WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:47.640 Oh Medal, that's are hello, and welcome to the show. 2 00:00:47.880 --> 00:00:52.000 This is the Cult of Conspiracy and I am the 3 00:00:52.039 --> 00:00:56.759 Cajun Night amraving the metamistic baby. And today is a 4 00:00:56.920 --> 00:01:02.079 very special day. We have breached the four digit mark. 5 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:11.200 This is episode one thousand. Good cult members. Yo, this 6 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:14.239 is actually kind of a serendipitous thing. This is this 7 00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:16.439 is the next level thing. Jonathan. When you and I 8 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:20.159 started this podcast, well you started this podcast with hat 9 00:01:20.280 --> 00:01:23.719 in twenty twenty as a almost. 10 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:27.159 A joke, right cut today, it was a joke. 11 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:30.519 It was more of a curiosity and wanting to just 12 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:32.799 have an extra hobby outside of work all day. 13 00:01:32.840 --> 00:01:35.959 But yeah, right then cut to I get involved in 14 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:38.920 August of twenty twenty, and I think we were on 15 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:44.879 episode fifty something fifty or sixty something like that, something early, 16 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:48.760 and we're thinking. I remember us having conversations of like, well, 17 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:50.959 how big do you think this is gonna get? Like 18 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:53.319 how to what level are we going with this? And 19 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:57.840 I remember thinking like, sky's a limit. Fuck it, right 20 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:00.760 that there is no there's no limit other than what 21 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:03.040 we put on ourselves. And you were like, bro, hold 22 00:02:03.079 --> 00:02:05.560 on now, and I'm like, fuck it, let's just go 23 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:10.840 let's just send it and see what happens. Now, as 24 00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:14.960 we are crossing over that threshold of episode one thousand, 25 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:17.639 there is not many podcasts that have put out one 26 00:02:17.639 --> 00:02:21.080 thousand episodes. And by episodes, we are not talking about 27 00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:23.800 some fifteen minute chit chat. We're not talking about no 28 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:27.439 thirty minutes. We're talking like our average episode is about 29 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:30.120 two and a half hours long and putting out the 30 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:30.639 level we do. 31 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:32.439 Brother, this is not a small feat. 32 00:02:33.039 --> 00:02:37.759 Oh, It's monumental for sure, and it's something that has lasted, 33 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:41.400 which I think speaks to, first of all, the amount 34 00:02:41.439 --> 00:02:43.560 of craziness that has gone on in the world and 35 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:46.360 will continue to go on in the world. Yes, and secondly, 36 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:52.840 are never rending thirst for absolute truth? And without either 37 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:55.919 one of those, the show would, you know, just kind 38 00:02:55.919 --> 00:02:56.599 of fade out. 39 00:02:56.680 --> 00:03:01.000 But it can't and it won't and it must go on. Agree, agreed, 40 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:04.840 And so you know we're at this point now. We 41 00:03:04.960 --> 00:03:09.080 have gone through a transition as far as our program 42 00:03:09.199 --> 00:03:13.199 is concerned. A lot of people have been questioning where 43 00:03:13.199 --> 00:03:16.199 you've been and what happened and all these things. I 44 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:18.439 just went TikTok live the other day. Raven Lee came 45 00:03:18.479 --> 00:03:20.719 in for a little bit. You came in for a 46 00:03:20.719 --> 00:03:22.840 little bit, and it's like these people are like, bro, 47 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:26.000 is there bad blood between y'all. I don't know where 48 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:29.120 these people get these assumptions from. They just be assuming 49 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:30.000 out here. 50 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:35.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, you kind of people will 51 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:37.360 make up their own story. But I mean I will say, 52 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:40.599 like it's it seems like it would be crazy something 53 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:44.159 crazy that why would I ever not want to do 54 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:48.439 the cult anymore? And you know, people grow, thoughts evolve. 55 00:03:48.360 --> 00:03:53.719 And there are there are new frontiers to be explored. 56 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:58.400 And my thing is is that I've always said that, like, well, 57 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:01.960 ever since, ever since this more recent kind of endeavor 58 00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:07.680 that you know, I conspiracies are there to shatter your illusions. Yeah, 59 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:10.439 like your illusion of the world. That's what conspiracies are 60 00:04:10.439 --> 00:04:13.039 there for. But once your illusions are shattered, where do 61 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:16.120 you go next? Do you continue and keep on trying 62 00:04:16.120 --> 00:04:19.439 to find more proof that this is all one giant illusion? 63 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:23.000 Or do you discover what is beyond that illusion? And 64 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:25.879 that is what I have been trying to do with metamistics. 65 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:26.959 That's just my own way. 66 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:30.720 Not everybody has the same exact way, right where However, 67 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:33.000 many billions of people they say that are in the world. 68 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:37.199 We're all kind of searching for answers. And that's just 69 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:40.360 the route that I decided to take, agreed, And nothing's 70 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:40.959 wrong with that. 71 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:43.759 And so I've had to tell so many people like, no, No, 72 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:47.480 Jonathan is looking more into the gnostic and esoteric and 73 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:53.439 occult side of things. His heart isn't in conspiratorial conversation anymore. 74 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:58.199 Sometimes the conversation of conspiracies go towards the esoteric and 75 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:01.120 the occult. That happens naturally from time the time. But 76 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:05.240 you were being drawn in another direction and you were 77 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:08.120 getting kind of burned out on the conspiracy conversation. For 78 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:10.759 the record, nothing's wrong with that. Nothing is wrong with 79 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:14.600 being like, look, I I'm kind of tired, fuck tire boss, 80 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:18.319 I get it, you know. And so you decided to 81 00:05:18.360 --> 00:05:21.439 split off and do metamistics full time and you are 82 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:27.360 growing that into its own, happy, healthy, growing individual, if 83 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:27.759 you will. 84 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:29.639 Yeah, And I will say it's one of the best 85 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:32.759 decisions that I feel like I could have made on 86 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:36.519 a personal level. Yeah, because my understanding just in these 87 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:38.519 couple of months of being able to put all my 88 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:42.160 focus and all my you know, all my energy into 89 00:05:42.279 --> 00:05:45.519 that has really allowed me to dive both feed in 90 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:48.959 and garner a much better understanding now than I did 91 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:51.680 even just two months ago, because you think about it, 92 00:05:51.959 --> 00:05:55.040 you know, your your mind. Most people they go to 93 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:57.360 work and then they come home, they got their family, 94 00:05:57.519 --> 00:06:00.120 They do their chores and do whatever you do, and 95 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:02.000 then it's bedtime and then you start all over again. 96 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:04.879 You almost feel like you're living two lives whenever that's 97 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:07.519 going on, because most of the time, people that work 98 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:11.199 see their co workers more than their own family, right, 99 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:14.000 And you're gonna act one way around your co workers 100 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:17.040 and then obviously probably not exactly the same way around 101 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:19.120 your family. You know, you're gonna be loving, You're gonna 102 00:06:19.160 --> 00:06:20.480 be sincere, you're gonna be caring. 103 00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:21.920 Most of the time. 104 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:25.000 Your co workers are like, you're there to earn a buck, dude. 105 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:27.319 You know, like you might give your two cents and 106 00:06:27.319 --> 00:06:29.680 say I'm sorry if something bad happens or whatever, but 107 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:31.560 you know your heart isn't all the way in it. 108 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:34.560 So I feel like you're living almost in two different worlds. 109 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:37.120 And that was what I was feeling with the Conspiracies, 110 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:42.160 is that my mind was almost splintered that on one show, 111 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:44.920 I'm looking for everything that's wrong in the world, and 112 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:47.040 on the other show, I'm looking for everything that's. 113 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:47.439 Right with it. 114 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:50.040 And you know, it was kind of a splintering in 115 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:54.079 my mind. And I think both are very very important. 116 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:55.279 There's no doubt about it. 117 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:58.439 You need both. There has to be black and white, 118 00:06:58.600 --> 00:06:59.480 you know, there has to be. 119 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:03.759 Good and evil, and so yeah, I just decided to 120 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:05.720 go all the way into the woo woo end. 121 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:08.399 As some cult members might think, there you go. 122 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:11.800 And then we went for months trying to think of 123 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:14.360 who would be the best co host, and Raven Lee 124 00:07:14.839 --> 00:07:17.639 was the obvious choice. And she has absolutely stepped up 125 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:21.199 to the plate. I mean, a raven You were very 126 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:25.040 conspiratorial minded for years and years, right, Jonathan and I 127 00:07:25.079 --> 00:07:28.120 have been friends of yours for years, and you've very 128 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:31.879 much been in the conversation from a different perspective, of course, 129 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:35.120 but that's a good thing in my opinion. And you 130 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:36.879 have picked up the ball and ran with it. And 131 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:39.720 I mean, in the short time that you have been 132 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:43.920 a full on host of the Cult of Conspiracy here 133 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:48.000 would you say that your understanding of the world has deepened, 134 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:50.480 it's been more solidified, it's been altered. 135 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:51.480 Where are you at? 136 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:56.839 I would say that I've learned a good bit so 137 00:07:57.000 --> 00:08:01.319 far about things that I had knowledge on, but not 138 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:06.000 as much knowledge on so as I've been diving more 139 00:08:06.040 --> 00:08:08.240 into things, and I've learned a lot about other things 140 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:10.120 that I had no idea about. I mean, I might 141 00:08:10.120 --> 00:08:12.439 have heard about a term here or there, but I 142 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:15.800 didn't really put forth a lot of effort into learning 143 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:18.959 about it. So it's been an interesting journey so far 144 00:08:19.160 --> 00:08:24.879 of learning things, finding that balance of still reading about 145 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:27.279 all of this stuff and not letting it consume you. 146 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:30.079 Because like when she especially with the whole Epstein file 147 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:36.360 dump yesterday or two days ago, now you know, it's 148 00:08:36.639 --> 00:08:40.840 it's pretty intense the rabbit holes that have sprung from that, 149 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:44.360 And I mean, we all knew anyways, but then when 150 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:47.120 you start finding out more and more and more and more. 151 00:08:47.480 --> 00:08:50.120 I have, like, no joke, forty five tabs open right 152 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:54.320 now from just like six different talking points that have 153 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:56.600 led into all sorts of things that have tied into 154 00:08:56.639 --> 00:08:59.519 things that I didn't even know about. And it's just 155 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:03.480 like the rabbit hole is never ending, and finding that 156 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:06.039 balance is always going to be an interesting thing for everybody, 157 00:09:06.120 --> 00:09:08.879 I think, because we all knew that it was bad 158 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:13.320 and really bad. But now it's even more intertwined, and 159 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:15.639 it's you know, it's it's almost to the point where 160 00:09:15.639 --> 00:09:20.279 it's like, man, you know, nothing is real and everything 161 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:22.799 is an illusion. And at this point, I'm ready to 162 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:25.279 just wipe the slate clean of all of it and 163 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:28.799 just you know, figure out, go to a farm and 164 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:31.399 just live my life on a farm. But I know 165 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:35.559 I've I've definitely learned a lot. I've met a lot 166 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:38.559 of amazing people so far. I talked to a lot 167 00:09:38.559 --> 00:09:40.919 of the cult members almost daily. 168 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:42.960 Actually, I talked to quite a few. 169 00:09:42.759 --> 00:09:46.000 Of them on different social media platforms and stuff, and 170 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:49.240 so it's been really cool to develop more of a community, 171 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:53.440 hear different people's perspectives, and just kind of dive more 172 00:09:53.519 --> 00:09:56.879 deeper into trying to understand the world around us and 173 00:09:57.480 --> 00:10:02.000 what to do from there, I guess, but I understand 174 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:05.080 where Jonathan's coming from, because it gets kind of dark 175 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:09.960 here and it's hard to shift, you know, sift through 176 00:10:09.960 --> 00:10:12.679 all the crap and figure out exactly how you want 177 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:15.080 to move forward in life. When everything seems like it's 178 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:17.120 in a big illusion, you're kind of trapped in it. 179 00:10:17.320 --> 00:10:20.519 So it gets pretty heavy. But I understand why he 180 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:23.120 went woo woo and stuff. But that's you know, I 181 00:10:23.159 --> 00:10:25.759 think it's a balance that we all have to learn 182 00:10:27.039 --> 00:10:30.720 when you're in the conspiracy community. So yeah, I've enjoyed 183 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:33.679 it thus far. I've learned a lot. I keep learning 184 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:35.519 a lot, and I swear to God every day they're 185 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:37.799 doing more crazy bullshit that it's like. 186 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:41.159 They are though that's not a crazy thought. They keep 187 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:41.879 doing shit. 188 00:10:42.440 --> 00:10:45.480 Okay, So two random super side notes, so that, but 189 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:48.320 it had been like just consuming me all day. 190 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:51.720 So the Borderlands. I don't play a lot of video games. 191 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:53.279 We all know this. I'm not a big gamer. 192 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:56.080 There are certain games that I actually really obsess over, 193 00:10:56.200 --> 00:10:58.440 and Bortolands happens to be one of them. So I 194 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:00.639 bought the big package when it came out, the Borlins 195 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:02.679 four last year when it came out, and I haven't 196 00:11:02.679 --> 00:11:05.279 really had an actual moment to sit down and play 197 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:08.200 until today. And so me and my middle child sat 198 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:12.639 and played pretty much all day. And what's interesting is 199 00:11:12.639 --> 00:11:15.639 one of my characters, my character, I kept pushing a 200 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:17.960 button because, like they a lot of stuff has changed, 201 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:21.720 and I noticed it was injecting him like himself with stuff. 202 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:23.240 And I didn't pay attention. 203 00:11:23.320 --> 00:11:24.799 At first, I did it a few times and then 204 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:26.840 I saw it popped up on the screen. Do you 205 00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:29.840 want to know what he was injecting himself with adernochrome? 206 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:34.559 Yep? I was joking, Holy fuck, yep, I'm not even kidding. 207 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:35.600 It's sice. 208 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:39.080 You can yeah, you can YouTube it and it actually 209 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:42.120 says adrenochrome right there. And I was like, you have 210 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:44.679 got to be fucking kidding me, because there's a lot 211 00:11:44.679 --> 00:11:47.320 of symbolism already in Borland's like, if you know what 212 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:49.840 to look for, there's a lot of symbolisms on the wall, 213 00:11:49.919 --> 00:11:52.000 and there's like walls of things and all. 214 00:11:51.879 --> 00:11:54.200 Sorts of stuff. I could not believe it. 215 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:56.720 So that was the first thing I was like, what 216 00:11:57.440 --> 00:12:00.720 last night I put on Megan two point zero. I've 217 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:03.159 never seen the first Megan movie, and I just happened 218 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:05.279 to be like, you know, let me just put it 219 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:07.720 on whatever. I just have it in the background. The 220 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:10.320 little bits I paid attention to the first forty five 221 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:16.559 minutes of the movie is identical almost to what Elon 222 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:19.320 just talked about at the World Economic Form. 223 00:12:19.519 --> 00:12:21.399 Yeah, and the movie came. 224 00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:24.159 First, by the way, Yeah, we're all wondering that. So 225 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:28.639 his entire talking points and what him and Bill Gates 226 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:32.679 and Zuckerberg are talking about doing with the wanting to 227 00:12:32.679 --> 00:12:34.600 put the chip on you and stuff, you know, the 228 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:37.919 AI sinking to be able to sink to your phone 229 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:38.759 and all this stuff. 230 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:43.080 The bad guy, you know in the movie, he has one. 231 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:45.120 He has a has a thing in the back of 232 00:12:45.159 --> 00:12:46.759 his neck to help him stand up and do all 233 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:48.840 this stuff with AI. But he also has the chip 234 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:51.440 right here and he you know, uses it to make 235 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:54.080 phone calls. And the way that some of the language 236 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:56.159 that they were using, just in the little bit of 237 00:12:56.279 --> 00:13:00.840 time I watched it is almost eerily identical everything that's 238 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:05.000 being said by Elon, by Gates and everybody else when 239 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:07.840 it comes to the frontier and pioneering of AI. 240 00:13:08.159 --> 00:13:10.720 Yeah, I just those two things. 241 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:13.799 And I watched Greenland too last night too, So like 242 00:13:14.799 --> 00:13:18.720 Man Full Circle, just Conspiracy World happening in the last 243 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:20.840 like twelve hours, I feel like, or twenty four hours. 244 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:24.600 So and that's the thing. It's in plane sight. Everybody 245 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:29.039 can watch these movies. Everybody can see these sources. Everybody 246 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:31.240 can look at the attacks that are about to go 247 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:34.960 down and ran and see what's happening. But it takes 248 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:37.480 a certain perspective shift for you to be able to 249 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:40.120 look at it in the and I use this term 250 00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:44.080 very loosely in the conspiratorial way, to look at the 251 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:47.000 big picture and be like, huh, now, that's very similar 252 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:49.679 to something that happened a few decades ago or a 253 00:13:49.720 --> 00:13:54.279 century ago, and it's it's it all ties together, it 254 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:57.360 really does. And that's the other side of this, right, 255 00:13:57.440 --> 00:14:00.000 And if you want to take it to an occult level, 256 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:03.159 to a spiritual level, to a religious level, to whatever, 257 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:07.399 it doesn't matter it. The global elites are playing by 258 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:10.960 a certain playbook. That's not a hot take. That's a 259 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:15.320 mathematical guarantee at this point. And it's only once you 260 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:18.399 start looking at things through that lens that you actually 261 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:23.919 see it. Because realistically, Raven fifteen years ago, if that 262 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:26.320 movie would have come out and you would have watched it, 263 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:29.200 the Robot what was it called Anika. 264 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:31.759 No, it's called Megan two point oh, Megan. 265 00:14:31.480 --> 00:14:31.919 Two point oh. 266 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:34.320 If that movie would have come out fifteen years ago, 267 00:14:34.559 --> 00:14:36.759 would you have taken it like, oh shit, we're there 268 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:38.360 right now, or would you have taken it like the 269 00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:39.919 Will Smith I Robot movie? 270 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:40.799 Real talk? 271 00:14:42.039 --> 00:14:44.759 Okay, So that's AI is one of those things. Though 272 00:14:44.759 --> 00:14:46.919 you can't really ask me if I would take it, 273 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:49.320 because I definitely have been this way since I was 274 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:52.799 a kid when it comes to technology. A AI, so 275 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:55.639 like Terminator really did the number on me, and. 276 00:14:55.559 --> 00:14:57.879 Then Terminator fucked a lot of us up real shit. 277 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:01.039 No, yeah, like, watch it all the time. 278 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:02.840 It was one of my dad's favorite movies, so I 279 00:15:02.879 --> 00:15:06.639 watched it pretty consistently, and then I watched you know, 280 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:08.919 my parents were super big into movies and stuff, so 281 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:12.039 I watched a lot of old movies and the newer 282 00:15:12.080 --> 00:15:15.720 movies all about AI and computers. And I've always been, 283 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:19.440 since a child, pretty not on board when it came 284 00:15:19.480 --> 00:15:23.080 to technology, and that's just I've always felt like it's 285 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:25.080 going to be the end all be all of all 286 00:15:25.080 --> 00:15:29.120 of us. And so, yeah, the Maigan conversation, but like Greenland, 287 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:32.120 that was an interesting one. So the second one isn't 288 00:15:32.159 --> 00:15:35.440 really conspiratorial, and I didn't see really anything that was 289 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:39.240 super conspiratorial. The first one was more or less you know, 290 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:43.039 talking about Greenland and stuff like that. But yeah, no, 291 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:45.600 it's it's one of those things of once you start 292 00:15:45.919 --> 00:15:48.559 recognizing things and you start seeing. 293 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:50.000 Them more and more and more, Like there is a 294 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:50.600 person that just. 295 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:53.600 Went to Disney, that went the Disney World, I think, 296 00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:57.039 and they took a video of one of the rides, 297 00:15:57.279 --> 00:15:59.840 and in the ride itself, it had a whole bunch 298 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:05.440 of pedophilic symbolism throughout the entire ride, like hidden in 299 00:16:05.559 --> 00:16:09.320 certain places. And you know, people ride this ride every 300 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:12.039 single day, but it takes somebody that is seeing all 301 00:16:12.080 --> 00:16:14.879 of this and that understands that, like, Okay, you know 302 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:19.759 these things are actually intentionally done, and so I get 303 00:16:19.759 --> 00:16:22.519 what you're saying. It's just it's wild to me. Everything's 304 00:16:22.519 --> 00:16:25.399 in plane sight. Every single fucking thing possible is in 305 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:28.039 plain sight. And they don't even care anymore, Like they 306 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:29.600 just they haven't cared for. 307 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:30.240 A long time. 308 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:34.279 And I think this whole Epstein file dump is really 309 00:16:35.080 --> 00:16:40.039 shaking the entire globe, honestly, because people The problem is 310 00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:43.639 is that I've been struggling. I've actually gone through hundreds 311 00:16:43.639 --> 00:16:47.960 of files already trying to find what everyone's looking for. 312 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:49.960 I've looked up all the different file numbers. 313 00:16:49.960 --> 00:16:50.440 They're gone. 314 00:16:50.960 --> 00:16:51.159 Yeah. 315 00:16:51.679 --> 00:16:53.600 So according to a lot. 316 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:56.000 Of the people that I've watched, they're saying that the 317 00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:59.000 DOJ released it and then deleted it, and that some 318 00:16:59.039 --> 00:17:00.799 of the people were right on it waiting it for 319 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:03.320 it to happen, and we're able to download it. I'm 320 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:06.680 struggling to find the actual one. So but they hold 321 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:07.240 that a story. 322 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:10.039 But they released it though they did what they said 323 00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:11.960 they were going to do. Now, whether you can or 324 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:14.480 can't find the files, that's a u problem. The DOJ 325 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:16.359 did their job and released it. 326 00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:19.680 To your point, it is be able to find it 327 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:21.000 on the way back machine. 328 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:23.480 If it was one I'm trying. I went to the 329 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:28.720 archive of the archive dot org one where this one 330 00:17:28.839 --> 00:17:31.880 guy that has like copies of everything. I actually did 331 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:36.319 download a lot of the copies from people's instagram. Actually 332 00:17:36.359 --> 00:17:38.480 you can actually download the copies if you click on 333 00:17:38.519 --> 00:17:41.119 it right. So I downloaded and printed out a lot 334 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:43.440 of the files that I could find from other people. 335 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:47.599 I can't find the original sources, so that's really hard 336 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:50.039 because there is a lot of AI stuff going around 337 00:17:50.079 --> 00:17:53.680 with that right now. There's there's so many rabbit holes, 338 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:56.079 so trying to find exactly what's true and what's not 339 00:17:56.279 --> 00:17:58.480 is is kind of difficult. 340 00:17:58.480 --> 00:18:01.240 But I hope that we can do. It's honestly probably 341 00:18:01.240 --> 00:18:01.799 gonna be like. 342 00:18:01.799 --> 00:18:05.720 Two to three episode long situation because I have so 343 00:18:05.880 --> 00:18:10.000 much and I haven't even gotten halfway through some of it, 344 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:12.799 and it's just it's never ending. I feel like at 345 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:14.880 this point, we're never going to run out of a job. 346 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:18.240 And no, we're not thinking more shit between that and 347 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:21.119 the pandemic or the epidemics, not even pandemic. It's called 348 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:24.680 an epidemic because it's shifted all the way into that already. 349 00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:27.279 Sure, of course, we got that new one that's about 350 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:27.680 to hit us. 351 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:31.240 And apparently it's five times more deadly than a fucking 352 00:18:31.319 --> 00:18:33.559 virus that was one percent deadly or some shit. 353 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:36.559 Who fucking it's forty it's forty to seventy five percent 354 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:37.319 fatality rate. 355 00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:40.519 Oh I remember when they said COVID was ninety two percent. 356 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:44.319 Well, it's migrating to the brain. That's the issue. 357 00:18:44.519 --> 00:18:48.039 That it's going straight to the brain, and it's incurable 358 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:48.920 as of right now. 359 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:51.720 I will start shaking in my boots when I'll start 360 00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:52.680 seeing some death tolls. 361 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:53.680 I'm gonna be honest with. 362 00:18:53.599 --> 00:18:57.160 You, I definitely am gonna do an episode on it 363 00:18:57.200 --> 00:18:59.039 because I've been watching it. I've been watching a lot 364 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:02.039 of the surgeons and doctors talk about it, so I'm 365 00:19:02.079 --> 00:19:06.440 curious to see what's gonna what the new regulations are 366 00:19:06.440 --> 00:19:08.359 going to be, because they're already pushing forward a whole 367 00:19:08.359 --> 00:19:09.240 bunch of stuff with it. 368 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:12.279 So I'm sure CNN is going to keep up that 369 00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:14.960 death Told ticker up at the top right corner got 370 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:17.839 to Oh, yeah, they gotta spread that fear. 371 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:19.119 That's just what they're all about. 372 00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:22.720 And see, this is this is the point, right Whenever 373 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:24.599 Jonathan and I were looking at who would be a 374 00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:27.319 good replacement, who would be able to fill these shoes 375 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:29.839 and take the ball and run with it, Ravenlee was 376 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:33.839 an obvious choice. Obvious like this wasn't like, man, I 377 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:36.480 don't know that, Like no, this is like clearly this 378 00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:38.039 is the only person that. 379 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:42.720 Could step into this position. And so here we are. 380 00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:47.400 Here we are good cult members, one thousand episodes on 381 00:19:47.519 --> 00:19:48.519 the books. 382 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:51.200 And I can't want to be alive. 383 00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:53.559 Oh it always is, it always is. 384 00:19:53.920 --> 00:19:57.039 We just we just reached in February first, which is 385 00:19:57.200 --> 00:19:58.680 happy Embolic everyone, by the. 386 00:19:58.680 --> 00:20:00.480 Way, there you go, there you go. 387 00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:04.599 First time I ever did a massive mushroom trip was 388 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:07.240 at Embolic at a big festival. So good things, good 389 00:20:07.319 --> 00:20:12.920 memories all the way through. But my point is we 390 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:15.279 are an episode one thousand. I can't wait till we 391 00:20:15.319 --> 00:20:19.039 all sit down to do episode two thousand, Episode five thousand, 392 00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:21.960 Episode ten thousand. Honestly, I don't know when this is 393 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:24.559 going to be. I know it's gonna happen. It's just 394 00:20:26.039 --> 00:20:29.119 my god. The roller coaster that one thousand has been 395 00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:34.240 has been epic. I cannot I can't even conceive what 396 00:20:34.400 --> 00:20:35.839 the rest of this is going to look like. 397 00:20:35.920 --> 00:20:38.519 But there's nobody I'd rather do it with than y'all. 398 00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:40.920 To be honest with you, So here we are. 399 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:44.240 If we make it to oh, we gonna make it. 400 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:46.160 The world, if the world don't end by then, Like 401 00:20:46.200 --> 00:20:48.960 at this point, that's true, I can't I can't wait 402 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:52.240 to go down the rabbit hole of the Lifeboat Foundation 403 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:52.640 with you. 404 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:56.079 Oh my god, you looked into that and the Space students. 405 00:20:56.519 --> 00:20:57.759 Oh yeah, No. 406 00:20:57.960 --> 00:21:01.319 I actually spent a solid four hours on their website 407 00:21:01.440 --> 00:21:05.079 signed up for it and everything so I could get into. 408 00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:08.000 All of this is an episode coming soon, good cold members. 409 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:10.079 This is not something we're gonna spend no time on tonight. 410 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:12.319 Oh no, it's a wild ride. 411 00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:13.359 It's gonna be great. 412 00:21:13.640 --> 00:21:16.119 I'm I'm I'm so glad that you're already read in 413 00:21:16.319 --> 00:21:17.559 on these things, because. 414 00:21:17.319 --> 00:21:19.559 So am I, and it's gonna be a wild one. 415 00:21:19.640 --> 00:21:21.440 So here we go the way. 416 00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:24.480 Hey, we're going to purchase a silo for the cult 417 00:21:24.559 --> 00:21:28.279 conspiracy because there's four that are available right now for purchase. 418 00:21:28.480 --> 00:21:30.519 Yo, I'm down. But what's the price is looking like? 419 00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:32.119 The last time I checked, it was stupid. 420 00:21:32.920 --> 00:21:33.279 Uh. 421 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:35.720 One of them is not bad, and it's massive. The 422 00:21:35.759 --> 00:21:37.559 plan I will looked at the entire plans. It's like 423 00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:40.440 one point five million, which is not that bad. 424 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:43.759 That's not that bad. What I mean, let me just 425 00:21:43.839 --> 00:21:46.119 pull it out of my early trust fund and down it. 426 00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:48.960 Bro Well, I mean the houses an Organ are literally 427 00:21:49.039 --> 00:21:50.400 like a million dollars each. 428 00:21:50.519 --> 00:21:53.160 No one lives an Organ raven. We got to leave 429 00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:55.680 Organ in the Pacific Northwest where it belongs. 430 00:21:57.039 --> 00:21:59.160 But I'm but the taxes actually weren't as bad as 431 00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:00.440 I thought they were going to be. They were like 432 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:02.200 forty k and I. 433 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:04.279 Was like, okay, I really thought they were gonna be 434 00:22:04.359 --> 00:22:04.960 way worse. 