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<v Speaker 1>Yo, what's going on? Everybody? Welcome to a new episode

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<v Speaker 1>of My Canic Cass. I'm Canadave. Today's episode, we got

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of news coming out all over Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll roll some of that up here in a little

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<v Speaker 1>out to our partners that make this possible.

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<v Speaker 2>And there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's jump into a groovy I think we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>start off in Ohio right below us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so today we're doing news articles. Summer's not with us.

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing a lot of interviews. Last week we release

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<v Speaker 2>Jess Jackson's a lot of social equity and stuff. She's

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<v Speaker 2>doing some great things out Minnesota summer journals. Now when

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<v Speaker 2>someone will be on the next one with cal Axioms,

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<v Speaker 2>but this one, like David was jumping into it, we're

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<v Speaker 2>just doing news articles because there's actually surprisingly a lot

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<v Speaker 2>going on, and lately I feel like we haven't been

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<v Speaker 2>doing a lot because there wasn't a lot of new

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<v Speaker 2>things popping off. But lately it's just been the past

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks. So we're like, wow, we need to

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<v Speaker 2>catch up and doing news one. So here we are.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of stuff going on from Ohio, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff changing here in Michigan. But it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a full circle thing is the same thing that's

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<v Speaker 2>going on down Ohio kind of similar to what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on up here. So let's talk about all this uh facts.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like Ohio might be increasing there, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>decreasing some other things. So I always kind of get

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<v Speaker 2>some messed up things going on.

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<v Speaker 1>These are all with lawmakers want nothing can get sent

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<v Speaker 1>stoned until they vote and get it through, you know. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>because in Ohio twenty twenty three they overwhelmed the past

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<v Speaker 1>Issue two, which Issue too was for any adult twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one years and older, you're able to can ingest, smoke

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<v Speaker 1>and vavee cannabis. You can grow up to six plants

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<v Speaker 1>without the twelve plants per household. So that was the

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<v Speaker 1>bill they passed in twenty twenty three. And it's only

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<v Speaker 1>a month and a half into twenty twenty five and

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<v Speaker 1>lawmakers already like, and we need to.

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<v Speaker 2>Change that, and it's already. The thing is, it's already

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<v Speaker 2>a current price is double what Michigan is, so obviously

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan has like a really low price compared to anyone

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<v Speaker 2>right now. But because it's saturated. Yeah, but that's crazy

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<v Speaker 2>to me because like whenever people hike up these increases

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<v Speaker 2>in text hike up these increases and everything. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>you just pushing people to go to a lisit. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people aren't gonna start buying illegal gasoline

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<v Speaker 2>if you raise gasoline prices. But like the thing about

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<v Speaker 2>cannabis is it started as an illegal thing, so you're

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<v Speaker 2>just going back to what people knew, You're not.

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<v Speaker 1>It'd be hard to get illegal gas unless you knew somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>The same thing with weed back, how'd you get weed

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<v Speaker 2>some you knew someone. You gotta have a plug, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the same idea, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>My whole point is that it's like you're just going

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<v Speaker 2>to push people to come back over here to Michigan, like,

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<v Speaker 2>or you're going to push people to go somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're gonna go. They're gonna go somewhere to get

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<v Speaker 1>their cannabis.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when you're talking about increasing on on on

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<v Speaker 2>the taxes and stuff, but then you're also talking about

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<v Speaker 2>decreasing plant count.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, plant counts what they want, what they want to

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, they want to decrease for this recreational It's

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<v Speaker 1>not for like a license, but this is for anyone

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<v Speaker 1>that's going out home. They want to decrease your plant

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<v Speaker 1>count from twelve to six, so your maxib six, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is a little ridiculous because you voted twelve

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<v Speaker 1>in so getting that pass the if the people, the lawmakers,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of lawmakers don't understand a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>within cannabis, and you can see that when they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>stuff because they also want to cap milligrams at one hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>million edibles at one hundred milligrams, which is funny because

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan we did start at one hundred and then we

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<v Speaker 1>opened it up to two hundred. So like seeing them

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<v Speaker 1>go want to cap it at a hundred, It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>why would you be doing this when you could look

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<v Speaker 1>at the state above you, your big brother, and say,

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<v Speaker 1>oh hey, look at these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at what they're doing, like people on Ohio wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to call us that. But then no, that's why

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<v Speaker 2>I said it. No, Yeah, I said fuck Ohio. I mean, whoa,

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<v Speaker 2>you really feel man.

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<v Speaker 1>But then they also want to decrease your extracts, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of your concentra extracts. So that'd be like

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<v Speaker 1>your vapes, that would be your rosin, that'd be your crumble,

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<v Speaker 1>that'd be your shatter, you're all your live resident all

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<v Speaker 1>that crap from down from ninety percent to a max

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<v Speaker 1>of seventy percent, which I think is crazy because some

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<v Speaker 1>people do need the higher dose of concentrates and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of great rosin I see test that seventy six percent,

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<v Speaker 1>So you're gonna get rid of a lot of good product.

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<v Speaker 1>Then also, the bill would raise the cost. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a ten percent tax at the point of sale.

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<v Speaker 1>The GOP wants it at fifteen, which isn't too much

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<v Speaker 1>of a hike. I mean we're at sixteen total, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But then their governor wants increased at the twenty. He's like, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I want increase to the twenty. And it's like my

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<v Speaker 1>mind goes okay, okay. So all these people they see

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<v Speaker 1>what cannabis is doing right groovy, They see they can

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<v Speaker 1>bring in money and all this, and then they're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's text the hell out of it. But it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>once you do that, like you stated a couple minutes ago,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to push people away. And here's the thing, Ohio,

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<v Speaker 1>such a new market, why would you try to stripe it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like right now you say cost your double what a

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan is right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it said in the article to Ohio Capital Journal.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is interesting because I expected it to be a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more because I didn't think they had as

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<v Speaker 1>many businesses operational, you know, so I wouldn't even expect it.

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<v Speaker 1>I could expect it to be three times more. But

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<v Speaker 1>once you do this, you're going to raise the prices,

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<v Speaker 1>which is going to cost more, and people might be

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<v Speaker 1>going to Michigan, they might be going back to the

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<v Speaker 1>black market. I overall think and this is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a trend through. The whole thing is I just think

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<v Speaker 1>lawmakers need to be educated on this, because the whole

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<v Speaker 1>reason to legalize cannabis was to get to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of the black market, Like that was the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're able to make money, the states are able to

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<v Speaker 1>make money, the city's able to make money, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was to get stop stop getting people throwing people away

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<v Speaker 1>for jail for a gram or two or whatever. Because

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<v Speaker 1>we have twenty five states that are legal, and we

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<v Speaker 1>have over thirty states that are medicinally legal, so obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we see some type of value here. But when you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to restrict an industry that's still in its like

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<v Speaker 1>baby infancy stage, like you're just putting clamps on it

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not letting it grow. Like this is Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you're doing, but this could be

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<v Speaker 1>pretty big for your state. And I hate to say

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<v Speaker 1>that because we're in Michigan. We get tons of traffic

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<v Speaker 1>and sales up Michigan allegedly, right doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Matter, No one's going to care over here.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like, when you do this, why why Because

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<v Speaker 1>you see a little bit of revenue that you can make,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you think long term if you don't do this,

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<v Speaker 1>that you might be able to increase your revenue long

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<v Speaker 1>term instead of getting a big chunk like in the

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<v Speaker 1>first two three years when you increase taxes and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, because after two three years,

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<v Speaker 1>people will start going to the black market. They will

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<v Speaker 1>go find a product elsewhere because if your product isn't

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<v Speaker 1>get on the shelves, they're going to go somewhere else

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<v Speaker 1>to get said product. Because cannabis people have been getting

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<v Speaker 1>for years, like illegal or legal. So so this just

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<v Speaker 1>hurts me that, like Ohio, a year and two months

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<v Speaker 1>into recreational marijuana, you already have lawmakers and going insane,

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<v Speaker 1>Like dude, least wait for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like why why else would you be rushing this state

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<v Speaker 2>the state bill fifty six, you know, like why else?

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's nothing to do with trying to get more money.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just think, you know, we're seeing this trend

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<v Speaker 2>of just trying to get people to give money get

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<v Speaker 2>money from cannabis companies, because like you said, there's that

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<v Speaker 2>lack of understanding that like this these you know, these

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<v Speaker 2>cannabis companies, you know, they they deal with different things

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<v Speaker 2>than other businesses. Safe, yeah, they don't say banking. They

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<v Speaker 2>have so many like layers of discriminatory things that cannabis

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<v Speaker 2>companies just have to deal with that I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>the the regulators know or they don't or they're ignoring.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't out that you weren't alive, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Like or the regulars like just they I don't like.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is the information so blatantly out there and

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<v Speaker 2>articles and information and if you just went and asked

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<v Speaker 2>your communities, that it's clear that these lawmakers are just ignoring.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is the point where like, especially if in

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<v Speaker 2>your register your representatives. But anyone who does Eurocal representative,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't make sense similar what's going on in your Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>But someone in Michigan and my Canapros group did that.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're in Ohio, also read out your state representative.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which I'm sure you already heard about it, but

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<v Speaker 1>And if you didn't hear about it, we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>It's just weird that people assume there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would agree with that, and I'm all rolling

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<v Speaker 2>So this was an interesting article. This one's not any

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<v Speaker 1>back to vets, which that was one reason. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very military theme. They have Healer Indica Warriors Sativa,

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<v Speaker 2>master behind nine to eleven. If you don't know, if

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<v Speaker 2>but during a COVID operation in Pac Santos eleven you're

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<v Speaker 2>well actually no, that's why I was doing the math.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, could you be old enough now? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you would be twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you didn't learn about it in high school

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<v Speaker 1>or anything that I don't know. But no.

