WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:09.960 Yeah, Rita, you need that so. 2 00:00:10.039 --> 00:00:10.720 You don't have. 3 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:15.279 Come running stas as we can. 4 00:00:16.559 --> 00:00:22.960 Shooter's gonna help come man Dix. He is the Troubleshooter Show. Now. 5 00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:28.640 Tom Martino, Hey, Tom Martino here, welcome to the show. 6 00:00:28.719 --> 00:00:30.519 You'll see I have a studio full of people here, 7 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:32.439 and I have Barry Miller with me. We'll be talking 8 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:36.280 to him a lot. He's with Vestera Turnkey, one of 9 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:38.399 my good buddies for thirty years. I've known him for 10 00:00:38.399 --> 00:00:42.600 so long, in fact, probably more than that, who knows, yes, 11 00:00:42.719 --> 00:00:44.719 so so long that when he came out on the 12 00:00:44.759 --> 00:00:46.679 referral list, we didn't even do a background check. 13 00:00:48.799 --> 00:00:49.880 And I'll stand behind it. 14 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:55.039 So anyway, and so Barry, welcome here, Barry, thank you. Now. 15 00:00:55.280 --> 00:01:00.479 I caught your show Saturday and very cool. And then 16 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:03.399 we have a Deputy d Dmitri and then Deputy Bow 17 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:07.760 did something extraordinary yesterday. We'll get to him again, but 18 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:13.400 I'm uploading a video it's still uploading on What I 19 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:20.200 did was compressed the calls. I compressed them and it 20 00:01:20.239 --> 00:01:26.599 was really all of the calls together. That was a 21 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:29.400 summary of the older woman rescued yesterday. 22 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:31.640 That's enough set, I'm going to go to the phones 23 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:32.319 right now. 24 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:37.000 We solve problems, answer questions, take complaints and help save lives. 25 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:40.239 Dmet you turn your volume down just a little on 26 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:44.040 that bro. Your computer volume is coming out. Mute it. 27 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:46.840 Thank you very much, appreciate it. Frank, what's going on 28 00:01:46.920 --> 00:01:48.799 in your life? Frankie, what's happening? 29 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:51.879 What's going on? 30 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:52.200 Frank? 31 00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:53.519 Oh? 32 00:01:53.599 --> 00:01:54.280 Sentry Link? 33 00:01:55.120 --> 00:01:56.959 Oh? What about it? I actually do you know what? 34 00:01:57.280 --> 00:01:59.640 That's actually a company. I don't mind. They have great 35 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:03.079 custostomer service. I mean, I thought, but what's your issue? 36 00:02:03.840 --> 00:02:08.759 My issue is that I switched internet and landline turned 37 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:13.680 it off from and they just keep billing me. 38 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:17.680 Now what do you mean off? And no? No, and 39 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:20.840 they haven't you left centric Are you saying you left 40 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:23.759 Centry Link? Frank, you left Centry Link? You got and 41 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:28.159 they're still billing you. Yes, When did you actually cancel 42 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:28.800 with them? 43 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:31.759 I canceled March twenty ninth. 44 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:34.319 And and everything you canceled? 45 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:36.080 What did you have with them? Internet? 46 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:39.479 End phone, the landline and the internet? 47 00:02:40.479 --> 00:02:40.879 Okay? 48 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:45.199 And it was off for three days and then the 49 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:52.240 other company provided and we have cell phones, so no, 50 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:52.960 I get it. 51 00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:56.800 I get it, and uh and and so they're still 52 00:02:56.800 --> 00:02:59.080 billing you. That should be an easy issue. Did you 53 00:02:59.199 --> 00:03:02.599 call customers Service or better yet, go on to their 54 00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:05.719 online chat and talk to an I a robot? 55 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:10.280 Well, a robot, you know what I mean. No, I 56 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:12.919 didn't do that. I called to talk to a person 57 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:15.599 and they said, well, they're checking into it. Well they 58 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:18.759 still haven't turned it off. They snuffed through auto pay. 59 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:22.840 Pay. Oh wait wait wait wait? Didn't you turn off 60 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:23.520 the auto pay? 61 00:03:24.919 --> 00:03:27.240 I didn't think I needed to know. I didn't. 62 00:03:27.400 --> 00:03:30.560 Yeah, I understand. So Frank, would you like us to 63 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:32.599 call for you and just see what's going on there? 64 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:33.240 Please? 65 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:34.199 Uh? 66 00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:38.319 Kaschina. Who do we have in the studio or at 67 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:41.599 home working? We have bo and we have Deputy Dollar. 68 00:03:41.719 --> 00:03:43.879 This sounds all about Dollar right now? 69 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:46.479 Yes, his dollar in the studio? 70 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:51.840 He is Dollar. Are you there, sir? Turn here right? Dollar. 71 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:54.240 You're gonna have to step up your game to keep 72 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:54.879 up with Bow. 73 00:03:55.439 --> 00:03:57.479 I know he's both. 74 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:05.280 Never mind, so listen, uh I have I have a 75 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:07.800 feeling you can probably get through to these people, you know. I. 76 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:10.879 I don't think they're out to rip you off. But 77 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:13.280 first of all, you should have you should have shut 78 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:18.360 off auto pay. Now a word on auto pay The 79 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:20.480 only way you can turn it off if it is 80 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:23.800 if you initiated it, if you did not initiate it 81 00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:27.519 from your bank or from your log in with them, 82 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:31.959 and they initiated. They don't do that anymore. They use companies. 83 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:34.800 Used to go in and draw a payment, you would 84 00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:38.720 authorize it. And when that happens, unless they stop it, 85 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:42.079 it'll go on forever. I mean that, I mean, and 86 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:46.839 it's a crazy thing. In fact, even on some auto payments, 87 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:51.680 if you don't have an agreement with them to stop, 88 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:56.560 your bank will honor their draft. It's crazy. So we'll 89 00:04:56.560 --> 00:05:00.000 give a call for you, okay, And yeah, that should 90 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:04.079 a simple one three zero three seven one three talk 91 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:09.199 seven one three A two five five astra a BMW. 92 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:12.800 Now, by the way, let me say something about Sentry Lank. 93 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:15.759 I actually took the time. 94 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:18.800 To call and wait and do the chat bot and 95 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:22.759 ask for help, and I eventually got through. I was 96 00:05:22.839 --> 00:05:25.279 patient and got through. I'm gonna tell you something about 97 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:30.279 the new customer service. It kind of sucks because especially 98 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:33.279 for people who are used to calling and talking to 99 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:36.319 someone that's the way it used to be. And I 100 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:39.920 know we got a lot of complaints about for example, Frontier. 101 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:44.279 They they seized all phone support as far as calling. 102 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:48.600 So I had to do something. Now, listen how complicated 103 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:54.319 this was. I made reservations with Expedia and it went 104 00:05:54.600 --> 00:05:58.240 to Frontier and United because Expedia just go out and 105 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:02.079 put a package together. So tinerary had United on one 106 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:05.959 leg coming back, I had Frontier and I had a hotel. 107 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:10.720 Now listen to what I did. I went to Expedia 108 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:12.720 and Expedia says, you have to go directly to the 109 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:16.360 airline now, and I thought, okay. So I went to 110 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:20.639 Frontier expecting a nightmare, and I got on the virtual 111 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:23.680 chat and I think, what happens is we anticipate trouble 112 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:27.480 and trouble comes. So I got on there and simply said, 113 00:06:27.560 --> 00:06:31.639 I need to change the flight home. Okay, I got 114 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:33.839 one of these super savor deals, just have to change. 115 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:36.680 I didn't want to cancel. And they said, well, what 116 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:39.199 we do is we give you a credit for that 117 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:41.600 ticket for future use and you buy the other ticket. 118 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:44.720 And I said why, I just want to change it 119 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:50.160 and I'm paying the same amount, and the virtual thing said, 120 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:54.399 I'll get a problem resolution expert. Then a person comes 121 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:57.079 on and I'm on a chat and I'm thinking this 122 00:06:57.120 --> 00:06:59.399 is Frontier. This is never going to work. I made 123 00:06:59.399 --> 00:07:04.040 the reservation with Expedia, so I patiently just explained the problem. 124 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:06.639 I just want to change it. It's the same cost. 125 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:08.639 In fact, i'll pay an up fee. I just don't 126 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:10.560 want to take a credit for Frontier. I don't know 127 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:12.040 if I'll ever fly and then have to buy a 128 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:12.560 new ticket. 129 00:07:13.519 --> 00:07:15.120 And the Asian said, let's see what we can know. 130 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:17.560 Okay, here are the times we have pick one and 131 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:20.639 I picked the later time or the earlier time, whatever 132 00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:23.279 it was I was changing, and they said, good, you'll 133 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:26.480 be getting a confirmation email. I got a confirmation email. 134 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:29.759 Then right after that, Expedia emailed me saying Frontier changed 135 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:32.480 your flight. It was like a miracle that all of 136 00:07:32.519 --> 00:07:35.600 these tech things came together, because I get calls every 137 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:39.720 day about all the frustration, and you think that's the 138 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:42.279 only thing. It happened with Sentry Link too. That's why 139 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:45.000 I was saying, I just couldn't believe. I went to 140 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:48.040 CenturyLink and they connected me with an agent who called 141 00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:50.480 me and told me how to do what I wanted 142 00:07:50.519 --> 00:07:53.920 to do. Anyway, maybe that's just a run of good. Look, 143 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:59.199 because I hear people dealing with companies today, I hear nightmares, 144 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:01.399 and I think that's kind't true. But I also think 145 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:05.240 we expect a nightmare. Sometimes what you expect is what 146 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:09.879 you get. Astra, What happened with your BMW? Hi? Tom? 147 00:08:10.279 --> 00:08:15.560 I had a twenty thirteen x three that I bought 148 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:17.639 from a private party. 149 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:20.959 Oh okay, now, a twenty thirteen x three. How many miles? 150 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:23.199 When you bought it? 151 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:28.120 It had oh maybe one hundred and three thousand, one 152 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:31.000 hundred and thirty or one hundred and three, no, one 153 00:08:31.079 --> 00:08:31.800 hundred and three. 154 00:08:32.440 --> 00:08:35.159 Okay, when you bought it? How long ago? 155 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:38.559 Just a few years ago? 156 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:42.080 Okay, tell us your story. What's going on? 157 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:46.080 Okay? Well, so I was driving home. 158 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:49.279 I've had it in the shop many many times. I 159 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:52.600 spent you know, a couple of thousand dollars getting it. 160 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:59.960 The titanium type is what I was told to get. 161 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:01.519 What did you say you? 162 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:07.360 Titanium is what the I took it to the German 163 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:10.720 auto shop and they said, okay, no, now it's titanium 164 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:14.919 like this, This thing is solid. It's good to go. Yes, okay, awesome. 165 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:17.240 I don't know what they're talking about, but okay, so 166 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:22.320 this you've been maintaining it with a certain shop all 167 00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:22.799 the time. 168 00:09:23.960 --> 00:09:27.519 Yes, yes, I put several thousand dollars into this car. 169 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:33.799 And by the way, that's expected. BMW's really should be 170 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:37.559 abandoned after sixty and for sure after seventy. 171 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:39.759 They are not long range vehicles. 172 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:45.120 They're beautiful vehicles, they drive well, they're powerful, but they 173 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:48.480 should not be kept after seventy thousand. For sure. Seventy 174 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:52.559 is pushing it. But anyway, okay, co ahead. So what 175 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:54.120 happened then? So? 176 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:57.720 I was driving down sixth Avenue with my elderly mom 177 00:09:57.759 --> 00:10:00.360 in the car and it went out. 178 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:02.440 It just stalled. 179 00:10:02.399 --> 00:10:06.279 And I couldn't turn it them on, I couldn't move 180 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:10.399 the gear shift. Someone, so I stopped, stopping all of 181 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:16.879 six Avenue on a Saturday, and people are what happened then? 182 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:22.440 So I someone offered I couldn't. I couldn't get it 183 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:27.919 into neutral to pull it over, and very soon smoke 184 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:31.919 started coming out of the hood on my driver's side, 185 00:10:32.919 --> 00:10:35.080 and I kind of paniced, didn't know what to do, 186 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:37.200 and then I saw lane starting. 187 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:41.679 Oh my god, plane on that note, hold on, did 188 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:42.799 the car burn up? 189 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:46.919 Yes, completely result in flames. Within a couple of minutes. 190 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:48.240 My mom and I were. 191 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:50.720 Inside it when it was caught on fire and we 192 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:53.879 were able to get out and kind of run down 193 00:10:53.879 --> 00:10:54.879 the highway. 194 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:55.080 Which it was. 195 00:10:55.320 --> 00:10:57.840 It is it totaled? 196 00:10:58.720 --> 00:10:59.240 It's total. 197 00:10:59.399 --> 00:11:03.080 No, it's sinegrade in center. Yes, it's completely totaled. 198 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:06.360 Okay, hold on, hold on, we got to come to this. 199 00:11:06.360 --> 00:11:08.799 This is weird. Three oh three seven one three talk 200 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:12.519 wow seven one three A two five five. 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Hi Tom Archino here, I have Barry Miller, 222 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:37.039 wh would be from Besterra Turnkey and uh, I'm going 223 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:39.039 to go back to ask her about a car burning up. 224 00:12:39.080 --> 00:12:40.799 I want to ask Barry quick question. I got a 225 00:12:40.799 --> 00:12:44.879 text here, Barry. I know that you say you can 226 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:47.720 double your money in some of the commercials. Okay, as 227 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:52.240 somebody wants to know here. Have you had actual case 228 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:53.080 histories case? 229 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:53.600 Oh? 230 00:12:53.759 --> 00:12:56.399 Yes, yeah. The company is twenty one years. 231 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:58.519 Old Hestora Turnkey Vesterry. 232 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:02.000 Yes, but we had I had some family issues. We 233 00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:05.720 had to close it down at about twenty ten, had 234 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:08.759 nothing to do with the Great Recession. Reopened it in 235 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:09.639 twenty nineteen. 236 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:09.840 Oh. 237 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:13.840 I have lots of success stories, basically all success when 238 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:18.440 we say double your money in about two years. I mean, 239 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:21.000 how many do you want? A dozen or two reflectable? 240 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:25.240 So the idea is to buy real estate, have it 241 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:30.120 actively managed by professionals, and sit back and watch it appreciate. 242 00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:31.799 Then you guys help them get rid of. 243 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:34.720 It some key. We handle everything right. 244 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:37.879 But the point I want to make is it's not 245 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:41.639 simply being a landlord forever. In fact, you never talked 246 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:45.399 to tenors or deal with anything. It's actively managed and 247 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:51.360 actively researched. And the only property that you buy what. 248 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:56.519 It is a single family home, typically in the best markets. 249 00:13:57.039 --> 00:13:58.720 And then when you I. 250 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:00.960 Don't want you to gloss over that the best markets. 251 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:03.360 I think that's the most important thing you do. Just 252 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:04.120 pick the house. 253 00:14:04.279 --> 00:14:07.600 We call it research, research, and more research. You pick 254 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:11.320 the house, We pick the city. We pick the best 255 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:12.399 cities in the country. 256 00:14:12.759 --> 00:14:16.639 We start for rentals and appreciation. 257 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:21.759 And for long three years or more, great economy in 258 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:24.120 that city, not just the flesh and. 259 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:24.480 Right and. 260 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:28.360 Potential for appreciation. 261 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:29.799 The best appreciations. 262 00:14:29.919 --> 00:14:31.200 So here's the point. 263 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:35.320 Those markets that are excellent for buying now may not 264 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:39.200 be your favorite spot in five years. 265 00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:40.759 Correct, But you may not want to keep it for 266 00:14:40.799 --> 00:14:41.320 five years. 267 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:43.000 No I know that, but what I meant it was 268 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:47.440 you you constantly are looking on because the whole idea 269 00:14:47.480 --> 00:14:50.600 of a new market is one that appreciates once it appreciates. 270 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:52.960 Like Denver was a great market. It's not a great 271 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:55.399 market now for investment, is it. 272 00:14:55.840 --> 00:14:59.399 It's a great market for appreciation, but not for investment. 273 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:01.480 Right because you buy two high anyway by too high? 274 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:05.519 Our appreciation is nowhere near what are we call them 275 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:10.000 hotspots cities? Are our hotspots cities we're watching all the time. 276 00:15:10.720 --> 00:15:14.000 We have seven or eight at any one time, maybe 277 00:15:14.080 --> 00:15:15.679 one or two change each year. 278 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:18.559 But we want to cash what the front of the wave. 279 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:21.799 Not at the end when it peaks and then starts 280 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:26.240 slowing down. Our research continues to watch it as it peaks. 