Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to get right
back to that explosive interview that Mark Epstein gave to
the OIG investigators. Mister Richmond indiscernible, Mark Epstein, that's his neck,
all right? If I strangle you, now, that number one
does not look like a sheet. It looks more like
an electric cord, because he had a CPAP machine in
his room with an electric cord. Question. Okay, Epstein, that
does not look like a sheet. Plus, if he had
a sheet around his neck, it would be discolored from
the secretions from his skin. Okay, Now, if I strangle
you metaphorically with an electric indiscernible, you won't get a
groove in your neck because your internal self pressure will
flatten your skin back out, like you might get a
little abrasion mark or a rub mark, but you won't
get a groove stuck in your neck. That takes at
least two hours. That's how we know he was dead
for at least two hours because of the Okay, that's uncontroverted, Richmond.
It's not consistent with what you thought was demonstrated as
the noose and that comment was made by Richmond redacted, Right,
Richmond evidence with indiscernible, Abstein, he could have been for
six hours, but a minimum of two. That's doctor Boden.
You know opinion, which I take is more of indiscernible
as opposed to it. That's not a sheet, that looks
more like an electric cord. Also, you see these marks
above the groove line redacted. Okay, Abstein, if you hang
yourself and you put something around your neck and you
hang yourself, okay, it's going to slip up. It's going
to go high on your neck. If anything, the skin
below the mark is going to be abraided or roughed up.
Because the nooses don't indiscernible, you're not going to get
marks above your noose. It won't go down your neck,
won't mark above the noose, the noose line or whatever
the ligature whatever was used. You know where these marks
above the line. That means also if you hang yourself,
that line goes up, it goes to your ears. You
strangle with a garrot, that's more straight back. I mean
the line goes all the way back. And that's what
to expect. Okay, So here's the closer look the better. Look,
that's not the noose, it's not a sheet doing that.
That's being abraided from that. Also, his eyes, I'm going
to have pictures of it when you strangle, you know,
the little blood vessels in your eyes burst Richmond indiscernible Epstein,
the tipia whatever, and it's exhibited here. Also he has
a cut on his arm here, you know, so you
can see the groove is in there, that groove is
not coming out. What number is that? That may be
the list? Hold on, let's reboot redacted. When did you
last quick question? You mentioned that you heard from somebody
that they had in your time at the hospital. Who
did you hear that from? Mister Epstein? Do you have
a specific name Epstein? No, okay, there is the indiscernible.
Where is the little indiscernible because there's a cut on
his lip here? Look at that. There's a bruise on
the back of his neck. Here. Oh, there's another question
I had before I forget is in the paperwork the
last guards to see him was Tovin O Weell and indiscernible.
You see here it's just like a little indiscernible. Another
thing you should be investigating assuming he was killed is
redacted because I was also told this was through somebody
who indiscernible, through the attorney because somebody was underwater. He
said that somebody was indiscernible. So you know, there is
an old saying that anyone can commit murder, but it
takes an artist to commit suicide. If this was done
somebody who was put on that indiscernible to do this,
somebody was indiscernible, he was killed, you know, back to
his cell anyone else after the fact of time have
been transferred off because if someone was indiscernible to do this,
I don't know if he's lost indiscernible. Find out who
was on that cord. You know that was two weeks
practically redacted. Who told you that someone was indiscernible Epstein,
a journalist indiscernible, He lied redacted. Now that is something
we would very much like the follow up on. Was
there any can you talk to someone about how that
would discernible or not? Epstein? I will ask if I
can get you the indiscernible redacted, Okay, Epstein. I've also
heard that there's like twenty plus cards that were like
there furlough that haven't worked. Since indiscernible redacted. That's the
same nows on the floor. Epstein, Yes, mister Epstein, Yeah,
that's not cut. It's kind of indiscernible, and it's not
you know, I mean, it's pretty standard sizes, I believe,
and this would be discolored from the secretions of his things.
I will also tell you is that in the twenty
sixteen election, my brother didn't tell me why indiscernible. What
he told me is he said that he knew about
indiscernible Trump indiscernible because they would have to cancel the election.