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<v Speaker 2>But so it's interesting, you know, like like Dave said,

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<v Speaker 2>that's really cool to see someone doing some about the vets.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think it's interesting to have that military theme

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<v Speaker 2>because sometimes when you talk about cannabis, you talked about

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<v Speaker 2>someone in the military. It's so, but almost don't go

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<v Speaker 2>hand in hand, you know, although they should with PTSD.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it the ra is that is that the

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<v Speaker 1>the veterans, they don't even a lot of them don't

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<v Speaker 1>of them. A lot of veterans suffer from PTSD from

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<v Speaker 2>I mean just anything. I mean you have to do

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<v Speaker 2>civilian life that I don't think civilians can understand, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we can't even fathom to think about what

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<v Speaker 1>they do. We just see what they do with movies

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, oh, I think I could do that,

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<v Speaker 1>And you're like no, no, no, no, you know the

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff of the movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I thought it was cool. Like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>everything's themed, uh for military.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the approach, you know, unique, very interesting, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you want to call it. But it's very unique to itself.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love the idea because you don't see enough

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<v Speaker 2>of it. You know, there are vets here. We always

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<v Speaker 2>see some who is the guy that speaks Blake on

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<v Speaker 2>his name. Forgive me Jamie, if you're in the comments,

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<v Speaker 2>are listening. But there is a guy who always talks

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<v Speaker 2>it's just because it needs it needs to be discussed,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it does, man, it does. And there's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>huge group of people, a lot and some of them

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<v Speaker 1>are even homeless, and they're out there fighting for our

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<v Speaker 1>I love seeing him do this. I hope his brand

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<v Speaker 1>does well in the state. I hope it's I hope

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<v Speaker 1>the flowers good. Right, Yeah, but it's so hard Soho.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be in Soho. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the Soho stories are something those saying I don't

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<v Speaker 1>a good product because I love the backing behind it,

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<v Speaker 1>giving it back to a lot of the vets. And

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<v Speaker 1>like we said, the packaging is all catered military st

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's going to hit home with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>or family, and a lot of people have.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone there family. I'm I've come from military.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I have something too. Uncles or uncles.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're if you're dabbing smoking with us, let

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<v Speaker 2>us know what your David is smoking on the comments

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<v Speaker 2>always I'm dabbing on some gushers.

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<v Speaker 1>At Calhoun Korean by Kinship.

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<v Speaker 2>So I forgot I have that cannoby up here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>put that down, so doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>We got the cannoby up here. And that's that the

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<v Speaker 1>Apex collabing. If you don't, If you're not familiar with Apex,

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<v Speaker 1>go check out our episode January first with Eddie, owner

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<v Speaker 1>and operator of Apax Cannabis. He's got a great story too,

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<v Speaker 1>sad stories. It's sad, but also it's very motivating and

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<v Speaker 1>what he does, and he does a lot, so appreciate you, Iddie.

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<v Speaker 1>We've still got to come out, so if you're listening,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be coming out here in a couple of months,

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<v Speaker 1>probably probably towards spring. But yeah, let's shop into our

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<v Speaker 1>next article here, groovy. I'm wanted to jump into Minnesota

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<v Speaker 1>real quick. Briefly, I thought the Minnesota stuff and it

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<v Speaker 2>Just Jackson.

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<v Speaker 1>That's going on within trying to opening up licenses and

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<v Speaker 1>top of that, Jess Jackson also has a self help

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<v Speaker 1>book she wrote as well too, I want to mention.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, she's a social equity director out there in Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember if we talked about this. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we did discuss that they're accepting license applications, but they are.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it came up. It's funny about it's rebringing this, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because I feel like we got the four War one

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<v Speaker 1>We did, we did, But before we jump into that,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want a real quick mention that I thought

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<v Speaker 1>this was even cool. Minnesota tribes can open up five

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<v Speaker 1>cannabis shops potentially under the.

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<v Speaker 2>She did bring that up that they were starting out,

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<v Speaker 2>but he didn't say how many.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is outside the reservation though, so it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>even have to be on their land.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't know how Vegas was with new that wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>on land, was it? I thought it was just the

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<v Speaker 2>owners were I thought I thought that was on land. Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I could be wrong. I didn't guess I

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<v Speaker 2>just figured because it's right down town.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the Assumption Lounge, I mean it is desert and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>No I know, I I guess I don't know where

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, I thought you'd have to go into

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<v Speaker 2>a certain area. That's all right. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>that works. I've just never been on a reservation.

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<v Speaker 1>Some reason. I think it was reservation because that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I was able to open on the Consumption Lounge. But

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<v Speaker 1>I could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I'm just one. I don't hear questioning.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not questioning what you're saying. I'm questioning, like I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder if they're taking a similar model to like Vegas,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're taking that model, you know, more equity approach

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<v Speaker 2>on it, right man, because there's when there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of hardships. Man. Like I said, people don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>really think about equity versus quality. But equity is giving

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<v Speaker 2>people even an advantage to give an equal playing field,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think some people forget about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought it was unique that if this does

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<v Speaker 1>go through and they're able to open off off Land,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's huge because then you're able to hit

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<v Speaker 1>crazy different, They're able to hit everybody like everyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you said, everyone's get a fair opportunity to hit

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<v Speaker 1>every every consumer out there. When it's just on the

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<v Speaker 1>land and you're just in that spot, they got to

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<v Speaker 1>how are they getting people? And you can't advertise right,

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<v Speaker 1>like so like you have to have something driving them there.

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<v Speaker 1>So do they have is it like here? I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with UH reservations or Native American land out in Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>but like here in Michigan we have was it Soreing

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles Land? You have a casino there and people would

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<v Speaker 1>go there to the casino and then maybe you'd have

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<v Speaker 1>a shop there. Like that's what I'm thinking, Like, what's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna drive people consumers to the land. But if you're

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<v Speaker 1>able to open it up outside of the reservation land,

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<v Speaker 1>that's huge because then you've got you got you could

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<v Speaker 1>do different areas in the state and have your products showcased.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true equity in that in my because you're allowed

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<v Speaker 1>You know adding to my like and here in Michigan

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<v Speaker 1>you can't even get your product in metric. We found

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<v Speaker 1>Summer which is crazy. I mean, I mean you had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea like Summer mentioned.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like what because that's what. That's what I

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<v Speaker 2>also wonder is I I'm curious how Minnesota is doing,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wonder if you can get into the metric mark.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you're not, if you're not opening up on

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<v Speaker 1>your land, I'm assuming you're allowed to, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>just should say you can do.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember bringing up that they can they can cross over.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the stipulations and what, but like that,

421
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<v Speaker 2>that's that's awesome. And I imagine Jess had something to

422
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<v Speaker 2>do with that, you know, I don't know, or maybe

423
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<v Speaker 2>our predecessors. But that's really cool because when you talk

424
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<v Speaker 2>about even places like Michigan who don't have that advantage,

425
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<v Speaker 2>like I think that's very because, like you said, you're

426
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<v Speaker 2>forcing people to have to go to one specific location,

427
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<v Speaker 2>which especially how we know how metric cannabis works. A

428
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<v Speaker 2>lot of this is convenience. You know a lot of

429
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<v Speaker 2>people go to the disco that's close to them, are

430
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<v Speaker 2>on their way.

431
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<v Speaker 1>I know that, and you see that as more and

432
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<v Speaker 1>more cities open up, people are going less and less

433
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<v Speaker 1>to their older shot that they used to go to.

434
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<v Speaker 1>Or if you've got good deals, people will go for deals.

435
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<v Speaker 1>Like if you've got deals, people will search out those deals.

436
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<v Speaker 1>I mean that that is something that no matter what,

437
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<v Speaker 1>you put a deal, but it's like you put a

438
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<v Speaker 1>great deal on the fucking TV. People are going but.

439
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<v Speaker 2>Again things the deals has, it's that mark. It's that

440
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<v Speaker 2>consumer too, right, you know.

441
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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. But also going back to Minnesota quick, uh, the

442
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<v Speaker 1>Cannabis Agency that MCA, which is Minnesota's canabis agency, begets

443
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<v Speaker 1>accepting licenseee applications for pop businesses. Applications for most license

444
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<v Speaker 1>types will be accepted starting Tuesday, which is I'm assuming

445
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<v Speaker 1>next Tuesday or this Tuesday. This article came out literally

446
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<v Speaker 1>like today, so today, then Tuesday through March fourteenth, licenses

447
00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:14.119
<v Speaker 1>would be scheduled and awarded and then the war awarded.

448
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<v Speaker 2>It's not exactly that wasn't written great. I didn't say

449
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<v Speaker 2>which Tuesday, just says Tuesday. Overall.

450
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<v Speaker 1>Overall, they're starting to open up and you're be able

451
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<v Speaker 1>to get a license. So it's only gonna be a

452
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<v Speaker 1>matter of time before they have recreational sales of more

453
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<v Speaker 1>product there in Stas. I know they have drinks because

454
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<v Speaker 1>Jess was saying.

455
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<v Speaker 2>This, Minnesota's doing things right. And I'm not just saying

456
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<v Speaker 2>that because Jess was just on our podcast. It just

457
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<v Speaker 2>you know, it just sounds like they're no I think

458
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<v Speaker 2>with the equity status. Yeah, I think that's amazing because

459
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<v Speaker 2>I think it would be sweet if they were able

460
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<v Speaker 2>to do that here in the state of Michigan, you know,

461
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<v Speaker 2>if they want, if they could open up in different

462
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<v Speaker 2>areas or even get their product in our market.

