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Couver Sports, let's welcome in first. My right hand man
SmackDown is live here in Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1: We can say it.
Speaker 2: And Saturday Night's main event will also be live tomorrow
in Utah.
Speaker 1: We won't be going. I got a sick wife.
Speaker 2: I gotta make sure that she's okay and the baby.
That's the most important thing. Brett always bringing a hammer
by my side.
Speaker 1: Brother, how are we doing today?
Speaker 4: Shout out to my brother and sister law Taytan Hannah.
They are actually going to Saturday Night's main event.
Speaker 5: I said, well, the backdown tickets were cheaper. Why are
you not going to that?
Speaker 4: They said, well, we feel like it's probably our obligation
to take our son trick or treating on a Friday night,
So not going to smack down, but they're.
Speaker 1: Going to that.
Speaker 4: Look, I'm happy to be here because Halloween of twenty
twenty four.
Speaker 5: Was actually my first time ever on this program. You
would ask me.
Speaker 4: To come, He'll coros with you Halloween last year, and
I came. It was incredible, and I guess it was
half decent enough that Ben asked me to stick around.
I'm happy to say that I have showed up. I
went up to myself from last year. I brought a
costume this year. DJ Mike Wazowski is in the house
as a grown man. I'm coming to work in a
full green onesie. I gotta say it takes I think
a lot of courage. I was a little comfortab walking
out the house today. I walked into the gas station
to get a drink and everybody was looking at me
all kinds of funny.
Speaker 5: But you know what, when I get to go.
Speaker 4: With my nephew tonight, I am not gonna care because
I'm stressed up as solely.
Speaker 5: So we got the.
Speaker 4: Little dynamic duo going on, me and my little guy.
So I'm happy to be here on a Halloween for
all the reasons.
Speaker 2: Shout out to you. Shout out to Halloween. I'll love
you trigger treating tonight. We need you guys to be
very very safe tonight. If you get injured, remember you
can always hit a orthoposa orthoprosa Utah dot com. Look,
it gets dangerous out there, It gets dangerous. I've had
multitudes of people trample me almost in Chicago trigger treating
back at home, so it can get dangerous. The kiddos
people like their candy. I got some milk duves right
here on the table. Get it to what's your favorite
Halloween candy later if you're a big candy guy. Without
further less, welcome in. I've been saying this the last
couple of days, Brett and this week my elders. I
gotta respect my elders.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: I take what they say very seriously and their advice.
Even when they called me out, I got Brandon C.
Speaker 1: Gurney.
Speaker 2: He's been doing this for a very long time. G Man,
thanks for joining me today. I know you've had a
busy week this week.
Speaker 1: I've been on a buy this week, so I'm I
don't know if I'm up to form. I'm going to
try to recapture some of the the intrepid commentary that
I've exuded on this program in the past or today's program.
But but it's gonna be rough. We'll see, We'll see
how it goes. I don't think it'd be rough. I
think you'd be good.
Speaker 2: Always bringing to girth, Girthie is always love, the love,
the love. The Chubby said, hey have to channel my
er band, have to make sure I represent and get
someone someone.
Speaker 1: I'm a little upset of Ben right now, just because
of this gives us a break with kids. Man, It's
something that just needs to be etched out of our
society because it's just automatic. Oh, I have kids, I
gotta go to Disneyland. You have kids, Disneyland. Oh no,
it needs to end. It needs to stop. And and
it's up to you. Guys.
Speaker 2: You're looking at me in a monster's in costsume and
telling me it's up to me.
Speaker 5: You're gonna ask me on what side of that.
Speaker 1: That's exactly why I'm because you're in that freaking cover there.
I'm all about being key with the kids. And that's fine. Good,
good for you over there, mister bringing the hammer, but
he's so bad. Just don't give the money to that.
The biggest grifting operation side of the United States Congress,
which is the number one grifting operation in our country.
It's not a conspiracy, that's exactly what it is. Second
would be Disneyland in the mouse Oh man, there you go.
Speaker 2: Uh anyway, these are the places that take my money.
Are probably gonna take my money as I get later
parts one, it will be subscriptions. Every subscription will take
my money. Man says that shoes will.
Speaker 1: Take my money. You hear that right now? I got
the shoes, you see me.
Speaker 2: I got on the Blacksmith threes to brand for the
Air Force, a g man for the I like these.
I don't know the brand of it. I've seen Ben
Shelton out of the tests players on what these are nice? No,
people say, you.
Speaker 1: Guys will learn this. The older you get, the more
important shoe comfort becomes. That's what I've heard. I've heard
that I never spend this amount of money on a
pair of shoes in my life, but man, are they comfortable.
It's one of the best purchases I've ever made. I
love these shoes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear comfort is what you go for. Vick
has told me that as well. You know been as
well comfort, so I totally hear that. Listen to you, guys,
but look that those are the two things shoes, subscriptions, shoes.
Obviously I'm not gonna say food, but you could say
that when I'll say a specific place.
Speaker 1: I really dig, like some deep Philly cheese steak in
the state of Utah. I know it's not a sponsor.
Speaker 2: I apologize, So I'm really a big cheese steak guide
that will take my money. Those are good, right, and
then the mouse is probably gonna take it. Because I
have a daughter planning to have more kids, probably have
a family of all girls. I'm just gonna be honest.
It's gonna take that. So that's just uh that and
then buying new garments. Buying new garments seems to be
a thing that I do every every year, So that's
gonna take that. That in the Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter Day saying so now I'm joking. I'm joking
and not taking anything. Shout out to people that are
lining up for all the new garments.
Speaker 1: I saw that. I've never seen that.
Speaker 2: Shot out to JT for three put it out there
of what he will wait in line for, on what
his wife will.