435 00:22:05.160 --> 00:22:07.319 Where's the silo located? Is it in Utah with the 436 00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:08.000 Mountain Jews? 437 00:22:08.359 --> 00:22:09.920 There's two in Texas right now? 438 00:22:10.039 --> 00:22:10.559 Shut up? 439 00:22:11.400 --> 00:22:11.440 No? 440 00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:13.480 Well, and I actually do is you can. 441 00:22:13.519 --> 00:22:16.160 I found the website where you can find where you 442 00:22:16.200 --> 00:22:18.480 can buy them, and like where you can find and 443 00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:21.880 go and tour them. It all started because of Epstein, 444 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:24.039 and then I went to life Boat, and life Boat 445 00:22:24.039 --> 00:22:27.720 went to another. The trail that I went on last night, 446 00:22:28.440 --> 00:22:31.200 it was epic. But yeah, no Titan one is for 447 00:22:31.279 --> 00:22:32.279 sale right now. 448 00:22:32.519 --> 00:22:34.480 Okay, we might have to talk about this offline. 449 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:39.480 Realia, you gotta start a religion and then write that 450 00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:43.359 purchase off as your church, and that would just be 451 00:22:43.480 --> 00:22:44.319 the way right there. 452 00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:47.960 I've already looked into it, and it's actually embarrassingly easy 453 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:50.839 to start your own religious movement. There's like four things 454 00:22:50.880 --> 00:22:53.440 you have to do and it's not hard. You could 455 00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:56.359 start a gym right now and claim that every member 456 00:22:56.400 --> 00:22:59.400 that goes to your gym is going to like, uh. 457 00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:04.279 You know, strengthen their their own temple, i e. Their body. 458 00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:07.640 Therefore when they go to the gym, it's a religious experience. 459 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:09.359 It's so it's embarrassing. 460 00:23:09.880 --> 00:23:11.599 I would write a religion for sure. 461 00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:12.839 I'm down. 462 00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:16.319 I'm down the whole ass religion. 463 00:23:16.359 --> 00:23:18.839 I'd be a part of it, or actually I make it. 464 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:20.839 You'd be the queen goddess. 465 00:23:21.079 --> 00:23:23.359 Hell yeah, I'd be the goddess shit. 466 00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:26.720 I'm good with just being a fucking uh whatever the 467 00:23:27.279 --> 00:23:29.960 new religion is. I'll just be like a monk, like 468 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:32.720 a friar, whatever whatever we call that thing. 469 00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:35.799 You just gotta make sure you shave the circle on 470 00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:40.160 your head. Bro, when the yo, I will rock a scullet. 471 00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:42.759 When the time comes and this hair climbs too far back, 472 00:23:43.160 --> 00:23:45.559 I'm not cutting the locks. It's just I'm gonna rock 473 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:48.920 a fucking sick, nasty scullet for like a solid decade, 474 00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:52.519 just let everybody know where my white trash line starts 475 00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:55.119 and ends, you know what I'm saying, And then after 476 00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:57.920 a decade of disgusting people, then I'll shave and be 477 00:23:57.960 --> 00:23:59.960 a normal human being again. But I'm got I gotta 478 00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:02.799 solid ten years of debauchery in me, that's for sure. 479 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:06.599 I can see it's. 480 00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:09.079 Being a full on fucking white menace with the fucking scullet. 481 00:24:09.720 --> 00:24:11.680 I wonder if we could make a religion where, like 482 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:16.160 where we somehow preserve you know, Actually, I actually have 483 00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:17.119 an idea for it. 484 00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:19.519 I'm afraid no. 485 00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:23.160 It's actually a positive thing, and it's a It's. 486 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:25.559 Actually based off of a really weird TV show that 487 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:28.799 I've seen and it's all about. 488 00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:36.599 Now what But no, ok, first off. 489 00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:38.960 There would be no raping women. 490 00:24:39.039 --> 00:24:41.160 Of course not that's horrible, Raven. 491 00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:45.119 It's literally the whole premise of the bitch Like is 492 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:48.240 to rape the women and get them pregnant. 493 00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:50.720 I come on, right, right, it's about perspective here. 494 00:24:50.920 --> 00:24:52.680 But what if I'm going to make you know what, 495 00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:55.079 we just have the menace as cattle. 496 00:24:55.119 --> 00:24:57.480 I guess just oh, the men are cattle. 497 00:24:57.799 --> 00:25:00.960 No, the children are gonna be cattle to do all 498 00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:04.799 the work. Obviously, the children. You're in for the mines, Ravenlee. 499 00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:10.319 Obviously so deep into earth, dude, that's what's crazy. 500 00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:15.200 It like goes into like bridge. It's so massive. 501 00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:19.200 Oh my god, just like Robert de Niro and meet 502 00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:23.359 the parents. It's got He's like, ye, got nipples, Greg, 503 00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:24.079 Can you milk me? 504 00:25:24.880 --> 00:25:27.759 Which is crazy because you can. That's a thing. 505 00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:32.240 What if men take testosterone and then don't step off 506 00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:32.880 the right way? 507 00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:33.960 They can lactate. 508 00:25:35.359 --> 00:25:38.759 It's not real milk, but yes, they make quote unquote. 509 00:25:38.559 --> 00:25:40.240 Which is milk whatever you want to say. Yes, if 510 00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:42.599 it's got nipples, it can in fact be milked. So 511 00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:45.720 like speaking of nipples, Oh, for the love. 512 00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:48.759 Of God, what where the fuck are we going, Raven. 513 00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:51.119 I'm sorry, I just learned this, and I don't know 514 00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:53.920 how in all of my years of study, I didn't 515 00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:58.200 know this. But I learned that women have a nipple 516 00:25:58.240 --> 00:26:00.960 line that goes from the arm to the groin and 517 00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:03.119 it's a V so on both sides. 518 00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:06.599 From the nipples down to the groin can be anywhere 519 00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:07.960 can grow a nipple. 520 00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:11.839 So we are, in fact mammals, and you can't have 521 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:12.519 six nipples. 522 00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:16.119 That's a real thing, yes, and that women have in fact, 523 00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:18.759 because I've heard about it through the grape fine of 524 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:24.680 birthing stuff, that women have grown random nipples during pregnant scene. 525 00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:27.039 I was like, I know, a woman with a third nipple. 526 00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:30.680 Really strange, you know, and whatnot. And then I saw 527 00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:33.119 this video and I was like what. So then of 528 00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:34.799 course I had to look into it because my mind 529 00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:37.079 can't like let shit go. And then I read into 530 00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:39.799 it and I'm slightly horrified in the. 531 00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:43.319 Sense like so the woman I'm talking about, for the record, 532 00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:44.880 I went to high school with her son. 533 00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:46.000 He was a buddy of mine. Nick. 534 00:26:46.039 --> 00:26:47.400 If you're out there, I'm not going to drop your 535 00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:48.720 last name because I want to embarrass you. 536 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:49.759 But I love your death. Brother. 537 00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:53.839 He also has a third nipple. Apparently it's a hereditary trait, 538 00:26:54.279 --> 00:26:56.720 and I thought he was joking till he showed me. 539 00:26:56.960 --> 00:26:58.559 It's like, yeah, my mom's got it too. I'm like, 540 00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:02.119 I'm sorry, fucking what. Apparently when she was pregnant, that 541 00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:06.039 bitch lactated that third one absolutely produced milk, and it's 542 00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:08.880 like but it's like maybe an inch lower than her 543 00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:10.759 already there nipples. 544 00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:14.000 So it's like here all the way down down like 545 00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:17.519 down your sides into your ruin, and it was a 546 00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:18.079 whole thing. 547 00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:22.319 I can't, like, I can't let it go now that I. 548 00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:24.920 Know this, I just having a nipple on like your 549 00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:27.160 second ab down on one of your sides, and like 550 00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:29.000 that's also weird. 551 00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:29.039 In his zone. 552 00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:30.119 Oh god. 553 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:33.400 This conversation came about because this nipple got grown on 554 00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:34.799 this lady's stomach. 555 00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:36.960 And she was like, the fuck is this? 556 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:39.039 And I was like, girl, I'd be having a whole 557 00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:44.079 fucking meltdown, like an absolute meltdown if like nipples just 558 00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:44.680 popped up. 559 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.920 Dude, forget an extra nipple, you know, until I see 560 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:52.200 a second vagina on you, that not be impressed. 561 00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:54.319 You know what I mean? Like they have them. They 562 00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:56.119 do have them double vaginas. 563 00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:58.920 There's a woman that's going on kill Tony twice now 564 00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:00.720 who has two vaginas. 565 00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:03.920 Now one of them pretty much never got past the. 566 00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:07.039 Level of like infancy, but it is still there and 567 00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:09.279 has its own labias internal So you got like the 568 00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:13.680 main the main spasm chasm, right, and then inside that 569 00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:14.759 there's two holes. 570 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:17.119 One of them they have to use like. 571 00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:21.880 A what's the word, no, no, no, no, it's a speculum, 572 00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:25.359 but for infants, basically it's like an infant speculum to 573 00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:27.799 do the the GUYO has to do that on one 574 00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:29.640 side and then a regular speculum. 575 00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:31.680 On the other. They've made all the jokes you can 576 00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:34.039 think of on kill Tony. I love the show. But 577 00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:38.759 that is a thing that woman then apparently. 578 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:40.559 Not but apparently she only has one set of ovaries, 579 00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:43.119 so like it's there, but it's not functioning, but is there. 580 00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:46.759 But they do in fact have a second vagina, but 581 00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:47.680 it's behind the knee. 582 00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:49.000 But you gotta believe it's there. 583 00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:52.079 As of Glenn Quagmire, doun said it you have to 584 00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:53.599 really believe it's there. 585 00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:55.799 And you can find that that gold, you know what 586 00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:56.119 I mean. 587 00:28:56.200 --> 00:29:01.920 I don't know. Yes, anyway, we're getting way off into 588 00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:02.559 the weeds. 589 00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:03.839 Here, way way off in the topic. 590 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:06.200 Sorry, but we've talked about it and I needed to 591 00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:08.759 share with somebody else what I learn because I can't 592 00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:09.359 get over it. 593 00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:11.279 Okay, I get it. You know. 594 00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:13.279 Back in the day, we used to do a pre show, 595 00:29:13.319 --> 00:29:15.000 and I feel like that just lined up with what 596 00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:19.519 we just got done doing because now the show starts. 597 00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:19.519 It does. 598 00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:22.599 And what we have for the good cult members is 599 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:27.000 three separate talking points here that we're all each going 600 00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:29.599 to be bringing. Raven is going to be bringing hers, 601 00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:33.119 Jacob will have his, and I will have mine as well. 602 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:35.640 And so this is three shows in one and we 603 00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:39.799 couldn't think of any better way to celebrate episode one thous. 604 00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:42.519 While yeah, than all three of. 605 00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:46.680 Us having our own shows all in one's. It is 606 00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:52.240 a conspiracy celebration. And here you are, so hopefully your 607 00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:56.160 brain doesn't, you know, just malfunction with all of this 608 00:29:56.599 --> 00:29:59.440 third eye opening madness that we're about to go into. 609 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.200 But here we go. And Jacob, did we decide that 610 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:04.240 I'm going first or you are? 611 00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:05.279 Yep, you're going first. 612 00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:06.279 You're going first, brother. 613 00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:09.279 So for all the good cult members, this is some 614 00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:13.119 might say our favorite conspiracies as of this moment. It's 615 00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:15.519 very subject to change. Six months from now, we might 616 00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:16.759 have whole new favorites. 617 00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:19.200 But were we supposed to have our favorite conspiracy? 618 00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:21.759 Oh, Raven, Yes, that was supposed to be it. 619 00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:22.920 Oh my bad. 620 00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:25.559 This dropped into my lap and I was like, I 621 00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:27.759 can't not not talk about it now. 622 00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:31.799 But that's fine, because your favorite is A is a 623 00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:34.799 fluid thing, right. My favorite movie today is not the 624 00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:36.799 same favorite movie I had ten years ago. 625 00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:38.920 It depends you grow. 626 00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:42.359 It oh so well now, and I fucked up the assignment, 627 00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:44.880 but I mean to be fair, it is about AI, 628 00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:47.440 so like we all know how much I feel about AI. 629 00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:52.079 It's saying so it ties in yes, yes, and and 630 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:54.519 I don't even know if this is my favorite technically. 631 00:30:54.640 --> 00:30:56.839 I just I love this movie that we're going to 632 00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.359 be talking about. And anybody that has ever seen Zy 633 00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:05.519 like absolutely mind opening movies that have hit you in 634 00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:10.559 more ways than you thought they would, such as The Matrix. 635 00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:14.000 Everybody mentions The Matrix and there are so many allegories 636 00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:17.880 and so many things that you can really pull from 637 00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:20.880 that movie. Another great one that I feel like it's 638 00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:23.880 slept on way more than it needs to, especially for 639 00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:28.039 anybody involved in conspiracies or spiritual shit. 640 00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:30.160 This is why I wanted to bring this one to 641 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:32.079 the show. We are going to be diving all the 642 00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:34.880 way in to The Truman Show came out in nineteen 643 00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:39.400 ninety eight Jim Carrey and it's it's actually a lot 644 00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:44.039 deeper than most people think. And what happened was, it 645 00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:47.240 was about a week or so ago, Sean and I 646 00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:52.559 got invited to come on as guests onto the Great 647 00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:56.920 Pield podcast over there with Jewels or Patriot, the Yeah 648 00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:01.359 Jewels and the Occult Rejects and couple others that were 649 00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:04.240 there too. It was really really awesome, and they invited 650 00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:08.279 us to come over there and talk about something, and 651 00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:09.680 so I was like, you know what, I want to 652 00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:12.680 really go in there with a fucking banger of an idea. 653 00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:14.440 And they loved it. 654 00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:17.000 They straight up said, this is our this is one 655 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:18.400 of our best shows that we've ever done, and as 656 00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:19.720 a matter of fact, we want to make it a 657 00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:22.839 regular thing that we start doing shit like this. And 658 00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:26.039 then we went on to talking Stit with with Derek 659 00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:30.319 Stitt and loved him. Got done with that show and 660 00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:31.880 he was like dude, I'm not even gonna lie. This 661 00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:34.960 was my favorite show I've ever done, and I was like, well, 662 00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:37.559 the show must go on, and so why not bring 663 00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:40.039 it over to the Cult of Conspiracy for episode one 664 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:42.799 thousand and just see what the cult members think about it. 665 00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:44.319 Now, what I'm not going to. 666 00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:47.599 Do is try and impress what you should think, or 667 00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:49.960 what you should believe, or what you should. 668 00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:50.799 Take from this movie. 669 00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:53.920 There are many different ways to skin a cat, right, 670 00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:56.880 And you can look at at one thing from a 671 00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:00.200 bunch of different perspectives and get a bunch of different 672 00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:04.160 perspectives on it. And so that's what I'm going to 673 00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:06.200 try to do. I'm going to try and wrap it 674 00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:06.839 all together. 675 00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:12.400 And this is actually a more gnostic understanding. Now, I 676 00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:16.319 know a lot of listeners here are Christian. So I'm 677 00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:18.880 not gonna tell you that what you think is wrong 678 00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:20.319 or right or I'm not that guy. 679 00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:23.480 I used to be that guy. I don't want to 680 00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:25.880 be that guy anymore. Who am I to tell. 681 00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:28.039 Anybody what is right or wrong? That's where I like 682 00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:28.680 to come from. 683 00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:33.440 I would never condemn anybody to a dark place for 684 00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:34.880 thinking one way or another. 685 00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:35.799 That's just my thing. 686 00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:39.279 That being said, you can look at this this movie 687 00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:42.200 in multiple ways, and most people will watch The Truman 688 00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:45.559 Show and be like, see, I told you we lived 689 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:47.559 on a flat Earth and it was in a dome 690 00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:51.319 and we're being monitored six ways to Sunday, all those 691 00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:53.960 different cameras that are in that movie, and this is 692 00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:57.839 all one giant scripted reality and they know your every move. 693 00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:00.359 You could look at it like that, and to be honest, 694 00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:02.079 that's kind of what I thought the first few times 695 00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:05.400 that I watched it. However, after doing a bit of 696 00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:08.880 a deeper dive and researching all the things that I 697 00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:11.719 have researched, I am now looking at this movie in 698 00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:15.639 a completely different way. And that way not to say 699 00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:19.440 that I even align myself with Gnostic ideology. 700 00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:20.079 I like it. 701 00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:22.719 I think it's interesting. Do I think that that is 702 00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:24.000 the be all, end all truth. 703 00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:26.840 No, I don't think there is one, just personally me 704 00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:28.880 from that peace. 705 00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:29.679 Of mind now. 706 00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:33.679 So the I do want to say, for anybody who 707 00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:40.440 doesn't know what gnosticism is nastissism, it was around for 708 00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:44.199 all quite a long time, and a lot of the 709 00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:49.199 Gnostics were mixing in their stories with the biblical canon stories, 710 00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:53.800 and then that's ultimately why correct me if I'm wrong. Ultimately, 711 00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:58.679 why all the different councils with your boy Emperor Constantine 712 00:34:58.719 --> 00:34:59.719 decided to get together and. 713 00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:01.639 Say, all right, we got to separate all this shit. 714 00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:04.360 There's one true story and all these fake stories are 715 00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:06.880 going around. We got to narrow it down. They eventually 716 00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:08.960 ended up narrowing it down to sixty six books. 717 00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:13.360 But before that happened, all of these stories were all in. 718 00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:17.760 They were all circulating, right, and. 719 00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:19.719 You're not You're not far off here. 720 00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:24.199 It wasn't just Constantine, but yes, the Gnostic conversation came 721 00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:27.079 about right after the death of Jesus, and for about 722 00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:29.639 two hundred years they had so many people that were 723 00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:33.159 saying that this is truth, even though they weren't first 724 00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:35.440 hand accounts. They had nothing to do with the apostles. 725 00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:38.199 Maybe they did, maybe they didn't, Maybe it was plagarized, 726 00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:41.119 maybe it was forgery. We you know, the subject to 727 00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:45.039 interpretation and historical documentation can fight the fight on that. 728 00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:48.119 I mean, that's even why the Muslims believe what they 729 00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:51.400 believe about Jesus is because Mohammed was a Gnostic and 730 00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:54.880 so a lot of his stories about Jesus' crucifixion ties 731 00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:58.320 in with the gnostic conversation because he wasn't there. 732 00:35:58.519 --> 00:35:59.960 It was six hundred years after the fact. 733 00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:05.239 And so, yeah, the original councils and all these things 734 00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:08.559 the early church fathers got together, was like, Okay, bring 735 00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:11.480 me every book that's got the name Jesus in it, 736 00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:14.119 and let's get it together. Let's get a full on 737 00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:16.920 start to finish storyline on this and see what is 738 00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:20.599 and is not factual, what is fan fic and all 739 00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:21.039 the things. 740 00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:23.480 So you're not very far off on this whatsoever. 741 00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:26.960 Ah, that is very new to me to say that 742 00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:29.480 Mohammad was a gnostic me, oh, very much. So did 743 00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:32.400 you read any of the ship that he said? Like, 744 00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:35.639 does not point like you think about all the rules 745 00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:39.440 that they have within Islam, that's not gnostic at all. 746 00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:41.840 At first, I'm hearing that. 747 00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:45.480 You say that their rules quote unquote are very much guidelines. 748 00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:48.400 And I mean whenever they do talk about Jesus, they 749 00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:51.199 talk about how he wasn't crucified. It was his spirit 750 00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:53.480 that was crucified, not his physical body, which is a 751 00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:58.000 very gnostic conversation. There's a lot of things about Mary Magdalene, 752 00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:00.280 there's a lot of things about his birth and yeah, 753 00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:03.000 basically so, and we're not we're not taking a side 754 00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:05.360 tangent here. But Muhammad was a war lord who grew 755 00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:08.000 up and pretty much thrived on the Silk Road, and 756 00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:10.400 with that you had a lot of the mythraic religions 757 00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:12.480 and you had a lot of the gnostic storytelling that 758 00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:15.719 went on. Muhammad himself was illiterate, so he only knew 759 00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:18.800 about Jesus what he had heard word of mouth, and 760 00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:20.880 a lot of the word of mouth about Jesus going 761 00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:23.840 on in the Silk Road was in fact very gnostic 762 00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:27.320 in conversation, so he kind of blended a little bit 763 00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:29.400 of Torah, a little bit of narcissism, a little bit 764 00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:30.119 of his own thing. 765 00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:34.519 And he was also like the most obvious false. 766 00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:37.840 Prophet ever even by the word of Islam, by their 767 00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:40.320 own depictions of what a false prophet would look like. 768 00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:43.679 It's really crazy that they bought into this dude shit, 769 00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:45.440 But we're not doing that on this episode. 770 00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:46.960 But anyway, anyway, I. 771 00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:49.760 Mean, yeah, people have definitely bought things for a lot cheaper. 772 00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:52.239 Oh you know what I'm saying, So it doesn't surprise me. 773 00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:54.320 There's a lot of people that are not willing to 774 00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:57.440 put in their own spiritual work and understand you know, 775 00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:01.679 God or the creation or whatever within themselves. So they'll 776 00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:05.239 look outward to other people who may have stumbled across 777 00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:08.719 the story. And usually the story that you end up 778 00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:12.239 believing is something that you grew up in or something 779 00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:15.480 that like it's from somebody that you respect and you 780 00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:17.519 feel like they're they're they got a pretty good head 781 00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:20.320 on their shoulders. So I'm just gonna go with that. Yeah, 782 00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:23.599 that's pretty much what I found. And and hey, I mean, 783 00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:25.719 how however you got to where you are in your 784 00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:28.079 spiritual journey, that's how you got there. 785 00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:29.000 Nothing wrong with it. 786 00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:33.880 Now that being said, nosis, as far as the Gnostics go, 787 00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:38.920 nosis is is something that means hidden knowledge. It's like 788 00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:42.679 the hidden knowledge, the hidden wisdom, uh, that is within you. 789 00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:46.079 That's what they believed, not because it was like a 790 00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:48.360 secret or anything. And this is what I actually think 791 00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:52.320 that a lot of secret societies, I believe secret societies 792 00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.360 went in secret not. 793 00:38:55.480 --> 00:38:58.639 Because it was they were they were. 794 00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:02.039 I mean, I'm sure some of them were, you know, 795 00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:05.159 practicing bad shit. There's no doubt about it. You're always 796 00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:06.880 gonna have a fucking turn in the punch bowl. But 797 00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:09.400 I think for the most part why they went in 798 00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:12.760 secret and the Freemasons on every windows or any of 799 00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.840 that kind of shit, I think that it's because of 800 00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:19.960 possible repercussions from the outside and from the masses. Because 801 00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:24.280 if you're you know, I don't know, drawing a fucking 802 00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:29.519 salted pentagram and lighting some candles and calling on what 803 00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:32.440 is deemed a demon or something like that, you're probably 804 00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:34.840 gonna get run out of town. So you do it underground, 805 00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:37.880 you do it in secret. And that's what I believe anyway. 806 00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:40.679 But as far as the Gnostics, they were kind of 807 00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:42.599 the same way. Not necessarily. 808 00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:45.239 I mean, a lot of them are very loud and proud, 809 00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:47.880 but for the ones that actually got it, it was 810 00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:51.840 almost like you gained that secret knowledge. And now that 811 00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:54.639 the thing is is that they believe that secret knowledge 812 00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:57.039 was not found from any book, it wasn't found from 813 00:39:57.039 --> 00:39:59.639 any man, it wasn't found on anything in the outside world, 814 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.320 because they believed that the world was basically an illusion, right. 815 00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:07.760 They actually they call it the knoma, which is basically 816 00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:10.280 the same thing as maya, which is illusion, but they 817 00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:13.079 called it the canoma. And we're going to get to that, 818 00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:16.400 but uh, just wanted to say that you know, gnoscissism 819 00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:20.119 comes from knowledge from within and for anybody that doesn't know, 820 00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:22.559 that's what they were claiming anyway. 821 00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:27.400 I mean, secret societies have existed since ancient Greece, actually 822 00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:28.199 ancient Egypt. 823 00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:29.320 We're going to go all the way back. 824 00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:31.920 And some of that was, like you said, because they 825 00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:33.880 wanted to be out of the way of prying eyes 826 00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:37.039 that might judge them for whatever they were doing. Some 827 00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:40.719 of that was because, like they only wanted the initiated right, 828 00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:43.639 They only wanted the select few who were willing to 829 00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:47.079 put in seven years of silence or willing to put 830 00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:49.400 in x amount of dollars or x amount of their 831 00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:54.079 actual self into the organization to be like, Okay, this 832 00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:56.719 this person here has gone above and beyond. We can 833 00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:59.000 trust him to be a part of the fold, if 834 00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:03.400 you will. That was very dark in nature. Some of 835 00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:06.760 it was, honestly, just to keep it exclusive. There's a 836 00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:09.039 little bit of both to be real well. 837 00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:11.440 And also they believe that, you know, milk was for 838 00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:15.880 the masses, and and not everybody would be able to 839 00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:21.440 understand this stuff at an early period in their journey, 840 00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:23.760 sure kind and you did have to go through a 841 00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:29.360 lot of really rigorous initiation roles really, and I've dude, 842 00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:30.920 I've gone into a lot of them. 843 00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:31.440 You know. 844 00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:33.679 Sometimes you have to go in seven years of silence, 845 00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:36.599 just like with pythagorasts. Sometimes you literally like you got 846 00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:38.639 to go out into the woods and try and survive 847 00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:42.119 for a week or multiple weeks or whatever. Usually that 848 00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:44.679 is for the young. They'll send the young out into 849 00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:46.840 the woods and you come back and all that stuff. Actually, 850 00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:48.480 I'm going to be bringing that up here in a second. 