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Speaker 3: You're sure.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to our podcast, the WBC wel Theweight Worlds

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mann In, Mario Brios and Mario. Before we get cracking,

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I'm gonna tell our listeners what.

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Speaker 2: You have coming up. It's a big time fight.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna headline the the Zone Pay Review card, defend

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your title for in the third time. You gonna be

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taken on Ryan Garcia.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, the Zone Pay Review. It's at the

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Team Mobile Aria in Las Vegas, a place you have

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fought before. So welcome to the show. Thank you very

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much for doing this. I know you're already in Vegas

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getting ready for the fight. Just tell me right off

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the bat, how how do you feel going into this

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fight and you're coming off the July fight with Manny Pack.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now you've got another big one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I'm just uh, as always, I'm just excited,

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you know, to you know, be a part of you know,

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a big card. Excited you know, to be you know

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seven out there against a dangerous and unpredictable opponent.

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Speaker 4: You know, big name.

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Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, you know, I was been having a

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great camp with Joe Goosen. Uh was out there and

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lay since the beginning of December and we were, uh,

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you know, we got plenty of work out there, and yeah,

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we recently this past weekend we moved to Camps of

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Vegas to close out.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: Now we're I think like ten days away from the fight,

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and yeah, I'm just just ready to excite it.

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Speaker 4: Being patient.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, well you use the word unpredictable to describe Ryan,

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and we'll get to that in a minute. But I

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want to just go back real quick to the July fight.

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You fought a living legend in Many Pacio. He came

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out of a four year retirement to challenge you for

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your title. Who was a good fight. It was a draw.

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A lot of people thought that he won. There were

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some people that thought you won. How good is Manny Pacio?

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Speaker 2: Still?

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Speaker 1: People curious about what he's still left at his age

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and after the long layf And how did you feel

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about getting a draw? On the one hand, yeah, it's

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great you get to keep your title. But on the

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other end, it's not a victory.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, uh no, yeah, you know, very very happy.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's still with the performance I was able to,

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you know, to show you know, Podyas still has a

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lot left, you know, in the tank. I don't know

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how much longer you know that is gonna last. But

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you know, he definitely, you know, went into that fight ready.

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You know, I don't think I've seen many forty five

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year olds looking at you know that in shape or

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you know, able to to to still throw hands like that.

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And he was still still very strong and had a

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lot of you know, cracking both of his hands. But yeah,

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you know, I felt I edged out the fight. But

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of course, you know, that's why, you know, I think

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it was. I think that's why you know, the judge

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you know, counted drawn. I think, especially being in that

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arena or being at the MGM.

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Speaker 4: Live that like the crowd definitely plays. I feel like

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a big factor in the way that the fight.

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Speaker 3: Is like it moves in because it didn't matter what

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what pack yall did. He could shuffle with his feet,

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he could I could like he can land some punches

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on my arms, and the crowd was going crazy like,

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Speaker 2: I was there for that.

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Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're talking about fights and felt

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that energy plenty of times.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he definitely you know, it's an electric environment.

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Speaker 3: But you know, for for Manny and uh so, I

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mean I feel like, you know, that played a big part,

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but it is what it is. You know, boxing, boxing

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is weird like that sometimes. Uh, but yeah, you know

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it's still it's to keupt the title.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And that's kind of know what just led you know

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to So now you know this this big opportunity, you know,

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to defend against Garcia.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: You have a style that lends itself. Do you think

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to close fights? I say that because it is highly

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unusual for a world champion who has made two successful defenses,

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but both of them have been draws. Your draw against

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pak Yao in July, and your previous defense that was

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in the fall of last year against set another great

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fight by the way, against alb Ramos, and both of

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them came out. One was a draw, one was a

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majority draw. He kept the thought of both times, but

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again you don't come away with the win. But is

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it something that you do that lends itself to just

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being in these tight fights?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: But maybe, But you know that was one of the

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reasons why I was looking, you know, to just you know,

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change things, you know, with with with my camp, you know,

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just because I want to continue to just grow as

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a fighter. Of course, you know, like I don't want

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to nobody wants to, you know, retain the title, you

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know from from a draw.

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Speaker 4: You know, you want to.

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Speaker 3: Have a very successful, very dominant performance. And so yeah,

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you know that was one of the reasons why you know,

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I went with Joe Goosen, just to get back to

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some of the things that they got me this far

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in the first place. It's just I was always in

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and aggressive fighter, very busy fighter. So I just wanted

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to get back to some of those old ways. And

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you know, we're very familiar with Joe's style and we

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you know, he has brought that out of you know,

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a lot of fighters, so our styles, you know, they

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they they messed up, you know very well. And you

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know it has to be very excited for this fight.

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Speaker 1: So you're taking on Ryan Garcia you mentioned earlier, unpredictable.

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That's a very nice way of saying it.

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Speaker 2: I suppose.