Speaker 1: I think both of those are hilarious.
Speaker 2: Gi man, I'm Black Mario though I'm dressed up as
a black Mario today, so I didn't choose the mouse,
so hope you give me a little bit of respect back.
But I'm filling the Halloween spirit. The Land Before Time
costume didn't come in and to shout out you to
give your counterpart, drewsy is gonna be dressed up as
Little Sully today, So more mouse, that's what it is.
So guys, we appreciate you. Let's get into the rest
of our esp and the fans starting line. I'm gonna
get into some Kelly Papinas out from coordinator's corner in
the nitty gritty. In our Band of Today question Today,
we'll discuss some bou basketball and football talk. Get g
Man's thoughts. Number eight b YU takes on Villanova on Monday.
GAMAI are gonna be in the tennis. So you're heading
down to Vegas.
Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to do it, but I'm part
of the two man sports staff. You are with a
daily herald. So and Darnelle's going. So what one guys there?
The other guy can't, So I need to stay back
And I don't know. Maybe I know I'm not going.
That's okay. Is Double D flying or is he driving?
I have no idea. I'd imagine he's probably driving. But yeah,
I man, I kind of wish I was going now.
But anyway, whatever, Hey, those things happen till they understand.
Not a problem. But I'll just wanted to see behind
on the basketball. I need to bone up on my
basketball knowledge. It's been all football for me. The way
the delineation is is we're busy with the daily here.
We all cover all high school sports, which takes up
a lot of time. And I'm the football beat reporter.
Darnell is the basketball beat reporter, so I don't really
do anything with Bay basketball, but football is where I'm at.
I I've been thinking thoughts on that team all year long.
I've kind of been reassessing what this team's about throughout
the bye week and and what's extraordinary. And I think
guy Klawnie kind of took this demeanor and I liked Monday.
He didn't want to rest on any laurels. That's what
I took from that press conference. He didn't want to
pat himself on the back and work, work, work, We're
doing this boom boom boom. It was kind of a
an un Kalonnie type demeanor, just knowing the guy throughout
the years. But that's exactly the demeanor he's taken with
the team, and he's up front about it, and he
doesn't want this team to rest because Bay you to
continue the progression. You don't want to match what you
did last year. You want to progress beyond that. And
b WAYU is right there where it can do some
significant things this program has never done before. Ie go
to a big twelve championship game, win that game and
go to the college football Playoff. That's the goal. That's
what's obtainable. And if you told me that this is
where b where you would be at two years ago,
I no, no, absolutely not. But the incline has been tremendous.
That's what's locked in and B Way you has bigger
goals set and Klonie's going to do everything in his
power to get them there. The framework that the mindset
of this team, the culture is phenomenal. They have some
serious injury issues, some some that aren't as prevailing as
the other ones. I'm not talking about LG. Martin or
or even ce La A Sarah, but this team really
needs to hill up in key areas. And just hearing
Kilane and just how direct he was and how intentional
his comments were regarding the team continuing that that uptick,
that that that incline, I think it's a positive thing.
And on this team, it's going to respond to what
Klannie says because the culture of this team is phenomenal.
So yeah, it's it's exciting, it's really exciting things for
time to be a Bway football fan. I think Bay
has absolutely has a chance to defeat Texas Tech on
the road is it's going to be the toughest game
of the year so far. But man, what a fun
time what BA used on the cusp of b Wait
absolutely can control its own destiny and and to have
and to have that opportunity. Yeah, and that's exactly my point.
They had that opportunity last year and they squandered it.
And Clonnie does not want to do it. He doesn't
want to match what this team was last year. You
need to keep progressing and Colonnie absolutely knows that more
than anyone else, and he's determined to realize that. So yeah,
let's see what comes up that bye we came out of, ma'am.
Could you imagine a better time for a buye than
this past week B where he absolutely needs that by
LJ obviously needs some recovery time Cela Sarah Jack Kelly
could be afford. But I think the guy that could
benefit more from this by more so than anyone on
this team, is Isaiah Lasker. Isaiah Lasker has been a
shell of himself the last two weeks. I kind of
wonder if he should even be playing. I I his
ankle issues, he does not have that first, he does
not have that giddy up and he has not been
able to the impact that he can. And that you
look at Bway's defense, everyone at all they are giving
up to many yards. It's linebacker related. That group is hurt, man.
They are hurt across the board. They and it's kind
of interesting because you ask anyone what was the strength
of this defus linebacker linebacker, linebacker, Not when they're hurt.
Not when they're hurt. People want all the No, it's
not the defense. Why, it's the linebackers, And it's because
they're they're hurt. They can't feel. Uh is not able
to to take the contact just because he has shoulder issues.
He's not able to. People are breaking off tax Kelly's
falling off tackles because of a shoulder. Those guys need
to get healthy. And I really wonder if it was
proven to play Isaiah Glasker the last two weeks. I'll
go ahead and say it. I from what I've seen,
and I'm a big fan of as Kafusie, I think
Askefusie could provide at least what Isaac Glasker has the
last two weeks. And there's no disrespect Isaiah Glasker. Last
is it needs to be healthy, he needs he needs
to get that back and hopefully that by wake of
forced him the opportunity to get back to where he was.
He's battling and props to him. He's giving it all
out for the team. You respect. That really hurt. May
you kind of wonder if coach, Hey, Isaiah, just we
need you for the stretch run. But dude, just let
let ays take the reps and be good to go,
because what bee Way he's on the cusp bup. You
need Isaiah to be in prime form. You need Zach
Jack Kelly to be in prime form because that's what's
going to realize this opportunity that b Way has in
front of it. And I think b Way he could
have gotten by both Utah and Iowa State seeing what
I saw from Isaiah Gloster in those two games. And again,
this is no disrespect Isaiah. He is a fantastic team player.