281 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:27.679 We know when it's slowing down. 282 00:15:27.759 --> 00:15:31.679 We let our customers know said time to sell and 283 00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:34.440 find it in a hot market. 284 00:15:34.919 --> 00:15:40.320 Right, Okay, Now, Astra, the car burned up. Did you 285 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:43.759 have insurance on it? Your BMW burned up? It was 286 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:46.360 a twenty thirteen x three. You've owned it a few years, 287 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:48.240 one hundred and three thousand miles when you bought it. 288 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:50.440 Can you know how many miles on it when it burned. 289 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:55.360 Up maybe one thirty tops. 290 00:15:56.559 --> 00:16:00.720 Okay, that's nice. What happened. 291 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:02.759 I did not have full coverage on it. 292 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:06.759 So you don't have wait, you didn't have comprehensive to 293 00:16:06.799 --> 00:16:07.840 cover the fire. 294 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:14.480 Correct, I just had regular liability insurance. I was told 295 00:16:16.159 --> 00:16:21.039 from my really I'm sorry, my insurance agent that I 296 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:24.919 would have probably got less than maybe three thousand for 297 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:29.279 it if I had the extra insurance. If that, and 298 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:32.120 I'm a single mom with you know, I don't get 299 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:36.320 zero child support, I don't get anything. And I was like, 300 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:38.720 well that sounded really good, But now three thousand sounds 301 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:41.320 like a really good deal. So I really regret that position. 302 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:44.600 Oh man, I feel so bad for you. So what 303 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:46.799 are you calling about us today? About today? 304 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:51.799 Well, I don't know if I have any recourse there 305 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:57.080 were BMW why or. 306 00:16:59.000 --> 00:16:59.159 Uh? 307 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:06.559 Just because it's it's it's a two thousand and thirteen, 308 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:11.960 so it's okay. So okay, we're looking at uh, we're 309 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:17.000 looking at twelve years old. Yes, okay, So why why 310 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:22.039 would why would a manufacturer have responsibility? I'm trying to go, 311 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:24.240 I've been trying to see where you're going, where you're going, like, 312 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:26.839 why would they have anything on it? 313 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:29.119 And exactly. I don't know if I have. 314 00:17:31.079 --> 00:17:37.079 Recalls, protect them recalls. If there were recalls and the 315 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:41.160 recalls weren't done, well, that's not BMW's fault. It's the 316 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:45.400 previous owner's fault. But what kind of recalls were in 317 00:17:45.519 --> 00:17:47.200 I don't I'm not familiar with the X three in 318 00:17:47.240 --> 00:17:51.599 that year. Were there recalls that would have not have 319 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:52.359 it burn up? 320 00:17:54.279 --> 00:17:57.119 There were recalls that would spark fire. 321 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:01.759 Well, that's where I get So if the recall was done, 322 00:18:01.799 --> 00:18:02.759 it would have corrected it. 323 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:08.039 Okay, So no, I'm not. 324 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:10.000 Trying to spank you and send you away. I'm trying 325 00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:13.480 to say if that car had active recalls, that would 326 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:18.319 have corrected the situation that caused the fire. BMW covered themselves. 327 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:20.559 They put out a recall. They don't have to go 328 00:18:20.680 --> 00:18:24.799 out and physically knock on doors. They issue a recall. 329 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:29.559 According to the Highway Safety Traffic Administration, they've done their job. 330 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:34.319 If the owners or don't do the recall, or if 331 00:18:34.359 --> 00:18:36.720 you're not advised or you don't do research on the 332 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:40.640 recalls and have them done, there's no liability. Now, if 333 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:44.160 there was not a recall and BMW knew this was 334 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:47.480 happening over and over and over and over there could 335 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:53.240 be liability. How much? How much did you pay for 336 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:56.279 this car? I don't like telling you this stuff, but 337 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:58.240 I don't want you wasting a lot of time. How 338 00:18:58.319 --> 00:18:59.839 much did you pay for this car? 339 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:03.680 Exactly? I paid twelve thousand cash from a private party. 340 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:07.079 And I was under the impression he gave me the 341 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:11.799 thicker that was in the car, you know, at like 342 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:15.440 at the sales lot or whatever. And I assumed I 343 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:17.559 was only the second owner. 344 00:19:18.039 --> 00:19:21.319 But what difference would that have made? 345 00:19:23.640 --> 00:19:24.440 Well? Maybe not? 346 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:28.599 I mean, in other words, I know you're grabbing at straws. 347 00:19:28.680 --> 00:19:30.759 I know you are, and I don't blame you. Okay, 348 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:32.920 I don't blame you. You're looking for a bad guy 349 00:19:32.920 --> 00:19:36.119 that you can pin this on. But but whether you're 350 00:19:36.119 --> 00:19:38.079 the first owner or the fifth owner, how would that 351 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:41.559 change things? Well? 352 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:43.559 I think that they think. 353 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:50.039 That during the recalls or during the recalls, nobody took 354 00:19:50.079 --> 00:19:55.319 it in And well, okay, yeah, I'm the one, you know, 355 00:19:55.400 --> 00:19:57.640 getting the the. 356 00:19:57.160 --> 00:20:00.000 That's right, you know, that's right, and that's what happened. 357 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:03.319 And uh huh, you're absolutely right. You got the front 358 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:06.440 of it. And who do you blame for that? 359 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:06.720 Though? 360 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:09.480 Now, if the owner that if the guy that sold 361 00:20:09.519 --> 00:20:11.000 it to you, the gal that sold it to you, 362 00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:15.759 if they said, Astra, everything's been taken care of all 363 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:18.440 the recalls, you have nothing to worry about. I mean, 364 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:21.519 did they lie to you? Did someone mislead you two 365 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:22.400 or three years ago? 366 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:24.240 Of course they did? 367 00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:26.799 Okay, how did they do that, Astra help. 368 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:34.079 They basically said that it was brand new this guy wait, wait, wait, you. 369 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:36.480 Had one hundred and three wait wait, you bought it 370 00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:39.599 with one hundred and three thousand miles and somebody told 371 00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:40.839 you it was brand new. 372 00:20:42.319 --> 00:20:48.880 No, they said they had had it new, he worked 373 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:51.759 at a car dealership or okay. 374 00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:54.640 Well, well okay, but how did that cause? How did 375 00:20:54.680 --> 00:20:57.359 that lead to the fire? If he had it for new? 376 00:20:57.559 --> 00:21:00.000 You're looking for I'm not looking for just a lot. 377 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:04.400 I'm looking for a lie that caused damage. What difference 378 00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:06.440 does it make if he had it from new or 379 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:09.759 if someone else had it? In other words, you're I 380 00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:11.680 want to help you here, but you're not giving me 381 00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:14.799 any ammunition. You're saying, of course he lied to me. Okay, 382 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:18.519 so he wasn't the first owner. What difference does that make? 383 00:21:18.920 --> 00:21:23.759 Did he lie to you about having recall work done? No? 384 00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:26.160 He said nothing about any recalls on it. 385 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:31.559 Okay, did you ever once do a car fax or 386 00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:34.839 do event search to see if there were any recalls 387 00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:39.880 on that twenty thirteen x three that had not been done. 388 00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:41.599 I don't think that I did. 389 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:44.279 And I know one thing. I know one thing, and 390 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:47.240 I'm sorry it costs you this much money. But next 391 00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:50.359 time you will I buy a car, You're going to 392 00:21:50.440 --> 00:21:52.240 find out that there are recalls on it that I 393 00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:55.240 be done or not. Yes, both, Astra. 394 00:21:55.440 --> 00:21:58.759 It would be interesting if you would call the BMW 395 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:02.799 dealer the VN number, because they did have a recall 396 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:04.599 on a faulty. 397 00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:07.839 Water pump for those model years that did cause fires. 398 00:22:08.119 --> 00:22:09.000 That's what she said. 399 00:22:09.119 --> 00:22:11.079 It's not going to help her, but it'd be interesting 400 00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:13.920 to see if BMW did do the recall and the 401 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:15.279 water pump for her car. 402 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:17.079 And let's say they didn't do it. 403 00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:20.160 Then what if they didn't do it, she bought the 404 00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:23.599 car used, she still has no recourse. 405 00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:25.359 Right and what if they did do it and it 406 00:22:25.480 --> 00:22:28.720 still caused a fire. Maybe it wasn't done properly. You know, 407 00:22:28.759 --> 00:22:31.920 well that's not a terrible idea. So why don't you 408 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:35.000 since you're grabbing at straws and hope, call a beamer, 409 00:22:35.400 --> 00:22:37.920 run the VN number, see if it was done, and 410 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:40.640 if it was done, and you can have some forensic 411 00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:45.000 analysis say it wasn't done properly. Who knows, who knows 412 00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:47.799 how long ago it might have been. I mean again, 413 00:22:47.960 --> 00:22:50.400 I think you're grasping at straws. And here's what I think. 414 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:52.880 I think. When you buy a used car with one 415 00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:56.480 hundred thousand miles, you just you're going to have trouble. 416 00:22:57.039 --> 00:22:59.000 I'm Tom Martinez. We have more coming up. 417 00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:08.000 Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing 418 00:23:08.119 --> 00:23:10.720 dot com. 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Hi 426 00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:45.079 Tom Martino, your troubleshooter THREEO three seven to one three 427 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:48.200 Talk three all three seven one three eight two five five. 428 00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:51.119 Vestor at Turnkey is our guest today, and we'll be 429 00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:54.279 talking to them from time to time about your questions. 430 00:23:54.319 --> 00:23:56.759 You can call in about them about real estate rentals 431 00:23:56.759 --> 00:23:59.119 and getting into the market and not having any worries 432 00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:01.880 when you do and have it actively managed and researched 433 00:24:01.960 --> 00:24:05.480 for you. And then we can also talk about exit 434 00:24:05.559 --> 00:24:10.759 plans and what they do for people. Right now, I 435 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:16.599 don't think there is anything we can do for Astra. 436 00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:21.759 She bought a car, and I don't know people when 437 00:24:21.759 --> 00:24:24.000 you buy a car and there are recalls and there 438 00:24:24.039 --> 00:24:25.799 are fires, and you buy a car that's ten or 439 00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:29.400 eleven years old and you have over one hundred thousand miles, 440 00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:31.880 you're pretty much as so well. 441 00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:35.200 I don't like saying that, but that's the way it is. 442 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:40.799 People say, Tom, why do you bother having people on 443 00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:43.559 if you can't help them, Because I've just helped a 444 00:24:43.559 --> 00:24:45.480 ton of people right there with that call. Did you 445 00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:49.079 know that I can't help it if someone buys a 446 00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:50.680 car with one hundred and fifty or one hundred and 447 00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:53.720 ten or one hundred and three thousand miles thirteen years old, 448 00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:56.440 didn't get it checked out, doesn't know anything about the recalls. 449 00:24:56.799 --> 00:24:59.680 How can I help that? I mean, I'm not a 450 00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:03.720 MI co worker. I'd like to take, you know, a 451 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:06.599 loaf of bread and some fish and multiply it for everyone, 452 00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:10.119 but I can't do it. So what I do is 453 00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:14.480 hope to impart enough information so this person doesn't waste 454 00:25:14.519 --> 00:25:18.880 time and money trying to go after somebody, or they 455 00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:20.880 know the next time around how to do it better. 456 00:25:20.920 --> 00:25:24.160 But the ton of people listening can tell their kids 457 00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:30.000 and their nephews and nieces and each other, don't do that. Ron, 458 00:25:31.400 --> 00:25:34.559 you have an apartment leak issue and you were working 459 00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:38.359 with Deputy Bow. Ron. I'm trying to find your original call, 460 00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:41.200 so talk to us about it, Sir. 461 00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:45.640 Ron, I called you guys about Yeah, can you hear me? 462 00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:50.000 Yes? I can so that you were working with Deputy bow. 463 00:25:51.839 --> 00:25:55.119 That is correct for that h plumbing leak from the ceiling. 464 00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:57.920 Yeah, I'm trying to that that Oh wait wait wait 465 00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:01.920 wait wait, that was the weird one with the AC 466 00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:05.480 unit or the heating unit that went through your water heater. 467 00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:06.839 It's up into ceiling. 468 00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:10.400 Yeah. Yeah. And then we came there, we came to 469 00:26:10.519 --> 00:26:14.359 learn that those units in the apartments, the way they 470 00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:17.799 demise those or separate. Those are putting ceiling units in 471 00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:20.839 that direct that they get water from the water heater 472 00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:25.119 and heat it and it's a heat exchanger basically to 473 00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:27.240 produce heat for those units. 474 00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:31.160 Go ahead, Ron, what happened? Bo explained how. 475 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:33.599 It worked, but I wasn't sure if there was a resolution. 476 00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:36.319 Go ahead, Yeah. 477 00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:38.960 What happened is they won't let me pay my monthly. 478 00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:40.920 They want me to pay for their cleanup, which is 479 00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:44.880 fifteen hundred dollars. So it comes to three thousand dollars 480 00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:46.880 for the cleanup in my rent. 481 00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:51.359 So now, when you say rent, this is an apartment, 482 00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:58.039 this is not a you don't own it. No, oh no, Tom, Well, 483 00:26:58.039 --> 00:27:00.440 why wouldn't the landlord be responsible for that? 484 00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:03.079 But that's what I thought. 485 00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:07.079 Well, hold on a second, you're renting this place and 486 00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:13.720 they're blaming you for a leak in the ceiling heat exchanger. 487 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:17.200 Bo, Yeah, is that what they're darding. 488 00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:20.359 So when I went out there, listen, it's they must 489 00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:22.759 they must say he contributed to it. So there's no 490 00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:25.720 way on the planet he contributed to that leak. And 491 00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:27.599 I when I was out there, I even called the 492 00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:30.279 manager the next day and said, if you don't get 493 00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:33.440 a competent contractor out there to check the free on charge. 494 00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:35.960 The leak is going to happen again. Now, Ron did 495 00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:40.359 it leak again after they replaced the coil, and now I. 496 00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:43.039 Haven't been leaking. They changed the thermis dad to a 497 00:27:43.119 --> 00:27:45.359 simple thermostad ron. 498 00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:48.359 How are they saying, bo, I thought you talked to them. 499 00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:50.559 How are they saying he contributed to this? 500 00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:51.319 Tom? 501 00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:55.440 I called the manager at the Parkside apartments where Ron lives. 502 00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:57.880 Her name is Amy think birch Meter. 503 00:27:58.039 --> 00:28:01.559 I called her three times asking her to call me 504 00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:04.240 back so I could explain what's going on in that 505 00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:09.519 apartment and that Ron being a tenant is no way responsible. 506 00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:12.279 So hold on, hold on, wait, wait before you just 507 00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:15.359 make that blankand hitting Ron would be responsible if he 508 00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:16.319 contributed to it. 509 00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:20.440 Yes, but I don't see how the system's in the 510 00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:23.519 ceiling and the reason the leak occurred because the air 511 00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:25.839 conditioner froze up because a lack of free on. 512 00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:27.799 I don't see how on how on the planet they 513 00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:28.759 could be Ron's fault. 514 00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:31.599 He's okay, Bow by the way, he's retired from the 515 00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:35.279 HVAC industry. And Bo, that's why you went out there, 516 00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:37.440 and I trust your judgment. But what I just didn't 517 00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:39.319 want to make a blanket statement that as a renter 518 00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:42.599 he's not responsible. He could be responsible for anything he 519 00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:44.799 contributed to I thought in the. 520 00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:47.480 Beginning, am I am I remembering this wrong? 521 00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:50.920 That somehow they blamed him for because he turned off 522 00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:52.319 water to it or something? 523 00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:54.200 Was there anything about. 524 00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:58.480 They come they told me that Ron told me that 525 00:28:58.519 --> 00:29:02.319 they're blaming him because he turned thermostat down to like 526 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:05.960 sixty eight degrees so he could get more Cooley. The 527 00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:09.599 reason Ron was turning the thermostat down because the air 528 00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:13.200 conditioner wasn't cooling enough because the air conditioning coil was 529 00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:14.079 frozen up. 530 00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:16.319 Okay, but did he freeze it up? 531 00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:18.240 No, he didn't. 532 00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:21.599 The coil froze up because there's lack of refrigerant on 533 00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:22.119 the unit. 534 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:22.960 That's on Ron. 535 00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:27.319 Okay, Ron, who is trying to charge you for this? 536 00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:28.960 Ah? 537 00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:33.240 This is the lady, the manager there, Amy Buckmeyer. And 538 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:36.839 yesterday I went down to Mercy Housing on sixteen hundred Broadways. 539 00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:39.079 There's no one there to talk to, and they sent 540 00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:42.519 the email to some regional director that never calls me back. 541 00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:47.200 So, okay, do you have the regional directors and what 542 00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:49.880 is Mercy is Mercy Housing, the owner. 