463
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<v Speaker 1>You know.

464
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think it's as fair the way we're

465
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<v Speaker 2>doing it over here. I think you're kind of being like, yeah, yeah,

466
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<v Speaker 2>you can do.

467
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<v Speaker 1>It too, but just to your just like almost just

468
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<v Speaker 1>your people though.

469
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<v Speaker 2>Right, and exactly That's what I'm saying. It's but it's

470
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<v Speaker 2>like it's still its own, its own way. It's like

471
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<v Speaker 2>you do that, but over there, like yeah, you know

472
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<v Speaker 2>something I like when Minnesota's doing We'll keep our eyes

473
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<v Speaker 2>on it, like and exciting to see what the taxes

474
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<v Speaker 2>eight months especially you know in Jess, I'm sure we'll

475
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<v Speaker 2>be making ourselves out there. That's kind of our plan,

476
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<v Speaker 2>you know.

477
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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. And before we get to our big big I

478
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<v Speaker 1>want to jump into that c cell on the lawsuit.

479
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<v Speaker 1>I think the I think the RFK and then the

480
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<v Speaker 1>Michigan topic are going to be a little.

481
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<v Speaker 2>Bit more popitive. Yeah, and I have a video I

482
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<v Speaker 2>want to play.

483
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<v Speaker 3>So yeah.

484
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<v Speaker 2>This next one is, as Dave said, is about on

485
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<v Speaker 2>a ce Cell lawsuit going on.

486
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<v Speaker 1>With familiar with ce Cell. They're the vay hardware for

487
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<v Speaker 1>a hardware for your FAPs.

488
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<v Speaker 2>Actually, I think my lower third went away crazy, but

489
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<v Speaker 2>either way, this uh, it's new lawsuit accusing ce sell

490
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<v Speaker 2>price fixing and monopoly tactics. I believe it was Active

491
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<v Speaker 2>was the company who called them out on this, which

492
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<v Speaker 2>was the party we went to, and they remember went

493
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<v Speaker 2>to that party was an active party, So that's why

494
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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, no way, it was a fun party.

495
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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to our buddy who gotta say.

496
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, So for sure, I mean, so yeah,

497
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<v Speaker 2>this is pretty crazy because I mean, I think things

498
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<v Speaker 2>like this kind of happen in industry, but very secretively

499
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<v Speaker 2>because it's owned by like one company way up high

500
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<v Speaker 2>and there's a bunch of like you know what I mean.

501
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<v Speaker 2>So it's it's kind of nice to see this stuff.

502
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<v Speaker 2>You can be called out sea self. You don't know

503
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<v Speaker 2>there they are one of the leading you have to

504
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<v Speaker 2>say this, they are one of the leading companies in vapes.

505
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, when everyone everyone probably listening that smokes vape

506
00:21:34.200 --> 00:21:36.119
<v Speaker 1>has probably used the ce cell see self matter.

507
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, I mean, like I sure I love the

508
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<v Speaker 2>O two's now, but ce cells have been around.

509
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<v Speaker 1>For what we've been The funny thing about this, though,

510
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<v Speaker 1>is like not funny. We do see this happen because

511
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<v Speaker 1>Puffco had a lawsuit about their tech, you know, I

512
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<v Speaker 1>mean it's not price and fixment, but like selling off

513
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<v Speaker 1>of their tech. So when people see stuff and they

514
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<v Speaker 1>see it working, people are always gonna try to make

515
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<v Speaker 1>a quick buck off of it. Yeah, I'm gonna think

516
00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:03.599
<v Speaker 1>goes Tanahem with this. That's actually the that doesn't make

517
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<v Speaker 1>sense what I'm saying.

518
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<v Speaker 2>He digressed.

519
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<v Speaker 1>But you didn't hear Puff Goo did when they're lawsuit.

520
00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:09.880
<v Speaker 2>But what you're saying is that you hear about companies

521
00:22:09.920 --> 00:22:12.960
<v Speaker 2>having lawsuit issues because when you are similar technology, what's

522
00:22:13.000 --> 00:22:16.079
<v Speaker 2>separating you is like hairs, you know what I mean,

523
00:22:16.200 --> 00:22:18.759
<v Speaker 2>like really like I mean, I understand everyone can probably

524
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<v Speaker 2>gonn yell my chat, oh puff go this carda This

525
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, at the end of the day, it's a vaporizer, right,

526
00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:25.200
<v Speaker 2>like Karda has some certain perks, you know, I mean

527
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<v Speaker 2>I have. I'm in the puff Goo family, like I

528
00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:29.640
<v Speaker 2>have a few, so it's like I can't not puff go.

529
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<v Speaker 2>But at the end of the day, it's like you can't.

530
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<v Speaker 2>You know, you're splitting hairs and you're really just picking

531
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<v Speaker 2>what works for you, right, Like I like this is dry,

532
00:22:35.559 --> 00:22:37.759
<v Speaker 2>like the modules side. You know, this just works for me.

533
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<v Speaker 2>But I want to quote Michael Brosegarts, he's going mess

534
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<v Speaker 2>your name of it, but he's the president of Next

535
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<v Speaker 2>Level Venters Active and actually, really forgive me if we

536
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<v Speaker 2>met you, but I don't think we met you. But

537
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<v Speaker 2>the pointiff price fixing allegations are no surprise. Active uh

538
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<v Speaker 2>is the first party to hold s'more legally accountables more

539
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<v Speaker 2>as one of the leaders this SEASL for his anti

540
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<v Speaker 2>competitive conduct, and preliminary expert damages analysis suggests that Active

541
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<v Speaker 2>is entitled to nearly two hundred million as the direct

542
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<v Speaker 2>result of s'more as a legal contact conduct in the

543
00:23:09.359 --> 00:23:13.319
<v Speaker 2>cannabis vate market. The clact the class plaintiffs maybe owed

544
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<v Speaker 2>even more so they're just saying, just our company is

545
00:23:16.200 --> 00:23:20.839
<v Speaker 2>owed this much. It's insane, Yeah, and like that that's

546
00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:25.799
<v Speaker 2>that's what's crazy to me, is that that's what they're claiming.

547
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<v Speaker 2>That's a a lot so according to the comments, MORE

548
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<v Speaker 2>and its distributors agreed not to compete with each other,

549
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<v Speaker 2>enforcementum price agreements, and leverage patient litigations to snap rivals.

550
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<v Speaker 2>The lawsuit follows the legal battles including the ITC Trade

551
00:23:42.519 --> 00:23:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Commission case which More accused multiple US vape companies of

552
00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:49.440
<v Speaker 2>patent patent infringement. So this is the same guy who's

553
00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:52.359
<v Speaker 2>already been kind of people for other things. You know,

554
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<v Speaker 2>So many smaller businesses were forced other market due to

555
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<v Speaker 2>high litigation just of that Trade commissioned lawsuits, So he

556
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<v Speaker 2>kind of already was forced people out, so he's not

557
00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:02.279
<v Speaker 2>He's already even kind of like, you know, done some.

558
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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like some of these big cannabis companies that

559
00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:07.119
<v Speaker 1>have all these retails and then not retails.

560
00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:09.720
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's like despite all this rulings, More allegedly

561
00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:12.559
<v Speaker 2>continue to keep following lawsuits against competitors, why I maintain

562
00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:15.880
<v Speaker 2>a restrictive pricing agreements with its distributors. So basically it

563
00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:18.480
<v Speaker 2>was like he was forcing people out of the market

564
00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:25.039
<v Speaker 2>with these lawsuits while secretly having price promises behind the doors,

565
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<v Speaker 2>even though he promised to keep price at this with

566
00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:29.839
<v Speaker 2>this meeting with these people. So he's pretty much just like, yeah, yeah,

567
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<v Speaker 2>i'll keep it at that price, I'll do it for

568
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<v Speaker 2>lower That's kind of how I took it. And because

569
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<v Speaker 2>of that, active is like I lost out on two

570
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<v Speaker 2>hundred million dollars in sales because of your bullshit.

571
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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of money.

572
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<v Speaker 2>And think about all the other people who were probably

573
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<v Speaker 2>like how much money did they lose from this?

574
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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

575
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and this is all alleged allegedly like you know,

576
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<v Speaker 2>faith companies, But it's it's definitely an interesting lawsuit because

577
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've never heard of something price fixing him

578
00:24:54.400 --> 00:24:57.000
<v Speaker 2>and knobly tactics, because that is essentially what you're doing,

579
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<v Speaker 2>is if you're forcing other people out the market with

580
00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:02.000
<v Speaker 2>lawsuits while your distributors, of course are going to keep

581
00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:03.720
<v Speaker 2>buying more c selle because they were getting it for

582
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<v Speaker 2>different prices than what you're degreeing to with everyone else.

583
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<v Speaker 1>Like shady, very shaddy.

584
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not a fan, not shocked per se.