He's an NFL linebacker. He is tremendous. He's one of
the best outside linebackers b Way He's ever had, which
is saying something because it's the program that's had Fred Warner,
Kyle Pannoy, Jordan Penalton, a lot of top Isaiah Glasker's
right there, He's right well, and that's what's been I'm
so frustrating watching this team the last two weeks. So
so anyway, hopefully he's back. Hopefully he can realize what
he is, which is tremendous, which can add substantially to
this defensive success after this finer week'. That's what you're
hoping for. It's one A, one B. It's a match
made in heaven.
Speaker 2: If you want to say one guy plays Batman and
Robin or they're both Batman. Jack Kelly too like Jack
and dripped the other shoulder like I'm watching him try
to pull somebody down, g man, Like when did you
see Jack Kelly on the ground.
Speaker 1: Trying to pull someone off like this? No, he's violent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he lowers the shoulder and got this shoulder, just
getting a lot of people like I know what Isaiah's
dealing with the ankle, but Jack shoulder, sale shoulder, Lj's shoulder,
My goodness, is just a shoulder injuries. I know about
something for not playing rugby and you hit people bone
on bone, you do, I greet you, you do?
Speaker 1: Hope they get healthy.
Speaker 2: But I will say this to your point to credit
and improving, I'll give it right back to you. When
Max Alfred brought that pressure, what happened. A turnovercame. Rockoback
threw a ball, Kiano is able to tip it, Logan
took the other way. So that proves your point of linebacker.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they need that linebacker playing and Clara needs
to get healthy. A lot of guys and I haven't
even touched on l J. Martin. Of course, I've heard
a lot of things. You don't want to speculate on
anything injury. Yeah, I know people said, oh, he's done
for the Oh no, he can play to Wait, I don't.
I don't believe he's done for the year. Uh well,
we'll see what happens. But but I'm kind of optimistic.
I think I'm optimistic too. I think LJ is gonna
be fine. We'll we'll see what plays out. But those
linebackers have got to get right. Yeah. I think that
those linebackers can't. They can't continue to give up the
yardage they do. Rock'bec's not going to be man. He
made some bad mistakes, some really really really bad mistakes
and whatever quarterback makes mistakes. I don't like to put
it solely on the quarterback. You have a defense that's
baiting him, that that's putting him in tough situations and
all that, and that's kind of the genius of what
ways uh uh just kind of gone back to work
where they can capitalize on those opportunities where they can
make those plays. But you can't bank on that. You
can't give up the amount of yardage and the amount
of chunk plays be what you has given up in
the last two weeks. You just can't do it and
hope to have success. You certainly can't do it against
Texas Tech. I do think, though the pass rush has
been better. Oh yeah, utah.
Speaker 4: I think that's part of the reason why you could
get away with against Iowa State the lionbacker play was
because the pass rush accelerated everything else and made all
of the defense look better. I think, I actually think,
and I don't think anyone else is talking about this
except for you and I I think Rock Gobeck through
that interception because of the pass rush. I think Keano
Tonovasa got a finger on that ball and shortened the
depth of that ball by ten yards because the receiver
was open. He was behind Logan LATOUI that's ball he
could have made. Now, Logan made a great play and everything.
But I think part of what has made this team
so much better, or maybe not better, but filled in
for the gaps in the minebacker play the last couple
of weeks is this pass rush from Body, Schoonover and
Pooha and the rest of these guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you certainly want to credit that. But still
that's one of the big five mistakes Rockleback made. He's
taking some other big ones, but but yeah, that was big.
But but I see your point. Bway's pass rush has
been better against Utah. I thought it was phenomenal. Yeah,
And what was interesting against Iowa State is you didn't
see guys like Nucy Tamoypeo and uh uh Telsey kind
of playing initially at the end of the game. That's
when they started coming on. Is that's when you started
seeing seeing the turnovers come on. Against Utah. No Noosy
was playing from Rep one. They were employing those guys
early and often. It was really interesting to me to
see how they did against Iowasta because Body was getting
the majority of the reps and he responded, he was fantastic.
Body had the best game he said he's had as
a bee Way Cougar. He was tremendous in that game.
But I think as those guys continue to progress, man,
it's hard not to be bullish on those dns. B
Way you has guys, guys, they've got oods right now.
Four star recruits, Hunter Klegg, Nucy Talmoy Peyo I think
is a four star too.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Here's my hot take on Nucy and and this hit
me the other day in relation to to Jay Hill's
comments about him where he said he's going to he
basically said he's gonna be trumand he's gonna be a special,
special guy. It was it was like praise he's given
to uh solid fallow telsauth Tuala, which we were kind
of loaded to get with until this year. Is like,
oh no, Jay Hill was right. Noucy Talmoy Peyo is
gonna be the new Jack Kelly. In this defense almost
I agree with you on hundred percent. I don't think
that's hot take. I agree you see how b Way
he's going to replace Jack Kelly. They're looking right at
Nucy Talmoy.
Speaker 2: This is why I said they're fine, Like you just
made a take, and again they have to prove go,
prove it right. Yeah, but you're telling me that Ace
can't be Isaiah Glasker, You're telling me that Lucy can't
be Jack Kelly.
Speaker 6: Guys, they're gonna be okay, they got guys this year.
It's top I don't know, you know not this year
is very tough. Yeah, yeah, I'm talking more than that.
And I'm sure you're saying the same thing. Maybe this
is better for offseason talk.
Speaker 5: It could be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what I'm saying is, B way you hit
the components. Bway he has coming up defensively is really, really,
really exciting. The only missing component I still need to
see better defensive tackle death. That's the one position I'm
still not there. They're improving in that regard, but they
still got to get more games. You could lose both
of those guys at the end of season. So you
bring up a good point with that, So we will see.
