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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to get right

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back to that explosive interview that Mark Epstein gave to

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the OIG investigators. Mister Richmond indiscernible, Mark Epstein, that's his neck,

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all right? If I strangle you, now, that number one

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does not look like a sheet. It looks more like

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an electric cord, because he had a CPAP machine in

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his room with an electric cord. Question. Okay, Epstein, that

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does not look like a sheet. Plus, if he had

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a sheet around his neck, it would be discolored from

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the secretions from his skin. Okay, Now, if I strangle

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you metaphorically with an electric indiscernible, you won't get a

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groove in your neck because your internal self pressure will

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flatten your skin back out, like you might get a

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little abrasion mark or a rub mark, but you won't

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get a groove stuck in your neck. That takes at

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least two hours. That's how we know he was dead

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for at least two hours because of the Okay, that's uncontroverted, Richmond.

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It's not consistent with what you thought was demonstrated as

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the noose and that comment was made by Richmond redacted, Right,

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Richmond evidence with indiscernible, Abstein, he could have been for

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six hours, but a minimum of two. That's doctor Boden.

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You know opinion, which I take is more of indiscernible

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as opposed to it. That's not a sheet, that looks

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more like an electric cord. Also, you see these marks

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above the groove line redacted. Okay, Abstein, if you hang

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yourself and you put something around your neck and you

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hang yourself, okay, it's going to slip up. It's going

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to go high on your neck. If anything, the skin

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below the mark is going to be abraided or roughed up.

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Because the nooses don't indiscernible, you're not going to get

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marks above your noose. It won't go down your neck,

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won't mark above the noose, the noose line or whatever

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the ligature whatever was used. You know where these marks

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above the line. That means also if you hang yourself,

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that line goes up, it goes to your ears. You

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strangle with a garrot, that's more straight back. I mean

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the line goes all the way back. And that's what

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to expect. Okay, So here's the closer look the better. Look,

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that's not the noose, it's not a sheet doing that.

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That's being abraided from that. Also, his eyes, I'm going

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to have pictures of it when you strangle, you know,

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the little blood vessels in your eyes burst Richmond indiscernible Epstein,

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the tipia whatever, and it's exhibited here. Also he has

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a cut on his arm here, you know, so you

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can see the groove is in there, that groove is

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not coming out. What number is that? That may be

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the list? Hold on, let's reboot redacted. When did you

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last quick question? You mentioned that you heard from somebody

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that they had in your time at the hospital. Who

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did you hear that from? Mister Epstein? Do you have

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a specific name Epstein? No, okay, there is the indiscernible.

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Where is the little indiscernible because there's a cut on

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his lip here? Look at that. There's a bruise on

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the back of his neck. Here. Oh, there's another question

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I had before I forget is in the paperwork the

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last guards to see him was Tovin O Weell and indiscernible.

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You see here it's just like a little indiscernible. Another

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thing you should be investigating assuming he was killed is

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redacted because I was also told this was through somebody

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who indiscernible, through the attorney because somebody was underwater. He

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said that somebody was indiscernible. So you know, there is

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an old saying that anyone can commit murder, but it

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takes an artist to commit suicide. If this was done

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somebody who was put on that indiscernible to do this,

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somebody was indiscernible, he was killed, you know, back to

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his cell anyone else after the fact of time have

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been transferred off because if someone was indiscernible to do this,

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I don't know if he's lost indiscernible. Find out who

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was on that cord. You know that was two weeks

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practically redacted. Who told you that someone was indiscernible Epstein,

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a journalist indiscernible, He lied redacted. Now that is something

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we would very much like the follow up on. Was

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there any can you talk to someone about how that

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would discernible or not? Epstein? I will ask if I

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can get you the indiscernible redacted, Okay, Epstein. I've also

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heard that there's like twenty plus cards that were like

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there furlough that haven't worked. Since indiscernible redacted. That's the

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same nows on the floor. Epstein, Yes, mister Epstein, Yeah,

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that's not cut. It's kind of indiscernible, and it's not

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you know, I mean, it's pretty standard sizes, I believe,

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and this would be discolored from the secretions of his things.