585
00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:14.559
<v Speaker 1>But it is like it's in the cannabis industry, bro, Like,

586
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<v Speaker 1>I'm not shocking anything. A lot of it's just like

587
00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:20.400
<v Speaker 1>just because where it's came from. Obviously this happens in

588
00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:25.319
<v Speaker 1>other businesses, other areas of business, you know, maybe agriculture

589
00:25:25.480 --> 00:25:28.799
<v Speaker 1>tax something like that. But just just within the Cannus history,

590
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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of stuff surprises me anymore, is what

591
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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

592
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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean it's cutthrow. It is cut throw, it's

593
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<v Speaker 2>not And that's why I think it's like when we

594
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<v Speaker 2>go back to the other articles like Ohio people and Michigan,

595
00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:40.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, increasing tax, It's like, what do you think

596
00:25:40.319 --> 00:25:43.000
<v Speaker 2>everyone's just rolling in dough over here? Now, there's a

597
00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:44.799
<v Speaker 2>lot of companies because there's a lot of passion in

598
00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:47.799
<v Speaker 2>hisury now because there's a lot of money. That's what

599
00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:50.039
<v Speaker 2>people don't understand. There's a lot of competition because this

600
00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:52.519
<v Speaker 2>is people's dream. This is like you know, some people

601
00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:54.480
<v Speaker 2>want to want to go to the NFL, some people

602
00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:56.279
<v Speaker 2>want to have their own canvas company. I swear to god,

603
00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:57.880
<v Speaker 2>it's the same ship. Like when you talk David, it's

604
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<v Speaker 2>a passion right, Like it's like me performing Big Sage

605
00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:03.119
<v Speaker 2>is a dream man like. So it's it's not just

606
00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:05.920
<v Speaker 2>an industry, it's an industry built on people's dreams too.

607
00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:08.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's not like we're out here like making socks,

608
00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:13.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, not knocking making socks. He needs well, it's necessary,

609
00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:17.240
<v Speaker 2>but it's not as as fun and lucrative. I don't know.

610
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<v Speaker 1>Very true, very true, very true. You don't know a

611
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<v Speaker 1>fun fact though it's about socks. Yeah, it is about sacks.

612
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<v Speaker 1>It's my fun fact about secks. I guess wouldn't it

613
00:26:24.839 --> 00:26:27.279
<v Speaker 1>be cool if you could have if you had a

614
00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>new pair of socks every day? Like new pairs of

615
00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:31.680
<v Speaker 1>socks are so comforted.

616
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<v Speaker 2>So it's funny, Russell Simmons, you think you used to

617
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<v Speaker 2>do this, And it's funny because I heard about this

618
00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:37.359
<v Speaker 2>on like a Cribs episode, and you like, I throw

619
00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:38.880
<v Speaker 2>up my socks every day. I was like, man, that's

620
00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:40.920
<v Speaker 2>so wasteful, but I was like, dude, So it's kind

621
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<v Speaker 2>of cool though, because you know, there's so much like

622
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<v Speaker 2>the materials perfect.

623
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<v Speaker 1>It's like very comfy, very wasteful, very very wasteful. Saying

624
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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it was a good idea. I did

625
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<v Speaker 1>say it was a good idea. I'll tell you let it,

626
00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:53.440
<v Speaker 1>but I never said anything about environment with it. But

627
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<v Speaker 1>does it not bad idea? Though? You wouldn't Who would

628
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<v Speaker 1>not want that?

629
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<v Speaker 2>Come on? Cool?

630
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<v Speaker 1>Cool, cool, Try to get off something cannabis and this

631
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:03.680
<v Speaker 1>guy just stares at me.

632
00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:08.039
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm if you said something made sense, I'll say.

633
00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna got the rest of the episode.

634
00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:15.720
<v Speaker 2>Sick, sick sick. So no, I'm just messagy man. But no,

635
00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:19.319
<v Speaker 2>it's interesting. It is a cutthroat industry out there, It

636
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:21.480
<v Speaker 2>really is. I mean, it's crazy that this is where

637
00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:26.880
<v Speaker 2>we come down to. But here we are. You know, well,

638
00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:31.359
<v Speaker 2>this next one is kind of frustrating. We'll say that

639
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:33.839
<v Speaker 2>at the least. This is the RFK one. So the

640
00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:35.680
<v Speaker 2>reason why we were kind of delaying this, I'm gonna

641
00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:37.359
<v Speaker 2>go ahead and pack a damn before I watch this

642
00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:39.000
<v Speaker 2>because I want to. I want to show you guys

643
00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:42.440
<v Speaker 2>a clip we found. We found this article which had

644
00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:44.920
<v Speaker 2>like a minute and a half clip of this fifteen

645
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:51.279
<v Speaker 2>minute interview between a Fox uh News anchor that I'm

646
00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:53.920
<v Speaker 2>not a huge fan of because she clearly like does

647
00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:56.680
<v Speaker 2>not like caneism, clearly like she's been I bet you

648
00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:59.759
<v Speaker 2>she's the lead of all this when we talked about

649
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:04.759
<v Speaker 2>it is psychosis, like it's it's her quote. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

650
00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Ingram like you never say your last name, so I

651
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:11.640
<v Speaker 2>want to like butcher it. But whatever. Yeah, So we're

652
00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:14.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna play this little clip and just RFK JN you're

653
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:16.400
<v Speaker 2>talking about, and the quote is I think I don't

654
00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:20.720
<v Speaker 2>I want to mess it up our pajuic is. Marijuana

655
00:28:20.759 --> 00:28:25.200
<v Speaker 2>can have catastrophic impacts on customers. So I just thought

656
00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:26.839
<v Speaker 2>that was interesting. I'm gonna take a dab.

657
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:27.519
<v Speaker 1>Why we do so?

658
00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:29.279
<v Speaker 2>And I we haven't watched a video in a while

659
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:31.680
<v Speaker 2>on here, so I thought that would be pretty cool.

660
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh of course it's playing already. Darn it. I'm gonna

661
00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:40.519
<v Speaker 2>una rewind. There we go.

662
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:43.319
<v Speaker 1>A h.

663
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Is it working?

664
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:48.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

665
00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:53.599
<v Speaker 2>It pausing? Why does it keep pausing every time I

666
00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:58.039
<v Speaker 2>do them? It's every now, I don't hear it.

667
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:01.119
<v Speaker 1>N you knows.

668
00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna run it back.

669
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:07.440
<v Speaker 3>One even covered by the New York Times, multiple liar.

670
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:13.839
<v Speaker 2>All right, so I ran it back. Here's that a video,

671
00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:14.559
<v Speaker 2>here's that clip.

672
00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:16.880
<v Speaker 4>If you care about public health, you've got nothing to

673
00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:20.559
<v Speaker 4>worry about if you're in there working for the pharmaceutical industries.

674
00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:22.559
<v Speaker 4>And I'd say you should move out work for the

675
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:23.759
<v Speaker 4>pharmaceutical industry.

676
00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:25.960
<v Speaker 2>So why not just make it official today?

677
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:29.799
<v Speaker 3>Senator Pete Ricketts said that you'd follow the science on

678
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:33.559
<v Speaker 3>marijuana's harms, which are increasingly documented. There have been two

679
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.680
<v Speaker 3>recent studies saying that pot causes psychosis one from Canada.

680
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:40.440
<v Speaker 3>One even covered by the New York Times multiple pieces.

681
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Actually in the Times, it.

682
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:45.720
<v Speaker 3>Increases the chances of death. Are you concerned about the

683
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:50.960
<v Speaker 3>normalization of high THGC marijuana, especially among our young people

684
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:52.599
<v Speaker 3>and what might you do about it?

685
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:54.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I am worried about it. And you know, I've

686
00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:56.880
<v Speaker 4>been in recovery for forty two years. I go to

687
00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:01.200
<v Speaker 4>twelve step meetings or every day, and so I hear

688
00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:05.720
<v Speaker 4>stories all the time of people of the impacts of

689
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:10.039
<v Speaker 4>marijuana on people and really catastrophic.

690
00:30:09.559 --> 00:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Impacts on them.

691
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:15.279
<v Speaker 4>That worry also has to be balanced about, you know,

692
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:18.680
<v Speaker 4>the impacts that we had before the twenty five states

693
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:22.079
<v Speaker 4>now legalized marijuana, but we had about a third of

694
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.839
<v Speaker 4>our prison population that was in jail because of marijuana fans.

695
00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:27.319
<v Speaker 2>It's that's something we don't want either.

696
00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:31.680
<v Speaker 4>We have because of the legalization of recreational marijuana in

697
00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:34.960
<v Speaker 4>twenty five states, we have now a capacity to really

698
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:38.880
<v Speaker 4>study it and to compare it to states. Studies look bad, right,

699
00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:41.599
<v Speaker 4>and we need to do studies. We need to figure

700
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:44.039
<v Speaker 4>out and then we need to we need to implement

701
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:44.799
<v Speaker 4>policies to.

702
00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:50.519
<v Speaker 2>Address anti abortion. Okay, we're gonna gun it out before

703
00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:53.400
<v Speaker 2>we get into that. So the thing is actually now

704
00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:56.599
<v Speaker 2>that I listen to this after like because the article.

705
00:30:58.079 --> 00:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So for me, it's it's it's kind of funny

706
00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:06.119
<v Speaker 1>where RFK stands because you can tell that it's somebody

707
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>higher ups because when he was running for president last year,

708
00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:12.799
<v Speaker 1>before he joined UH, he was for legalization of cannabis.

709
00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:15.599
<v Speaker 1>And then when he was transitioning on Trump's team, he

710
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:18.839
<v Speaker 1>was for cannabis legalization. And now that he's super close

711
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:21.880
<v Speaker 1>to being the the was it the health he's gonna

712
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:23.839
<v Speaker 1>be running the health department or whatever the fuck's doing.

713
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:28.359
<v Speaker 1>He's been pretty silent on this topic. So when he

714
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:30.960
<v Speaker 1>brings it up that it's cantistrophic, it's kind of it's

715
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:33.359
<v Speaker 1>kind of iron now ironic, it's just weird.