But I do to your's point, I hope this is
not a hot take.
Speaker 2: I believe with Baron Morden if he's the starting quarterback,
not will Heman, because will Hemon can use his legs
and I think it's more willing to take off earlier
than Baron Morton. Bar Moore likes to stay in the
pocket and slean the football. Everybody knows that he also
gets dinged up. So if he haven't forbid, he makes
it through the Kansas State game. With the way the
bo'st pass, Russ is uped it. If they get out
to him early and get a hand on them, they
might send him night to night pretty early, and they
might be able to put this game game away.
Speaker 1: What I mean put it away. Texas Tech is a
good team.
Speaker 2: They're going to stay in the ball game, but they
might be able to set the tone early of getting home.
Like I don't want to be hyperbole too much or hyperbolic,
but BYU might have its most sacks against Texas Tech
because of the way the quarterback stays in the pocket
and I throws. He does take off and he does run,
but with how he likes to sling the football, he
likes to stay there and throw at Bertie, he likes
to sit back and does it. He's not Avery Johnson,
He's not Sawyer Robinson. Like Will Hammond, I'm more afraid
of running the ball as a dual threat than I am.
Speaker 1: Baron mooredon the biggest component in that Texas Tech game
is going to be the player b way He's offensive line.
Tech line. The guys we saw it against Utah. They
are the best defensive line in the in the conference.
Linebackers can cover today and I don't think Iguez. Yeah,
that'd be where you offensive line is going to have
to be really really good. I agree. I thought they
were tremendous against Utah, probably took a little bit of
a step back against Iowa State. You need such just
a well in the second half, though, did it not? Yeah,
some of those guys are dinged. We're not hearing about it.
I'm sure a lot of guys there are everybody. It's
that to many issues that that that we're not hearing about.
But b w A US offensive lines going to have
to be very very good against test.
Speaker 2: I think you can see Press and Rex had a
lot of screaming. They're gonna like do a lot of
quick scrange motion. And I'll say, the guy that you've
been raving about and I told you Park was gonna
be wide receiver to just don't wink at you, but
I'm gonna give you some love.
Speaker 1: You're like, that's a hot take. Come on, you kept saying,
Cody Hagan, I don't want to have this debate. We're
too late to the second.
Speaker 4: But you also at one point said the Parker Kingson
was wide receiver one and Chase was wide receivers.
Speaker 2: But that was a motivation. That was just my I know,
but I was just we're saying what everybody saying. But
I explained that that was motivation. I was not trying
to be declared if he's not.
Speaker 1: So are you basically just saying that the reason Parker
Kingston has emerged because he was listening to Ronnie ron
the three man Weaver. Yes, that is.
Speaker 2: I mean, look there, I just want to see Chase stuff.
I'm in big moments.
Speaker 1: Can I say something about park kings I've been covering
this team for a long time, and I'm always impressed
by guys that are forthright, that want to do the interviews,
that want to present themselves. That has absolutely been Parker
Kingston throughout the off sea. That says a lot about
a player, that says a lot about his confidence, his
adherence to the system, to the culture, And that's absolutely
been Parker Kings and it's been different. He was not
that guy prior to this year. This year, he's really
really taken the onus on himself. I'm going to be
a guy. I'm gonna be a face. I'm gonna do this.
I don't care. I'm gonna do every opportunity I can't.
I mean, who do they present more so than anyone
else on the Monday press conference, that's Parker Kingston. He
wants to talk, he wants to tell his story. He's
overcome adversity. I could not be more impressed from what
I've seen from Parker Kingston this year. He's maximizing his ability,
he's realizing what he wanted to be, and he's that guy.
He's doing better than I thought he would. He is
going to he keeps his up. I'm serious.
Speaker 2: And I asked him missing my interview because he's mentioned
the same thing, and he said, I'm not a very
vocal guy. Remember it, Myers Meats. I winked at you
and said that just a few minutes ago, because what
did he tell us? I'm tired of talking. I just
want to go play. He said that He's like, I
don't want to do this anymore. I just want to play.
I'm like, wow, I've never really seen it from too
many players.
Speaker 1: His mindset is very, very good, and I think it's
helped him, and I think it's helped Chase in term
without their roommates. Yeah, no, that's a very productive best friend. Yeah,
that's a very productive thing for both of them. Chase
Roberts is I've said this before. If you're gonna ask
chat gpt'd create the perfect B way FOOTBA player, it's
gonna be Chase Roberts. It's true, destroy the way he speaks,
just everything about him, and I think Parker being able
to glob onto that. And I don't want to give
all the credit to Chase. I think Chase is benefited
from being with Parker Kingston. But it's it's just phenomenal
what those two have been able to do. So match
made in heaven and they're gonna miss both those guys,
big d P. But you might get Parking back for
next year. He's got why you have eligibility. Maybe again,
maybe he should come he should come back. He should should,
And here's why I say he should. He's emerging as
wide receiver number one. There's no doubt.
Speaker 2: I mean he's he's just thirty yards behind Chase and catching.
You like, if he gets a thousand yard season, he
would do it again. Parker will put himself in a
very good position to go to the next level.
Speaker 1: Well, the cop I gave to him and I wasn't
the only one was Dax Milne prior to the season.
He did he have that? And I'll be honest with Yeah,
I believed he had that with him, but I didn't
believe it it could come about. I was like, I
don't know if he's gonna get there. He's kind of
he's got it. I mean, Dax didn't have Chase Roberts
to still targets from next year going forward, he can
absolutely be. It's gonna be just him. Who else has
we been?