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Speaker 1: He has a lot of people they look at Ryan Garcia,

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they see a guy with a tremendous amount of talent,

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quick hands, good power, electrifying left hook that can knock

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a lot of guys out. But others might say unfulfilled

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potential that he quit when he fought Gravanta Tank Davis

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when it got tough that he's a drug cheat because

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of what happened in the fight getting busted for peds

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against Devin Heaney. What is your perspective? I know you

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gotta fight him. You're gonna know a lot more about

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him after this fight's over on February twenty first, But

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going into the fight, h what do you when you

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when you hear all the things I just mentioned about

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the good and the bad about Ryan Garcia, what is

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your take on his career where he's at?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, really, I just know I have, you know, a

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dangerous opponent in front of me. You know, I know

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he's been clawing that, you know, an opportunity, you know,

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for a world title, you know, for a while.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: I know, you know when he looks I guess when

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he looks good. You know, he looks good. But it's

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a little inconsistent, you know, like very unpredictable. Like I said, you,

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I mean, everybody's saying, you know, even he said to himself,

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you never know what Ryan, You're gonna get. Uh, He's

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saying for this fight. You know, he's focused. His team

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is saying he's ready he's.

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Speaker 2: Sharp and something else saying that Mario.

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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, so you know me as as somebody fighting him,

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I can only hope you know all that is true,

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you know so because I know if it is, you know,

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then you know, we have a very exciting fight in

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front of us. But I know if not, it's not

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gonna change. You know what I bring, you know, into

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into the ring come fight night. You know, I'm gonna

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go in there with bad intention and I'm gonna go

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in there with trying to you know, to to test

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you know how much he really wants to, you know,

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be in the ringcome fine name and how bad you

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know he really wants, you know, like to win that fight.

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Speaker 1: So he did take the year's suspension because of the

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positive drug test. After what happened with Devin Hane he

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got to win turned into a no contest. Because of

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that suspension, he gave up his entire purse, didn't fight

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it against the commission, and then when he came back

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after serving the suspension, he fought the fight against Roly

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Romeiro for what was I guess the w what became

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the WBA title after it became vacant and Roly had

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beat him and he got elevated, but be then as

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a may he lost that fight. He got knocked down,

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he didn't look particularly sharp, and he was coming off

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the drug suspension. And now here he is in his

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next fight, getting opportunity to fight you for the WBC

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world title. And so I know you're gonna fight him,

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and obviously you're gonna get uh, you know, your work

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in and get your payday and all that. But how

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much do you think he deserves to have a chance

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to fight for the world title after what happened in

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the last two fights. Yeah, you understand why I'm asked now,

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is a good champion, but Ryan is Ryan Garcia getting

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that shot?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, No, I mean I definitely see it.

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Speaker 3: I just think, you know, the boxing is in a

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very interesting place, you know, where I think you're going.

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If you're definitely know if your name has still carries

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a lot of weight, you know, whether it's following, whether

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it's like your just your presence, you know, you're still

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able to get you know, those opportunities and everything. But yeah,

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you know, I can't think too much into that because

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I just know you know, I have an opponent in

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front of me. You know that's gonna you know, he

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is dangerous, you know when when he's you know, on

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his A game. And but yeah, you know, I don't

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I haven't really been, you know, thinking so much about

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that anymore, you know, especially this close to the fight.

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Speaker 1: Sure, one thing, I was interested because of the positive

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drug test. Obviously, I know you guys are doing VODA

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testing as you've done before, but I feel like this fight,

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the testing started maybe a little sooner than it normally

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training for this fight in December. Is my understanding that

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even before the deal was signed and official and announced

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that you were already testing, as was he, And so

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I'm wondering, from your perspective, how important was it to

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get the VOTA testing going as quickly as possible compared

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to maybe the usual length of time that the two

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, you know, as soon as the fight was being

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uh spoken on or the spoken avolve between our teams,

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me and my team were like pushing like okay, if

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this fight is gonna happen, like we're gonna you know,

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jump like jump on Beta, you know, immediately. So that

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was definitely you know, uh, the yeah, something that we

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were emphasizing right away.

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Speaker 1: One of the things when you guys had your press

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conference to announce this fight, that that he made a

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big deal about that that Joe Goosen had decided to

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train you when you asked him to do so after

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he had previously trained Ryan, and Ryan then of course

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fired him, and he somehow thought that even though he

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fired Joe Goosen, that by him taking the job with you,

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that he was somehow being disloyal. That'd sort of become

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a you know, a storyline. If you will love this matchup,

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what what is your perspective, because it's a fight between

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you and Ryan, not a fight between Joe and Ryan. Uh.

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saying all the right things, but it did strike me

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as unusual that he'd be so bent out of shape

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about I got going to get a really to get

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a job after the other guy fired him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that's so, I mean, that's the best

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it's it's not personal, you know, I think it's a

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business and it just happened, you know, to work that way.