543 00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:55.359 Mercy Housing owns the apartment building. And Ron I gave 544 00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:57.720 you the phone number. Apparently you did go down there. 545 00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:00.920 I did call twice, left a message for the regional 546 00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:06.799 manager to contact me regarding this issue, and the regional 547 00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:09.480 manager at Mercy Housing did not call me back. So 548 00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:12.559 after the show, I will call again and tell her 549 00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:13.000 that it's. 550 00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:16.079 You know, then we're gonna go to warbo Okay, let's 551 00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:17.799 give it one more try. Then we're going to go 552 00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:21.000 to war because this is wrong. They're trying to they're 553 00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:23.839 trying to beat this guy up. We got more coming up. 554 00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:26.519 I'm troubleshooter Tom Martino three O three seven one three 555 00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:28.640 Talks seven one three A two five five. Speaking of 556 00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:30.880 real estate, Frank durand the real estate man will evaluate 557 00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:32.160 your home if you want to sell it. 558 00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:33.599 He won't charge you for it. 559 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:35.200 He'll tell you what he thinks he can sell it 560 00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:38.680 for based on his vast experience and knowledge, and. 561 00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:40.039 What you will net what you can buy. 562 00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:42.640 Frank Duran, the real Estateman dot com three oh three 563 00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:51.599 nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Go with a sure 564 00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:55.160 thing Denver's Best Roofer Excel roofing dot com. You don't 565 00:30:55.160 --> 00:31:01.200 pay a cent until you're content. Time for an insurance 566 00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:05.000 check up free, no obligation. In comparison, call Compass Insurance 567 00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:08.160 paying too much your coverage at dozens of insurance companies 568 00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:10.839 find out now three all three seven seven to one. Help. 569 00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:13.640 You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank 570 00:31:13.720 --> 00:31:16.160 durand the real estate Man dot com to list your 571 00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:19.359 home with Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero 572 00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:26.839 sixteen twenty two. Uh, Tom Martino, the YouTube video I 573 00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:30.240 post has no audio. I gotta take it down so 574 00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:34.039 I don't look like an idiot again. Three all three 575 00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:36.640 seven one three talk seven one three eight two five five. 576 00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:42.119 Hey Carolyn, welcome to the show. I'm Tom Martino. What's 577 00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:42.559 going on? 578 00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:49.599 Oh for taking my call? So I have a weird question. Yeah, 579 00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:54.799 my parents passed away in nineteen ninety seven. Yes, my 580 00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:58.839 dad in August and my mom in September. A month 581 00:31:58.839 --> 00:32:01.799 of park was extremely a devastating time. 582 00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:06.200 Oh my god, were they older older people's I don't 583 00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:08.000 know why people ask that. I guess they asked that 584 00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:10.839 to say, well at least they had a good life 585 00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:13.079 or whatever. But what can you tell me. 586 00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:15.359 No, they were young by today's standards. My dad was 587 00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:17.119 seventy to my mom was sixty nine. 588 00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:20.519 So oh my gosh, yeah yeah, yeah wow. 589 00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:25.440 So my brother handled the estate. My parents had had 590 00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:27.440 a farm, and they set up a corporation for all 591 00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.920 the farmland. So each of us, the five of us kids, 592 00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:33.559 we've got our shares of the farm, you know, the 593 00:32:33.559 --> 00:32:39.000 corporation stock, yes, and then the estate itself. Each each 594 00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:41.279 of us kids got forty thousand dollars. I had no 595 00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:45.440 idea how what my parents owned, how much they owned anything. 596 00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:46.559 Yeah, So. 597 00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:50.440 I didn't look at any of the paperwork because I 598 00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:53.000 was just so I was so devastated ahead of time. 599 00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:57.400 Now and when did this all happen? Again? When was 600 00:32:57.440 --> 00:32:59.160 this estate done? 601 00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:04.599 Nineteen ninety seven? Oh Jesus, from twenty seven years ago? 602 00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:07.839 Okay, okay, go ahead. 603 00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:13.480 So I happened to be going through the safe and 604 00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:14.599 came upon the. 605 00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:18.720 Who was the personal representative? Who was the perfect person 606 00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:21.799 or my brother? Okay, keep going, keep going. 607 00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:25.759 So I'm looking through it because I wanted to look 608 00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:29.799 for some the war land was. I just wanted them 609 00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:32.319 just you know, where is this land? Okay to add 610 00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:33.200 the legal description? 611 00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:36.000 All right, so at the time though at the time 612 00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:40.440 the assets known were the land and the cash. Is 613 00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:40.920 that right? 614 00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:42.480 Well? 615 00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:45.160 To me, I knew we had the land of corporation 616 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:47.279 and then that cash that I was. 617 00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:52.079 Given okay, and you were given how much cash? 618 00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:53.240 Forty thousand each? 619 00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:54.720 Okay, I was given forty five. 620 00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:56.599 And now here's what I want to know. Though at 621 00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:58.920 the time, why didn't you ask about the land At 622 00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:01.559 the time. 623 00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:03.519 The land was a no brainer. That was that was 624 00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:06.759 in the dispartment. We're thinking about selling the land, and 625 00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:09.239 I wanted legal descriptions to see what that's all. Right. 626 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:12.519 Hold On, I'm gonna get I'm gonna get Dan mckenzieon 627 00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:18.719 or one of our other people on for estates Akiel 628 00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:21.760 and Park hold On, Kashina, let's work on getting in 629 00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:23.679 a state attorney. We have more coming up and we 630 00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:27.119 have Vester Eternity with us as well. Go with a 631 00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:30.719 sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel roofing dot com. You 632 00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:36.519 don't pay a cent until you're content. Time for an 633 00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:40.800 insurance check up, free no obligation comparison call Compass Insurance 634 00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:43.960 paying too much your coverage at dozens of insurance companies. 635 00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:46.639 Find out now three oh three seven seven one help. 636 00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:49.440 You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank 637 00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:51.960 durand the real estate man dot com to list your 638 00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:55.159 home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero 639 00:34:55.239 --> 00:35:07.159 sixteen twenty two ripped of need advice, so you don't have. 640 00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:10.079 Come running. 641 00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:14.280 Just as fast as we can, Shooter is gonna help. 642 00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:23.679 Come man, This is the Troubleshooter Show. Now, Tom Martino, Hi. 643 00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:26.199 Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show. Three oh three 644 00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:29.280 seven one three talks seven one three eight two five five. 645 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:33.320 I have Barry Miller with me from Vestera Turnkey over here, 646 00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:36.239 and then the deputy De's on the end. So and 647 00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:39.800 if you're watching that is uh via YouTube or what else? 648 00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:45.159 And anyway, Uh, Vestera Turnkey is truly, I think an 649 00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:49.880 ingenious idea, and Barry, I think is known for ingenious 650 00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:52.639 ideas years ago when I met him. This is a 651 00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:56.480 true story. He was inventing, he was developing. There are 652 00:35:56.480 --> 00:35:58.119 only a couple of people in the country doing it. 653 00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:00.880 A buyer broker. What is a buyer broker? No one 654 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:03.559 ever heard of a buyer broker. All real estate agents 655 00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:06.639 represented sellers, no matter who they were. Even if you 656 00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:08.360 called a friend and said, I look like to look 657 00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:12.079 at that house. They legally represented sellers. Barry saw a 658 00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:15.039 flaw and all that and started one of the first 659 00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:19.480 agencies and then a national organization. He was the father 660 00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:25.079 of buyer Broker. Is that is that acrid, Barry? 661 00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:27.719 I mean, I mean yes, it is now. 662 00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:30.800 First I did the story in Channel four, and you 663 00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:32.440 bet you were the first. 664 00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:35.440 Totally the first two institutionalized it. 665 00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:38.639 Nason Wilde, there were a few. There were two others. 666 00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:39.760 One You're so. 667 00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:41.679 Humble, but I'm honest to god, you did it. You 668 00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:46.039 took a national and now having a buyer broker is 669 00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:49.079 a whole separate thing natural. We build an army. 670 00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:50.960 We built an army to make it happen. 671 00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:52.880 And from that came a transaction broker. 672 00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:56.119 Well, transaction Brokers developed in Colorado. 673 00:36:56.280 --> 00:36:57.320 I was at the meeting. 674 00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:02.039 I was on the State Government Forums committee. When that's sorry, institution, 675 00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:04.639 little group of people, and I say it's sorry. 676 00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:06.360 Attorneys created it. 677 00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:10.280 They knew it was nothing more than a facilitator, and 678 00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:13.760 they didn't want that word because the facilitator maybe won't 679 00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:17.920 get paid as much as a do nothing neutered agent. 680 00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:21.400 Transaction broker and I did. I make myself clear what 681 00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:25.719 transaction brokers are. Yes, they don't do much except get paid. 682 00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:28.760 I know now I want to go back to this 683 00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:30.519 real quick, Festerra turnkey. 684 00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:31.119 Yep. 685 00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:33.679 The biggest thing I think you do is research to 686 00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:35.760 find the best part best for appreciation. 687 00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:36.199 Huge. 688 00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:42.679 You identify properties. People that buy these properties are hooked 689 00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:46.760 up with management. You have redundancy and management, and basically 690 00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:50.679 they sit back. You can't technically call it a passive. 691 00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:51.760 Investment, but it is. 692 00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:54.440 You've made it as passive as it can possibly be. 693 00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:56.639 From the consumer's point of view. 694 00:37:56.679 --> 00:38:00.639 It's passed from the VIRS has different definitions, right, but 695 00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:01.800 oh it's passive. 696 00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:03.760 Sit back and watch it grow. 697 00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:08.079 And it is not a security. They don't pool your money. 698 00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:13.360 It's legally not a security. And you so you're limited 699 00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:17.519 to buy properties in your name and there's nothing wrong 700 00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:20.760 with that. Okay, now, real quick, we're going to talk 701 00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:25.719 about things other aspects about this. You can text me 702 00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:30.480 at seven four seven nine nine nine fifty two eighty. 703 00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:35.320 That's my personal Google number, all right, So it's seven 704 00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:37.360 four seven nine nine nine fifty two eighty or the 705 00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:42.599 short code at iHeart five seven seven thirty nine Okay, 706 00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:44.679 I'm going to go to some other things here. People 707 00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:46.760 have been waiting and I wanted to get did we 708 00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:51.920 get our attorney on I'm still working on it. He 709 00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:54.760 hasn't answered me back yet. I'm still working on it though. 710 00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:57.360 Ask Carolyn if she could hold for that just I 711 00:38:57.400 --> 00:38:59.760 want to try to get some legal advice for her. 712 00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:05.800 On you had a question about the cash app. What 713 00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:07.519 do you need to know about the cash app? 714 00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:12.239 Well, I wanted to let everybody know that they are 715 00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:19.679 actually helping these exchanges rob people of their bigcoin by 716 00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:26.960 telling you that if you buy the bigcoin and put 717 00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:32.840 it in this exchange, that they will they'll sell it 718 00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:35.760 high and then make you money and give you your 719 00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:41.239 money back. Once anybody puts any money in the exchange, 720 00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:42.880 you will never get it back. 721 00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:45.800 And then when you mean, okay, you're talking about with 722 00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:46.639 the cash app. 723 00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:48.519 By the way, just so people listening. 724 00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:51.679 Yes, the cash app is nothing more that it's a 725 00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:55.079 mobile it's a mobile payment system and you can send 726 00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:58.519 or receive money like a venda. But they also have 727 00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:03.360 something which is a CA card and that's like a 728 00:40:03.400 --> 00:40:07.079 debit card. And then they also have direct deposits you 729 00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.960 can make on the app, and then they also have 730 00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:12.519 uh this bitcoin. 731 00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:16.800 You'r to buy stocks. Also, what is going on is 732 00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:21.440 they are working with these exchange people with. 733 00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:23.920 The you're talking about with the bitcoin people. 734 00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:30.880 Yeah, and then once once you inform them that these 735 00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:36.239 people are stealing your bitcoin on their app, give. 736 00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:40.079 Me a rather than making rather than making it universal, 737 00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:43.639 I want you to tell me specifically what happened to you? 738 00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:49.840 Okay, Well, basically they protect these people that area. 739 00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:52.079 I want to know what happened, and I want to 740 00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:55.280 know what happened to you. I don't want to talk 741 00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:59.000 about people protecting and robbing. Why are you saying this 742 00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:03.159 did something thing happened to you? Yeah? 743 00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:07.519 They they contact you and and tell you that if 744 00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:09.239 you buy big coin. 745 00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:11.119 How did they contact you? 746 00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:12.119 How did they connect? 747 00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:18.119 They just randomly contact people, uh from you know, they'll 748 00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:20.360 just contact you on your phone? 749 00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:20.960 Okay? 750 00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:22.840 Did you have to go on CA? 751 00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:23.840 Okay? 752 00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:25.960 John, this is this is. 753 00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:30.559 Not okay, John, Here's what I'm asking you. Got you got? 754 00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:34.760 You got contacted not by cash app, but by someone 755 00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:37.079 who used cash app to rip you off. 756 00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:43.519 Yeah, because they know cash app protects the exchanges. Okay, 757 00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:47.159 and they're not the exchanges, but they pretend. 758 00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:47.840 To be No. 759 00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:50.199 I get it, John, I get it. I get it. 760 00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:56.320 They're helping just like Facebook, Marketplace helps to helps people 761 00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:59.679 rip people off, and next door helps people help rip 762 00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:03.039 people off, and Instagram and all of those. They help 763 00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:06.159 people rip people off by letting them on the platform 764 00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:10.239 without checking them out. I get exactly what you're saying. 765 00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:12.880 I know what you're saying, but it's not unique to 766 00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:16.239 cash app that people are getting ripped off online. So 767 00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:18.039 what I need to know is this, when you say 768 00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:22.280 you were randomly contacted by email, text, or phone, how 769 00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:23.960 were you contacted. 770 00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:28.360 These you're contacted usually by girls that are. 771 00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:29.039 In New York. 772 00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:35.239 Okay, how were you contacted? John, I'm talking about you only. 773 00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:37.840 How were you contacted? 774 00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:41.599 They text you on what app? 775 00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:47.480 Okay, you were contacted on? What's app from? And what 776 00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:49.920 did they What did they say they would do for you. 777 00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:56.840 That they can make you a lot of money if oh. 778 00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:57.840 Okay, got it? And then and then they said in 779 00:42:57.920 --> 00:42:59.880 order for you to do it, you need to go 780 00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:01.440 to cash app. 781 00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:07.239 Right, and then they send you to these exchanges is 782 00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:12.960 like I G or whatever the exchange is. Austin Cash 783 00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:17.480 Exchange is the one that they got me to use 784 00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:21.320 and once you send your money to them to to 785 00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:24.320 you know, shall it high and give you your money back? 786 00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:27.679 They never give you anything back. 787 00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:33.239 The wrong. But here's the thing. Your cash app has 788 00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:37.079 nothing to do with it. All cash apps, Yeah, all 789 00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:38.719 cash app is is a payment. 