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I will also tell you is that in the twenty

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sixteen election, my brother didn't tell me why indiscernible. What

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he told me is he said that he knew about

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indiscernible Trump indiscernible because they would have to cancel the election.

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My brother is also indiscernible. He's worked with Steve Bannon,

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who's work with indiscernible. Steve Bannon has hours of videotape.

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I know this because my brother said he worked with him,

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and on that day he said he stopped hanging out

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with Trump when he realized indiscernible in papers they're reading,

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he stopped hanging out with Trump and like he fell apart.

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It was bullshit. Everybody was like, indiscernible, he stopped hanging

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out with Trump when he realized Trump was a dick.

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That's exactly what he said. And I think indiscernible, all right,

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and I don't have any proof, but if this was murder,

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then the government would probably indiscernible. And I know also

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that hurting somebody else in a federal prison that the

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DEA agent transported to a maximum security he's a real

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bad and carried on and felt even worse. You know,

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he was brought out to be indiscernible. They handcuffed him

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before they uncuff him. And he was a DEE agent

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who was getting the credibility as a criminal, as a

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bad guy, a troublemaker. So it's justice from you can

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put people in prison that have indiscernible. I was told

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that by somebody. So yeah. So also the thing I

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wanted to show you here the reason I honestly, to

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be honest with you, I think Trump is behind it.

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If someone was closer on the inside told me Trump

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indiscernible after his death. You know someone who knows more

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about this shit than I do, redacted. Well, when you

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say that Trump was a crook or that your brother

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said that indiscernible, can you give me more information other

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than just that, mister Epstein, No, he didn't tell me that.

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But if you were a legal businessman, you would know

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that Trump is a crook. Everybody knows Trump's a crook.

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That's why no legitimate real estate people would deal with them. Redacted.

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And when you say crook, though, can you just kind

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of explain that, Epstein, he robs people. He probably close

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to the wealth he has comes from the money he

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didn't pay people he screwed over and over and over,

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and he pays them like a percentage of what he

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owes them. They signed non disclosure agreements. That's how he slides.

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And everybody knows that question. All right, Epstein. Now this

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video from before my brother's death. Indiscernible. But wait, I'm

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going to get to the beginning of the part, Miss Richmond.

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Some of the information about this is also indiscernible. When

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you're talking about indiscernible, Epstein, Well, let me see if

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I can. Oh, he asked them, all right, So this

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is before he died redacted. So we're looking at mister Epstein,

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I've met Trump redacted. President Trump there, as well as

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the news reporter mister Epstein. O'reiley, bill, O'Reilly. Question, do

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you know when that was done? Mister Epstein? It was

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prior to his death, that was question. Prior to the death.

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Epstein but you know, I mean personally, I think Trump

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was jealous that people indiscernible and wanted to take that power.

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That's indiscernible to Trump indiscernible, you know, Richmond, I noticed

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that not your strongest argument, Epstein, No, it's not my

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strongest argument. It's that's an opinion, okay, but this is

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my strongest argument. Redacted. So when's the last time you

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spoke with Jeffrey Epstein the Thursday night before he was arrested? Redacted?

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Do you remember around when that date would have been, Epstein? Yeah,

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July eighth or ninth or something redacted. Okay, Epstein on

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a Thursday night redacted. So twenty nineteen, Epstein, Yeah, yeah,

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I was right before his death. So he called me

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if he was in Paris. He called me, just the usual,

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you know, indiscernible, you know, and then the next day

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he you know, flew back and he was arrested that Friday,

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Saturday morning. His attorneys called me and told me he

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was arrested. Redacted. And how often would you talk with

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Jeffrey up until then, Epstein? We would talk every couple

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of weeks or something like that, a week a month,

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you know, we emailed something whatever, you know, just trying,

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and I keep telling him what's hanging with the family stuff,

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and we in discernible stories. He used to hang out

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with Billy Idyl, though, so you would tell me funny

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things that we had on set. I guess Billy Idyl

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is a funny guy. You know. We just used to

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keep check redacted. I don't know where we heard this

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information from, but I was told. I was informed that

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you were estrange for like a number of years. Is

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that correct? Epstein? No? Question. You hadn't seen him, Epstein,

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I haven't seen him? Question? Okay, Epstein, My mother died

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in two thousand and four. Since that time, maybe I

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saw him a handful of times. And the last time

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was seven years prior to his death. Question. Okay, so

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you hadn't seen him four seven years, Epstein. Yeah. Question,

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a week, yeah, and emailed question okay and email Epstein. Yeah.

