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Speaker 1: Here's your hosts, Jesse Suvier and Victor Nuno Fantasy Hockey

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Live once again.

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Speaker 2: Jesse Severe, Victor Nunio water to talk fantasy hockey. Victor

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my fantasy hockey doctor. Let me stick out my tongue

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and say ah and ask you how you're doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing awesome, Jesse. I really excited to be here,

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and this is in a very exciting day. And right

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off the top, I think we should discuss a prospect

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who's very far down the funnel but still has some

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pracy an.

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Speaker 4: Upside, and that that's you, my friend.

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Speaker 3: It's your birthday, Happy birthday, and of course you're spending

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it with me on Zoom talking about fantasy hockey for

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hours and hours.

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Speaker 2: You're right, You're darn right. I'm ready to retire, and

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yet I have retained my rookie eligibility. I still got

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the green M on fan Tracks next to my name.

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I still got the Elite Prospects page. So I appreciate

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that victory you're such a good guy remembering people's birthdays

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and all that stuff. And there are two sources I

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have had of birthday wishes today. You know how, it's

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just used to be on Facebook and you'd have your

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end of it's a wonderful life moment once a year

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where everybody was wishing happy birthday. But I'm in on

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Facebook for years. So two places. One is corporations keep

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emailing me today, anybody who apparently has my day to

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birth somewhere in their files. Restaurants that I haven't been

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to in ten years are sending me happy birthdays. And

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Discord Victor, our Fantasy Hockey Life. Discord has been all

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over the place wishing me happy birthday today, and I'm

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touched by that crew. Prompt today you showed them the tweet.

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But everybody's been so nice. It's a good place to

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talk fantasy hockey and talk dynasty fantasy hockey. So that

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would be your birthday present to me. It's just join

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there's something maybe a little better you could do, and

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why didn't you tell them about that, Victor.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, let's come right back and talk. Don't help

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you applier. Welcoming back to the show.

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Speaker 5: A man.

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Speaker 2: He's ready to talk to us about the Philadelphia Flyers.

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He is the man behind in NHL Draft bus Elite Prospects,

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and he is the author of a book, Game Winners.

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Russ Cohen, How are you today, good, Jess, how are you.

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I'm doing great. I'm doing great. I'm ready to talk

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some Flyers with you. And I don't know, Russ. My

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short version of looking at this season is there's a

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couple of really cool things for us to talk about

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that happened this year, but overall it seems like a mess.

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It ended with John Tortorella gone as coach, Flyers fourth

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in the bottom of the NHL standings, which could be

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a good thing, and at the very bottom of the

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Eastern Conference. Actually under fifteen percent conversion on the power

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play was better than only two other teams, but actually

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a lot better than the year before, as I believe

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management pointed out when they were confirmed, with that three

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percent better than the year before, but they couldn't stop

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the pocket. Of course, the goalies will come up a

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little bit later. Despite allowing the eighth fewest shots against,

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the Flyers had the NHL's worst say percentage, which pretty

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much did the men on goals against the Flyers and

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Daniel Briert. They've been one of my favorite offseason teams

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in terms of really respecting the way they've approached their rebuild.

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But where did the season put them? Russ? Is this

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the dark right before the dawn, or does the loss

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of Tortorella the aful finish indicate the team is behind schedule,

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so to speak.

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Speaker 1: No, this is just I think even though they always

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said the right things, I think they felt like after

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that one year of towards where they advanced that maybe

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they were going to continue on that. I didn't think

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so they didn't. So I think this is just natural

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in the rebuild process because again, there's no guarantee in

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this league year to year unless you're that team that's

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always making the playoffs. If you're even Colorado now, is

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going to have problems in the future. Maybe not the

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near future, but but coming down the pike. There's a

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few teams, the teams are in the Stanley Cup shore

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and so they're not one of those teams. So they're

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one of those teams that in any giving year could

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be eight to ten points out of the playoffs or

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two three spots near the bottom. That's how rebuilds work.

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But I think their hope was they were going to

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get to speed up the process, maybe like the Rangers

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did back in the day, and now you see that

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it didn't really help them. So I think right now

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that are not behind, but the place that they probably

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are behind is in net.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, there were some good things, and one of

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them is Travis Connectney. I'm interested to hear about your

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take on Connectney in the last year for the team.

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You certainly can't blame him. He led the team in

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points and buy a lot. His cistally of fifty two

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beat his prior high in assists by fifteen and led

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to a career high in scoring. He pushes up against

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about two and a half shots per game. He hits

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more than once a game. There's some very good peripherals there.

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the height of his powers, would now be the time

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to trade him to build on the next deadline? And

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then I look at the cap sheet and realize, oh no,

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he has got an eight year extension. The Flyers signed

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him to start right now, so obviously Breer and company

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think of him as a long term piece for the

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team and modified no move clause eight point seventy five

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million for the next eight years. He also had a

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bit of a slump close to the end of the season,

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and I saw some coverage about that, a little bit

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of talk, but look at it as overall stats amazing.

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Was this a career season for connect Me? And do

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you expect another leap or did the end of the

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season maybe suggest some regression to come.

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Speaker 1: No. I think he's reaching his height, but I think

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he could stay there for a while. I wouldn't have

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given him the eight years, although I really like him

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as a player, And that's just simply because the cap

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tells you that a player like this is probably not

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going to be that effective in year seven and eight.

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But look, they want him there. He's proven himself. The

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thing is about the end of the season. So yeah,

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we all asked him about it, and he copped to it.

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He the four nation did not help him. It was

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not his friend. There was not enough playing time there,

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and there was extra attention brought to that, and he felt, yeah,

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you know what, it made his season longer in a way.

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now because he might be on the Olympic team. And

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so if he's going to be on the Olympic team,

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he now has to figure out how to not have

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a swoon after the Olympics, because that's he's not going

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to get that time off. And the way he plays,

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he expends a lot of energy every game. He gives

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it his all every shift, right so that's a battle

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for him. That's something he's going to have to figure

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out this off season and we'll see if he can

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or not.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, we're gonna talk about one of the younger players,

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Matt Vane Mitchkoff. Of course, it was his first season,

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and I'd have to say it was a success. Sixty

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five point pace, his first quarter and his last quarter

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were his best, and time on ice definitely increased towards left.

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But I think there's no denying his offensive ability. It's

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defensively that has been great. He looked at his rampum

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chart and he's deeply in the red in terms of

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his expected goals against in coursey against. The limited minutes

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due to defensive engagement might continue under Tackett, another guy

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who's known to care about all sides of the puck.

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So Russ wondering what you think about Mitchcalffs season and

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will he be able to build on that sixty five

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point pace to get past seventy or will this defensive

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responsibility or engagement lack of engagement continue to limit some

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of his upside.

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Speaker 1: No, he can get past seventy, no question in my

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mind he could do that. Towarts was definitely responsible for

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some issues with him. Yes, he was overstressing the defense

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on him for a while, and it definitely was weighing

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on him, and it definitely cut down on his points.

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He at times actually played okay defensively, but then I

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do think it all got in his head and so

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Tuckett is going to want to play strong on both

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sides of the puck. But I think he is going

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to let Mitch Coop be more like himself than Towarts

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let him. And if he does that for a whole season,

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he'll get more points. He still might be a minus

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twenty at the end of the year, but you have

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to just let that sort of take its course. The

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Flyers aren't expected to win, so there's no reason not

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to play him regular minutes. I don't think brick Tockett

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thinks he's they're making the playoffs this year, so he

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should have seventy seventy five points and continue to improve.

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He may get some different linemates to play with, they

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may try something in free agency. We'll see and when

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that's like where they're at. But his season was really good.

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I as far as for the for the calendar voting,

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I had him third. I did. I had him ahead

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of a Wolf because I felt like Wolf wasn't as

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good as he was down the stretch, so I put

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him ahead of Wolf. But whatever, I had Hudson first

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and celebrity second, and I felt like he could have

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been in the top three but he wasn't. So will

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he have a chip on his shoulder? Yes? Did he

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want to win that award? Yes? I know that for

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a fact. Hey, a lot of great players haven't won

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the Calder. I'm not going to hold him back.