Speaker 7: Like, definitively faster than Yes, he's got stuff that Dak's
done the half Wow, he could be which But would
you would argue Dax is a better route runner or
would you argue Parker is a better rout run?
Speaker 1: I think Parker is closing on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, That's why I asked you this, Hey, what Parker
looks bro like? When I look at Parker cakes and
I said, Yo, this dude got it. Who's better in
the open field?
Speaker 1: Park Parker? Like dude, he they have to play so
far by Parker. And this is no disrespect to Chase.
Speaker 2: And the reason why I gave the motivation to Chase
was I need Chases the wide receiver won the NFL
guy to not drop the ball in big moments in
the show up. He did in the Utah game, and
I just want to see it because I knew he could.
But Chase has had those moments where you're like okay,
and he's solidified it. He doesn't have those. He's gonna
catch it now. But Parker is the guy that he
scares you like a defense. You're gonna hate that. I'm
gonna use his comparison, but I'm going to it's like
the Kansas City Chiefs guy. Who's the guy that scares you?
Parker Cason is that guy. You look at him and like, yeah,
I feel that. Do you fear Chase Roberts, But when
you see Parker come across your face, You're like, Okay,
wait a second, that's the guy that can take the
top off the defense, just like Cody Hagen Cannon. To
be honest, again, this is probably off season talk. I'm
excited to see Parker and Cody next year because I
think next year Cody is definitively the wide receiver number two.
Speaker 1: And that's what I was getting to.
Speaker 2: If you're looking for two, I receives a step up
big in this game five and if you get thirteen back,
have that opportunity to So I'm gonna be looking.
Speaker 1: They need a tight end. That's gonna be tough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tight end.
Speaker 1: I think Neat can do it. Yeah, he's great brun blocking.
Carson Rein's been so good this year, dude.
Speaker 2: He's been rock Harris Is anyway you can serve a
mission for the Church of Jesus Christ of Lattery Saints
in the Provo Utah mission, Yeah, that's gonna be.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a rougher placement anyway. But anyway, back
to the team. This year, I've been thinking about what
b WAYU team this team reminds me of, and last
year is too easy for comparison, and I've been thinking
about what I've seen from the local football scene, and
a lot of people aren't gonna like this comp just
because of who I'm gonna be comparing this team with.
They're a lot like the two thousand and eight Utah
you team, Yeah, they're not gonna If you remember that team,
they were not blowing out guys. Ever win was Liken.
This team's gonna get them. They're barely getting by TCU.
They barely got by several Mountain West opponents that year.
But it was a team that just seemed to know
how to get it done at the end of the day.
And you look at what that twenty eight team Utah
team did. It was a breakthrough team. And I don't know,
this is kind of just out of the left field.
I've been wanted to say this for a long time
and draw this comp but I remember that team extremely well.
Everyone is no, they can't keep doing this, and I
think that's exactly what people are assigning to this BAU team.
It's like, now, come on, the right team, they're going
to stop and they're getting lucky. I don't believe in
the luck component as much as other people. Sure, you
got to have things happen, but I think when you're
culturally solid, like be what you is, and when you
just had that belief. I loved Chase Roberts quote at
the end of the Iowa State game. I thought it
was the quote of the year. He says, we're Bway football.
That's what we do. We win games. We keep coming,
we keep coming, we don't go away, and we're right there.
I mean, I'm parapher. He said. It's so much better
than I did. I thought it was the quote of
the year. But that's absolutely what this team's mentality is.
And good things happen when you're committed, when you don't
give up and you just keep coming and coming coming.
It's it's been tremendous and man that it's a special team.
That's an it's a really, really really special team. What
we're seeing is is phenomenal this year, and hopefully they
can continue it. It's gonna be really tough. Texas texts
going to be tough. TCU is gonna be tough. I
think I think that's kind of the game. People are
overlooking now. It's like, not overlooking I think Cincinnati's Cinnati. Yeah, well,
I don't think anyone's overlooking that game.
Speaker 4: May well be the Big Twelve champions and it's all
said and downe and no one is talking about Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: I think people are now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now I think everyone says thinks it's just BUYU
Texas tecond that's it.
Speaker 5: I don't think people are talking about that guy.
Speaker 2: He did just lose maybe a running back, so that
potentially could when I think, yeah they do, then that
bear Cat can really defense, can really stop the run.
Speaker 1: Well the ads are I mean, if you're put on
money on two teams that are going to be appearing
in the Big Twelve championship game, it's still Texas Tech
and b WAYU.
Speaker 4: Absolutely sure Cincinnati is still undefeated in conference.
Speaker 1: I don't think Cincinnati's beating Utah this weekend. I don't
believe that's happening.
Speaker 4: See, I actually think they are because of everything we
just said. I think they have been slept on for
so long. I think this is their statement. They could
absolutely beat Utah. There's no question about that.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati beating Utah is like BAU beating Texas Tech. Game.
You know what Utah is this year, and and Utah
has a very very big advantage with that offensive front.
That's all this team is. It's offensive line. They have
the best offense.
Speaker 4: They can win the offense, they can win the line
of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 5: But outside of that, it fits pretty So if.
Speaker 1: UTAH has a decided advantage where they're just pounding guys,
that are gonna and we've seen that. But if you
have a defense that can scheme, that can measure up
and take away that component, Utah isn't in it. It's
kind of a bowld the offense. That's what you see
from Utah, that advantage where a defense can't supplement for
for the deficiency it has up front, the Utah is
gonna roll and there's nothing the opposing defense can do.
A defense can stand up to, that can measure up,
can scheme effectively. UTU is going to struggle. Everyone's all
about fickland Berg right now. It's all the offensive line.
I'm telling you guys, it's line on line on line.
So anyway, I man, I'm getting on a tangent here side.