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Speaker 2: In other words, if you were gonna find a different opponent,

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you still want to sawn out Joe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was still that was that was still

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like our our plan regardless was it was to go

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out there with Joe, and then just happened like a

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week or two after that was when the talks about

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the fight was I started getting brought up. So yeah,

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it was just like that's just just something that something

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Speaker 1: So the question is this, then it is still the

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fact that he did train Ryan at one period of

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time as a professional. He also knew him back in

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the day and worked with him as an amateur. So

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even though you were gonna go with Joe, regardless of

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who your opponent was going to be for your next fight,

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it does happen to be Joe Goosen's former pupil in

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Ryan Garcia. So has he giving you information that he

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knows from having worked so closely with him over those

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over those fights in those years. Has it is it

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something that you can get from him in terms of

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like tips or secrets or whatever you want to call it,

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and in terms of what to expect from Garcia.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like is he giving it the blueprint all of

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his secret knowledge?

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Speaker 4: I think that's that's the thing. I don't think.

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Speaker 3: It's like it takes me working with Joe Goosen to

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really see where where Ryan is beatable.

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Speaker 2: But he does that insight into that.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah absolutely.

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Speaker 3: But but yeah, you know, so like Joe does know

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him a little bit more personally, and but yeah, you

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know it's just like our focus is just on you know,

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what what Ryan brings, uh stylistically.

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Speaker 2: So then how do you think the fight goes?

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Speaker 1: Because when I look at it, I see the Mario

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Barrios I've seen fight many times. Big heart will go forward,

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you know, willing to take a couple of shots to

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make sure you get your best win. In Ryan is

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more of a guy that relies on the speed and

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then the and the sort of the footwork when he's

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on his game. Uh and can really, uh you know,

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be a lot quicker than most of his opponents.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And so maybe it's up to you to try to

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make sure you're slow down and catch him. How do

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you think that the fight plays out in that sense,

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like if you tag him and you know, does he

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maybe go into a shell, does he maybe find a

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way out the way he did against Tank Davis, Or

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how do you think about the blue the blueprint of

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how the fight will go.

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Speaker 3: Well, a lot of that is, you know, it's hard

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to really say how it's going to happen. Like you said,

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a big part of that just depends on what Ryan

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shows up. But definitely, you know, just like I said,

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and I'm looking to just go out there and make

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him uncomfortable just with I I know the type of

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styles or the or what he doesn't do well with.

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He doesn't like to be uncomfortable in there. And uh

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so yeah, just you know, using what I know about

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him as a fighter, using what Joe knows about him

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as a fighter, and then just like going in into

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the fight and using all of those things.

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Speaker 2: Is that the big Mario Barrio's body attack?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh for sure, that's that's that's every fight.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what worked against him when he fought against

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Kank Davis, your old foe as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No, for sure, we know, and oh yeah,

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you know that's always a part of part of the plan.

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You chop the tree down, you know, break the body,

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you know, the the head will fall. So yeah, you know,

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just gonna go out there and make it uncomfortable. Uh,

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you know, try to get the bodywork early, early in

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and just you know, just try to break him down

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round by round.

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Speaker 1: So you're you're defending your welterweight title, and it's a

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welterweight division that is kind of wide open. He got

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four different champions. H A lot of the guys are

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are newish in terms of having the title. You are

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the longest tenured champion in the way class. Presently. You

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have the WBC champion as you You've got Devin Haney,

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has got the WBO title, which he recently won, Lewis

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Crocker is the IBF champion, and Roly Romero got the

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wb A title last year.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And there's also Connor Ben out there who's been talking

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specifically about his desire coming off his big victory in

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the rematch against Chris you Bank Jr. That his dream

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is to be the WBC champion, not because he's chasing

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after you specifically but because he's talked about how it

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means a lot to his family because his father was

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a former WBC champion back in the day. So if

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you are victorious, like I know, you expect to be

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what's your path, what's your dream fight? I mean, whether

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it's another champion or it's a bend fighter moving up

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or somebody else. Like when you look at that landscape,

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you're gonna you get a big win here. You're gonna

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be you know, still a wanting end by everybody.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you know that's what makes you know this

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fight is so important, you know, uh for you know,

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I'm looking like I want to have you know, a

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sensational you know, uh sensation sensational title defense because yeah,

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you know, of course ideally you know, like I want

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to have a title unification with one of the other champions.

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But if not, you know, like still you know, bring

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like those big you know, those big names you know,

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like like a A Connor Ben. So that's why you know,

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what victory is is so important And I'll come next week.

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Speaker 1: A victory is not a draw, right absolutely, Mario, thank

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you very much for your time in the interview. I

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appreciate it very much, and I wish you nothing but

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the best of luck, Like against Ryan Garcia, I.

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Speaker 3: Was gonna tell that too, Dan, Thank you

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Speaker 2: You bet Mario appreciate it.