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Speaker 2: Owen Tippitt has been a man on the rise for

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a while, but this year, with twenty one goals twenty

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two assists in seventy seven games, it was a slow

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start to his new eight year contract that he's on

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for a reasonable six point two million. His lines were

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really moved around a lot, it seems like looking at

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the season, which is understandable if the Flyers were trying

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to find something that really worked and he had low

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level deployment near the end of the season. Results were

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not on the score sheet, but his expected goals about

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replacement and even strength offense were actually second only to

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Matt Veay Mitchikoff on the team. So yeah, that's what

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I thinks to say, is it okay?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's right. Hiring because they moved the lines

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because of him because he wasn't producing. He has to

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prove that contract. He hasn't proven it yet. The issue

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with Tippett for the last two years has always been

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missing the net and when he thinks about when he

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gets a play and it's on his stick, if he

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doesn't think about it, it gets on net, and a

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lot of times it scores. If he has the pucket,

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he thinks about it and then shoots. He misses, and

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so he's needed a shooting coach for at least two years.

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I don't think they've given him one other than whoever

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the team hires for skills, and they're going to get

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a different person this year. But he needs an actual

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shooting coach because he misses the net too much.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that was taken out of his game

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this year because probably because he wasn't effective for so long,

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was the fact that he used to be able to

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bring the puck down the ice and kind of make

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something happen at least a couple times a game, and

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he would score those a lot of times that would

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fire up the team, those were few and far between

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after a while, so that Tacket will probably bring back.

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It's hard to find a good linemate for him because

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of this up and down syndrome that he's got, and honestly,

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with the contract they gave him, they thought he would

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be like a thirty thirty five goal guy and he's

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yet to do that. And if he doesn't do that,

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then this contract is not going to be reasonable.

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Speaker 3: Oh all right, we're going to do a bit of

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a points to come here. Now we're going to talk

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about Tyson Forster and Bobby Now Forrester, they both had

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in the low forty ish points this season. So we

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had Forrester with forty four points, twenty five goals and

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eighteen assists, and then in eighty one games with sixteen

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to fifty two time on ice, Both these guys ended

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up having just under two minutes of power play time

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on ice and Brink had forty one points, twelve goals

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and twenty nine assists in seventy nine games and a

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little bit quite a bit lower time on ice, just

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fourteen fifty.

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Speaker 4: So what do you think about the role for these two.

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Speaker 3: Well, one of them increased in which one would you

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consider would get more points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Forster is going to get a lot more points.

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He's going to increase. He's much better on both sides

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of the puck, and he's physical at times. If they

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get him with the right linemate, he definitely can score more.

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He's got a heck of a shot. I think with Forrester,

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thirty goals should be possible. I don't know if it's

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going to be this year, but it should be possible

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for him. Sixty points should be possible. That's those are

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things that he's capable of doing, either on the first

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or second line. And then with Brank, Look, he's not

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going to get that kind of power play time as

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they get better. He might not even get it under

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Rick Talcket and the up and down nature of his play.

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This was his best season for points, but he still

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hasn't really cleaned up his skating enough where he'd say, hey,

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he's a really good skater. He's getting by defensively, he's

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pretty good guy. He's feisty. He could lose his place

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on this team very easy in the next year or two,

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and so this is a big year for him, Like

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he has to prove that he can really stick. But

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I don't think he's getting two minutes of power play

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time this year.

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Speaker 2: Sean Katurier is another player of great interest here. He was, evidently,

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according to the folks who observed the end of season stuff,

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the not necessarily the best friend with the Tortorella, or

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at least he was a little bit disconnected from the man.

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It's bad news when the captain year team isn't on

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the same page as the coach. The big man. Sure

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he is. He had another flyer who will be signed

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up for the long term. Hasn't been the same kind

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of score since he missed that whole year in twenty

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twenty two, twenty three. What did you see with Sean

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Couturier this year and what are we expecting going forward?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? With Katurier like still he has to fill in

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at one or two see because of their lack of

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center depth, so that that kind of hurts them a

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little bit. Because at the beginning of this season he

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always comes out gang gangbusters, but the back has still

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been an issue. He won't talk about it, and that's fine.

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He cuts it out. He makes great defensive plays. He

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still could win big defensive draws. Occasionally, he'll look like

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the right guy for three four games in a row,

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and then he'll fade a bit. The contract's a bad

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one only because you know of the back injury. Before

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the back injury, that contract looked great because he was

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winning Selkies and doing terrific. He's not that guy anymore.

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Can he still get forty points?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What do you have this year?

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Speaker 2: This year he had fifteen goals, twenty nine assists. He

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had forty four points.

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Speaker 1: Forty four points, yeah, so he could be in that range.

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But he used to be a guy that could have

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gotten sixty five or more. So forty four points is

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about right for him. Maybe with Tockett he can get

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up to fifty. And he's still good defensively, but he's

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just not the same guy. But he's still valuable for

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the team. You can't trade him. The contract's untradeable. You

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can't buy him out. It's too long of a buyout.

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So they're going to get the most they can out

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of them. But for a fantasy option, what you saw

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this year is pretty much what you.

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Speaker 2: Get, all right? And is there anybody else on the

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team you think could hit a fifty point pace? And

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in Philadelphia this the next year.

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Speaker 1: For fifty points, you would think Jamie Drysdale could. I

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think that's gonna be Rick Tockett's number one job is

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to try and get Jamie Drysdale those points, because again,

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their power play was so bad and they Rocky Thompson

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should have been fired a year ago, but he wasn't,

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so that power play suffered for two years. Drysdale should

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be the league guy in the power play. Drysdale should

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be allowed to take the puck up the ice more.

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He started to play better later in the season, but

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his offense still really hasn't kicked in the way it should.

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Is he capable of getting fifty points? I used to

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think so, Now I have to wait and see on that.

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So I would say Drysdale is one and Sandheim obviously

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could get fifty points. He might get sixty this year

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because Tackett's going to use him even more offensively now

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that he's bigger and stronger and faster. The Four Nations

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did a lot for him. He certainly got himself on

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the map, and he's been getting better a little bit

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better every year now under Tackett. I think there'll be

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a little bit more of his offensive play that might

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be able to come out. So I think that's for him.

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Noah Cats is the interesting one. He just got signed.

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Could he get to fifty That might be the highest

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he could get. So I think if you made a

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bet that if Tacket open things up a little bit

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and Kate's wasn't in such a defensive role like he

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was with Towarts, could he get there? Maybe?

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Speaker 2: Well, let's I want to ask a couple of follow

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ups on a couple of the defensemen he talked about.

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Definitely Drysdale. Is he's a mystery box this guy. Yeah,

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only twenty one points in seventy games last year, and

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yeah he had the most minutes on the power play

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among defensemen on the team. But we just talked about

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the power play, how awful it was, so dry. You

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think without Rocky Thompson, Drysdale could really take this up

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a lot. He's not been able to show that promise

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since maybe that one year in Anaheim that he had.

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He just hasn't shown. It's what is the problem there?

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Speaker 3: You think.

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Speaker 1: It was some of the things I mentioned before that

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this joint of power play is definitely something like at

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one point they had off Owen Tippett on his off side,

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Like why would you have a guy with a big

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shot like his on the off side, Like, he couldn't

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do anything on the off side of the power play,

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so it was totally dysfunctional for a while. But Jamie

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could certainly shoot more. He certainly could shoot from better angles.

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I think that would help him on the power play.

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I think if he is allowed to have a little

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more freedom bringing the puck up the ice, I think

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he still has that creativity. His skating's really good. His

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skating's excellent, and he can create offense. If he's out

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there at times with a Meach Coop and those guys,

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his points total should rise. So it really does depend

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on who he's out there with. His game got a

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little safer for the second half of the year, so

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that may help him with Talcket, but there's certainly more

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offense to give. I don't know if it's as high

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as what I once thought though. Yeah, I mean he's

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definitely going to improve on that total from last year,

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that's no doubt. But they have to figure it out

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because he's only got one more year left on his contract.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll give you the pick him with the two,

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and you just talked about Travis Sanheim, who definitely was

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like he was suddenly the rock star during that world

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with the Four Nations. Everybody's talking about Travis Sandheim and

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how great he was there. He ended up having thirty

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points for eighty two games, which is a Travis Sanaheim

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mich season. He's not necessarily your high score. And then

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waiting in the wings is the declining Rasmus Wristol line.

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And shall we say we used to love him in

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fantasy because that guy shots, blocks, hits and points and

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power play. He would do all the stuff for us.

