pressbox Radio dot com. 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So again, 328 00:16:24,799 --> 00:16:29,559 the military academies are doing great. Army undefeated, Navy still 329 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,039 doing very well. Potentially could have an Army Navy American 330 00:16:33,039 --> 00:16:36,480 Conference championship game and then the following week play again, 331 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,879 so we'll see how that unfolds because Army is now undefeated. 332 00:16:39,919 --> 00:16:41,559 But they do have to go to Notre Dame here 333 00:16:42,159 --> 00:16:44,679 in a couple of weeks, which will be awesome to 334 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,440 see that drama of that game. So again, appreciate you 335 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:53,000 finding us Florida Football Insiders Podcast. Enjoy Kevin Brockway Gainesville 336 00:16:53,039 --> 00:16:57,360 Sun talking all things Billy Napier and Todd Golden. 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Appreciate you finding us. 392 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,119 Now we're gonna head up to Gainesville. 393 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: We had a lot We've had a lot of news 394 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,319 coming out of Gainesville, both on the football side and 395 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,680 now the basketball side, with what's going on with coach 396 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,440 Todd Golden and no pet of person who's right there 397 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,279 in the middle of it, writing about it, covering it, UH, 398 00:20:23,319 --> 00:20:26,279 sourcing it and all the all the rest. Kevin Brockway, 399 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,880 Gainesville Sun regular here on the podcast. 400 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:29,519 Speaker 4: Kevin. 401 00:20:29,559 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: Welcome back, sir. 402 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 5: It's good to be back with you. Thanks for having 403 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:33,160 me on. 404 00:20:34,039 --> 00:20:36,839 Speaker 1: All right, so an adventurous couple of weeks up in Gainesville, 405 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,400 for sure. Let's start off with let's start off with 406 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,759 the Todd Golden situation. Obviously, this kind of the news 407 00:20:44,839 --> 00:20:47,359 kind of broke, you know, middle of last week about 408 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,960 the you know, the allegations and that stuff with the 409 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,799 student newspaper, UH, with reporting that. How did how does 410 00:20:53,839 --> 00:20:56,160 it in a city like Gainesville, a little tight knit 411 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,519 community college town, how does that stuff get? I mean, 412 00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:02,400 did was there any whiff of this coming down the 413 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,920 pipe before the the before the student newspaper broke it? 414 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,039 Speaker 2: How does that kind of stuff work in your world? 415 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 5: Well, we had heard some rumblings in the spring, and 416 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,119 then we heard it was resolved, and then obviously some 417 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,359 things percolated up until last week. I can't get into 418 00:21:18,599 --> 00:21:22,599 too much the specifics of my reporting, but I can 419 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,359 tell you that you know, it was an on and 420 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,680 off situation throughout the fall that you know, you started 421 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,480 to hear some things here and there. But that being said, 422 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,039 you know, I think going forward, you know, obviously very 423 00:21:37,079 --> 00:21:40,839 troubling allegations, but allegations, and you know, there's there's a 424 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,680 chance for due process. I think Florida, you know, obviously 425 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,079 not suspending him. That's a little hard to read. There 426 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,119 is a Title nine policy right now that basically says 427 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:59,200 that you know, that prohibits schools from you know, handing 428 00:21:59,279 --> 00:22:02,880 out on fair you know, penalties for those of the 429 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:05,920 rights of the accused. So that could possibly be a reason, 430 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,480 although I couldn't get Florida necessarily confirm that as a reason. 431 00:22:10,039 --> 00:22:13,480 But he is still coaching, and we you know, we 432 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,440 we addressed the situation where the Monday night he stood 433 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,480 by his statement, which is that he you know, was 434 00:22:17,519 --> 00:22:22,640 engaging in a defamation lawyer, and you know, offered a 435 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,359 few you know, the question that I asked really was, 436 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,359 you know, what's your message to women fans, And you know, 437 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,680 his response was basically, you know, keep supporting us, let 438 00:22:32,759 --> 00:22:35,680 do process play out. We did a fans story as well, 439 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,599 and it seemed like the fan reaction was mixed. They 440 00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:40,880 seem to want to know more, and they're not really 441 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,400 going to know more until the investigation is complete. So 442 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,920 I think that's kind of where we are at this point. 