790 00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:42.079 Say, know this is going on and they and. 791 00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:46.599 So Facebook Marketplace that are scamming their customers, is what 792 00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:47.159 I'm saying. 793 00:43:48.039 --> 00:43:52.480 And when you informed them what is going on, they. 794 00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:56.480 Blame it on you, and they protect them and won't 795 00:43:56.719 --> 00:44:01.280 let you have any information on their scams that are 796 00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:03.880 setting up their their fake exchanges. 797 00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:08.199 Okay, they won't get at you even with the police report. 798 00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:13.920 Or John to get your your ire. Your ire is misdirected. 799 00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:21.599 So I'm I'm confused here because I'm trying to explain 800 00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:24.719 that they are protecting John. 801 00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:29.800 I understand exactly what you're saying. And and every technology 802 00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:37.519 company in the world protects the people who use their platform, Facebook, Marketplace, TikTok, 803 00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:43.039 next Door, every single one in the world does this. Apple. 804 00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:46.920 They won't even unlock a phone of a terrorist to 805 00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:53.400 save lives. Every single technology company in the world does it. 806 00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:58.320 I am saying to you, I understand exactly what you're saying, 807 00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:01.480 you go to cash app and say I was directed 808 00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:04.320 to cash app and I made payment to this exchange, 809 00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:07.840 and this exchange is ripping people off. And cash app said, 810 00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:10.719 if you got ripped off, that's your fault, and they 811 00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:14.800 are absolutely right. I'm not happy that you got ripped off, John, 812 00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:18.760 but you got to be clear. You fell for the scam. 813 00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:22.480 Cash app didn't make you fall for the scam. You're saying, 814 00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:25.920 if cash app knew about these people being scammers, they 815 00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:28.840 should take them off the platform. I agree with you. 816 00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:32.039 I agree with you, but they don't do it that. 817 00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:35.400 They don't owe you for it either. Again, I'm gonna 818 00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.960 go back to Facebook. There are more ripoffs on Facebook 819 00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:41.000 than legit people. Did you know that? 820 00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:43.599 I don't use Facebook? 821 00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:44.960 What about Craigslist? 822 00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:49.199 More ripoffs you once you've been canceled, you know. 823 00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:53.159 I'm like John, John, I want to bet how much 824 00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:57.400 serious an bro? How much did you lose? I just 825 00:45:57.519 --> 00:45:59.400 need to know how much did you lose? 826 00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:00.880 Well? 827 00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:04.320 I was testing the water, so I only used four 828 00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:09.280 hundred dollars. But okay, now that would would get ripped 829 00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:11.360 off for a lot more because they try to get 830 00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:14.440 you to to use like three thousand dollars. 831 00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:17.639 Of course, no, of course I'm not going But the ripoff, 832 00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:20.159 the ripoff is not the cash app. 833 00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:26.119 Well, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that they 834 00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:31.679 when you report the people, they don't do anything about it. 835 00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:34.880 They just blame you when they could at least cancel them. 836 00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:37.079 People like Facebook cancels people. 837 00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:41.840 Facebook doesn't cancel people. Not on the marketplace. They just okay, 838 00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:43.760 you know what they I guess they do if they 839 00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:45.960 find out and then the person just changes their name. 840 00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:49.800 What I'm getting at is it sucks. But but here's 841 00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:51.840 the thing, John, at least you've done one good thing, 842 00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:54.280 and that's warned people. Just because you go to cash 843 00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:57.320 app doesn't mean it's legit because cash app will let 844 00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:01.039 anybody on there. You're absolutely right, just like just like 845 00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:04.440 any of them, they're all the same. They don't check 846 00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:10.360 out participants. Everything invented is being used by scammers, including 847 00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:17.159 Skype and FaceTime and Snapchat and Instagram and TikTok and 848 00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:23.960 Facebook and Facebook marketplace. 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Now, Carolyn, 890 00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:16.239 I'm going to go back to you because our estate 891 00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:20.280 planning attorney wasn't available, but I was able to go 892 00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:23.599 back to previous cases and look at statutes of limitation. 893 00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:31.760 So when in nineteen ninety seven you suspect something went 894 00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:35.440 wrong with your estate because your mom and dad died 895 00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:39.239 and you each got forty grand in cash, was this 896 00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:42.679 after selling the land or was the land still to 897 00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:43.360 be sold? 898 00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:47.119 So, no, the land was never sold. They went into 899 00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:51.039 a corporation. It was all the other cash. 900 00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:56.320 Then what happened to the land that went into the corporation. 901 00:50:57.719 --> 00:50:59.039 We're still on the corporation. 902 00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:02.159 The family owns the land is nothing? 903 00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:03.760 Yes, we still have that. 904 00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:07.320 And is it just the siblings. Are the siblings own 905 00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:10.000 the corporation? Yes? 906 00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:11.639 Okay, go ahead, keep explaining. 907 00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:11.880 Now. 908 00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:16.719 So when I'm looking at this paperwork, I'm seeing the 909 00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:19.960 dispersement out of my mother's estate since she was the 910 00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:24.960 last two paths away. And there is money that went 911 00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:28.079 to a savings, a loan of one hundred thousand, a 912 00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:30.480 new account that was opened for one hundred thousand. 913 00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:32.920 Yeah, but where did this money hold on When you 914 00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:35.320 say it came out of your mom's estate, is that 915 00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:37.199 out of the cash part of the estate. 916 00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:43.480 Yes, out of the dispersement, So before it was before 917 00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:48.000 it was it was separated into forty thousand dollars chunks. 918 00:51:48.360 --> 00:51:50.800 Somebody went in before that and took money. 919 00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:55.920 Well, I see on the disbursement sheet where each child 920 00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:59.360 got twenty thousand, year twenty thousand there. So this was 921 00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:02.159 a disperse meant that I don't know who made. I'm 922 00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:03.079 guessing my brother. 923 00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:07.840 But was it made before? Was it made before the 924 00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:12.320 cash was distributed to the siblings or afterwards? 925 00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:14.679 It was afterwards? 926 00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:18.440 Okay, Well, so there was still money left in your 927 00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:25.079 mom's estate even after you got your forty grand. 928 00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:26.320 Right, so the total amount of her estate was about 929 00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:29.760 six hundred thousand dollars with all the cash and everything. 930 00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:30.280 Got it. 931 00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:32.719 Then the dispersement went out to you. 932 00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:33.519 Know, got it. 933 00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:36.960 Part of that disperstment was for me. But then there's 934 00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:40.400 three hundred and sixty thousand dollars that unaccounted for. It 935 00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:43.480 went to new new accounts. 936 00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:44.039 That were just opened. 937 00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:48.599 Okay, who do you think took that money? Right? 938 00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:52.519 The personal representative, my brother. I think he opened accounts 939 00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:54.960 and put this money in there and no one ever, 940 00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:56.440 no one ever. 941 00:52:57.000 --> 00:52:58.880 Okay, other question, Now I get it. 942 00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:01.559 I get it. So the forty grand each, he thought 943 00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:06.360 that would keep everyone fat and happy. Meanwhile robbed Meanwhile, he. 944 00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:08.280 Robbed about three hundred and sixty grand. 945 00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:12.719 Yes, well, I want to know. 946 00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:15.599 I want to know something. Here, can you trace that? 947 00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:18.320 And when was that three sixty distribution made? 948 00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:21.920 They were all in October of ninety seven. 949 00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:24.320 Oh, back way back then. 950 00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:25.880 Way back then. 951 00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:29.599 So when they when they were settling the estate, this 952 00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:33.199 dispersement went out of that estate to these accounts that 953 00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:39.639 none of my siblings and that you know own. We 954 00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:42.920 don't know who put who owned that money. 955 00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:46.559 Or so you really don't know where the three sixty went. 956 00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:49.079 You just guessed. You just guessed it. 957 00:53:49.400 --> 00:53:52.679 I'm guessing it says it says a new account at 958 00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:56.679 this bank, another savings account. I got a new account 959 00:53:56.760 --> 00:53:59.039 another sixty five thousand. 960 00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:02.079 Okay. 961 00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:04.280 Oh, now here's what I want to know. 962 00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:10.360 Did do the other kids? How many siblings altogether? 963 00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:12.280 There's five of this? 964 00:54:13.199 --> 00:54:13.599 Okay? 965 00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:16.519 Do the other kids know about this? 966 00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:18.000 No? 967 00:54:18.199 --> 00:54:22.320 I talked to my sister. She do nothing about it. 968 00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:25.840 She just knew what we got. My two other brothers 969 00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:27.280 unfortunately have passed away. 970 00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:28.880 Okay, so it would be. 971 00:54:29.800 --> 00:54:34.480 But here's what I found out. It's too late to 972 00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:41.519 do anything legally. It's beyond the statute of limitations, and 973 00:54:41.559 --> 00:54:48.079 it's also beyond what's called the absolute statute of limitations. 974 00:54:48.639 --> 00:54:53.239 What the absolute statute of limitations is means that even 975 00:54:53.320 --> 00:54:58.239 though there's a statute of limitations, sometimes people can resurrect 976 00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:01.320 things based on date of discovery. But then there's an 977 00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:04.800 absolute date that no one can resurrect anything, otherwise our 978 00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:08.119 world would be in a turmoil. The only time you 979 00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:12.239 can go beyond what's called an absolute statute of limitations 980 00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:17.159 is when a law is changed to allow people to 981 00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:23.719 do it, such as the Catholic Church lawsuits the government. 982 00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:26.440 I forget what if it was a state or federal 983 00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:31.880 There were laws passed allowing victims of sexual abuse to 984 00:55:31.960 --> 00:55:35.559 reopen case or to open cases, which allowed a bunch 985 00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:39.119 of lawsuits against I believe, the Catholic Church and the 986 00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:43.599 Boy Scouts. Okay. Then there was one other time when 987 00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:46.679 the law was changed to allow people to get around 988 00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:50.320 the statute of limitations, and that was for sexual assault 989 00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:53.400 in New York, and that was to go after Donald Trump, 990 00:55:53.920 --> 00:55:57.280 because the only lawsuit filed when that law was passed 991 00:55:57.599 --> 00:56:00.360 was the one against Trump, and then the laws buyer. 992 00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:06.719 So without a specific statute allowing to go beyond the 993 00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:12.719 statute limitations, there's nothing you can do about it. However, listen, 994 00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:13.320 go ahead. 995 00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:16.719 One is that for all states? 996 00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:21.400 Yes, well, I don't know. I don't know the statute 997 00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:25.480 for each state, but it's safe to say that I 998 00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:29.119 don't believe there is any state, not any state in 999 00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:35.280 the country that allows an absolute statute of limitations beyond 1000 00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:38.920 twenty or beyond eighteen years. I might be wrong, but 1001 00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:45.360 but here's what you can do as a family or 1002 00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:49.119 as a corporation. If this corporation is run like a 1003 00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:53.840 regular corporation and you all have equal shares, you guys 1004 00:56:54.639 --> 00:56:58.639 can get together and have a meeting, and if you 1005 00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:02.159 find out where that money he went, you can take 1006 00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:07.880 it out of that person's ownership. I mean, as a corporation, 1007 00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:11.679 you guys can vote to do anything, but you don't 1008 00:57:11.719 --> 00:57:14.000 even know where it went. How do you know more 1009 00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:16.199 than how do you know two or three of your 1010 00:57:16.239 --> 00:57:18.320 siblings didn't get in with him to do that? How 1011 00:57:18.320 --> 00:57:21.960 do you know it's just him? 1012 00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:23.599 Just past experience. 1013 00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:26.960 Okay, you got a job ahead of you. You got 1014 00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:29.719 to get your siblings together. There's nothing to prevent you 1015 00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:32.760 guys from taking private action. But you're not going to 1016 00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:35.079 get any You're not going to do any lawsuits based 1017 00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:40.440 on twenty seven years ago. I mean, I mean, so 1018 00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:45.159 it's three hundred and sixty thousand at best, it's going 1019 00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:46.480 to be what's. 1020 00:57:46.239 --> 00:57:50.320 That, Well, there's another one hundred and fifty five thousand 1021 00:57:50.440 --> 00:57:53.480 that they had some CDs that were never cashed in, 1022 00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:54.880 So I don't know what happened to that. 1023 00:57:56.119 --> 00:58:02.119 Wait, so it was more than six hundred thousand. 1024 00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:02.480 More than it could be about one hundred and fifty 1025 00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:04.280 five or three six hundred fifty. 1026 00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:09.320 It's seven fifty. It's seven fifty. You said six hundred 1027 00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:12.920 and cash plus one hundred and fifty No, No, three. 1028 00:58:12.960 --> 00:58:15.079 Three sixty in cash and then one hundred and fifty 1029 00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:16.920 five in the CVS. 1030 00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:21.599 Okay, whatever, look whatever it is. I know you said 1031 00:58:21.639 --> 00:58:25.079 the three sixty, but you said the total cash of 1032 00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:29.920 the estate was six hundred, and if you add one 1033 00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:32.800 hundred and fifty to that, that's seven fifty. And now 1034 00:58:32.880 --> 00:58:35.599 people are pulling their teeth out because we're doing math. 1035 00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:37.920 I gotta let you go. I'm really sorry this happened 1036 00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:39.920 to you. Three oh three seven one three talks seven 1037 00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:48.960 one three eight two five five. 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Jan's got a problem with her uh check 1049 00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:34.239 or some kind of check fraud? 1050 00:59:34.360 --> 00:59:35.679 Hi Jan, what's happening? 1051 00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:37.280 Uh? 1052 00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:38.440 Yes these Tom? 1053 00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:39.519 Yes? 1054 00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:39.840 Oh? 1055 00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:40.440 Hi Jan? 1056 00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:43.920 You too? I mean it's Jan, what's going on? 1057 00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:48.800 Uh? I just want to check with you. I wrote 1058 00:59:48.800 --> 00:59:52.400 a check nang my tax my IRS tax bill for 1059 00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:53.599 my twenty twenty two. 1060 00:59:53.480 --> 00:59:57.239 Taxes twenty twenty two. When did you write that check 1061 00:59:57.320 --> 01:00:00.159 in twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three? 1062 01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:02.960 After? When I did my taxes in twenty twenty three 1063 01:00:03.039 --> 01:00:07.480 for the twenty twenty two tax here right, okay, So yeah, 1064 01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:12.639 when it was due April, did the return, put the check, 1065 01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:14.840 put the check from the return and the mail sent 1066 01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:17.079 it in. It was a big check, it was a 1067 01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:22.039 five figure check. Waited for the statement to come back. 1068 01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:28.840 Saw the check had been cast, and I'm done. Recently, 1069 01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:31.320 I get a notice from the IRS and they want 1070 01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:33.239 to know why I didn't pay my tax bill for 1071 01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:34.239 twenty twenty two. 1072 01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:39.079 Was that money drawn from your account? Yes, you're sure 1073 01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:40.559 of that? That the check cleared. 1074 01:00:41.800 --> 01:00:45.920 Oh yeah, yeah. When I saw the check number on 1075 01:00:46.159 --> 01:00:49.880 the statement and that the check had cleared, as did 1076 01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:54.760 my state return check, so I thought, you know, no problem, 1077 01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:59.519 it's been taken out. Their paid. Recently, get a notice 1078 01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:01.800 from the IRS. They want to know why I didn't 1079 01:01:01.800 --> 01:01:07.519 pay the tax bills and the account has since been closed. 