716
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:34.759
<v Speaker 2>And like, listen, I want to I'm gonna have sympathy

717
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:36.640
<v Speaker 2>for this guy because he went through recovery. Sure, I

718
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:39.799
<v Speaker 2>understand that, but first off, I mean, you're talking to

719
00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:43.720
<v Speaker 2>people who have you know, who went through some shit like,

720
00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:46.559
<v Speaker 2>so it's probably not just from cannabis. So I feel

721
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:49.640
<v Speaker 2>like he's quoting people who use weed, like just people

722
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:51.559
<v Speaker 2>who use weed, you know. I feel like this is

723
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:53.839
<v Speaker 2>very out of context. And that's why I'm want to

724
00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:56.680
<v Speaker 2>clarify that even this article was very grabbing in that

725
00:31:56.799 --> 00:31:59.960
<v Speaker 2>stereotypical bullshit media just trying to get you to clar

726
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:03.039
<v Speaker 2>article and get angry, because when you really watch this article,

727
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:07.480
<v Speaker 2>it's just this Ingram person again wording things how she

728
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:10.519
<v Speaker 2>needs to for propaganda. And this is how I stay

729
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:12.799
<v Speaker 2>away from Fox when they talk about cannabis because it's

730
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.759
<v Speaker 2>very propaganda field. She was throwing in propaganda before he

731
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:17.920
<v Speaker 2>can even get words in there, like you could tell,

732
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:19.799
<v Speaker 2>like you said, he sounded hired. It was the most

733
00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:22.000
<v Speaker 2>political answer I've ever heard in my life, Like all right,

734
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:25.039
<v Speaker 2>besides that little bit of relation, which he tried to do,

735
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:27.440
<v Speaker 2>and that's where I'm like, I don't even know where

736
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:30.480
<v Speaker 2>that came from. Man, you can't use one person who's

737
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:31.519
<v Speaker 2>cannabis and be like, oh.

738
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Catastrophic, Like bro, what The one thing he did say

739
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:38.039
<v Speaker 1>that I liked was that there's twenty five states legal.

740
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Now we have a lot of stays soere we can

741
00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:40.039
<v Speaker 1>do a lot of research.

742
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:42.400
<v Speaker 2>And notice that's when she shifted the conversation. She's like, well,

743
00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:45.160
<v Speaker 2>anti abortion, she shifted the conversation. That's why it was

744
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:47.000
<v Speaker 2>so out of context because what she was trying to

745
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:50.079
<v Speaker 2>do is prod to get these responses on cannabis. And

746
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:51.680
<v Speaker 2>then as soon as he started talking about, well the

747
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:53.920
<v Speaker 2>research is actually and we need to focus on research,

748
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:57.000
<v Speaker 2>She's like, well, let's let's move on ironic.

749
00:32:57.440 --> 00:32:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Well it's the Fox people.

750
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:02.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying ironic, just saying ironic. Hey man, I

751
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:05.079
<v Speaker 2>don't care who she's a tool for, just saying that's ironic.

752
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:08.480
<v Speaker 2>And then and then you're quoting your own psychotic, psychosist

753
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:10.839
<v Speaker 2>things like you were literally the person who talked about this,

754
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:14.359
<v Speaker 2>like I can't remember it, you can't get paid to

755
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:20.880
<v Speaker 2>do the article and then quote yourself. Yeah, this whole

756
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:23.720
<v Speaker 2>article is very propaganda and just trying to make RFK

757
00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:25.799
<v Speaker 2>look look at back. Granted, I don't agree with this

758
00:33:26.359 --> 00:33:28.720
<v Speaker 2>statement there in the beginning, but I truly feel like

759
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:30.880
<v Speaker 2>he's just kind of being a tool here. So it's

760
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:33.359
<v Speaker 2>like I really can't blame him, but he's really all

761
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:36.839
<v Speaker 2>this is just obviously a controlled conversation. It's all a tool. No,

762
00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:38.599
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm trying to say. This whole conversation was

763
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:43.039
<v Speaker 2>like all right, they this was so scripted, like media

764
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:46.839
<v Speaker 2>has become so much more entertainment and less actual reporting

765
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:52.440
<v Speaker 2>on news. It's like ridiculous and this is just propaganda off. Yeah, man,

766
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:55.000
<v Speaker 2>well just pisses me off. Like you're so like you're

767
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:58.319
<v Speaker 2>so desperate to get back, get attention, get clicks that

768
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:01.480
<v Speaker 2>you're not even reporting like true, you're just reporting what

769
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:07.920
<v Speaker 2>you know your demographic wants to hear. It's not like

770
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:10.320
<v Speaker 2>we don't We don't just say things about weed because

771
00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:12.199
<v Speaker 2>you want to hear them, you know what I mean,

772
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Like we just say what's going on, you know, that's

773
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:19.239
<v Speaker 2>how you report information, you know, and then we'll say, hey,

774
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:23.360
<v Speaker 2>but here's my thoughts and we separate it. That's frustrating, man.

775
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:25.840
<v Speaker 2>It's just so you still see propaganda in twenty twenty five,

776
00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:29.159
<v Speaker 2>you know. But Fox will also share the profit margins

777
00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:31.679
<v Speaker 2>and all the stock things like you know what I mean,

778
00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:37.000
<v Speaker 2>nobody comes to cannabis, like yep, that's the movie wild Man.

779
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:40.079
<v Speaker 2>All right. Well, and then this last one day wants

780
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:42.239
<v Speaker 2>to jump into or we want to jump too. We

781
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:45.639
<v Speaker 2>talked about it a bit on the wagon bake Every Saturday,

782
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:49.480
<v Speaker 2>uh nine to ten Eastern stand time. Well most Saturdays,

783
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:51.519
<v Speaker 2>I have some family stuff going on. This weekend so

784
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:55.280
<v Speaker 2>we're not doing this Saturday. But as long as they're

785
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:57.960
<v Speaker 2>not like issues, we're usually there. So check us out

786
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:06.559
<v Speaker 2>there on all the social medias. Yeah, I don't have

787
00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:08.159
<v Speaker 2>the lower third. Do you want to talk about it

788
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:08.840
<v Speaker 2>so I can do this.

789
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:13.039
<v Speaker 1>It's just a new tax proposal for cannabis that Wimmer's

790
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:18.880
<v Speaker 1>bringing up to uh, pretty much crush the cannabis industry.

791
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:21.679
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So here it is new tax on wholesale cannabis

792
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:26.280
<v Speaker 2>proposed by Whitmer. It's a tax that's gonna go in Michigan.

793
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:28.199
<v Speaker 2>We talked about in the way big, like I said,

794
00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:30.320
<v Speaker 2>but dig into a little bit deeper here, just to

795
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:35.320
<v Speaker 2>talk about our opinions less just reporting the chat ah.

796
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:38.719
<v Speaker 2>Like Dave saidould you say already dyeing industry, would you

797
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:40.920
<v Speaker 2>just say a little bit ago already struggling if.

798
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:43.280
<v Speaker 1>You said something, I don't know how exactly about how?

799
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:45.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but either way, the industry is already like suffering.

800
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:47.800
<v Speaker 2>It is, you know, it's already just just just trying

801
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:49.639
<v Speaker 2>to make ends meet. Everyone thinks there's a lot of money,

802
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:51.199
<v Speaker 2>but it's like people don't understand. It's like you may

803
00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:53.280
<v Speaker 2>there may be a million dollars in revenue but it's

804
00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:55.920
<v Speaker 2>like takes nine hundred thousand to make that million, you

805
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:58.079
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, and then there's overhead and you're

806
00:35:58.119 --> 00:35:59.760
<v Speaker 2>not getting right off. So there's a lot of bullshit.

807
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:04.239
<v Speaker 2>So this suggests that wholesale tax on cannabis product similar tobacco,

808
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:06.960
<v Speaker 2>is trying to raise four hundred and seventy million dollars

809
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:11.519
<v Speaker 2>for the roads. Where we've also heard in the where

810
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:13.440
<v Speaker 2>in the chat was brought up on Saturday that that's

811
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:15.760
<v Speaker 2>actually m DOT is actually trying to get closer to

812
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:17.920
<v Speaker 2>like two point five billion or three billion, so this

813
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:20.760
<v Speaker 2>is nowhere to year. They are just trying to make

814
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:22.960
<v Speaker 2>more money off this for the roads, and you know,

815
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:25.880
<v Speaker 2>it's it. That's a low blow for Michigan because everyone

816
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:29.280
<v Speaker 2>hates the roads here. Like you put anything behind fixing roads,

817
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:31.840
<v Speaker 2>most people are like, I'll listen. So it's like screw you.

818
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:35.679
<v Speaker 1>First off, whole campaigns logan back in twenty eighteen was

819
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>fixed the damn road. That's how she got elected.

820
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:40.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah I know, but like you know, the cannabis insitu

821
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:41.800
<v Speaker 2>is already paying for some of that. They're just trying

822
00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:43.639
<v Speaker 2>to increase to get more money, and they're trying to

823
00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:46.280
<v Speaker 2>say that this whole seal. And the thing about wholesale

824
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:48.320
<v Speaker 2>is like what we realized too about the chat is

825
00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:53.119
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people didn't realize what like the the

826
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:57.039
<v Speaker 2>white labeling is interesting in an industry where you take

827
00:36:57.079 --> 00:36:59.000
<v Speaker 2>a product and you sell to someone else so they

828
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.239
<v Speaker 2>can slap their logo on it for a discount of

829
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:02.800
<v Speaker 2>rate so they can make it for more money. Right,

830
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:05.599
<v Speaker 2>happens all the time in resale happens all the time

831
00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:09.159
<v Speaker 2>and all sorts of things. Absolutely, But people forget cannabis, right,

832
00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:10.960
<v Speaker 2>people forget because they just buy that bag and I'm like,

833
00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:13.159
<v Speaker 2>this is too gru it. Half people don't even read

834
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:16.679
<v Speaker 2>power by Produced by Grown in this LLC, like, which

835
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:21.960
<v Speaker 2>please do so it's all on there, yeah please. But

836
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:24.000
<v Speaker 2>so a lot of that gets done a lot of

837
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:26.480
<v Speaker 2>these companies that we love, Like sure they have those

838
00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:29.320
<v Speaker 2>those those apes, are those those turfs that you love.