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It's like, for instance, I mean, I have the email

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exchange and when he sent me the video clip that

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back indiscernible, you know, and I asked him, you know,

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what's this for? You know, and he said indiscernible Testimony

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I said, you were subpoena redacted. Uh huh, Abstein, He said, no,

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he was just he was doing stuff and you know,

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he just he said, I thought indiscernible, he thought I

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would find it funny. I remember it was like he

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was had a beer in the video, and I've never

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seen my brother with a beer before. So I wrote back,

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I said, the funniest part is you were with a beer.

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And he wrote back, he said that you could tell

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who I was. My disguise didn't work, you know, it

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was just it was just banter between brothers. So that

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was the last time I spoke with him, was that

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Thursday night before he was indiscernible redacted. Okay, do you

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know anything about his state of mind leading up to

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he gets cut off by Epstein? Yeah? I know who

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he spoke to the day before he died redacted? And

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who did he speak to? Epstein? He spoke to someone

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who was close to him, I mean, and they had

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indiscernible not a clue indiscernible that this happened, and most

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of his One of his attorneys gave an indiscernible was

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publicly saying that he spoke to Jeffrey Jeffrey was very upbeat.

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a discernible non prosecution agreement he had from Florida from

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years back. So and also when Jeffrey was first arrested,

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his attorneys called me and asked me if I would

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back and help him with his bill. They said, it's

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indiscernible other people indiscernible participate in the Bell because they

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should indiscernible. And then Jeffrey was not going to flee.

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because he indiscernible. And that's what put me on the map.

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Most people didn't even know jeff had a brother, wheredacted okay, Epstein.

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We had a social life together, and so that's where

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my head dating back, you know, referred to as indiscernible proctologist.

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Every journalist on the planet would indiscernible to try and

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find some dirt on me, to try to make me

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tell this kind of stuff. But yeah, we had two

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separate lives. And so Bell was denied and then he

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had a Bell hearing coming up two days after he died,

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and this time and he was pretty up, like, you know,

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his jets the house, those hundred million dollars worth of

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stuff for the bell. The highest bell in the United

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States ever was one hundred million dollars. So indiscernible. So

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that's the highest bell they ruled on. When they were

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going through the appeal on the bill, his attorneys called

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me up and they asked me if I would guarantee

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his entire bell, and it has since doubled, and I

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agreed to it. Question, okay, Abstein, And so there might

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have been a chance he got bell in two days, Richmond, right, Abstein,

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And then he would have been under house arrest. He

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would have paid four guards, they would have had an ankle, monitor, camera,

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whatever it would take to do this all. So if

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you and I think, you know, if he was going

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to take himself out, wait two fucking days. You know,

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if you get ball, then you at least your home

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for a year before the trial comes up, if nothing

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else and discernible doesn't make sense, Ebstein, if Jeffrey went,

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I don't think Jeffrey would do that. Redacted. So you

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did actually agree to the bell, Abstein? Yeah, redacted? And

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that was two days after he was found, Abstein, Ho, Richmond,

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that's the day Apstein. The hearing was supposed to be

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that's right. He gets interrupted and I agreed before he

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was dead. But the hearing was supposed to take place,

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like he died. I think it was August ninth or something.

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The hearing was scheduled for like eleventh or something. There

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was like a two day gap redacted. And then do

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you remember how much the bell was Abstein? Close to

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one hundred million? Redacted? It was close to one hundred Abstein, yeah, redacted. Still,

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just to clarify, you mentioned one hundred million dollar bill

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and you're guarantee on top of it, so that was

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technically two hundred million. Mister Epstein, right, and his friend

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David Mitchell put up some I don't know how much

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Day put up, but he also in the initial pool

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at first in discernible house in Florida. David also put

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up some indiscernible. David Mitchell is the one who the

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friend and I heard he was reaching, you know, indiscernible.

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All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up this episode right here,

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and in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're

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gonna pick up where we left off. All the information

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that goes with this episode can be found in the

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