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He's definitely on his way down now. But then again,

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John Tortorella is gone, so I don't know if that

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means the re Rasmussen of the Philadelphia Flyers or between

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those two is san Haim far and away? And does

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Risto have any place in the coming year.

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Speaker 1: San Haim is far and away the guy that should

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be able to get to fifty points because Schwartz kind

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of held his points back early in the year as

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far as usage and such, because he was doing everything.

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He couldn't be out there for everything. And I'm not

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saying he's going to get much power play time. He

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probably won't, but I think he can get more five

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on five points with a team with a little better,

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more open offense. So I think you'll see that. Naturally,

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Risto is going to have a role. He is constantly

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getting hurt. The latest is that try he's supposed to

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and the problem is so he got the triceps operation late,

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so now it's going to run into training camp. He's

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supposed to be ready for camp, but you know how

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that is. So then it's like he hasn't played in

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a while. I wouldn't be expecting a lot of points

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out of him. I think when they were playing him

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on the power play before he got hurt, was so

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they could trade him. But he's not that power play

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guy anymore. Can he pass the buck?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 1: Is he gonna score much? No? So he can get

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he might get you twenty five points, but I don't

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think you get much more than that. But he's a

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really good defensive player. But for fantasy I wouldn't touch him.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about a guy you may want to

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touch in fantasy, and that's Cam York. Seventeen points in

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sixty seven games, twenty one point pace. Previously he had

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three points in eighty two games, and we were thinking

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that maybe he could take a step here and that

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things were looking up.

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Speaker 4: It was a pretty quiet year overall.

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Speaker 3: He was averaging two minutes of power play time in

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the previous season, but only about nine seconds last season,

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despite pretty similar total time on ice, and overall he

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does do pretty well with block shots and hits. He's

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just under four total of those per game, which is

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pretty nice, and the total time on ice helps with that.

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He's an RFA this season. Evolving Hockey is projecting a

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three year deal just over five million, And I will

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point out that even though sometimes people think of him

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as an undersize, not very good defensive defenseman, the underlying

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stats would disagree with that. A lot of his expected

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goals against in course he against, looked very solid. I

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just don't know if the offense is going to come.

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So what do you think, ress, Is he going to

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be able to get more offense than twenty thirty ish

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point pac or is that kind of where he'll be stuck.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. He was very offensive with the NCDP

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and all of that, but what quickly started to show

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here in Philly was that on the power play, his

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shots not very accurate. He misses the net a lot.

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Is he a really good puck de striper on a

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power play?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 1: At the end of the year, did he look toniff

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that they never really gave him a chance to get

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back on the power play? Yes, So I think he'll

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be given a check and we'll see if that could

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help his point total. I mean, he is a good defenseman.

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You got to remember Towarts has played him on his

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off side for a couple of years too, and so

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that was definitely going to be a learning experience and

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that definitely cut into his offense. He is a good defenseman.

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He's not a great defenseman. He is reliable. He will

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play a lot of minutes. From a fantasy perspective, he's

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not that physical, so he's not going to give you

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a lot of hits. So, yeah, you're hoping for that offense.

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I think they'll be a little increase. I can't tell

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it's going to be huge, and I'd be surprised if

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that contract is right As far as the av I

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think it's going to be higher than that based on

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the stupid prices that we're hearing out in the in

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the universe with the cap rising so I don't think

479
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they'll get him that cheap, but I think there's a

480
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chance he'll be traded too.

481
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Speaker 3: Oh that's good to hear. All right, let's move on

482
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,960
to the other guy that I want to ask you about,

483
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and that's mL Andre. I've been a huge fan of Andre. Yes,

484
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,440
he is small, he's still only five to nine, but

485
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I would.

486
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Speaker 1: Argue he has a grown So that's true.

487
00:23:00,599 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 3: He has not grown, but I don't think he plays

488
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,480
a small man's game. He's always been very strong. He

489
00:23:05,559 --> 00:23:07,880
had forty two games with the Flyers, seven points in

490
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,480
that time. It was the first year up that previously

491
00:23:10,519 --> 00:23:13,160
he had four games, and it seemed like Towarts was

492
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,640
a fan he tended. I guess we'll see what talk

493
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,960
it feels about him. Not a lot of points, but

494
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,759
he averaged a little over a minute power play tom

495
00:23:20,759 --> 00:23:24,319
and ice and three point five to two total block shots.

496
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 4: And hits per game.

497
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 3: Not bad, although you'd hope for a little bit more.

498
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,480
But overall, you look at the underlyings and his expected

499
00:23:29,519 --> 00:23:31,799
goals for and against were both really good. He was

500
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,880
driving play on not a great team, so I think

501
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,000
that there's reason for optimism that Andre could give even more,

502
00:23:38,039 --> 00:23:40,519
and I would imagine would be in line to at

503
00:23:40,599 --> 00:23:42,279
least get a look on the power play and see

504
00:23:42,279 --> 00:23:44,240
how he does next season. So what, Russ, what did

505
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,880
you think of Andre's season and where he can go

506
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:46,359
from here?

507
00:23:46,759 --> 00:23:49,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, Andre is terrific on the power play. They didn't

508
00:23:49,599 --> 00:23:52,079
utilize him there at all, bit hardly at all, So

509
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,839
there was that Towarts was a fan until he wasn't.

510
00:23:55,279 --> 00:23:59,480
He Andre was doing pretty well when he got sent down.

511
00:23:59,519 --> 00:24:01,400
The team had winning record with him. So like the

512
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,839
numbers that you're seeing was he was a lot of

513
00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:07,200
the reason why, because all of a sudden that there

514
00:24:07,279 --> 00:24:08,920
was this guy. You put him in the lineup and

515
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,039
he does create offense. He is a good skater. He

516
00:24:11,079 --> 00:24:13,240
is a really good passer. Once in a while he

517
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,480
would have a gaff and I think he can clean

518
00:24:15,519 --> 00:24:17,480
that up. And he can be really good on the

519
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,799
power play. But you have to use him on the

520
00:24:18,799 --> 00:24:21,119
power play to know that he does have a good shot.

521
00:24:21,559 --> 00:24:24,799
He does get feisty, and he will if hits count

522
00:24:24,799 --> 00:24:28,240
in your league, it'll count, they asked. They have said

523
00:24:28,279 --> 00:24:31,240
to him though, basically, keep yourself out of harm's way.

524
00:24:31,279 --> 00:24:33,400
Like Bobby Brink used to have that problem. So I

525
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,400
think they Andre is learning how not to get creamed

526
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,640
on shots like getting checks, and I think there's definitely

527
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,359
could be an upswinging points here. It's really going to

528
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,880
be hard to tell how many, because I think, just

529
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,920
like Andre is deserving of getting a shot on the

530
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,640
power play, they might go with Drysdale first, York second,

531
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,880
and then maybe Andre as far as that would talk

532
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,440
it through something like five forwards and put Connecti or

533
00:24:57,559 --> 00:25:01,119
Mietchkoff at the power play quarterback. He might, so then

534
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,279
that would impact Andrey too. So I don't know how

535
00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:05,759
they're gonna do it, but I expect big changes on

536
00:25:05,799 --> 00:25:06,480
the power put.

537
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 3: Well that's good here, especially considering how bad it was. Yeah,

538
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,400
so let's move on to the goalie. Speaking of bad,

539
00:25:15,519 --> 00:25:18,599
the Philly goalies were ranked fourth and expected goals against

540
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,759
per sixty, but they conceded the twenty eighth ranked actual

541
00:25:21,799 --> 00:25:23,920
goals against. So it doesn't take a genius to realize

542
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,680
the goalies were a huge part of the problem in Philly,

543
00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:31,160
And let's talk about a couple of them. They had Erson,

544
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,920
who I know Torus has liked for a long time.

545
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,400
He had a tough year all around. He had negative

546
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,400
twenty twenty negative twenty two goals save above expected A

547
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,839
delta Finwick were bad. I know he had some injuries

548
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,000
along the way, and he battled. He really worked hard

549
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,880
in there, but it didn't quite work out. He's in

550
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,880
the second and final year of that one point four

551
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,920
or five AAV and then I've been Vetotov got in

552
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,720
there for a couple dozen games and he didn't look

553
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,319
great either. His goal save about expected negative twelve, and

554
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,079
he's in that second and final year of a maybe

555
00:26:02,079 --> 00:26:03,119
more money than he deserved.