443 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: From the just again from the fan in me looking 444 00:22:49,799 --> 00:22:52,400 at the situation again, I'm not in it at all, 445 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,240 don't have any vested interest in any any any any 446 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:55,480 of it. 447 00:22:55,599 --> 00:22:57,319 Speaker 2: So a couple of things that were surprising. 448 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: One, you didn't hear Todman Golden come out and say categorically, 449 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,559 I did not do this, this is not I'm not 450 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,160 involved in this at any level. 451 00:23:05,559 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 2: That was not said. 452 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,799 Speaker 1: And regardless of what a lawyer wants you to say, 453 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,160 if you're one hundred percent innocent, you would say that 454 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,240 if you were the head basketball coach, I would think, 455 00:23:14,519 --> 00:23:17,200 or a high profile figure in a situation like this, 456 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,279 with the allegations that are coming out about what they 457 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:21,799 you know, we're being alleged. 458 00:23:21,839 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: So that's number one to me. 459 00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: You didn't hear Todd Golden say that, and I thought 460 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,279 that was a little bit odd as well. 461 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I do think that him by you know, his 462 00:23:31,079 --> 00:23:35,559 social media statement on Saturday, which he stood by, you know, 463 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:40,079 retaining a engaging in the defamation lawyer, I think somewhat 464 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,599 says that, but you know, maybe not to the strength 465 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:43,480 that people want to hear. 466 00:23:44,319 --> 00:23:44,519 Speaker 4: Right. 467 00:23:45,039 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: The next thing is, I would say what. 468 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: Again another part just again from me from my point 469 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,720 of view as a fan. I was shocked that they 470 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,240 allowed him to coach Monday night against Grambling. I mean, 471 00:23:56,279 --> 00:23:58,799 I know there's due process, but they could have put 472 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,920 him unpaid, administrator leave or whatever. I'm shocked that, you 473 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,200 know that he walked out there was the coach on 474 00:24:05,279 --> 00:24:05,839 Monday night. 475 00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 5: Again. Yeah, and I thought that that might have been 476 00:24:09,039 --> 00:24:11,839 due to the Title nine policy, the change in Title 477 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,599 nine policy where maybe they couldn't spend okay because of 478 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,680 that rule providing more rights for the accused. And if 479 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,720 you look it up, it came in at twenty twenty. Now, 480 00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:24,920 they still could have suspended him if they felt that 481 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,400 he was a threat to someone's health or safety. Sure 482 00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:31,279 that under that rule, but it sets the bar pretty high. 483 00:24:31,599 --> 00:24:34,680 So I mean that's a possibility. But again I couldn't 484 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,759 get Florida confirm it. But you know, listen, you know 485 00:24:38,839 --> 00:24:42,480 Florida also has a slogan, you know, on its walls, 486 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,319 the Championship Experience with Integrity. So I do think, you know, 487 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,400 I could see both sides of it, And I could 488 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,119 see some fans are saying, like, hey, why not you know, 489 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,519 until this thing plays out? Why I put them on 490 00:24:53,559 --> 00:24:57,359 paid administrative leave because of how it reflects on the program. 491 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,720 I mean, there are two sides of it, and I 492 00:24:58,720 --> 00:24:59,640 could see both sides of it. 493 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: From Scott Strickland's perspective. Is this a very dangerous line 494 00:25:04,519 --> 00:25:07,400 he's toting here because if this blows up in his 495 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,400 face and Todd Golden is you know, if it turns 496 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,000 out that Todd Golden is guilty of something to this 497 00:25:14,039 --> 00:25:16,759 degree and they have to remove and Scott Strickland kind 498 00:25:16,759 --> 00:25:20,799 of didn't jump out on the forefront of is this 499 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,200 potentially a problem for Scott Strickland moving forward as well? 500 00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 5: Well, you would have to think, with everything else that's 501 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:32,240 going on, it probably is. And I think that, you know, 502 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,559 I would say that, you know, but I think they 503 