839
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:32.000
<v Speaker 2>But like a lot of the money, half the money

840
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:33.880
<v Speaker 2>gets made by them just selling to someone else so

841
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:36.000
<v Speaker 2>they can make their own edibles, may throw it into

842
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:38.360
<v Speaker 2>pre rolls all this other stuff because a lot of

843
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:41.880
<v Speaker 2>these other companies aren't vertically integrated or aren't just doing

844
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:44.760
<v Speaker 2>it all them selves, singer source. So it's that it's

845
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:49.440
<v Speaker 2>affecting a lot of these companies who we love bottom end,

846
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:52.039
<v Speaker 2>so it's really gonna screw them, and when they're already

847
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:54.239
<v Speaker 2>struggling like and.

848
00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:56.079
<v Speaker 1>Then it's going to raise prices for all the consumers

849
00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:58.559
<v Speaker 1>here because people the prices and oouncels will probably double

850
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:00.760
<v Speaker 1>the concentrats. I don't know how high they will go,

851
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:02.400
<v Speaker 1>but they've ever heard flower double.

852
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:05.280
<v Speaker 2>When it's funny and wimmor goes, Hey, ours is the

853
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:08.639
<v Speaker 2>cheapest product anywhere, we should charge more for it, motherfucker.

854
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:11.440
<v Speaker 2>That's not how it works again, you just you shove

855
00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:11.960
<v Speaker 2>the price up.

856
00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:14.679
<v Speaker 1>Happening Cali. Look at their tax rates. I mean you

857
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:17.840
<v Speaker 1>have you have farmers that have were grown for years.

858
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:21.320
<v Speaker 1>They're crushing the reasons why we have medical cannabis, and

859
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:27.800
<v Speaker 1>they lost they lost their businesses because they can't you

860
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:30.119
<v Speaker 1>can't afford, you can't compete with taxes. And then people

861
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:31.719
<v Speaker 1>where they go to go to black market because the

862
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:34.360
<v Speaker 1>consumers aren't going to pay that extra thirty thirty five

863
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:37.239
<v Speaker 1>percent tax that keeps getting higher and higher. It's not

864
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.400
<v Speaker 1>worth it. We're getting the same product. But the businesses

865
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I understand, they can't. They can't afford to eat the

866
00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:44.320
<v Speaker 1>whole cost. That's too much goddamn money when they're barely

867
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:46.360
<v Speaker 1>making money. So it has to go to the consumers.

868
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:48.840
<v Speaker 1>And that's what sucks, because consumers are going to go

869
00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:51.760
<v Speaker 1>elsewhere and be like, yo, I can get this product

870
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:52.800
<v Speaker 1>for this price and.

871
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:55.679
<v Speaker 2>Man, the one million. It makes me mad or makes

872
00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:57.800
<v Speaker 2>me feel some type of way about this is the

873
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:01.360
<v Speaker 2>fact that it everyone goes, oh, they're going to go

874
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:04.320
<v Speaker 2>back to the illicit market, yeah, because it's only legal ish,

875
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Like you still can't just smoke in the public, Like,

876
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:09.840
<v Speaker 2>there's still a lot of regulations, right, there's I mean,

877
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:12.320
<v Speaker 2>you can't smell like weed or you can get searched, right.

878
00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:15.440
<v Speaker 2>I guess smoking in public is like down the road, right.

879
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:17.599
<v Speaker 2>But like my whole point is, there's a lot of

880
00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:20.000
<v Speaker 2>other things that are wrong in the industry. So it's

881
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:23.960
<v Speaker 2>frustrating to me that the focus is still on how

882
00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:26.920
<v Speaker 2>much money we can make off this industry that we

883
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:28.239
<v Speaker 2>don't even truly care about.

884
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:28.599
<v Speaker 3>No.

885
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I know, you still have cities that don't even opt

886
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:32.440
<v Speaker 1>into licenses yet they can.

887
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:33.760
<v Speaker 2>When there's still so many things that need to be

888
00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:36.079
<v Speaker 2>fixed in the industry. First for these because if you

889
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:39.679
<v Speaker 2>had safe banking in line. Right, you said that if

890
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:41.960
<v Speaker 2>you had that in line and these like this wouldn't

891
00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:44.320
<v Speaker 2>be so scary to all these people, right, Like, I'm

892
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:44.840
<v Speaker 2>not saying.

893
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:47.719
<v Speaker 1>This would still be pretty scared. I think, I guess

894
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:52.559
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Yeah, that's insane.

895
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:55.159
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm just trying to say, is that if it was,

896
00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:58.000
<v Speaker 2>if it really was a level playing field, you know,

897
00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:00.239
<v Speaker 2>this would just be normal fighting against it. But you're

898
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:02.960
<v Speaker 2>already putting it against people on there like down and outs.

899
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:05.599
<v Speaker 2>That's what's frustrating. I'm saying you're not going towards like

900
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:08.639
<v Speaker 2>you're not taxing people who are doing well. That's the

901
00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:11.599
<v Speaker 2>misunderstanding here. These candies companies aren't just raking the money.

902
00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:14.079
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I misspoke, but my point was to say they

903
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:16.599
<v Speaker 2>soon they're taking it from people doing well when you're not.

904
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:19.159
<v Speaker 2>You're taking people just struggling for their passions.

905
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:22.679
<v Speaker 1>If you got layoffs happening consistently here fighting so much shit, man,

906
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:26.519
<v Speaker 1>it's it's kind It's very sad actually, because you have

907
00:40:26.599 --> 00:40:30.719
<v Speaker 1>an industry that's doing that, it can has great potential,

908
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:32.599
<v Speaker 1>and it is doing well. I mean, you brought it

909
00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:35.079
<v Speaker 1>with over three billion, close to probably four billion last

910
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:39.639
<v Speaker 1>year in sales and it's just Michiganers love their weed.

911
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:42.840
<v Speaker 1>But like, why don't continue, You're gonna hurt it. You

912
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:45.199
<v Speaker 1>don't look what you're going to see. Cali, Ohio is

913
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:46.800
<v Speaker 1>going to get the same thing as us. People are

914
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:49.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna stop buying the money, and then people are going

915
00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:51.599
<v Speaker 1>what happened to the cannabis industry. It's gonna be all

916
00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:53.239
<v Speaker 1>the news, what happened to the cannabis industry.

917
00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:54.880
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be like, well, that's just like you were

918
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:57.480
<v Speaker 2>talking about Cali earlier, bro, you push these taxes up,

919
00:40:57.519 --> 00:40:58.840
<v Speaker 2>text up. People are just gonna go back to the

920
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:00.880
<v Speaker 2>legal market. And the reason why they're not afraid to

921
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:02.639
<v Speaker 2>go back to the legal market is because it's not

922
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:04.360
<v Speaker 2>fully like legal.

923
00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:06.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, I know a lot of us have came

924
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:08.599
<v Speaker 1>from the illegal market because a lot of that's how

925
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:11.360
<v Speaker 1>everyone had to do to get their cannabis. Besides, like five,

926
00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:13.440
<v Speaker 1>within like eight years, people some people have been able

927
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:15.000
<v Speaker 1>to go inside stores by legal.

928
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:17.199
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's just you're yeah, I remember the list

929
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:19.199
<v Speaker 2>of days pretty clearly, so you're not like, no.

930
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:22.079
<v Speaker 1>Dude, I remember I've met up everywhere you can possibly

931
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:25.480
<v Speaker 1>name to pick up dime a twenty. You know what,

932
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:27.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that we've gone everywhere. You know.

933
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, it's just they just I increasing taxes. It's

934
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:34.559
<v Speaker 2>just not the way to make more money with this.

935
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:37.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, you want to make more money, expand more

936
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:41.320
<v Speaker 2>green zones in these areas that it could actually use

937
00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:44.199
<v Speaker 2>a dispo where an industry could grow and that so

938
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:44.960
<v Speaker 2>you can make more money.

939
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is gonna be interesting. And remember, like we

940
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:54.039
<v Speaker 1>said for Ohio, find the my cannon pros. There's a

941
00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:56.079
<v Speaker 1>post you can you can copy and paste it and

942
00:41:56.119 --> 00:42:00.639
<v Speaker 1>you can send it off to uh your lawmaker. And

943
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:03.440
<v Speaker 1>with that, you know, it's bringing more of a voice

944
00:42:03.519 --> 00:42:05.480
<v Speaker 1>because we all need to We're doing it.

945
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:06.320
<v Speaker 3>You have to.

946
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:07.880
<v Speaker 1>You gotta do it if you especially if you're in

947
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:09.679
<v Speaker 1>the industry, because it's gonna hurt even if you're not

948
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:12.199
<v Speaker 1>in the industry and your consumer like that. Your prices

949
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:14.480
<v Speaker 1>are about to go up and a lot of people

950
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:16.119
<v Speaker 1>don't want it. There's still I mean Eggs. I was

951
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:18.360
<v Speaker 1>just at the store the other day, Eggs at All

952
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:21.320
<v Speaker 1>they were like six point fifty usually all these cheapest.