851 00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:51.519 But a bunch of weird initiation things as far as 852 00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:52.679 the Gnostic stuff. 853 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:55.360 I don't know if there were initiation stuff. I didn't 854 00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:56.519 really dive that deep. 855 00:41:56.599 --> 00:41:59.920 I don't. I'm not one hundred percent sure. But I 856 00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:01.400 do have a quote here, and this is. 857 00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:07.519 From an amazing YouTube channel called Forbidden Nosis on YouTube. 858 00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:09.760 Definitely everybody go check them out if you're into what 859 00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:10.800 we're about to get into. 860 00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:13.079 This is his quote. He goes. 861 00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:14.920 They say that The Truman Show is one of the 862 00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:18.679 most precise Gnostic allegories ever put to film, a nearly 863 00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:23.159 perfect movie translation of ancient Gnostic texts discovered in Nagamadi 864 00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:26.519 that describes reality as a prison created by a false god. 865 00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:30.119 Humanity as divine beings trapped in ignorance and awakening that 866 00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:33.719 is a dangerous process, seeing through the illusion and escaping 867 00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:38.159 toward true freedom. Every major element of this film christoph 868 00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:41.960 as the demiurge, Sea Haven as the material world prison, 869 00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:46.719 Truman's glitches and suspicions as his nosis is beginning to awaken, 870 00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:51.840 Sylvia as Sophia calling calling from beyond the dome, and 871 00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:55.880 Truman's final crossing of water and ascent through the door 872 00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:59.719 as our souls escape from the arconic control. It maps 873 00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:04.000 directly onto Gnostic cosmology with such precision that it's impossible 874 00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:07.480 to believe that it's accidental. This is a deliberate, carefully 875 00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:11.440 constructed retelling of the Gnostic spiritual narrative for a modern audience, 876 00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:14.559 and once you understand the Gnostic framework, you can never 877 00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:18.079 watch the film the same way again. So just wanted 878 00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:20.400 to throw that out there, so you know what you're 879 00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:21.159 getting into. 880 00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:22.960 A little bit. Okay, let's dive in. 881 00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:26.440 All right now, there are some words that I'm gonna 882 00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:28.960 be I'm gonna be saying and for anybody that is 883 00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:32.760 not very well versed within Gnosticism, these are some of 884 00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:34.760 the like the keywords that I'm going to be saying 885 00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:36.639 in the notes so that the you understand when I'm 886 00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:40.679 what I'm talking about. The first word is one that 887 00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:44.159 I called said earlier, called the kinoma. They just it's 888 00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:47.559 the false world. It's the false reality. They literally believe 889 00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:51.559 that reality is an illusion. It actually translates kinoma literally 890 00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:58.039 translates to emptiness or deficiency in Gnostic cosmology. It's the false, 891 00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:01.639 hollow realm that is created by the Demiurge and ruled 892 00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:06.000 by the Arkans. So the arcons basically work for the Demiurge. 893 00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:09.039 They're working to keep the illusion up. And they work 894 00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:12.280 to keep the illusion up, not necessarily by like you know, 895 00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:15.519 going and uh fixing patches and walls so that you 896 00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:18.199 don't see the ones and zeros behind the curtain or anything. 897 00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:24.679 The arcons are there to reinforce the individual that what 898 00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:27.239 you see is your reality, So don't think that there's 899 00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:28.039 anything beyond it. 900 00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:31.360 Got that's that's an arc that's the rule of the Arkans. 901 00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:36.239 And obviously anybody that's seen the Truman Show, literally everybody 902 00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:39.679 in there is a fucking ARCon. Literally everybody that lives 903 00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:42.239 at Sea Haven is an ARCon, except for the people 904 00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:45.199 that like break through that you know, his his. 905 00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:49.360 His wife and his best friend are both like that. 906 00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:51.599 Yep, yep. 907 00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:54.199 They are trying to keep up the charade, right and 908 00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:56.400 constantly trying to reinforce it. 909 00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:59.199 Okay, So the kenoma. 910 00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:02.440 Is a is a artificial it's it's essentially what the 911 00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:06.679 gnostics believe that the knoma is a copy of the 912 00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:15.719 of the paloma, which the plerooma is like God, essentially 913 00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:18.920 like the land of God kind of, It's almost like 914 00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:22.519 Heaven from what I understand that it's. And so this 915 00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:29.519 this kinoma is is like a fake copy of it. 916 00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:33.920 It's usually maintained through fear and ignorance, and it's only escaped. 917 00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:35.400 You can only. 918 00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:39.920 Escape the false illusion of reality known as kenoma through gnosis, 919 00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:44.880 which is direct knowing, so and and so. As far 920 00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:47.920 as the Truman Show goes, Sea Haven is a manufactured 921 00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:52.400 world enclosed by a literal dome. Everything is curated, whether 922 00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:55.679 it be the the weather, the people, the jobs. And 923 00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:58.880 Truman doesn't live in reality. He essentially lives in a 924 00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:03.880 simulation that is designed to feel real. Right, So that 925 00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:06.519 is the the kenoma. 926 00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:09.199 Then the demiurge. I feel like a lot of people 927 00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:10.800 know what this word means. But if not, we're going 928 00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:14.559 to go into it. The Demiurge in the movie is 929 00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:17.119 known as Christoph. He's the one that is like he's 930 00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:19.719 up in the moon and he's calling the shots, and 931 00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:21.519 he's basically like Truman's dad. 932 00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:23.119 Almost right, that's the director. 933 00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:24.920 Shit, it's like the god. 934 00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:29.599 He's wearing the Kangol hat. Yeah you know, yeah, yeah 935 00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:32.880 that so Christoph. 936 00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:36.920 Or the Demiurge is uh, the Demiurge in gnosticism is 937 00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:41.039 a false god, not like an evil false god like 938 00:46:41.480 --> 00:46:44.480 a cartoon or anything like that. But but but the 939 00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:49.320 the Demiurge is ignorant, controlling, and obsessed with order. He 940 00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:52.639 believes that he is the highest authority. He believes that 941 00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:55.320 there is nothing beyond himself. He doesn't even know that 942 00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:58.960 there's anything beyond himself. He's the fake God. And so 943 00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:02.199 within the true show, Christoph sits above the world, literally 944 00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:06.239 in the sky, in the moon room. The he lives 945 00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:11.400 in the moon. Basically, he speaks with godlike authority, manipulates reality, 946 00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:14.840 and claims that he loves Truman, yet he refuses to 947 00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:17.519 try and let him leave. Okay, so that's not real love. 948 00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:20.800 That's called control. Yeah, that's just what the demiurge does. 949 00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:24.320 Then you got the arkans. The arcans, as we were 950 00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:27.840 talking about earlier, arcans are the rulers of the material realm. 951 00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:31.679 They're gate keepers who distract you, deceive you, and enforce 952 00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:37.920 the illusion. Within the Truman Show, Truman's wife, his best friend, 953 00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:41.760 his co workers, the radio hosts, and and everything else 954 00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:46.079 is all arconic. When Truman tries to wake up, they 955 00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:50.239 gaslight him, they redirect him, or emotionally manipulate him. Arconic 956 00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:52.119 behavior one hundred percent. Right. 957 00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:56.400 So it says that arcans don't need to convince you 958 00:47:56.440 --> 00:47:58.840 that the world is real. They only need to keep 959 00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:02.119 you busy so that you don't question it, Like keep 960 00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:04.519 your mind off of it. You know, Oh you saw 961 00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:06.559 a glitch on the matrix here, how about a beer, 962 00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:09.199 you know, let's talk. Let's talk about the game, you know, 963 00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:14.519 like bullshit like that. Nextly you have Sophia. So Sophia 964 00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:19.760 within gnosticism is divine wisdom that falls into the material 965 00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:24.519 realm and sparks an awakening. She's she's not here to 966 00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:26.159 save you or anything like that. 967 00:48:26.199 --> 00:48:27.079 She's just here to. 968 00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:30.840 Remind you of your divinity so that you can try 969 00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:33.559 and pull yourself out of the illusion. She's the spark, right, 970 00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:37.559 and so within the in the Truman Show. 971 00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:39.840 Sylvia is Sophia. 972 00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:42.119 Sylvia is the one that he wants to be with 973 00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:45.760 but can right, everybody is trying to keep them from 974 00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:50.760 being together, and so Sylvia tells Truman. So Sophia, divine 975 00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:55.199 Sophia essentially is trying to tell Truman the truth, trying 976 00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:58.840 to tell true the Truman the truth, and is forcibly removed, 977 00:48:59.119 --> 00:49:02.519 but once seen and she cannot be unseen. He she's 978 00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:04.960 like all the way stuck in his mind. It's the 979 00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:07.800 only thing he thinks about the entire movie. He's talking about, 980 00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:10.119 I want to go to Fiji, because whenever she's taken 981 00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:13.480 by her dad in quotations not really your dad, taken 982 00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:14.280 by your dad. 983 00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:15.480 He says, oh, we're moving to Fiji. 984 00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:17.920 And so he's obsessed with trying to figure out how 985 00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:20.360 to get to Fiji literally the entire movie. And so 986 00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:26.159 if it wasn't for Sylvia bringing that like divine spark, 987 00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:29.039 almost maybe he would have never really cared to try 988 00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:29.559 and get out. 989 00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:32.400 So that was kind of needed as far as Sophia. 990 00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:34.079 That's what Sophia stands. 991 00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:36.480 For we talked about what nosis is. 992 00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:41.320 All right, you already know what the firmament is, and 993 00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:42.039 here we go. 994 00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:44.800 All right, So are you ready to go all the 995 00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:47.440 way into this movie? Anybody that's ever seen this movie? 996 00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:50.039 Everybody fox with this movie hard, right, like it is 997 00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:51.000 one of the best movies. 998 00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:55.079 Of all time. Yeah, yep, okay. 999 00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:57.559 So I'm watching this movie the other day and I 1000 00:49:57.599 --> 00:49:59.679 was like, I want to try and see without even 1001 00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:02.079 doing any looking up any videos. 1002 00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:04.280 I don't want to look at any anybody else's notes. 1003 00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:06.280 I'm gonna try and see if I can get this 1004 00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:08.840 on my own, just where I am in my path, 1005 00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:13.599 my slightly decent understanding of gnosticism. What can I find 1006 00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:16.199 in esotericism? There's a little bit of mixture of both. 1007 00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:19.920 So I'm watching the movie and the first sign of 1008 00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:24.679 symbolism in the movie is the neighbor's Dalmatian dog and 1009 00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:28.960 his name is Pluto jumps on Truman. All right, So 1010 00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:31.480 you already know where I'm gonna go with this. Dalmatians 1011 00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:34.519 are black and white, right, and there's obviously the symbolism there. 1012 00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:38.320 So there's actually this This scene is actually symbolic in 1013 00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:41.519 several different ways. The black and white colors of the 1014 00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:45.480 Dalmatian is symbolic of the duality of life. That's why 1015 00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:47.719 you obvious see the Freemasons with the black and white 1016 00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:50.440 checkerboard floors. It's all about the duality of life and 1017 00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:53.480 about how they are above it. That's what the Freemasons believe, 1018 00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:57.000 that they are above the duality of life. All the 1019 00:50:57.000 --> 00:51:00.320 rest of the poor, the masses, whatever, you're off on 1020 00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:03.840 the chessboard, we're above that shit, right, And that's that's 1021 00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:04.920 a Freemason thought. 1022 00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:09.440 Anyway, where was I? Okay? 1023 00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:11.760 So it's the way that the system keeps people under 1024 00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:14.719 control by giving them the illusion of free will, but 1025 00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:18.320 they keep themselves self governed with the illusion of only 1026 00:51:18.360 --> 00:51:21.440 two choices. Most people you see, they believe that they 1027 00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:22.320 only have two choices. 1028 00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:23.599 I can do this or I can do that. 1029 00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:28.159 That's about it, right, And so that's like dualistic thinking. 1030 00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:33.039 You're putting yourself in a box whenever you're doing that. 1031 00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:35.079 That's fair, that's fair. 1032 00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:39.920 I've actually looked at this movie from when I took psychology. 1033 00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:42.559 I had to look at it from an anthropology point 1034 00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:42.960 of view. 1035 00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:44.840 It is one of those movies that you had to 1036 00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:45.480 break down. 1037 00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:48.840 Because it's heavy, heavy, in psychology as well. 1038 00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:52.320 So hell yeah, dude, it is very, very symbolic all 1039 00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:52.840 the way through. 1040 00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:55.960 So did you do? Okay? 1041 00:51:56.039 --> 00:52:00.719 So the dog's name being Pluto in mythology, Pluto stands 1042 00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:04.719 for Hades in Greek mythology, right, Pluto stands for Hades, 1043 00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:11.000 lord of the underworld. Hades is the guardian of death, fear, 1044 00:52:11.159 --> 00:52:14.639 and the unconscious mind. Also wanted to mention that it's 1045 00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:18.679 also Pavlovian fear anchoring. So whenever he first gets jumped 1046 00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:21.159 on by the dog, he's like scared of this dog. 1047 00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:24.039 He's like, oh God, he's like, you know, panicking almost 1048 00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:27.039 whenever he's getting jumped on, and it's almost Pavlovian if 1049 00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:29.119 you ever heard of Pavlogs, Pavlov's dog. 1050 00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:31.440 We're about to get into here for a second. So 1051 00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:33.079 it's so symbolic. 1052 00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:35.400 Several different things are going on at the same time 1053 00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:38.880 to try and reinforce his fear to keep him wanting 1054 00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:43.360 to stay here and never leaving. Right, So all that, 1055 00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:45.400 of course, it makes sense because Pavlov is one of them. 1056 00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:48.480 Is most known for his studies where he found that 1057 00:52:48.519 --> 00:52:51.960 dogs could learn to salivate in response to a neutral 1058 00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:55.639 stimulus like a bell when it was repeatedly paired with food, 1059 00:52:55.800 --> 00:53:00.920 demonstrating how behaviors can be learned through association. It's classical 1060 00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:04.079 conditioning essentially, and it always reminds me of anybody that's 1061 00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:04.760 ever seen. 1062 00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:07.199 Big Bank Theory did a joke about that. 1063 00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:12.119 Actually, Oh yeah, Sheldon tried training Penny to be less 1064 00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:15.400 annoying by offering her chocolates every time that she would 1065 00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:17.840 like take his hints to the point to where he 1066 00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:20.519 was basically training her to be a better like neighbor. 1067 00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:21.599 It was a whole thing. 1068 00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:24.519 Yeah, there was a scene like that in the office too, 1069 00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:28.320 with with Dwight and fucking Jim with the mint. 1070 00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:31.800 Yeah, yeah, just ring a bell and Dwight would put 1071 00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:32.559 his hand out. 1072 00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:34.840 And every time he restarted his computer, here the little 1073 00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:39.920 boom boom, and then you and the next thing you know. Yeah, 1074 00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:43.199 So it's Pavlovian uh training essentially. 1075 00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:46.599 That's that's going on here. It's uh, it's brain conditioning. 1076 00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:51.360 So Truman is literally being conditioned to uh. He's being 1077 00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:55.039 conditioned to have this fear which keeps him from awakening 1078 00:53:55.079 --> 00:53:57.400 to the true nature of his reality from the get 1079 00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:01.000 go in the movie, and just moments later the light 1080 00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:03.760 falls from the sky onto the ground right in front 1081 00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:06.800 of him. It's labeled Serious, and Serious is known as 1082 00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:10.400 the brightest star in the sky, which I do before 1083 00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:13.280 I even move on. Somebody pointed this out and the 1084 00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:15.760 show with Gray pild and I'm so terrible with names. 1085 00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:18.400 I'm sorry, but he goes, oh, you know what's actually 1086 00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:23.559 funny is is that Serious is also known as the 1087 00:54:23.719 --> 00:54:27.079 dog star. So you had Pluto jumping on him, and 1088 00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:29.039 then Serious the dog light comes up. 1089 00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:32.119 From in front of him, right, so pretty crazy. 1090 00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:37.000 In gnosticism, the sky is known for the false cosmology 1091 00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:39.960 of the fake reality, of which the Hindus call Maya 1092 00:54:40.039 --> 00:54:43.639 the Great Illusion. This is the beginning of Truman's sensing 1093 00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:45.920 that something is off about the nature of his reality. 1094 00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:48.800 Moments later, Truman gets into his car and is listening 1095 00:54:48.800 --> 00:54:51.280 to the radio, and the radio says, there was an 1096 00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:55.679 aircraft flying over Sea Haven and it began shedding parts 1097 00:54:55.719 --> 00:54:56.800 and luckily nobody. 1098 00:54:56.599 --> 00:54:57.320 Was injured below. 1099 00:54:57.880 --> 00:55:01.039 So the radio is in on it trying to reinforce 1100 00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:03.360 don't think about it. It was just a fucking airplane 1101 00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:05.679 that was just dropping parts. Everybody knows that that was 1102 00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:08.039 a that was like a show light, right like that. 1103 00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:09.039 You see on a stage. 1104 00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:10.159 Clearly you could tell. 1105 00:55:10.199 --> 00:55:12.280 But I mean that's if somebody's ever seen what a 1106 00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:15.039 light on a set would look like. Right, But also 1107 00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:20.239 tying back Pluto as a Mickey Mouse's dog, also, I 1108 00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:23.079 feel like is a pretty uh pretty iconic look to 1109 00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:27.639 the Pluto dog star conversation. And then like you're saying, 1110 00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:30.760 here on the Truman Show, there's parts that are raining down. 1111 00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:33.599 He sees it, and again it really not even like 1112 00:55:33.719 --> 00:55:35.840 only if you've been on a set. No, like anybody 1113 00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:37.679 could look at that until that was a light. It 1114 00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:40.639 was an aircraft that was shedding parts. But thankfully nobody 1115 00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:42.480 was hurting. Like everybody just goes about their day. 1116 00:55:43.079 --> 00:55:45.000 No, no big deal here. Yeah. 1117 00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:47.639 Yeah, So it's the beginning that he's starting to wake 1118 00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:49.159 up just tiny little weird things. 1119 00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:50.960 But whatever, I'm just gonna write it off. 1120 00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:53.679 I don't know what to do with it, right, So 1121 00:55:53.960 --> 00:55:57.280 next we get to his job and Truman he sits 1122 00:55:57.320 --> 00:55:59.199 at his desk and we find out that he has 1123 00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:01.280 a so he has anname plate that's sitting on his desk, 1124 00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:03.840 and we find out his full name is Truman Burbank 1125 00:56:03.880 --> 00:56:06.360 for the first time in the movie. Right, seems like 1126 00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:09.599 a normal name until you start breaking into the esoteric 1127 00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:13.639 symbolism of his name. Truman is obvious, it's true human, 1128 00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:16.679 the divine spark is as the Gnostics would call it. 1129 00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:18.960 But Burbank is where it gets kind of wild. And 1130 00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:23.480 I bet you're gonna fucking love this one. So, uh, 1131 00:56:23.719 --> 00:56:29.000 Burbank is so it's symbolic of Burbank, California, where all 1132 00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:33.159 of the TV studios and Hollywood in general are right, 1133 00:56:33.559 --> 00:56:37.039 So it is the epicenter of scripts and sets. And 1134 00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:41.960 so his name being Truman Burbank literally translates to man 1135 00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:43.679 of the studio system. 1136 00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:52.239 That means right. Wow. Just symbolically it ties in perfectly. Uh. 1137 00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:56.320 Then comes the second time something strange happens to Truman. 1138 00:56:56.519 --> 00:56:59.400 He's outside, sitting by the beach, contemplating his fear of 1139 00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:02.519 the water because that is where his dad allegedly died 1140 00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:03.239 on the boat. 1141 00:57:03.559 --> 00:57:03.760 Right. 1142 00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:08.280 So, as he's sitting there contemplating, it starts to rain 1143 00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:11.840 only where he is. He moves and the rain follows him. 1144 00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:14.639 We can look at this moment as Truman beginning to 1145 00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:17.920 awaken a little bit, but when the rain follows him, 1146 00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:21.679 it's his. You can just get an esoteric here, You 1147 00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:24.679 can look at that as his consciousness is being tested, 1148 00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:27.519 his illusion is being tested, like am I seeing what 1149 00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:28.519 I'm seeing right now? 1150 00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:31.480 Like? What the fuck is really going on? Right? And 1151 00:57:31.840 --> 00:57:36.920 so it's like the first moment of awakening, almost like 1152 00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:40.079 whenever you're asking yourself like why am I noticing this? 1153 00:57:40.119 --> 00:57:42.519 And why doesn't anybody else see it? And is there 1154 00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:45.639 something wrong with me? And once he starts to realize that, 1155 00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:49.079 it begins to rain everywhere. Back to rational thought and 1156 00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:52.639 return back to sleep, because you need more than just 1157 00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:55.639 a nugget to push you all the way right, But 1158 00:57:55.679 --> 00:57:58.280 these are tiny little things that they're going to start 1159 00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:01.440 adding up over time over over throughout the course of 1160 00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:01.880 the movie. 1161 00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:06.480 Yeah, I mean that makes sense to me. Also, I 1162 00:58:06.519 --> 00:58:08.119 remember the scene where he like stepped out of the 1163 00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:10.400 rain then followed him He's like, am I crazy? 1164 00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:11.239 Next thing? 1165 00:58:11.280 --> 00:58:14.960 You know, it's everywhere you are crazy. Just don't even 1166 00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:17.519 question the thing that you just know for a fact 1167 00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:20.159 that you saw. No one's gonna believe you. Just just 1168 00:58:20.320 --> 00:58:23.159 take it and move on to the next topic, you know. 1169 00:58:24.119 --> 00:58:24.320 Yeah. 1170 00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:29.119 Yeah, And so fear is the best control mechanism. Everybody 1171 00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:31.880 knows this, right, Like anybody who has ever been in 1172 00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:35.199 a bad relationship, Maybe you had shitty parents, maybe you 1173 00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:38.320 had a terrible boss at work, whatever it is. Sometimes 1174 00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:40.119 you got controlling friends, right. 1175 00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:41.360 Whatever that is. 1176 00:58:41.559 --> 00:58:45.000 Fear is the best control mechanism. You inspire fear, you 1177 00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:48.679 will get them in line. And that's unfortunately, the nature 1178 00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:51.639 of this reality. It's the nature of his reality as well. 1179 00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:57.280 So water is Truman's primary fear, his father's death and 1180 00:58:57.360 --> 00:59:01.400 quotations is stage trauma. They literally built it in so 1181 00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:04.159 that he would never try to escape the island. They 1182 00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:06.679 wanted him to be scared of the water, right, that's 1183 00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:08.840 built into to his like reality. 1184 00:59:08.920 --> 00:59:10.599 Oh and you could tell whenever he tried going to 1185 00:59:10.599 --> 00:59:13.639 the travel agency, they all this travel agency had a 1186 00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:16.280 bunch of posters on the wall planes getting struck by 1187 00:59:16.360 --> 00:59:17.239 lightning and shit. 1188 00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:21.320 And it's like no travel agency would have that. They 1189 00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:26.119 would have pictures of very scenic beaches and mountain bungalows 1190 00:59:26.239 --> 00:59:28.480 and like all these little these log caving getaways. 1191 00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:31.440 They would not have. Ha, this could be you if 1192 00:59:31.480 --> 00:59:34.920 you travel with us. That's the worst marketing platform ever. 1193 00:59:34.960 --> 00:59:35.960 But like that was a part of. 1194 00:59:35.960 --> 00:59:37.320 The whole the whole stick. 1195 00:59:38.119 --> 00:59:39.960 Yeah, dude, And there's a bunch of that kind of 1196 00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:44.400 shit that reinforces his his fear, right, so they had 1197 00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:48.119 the One of his coworkers came up to him and said, hey, 1198 00:59:48.159 --> 00:59:50.360 I hear that they're actually gonna be they're gonna be 1199 00:59:50.360 --> 00:59:52.199 making some cuts, so you got to make sure you're 1200 00:59:52.239 --> 00:59:55.360 doing your job really good, and then went on to 1201 00:59:55.400 --> 00:59:57.480 tell him that like, all right, well, look, if you 1202 00:59:57.480 --> 00:59:59.119 want to make sure you keep your job, you're gonna 1203 00:59:59.119 --> 01:00:00.880 have to take this job. You're gonna have to go 1204 01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:03.719 and have this meeting with this other person in this 1205 01:00:03.880 --> 01:00:06.360 other town, which meant that he had to cross the 1206 01:00:06.360 --> 01:00:08.719 bridge or take a ferry or whatever to get over 1207 01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:11.599 to this other town. So he goes, and he's like scared, 1208 01:00:11.639 --> 01:00:13.880 he doesn't want to do it, but he's like, I'll 1209 01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:14.239 try it. 1210 01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:16.800 I'll do it. I don't want to lose my job, right, And. 1211 01:00:16.760 --> 01:00:19.400 So he goes to pay for the ticket at the 1212 01:00:19.440 --> 01:00:22.440 ferry and he has to walk on a dock to 1213 01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:25.039 get to the ferry. So he's walking down the dock 1214 01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:27.639 and he looks over at the water. He's already shit 1215 01:00:27.639 --> 01:00:29.960 in his pants, right, He's already like shaking in his boots. 1216 01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:33.159 But then he goes over and looks off the side 1217 01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:35.880 in the water, on next to the dock, and he 1218 01:00:35.960 --> 01:00:40.119 sees a sunken little like fishing boat or like a 1219 01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:43.039 pi row or some shit, right, and it scares him, 1220 01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:45.199 and he's like because it reminds him of his dad 1221 01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:46.639 whenever his dad died out there. 1222 01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:49.119 So he's like, I'm that's it. I can't do it 1223 01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:52.639 and walks back. And so it's all fear conditioning. Every 1224 01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:56.280 single part of his reality is trying to condition him 1225 01:00:56.440 --> 01:00:59.760 to not want to leave, right. And I feel like 1226 01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:02.280 a people kind of live that way in real life too. 1227 01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:06.519 Yeah, No, I absolutely agree. There's so many people that 1228 01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:11.000 And whether it's leaving where you currently live, or staying 1229 01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:13.920 in the relationship that you're in that you're miserable and 1230 01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:17.239 want to make a break but you can't, or whether 1231 01:01:17.280 --> 01:01:21.639 it's looking at certain information conspiratorial in nature, where as 1232 01:01:21.639 --> 01:01:25.320 soon as you start looking something from way off into 1233 01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:27.960 the back of the left field of your brain comes 1234 01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:31.599 out and says, hey, stop that, you're being crazy right now, 1235 01:01:31.679 --> 01:01:35.159 Let's get back to reality over here. Let's stop being 1236 01:01:35.159 --> 01:01:38.360 crazy and looking at those other things. Let's go back 1237 01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:41.039 to what we know to be normal. I feel like 1238 01:01:41.079 --> 01:01:43.400 that's all in the same conversation. 1239 01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:46.199 And you never grow. You know, you're stuck in stagnation. 1240 01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:50.199 Whenever you whenever you find yourself crippled and paralyzed by fear, 1241 01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:53.840 you're never going to grow in any kind of way, 1242 01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:58.400 whether it be mentally, physically, spiritually, whatever. If there's something 1243 01:01:58.400 --> 01:01:59.800 that is holding you back, it's going to hold you 1244 01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:01.119 back in all parts of your life. 1245 01:02:01.320 --> 01:02:01.440 Right. 1246 01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:05.760 So, the fear that he that you know from the water, 1247 01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:08.639 the fear keeps him landlocked and makes him not want 1248 01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:11.960 to ever leave. But it also prevents in as far 1249 01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:16.920 as gnosticism, fear prevents transcendence, so to be to ever 1250 01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:20.119 go beyond the illusion, you can never have fear. If 1251 01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:23.199 you have fear, fear is going to tea is going 1252 01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:26.480 to keep you tied to the illusion. As far as 1253 01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:30.119 the Gnostics, they also believe that fear binds your soul 1254 01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:35.239 to the material world. So okay, now you're heavier, right, 1255 01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:39.760 you're never going to transcend anything. And also trauma creates obedience, 1256 01:02:40.039 --> 01:02:44.320 That's what the Gnostics taught. The next seed of awakening 1257 01:02:44.440 --> 01:02:46.639 happens as he's walking down the street and he sees 1258 01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:50.119 his dad, who allegedly died. The matrix is beginning to crumble. 