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,839 think and I don't know if they've done any kind 504 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,559 of internal investigation on this. Maybe they have, maybe they haven't, 505 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,960 and if they have, maybe they feel confident that the 506 00:25:46,079 --> 00:25:50,759 allegations are not truthful. They're certainly going all in on it, 507 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,240 and of course, you know, not to mention Todd's success 508 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,480 as a basketball coach, the fact that he has the 509 00:25:56,519 --> 00:25:59,960 program on an upper trajectory. It made the nca Tournament 510 00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:04,119 last year. You know you would you would wonder if 511 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,920 this was coming off two n I t years if 512 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,720 it would be different as well. But I do think 513 00:26:09,759 --> 00:26:13,880 that certainly, Uh you know, it's I think for Scott, Yeah, 514 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,759 a little nervous because and and also because, like I said, 515 00:26:16,799 --> 00:26:19,759 Todd Golden has probably been one of his best hires 516 00:26:19,799 --> 00:26:22,799 if you look at it, certainly with the way the 517 00:26:22,839 --> 00:26:25,039 way the situation that Billy is going down, and if 518 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,200 if this scandal persists, and and if these allegations are 519 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,880 found to be true, it's gonna be another black mark 520 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:31,720 on Scott's resume. 521 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: And and then and then well then we'll transition to 522 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:40,079 back to football. Because there's a line here, very coincidental. 523 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,759 I don't know if it was coincidental, if it was intentional. 524 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,720 Last Thursday is when the when the when the note 525 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,960 came out about Billy Napier coming back, which create a 526 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,519 little stability. I'm sure Again, who knows if there's any 527 00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:55,440 correlation to this, but just funny how the next day 528 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,720 is when the Todd Golden stuff really hit the media. Hard. 529 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,079 He thought that there might have been a was there 530 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,799 any was there any lean to keeping Billy Napier because 531 00:27:05,839 --> 00:27:07,839 of maybe what was going on with Todd Golden or 532 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,440 those two completely separate decisions. 533 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 5: I think there were separate decisions, but I think it 534 00:27:13,519 --> 00:27:17,000 was more because of the result on Saturday, the Texas game. 535 00:27:17,079 --> 00:27:19,880 I think they knew that was coming, you know, because 536 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,599 they're they're playing their third string quarterback and then kind 537 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,279 of playing a game with DJ Lagway. But I think 538 00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:27,680 people close to the program really knew that. You know, listen, 539 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,559 there's a Grade one, two three hamstring with with DJ Lagway. 540 00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:33,279 I mean, I was followed by my people that you know, 541 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,559 he's probably not going to be back until Florida State. 542 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,599 So you know, you're going into that game with the 543 00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:40,839 third string quarterback, you're really hanged up. I think they 544 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,319 knew that that result was going to be ugly, and 545 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,920 they wanted to get out in the forefront of that 546 00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:48,240 because you're coming off a game in Georgia where you know, listen, 547 00:27:48,319 --> 00:27:51,359 Florida gave put forth a good effort, and you're doing 548 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,119 it for recruiting too, especially moving up on December fourth, 549 00:27:55,839 --> 00:27:59,440 You're trying to create some stability that way, and look Scott, 550 00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:04,400 you know again in that situation too. You know he 551 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,039 he doesn't. I think he's holding on to the fact 552 00:28:08,079 --> 00:28:10,759 that that Billy Napier can turn things around. I mean, 553 00:28:10,759 --> 00:28:14,559 they have invested a lot in that freshman and sophomore class, 554 00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:16,720 and he would be worried that if you got rid 555 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,759 of the coach, that would all blow up and including 556 00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:22,359 losing DJ Lagway, who listen, when he's healthy, has shown 557 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,440 signs of promise as a quarterback. I mean really, you know, 558 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,920 an impressive way to throw the deep ball. But you know, 559 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,920 my concern going forward to DJ Lagway is now he's 560 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,960 got a track record or history of being injury prone. 