953
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:25.079
<v Speaker 1>Fuck couldn't believe it, man, Like shit's so high still,

954
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:28.960
<v Speaker 1>like no one wants to pay more and more for cannabis,

955
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:31.760
<v Speaker 1>especially because the lot just because the governor wants to

956
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:33.480
<v Speaker 1>do it so we can get better roads. But we've

957
00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:35.760
<v Speaker 1>been hearing for years we're supposed to get better roads,

958
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:38.199
<v Speaker 1>better roads, better roads, better roads. We use ship product,

959
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:40.639
<v Speaker 1>I swear because no matter what road we have, brand

960
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:43.719
<v Speaker 1>new road as brand new asphalt road, there's cracks in

961
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:48.000
<v Speaker 1>it within a year. So it's like the it just

962
00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:50.960
<v Speaker 1>mind blowing. If there's anything try, why don't you just

963
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:54.760
<v Speaker 1>increase the oil to the gas tax that we all

964
00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:56.320
<v Speaker 1>have to pay already.

965
00:42:56.039 --> 00:42:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Eat something well, exactly what you're saying, Eat something less

966
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:01.320
<v Speaker 2>niche where it affects everyone about the cams industries, You're

967
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:03.800
<v Speaker 2>only attacking some people, you know what I mean. Like

968
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:06.599
<v Speaker 2>and unfortunately the thing is gas is something that we

969
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:08.599
<v Speaker 2>all use. Food is something we all use.

970
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:11.639
<v Speaker 1>But but why don't you get more with the oil

971
00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:12.599
<v Speaker 1>with the gas tax?

972
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:14.679
<v Speaker 2>Like in my mind because right, but you're gonna have

973
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:18.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot more pushback. Yeah, well that's what I'm saying.

974
00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm feeling like bull get her elected here. I feel

975
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:23.760
<v Speaker 2>like it's a bully thing. I feel like, hey, we're

976
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:25.960
<v Speaker 2>already squeezing this industry for some money. Let's squeeze it

977
00:43:26.039 --> 00:43:28.119
<v Speaker 2>for some more. But think about it, these are This

978
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:29.920
<v Speaker 2>is coming from people who truly don't give a shit

979
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:32.039
<v Speaker 2>about the industry, So what do they They're not they're

980
00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:34.960
<v Speaker 2>not worried about it surviving or people quitting, like they're

981
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:35.960
<v Speaker 2>just trying to make more money.

982
00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to quote. This is a quote from obvious.

983
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:40.639
<v Speaker 2>Yes that that that quote on them. I canna pros

984
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:42.800
<v Speaker 2>I misspoke earlier, but this is where I was supposed

985
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:44.920
<v Speaker 2>to say it. So go check out that or even

986
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:48.000
<v Speaker 2>just yourself. Reach out those stay representative because in any sense,

987
00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:50.440
<v Speaker 2>when these things happen, all these increase in taxes, it's

988
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:52.239
<v Speaker 2>not like they can just write it. It has to

989
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:55.679
<v Speaker 2>then be pushed by the people or by the representatives, right,

990
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:56.880
<v Speaker 2>so that I.

991
00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Believe, Yeah, well that's people get the vote on this.

992
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:01.480
<v Speaker 2>But I'm my point is that the people kind of

993
00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:04.440
<v Speaker 2>a represented by the representatis. Oh yeah, absolutely sounded the

994
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:05.920
<v Speaker 2>people talking to the representatives.

995
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:10.639
<v Speaker 1>Here's a quote in the article from Robert Schneider, Robin Snyder,

996
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ executive director, executive director Sandler.

997
00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:20.199
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean.

998
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:23.559
<v Speaker 1>I was like, let me restart. It's a quote from

999
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:27.599
<v Speaker 1>Robin Schneider. I might apologize we intentionally kept a tax

1000
00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:29.760
<v Speaker 1>rate low enough to compete with the illicit market. She's

1001
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:32.280
<v Speaker 1>referring to when they wrote the law back in twenty eighteen,

1002
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:34.239
<v Speaker 1>that we all voted in a wholeso at tax would

1003
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:36.679
<v Speaker 1>backfire and lead to less tax revenue because consumers would

1004
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:39.239
<v Speaker 1>go back to you like unregulated market where prices would

1005
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:41.880
<v Speaker 1>be lower. Increasing the tax burner on the cannabis industry

1006
00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:46.280
<v Speaker 1>would absolutely devastate the regular regulated market. In her her

1007
00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:49.440
<v Speaker 1>organization represents more than four hundred members in the state

1008
00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:52.000
<v Speaker 1>of Michigan. She's huge with the mi CIA Michigan Cannabis

1009
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Industry Association and with her come in come into the article.

1010
00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:57.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it just shows more l like that, like

1011
00:44:57.280 --> 00:44:59.239
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be you're gonna be messing over a lot

1012
00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:00.079
<v Speaker 1>of families.

1013
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.480
<v Speaker 2>And you're messing with things that you don't even fully understand.

1014
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:04.800
<v Speaker 2>And like I think the one thing I would hope

1015
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:07.360
<v Speaker 2>and like the one thing I would if Whimmer ever

1016
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:11.360
<v Speaker 2>hears this what you want, but go talk to this industry.

1017
00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Go talk to these people in these industry. Don't go

1018
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:17.039
<v Speaker 2>talk to your couple rich bodies who have a little

1019
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:18.679
<v Speaker 2>bit have some money in the camp sentry who have

1020
00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:20.639
<v Speaker 2>like two you know, don't go talk to the owners

1021
00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:23.800
<v Speaker 2>of like the biggest corporate cannabis company out there and

1022
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:26.079
<v Speaker 2>then be like, oh, we understand cannabis. No, you don't

1023
00:45:26.360 --> 00:45:29.920
<v Speaker 2>go talk to the people that represent your market. Listen,

1024
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Google search it, you know. And that's the thing I

1025
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:35.639
<v Speaker 2>feel like, to not see this information is truly just

1026
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:36.559
<v Speaker 2>blankly ignoring it.

1027
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:40.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I think listening to the people would

1028
00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:42.360
<v Speaker 1>be huge, And I mean I hope they hear us

1029
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:43.119
<v Speaker 1>because I know the.

1030
00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Or anyone who's like this mindset, because that's all you

1031
00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:48.840
<v Speaker 2>need to hear, and that's spread the word. Spread the word.

1032
00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:50.800
<v Speaker 2>That's why we do this podcast so everyone can hear

1033
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:52.559
<v Speaker 2>and just keep talking about it, and keep talking about

1034
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:55.320
<v Speaker 2>this that is not right, just because you see how

1035
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:57.440
<v Speaker 2>much revenues in this industry that's not profit.

1036
00:45:58.360 --> 00:45:59.559
<v Speaker 1>You have a P and L. You know how much

1037
00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:02.440
<v Speaker 1>money us for licenses, just to have overhead, just to

1038
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:04.760
<v Speaker 1>have product in a retail shop, just have lights in it. Grow,

1039
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:08.159
<v Speaker 1>you're talking, you're talking news, you're talking sane and.

1040
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:10.519
<v Speaker 2>At the level that you're talking to me, co Bro,

1041
00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:11.320
<v Speaker 2>it's insane.

1042
00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:15.639
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, stop, stop coming after the industry. That's

1043
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:17.840
<v Speaker 1>probably the biggest industry here in Michigan and it's only

1044
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:20.119
<v Speaker 1>been around for a handful of years, which is crazy.

1045
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's probably the top five top product that

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<v Speaker 1>we probably produced in sales here in the state. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not wrong, man, So overall, man, I'm ticked, yeah, ticked

1048
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:36.519
<v Speaker 1>at hearing about this because it's like I like that ticked.

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<v Speaker 2>I am No, I haven't said ticked in a while.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ticked off like that. I don't. I keep looking

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00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:45.440
<v Speaker 2>at the camera ticked. I'm just ticked.

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00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:47.199
<v Speaker 1>I like it ticked.

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<v Speaker 2>I bringing back the word I say word a lot

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<v Speaker 2>like I took from a buddy, like you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. I like it ticked off. I'm mad too,

1056
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:58.920
<v Speaker 2>because it doesn't well, it's frustrating because when we see

1057
00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:00.840
<v Speaker 2>this industry, we talk to these people all the time.

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00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:04.960
<v Speaker 1>We know how these companies don't have a marketing budget.

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00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:07.559
<v Speaker 2>That's why when we say please support our partners and

1060
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:09.760
<v Speaker 2>stuff like, we truly mean please, because these are like

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00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:12.320
<v Speaker 2>people we believe in. These are people that are you know,

1062
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:15.480
<v Speaker 2>believing in us, believing people in the community, not just

1063
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:18.239
<v Speaker 2>throwing their money at the most expensive, the shiniest things.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they're like you know, shout out Lost Coast

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<v Speaker 2>plant there, shout out old school organic cannabi extras kinship Cannabis,

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<v Speaker 2>cod high nine. Check them all out. You know a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of my discount codes Lost Coast High nine, my

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<v Speaker 2>Canada Cast or Mike Can't twenty. I can't remember one of.

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<v Speaker 1>Freguing twenty my Canic Cast is it's high perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>But my whole point is when we ask you to

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<v Speaker 2>support like it's truly a big thing. Or when you

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<v Speaker 2>like a company who you like, like their morals, go

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<v Speaker 2>support them. Support them if they have a bad run,

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<v Speaker 2>like okay, man, don't just stop buying their product. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean if they have fifty bad ten bad runs,

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00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:52.960
<v Speaker 2>all right, I get it. But you might want to

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00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:59.199
<v Speaker 2>message them. But that's five five exactly. But that's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>You gots truly in industry.