1080 01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:09.320 So I had to go back to the bank to 1081 01:01:09.320 --> 01:01:13.119 get a copy of the check because I told them, 1082 01:01:13.159 --> 01:01:15.119 I said, here's the statement, you cast the check, and 1083 01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:16.519 they said, now we need to see a copy of 1084 01:01:16.519 --> 01:01:19.960 the check that he wrote. So I had to go 1085 01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:22.400 to the bank and have them look at those records. 1086 01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:25.840 And when I got the copy of the check, somebody 1087 01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:28.760 had intercepted the check washed the check, put their name 1088 01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:32.079 on it and cast it in the full amountain. 1089 01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:41.480 Oh my god, oh my god, and let me this 1090 01:01:41.559 --> 01:01:43.400 is how much was that check? 1091 01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:47.280 Over? Forty two dollars? 1092 01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:54.400 Okay, listen, do you know I. 1093 01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:56.639 Mean this is this is still pretty recent. 1094 01:01:56.679 --> 01:01:58.039 Do you know who did it? 1095 01:01:59.280 --> 01:02:02.519 Well, there was a yeah, but it was deposited somewhere. 1096 01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:03.960 It was deposited somewhere. 1097 01:02:04.880 --> 01:02:07.480 Yeah. So so the update and I'll tell you what 1098 01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:10.719 I'm calling, and maybe you can add additional advice. But 1099 01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:13.880 when I called, my bank is Chase. 1100 01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:15.280 Uh. 1101 01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:18.039 And then we went to the fraud department. And when 1102 01:02:18.079 --> 01:02:20.159 I was talking to the fraud department, they knew the bank 1103 01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:24.880 that cashed the check. It wasn't in the Chase Chase system. 1104 01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:28.800 But the fraud individual I spoke to said that he 1105 01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:30.119 knew what the bank was. And then they had to 1106 01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:31.880 fill out this form and send it in so they 1107 01:02:31.880 --> 01:02:36.280 could start the investigation. And that's kind of where I'm at. 1108 01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:41.559 But they were also saying, well, you need to report 1109 01:02:41.559 --> 01:02:48.920 this to the police, and I'm like where why, I mean, 1110 01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:52.719 it's major league, except you know, I don't even know 1111 01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:53.800 where you where it would be. 1112 01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:55.360 Well, of course, of course you have to get a 1113 01:02:55.360 --> 01:02:56.039 police report. 1114 01:02:57.360 --> 01:02:58.760 Okay, well I didn't know that. 1115 01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:03.480 Why wouldn't you get a police report? Now, I think 1116 01:03:03.480 --> 01:03:07.159 the bank has some responsibility, but I don't know how 1117 01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:09.519 good the wash job. I don't know how they do that. 1118 01:03:09.599 --> 01:03:13.760 I mean, you say the check was washed? They man, 1119 01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:19.239 this is this is unbelievable. Someone took the irs out 1120 01:03:19.239 --> 01:03:21.480 of there and put their name in it. But if 1121 01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:24.559 they know, they know where that check was, was was 1122 01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:28.840 deposited though, there's a record of that on the canceled check. 1123 01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:31.480 Well where's the bank? What is the bank? 1124 01:03:32.920 --> 01:03:34.880 Well, they knew the name of the bank, so I 1125 01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:35.800 don't have that detail. 1126 01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:41.719 You did they deposit it or cash it for cash? 1127 01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:42.719 That I don't know? 1128 01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:49.199 Okay, Well, but they had to have cashed it somewhere. 1129 01:03:50.079 --> 01:03:56.119 So where did they cash it? That's all on the check, 1130 01:03:56.159 --> 01:03:58.199 bro That's all on the check. 1131 01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:02.480 I'll look on the back of the check to see 1132 01:04:02.480 --> 01:04:05.679 if it's there. But the fraud person knew what bank 1133 01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:08.440 it was, so they were going back to that bank 1134 01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:10.360 to do the investigations. 1135 01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:13.239 Well why don't they tell you what it was on? 1136 01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:18.519 Well they did. It was like VCD bank or something 1137 01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:21.639 like that. Then you know, that's the only detail I 1138 01:04:21.639 --> 01:04:22.199 have right now. 1139 01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:29.079 Well, okay, so now you do your own investigation and 1140 01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:31.599 then also go to the police. 1141 01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:34.400 Okay, okay. So if I go to the police, which 1142 01:04:34.519 --> 01:04:35.760 police department doing, say. 1143 01:04:35.679 --> 01:04:38.159 There's an account number and everything on there, and that 1144 01:04:38.239 --> 01:04:41.079 account number is tied to a customer. I mean, they 1145 01:04:41.079 --> 01:04:43.480 don't just cast checks unless they have an account there. 1146 01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:46.960 So look at man, you know you need a private 1147 01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:50.960 detective or you need police or both because you don't. 1148 01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:53.119 Here's what I would do. I'd go to the police, 1149 01:04:53.760 --> 01:04:55.960 I do all of that. Then I would go to 1150 01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:59.760 the bank. I would actually have an attorney sue them 1151 01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:03.480 or subpoena them or do something. Because the check was 1152 01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:08.079 obviously fraudulent. I would make that bank give me the 1153 01:05:08.119 --> 01:05:12.360 records of that person on that account. But the name 1154 01:05:12.440 --> 01:05:14.440 is on the check. What's the person's name. 1155 01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:18.480 I'm not looking at it right at the moment, but 1156 01:05:18.559 --> 01:05:25.159 it was like Dominique Rigez or something like that, and 1157 01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:26.679 the name is clearly on there. 1158 01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:29.920 Okay. Then I would go to the bank with that 1159 01:05:30.039 --> 01:05:33.239 name and the account number and say, I need information 1160 01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:39.599 on this guy he robbed me on the bank that 1161 01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:42.519 casts the check, that's right, and open up a fraud 1162 01:05:42.559 --> 01:05:46.519 investigation there that's right. You're a victim, and if they 1163 01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:52.119 don't help you, you sue that bank for the money, okay, 1164 01:05:52.760 --> 01:05:54.760 and you get an attorney to help you, and you 1165 01:05:55.480 --> 01:05:58.159 fill out a police report. Man, all of this, all 1166 01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:00.320 of the above, not some of it, all of it. 1167 01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:03.159 I feel bad for you. 1168 01:06:03.199 --> 01:06:05.840 What an attorney? What what attorney? Would it be a 1169 01:06:05.840 --> 01:06:07.880 criminal attorney, a civil attorney. 1170 01:06:07.960 --> 01:06:11.119 It's a civil attorney. You would you would sue for 1171 01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:13.880 do you would sue the bank only if they don't. 1172 01:06:13.679 --> 01:06:19.440 Help you, Okay, okay, okay? And then reporting the police? 1173 01:06:19.599 --> 01:06:23.199 What police department? Any Where would I go to go? 1174 01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:26.119 Well, where is. 1175 01:06:29.079 --> 01:06:29.360 Where? 1176 01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:32.320 Where's the bank? Look, where's your bank located? 1177 01:06:32.840 --> 01:06:35.239 Not that bank. I would go to the bank where 1178 01:06:35.280 --> 01:06:37.639 it was cash. That's where the crime happened. 1179 01:06:37.760 --> 01:06:40.960 So, Jen, I had a couple of checks washed when 1180 01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:45.119 we had our business. They went through the dumpster, washed them, 1181 01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:47.360 and the first thing I had to do is go 1182 01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:50.159 to the police department and fulfill out a report. 1183 01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:51.559 Once the report. 1184 01:06:51.280 --> 01:06:54.039 Is failed out, you take it to the bank and 1185 01:06:54.039 --> 01:06:55.880 the bank will probably reimburse you. 1186 01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:59.360 But that's the most important to do. The police report first. 1187 01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:01.480 So they know that the crime is being committed by 1188 01:07:01.480 --> 01:07:04.079 the crafting or police report. 1189 01:07:06.840 --> 01:07:10.760 Okay, I get that. So what police department do I 1190 01:07:10.840 --> 01:07:11.159 go to? 1191 01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:13.880 I would go to the one a lot of time. 1192 01:07:13.880 --> 01:07:18.360 Where the bank is located where the crime took place. 1193 01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:22.719 The crime did not take place at your bank. The 1194 01:07:22.800 --> 01:07:27.760 crime took place where the thing was deposited or cashed. 1195 01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:31.559 That is that BMO or whatever frickin' bank it is. 1196 01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:32.840 That's where you go. 1197 01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:35.840 I need to find that out. 1198 01:07:36.800 --> 01:07:38.639 Yeah, we got to take a break. 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They could be in 1218 01:08:39.960 --> 01:08:43.319 and out in thirty five no charge whatsoever, No charge 1219 01:08:43.319 --> 01:08:44.279 whatsoever ever. 1220 01:08:44.720 --> 01:08:47.520 Okay, and uh a chance to win one hundred bucks, 1221 01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:50.000 but don't go there for that. I mean, truly, truly 1222 01:08:50.640 --> 01:08:53.199 if you're interested. Is see, so many people have thought 1223 01:08:53.199 --> 01:08:56.560 about real estate, but they don't really have the knowledge, 1224 01:08:56.560 --> 01:08:58.119 and they can get into trouble, and they don't want 1225 01:08:58.119 --> 01:08:59.640 to have negative cash flow, and they don't want to 1226 01:08:59.640 --> 01:09:04.239 have people will deadbeat renters and none of that they 1227 01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:06.520 have to worry about. So when I said that, you 1228 01:09:06.560 --> 01:09:10.079 guys handle all the details. Somebody wants to know who 1229 01:09:10.119 --> 01:09:11.039 owns the property. 1230 01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:17.359 The consumer. Now they frequently form an LLC, but it's there. 1231 01:09:16.960 --> 01:09:20.159 Each investor that contacts you, who you call a consumer 1232 01:09:20.600 --> 01:09:24.239 or your customer customer. They contact you, You put them 1233 01:09:24.279 --> 01:09:27.800 in touch with a property that you've researched thoroughly, and 1234 01:09:27.840 --> 01:09:31.199 then you buy it. They buy it. Okay, you guys 1235 01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:35.920 hook them up with a manager and then they own 1236 01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:40.680 the property. So a customer can buy one or more properties, 1237 01:09:40.760 --> 01:09:44.079 one or more no limit, but you're not sharing the 1238 01:09:44.119 --> 01:09:47.720 property with anyone else, all right, And that's that. That 1239 01:09:47.880 --> 01:09:50.920 seminars this week this Saturday, ten in the morning, My 1240 01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:53.760 Biggest Return dot com. If you have questions, call us. 1241 01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:57.840 It's an interesting concept. Vestera a turnkey and it makes 1242 01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:02.479 real estate really within the grass of most people. But 1243 01:10:02.560 --> 01:10:05.279 what does it take as far as investment, we'll talk 1244 01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:09.359 about that. Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer 1245 01:10:09.479 --> 01:10:12.399 Excel Roofing dot com. You don't pay a cent until 1246 01:10:12.399 --> 01:10:18.279 you're content. Time for an insurance check up free, no 1247 01:10:18.359 --> 01:10:22.760 obligation comparison call Compass Insurance. Pay too much your coverage 1248 01:10:22.760 --> 01:10:25.439 at dozens of insurance companies find out now three oh 1249 01:10:25.479 --> 01:10:27.960 three seven seven to one help. You'll think you're his 1250 01:10:28.119 --> 01:10:30.720 only customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate 1251 01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:34.000 Man dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance 1252 01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:38.239 three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. 1253 01:10:42.199 --> 01:10:47.439 D news you need so you don't have. 1254 01:10:50.039 --> 01:10:50.680 Run anxious. 1255 01:10:50.760 --> 01:10:55.239 As fast as we can, Shooter's gonna help come. 1256 01:10:56.800 --> 01:11:02.800 This is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martine, Hey, welcome 1257 01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:03.319 to the show. 1258 01:11:03.399 --> 01:11:04.000 I'm Tom. 1259 01:11:04.199 --> 01:11:06.399 What's going on in your life? And how can we 1260 01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:09.039 help you? I asked that each and every day, and 1261 01:11:09.560 --> 01:11:12.600 I'll tell you yesterday was when we asked that question. 1262 01:11:12.680 --> 01:11:16.680 We never knew we would help save a life. And 1263 01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:19.279 I'll recap that real quick, and then the FedEx thing 1264 01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:21.800 and then your calls. And we have Barry Miller with 1265 01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:27.079 us vesta turnkey, which is a real estate investment strategy 1266 01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:31.319 where you it's basically hands off and you have it researched, 1267 01:11:31.399 --> 01:11:36.159 actively managed, and sold and you profit. So people are 1268 01:11:36.199 --> 01:11:38.399 asking where they make their money. People are asking do 1269 01:11:38.439 --> 01:11:40.800 I own the property? People are asking, am I pulled 1270 01:11:40.840 --> 01:11:43.560 with other people that? People are asking what if I 1271 01:11:43.600 --> 01:11:45.560 want to get out early? People are asking all kinds 1272 01:11:45.600 --> 01:11:49.840 of questions, So I'll get to those. So, first things, 1273 01:11:50.159 --> 01:11:58.840 you're not puoled with other people. You own the properties individually, right, yes? Okay? Second, 1274 01:11:59.159 --> 01:12:00.439 how many properties you own? 1275 01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:02.039 Chris money as you want? 1276 01:12:02.239 --> 01:12:04.840 Okay, So what does it take to own a property? 1277 01:12:04.960 --> 01:12:08.079 Ten fifteen, twenty, twenty five, thirty thirty five, forty forty five, 1278 01:12:08.079 --> 01:12:09.319 fifty cush You're going to leverage them? 1279 01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:12.199 A couple of numbers twenty five percent down is the 1280 01:12:12.239 --> 01:12:14.119 going rates clinders have? 1281 01:12:14.279 --> 01:12:16.119 Okay, what are the prices of the house. 1282 01:12:16.319 --> 01:12:20.199 Well, so fifty five thousand would get started. We don't 1283 01:12:20.239 --> 01:12:23.640 go to the high prices. They don't make as much return, 1284 01:12:24.199 --> 01:12:27.840 So typically fifty five to eighty thousand property. 1285 01:12:28.479 --> 01:12:30.399 And but what are the then that would make those 1286 01:12:30.439 --> 01:12:31.720 properties four. 1287 01:12:31.720 --> 01:12:34.119 Hundred hundred three twenty five three. 1288 01:12:34.159 --> 01:12:37.840 Fifty Now you can still find houses for that? 1289 01:12:38.319 --> 01:12:40.399 Are then the best markets in the country? 1290 01:12:41.279 --> 01:12:41.640 Really? 1291 01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:42.079 Yeah? 1292 01:12:42.720 --> 01:12:43.199 Okay? 1293 01:12:43.439 --> 01:12:43.880 And then. 1294 01:12:45.880 --> 01:12:47.720 Would they own the houses? Okay? 1295 01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:49.479 And what do they need to get out early? 1296 01:12:50.520 --> 01:12:52.840 Just the decision I mean we're giving them. We have 1297 01:12:52.960 --> 01:12:56.760 what we call a protection research department. After they own 1298 01:12:56.840 --> 01:13:00.960 the property, we're watching, monitoring the neighbor hood, the city 1299 01:13:01.359 --> 01:13:06.079 for appreciation, and we have like twenty five different economic 1300 01:13:06.239 --> 01:13:09.560 vantage points. They'll know if there's a little slow down 1301 01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:13.520 or they will tell us, Barry, we want maximum return. 1302 01:13:14.399 --> 01:13:16.960 Hold it for two years, We'll sell that property and 1303 01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:19.960 they'll buy two more. No cash out of their pocket. 1304 01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:22.600 Ten thirty one tax exchange. 1305 01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:26.640 Okay, Now what if they just want to cash out, 1306 01:13:26.680 --> 01:13:28.159 they don't have to do an exchange. 1307 01:13:28.199 --> 01:13:29.840 They don't have to do an exchange. 1308 01:13:30.159 --> 01:13:32.880 First of all, there's lots of liquidity in real estate 1309 01:13:32.920 --> 01:13:36.960 that people forget about because certain friends of ours in 1310 01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:40.239 a different industry like to say it's not liquid. Yeah, 1311 01:13:40.239 --> 01:13:44.479 but you could borrow, you could do helocks. 1312 01:13:43.399 --> 01:13:45.039 Lines of credit, etc. 1313 01:13:45.319 --> 01:13:47.800 But if someone wants to sell and get out early, 1314 01:13:48.760 --> 01:13:52.680 early is in the pocketbook of the beholder. 1315 01:13:52.760 --> 01:13:54.600 Well, now, you said you've been in business for a 1316 01:13:54.640 --> 01:13:58.680 while with this, and you've been doing it over and over. 1317 01:13:58.760 --> 01:14:00.560 So what's the average old time? 1318 01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:06.319 Old time is about three years? Under three years, but 1319 01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:10.159 about three years because people want to sell one and 1320 01:14:10.239 --> 01:14:13.520 buy two from the gain that they had such big. 1321 01:14:13.279 --> 01:14:16.439 Gains, Okay, or they can cash. 1322 01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:18.479 Out, well, they could cash out right and they. 1323 01:14:18.399 --> 01:14:21.239 Pay tax when they cash out, obviously, but a lot. 1324 01:14:21.119 --> 01:14:24.399 Of people are using it as their biggest retirement plan. 1325 01:14:24.640 --> 01:14:26.680 Can you put it in a retirement plan? 1326 01:14:26.920 --> 01:14:27.039 Oh? 1327 01:14:27.119 --> 01:14:28.760 Yes, so you can put it in a trust and 1328 01:14:28.840 --> 01:14:29.560 things like that. 1329 01:14:29.640 --> 01:14:31.279 Right, that's I'm telling you. 1330 01:14:31.279 --> 01:14:33.560 You can. You can do it in a self directed IRA. 1331 01:14:36.560 --> 01:14:37.520 You can pull the money. 1332 01:14:37.520 --> 01:14:38.600 You can you can. 1333 01:14:39.159 --> 01:14:41.119 It has to be done in a very special way, 1334 01:14:41.199 --> 01:14:47.000 but it can be done. And we can't talk. But 1335 01:14:47.319 --> 01:14:49.199 there's going to be very easy ways to do that 1336 01:14:49.439 --> 01:14:51.920 very shortly. But you can do that with a self 1337 01:14:51.920 --> 01:14:56.039 directed IRA or for one k. And then also, how 1338 01:14:56.039 --> 01:14:58.600 do you make your money? People always want to know that. 1339 01:14:58.760 --> 01:15:00.239 And I don't think there's anything wrong. How do you 1340 01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:01.880 make your money? You're not doing this out of good I. 1341 01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:05.800 Mean how we get paid? Well, we love that question. Well, 1342 01:15:05.840 --> 01:15:09.399 no direct pay from the consumer. The consumer buys the property, 1343 01:15:09.439 --> 01:15:14.079 the property has the buyer agent. We have vetted super 1344 01:15:14.159 --> 01:15:14.760 carefully for. 1345 01:15:14.840 --> 01:15:16.239 You don't mark up the properties. 1346 01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:19.600 Oh no, no, no, we want to mark down the buyer. 1347 01:15:20.199 --> 01:15:22.239 So you make a normal commission. 1348 01:15:23.319 --> 01:15:25.760 A portion of it as as a referral fee. We 1349 01:15:25.800 --> 01:15:28.720 don't get any The buyer doesn't pay any extra money. 1350 01:15:28.840 --> 01:15:29.279 No, I get. 1351 01:15:29.920 --> 01:15:31.960 So you make your commissions on the buying. 1352 01:15:31.880 --> 01:15:34.760 On the buying and on the selling and on the selling. 1353 01:15:34.439 --> 01:15:37.600 And then the management company makes this normal fees. You 1354 01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:39.239 don't mark up the management. 1355 01:15:38.840 --> 01:15:41.479 No, we try to get that down. We send that. 1356 01:15:41.600 --> 01:15:44.479 You don't make money off the management. That's a straight 1357 01:15:44.560 --> 01:15:45.199 pass through us. 1358 01:15:45.199 --> 01:15:49.720 Straight. We passed through everything except the commission commission. 1359 01:15:49.840 --> 01:15:53.239 So how can you do this for just commissions? 1360 01:15:53.680 --> 01:15:56.399 We do it very well, is how we do it. 1361 01:15:56.479 --> 01:15:59.279 Time We make a very good living, but we do 1362 01:15:59.359 --> 01:16:01.000 it very well well because you've. 1363 01:16:00.840 --> 01:16:01.920 Got to pipeline cover. 1364 01:16:04.479 --> 01:16:09.239 And you got houses being sold, you got exchanges being made. 1365 01:16:08.840 --> 01:16:12.479 Research, research and research so that we find more cities, 1366 01:16:12.600 --> 01:16:14.840 more homes, and more buyers. 1367 01:16:15.079 --> 01:16:17.600 You know, this really fascinates me, It really does. 1368 01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:22.920 And and I am definitely going to get involved. 1369 01:16:22.920 --> 01:16:25.199 I mean this, Yeah, there's. 1370 01:16:25.079 --> 01:16:26.359 Good ways to be involved in. 1371 01:16:26.720 --> 01:16:29.479 I know, there's some interesting pieces of. 1372 01:16:29.439 --> 01:16:31.239 It I'm not getting. I think it's wonderful. 1373 01:16:31.520 --> 01:16:36.199 And I like the idea that you're not flying out 1374 01:16:36.199 --> 01:16:38.920 there to take care of a broken piper. You're not 1375 01:16:39.079 --> 01:16:40.479 dealing with stuff. 1376 01:16:40.399 --> 01:16:41.119 You don't have to. 1377 01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:47.079 And on that note, our properties are not fixed and flip. 1378 01:16:47.079 --> 01:16:49.720 We're on the other side of fix and flip where 1379 01:16:49.840 --> 01:16:53.840 cherry picking the best properties. We have the best negotiators 1380 01:16:54.239 --> 01:16:57.960 in those cities getting the best properties. So we don't 1381 01:16:58.399 --> 01:17:01.359 have we don't want any deferred maintenance. 1382 01:17:01.680 --> 01:17:04.039 But we have very very very little. 1383 01:17:04.319 --> 01:17:07.760 Under three percent of the properties have a deferred maintenance 1384 01:17:07.800 --> 01:17:10.039 come up in a two year period. 1385 01:17:10.720 --> 01:17:16.199 All right, let's now talk to Deputy Dollar, who's got 1386 01:17:16.239 --> 01:17:19.960 a follow up? Deputy Dollar, which one is this from 1387 01:17:20.039 --> 01:17:21.439 August fourteenth? 1388 01:17:21.640 --> 01:17:25.520 Jonathan Jonathan and Metro PCs. 1389 01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:28.760 Okay, I'll look at the date. But anyway, what was 1390 01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:30.640 the what was the problem. 