556
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,039
Speaker 1: I guess you could say definitely that's true.

557
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they gave cal us Off a few games.

558
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,960
It didn't seem like he was quite ready. I'm not

559
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,000
sure what's going to happen with him. I know there's

560
00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:14,920
been a lot of drama in that, So I guess

561
00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:17,119
the lots of questions here Russ that there's a lot

562
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,240
of uncertainty with the goalies. None of them that they

563
00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:21,720
currently have seem to be all that great and need

564
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,440
to really potentially revamp what they have in net. So

565
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,039
what do you think is going to happen next season?

566
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,160
Who's going to get the majority of the starts and

567
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,640
are they going to be worth holding in fantasy, it.

568
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: Could be somebody else, like they're definitely looking for a goalie,

569
00:26:34,319 --> 00:26:38,160
so that's one. Danny Brier's hold is holding steady, saying

570
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,039
that Alexei calls up still on the roster, but he

571
00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:43,519
didn't go and play for Lehigh during a playoff run,

572
00:26:43,559 --> 00:26:45,599
so he doesn't want to play in the AHL. He

573
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,319
did for a little while and now at the end

574
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:48,599
of the year he didn't want to go down and

575
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,599
go on a playoff run, So that's not great. So

576
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,079
I don't know if anybody's going to want him or

577
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,240
what's going to happen with him. I having for Dodoff,

578
00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:56,200
I think would go down if they sent him down,

579
00:26:56,519 --> 00:26:58,720
wouldn't love it. But he's getting paid really well, so

580
00:26:58,799 --> 00:27:01,839
I think he just would look with nothing is to nothing.

581
00:27:02,039 --> 00:27:04,440
No situation he could get in would be worse than

582
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,640
what it was in in Russia. Right, So he's a

583
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,799
good guy and I think you would be amenable. But

584
00:27:09,799 --> 00:27:12,319
he did have some really good games. I think the

585
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,279
problem with Avian Verdodov is he's not that goalie from

586
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:18,519
the World Juniors because he missed development time for lack

587
00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:20,599
of a better word, being on the Russian front, term.

588
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,000
Being on the Russian front right, he didn't get to play,

589
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,759
and when he didn't get to play, it hurt his development.

590
00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:28,480
So we're still seeing he's a rookie in the NHL,

591
00:27:28,599 --> 00:27:32,000
like we don't know if there's more to give. At times,

592
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,160
he can be frustrating for the opponent because of his size.

593
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,079
At times he could be frustrating for his team because

594
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,200
he'll leave out some big rebounds. We'll see. I think

595
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,680
Erson does better internationally. He definitely was okay in the

596
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,960
Four Nations and they used him in the World Championships.

597
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,559
He'll probably play forty games for no matter who's there,

598
00:27:52,599 --> 00:27:56,759
they'll probably split time. Could he be better, Yeah, but

599
00:27:56,799 --> 00:27:59,319
so far history tells you what you saw this year.

600
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,400
What you saw lat year is him. I followed him

601
00:28:03,839 --> 00:28:06,960
ever since he's gotten over here, and I like his attitude.

602
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,519
I like the way he is, but he just seems

603
00:28:09,519 --> 00:28:11,240
to always give up that one goal where you say

604
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,319
that one's not good. He gotta go on nice little

605
00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:17,519
streaks like a good goalie would, but he also can

606
00:28:17,559 --> 00:28:19,799
go on the other streaks where he has these games

607
00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:22,359
where he's given up the bad goals. So I think

608
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,640
he's okay. I think he's more suited to be the

609
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,880
one bee, and if they get things to work out right,

610
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,359
they would get another goalie and then he would be

611
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,759
the one be. If they don't, then he's going to

612
00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:36,920
get the lion's share. I don't envision Fiddoff wrestling the

613
00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:39,599
job away, but I'm not telling you that Sam person's

614
00:28:39,599 --> 00:28:41,440
got a great grip on that job either. It wouldn't

615
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:42,079
take that much.

616
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: Who has a great grip on us? Is you rust

617
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,079
going because you got a book coming out and now

618
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,440
you got to go find that tell people about you know.

619
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,839
Speaker 1: Hard to find? Yeah?

620
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,319
Speaker 4: On Amazon?

621
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, all right?

622
00:28:58,279 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: Can I get it on my kindle?

623
00:28:59,799 --> 00:29:01,039
Speaker 1: You can get it on his kindle?

624
00:29:01,079 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: Because if you just said no, I'd have felt really bad.

625
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:04,720
But yeah, no, that's good.

626
00:29:05,319 --> 00:29:06,559
Speaker 1: You can.

627
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: What's it exactly? What's exactly about Russ?

628
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,559
Speaker 1: It's the fiftieth grade, It's the fifty greatest goals. Myself

629
00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:15,480
and Matthew Litner wrote it in NHL and Olympic History,

630
00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:18,960
Olympic Hockey history. So if this show airs before Father's Day,

631
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,759
you could still get it on a kindle before Father's Day. Yeah,

632
00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:24,960
it's really good. We would say that team wise, there's

633
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,640
a lot of Islanders, there's a lot of flyers. Like

634
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,559
I said, there's Olympics in there. There's Women's Olympics in there,

635
00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:32,359
so there's a goal. There's a hint there from that.

636
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,559
There's Winter Classics in there, because some of those were

637
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:40,279
pretty dynamic goals. Not everything is a Stanley Cup game winner. Like,

638
00:29:40,359 --> 00:29:42,920
there are the goals out there from other games and

639
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,759
other playoffs and such. So there's some big names in there,

640
00:29:46,839 --> 00:29:49,319
some names you've never heard of. There's some funny stories.

641
00:29:49,319 --> 00:29:51,720
And there is a coin flip involved in one of

642
00:29:51,759 --> 00:29:54,200
these games. That's how go far. It goes back to

643
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,400
when they just did a coin flip. Imagine that. Yeah,

644
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,279
it's a fun book. We also rate how the goal was,

645
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,279
Like basically that goal was a five or five or three,

646
00:30:04,599 --> 00:30:06,480
so we I think it was out of five that

647
00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:08,119
we did it, but I might have done it out

648
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,599
of three. I can't remember this moment. But we did

649
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,359
rate the goals too, and we broke it down both

650
00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:15,880
Matthew and I wrote it gave our perspective and it

651
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,839
was fun because the reason we had to make it

652
00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:22,279
just NHL and Olympic history is because then otherwise everybody's

653
00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:24,160
just going to be like, well, what about the Men,

654
00:30:24,319 --> 00:30:27,000
what about not the Men Cup, the Summit series? What

655
00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:29,240
about those kinds of things? Is Paul Henderson in it?

656
00:30:29,319 --> 00:30:31,759
Is it? But it's now there's just too many other

657
00:30:31,839 --> 00:30:34,880
things out there, so we had to narrow the scope

658
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,000
a little bit.

659
00:30:36,759 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it sounds like the scope is still in

660
00:30:40,319 --> 00:30:42,440
a wonderful range. I hope people will go out and

661
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,160
check out that book, check out all the working you

662
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,240
got going online. Russ, thank you for coming on.

663
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:56,759
Speaker 5: Hey, thanks guys, Yeah, thank you.

664
00:30:57,079 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: That's good fer my goodness with a quick gram.

665
00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: Now it's your weekly goalie talk.

666
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: But Kat Silverman Kat's Instincts.

667
00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 3: Time once again for Cat's Instincts. With Kat Silverman of

668
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,960
Ingold mag we're talking Philly goalies. The Philadelphia Flyer goalie

669
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:24,400
experiment continues, and we're so we got some interesting options here.

670
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,920
I think it's more of an experiment at the NHL level,

671
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,880
at least so far. But we're gonna start with Yegor

672
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,440
Zavirigan six two and eighty three pounds, twenty twenty three

673
00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:35,960
third round pick. He'll be twenty this summer. He's still

674
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,599
super young. He's actually still nineteen as we're recording this,

675
00:31:39,319 --> 00:31:42,240
and he played forty three KHL games this season as

676
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,480
a nineteen year old and he absolutely killed it. I

677
00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:46,839
would say he was playing for scott Saint Pete, which

678
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,160
sometimes can be challenging, very high profile team. He was

679
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,000
loaned out to Sochie for a little bit also look

680
00:31:52,079 --> 00:31:54,680
good there and was really good in the playoffs. So

681
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,119
not a whole lot to complain about. His hockey prospecting

682
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,200
looks like a direct line straight up from thirty seven

683
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,640
to fifty one to sixty two percent chance of being

684
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,839
a star. Sometimes I feel like these Mahl numbers are

685
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,559
a little wonky, but he's looking really good in the model.