1259 01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:52.239 He goes and tells his mom, and then the mom 1260 01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:54.360 tells his wife, and the wife is obviously part of 1261 01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:56.159 the matrix, so she's shruggling it off too. 1262 01:02:56.559 --> 01:02:58.760 But all these little seeds are starting to add up. 1263 01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:00.400 He's all his dad. He's like, I know, oh I 1264 01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:04.199 saw him. I saw him. And the mom's like, oh yeah, honey, 1265 01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:06.599 I see him at least ten times a week. Yeah. 1266 01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:07.960 I think about him all the time. 1267 01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:08.400 Right. 1268 01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:11.119 He's like, does dad have a brother or something? She's like, 1269 01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:13.960 you know, your dad was an only child, just like you. 1270 01:03:14.039 --> 01:03:17.400 There's nobody that looks like him. Stop all this bullshit. 1271 01:03:17.599 --> 01:03:18.199 I remember that. 1272 01:03:18.280 --> 01:03:22.480 Yeah, that's you. Your memory of this movie? Have you 1273 01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:24.880 seen it recently? No, I've just seen it probably upwards 1274 01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:26.639 up a hundred times. I'ma be honest with you. I 1275 01:03:26.679 --> 01:03:30.079 do love this movie. Yeah, it is a classic. Yeah. Plus, 1276 01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:31.880 Jim Carrey's the fucking man he is. 1277 01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:37.119 I know some people some people don't find him funny. Okay, fine, 1278 01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:40.920 everybody's got their jam. I think he's hilarious, you know, 1279 01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:43.920 And I feel like The Truman Show was a chef's 1280 01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:48.119 kiss as far as the a movie going into this 1281 01:03:48.239 --> 01:03:51.480 level of like there's cameras everywhere watching you, Cause that's 1282 01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:54.800 like an inherent fear that people have whenever like somebody's 1283 01:03:54.800 --> 01:03:57.039 picking their nose or something, they flick it away or 1284 01:03:57.079 --> 01:03:59.519 whatever they're thinking, like, god, I hope the mind saw me. Yo, 1285 01:03:59.599 --> 01:04:02.599 what if there was probably upwards of one hundred cameras 1286 01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:05.559 watching you and all of your life is actually a joke. 1287 01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:09.639 Everybody that you've ever known, including your spouse, is in 1288 01:04:09.719 --> 01:04:10.119 on it. 1289 01:04:10.159 --> 01:04:13.800 And it's like that is somewhere deep down a recessive 1290 01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:16.639 fear that people have real shit because everybody suffers from 1291 01:04:16.719 --> 01:04:20.480 main character syndrome in their own shape, shape, ways, and forms, 1292 01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:22.639 and that's nothing wrong with everybody suffers from that in 1293 01:04:22.679 --> 01:04:26.360 the same way. But the Truman Show put that on 1294 01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:28.679 the screen for you to be like, oh shit, now 1295 01:04:28.760 --> 01:04:29.559 that that could be. 1296 01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:32.360 Oh my god all the way on blast. 1297 01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:36.320 Yeah, yeah, you want to talk about just losing your 1298 01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:37.159 fucking mind. 1299 01:04:37.400 --> 01:04:40.400 The next time I hear somebody give me a fucking commercial, 1300 01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:43.800 like in real life about some product, Oh my god, 1301 01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:47.199 you haven't tried dot dot dot thing. Oh my god, 1302 01:04:47.199 --> 01:04:49.719 it's the best, And they start listing off all these 1303 01:04:49.719 --> 01:04:50.679 things about it, and it's. 1304 01:04:50.559 --> 01:04:53.639 Like, Yo, who are you talking to right now? What 1305 01:04:53.679 --> 01:04:55.920 the fuck are you doing? Are you getting paid by 1306 01:04:55.960 --> 01:04:57.840 them to talk about this product to me? 1307 01:04:58.039 --> 01:04:59.920 Or are you just this much of a believer? Because 1308 01:04:59.920 --> 01:05:02.239 I refuse to believe that, So what the fuck? Though 1309 01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:04.360 it's a thing, it is absolutely a thing. 1310 01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:08.880 Well that leads us to has anybody ever tried organic 1311 01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:10.400 green coffee enemas? 1312 01:05:10.440 --> 01:05:13.039 And if you have, everyone, I'm just kidding. I'm kidding, 1313 01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:16.960 I'm kidding. So anyway, back to the movie here. 1314 01:05:17.039 --> 01:05:20.199 So the next scene, it jumps to uh where he 1315 01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:23.719 meets Sylvia right the matrix is obviously trying to push 1316 01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:26.360 the narrative that he's scripted to be with the clumsy 1317 01:05:26.440 --> 01:05:29.800 cheerleader named Merrill, but he's fascinated by Sylvia. 1318 01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:32.159 He's like, you know, he's he's up there. I think 1319 01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:32.679 he was in the. 1320 01:05:32.639 --> 01:05:36.199 Band or something like that, and uh, Meryll and Marlin, 1321 01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:39.239 his soon to be wife and his best friend are 1322 01:05:39.239 --> 01:05:42.079 both in the band. And she trips and falls and 1323 01:05:42.159 --> 01:05:44.280 the whole thing. She's basically trying to flirt with him 1324 01:05:44.280 --> 01:05:45.960 to try and get him, because that's the way the 1325 01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:50.159 script is written. But he sees Sylvia from beyond sitting 1326 01:05:50.159 --> 01:05:51.760 over by the trees reading a book or some shit, 1327 01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:53.159 and they lock eyes and that was. 1328 01:05:53.119 --> 01:05:58.559 It, dude, they were fucking in right and uh so yeah. 1329 01:05:58.599 --> 01:06:00.960 So he meets the cheer leader falls into his lap, 1330 01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:03.360 but he is fascinated by Sylvia. He ends up seeing 1331 01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:06.119 Sylvia again for the third time. He sees her once 1332 01:06:06.159 --> 01:06:09.960 at the park. The second time was at like a 1333 01:06:10.119 --> 01:06:12.679 dance or something like a homecoming dance or some kind 1334 01:06:12.679 --> 01:06:14.920 of shit, and he's trying to dance with her, but 1335 01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:17.119 they take her away. The third time he sees her 1336 01:06:17.159 --> 01:06:19.480 is the final time that he sees her, and it's 1337 01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:21.599 the only time that he ever talks to her, and 1338 01:06:21.679 --> 01:06:24.880 that is that is whenever he sees her in the library, 1339 01:06:25.199 --> 01:06:27.719 and she's in a rush to take him somewhere now 1340 01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:30.840 or else they will not get another opportunity. So they 1341 01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:33.039 sneak off to the beach and she tells him that 1342 01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:36.280 his whole reality is fake. It's all scripted, and they're 1343 01:06:36.280 --> 01:06:39.239 gonna they're gonna come get her, so she has to 1344 01:06:39.280 --> 01:06:40.920 say whatever she has to say, she has to say 1345 01:06:40.920 --> 01:06:44.199 it quickly. Next a man comes racing down the beach 1346 01:06:44.239 --> 01:06:47.079 and shitty little car to come and get her, and 1347 01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:48.599 she goes and looks at Truman. 1348 01:06:48.679 --> 01:06:50.199 She goes, she says they're here. 1349 01:06:50.519 --> 01:06:53.199 The man gets out of the car, says that he's 1350 01:06:53.239 --> 01:06:56.480 her dad and that she's just a schizophrenic and don't 1351 01:06:56.480 --> 01:06:58.719 bother finding her because she's moving to Fiji. 1352 01:06:58.800 --> 01:06:59.000 Right. 1353 01:06:59.199 --> 01:07:02.719 She also the dad was also like, look, she brings 1354 01:07:02.719 --> 01:07:05.079 all of her boyfriends here. You're you're not the first one. 1355 01:07:05.079 --> 01:07:07.599 You're not the first one, just reinforcing that, like she's 1356 01:07:07.639 --> 01:07:10.760 a schizophrenic, fucking psycho whore, and that's why he's talking 1357 01:07:10.760 --> 01:07:12.119 about his daughter essentially. 1358 01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:14.199 Right, And she's like, I've never seen this man before 1359 01:07:14.199 --> 01:07:15.880 in my life, honey, how could you say that I'm 1360 01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:16.360 your dad? 1361 01:07:16.480 --> 01:07:17.360 Like what were talking about? 1362 01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:17.519 Here? 1363 01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:19.639 Get in the car, goes, well, wait, where are you going? Fiji? 1364 01:07:19.679 --> 01:07:20.760 We're moving to Fiji. 1365 01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:22.920 And just takes the fuck off, and it's like, why 1366 01:07:22.920 --> 01:07:24.960 would they say Fiji is because when he looked at 1367 01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:28.000 the globe, it is the furthest fucking place from where 1368 01:07:28.039 --> 01:07:32.000 he is currently located, and it's it's all very very scripted, 1369 01:07:32.239 --> 01:07:35.119 but yeah, I mean it starts to break his illusion, 1370 01:07:35.639 --> 01:07:39.719 but he also continues because this is all he's ever known. 1371 01:07:40.760 --> 01:07:43.320 How do you go from accepting that the sky is 1372 01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:46.000 green your entire fucking life and then somebody tells you 1373 01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:48.440 the sky is blue, and then they take off and 1374 01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:51.840 it's like, okay, wait, wait a second, that that that 1375 01:07:52.039 --> 01:07:54.480 deeply recedes into your mind for. 1376 01:07:54.440 --> 01:07:57.760 Sure, and that one to come to come and uh 1377 01:07:58.159 --> 01:08:01.280 tell you all of this stuff? Is it schizophrenic that 1378 01:08:01.360 --> 01:08:03.400 she brings all of her boyfriends to the to the 1379 01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:06.639 place that you feel like is very special And now 1380 01:08:06.679 --> 01:08:09.599 she's moving to Fiji. Which even that he's talking to 1381 01:08:09.679 --> 01:08:13.159 his boy and he's talking about Fiji, he goes, it 1382 01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:16.279 is the farthest way. That is the farthest place that 1383 01:08:16.319 --> 01:08:18.920 you can get from right here. You can't go any 1384 01:08:18.960 --> 01:08:21.399 farther without making your way back. Yeah, Like that's how 1385 01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:22.479 far away it is. 1386 01:08:22.520 --> 01:08:25.800 It's the exact most far you can possibly get from 1387 01:08:25.840 --> 01:08:26.720 that destination. 1388 01:08:27.239 --> 01:08:29.680 And clearly she never went to Fiji, right, Like she 1389 01:08:29.800 --> 01:08:31.399 just got kicked out of the studio. 1390 01:08:31.119 --> 01:08:34.880 Essentially, which even in and of itself, if he was 1391 01:08:34.880 --> 01:08:37.800 trying to go to some remote place that nobody can go, 1392 01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:41.880 the dad quote unquote clearly not her dad, like we 1393 01:08:42.039 --> 01:08:44.960 know that, right, But he could have said, I'm a scientist, 1394 01:08:44.960 --> 01:08:47.119 We're moving to Antarctica for a research project. 1395 01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:48.000 B bah bah ba back. 1396 01:08:48.279 --> 01:08:51.640 It could have been some crazy, obscure thing Fiji is 1397 01:08:51.640 --> 01:08:54.560 a place that people go every fucking day for vacation. 1398 01:08:55.159 --> 01:08:57.399 Like it's it's not an inaccessible place. 1399 01:08:58.000 --> 01:09:00.960 It's because it was the furthest is because it was 1400 01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:05.199 the most the most miles you can go before everything 1401 01:09:05.199 --> 01:09:07.800 else goes apart and it and of course it wasn't 1402 01:09:07.800 --> 01:09:10.880 even real, But that's not the point. Because he's afraid 1403 01:09:10.920 --> 01:09:13.119 to even cross a bridge to get onto a. 1404 01:09:13.039 --> 01:09:15.720 Ferry, let alone the entire globe to get to the 1405 01:09:15.720 --> 01:09:16.680 island of Fiji. 1406 01:09:17.840 --> 01:09:21.239 Yeah, you're more likely to literally meet any other person 1407 01:09:21.479 --> 01:09:25.960 in the entire world first before you ever see Sylvia 1408 01:09:26.079 --> 01:09:28.640 in Fiji Exact's basically what he's trying to say, right. 1409 01:09:29.720 --> 01:09:32.359 And but Sylvia is the spark that follows him. 1410 01:09:32.479 --> 01:09:35.359 She's the reason that he takes h that he takes action, 1411 01:09:35.560 --> 01:09:38.399 and at at least at a subconscious level, has a 1412 01:09:38.479 --> 01:09:42.199 need for truth. Right, And she's on his mind all 1413 01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:44.239 the time. He's always trying to create little you know, 1414 01:09:44.359 --> 01:09:49.359 magazine what are they collage collages or whatever? Right, And 1415 01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:51.399 and that's like his reason from wanting to get the 1416 01:09:51.439 --> 01:09:55.720 fuck out of Sea Haven. So she's his driving factors 1417 01:09:55.800 --> 01:09:58.880 to escape the matrix. And gnostically, as I was talking 1418 01:09:58.880 --> 01:10:03.279 about earlier. Sylvia represents Sophia, which is the divine wisdom 1419 01:10:03.319 --> 01:10:04.199 that is helping him. 1420 01:10:04.359 --> 01:10:09.399 Remember. Interestingly enough, her scripted reality name in the actual 1421 01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:14.439 on the show set is Lauren, so it wasn't always Sylvia. 1422 01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:16.159 Her real name in reality is. 1423 01:10:16.119 --> 01:10:20.800 Sylvia in the movie and in the actual show, she 1424 01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:23.800 was scripted with the name Lauren, And I thought, oh, 1425 01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:24.399 that's interesting. 1426 01:10:24.399 --> 01:10:29.720 I bet you there's something there. So I lost my 1427 01:10:29.760 --> 01:10:32.199 fucking spot. Sorry about that. Yeah, here we go. 1428 01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:36.880 Yeah, her outside of the matrix name is Sylvia. Lauren 1429 01:10:37.119 --> 01:10:43.279 actually stems from like where the name Lauren actually comes from. 1430 01:10:43.640 --> 01:10:47.039 It comes from Laurel, Okay. And you can take this 1431 01:10:47.119 --> 01:10:49.600 a bunch of different places. But what I thought was 1432 01:10:49.640 --> 01:10:55.880 pretty interesting is Laurel is ironically again another Hollywood reference 1433 01:10:56.000 --> 01:11:00.920 to Laurel Canyon, which is a neighborhood within the Hollywood basically, 1434 01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:04.479 just to show you that the entire reality is all Hollywood, right. 1435 01:11:04.479 --> 01:11:07.680 Even the one source of quote unquote truth was still 1436 01:11:07.680 --> 01:11:10.880 wrapped up in Hollywood mysticism. 1437 01:11:11.079 --> 01:11:12.399 Yeah exactly. Yes. 1438 01:11:13.199 --> 01:11:16.000 But since she breaks the fourth wall and tells him 1439 01:11:16.239 --> 01:11:19.319 that her name is Sylvia, which stems from the root 1440 01:11:19.319 --> 01:11:22.079 word silva, get this, dude. 1441 01:11:22.239 --> 01:11:26.520 The root word of Sylvia is silva, meaning the forest 1442 01:11:26.760 --> 01:11:34.239 or the wild, Okay, very symbolic here. She represents the wild, untamed, 1443 01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:37.920 unscripted nature that tries to tell Truman the truth of 1444 01:11:37.920 --> 01:11:40.960 his reality. And just like in ancient culture's, they send 1445 01:11:40.960 --> 01:11:43.720 off their youth into the forest for a week or 1446 01:11:43.800 --> 01:11:46.960 more and they're supposed to overcome their fears, and they 1447 01:11:47.319 --> 01:11:49.279 come back and they've overcome a lot of things. They 1448 01:11:49.279 --> 01:11:52.279 come to a lot of you know, divine spiritual understandings 1449 01:11:52.279 --> 01:11:54.760 about themselves and about the nature of their own reality 1450 01:11:54.840 --> 01:11:57.800 as a part of that as well, and so they 1451 01:11:57.840 --> 01:12:00.399 live without fear. That's basically why their parents would send. 1452 01:12:00.279 --> 01:12:00.800 Them out there. 1453 01:12:01.600 --> 01:12:03.640 And I don't know, I wonder if that's still going on. 1454 01:12:03.720 --> 01:12:06.279 I know it used to. Maybe there's like some tribe 1455 01:12:06.279 --> 01:12:09.800 somewhere that still do that, which I mean, I want 1456 01:12:09.840 --> 01:12:10.840 to do that with my kids. 1457 01:12:10.960 --> 01:12:14.840 I can't, cause like child endangerment laws or some shit, 1458 01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:17.960 but I do plan on bringing my children on survival 1459 01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:21.119 trips when they turn sixteen, each of them individually, and 1460 01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:22.640 we're going to go out into the woods with what 1461 01:12:22.680 --> 01:12:25.199 we can carry in our pockets. Fuck a bag, fuck 1462 01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:27.319 a sleeping bag or any of this, Like we're not 1463 01:12:27.359 --> 01:12:29.800 bringing a backpack. What we have in our pockets are 1464 01:12:29.840 --> 01:12:32.960 what we're gonna live on for the next three days. 1465 01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:36.159 However uncomfortable, that might be right, and there was multiple 1466 01:12:36.239 --> 01:12:38.399 Native American tribes that would do something similar. They would 1467 01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:40.000 bring their child out into the middle of the woods 1468 01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:43.920 when they would become a man, or to whatever age 1469 01:12:44.119 --> 01:12:46.319 or level of maturity they would look for on this, 1470 01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:49.840 they would blindfold them and they would sit them down 1471 01:12:49.880 --> 01:12:51.840 on a log or something and say, you have to 1472 01:12:51.880 --> 01:12:53.239 sit here all night long. 1473 01:12:53.640 --> 01:12:54.960 And if you if you. 1474 01:12:54.920 --> 01:12:58.239 Remove the blindfold, if you get scared and run away 1475 01:12:58.319 --> 01:13:00.920 or whatever like this, you failed the test. And if 1476 01:13:01.279 --> 01:13:03.840 the young boy that was trying to become a man 1477 01:13:03.960 --> 01:13:06.159 could sit there all night long, blindfold and all this 1478 01:13:06.199 --> 01:13:10.039 stuff throughout the night, the woods, the sounds, the rain, 1479 01:13:10.159 --> 01:13:12.840 the whatever. When the daylight broke and he could feel 1480 01:13:12.880 --> 01:13:15.439 the sun on his skin, he would remove his blindfold 1481 01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:20.079 and see his father sitting right next to him. That 1482 01:13:20.199 --> 01:13:22.720 was the whole point. It had nothing to do with 1483 01:13:22.840 --> 01:13:26.079 him like he was never in danger. His dad was 1484 01:13:26.119 --> 01:13:29.279 going to protect him regardless. It was about you proving 1485 01:13:29.359 --> 01:13:32.239 that you have no fear in you. And that was 1486 01:13:33.199 --> 01:13:34.800 I wish I could do that with my kids, but 1487 01:13:34.960 --> 01:13:37.439 good god, these days that'd be a whole Well, you're 1488 01:13:37.520 --> 01:13:38.840 messing with their psyche. 1489 01:13:39.279 --> 01:13:41.000 They need to grow up. It's time. 1490 01:13:41.159 --> 01:13:43.600 You know, when a kid's sixteen, it's time for him 1491 01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:44.359 to grow the fuck up. 1492 01:13:44.479 --> 01:13:47.000 But I know I'm just an asshole for that. 1493 01:13:47.439 --> 01:13:49.880 How about TV is fucking with their psyche more than 1494 01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:50.479 anything else? 1495 01:13:50.560 --> 01:13:54.439 Oh, exact nature, you know what. That's funny too. 1496 01:13:54.560 --> 01:13:57.119 I mean not an exact like replica of your story, 1497 01:13:57.119 --> 01:13:59.880 but it reminded me. I was watching this clip from 1498 01:14:00.039 --> 01:14:02.760 ad Guru the other day and he was talking about like, uh, 1499 01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:06.560 Lord Shiva right within Hinduism, and he goes, do you 1500 01:14:06.600 --> 01:14:10.479 know why that there's always a snake around Lord Shiva? 1501 01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:14.439 And everybody's like, well, that's that's first Kundalini awakening, or 1502 01:14:14.880 --> 01:14:17.960 that's because he's evil or whatever, and he goes, that's 1503 01:14:17.960 --> 01:14:18.640 actually none of that. 1504 01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:20.279 The snake. 1505 01:14:20.439 --> 01:14:22.199 If you ever see like they do, they got this 1506 01:14:22.279 --> 01:14:26.000 fucking huge statue of Shiva over in India. It is massive. 1507 01:14:26.039 --> 01:14:28.359 Everybody gathers around and meditates around it and shit. But 1508 01:14:29.920 --> 01:14:32.000 so they got this huge statue and this snake is 1509 01:14:32.039 --> 01:14:36.319 sitting on Shiva's shoulder and like basically at eye level, 1510 01:14:36.399 --> 01:14:39.479 same eye level, right, And the idea was, is that 1511 01:14:39.920 --> 01:14:43.560 what the story of Shiva. I'm sure it's a myth, 1512 01:14:43.680 --> 01:14:46.079 but I'm sure people will probably take it literally too. 1513 01:14:46.159 --> 01:14:50.479 But it says it said that Lord Shiva, he went 1514 01:14:50.520 --> 01:14:54.439 out and like meditated at the top of one of 1515 01:14:54.439 --> 01:14:56.399 the mountains that are out there. I can never remember 1516 01:14:57.760 --> 01:14:59.840 himalayas he was he went out to the top of 1517 01:14:59.880 --> 01:15:02.800 the Himalayasm was meditating out there. It was never cold 1518 01:15:02.880 --> 01:15:05.720 or anything, and never never got you know, never got 1519 01:15:05.760 --> 01:15:08.199 hungry or never got cold sitting at the top of 1520 01:15:08.199 --> 01:15:12.199 the mountains. And it said that whenever he meditated, he uh, 1521 01:15:12.479 --> 01:15:16.439 he put himself into such a like a flow stape 1522 01:15:16.479 --> 01:15:20.159 type way that even the every time he opened his eyes, 1523 01:15:20.159 --> 01:15:21.840 there would always be these snakes that were all the 1524 01:15:21.840 --> 01:15:24.439 way around him, and he always wondered, like why are 1525 01:15:24.479 --> 01:15:26.960 they And then come to find out, I guess they 1526 01:15:27.319 --> 01:15:30.399 liked the vibration or whatever that he was putting off 1527 01:15:30.399 --> 01:15:32.640 so much and they wanted to be in that vibe 1528 01:15:32.720 --> 01:15:35.800 with him during meditation. And so as a result, that's 1529 01:15:35.800 --> 01:15:38.159 why Shiva is always seen with a snake on his shoulder, 1530 01:15:38.520 --> 01:15:41.600 because he looked at the snakes as look, if they 1531 01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:43.960 get down with this vibe, I have way more respect 1532 01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:46.000 for them than almost any other animal in. 1533 01:15:46.039 --> 01:15:51.319 Nature, So it's pretty good. I used to be scared of. 1534 01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:54.159 Him, but I actually I want to get a pet snake, dude, 1535 01:15:54.199 --> 01:15:56.279 of the ied of them. 1536 01:15:56.359 --> 01:15:59.560 They one of my favorite pets actually that I've that 1537 01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:04.680 I've had. Yeah, mine, I had one that was an asshole, 1538 01:16:04.720 --> 01:16:07.119 but he was also like abused and by like had 1539 01:16:07.159 --> 01:16:09.880 like four different owners by the time we got him, 1540 01:16:09.920 --> 01:16:13.479 because we rescued him, so we just knew that he 1541 01:16:13.520 --> 01:16:17.800 was abused apparently like was thrown around in different stuff, 1542 01:16:17.880 --> 01:16:20.520 so really just didn't fuck with humans very much. And 1543 01:16:20.520 --> 01:16:23.119 then I had my other one that was also a rescue, 1544 01:16:23.439 --> 01:16:25.680 but he was a baby when I got him, and 1545 01:16:25.720 --> 01:16:28.960 he'd like he something happened to him, and he pretty 1546 01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:32.680 much like his gross stunted. And so he was pretty small, honestly, 1547 01:16:32.840 --> 01:16:35.880 I mean he was only probably about this big, so 1548 01:16:36.079 --> 01:16:38.680 he wasn't very wasn't very big at all, and so 1549 01:16:38.760 --> 01:16:41.840 he his favorite thing was just to he would curl 1550 01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:43.880 around my neck and I'd wear him in my hoodies 1551 01:16:44.039 --> 01:16:47.359 and I'd wear him to school. Actually I'd take him 1552 01:16:47.399 --> 01:16:49.159 because I would only take him when I had like 1553 01:16:49.279 --> 01:16:51.479 a period or two, and you know, I had like 1554 01:16:51.760 --> 01:16:53.720 I had like a little snake water. 1555 01:16:53.479 --> 01:16:54.359 Bowl I would take with me. 1556 01:16:54.439 --> 01:16:58.359 It's ridiculous, but I am that white woman cliche of 1557 01:16:58.479 --> 01:16:59.880 having a random I. 1558 01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:03.720 Will, I will. 1559 01:17:03.880 --> 01:17:06.800 I will admit to it, you know, with the weird animals. 1560 01:17:06.840 --> 01:17:09.640 But yes, no, I definitely brought my snake everywhere with me. 1561 01:17:11.000 --> 01:17:13.760 He was such a sweetheart though. He was so sweet, 1562 01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:17.359 like give me kisses, and he was like he would 1563 01:17:17.399 --> 01:17:18.239 like kiss my lips. 1564 01:17:18.239 --> 01:17:19.399 I was like, you cute. 1565 01:17:20.800 --> 01:17:22.680 They're they're like pit bulls, dude, you treat him right. 1566 01:17:22.680 --> 01:17:24.520 They're probably not going to bite your fucking head off. 1567 01:17:25.119 --> 01:17:28.720 Yeah, I mean, yeah, but that I feel like pit 1568 01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:30.960 bulls and snakes are a different conversation. 1569 01:17:31.279 --> 01:17:33.119 I know I'm very biased on that. 1570 01:17:33.079 --> 01:17:35.840 But you know, I mean you've heard me explain though, 1571 01:17:35.920 --> 01:17:39.920 my snake and the emotion, the emotional damage he got 1572 01:17:39.960 --> 01:17:43.159 from this rat biting him because he was because my 1573 01:17:43.279 --> 01:17:45.640 ex set him a too big of a rat or 1574 01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:48.960 mouse or something and scared him and had like he 1575 01:17:49.039 --> 01:17:52.560 had like a whole stomach issue that happened and we 1576 01:17:52.600 --> 01:17:54.720 had to take him in to see the specialists, and 1577 01:17:54.800 --> 01:17:57.439 like it was a big thing. Like it took about, 1578 01:17:57.600 --> 01:18:00.199 I don't know, almost a year to heal him. Really, 1579 01:18:00.479 --> 01:18:02.800 we had to feed him dead frozen baby mice that 1580 01:18:02.800 --> 01:18:04.439 we'd had a heat up in the microwave, and then 1581 01:18:04.479 --> 01:18:07.279 it had to like pretty much help him eat them. 1582 01:18:07.680 --> 01:18:10.239 It took a long while to get him better and stuff. 1583 01:18:10.279 --> 01:18:13.399 But they have emotions, they really do. 1584 01:18:13.520 --> 01:18:16.079 I'm sure they smart creatures. They are smart creatures too. 1585 01:18:16.520 --> 01:18:18.720 Yeah, all right, yeah, let's get back to this because 1586 01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:21.079 I want to make sure everybody has time to go 1587 01:18:21.119 --> 01:18:22.359 over their topic here. 1588 01:18:22.239 --> 01:18:25.560 So moving on. So, yeah, Sylvia. 1589 01:18:25.920 --> 01:18:29.760 Sylvia represents divine knowledge that is only found by wandering 1590 01:18:29.800 --> 01:18:32.239 off into the forests, off the beaten path and coming 1591 01:18:32.279 --> 01:18:35.479 back with gnosis. She's the divine feminine wisdom who, in 1592 01:18:35.479 --> 01:18:40.119 Gnostic mythology, descends into matter to awaken trap soules and 1593 01:18:40.239 --> 01:18:45.199 guide them toward liberation. So that's what Sylvia represents from 1594 01:18:45.199 --> 01:18:51.399 the Gnostic understanding, you know, as Sophia gotcha. Next comes 1595 01:18:51.399 --> 01:18:54.520 a sequence of synchronicities. He turns on his radio and 1596 01:18:54.600 --> 01:18:57.800 here's that they're following his every move. What street he's 1597 01:18:57.840 --> 01:19:00.680 turning down, How he almost hits a woman while he's driving, 1598 01:19:00.720 --> 01:19:02.960 and all this shit right, and this causes him not 1599 01:19:03.079 --> 01:19:05.479 to go into work. He finds that he can stop 1600 01:19:05.560 --> 01:19:08.119 traffic and seems to the outside eye to be having 1601 01:19:08.199 --> 01:19:11.399 a crazy mental breakdown. He walks down the road into 1602 01:19:11.399 --> 01:19:13.760 a building and tries to get into an elevator, only 1603 01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:17.680 to find that it's behind it's a behind the scenes set. 1604 01:19:18.119 --> 01:19:21.039 Only do again go in confidence to his best friend Marlon, 1605 01:19:21.319 --> 01:19:25.000 who tries to lull him back to sleep with more beer. 1606 01:19:25.199 --> 01:19:27.439 Every time he sees Marlin, Marlin always got a fucking 1607 01:19:27.479 --> 01:19:31.840 six pack, right, yep, And so Marlin tries to tell him, 1608 01:19:32.279 --> 01:19:36.199 uh so, yeah. During that scene, he's he's having this breakdown, 1609 01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:38.520 but then go meet goes and meets his buddy Marlin. 1610 01:19:38.720 --> 01:19:41.560 Marlin is like a vending machine stalker or some kind 1611 01:19:41.560 --> 01:19:44.319 of shit, and and he's like, you gotta see this. 1612 01:19:44.359 --> 01:19:46.239 I'm telling you, you got to you gotta check all this out. 1613 01:19:46.439 --> 01:19:48.960 They end up going and having sitting and having a 1614 01:19:48.960 --> 01:19:51.239 beer somewhere and they just, you know, getting a little 1615 01:19:51.239 --> 01:19:55.039 philosophical about life and shit. And Marlin is trying to 1616 01:19:55.079 --> 01:19:58.600 tell him that there's nowhere he'd rather be than right here, 1617 01:19:58.800 --> 01:20:01.359 and he points at the sun and he goes, you 1618 01:20:01.399 --> 01:20:04.439 can't get those kind of sunset views like this anywhere 1619 01:20:04.439 --> 01:20:05.520 other than Sea Haven. 1620 01:20:05.840 --> 01:20:08.880 He says, that's the big guy. Quite a paint brush 1621 01:20:08.960 --> 01:20:13.199 he's got, seemingly referring to God. But the irony. 1622 01:20:12.800 --> 01:20:17.319 Is is Christoph is the creator and Marlon is actually 1623 01:20:17.359 --> 01:20:22.199 praising the Demiurge of Truman's reality. So and it's funny 1624 01:20:22.239 --> 01:20:26.720 because Marlin represents an arkhan. Christoph is the Demiurge, and 1625 01:20:26.840 --> 01:20:29.800 he's saying, quite the paint brush that God has got. 1626 01:20:30.119 --> 01:20:32.399 It is it is literally, it is an arkhan that 1627 01:20:32.479 --> 01:20:35.079 is praising the Demiurge if you look at it that way, right, 1628 01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:39.800 So in Gnosticism this is called the spirit of ignorance, 1629 01:20:40.039 --> 01:20:43.199 and Marlin, being one of the Demiurge's minions is one 1630 01:20:43.199 --> 01:20:47.319 of his arcons that makes souls complicit in their own imprisonment. 1631 01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:49.840 He's not telling him that he can't go, He's just 1632 01:20:49.920 --> 01:20:50.920 trying to give. 1633 01:20:50.840 --> 01:20:55.039 Him reasons why he shouldn't right right, and reinforcing the 1634 01:20:55.119 --> 01:20:58.239 ideology that you don't need to go anywhere else. And 1635 01:20:58.560 --> 01:21:00.479 you know, Marlin, along with everybody else in the show, 1636 01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:04.800 is constantly trying to do the same thing. So a 1637 01:21:04.920 --> 01:21:07.439 later scene shows Truman sitting in his car This is 1638 01:21:07.479 --> 01:21:10.800 one of my favorite scenes. He's sitting in his car 1639 01:21:10.840 --> 01:21:13.600 and he's observing what is happening in his rear view mirror. 1640 01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:16.840 He notices what happens is a cycle, a lady on 1641 01:21:16.880 --> 01:21:19.359 a bike, followed by a man walking with flowers, and 1642 01:21:19.399 --> 01:21:22.880 finally a Volkswagen Beetle with a dented fender. He tells 1643 01:21:22.880 --> 01:21:25.439 his wife to get into the car and observe, and 1644 01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:28.079 the cycle happens again, just as he's. 1645 01:21:27.920 --> 01:21:32.000 Predicted, but she's not listening, she's not interested. He wants 1646 01:21:32.039 --> 01:21:35.119 her to see that he's noticed that his reality has 1647 01:21:35.239 --> 01:21:38.680 become scripted, and by convincing her, maybe he can convince 1648 01:21:38.760 --> 01:21:41.840 himself that he's not crazy. Right, But you can't force 1649 01:21:41.920 --> 01:21:45.119 someone else to awaken until they're ready, if they ever are, 1650 01:21:45.560 --> 01:21:48.720 as the saying goes, it's impossible to wake someone up 1651 01:21:49.479 --> 01:21:53.000 if they're pretending to be asleep, which is perfect for 1652 01:21:53.079 --> 01:21:53.720 this scene. 1653 01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:57.840 Right. So then he locks her inside the car. Oh 1654 01:21:57.960 --> 01:22:00.000 that's right, she goes, Yeah, we can go to fet 1655 01:22:00.279 --> 01:22:01.680 We just got to save up for a couple of 1656 01:22:01.680 --> 01:22:03.640 months and you know, and then we'll go. We'll go 1657 01:22:03.680 --> 01:22:06.600 to Fiji. Right in Evily, it's never going to happen. 1658 01:22:06.640 --> 01:22:08.000 But she's just trying to get him off of this 1659 01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:10.760 cliff that he's on, right, And so he goes and 1660 01:22:11.039 --> 01:22:13.520 he locks her inside the car, and he goes, ah, 1661 01:22:13.560 --> 01:22:15.600 I think we're gonna go to Fiji right now, not 1662 01:22:15.760 --> 01:22:18.039 in a few months. So the door's lock and he 1663 01:22:18.119 --> 01:22:20.479 pulls off, and then you see the license plate which 1664 01:22:20.520 --> 01:22:24.000 says see Haven Island, a nice place to live. The 1665 01:22:24.079 --> 01:22:26.359 license plate numbers, and you only see this one time 1666 01:22:26.359 --> 01:22:28.159 throughout the entire movie, so I was like, all right, 1667 01:22:28.199 --> 01:22:31.159 I bet there's something to it. The license plate numbers 1668 01:22:31.199 --> 01:22:36.720 read eight one six k A Z. Now, applying numerology 1669 01:22:36.880 --> 01:22:41.159 and gamatria to this sequence of numbers, if you reduce 1670 01:22:41.279 --> 01:22:44.079 eight one six to one number, it gives you six, 1671 01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:48.800 which does stand for man or harmony. So the number six, 1672 01:22:49.119 --> 01:22:52.720 as it's represented with the numerology, stands for man or harmony, 1673 01:22:52.960 --> 01:22:54.159 not man as in penis. 1674 01:22:54.199 --> 01:22:54.960 Man is in human. 1675 01:22:55.159 --> 01:23:01.239 Right, ka Z reduces to eleven, which is a master number. 1676 01:23:01.279 --> 01:23:05.039 So within numerology, every number, every big sequence of numbers, 1677 01:23:05.079 --> 01:23:08.880 always boils down to one single digit unless it is 1678 01:23:08.920 --> 01:23:11.800 an eleven, a, twenty two, or thirty three. Those are 1679 01:23:11.840 --> 01:23:16.079 called master numbers or master builder numbers. Right, So the 1680 01:23:16.159 --> 01:23:19.199 kaz reduces to eleven, which is a master number that 1681 01:23:19.239 --> 01:23:24.239 through a gnostic lens, means that awareness is breaking its containment. 1682 01:23:24.840 --> 01:23:28.560 Literally what it means. So his license plate literally reads 1683 01:23:28.840 --> 01:23:34.199 like man is breaking his containment esoterically. Why Wow, that's 1684 01:23:34.359 --> 01:23:35.239 crazy like. 1685 01:23:35.159 --> 01:23:39.439 That right, yeah, dude, So, long story short, He's trying 1686 01:23:39.439 --> 01:23:41.720 to drive his way out of town and keeps coming 1687 01:23:41.800 --> 01:23:44.960 up on obstacle after obstacle, only to be caught by 1688 01:23:44.960 --> 01:23:47.159 the police and brought back home where he confronts his 1689 01:23:47.199 --> 01:23:50.039 wife and he says that she's in on it, and 1690 01:23:50.079 --> 01:23:53.439 she feels threatened, and again his buddy Marlin comes to 1691 01:23:53.479 --> 01:23:56.079 the rescue with another six pack of beer. As they 1692 01:23:56.119 --> 01:23:59.239 go out to have a chat, Marlin convinces him that 1693 01:23:59.319 --> 01:24:01.720 if the whole thing is made up, then he's made 1694 01:24:01.800 --> 01:24:02.600 up too, and. 1695 01:24:02.600 --> 01:24:06.880 How could he question their friendship? Yeah, esoterically Marlin. 1696 01:24:07.520 --> 01:24:10.439 So that's interesting right there, right, Like that's that's gaslighting 1697 01:24:10.439 --> 01:24:15.199 if you ever fucking heard it. Oh definition classic, Yes, So, 1698 01:24:15.680 --> 01:24:18.479 esoterically speaking, Marlin is close to. 1699 01:24:18.439 --> 01:24:19.600 The name Merlin. 1700 01:24:20.359 --> 01:24:21.920 So we're gonna get a little We're gonna get a 1701 01:24:21.920 --> 01:24:26.319 little wizardy up in here. Merlin always shows up as 1702 01:24:26.359 --> 01:24:29.239 different people in the lore, right, pretending to be different 1703 01:24:29.279 --> 01:24:32.800 people to teach the initiate lessons along the way quietly 1704 01:24:32.880 --> 01:24:38.079 and unnoticeably. Okay, so if you're trying to become initiated 1705 01:24:38.159 --> 01:24:40.479 and you think that your teacher is always around, then 1706 01:24:40.520 --> 01:24:43.479 you're never gonna fuck off and make a mistake or whatever. Right, 1707 01:24:43.760 --> 01:24:45.680 But if you don't know that your teachers around, then 1708 01:24:45.720 --> 01:24:47.560 maybe you'll slack off a little bit. And that's where 1709 01:24:47.600 --> 01:24:49.960 Merlin comes in, because he's like a shape shifter, or 1710 01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:52.760 he wears this cloak and he's changing is his identity 1711 01:24:53.039 --> 01:24:55.479 just for the person that he's trying to teach, essentially, right, 1712 01:24:57.279 --> 01:25:02.239 and more on Marlin here in just a little bit. 1713 01:25:04.079 --> 01:25:06.079 I keep on losing my spot because I wrote all 1714 01:25:06.159 --> 01:25:11.800 these like fucking twenty sentence paragraphs like an idiot, not. 1715 01:25:11.800 --> 01:25:16.800 Like an essay. Oh okay, here we are. So next 1716 01:25:16.840 --> 01:25:20.119 we get to hear from Christoph, known as the show's 1717 01:25:20.239 --> 01:25:23.840 conceiver and creator. It says that who. 1718 01:25:23.640 --> 01:25:26.079 Lives on the two hundred and twenty first floor of 1719 01:25:26.119 --> 01:25:31.880 the Omnikam Echosphere, which literally is Truman's God that sees 1720 01:25:31.880 --> 01:25:36.119 all and hears all from a lunar echosphere, his demiurch. 1721 01:25:36.640 --> 01:25:39.640 Then Sylvia calls the show that is in that is 1722 01:25:39.680 --> 01:25:43.000 interviewing Christoph. So Christoph is being interviewed by a TV channel. 1723 01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:46.600 They open the phone line for you know, regular people 1724 01:25:46.640 --> 01:25:49.319 to call in, and Sylvia just so happens to get through, 1725 01:25:49.479 --> 01:25:52.079 and she's she's trying to fucking give the business to 1726 01:25:52.199 --> 01:25:54.880 Christoph because she loves Truman and she thinks that what 1727 01:25:54.920 --> 01:25:56.560 he's doing is wrong, right, right. 1728 01:25:58.079 --> 01:26:01.560 So she goes she's says that he's. 1729 01:26:01.319 --> 01:26:04.640 A liar and a manipulator, and he tells her, do 1730 01:26:04.720 --> 01:26:07.000 you think that because you batted your rise at him, 1731 01:26:07.119 --> 01:26:09.880 flirted with him, and stole a few minutes of the limelight, 1732 01:26:09.960 --> 01:26:11.840 that you're in any position to judge me? 1733 01:26:12.439 --> 01:26:12.920 Literally? 1734 01:26:13.279 --> 01:26:18.960 It is the Demiurge arguing with wisdom about judgment, just 1735 01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:21.520 to paint a clear picture here, right, Yeah, So the 1736 01:26:21.520 --> 01:26:26.479 Demiurge me and Christoph, and she represents Sophia and they're 1737 01:26:26.479 --> 01:26:28.279 talking about like judgment. 1738 01:26:28.520 --> 01:26:30.520 So it's it's just kind of funny. Wow. 1739 01:26:31.479 --> 01:26:34.520 So yeah, dude, this movie just is so deep, dude, 1740 01:26:34.600 --> 01:26:38.840 from start to finish, it just never ends. And so 1741 01:26:39.960 --> 01:26:42.680 let's see, Christoph goes on to say, he goes he 1742 01:26:42.720 --> 01:26:45.039 can leave at any time. There's no way we can 1743 01:26:45.079 --> 01:26:48.159 prevent him. What I think distresses you, Sylvia is that 1744 01:26:48.239 --> 01:26:52.439 Truman prefers his cell. He then says that the next 1745 01:26:52.479 --> 01:26:55.000 week's episodes will feature his wife leaving him and a 1746 01:26:55.039 --> 01:26:57.039 new love interest coming into his life. 1747 01:26:57.199 --> 01:26:57.840 Her name is. 1748 01:26:57.880 --> 01:27:01.439 Vivian and she is dressed in red to make sure 1749 01:27:01.479 --> 01:27:04.560 that his attention is caught, just like in the matrix, right, 1750 01:27:04.680 --> 01:27:07.800 like the lady in the red dress always got Neo's attention. 1751 01:27:09.039 --> 01:27:13.119 But that is that is arconic behavior. It's always trying 1752 01:27:13.159 --> 01:27:15.720 to get your mind off of the main goal of awakening. 1753 01:27:17.039 --> 01:27:19.199 But what I thought was interesting is that her name 1754 01:27:19.279 --> 01:27:24.560 was Vivian Esoterically speaking, Vivian is known as the Lady 1755 01:27:24.600 --> 01:27:27.640 of the Lake and also known as a water priestess. 