1391 01:17:31.279 --> 01:17:35.680 So Jonathan's a customer of Metro PCs and he just 1392 01:17:35.840 --> 01:17:38.640 one day he got up and he had two phones 1393 01:17:38.680 --> 01:17:42.399 with them and the number number had gotten ported. 1394 01:17:42.479 --> 01:17:44.760 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, something said that there was a 1395 01:17:44.840 --> 01:17:47.319 change made to his account. Yeah, and he found out 1396 01:17:47.399 --> 01:17:53.960 his number was ported to someone else's phone exactly. 1397 01:17:52.920 --> 01:17:54.760 And he has no service. So what happened? 1398 01:17:55.079 --> 01:17:59.199 Well, so I reached out to Well, Metro PCs is 1399 01:17:59.199 --> 01:18:02.079 owned now by Team Mobile, so he reached out to 1400 01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:08.720 a media relations person at Mobile and she got a 1401 01:18:08.760 --> 01:18:12.920 hold of Jonathan. Jonathan got his phone numbers back. I mean, 1402 01:18:12.960 --> 01:18:14.119 he was happy as can be. 1403 01:18:14.720 --> 01:18:15.039 Wow. 1404 01:18:16.000 --> 01:18:20.359 And Jonathan he does pinstriping, that's his job, and he 1405 01:18:20.439 --> 01:18:25.039 was up in Sturgis and like he had previous customers, 1406 01:18:25.119 --> 01:18:27.960 like his whole business was on his phone. He had 1407 01:18:28.399 --> 01:18:30.960 no access to access, but he was happy to get 1408 01:18:30.960 --> 01:18:32.000 everything back. Everything. 1409 01:18:32.760 --> 01:18:36.560 Well, man, that's good news, because you know what happens 1410 01:18:36.600 --> 01:18:39.239 when we get good news. I get to use my dinger. 1411 01:18:41.960 --> 01:18:48.159 It's good to have a dinger. Folks, and dollar were 1412 01:18:48.439 --> 01:18:50.520 seriously appreciate anything else you're working on. 1413 01:18:52.119 --> 01:18:55.279 I'm well, I'm still working on this one from a 1414 01:18:55.319 --> 01:18:58.800 couple of weeks ago. It was Bob and his wife. 1415 01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:01.800 They lived down in Hunt of Colorado and had a 1416 01:19:01.840 --> 01:19:06.359 warranty issue with an LG refrigeratorator. Yes, I think they 1417 01:19:06.520 --> 01:19:08.600 bought from LOWSS. 1418 01:19:08.680 --> 01:19:09.560 Yeah, but LG. 1419 01:19:09.840 --> 01:19:14.560 That's saying, yeah, that they didn't have a service person 1420 01:19:14.840 --> 01:19:15.840 near the near. 1421 01:19:15.720 --> 01:19:18.479 The Hunt, that's right, So what are we doing about that? 1422 01:19:18.520 --> 01:19:21.760 Well, so when I looked up the case on the 1423 01:19:21.920 --> 01:19:26.359 LG website website, and it actually said said service call 1424 01:19:26.479 --> 01:19:29.720 canceled or something, and so I reached I went back 1425 01:19:29.760 --> 01:19:32.399 to Bob and said, you guys need to start, you know, 1426 01:19:32.520 --> 01:19:35.840 open up a new claim and try and get this 1427 01:19:35.960 --> 01:19:38.880 going again. Keep me posted. So that's where we are 1428 01:19:38.960 --> 01:19:39.680 right now. 1429 01:19:39.640 --> 01:19:40.119 Right now. 1430 01:19:40.359 --> 01:19:43.000 Okay, thank you, dollar appreciate it. Three O three seven 1431 01:19:43.039 --> 01:19:45.119 to one to three talk or three oh three Martino 1432 01:19:45.199 --> 01:19:47.279 of course, three three six, two seventy four to sixty six. 1433 01:19:47.520 --> 01:19:51.479 Renew Home Innovations for your shower conversions. Second and one 1434 01:19:51.479 --> 01:19:54.239 their beautiful like they have walls like. 1435 01:19:54.319 --> 01:19:56.079 Stone, right, looks just like stone. 1436 01:19:56.079 --> 01:19:59.560 No maintenance, they have glass panels, perimeter drains, no thresholds 1437 01:19:59.560 --> 01:20:03.199 to step or stumble over. 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You'll think you're 1448 01:20:41.600 --> 01:20:44.119 his only customer when you choose Frank durand the real 1449 01:20:44.199 --> 01:20:47.239 estate Man dot com to list your home with Remax 1450 01:20:47.239 --> 01:20:54.680 Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. 1451 01:20:55.239 --> 01:20:59.279 Hi Tom Martino here three oh three seven one three 1452 01:20:59.399 --> 01:21:03.319 talk seven one three eight two five five. Welcome to 1453 01:21:03.359 --> 01:21:06.600 the show. Let's talk and find out what we can 1454 01:21:06.640 --> 01:21:11.920 do for you. Now we have some texts. Okay, So 1455 01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:18.319 you mentioned Barry Miller's with us from Vestura Turnkey Vestera Turnkey, 1456 01:21:18.800 --> 01:21:22.600 and you mentioned that you do ten thirty ones. Mostly 1457 01:21:22.680 --> 01:21:25.000 people want to stay in it, so they start out 1458 01:21:25.000 --> 01:21:26.600 with one might be able to buy two after that 1459 01:21:26.760 --> 01:21:30.159 or three or whatever. And do you guys have the 1460 01:21:30.359 --> 01:21:33.880 exchange the ten thirty one exchange person you use, do 1461 01:21:33.960 --> 01:21:35.079 you refer them that they. 1462 01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:37.520 Find their own? How do they who handles that ten. 1463 01:21:37.399 --> 01:21:40.560 Thirty Again, the word turnkey covers everything. 1464 01:21:40.600 --> 01:21:41.960 We have a really. 1465 01:21:41.680 --> 01:21:46.079 Top notch IPX ten thirty one company. That's their name, 1466 01:21:46.720 --> 01:21:48.680 outstanding outstanding people. 1467 01:21:49.319 --> 01:21:52.079 So give me an example if you can of a 1468 01:21:52.119 --> 01:21:54.399 person who started out with one house and where they 1469 01:21:54.399 --> 01:21:54.920 are today. 1470 01:21:54.960 --> 01:21:56.800 One of your best stories if you have one. 1471 01:21:57.840 --> 01:22:01.520 Sure, sure, great, great, great great. A couple they were 1472 01:22:01.520 --> 01:22:05.439 in their fifties when they started and started out with 1473 01:22:05.520 --> 01:22:09.000 one property, said Barry, this is something else, and within 1474 01:22:09.479 --> 01:22:11.800 six months they purchased three more. 1475 01:22:12.560 --> 01:22:14.840 Okay, now this was four years ago. 1476 01:22:15.640 --> 01:22:20.159 They now are selling those three properties here in Colorado. 1477 01:22:20.199 --> 01:22:23.760 Colorado Springs was once a hot spot. Right, it priced 1478 01:22:23.840 --> 01:22:25.960 itself out, which is success. 1479 01:22:26.199 --> 01:22:29.560 And you counsel them when that happens, but counsel. 1480 01:22:29.319 --> 01:22:29.720 Them in it. 1481 01:22:29.920 --> 01:22:32.479 But that was a great area, and what happened. 1482 01:22:33.039 --> 01:22:37.479 They have sold one of the properties already and buying 1483 01:22:37.600 --> 01:22:41.600 two in one of our hot spots. And then they 1484 01:22:41.600 --> 01:22:44.199 have two more properties that they'll be listing when the 1485 01:22:44.319 --> 01:22:48.560 tenants leases up. Okay, one of them's up in four months, 1486 01:22:48.600 --> 01:22:51.159 one of them's up in eight months. They'll sell those 1487 01:22:51.199 --> 01:22:54.960 properties and each of those properties in Colorado Springs will 1488 01:22:55.000 --> 01:22:59.520 buy two or three new properties in the hot spots city. 1489 01:23:00.039 --> 01:23:03.039 They're going for a retirement package. So they'll have over 1490 01:23:03.159 --> 01:23:08.119 fifteen thousand of cash flow in the next eight years 1491 01:23:08.359 --> 01:23:10.640 and we're on track for that eight years from. 1492 01:23:10.479 --> 01:23:15.920 Now, fifteen thousand a month cash flow and equity. 1493 01:23:15.479 --> 01:23:19.600 Of what equity will be in their case, about two 1494 01:23:19.680 --> 01:23:23.920 and a half million. Wow, and they're doing it. They 1495 01:23:24.399 --> 01:23:27.720 started with one property. That's the only out of pocket 1496 01:23:27.760 --> 01:23:30.640 money that they really had to do. Then they said, 1497 01:23:30.680 --> 01:23:33.760 wait a minute, this is gaining such equity. Let's sell 1498 01:23:33.800 --> 01:23:36.239 one and buy two and we'll do that. 1499 01:23:36.319 --> 01:23:38.319 You know, people, here's your chance, because I know you 1500 01:23:38.359 --> 01:23:41.640 hear this advertised a lot and Brownie does some ass 1501 01:23:41.680 --> 01:23:41.960 for it. 1502 01:23:42.399 --> 01:23:46.159 Michael brown he's a believer. But here's the chance. 1503 01:23:45.960 --> 01:23:49.800 To talk to talk to Barry and ask him questions, 1504 01:23:50.399 --> 01:23:53.880 maybe things I haven't thought of. We already answered that 1505 01:23:53.920 --> 01:23:57.199 and that, and then how about okay, how do you 1506 01:23:57.319 --> 01:24:00.439 project returns? How do people project the return? I mean, 1507 01:24:00.520 --> 01:24:03.079 is it accurate or is it guesswork or what? How 1508 01:24:03.119 --> 01:24:03.760 do you do that? 1509 01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:06.399 Well, we get asked that question a lot. 1510 01:24:06.560 --> 01:24:11.279 My first one word answer is always conservatively, but the 1511 01:24:11.319 --> 01:24:17.159 second word is even more important, correctly, heavy duty research 1512 01:24:17.279 --> 01:24:22.560 over fifty five economic advantage points to do the calculus, 1513 01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:26.479 bring it all together, I mean, minute little things so 1514 01:24:26.520 --> 01:24:31.199 that we could find out is that city in which 1515 01:24:31.279 --> 01:24:35.000 the property is located going to have a strong economy 1516 01:24:35.239 --> 01:24:40.760 at least three years from now? That is difficult, difficult research. 1517 01:24:40.920 --> 01:24:43.119 How do you go about researching that kind of stuff? 1518 01:24:43.279 --> 01:24:46.720 Well, again, we get asked that so much. I don't 1519 01:24:46.760 --> 01:24:49.640 want it to be a flip and answer, but very 1520 01:24:49.880 --> 01:24:53.279 very carefully and thoroughly, and it takes a lot of time. 1521 01:24:53.800 --> 01:24:55.600 We have and it keeps growing. 1522 01:24:55.680 --> 01:24:59.560 It's more than fifty five economic vantage points. We're probably 1523 01:24:59.560 --> 01:25:02.319 close to seventy if I were to add all of 1524 01:25:02.359 --> 01:25:05.319 those that we added just in the last five years. 1525 01:25:05.840 --> 01:25:10.039 Because of technology, we get more and more data. But Tom, 1526 01:25:10.319 --> 01:25:14.319 it's everything you know. One key word though, is jobs. 1527 01:25:13.960 --> 01:25:19.239 What what jobs are being created? And what industries and 1528 01:25:19.279 --> 01:25:21.079 are those industries. 1529 01:25:22.079 --> 01:25:22.560 Permanent? 1530 01:25:22.920 --> 01:25:26.439 Is it going to be a long time gain? And 1531 01:25:26.479 --> 01:25:29.279 then we match this So now we're doing this for 1532 01:25:29.479 --> 01:25:33.760 sixty different cities who already are the top sixty cities 1533 01:25:34.119 --> 01:25:38.239 in real estate terms. So we're looking for the top five, six, 1534 01:25:38.439 --> 01:25:42.600 seven eight cities in the country that have the magic 1535 01:25:42.760 --> 01:25:46.920 called a good economy for minimum the next three years. 1536 01:25:47.079 --> 01:25:48.800 All right, here's another question. 1537 01:25:49.800 --> 01:25:55.000 But what happens Tom when there's a recession? Does he 1538 01:25:55.119 --> 01:25:58.640 just throw up his hands? You know, what does happen? 1539 01:25:58.720 --> 01:26:01.079 I mean we I don't know we'll ever have a 1540 01:26:01.119 --> 01:26:03.159 recession like we had in the mid. 1541 01:26:03.760 --> 01:26:06.840 Uh two thousand and eight and onward. 1542 01:26:07.279 --> 01:26:09.399 What do you think I mean, well, you must have 1543 01:26:09.479 --> 01:26:10.800 given recession a thought. 1544 01:26:10.960 --> 01:26:13.319 Oh we went through that recession. 1545 01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:17.359 Wait wait wait you were operating through that recession. Okay, 1546 01:26:17.399 --> 01:26:18.920 did people go flat? What happened? 1547 01:26:18.960 --> 01:26:24.239 No? No, we had we had all kinds of money available 1548 01:26:24.840 --> 01:26:29.560 from our customers that they had. I'm trying to be 1549 01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:33.079 brief here. The many customers gave us access to their 1550 01:26:33.119 --> 01:26:36.039 bank accounts so we could get people in line to 1551 01:26:36.159 --> 01:26:39.960 buy such hot properties in these hot markets. Okay, we 1552 01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:43.199 would pay college kids to stand in line the night 1553 01:26:43.239 --> 01:26:46.359 before so we could get you know, the first properties. 1554 01:26:46.520 --> 01:26:49.119 They were on a first come, first serve basis. So 1555 01:26:49.239 --> 01:26:52.119 when we saw the recession coming, what we did was 1556 01:26:52.239 --> 01:26:52.840 pulled back. 1557 01:26:52.960 --> 01:26:53.800 All that money. 1558 01:26:54.079 --> 01:26:57.079 We had some earnest money deposits out, We got every 1559 01:26:57.119 --> 01:27:00.359 single one of them back. We saw it coming, we 1560 01:27:00.439 --> 01:27:02.119 did not know it was going to be as bad 1561 01:27:02.159 --> 01:27:06.880 as it was. We stopped buying properties and we pulled back. 1562 01:27:06.960 --> 01:27:10.239 And then and then the people who had properties we 1563 01:27:10.359 --> 01:27:12.680 said early on, get out. 1564 01:27:12.880 --> 01:27:14.000 Now we have research. 1565 01:27:14.079 --> 01:27:16.399 And I was saying, I mean, I'm not disputing what 1566 01:27:16.439 --> 01:27:20.800 you're saying, but a lot of I was told, a 1567 01:27:20.840 --> 01:27:27.359 lot of rich people call a recession buying opportunity a 1568 01:27:27.359 --> 01:27:29.600 good buying operation. You said, but you didn't buy any 1569 01:27:29.600 --> 01:27:30.279 more properties. 1570 01:27:30.920 --> 01:27:34.520 That's for all of our then customers. Okay, Well, at 1571 01:27:34.520 --> 01:27:37.359 that time we really had under one hundred customers. 1572 01:27:37.520 --> 01:27:40.039 Okay. In other words, they were where they were in 1573 01:27:40.119 --> 01:27:43.119 the properties they were in, and they wrote it. But 1574 01:27:43.560 --> 01:27:47.359 certainly a recession is a buying opportunity. For God's sake, 1575 01:27:47.680 --> 01:27:49.239 you could have bought What are you kidding me? I 1576 01:27:49.239 --> 01:27:51.239 mean I bought. Now. I don't want to get into details, 1577 01:27:51.279 --> 01:27:55.000 but I bought a house in a recession. And that's 1578 01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:57.319 what you want. After the correction, you go buy. 1579 01:27:57.880 --> 01:28:00.680 And I'll say it very openly. We make the most 1580 01:28:00.760 --> 01:28:02.760 money in real estate when you buy. 1581 01:28:02.920 --> 01:28:05.640 Of course you do, so we gotta buy right now. 1582 01:28:05.880 --> 01:28:09.159 In a recession, we were doing every case when you buy, 1583 01:28:09.399 --> 01:28:12.199 every case, it's when you buy. We were doing the data, Tom, 1584 01:28:12.239 --> 01:28:15.039 and it would say, okay, is the price in the 1585 01:28:15.079 --> 01:28:18.239 next six months, is the price of those properties going 1586 01:28:18.319 --> 01:28:22.680 to be down by five, ten, fifteen or twenty percent? Well, then, 1587 01:28:22.800 --> 01:28:25.479 and then people would make up their mind and they'd say, 1588 01:28:25.520 --> 01:28:28.439 when's the right time to buy? And that stage, with 1589 01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:31.640 that data, we'd say, we don't know, but it's going 1590 01:28:31.720 --> 01:28:34.560 to be lower. So how low is it going to go? 1591 01:28:34.920 --> 01:28:38.600 And that recession proved to be very low. And then 1592 01:28:38.800 --> 01:28:41.000 we did reach a point where people said, but we 1593 01:28:41.039 --> 01:28:43.600 don't know how low it's going to go, let's wait 1594 01:28:43.640 --> 01:28:46.800 a little while, and they did wait until about twenty ten, 1595 01:28:47.239 --> 01:28:49.520 still picked up great deals. 1596 01:28:49.680 --> 01:28:55.640 Then gotcha. I'm Tom Martine. We love talking about real estate. 1597 01:28:55.680 --> 01:28:57.680 That's one of the great things. But seriously, I want 1598 01:28:57.680 --> 01:28:59.119 you to put them to the test and ask them 1599 01:28:59.119 --> 01:29:01.479 any question you want then, and don't forget this weekend, 1600 01:29:02.119 --> 01:29:04.880 He'll be at in the DTC. Have you picked a 1601 01:29:04.960 --> 01:29:06.000 location and you're waiting. 1602 01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:08.920 We have two locations. 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Pay too much 1623 01:30:15.439 --> 01:30:18.399 your coverage at dozens of insurance companies find out now 1624 01:30:18.479 --> 01:30:20.760 three all three seven to seven to one help. You'll 1625 01:30:20.760 --> 01:30:23.520 think you're his only customer when you choose Frank durand 1626 01:30:23.520 --> 01:30:25.960 the real estate man dot Com to list your home 1627 01:30:26.159 --> 01:30:29.319 with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen 1628 01:30:29.399 --> 01:30:37.479 twenty two by Tom Martino, your troubleshooter. We have a 1629 01:30:37.520 --> 01:30:42.479 question from Tony for a Barry. So I'm gonna go 1630 01:30:42.560 --> 01:30:44.439 to Tony. Hey, Tony, what's happening. 1631 01:30:46.439 --> 01:30:50.000 Yeah, I haven't heard this. I'm gonna assume the minimum 1632 01:30:50.039 --> 01:30:56.680 buying is based on whatever piece of property has a 1633 01:30:56.720 --> 01:30:59.239 price range within. 1634 01:30:59.000 --> 01:31:04.680 Your budget, Okay, Barry. In other words, how do you 1635 01:31:04.960 --> 01:31:08.640 are you asking how you select? How he selects or 1636 01:31:08.680 --> 01:31:10.079 you would select the property? 1637 01:31:10.119 --> 01:31:14.000 Tony, No, I'm asking how much does it cost? 1638 01:31:14.119 --> 01:31:14.560 Get in? 1639 01:31:14.960 --> 01:31:17.119 Okay? Yeah, we went over that. Let's do it again 1640 01:31:17.439 --> 01:31:21.239 and stay on the line. So, Barry, if I come 1641 01:31:21.279 --> 01:31:25.840 to you, how much I mean? It depends on the property. 1642 01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:28.159 He says, it's about how much times that it. 1643 01:31:28.199 --> 01:31:30.399 Depends on the property. But we're not going for the 1644 01:31:30.479 --> 01:31:33.920 high properties, okay, because the highest return with the safe, 1645 01:31:34.279 --> 01:31:40.560 highest return and safety, the highest safety are properties always 1646 01:31:40.720 --> 01:31:43.800 anywhere in the country right now under four hundred and 1647 01:31:43.840 --> 01:31:45.119 fifty thousand dollars. 1648 01:31:45.279 --> 01:31:48.439 Okay, So the most would be four fifty the most 1649 01:31:48.560 --> 01:31:51.199 would be which is twenty five percent down on four 1650 01:31:51.199 --> 01:31:51.600 to fifty. 1651 01:31:51.760 --> 01:31:55.560 Yeah, but frequently it's two fifty to three p fifty. 1652 01:31:55.960 --> 01:31:59.840 So typically it's fifty five to eighty thousand dollars. 1653 01:32:00.479 --> 01:32:03.880 So depending on when you leverage it, it's going to 1654 01:32:03.880 --> 01:32:07.000 be fifty five to eighty grand down. So that would 1655 01:32:07.039 --> 01:32:09.920 get you one property. Is that what you're asking, Tony? 1656 01:32:12.119 --> 01:32:16.479 That's perfect. Yes, it sounds very interesting. I'll be in touch. 1657 01:32:17.560 --> 01:32:21.560 And Tom, you brought up recession before, Yes, recession. 1658 01:32:21.079 --> 01:32:23.520 We have the data in advance. 1659 01:32:23.760 --> 01:32:27.000 We're not going to have eight hundred thousand dollars properties. 1660 01:32:27.279 --> 01:32:30.079 We have the properties where over half the people in 1661 01:32:30.159 --> 01:32:34.800 America can afford to buy them, So before recessions come, 1662 01:32:35.159 --> 01:32:39.319 we have properties that will sell not just to other investors, 1663 01:32:39.359 --> 01:32:44.840 but to home occupants, primary residences. Therefore, we have the 1664 01:32:44.880 --> 01:32:48.640 safest properties anywhere in the country. 1665 01:32:48.720 --> 01:32:52.119 So, yeah, Tony, if you've ever wanted to be in 1666 01:32:52.119 --> 01:32:55.239 real estate, you see, this is the kind of real 1667 01:32:55.359 --> 01:32:57.800 estate if you're going to get in to get into 1668 01:32:58.359 --> 01:33:03.359 because it's your you don't live or die by a 1669 01:33:03.399 --> 01:33:07.359 bunch of partners. And then you have a management company 1670 01:33:07.399 --> 01:33:09.720 and a backup management company and a backup to the 1671 01:33:09.720 --> 01:33:12.720 backup management company, so he and then you have the 1672 01:33:12.800 --> 01:33:17.079 expertise of Barry Miller and his team. 1673 01:33:17.479 --> 01:33:19.840 It's not just Barry. He's got experts that work with. 1674 01:33:19.840 --> 01:33:22.199 Him that can take over at any time. So if 1675 01:33:22.199 --> 01:33:24.560 he wants to take a few days off, you got somebody. 1676 01:33:24.960 --> 01:33:29.520 And the other thing is the timing. They're always watching 1677 01:33:29.560 --> 01:33:33.319 that market. And that's the one thing I think where 1678 01:33:33.359 --> 01:33:35.760 people get into trouble. They get a rental, then what 1679 01:33:36.039 --> 01:33:38.760 they don't know what to do, and they end up 1680 01:33:38.920 --> 01:33:42.159 it's end up sometimes being a full time job. You 1681 01:33:42.199 --> 01:33:44.359 get calls in the middle of the night sometimes and 1682 01:33:44.399 --> 01:33:48.039 all of that. And remember these are markets that are 1683 01:33:48.279 --> 01:33:52.479 up and coming growing. You get in right, but the 1684 01:33:52.680 --> 01:33:57.680 management companies take care of it all. You virtually do 1685 01:33:57.840 --> 01:34:04.520 not interact with anyone except Barry and the manager team members. 1686 01:34:04.600 --> 01:34:06.199 Well, yeah, yeah, you're right. 1687 01:34:07.439 --> 01:34:12.720 So I think it's fascinating and I mean, just a 1688 01:34:12.800 --> 01:34:15.159 quick backstore. I don't like a lot of detail on this, 1689 01:34:15.239 --> 01:34:17.960 But what gave you this idea? Did you just think 1690 01:34:18.239 --> 01:34:20.239 there's got to be an easier way to own rentals. 1691 01:34:20.880 --> 01:34:25.479 It's a very very quick story. I like quick too, 1692 01:34:25.840 --> 01:34:29.279 So I'm home in my hometown Wilkesbarre, Pennsylvania, proud of 1693 01:34:29.319 --> 01:34:32.359 a poor area. I'm there visiting with some of my 1694 01:34:32.439 --> 01:34:33.119 best friends. 1695 01:34:33.159 --> 01:34:37.680 Willberry sucks, man, I'm sorry it used to suck. 1696 01:34:38.359 --> 01:34:39.600 No, no, it still sucks. 1697 01:34:39.640 --> 01:34:39.920 Okay. 1698 01:34:41.399 --> 01:34:44.159 Deprived there, oh, god, deprived. 1699 01:34:44.159 --> 01:34:50.880 Not geographically, it's pretty yeah, low end. Everybody's poor there. 1700 01:34:50.920 --> 01:34:54.319 But anyhow, I was visiting some friends, their son and 1701 01:34:54.359 --> 01:34:58.119 his insurance company partners. We're having dinner, and they said, Barry, 1702 01:34:58.119 --> 01:35:00.760 you're in real estate. You know something things about buyer 1703 01:35:00.800 --> 01:35:03.800 broker and blah blah blah. You did some things nationally. 1704 01:35:04.119 --> 01:35:07.520 We have a whole bunch of our insurance customers who 1705 01:35:07.520 --> 01:35:10.560 have all this extra money. They want to buy properties 1706 01:35:10.560 --> 01:35:15.119 somewhere in the United States. Are you equipped to find 1707 01:35:15.119 --> 01:35:18.399 out where the best properties would be? And that is 1708 01:35:18.479 --> 01:35:21.840 the genesis of the idea. I come back to Denver. 1709 01:35:21.960 --> 01:35:25.359 I said, wait a minute, national, I am. I put 1710 01:35:25.359 --> 01:35:29.880 buyer Brokering together. I have national networks, so why don't 1711 01:35:29.880 --> 01:35:33.279 I see what's into this? And I put the company 1712 01:35:33.319 --> 01:35:36.479 together in six to nine months of research. After that 1713 01:35:36.880 --> 01:35:41.760 two thousand and three, to be precise. Really, yeah, two guys, 1714 01:35:41.760 --> 01:35:43.760 I mean that they gave me the idea. They said 1715 01:35:43.760 --> 01:35:48.119 they have these investors from their insurance customers. 1716 01:35:48.159 --> 01:35:51.000 What I like worked, What I like more than anything 1717 01:35:51.079 --> 01:35:55.079 is that you're not marking up each and every service. 1718 01:35:56.000 --> 01:35:58.680 No, no, the interesting thing, and I thank you for. 1719 01:35:58.800 --> 01:36:00.640 Catching it a spread on. 1720 01:36:01.119 --> 01:36:05.479 But but we look for the lowest end of everything quality. 1721 01:36:05.920 --> 01:36:09.600 But we shop for insurance brokers. I mean we find 1722 01:36:09.680 --> 01:36:14.279 them that saves two hundred, four hundred, eight hundred dollars 1723 01:36:14.319 --> 01:36:17.880 a year per property. We're always looking for what is 1724 01:36:18.039 --> 01:36:22.399 best for the customer. That comes from my buyer broker heritage. Okay, 1725 01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:25.680 what's best for the customer. And it's working, and we 1726 01:36:26.399 --> 01:36:30.000 do find the customer doesn't have to pay us extra fees. 1727 01:36:31.359 --> 01:36:34.680 But and you're actively researching all of that based on 1728 01:36:34.760 --> 01:36:37.560 all the relationship and original commission. That's it. 1729 01:36:37.880 --> 01:36:38.359 That's it. 1730 01:36:38.479 --> 01:36:40.960 No added charges, no hou okay. 1731 01:36:40.680 --> 01:36:44.199 Okay, there's one okay, one two hundred and fifty dollars 1732 01:36:44.239 --> 01:36:49.119 a year per property. Optional. We will oversee the manager. 1733 01:36:49.479 --> 01:36:52.520 You give the property manager permission to call us at 1734 01:36:52.560 --> 01:36:55.600 midnight if there's a problem with the property, and we'll 1735 01:36:55.640 --> 01:36:59.199 send you a few extra economic reports on your property. 