My brother is also indiscernible. He's worked with Steve Bannon,
who's work with indiscernible. Steve Bannon has hours of videotape.
I know this because my brother said he worked with him,
and on that day he said he stopped hanging out
with Trump when he realized indiscernible in papers they're reading,
he stopped hanging out with Trump and like he fell apart.
It was bullshit. Everybody was like, indiscernible, he stopped hanging
out with Trump when he realized Trump was a dick.
That's exactly what he said. And I think indiscernible, all right,
and I don't have any proof, but if this was murder,
then the government would probably indiscernible. And I know also
that hurting somebody else in a federal prison that the
DEA agent transported to a maximum security he's a real
bad and carried on and felt even worse. You know,
he was brought out to be indiscernible. They handcuffed him
before they uncuff him. And he was a DEE agent
who was getting the credibility as a criminal, as a
bad guy, a troublemaker. So it's justice from you can
put people in prison that have indiscernible. I was told
that by somebody. So yeah. So also the thing I
wanted to show you here the reason I honestly, to
be honest with you, I think Trump is behind it.
If someone was closer on the inside told me Trump
indiscernible after his death. You know someone who knows more
about this shit than I do, redacted. Well, when you
say that Trump was a crook or that your brother
said that indiscernible, can you give me more information other
than just that, mister Epstein, No, he didn't tell me that.
But if you were a legal businessman, you would know
that Trump is a crook. Everybody knows Trump's a crook.
That's why no legitimate real estate people would deal with them. Redacted.
And when you say crook, though, can you just kind
of explain that, Epstein, he robs people. He probably close
to the wealth he has comes from the money he
didn't pay people he screwed over and over and over,
and he pays them like a percentage of what he
owes them. They signed non disclosure agreements. That's how he slides.
And everybody knows that question. All right, Epstein. Now this
video from before my brother's death. Indiscernible. But wait, I'm
going to get to the beginning of the part, Miss Richmond.
Some of the information about this is also indiscernible. When
you're talking about indiscernible, Epstein, Well, let me see if
I can. Oh, he asked them, all right, So this
is before he died redacted. So we're looking at mister Epstein,
I've met Trump redacted. President Trump there, as well as
the news reporter mister Epstein. O'reiley, bill, O'Reilly. Question, do
you know when that was done? Mister Epstein? It was
prior to his death, that was question. Prior to the death.
Epstein but you know, I mean personally, I think Trump
was jealous that people indiscernible and wanted to take that power.
That's indiscernible to Trump indiscernible, you know, Richmond, I noticed
that not your strongest argument, Epstein, No, it's not my
strongest argument. It's that's an opinion, okay, but this is
my strongest argument. Redacted. So when's the last time you
spoke with Jeffrey Epstein the Thursday night before he was arrested? Redacted?
Do you remember around when that date would have been, Epstein? Yeah,
July eighth or ninth or something redacted. Okay, Epstein on
a Thursday night redacted. So twenty nineteen, Epstein, Yeah, yeah,
I was right before his death. So he called me
if he was in Paris. He called me, just the usual,
you know, indiscernible, you know, and then the next day
he you know, flew back and he was arrested that Friday,
Saturday morning. His attorneys called me and told me he
was arrested. Redacted. And how often would you talk with
Jeffrey up until then, Epstein? We would talk every couple
of weeks or something like that, a week a month,
you know, we emailed something whatever, you know, just trying,
and I keep telling him what's hanging with the family stuff,
and we in discernible stories. He used to hang out
with Billy Idyl, though, so you would tell me funny
things that we had on set. I guess Billy Idyl
is a funny guy. You know. We just used to
keep check redacted. I don't know where we heard this
information from, but I was told. I was informed that
you were estrange for like a number of years. Is
that correct? Epstein? No? Question. You hadn't seen him, Epstein,
I haven't seen him? Question? Okay, Epstein, My mother died
in two thousand and four. Since that time, maybe I
saw him a handful of times. And the last time
was seven years prior to his death. Question. Okay, so
you hadn't seen him four seven years, Epstein. Yeah. Question,
But you spoke over the telephone a number of times
a week, yeah, and emailed question okay and email Epstein. Yeah.