561 00:28:35,039 --> 00:28:37,559 So you know, like can you count on him for 562 00:28:37,559 --> 00:28:39,200 a full season next year? That's gonna be one of 563 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,599 the questions with this regime if he comes back as well, 564 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,160 but can you count them as a dual threat quarterback 565 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,680 and you know, get a you know, you know, injury 566 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,920 s hamstring again or do something. You know, can he 567 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,559 make it their season? But it's gonna be it's gonna 568 00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:57,319 be interesting and to see, you know, going forward on 569 00:28:57,319 --> 00:29:00,559 the football side, how they handle this. And obviously you've 570 00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:03,880 got two straight ranked teams in Florida State, which is 571 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:09,039 obviously another program really in dire straits. But I think that, 572 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,200 you know, if there's any chance of them making a 573 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,720 Bowl game, I think they're gonna have to beat LSU. 574 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,680 I don't see him being o miss he at the 575 00:29:16,759 --> 00:29:18,720 end of the season. You get to six wins maybe. 576 00:29:19,359 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: And I made the argument last week in the last 577 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,799 couple of weeks that if Napier wasn't retained, I thought 578 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,200 DJ Lagway could be the most coveted free agent in 579 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,240 the country in the transfer portal theoretically because of what 580 00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:32,000 he's shown in his limited time that he has played. 581 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:37,039 Speaker 5: Oh for sure. Yeah no. And I know that there 582 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,079 there are rumblings and a certain program down south that's losing. 583 00:29:40,119 --> 00:29:44,640 Cam Ward would have when Texas Texas A and M 584 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,240 would probably go after back to his home state where 585 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,559 he's near Willis, Texas. So I think that all that 586 00:29:50,599 --> 00:29:54,079 goes into play. Yeah no, I agree with you. So 587 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,279 I think that's that was another reason why they decided 588 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,039 to give Billy no all right, look four years a 589 00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:06,880 full recruiting cycle. It's fair, yep. But I really do 590 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,799 have to question uh, Billy and his staff recruiting and 591 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,440 that the track record in the last two years is 592 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,079 he's shown that he can't build the he can't build 593 00:30:16,119 --> 00:30:18,200 a roster that would stands the rigors of the SEC. 594 00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:21,839 Guys are getting injured all the time, and uh, you know, 595 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,480 like I said, you know that the physicality of this league, 596 00:30:24,599 --> 00:30:26,799 you gotta have guys that are durable, and and that 597 00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:28,519 has not shown to be the case the last couple 598 00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:29,000 of years. 599 00:30:29,799 --> 00:30:32,319 Speaker 1: Is there any chance if things were to get really 600 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,440 ugly the next three weeks, and let's say you lose 601 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,119 to Florida State as well, is there any chance they 602 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,279 changed their mind? Scott's trickling in the administration or is 603 00:30:40,279 --> 00:30:42,799 that or is that pretty much? We think it's he's 604 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,799 He's gonna survive no matter what happens. 605 00:30:45,359 --> 00:30:48,799 Speaker 5: Based on everything I'm hearing my sources, he's all in 606 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,240 on Billy regardless. I mean, I think the view of 607 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,359 the rest of the season is basically a wash because 608 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,279 of all the injuries and because of you know, the 609 00:30:58,319 --> 00:31:00,480 hand he's been dealt, and and you know, of losing 610 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,119 your top two quarterbacks, Yeah that they're gonna you know, 611 00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:07,799 uh press forward in twenty twenty five and and you know, 612 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,640 uh be pretty intentional with nil and in the transfer 613 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,880 portal market and try to build the rest best roster. 614 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:15,680 They can't. 615 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,799 Speaker 1: And in the Billy's credit, give him credit up to 616 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,119 last week obviously with the third until you got to 617 00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:24,160 the third stree court, they were super competitive Tennessee Georgia. 618 00:31:24,519 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 2: I mean they they probably that Georgia game, they probably 619 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,079 I would say, gonna win the game. 620 00:31:29,079 --> 00:31:31,279 Speaker 1: But that game goes to the wire in that in 621 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,440 Jacksonville with lagways in the game, if not, Florida wins 622 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:35,640 the game because they were. 623 00:31:35,519 --> 00:31:38,039 Speaker 2: Beating Georgia pretty good there for the first two quarters. 