686
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,519
Just guys like Ilias rokn and Dominic Kashik as his

687
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,519
main comparable. So you probably need to talk Flyer fans

688
00:32:16,519 --> 00:32:18,960
off the ledge here A little bit okay with Zavrigan,

689
00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:20,319
But what do your instincts tell.

690
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 6: Us about oh Man? I think Flyers fans need to

691
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:30,319
be as calm as possible because they have such a

692
00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:33,599
tough system and such a tough environment for any goaltender

693
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,880
to come into right now and looks really good. I

694
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,599
think his saves selections look really easy, and by that

695
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,920
I don't mean that he is facing easy shots, he

696
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,480
makes this simple move. He doesn't always look like he's

697
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,599
just flying around out there, which should make for an

698
00:32:51,599 --> 00:32:56,880
easy transition. That being said, their last good Russian goaltender

699
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,519
who looked like he was making really constant, consistent, confidence

700
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:05,039
safe selections over in Russia came over to North America

701
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:11,799
and has had a few growing pains. And I think

702
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,920
until Philadelphia proves that they are not going to rush

703
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,079
goaltenders directly from Europe into the NHL, I can't say

704
00:33:19,119 --> 00:33:22,400
that this prospect is going to thrive because I really

705
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,119
don't like what they're doing with their prospects right now.

706
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,519
I think they're They're probably the team that I think

707
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:32,599
has the worst development system, not just in terms of

708
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,720
the players that they have, but in terms of the

709
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,440
way that they're developing them, at least in goal league wide,

710
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,799
and it's really not close. So I think the Ragen

711
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,319
looks really good, and I think that it says a

712
00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:49,559
lot that his numbers look good not just in the

713
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,519
SKA Saint Petersburg system, but also when he was loaned

714
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:55,960
to HK Sochi, which is not a team that has

715
00:33:58,039 --> 00:34:03,000
quite as much money and prestige thrown behind it. That

716
00:34:03,119 --> 00:34:05,920
is something that when it comes to both CSK and

717
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,079
Moscow and SK Saint Petersburg, that sometimes you see goaltenders

718
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:13,920
who really seem like they thrive, and it's because they're

719
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,480
playing for what essentially amounts to the Olympic national team

720
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:24,639
against everyone else, So it's like having it's like we're

721
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:28,920
in space jam here. When he was loaned, he looked great.

722
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,840
And there were a couple of times when I was

723
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,400
going through some of his game footage that I thought

724
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,800
he was playing against kids his age, and I was like, Oh,

725
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,639
this save looks really good, but how would he look

726
00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:42,519
against a KHL team? And then I would double check

727
00:34:42,559 --> 00:34:44,639
and I was watching game footage for my KHL game,

728
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:50,440
So that's promising. I just think that Philadelphia fans need

729
00:34:50,519 --> 00:34:55,719
to prepare for the worst and pray for the best

730
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,800
with their goaltenders for the next couple of years. I

731
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,079
think the team needs to prove that they when they

732
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:02,800
bring him over to North America, if they get a

733
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,480
chance to, will do a good job of easing him

734
00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:10,280
into playing in North America. And I need to see

735
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,480
them bring someone who is a good, consistent, high performing

736
00:35:14,519 --> 00:35:19,280
mentor in their goaltending depth chart, because right now they're

737
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,559
doing a lot of salvage yard stuff, which I love

738
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:25,800
a good redemption story for a goaltender as much as

739
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,199
the next person, but it makes it really hard for

740
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,440
any of them to thrive when everyone is fighting for

741
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,280
their career. There.

742
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 3: Hopefully Egor's Averrigan can avoid being thrown in Gulag for

743
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,159
a year, and if that happens, that'll also help his

744
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,239
transition to North America. All right, let's move on to

745
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,239
the other goalie for the Flyers. That's Carson Bjarnison, and

746
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:55,639
he was a city six foot four ton seven pounds

747
00:35:55,639 --> 00:35:59,320
twenty twenty three, fifty first overall pick, and he's also

748
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,400
pretty young. We're recording this he's still nineteen. He'll be

749
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,639
twenty this summer. So they have a couple of really

750
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,239
young goalies in their system where they are very promising.

751
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,719
He had his second WHL season this year for the

752
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,280
Brandon wie Kings, and his numbers improved.

753
00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:14,039
Speaker 4: Overall.

754
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 3: They were a little bit above nine hundred save percentage

755
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,199
last season. He pumped out up to nine thirteen and

756
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,880
he dipped his GA under three. All good signs, and

757
00:36:25,159 --> 00:36:28,239
he will be eligible to move on to the AHL

758
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,000
next season. So that's where we would expect him to be.

759
00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:33,199
He did join the team, but didn't get into any

760
00:36:33,199 --> 00:36:37,199
games during their playoff run. So looking at the hockey

761
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,000
prospecting model for Barnison, he's stuck in the high twenty

762
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,519
percent chance of being an NHL R. So he's got

763
00:36:43,519 --> 00:36:46,320
some comps of guys like Alex Georgia of Connor Ingram,

764
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,880
Chris Osgood is one that he looks a fair amount alike,

765
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,519
and he was Snaverage starter. So, Kat, what do your

766
00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:53,360
instincts tell us about Carson Barnesson.

767
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 6: It's nice that he has some comps that are honestly

768
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,719
pretty solid NHLers. It's always a little bit alarming when

769
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,920
you look at the comps and it's a bunch of

770
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,199
guys who you know in Siri that they played hockey,

771
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,599
but you have no visual recollection of them ever playing

772
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:17,039
a game that you watched. And basically his entire list

773
00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:20,840
is people that, even if their careers have been a

774
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,400
little up and down, are people that we have watched

775
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,119
succeed on NHL ice. It is also nice seeing the

776
00:37:28,199 --> 00:37:31,360
Flyers take a chance on a North American goaltender. Sometimes

777
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,880
I get a little concerned when teams only take Canadian

778
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:38,679
and American goaltenders, but then it seemed like the Flyers

779
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,440
for a while there were only taking European goaltenders who

780
00:37:41,559 --> 00:37:43,880
might get thrown into the gulag, which was a little

781
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:49,000
concerning when it came to finding good development paths that

782
00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:52,039
were going to fall weren't going to create log jams anywhere,

783
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,840
and be Arneston is playing in I would argue, still

784
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:01,159
the best defensive league of the North American junior leagues.

785
00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:04,079
I think the WHL still does a really good job

786
00:38:04,119 --> 00:38:07,679
of allowing their goaltenders to flourish, and I know that

787
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,280
sometimes that can create kind of iffy comps because they

788
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,159
are playing behind systems that really give them a chance

789
00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:18,679
to thrive and sometimes they're not necessarily playing against the

790
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,519
most dangerous offense night after night. But watching his games,

791
00:38:23,519 --> 00:38:26,639
he looks really crisp, he looks really confident, He's got

792
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:31,440
really good foot speed. I liked his debts management as

793
00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:34,239
much as you can for a major junior player. I

794
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,599
think it'll be interesting to see how he develops moving

795
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:39,800
into the Flyers system because he's come from a really

796
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,639
nice structured team. But I think he could be a

797
00:38:44,639 --> 00:38:47,239
really good ad. I think it also helps that he

798
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:54,119
doesn't have Carter Heart level prestige thrown on him. We're

799
00:38:54,119 --> 00:38:57,519
not looking at Flyers. Fans aren't looking for him to

800
00:38:57,559 --> 00:38:59,519
come in and fix everything. So he has a little

801
00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:02,719
bit of a more pressure free transition into playing in

802
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,079
North America, which I think is nice, or not playing

803
00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:08,559
in North America rather playing in the Agel. He's already

804
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:10,239
in North America. He's in Canada.

805
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 3: Indeed, that is a fact that sounds good. And yeah,

806
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,679
it is good to have two guys that are different

807
00:39:16,679 --> 00:39:19,800
in terms of their trajectory and their track. So that's

808
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,800
all good. And thanks so much CAF for giving us

809
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,400
your instincts on the Flyers' goalies.