1756 01:27:27.800 --> 01:27:31.640 That is a feminine force that entraps Merlin. Merlin actually 1757 01:27:31.720 --> 01:27:36.399 initiated her into the world of magic initially, but then 1758 01:27:36.439 --> 01:27:39.199 she turns around and uses it on him to enclose 1759 01:27:39.239 --> 01:27:42.119 Merlin into a tree, a cave, a tower, or a 1760 01:27:42.159 --> 01:27:44.640 crystal prison, depending on the Lord that you read. So 1761 01:27:44.680 --> 01:27:47.479 she's trying to seal him outside of time and trying 1762 01:27:47.479 --> 01:27:52.239 to preserve him without killing him. Vivian burned binds Merlin 1763 01:27:52.520 --> 01:27:56.600 because magic becomes then becomes hidden in nature, myth and 1764 01:27:56.640 --> 01:28:01.600 intuition and dreams, and the teacher disappears so that the 1765 01:28:01.640 --> 01:28:05.520 truth seekers or spiritual seekers must find it within themselves. 1766 01:28:05.600 --> 01:28:07.640 You can no longer go up to a magician for magic. 1767 01:28:07.840 --> 01:28:09.720 You have to find the magic from within. That's basically 1768 01:28:09.720 --> 01:28:11.000 what the allegory of that is. 1769 01:28:11.479 --> 01:28:16.920 But it's funny because Vivianne is known for entrapping Merlin, 1770 01:28:17.359 --> 01:28:19.760 and that is the character that they bring in to 1771 01:28:19.840 --> 01:28:23.359 try and entrap Truman as the new love interest. So 1772 01:28:23.520 --> 01:28:25.399 symbolically it works perfectly, right. 1773 01:28:25.840 --> 01:28:29.800 Yeah, I'm surprised it wasn't like Marlin's wife or something 1774 01:28:29.840 --> 01:28:31.760 that was going to like start an affair or something, 1775 01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:34.960 knowing that Marlon would be the Merlin connection there. I'm 1776 01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:36.840 just saying there was more they could have done with that. 1777 01:28:37.039 --> 01:28:40.960 But yeah, no, it's still a great movie for sure. Yeah, 1778 01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:43.640 through and through. So all right, now we're fixing to 1779 01:28:43.640 --> 01:28:45.520 wrap this up here in a minute. But so then 1780 01:28:45.560 --> 01:28:48.800 we cut to Truman's escape. He fools the director and 1781 01:28:48.840 --> 01:28:51.760 the show crew by escaping through the ceiling in his closet. 1782 01:28:52.079 --> 01:28:55.279 This is symbolic of breaking through the first layer of 1783 01:28:55.399 --> 01:28:59.199 the firmament, the first layer of the waters, beyond the waters, 1784 01:28:59.399 --> 01:29:02.000 the firmament. It comes from the Hebrew word Jacob, you 1785 01:29:02.039 --> 01:29:06.720 know this one, the reikia, which is an expansive structural 1786 01:29:06.800 --> 01:29:09.560 boundary depending on your verbiage here. 1787 01:29:09.680 --> 01:29:13.800 But it's it's essentially just an expanse, right. So he's 1788 01:29:13.880 --> 01:29:17.239 gone beyond his initial understanding of reality and he's breaking 1789 01:29:17.439 --> 01:29:22.560 through the way his previous ways of thinking. So essentially gnostically, 1790 01:29:22.680 --> 01:29:26.840 the firmament represents kind of these glass ceiling barriers that 1791 01:29:26.920 --> 01:29:30.720 you build in your own mind. And so as far 1792 01:29:30.760 --> 01:29:33.439 as the movie goes, whenever he broke through the ceiling 1793 01:29:33.880 --> 01:29:36.119 and he went to go to the sea, he broke 1794 01:29:36.239 --> 01:29:38.439 through that barrier that he built in his mind, the 1795 01:29:38.439 --> 01:29:42.439 barrier that was I'm scared of water, right, Because once 1796 01:29:42.479 --> 01:29:44.399 he breaks through that ceiling, he's no longer scared of 1797 01:29:44.399 --> 01:29:45.680 the water. He gets on the boat and he's trying 1798 01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:48.319 to sail, right. So the idea of that is that 1799 01:29:48.359 --> 01:29:54.079 he's breaking through his own firmament gnostically, and so yeah, 1800 01:29:54.119 --> 01:29:55.279 he breaks. 1801 01:29:55.000 --> 01:29:56.359 Through all of that. 1802 01:29:56.560 --> 01:29:59.800 He goes beyond his initial understanding of reality, and he's 1803 01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:03.199 breaking through his other ways of thinking. Very similar to 1804 01:30:03.239 --> 01:30:06.479 the word repent, which comes from the Greek word metanoia, 1805 01:30:06.760 --> 01:30:10.479 which means to change your perspective or to change your mind. 1806 01:30:10.880 --> 01:30:12.199 A lot of it has to do with the mind. 1807 01:30:12.760 --> 01:30:14.079 That's all I'm gonna say about that. 1808 01:30:14.279 --> 01:30:15.600 Fair well. 1809 01:30:15.640 --> 01:30:18.680 Eventually they end up finding Truman sailing in the sea, 1810 01:30:18.840 --> 01:30:21.600 the same seed that he was terrified of because of 1811 01:30:21.640 --> 01:30:24.800 his dad dying at sea. Right, but Truman is broken 1812 01:30:24.840 --> 01:30:29.039 through that first glass ceiling. The things that used to 1813 01:30:29.079 --> 01:30:31.800 scare him no longer affect him, So the Demiurge has 1814 01:30:31.800 --> 01:30:33.640 to ramp it up a little bit by making the 1815 01:30:33.720 --> 01:30:38.359 weather stronger. If Truman gets out of this false creation, 1816 01:30:38.720 --> 01:30:41.000 he will see the Demiurge for what he is, and 1817 01:30:41.039 --> 01:30:43.640 the Demiurge will have no power over him, obviously not 1818 01:30:43.680 --> 01:30:45.319 going to have any power over him if he gets 1819 01:30:45.319 --> 01:30:49.600 outside the firmament. Right, So, the weather gets worse and worse, 1820 01:30:49.640 --> 01:30:52.239 the waves high, the lightning is striking his boat and 1821 01:30:52.279 --> 01:30:54.720 forces him out of the boat and into the water. 1822 01:30:55.239 --> 01:30:58.720 Already he's like, I mean, he's scared. You can tell 1823 01:30:58.760 --> 01:31:01.239 that he's scared, but he's pushing forward right now. 1824 01:31:02.640 --> 01:31:04.079 So the boat the boat gets. 1825 01:31:03.880 --> 01:31:08.000 Overturned and uh and Truman fights through the rage of 1826 01:31:08.039 --> 01:31:10.319 waters to get back onto the boat and he's not 1827 01:31:10.439 --> 01:31:13.600 giving up. Sheer will is steering him right now, right 1828 01:31:14.560 --> 01:31:17.399 Truman screams out to the Demiurge and says, is that 1829 01:31:17.520 --> 01:31:22.119 the best you can do? And you know he just 1830 01:31:22.119 --> 01:31:25.439 decided to tempt the fucking Demiurge, which ultimately the Demiurge 1831 01:31:25.479 --> 01:31:28.039 decide to ramp it up even more. After that, the 1832 01:31:28.039 --> 01:31:31.079 Demiurge increases the wind, the waves get stronger until a 1833 01:31:31.119 --> 01:31:35.000 fucking tidal wave comes and knocks him out, capsizing the boat. 1834 01:31:35.039 --> 01:31:37.840 But then, once the Demiurge sees that Truman is basically 1835 01:31:37.880 --> 01:31:40.880 like drowning or knocked out, he turns off the bad weather. 1836 01:31:41.159 --> 01:31:45.039 Truman regains his consciousness, raises his sail, and keeps trucking 1837 01:31:45.079 --> 01:31:47.520 forward till the tip of his boat pierces the veil 1838 01:31:47.520 --> 01:31:50.760 and he's finally vindicated, proof that his reality is not 1839 01:31:50.880 --> 01:31:54.079 what he thought. He's not crazy after all. Overcome with 1840 01:31:54.159 --> 01:31:56.399 every emotion, he looks down the wall and sees a 1841 01:31:56.439 --> 01:31:59.640 set of stairs. He's completed his journey of initiation and 1842 01:31:59.680 --> 01:32:02.399 he begins to climb. Just before he opens the door, 1843 01:32:02.399 --> 01:32:05.760 the Demiurge comes over the loudspeaker from above and Truman says, 1844 01:32:05.840 --> 01:32:09.439 who are you. Christoph replies that I am the creator, 1845 01:32:09.760 --> 01:32:13.119 literally introducing himself as the fucking creator, right. I mean, 1846 01:32:13.119 --> 01:32:14.840 he's the creator of the show. But as far as 1847 01:32:14.880 --> 01:32:20.359 Truman goes, the creator of creators right. So he goes, 1848 01:32:20.399 --> 01:32:22.399 I am the creator. Truman says, then who am I? 1849 01:32:22.640 --> 01:32:27.000 Christoph replies that you're the star. Truman says, was nothing real, 1850 01:32:27.000 --> 01:32:29.840 and Christoph says, you are real. He goes, listen to me, 1851 01:32:29.920 --> 01:32:32.119 there's no more truth out there than there is in 1852 01:32:32.199 --> 01:32:35.199 this world that I created for you. There's the same lies, 1853 01:32:35.279 --> 01:32:37.760 the same deceit. But in my world you have nothing 1854 01:32:37.800 --> 01:32:41.119 to fear. Nobody knows you better than I do. You're afraid, 1855 01:32:41.159 --> 01:32:44.159 and that's why you can't leave. It's okay, Truman, I understand. 1856 01:32:44.319 --> 01:32:46.920 I've been watching you your whole life. And he goes 1857 01:32:46.960 --> 01:32:50.159 on to remind him of all of his his memories 1858 01:32:50.199 --> 01:32:51.840 in his life from when he's a little kid, and 1859 01:32:52.520 --> 01:32:55.119 all the things that like maybe a dad would know 1860 01:32:55.319 --> 01:32:58.760 kind of thing, right, But what it's symbolic of is 1861 01:32:58.800 --> 01:33:02.760 that it's kind of like a whenever people have a 1862 01:33:02.760 --> 01:33:05.960 near death experience or they go into a car crash 1863 01:33:06.039 --> 01:33:08.960 or something like that, their life flashes before their eyes 1864 01:33:09.199 --> 01:33:11.720 and this is almost like that, and so I thought 1865 01:33:11.760 --> 01:33:15.960 that was kind of interesting. So it's very symbolic of 1866 01:33:15.960 --> 01:33:18.159 people seeing their life flash before their eyes right before 1867 01:33:18.159 --> 01:33:19.159 they die or have an NDE. 1868 01:33:19.600 --> 01:33:22.600 He says, you can't leave Truman. You belong here with me. 1869 01:33:23.279 --> 01:33:25.960 Truman then responds with in case I don't see you, 1870 01:33:26.359 --> 01:33:29.600 good afternoon, good evening, and good night, and bows out, 1871 01:33:29.760 --> 01:33:32.960 walking out of the matrix for good, finally breaking through 1872 01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:36.359 the outer show of the firmament and becoming freely liberated 1873 01:33:36.439 --> 01:33:37.359 once and for all. 1874 01:33:37.680 --> 01:33:38.560 Because if there's. 1875 01:33:38.399 --> 01:33:42.159 Anything that we seek on the journey towards enlightenment, there's 1876 01:33:42.239 --> 01:33:46.039 knowledge first, but ultimately it's liberation to be free of 1877 01:33:46.079 --> 01:33:49.760 attachment and suffering. That's what enlightenment is all about. So 1878 01:33:49.840 --> 01:33:52.960 as soon as transmission is cut off, all the watchers 1879 01:33:53.039 --> 01:33:54.199 resume life. 1880 01:33:54.159 --> 01:33:57.239 Asking what else is on? Right, Like, they're just like, oh, 1881 01:33:57.279 --> 01:33:59.720 that was fun? What else is on? Yeah? 1882 01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:02.760 So that's just your that's the masses for you, right. 1883 01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:05.239 You're not gonna wake everybody up. It's an individual to 1884 01:34:05.319 --> 01:34:08.359 individual kind of basis, So you don't wake up the masses. 1885 01:34:08.439 --> 01:34:12.039 Each individual must go through the awakening process themselves. 1886 01:34:12.960 --> 01:34:14.840 I always hated the ending of that movie. 1887 01:34:15.520 --> 01:34:17.880 Mm hm, Like I granted him going through the door 1888 01:34:17.920 --> 01:34:21.119 and saying fuck you to the dude, yes beautiful all 1889 01:34:21.159 --> 01:34:23.039 the way through, they. 1890 01:34:22.960 --> 01:34:24.720 Show nothing about what happens next. 1891 01:34:24.720 --> 01:34:27.479 You realize security just bum rushed him and probably shot 1892 01:34:27.560 --> 01:34:29.039 him as soon as he got through that door. 1893 01:34:29.640 --> 01:34:30.880 Like, but they don't tell us that. 1894 01:34:31.359 --> 01:34:33.920 And you see Sylvia running down the stairs as if 1895 01:34:33.920 --> 01:34:35.880 she's gonna run to the studio and find him in 1896 01:34:35.880 --> 01:34:37.760 the parking lot and they're gonna live happily ever after. 1897 01:34:37.840 --> 01:34:39.000 We don't fucking know that. 1898 01:34:39.880 --> 01:34:42.199 I wish he would have given you thirty seconds of 1899 01:34:42.279 --> 01:34:46.640 him giving like an interview on the view or something 1900 01:34:46.760 --> 01:34:50.039 close to where he explains how his life has progressed 1901 01:34:50.039 --> 01:34:51.840 since he left or something, and that would have been 1902 01:34:51.840 --> 01:34:54.880 the best. But instead, no, it's open to the person, 1903 01:34:54.920 --> 01:34:56.920 and it's like, yeah, Truman's dead now. 1904 01:34:57.720 --> 01:34:59.600 No, let me tell you so. 1905 01:34:59.760 --> 01:35:03.119 F I'm a gnostic understanding, that is exactly how you 1906 01:35:03.279 --> 01:35:07.319 would end it, because he has now escaped the matrix. 1907 01:35:07.520 --> 01:35:10.560 He is gone, he's liberated. You don't even you don't 1908 01:35:10.640 --> 01:35:11.920 need to see him after that. 1909 01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:15.960 He's escaped being watched, right, And so that's the idea 1910 01:35:16.159 --> 01:35:18.960 of awakening, especially as the as far as the Gnostics 1911 01:35:18.960 --> 01:35:20.600 are concerned. He's liberated. 1912 01:35:20.600 --> 01:35:24.439 He's free from attachment, he's free from literally everything else. 1913 01:35:24.640 --> 01:35:28.199 And so actually I wanted to mention this because obviously, 1914 01:35:28.359 --> 01:35:32.239 you know that my wife is Brazilian and she didn't 1915 01:35:32.279 --> 01:35:34.319 grow up watching all the same shit that we watched 1916 01:35:34.319 --> 01:35:36.760 whenever we were younger, and so I watched it with her, 1917 01:35:36.840 --> 01:35:39.039 and the first time I watched it with her, she 1918 01:35:39.199 --> 01:35:41.520 loved the entire movie until the end, just like both 1919 01:35:41.560 --> 01:35:43.479 the girl said, and she's like. 1920 01:35:43.520 --> 01:35:46.000 That's it. He doesn't go find Sylvia. And I just 1921 01:35:46.039 --> 01:35:49.479 sat there and I remember thinking, he didn't find Sylvia. 1922 01:35:50.039 --> 01:35:53.560 He found Sophia. That was the purpose. Well, we don't 1923 01:35:53.600 --> 01:35:56.199 know that. We don't know if that's a fact, it's 1924 01:35:56.279 --> 01:36:02.239 us understood, it's it's symbolic, you you know, symbolism. 1925 01:36:02.439 --> 01:36:06.520 Yeah, I'm with wisdom. He found his enlightenment, he escaped 1926 01:36:06.560 --> 01:36:07.159 the matrix. 1927 01:36:08.359 --> 01:36:09.279 That movie, I know. 1928 01:36:09.520 --> 01:36:12.720 I just I've always assumed, even as a younger man, 1929 01:36:12.920 --> 01:36:15.600 watching this movie, it's like, yo, he got fucked up 1930 01:36:15.600 --> 01:36:18.199 in the parking lot, like on some very real levels, 1931 01:36:18.239 --> 01:36:21.920 like there's no way that the the dude in charge, 1932 01:36:21.960 --> 01:36:24.000 which to be honest, I forgot his name was Christoph. 1933 01:36:24.039 --> 01:36:26.399 But there's no way that he just told the security 1934 01:36:26.479 --> 01:36:28.399 to stand down and let him go out there into 1935 01:36:28.439 --> 01:36:31.359 the free world, breeding the free air and just. 1936 01:36:31.319 --> 01:36:33.880 I mean they but it was live though, that's the thing. 1937 01:36:34.039 --> 01:36:36.880 It was being live broadcast in twenty four to seven. 1938 01:36:37.079 --> 01:36:40.359 So there's nothing. He's not going to kill him because 1939 01:36:40.600 --> 01:36:44.960 like it's it's already completely unethical what they did. So 1940 01:36:45.600 --> 01:36:49.079 if there was a movement to help him, then there's 1941 01:36:49.119 --> 01:36:51.239 no reason why he would be killed. 1942 01:36:51.960 --> 01:36:55.319 Yeah, he left, like the star left. The show is over. 1943 01:36:55.359 --> 01:36:58.279 The money stops now, and it's like, well, I guess 1944 01:36:58.279 --> 01:36:59.680 we lost our prize, pig. 1945 01:36:59.840 --> 01:37:04.840 I don't think they killed him. I think realistically he 1946 01:37:04.960 --> 01:37:08.720 was able to, at least, I don't know, try to 1947 01:37:08.760 --> 01:37:09.840 have a normal life. 1948 01:37:09.880 --> 01:37:11.880 But I mean, what but how quite hard? 1949 01:37:11.880 --> 01:37:13.640 It would be quite hard to have a normal life 1950 01:37:13.680 --> 01:37:17.039 when everything that you've ever known was a complete lie 1951 01:37:17.319 --> 01:37:19.760 and everyone in the entire world has watched you for 1952 01:37:19.760 --> 01:37:21.279 the last thirty years of your life. 1953 01:37:21.479 --> 01:37:22.119 That's what I'm saying. 1954 01:37:22.880 --> 01:37:25.720 It's the idea of being born again. That's the whole 1955 01:37:25.920 --> 01:37:29.880 entire purpose. It's being born again to a new understanding 1956 01:37:30.279 --> 01:37:33.439 that now he's shedding his old way of the old 1957 01:37:33.439 --> 01:37:38.279 world of his understanding, right, because his old reality was scripted, 1958 01:37:38.680 --> 01:37:41.199 and the Gnostic way of looking at it is is 1959 01:37:41.239 --> 01:37:44.720 that he shed that old skin he's had, you know, 1960 01:37:45.119 --> 01:37:48.960 his essentially his initiation, and now he's ready for this 1961 01:37:49.000 --> 01:37:50.399 liberation to go and be free. 1962 01:37:50.479 --> 01:37:53.720 And it's up to the individual to put it together. 1963 01:37:53.880 --> 01:37:56.760 And you know what would he do? Well, I mean, 1964 01:37:56.880 --> 01:37:59.840 nobody knows, but nobody's supposed to know, because the whole, 1965 01:38:00.600 --> 01:38:02.920 the whole. If he would have just escaped. 1966 01:38:02.560 --> 01:38:05.600 And gotten with Sylvia, then you'd be like, oh, well, 1967 01:38:05.640 --> 01:38:09.399 I guess it's not a Gnostic story because the awakened 1968 01:38:09.439 --> 01:38:12.880 person does not get with Sophia. You don't marry Sophia. 1969 01:38:13.159 --> 01:38:16.399 Sophia is the divine knowledge that's in you. She stood 1970 01:38:16.479 --> 01:38:19.600 for something, not his future wife or anything like that. 1971 01:38:19.760 --> 01:38:22.079 So that's basically the entire point, which, by the way, 1972 01:38:22.359 --> 01:38:24.000 I also wanted to mention, I can't believe I just 1973 01:38:24.039 --> 01:38:24.720 glazed over. 1974 01:38:24.600 --> 01:38:26.079 This, Christoph. 1975 01:38:26.520 --> 01:38:30.359 Okay, you know that there's something there Christoph, and I 1976 01:38:30.399 --> 01:38:34.079 just pulled this up here. It says esoteric Esoterically, Christoph 1977 01:38:34.279 --> 01:38:38.359 is often interpreted as a play on Christ off or 1978 01:38:38.439 --> 01:38:42.119 as a corrupted anti Christ figure. He functions as a 1979 01:38:42.159 --> 01:38:47.720 gnostic demiurge, a lower often ignorant or malevolent creator God 1980 01:38:47.720 --> 01:38:52.399 who creates, who creates and constructs a false material and comfortable, 1981 01:38:52.760 --> 01:38:56.800 comfortable world to keep human consciousness or Truman trapped in 1982 01:38:56.880 --> 01:39:00.880 ignorance and illusion away from the true higher realc. So 1983 01:39:01.119 --> 01:39:04.359 literally it is all gnostic as fuck. 1984 01:39:04.640 --> 01:39:07.960 So for anybody out there who's a frozen fan Christoph, 1985 01:39:08.199 --> 01:39:12.560 he's a fucking Antichrist. Clearly everybody thought Oloff was the 1986 01:39:12.600 --> 01:39:15.640 evil one. No, no, no, it's the good guy Christoph 1987 01:39:15.640 --> 01:39:17.800 over here. He's trying to lure you in with his 1988 01:39:17.880 --> 01:39:20.720 blonde hair and is singing with the with the fucking 1989 01:39:20.760 --> 01:39:21.520 reindeer and shit. 1990 01:39:21.640 --> 01:39:24.319 No, he's actually the fucking Antichrist. That's all I'm here. 1991 01:39:25.520 --> 01:39:27.520 Basically, My point is is that you could see that 1992 01:39:27.640 --> 01:39:32.159 he he became liberated, yeah, right, or you could be like, 1993 01:39:33.640 --> 01:39:35.880 why didn't he end up with Sylvia? 1994 01:39:36.079 --> 01:39:38.840 Doesn't make any sense. They they left it open ended. 1995 01:39:38.960 --> 01:39:41.399 It's like, you know, that's kind of the point. It's 1996 01:39:41.399 --> 01:39:42.520 supposed to be open ended. 1997 01:39:43.239 --> 01:39:46.079 I will say that it does tie in some of 1998 01:39:46.079 --> 01:39:49.479 the gnostic stuff, ties in really well with the psychology 1999 01:39:49.520 --> 01:39:53.680 perspective of it, about like the the like the domes 2000 01:39:53.720 --> 01:39:57.079 and stuff. It's pretty much like a construct of your 2001 01:39:57.479 --> 01:40:01.880 realities with fear and limiting beliefs and social expectations. What 2002 01:40:01.960 --> 01:40:04.239 I did find really interesting though, and I looked up 2003 01:40:04.279 --> 01:40:06.279 just kind of like some random stuff about. 2004 01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:09.119 It that the. 2005 01:40:08.399 --> 01:40:12.319 Movie itself was talking about Orwell's nineteen eighty four, like 2006 01:40:12.359 --> 01:40:14.920 it referenced that actually quite a few times on like 2007 01:40:14.960 --> 01:40:19.000 a non gnostic perspective about the passive consumption fueled by 2008 01:40:19.039 --> 01:40:25.199 advertising integrated into shows reflects the societal tendency towards voyeurism 2009 01:40:25.399 --> 01:40:30.800 and disengagement, and it compares itself to the superficial entertainment 2010 01:40:30.880 --> 01:40:37.199 unable and unwilling to recognize the abnormality that they're complicent 2011 01:40:37.399 --> 01:40:40.920 in their viewership. And it also the wife was continuously 2012 01:40:41.039 --> 01:40:45.159 showing things throughout the movie too. She would like describe 2013 01:40:45.199 --> 01:40:48.119 things that she would get and purchase, and it was 2014 01:40:48.439 --> 01:40:51.600 trying to make other people buy that throughout the entire 2015 01:40:51.680 --> 01:40:54.680 show so that they gain more money on the outside world. 2016 01:40:55.199 --> 01:40:56.520 I just thought it was really weird how it. 2017 01:40:56.479 --> 01:41:01.199 Tied directly into those things on a different perspective. But 2018 01:41:01.319 --> 01:41:03.119 there's a lot of different things if you look up 2019 01:41:03.159 --> 01:41:06.279 the psychology meanings of stuff that are as really interesting 2020 01:41:06.319 --> 01:41:09.079 in how each character plays a specific role. 2021 01:41:09.119 --> 01:41:12.720 They actually want to classify the Truman. 2022 01:41:13.960 --> 01:41:18.399 The Truman disorder as an actual disorder, and it's been 2023 01:41:18.439 --> 01:41:21.600 talked about quite a few times as a level as 2024 01:41:22.079 --> 01:41:28.199 a part of narcissism actually, and they haven't classified it yet, 2025 01:41:28.239 --> 01:41:31.920 but many psychologists believe that it is a true syndrome. 2026 01:41:32.000 --> 01:41:34.600 That they believe that people are like, you know, the. 2027 01:41:34.279 --> 01:41:37.119 Star of their own show, and there's like different levels 2028 01:41:37.119 --> 01:41:39.119 to it that they're trapped in their own reality or 2029 01:41:39.119 --> 01:41:42.479 they're disassociated from their self in a different way, and 2030 01:41:42.520 --> 01:41:45.720 it's it's really interesting if you look at that perspective. 2031 01:41:45.800 --> 01:41:47.399 They've tried for quite a while. 2032 01:41:47.239 --> 01:41:50.720 To get it to be an actual syndrome or a disorder. 2033 01:41:51.239 --> 01:41:51.520 Dude. 2034 01:41:51.600 --> 01:41:53.800 It's it's literally all over the place as far as 2035 01:41:53.840 --> 01:41:56.720 like symbolism goes, dude, Because let me tell you, I 2036 01:41:56.880 --> 01:41:59.439 just found this out and blew my fucking mind. So 2037 01:42:00.399 --> 01:42:05.680 recently we had on Santos Bonacci on metamistics, which was 2038 01:42:05.840 --> 01:42:10.560 fucking awesome, Dudude's like the highlight of my podcasting podcasting career, 2039 01:42:10.720 --> 01:42:13.560 like the goat of all eso terrorism. 2040 01:42:13.159 --> 01:42:15.359 As far as i'm that's that's a guy with the 2041 01:42:15.399 --> 01:42:16.960 white turban thing. 2042 01:42:18.239 --> 01:42:20.239 It's some kind of beanie little. 2043 01:42:19.960 --> 01:42:21.760 Beanie thing that he was wearing. 2044 01:42:22.000 --> 01:42:25.159 Yeah, it was awesome. I love that guy. But he 2045 01:42:25.319 --> 01:42:27.359 was talking about dude, check this out. 2046 01:42:27.439 --> 01:42:31.760 He says that all fairy tales are all like all 2047 01:42:31.800 --> 01:42:34.359 the ancient, like the older fairy tales, even like the 2048 01:42:34.359 --> 01:42:39.359 Brothers Grim. Kind of shit is that allegedly, even the 2049 01:42:39.399 --> 01:42:43.079 Brothers Grim, they got those stories from older stories that 2050 01:42:43.119 --> 01:42:45.680 were being told around the town or whatever, and then 2051 01:42:46.039 --> 01:42:48.640 I guess they just basically claimed ownership of them or whatever. 2052 01:42:48.720 --> 01:42:50.880 What you know, how it goes with the light bulb 2053 01:42:50.880 --> 01:42:51.720 and all that other shit. 2054 01:42:52.680 --> 01:42:56.560 But as far as the snow white and the seven doors, dude, 2055 01:42:56.640 --> 01:43:00.760 I didn't know this esoterically, what that means is snow 2056 01:43:00.800 --> 01:43:05.000 white is like, look at it, like white light shining 2057 01:43:05.039 --> 01:43:08.479 through a prism gives you the seven lights or the 2058 01:43:08.560 --> 01:43:12.239 seven dwarves, right, and it's just kind of crazy like that. 2059 01:43:12.279 --> 01:43:15.960 And the seven dwarves represents the seven energy centers within you, 2060 01:43:16.119 --> 01:43:19.479 also known as chakras. But essentially that your light shining 2061 01:43:19.520 --> 01:43:22.680 from within is giving light to all of your energy 2062 01:43:22.720 --> 01:43:25.359 centers in your entire body, and each one of them 2063 01:43:25.439 --> 01:43:29.439 is represented by one of these happy bashful, fucking dopey 2064 01:43:29.560 --> 01:43:30.000 and grown. 2065 01:43:30.199 --> 01:43:34.239 Which color is Doc? Doc is orange? 2066 01:43:34.680 --> 01:43:42.439 What it's like, you know, that's your energy centers, your 2067 01:43:42.520 --> 01:43:47.840 chakra kind of shit. So orange represents intellectual, elder and 2068 01:43:48.119 --> 01:43:52.279 fast moving mind, and that's what Doc represents, right, Okay. 2069 01:43:52.000 --> 01:43:52.600 It's interesting. 2070 01:43:52.800 --> 01:43:55.600 Literally all the fucking all the ancient fairy tale shows, 2071 01:43:55.680 --> 01:43:59.760 which I've always been obsessed with, are they're all. 2072 01:43:59.640 --> 01:44:02.239 Like deeper meaning than you would think. 2073 01:44:02.520 --> 01:44:04.720 So I'm actually that's the next show that we're doing 2074 01:44:04.760 --> 01:44:06.960 on Meta is We're going to be going into the 2075 01:44:07.159 --> 01:44:11.239 esoteric foundations of the stories of Snow White and the 2076 01:44:11.279 --> 01:44:14.920 Seven Dwarves and Cinderella, and We're just gonna keep on 2077 01:44:15.039 --> 01:44:18.560 going because it is so chock full of crazy, deeper 2078 01:44:18.600 --> 01:44:20.239 meaning stuff and I just love that kind of shit. 2079 01:44:20.319 --> 01:44:24.680 That was my teacher, My teacher in uh high school 2080 01:44:24.680 --> 01:44:28.119 my junior year. She actually had us look down, break 2081 01:44:28.159 --> 01:44:31.760 down the entire snow White and all the symbolism with 2082 01:44:31.880 --> 01:44:33.680 snow White and like the. 2083 01:44:33.600 --> 01:44:35.319 Colors represent each thing. 2084 01:44:35.840 --> 01:44:39.159 She was now that at thinking back though, she definitely 2085 01:44:39.199 --> 01:44:41.840 was a conspiracy theorist because she had us breakdown the 2086 01:44:41.880 --> 01:44:45.239 Da Vinci code in so many levels. We spent like 2087 01:44:45.399 --> 01:44:48.720 half the year on that book and Snow White. Those 2088 01:44:48.760 --> 01:44:51.039 were and then we did the Odyssey as well, so 2089 01:44:51.079 --> 01:44:53.680 we spent that was the entirety of the year. Were 2090 01:44:53.680 --> 01:44:57.760 those three books and all the symbolism within and the 2091 01:44:57.800 --> 01:45:00.399 colors and what the colors mean and how how they 2092 01:45:01.079 --> 01:45:04.880 represent different things, and how numbers represent things and how 2093 01:45:04.920 --> 01:45:07.159 they all tie in together, and what the deeper meaning 2094 01:45:07.279 --> 01:45:10.720 is and why a children's book would have these specific things, 2095 01:45:10.800 --> 01:45:14.119 and how we need to look beyond what's being presented 2096 01:45:14.159 --> 01:45:14.520 to us. 2097 01:45:15.239 --> 01:45:16.760 I don't know why I just thought about that, but 2098 01:45:16.800 --> 01:45:20.000 I was like, God, damn was she was on it, 2099 01:45:20.159 --> 01:45:22.840 Like she definitely knew a lot more than what she 2100 01:45:22.920 --> 01:45:23.439 was leading on. 2101 01:45:23.600 --> 01:45:26.840 And maybe that's where I started really kind of questioning things, 2102 01:45:26.880 --> 01:45:29.720 because she really was like, what is the true meaning 2103 01:45:29.760 --> 01:45:32.119 of these things? The Odyssey was a really interesting one 2104 01:45:32.159 --> 01:45:35.079 that we broke down to so many levels. 2105 01:45:36.439 --> 01:45:37.960 Shout out to her, by the way. 2106 01:45:38.760 --> 01:45:42.159 Deeper than the surface level shit, And that's I love 2107 01:45:42.199 --> 01:45:45.279 looking beyond the surface because that's where the meat is. 2108 01:45:45.520 --> 01:45:45.760 You know. 2109 01:45:46.079 --> 01:45:47.880 I'm excited to see what you do with the Cinderella 2110 01:45:47.920 --> 01:45:50.960 story because the European version and the Chinese version, although 2111 01:45:51.000 --> 01:45:56.119 there is some striking similarities, there's also some very important 2112 01:45:56.159 --> 01:45:59.960 cultural differences, right, Like and one is the glass slipper 2113 01:46:00.119 --> 01:46:02.279 in China. It was the Golden Slipper and there was 2114 01:46:02.359 --> 01:46:04.840 fishbones involved, and it was like a ghost of the 2115 01:46:04.880 --> 01:46:07.119 fish that gave her the wisdom to know what to do, 2116 01:46:07.159 --> 01:46:10.319 and it's it's not a fairy godmother, it's it's but 2117 01:46:10.520 --> 01:46:15.399 the story in the moral thereof is very similar. 2118 01:46:16.000 --> 01:46:19.119 But it all symbolic like placeholders. Is that that's how 2119 01:46:19.119 --> 01:46:21.079 you're supposed to look at it. Like the apple in 2120 01:46:21.119 --> 01:46:23.960 the Garden of Eden was not actually an apple. It's 2121 01:46:24.119 --> 01:46:25.840 just like a placeholder for something else. 2122 01:46:25.920 --> 01:46:28.159 And never actually say it's an apple. They just say 2123 01:46:28.159 --> 01:46:30.960 it's the fruit of the tree. Humans told you that. 2124 01:46:30.960 --> 01:46:33.239 It was apples, and so you just assume that it's such. 2125 01:46:33.439 --> 01:46:36.640 But yeah, but literally, you didn't eat a fruit, and 2126 01:46:36.680 --> 01:46:39.640 all of a sudden, she's you know, it wasn't a 2127 01:46:39.720 --> 01:46:41.920 literal fruit. Fruit stands for something else. 2128 01:46:42.479 --> 01:46:46.079 I respectfully disagree, Actually think she ate a literal fruit? 2129 01:46:46.199 --> 01:46:46.560 Uh huh? 2130 01:46:47.720 --> 01:46:51.079 Really yeah, what makes you think that you would be 2131 01:46:51.079 --> 01:46:51.680 condemned for that? 2132 01:46:52.199 --> 01:46:54.960 Because it was the one rule, It was like the 2133 01:46:55.039 --> 01:46:55.760 one thing. 2134 01:46:55.920 --> 01:46:58.760 Do everything you want in this garden, there's a tree 2135 01:46:59.079 --> 01:47:01.600 of all of life and death, and all these other 2136 01:47:01.640 --> 01:47:04.039 trees and all these other plants do all you want 2137 01:47:04.159 --> 01:47:05.920 up in this garden, but there's this one tree I 2138 01:47:05.960 --> 01:47:08.880 need you to just not touch. And of course they 2139 01:47:08.920 --> 01:47:11.039 had to go eat the fruit of that. Now again, 2140 01:47:11.319 --> 01:47:13.479 it's assumed that it was an apple, and that's why, 2141 01:47:13.600 --> 01:47:18.520 like Apple computers and phones and all these things have 2142 01:47:18.560 --> 01:47:20.000 an apple with a bite taken out of it. You 2143 01:47:20.000 --> 01:47:24.039 could look at the original depiction of the Apple's logo 2144 01:47:24.399 --> 01:47:26.600 and it is an apple on the tree in the garden, 2145 01:47:26.640 --> 01:47:29.560 and that's what the one bite is up actually representative of. 2146 01:47:30.199 --> 01:47:32.600 But yeah, no, I believe that story. 2147 01:47:32.399 --> 01:47:36.399 Is pretty true because on the computer, you're gonna find 2148 01:47:36.439 --> 01:47:39.960 knowledge of good and evil, right, it's everything everything Apple 2149 01:47:40.039 --> 01:47:42.359 products that come out there have the same image. 2150 01:47:42.359 --> 01:47:45.000 But I mean, we could tie that into so many 2151 01:47:45.039 --> 01:47:46.119 different angles. 2152 01:47:46.159 --> 01:47:47.880 To be honest with you, the thing that you take 2153 01:47:47.920 --> 01:47:50.640 that at face value, though you never thought to look deeper. 2154 01:47:50.359 --> 01:47:53.359 Into that, No, of course I have, But I I'm 2155 01:47:53.399 --> 01:47:56.000 sure there's levels of that that are unknown to us. 2156 01:47:56.039 --> 01:47:58.000 But that's one of those stories that I do believe 2157 01:47:58.039 --> 01:48:01.560 are pretty true to form, especially whenever they're like, oh, 2158 01:48:01.600 --> 01:48:03.680 where was the garden of being located. Well, was at 2159 01:48:03.720 --> 01:48:06.239 the corner of where the Tigers and the Euphrates meet 2160 01:48:06.239 --> 01:48:08.720 and two other ancient rivers. And everybody's like, well, there's 2161 01:48:08.720 --> 01:48:10.479 no two ancient rivers, so that must not be the 2162 01:48:10.520 --> 01:48:13.880 right spot cut to. They've done recent studies to show no, 2163 01:48:14.000 --> 01:48:17.199 there are two ancient rivers that absolutely tied in the 2164 01:48:17.239 --> 01:48:19.479 Tigers to the Euphrates, and these two other rivers tied 2165 01:48:19.520 --> 01:48:22.279 into one point and that is absolutely where the Garden 2166 01:48:22.319 --> 01:48:24.039 of Eden resided at one point in time. 2167 01:48:24.760 --> 01:48:26.800 Oh, you think even the Garden of Eden was a 2168 01:48:26.840 --> 01:48:31.359 literal place here on Earth? Really? For sure? Wow? 2169 01:48:31.520 --> 01:48:35.279 Okay, they teach that no doubt anyway. All right, let's 2170 01:48:35.279 --> 01:48:37.079 get into what is your topic today, Jacob. 2171 01:48:37.439 --> 01:48:39.560 Oh, So here we go. 2172 01:48:40.439 --> 01:48:43.760 And I thought about this, like, what is my favorite 2173 01:48:43.760 --> 01:48:45.800 conspiracy realistically? 2174 01:48:45.880 --> 01:48:48.119 Right? And there's so many. There are so many that 2175 01:48:48.239 --> 01:48:48.960 stand out that. 2176 01:48:48.960 --> 01:48:51.720 I would love to just go deeper on, and even 2177 01:48:51.720 --> 01:48:54.439 ones we've hashed out before and that would love to 2178 01:48:54.479 --> 01:48:57.359 go a little deeper on. Gotta be honest, only one 2179 01:48:57.399 --> 01:49:02.399 came through as my personal favorite, and that will be Flat. 2180 01:49:02.199 --> 01:49:04.720 Earth, Believe it or not. Good cult members. 2181 01:49:05.560 --> 01:49:07.600 I was already laughing before he said. 2182 01:49:08.039 --> 01:49:08.840 Believe it or not. 2183 01:49:09.359 --> 01:49:14.359 My favorite conspiracy is the flat Earth conversation, although I 2184 01:49:14.439 --> 01:49:18.239 disagree with it heavily, although I think it is ridiculous 2185 01:49:18.399 --> 01:49:24.159 and so so, so so many ways, but in and 2186 01:49:24.199 --> 01:49:28.000 of itself, it is, by all accounts, like the mother 2187 01:49:28.119 --> 01:49:31.840 of all conspiracies, because the flat earth community ties it 2188 01:49:31.880 --> 01:49:35.359 into everything. You want to talk about Tartaria, you want 2189 01:49:35.359 --> 01:49:38.159 to talk about history being a lie, you want to 2190 01:49:38.199 --> 01:49:40.920 talk about science being a lie, the education system being 2191 01:49:40.960 --> 01:49:43.520 a lie, the political elites being a part of it. 2192 01:49:43.199 --> 01:49:46.359 The Jews and the Gypsies, it's all flat Earth. 2193 01:49:46.479 --> 01:49:49.920 It all ties in. It's like, I fucking love it. 2194 01:49:50.039 --> 01:49:52.880 I really do, like for nothing else than for the 2195 01:49:53.039 --> 01:49:56.159 entertainment value. And to be fair, I'm not just gonna 2196 01:49:56.159 --> 01:49:58.479 shit on it. I'm going to give the flat earth 2197 01:49:58.479 --> 01:50:03.720 community their flowers or their laurels, if you will. The 2198 01:50:03.760 --> 01:50:06.720 flat earth community has in fact blown the lid off 2199 01:50:06.720 --> 01:50:10.760 of so many conspiracies. And I'm not saying that in 2200 01:50:10.760 --> 01:50:13.199 a facetious tone. I'm being very genuine when I say that. 2201 01:50:13.239 --> 01:50:15.840 It's very accurate because they're looking at things from a 2202 01:50:16.000 --> 01:50:18.960 very different perspective and from a very different vantage point 2203 01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:23.439 than the rest of human fucking history. Honestly, and so 2204 01:50:23.560 --> 01:50:29.000 that gives them a different look. Therefore, it gives them 2205 01:50:29.680 --> 01:50:34.079 a fun vantage point to really go into. So as 2206 01:50:34.119 --> 01:50:35.199 I was looking into this. 2207 01:50:35.239 --> 01:50:45.159 Right the flat earth conversation, it so well, I'm glad 2208 01:50:45.159 --> 01:50:48.560 you brought that up, Raven, because there is a starting 2209 01:50:48.600 --> 01:50:50.600 point to this, there really is. 2210 01:50:51.680 --> 01:50:54.479 Let's go there the day one, well. 2211 01:50:54.640 --> 01:50:55.119 Day one. 2212 01:50:55.239 --> 01:50:58.119 The earliest sources, the caveman, if you will, would have 2213 01:50:58.199 --> 01:51:00.520 walked outside and acknowledged that the Earth is flat. 2214 01:51:00.880 --> 01:51:01.640 Okay, cool. 2215 01:51:02.640 --> 01:51:08.119 Ancient Greece, Ancient Egypt, ancient Rome, name, name your ancient 2216 01:51:08.239 --> 01:51:11.760 tribe that actually had a written language. They all knew 2217 01:51:11.760 --> 01:51:14.560 that the Earth was round. This wasn't a debatable point 2218 01:51:14.600 --> 01:51:17.279 to them, the ancient Sumerians. There's cuneiform b tablets that 2219 01:51:17.359 --> 01:51:21.000 talk about this. It's not this is not a debatable point. 2220 01:51:21.520 --> 01:51:23.399 But lies all lies. 2221 01:51:23.520 --> 01:51:25.079 Oh they're all lies, clearly, clearly. 2222 01:51:25.159 --> 01:51:27.159 But every one of them is a lie. Damn it. 2223 01:51:27.439 --> 01:51:30.359 Before and with that, y'all, for any of the flat 2224 01:51:30.439 --> 01:51:33.439 earthers out there that are fans of the cult of conspiracy, 2225 01:51:33.640 --> 01:51:36.680 please do not take this as Jacob trying to shit 2226 01:51:36.840 --> 01:51:39.680 on the flat earth community. I am truly being generous 2227 01:51:39.720 --> 01:51:42.359 when I say that I do love the flat earthers, 2228 01:51:42.399 --> 01:51:44.560 and I love their talking points, and it is fun 2229 01:51:44.720 --> 01:51:47.000 and it is entertaining, and it is looking at the 2230 01:51:47.039 --> 01:51:48.600 word with their third eye all the way open. 2231 01:51:48.760 --> 01:51:51.720 I'm one hundred percent with that, And we literally employ 2232 01:51:51.760 --> 01:51:55.399 a flat earther, So we support it. We do, we do. 2233 01:51:56.279 --> 01:52:01.520 But Josh, that being said, ancient Semi Area, ancient Egypt, 2234 01:52:01.600 --> 01:52:06.439 ancient Greece, ancient Hittites, name your tribe, they all knew 2235 01:52:06.479 --> 01:52:10.399 the Earth was round from very very basic experiments that 2236 01:52:10.479 --> 01:52:15.039 anybody could do, but there was always a group that 2237 01:52:15.199 --> 01:52:19.079 was there to combat that. And fine, cool people want 2238 01:52:19.079 --> 01:52:21.159 to question the world around them. I get it. 2239 01:52:21.199 --> 01:52:25.399 That's literally the basis of this show. So how and 2240 01:52:25.600 --> 01:52:31.680 why did flat earth become a talking point in our 2241 01:52:32.159 --> 01:52:36.159 lexicon today? Real quick, before I even dive into it, 2242 01:52:36.640 --> 01:52:41.079 Jonathan Raven, do either of you know why flat earth. 2243 01:52:40.880 --> 01:52:44.600 Became a talking point in twenty twenty six. 2244 01:52:46.279 --> 01:52:49.000 It's been around for a lot longer than that. But sure, 2245 01:52:49.239 --> 01:52:52.079 I know that whenever I first started really looking into 2246 01:52:52.119 --> 01:52:55.279 it was like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, and there was 2247 01:52:55.399 --> 01:53:00.239 already like a massive following for it. Sure, and there's 2248 01:53:00.239 --> 01:53:02.279 a lot of people that get referred to as like 2249 01:53:02.359 --> 01:53:05.039 the godfathers of it. Yea, we've had a couple of 2250 01:53:05.079 --> 01:53:09.479 them on and yeah, I couldn't tell you exactly where 2251 01:53:09.600 --> 01:53:12.520 when it got rekindled though, I'm not sure. 2252 01:53:12.399 --> 01:53:14.119 Raven, do you have any ideas? 2253 01:53:14.159 --> 01:53:17.159 And I don't mean like as far as podcasting goes, right, 2254 01:53:17.239 --> 01:53:19.960 I'm talking about like the sources we've talked about Dave 2255 01:53:20.000 --> 01:53:22.600 Weiss love him to death. He and I have that 2256 01:53:22.640 --> 01:53:24.640 love hate relationship going on. The bet is still on 2257 01:53:24.680 --> 01:53:28.119 the table, the whole nine. But the sources for what 2258 01:53:28.279 --> 01:53:30.920 makes him who he is, the things he talks about, 2259 01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:33.720 where is that originating from? Because it can't be the 2260 01:53:33.720 --> 01:53:37.079 ancient sources. Literally, you could look at ancient Egypt. They 2261 01:53:37.159 --> 01:53:40.840 knew the earth is round and that's well documented. So 2262 01:53:42.039 --> 01:53:43.319 how did it become a point? 2263 01:53:43.520 --> 01:53:44.439 Raven? Any ideas? 2264 01:53:45.720 --> 01:53:50.720 I feel like during the Middle Dark Ages is when 2265 01:53:50.760 --> 01:53:54.079 it really started picking up, and then I feel like 2266 01:53:54.159 --> 01:53:58.319 it came about again, I don't know, maybe the mid 2267 01:53:58.359 --> 01:54:02.520 two thousands when Internet really started to pop off and 2268 01:54:02.840 --> 01:54:06.520 the form the whatever they are, where everyone went and 2269 01:54:06.600 --> 01:54:10.279 chatted the forms. Okay, that's where maybe that's where it 2270 01:54:10.319 --> 01:54:11.960 picked up big time movement. 2271 01:54:12.800 --> 01:54:14.640 So you're not off base. 2272 01:54:15.479 --> 01:54:18.159 Like I said, throughout history, even though it's been understood 2273 01:54:18.199 --> 01:54:21.960 that the Earth is a round, globular type of shape, 2274 01:54:22.079 --> 01:54:25.039 there's always been your groups that are going to go 2275 01:54:25.159 --> 01:54:27.720 against that, and they're gonna throw out so many different 2276 01:54:27.720 --> 01:54:29.079 reasons as to their beliefs. 2277 01:54:29.159 --> 01:54:32.319 Fine cool. The reason why it became a. 2278 01:54:32.279 --> 01:54:34.600 Thing that we're talking about today is because during the 2279 01:54:34.640 --> 01:54:38.000 nineteen fifties, the Flat Earth Society became a thing and 2280 01:54:38.079 --> 01:54:41.840 that grew into the flat earth community that we now know. 2281 01:54:42.479 --> 01:54:45.119 Okay, but what was their sources? 