I mean, look, I said, look at Daddy's stats are
kind of pedestrian. Defensively, they got the sixty five, sixty
fifth best total defense, seventieth best rushing defense nationally, and.
Speaker 5: It's like, really, but their offense is awesome.
Speaker 1: Their offense is very good.
Speaker 2: You're right on the defense, but like you, they's but
I see.
Speaker 1: The potential that Utah's offensive line is going to roll
that front. That's totally fair. And Utah's defense is very good. Agreed,
very good, and that's why I have seen them carved up.
I don't like Cincinnati in this game. I'm just gonna say,
maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: Especially especially after running back. We're gonna find out very quickly. No,
you said, Tangent. I mean, I think we're about thirty
five minutes into the segment and I didn't even get
to the nitty gritty yet we finish the starting lineup. Sorry,
I've been all over the No, that's okay, but you
need to give your thoughts, and I think everything you
said has been valid, especially during the bye week.
Speaker 1: I think fans feel the same way. I think everybody doesn't.
Right now.
Speaker 2: This is what I mentioned. I gave what I think BA.
You finished the season as I think they'll finish eleven
and two. I think they they Killani. Will them overcome
and be in the title game. I think he's not
gonna allow it. I do think that this conference is
still up for grass though there's still a lot. There's
too many, there's too many games. There's four games bo
verse the last fall. I'm still in Houston still in it,
like people have said Houston could be in it.
Speaker 1: So you think Houston's a paper Tiger. I don't agree
with that.
Speaker 2: Well, I think I think it's the schedule that they
play it, that's why they feel that.
Speaker 1: No, I agree with that. I I don't believe Houston's
as good as Cincinnati. I don't believe right definitely now
as good as to be where you are Texas, Texas.
They're probably not even as good as Utah, but I
think they're they're as salting. I agree they're good.
Speaker 2: Utah is in the same situation at by Ways in
last year, just a little bit earlier. They don't control
their own destiny and they need some help, and that's
why this game is so critical for them. And I
could see them going out and can I be honest,
I could see them beating in Cincinnati like forty one
to seventeen, and I could see that happening because their
backs are against the wall if they lose this game.
And I've been declared of about this, if you have
three losses, you're knocked out of the Big Twelve title game.
If you're Iowa State, you're not going I mean, seriously,
I don't think if you have three losses, Arizona State's
not going Sam Levitz out for the rest of the year, right,
So he's done. He's just you can't afford in this
conference to have three losses yet alone half two sure one,
So yeah, so I think boa he does control that.
But the rest of the start lineup, we'll get to.
Kelly vingis out later. Our apologies. We're gonna get into
a little insider report in the next hour. We're also
going to discuss Crudel the Cougar's a by you commit
is decommitted.
Speaker 1: He's gone elsewhere.
Speaker 2: Breading myself will discuss that as Gmail will just be
here for the first hour. Darneld Dixon will join us.
He will join us in the four oh five segment.
Get into some Kelly Papinka sound later because we can't
get into it right now. We'll also have Dave mccannon
join us in the five oh five segment and then
Brian Logan in the five point thirty to close out
the show and a little keeping up with the Cougars.
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a chance to make the big to a title game.
But the schedule is like I don't want to say
boo boo, but it's easy. They got West Virginia at
the Crip. They're gonna win them. That's a guaranteed win.
It's a guaranteed win. Then they go to UC if
they could lose that one, but their defense is nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that could be interesting. That could be interesting. But
the last two I don't think are gimmes. I think
people know this. THO, TCU and Baylor. Yeah, Robinson is
a problem. Those are good teams.
Speaker 4: I almost feel like Baylor's what Kansas was last year,
a little bit more like they can score a lot
of points and like they can win any game on
their schedule, but they'll probably be around five hundred.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be honest.
Speaker 2: The Kansas team of last year that's going to ruin
somebody's big twalk title game or college football championship moment
this year is going to be Kansas State, Like Texas
Tech State's coming on, Like Kansas State might mess around
and they're gonna be a Texas tect mark. Dude, they'll
say this, and I'll get your thoughts. If Kansas State
based Texas Tech guarantee lost for BYU Red Raiders, not
losing two back to back.
Speaker 1: Bro, Well, you just hope Kansas State beats up Texas Tech.
Speaker 2: Pretty well, I just need them to hit Baron Morton,
That's all I need. But the third Street looked like
he was balling with will ham't went out. They just
got quarterbacks to Day's bro down there in Texas Tech
allocating that money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kansas State's interesting. Everyone thought Kansas State was going
to be a team this year. The hype was.
Speaker 5: Playing in Ireland.
Speaker 1: What it is you play in Ireland?
Speaker 4: Look at Florida State when they played in Ireland. Like,
if you play in Ireland, so bad you get a
rough year? Just saying, yeah, it's been Florida And can
we be honest.
Speaker 2: Even Iowa State too, lose both of your top dbs
b YU beats you two and three in conference play,
like like that's that's not normal for Matt Campbell's team.
Normally they're at the top. Now, they could run the table.
They have a very favorable schedule. They're gonna win tomorrow,
I believe, you know. But it's the curse of Ireland.
So Bretta said, it don't go to Ireland by you.
The parody in this conference is just ridiculous, and we
see it every year. But it's absolutely amazing just how
evenly matched so many big hole teams are. No one
has a really big distinct advantage, like even Texas Tech.
Speaker 1: We're talking about Kansas State. Kansas State could give them something.
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gotta keep that music going. It's a Halloween edition of
Cougar Sports, and it worth the Thriller.
Speaker 1: I had to go with the Michael Jackson the goat
along with Prince up there.
Speaker 2: Okay, see Brett doing it? Okay, g Man, not intrigued
at all. Party usual Thriller is the band of the day.