624 00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:40,279 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, obviously that game changes when when 625 00:31:40,319 --> 00:31:42,799 Aiden Warner has to come into play. But but to 626 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,559 his credit, he's galvanized that team and they've continued to 627 00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:48,319 play hard for him. Whether they're talented enough, whether he's 628 00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:50,799 coaching them up enough, that's a different question. But the 629 00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:53,799 effort level, you can't you can't dispute the effort level, right. 630 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, No, the one thing, Yeah, Billy has lots of 631 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,960 locker room, I can tell you that. And in talking 632 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,119 to players and even parents around the program, they believe 633 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,240 in him with regards to what he's trying to build. 634 00:32:09,319 --> 00:32:12,400 But that being said, that's you know, only you know 635 00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:14,640 it results or results. I mean, and he's two and 636 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,839 fourteen against ranked teams and uh, you know his only 637 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,400 one win against Arrival and that was Tennessee last year. 638 00:32:21,799 --> 00:32:23,200 I mean, the results are going to have to pick 639 00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:25,839 up and he will be honest, the seats going into 640 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:26,799 year four for sure. 641 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: Do you anticipate any coaching changes O C D C 642 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,279 kind of situation or do you think that's good He's 643 00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:35,400 going to try to stabilize there and just keep keep development. 644 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,799 Speaker 4: How do you how do you see the coaching staff? 645 00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 5: I think they'll be I think they'll be changes, but 646 00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:42,920 we will see. You know, something I wrote about yesterday 647 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,920 was the OC situation and whether I think a lot 648 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,759 of people are wondering whether you know this fourth year 649 00:32:50,839 --> 00:32:52,519 came with conditions that he had to get no C. 650 00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:55,359 But you know we heard that last year too, and 651 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,480 we heard Willie Korn's name floated from Liberty and nothing 652 00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:00,839 came of it, and Billy held on to the plays. 653 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,720 And you know the reason why was basically he talked 654 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,839 about his his chemistry, Mergs the offense could really take off. Well, 655 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,200 you know, Merch had an injury aroundage year it didn't 656 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,799 work out, but you know, next year he might say 657 00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:15,000 the same thing. Look, I've got this chemistry with Lagway. 658 00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:16,960 Look at what we did when Lagway was in there. 659 00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:20,559 So I think Billy has proven that he really wants 660 00:33:20,599 --> 00:33:23,000 to hold on into play calling and that's going to 661 00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:26,000 be an interesting fight. And I don't think necessarily that 662 00:33:26,079 --> 00:33:28,720 it's a done deal that he's going to give it up. 663 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,279 And that could have happened. Yeah, it could happen, But 664 00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:32,960 I don't think that this you know, message you know, 665 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,799 the message board rumor mill that you know, it's a 666 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,400 it's a foregone conclusion, isn't accurate. 667 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: Last two questions, I'll get you out of here. What's 668 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,519 the sentiment around Gainsville with the fans, the public? You know, 669 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,960 you're out in the grocery store and restaurants. What do 670 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,279 you get is the sense of they they make the 671 00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:52,119 decision to bring Billy back. What's kind of the sentiment? 672 00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 4: Uh? 673 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: And in the public opinion. 674 00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, some frustration and bewilderment and some that are saying, oh, well, 675 00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:04,000 you know, they did look pretty good, uh with Lagway. 