2282 01:54:45.439 --> 01:54:48.680 They're gonna quote quote the pie Rees map, even though 2283 01:54:48.840 --> 01:54:51.079 Pirie Reece never went to Antarctica, he was going off 2284 01:54:51.119 --> 01:54:51.880 of other sources. 2285 01:54:52.000 --> 01:54:53.319 They're going to quote captn. 2286 01:54:53.359 --> 01:54:58.039 Cook, even though when he circumnavigated Terra Australia what we 2287 01:54:58.039 --> 01:55:01.600 would now call Antarctica, could look at his ship logs 2288 01:55:01.600 --> 01:55:03.640 and see that they didn't have the resources to go 2289 01:55:03.760 --> 01:55:06.439 around a flat plane. It was only made sense that 2290 01:55:06.479 --> 01:55:09.279 they had enough resources to go around a continent. 2291 01:55:09.479 --> 01:55:12.800 Well, fine cool, How and why did this become? 2292 01:55:13.079 --> 01:55:16.680 And the whole nine the ice wall, the stars not 2293 01:55:16.760 --> 01:55:19.119 being real, planet's not being real, all of these things, 2294 01:55:19.600 --> 01:55:23.279 the flat earth model that we have today, How did 2295 01:55:23.399 --> 01:55:27.760 that become a thing. And for that we go to 2296 01:55:27.880 --> 01:55:30.439 a name that a lot of people may not have 2297 01:55:30.520 --> 01:55:33.920 really ever heard of before. For that, we're gonna have 2298 01:55:33.960 --> 01:55:39.039 to go to a guy named Parallax. Does his name 2299 01:55:39.119 --> 01:55:45.119 ring a bell to anybody like Greek? No? No, no, oh, 2300 01:55:45.159 --> 01:55:48.000 I wish so no? Early eighteen hundreds, Actually his his 2301 01:55:48.199 --> 01:55:52.399 actual name was Samuel Burley, robuthum, Robottom wherever you want 2302 01:55:52.439 --> 01:55:55.840 to pronounce it as. But he went under the pseudonym 2303 01:55:55.960 --> 01:55:58.319 of Parallax to give himself more. 2304 01:55:58.199 --> 01:56:00.319 Of a ooh. 2305 01:55:59.760 --> 01:56:03.159 As far as his name is concerned, it's a little mystique, 2306 01:56:03.359 --> 01:56:06.880 I guess, And there are so many different opinions as 2307 01:56:06.920 --> 01:56:09.920 to why he chose that nickname, but let's get into 2308 01:56:09.960 --> 01:56:10.239 it here. 2309 01:56:10.880 --> 01:56:14.680 So Parallax, who was he? Why did he have such 2310 01:56:14.880 --> 01:56:18.640 a stick? As far as flat Earth was concerned? So 2311 01:56:19.439 --> 01:56:20.800 you got to look at the world. 2312 01:56:20.920 --> 01:56:24.199 In the early eighteen hundreds and into the mid eighteen hundreds, 2313 01:56:25.279 --> 01:56:29.319 edutainment was starting to become a thing, but it wasn't 2314 01:56:29.359 --> 01:56:31.920 to the level that it is today today. When we 2315 01:56:32.000 --> 01:56:36.079 think edutainment, you have a million YouTube channels that are 2316 01:56:36.119 --> 01:56:40.199 dedicated to making history fun, to making science fun, to 2317 01:56:40.319 --> 01:56:43.920 making math fun, and they break it down in very 2318 01:56:44.399 --> 01:56:48.560 you know, lowbrow terms that anybody can understand. They have depictions, 2319 01:56:48.600 --> 01:56:51.239 they got dry erase boards, they got graphics, they got 2320 01:56:51.279 --> 01:56:53.439 ai all these things to make it more fun and 2321 01:56:53.560 --> 01:56:55.880 entertaining for the masses who are trying to watch it. 2322 01:56:56.960 --> 01:57:00.319 In the early to mid eighteen hundreds, you had dudes 2323 01:57:00.359 --> 01:57:04.880 who made a solid amount of money traveling to give 2324 01:57:05.000 --> 01:57:09.119 lectures two different groups. And even if it was some 2325 01:57:09.319 --> 01:57:13.479 off the wall thing that nobody actually believed, Yo, you 2326 01:57:13.479 --> 01:57:16.239 would pay a penny to go hear a guy in 2327 01:57:16.319 --> 01:57:19.079 the same way for the record, that you would still 2328 01:57:19.079 --> 01:57:22.760 go pay a penny to watch Dave Chappelle, who is 2329 01:57:22.840 --> 01:57:27.239 a comedian. He makes jokes, that's his whole thing, but 2330 01:57:27.319 --> 01:57:29.520 we can all acknowledge that he talks about some real 2331 01:57:29.520 --> 01:57:31.039 shit within his comedy, right. 2332 01:57:32.760 --> 01:57:34.760 Oh yeah, one hundred percent. You know you even think 2333 01:57:34.800 --> 01:57:37.159 back to like dude in Game of Thrones, like their 2334 01:57:37.199 --> 01:57:40.720 form of entertainment was just watching like fucking these stupid 2335 01:57:40.800 --> 01:57:44.439 plays and sock puppets and shit like that. Like, yeah, 2336 01:57:44.479 --> 01:57:46.560 you'd pay a penny to go see that just to 2337 01:57:46.600 --> 01:57:49.439 burn some time and spend some time with family. 2338 01:57:49.159 --> 01:57:53.560 Laughing absolutely Shakespeare, Okay, the people went and paid a 2339 01:57:53.600 --> 01:57:56.720 penny to go watch the Story of Macbeth, where he's 2340 01:57:56.720 --> 01:57:59.640 got three witches. He's fighting the ghost of his dad 2341 01:57:59.680 --> 01:58:00.359 the whole time. 2342 01:58:00.399 --> 01:58:04.640 It's it's clearly this is not reality, but it's entertainment. 2343 01:58:05.239 --> 01:58:07.920 Now you couple that with a guy who claims to 2344 01:58:07.960 --> 01:58:12.359 be certified and circumcised and all things documented through the 2345 01:58:12.359 --> 01:58:14.840 the affiliates and the programs and the things and the stuff. 2346 01:58:14.840 --> 01:58:17.479 He he studied a school in the Far East. 2347 01:58:17.960 --> 01:58:22.600 He's certified through the Londinium College of Berlindium. And these 2348 01:58:22.640 --> 01:58:26.159 places don't fucking exist, but doesn't matter. He's got the credentials. 2349 01:58:26.159 --> 01:58:28.560 At least it sounds good. You'll go pay a penny 2350 01:58:28.600 --> 01:58:29.760 to hear him talk some shit? 2351 01:58:29.880 --> 01:58:32.359 Why not? I got nothing bear going on this afternoon, 2352 01:58:32.840 --> 01:58:34.880 like the Wizard of Oz kind of shit? Why not? 2353 01:58:35.359 --> 01:58:38.680 Why not? So you got this guy Parallax. 2354 01:58:39.680 --> 01:58:46.800 His again, actual name was Samuel both Robotum Robotum row Botham. 2355 01:58:46.880 --> 01:58:48.680 I'm sure I'm mispronouncing it, but it's fine. 2356 01:58:49.399 --> 01:58:53.279 So he was born in eighteen sixteen and he died 2357 01:58:53.840 --> 01:58:55.560 December of eighteen eighty four. 2358 01:58:56.039 --> 01:58:58.279 It's very important as to how he died because he 2359 01:58:58.439 --> 01:59:05.119 also doubled as another name was it try On, doctor Tryon, 2360 01:59:05.800 --> 01:59:08.600 And he also went by the name of doctor Burley. 2361 01:59:09.079 --> 01:59:11.880 And he made up all these names for himself to 2362 01:59:12.119 --> 01:59:16.640 sell essentially snake oil. But neither here nor there. We're 2363 01:59:16.640 --> 01:59:19.560 gonna get to that in a moment, So long story short. 2364 01:59:19.640 --> 01:59:23.159 His grandfather was ninety years old and was not in 2365 01:59:23.239 --> 01:59:27.079 the best of mental health. And he was seven, you boy, Sam, 2366 01:59:27.600 --> 01:59:30.520 and he could remember hearing his grandfather getting a debate 2367 01:59:30.600 --> 01:59:32.720 with a guy about whether the Earth was round or flat. 2368 01:59:33.479 --> 01:59:37.039 His grandfather was a bit of a dick, like no exaggeration, 2369 01:59:37.560 --> 01:59:40.359 that was an understood thing, but like whatever, he loved 2370 01:59:40.359 --> 01:59:44.319 his grandfather. He heard his grandfather give this whole thing 2371 01:59:44.479 --> 01:59:46.840 about the Earth is clearly flat, and then he died, 2372 01:59:47.279 --> 01:59:49.880 and to his seven year old brain, well, my grandfather 2373 01:59:49.920 --> 01:59:52.239 would never lie to me, So the Earth has got 2374 01:59:52.239 --> 01:59:55.279 to be flat. And he dedicated at least a portion 2375 01:59:55.359 --> 01:59:58.479 of his life to proving this. He would do this 2376 01:59:58.640 --> 02:00:03.159 through a way of of giving seminars and throwing out 2377 02:00:03.479 --> 02:00:06.479 math and big words, big fanciful words, half of them 2378 02:00:06.560 --> 02:00:08.840 he made up by the way that made no sense. 2379 02:00:09.279 --> 02:00:14.560 And when he started debating actual explorers, actual navigators, actual 2380 02:00:14.560 --> 02:00:17.239 physicists who had. Some of them had actually gone to 2381 02:00:17.279 --> 02:00:20.079 Antarctica themselves, they had sailed the southern seas. 2382 02:00:20.159 --> 02:00:21.279 They knew what was up. 2383 02:00:21.600 --> 02:00:24.439 Some of these mathematicians actually could tell like what was 2384 02:00:24.479 --> 02:00:27.319 going on by very basic experiments in named biker practice. 2385 02:00:27.319 --> 02:00:31.079 At home. He kept his demeanor very cool, very calm, 2386 02:00:31.199 --> 02:00:33.680 very collected. He would he would answer a question with 2387 02:00:33.760 --> 02:00:36.039 a question. He would throw some answers back at them 2388 02:00:36.079 --> 02:00:38.239 that made no sense whatsoever. And if that sounds like 2389 02:00:38.239 --> 02:00:40.760 anybody to anybody out there, I'm not dropping names, but 2390 02:00:40.840 --> 02:00:41.760 this all ties in. 2391 02:00:41.800 --> 02:00:45.880 It's very much the parallaxium model. And so he ran 2392 02:00:45.960 --> 02:00:50.279 with this so hard and so deep that this spawned 2393 02:00:50.359 --> 02:00:54.800 into a revival of the flat earth movement, that led 2394 02:00:54.920 --> 02:00:57.479 into the Flat Earth Society of the nineteen fifties becoming 2395 02:00:57.479 --> 02:00:59.800 a thing. But we're gonna talk about it because this 2396 02:01:00.119 --> 02:01:05.279 I wrote pamphlets that was somehow documented and seen by 2397 02:01:05.319 --> 02:01:08.079 some academic sources quote unquote. 2398 02:01:07.640 --> 02:01:09.520 As oh, this guy knows what he's talking about here. 2399 02:01:09.880 --> 02:01:13.880 So all right, getting back to it now, Samuel Burley Robotham. 2400 02:01:14.840 --> 02:01:16.960 He again, it was in London, and he was an 2401 02:01:17.039 --> 02:01:21.840 English inventor, writer, a utopian socialist. 2402 02:01:22.119 --> 02:01:25.239 I'm gonna say that part. Again, the reason. 2403 02:01:24.960 --> 02:01:27.680 Why we know about flat Earth to the level we 2404 02:01:27.760 --> 02:01:34.399 do today is because of a socialist full stop. 2405 02:01:35.239 --> 02:01:37.479 Some would argue that Jesus was too, but I digress. 2406 02:01:37.640 --> 02:01:40.720 Nobody would argue that. The people that argued that also, 2407 02:01:41.079 --> 02:01:43.079 I just heard a whole debate. These people were arguing 2408 02:01:43.079 --> 02:01:45.600 that Jesus was a vegan because he would never kill 2409 02:01:45.600 --> 02:01:48.239 an animal. And it's like, you understand, he was a 2410 02:01:48.359 --> 02:01:51.159 Jew and they did sacrifices, and Jesus told the Jews 2411 02:01:51.159 --> 02:01:54.399 to do sacrifices. He also did the whole Passover meal, 2412 02:01:54.399 --> 02:01:55.880 which involved eating lamb. 2413 02:01:56.319 --> 02:02:00.319 So like, all right, I think pescatary and you can 2414 02:02:00.359 --> 02:02:01.680 have fish, but lamb. Yeah. 2415 02:02:02.279 --> 02:02:04.359 It blows the mind these people that tried to make 2416 02:02:04.439 --> 02:02:07.319 Jesus fit into their world narrative rather than making their 2417 02:02:07.359 --> 02:02:09.000 world narrative fit to Jesus. 2418 02:02:09.079 --> 02:02:12.560 That's they're flipping the script. But we're not getting into that. 2419 02:02:12.560 --> 02:02:13.239 We're not getting into that. 2420 02:02:13.319 --> 02:02:17.560 My point is this dude was a socialist and he 2421 02:02:17.600 --> 02:02:20.199 lived on a commune that later kicked him out because 2422 02:02:20.239 --> 02:02:21.880 of his wild ass. 2423 02:02:21.439 --> 02:02:23.479 Claims, and they got so annoyed with him that they 2424 02:02:23.479 --> 02:02:24.600 were like, nahd'd. 2425 02:02:24.199 --> 02:02:26.960 Fuck you, Like we don't care anyway, He was a 2426 02:02:27.000 --> 02:02:32.199 flat earther who wrote Zadetic Astronomy, Earth not a globe, 2427 02:02:32.359 --> 02:02:36.920 under the pseudonym of Parallax. His work was originally published 2428 02:02:37.079 --> 02:02:41.000 as a sixteen page pamphlet in eighteen forty nine and 2429 02:02:41.119 --> 02:02:45.000 later expanded into a book in eighteen sixty five. Yeah, 2430 02:02:45.119 --> 02:02:48.159 sixty four, and then eighteen sixty five is when it 2431 02:02:48.199 --> 02:02:51.560 was expanded into a book. Robotom's method, which he called 2432 02:02:51.720 --> 02:02:55.960 Zadetic astrology, models the Earth as a flat disc centered 2433 02:02:56.000 --> 02:02:58.680 at the north pole and bounded along its perimeter by 2434 02:02:58.720 --> 02:03:02.479 a wall of ice within the sun, moon, planets, and stars, 2435 02:03:02.520 --> 02:03:06.760 moving only several thousand miles above the surface. His work 2436 02:03:06.800 --> 02:03:10.760 is generally credited with the modern revival of. 2437 02:03:10.439 --> 02:03:13.840 The belief in flat earth. So I'm not gonna get 2438 02:03:13.840 --> 02:03:16.960 into his early life because he is the only one 2439 02:03:16.960 --> 02:03:19.960 that wrote any kind of biography about himself. And depending 2440 02:03:20.000 --> 02:03:23.560 on which one you read, some of them claim that 2441 02:03:23.600 --> 02:03:24.319 he was able to. 2442 02:03:24.399 --> 02:03:28.159 Walk, talk, and read by one month old. Some will 2443 02:03:28.199 --> 02:03:31.439 say that he had psychic powers by two. Again, all 2444 02:03:31.479 --> 02:03:34.199 of this is written by him, and a lot of 2445 02:03:34.239 --> 02:03:36.479 them actually conflict each other when you read them next 2446 02:03:36.479 --> 02:03:39.359 to each other. So who's to say what his actual 2447 02:03:39.439 --> 02:03:42.720 early life was like, okay, this is Barnum and Bailey, right, 2448 02:03:43.279 --> 02:03:45.960 you see what I'm saying here, You see what I'm saying. 2449 02:03:46.000 --> 02:03:50.479 But fine, okay, maybe your boy embellished a little bit. 2450 02:03:50.640 --> 02:03:52.640 It was for the readers, a little bit of some 2451 02:03:52.800 --> 02:03:54.159 fanfic thrown in there. 2452 02:03:55.279 --> 02:03:55.880 Bits. 2453 02:03:56.000 --> 02:03:59.199 Fine, Fine, He probably had a pet uniform too. I 2454 02:03:59.239 --> 02:04:00.560 wrote a mythical dragon. 2455 02:04:01.119 --> 02:04:03.720 You know, I can see it. 2456 02:04:04.079 --> 02:04:07.359 He might have smoked the mythical dragon. But so. 2457 02:04:07.680 --> 02:04:11.119 He started out as an organizer of the Owenite community 2458 02:04:11.239 --> 02:04:15.239 at Manea in the Fins, which is a socialist commune, 2459 02:04:15.600 --> 02:04:19.039 where he formulated his ideas about the Earth. After measuring 2460 02:04:19.119 --> 02:04:22.960 a lack of coal curvature on the long straight drainage 2461 02:04:23.000 --> 02:04:27.079 ditches on the Bedford levels in his first Bedford level experiments, 2462 02:04:27.119 --> 02:04:30.359 which we've talked about on Flat Earth Conversations a good bit, 2463 02:04:30.920 --> 02:04:33.119 he was convinced of the flatness of the Earth and 2464 02:04:33.159 --> 02:04:38.079 began to lecture on the topic. The Bedford level experiment 2465 02:04:38.560 --> 02:04:41.439 he basically either a got down to the level of 2466 02:04:41.479 --> 02:04:44.760 the water with a telescope and was able to see 2467 02:04:44.760 --> 02:04:48.199 people skating on a frozen pond way further than he 2468 02:04:48.239 --> 02:04:50.880 was supposed to be able to see, that's one version 2469 02:04:50.920 --> 02:04:53.239 of it. Another version is he sent two boats at 2470 02:04:53.239 --> 02:04:55.920 different times, the little flags on them. He sent one 2471 02:04:56.039 --> 02:04:58.680 and then like twenty minutes later sent another one. They 2472 02:04:58.680 --> 02:05:00.680 had different color little flags on the little boats that 2473 02:05:00.720 --> 02:05:04.600 were floating in a drainage ditch, which you know, elevations 2474 02:05:04.640 --> 02:05:07.399 and things, but water's level, so it couldn't be. And 2475 02:05:07.479 --> 02:05:10.199 so he looked down and they weren't as they weren't 2476 02:05:10.239 --> 02:05:12.720 at the same distance. Like something was wrong here. The 2477 02:05:12.760 --> 02:05:16.119 whole conversation of the curvature was wrong. Never mind the 2478 02:05:16.119 --> 02:05:18.039 fact that one of these boats was caught up in 2479 02:05:18.159 --> 02:05:21.039 some foliage that was in the river. 2480 02:05:21.119 --> 02:05:23.479 But that's not the point. The point is we're being 2481 02:05:23.640 --> 02:05:25.279 eyed to, right, Okay. 2482 02:05:26.119 --> 02:05:27.800 So he took a little time to learn his trade, 2483 02:05:27.880 --> 02:05:30.399 running away from a lecture in Blackburn where he could 2484 02:05:30.439 --> 02:05:33.159 not explain why the holes of ships disappeared before their 2485 02:05:33.319 --> 02:05:37.840 meat masks when sailing out to sea. I know, I 2486 02:05:37.880 --> 02:05:39.960 know it's crazy, but whenever a ship goes out to sea, 2487 02:05:40.319 --> 02:05:43.640 the bottom of the ship disappears first. And he was 2488 02:05:43.760 --> 02:05:46.119 questioned with that, with people that were actual explorers that 2489 02:05:46.239 --> 02:05:47.319 knew how the sea works. 2490 02:05:47.600 --> 02:05:50.600 He wasn't able to answer that. So he ran away 2491 02:05:50.680 --> 02:05:52.479 and said, don't worry, I'll be able to answer that 2492 02:05:52.479 --> 02:05:54.560 in part two of my lecture. Come back tomorrow and 2493 02:05:54.600 --> 02:05:54.920 see me. 2494 02:05:55.159 --> 02:05:57.800 He left town like he full on skip town and 2495 02:05:57.920 --> 02:05:59.479 was laughed at, and a lot of people said, oh, 2496 02:05:59.479 --> 02:06:01.000 he must have fall on off the ice. 2497 02:06:00.800 --> 02:06:02.880 Wall, that's why it's not here. 2498 02:06:03.039 --> 02:06:07.840 But he continued his conversation right, however, as he persisted 2499 02:06:07.880 --> 02:06:12.560 in filling halls by charging sixpence a lecture, which I 2500 02:06:12.600 --> 02:06:16.039 mean we say the term sixpence or like sixpennies. Now 2501 02:06:16.560 --> 02:06:19.159 back then, that was a pretty decent chunk of change. Here, 2502 02:06:19.560 --> 02:06:23.239 his quick wittedness and debating skills were honed so much 2503 02:06:23.279 --> 02:06:26.680 that he could counter every argument with ingenuity, wit and 2504 02:06:26.760 --> 02:06:30.960 consummate skill. When finally pinned down to a challenge in 2505 02:06:31.079 --> 02:06:34.720 Plymouth in eighteen sixty four by allegations that he would 2506 02:06:34.720 --> 02:06:38.560 not agree to attest, see your boy, Samuel appeared on 2507 02:06:38.640 --> 02:06:41.880 Plymouth Hoe at the appointed time, which Plymouth is a 2508 02:06:41.880 --> 02:06:44.880 spot in England. And essentially what happened was there was 2509 02:06:44.920 --> 02:06:49.359 a lighthouse, the Edistone Lighthouse, and it was fourteen miles 2510 02:06:49.399 --> 02:06:54.000 out to see and that was an understood. The distance 2511 02:06:54.159 --> 02:06:57.920 was guaranteed. That is a fourteen mile distance from where 2512 02:06:57.960 --> 02:06:59.560 we're standing to this lighthouse. 2513 02:06:59.640 --> 02:07:02.960 Got it dope. So what he was. 2514 02:07:02.920 --> 02:07:05.279 Saying is that, don't worry, you'll be able to see 2515 02:07:05.279 --> 02:07:06.159 the bottom of the lighthouse. 2516 02:07:06.199 --> 02:07:07.880 It doesn't matter with the earth is flat. 2517 02:07:08.079 --> 02:07:11.319 The physicist came out and was like, no, you'll be 2518 02:07:11.399 --> 02:07:14.159 able to see just like half the light. 2519 02:07:15.039 --> 02:07:16.640 That you'll be able to see only half the. 2520 02:07:16.640 --> 02:07:19.119 Light because the way the curvature goes down at that 2521 02:07:19.239 --> 02:07:20.399 distance and all the things. 2522 02:07:21.399 --> 02:07:25.399 The day came, they looked at their telescopes. Both were wrong. 2523 02:07:26.640 --> 02:07:29.199 Both were wrong. Can you guess what they saw when 2524 02:07:29.239 --> 02:07:33.479 they looked through their telescopes fog raven. 2525 02:07:35.039 --> 02:07:38.479 They saw I don't know half of it. 2526 02:07:38.960 --> 02:07:39.920 They saw half of it. 2527 02:07:40.920 --> 02:07:44.279 The reason why is because atmospheric differential was understood at 2528 02:07:44.319 --> 02:07:47.800 the time, but the physicists miscalculated it, which that was 2529 02:07:47.840 --> 02:07:51.399 a easily disproven as soon as the experiment was over, like, oh, sorry, 2530 02:07:51.399 --> 02:07:53.159 we messed up our math. Here you go, bob, here's 2531 02:07:53.159 --> 02:07:56.399 why we saw what we saw. Damn you took it 2532 02:07:56.840 --> 02:07:59.760 to say. Oh see, y'all were wrong too. I was wrong, 2533 02:07:59.760 --> 02:08:02.079 but you were wrong too, so I'm a dip. Later 2534 02:08:02.319 --> 02:08:05.319 he later got brought to trial for fraud and was 2535 02:08:05.319 --> 02:08:07.159 supposed to pay out a certain amount because that was 2536 02:08:07.199 --> 02:08:09.720 the wager that was thrown down on. This debt didn't 2537 02:08:09.760 --> 02:08:12.760 happen at all. And then he changed his name again 2538 02:08:12.840 --> 02:08:17.840 to the doctor Tryon thing and to sell his phosphoric acid. 2539 02:08:18.159 --> 02:08:19.920 We'll get to that here in a minute too. But anyway, 2540 02:08:20.840 --> 02:08:21.279 so I. 2541 02:08:21.279 --> 02:08:22.600 Love this guy's great. 2542 02:08:23.079 --> 02:08:26.279 He's he's a character, which is what he was supposed 2543 02:08:26.279 --> 02:08:27.279 to be. He wasn't supposed to be. 2544 02:08:28.119 --> 02:08:30.399 Reminds me of somebody just weird. 2545 02:08:30.720 --> 02:08:31.640 I know, I know. 2546 02:08:32.760 --> 02:08:36.439 He wasn't supposed to be seen as a serious expert. 2547 02:08:36.760 --> 02:08:40.319 He was supposed to be edutainment. He's like, he's like 2548 02:08:40.359 --> 02:08:42.880 pro wrestlers. They are talking some mad shit. You're not 2549 02:08:42.880 --> 02:08:46.399 supposed to take it as reality. It's the show. It's 2550 02:08:46.399 --> 02:08:46.920 the show. 2551 02:08:47.439 --> 02:08:50.239 Do not bring wrestling into the Royal. 2552 02:08:50.119 --> 02:08:52.239 Rumble was fucking awesome, by the way. I couldn't tell 2553 02:08:52.279 --> 02:08:53.359 you do not. 2554 02:08:53.359 --> 02:08:56.800 Bring that into this, thank you. Okay, it's fantastic. 2555 02:08:56.920 --> 02:08:57.600 Excuse me. 2556 02:08:57.920 --> 02:09:00.199 It's a boxing match, it's about to go on, and 2557 02:09:00.199 --> 02:09:02.359 these dudes are talking mad shit on the mic before 2558 02:09:02.439 --> 02:09:04.039 the fight to hype it up. 2559 02:09:04.319 --> 02:09:06.960 It's not real. They don't actually hate each other. They 2560 02:09:07.000 --> 02:09:10.079 don't care. It's about getting the eyes on the event. 2561 02:09:10.800 --> 02:09:12.359 Jake Paul fight there you go. 2562 02:09:12.640 --> 02:09:13.960 That's what I was thinking of too. 2563 02:09:14.079 --> 02:09:16.520 Or Love and Paul with the WWE. 2564 02:09:16.319 --> 02:09:20.039 You see him get something snuck into his hand and 2565 02:09:20.039 --> 02:09:22.039 they're like all debating about it if he was taking 2566 02:09:22.119 --> 02:09:22.720 drugs or not. 2567 02:09:23.000 --> 02:09:23.359 He is. 2568 02:09:25.079 --> 02:09:27.079 Yeah, Apparently there's a video of a guy coming up 2569 02:09:27.159 --> 02:09:29.159 and like he hands him something real quick, and he 2570 02:09:29.239 --> 02:09:31.520 kind of like hangs out for a few minutes and 2571 02:09:31.520 --> 02:09:33.560 then he like goes like this and puts it in 2572 02:09:33.640 --> 02:09:36.680 his mouth, and apparently they have it on video and 2573 02:09:36.720 --> 02:09:38.199 there's like a whole thing going on with it. 2574 02:09:38.239 --> 02:09:38.439 Now. 2575 02:09:39.000 --> 02:09:43.000 I believe it adrenochrome capsules. That's that's my guess. Why not? 2576 02:09:43.079 --> 02:09:46.279 Probably why not he sent in a capsule so you 2577 02:09:46.279 --> 02:09:47.039 can put it in there? 2578 02:09:47.439 --> 02:09:50.800 You could, Yeah, absolutely could. But anyway, all right, So 2579 02:09:50.840 --> 02:09:52.079 back to our boy Sam here. 2580 02:09:52.079 --> 02:09:56.000 In nineteen sorry, eighteen fifty six, Robottom married for a 2581 02:09:56.079 --> 02:09:59.600 second time because his first marriage disintegrated. It was it 2582 02:09:59.600 --> 02:10:02.760 was a mess for a second time and had two children, 2583 02:10:02.800 --> 02:10:06.439 one of whom died in infancy. So your boy had 2584 02:10:06.520 --> 02:10:11.119 like nine kids, only three of them survived. Some speculate 2585 02:10:11.159 --> 02:10:13.359 that the reason is because he was force feeding them 2586 02:10:13.439 --> 02:10:16.920 his snake oils, his phosphork acids that he believed would 2587 02:10:17.000 --> 02:10:20.439 keep somebody alive for forever. And I don't mean that euphemistically. 2588 02:10:20.760 --> 02:10:23.920 He truly believed and wrote a pamphlet on this to 2589 02:10:23.960 --> 02:10:26.840 the tune of this, basically, the only reason why we 2590 02:10:26.960 --> 02:10:30.640 die is because our body starts to harden up like rocks, 2591 02:10:30.760 --> 02:10:35.000 and essentially when we die, certain organs are a rock form. 2592 02:10:35.159 --> 02:10:38.279 It's like petrified. Would our organs do that? Obviously? 2593 02:10:38.760 --> 02:10:41.960 You know how you could stop that? Phosphork acid sold 2594 02:10:42.000 --> 02:10:44.560 in this neat little bottle b b bu up and 2595 02:10:44.560 --> 02:10:47.600 it's by doctor. Tryon, you know, you could trust a 2596 02:10:47.600 --> 02:10:49.159 doctor and it's like, no, it's you dude. 2597 02:10:49.279 --> 02:10:52.640 It's literally it like coloidal silver. It really does, right. 2598 02:10:53.279 --> 02:10:56.680 So most of his children died before they were six, 2599 02:10:57.359 --> 02:10:59.600 reason being every time they had the sniffles, he would 2600 02:10:59.640 --> 02:11:04.000 force the mass amounts of phosphoric acid, which in small 2601 02:11:04.079 --> 02:11:07.399 doses is not bad, but even a small dose to 2602 02:11:07.439 --> 02:11:09.399 a child in the manner of which he was given 2603 02:11:09.439 --> 02:11:11.079 it to them is very detrimental. 2604 02:11:11.119 --> 02:11:12.439 But we'll get to that more in a bit. 2605 02:11:12.560 --> 02:11:17.479 Anyway, in eighteen sixty one, when he was forty six, 2606 02:11:18.079 --> 02:11:21.600 your boy married a fifteen year old girl with whom 2607 02:11:21.640 --> 02:11:23.680 he was living at the time of the marriage, and 2608 02:11:23.720 --> 02:11:28.119 settled in London, producing fifteen known children, of whom only 2609 02:11:28.159 --> 02:11:28.920 four survived. 2610 02:11:28.920 --> 02:11:31.680 Excuse me, my math was off a moment ago. He 2611 02:11:31.760 --> 02:11:32.279 was named in. 2612 02:11:32.359 --> 02:11:36.439 Numerous cases of wrongful deaths, including a death by misadventure 2613 02:11:36.520 --> 02:11:40.279 for accidentally poisoning one of his own children. Again, it 2614 02:11:40.359 --> 02:11:42.439 was the wow, yeah, no, no, this is the flat 2615 02:11:42.479 --> 02:11:44.800 earth guy. Just so we're all clear here, But we'll get. 2616 02:11:44.640 --> 02:11:47.119 To more shadow and a killer. 2617 02:11:47.600 --> 02:11:50.920 Well, at that time, fifteen wasn't crazy for marrying age. 2618 02:11:51.119 --> 02:11:55.039 And I disagree with this. I disagree with it wholeheartedly, 2619 02:11:55.479 --> 02:11:58.640 but we're looking at the most it is by our 2620 02:11:59.000 --> 02:12:01.680 modern interpretation of the word. But back in those days, 2621 02:12:01.840 --> 02:12:05.880 a sixteen year old getting married was like not crazy 2622 02:12:05.920 --> 02:12:08.079 to these people. Basically, once you started your period, a 2623 02:12:08.119 --> 02:12:12.039 girl was of marrying age, which is fucking mind blowing. 2624 02:12:12.199 --> 02:12:15.159 But per the early eighteen hundreds, apparently that was just 2625 02:12:15.199 --> 02:12:15.720 like the way. 2626 02:12:16.760 --> 02:12:19.039 I don't know, I'm gonna still stand by my statement, 2627 02:12:19.079 --> 02:12:21.039 Oh I know, but a forty five year old man 2628 02:12:21.119 --> 02:12:24.800 with a fifteen year old girl is absolutely disgusting anyway 2629 02:12:24.800 --> 02:12:27.880 you chop it up. I think any way you want 2630 02:12:27.880 --> 02:12:30.000 to look at it even culturally, like you still know 2631 02:12:30.079 --> 02:12:32.560 it's probably wrong, and you're still gonna do it anyways. 2632 02:12:32.840 --> 02:12:35.920 Yeah, no, I agree. I'm just mentioning that that was 2633 02:12:35.960 --> 02:12:39.720 also a social norm of the day. But that's beside 2634 02:12:39.760 --> 02:12:41.039 the point his first wife. 2635 02:12:40.840 --> 02:12:41.119 I think. 2636 02:12:41.680 --> 02:12:44.000 But he killed a whole bunch of his children. 2637 02:12:43.720 --> 02:12:45.520 Most of them, most of them. 2638 02:12:45.600 --> 02:12:47.439 He even goes on to say that he was responsible 2639 02:12:47.439 --> 02:12:51.479 for other deaths using his quack cures of phosphorus. He 2640 02:12:51.600 --> 02:12:53.840 was also alleged to be using the name of doctor 2641 02:12:53.880 --> 02:12:57.680 Samuel Burley, living in a beautiful twelve roomed house, selling 2642 02:12:57.680 --> 02:13:02.119 the secrets of prolonging human life and curing every disease imaginable. 2643 02:13:02.840 --> 02:13:07.520 Augustine de Morgan refers to him as S. Goulden his patent. 2644 02:13:08.000 --> 02:13:11.800 He patented a number of inventions, including a quote life 2645 02:13:11.840 --> 02:13:16.720 preserving cylindrical railway carriage. Basically, if you have this carriage 2646 02:13:16.800 --> 02:13:19.079 carry from point A to point B, you'll live forever. 2647 02:13:19.399 --> 02:13:23.119 What's so special about it? It's the shape that's it. 2648 02:13:23.560 --> 02:13:27.119 For the record, Yep, this is the guy. This is 2649 02:13:27.159 --> 02:13:29.359 the reason why flat earth is a conversation that we 2650 02:13:29.439 --> 02:13:32.479 talk about today. Just so we're clear, but we're getting 2651 02:13:32.479 --> 02:13:32.920 deeper here. 2652 02:13:34.119 --> 02:13:37.520 It's not just people making observations. It could be that too. 2653 02:13:38.119 --> 02:13:42.279 The observations can quickly be understood scientifically to like know 2654 02:13:42.399 --> 02:13:43.640 what is actually happening. 2655 02:13:43.960 --> 02:13:49.800 But like, nobody has ever seen the curve. You can 2656 02:13:49.840 --> 02:13:51.720 see it by looking out of an airplane. But then 2657 02:13:51.760 --> 02:13:54.159 they're gonna say, oh, that's because a fish bowl lenses. 2658 02:13:54.399 --> 02:13:57.520 There's no fish bowl glass on a plane. Dog, Yeah, 2659 02:13:57.560 --> 02:13:57.920 there is. 2660 02:13:58.000 --> 02:13:58.640 It's curved. 2661 02:13:58.880 --> 02:14:01.720 It definitely is curve. A cur with the rest of 2662 02:14:01.720 --> 02:14:04.359 the plane. Yeah, but that's not a curve. This way 2663 02:14:04.439 --> 02:14:06.520 is not going to make the Earth look a certain way. 2664 02:14:06.520 --> 02:14:08.720 This way, that's not how that goes. Vertical and horizontal 2665 02:14:08.720 --> 02:14:10.840 don't equate to the same eyesight. 2666 02:14:11.479 --> 02:14:15.199 Even your boy fucking what's his name, the black scientist 2667 02:14:15.239 --> 02:14:18.279 guy uh Neil de grass Tyson, will say that you 2668 02:14:18.319 --> 02:14:20.159 can't see it from a plane. You can't even see 2669 02:14:20.199 --> 02:14:22.239 it from like what was it. 2670 02:14:22.119 --> 02:14:24.800 The You could see it from the Bersh Khalifa. 2671 02:14:25.680 --> 02:14:27.840 He said that even the red bull jumper couldn't see it, 2672 02:14:27.880 --> 02:14:29.359 and that goes way higher than a plane. 2673 02:14:29.399 --> 02:14:31.600 That's incorrect. You could look at the cameras that he 2674 02:14:31.680 --> 02:14:33.079 had on that satellite and see it. 2675 02:14:34.520 --> 02:14:36.119 Said you couldn't. I don't know. I'm just saying what 2676 02:14:36.199 --> 02:14:36.560 he said. 2677 02:14:36.680 --> 02:14:39.359 Neil de Grass also says Pluto isn't a planet. I'm 2678 02:14:39.359 --> 02:14:41.199 not a big fan of him either, to be honest 2679 02:14:41.239 --> 02:14:41.479 with you. 2680 02:14:41.960 --> 02:14:45.319 I mean, I personally have never looked outside of a 2681 02:14:45.319 --> 02:14:48.760 plane window and thought, oh, the world is round. I've 2682 02:14:48.760 --> 02:14:51.000 been on a lot of planes. I've never seen a 2683 02:14:51.039 --> 02:14:54.880 curvature because you can see that it extends vastly. Dude, 2684 02:14:55.119 --> 02:14:56.600 I'm not saying that it's round or flat. 2685 02:14:56.640 --> 02:14:56.880 I'm not. 2686 02:14:57.039 --> 02:14:58.680 I'm not even going there, all right. I think it's 2687 02:14:58.680 --> 02:14:59.800 a fucking fake anyway. 2688 02:15:00.079 --> 02:15:03.479 But my point is is that I've never seen a 2689 02:15:03.560 --> 02:15:05.680 curvature from a plane. I don't think you can. I 2690 02:15:05.680 --> 02:15:06.840 don't think that's high up enough. 2691 02:15:06.880 --> 02:15:07.000 Bro. 2692 02:15:07.079 --> 02:15:09.640 The dude that kills me is he brought like a 2693 02:15:09.760 --> 02:15:13.760 six inch torpedo level onto a plane, put down his 2694 02:15:13.880 --> 02:15:16.279 trade table on the seat in front of him, and 2695 02:15:16.319 --> 02:15:17.880 put it down there to show that he was level. 2696 02:15:17.920 --> 02:15:21.800 And it's like, oh boy, that's that's not how this 2697 02:15:21.960 --> 02:15:23.199 works at all. 2698 02:15:23.760 --> 02:15:26.199 Like shout out to Daryl Marble, He's the one that 2699 02:15:26.279 --> 02:15:29.039 did that. That is that is silliness. 2700 02:15:29.560 --> 02:15:33.359 That is ridiculous, Like I that's like balancing a square 2701 02:15:33.479 --> 02:15:35.520 and saying, well, it's round because I balanced it. It's 2702 02:15:35.560 --> 02:15:39.159 like what like you could like when you're balancing a tire, 2703 02:15:39.279 --> 02:15:42.600 you know what I mean, getting sending somebody a square 2704 02:15:42.760 --> 02:15:44.680 and saying, well, we balanced it, so it's gotta work 2705 02:15:44.760 --> 02:15:47.920 like that. That's not how this works. You could balance 2706 02:15:48.039 --> 02:15:50.119 anything that doesn't make it round. 2707 02:15:50.159 --> 02:15:54.279 Dog, I don't fucking know. I really don't care because 2708 02:15:54.279 --> 02:15:57.119 I don't believe that. I think the material world isn't 2709 02:15:57.119 --> 02:15:57.840 illusion anyway. 2710 02:15:57.920 --> 02:15:58.760 So that's fair. 2711 02:15:58.840 --> 02:16:02.439 But as far as the conspirac is concerned, here, let's continue. 2712 02:16:02.520 --> 02:16:05.600 He says he painted or he hadn't, did a number 2713 02:16:05.640 --> 02:16:09.439 of inventions. We talked about the cylindrical railway carriage. He 2714 02:16:09.560 --> 02:16:12.119 is not known to have hailed any medical degrees, and 2715 02:16:12.159 --> 02:16:16.960 his professions are named as at different times of chemist, physician, journalist, 2716 02:16:17.079 --> 02:16:20.199 and soap boiler. Somehow he held all these titles at 2717 02:16:20.239 --> 02:16:24.760 the same time. His book Zadetic Astronomy The Earth Is 2718 02:16:24.760 --> 02:16:28.600 Not a Globe appeared in eighteen sixty four. His lectures continued, 2719 02:16:28.680 --> 02:16:33.399 and concerned citizens address letters to the Astronomer Royal seeking 2720 02:16:33.520 --> 02:16:37.479 rebuttals for his claims. A correspondent to The Leeds Times 2721 02:16:37.600 --> 02:16:40.479 observed that quote. One thing he did not or one 2722 02:16:40.479 --> 02:16:44.680 thing he did demonstrate, was that scientific dabblers, unused to 2723 02:16:44.799 --> 02:16:48.639 platform's advocacy, are unable to cope with a man a charlatan, 2724 02:16:48.680 --> 02:16:51.239 if you will, but clever and thoroughly up to in 2725 02:16:51.280 --> 02:16:55.719 his theory, thoroughly alive to the weakness of his opponents. 2726 02:16:56.000 --> 02:16:58.600 So basically he's saying like, look, these people have never 2727 02:16:58.639 --> 02:17:02.479 seen a debater go against somebody who can match him, 2728 02:17:02.600 --> 02:17:05.000 because he's going up against people when he's proposing questions 2729 02:17:05.079 --> 02:17:09.040 that they're not prepared to answer. Right, So continuing on here, 2730 02:17:09.760 --> 02:17:15.479 one of Robotham's followers, John Hampden, a Christian polmist polemicist, 2731 02:17:15.879 --> 02:17:19.639 gained notoriety by engaging in rausious public debates with leading 2732 02:17:19.680 --> 02:17:23.399 scientists of the day. A bet involving the prominent naturalist 2733 02:17:23.479 --> 02:17:27.200 Alfred Russell Wallace in the famous Bedford Level experiments led 2734 02:17:27.200 --> 02:17:31.159 to several lawsuits for fraud and libel in Hampton's imprisonment. 2735 02:17:31.959 --> 02:17:35.639 So the whole conversation about well they did those Bedford experiments, 2736 02:17:35.639 --> 02:17:37.639 and clearly it shows you here at this flag there 2737 02:17:37.719 --> 02:17:41.159 was people imprisoned for fraud based off of what they 2738 02:17:41.200 --> 02:17:44.639 talked about there. In the United States, his ideas were 2739 02:17:44.639 --> 02:17:47.760 taken up by the Christian Catholic Apostolic Church in nineteen 2740 02:17:47.840 --> 02:17:50.719 fourteen and were promoted widely when the church added a 2741 02:17:50.840 --> 02:17:53.360 radio station in nineteen twenty three. His work in the 2742 02:17:53.479 --> 02:17:57.079 United States was continued by William Carpenter. He was a 2743 02:17:57.120 --> 02:18:00.879 printer originally from Greenwich, England. Probably missed pronounce that Greenwich, 2744 02:18:00.959 --> 02:18:03.920 I don't know, a supporter of him, and published Theoretical 2745 02:18:03.959 --> 02:18:06.680 Astronomy Examined and Exposed Proving the Earth is Not a 2746 02:18:06.680 --> 02:18:09.639 Globe in eight parts from eighteen sixty four under the 2747 02:18:09.719 --> 02:18:13.399 name of Common Sense. He later immigrated to Baltimore, where 2748 02:18:13.440 --> 02:18:15.680 he published one hundred Proofs the Earth Is Not a 2749 02:18:15.680 --> 02:18:19.040 Globe in eighteen eighty five. So, just so we're all 2750 02:18:19.120 --> 02:18:22.360 clear here, whenever people talk about how or you got 2751 02:18:22.360 --> 02:18:24.000 to read books from the eighteen hundreds because that's when 2752 02:18:24.000 --> 02:18:25.719 they knew the truth, or you got to read books 2753 02:18:25.719 --> 02:18:28.120 from this, you gotta read books from this, we need 2754 02:18:28.159 --> 02:18:31.319 to still test the source on those written documents. Just 2755 02:18:31.319 --> 02:18:33.920 because they're written and just because they're a book does 2756 02:18:33.959 --> 02:18:39.079 not mean they're real or truthful whatsoever. But okay, fine, 2757 02:18:40.040 --> 02:18:42.440 So before I continue here again, I do want to 2758 02:18:42.440 --> 02:18:42.959 make a mention. 2759 02:18:43.959 --> 02:18:45.680 I appreciate the flat Earth. 2760 02:18:45.479 --> 02:18:47.879 Community for the lids they have blown off of so 2761 02:18:48.360 --> 02:18:51.479 many different conspiracies because they are looking at things from 2762 02:18:51.520 --> 02:18:55.639 a different perspective, which gives them that ability. I'm not 2763 02:18:55.680 --> 02:18:57.719 trying to shit on the flat earthers. I'm trying to 2764 02:18:57.719 --> 02:19:01.319 shit on parallax, or I should say people Samuel here anyway, 2765 02:19:02.079 --> 02:19:05.520 So he also released a pamphlet where he talked about 2766 02:19:05.559 --> 02:19:08.000 how to lift Forever. I'm gonna try to get this 2767 02:19:08.079 --> 02:19:12.920 all in one. Take here Biology an inquiry into the 2768 02:19:12.959 --> 02:19:16.040 cause of natural death, showing it is not to arise 2769 02:19:16.079 --> 02:19:21.360 from old age, but a gradual process dammit of consolidation, 2770 02:19:21.559 --> 02:19:24.639 arising from substances which may be so far controlled as 2771 02:19:24.639 --> 02:19:28.680 to preserve health and active life for an indefinable period 2772 02:19:29.159 --> 02:19:32.719 by tryon. That was the title of his pamphlet. 2773 02:19:34.520 --> 02:19:37.639 I found another one one hundred proofs that the Earth 2774 02:19:37.799 --> 02:19:39.920 is not a globe? But did he also go by 2775 02:19:39.920 --> 02:19:42.680 another name called Wm Carpenter. 2776 02:19:42.959 --> 02:19:44.120 No, No, that's why I was just talking about. 2777 02:19:44.120 --> 02:19:46.399 That was William Carpenter that basically took his work and 2778 02:19:46.479 --> 02:19:47.879 ran with it and wrote his own book. 2779 02:19:48.760 --> 02:19:51.440 Okay, yeah, I found the Internet archive of it. It's 2780 02:19:51.520 --> 02:19:57.040 forty two pages and literally the opening page says a 2781 02:19:57.159 --> 02:20:02.079 challenge to the Johns Hopkins Universe, one hundred proofs that 2782 02:20:02.120 --> 02:20:05.959 the Earth is not a globe, and again it says 2783 02:20:06.000 --> 02:20:08.360 it's upright, downright, and straightforward. 2784 02:20:09.520 --> 02:20:13.399 Most of those quote unquote proofs can be very quickly, 2785 02:20:14.000 --> 02:20:17.920 quickly dispelled. But all that is because of this dude 2786 02:20:18.079 --> 02:20:21.280 who went under the nickname of Parallax when he was 2787 02:20:21.319 --> 02:20:24.680 out there going on his speaking engagement. So again, Samuel 2788 02:20:24.799 --> 02:20:29.639 Burley Robotom aka Parallax. He was an English quote unquote 2789 02:20:29.680 --> 02:20:34.000 medical doctor and quote unquote inventor who wrote Zendetic Astronomy, 2790 02:20:34.120 --> 02:20:36.399 Earth is not a globe based on his decades long 2791 02:20:36.440 --> 02:20:40.280 scientific studies of the Earth, published a sixteen page pamphlet 2792 02:20:40.319 --> 02:20:43.159 in eighteen forty nine, which he later expanded into a 2793 02:20:43.200 --> 02:20:46.440 four hundred and thirty page book expounding his views. 2794 02:20:46.760 --> 02:20:50.040 According to him, his own personal. 2795 02:20:49.600 --> 02:20:52.559 Scientific method, not the actual scientific method, but his version 2796 02:20:52.600 --> 02:20:56.479 of the scientific method, which he called Zadetic astronomy. The 2797 02:20:56.600 --> 02:20:58.920 Earth is a flat disc centered at the north pole, 2798 02:20:58.959 --> 02:21:01.479 bounded along its southern edge by a wall of ice, 2799 02:21:01.600 --> 02:21:04.000 with the sun, moon, and planets and stars only a 2800 02:21:04.000 --> 02:21:06.440 few thousand miles above the surface of the Earth. He 2801 02:21:06.559 --> 02:21:10.120 and his followers gained notoriety by engaging in Raush's public debates. 2802 02:21:09.840 --> 02:21:12.319 Which I talked about earlier on. 2803 02:21:11.959 --> 02:21:16.360 One such clash involved a prominent naturalist, Alfred Russell Wallace, 2804 02:21:16.440 --> 02:21:19.520 and led to several lawsuits for fraud and liability. 2805 02:21:20.159 --> 02:21:23.040 So this dude was this is what he did. 2806 02:21:23.120 --> 02:21:26.159 He absolutely went in debated these people, and every now 2807 02:21:26.159 --> 02:21:28.520 and then one of them would come with a point 2808 02:21:28.559 --> 02:21:32.159 that he could not refute, and he would either a 2809 02:21:32.280 --> 02:21:35.120 skip town or b say you know what, fuck it, 2810 02:21:35.200 --> 02:21:37.559 let's do an experiment, and he would rig the deck 2811 02:21:37.799 --> 02:21:41.079 to where it looked like nobody won. Therefore he's right, 2812 02:21:41.840 --> 02:21:44.520 because that's how that works. 2813 02:21:45.200 --> 02:21:47.719 Let's play a little game real quick. Out of one 2814 02:21:47.799 --> 02:21:51.920 hundred proofs, I want you to pick any number from 2815 02:21:51.959 --> 02:21:54.680 one to one hundred, and we'll just pick one of 2816 02:21:54.719 --> 02:21:57.280 these proofs and then we'll see what your argument is 2817 02:21:57.319 --> 02:21:57.760 against it. 2818 02:21:59.079 --> 02:22:00.840 For the record, I didn't try to go against you 2819 02:22:00.879 --> 02:22:02.799 at the Truman Show, but okay, we could do this. 2820 02:22:03.920 --> 02:22:06.440 Forty five. I'm not pro flat earth either, I'm just 2821 02:22:06.559 --> 02:22:09.600 I think it's fun. Forty five Why not? All right? 