810
00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: Will be back right after this dig, the dynasty dig.

811
00:39:44,519 --> 00:39:49,280
They'll a Delphia Flyers additioned the Flyers who they have

812
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,679
the number twelve system in the National Hockey League and

813
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,719
they're blessed with picks number six, number twenty two. And

814
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,400
you may know whether it's thirty one or thirty two

815
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,400
by the time you're listening, but we don't because it

816
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,079
depends on the Stanley Cup Finals. It starts Victor in

817
00:40:04,159 --> 00:40:07,519
terms of their present prospects with the no brainer, who

818
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:07,760
is it?

819
00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:11,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, the no brainer is going to be Jet Luchenko

820
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,559
twenty twenty three, thirteenth overall five eleven, one hundred and

821
00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:21,000
ninety pound center slash swinger, probably a center. He primarily

822
00:40:21,039 --> 00:40:23,320
played in the OHL for this season for GWELF. He

823
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,480
did play four games with the Flyers there were some

824
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,960
good moments. He also played some moments some games with

825
00:40:29,039 --> 00:40:31,280
Lehigh Valley towards the end of the season, but primarily

826
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,719
he was with GWELF. He was the captain there. Fifty

827
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,320
six points in forty six games might look like a

828
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,480
bit of a regression, but the team wasn't what it

829
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:41,199
has been in the past. He was pretty good for

830
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,840
them and three assists with Lehigh Valley in the regular season,

831
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,880
six assists and seven playoff games in the playoffs for

832
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,760
the HL. That's pretty solid. And he was part of

833
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,760
that U twenty World Junior Championship for Canada team that

834
00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:57,039
wasn't great. I don't think you can blame any one

835
00:40:57,039 --> 00:41:00,599
player for that, and same is true for Luchenko. Looking

836
00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:03,440
at Mitch Brown's tracking data, Luchenko was awesome this season

837
00:41:03,519 --> 00:41:06,639
ninety four percentile overall. His transition was clearly the best

838
00:41:06,639 --> 00:41:08,119
part ninety fifth percentile.

839
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 4: The main low.

840
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,039
Speaker 3: Part for him was the expected goals and shots per sixty.

841
00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:17,159
Both of those are low, but the expected primary assist

842
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,920
the slot passes slot passes for sixty all that was

843
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,760
good for the offense. The defense rates out at eighty

844
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,239
fourth percentile, but some things weren't as good, like controls

845
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,000
exits per sixty in defensive play course he against.

846
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 4: But overall, this is.

847
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,519
Speaker 3: A really dominant player in junior and important to note

848
00:41:33,519 --> 00:41:35,440
that he is. He was only eighteen all of this

849
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,039
season as a late August birthday, so it's not like

850
00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:40,360
he's so much older than some of the other guys

851
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:41,599
that he's dominating against.

852
00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 4: So that's pretty good to see.

853
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:45,639
Speaker 3: Looking at the FHL player, Carl Luchenko have as a

854
00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:47,760
six point five to one, so fifty one percent chance

855
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,480
of being a six out of ten on your roster.

856
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,440
The points hopefully will translate somewhat. I'm not sure that

857
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,320
he's going to be a big point getter, and the

858
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,679
bash in the OHL wasn't amazing sixtieth percentile. The shots

859
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:01,679
are at of blocks or average, the hits are a

860
00:42:01,679 --> 00:42:04,519
little bit above average, so hopefully he'll bring a pretty

861
00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:06,480
solid floor in terms of the hits. But the rest

862
00:42:06,519 --> 00:42:09,159
of those priffs aren't looking too great. But let's find

863
00:42:09,159 --> 00:42:11,719
out a little bit else about what is looking great

864
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,519
with Lutanko from our REFHL Scout.

865
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: Our report today is from Fantasy Hockey Life Scout James.

866
00:42:20,559 --> 00:42:26,119
He says this of Jett Luchenko. He sees skating explosive acceleration,

867
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,920
high end speed with dynamic edgework, passing and handling, elite

868
00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:35,159
vision and playmaking awareness, strong two way capabilities, shooting decent

869
00:42:35,199 --> 00:42:38,159
shot although he could add power in better shot selection

870
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,440
Hockey IQ that is, vision, anticipation, panic and poise high

871
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,199
hockey IQ. Smart decision making in all zones. Aggressive but

872
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,679
also cautious for checking, relentless and speed driven excels and

873
00:42:51,679 --> 00:42:57,039
puck retrieval and offensive zone pressure. Defense committed defensively, wins

874
00:42:57,119 --> 00:43:01,320
face offs, covers back penalty kill potential, best asset. Complete

875
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,840
two way player uses speed and hockey intellect. The biggest

876
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,440
concern he needs to add some strength for battles and

877
00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:11,159
more shot strength. The top tier outcome that James could

878
00:43:11,199 --> 00:43:14,159
see for Luchenko is tier three, a top six center

879
00:43:14,159 --> 00:43:17,000
who can play special teams. That's a fifty to sixty

880
00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:21,519
point player with average bash scores and a stylistic comparable.

881
00:43:21,519 --> 00:43:25,119
He offers Nick Suzuki. I thought Suzuki was a little

882
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,079
more highly estimated these days, but that would be a

883
00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:31,880
great outcome for Luchenko and our friend Mason Black, the

884
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,920
NHL rank King and the tidy Ultimate Champion. Put out

885
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,639
the poll jed Luchenko versus Oliver Moore, and wouldn't you

886
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,000
know it? Dead heat Victor. One hundred and fifty four

887
00:43:43,079 --> 00:43:45,639
votes in and it's straight up fifty to fifty between

888
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:50,119
Luchenko and More. I don't know is this a tie

889
00:43:50,159 --> 00:43:52,280
in your mind, Victor? That would be an upset. Who

890
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,000
do you like better?

891
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,679
Speaker 3: That's funny that these guys are tied. I think it

892
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,159
is probably pretty close. I think that's reasonable. I think

893
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:03,840
that between the two, I'm not sure whose scoring is

894
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,840
gonna translate.

895
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:06,119
Speaker 4: A little bit better.

896
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:11,679
Speaker 3: I like Oliver Moore's speed and his tenacity. I'm not

897
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,920
sure that he's gonna have the scoring touch, so I

898
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,280
think we might give slight edge in the scoring to Luchenko.

899
00:44:18,559 --> 00:44:22,360
More doesn't have great hits or blocks either, and his

900
00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:24,559
but his shots are better, So you might get a

901
00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:26,199
little bit more shots from More, you might get a

902
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,960
little more hits from Lachenko. I think I'm gonna give

903
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,760
the edge here to Lachenko. I think he has slightly

904
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,320
better points upside, but it's pretty close. Looking at the

905
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:41,880
hockey prospect in between these two, Luchenko increased his draft

906
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,880
his star potential up to thirty percent chance of being

907
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,440
a star, more lowered it. For the second straight season,

908
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,199
he went from fifty four to thirty eight to twenty

909
00:44:50,199 --> 00:44:53,119
five percent chance of being a star. So overall, a

910
00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:54,840
little bit trending down. But these guys are going to

911
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,599
similar spot. I think they're both gonna be NHL r's.

912
00:44:57,599 --> 00:44:59,960
I think they're both going to be average to slightly

913
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:04,079
above average roster players. So I don't think you're gonna

914
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:05,639
go wrong here with picking one of these. I think

915
00:45:05,639 --> 00:45:10,280
they're both subpar choices in general, and looking at some

916
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:15,079
other comps for Luchenko, Jared Stole is a pretty decent comparison.

917
00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:17,119
Speaker 4: He was a pretty average producer.

918
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,079
Speaker 3: There's some other guys that you could look at that

919
00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:21,360
might be a little bit better, but I think that's

920
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,719
pretty much the ballpark you're looking in and looking at

921
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,159
the j Fresh model, Luchenko five percent chance of being star,

922
00:45:27,519 --> 00:45:29,599
thirty one percent chance of being in NHL are so

923
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,039
overall a little bit more pessimistic, which is what we've

924
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:35,960
come to expect from that model, Jesse, You're darn.

925
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 2: Right, Victor. Next up, what relatively small northern European do

926
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:41,920
we need to know?