676 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,039 You know in terms of you know, Whending was healthy 677 00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:09,880 and maybe give them time it's it's pretty mixed. I 678 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,519 would say, you know, fifty to fifty in regards to that, 679 00:34:13,559 --> 00:34:17,880 but there is a still a large contingent that doesn't 680 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,960 think Billy is up for the job. And uh, like, 681 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,880 like I said, we're gonna continue to see how it 682 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,480 plays out. It's gonna be uh, it'll be an interesting 683 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,400 fourth year to stay the least, but he is definitely 684 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,719 gonna be uh under the gun to uh have a 685 00:34:32,079 --> 00:34:33,719 have a wedding and a productive season. 686 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,079 Speaker 2: And here and here's the other part that people don't realize. 687 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,119 Speaker 1: The you have to weigh would you rather if you're 688 00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:40,960 gonna if you're gonna buy Billy nape you're out. It's 689 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,079 gonna cost you probably twenty million bucks something like that 690 00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:44,159 something in that neighborhood. 691 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 2: Would you rather invest that money in nil. 692 00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:49,119 Speaker 1: To some degree for a year or would you rather 693 00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:50,880 pay Billy Napier not to be the coach and then 694 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,760 have to do that? And so there's a there's some 695 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,239 financial decisions and way that you have to make if 696 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,719 you're the university as well, that's part of this equation 697 00:34:58,880 --> 00:34:59,280 as well. 698 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,559 Speaker 4: How is it to get give the. 699 00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 2: Audience a little sense of just the strength of the 700 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,599 NIL program at Florida compared to some other places. 701 00:35:06,599 --> 00:35:09,639 Speaker 5: It's getting there, but is it as good as the heavyweights? 702 00:35:09,679 --> 00:35:11,639 That's what I've always wondered, you know. I mean, Ohio 703 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,000 State has set the bar right at twenty million, right, 704 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,440 so I think that, uh, it's in better shape than 705 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,199 it was a few years ago. But it's always, like 706 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:23,920 I said, it's always in comparison to the rest of 707 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,920 the SEC, you know, and is it is it where 708 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,440 it needs to be to compete in that conference? And 709 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,440 I would say that it's there's there's probably you know, 710 00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:37,000 like I said, there's there's probably some. 711 00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 2: There's room to grow. There's room to. 712 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 5: Grow there, there's some progress there, but it's still is 713 00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:47,840 ongoing progress. And you know, you've got to like, you know, 714 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,559 you've got they they've really got to work on particular 715 00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:54,480 this offseason, uh, you know, upgrading the talents turned there 716 00:35:54,559 --> 00:35:56,840 and upgrading the depth. Really, I think that's the thing. 717 00:35:57,599 --> 00:35:59,079 Speaker 1: And do you think the NI L is a is 718 00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:01,760 a director reflection of the coach, meaning if they had 719 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,400 a high flying, you know, Lane Kiffin kind of guy 720 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,519 that NIL would exploit, would be as plentiful as it 721 00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:08,880 need to be. 722 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:09,679 Speaker 4: Or do you think it's just. 723 00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 2: A not a booster booster problem. 724 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 5: I think it's a combination both. I mean, I think 725 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,159 it's hard for some of the boosters to get behind 726 00:36:19,159 --> 00:36:24,119 the program. I think it's a cultural uh situation too, 727 00:36:24,559 --> 00:36:27,480 because this was always a program the last twenty years 728 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,719 that prided itself on compliance. You know, they were right. 729 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,480 So I think even getting uh you know, and I've 730 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,639 talked to some people involved in that al in Florida. 731 00:36:38,639 --> 00:36:41,559 Even even convincing or getting people to realize, hey, this 732 00:36:41,639 --> 00:36:44,840 is the way to go now is uh has been 733 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,400 a little bit of a paradigm shift, and some you know, 734 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,280 boosters haven't warmed up to it as much as others. 