2822 02:22:12.440 --> 02:22:12.639 Nine? 2823 02:22:13.319 --> 02:22:14.719 Nine? All right? Forty five. 2824 02:22:14.760 --> 02:22:19.639 They're short, they're not long forty five. The Astronomer Royal 2825 02:22:19.920 --> 02:22:24.040 of England, George b Airy, in his celebrated work on 2826 02:22:24.280 --> 02:22:30.399 astronomy The ip which Lectures, says that Jupiter is a 2827 02:22:30.440 --> 02:22:33.280 large planet that turns on its axis, and why do 2828 02:22:33.440 --> 02:22:36.600 we not turn? Of course, the common sense reply is 2829 02:22:36.920 --> 02:22:40.000 because the Earth is not a planet. When therefore an 2830 02:22:40.040 --> 02:22:44.040 Astronomer Royal puts words into our mouth wherewith we may 2831 02:22:44.280 --> 02:22:47.639 overthrow the supposed planetary nature of the Earth. We have 2832 02:22:47.840 --> 02:22:50.440 not far to go to pick up a proof that 2833 02:22:50.520 --> 02:22:51.760 Earth is not a globe. 2834 02:22:52.440 --> 02:22:55.879 So his question, his point is that while they say 2835 02:22:55.959 --> 02:22:58.719 Jupiter rotates on an axis, why doesn't the Earth? But 2836 02:22:58.879 --> 02:23:02.879 we do? Because do what? Yeah, that's kind of a 2837 02:23:02.920 --> 02:23:04.639 silly point. I don't even know why that made the book. 2838 02:23:04.799 --> 02:23:07.600 That's a lot of them are very similar in nature. 2839 02:23:07.639 --> 02:23:09.959 Bro By the way, I'm not like doing this to 2840 02:23:10.040 --> 02:23:12.159 suppose you just think it's funny, like a funny part 2841 02:23:13.079 --> 02:23:13.760 Raven you said. 2842 02:23:13.840 --> 02:23:14.479 Number nine. 2843 02:23:15.239 --> 02:23:19.559 Number nine says, as mariners take to sea with them, 2844 02:23:19.719 --> 02:23:23.799 charts constructed as though the sea were a level surface. However, 2845 02:23:24.000 --> 02:23:27.200 these charts may err as to the true form of 2846 02:23:27.239 --> 02:23:29.879 the level surface. Taken as a whole, it is clear 2847 02:23:30.200 --> 02:23:34.840 as they find the answer, they find them. This doesn't 2848 02:23:34.840 --> 02:23:38.280 make any sense, as they find them answer their purposes 2849 02:23:38.360 --> 02:23:44.280 tolerably well, and only tolerably well. For many ships are 2850 02:23:44.280 --> 02:23:47.799 wrecked owing to the error of which we speak that 2851 02:23:47.920 --> 02:23:50.399 the surface of the sea is as it is taken 2852 02:23:50.440 --> 02:23:53.319 to be, whether the captain of the ship supposes that 2853 02:23:53.399 --> 02:23:56.959 the Earth is a globe or anything else. Thus, then 2854 02:23:57.079 --> 02:24:01.159 we draw from the common system of plane sailing a 2855 02:24:01.319 --> 02:24:04.239 practical proof that Earth is not a globe. 2856 02:24:04.559 --> 02:24:07.719 That was so much bullshit words to say, like a 2857 02:24:07.760 --> 02:24:10.200 single line. You could have just wrote like a single line. 2858 02:24:10.280 --> 02:24:12.399 This is very similar to most flat earth debates to 2859 02:24:12.440 --> 02:24:14.600 this day, honestly just filling it. 2860 02:24:14.840 --> 02:24:16.799 Yeah, trying to sound smarter kind of thing. 2861 02:24:16.879 --> 02:24:19.000 Using words that make you sound educated. And it's like, 2862 02:24:19.040 --> 02:24:21.760 that's why there's so many shipwrecks. It's because they're going 2863 02:24:21.760 --> 02:24:24.000 off of round Earth maps. If they were using flat 2864 02:24:24.040 --> 02:24:26.159 Earth maps, and it'd be that's not the case, Like, 2865 02:24:27.000 --> 02:24:28.520 that's why they're shipwrecks. 2866 02:24:29.799 --> 02:24:31.120 Got you, I. 2867 02:24:31.079 --> 02:24:33.840 Really know that I didn't know that Earth and Jupiter 2868 02:24:33.920 --> 02:24:35.479 have different rotation periods. 2869 02:24:35.559 --> 02:24:37.479 I knew that they were. I knew they were different. 2870 02:24:37.520 --> 02:24:40.360 I didn't realize how different Earth is twenty four hours 2871 02:24:40.399 --> 02:24:41.319 and Jupiter is ten. 2872 02:24:42.200 --> 02:24:44.440 Well, I mean Jupiter is also a giant gas ball, 2873 02:24:44.639 --> 02:24:46.319 so I mean that's that also adds to that, but 2874 02:24:46.360 --> 02:24:48.399 it's also massive compared to ours. 2875 02:24:48.840 --> 02:24:50.319 I just didn't realize that there was. 2876 02:24:50.440 --> 02:24:52.840 It was so much, so much shorter than ours, Like 2877 02:24:52.879 --> 02:24:55.680 ours is tilted at like twenty three point four degrees 2878 02:24:55.920 --> 02:24:58.520 and Jupiter is tilted at only three degrees. 2879 02:24:59.120 --> 02:25:01.120 That is, of course, if we were assuming that space is 2880 02:25:01.120 --> 02:25:02.000 not faking gay. 2881 02:25:03.399 --> 02:25:07.239 Right now, and that's the whole thing, right So moving 2882 02:25:07.280 --> 02:25:10.159 on here, I'm going to read a quote from Zodetic Astronomy. 2883 02:25:10.680 --> 02:25:13.120 No doubt many of our readers have been mystified in 2884 02:25:13.200 --> 02:25:16.719 surprise within the last week by the announcement that, in 2885 02:25:16.799 --> 02:25:20.280 three lectures at the Northampton Mechanics Institute, a gentleman who 2886 02:25:20.280 --> 02:25:23.559 calls himself Parallax would undertake to prove the Earth is 2887 02:25:23.600 --> 02:25:28.079 not a globe and see and c Okay. We were 2888 02:25:28.120 --> 02:25:31.399 highly gratified by the manner in which this important subject 2889 02:25:31.440 --> 02:25:34.680 was handled by Parallax, a pseudonym which the lecturer informed his. 2890 02:25:34.639 --> 02:25:37.760 Audience he had adopted in order to avert the effect. 2891 02:25:37.479 --> 02:25:42.319 Of an insinuation that his starting announcement is but the 2892 02:25:42.360 --> 02:25:45.239 morbid desire of an individual to be known as a 2893 02:25:45.280 --> 02:25:51.239 propounder of a philosophy boldly invariance with that of the 2894 02:25:51.280 --> 02:25:55.120 great astronomers of the past and present. So they're saying, basically, 2895 02:25:55.159 --> 02:25:57.840 this dude chose the name Parallax because he doesn't want 2896 02:25:57.879 --> 02:25:59.520 his own name to get out there. He's trying to 2897 02:25:59.520 --> 02:26:02.559 make himself sound like he's ancient in his knowledge. His 2898 02:26:02.639 --> 02:26:06.079 subject was handled in a plain and easy manner, his 2899 02:26:06.200 --> 02:26:10.159 language and illusions, proving him a man of education and thought, 2900 02:26:10.520 --> 02:26:14.520 and certainly not a pedant or what you might call 2901 02:26:14.760 --> 02:26:21.959 a pedestrian or uneducated. Right, the experiments mentioned divested of 2902 02:26:22.000 --> 02:26:27.799 technologically in their radical recital, rather and understandable by all 2903 02:26:28.120 --> 02:26:30.280 where of such a nature, or where of such a 2904 02:26:30.360 --> 02:26:33.600 nature as to cause a start of surprise at their 2905 02:26:33.639 --> 02:26:37.440 simplicity and truthfulness. It is not for us to pronounce 2906 02:26:37.479 --> 02:26:41.559 a verdict upon so important an issue. Parallax may be 2907 02:26:41.680 --> 02:26:45.360 an error, but as far as his reasonings from fact 2908 02:26:45.440 --> 02:26:49.280 and experiment go, there is much two set scientific men thinking. 2909 02:26:49.680 --> 02:26:53.479 His arguments consists of facts, and such are as pertinent 2910 02:26:53.799 --> 02:26:57.799 to all degrees of mental capacity in the discussion which followed. 2911 02:26:58.040 --> 02:27:01.479 Parallax certainly lost no ground either an answer to questions 2912 02:27:01.639 --> 02:27:05.520 or to some broad assertions. Quoted from leaned or learned authorities. 2913 02:27:06.040 --> 02:27:09.959 This is a quote from South Midland Free Press, August fourteenth, 2914 02:27:10.000 --> 02:27:13.319 eighteen fifty four. This is a journalist who was in 2915 02:27:13.399 --> 02:27:16.239 the room when he was doing one of his edutainment speeches, 2916 02:27:16.479 --> 02:27:19.079 and this was their take on it. He's saying, well, 2917 02:27:19.120 --> 02:27:21.440 clearly he didn't lose any ground. He didn't do this 2918 02:27:21.520 --> 02:27:24.079 and this and this. This is a journalist who is 2919 02:27:24.120 --> 02:27:26.680 not an educated person, so he wouldn't know who won 2920 02:27:26.799 --> 02:27:29.040 or lost a debate in this regard. This would be 2921 02:27:29.120 --> 02:27:33.600 like us listening to two quantum physicists who one getting 2922 02:27:33.680 --> 02:27:36.159 down with string theory and one getting down what was 2923 02:27:36.200 --> 02:27:40.000 that other theory the cloud or something like that, and 2924 02:27:40.079 --> 02:27:42.719 them debating this and us looking at like, wow, I mean, 2925 02:27:42.719 --> 02:27:45.760 they're both really educated, and neither side really sounded like 2926 02:27:45.799 --> 02:27:48.799 they were lost. In reality, one side probably trounced the other. 2927 02:27:48.840 --> 02:27:51.159 We just don't have the ears to hear that, if 2928 02:27:51.159 --> 02:27:55.920 that makes sense. They go into another example from the 2929 02:27:55.959 --> 02:28:00.280 Greenwich Free Press and the Warrington Advertiser. All of them 2930 02:28:00.440 --> 02:28:05.440 gave very, very kind of neutral reviews of these things, 2931 02:28:05.520 --> 02:28:07.760 making him sound not bad or good, just kind of 2932 02:28:07.799 --> 02:28:11.959 making all sides sound good. So he died right eighteen 2933 02:28:11.959 --> 02:28:14.639 eighty five. Even though he had the cure to live forever, 2934 02:28:15.319 --> 02:28:18.440 he died, which I also think is pretty important. He 2935 02:28:18.479 --> 02:28:21.799 died in his sixties. The American Association for the Advancement 2936 02:28:21.840 --> 02:28:26.040 of Science lists him as doctor Samuel Robottom in his 2937 02:28:26.200 --> 02:28:29.399 eighteen eighty five obituary, as does the obituary in the 2938 02:28:29.440 --> 02:28:33.760 English Mechanic of World Mechanic and World of Science. The 2939 02:28:33.799 --> 02:28:37.520 bookseller obituary confirms he was a practicing doctor of medicine 2940 02:28:37.520 --> 02:28:42.000 who exercises his legitimate profession with immense success quote unquote. 2941 02:28:42.719 --> 02:28:46.200 For some years past, doctor Robottom is the name of 2942 02:28:46.280 --> 02:28:51.000 doctor Burley exercises legitimate profession with immense success. He had 2943 02:28:51.040 --> 02:28:56.120 special medicine for his own manufacture free phosphorus quote unquote, 2944 02:28:56.360 --> 02:29:01.760 which he was reputed to be officiosis ef fiastious. I 2945 02:29:01.799 --> 02:29:04.520 don't know, in the cure of a variety of ailments 2946 02:29:04.680 --> 02:29:07.760 for some years past. Doctor Robottom could have never, under 2947 02:29:07.799 --> 02:29:13.360 any circum consideration been induced to travel by rail. Patients 2948 02:29:13.520 --> 02:29:15.799 or friends at a distance wishing to see him had 2949 02:29:15.799 --> 02:29:18.600 to send their carriages for him, and within the last 2950 02:29:18.639 --> 02:29:21.559 few months he visited Brighton for the benefit of his health, 2951 02:29:21.639 --> 02:29:25.680 journeying to and fro in a private carriage. Curiously enough, 2952 02:29:25.760 --> 02:29:29.680 the mode of con convenience in which he placed his 2953 02:29:29.760 --> 02:29:33.520 faith accelerated his death. On an occasion several months passed 2954 02:29:33.879 --> 02:29:37.239 when in aligned from a cab, he slipped and injured 2955 02:29:37.280 --> 02:29:40.479 his leg, and from that time his health gradually failed. 2956 02:29:41.440 --> 02:29:43.840 There's a poem written on his tombstone, but by this 2957 02:29:43.920 --> 02:29:45.840 point the weathering is so bad that we really can't 2958 02:29:45.879 --> 02:29:46.600 tell what it says. 2959 02:29:47.600 --> 02:29:50.040 So take that how you want it, right, Did. 2960 02:29:49.920 --> 02:29:52.600 He even have a doctorate? No, did he actually have 2961 02:29:52.719 --> 02:29:55.000 a real doct So they just gave it to him. 2962 02:29:55.280 --> 02:29:56.959 He just kind of said it enough times. 2963 02:29:56.959 --> 02:29:58.879 And this is back in the day and age, where like, 2964 02:29:59.040 --> 02:30:01.680 are you gonna call the university that he claims he's 2965 02:30:01.680 --> 02:30:05.120 from from bumfuck Nowheresville and ask his credentials. He's got 2966 02:30:05.120 --> 02:30:07.799 a paper and it has a really nice logo on 2967 02:30:07.879 --> 02:30:11.520 it and it looks really clean, so like, clearly he's 2968 02:30:11.520 --> 02:30:13.159 got he's got the credentials. 2969 02:30:13.399 --> 02:30:16.479 And if you just say it enough times, then yeah, 2970 02:30:16.639 --> 02:30:19.440 sure he's a doctor of something. Of what I don't 2971 02:30:19.440 --> 02:30:21.840 fucking know. He calls himself doctor. He goes by Parallax. 2972 02:30:21.879 --> 02:30:24.799 I don't know, but that was that was the guy. 2973 02:30:25.360 --> 02:30:28.520 I mean, John Cena was the doctor of thugnomics. Okay, 2974 02:30:28.639 --> 02:30:32.280 doctor Dre, I imagine that he had a degree y doctor, 2975 02:30:33.239 --> 02:30:33.799 very similar. 2976 02:30:33.799 --> 02:30:36.639 Can y'all imagine a time three hundred years from now 2977 02:30:36.959 --> 02:30:40.280 where somehow people think that doctor Dre had a doctorate 2978 02:30:40.479 --> 02:30:45.280 in acoustics in music, because well, he made a bunch 2979 02:30:45.280 --> 02:30:48.520 of music. He made like best selling albums. The whole 2980 02:30:48.559 --> 02:30:50.600 world knows his name. He went by doctor. He must 2981 02:30:50.639 --> 02:30:53.600 have had a doctorate in something like No, no. 2982 02:30:53.440 --> 02:30:55.879 He's been doing it for more than eight to twelve years. 2983 02:30:55.639 --> 02:30:58.319 So, but he has no credentials to back the claim 2984 02:30:58.319 --> 02:31:01.399 that he's a doctor. It's very very similar to this guy. 2985 02:31:02.200 --> 02:31:03.399 You just say it enough times. 2986 02:31:03.879 --> 02:31:07.239 Dentists are also called doctors though, Yeah, a doctor of 2987 02:31:07.319 --> 02:31:12.680 dental science a DDS. I know, I understand what, I 2988 02:31:12.760 --> 02:31:15.040 understand what you're saying. I'm just saying that, like you. 2989 02:31:15.000 --> 02:31:19.239 Know, Doc Holliday. Doc Holliday was an actual doctor of dentistry. 2990 02:31:21.600 --> 02:31:25.360 Oh yeah, we had that guy on the show Doc Holiday. 2991 02:31:25.559 --> 02:31:27.559 That's what that's the name. He went by you remember 2992 02:31:27.680 --> 02:31:28.000 I do. 2993 02:31:28.239 --> 02:31:30.959 Oh speaking of Actually, i'll tell you about this later 2994 02:31:31.040 --> 02:31:33.440 on Scott Pace. I saw him at church today. We're 2995 02:31:33.440 --> 02:31:35.079 gonna get the big foot guy back on the show 2996 02:31:35.120 --> 02:31:37.440 here soon. He apparently more things have happened, so like, 2997 02:31:37.559 --> 02:31:38.399 I'm stoked about that. 2998 02:31:38.520 --> 02:31:43.600 But anyway, anyway, yeah, waits in the parish. 2999 02:31:43.680 --> 02:31:45.840 Oh yeah, no, I live like four doors down from 3000 02:31:45.879 --> 02:31:48.040 his daughter, and uh, I didn't know he even went 3001 02:31:48.079 --> 02:31:48.559 to my church. 3002 02:31:48.600 --> 02:31:49.959 I saw him this morning. I was like, wait, is 3003 02:31:49.959 --> 02:31:51.840 that Scott Like, I don't let it go. 3004 02:31:51.959 --> 02:31:54.399 It was whatever. I go out, I'm walking my kids 3005 02:31:54.399 --> 02:31:57.479 to the car and he's like Jacob. I'm like, Scott, dude, 3006 02:31:57.479 --> 02:31:59.280 what is up? And we just kind of chopped up 3007 02:31:59.280 --> 02:32:00.520 for a second in the park. I was like, I 3008 02:32:00.520 --> 02:32:02.040 would love to come back on your show, man. I've 3009 02:32:02.040 --> 02:32:03.680 been keeping up with y'all. I would love to come 3010 02:32:03.680 --> 02:32:05.280 back on and talk about some things. I'm like, is 3011 02:32:05.319 --> 02:32:07.120 there more? He's like, Oh, there's so much more. 3012 02:32:07.159 --> 02:32:10.239 I'm like, brother, We're gonna get together someplace else. 3013 02:32:10.280 --> 02:32:12.639 When you guys were chatting the other day about this 3014 02:32:12.719 --> 02:32:14.799 and I was like, oh, he probably lives you know where. 3015 02:32:15.680 --> 02:32:18.879 His first bigfoot experience was in Kassachi. National Forest, but 3016 02:32:19.000 --> 02:32:22.719 he lives here. He's got family land out that way 3017 02:32:22.799 --> 02:32:24.719 up and now it's Andrew Area. But now he lived 3018 02:32:24.760 --> 02:32:26.120 in Perryville for show. 3019 02:32:26.799 --> 02:32:30.879 Wait, he's saying that we got Sam's scam stances down here, like. 3020 02:32:31.319 --> 02:32:32.920 Oh, he has them living in his home. 3021 02:32:33.559 --> 02:32:37.559 Yeah, here in Prairieville, we're. 3022 02:32:37.360 --> 02:32:39.840 Gonna have one. He'll do a way better job explaining 3023 02:32:39.840 --> 02:32:40.440 it than I could. 3024 02:32:40.559 --> 02:32:43.079 I love Scott so much, can't I can't wait to 3025 02:32:43.079 --> 02:32:45.360 hear this, all. 3026 02:32:45.319 --> 02:32:50.200 Right, dude, Chris Matthew made a whole documentary on him. 3027 02:32:50.360 --> 02:32:52.879 Yeah, yeah, Forbidden Knowledge. 3028 02:32:52.479 --> 02:32:55.799 News, Yeah, which shot out by the way, I just 3029 02:32:55.840 --> 02:32:57.159 went on there earlier today. 3030 02:32:57.000 --> 02:32:59.959 Did you Hell Yeah, he's a Louisiannibal. 3031 02:33:00.440 --> 02:33:02.559 Yes, indeed, all right, I'm gonna go ahead and share 3032 02:33:02.600 --> 02:33:03.680 the screen at this time. 3033 02:33:03.959 --> 02:33:06.319 And I got this little clip of a video. 3034 02:33:06.040 --> 02:33:08.200 That I'm gonna pull up that kind of talks about 3035 02:33:08.200 --> 02:33:11.479 his experiment, how went down, and how the people responded 3036 02:33:11.520 --> 02:33:13.479 to it. I think you'll do a lot better job 3037 02:33:13.479 --> 02:33:15.920 of I than I can of explaining. This is from 3038 02:33:16.079 --> 02:33:18.040 Extra History, shout out the YouTube channel. 3039 02:33:18.360 --> 02:33:21.600 So let's learn more about Parallax, the father of what 3040 02:33:21.639 --> 02:33:24.120 we would now call modern flat Earth. Conversation. 3041 02:33:24.920 --> 02:33:28.319 Now, it should be noted that this professed belief of 3042 02:33:28.559 --> 02:33:33.680 Robottoms was weird, though several ancient religions had believed in 3043 02:33:33.719 --> 02:33:37.319 a cosmology that included a flat earth. Philosophers in ancient 3044 02:33:37.360 --> 02:33:40.639 Greece had proved the world was round, and that knowledge 3045 02:33:40.680 --> 02:33:44.879 was widespread in the medieval world and universally accepted by 3046 02:33:44.920 --> 02:33:48.680 the Renaissance, which is part of what gave Robottoms lecture 3047 02:33:49.079 --> 02:33:51.840 such a good hook. See, he lived in a time 3048 02:33:52.120 --> 02:33:56.479 of lectures as entertainment, when a traveling lecturer could make 3049 02:33:56.520 --> 02:34:01.159 a lot of money speaking on a specialized topic like literature, history, 3050 02:34:01.280 --> 02:34:05.719 and especially science. Victorian sensibilities really pushed the idea of 3051 02:34:05.799 --> 02:34:10.399 self betterment through education and mechanics. Institutes sprung up all 3052 02:34:10.399 --> 02:34:14.440 over Britain, offering space to lecturers and courses to educate 3053 02:34:14.559 --> 02:34:17.920 the working classes. Though some of these lecturers were legitimate 3054 02:34:17.920 --> 02:34:21.120 teachers and writers, many were Charlatan's in it for the 3055 02:34:21.159 --> 02:34:24.520 attention and money. In some ways it was the beginning 3056 02:34:24.680 --> 02:34:28.360 of edutainment. And of course, the more eye catching and 3057 02:34:28.520 --> 02:34:31.559 controversial topic, the more you could pack a lecture hall 3058 02:34:31.639 --> 02:34:35.639 for a sixpence or more per seat. Baby like okay, 3059 02:34:35.639 --> 02:34:38.280 maybe you don't believe that the world is flat, But 3060 02:34:38.639 --> 02:34:40.959 isn't it worth it to pay a sixpence to watch 3061 02:34:40.959 --> 02:34:45.239 a guide? Try to convince you of something so nuts? Like, seriously, 3062 02:34:45.360 --> 02:34:48.360 try to imagine a world where people watched pop culture 3063 02:34:48.440 --> 02:34:53.840 versions of academic subjects as mass entertainment. Imagine it? Are 3064 02:34:53.879 --> 02:34:56.000 you imagining it yet? Do you have it in your 3065 02:34:56.040 --> 02:35:00.000 mind's eye? Yeah? Of course it sounds like YouTube, doesn't it. 3066 02:35:00.120 --> 02:35:02.959 This is pretty much like Victorian YouTube we're talking about. 3067 02:35:03.360 --> 02:35:06.639 Robotom's first lecture was covered by the local press, where 3068 02:35:06.680 --> 02:35:10.239 apparently he laid out what would be his consistent arguments 3069 02:35:10.280 --> 02:35:13.600 for the next three decades, namely that the Earth was 3070 02:35:13.600 --> 02:35:16.200 not a globe. It was more like a pizza, with 3071 02:35:16.399 --> 02:35:19.239 the north pole at its center and a big ice 3072 02:35:19.319 --> 02:35:22.920 wall around the outside forming the pizza crust. Also, the 3073 02:35:23.000 --> 02:35:25.920 Earth did not orbit the Sun. Instead, the Sun moved 3074 02:35:25.920 --> 02:35:28.719 in a circular path above the Earth, and the Moon 3075 02:35:28.920 --> 02:35:31.840 was not lit due to its reflection, but because it 3076 02:35:31.959 --> 02:35:35.799 was a self illuminating object. Both were close rather than far, 3077 02:35:36.040 --> 02:35:39.040 with the Sun only four thousand miles from the Earth's surface, 3078 02:35:39.200 --> 02:35:41.879 and the stars were not other suns far away, but 3079 02:35:42.120 --> 02:35:45.319 points of light in the Great vault of Heaven. In fact, 3080 02:35:45.399 --> 02:35:48.239 the Earth was the only planet, and below it were 3081 02:35:48.239 --> 02:35:52.120 the primordial waters mentioned in Genesis before the Earth's creation, 3082 02:35:52.440 --> 02:35:55.239 and the rocking of the Great Plate is what caused 3083 02:35:55.239 --> 02:35:59.559 the tides rather than the Moon's gravitational poll According to Robottom, 3084 02:35:59.639 --> 02:36:02.520 the new time Tonian scientists had it wrong, not due 3085 02:36:02.559 --> 02:36:05.840 to some conspiracy, mind you, but because they were arrogant 3086 02:36:05.879 --> 02:36:09.399 and imaginative and could not prove their theories apart from 3087 02:36:09.440 --> 02:36:14.360 thought experiments. Meanwhile, Robottom's philosophy, which he called zetetic astronomy, 3088 02:36:14.440 --> 02:36:17.840 relied on experiments that anyone could replicate at home. This was, 3089 02:36:17.840 --> 02:36:21.680 of course hogwash. Astronomers of the time had plenty of 3090 02:36:21.760 --> 02:36:24.600 hard evidence to back up their claims, but it often 3091 02:36:24.639 --> 02:36:28.719 relied on math that was difficult for lay people to understand. Ironically, 3092 02:36:29.120 --> 02:36:33.680 Robottom relied on this same weakness to argue for his theories. 3093 02:36:34.000 --> 02:36:36.760 He threw a lot of math and diagrams at his 3094 02:36:36.799 --> 02:36:40.079 audience that were hard to follow or refute, and he 3095 02:36:40.159 --> 02:36:43.680 packaged it all in an anti elite language which would 3096 02:36:43.680 --> 02:36:46.799 appeal to the common audience member. After all, this was 3097 02:36:46.840 --> 02:36:50.639 still very much an era of the gentleman astronomer. Formal 3098 02:36:50.719 --> 02:36:54.600 degrees and even the term science were not yet widely used, 3099 02:36:54.680 --> 02:36:57.559 and the field was basically a playground for the rich, 3100 02:36:57.639 --> 02:37:00.559 upper class men like Newton who didn't have to work 3101 02:37:00.600 --> 02:37:04.319 to support themselves. But he also pushed on another hot 3102 02:37:04.360 --> 02:37:08.840 button topic because wall Robottom jabbed with math diagrams and 3103 02:37:08.920 --> 02:37:12.239 supposed refutations of Newton's view of the world. His right 3104 02:37:12.280 --> 02:37:14.840 hook was that his version of the world lined up 3105 02:37:14.879 --> 02:37:18.799 with Biblical literalism. In his talk, he said astronomers were 3106 02:37:18.840 --> 02:37:23.680 not simply wrong, they were attacking religion by contradicting Biblical teachings. 3107 02:37:23.840 --> 02:37:26.479 Then he closed the presentation with the idea that phosphorus 3108 02:37:26.479 --> 02:37:29.719 could make you immortal. Robotom's first lecture was met with 3109 02:37:29.799 --> 02:37:33.040 good reviews in the local paper, apart from the phosphorus part, 3110 02:37:33.239 --> 02:37:36.680 which was so derided that he never again promoted it 3111 02:37:36.719 --> 02:37:39.159 in a flat earth lecture that, of course, would be 3112 02:37:39.200 --> 02:37:42.200 spun off into its own separate business. Where he ran 3113 02:37:42.239 --> 02:37:45.399 into trouble, however, was at his second lecture in the 3114 02:37:45.440 --> 02:37:49.399 town of Burnley, where during the post lectured debate, someone 3115 02:37:49.520 --> 02:37:52.879 asked him why ships disappeared from the bottom when sailing 3116 02:37:52.920 --> 02:37:56.840 out to sea. At this question, he panicked, then said 3117 02:37:56.879 --> 02:37:59.000 he'd have a good answer in the second part of 3118 02:37:59.000 --> 02:38:02.959 his lecture the next night, and promptly skipped town. The 3119 02:38:03.079 --> 02:38:06.479 local paper then recorded the audience jeering when he didn't 3120 02:38:06.520 --> 02:38:09.600 show up the next day, joking that Parallax had obviously 3121 02:38:09.840 --> 02:38:12.399 slipped off the ice edge of his flat disc and 3122 02:38:12.440 --> 02:38:14.399 would not be seen until he peeped up on the 3123 02:38:14.440 --> 02:38:17.760 other side. By his next outing, he had researched the 3124 02:38:17.760 --> 02:38:21.440 most common counter arguments to his theory and rehearsed quick 3125 02:38:21.680 --> 02:38:26.360 and more importantly, often humorous comebacks to every single one. 3126 02:38:26.680 --> 02:38:29.719 These two were, of course unsupported nonsense, but it was 3127 02:38:29.760 --> 02:38:33.399 the fact that he was entertaining and appeared knowledgeable that 3128 02:38:33.600 --> 02:38:36.840 made him, to a layperson watching, seem like he knew 3129 02:38:36.840 --> 02:38:40.360 more than his opponents. He developed other strategies as well, 3130 02:38:40.799 --> 02:38:43.879 like when questioners pressed him too hard, he'd claim they 3131 02:38:43.920 --> 02:38:46.520 were being selfish and taking up too much time from 3132 02:38:46.559 --> 02:38:49.159 other people who wanted to speak. When he did not 3133 02:38:49.319 --> 02:38:52.760 have a satisfactory answer, he would pivot to a different 3134 02:38:52.799 --> 02:38:56.920 topping entirely, or turn questions around and challenged the questioner 3135 02:38:57.000 --> 02:39:00.600 to name statistics that he'd memorized. He'd asked them to 3136 02:39:00.639 --> 02:39:03.680 prove there wasn't an ice wall and throw out too 3137 02:39:03.680 --> 02:39:05.799 many falsehoods to refute. 3138 02:39:05.639 --> 02:39:06.760 Not real quick. 3139 02:39:07.200 --> 02:39:10.360 If this sounds like any flat Earth talking head that 3140 02:39:10.440 --> 02:39:13.520 you know of, that is because they're literally taking their 3141 02:39:13.559 --> 02:39:17.200 notes from Parallax, just throwing this out, not dropping names, 3142 02:39:17.200 --> 02:39:19.239 because I'm not trying to be that guy here. But 3143 02:39:19.319 --> 02:39:21.639 if you're talking to somebody who's gonna bring up eight 3144 02:39:21.680 --> 02:39:22.680 different points. 3145 02:39:22.399 --> 02:39:24.360 Before you can refute the first point. 3146 02:39:24.319 --> 02:39:26.600 They're bringing up a bunch of statistics and math that 3147 02:39:26.799 --> 02:39:29.239 makes no sense out loud, and then as soon as 3148 02:39:29.280 --> 02:39:31.600 you ask them a solid question, they divert to fifteen 3149 02:39:31.639 --> 02:39:35.280 other points. They're gonna bring in some sort of religion, 3150 02:39:35.280 --> 02:39:37.239 doesn't have to be midlical, it could be any religious 3151 02:39:37.239 --> 02:39:39.520 talking points to try to make their point make more sense. 3152 02:39:40.319 --> 02:39:42.479 All of these things, and they're gonna make it very humorous. 3153 02:39:42.479 --> 02:39:44.799 They're gonna be very likable in nature. They got that 3154 02:39:44.879 --> 02:39:47.520 kind of cult of personality vibe to them. All of 3155 02:39:47.559 --> 02:39:51.319 these things. There's a reason, because of the tried and 3156 02:39:51.360 --> 02:39:55.239 true method that this guy literally professionalized in. 3157 02:39:55.959 --> 02:39:57.920 I'm about to get my alanis more set on and 3158 02:39:57.920 --> 02:39:59.639 get a little ironic up in this bitch. 3159 02:39:59.799 --> 02:40:00.079 H So. 3160 02:40:01.639 --> 02:40:05.000 How about it's funny that he was saying that, you know, 3161 02:40:05.079 --> 02:40:07.520 people that don't believe in the globe Earth are the 3162 02:40:07.559 --> 02:40:10.959 people that are trying to push globe Earth are inherently 3163 02:40:11.159 --> 02:40:14.959 against Christianity, right and so, but at the same time 3164 02:40:15.239 --> 02:40:19.879 he's selling phosphorus, yeah, which literally the Greek named it 3165 02:40:19.959 --> 02:40:25.520 that because it's the light bearer. So it's like so 3166 02:40:25.680 --> 02:40:30.559 ironic that the Christian guy is trying to push lucifer, Right. 3167 02:40:30.559 --> 02:40:34.600 You see that too, and it's it's but that again, 3168 02:40:34.840 --> 02:40:37.520 to your average late person in the early to mid 3169 02:40:37.559 --> 02:40:39.920 eighteen hundreds, they would have never had that source. 3170 02:40:39.959 --> 02:40:40.680 We have Google. 3171 02:40:40.879 --> 02:40:43.079 We can quickly google everything we're hearing about, right, and 3172 02:40:43.120 --> 02:40:45.319 oil it's literally snake. 3173 02:40:45.040 --> 02:40:48.440 Oil, I know, but and it's snake oil, which you know, 3174 02:40:48.760 --> 02:40:52.319 the snake you know, the whole thing, Yeah, you know, 3175 02:40:52.479 --> 02:40:56.399 the whole thing. And is liberry, yeah, you know wild 3176 02:40:56.799 --> 02:40:57.959 how that all happens. 3177 02:40:58.479 --> 02:41:02.399 It'd be like that. And again we have Google right here. 3178 02:41:02.120 --> 02:41:05.239 We are in the age of information and disinformation. I 3179 02:41:05.280 --> 02:41:08.319 get that, But we can search every single point that 3180 02:41:08.399 --> 02:41:10.799 is being made here and find a quick answer to 3181 02:41:10.879 --> 02:41:13.760 the people of the early eighteen hundreds, especially the uneducated 3182 02:41:13.840 --> 02:41:17.440 that we're paying to hear these edutainment style lectures. They 3183 02:41:17.479 --> 02:41:19.719 had no source to combat any of this shit. They 3184 02:41:19.760 --> 02:41:22.959 were just asking questions that they thought of, and if 3185 02:41:23.000 --> 02:41:25.239 he gave a reasonable enough answer that sounded like he 3186 02:41:25.280 --> 02:41:27.280 knew what he was talking about, Oh huh, I guess 3187 02:41:27.280 --> 02:41:28.159 I'd answer my question. 3188 02:41:28.200 --> 02:41:31.479 Br br burp. No one really questioned until they did, 3189 02:41:32.200 --> 02:41:33.559 until they're from. 3190 02:41:33.639 --> 02:41:37.399 What I found is that uh, phosphorus and very very 3191 02:41:37.399 --> 02:41:41.079 small amounts of their bones and energy and repair tissues, 3192 02:41:41.079 --> 02:41:44.639 but literally like the most amount you can take as 3193 02:41:44.680 --> 02:41:47.920 an adult. I imagine you got to be a sizeable 3194 02:41:48.120 --> 02:41:51.639 adult to take this. But twelve hundred and fifty milligrams 3195 02:41:51.840 --> 02:41:53.799 he was feeding his children's tablespoons. 3196 02:41:55.040 --> 02:41:58.479 Oh yeah, Well, he's just horrible, but he But that's 3197 02:41:58.520 --> 02:41:58.799 the thing. 3198 02:41:58.840 --> 02:42:00.799 As far as him being a charlot goes, which I 3199 02:42:00.799 --> 02:42:03.559 do believe he was in a certain regard, I will 3200 02:42:03.600 --> 02:42:06.840 say he absolutely believed in what he. 3201 02:42:06.760 --> 02:42:08.680 Was talking about, at least to a certain degree. 3202 02:42:08.760 --> 02:42:11.159 Otherwise he himself would have been taken this much or 3203 02:42:11.239 --> 02:42:14.559 giving his children this much, although he may not have 3204 02:42:14.600 --> 02:42:17.159 actually given a fuck about his children. That's another option. 3205 02:42:17.360 --> 02:42:20.079 I have no actual basis to go off of on 3206 02:42:20.159 --> 02:42:23.719 that one, but it's it's one of these things you 3207 02:42:23.719 --> 02:42:26.239 see what I mean. It's it's your boy was wild 3208 02:42:26.440 --> 02:42:29.600 and if it wasn't for him. Again, by the early Renaissance, 3209 02:42:30.040 --> 02:42:34.559 everyone not even the educated, every lay person, every random 3210 02:42:34.840 --> 02:42:38.319 farmer knew that the earth was round. So why did 3211 02:42:38.319 --> 02:42:40.200 it become a thing in the eighteen hundreds that became 3212 02:42:40.239 --> 02:42:42.040 the flatter society of the nineteen fifties. 3213 02:42:42.879 --> 02:42:44.840 It was because of parallax anyway. 3214 02:42:45.079 --> 02:42:49.399 Just to compare here, the most that a large adult 3215 02:42:49.440 --> 02:42:53.319 can take is two hundred and fifty milligrams of phosphorus. 3216 02:42:54.760 --> 02:42:59.239 A tablespoon is fifteen thousand milligrams. 3217 02:42:59.600 --> 02:43:05.719 He was giving his infant children multiple tablespoonsze Like, yeah, 3218 02:43:05.840 --> 02:43:09.639 tablespoon is like twelve times more than the suggested amount 3219 02:43:09.760 --> 02:43:11.000 for a sizable human. 3220 02:43:11.280 --> 02:43:13.280 And he was claiming killed him on purpose. 3221 02:43:13.680 --> 02:43:15.200 It could be, could be. 3222 02:43:15.319 --> 02:43:18.040 They didn't say they didn't have to feed him. 3223 02:43:17.520 --> 02:43:19.319 But this was his thing. 3224 02:43:19.360 --> 02:43:22.079 Well, he got really wealthy from doing these lectures and 3225 02:43:22.120 --> 02:43:23.520 all these talking points and all these things. 3226 02:43:23.559 --> 02:43:26.399 Regardless of whatever lawsuits he faced, he was able to 3227 02:43:26.520 --> 02:43:28.959 skip town, change his name to one of his other aliases, 3228 02:43:29.000 --> 02:43:30.719 and continue making monet. 3229 02:43:31.000 --> 02:43:34.799 But yeah, he it's very possible he purposely killed his children. 3230 02:43:34.879 --> 02:43:39.200 I have no credible evidence to suggest such. But it 3231 02:43:39.280 --> 02:43:41.399 is there is a greater than zero percent chance that 3232 02:43:41.559 --> 02:43:44.079 was actually his plan all along. I can't refute that 3233 02:43:44.280 --> 02:43:48.079 also as far as the possibility goes. But anyway, this 3234 02:43:48.200 --> 02:43:51.000 dude is the only reason we still talk about flatter today. 3235 02:43:51.040 --> 02:43:52.879 But let's continue. I only got a few more minutes 3236 02:43:52.920 --> 02:43:53.479 on this one. 3237 02:43:54.120 --> 02:43:57.680 To mention subtly making fun of Newtonian proofs by using 3238 02:43:57.719 --> 02:44:02.600 words like rotundity to make the idea seem ridiculous. Crucially, 3239 02:44:02.680 --> 02:44:08.719 though through all this nonsense, Robottom was unfailingly polite and 3240 02:44:08.920 --> 02:44:12.360 kept his tone, even which granted him more and more 3241 02:44:12.399 --> 02:44:16.600 authority with the audience as his opponents, who increasingly included 3242 02:44:16.719 --> 02:44:22.120 actual scientists, navigators and sailors, became frustrated and angry as 3243 02:44:22.159 --> 02:44:26.920 he piled on disingenuous arguments. But this growing fame also 3244 02:44:27.040 --> 02:44:30.799 meant that Parallax's opponents leveled up as well. By the 3245 02:44:30.840 --> 02:44:34.559 eighteen sixties, people were writing the Astronomer Royal to get 3246 02:44:34.600 --> 02:44:38.280 refutations of his ideas, and in Greenwich, the center of 3247 02:44:38.399 --> 02:44:42.200 British navigation science and a haven for sailors who had 3248 02:44:42.399 --> 02:44:46.319 actually been to the southern Oceans, they challenged him to 3249 02:44:46.399 --> 02:44:50.159 the experiment at Plymouth. From the start of this episode, 3250 02:44:50.760 --> 02:44:54.959 the stakes were this. The Newtonians argued that with their calculations, 3251 02:44:55.120 --> 02:44:58.360 the lighthouse would be just over the edge of the curvature, 3252 02:44:58.520 --> 02:45:02.520 and with atmospheric ref fraction accounted for, the whole lighthouse 3253 02:45:02.559 --> 02:45:05.360 would be visible from the cliff, but only the lamp 3254 02:45:05.440 --> 02:45:09.680 should be visible from the rocks. Parallax insisted the entire 3255 02:45:09.840 --> 02:45:15.000 lighthouse would be visible from both perspectives, except neither happened 3256 02:45:15.360 --> 02:45:18.879 because atmospheric conditions that day meant that the refraction was 3257 02:45:18.959 --> 02:45:23.879 actually less than normal, meaning only half the lamp was visible. Yeah, 3258 02:45:23.959 --> 02:45:27.840 the lighthouse was actually further obscured by the curvature than 3259 02:45:27.879 --> 02:45:32.840 the Newtonians calculated, and Parallax was more wrong. Despite this, 3260 02:45:33.239 --> 02:45:36.360 Parallax turned to the watching crowd and declared in a 3261 02:45:36.600 --> 02:45:41.440 victorious tone that because the Newtonians had miscalculated clearly, they 3262 02:45:41.479 --> 02:45:45.159 had proved that their models were all faulty and no 3263 02:45:45.200 --> 02:45:47.959 one should trust them. He then went on to publish 3264 02:45:47.959 --> 02:45:51.360 his monumental zodetic astronomy book the next year titled Oh 3265 02:45:51.639 --> 02:45:52.760 give me strengthen, is. 3266 02:45:52.719 --> 02:45:55.799 It real quick? Real quick? Before he reads off this 3267 02:45:56.040 --> 02:45:58.760 very long pamphlet that he posted the next year. 3268 02:45:58.760 --> 02:46:00.479 I already read you at the first place. It was 3269 02:46:00.479 --> 02:46:05.000 called y'all understand what just happened. This is very similar 3270 02:46:05.040 --> 02:46:08.120 to that experiment that certain flat earthers did not dropping names, 3271 02:46:08.200 --> 02:46:10.239 where they went to the desert and shot a laser 3272 02:46:10.799 --> 02:46:13.040 and they were saying, how this laser's three feet off 3273 02:46:13.079 --> 02:46:15.600 the ground. They put the little platform three feet off 3274 02:46:15.639 --> 02:46:17.600 the ground and should hit. Okay, well it didn't. Let's 3275 02:46:17.639 --> 02:46:19.600 raise it a little bit, a little bit, a little bit, 3276 02:46:19.680 --> 02:46:22.000 a little bit, and then they finally hit. And when 3277 02:46:22.000 --> 02:46:24.879 you do the math, it shows clearly that the curvature 3278 02:46:24.879 --> 02:46:28.200 of the Earth is exactly what scientists say, like exactly, 3279 02:46:29.000 --> 02:46:32.479 it was literally that. And somehow, the same way the 3280 02:46:32.520 --> 02:46:35.000 flat earthers on that video claimed that this was a 3281 02:46:35.079 --> 02:46:38.200 victory for them somehow is the exact same way Parallax 3282 02:46:38.239 --> 02:46:39.920 claimed that this was a victory for him. 3283 02:46:39.760 --> 02:46:42.760 Because well, you weren't right either, so ha I won. 3284 02:46:42.920 --> 02:46:47.600 It's like, bro, you missed the entire point at this experiment, clearly, 3285 02:46:47.639 --> 02:46:49.600 but you're doing that to try to save face. And 3286 02:46:49.680 --> 02:46:53.319 I get that because your livelihood is dependent upon you 3287 02:46:54.280 --> 02:46:56.879 having some sort of credibility and you just lost all 3288 02:46:56.920 --> 02:47:00.799 of it. Yeah, So Anyway, y'all see where I'm going 3289 02:47:00.840 --> 02:47:04.159 with this. But okay, this long ass pamphlet he published 3290 02:47:04.159 --> 02:47:05.920 the next year is called. 3291 02:47:06.159 --> 02:47:09.200 Tetech Astronomy, The Earth Is Not a Globe, an experimental 3292 02:47:09.200 --> 02:47:11.760 inquiry into the true figure of the Earth, proving it 3293 02:47:11.799 --> 02:47:14.799 a plane without axial or orbital motion and the only 3294 02:47:14.840 --> 02:47:19.520 material world in the universe. Thirty four words to Colin's 3295 02:47:19.559 --> 02:47:22.680 two exclamation points and zero self awareness. It was a 3296 02:47:22.760 --> 02:47:25.920 best seller, and though many copies were likely bought as 3297 02:47:25.959 --> 02:47:29.120 a gag gift, it continues to this day to influence 3298 02:47:29.159 --> 02:47:33.760 the flat Earth movement. Parallax was refuted again and again, 3299 02:47:33.920 --> 02:47:37.159 but he spawned a group of rabid disciples who published 3300 02:47:37.239 --> 02:47:41.840 zetetic magazines, argued on his behalf, and frequently went beyond 3301 02:47:41.959 --> 02:47:45.680 his genial nature to stage personal tax in his name, 3302 02:47:46.000 --> 02:47:49.760 even lawsuits. At other times, he agreed to further quote 3303 02:47:49.840 --> 02:47:54.280 experiments against Newtonians, but developed a strategy where he'd show 3304 02:47:54.360 --> 02:47:57.399 up late, then pull out, claiming that they had breached 3305 02:47:57.440 --> 02:47:59.920 the rules by setting up the equipment without him. While 3306 02:48:00.319 --> 02:48:03.639 he drifted back into pseudoscience medicine, claiming to be a 3307 02:48:03.719 --> 02:48:07.120 doctor again in the eighteen seventies and producing a drink 3308 02:48:07.200 --> 02:48:11.120 called Doctor Burley's Syrup of free Phosphorus, a type of 3309 02:48:11.159 --> 02:48:15.319 early soda, he marketed through zodetic magazines, becoming a rich 3310 02:48:15.399 --> 02:48:18.879 man before his phosphate regiment apparently failed him, and he 3311 02:48:18.959 --> 02:48:22.600 died in eighteen eighty four at the age of sixty eight. 3312 02:48:22.840 --> 02:48:24.799 Eagle eyed viewers will note that is quite a bit 3313 02:48:24.920 --> 02:48:28.440 under immortal. Even in the eighteen fifties, when he left 3314 02:48:28.440 --> 02:48:30.959 his wife to marry the fifteen year old daughter of 3315 02:48:31.000 --> 02:48:35.840 his maid, he was never fully discredited. They had fourteen children, 3316 02:48:36.000 --> 02:48:39.479 only four of which survived to adulthood, possibly, according to 3317 02:48:39.520 --> 02:48:44.280 one account, because he gave them all his own claque medicines. Sadly, however, 3318 02:48:44.520 --> 02:48:47.399 Robottom is not the end of the flat Earth story. 3319 02:48:48.079 --> 02:48:48.840 No he is not. 3320 02:48:49.760 --> 02:48:52.799 And because of this guy we saw the flat Earth 3321 02:48:52.799 --> 02:48:56.680 conversation a day. Also, I didn't mention this. Apparently your 3322 02:48:56.680 --> 02:48:59.520 boy married the fifteen year old daughter of his maid. 3323 02:49:00.000 --> 02:49:02.799 Whenever I said fifteen earlier, I did leave out that 3324 02:49:02.879 --> 02:49:06.399 load detail. So all of this to be said here 3325 02:49:06.879 --> 02:49:10.280 you see how the flat Earth movement grew from this 3326 02:49:10.719 --> 02:49:14.719 and gain legs in and of itself. They have brought 3327 02:49:15.120 --> 02:49:18.879 so many things to light. They really, really, really have. 3328 02:49:19.680 --> 02:49:23.840 But at the same time, it's not just this one guy. 3329 02:49:23.959 --> 02:49:27.239 The sources he was claiming that he got his information 3330 02:49:27.319 --> 02:49:30.440 from are the same sources of flat earthers today claim 3331 02:49:30.440 --> 02:49:33.799 they're getting their information from, and or people that are 3332 02:49:34.079 --> 02:49:38.520 disciples of his a few decades after his death. All this, 3333 02:49:38.719 --> 02:49:42.399 all this ties in to make it seem really unlikely, 3334 02:49:43.520 --> 02:49:45.799 just all of the stories alone. Forget the science and 3335 02:49:45.799 --> 02:49:48.399 the physics and the math and all these things, just 3336 02:49:48.479 --> 02:49:49.600 the storyline of itself. 