You like Michael Jackson all right.
Speaker 1: When I was a kid in elementary school, Michael Jackson was.
I think he's the biggest musical artist I've ever seen.
I mean, people think Taylor Swift's big right now. Nah,
Michael Jackson when he was at his prime when that
Thriller album came out, and I'm old enough to remember
when it did come out, I don't think I've seen
anything bigger. Everybody everybody loved the Michael Jackson. You also
didn't have social media at the time to quantify a
lot of like what war was been, but everyone was
listening to it. I saw that Billy Jean video on MTV.
I don't know, two hundred times over. It was just
just the way it just gripped. It was just tremendous.
I yeah, and yeah, I love the Michael Jackson. Yeah,
his music's iconic. There there, there's there's been nothing like him.
There will never be anything like him. You're not wrong
speaking of Michael Jackson. Halloween.
Speaker 2: Let's go this for our little question of our Halloween
question of day candy question that Gmail. We haven't asked
you this kind of us of all pontificate of it
this week, yesterday, earlier. We're gonna do it again today.
What's your favorite Halloween candy? What traditions does the Gurney
family have? What are you doing today?
Speaker 1: I like the sour anything sour, I'm down with it
doesn't matter what it is. Sour heads, but one, Warheads
a little too much too much of a little too much, right,
It's just like they're trying to be too cute and
just no, I Warheads, No, don't give me that anything else.
Our I'm I'm absolutely with I. I like the Snickers.
Okay to meers, it's a perfect candy bar. So I'm
going chocolate. I'm going Snickers, peanuts. I mean, it's a
perfect and then the Sarah Can That's what I'm stealing
from my nieces and nephews. That's what I'll be going
for him. So there you go.
Speaker 2: You're gonna steal uh the Snickers from them? What about
milk DUTs, you big friend of the milk duves? Okay, okay, okay,
so that's.
Speaker 1: Why you throw it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we had this whole bag of candy the house
that said, all.
Speaker 1: Right, what do you what you gotta do with the milk?
Does is you gotta put a lot in your mouth
at the same time and just make a big claw
right that you just saw con and gnaw on.
Speaker 5: For a long time, I thought you're gonna say poor
and milk and then eat it like cereal.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought you're gonna go. I've never thought
of that, but that sounds tremendous. That's why we're here.
We're still here.
Speaker 2: That's why the young guys help man, we got you. Yeah,
you thought about there. Let me give this to you
a little milk before the show. Because people like milk duds.
Bray gave me a think of milk duds before the
show started through him then but then he makes a face.
No Snickers is a good take. We need to put
this question out there, Brett, to see people like, what's
your Halloween candy? Halloween question of the day, Twigs KitKat?
Speaker 1: What do you like?
Speaker 2: What does Cougar Nation like? I want to know it's
the candy of choice for you tonight. Now again, my sister,
because you know we got a little sickness going on
the Weaver household. Sister will be taking care of the
trick or treating duties tonight, even though Jersey can't eat anything.
But I'm a I like the Snickers that we used
to get younger. I also was a big fan when
we got the mini kit cats and many butterfingers. Excuse
me anything many I'm okay with as I've gotten older,
because I have that as a kid.
Speaker 1: The full bar.
Speaker 2: I just can't do it anymore. My wife gets mad
at me because I'll go buy the mini bag and
I just want to snack on the mini ones. A
full bar is just too much. But I remember there
was one house on our street in particular and not
street apartment complex. She would just give out full bars
a candy, and I'm like, I don't want that. But
do you like Hershe's who's a big Hershey? The consensus here,
g man, and tell me if you agree. Brett, excuse me,
Brett vic Sean all talked about Reese's peanut butter cups.
Apparently I've been missing out, maybe as well as Ben.
But people like the dark chocolate or the regular Recee
peanut butter cups.
Speaker 1: I like a peanut butter cup. It's good stuff. I
nothing wrong with that. To me, peanut butter chocolate is
the ultimate combination anything. Peanut butter chocolate I'm down with.
Speaker 4: Agreed the one I realized that. So I don't really
like to eat candy because like just too much sugar
at once. I just I don't know, I man, I look,
I know I'm getting too old. I hate that those
words have come out of my mouth because I miss
the days I could have six bowls of fruity pebbles NonStop.
Unfortunately that's not I can't drink soda anymore. I can't
do any of that stuff, so I can't do anything
as much. So this is good for your health. Well,
I know, but but I want to do the stuff
that's bad for my health. My body just won't allow me.
The one I remember that I love and again I
can't eat it too much because it's too much sugar.
Speaker 1: Skittles gummies.
Speaker 4: I used to love Skittles as a kid, and then
they made Skittles gummies and I try to bag at
my brother in law's Lehigh lacrosse game a couple of
years ago and ever since then.
Speaker 1: Like, if I need a bag of candy, give me
some Skittles gummies. Skittles gummies is the way to go. Okay,
we talked a little bit of candy. Wanted to get that.
Have that out there for people. Tell me what yours is.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, I've had people already tweet out me about
Texas Tech and Houston and b AU Basketball. Tweet at me.
I'm okay with it. Brett is putting the question out
right now on Ben's page. Go ahead and let me know.
Tweet at me what is your favorite candy? I'm totally okay.
Or Brett just tag me in the post. I want
to see what these responses are or what you guys
like of what people will go with I'm gonna go
more butterfinger tonight. I'm okay with a sneak or the
kick Kat of the Twigs are the mini crunchbar. I'm
okay with all of those. Let's go football questions, g man,
before we wrap up this second man and the rest
of this hour, and then we have to let you go.
Biggest thing to the bo he needs to do during
the bye week outside of health. Everybody's gonna say get healthy.
It's low hanging fruit and it's obviously on the table.