735 00:36:50,519 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: All Right, last question on basketball, and you're out of here. 736 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,679 Where does Florida go from here? Let's say Todd Golden 737 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,239 stays the coach. How do you think that this whole 738 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,440 thing is going to affect the program? And just give 739 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,920 us a quick little synopsis of the Gators as they've 740 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,079 played a couple of games now again a lot of 741 00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:07,280 a lot of expectation, a lot of hope this year. 742 00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:10,920 Give us a quick little update on the Gator roster. Yeah. 743 00:37:11,039 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 5: No, I think Todd did a pretty good job in 744 00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:15,039 the transfer portal. Again, I look at these guys Sam 745 00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:17,840 Alexis and Rubin Shinielu and Elijah Martin, and they've all 746 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,840 been productive in different aspects. To the first three games 747 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,119 the season, I think the roster is a little more athletic, 748 00:37:26,159 --> 00:37:30,119 a little bit of a better defensive roscar, and then offensively, 749 00:37:30,159 --> 00:37:33,159 I think it's different guys different nights. Walter Clayton running 750 00:37:33,199 --> 00:37:35,440 the point will be interesting to see through the course 751 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,960 of the season. You know, he you know, certainly when 752 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,920 when you look at the guy like Zion Pullhen last 753 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,880 year he was one of the you know, steadiest point 754 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,119 guards that you know, they've ever had in terms of 755 00:37:46,159 --> 00:37:49,519 assistant turnover ratio. You know, Walter, I think if he 756 00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:51,559 gets pressured a little bit, it's going to be interesting 757 00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:53,679 to see, you know, But if he can keep the 758 00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:56,639 turnovers at a minimum, and you know, he brings that 759 00:37:56,639 --> 00:37:58,599 that weapon is a scoring point guard. You know, score 760 00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:03,079 twenty nine in the season opener against USF, which is 761 00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:06,559 really something. You know, they haven't you know, hit a 762 00:38:06,559 --> 00:38:09,079 bunch of threes yet. They've been kind of on the perimeter. 763 00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:12,280 They've you know, but they're still beating teams by fifteen 764 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,360 or twenty points. So I think that's a pretty good 765 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,239 sign because I think Perimeter, why, sooner or later this 766 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,440 team is really going to break out and you know, 767 00:38:19,519 --> 00:38:21,039 have one of those games where they hit ten or 768 00:38:21,039 --> 00:38:23,440 fifteen threes and you know, maybe they're saving it for 769 00:38:23,519 --> 00:38:25,960 that game up in North Carolina in December. That'd be something. 770 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,639 Speaker 1: All Right, We'll find Kevin Brockway, Gainesville Son all over 771 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,119 all over social media. 772 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 2: Check you know, if you want to read about the 773 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,199 Todd gold situation. 774 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,760 Speaker 1: He's done some great writing there and obviously we'll continue 775 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,880 to cover the Gators well. Kevin Brockway Gainesville Sun. Find 776 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,960 him on give me that, give me that that Twitter handle, that. 777 00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:45,079 Speaker 2: X handle one more time. 778 00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 5: Yeah at Kevin Brockway g one and you can find 779 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,559 my work on Gainesville dot com and getersports dot com. 780 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, does a great job covering the Gators. And he'll 781 00:38:53,199 --> 00:38:55,320 be all over these these two big stories that are 782 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,519 unfolding up there in Gainesville, obviously the billion apier return 783 00:38:58,599 --> 00:39:02,639 and then the Todd Golden situation that's ongoing here with 784 00:39:02,639 --> 00:39:05,239 with the administration of the university. So Kevin, appreciate the 785 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,480 great work. Enjoy Uh you got what LSU coming to 786 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:09,559 town correct Saturday. 787 00:39:10,159 --> 00:39:15,079 Speaker 5: Yes, what time is that game? Three ABC, three thirty ABC. 788 00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:17,599 Speaker 1: Again you're getting You're getting the LSU team reeling off 789 00:39:17,639 --> 00:39:20,239 the Alabama blowout, So be interesting to see what kind 790 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,320 of crowd we have in Gainesville as well, see if 791 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,119 Gators can get one step closer to Bowl eligibility. 792 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 5: And don't forget Garrett nsmyer Ls's quarterback Cleay Dear if 793 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,760 you hold sign Gainesville, it's kind of a homecoming for 794 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,679 him and his dad. You know, Doug was under Jim mcawain. 795 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 2: So that's true. 796 00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: That is a that's a great point there too. So 797 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,079 enjoy the game, Kevin. We'll talk real soon. 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