3337 02:49:49.600 --> 02:49:51.479 The flat Earth conversation is. 3338 02:49:52.959 --> 02:49:57.600 A dubious proposition at best, but it is still my 3339 02:49:57.639 --> 02:50:02.479 favorite conspiracy theory. It really is is because these people, wholeheartedly, 3340 02:50:03.120 --> 02:50:07.000 deep deep within their heart of hearts, believe this to 3341 02:50:07.079 --> 02:50:10.239 be true, and because of that they are able to 3342 02:50:10.319 --> 02:50:13.319 look at the world through such a different lens, and 3343 02:50:13.360 --> 02:50:16.360 from that they are able to find so many other 3344 02:50:16.399 --> 02:50:21.040 sources to bring about so many other conspiracies. So while 3345 02:50:21.079 --> 02:50:23.440 I don't agree with the flatter of conversation, and I 3346 02:50:23.479 --> 02:50:26.200 think these people are out of their fucking minds, I 3347 02:50:26.280 --> 02:50:29.559 give mad respect to them. I give their their flowers, 3348 02:50:29.600 --> 02:50:31.920 their laurels, whatever kind of respect I can give to 3349 02:50:31.959 --> 02:50:33.520 them to show them that I do not hate them, 3350 02:50:33.520 --> 02:50:37.159 Because I don't you see where I'm going with this? 3351 02:50:37.200 --> 02:50:40.239 Here? This is the guy. 3352 02:50:40.440 --> 02:50:45.520 Yeah, well, I mean I think ultimately flatter it'sh to me. 3353 02:50:45.719 --> 02:50:47.799 I can't say for everybody else, but to me, it 3354 02:50:47.840 --> 02:50:50.879 was a stepping stone to discovering that this reality is 3355 02:50:50.920 --> 02:50:52.639 not what we thought it was. So I think that 3356 02:50:52.680 --> 02:50:55.479 if you use it for that, then it's okay. It's 3357 02:50:55.520 --> 02:50:57.799 not it and it shouldn't be. I mean, what do 3358 02:50:57.879 --> 02:51:00.280 I know. I'm just coming from my own perspect I 3359 02:51:00.319 --> 02:51:03.600 don't think that it should be a final destination. As 3360 02:51:03.639 --> 02:51:05.959 far as you believe it to be this and don't 3361 02:51:05.959 --> 02:51:08.040 look any farther now, I think you should continue to 3362 02:51:08.159 --> 02:51:09.040 keep your search on. 3363 02:51:09.360 --> 02:51:11.120 So that's all I got to say about that. 3364 02:51:11.239 --> 02:51:15.319 I feel that I think it's I mean, I find 3365 02:51:15.360 --> 02:51:18.520 it to be interesting that this is the father or 3366 02:51:18.639 --> 02:51:21.520 godfather of flat earth conversation. 3367 02:51:23.440 --> 02:51:23.639 You know. 3368 02:51:23.760 --> 02:51:25.840 I think people are going to believe what they want 3369 02:51:25.879 --> 02:51:29.680 to believe, and I think it's an interesting theory and 3370 02:51:29.920 --> 02:51:32.360 I don't mind hearing about it because there's like multiple 3371 02:51:32.360 --> 02:51:36.360 different types of flat earth conversations and I think all 3372 02:51:36.399 --> 02:51:39.799 of them are you know, at this point, who knows 3373 02:51:39.520 --> 02:51:43.319 what actually is, you know, real or not. I think 3374 02:51:43.319 --> 02:51:49.319 it gave at least credence to finding new new wies 3375 02:51:49.399 --> 02:51:51.280 to ask questions. 3376 02:51:51.840 --> 02:51:54.200 So there is that, and there's people out there still 3377 02:51:54.239 --> 02:51:55.440 to this day that are making. 3378 02:51:55.200 --> 02:52:00.520 Their entire livelihoods off of the theory of the flat Earth. 3379 02:52:00.879 --> 02:52:03.360 And I'm not trying to throw shade at them either 3380 02:52:03.479 --> 02:52:05.559 on a personal level. You know, some of these people 3381 02:52:05.600 --> 02:52:07.399 I know personally. I think they're decent people. 3382 02:52:08.159 --> 02:52:09.920 Some of these people could. 3383 02:52:09.760 --> 02:52:11.799 Very well be in on it, and they know that 3384 02:52:11.799 --> 02:52:16.239 they are peddling bullshit and they're just taking people I 3385 02:52:16.479 --> 02:52:19.319 don't know, and I can't make that assertion from my perspective. 3386 02:52:20.120 --> 02:52:24.159 But yes, the flat earth conversation even and we've talked 3387 02:52:24.159 --> 02:52:27.040 about this too, the very first encyclopedia, if we're gonna 3388 02:52:27.079 --> 02:52:30.680 call it, that was written in seventy AD. He even 3389 02:52:30.760 --> 02:52:33.959 shit on flat earthers in seventy a d. 3390 02:52:34.200 --> 02:52:35.360 Like this has been a known fact. 3391 02:52:35.399 --> 02:52:40.520 Ancient Egypt has hieroglyphic statements being made about how the 3392 02:52:40.559 --> 02:52:43.879 Earth is round. Cuneiform b tablets talk about how the 3393 02:52:43.920 --> 02:52:48.280 Earth is rounds very few scant sources of like whole 3394 02:52:48.280 --> 02:52:50.239 civilizations and cultures that believe that. 3395 02:52:50.360 --> 02:52:52.520 But like your boy Parallax did. 3396 02:52:52.760 --> 02:52:57.120 He leaned more on biblical literalism, as well as the 3397 02:52:57.399 --> 02:53:02.360 disproving of the bourgeoisie academic types to make everybody think, 3398 02:53:02.399 --> 02:53:04.959 you know what, yeah, fuck that smart guy. 3399 02:53:05.040 --> 02:53:08.840 He's hating Jesus. And it's like wait, wait, what fucking what? 3400 02:53:09.559 --> 02:53:13.280 But yes, this is the godfather of the modern Earth 3401 02:53:13.360 --> 02:53:18.120 debate and he was clearly out of his fucking mind. 3402 02:53:18.760 --> 02:53:22.120 But from that has spawned all these other things. 3403 02:53:22.680 --> 02:53:26.000 All this cut to nineteen fifties, a flat Earth society 3404 02:53:26.079 --> 02:53:28.440 was spawned, and it was very, very off the beaten 3405 02:53:28.479 --> 02:53:29.959 path for quite some time. 3406 02:53:30.079 --> 02:53:31.639 Then the Internet became a thing. 3407 02:53:32.079 --> 02:53:35.520 People latched onto it more heavily, and now we have 3408 02:53:36.159 --> 02:53:40.360 certain individuals that believe this to this day. And and 3409 02:53:40.399 --> 02:53:42.760 that's how it goes into the two camps, right. 3410 02:53:42.799 --> 02:53:44.639 There are a lot a lot of people believe in this, 3411 02:53:44.719 --> 02:53:47.680 so a lot of craven different variations of it, which, 3412 02:53:48.399 --> 02:53:51.799 you know what, out of all the things that is happening, cool, 3413 02:53:52.440 --> 02:53:56.280 I mean, why not like I'm doing it doesn't bother 3414 02:53:56.399 --> 02:53:57.040 me at all. 3415 02:53:57.399 --> 02:54:00.239 No, I didn't do this because it bothered me. I said, 3416 02:54:00.280 --> 02:54:02.959 this is actually my favorite conspiracy. But within the flat 3417 02:54:02.959 --> 02:54:05.120 Earth conversation, I've talked about this before, there seems to 3418 02:54:05.159 --> 02:54:07.559 be two camps that form pretty quickly, and there's some 3419 02:54:07.639 --> 02:54:09.719 nuances and there's some like middle ground on this when 3420 02:54:09.719 --> 02:54:11.719 not everybody falls into one of these two camps, but 3421 02:54:11.840 --> 02:54:15.159 the vast majority do. Some fall into the flat earth 3422 02:54:15.239 --> 02:54:19.760 conversation because of their religious dogma, whether that's Christianity, Hinduism, whatever, 3423 02:54:19.799 --> 02:54:23.600 they fall into that category. The other are three questions 3424 02:54:23.600 --> 02:54:25.959 away from acknowledging that Hitler was the good guy in 3425 02:54:26.000 --> 02:54:29.760 World War Two. And I'm just throwing this out. If 3426 02:54:29.799 --> 02:54:33.000 those are your two talking points, then like, clearly we 3427 02:54:33.159 --> 02:54:38.760 have way more conversations about morality and ethics and you know, 3428 02:54:39.079 --> 02:54:41.680 legitimacy of the mind to go before we get to. 3429 02:54:41.639 --> 02:54:42.840 The flat earth conversation. 3430 02:54:43.600 --> 02:54:46.719 But I did think that this was worth bringing up 3431 02:54:46.719 --> 02:54:49.200 as far as us talking about like our favorite conspiracies, 3432 02:54:49.719 --> 02:54:51.840 the flat Earth is clearly my favorite. 3433 02:54:51.840 --> 02:54:52.440 I'm gonna be real. 3434 02:54:53.479 --> 02:54:57.559 I mean, I would take somebody believing in flat Earth 3435 02:54:57.760 --> 02:55:01.399 over somebody believing that they're her voice actually makes a 3436 02:55:01.399 --> 02:55:03.479 difference within politics personally. 3437 02:55:04.680 --> 02:55:06.680 I mean, I feel like the two aren't connected. But 3438 02:55:06.680 --> 02:55:09.120 all right, it's all an illusion, is what I'm trying 3439 02:55:09.159 --> 02:55:09.520 to say. 3440 02:55:09.639 --> 02:55:13.680 Like the the idea that I mean, I don't know. 3441 02:55:13.719 --> 02:55:16.639 That's just my my personal thoughts on politics in general. 3442 02:55:16.680 --> 02:55:19.000 I think that there's a lot of talking heads that 3443 02:55:19.120 --> 02:55:20.959 try and push their narrative. 3444 02:55:21.200 --> 02:55:23.680 I was one of them for the longest time. 3445 02:55:24.000 --> 02:55:28.319 And and it's like talking into the wind, I feel like, 3446 02:55:28.920 --> 02:55:31.319 and you're you're kind of caught up in the illusion 3447 02:55:31.399 --> 02:55:33.760 you think that one guy is is better than the 3448 02:55:33.840 --> 02:55:37.399 other guy. Meanwhile, you know later they're probably going bowling 3449 02:55:37.479 --> 02:55:39.680 and drinking some fucking adrenachrome. 3450 02:55:39.920 --> 02:55:40.319 For sure. 3451 02:55:40.399 --> 02:55:44.479 It's it's it's it's all one big show anyway. Anyway, No, 3452 02:55:44.760 --> 02:55:47.079 I think that that's interesting. I never heard of that 3453 02:55:47.120 --> 02:55:50.079 Parallax character, but it does make a lot of sense 3454 02:55:50.280 --> 02:55:53.719 because a lot of those talking points are exactly how 3455 02:55:54.239 --> 02:55:55.520 a lot of the flat earthers think. 3456 02:55:55.600 --> 02:55:58.719 So good, fine, sir, I felt. So that's all right. 3457 02:55:58.879 --> 02:56:01.760 So we were We're gonna do Raven Lee's. 3458 02:56:01.760 --> 02:56:04.760 Favorite conspiracy as far as the conversation is concerned. But 3459 02:56:05.399 --> 02:56:07.079 some things are going on at her house right now, 3460 02:56:07.120 --> 02:56:08.120 so I guess we're gonna have to. 3461 02:56:08.079 --> 02:56:08.959 Maybe do a part two. 3462 02:56:09.479 --> 02:56:11.959 Who knows, Maybe Raven Lee and I will kind of 3463 02:56:11.959 --> 02:56:14.639 handle this one on our own on the next episode. 3464 02:56:15.040 --> 02:56:18.840 You know, who's to say one way or another. But yeah, bro, 3465 02:56:19.159 --> 02:56:22.000 this is uh, this has been a wild ride thus far. 3466 02:56:22.120 --> 02:56:24.840 One thousand episodes, jonpan One thou. 3467 02:56:24.799 --> 02:56:29.239 Wild dude, and we did like nine hundred of them together, 3468 02:56:29.600 --> 02:56:32.840 So nine hundred episodes. 3469 02:56:32.200 --> 02:56:35.319 Me and you, dude. It's been a long time. 3470 02:56:35.559 --> 02:56:38.799 Learned a lot about the nature of our reality, Learned 3471 02:56:38.799 --> 02:56:41.760 a lot about the nature of politics and war and 3472 02:56:42.079 --> 02:56:45.920 all the crazy conspiracies, whether it be onen, cryptids or aliens, 3473 02:56:45.959 --> 02:56:51.000 and got invited to multiple conferences and amazing, amazing run. 3474 02:56:51.200 --> 02:56:55.239 And I'm very thankful to have had you as a 3475 02:56:55.239 --> 02:56:57.360 as a co pilot, sir. It's been a it's been 3476 02:56:57.360 --> 02:56:58.000 a fun ride. 3477 02:56:58.120 --> 02:57:03.000 Oh likewise, dude, And to the people out there that 3478 02:57:03.079 --> 02:57:05.440 think that there's some sort of bad blood or that 3479 02:57:05.440 --> 02:57:09.719 there's some sort of animosity here, there's not there simply isn't. 3480 02:57:09.959 --> 02:57:11.680 I mean, y'all. And I said this. 3481 02:57:11.760 --> 02:57:13.520 I was on TikTok Live the other day, which is 3482 02:57:13.559 --> 02:57:16.440 a thing I do on occasion now because you know, 3483 02:57:16.639 --> 02:57:20.840 life or whatever is America. Well actually even before that, 3484 02:57:21.000 --> 02:57:22.719 I was trying to I'm starting to try to grow 3485 02:57:22.719 --> 02:57:25.680 the socials and do more things and post things and whatever, 3486 02:57:25.719 --> 02:57:27.760 and I was like, you know what, fuck it may 3487 02:57:27.760 --> 02:57:30.639 be going live on Instagram or live on TikTok will 3488 02:57:30.680 --> 02:57:31.639 help grow these things. 3489 02:57:31.639 --> 02:57:33.159 I don't know that for a fact, but I'm trying 3490 02:57:33.200 --> 02:57:33.840 it out. Whatever. 3491 02:57:34.440 --> 02:57:39.200 I consistently get that question, and I've told them all, like, listen, 3492 02:57:39.799 --> 02:57:42.879 what you've heard on the MIC is about as close 3493 02:57:43.000 --> 02:57:45.079 as you and I have ever gotten to actually having 3494 02:57:45.079 --> 02:57:49.239 an altercation. Yeah, like whatever, even whether it was the 3495 02:57:49.239 --> 02:57:53.280 Emerald Tablet's episode or the Christmas episode, there's been episode 3496 02:57:53.319 --> 02:57:56.040 where you and I were button heads, really fucking hard 3497 02:57:56.559 --> 02:57:59.719 as brothers do. That is the closest that you and 3498 02:57:59.760 --> 02:58:02.840 I have I've ever had to an altercation was documented 3499 02:58:02.879 --> 02:58:03.600 and recorded. 3500 02:58:03.639 --> 02:58:07.719 We didn't edit anything out. Well, we actually did night 3501 02:58:07.760 --> 02:58:11.479 and fight once upon a time. That's true me, So 3502 02:58:11.680 --> 02:58:12.840 there's that. That's true. 3503 02:58:12.959 --> 02:58:14.799 God, I forgot we had to strap up in armor 3504 02:58:14.799 --> 02:58:17.040 one time. That shit is harder than it looks. 3505 02:58:17.280 --> 02:58:17.520 Dude. 3506 02:58:17.600 --> 02:58:19.479 I want to get back into it so bad. I 3507 02:58:19.479 --> 02:58:24.000 have gotten lazy. My cardio has gotten completely trashed. I'm 3508 02:58:24.000 --> 02:58:25.959 hoping twenty twenty six will be the year that I 3509 02:58:26.000 --> 02:58:28.559 start to take control of things, and a portion of 3510 02:58:28.600 --> 02:58:31.399 that is going to a couple of tournaments, maybe taking 3511 02:58:31.399 --> 02:58:33.600 a cage fight. Even if it's just an exhibition fight 3512 02:58:33.680 --> 02:58:36.799 or something. I I gots to get back into it, dude, 3513 02:58:36.840 --> 02:58:37.520 it's killing me. 3514 02:58:37.879 --> 02:58:42.440 But yeah, I feel you that it's definitely very important 3515 02:58:42.520 --> 02:58:45.360 to try to get back into shape. I'm rocking more 3516 02:58:45.440 --> 02:58:49.079 chins than a fucking Chinese phone book right now. Come on, 3517 02:58:49.440 --> 02:58:52.680 and it's and it's quite it's quite wild. So either A, 3518 02:58:52.879 --> 02:58:54.639 I gotta grow my beard back, which. 3519 02:58:54.840 --> 02:58:58.319 I why do you keep shaving it, dude? Because I 3520 02:58:58.360 --> 02:59:00.600 can't do the long beard. It just bother me too much. 3521 02:59:00.639 --> 02:59:02.840 So maybe a little bit of scruffle, just enough to 3522 02:59:02.959 --> 02:59:05.360 hide the chins, you know, just enough to give me 3523 02:59:05.399 --> 02:59:06.680 a jawline or something. 3524 02:59:06.840 --> 02:59:11.040 Just don't do the chin strap beard please that No, that. 3525 02:59:11.000 --> 02:59:14.159 Would make it more obvious that I'm rocking up fucking 3526 02:59:14.200 --> 02:59:15.520 thruptle chins or whatever. 3527 02:59:15.600 --> 02:59:22.120 Dude. Yeah, I'm not doing that. But yeah, I mean 3528 02:59:22.159 --> 02:59:24.440 it's uh yeah, we definitely got to get back in shape. 3529 02:59:24.440 --> 02:59:26.239 I know, I do. I mean I haven't. 3530 02:59:26.600 --> 02:59:28.799 My cardio is shit and I've gained about twenty pounds 3531 02:59:28.799 --> 02:59:30.120 that I didn't need to gain. 3532 02:59:30.040 --> 02:59:32.680 Like that's real shit. But I'm not. I'm not as 3533 02:59:32.760 --> 02:59:34.760 chubby as I once was, that's for damn sure. I 3534 02:59:34.760 --> 02:59:35.079 got up. 3535 02:59:35.120 --> 02:59:36.760 I got up to like two thirty one point, which 3536 02:59:36.760 --> 02:59:39.399 from my frame is I was a little puffy, you know. 3537 02:59:39.479 --> 02:59:42.879 I mean that's also on camera, so yeah. 3538 02:59:42.600 --> 02:59:45.360 That's also OG episodes. Jacob used to be a little 3539 02:59:45.399 --> 02:59:46.399 porky back in the day. 3540 02:59:46.440 --> 02:59:47.079 It was awesome. 3541 02:59:47.280 --> 02:59:50.239 God I was, and then I started dropping away like crazy, 3542 02:59:50.360 --> 02:59:53.319 and now I've got that equilibrium. But now I need 3543 02:59:53.319 --> 02:59:56.239 to like I need to get healthy. It's not about maintaining, 3544 02:59:56.319 --> 02:59:57.799 it's about being healthy. 3545 02:59:57.840 --> 02:59:59.879 But anyway, but yeah. 3546 02:59:59.760 --> 03:00:02.559 Dude, it's it has been such a ride to get 3547 03:00:02.600 --> 03:00:05.840 to this point. We went from a hobby to a 3548 03:00:05.879 --> 03:00:09.280 side hustle, to a main hustle, to a new career 3549 03:00:09.840 --> 03:00:15.079 to a not a split a shift, and I mean 3550 03:00:15.200 --> 03:00:17.799 everything is full tilt. Everything is green lights all the 3551 03:00:17.799 --> 03:00:21.760 way through, and it's it's beautiful. It's insane. Like I 3552 03:00:21.840 --> 03:00:23.920 try explaining to people, dude, I got called for jury 3553 03:00:23.920 --> 03:00:28.200 the other day and which sucked and explaining whenever they 3554 03:00:28.319 --> 03:00:31.079 you know, the judge is asking your name, your marital status, 3555 03:00:31.079 --> 03:00:31.879 how many kids you have? 3556 03:00:32.600 --> 03:00:34.000 Uh, where you employed? Whatever? 3557 03:00:34.879 --> 03:00:38.120 I straight with a straight face, was like, uh, you know, Jacob, 3558 03:00:38.120 --> 03:00:40.479 I'm from Prayerville, got three kids. Bye bye, Bob, I'm 3559 03:00:40.479 --> 03:00:44.159 a professional conspiracy theorist, Like, I'm sorry, what is that? 3560 03:00:44.440 --> 03:00:46.559 Ico? Stay conspiracy? Because fuck him? 3561 03:00:46.600 --> 03:00:49.639 I didn't want jury duty. Good god, No, they're not 3562 03:00:49.639 --> 03:00:52.600 gonna let me be a part of the jury. No, 3563 03:00:53.440 --> 03:00:55.840 And then they started asking questions about how I felt 3564 03:00:55.920 --> 03:00:59.600 about morality and things. They did not like my answers 3565 03:00:59.680 --> 03:01:02.520 what soever, because fuck them, it's so stupid. 3566 03:01:02.760 --> 03:01:04.559 She would have just told them, yeah, Hitler was the 3567 03:01:04.600 --> 03:01:05.040 good guy. 3568 03:01:05.280 --> 03:01:07.920 No, oh my god, no, because I'm the other half 3569 03:01:07.920 --> 03:01:11.000 of my group was not white, and that wouldn't have gone. Well, 3570 03:01:11.040 --> 03:01:12.520 I live in this town, you know. I mean, there's 3571 03:01:12.559 --> 03:01:14.959 a decent chance I'm gonna see some of these people again. Hell, 3572 03:01:15.040 --> 03:01:16.879 I knew a couple other people on the jury with me. 3573 03:01:17.360 --> 03:01:21.079 But like, no, I'm good. I just yeah, well, so 3574 03:01:21.719 --> 03:01:24.159 if somebody walks up to you and slaps you, you 3575 03:01:24.200 --> 03:01:26.239 can you can get them tried for that because you're 3576 03:01:26.280 --> 03:01:28.280 a witness. I'm like, yeah, but it's a he said 3577 03:01:28.360 --> 03:01:30.879 versus she said? At that point, what makes one witness 3578 03:01:30.879 --> 03:01:32.000 more credible than another? 3579 03:01:32.479 --> 03:01:36.719 The judge. I wasn't trying to be combative. I was genuinely. 3580 03:01:36.280 --> 03:01:39.719 Asking, like, are we they're bringing up a witness here? 3581 03:01:39.719 --> 03:01:41.840 And like and if this witness has a felony pass, 3582 03:01:41.879 --> 03:01:44.680 does that matter to you? And I'm like, I mean, no, 3583 03:01:45.000 --> 03:01:47.319 people can change. Just because somebody has spent time in 3584 03:01:47.360 --> 03:01:50.719 jail doesn't mean that they're a non credible witness. But also, like, 3585 03:01:51.399 --> 03:01:54.000 how good is this witness? Was it at night? Were 3586 03:01:54.040 --> 03:01:56.600 they three hundred yards away or were they ten feet away? 3587 03:01:57.040 --> 03:01:59.120 Do they have any stake in this game? Do they 3588 03:01:59.200 --> 03:02:01.280 know the person to know the defendant? Do they know 3589 03:02:01.319 --> 03:02:03.440 the person that was hurt? Do they like there's so 3590 03:02:03.479 --> 03:02:05.680 many nuances to this and the whole time, you saw 3591 03:02:05.719 --> 03:02:08.479 the judge roll his eyes and I'm just like, good, good. 3592 03:02:09.399 --> 03:02:13.120 I think that that would make you a better person 3593 03:02:13.200 --> 03:02:16.239 on the stand then by asking and being inquisitive, That's 3594 03:02:16.239 --> 03:02:16.799 what I would think. 3595 03:02:16.920 --> 03:02:19.600 But that's not what I want this fucking guy up there. 3596 03:02:19.680 --> 03:02:22.040 But that's not what the lawyers want. The lawyers want 3597 03:02:22.159 --> 03:02:24.639 non partial people that are gonna get in and get 3598 03:02:24.680 --> 03:02:28.600 out and of the list they had, no man, that's it. 3599 03:02:28.799 --> 03:02:30.520 They want these people to be yay or nay. 3600 03:02:30.639 --> 03:02:31.000 Period. 3601 03:02:31.040 --> 03:02:33.799 Let's not talk about let's not deliberate for a week 3602 03:02:33.879 --> 03:02:36.360 on this dude's guilty or innocent verdict. 3603 03:02:36.440 --> 03:02:37.600 We need somebody who's gonna get this. 3604 03:02:37.559 --> 03:02:39.920 Wrapped up by this weekend, and I was clearly not 3605 03:02:40.120 --> 03:02:41.760 that guy, which good. 3606 03:02:42.360 --> 03:02:47.399 Meanwhile, you're talking about somebody who potentially or allegedly murdered somebody. 3607 03:02:47.799 --> 03:02:50.840 It's a huge decision. You'd think that you'd want as 3608 03:02:50.879 --> 03:02:53.639 many details as you possibly can, but that's not how 3609 03:02:53.680 --> 03:02:54.360 the system works. 3610 03:02:54.639 --> 03:02:56.600 If you have a fucking witness, then why do you 3611 03:02:56.639 --> 03:02:58.760 need a jury? What is this? 3612 03:02:58.760 --> 03:03:01.440 This should be a sentencing, this is not. And then 3613 03:03:01.680 --> 03:03:04.159 you know, anyway, I'm not gonna talk about it whatever, 3614 03:03:04.239 --> 03:03:07.239 But yeah, I'm just saying whenever I tell people what 3615 03:03:07.319 --> 03:03:08.879 I do for work, they look at me. 3616 03:03:09.200 --> 03:03:11.079 Half of them look at me like I'm crazy. 3617 03:03:11.520 --> 03:03:13.680 The other half of me look at me like I 3618 03:03:13.879 --> 03:03:16.760 like they they're jealous, almost like what no way, And 3619 03:03:16.799 --> 03:03:19.360 I'm like, dude, I I wish I could explain how 3620 03:03:19.360 --> 03:03:21.799 I got to this point, but here we are, you know, 3621 03:03:22.440 --> 03:03:24.760 And to be honest, this wouldn't have happened if it 3622 03:03:24.799 --> 03:03:25.239 wasn't for you. 3623 03:03:25.319 --> 03:03:25.600 Dude. 3624 03:03:26.920 --> 03:03:28.959 Well, dude, I don't think that it wouldn't have It 3625 03:03:29.000 --> 03:03:31.959 would have gotten to the point where it is without 3626 03:03:32.239 --> 03:03:35.959 both of our minds coming together. And it's never it's 3627 03:03:36.000 --> 03:03:39.239 never been an echo chamber it's it's always been you know, 3628 03:03:39.360 --> 03:03:42.280 my mind versus your mind on a lot of things. 3629 03:03:42.520 --> 03:03:45.959 And sometimes that gets a little annoying. And sometimes you know, 3630 03:03:46.120 --> 03:03:50.600 tempers flair or whatever. That's okay, that's hum that's our 3631 03:03:50.719 --> 03:03:54.200 humanness is coming out right. Like that is the level 3632 03:03:54.319 --> 03:03:57.239 of close that we are, you know, we're we're able 3633 03:03:57.360 --> 03:03:59.680 to be vulnerable with our thoughts and our feelings in 3634 03:03:59.719 --> 03:04:04.120 ours for over nine hundred fucking episodes together. And and 3635 03:04:04.200 --> 03:04:06.079 I think that that's what people liked. I think that 3636 03:04:06.120 --> 03:04:10.159 they liked the realness. They liked, you know, just it 3637 03:04:10.239 --> 03:04:13.399 wasn't fake. And there are a lot of fakesters out 3638 03:04:13.399 --> 03:04:15.959 there today and a lot of people that are not 3639 03:04:17.159 --> 03:04:20.920 necessarily doing it for the right reasons. And I felt 3640 03:04:20.959 --> 03:04:23.040 like we always came about it with you know, for 3641 03:04:23.079 --> 03:04:26.000 the right reasons. We were genuinely curious. We did so 3642 03:04:26.319 --> 03:04:29.399 much research. I mean, yeah, we've done nine hundred episodes, 3643 03:04:29.440 --> 03:04:32.319 probably on average anywhere between two and three hours each. 3644 03:04:32.600 --> 03:04:34.079 Initially I think we're doing one. 3645 03:04:33.959 --> 03:04:36.280 Hour shows, but let's just say that it was on 3646 03:04:36.360 --> 03:04:39.879 average two hours per show. That's two hours of us 3647 03:04:40.000 --> 03:04:43.079 talking about the notes that probably took us six to 3648 03:04:43.200 --> 03:04:46.680 eight to gather for that show. So it's a lot 3649 03:04:46.719 --> 03:04:50.760 of time that we've devoted to this show, and I'm 3650 03:04:50.799 --> 03:04:54.600 just happy that many other people out there that listen 3651 03:04:54.680 --> 03:04:57.440 to the show have appreciated it enough to follow us 3652 03:04:57.479 --> 03:04:58.559 along on this journey. 3653 03:04:58.760 --> 03:04:59.280 Oh agreed. 3654 03:05:00.079 --> 03:05:03.040 And again, I know that I might be biased here, 3655 03:05:03.079 --> 03:05:05.360 but I do believe that Raven Lee is an excellent 3656 03:05:05.639 --> 03:05:09.760 new host. She's an excellent new talking point and a 3657 03:05:09.799 --> 03:05:13.799 new perspective to what you and I started and ran 3658 03:05:13.920 --> 03:05:16.200 with for so long. I don't think the show is 3659 03:05:16.239 --> 03:05:18.200 taking a step down by any means. I think it's 3660 03:05:18.239 --> 03:05:19.600 more or less been a lateral move. 3661 03:05:20.120 --> 03:05:22.680 Has she been pushing back on anything that you say? 3662 03:05:22.879 --> 03:05:24.000 Some some things? 3663 03:05:24.079 --> 03:05:25.920 Yes, some things though, but she and I also have 3664 03:05:26.040 --> 03:05:28.959 a lot of very similar vantage points on certain things. 3665 03:05:29.440 --> 03:05:31.719 We have very different vantage points on other things. She 3666 03:05:31.879 --> 03:05:35.239 is big with the environment. I am big with heavy industry, 3667 03:05:35.319 --> 03:05:39.319 and sometimes those opinions conflict a little bit. I'm big 3668 03:05:39.360 --> 03:05:42.239 with my Christianity. She is not a Christian by any 3669 03:05:42.239 --> 03:05:45.879 stretch of the imagination. Sometimes those points conflict. But we 3670 03:05:46.600 --> 03:05:49.959 very rarely get into a religious debate. We very rarely 3671 03:05:49.959 --> 03:05:52.760 get into a political debate. It's more or less like, 3672 03:05:52.840 --> 03:05:54.959 let's just talk it out. Let's let me hear what 3673 03:05:55.000 --> 03:05:56.879 you're talking about. Let me see if maybe I can 3674 03:05:57.239 --> 03:05:58.920 shift my view a little bit. Let's see if I 3675 03:05:58.920 --> 03:06:01.399 could shift your view a little bit bit. And again, 3676 03:06:01.520 --> 03:06:04.360 I don't think that the show has gone down as 3677 03:06:04.440 --> 03:06:06.959 far as quality goes, and I don't think it's I 3678 03:06:07.040 --> 03:06:09.239 think it's a higher caliber show, But that doesn't mean 3679 03:06:09.280 --> 03:06:10.159 a better show. 3680 03:06:10.440 --> 03:06:12.879 If anything, it's a lateral move. You see what I'm saying. 3681 03:06:12.920 --> 03:06:15.520 It's now I disagree. I think that it's gotten far 3682 03:06:15.559 --> 03:06:19.879 and above much better. She She's a great addition to 3683 03:06:19.920 --> 03:06:23.840 the show. And you know, I think that after a while, 3684 03:06:24.040 --> 03:06:29.200 things will things naturally tend to plateau no matter what 3685 03:06:29.319 --> 03:06:31.879 it is like, it doesn't matter. Think about like your 3686 03:06:31.920 --> 03:06:34.680 favorite TV show of all time at one point was 3687 03:06:34.959 --> 03:06:38.200 the Alpine of all fucking TV shows out there. But 3688 03:06:38.239 --> 03:06:40.639 it reached that point. And I feel like we reached 3689 03:06:40.639 --> 03:06:42.399 our point, and not to say that we couldn't have 3690 03:06:42.479 --> 03:06:46.399 reached multiple points and exceeded expectations and you know, not 3691 03:06:46.559 --> 03:06:50.680 been stunted by any perceived plateaus or anything like that. 3692 03:06:50.920 --> 03:06:53.600 But I think that what Raven has done. 3693 03:06:53.479 --> 03:06:57.600 To the show is that she has blasted through that 3694 03:06:57.600 --> 03:07:00.360 that firmament that glass ceiling and has taken to the 3695 03:07:00.399 --> 03:07:02.719 next level. I think that she's a fantastic addition to 3696 03:07:02.760 --> 03:07:06.520 the show. And you guys going back and forth actually 3697 03:07:06.520 --> 03:07:09.840 remind me a lot of us going back and forth, 3698 03:07:09.920 --> 03:07:13.319 you know, just very inquisitive, very curious by nature. Yeah, 3699 03:07:13.360 --> 03:07:15.680 and that's what makes for a good show, I think. 3700 03:07:16.079 --> 03:07:17.719 I agree. I agree. 3701 03:07:18.159 --> 03:07:21.079 So Yeah, although Ravenlee could not finish out this episode 3702 03:07:21.120 --> 03:07:23.120 with us, she's got some stuff going on at her 3703 03:07:23.120 --> 03:07:25.479 house at this moment, and so it's all good. 3704 03:07:25.559 --> 03:07:26.920 Jonathan and I can wrap it up. 3705 03:07:27.280 --> 03:07:29.719 I want to go ahead and give the shout out 3706 03:07:29.799 --> 03:07:32.399 to anybody who has maybe not been a part of 3707 03:07:32.440 --> 03:07:35.559 this conversation for the last thousand episodes but would like 3708 03:07:35.600 --> 03:07:37.559 to be a part of all the moving forward and 3709 03:07:37.600 --> 03:07:43.879 get these shows absolutely. Then the best place and only 3710 03:07:43.920 --> 03:07:45.040 place to go to get that would be to go 3711 03:07:45.079 --> 03:07:48.280 to patreon dot com slash Cultic Conspiracy Podcast. Got my 3712 03:07:48.520 --> 03:07:51.200 words are getting weird now. When you sign up for 3713 03:07:51.680 --> 03:07:54.559 cult to Conspiracy over at Patreon, what you will get 3714 03:07:54.719 --> 03:07:57.000 is all these shows completely commercial for you will get 3715 03:07:57.040 --> 03:07:58.840 them a couple of days in advance, if not sometimes 3716 03:07:58.879 --> 03:07:59.879 even a week in advance. 3717 03:08:00.360 --> 03:08:03.600 You will also get so many other possibilities. You get 3718 03:08:03.600 --> 03:08:05.680 to see all the other affiliates on our patrearon. 3719 03:08:05.719 --> 03:08:07.920 You get to see some exclusive behind the scenes footage 3720 03:08:07.920 --> 03:08:08.959 of things that we post from. 3721 03:08:08.879 --> 03:08:09.479 Time to time. 3722 03:08:09.920 --> 03:08:11.920 But also that's only for the low tier, that's that 3723 03:08:12.000 --> 03:08:14.520 five dollars a month tier. If you go to that 3724 03:08:14.559 --> 03:08:16.239 third eye all the way open tier, you'll also get 3725 03:08:16.280 --> 03:08:18.040 to join us every Tuesday night for our cult Member 3726 03:08:18.120 --> 03:08:20.200 Live event that we host every Tuesday night at nine 3727 03:08:20.200 --> 03:08:20.799 pm Central. 3728 03:08:21.040 --> 03:08:22.280 You will also get to join. 3729 03:08:22.159 --> 03:08:24.360 Raven Lee for her book club that she is doing 3730 03:08:24.440 --> 03:08:28.520 every Sunday night. If I'm not mistaken starting, I think 3731 03:08:28.840 --> 03:08:30.559 this Sunday coming up will be the. 3732 03:08:30.520 --> 03:08:32.920 First book club meeting that they are doing every month. 3733 03:08:32.920 --> 03:08:35.879 They're going to be doing a new book, conspiratorial, some religious, 3734 03:08:35.920 --> 03:08:38.280 some science, some all the stuff, all the things you 3735 03:08:38.360 --> 03:08:39.760 want to be a part of that. Come check us 3736 03:08:39.799 --> 03:08:42.159 out patreon dot com, slash cult to conspiracy podcasts. 3737 03:08:42.239 --> 03:08:43.920 And of course, if you go for that top. 3738 03:08:43.719 --> 03:08:46.639 Tier, that Maniac tier, you will not only get all 3739 03:08:46.680 --> 03:08:48.239 the things we've already listed, but you will get some 3740 03:08:48.319 --> 03:08:51.079 exclusive merch sent to you as a massive thank you 3741 03:08:51.120 --> 03:08:53.639 for supporting us in that way, And the merch is 3742 03:08:53.680 --> 03:08:57.000 being made as we speak, So everybody wants to be 3743 03:08:57.040 --> 03:08:58.920 a part of that tier, please go check it out now. 3744 03:08:59.559 --> 03:09:03.239 But Jonathan, please give yourself all the shameless plugs for 3745 03:09:03.440 --> 03:09:04.040 your project. 3746 03:09:04.120 --> 03:09:04.360 Brother. 3747 03:09:05.079 --> 03:09:07.600 Oh yeah, dude, it has become way more than a project. 3748 03:09:07.680 --> 03:09:11.600 It has become a lifestyle and the people are finding 3749 03:09:11.639 --> 03:09:15.280 it out there, and it's been it's been growing exponentially, 3750 03:09:15.799 --> 03:09:19.680 actually a lot here lately with just the sheer amount 3751 03:09:19.719 --> 03:09:22.239 of awesome guests that we've gotten on the show. I 3752 03:09:22.319 --> 03:09:26.239 mentioned Santo's Bonacci. We've had Dana Kippl, We've had the 3753 03:09:26.280 --> 03:09:30.760 amazing Mark his name is the mirror on social media 3754 03:09:30.799 --> 03:09:34.479 and whatnot, and a bunch of really really great people 3755 03:09:34.520 --> 03:09:38.159 out there that are searching for the truth about the 3756 03:09:38.239 --> 03:09:41.760 nature of reality and all of the magic that it encompasses. 3757 03:09:42.000 --> 03:09:45.120 So if you're interested, if you are you know, kind 3758 03:09:45.120 --> 03:09:49.840 of open minded as far as your spiritual beliefs out there, 3759 03:09:50.200 --> 03:09:52.520 then we welcome you over there. I promise you. We 3760 03:09:52.639 --> 03:09:57.280 are not calling on demons. We've had, not gonna lie. 3761 03:09:57.360 --> 03:10:00.440 We've had a couple of you know, people the mess 3762 03:10:00.479 --> 03:10:03.440 around with demons and then Satanism and stuff like that. 3763 03:10:03.639 --> 03:10:05.479 The only reason we have them, though, is to try 3764 03:10:05.479 --> 03:10:07.920 and garner a better understanding. 3765 03:10:07.559 --> 03:10:10.760 You know, about how it works and just trying to 3766 03:10:10.879 --> 03:10:11.559 understand it. 3767 03:10:11.639 --> 03:10:15.159 Never would I ever get myself involved in blood letting 3768 03:10:15.200 --> 03:10:17.840 or any of that other shit. It's just a genuine curiosity, 3769 03:10:17.879 --> 03:10:22.360 that's all. And but yeah, we we have a bunch 3770 03:10:22.360 --> 03:10:24.360 of wild stuff. 3771 03:10:24.040 --> 03:10:24.799 Going on over there. 3772 03:10:24.879 --> 03:10:29.920 Psychics magicians, which is esotericists. The list goes on and on, 3773 03:10:30.040 --> 03:10:32.040 and that is not even including the shows that me 3774 03:10:32.079 --> 03:10:33.920 and Sean like to bring to the table. And as 3775 03:10:33.959 --> 03:10:36.120 I mentioned earlier, our next show is going to be 3776 03:10:36.200 --> 03:10:40.879 on breaking down the esotericism within all of your old 3777 03:10:41.280 --> 03:10:44.559 favorite fairy tales out there. So it's just it's just 3778 03:10:44.600 --> 03:10:47.840 gotten pretty wild and ramped up here a lot lately. 3779 03:10:47.920 --> 03:10:49.840 So if you're interested in that kind of stuff, come 3780 03:10:49.879 --> 03:10:53.120 and check us out over at Metamistics Podcast, where we 3781 03:10:53.159 --> 03:10:56.760 also have one episode per week that goes up on YouTube. 3782 03:10:56.959 --> 03:10:59.200 We only put one up there because I played the 3783 03:10:59.200 --> 03:11:01.600 YouTube game with the cult before got taken down four 3784 03:11:01.639 --> 03:11:04.360 times and then they decided to completely just ban our 3785 03:11:04.399 --> 03:11:07.200 ip address. So I'm living in Texas now. It's a 3786 03:11:07.239 --> 03:11:10.760 clean slate. We're trying it. And so if you're interested 3787 03:11:10.760 --> 03:11:12.239 in maybe you just want to dip your tone in 3788 03:11:12.280 --> 03:11:13.360 the water go and check. 3789 03:11:13.159 --> 03:11:14.680 It out over on YouTube. 3790 03:11:14.920 --> 03:11:17.840 Otherwise, you can find it on Spotify or Apple wherever 3791 03:11:17.879 --> 03:11:19.639 you get your podcasts, and you'll be able to listen 3792 03:11:19.680 --> 03:11:21.239 to every episode over there, not. 3793 03:11:21.280 --> 03:11:21.959 Just one a week. 3794 03:11:23.479 --> 03:11:25.159 If you really want to be able to support us 3795 03:11:25.559 --> 03:11:28.440 in getting the shows days in advance completely commercial free 3796 03:11:28.479 --> 03:11:31.719 and joining us live every Wednesday night for the wonder 3797 03:11:31.799 --> 03:11:34.719 Weizday episodes, then you'll be able to come over to 3798 03:11:34.719 --> 03:11:37.239 Patreon dot com slash metamistics. That link is down in 3799 03:11:37.239 --> 03:11:39.239 the show notes of every single show that we do, 3800 03:11:39.840 --> 03:11:41.920 and it's the best way to be able to support 3801 03:11:41.920 --> 03:11:44.920 the show, so we really appreciate that. Otherwise, come check 3802 03:11:45.000 --> 03:11:48.239 us out on TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, all the different socials. 3803 03:11:48.280 --> 03:11:50.079 You'll be able to see all the short clips that 3804 03:11:50.120 --> 03:11:53.479 we do from the show. And but yeah, other than that, dude, 3805 03:11:53.520 --> 03:11:55.879 it's been a fucking fun ride. And I don't think 3806 03:11:56.200 --> 03:11:58.040 anybody's getting off the train anytime soon. 3807 03:11:58.239 --> 03:12:00.680 Oh god, no, If anything, we're putting our foot on 3808 03:12:00.719 --> 03:12:03.680 the gas even harder, harder now than ever before. 3809 03:12:03.719 --> 03:12:08.079 I think it's it's God, it's so much. Throw a 3810 03:12:08.079 --> 03:12:09.079 little more coal. 3811 03:12:08.879 --> 03:12:12.799 Into the furnace, sir, absolutely, And with that also I 3812 03:12:12.840 --> 03:12:14.840 should go ahead and give myself the shameless plug the 3813 03:12:14.879 --> 03:12:18.120 Cajun Night. We only release one episode a week, and 3814 03:12:18.120 --> 03:12:21.280 we release it on the Cult to Conspiracy on Thursdays, 3815 03:12:21.280 --> 03:12:23.840 but we shoot it every Wednesday night at nine pm Central. 3816 03:12:23.840 --> 03:12:24.959 If you want to be a part of that, go 3817 03:12:25.079 --> 03:12:27.600 to the link in the description below to the Cajun 3818 03:12:27.680 --> 03:12:29.159 Night at Patreon dot com. 3819 03:12:29.440 --> 03:12:30.559 Only one tier for injury. 3820 03:12:30.639 --> 03:12:34.280 We talk more about the geopolitical, talks about what's. 3821 03:12:34.120 --> 03:12:35.319 Going on in our day and age. 3822 03:12:35.360 --> 03:12:37.799 Every week there's new shit that's popping off, so there's 3823 03:12:37.840 --> 03:12:40.520 so many new things to talk about. It's becoming its 3824 03:12:40.600 --> 03:12:43.719 own small little subreddit, if you will, of the Cult 3825 03:12:43.719 --> 03:12:44.479 to Conspiracy. 3826 03:12:44.879 --> 03:12:45.799 I thoroughly enjoy it. 3827 03:12:45.840 --> 03:12:48.360 For anybody who's out there listening that wants to support 3828 03:12:48.360 --> 03:12:50.200 me in that regard, come check me out Patreon dot 3829 03:12:50.239 --> 03:12:54.719 com slash Cajun Night. And with all this being said, yeah, Jonathan, 3830 03:12:54.920 --> 03:12:57.040 there's no one else I would have rather built a 3831 03:12:57.120 --> 03:13:00.920 business with and gotten it to this level where we 3832 03:13:01.000 --> 03:13:05.440 have side projects, we have new guests, we're meeting new people, 3833 03:13:05.479 --> 03:13:07.719 we're growing these things in and of themselves. 3834 03:13:07.879 --> 03:13:11.079 It is such it's been such a wild ride, and 3835 03:13:11.120 --> 03:13:15.239 it's like you said, it's not going any slower anytime soon. 3836 03:13:15.319 --> 03:13:18.079 We're ramping up production on all fronts. You are with 3837 03:13:18.159 --> 03:13:20.559 your things. I am with my things, Raven is with 3838 03:13:20.600 --> 03:13:24.079 her things. It's just we shittn't and getting a dude, 3839 03:13:24.399 --> 03:13:27.000 it's amazing. All for the love of the game. That's 3840 03:13:27.040 --> 03:13:31.040 what it's all about, dude, absolutely, absolutely, speaking of love 3841 03:13:31.079 --> 03:13:33.120 of the game. If anybody out there like to get 3842 03:13:33.159 --> 03:13:35.079 their start in the buying, selling, and trading of gold 3843 03:13:35.120 --> 03:13:37.559 and silver, bullyon, then go to link of the description 3844 03:13:37.639 --> 03:13:39.360 to coecsilver dot com. 3845 03:13:39.399 --> 03:13:42.120 Link to that description in blah blah blah. 3846 03:13:41.840 --> 03:13:45.159 Link to the boy I can't speak, link to that 3847 03:13:45.360 --> 03:13:47.959 in this description below. When you fill out your information 3848 03:13:48.000 --> 03:13:49.559 on Homeboy, Wayne Clark will be the one to reach 3849 03:13:49.559 --> 03:13:50.000 out to you. 3850 03:13:50.600 --> 03:13:52.959 Look, talk to your financial advisor, talk to your CPA. 3851 03:13:52.719 --> 03:13:54.799 And ask them if they believe that investing in precious 3852 03:13:54.840 --> 03:13:57.200 metals is a good investment. I promise you they're going 3853 03:13:57.239 --> 03:13:58.760 to tell you that at least a portion of your 3854 03:13:58.799 --> 03:14:01.799 retirement portfolio needs to be invested in precious metals. Best 3855 03:14:01.799 --> 03:14:03.639 place to get your start, like I said before, I 3856 03:14:03.639 --> 03:14:05.680 had the whole tongue tie situation, is to go to 3857 03:14:05.799 --> 03:14:09.360 Coecsilver dot com once again link in the description below, 3858 03:14:09.920 --> 03:14:11.920 but another way to chee support the show, good cult members, 3859 03:14:11.920 --> 03:14:13.879 and let everybody know what you thought about this one 3860 03:14:14.040 --> 03:14:18.559 thou wow episode one thousandth episode of the. 3861 03:14:18.600 --> 03:14:23.559 CO one F two. Please hit the five stars, hit 3862 03:14:23.600 --> 03:14:24.760 the shirts that like to describe the. 3863 03:14:24.760 --> 03:14:27.120 Comments, leave a postling review of shares, a defensive parmentfley 3864 03:14:27.120 --> 03:14:27.920 shares where everywhere. 3865 03:14:27.920 --> 03:14:28.479 Here's the deal. 3866 03:14:28.680 --> 03:14:31.719 The more activity the algorithmsease across all of our listening platforms, 3867 03:14:31.840 --> 03:14:33.879 the more we get promoted to more potential listeners. 3868 03:14:33.600 --> 03:14:35.760 Who could then become potential cult members like the rest 3869 03:14:35.799 --> 03:14:37.840 of you. Fine ladies and gentlemen, why are you already 3870 03:14:37.840 --> 03:14:39.280 go check out menimistics shot. 3871 03:14:39.200 --> 03:14:40.600 Until the show and get them the same lever respect 3872 03:14:40.600 --> 03:14:42.280 over there with the five star views on the positivity 3873 03:14:42.280 --> 03:14:43.479 in the comments, Come. 3874 03:14:43.360 --> 03:14:45.440 Check out the KJE to night and come join each 3875 03:14:45.479 --> 03:14:48.360 of us for individual Patreon lives we host every Wednesday 3876 03:14:48.399 --> 03:14:51.000 night nine pm Central. Links to those during the description 3877 03:14:51.120 --> 03:14:53.200 as well, and we thank you for everybody's already gone 3878 03:14:53.239 --> 03:14:53.600 and done so. 3879 03:14:54.399 --> 03:14:57.319 And with all of this being said, this has been 3880 03:14:57.680 --> 03:15:00.280 an amazing one thousand. 3881 03:15:00.079 --> 03:15:04.840 Episodes of the Cups of Conspiracy. I am the Cage 3882 03:15:04.840 --> 03:15:08.120 to night. I am the menimistic and there is 3883 03:15:08.280 --> 03:15:11.159 One very important, extremely vital piece of information me You 3884 03:15:11.280 --> 03:15:50.360 learned that as cern as neumly possible, red of that 3885 03:15:50.600 --> 03:15:50.760 are