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00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:02.159
<v Speaker 1>You got some more those brands that you truly love

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<v Speaker 1>and care about BECAU.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's not as easy as you think, like even

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00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:08.000
<v Speaker 2>for us, like it's hard. We just have can in

1083
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:13.519
<v Speaker 2>our name. We don't sell ship shadow for everything you post, Well,

1084
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:15.519
<v Speaker 2>that's not that's just that's not even I mean there's

1085
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:19.599
<v Speaker 2>so much that goes along with that or getting shut down. Well,

1086
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:21.440
<v Speaker 2>when you're trying to work with companies, we know how

1087
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:23.519
<v Speaker 2>much struggle goes behind the scenes because we're talking them

1088
00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:25.239
<v Speaker 2>all the time about budgets and stuff, because we're trying

1089
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:26.960
<v Speaker 2>to partner with certain people. And it's like the people

1090
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:29.639
<v Speaker 2>who actually have the good morals are struggling because they're

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00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:31.800
<v Speaker 2>competing with the shitty people who can just buy fifty

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00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:34.280
<v Speaker 2>billboards and not give a ship like it's And that's

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00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:36.360
<v Speaker 2>a bad example. I'm just saying people who could throw

1094
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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of money at the marketing that wasn't you know,

1095
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:45.760
<v Speaker 2>billboards work but sort of right, that's like marketing, and

1096
00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:51.519
<v Speaker 2>it's for that. It's fine, it might work. He's the

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00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:56.239
<v Speaker 2>marketing proto. You know, it's a wild world.

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00:48:56.519 --> 00:48:58.400
<v Speaker 1>We got we got, we got your target audience if

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<v Speaker 1>you want.

1100
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:02.480
<v Speaker 2>That's niche, niche stuff versus just throwing some money at things.

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<v Speaker 2>And my point is that some of these companies who

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<v Speaker 2>are just throwing money at things, they're not, you.

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00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Know, always you're just throwing money.

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<v Speaker 2>God the morals in line with yours.

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<v Speaker 1>No, and you gotta you'll find the brands that you

1106
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:18.639
<v Speaker 1>you you represent that for you feel like you like

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00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:21.239
<v Speaker 1>their story, like their product, and you'll usually go there.

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00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:25.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, industry, I just cannot imagine. Well, I know,

1109
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:27.119
<v Speaker 2>but some of these brands, if you saw, like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>that increase of tax with already how much struggles we

1111
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:32.679
<v Speaker 2>hear about, I could see some companies just being like,

1112
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<v Speaker 2>I'm out, like because a lot of these people in

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<v Speaker 2>this industry do this for the passion. Man, A lot

1114
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<v Speaker 2>of these people in this industry are very smart, educated

1115
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<v Speaker 2>people who come from different backgrounds to create this industry

1116
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<v Speaker 2>where it's like, I don't take people understand you know

1117
00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:53.360
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. I think people even understand that it's

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00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:56.039
<v Speaker 2>not just like where's weed and that's just that's how

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<v Speaker 2>you make money so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, you don't get anything done. Typical bullshit is what

1121
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:04.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people see from the outside about that

1122
00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:08.559
<v Speaker 1>there is tons of passion and that's what's striving and

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<v Speaker 1>making Michigan such one of the best markets in the

1124
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:14.800
<v Speaker 1>world is because the people and the backbones that it's

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<v Speaker 1>built on. A lot of people. We came from the

1126
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:20.159
<v Speaker 1>caregiver days when two thousand, niney ten we ran in

1127
00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:22.199
<v Speaker 1>the law nine thousand tens one starting to growing and

1128
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<v Speaker 1>you had people, everyone was trapping, everyone was trying to

1129
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:26.960
<v Speaker 1>push the product bringing ways. Then you had dispos coming

1130
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<v Speaker 1>over and then you're talking about different strains like our

1131
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Our people here in Michigan built this, built this whole

1132
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<v Speaker 1>industry to over three four billion doll industry. We beat

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<v Speaker 1>California in sales. California's population is what double ours, insanely triple.

1134
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<v Speaker 1>Probably California is fucking huge compared to Michigan. And just

1135
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<v Speaker 1>to see what we're able to do in the state.

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<v Speaker 1>The product that we have, the quality that we have,

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<v Speaker 1>is amazing to me, Like we truly have a quality

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<v Speaker 1>quality industry here that this would straight cripple it like

1139
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<v Speaker 1>you would. You would have people that put their blood, sweat, tears,

1140
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:04.679
<v Speaker 1>every bounce of their bank account into this and then

1141
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:08.719
<v Speaker 1>you crush them because you because you see the people who.

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<v Speaker 2>Are really My issue is too I mean, you're absolutely right.

1143
00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to anything. You're absolutely right. My whole

1144
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:16.880
<v Speaker 2>thing is why I said supporting other companies people you

1145
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:18.880
<v Speaker 2>support because this is the time to do so if

1146
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:23.039
<v Speaker 2>it even already things are tough, Like I mean, you

1147
00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:25.360
<v Speaker 2>said that if something like this happened, you crippled industry

1148
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:28.199
<v Speaker 2>because you'd kill all the companies who probably have the

1149
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:30.599
<v Speaker 2>good morals there, like you know what, I mean, a

1150
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:33.880
<v Speaker 2>lot of them, you know, because these are family run industries.

1151
00:51:33.920 --> 00:51:35.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, these aren't corporate companies. I mean some of them,

1152
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:38.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, grew to be corporate size, but they're not

1153
00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:41.320
<v Speaker 2>corporate roots. And that's where you don't want to screw

1154
00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:45.840
<v Speaker 2>those people over, because it's just not Those are the

1155
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:46.920
<v Speaker 2>backbone of this industry.

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<v Speaker 1>They truly are man it is and we're gonna be

1157
00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:53.440
<v Speaker 1>paying very close attention to this, so we'll be talking

1158
00:51:53.440 --> 00:51:54.960
<v Speaker 1>about it all the time and if you ever have

1159
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:57.000
<v Speaker 1>any comments again to it into our waken Banks. We

1160
00:51:57.079 --> 00:52:02.239
<v Speaker 1>go live every Saturday, nine am Eastern back March first. Also,

1161
00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:04.199
<v Speaker 1>we drop a new episode every Wednesday, obviously because you

1162
00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:06.039
<v Speaker 1>know that because you're listening. But again, if you leave

1163
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:08.760
<v Speaker 1>us a five star review on Apple and message us

1164
00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:11.280
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1165
00:52:11.360 --> 00:52:13.199
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1166
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<v Speaker 1>you have to worry about it, So just send us

1167
00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:17.840
<v Speaker 1>out a review and that'd be greatly appreciated. Also, you

1168
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:22.800
<v Speaker 1>can follow me Cana Dave on all socials. I do

1169
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<v Speaker 1>want to say thank you for everyone reaching out with

1170
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<v Speaker 1>my DMS about my dog Molly I had a lot

1171
00:52:26.440 --> 00:52:29.039
<v Speaker 1>of comments the last couple of weeks and messages regarding her,

1172
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<v Speaker 1>and I will mention she got her stitches out and

1173
00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:33.880
<v Speaker 1>we went for our first walk rooviy the other night,

1174
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:38.519
<v Speaker 1>and one of our listeners, Tata, messaged me and he goes, damn,

1175
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:40.000
<v Speaker 1>she looked like she was trying to sprint, and I

1176
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:44.239
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, yeah, she was trying to go. I

1177
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:46.960
<v Speaker 1>was like, she's been run, she's been lost, she's been

1178
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:49.320
<v Speaker 1>locked up like you said, but like at the end

1179
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<v Speaker 1>she was like pretty tired of then, but it was good,

1180
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<v Speaker 1>not like exhausted, but her legs.

1181
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<v Speaker 2>And I know your dog Molly's like, I'm losing it

1182
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<v Speaker 2>right now. Oh, I mean, this is why she tore

1183
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<v Speaker 2>the age, you know, is like she's a fast girls.

1184
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<v Speaker 2>She's still cutting she is.

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<v Speaker 1>And today's actually my gotcha day, eleven years to the

1186
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:07.840
<v Speaker 1>day I picked her up.

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<v Speaker 2>Today, I'll give you. I'll give you this, and I

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00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:12.719
<v Speaker 2>meant to do this for the m I c I

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00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:15.119
<v Speaker 2>a quote earlier too, so that goes for this too.

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<v Speaker 2>I just didn't want to cut you off. It felt

1191
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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, take it real anyway, Yeah, check check.

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<v Speaker 1>Us outs and yeah, I give us follow my Candic Cast,

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<v Speaker 1>and then next week's episode will be with uh Summer

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<v Speaker 1>Sky and Collectim.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're in Detroit, Groovy Music Everywhere playing a gig

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<v Speaker 2>this Friday, not doing the funky stuff, more like soulful,

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<v Speaker 2>drum bass, heavy stuff at the Tangent the Tangent. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you you're in Detroit, be there. Shout out to

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<v Speaker 2>Hydro it'll be a good time. Anything else, you have

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<v Speaker 2>my Canic Cast everywhere, Candidate of everywhere. We appreciate y'all

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<v Speaker 2>and that's it. Shout out to all the partners YEP.

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<v Speaker 1>And as always Groovy We're here to advocate, educate and

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<v Speaker 1>inspire the next time on peace