It's like, for instance, I mean, I have the email
exchange and when he sent me the video clip that
back indiscernible, you know, and I asked him, you know,
what's this for? You know, and he said indiscernible Testimony
I said, you were subpoena redacted. Uh huh, Abstein, He said, no,
he was just he was doing stuff and you know,
he just he said, I thought indiscernible, he thought I
would find it funny. I remember it was like he
was had a beer in the video, and I've never
seen my brother with a beer before. So I wrote back,
I said, the funniest part is you were with a beer.
And he wrote back, he said that you could tell
who I was. My disguise didn't work, you know, it
was just it was just banter between brothers. So that
was the last time I spoke with him, was that
Thursday night before he was indiscernible redacted. Okay, do you
know anything about his state of mind leading up to
he gets cut off by Epstein? Yeah? I know who
he spoke to the day before he died redacted? And
who did he speak to? Epstein? He spoke to someone
who was close to him, I mean, and they had
indiscernible not a clue indiscernible that this happened, and most
of his One of his attorneys gave an indiscernible was
publicly saying that he spoke to Jeffrey Jeffrey was very upbeat.
He was also thought that he had good taste, using
a discernible non prosecution agreement he had from Florida from
years back. So and also when Jeffrey was first arrested,
his attorneys called me and asked me if I would
back and help him with his bill. They said, it's
indiscernible other people indiscernible participate in the Bell because they
should indiscernible. And then Jeffrey was not going to flee.
He wasn't fleeing indiscernible, not that he would do that anyhow,
because he indiscernible. And that's what put me on the map.
Most people didn't even know jeff had a brother, wheredacted okay, Epstein.
We had a social life together, and so that's where
my head dating back, you know, referred to as indiscernible proctologist.
Every journalist on the planet would indiscernible to try and
find some dirt on me, to try to make me
tell this kind of stuff. But yeah, we had two
separate lives. And so Bell was denied and then he
had a Bell hearing coming up two days after he died,
and this time and he was pretty up, like, you know,
his jets the house, those hundred million dollars worth of
stuff for the bell. The highest bell in the United
States ever was one hundred million dollars. So indiscernible. So
that's the highest bell they ruled on. When they were
going through the appeal on the bill, his attorneys called
me up and they asked me if I would guarantee
his entire bell, and it has since doubled, and I
agreed to it. Question, okay, Abstein, And so there might
have been a chance he got bell in two days, Richmond, right, Abstein,
And then he would have been under house arrest. He
would have paid four guards, they would have had an ankle, monitor, camera,
whatever it would take to do this all. So if
you and I think, you know, if he was going
to take himself out, wait two fucking days. You know,
if you get ball, then you at least your home
for a year before the trial comes up, if nothing
else and discernible doesn't make sense, Ebstein, if Jeffrey went,
I don't think Jeffrey would do that. Redacted. So you
did actually agree to the bell, Abstein? Yeah, redacted? And
that was two days after he was found, Abstein, Ho, Richmond,
that's the day Apstein. The hearing was supposed to be
that's right. He gets interrupted and I agreed before he
was dead. But the hearing was supposed to take place,
like he died. I think it was August ninth or something.
The hearing was scheduled for like eleventh or something. There
was like a two day gap redacted. And then do
you remember how much the bell was Abstein? Close to
one hundred million? Redacted? It was close to one hundred Abstein, yeah, redacted. Still,
just to clarify, you mentioned one hundred million dollar bill
and you're guarantee on top of it, so that was
technically two hundred million. Mister Epstein, right, and his friend
David Mitchell put up some I don't know how much
Day put up, but he also in the initial pool
at first in discernible house in Florida. David also put
up some indiscernible. David Mitchell is the one who the
friend and I heard he was reaching, you know, indiscernible.
All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up this episode right here,
and in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're
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