1736 01:36:59.199 --> 01:37:05.039 Okay, So you could even forego dealing even with the manager. 1737 01:37:05.239 --> 01:37:07.560 Up to five hundred dollars per month if it's a 1738 01:37:07.600 --> 01:37:10.399 five hundred dollars issue. If it's higher than five hundred, 1739 01:37:10.640 --> 01:37:13.960 we want the owner to know about it. Otherwise we'll 1740 01:37:13.960 --> 01:37:14.239 take you. 1741 01:37:14.399 --> 01:37:17.800 For two hundred and fifty a year. A year, you 1742 01:37:17.880 --> 01:37:20.960 will deal with the manager and then if it's over 1743 01:37:21.039 --> 01:37:24.239 five hundred dollars in an in an obligation. 1744 01:37:23.760 --> 01:37:25.560 We cannot say yes or no. 1745 01:37:26.079 --> 01:37:28.960 Oh man, this is really you really gave this a lot. 1746 01:37:28.920 --> 01:37:30.920 Of oh yeah, a lot of thun. 1747 01:37:31.560 --> 01:37:34.640 And and so, and you have a longevity plan and 1748 01:37:34.680 --> 01:37:35.560 a succession plan. 1749 01:37:35.640 --> 01:37:38.000 We have a succession plan. We have people coming in 1750 01:37:38.119 --> 01:37:41.079 all younger than I am, et cetera. And I've had 1751 01:37:41.119 --> 01:37:45.039 to do that because yes, smart. 1752 01:37:44.399 --> 01:37:49.600 And so and and what about the investor who is investing? 1753 01:37:49.640 --> 01:37:51.520 I mean really, who is? Do you have any younger 1754 01:37:51.520 --> 01:37:52.359 people investing? 1755 01:37:52.920 --> 01:37:56.159 Yes, we are starting on the younger side. It is happening. 1756 01:37:56.199 --> 01:38:00.560 But it didn't happen initially, okay, but through social media 1757 01:38:00.600 --> 01:38:04.079 activities we're getting the word out. And by the way, 1758 01:38:04.359 --> 01:38:07.439 the biggest group of younger people we have right now 1759 01:38:07.760 --> 01:38:12.920 children of our customers. They're in their twenties and thirties, 1760 01:38:12.960 --> 01:38:15.039 and mom and dad are saying, hey, we're doing this 1761 01:38:15.079 --> 01:38:17.560 and the kids saying, you're doing really. 1762 01:38:17.279 --> 01:38:19.159 Well, how do we get in? 1763 01:38:19.279 --> 01:38:21.960 And they're helping their children come in and we help 1764 01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:25.119 them with typically with their four oh one cases where 1765 01:38:25.119 --> 01:38:28.079 they're getting most of their cash for their down payment, 1766 01:38:28.199 --> 01:38:29.439 not from mom and dad. 1767 01:38:29.720 --> 01:38:31.479 By the way, if you have any questions, you can 1768 01:38:31.520 --> 01:38:33.439 give us a call, or you can text me. 1769 01:38:33.560 --> 01:38:34.920 Remember my text number. 1770 01:38:35.239 --> 01:38:38.479 I have the the iHeart short code. 1771 01:38:38.239 --> 01:38:40.039 Five seven seven thret nine. 1772 01:38:40.239 --> 01:38:43.600 Or you can go directly to my personal Google which 1773 01:38:43.640 --> 01:38:46.199 is forwarded to my cell phone for texting seven four 1774 01:38:46.319 --> 01:38:51.479 seven nine nine nine fifty two eighty. 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Dennis? 1794 01:40:11.439 --> 01:40:11.680 Sure? 1795 01:40:11.720 --> 01:40:13.239 I had a question for Barry. 1796 01:40:13.600 --> 01:40:18.239 Are you allowed to use funds form a heelock as 1797 01:40:18.239 --> 01:40:21.000 a down payment? 1798 01:40:21.159 --> 01:40:23.720 Yes, and it's so good many of our customers have 1799 01:40:23.840 --> 01:40:24.159 done that. 1800 01:40:24.279 --> 01:40:28.479 Dennis, Okay, all right, great, thank you very much. 1801 01:40:28.760 --> 01:40:32.359 Yeah. Now, he locks, by the way, by their nature, 1802 01:40:32.600 --> 01:40:36.359 is secured by another property and this double secure, said. 1803 01:40:36.279 --> 01:40:37.079 I mean for the bank. 1804 01:40:37.159 --> 01:40:40.119 I mean the bank doesn't care, but yeah, he locks 1805 01:40:40.199 --> 01:40:43.680 can be used. In fact, a lot of cash sources 1806 01:40:43.720 --> 01:40:46.359 you might have. There is a legal way to do 1807 01:40:46.399 --> 01:40:50.479 it through retirement. You got to consult your people and 1808 01:40:51.760 --> 01:40:54.399 we're coming up with all kinds of interesting things. I say, well, 1809 01:40:55.039 --> 01:40:57.319 when I heard about this plan, I thought, you know, Barry, 1810 01:40:58.000 --> 01:40:58.760 I got to get. 1811 01:40:58.600 --> 01:40:59.079 In on this. 1812 01:40:59.239 --> 01:41:04.399 And and I I'm thinking of to own more property 1813 01:41:04.960 --> 01:41:07.119 and I'm not going to give details, but to own 1814 01:41:07.159 --> 01:41:11.479 way more property with this program and to require smaller 1815 01:41:11.520 --> 01:41:15.880 investments might be where people pull money and and that 1816 01:41:15.960 --> 01:41:18.640 might be something interesting to get involved in the future. 1817 01:41:18.680 --> 01:41:20.359 But that's for the future. 1818 01:41:20.880 --> 01:41:24.199 The word fractional is and it don't be fractional, you 1819 01:41:24.319 --> 01:41:26.840 realize that, but fractional is another way. 1820 01:41:27.279 --> 01:41:28.720 Oh oh yeah, people, you. 1821 01:41:28.680 --> 01:41:30.439 And a friend can go in there, right, you can 1822 01:41:30.479 --> 01:41:32.359 do that on your own. You're absolutely right, you you 1823 01:41:32.399 --> 01:41:33.880 and a friend, or you have to do it. 1824 01:41:33.800 --> 01:41:34.279 On their own. 1825 01:41:34.359 --> 01:41:35.439 Yeah, of course, yeah. 1826 01:41:35.520 --> 01:41:38.079 Yeah. So uh, let's talk to Catherine. 1827 01:41:38.159 --> 01:41:39.279 Catherine, what's happening. 1828 01:41:40.680 --> 01:41:43.279 But I've been in contact with it with steputy Go 1829 01:41:43.720 --> 01:41:45.279 and there. 1830 01:41:46.439 --> 01:41:48.199 Yes, I am here Tom still. 1831 01:41:48.039 --> 01:41:50.520 Bri When was Catherine? What was this about? 1832 01:41:50.800 --> 01:41:52.279 Called last Friday? 1833 01:41:52.399 --> 01:41:56.600 Oh yeah, is it bout this movie? This moving company sucks? 1834 01:41:58.079 --> 01:41:59.640 I hope you have some good news. 1835 01:41:59.399 --> 01:42:03.359 No Bo, Unfortunately, thanks for calling in, Katherine. 1836 01:42:03.479 --> 01:42:07.880 I do not I called the tip Top Moving Company 1837 01:42:07.880 --> 01:42:08.680 four times. 1838 01:42:09.199 --> 01:42:11.239 I talked, tried to reach out to. 1839 01:42:11.119 --> 01:42:15.720 The manager you've been dealinglyan with Brandon Johnson. I even 1840 01:42:16.239 --> 01:42:17.960 kind of fibbed a little bit and say it and 1841 01:42:18.000 --> 01:42:20.000 said I was someone else, just to get him to 1842 01:42:20.279 --> 01:42:22.520 respond to me, Catherine. 1843 01:42:22.560 --> 01:42:23.880 He just will not respond. 1844 01:42:23.920 --> 01:42:26.359 Where are they located? Is it called tip top? 1845 01:42:26.840 --> 01:42:31.920 It's called actually top tier moving Company's So, Catherine, this 1846 01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:34.239 is what I did. I sent you an email this morning. 1847 01:42:34.399 --> 01:42:37.439 I called this morning and I poised myself as a 1848 01:42:37.520 --> 01:42:41.279 customer so I could get a quote from them and 1849 01:42:41.359 --> 01:42:43.079 get their address. 1850 01:42:43.319 --> 01:42:46.039 So I got wait, wait, wait, they got four grand. 1851 01:42:47.279 --> 01:42:49.359 Well, Tom, I can't get him to call. They won't. 1852 01:42:49.520 --> 01:42:51.680 They just absolutely will not call me back. 1853 01:42:52.159 --> 01:42:55.720 And she did an ach wire transfer, and that's what 1854 01:42:55.760 --> 01:42:57.960 they wanted to do with my quote. They wanted me 1855 01:42:58.039 --> 01:43:00.880 to send the money via an acach. 1856 01:43:00.439 --> 01:43:03.359 Crop upfront before before you get a bid or. 1857 01:43:03.319 --> 01:43:06.039 What yeah, upfront, David, If you send it up front, 1858 01:43:06.079 --> 01:43:08.279 they knock off another like twenty five percent. 1859 01:43:08.479 --> 01:43:10.880 But this is before you even get your bid. 1860 01:43:10.960 --> 01:43:14.079 Before he yes, before you get the bid, and. 1861 01:43:14.159 --> 01:43:16.359 They want money up front before you get a bid. 1862 01:43:16.560 --> 01:43:17.680 They gave him a propect. 1863 01:43:17.880 --> 01:43:20.159 Listen, I want people to start calling him the hell 1864 01:43:20.199 --> 01:43:20.560 with this. 1865 01:43:20.560 --> 01:43:21.000 It's right. 1866 01:43:21.079 --> 01:43:23.439 I have a phone number I want our listeners to 1867 01:43:23.600 --> 01:43:29.039 call as a scam from the from the get. I mean, 1868 01:43:29.079 --> 01:43:31.000 this is just a dirty scam what they did to 1869 01:43:31.079 --> 01:43:31.600 this lady. 1870 01:43:31.720 --> 01:43:33.159 Are they located in Florida? 1871 01:43:33.199 --> 01:43:37.720 Of course they're located in I got the address Lake Worth, Florida, 1872 01:43:37.920 --> 01:43:38.520 of course there. 1873 01:43:39.479 --> 01:43:42.479 I just can't believe how many bad movers are in Florida. 1874 01:43:42.479 --> 01:43:43.399 What's their phone number? 1875 01:43:45.000 --> 01:43:47.159 Phone number is. 1876 01:43:48.119 --> 01:43:51.319 The manager's direct number that Catherine's been working with. 1877 01:43:51.399 --> 01:43:55.439 His name is Brandon. It's very code five six '. 1878 01:43:55.399 --> 01:44:03.279 One four five zero five one zero, and then the 1879 01:44:03.359 --> 01:44:04.479 corporate number two. 1880 01:44:04.720 --> 01:44:05.279 Can I do that? 1881 01:44:05.279 --> 01:44:06.279 That's the corporate number. 1882 01:44:06.319 --> 01:44:10.680 Corporate number is eight eight eight six eight three three 1883 01:44:10.920 --> 01:44:11.920 nine six three. 1884 01:44:13.159 --> 01:44:16.199 Top tier moving companies. Stay away from them. 1885 01:44:16.800 --> 01:44:18.119 Yeah, we're gonna talk about them. 1886 01:44:18.319 --> 01:44:19.359 We're gonna talk about them. 1887 01:44:19.399 --> 01:44:22.039 Coming up. We'll also have more about this weekend ten 1888 01:44:22.119 --> 01:44:23.520 in the morning. If you want to sign up for 1889 01:44:23.560 --> 01:44:28.319 the seminar, it's my biggest return dot com. We have 1890 01:44:28.399 --> 01:44:32.399 more coming up on the Troubleshooter show. Go with a 1891 01:44:32.479 --> 01:44:36.000 sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing dot com. You 1892 01:44:36.039 --> 01:44:41.800 don't pay a cent until you're content. Time for an 1893 01:44:41.840 --> 01:44:46.079 insurance check up free no obligation comparison call Compass Insurance 1894 01:44:46.199 --> 01:44:49.239 paying too much your coverage at dozens of insurance companies 1895 01:44:49.319 --> 01:44:51.920 find out now three oh three seven seven to one help. 1896 01:44:52.079 --> 01:44:54.720 You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank 1897 01:44:54.800 --> 01:44:57.239 durand the real estate Man dot com to list your 1898 01:44:57.279 --> 01:45:00.920 home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine zero sixteen 1899 01:45:00.960 --> 01:45:12.279 twenty two. Yeah, Ripped News need advice, so you don't have. 1900 01:45:14.439 --> 01:45:17.680 Come running as fast as we can. 1901 01:45:18.119 --> 01:45:20.319 Shooter's gonna help coming. 1902 01:45:20.680 --> 01:45:27.720 Man Dix is the Troubleshooter Show. Now, Tom Martino, Hi. 1903 01:45:27.720 --> 01:45:30.479 Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show. Three oh three 1904 01:45:30.600 --> 01:45:33.039 seven one three talk seven one three eight two five 1905 01:45:33.239 --> 01:45:37.359 five Wow. A lot to talk about. I want to 1906 01:45:37.399 --> 01:45:39.680 first go to war as we call it, with a 1907 01:45:39.720 --> 01:45:42.560 company called Top Tier Moving. Then I want to talk 1908 01:45:42.600 --> 01:45:46.760 about this upcoming seminar this weekend with Barry Millery. You 1909 01:45:46.800 --> 01:45:50.119 can find out all about Vesta Vestera Turnkey. 1910 01:45:50.239 --> 01:45:51.520 My biggest return. 1911 01:45:51.239 --> 01:45:53.159 Dot com is that website to sign up for this 1912 01:45:53.199 --> 01:45:55.600 weekend ten in the morning, and then I want to talk. 1913 01:45:55.680 --> 01:45:58.840 I want to give you an update on FedEx. It's 1914 01:45:58.880 --> 01:46:03.119 the Oh my god, It's the most unbelievable thing. Okay, Catherine, 1915 01:46:03.199 --> 01:46:08.479 you first, Catherine, this company truly stole your money, basically. 1916 01:46:10.119 --> 01:46:13.720 And when Bo called, posing as a customer top Tier Moving, 1917 01:46:15.399 --> 01:46:17.960 they said, before they can now this is a new 1918 01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:21.840 twist on a scan, they said, before they can even 1919 01:46:22.119 --> 01:46:24.960 give you an estimate, you have to make a deposit. 1920 01:46:26.920 --> 01:46:30.000 And what happens if you don't like the estimate. Both 1921 01:46:30.119 --> 01:46:33.359 Katherine and Bo were told, well, that's okay, Well you 1922 01:46:33.359 --> 01:46:36.079 can get your money back. So Katherine made a four 1923 01:46:36.119 --> 01:46:39.720 thousand dollars deposit and she didn't get her money back. 1924 01:46:41.239 --> 01:46:43.640 And I got it in writing from him in an 1925 01:46:43.640 --> 01:46:47.079 email that I would have a full, full refund and 1926 01:46:47.119 --> 01:46:49.079 I paid extra to get that in writing. 1927 01:46:49.800 --> 01:46:52.840 Now, Bo, did you see if Top Tier has a 1928 01:46:53.159 --> 01:46:55.119 has a registered agent here in Colorado? 1929 01:46:56.479 --> 01:46:59.520 No, Tom, I have not. I can check that this afternoon. 1930 01:46:59.800 --> 01:47:02.560 But I thought Catherine can at least call the district 1931 01:47:02.600 --> 01:47:07.520 attorney in Palm Beach, Florida County to alert them to this. 1932 01:47:08.039 --> 01:47:09.840 It's not gonna help her get her money back, but 1933 01:47:10.640 --> 01:47:14.359 you know, the district attorney in Florida needs to be 1934 01:47:14.399 --> 01:47:16.640 aware of this business practice. 1935 01:47:17.720 --> 01:47:20.800 Well, of course, of course, but Florida is doing very little. 1936 01:47:20.800 --> 01:47:22.560 They have so many ripoffs. 1937 01:47:23.079 --> 01:47:26.159 I'm going to search this database to see if they 1938 01:47:26.199 --> 01:47:29.079 haven't a Colorado person that she can take to court. 1939 01:47:29.560 --> 01:47:31.800 The four grand is under the seventy five. 1940 01:47:31.720 --> 01:47:35.520 Hundred, Catherine, how did you? 1941 01:47:35.600 --> 01:47:36.399 And no results? 1942 01:47:36.560 --> 01:47:39.439 They're not here, no results in a. 1943 01:47:39.479 --> 01:47:42.600 Hotel right now and all my stuff. 1944 01:47:42.319 --> 01:47:44.439 Is in pod the odea. 1945 01:47:45.600 --> 01:47:47.479 Yeah, that's that's not a bad system. 1946 01:47:47.800 --> 01:47:50.479 By the way, let's give out some numbers people. We 1947 01:47:50.600 --> 01:47:53.520 really need your help. We do make we do get results. 1948 01:47:53.600 --> 01:47:56.319 We need them that We need our listeners to call 1949 01:47:57.199 --> 01:48:01.119 Top Tier Moving company Brandon John and I'd like everyone 1950 01:48:01.159 --> 01:48:04.000 to just give a call and maybe you'll get so 1951 01:48:04.159 --> 01:48:09.119 inundated with calls they may relinquish this money to Catherine. 1952 01:48:09.199 --> 01:48:10.760 So can I give out the number again? 1953 01:48:11.039 --> 01:48:14.000 Yeah, I'm going to do that right now. So top Tier, 1954 01:48:14.039 --> 01:48:18.239 there's three numbers we found. Top Tier Moving took four 1955 01:48:18.319 --> 01:48:22.199 grand and did nothing. Their mode of operandi, their motives 1956 01:48:22.239 --> 01:48:26.399 operendi is where they take money up front before they 1957 01:48:26.399 --> 01:48:28.039 even give you an estimate, and then they keep the 1958 01:48:28.039 --> 01:48:32.119 money they belong on the sleeves. Brigade Top Tier Moving 1959 01:48:32.239 --> 01:48:37.960 and here's the deal. The numbers. I want you to 1960 01:48:38.199 --> 01:48:40.279 look at. Let me just make sure I have them. Okay, 1961 01:48:40.920 --> 01:48:44.039 First of all, there's a manager. When you call, please 1962 01:48:44.119 --> 01:48:46.319 be courteous, but tell them on no certain terms. You're 1963 01:48:46.359 --> 01:48:48.640 going to spread it around on the internet. And then, 1964 01:48:48.680 --> 01:48:51.119 of course make as many reviews as you can based 1965 01:48:51.119 --> 01:48:53.520 on what you heard. Don't lie of it in the reviews. 1966 01:48:53.520 --> 01:48:55.359 Tell them you heard about them, and you need to 1967 01:48:55.399 --> 01:48:57.720 pass it on. They allow you to do that in 1968 01:48:57.760 --> 01:49:03.760 a review. So here's the man five six one four 1969 01:49:03.880 --> 01:49:10.760 five zero fifty one forty five six one four five 1970 01:49:11.319 --> 01:49:16.279 zero fifty one forty. Let me know when you call 1971 01:49:16.359 --> 01:49:19.079 on what they say? What is his name? The manager, 1972 01:49:20.119 --> 01:49:23.960 Brandon Johnson. Is that the number Brandon's number? Right? 1973 01:49:24.079 --> 01:49:27.119 Yes, that's his direct number, Tom Brandon. 1974 01:49:27.560 --> 01:49:30.199 Okay, Now Brandon is the one she talked to. 1975 01:49:31.319 --> 01:49:34.920 Yes, she'say, he's He's the person to Catherin's been. 1976 01:49:35.000 --> 01:49:36.640 I want to give that one more time. Five six 1977 01:49:36.800 --> 01:49:39.640 one four five zero fifty one forty. Then we have 1978 01:49:39.680 --> 01:49:43.720 a corporate office. Two corporate numbers. One's actually listed with 1979 01:49:43.800 --> 01:49:49.760 the dot and that number is five six one three 1980 01:49:50.399 --> 01:49:57.680 four five zero five three one five six one three 1981 01:49:57.800 --> 01:50:04.319 four five zero five three one. Now we have what 1982 01:50:04.399 --> 01:50:09.439 I call a marketing number. Okay, and that is eight 1983 01:50:09.479 --> 01:50:16.560 eight eight eight six three thirty nine sixty three. 1984 01:50:16.800 --> 01:50:17.840 It's six eighty three. 1985 01:50:17.960 --> 01:50:19.800 Tom okay, hold on, let me do it again. Let 1986 01:50:19.840 --> 01:50:23.920 me do it again then, And that one is I'm 1987 01:50:23.960 --> 01:50:27.720 going to put it down here. I'm sorry, Okay, tell 1988 01:50:27.760 --> 01:50:30.159 me where I went wrong on that one, please go ahead. 1989 01:50:30.479 --> 01:50:35.720 Eight eight eight six eight three yeah, three nine six three. 1990 01:50:35.800 --> 01:50:37.079 Yes, exactly what I have here. 1991 01:50:37.119 --> 01:50:38.000 Maybe I didn't say it right. 1992 01:50:38.039 --> 01:50:41.920 I'm sorry eight eight eight six eight three. Customer service now, 1993 01:50:42.119 --> 01:50:49.119 that's customer service. Okay, customer yeah, okay. And and uh, 1994 01:50:49.359 --> 01:50:52.399 please people call and keep calling and let them know 1995 01:50:52.880 --> 01:50:55.239 we need to get money back. We cannot allow the 1996 01:50:55.640 --> 01:51:00.399 row people and steal from people. Please please please, Top 1997 01:51:00.479 --> 01:51:06.680 tier Brandon is five six one four five zero fifty 1998 01:51:06.720 --> 01:51:12.760 one forty corporate five six one three four five zero 1999 01:51:12.920 --> 01:51:22.720 five three one and customer service eight eight eight six 2000 01:51:22.920 --> 01:51:32.800 eight three thirty nine sixty three. Oh man, that. 2001 01:51:32.800 --> 01:51:36.720 Is four thousand and ninety eight dollary. 2002 01:51:38.159 --> 01:51:40.359 Yep, we got you, Catherine. 2003 01:51:40.439 --> 01:51:40.800 Let us know. 2004 01:51:40.840 --> 01:51:43.680 If you hear anything people, please call, let us know 2005 01:51:44.079 --> 01:51:47.880 what they say. I think this is a valuable service 2006 01:51:47.920 --> 01:51:50.640 we provide. Let me explain this. I did it once before. 2007 01:51:52.079 --> 01:51:55.119 It's a valuable service because do you know how much 2008 01:51:55.159 --> 01:51:59.439 people spend trying to get consumers to do reviews. Think 2009 01:51:59.439 --> 01:52:04.000 about getting a live review on the phone. They call 2010 01:52:04.039 --> 01:52:05.479 you and let you know what they think of you. 2011 01:52:06.279 --> 01:52:08.640 I think it's invaluable, and we're doing it free of 2012 01:52:08.720 --> 01:52:11.880 charge for the company. So I'm not asking you to harass, 2013 01:52:11.920 --> 01:52:14.000 but I'm asking you to call and let them know 2014 01:52:14.079 --> 01:52:17.600 you heard about the problem and you find it unconscionable. 2015 01:52:18.079 --> 01:52:19.359 You can use that word if you like. 2016 01:52:20.199 --> 01:52:24.680 Unconscionable that they would take money, require money upfront for 2017 01:52:24.880 --> 01:52:29.079 just an estimate, and then not return that money for 2018 01:52:29.199 --> 01:52:29.960 doing nothing. 2019 01:52:31.479 --> 01:52:33.279 Now, I'm going to give the numbers one more time. 2020 01:52:33.319 --> 01:52:36.119 Five to sixty one four five zero. 2021 01:52:36.079 --> 01:52:37.039 Fifty one forty. 2022 01:52:38.000 --> 01:52:40.600 That's the brand, brand and the manager. Then we have 2023 01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:45.760 the corporate five six one three four five zero five 2024 01:52:45.800 --> 01:52:48.920 three one and customer service eight eight eight six ' 2025 01:52:48.960 --> 01:52:50.720 eight three thirty nine sixty three. 2026 01:52:51.119 --> 01:52:52.760 Let me know what happens, okay. 2027 01:52:53.000 --> 01:52:56.640 All right, So we talked about vesteria, and I'm going 2028 01:52:56.680 --> 01:52:58.920 to go back to that real quick, and I'll take 2029 01:52:58.960 --> 01:53:01.399 any and all of your call and questions. I do 2030 01:53:01.520 --> 01:53:03.319 have some texts I want to get to on it, 2031 01:53:04.119 --> 01:53:10.199 and let's go to that text. Okay, do these properties 2032 01:53:10.239 --> 01:53:11.119 ever say vacant? 2033 01:53:11.239 --> 01:53:11.880 What happens? 2034 01:53:11.880 --> 01:53:14.680 Did they do? Am I responsible for those months where 2035 01:53:14.720 --> 01:53:15.640 they said vacant? 2036 01:53:16.680 --> 01:53:21.359 Yes, you would be responsible. However, in the last five years, 2037 01:53:21.720 --> 01:53:26.720 we've only had two go beyond a five to six 2038 01:53:26.800 --> 01:53:31.039 week period of vacancy. Only two, only two out of 2039 01:53:31.119 --> 01:53:37.000 over one hundred My goodness. Because these are carefully chosen properties, 2040 01:53:37.000 --> 01:53:41.840 they're not random. We talk to the property managers ahead 2041 01:53:41.840 --> 01:53:45.479 of time. We go to you know, well, we know 2042 01:53:45.600 --> 01:53:49.279 that as a high interest level, we know that we 2043 01:53:49.439 --> 01:53:54.319 have two rental pools of people who want that area, 2044 01:53:54.520 --> 01:53:58.600 at least two rental pools at least two who are 2045 01:53:58.640 --> 01:54:03.560 going to want that area. 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He 2077 01:55:58.279 --> 01:56:01.800 found out they had a previous company the same exact principles. 2078 01:56:01.800 --> 01:56:02.640 What was the name of it. 2079 01:56:03.239 --> 01:56:07.600 That company was called Vanguard Moving Service as an LLC 2080 01:56:08.880 --> 01:56:12.840 and on the Business Better Business Bureau, I see that 2081 01:56:12.880 --> 01:56:19.840 there dot license to move household goods was involuntarily revoked 2082 01:56:20.279 --> 01:56:21.640 in August of twenty two. 2083 01:56:22.920 --> 01:56:26.000 Furthermore, think about that. So they're basically put out of 2084 01:56:26.039 --> 01:56:27.800 business by the government. 2085 01:56:28.199 --> 01:56:29.399 And they just rebranded. 2086 01:56:30.399 --> 01:56:34.800 Yeah, okay, and wait, I just found another hold on 2087 01:56:34.960 --> 01:56:37.680 top tier. No, okay, keep going. 2088 01:56:38.920 --> 01:56:42.439 According to the BBB, they had seventy nine complaints in 2089 01:56:42.479 --> 01:56:45.279 the last three years of operation, with forty one of 2090 01:56:45.319 --> 01:56:46.840 them being in the last twelve months. 2091 01:56:48.359 --> 01:56:51.239 Okay, unimpressive track record. 2092 01:56:51.560 --> 01:56:53.000 This is unbelievable. 2093 01:56:53.640 --> 01:56:55.319 You're emailing me that I'm going to put them on 2094 01:56:55.319 --> 01:56:59.279 the sleeves brigade. So these people are on the road 2095 01:56:59.359 --> 01:57:02.840 again to ripping people off. Let me give the numbers. 2096 01:57:03.560 --> 01:57:10.079 You got the manager Brandon scumbag Brandon five six one 2097 01:57:10.159 --> 01:57:14.880 four five zero fifty one forty corporate five six one 2098 01:57:14.920 --> 01:57:18.720 three four five zero five three one and customer service 2099 01:57:18.800 --> 01:57:22.279 eight eight eight six eight three thirty nine sixty three. 2100 01:57:22.640 --> 01:57:28.239 So it looks like we found another bad company. It's unfortunate, 2101 01:57:28.279 --> 01:57:33.000 but we find companies all the time that suck. Now, 2102 01:57:33.760 --> 01:57:36.680 I uh so, get your calls in with anything. We 2103 01:57:36.720 --> 01:57:38.279 have a half hour left three oh three, seven to 2104 01:57:38.279 --> 01:57:40.359 one three talk or three h three Martino three oh 2105 01:57:40.399 --> 01:57:44.640 three six two seven eight four six six. 2106 01:57:44.720 --> 01:57:48.560 So here's what I want to tell you, Federal Express. 2107 01:57:48.640 --> 01:57:53.600 Let me explain this to you. So I found out 2108 01:57:53.640 --> 01:57:57.000 where the trouble is with Federal Express. Seriously, it's FedEx Ground, 2109 01:57:57.479 --> 01:57:59.840 FedEx Ground specifically, and I did a lot of re 2110 01:58:00.039 --> 01:58:03.560 search on this to find that out. So FedEx, you 2111 01:58:03.560 --> 01:58:06.319 know that sends envelopes and stuff. To be fair. As 2112 01:58:06.399 --> 01:58:09.640 much as I hate this company, they do a good job. Okay. 2113 01:58:09.960 --> 01:58:11.520 You know, you go to a business, you get. 2114 01:58:11.359 --> 01:58:15.520 A signature, Well you know that stuff's good. Okay. FedEx Ground, 2115 01:58:15.840 --> 01:58:18.359 which tried to compete with ups, Amazon and the rest, 2116 01:58:18.640 --> 01:58:24.000 they suck, suck, suck, suck suck more. Here's why the 2117 01:58:24.199 --> 01:58:30.159 company was restructured, and they decided to use all vendors, 2118 01:58:30.279 --> 01:58:35.600 all subcontractors for FedEx Ground. So when you hire FedEx ground. 