But outside of health, what's the biggest thing bo he
needs to focus on during the bye week going into
Texas Tech next week?
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm gonna stay with the offensive line. Okay,
that offensive line needs to show progress. I think with
a week off they can address maybe some issues. They
weren't that great against Iowa State. I thought they were
really good against Utah. I thought that I thought it
was the best game of the year relative to what
what it was facing against Utah. I thought the offensive
line was tremendous. I thought they took it maybe a
step backwards against Iowa Stated and it was probably just
a product of being dinged up with Iowa state able
to formulate some things to get a really good job Blitzenbar,
Iowa State two.
Speaker 2: That they did.
Speaker 1: But but I look for a lot of progress from
this offensive line. And I'm not being as specific as
I want to in this regard, but but to me,
that's the one thing that has to be good. They
have to be phenomenal against Texas Tech. That that it's
going to be the toughest test they've had all year,
all year. That Texas Tech front is tremendous, and that
offensive line has to be better. It has to be better.
It has to stand up like it did against Utah.
The interior line was fantastic against Utah. The edges, yeah
you can, because I mean it's relative to you strengths,
which are are the defensive ends. But the interior kind
of dominated you test front. And if they can do
that against Texas Tech, or at least just counteract how
tremendous those Texas Tech defensive tackles are, it's gonna go
a long way to secure in the win. We haven't
given enough love to Sonny Macasini. He's been fantastically here.
Call us the four choke sarchok I said it right,
stop it he's been very very good. All the interior
guys have been tremendous. They've been really really good. And
I don't think we've given enough flowers to these guys
because they've been very good.
Speaker 2: Remind you these are transfers. Uh, you know that that
came Lee Hunter, David Bailey, Romeo Height, A J. Holmes
and Skyler, Gil Howard. Skyler, Gil Howard and David Bailey.
You need to look out for those guys. They go
be coming for sure, Brett. Your biggest thing for me
to focus on during the buy outside of health, it's.
Speaker 5: Gotta be the running back round.
Speaker 4: I know I would say it probably every day, and
I'm sure so sick of me talking about it, but
I've been saying it forever, Like you got to figure
out what the option is. If it's not LG Martin,
release logan pain, release the pain Logan, Hey, get lucky
with my guy Lucky Fena, let him carry the ball.
And maybe the answer is we don't need to run
the ball. Maybe the answer is we're going to become
a drop back pass team. I don't think that's the case,
because a Rod said in Coordinator's quarter Monday, everything we do,
even the play action pass game is centered around what
we do with LJ.
Speaker 5: Was so n Ie need to figure out, like, what's
the one two punch?
Speaker 1: Now? What is the go to?
Speaker 4: What's the identity of this offense if it's not LJ
Martin or is it We've just been saving Preston Rex
this whole time. We haven't let him showcase his full abilities.
But against Texas dech he's going to. If that's the answer, awesome,
But that's my biggest question. My biggest focus is what
is the game look like if LJ is not part
of it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, all of these are good points, good questions. I'll
go with this.
Speaker 2: It's kind of piggybacking off yours. But now with the
running back. If LJ can't go, or even if he can,
what other offensive weapons can you add to the pass game?
Because you've shown that you could throw the football. And
I'm gonna ask your counterpart in the five o'clock hour,
excuse me, four o'clock hour, Darnel Dixon, about this the
narrative about a true freshman throwing the football because oh
make him throw. Well, Bear's done that. He did it
against Utah, he did it on the road against Aowa state,
so that notion's gone now. In my opinion, I'll ask
double is he's the expert, He's been doing this a while,
but Canny is so Jojo Phillips gonna be back?
Speaker 1: Can Cody Hagen get a part of this game?
Speaker 2: You talk about the defensive line journey for Texas tackas phenomena,
which they are. They got a lot of speed by
you guys, a lot of speed, So how can you
do that? We haven't seen the Tornado reverse in a while.
Is this the game that he gets that they bring
it back? It's still little playbook. Remember a rod set
on coordinator's corner they had to go and bring back
in place that they had for.
Speaker 1: Other games, other game plans.
Speaker 2: Is this the game where you bring back in a
few of the things that you throw in a few
wrinkles that Texas Tech might not be prepared for.
Speaker 1: I think you have to.
Speaker 2: This is your biggest road test of the year against
a big opponent that that stadium is gonna be rocking
at ten am, and Bio he hasn't played in the
morning game, So I think you have to. Everything's on
the table one hundred percent, it always is, So how
do they incorporate Cody Hagen.
Speaker 1: If Joe Siah Phillips comes back, how do you incorporate him.
Speaker 2: I think what you want to do is give Bear
as many options as possible, whether LJ goes or not.
You want to have everybody available. Logan Pain, you want
to have Prest and Rex. You want to have all
of those guys available to go enicknaw Hey way. Everybody
has to be prepared to get their number called in
this moment. This reminds me of BYU Houston basketball later
in the season. I'm gonna connect it for you. Hold on,
you might play eleven guys in that game. Why because
one guy might have to play for three minutes to
take this guy defensively. It might be a defensive matchup.
Prepare for Bear to have multiple receivers to throw to eight, nine,
ten guys. You want to give him as much of
an outlet to take a much off of his shoulders,
even though you want to give him or in that case,
because this is the biggest role test with the best
defensive line in my opinion, that you're going to see
probably all year unless you go to the Big TOO
Title and see him again, or the college football.
Speaker 1: Playoff if we were to get there, So we'll see.
That's mine.
Speaker 2: How do you incorporate better weapons in the offensive game
for Bear come next week, because hey, Texas Tech is
gonna lay it on. They're gonna come out rolling, especially
if they don't win tomorrow, which I think they will.
But even then, they know that they also control their
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