927
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 3: That would be Amalandre Amelandre, twenty twenty second round pick,

928
00:45:47,519 --> 00:45:50,039
five nine, one hundred and ninety pounds. Yes, he's still

929
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:53,119
five to nine. He had forty two games with the

930
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:57,800
Flyers this season, and overall there was some significant positives

931
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,320
here with his game. He also so played twenty five

932
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,280
games with Lehigh Valley and that was pretty decent, sixteen

933
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,119
points in twenty five games to go with his seven

934
00:46:08,119 --> 00:46:11,280
points in forty two games for the Flyers. All in all,

935
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,519
it wasn't an incredible season for Andrea, but I think

936
00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:18,079
he proved that he can hang at the NHL level,

937
00:46:18,119 --> 00:46:21,000
which was good to see. I think people listeners of

938
00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:23,039
this podcast know that I've been a fan of his

939
00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:26,159
for a long time, and I definitely think even if

940
00:46:26,159 --> 00:46:28,800
for a small guy, which is always hard as a defenseman,

941
00:46:29,159 --> 00:46:31,639
he's someone who has shown that he can play.

942
00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:33,079
Speaker 4: He's really pretty physical.

943
00:46:33,079 --> 00:46:35,679
Speaker 3: If you look at his FHL player card, his hits

944
00:46:35,679 --> 00:46:38,199
are average, which is something you might not expect for

945
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:39,719
a guy who's as small as he is, and he

946
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,039
has a good amount of shots. Overall, his bass should

947
00:46:42,039 --> 00:46:45,960
be relatively average, which is pretty decent. You look at

948
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,119
his rampum chart and his course he against for sixty

949
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:52,559
was incredible. He was in the top ninetieth percentile of

950
00:46:52,599 --> 00:46:55,280
all NHLers, which is pretty impressive to say for your

951
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,599
first forty plus games of NHL action. So you like

952
00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:03,360
to see His expected goals for were also really good. Overall,

953
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,079
his underlying metrics scream that he deserves a little bit

954
00:47:06,119 --> 00:47:09,039
more time on ice than what he got this season,

955
00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:12,599
and so that rodes well for him moving forward. His

956
00:47:12,639 --> 00:47:15,639
time when I said season was seventeen twenty one with

957
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,559
a little bit of power play time, so that was

958
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:20,480
good to see. But let's hear a little bit else

959
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:27,719
more about our small guy eml Andre from our FTL scout.

960
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:32,119
Speaker 2: Once again from James emil Andre left defenceman the skating

961
00:47:32,559 --> 00:47:36,519
excellent acceleration and edge control for a smaller defender. Moves

962
00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:41,079
with ease both offensively and defensively, passing and handling, creative

963
00:47:41,199 --> 00:47:46,199
composed puck mover initiates breakouts with crisp accurate passes, strong

964
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,679
puck control, under pressure shooting, hard point shot, blistering release

965
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,400
effective for rebounds and power play setups. The IQ high

966
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,760
hockey sense, rarely flustered, reads plays well, can play in

967
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:04,039
all situations for checking, supports, puck retrievals, stays involved offensively

968
00:48:04,119 --> 00:48:09,800
without sacrificing coverage, defense, sound positioning, active stick, and tenacious

969
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,280
for his size. Some risky positioning has led to inconsistent

970
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,079
play in the NHL. The best asset then smooth skating,

971
00:48:17,159 --> 00:48:21,320
playmaking defenceman, calm and composed with the puck. The biggest

972
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,360
concern he can be susceptible to physical mismatches and the

973
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,599
top tier outcome Tier two, top four defenseman. He can

974
00:48:28,679 --> 00:48:32,199
quarterback a power play. He'd get himself forty plus points

975
00:48:32,519 --> 00:48:36,079
with some decent bash and the stylistic comparable. He's going

976
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:40,360
to reach back to Chemo Timonen and Mason Black. The

977
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,920
NHL Rankking put out the poll. Emil Andre versus Makil

978
00:48:44,039 --> 00:48:48,480
Gulaiev and Gulayev is in the lead. He wins this

979
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:52,360
one fifty eight point five to forty one point five.

980
00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:57,039
Victor Andre upset. Is that something that you would agree

981
00:48:57,079 --> 00:48:59,039
with no, I.

982
00:48:59,000 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 4: Don't think so.

983
00:49:00,199 --> 00:49:02,679
Speaker 3: I think that I would still want Andrea. I think

984
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,760
that right now people have seen a little bit of

985
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,880
taste of Andre and it hasn't been overwhelmingly positive, just

986
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,159
because he's new in the NHL, and so they see

987
00:49:12,199 --> 00:49:15,440
the lack of production, the lack of scoring, and they

988
00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:19,159
might be a little bit swayed negatively for that. But

989
00:49:19,199 --> 00:49:22,320
you look at what Guliya is doing in the KHL,

990
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,079
and he's not doing anything crazy impressive either of the

991
00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:29,079
last two seasons. He's barely cracked fifteen points in sixty

992
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:31,480
seven games in the KHL, so I don't think he

993
00:49:31,559 --> 00:49:34,119
projects to be much of a score either. You look

994
00:49:34,159 --> 00:49:37,079
at the bash between these two, it's not really much different.

995
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,039
Glia is going to get you more shots and blocks,

996
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,800
so he averages out to about a six, and Andre

997
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,440
was a little bit more average at a five.

998
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 4: But overall, I.

999
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,519
Speaker 3: Don't think you're getting major peripheral production here. I think

1000
00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:50,360
the thought with Glia was that he was being more

1001
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,519
of a score. I'm not sure that's true, and I

1002
00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:54,280
think it tells a lot that Andre was able to

1003
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,840
run the power play in Philly. Although it seems like

1004
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,679
everyone gets a turn running the power play in Philly,

1005
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,679
So I'm not sure how much that means Jesse, but

1006
00:50:01,199 --> 00:50:04,639
looking at the hockey prospecting between these two, Guliyev was

1007
00:50:04,679 --> 00:50:06,719
really high based on his MHL production.

1008
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 4: He has trended down.

1009
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,639
Speaker 3: To sixty nine percent chance of being a star, but

1010
00:50:09,679 --> 00:50:12,239
I think that's really inflated based on his MAHL numbers.

1011
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,840
And you look at Andre, He's trended up from eight

1012
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,800
to thirty six percent chance of being a star, and

1013
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,519
that's based on his strong play in the SHL. So overall,

1014
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,239
it definitely looks likely I have based on the hockey prospecting,

1015
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,239
But I think if you understand how misleading those MAHL

1016
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,239
numbers can be, I think you'd be a little bit

1017
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,159
more realistic looking.

1018
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,119
Speaker 4: At some other comps. Here.

1019
00:50:32,199 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 3: For Andre, I think we have is a reasonable one

1020
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,280
based on size Lee I have five to ten and

1021
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:43,239
Andre five to nine. Another smaller defenseman that might be

1022
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,800
reasonable is Jordan Spence. Jordan Spence, who's still developing but

1023
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,639
has ended up being a tweiner, might be someone who

1024
00:50:50,679 --> 00:50:52,679
comps to Andrea. But I think Andrea is someone who

1025
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,719
has more sticking power in the NHL. I just quoted

1026
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,000
his underlying metrics. He's pretty good all around, and so

1027
00:50:58,039 --> 00:50:59,320
I think that's going to allow him to carve out

1028
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,840
an NHL role where a spence seems still like it's

1029
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,599
up in the air. Looking at the j Fresh model

1030
00:51:04,639 --> 00:51:06,639
for Andre, just four percent chance of being a star

1031
00:51:06,679 --> 00:51:09,079
and twenty percent chance of being an NHL or all

1032
00:51:09,079 --> 00:51:12,559
of that is what we come to expect from j Fresh.

1033
00:51:12,599 --> 00:51:15,559
Even though Andre did have some pretty strong numbers in Sweden,

1034
00:51:15,679 --> 00:51:18,280
it looks a little bit more pessimistic for him being

1035
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,559
a star and full ten and NHLer in that model.

1036
00:51:20,599 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 4: But I'm more optimistic than that Jesse.

1037
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 2: All right, Victor in now our keep your eye in prospect.

1038
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,039
A man who DJ Khaled would say all he does

1039
00:51:30,119 --> 00:51:33,440
is win. All I do is it, no matter what.

1040
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,639
Speaker 1: Got money on my mind, I can't not looking enough.