2119 01:58:35.600 --> 01:58:38.800 You're not hiring FedEx round, You're hiring a bunch of 2120 01:58:38.960 --> 01:58:42.600 shlock amateurs, and they laid off a bunch of people 2121 01:58:42.600 --> 01:58:46.680 for that right, So what you have is FedEx trying 2122 01:58:46.720 --> 01:58:52.279 to go cheap with the subcontractors. I followed a subcontractor 2123 01:58:52.359 --> 01:58:55.760 the other day, and the reason I followed him is 2124 01:58:55.800 --> 01:58:58.439 because they kept saying they tried to deliver to me 2125 01:58:59.159 --> 01:59:01.760 when they never came to my house. I would get 2126 01:59:01.760 --> 01:59:05.319 these notices by email or text. We attempted to deliver 2127 01:59:05.439 --> 01:59:12.319 your package and you weren't home. So that's it. I 2128 01:59:12.399 --> 01:59:16.720 found out from an insider that they're paid every time 2129 01:59:16.720 --> 01:59:19.039 they stop at a house, whether someone's home or not, 2130 01:59:19.439 --> 01:59:24.560 for every stop they make. Well, guess what, they were 2131 01:59:24.640 --> 01:59:27.800 never stopping at my house. In fact, they weren't even 2132 01:59:27.920 --> 01:59:34.079 coming into the community my front gate. 2133 01:59:35.920 --> 01:59:36.680 Save your comments. 2134 01:59:36.720 --> 01:59:40.520 I live in a gated community and they never came 2135 01:59:40.560 --> 01:59:44.800 through the gate when they said I wasn't home, Nor 2136 01:59:44.880 --> 01:59:48.439 did my ring doorbell show anybody in case they snuck through. 2137 01:59:49.319 --> 01:59:54.479 Here's the bottom line. They lied, not once, not twice, 2138 01:59:55.880 --> 02:00:01.039 not three times. Before times they lied. I was waiting 2139 02:00:01.079 --> 02:00:03.920 for them, and I decided, you know what, I left 2140 02:00:03.920 --> 02:00:04.520 my daughter home. 2141 02:00:04.560 --> 02:00:06.840 I had to go get my laptop at the other house. 2142 02:00:06.880 --> 02:00:10.359 So I drive out of my gate and I see 2143 02:00:10.359 --> 02:00:16.000 a FedEx truck literally parked across the street. So I 2144 02:00:16.079 --> 02:00:19.520 sat and was watched for about forty five minutes. They 2145 02:00:19.560 --> 02:00:25.399 sat there. Then I saw the guy drive through a 2146 02:00:25.439 --> 02:00:31.239 neighborhood adjacent to mine, and he would go slowly. At 2147 02:00:31.239 --> 02:00:34.640 a house, he'd look at the front door, like take 2148 02:00:34.680 --> 02:00:38.279 a peek, and keep going. He did that about three 2149 02:00:38.359 --> 02:00:44.840 or four times, and then he took off. I got 2150 02:00:44.840 --> 02:00:48.680 a notice that I wasn't home that day. Again, he 2151 02:00:48.760 --> 02:00:51.880 never went to my house. In fact, I'll bet you 2152 02:00:51.960 --> 02:00:55.039 those other houses where he slowed down he was claiming 2153 02:00:55.840 --> 02:01:02.479 he made an attempt. So I got so pissed off. 2154 02:01:03.039 --> 02:01:07.359 I notified the ship or the seller, and I notified FedEx. 2155 02:01:07.479 --> 02:01:09.439 I want to pick it up at a FedEx store. 2156 02:01:11.279 --> 02:01:13.600 I would go to this FedEx store loaded for bear, 2157 02:01:13.720 --> 02:01:16.520 but then I realized, wait a minute, it's not even 2158 02:01:16.560 --> 02:01:19.680 the same division. They are such nice people there, And 2159 02:01:19.720 --> 02:01:22.760 I said to the guy, may I ask you something. 2160 02:01:25.159 --> 02:01:26.600 Do you ever get complaints? 2161 02:01:26.600 --> 02:01:28.760 He said yes, and I said, what are you talking about? 2162 02:01:28.800 --> 02:01:30.880 He said, you tried to get this at home, right, 2163 02:01:31.920 --> 02:01:34.039 And I said yeah, And he said and they said, 2164 02:01:34.079 --> 02:01:36.840 you weren't home right now. This is the clerk at 2165 02:01:36.840 --> 02:01:41.159 FedEx and I said, that's true, and he said happens 2166 02:01:41.199 --> 02:01:44.600 all the time. So people come here to pick up 2167 02:01:44.640 --> 02:01:48.079 the package and they're pissed off. I said, what happened 2168 02:01:48.079 --> 02:01:51.399 to FedEx? He said, nothing happened to the main FedEx. 2169 02:01:51.880 --> 02:01:56.239 But FedEx Ground are a bunch of subcontractors. We're all 2170 02:01:56.279 --> 02:02:01.079 pissed that they're giving us a bad name, so don't 2171 02:02:01.159 --> 02:02:06.720 use FedEx Ground. How about that they suck? I mean 2172 02:02:07.119 --> 02:02:10.760 they're worse. They worse than suck. If they did a 2173 02:02:10.920 --> 02:02:16.079 bad delivery, that would be sucking. But doing no delivery 2174 02:02:16.079 --> 02:02:20.359 and claiming they attempted to make a delivery, that's lying, thieving, 2175 02:02:20.600 --> 02:02:27.880 disgusting pieces of garbage. Please snip this from my video 2176 02:02:28.079 --> 02:02:34.039 and send it out. You have my permission. Please let 2177 02:02:34.079 --> 02:02:38.119 people know FedEx Ground sucks. 2178 02:02:40.720 --> 02:02:42.079 That's my story about FedEx. 2179 02:02:42.119 --> 02:02:46.840 Now let's talk about something that does work. STERI Turnkey. 2180 02:02:47.640 --> 02:02:51.640 You know, I have a lot of sponsors, and I 2181 02:02:51.760 --> 02:02:52.840 like a lot of sponsors. 2182 02:02:52.840 --> 02:02:53.920 I really do, because I. 2183 02:02:53.920 --> 02:02:56.720 Check them out. Not all of them, though, do I 2184 02:02:56.760 --> 02:02:59.359 want to get involved with necessarily. 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I'm telling you 2196 02:03:34.359 --> 02:03:37.439 that straight up. I'm not kidding. By the way, I'm 2197 02:03:37.439 --> 02:03:39.960 doing it in a very creative way. I want multiple, multiple, 2198 02:03:40.039 --> 02:03:44.600 multiple properties. I like the way they're doing it. And 2199 02:03:46.039 --> 02:03:49.279 they have a meeting or a seminar this Saturday in 2200 02:03:49.319 --> 02:03:52.640 the Tech Center. So why don't you take this down 2201 02:03:52.680 --> 02:03:57.199 and look it up and sign up my Biggest return 2202 02:03:57.359 --> 02:04:01.880 dot com? My biggest return dot Com. Now we have 2203 02:04:01.960 --> 02:04:05.600 more coming up with questions. Some people have questions about it, 2204 02:04:05.720 --> 02:04:11.640 like the average lease where you go for loans, and 2205 02:04:12.439 --> 02:04:16.119 these are practical questions. So let's talk about that and more, 2206 02:04:16.279 --> 02:04:18.319 And what are the rates on these loans? Doesn't that 2207 02:04:18.359 --> 02:04:21.279 make it difficult to make money? Blah blah blah. More 2208 02:04:21.479 --> 02:04:30.399 on that coming up. Go with a sure thing Denver's 2209 02:04:30.439 --> 02:04:33.319 Best roofer Excel Roofing dot com. You don't pay a 2210 02:04:33.399 --> 02:04:39.880 cent until you're content. Time for an insurance check up free, 2211 02:04:39.960 --> 02:04:43.680 no obligation. In comparison, call Compass Insurance paying too much 2212 02:04:43.840 --> 02:04:46.760 your coverage at dozens of insurance companies find out now 2213 02:04:46.840 --> 02:04:49.119 three o three seven to seven to one. Help. You'll 2214 02:04:49.119 --> 02:04:51.880 think you're his only customer when you choose Frank durand 2215 02:04:51.880 --> 02:04:54.359 the real estate Man dot com to list your home 2216 02:04:54.560 --> 02:04:59.399 with Remax Alliance three three nine to zero sixteen twenty two. 2217 02:05:03.960 --> 02:05:07.960 Hi Tom Martino here three oh three seven one three 2218 02:05:07.960 --> 02:05:11.600 talks seven one three eight two five five. Deputy bo, 2219 02:05:12.560 --> 02:05:13.960 you have another follow up, sir. 2220 02:05:15.119 --> 02:05:22.279 Yes, this is from Patricia. She called on August twenty 2221 02:05:22.319 --> 02:05:24.000 third to twelve o'clock hour. 2222 02:05:24.479 --> 02:05:29.319 She had a big issue with Vivent Security right. 2223 02:05:29.279 --> 02:05:33.399 Or vivid Yeah? Huh? And what was the issue? 2224 02:05:33.479 --> 02:05:36.039 So the issue was she was she lived in Eaton, Colorado. 2225 02:05:36.119 --> 02:05:37.800 She was moving I believe to Greeley. 2226 02:05:38.319 --> 02:05:40.359 Oh. She wanted to take her stuff. 2227 02:05:40.399 --> 02:05:44.000 That's right, took her stuff and and for her to 2228 02:05:44.119 --> 02:05:47.520 move to a different location. That Vivent promised her a 2229 02:05:47.600 --> 02:05:52.399 three hundred dollars credit to do this, so Tom she 2230 02:05:52.520 --> 02:05:57.079 never got the credit. So and she what she wasn't 2231 02:05:57.119 --> 02:05:59.720 paying the bill. She just want hope, she hoped, she 2232 02:05:59.800 --> 02:06:02.319 was hoping they had to apply this three hundred dollar credit. 2233 02:06:03.079 --> 02:06:06.520 So they didn't apply the credit, and then they turned 2234 02:06:06.520 --> 02:06:08.680 her over to legal. They turned her over to a 2235 02:06:08.720 --> 02:06:14.119 collection attorney. So she was calling and calling. So I called, 2236 02:06:14.159 --> 02:06:14.680 I got a hold. 2237 02:06:14.680 --> 02:06:17.000 Did she ever have it installed though in the new place? 2238 02:06:17.680 --> 02:06:19.479 Yes, she did. She was using it. 2239 02:06:19.520 --> 02:06:22.600 That's why they turned her over for collection, because she 2240 02:06:22.680 --> 02:06:23.560 wasn't paying. 2241 02:06:23.239 --> 02:06:26.079 The bill and because she was promised to credit. 2242 02:06:26.199 --> 02:06:29.239 Right, she was hoping to use the promise three hundred 2243 02:06:29.279 --> 02:06:34.319 dollars credit. So after making like multiple calls and getting 2244 02:06:34.359 --> 02:06:37.640 hold of their public relations people, she just this was 2245 02:06:37.680 --> 02:06:40.960 back in August. They finally got reached back to me 2246 02:06:41.039 --> 02:06:44.680 the other day into her they're giving her her three 2247 02:06:44.720 --> 02:06:47.840 hundred dollars credit and they're taking. 2248 02:06:47.520 --> 02:06:51.359 Her off collections. So this worked out good. 2249 02:06:52.239 --> 02:06:53.760 Oh man, hold on, I'll get to. 2250 02:06:53.720 --> 02:06:56.159 Use because of the involvement of the Troubleshooter show. 2251 02:06:56.239 --> 02:06:59.520 Yeah, view, I get to all my deputies, I get 2252 02:06:59.520 --> 02:07:01.880 to use my or twice in a day. I'm not 2253 02:07:01.880 --> 02:07:05.000 sure if I can go blind, but here in there 2254 02:07:05.079 --> 02:07:08.079 we go anyway, both thanks a lot, man, we do 2255 02:07:08.159 --> 02:07:08.840 appreciate that. 2256 02:07:10.279 --> 02:07:10.800 You're welcome. 2257 02:07:11.319 --> 02:07:14.399 I'll think, man, I have a question here on the 2258 02:07:14.479 --> 02:07:19.159 average lease. I think what they mean is is it 2259 02:07:19.199 --> 02:07:22.640 a year, six months, three years, two years? What what 2260 02:07:22.760 --> 02:07:24.720 have your people been doing on leases? 2261 02:07:24.960 --> 02:07:26.840 Seldom is it less than a year? 2262 02:07:27.079 --> 02:07:30.159 Okay, Usually it's a one to two year lease, usually 2263 02:07:30.199 --> 02:07:35.479 one year, and again we do it's our intent and 2264 02:07:35.520 --> 02:07:38.199 again we match this over ninety five percent of the 2265 02:07:38.239 --> 02:07:41.319 time that the first year it'll be positive cash flow. 2266 02:07:42.039 --> 02:07:44.399 So but how do you do that? That leads into 2267 02:07:44.399 --> 02:07:46.239 my next question? What about the rates? 2268 02:07:47.079 --> 02:07:47.279 Yeah? 2269 02:07:47.319 --> 02:07:49.000 The rates? What are the rates? 2270 02:07:49.039 --> 02:07:54.560 Well, twenty five percent down par means no upfront points 2271 02:07:55.039 --> 02:07:59.560 right now, that's at seven and one eighth. The highest 2272 02:07:59.640 --> 02:08:03.159 we have anybody pay is seven and a half. However, 2273 02:08:03.760 --> 02:08:07.399 that was the quoted rate. Almost all of the sellers. 2274 02:08:07.399 --> 02:08:09.680 Now we get good buyer agents who know how to 2275 02:08:09.760 --> 02:08:14.239 negotiate with the seller agent sellers. Almost all of our 2276 02:08:14.279 --> 02:08:17.560 buyers have had a rate at seven and one eighth 2277 02:08:18.159 --> 02:08:23.359 or below because the sellers will pay one point for 2278 02:08:23.760 --> 02:08:29.279 down payment. So now another item here is you get 2279 02:08:29.279 --> 02:08:34.920 an interest rate, lowering interest rate if you put thirty 2280 02:08:35.000 --> 02:08:38.880 percent down, and you get a bigger chunk lower interest 2281 02:08:38.960 --> 02:08:41.760 rate if you put forty percent down. So a lot 2282 02:08:41.800 --> 02:08:45.119 of our second, third, and fourth time buyers who are 2283 02:08:45.159 --> 02:08:48.760 buying from their ten to thirty one exchange money are 2284 02:08:48.800 --> 02:08:52.399 putting thirty and forty percent down and they're as low 2285 02:08:52.560 --> 02:08:57.880 as six and one eighth sixth and one eighth percent interest. 2286 02:08:58.000 --> 02:09:00.640 So we watch that all. It's all part of it. 2287 02:09:00.720 --> 02:09:03.239 We have lenders, And where do you go for lends? Yeah? 2288 02:09:03.239 --> 02:09:07.279 Where do we have two lenders here in the metro area. 2289 02:09:07.319 --> 02:09:10.279 We shop them. Our lender rule by the way to town. 2290 02:09:10.399 --> 02:09:11.439 They'll loan out of state. 2291 02:09:12.439 --> 02:09:15.079 They have to work in all fifty states. But our 2292 02:09:15.159 --> 02:09:19.760 rule for lenders for our quality high standards is twenty twenty. 2293 02:09:20.039 --> 02:09:24.319 Just think of twenty twenty vision twenty percent lowest cost, 2294 02:09:24.560 --> 02:09:29.159 lowest rate, and twenty percent highest service. So we have 2295 02:09:29.279 --> 02:09:30.600 twenty twenty lenders. 2296 02:09:30.720 --> 02:09:33.840 Do you like do the lenders like when you're involved? 2297 02:09:33.880 --> 02:09:35.680 Do they like when they're a client of yours. Do 2298 02:09:35.720 --> 02:09:36.800 they know about the program? 2299 02:09:36.880 --> 02:09:39.359 Oh, they love it because they know that we have 2300 02:09:39.479 --> 02:09:44.199 prequalified the consumer before the consumer ever even calls them 2301 02:09:44.600 --> 02:09:45.920 to apply for the loan. 2302 02:09:46.159 --> 02:09:48.239 Have you ever had friends going together on one? 2303 02:09:48.800 --> 02:09:49.039 I have? 2304 02:09:50.000 --> 02:09:53.880 Okay, Like you can't pull together to strangers, but friends 2305 02:09:53.920 --> 02:09:55.680 can come to you and say, I want to be 2306 02:09:55.720 --> 02:09:59.760 pooled with this person, okay. And the reason for that 2307 02:09:59.840 --> 02:10:03.600 is the securities laws say when somebody else pulls your money, 2308 02:10:04.159 --> 02:10:05.920 it becomes a security security. 2309 02:10:06.039 --> 02:10:09.560 So we cannot mention it. You can consumers mention it 2310 02:10:09.640 --> 02:10:13.399 to us. That's okay. We can listen, but we cannot 2311 02:10:13.560 --> 02:10:16.000 tout that or mention it right. 2312 02:10:16.640 --> 02:10:19.319 Three oh three seven to one three talk seven one 2313 02:10:19.359 --> 02:10:25.720 three eight two five five. So the weekend Saturday morning 2314 02:10:25.840 --> 02:10:28.600 at ten, you know, by the way, I like that. 2315 02:10:28.840 --> 02:10:32.359 Most people do them weeknights at six or on a 2316 02:10:32.439 --> 02:10:34.800 weekend in the evening. Why are you picking? Did you 2317 02:10:34.840 --> 02:10:37.119 have you done this before? Where you find the morning? 2318 02:10:37.199 --> 02:10:37.840 The mid morning? 2319 02:10:37.880 --> 02:10:42.239 I've done seminars for forty years. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday nights 2320 02:10:42.239 --> 02:10:46.760 are pretty darn good. Oh, but Saturdays are better Saturday mornings. Now, 2321 02:10:46.880 --> 02:10:50.479 the key is keeping it full of information and ninety 2322 02:10:50.560 --> 02:10:55.920 minutes maximum time. We do our webinars on the odd months. 2323 02:10:55.920 --> 02:10:58.920 We only do our live seminars every four months, but 2324 02:10:59.039 --> 02:11:02.239 we do our webinar. Is there fifty minutes okay, but 2325 02:11:02.319 --> 02:11:05.720 it's also Saturday mornings here typically. 2326 02:11:05.920 --> 02:11:08.840 Now, if people call you directly, you'll talk to them. 2327 02:11:08.880 --> 02:11:10.279 I mean, they don't have to wait for one of. 2328 02:11:10.199 --> 02:11:12.840 These, of course not they could meet with us. It 2329 02:11:12.880 --> 02:11:17.079 starts with a conversation. A couple of our coordinators are 2330 02:11:17.079 --> 02:11:21.199 on a short break until Wednesday afternoon. That's just tomorrow. 2331 02:11:21.560 --> 02:11:24.960 But we could be reached at three oh three eight 2332 02:11:25.079 --> 02:11:29.199 eight eight three seven eight eight at any time, anytime. 2333 02:11:29.359 --> 02:11:30.640 Text this twenty four. 2334 02:11:30.720 --> 02:11:35.560 S eight eight eight thirty seven eighty eight. And do 2335 02:11:35.680 --> 02:11:38.560 you have any other people want to know about out 2336 02:11:38.560 --> 02:11:41.680 of state ors? We get people listening from all over 2337 02:11:42.079 --> 02:11:46.720 on the stream, and this comes from the iHeart thing. 2338 02:11:47.199 --> 02:11:49.800 Do you have any people in other states? Or can 2339 02:11:49.800 --> 02:11:52.079 they just call you? In other words, do you have 2340 02:11:52.239 --> 02:11:54.720 offices elsewhere? Do you need them? You don't even need them? 2341 02:11:54.760 --> 02:11:57.199 No, no, no, we don't need them. But we are 2342 02:11:57.680 --> 02:12:01.760 opening up what we call welcome center. Best there turnkey 2343 02:12:01.800 --> 02:12:05.119 welcome centers in other states. The first one won't be 2344 02:12:05.199 --> 02:12:08.279 open till January or February, we're probably going to open 2345 02:12:08.279 --> 02:12:09.800 a handful all at once just. 2346 02:12:09.760 --> 02:12:13.039 To get other state people investing out of state. And 2347 02:12:13.079 --> 02:12:18.720 then so you as a real estate person, you're working 2348 02:12:18.760 --> 02:12:21.840 through licensed real estate people in that state, or are 2349 02:12:21.880 --> 02:12:23.800 you licensed in that state or your people? 2350 02:12:24.239 --> 02:12:29.039 We are not licensed in any state except Colorado. Okay, 2351 02:12:29.279 --> 02:12:33.119 So but we carefully vet I built two national networks 2352 02:12:33.159 --> 02:12:37.279 to buyer agents, and then so we select the best 2353 02:12:37.359 --> 02:12:40.680 of the best buyer agents in that local area. They're 2354 02:12:40.760 --> 02:12:46.199 licensed of course, and do the great job of negotiating 2355 02:12:46.239 --> 02:12:48.800 the best deal for the buyers, and then negotiate the 2356 02:12:48.840 --> 02:12:52.640 best deal when our customer becomes a seller. 2357 02:12:53.239 --> 02:12:53.520 Yeah. 2358 02:12:53.800 --> 02:12:57.119 I mean, I think that the way you describe it 2359 02:12:57.199 --> 02:12:59.079 is as trouble free as you can get. When it 2360 02:12:59.119 --> 02:13:03.800 comes to active rentals. Now I consider this it's it's 2361 02:13:04.039 --> 02:13:09.039 it's legally an active investment, but it is really passive 2362 02:13:09.159 --> 02:13:11.680 in that everything is taken care of, especially if you 2363 02:13:11.720 --> 02:13:16.880 opt for the yearly management fee. Excuse me, not management. 2364 02:13:16.560 --> 02:13:18.720 Fee, but the oversight. 2365 02:13:18.840 --> 02:13:23.640 We for two fifty a year. That's so cheap per property. 2366 02:13:24.199 --> 02:13:28.039 And does what is your average investor own one or 2367 02:13:28.039 --> 02:13:28.720 two properties? 2368 02:13:28.720 --> 02:13:32.399 Are three or four or one okay, good, good question. 2369 02:13:32.479 --> 02:13:35.199 Because in the last five years we've seen that change. 2370 02:13:35.239 --> 02:13:35.760 It's grown. 2371 02:13:36.399 --> 02:13:39.319 It's fractionally. I mean it's about two and a half, 2372 02:13:39.439 --> 02:13:40.720 it's approaching three. 2373 02:13:41.119 --> 02:13:43.840 It's because they start out with one, gain equity and 2374 02:13:43.960 --> 02:13:46.560 buy two of the ten thirty one they see. 2375 02:13:46.600 --> 02:13:48.960 Most people say, Berry, we can start off with two 2376 02:13:49.079 --> 02:13:49.359 or three. 2377 02:13:49.439 --> 02:13:50.279 What do you suggest? 2378 02:13:50.359 --> 02:13:53.239 I said, do one so you could see how it goes. 2379 02:13:53.479 --> 02:13:56.199 But again in three to six months they're saying, Okay, 2380 02:13:56.239 --> 02:13:59.159 we have the money, we want two more so that 2381 02:13:59.159 --> 02:14:02.760 they could see that for sure it is as turnkey 2382 02:14:03.319 --> 02:14:04.399 as we say it is. 2383 02:14:04.880 --> 02:14:07.399 All right, we have more coming up. I'm Tom Martina. 2384 02:14:07.640 --> 02:14:10.840 Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing 2385 02:14:10.960 --> 02:14:13.600 dot com. You don't pay a cent until you're content. 2386 02:14:17.000 --> 02:14:20.560 Time for an insurance checkup, free no obligation comparison call 2387 02:14:20.640 --> 02:14:23.960 Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens of 2388 02:14:24.000 --> 02:14:26.920 insurance companies find out now three all three, seven, seven 2389 02:14:26.960 --> 02:14:29.720 to one help. You'll think you're his only customer when 2390 02:14:29.760 --> 02:14:32.239 you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot com 2391 02:14:32.239 --> 02:14:35.359 to list your home with Remax Alliance three O three 2392 02:14:35.439 --> 02:14:47.960 nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, your troubleshooter, 2393 02:14:48.119 --> 02:14:51.319 finishing up with the steroturnkey dot com. It's been a pleasure. 2394 02:14:51.760 --> 02:14:56.199 Appreciate you being here, and I want people to go 2395 02:14:56.319 --> 02:14:59.520 to this place to at least uh find out more. 2396 02:14:59.600 --> 02:15:03.960 My big guest return dot com. And you know you're 2397 02:15:04.079 --> 02:15:08.039 very straightforward, Barry, I mean necessarily you don't leave anything unsaid. 2398 02:15:08.720 --> 02:15:12.399 You can ask any question you want of him. I 2399 02:15:12.560 --> 02:15:17.399 can't stand people who tout systems and strategies and have 2400 02:15:17.520 --> 02:15:21.359 you ever noticed a lot of these all of these 2401 02:15:22.000 --> 02:15:23.520 I hate to say it, but I'm just gonna say it. 2402 02:15:23.880 --> 02:15:26.000 And they're on all kinds of radio and TV and 2403 02:15:26.079 --> 02:15:30.359 all kinds of advertising. They're either retirement plans or their 2404 02:15:30.640 --> 02:15:37.399 home improvements, or their health programs or their real estate programs, 2405 02:15:37.840 --> 02:15:41.920 and they say the same thing over and over, but 2406 02:15:41.960 --> 02:15:43.439 they never give a detail. 2407 02:15:43.680 --> 02:15:44.159 Never. 2408 02:15:44.439 --> 02:15:48.920 Never. I mean it's like a continual loop, you know, 2409 02:15:49.000 --> 02:15:50.880 and then oh yeah, and I know this one person 2410 02:15:50.920 --> 02:15:52.319 to do this and do that, and I'm going to 2411 02:15:52.359 --> 02:15:54.960 take care of you. But never give the nitty gritty 2412 02:15:55.000 --> 02:15:57.760 like you talk about the time people are going to spend, 2413 02:15:58.560 --> 02:16:02.840 or the management company talk about the pricing the loans 2414 02:16:02.920 --> 02:16:07.600 the rates, the positive cash flows, the disposal of the properties. 2415 02:16:07.960 --> 02:16:10.560 What are you asked a lot? What? In fact, I 2416 02:16:10.600 --> 02:16:12.800 want to ask you what do people ask when they 2417 02:16:12.840 --> 02:16:16.239 call you? I know what they call they? What they say? Firstus? 2418 02:16:16.199 --> 02:16:17.159 Is this for real? 2419 02:16:17.760 --> 02:16:20.359 I know we hear it all the time. What else 2420 02:16:20.520 --> 02:16:23.319 it's too good to be true? Is this for real? 2421 02:16:23.399 --> 02:16:26.439 So we have to do that, but we do it 2422 02:16:26.479 --> 02:16:27.520 with who? What, where? 2423 02:16:27.680 --> 02:16:27.920 When? 2424 02:16:28.119 --> 02:16:28.560 Why? 2425 02:16:28.720 --> 02:16:32.600 And what are the ramifications to you? The consumer? Now, 2426 02:16:32.680 --> 02:16:36.520 the consumers more than anything, say well, now we don't 2427 02:16:36.559 --> 02:16:38.319 have a written plan. Do we have to have a 2428 02:16:38.319 --> 02:16:40.959 written plan. The other question we could ask a lot 2429 02:16:41.079 --> 02:16:43.680 is how much does it take to get in? Well, 2430 02:16:43.719 --> 02:16:47.799 that question, though, leads to five more questions of you know, 2431 02:16:47.920 --> 02:16:52.559 down payment qualifying, Hey, positive cash flow? You know that 2432 02:16:52.639 --> 02:16:56.280 the lease at two thousand a month, three fourths of 2433 02:16:56.360 --> 02:17:00.559 that counts as income for that buyer on that property, 2434 02:17:00.920 --> 02:17:03.360 so they don't have to have a lot of extra income. 2435 02:17:04.120 --> 02:17:07.079 So we get asked the finance questions a lot. 2436 02:17:07.719 --> 02:17:12.959 All right, So remember my biggest return dot com if 2437 02:17:13.000 --> 02:17:14.760 you want to know more. And I'm going to try 2438 02:17:14.760 --> 02:17:19.319 to post that other video about rescuing that old lady 2439 02:17:19.360 --> 02:17:22.440 with that elderly woman with the help of Deputy bow 2440 02:17:22.440 --> 02:17:26.920 And though of course you should, yeah you should, and 2441 02:17:26.959 --> 02:17:29.600 I'll get the sound up on that. So thanks for 2442 02:17:29.639 --> 02:17:32.959 being here. I'm Tom Martino. As always, we'll be back 2443 02:17:32.959 --> 02:17:36.159 here tomorrow three oh three Martino. You can call twenty 2444 02:17:36.200 --> 02:17:40.520 four to seven for help, information and referrals. That's three 2445 02:17:40.559 --> 02:17:45.799 O three six two seven eight four six six. Save 2446 02:17:45.879 --> 02:17:47.040 all your problems for me.