1041
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 3: That would be Denver Barkiye. He was captain of the

1042
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,559
Mermorto Cup winning London Knights this past season. Twenty twenty

1043
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:48,199
three third round pick. He is another short king five

1044
00:51:48,199 --> 00:51:52,960
to nine, one hundred and fifty four pounds, pretty undersized overall.

1045
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,039
Speaker 4: He's a center.

1046
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 3: Wing, but he we know that he brings a lot

1047
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,960
more to the table than that he had a pretty

1048
00:52:00,159 --> 00:52:04,400
strong season, not just leading the Knights with the sea

1049
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,239
on his sweater, but also eighty two points in fifty games,

1050
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:14,000
which is a pretty decent second, pretty decent season after

1051
00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:16,000
one hundred and two points and sixty four games last

1052
00:52:16,039 --> 00:52:18,280
season for the Knights, so you like to see that

1053
00:52:19,159 --> 00:52:22,960
keeping that production up for Denver Barkie. You look at

1054
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,079
Mitch Brown's tracking data this season and it looks pretty fantastic. Overall,

1055
00:52:27,159 --> 00:52:30,480
eighty six percentile, ninety first percentile for offense, sixty nine,

1056
00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:33,679
sixty eight for transition, seventy two for defense. Pretty much

1057
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,760
all the things are above average too well above average.

1058
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:37,639
Speaker 4: The best part, as you.

1059
00:52:37,559 --> 00:52:40,519
Speaker 3: Can see in this tracking data is the expected primary

1060
00:52:40,519 --> 00:52:42,800
sis for sixty and the slot passes, so definitely more

1061
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,320
of a playmaker creator, which is really nice to see.

1062
00:52:46,599 --> 00:52:49,239
You look at the FHL player card and you can

1063
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,840
see the Barkie I have n't had a five point

1064
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,840
four to five forty five percent chance of being.

1065
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,159
Speaker 4: An average ross player.

1066
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit more pessimistic on his NHL projection,

1067
00:52:58,119 --> 00:53:01,599
even though he's been an awesome OHL player. He does

1068
00:53:01,599 --> 00:53:04,760
shoot a fair amount eightyeh percentile for shots, but only

1069
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,079
fortieth for hits and blocks, so overall he'll be probably

1070
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,320
just slightly above average in terms of bash, so that's

1071
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,079
not going to help too much in terms of the

1072
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,280
holding him when if he's not scoring in the NHL.

1073
00:53:17,679 --> 00:53:19,800
But let's hear a little bit more about Denver Barkiy.

1074
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,239
From our Every Tail scout.

1075
00:53:24,039 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 2: James has this to say of Denver Barkie, the left winger.

1076
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:32,199
He's shifty, very agile, great acceleration, solid edgework as far

1077
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,239
as skating, passing, and handling. Great a playmaker with tight

1078
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,960
puck skills, high motor guy shooting effective shot for a

1079
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,960
smaller player. Excels in finding scoring lanes IQ high hockey

1080
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,920
sense excels and zone entries in creating space. Energetic and

1081
00:53:48,039 --> 00:53:51,119
persistent on the fore check. Can be very disruptive at

1082
00:53:51,159 --> 00:53:54,719
both ends of the ice. Defense competes in open eyes,

1083
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,360
but needs to add strength for battles along the boards.

1084
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:02,000
Best asset great speed combined with creative flair and relentless effort.

1085
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,320
Biggest concern needs to add significant size. Top tier outcome

1086
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,800
Tier three by default third line winger at the absolute

1087
00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:14,760
best and overall, James is not convinced that mister Barkie

1088
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:19,960
will be an NHL player and Mason Black. NHL rank

1089
00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:24,639
King puts Denver Barkie up against matt Vey Greeding the

1090
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:30,280
prospect of the Calgary Flames, and Greeding is ahead fifty

1091
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,760
point seven to forty nine point three, So it's a

1092
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,840
narrow victory for the Flame as Denver Barkie really in

1093
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,920
second place in that competition Victor.

1094
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 3: I think these are both guys that I'm not too

1095
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:44,840
fond of.

1096
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:45,679
Speaker 4: Griddin.

1097
00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, he probably has a little bit more offensive upside.

1098
00:54:49,679 --> 00:54:51,880
I think that there is some of that with him.

1099
00:54:52,039 --> 00:54:54,199
He doesn't have the size concerns. He's six to one,

1100
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,639
and he did come over to North America a couple

1101
00:54:57,679 --> 00:54:59,639
of seasons ago. He was in the USHL and then

1102
00:54:59,639 --> 00:55:02,559
he went He's shifted to the qu this season. Seventy

1103
00:55:02,639 --> 00:55:06,039
nine points in fifty six games. That part's great, and

1104
00:55:06,079 --> 00:55:09,840
he definitely has skill and he can make great plays.

1105
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,239
I'm just not sure about his all around games. So

1106
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,400
that makes me a little bit more questionable with Griddin.

1107
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,599
I do think that I would. I think that Barkie

1108
00:55:18,679 --> 00:55:22,800
has more tenacity and will to make the NHL, so

1109
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,599
he probably will. I just don't know that it's going

1110
00:55:25,679 --> 00:55:28,639
to be a top six capacity. He might evolve into

1111
00:55:28,679 --> 00:55:32,079
a bottom six grinder and maybe he can realize I'm

1112
00:55:32,119 --> 00:55:34,639
scoring later in his career like Brendan Gallagher or something

1113
00:55:34,679 --> 00:55:37,079
like that. But I'm just not convinced that the scoring

1114
00:55:37,159 --> 00:55:39,159
is really going to translate. And with Griddin, I think

1115
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,559
it's even a question whether he's going to be a

1116
00:55:41,559 --> 00:55:43,760
full time NHL or because of his all around game.

1117
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,079
So that makes me a little bit more worried, even

1118
00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:49,599
though some of the comparables for Griddin are stronger. But

1119
00:55:49,639 --> 00:55:51,760
I would definitely take him just because the scoring upside

1120
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,039
is high, even though the volatility is higher, So I

1121
00:55:54,079 --> 00:55:56,800
would side with the people here. I have Griddon as

1122
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,719
a five point four or five forty five percent chance

1123
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,000
of being a five, which is exactly the same as

1124
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,280
I had Barkie he but just goes to show that

1125
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,719
there can be nuance in context within these ranks.

1126
00:56:08,039 --> 00:56:09,159
Speaker 4: Looking at the hockey.

1127
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,159
Speaker 3: Prospect in between the two, Barkie at thirty percent chance

1128
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,960
of being a star great and at fifteen, So that

1129
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,119
shows that Barkie is a little bit more valuable, but

1130
00:56:18,199 --> 00:56:20,000
I think that is a little bit more than that.

1131
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,320
Looking at some other comps for Barkie one that is

1132
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,480
maybe reasonable as someone like Emlbemstrom who ended up being

1133
00:56:27,559 --> 00:56:31,719
replacement producer and didn't end up quite fleshing out bottom

1134
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,119
six step score. I could see that outcome for Barkie

1135
00:56:35,199 --> 00:56:37,559
a little bit more pessimistic here, but that's the truth.

1136
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,280
As we'll also hear from Jay Fresh being having him

1137
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:42,880
at a two percent chance of being a star at

1138
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,440
nineteen percent chance of being an NHL or so overall

1139
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,599
not to not super exciting there for Barkie.

1140
00:56:49,159 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 4: And that's it for our flyers dig.

1141
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,639
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1142
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1144
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1145
00:57:04,599 --> 00:57:15,840
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do a solo show called Dynasty Sports Life. I talk

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about all the different Dynasty Sports on there. If you

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listen to the episode that came out yesterday, as this

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is being released Wednesday, it came out on Tuesday. It's

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about the NBA Draft, which will happen back to back

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with the NHL Draft, and me and my guests are

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going to go over We're both going to mock draft

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the lottery and explain who some of those big players are.

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So if you don't know anything about the NBA Draft yet,

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this might introduce you to some of the prominent names.

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Follow us on social media. You can catch me fan

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Hockey Life on x Victor Nuno twelve on x Or

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even better, go to Blue Sky Jesse Severe All one

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word or the One Victor with the one being in

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a number and all the things running together. That's how

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you catch Victor, Rate and review this podcast Apple Pods, Spotify,

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wherever else you get your pods in. Until next time,

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I hope you've enjoyed this talk about the Philadelphia Flyers.

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Keep living that fantasy hockey life.