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of the show yesterday, third hour, final segment, I mentioned
the story of how Sydney Sweeney the actor actress? Can
we say actress?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Are we going back to actress? Did that happen? I
lost track because there was this thing where it's like, no,
everybody's just an actor now, and so you could use
the word actress anyway. She's she's in movies and that
she apparently is not just attractive, but she is also
a Nazi. And this is apparently now day too many
of the national conversation about what American Eagles ad campaign
with Sidney Sweeney saying she has good genes j E
A N S but also g E N E S.
Get it. Dad pun right that this is quote Nazi propaganda.
This is straight out of the Third Reich. Okay, So
Charles C. W. Cook, And I'm gonna tie this to
a larger political thing going on here. But like you've heard,
the politics is downstream of the culture, and this fight
erupted online and it's not even a fight, Like it's
like mugging a dead guy. It's not a fight. Okay,
this is it. It's just dumb assery, which I actually
should right, I should play this again because buzon no
dumb massery. We are in it, and the politics is
downstream of this kind of dumb assery. So Charles C. W. Cook,
he's a writer over at National Review. He's originally from Britain,
but he then became an American citizen, and he is
a national treasure. I always say that I love reading
his stuff, even if I have to look up about
half a dozen words in the dictionary when I read
his pieces. He says, Sweeney wore jeans and showed off
her figure and drove a vintage car and did other
Sydney Sweeney esque things in front of the cameras. No
sooner had the spot debuted than it had been deemed
provocative and offensive and found guilty of sparking debate. Okay,
the question that was presented by Sweeney's New American Eagle
commercial was whether or not the Nazis were good.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Indeed, the national conversation that has been bolted to this
transient exhibition of denim has been about eugenics as conceived
within the Third Reich. Eugenics which, by the way, promulgated
by Democrats. In North Carolina, we have a rich history
of the eugenics and it was the Republicans when they
got into office, under the leadership of then House Speaker
Tom Tillis, that did the formal apology to all of
the victims of the eugenics, and I think they even
set up a compensation fund for those people that were
so Abusedenics was the idea that you could breed out
the bad people or bad traits. And for the eugenicists
that were pushing this, a Lah Margaret Sanger, founder of
Planned Parenthood, which was part of this eugenics idea, was
that you have the undesirables kill their babies and this
way they don't reproduce and you only get you know,
the production of quote unquote elites, right, the good kinds
of people, right. That was that was at the heart
of this idea. Obviously completely discredited and deplorable, and not
in like a Trump supporter kind of way, but like
actually deplorable. And it's one of the reasons why the
Nazis were very interested in the work that the eugenicists
were doing under you know, this progressive banner in America. Now,
you may not have known any of that, maybe you
knew all of it, maybe you knew some of it
or whatever. But apparently American Eagle and Sydney Sweeney they
knew this. And see they are trying to put this
back into the American blood stream. That's what the accusation is,
that this is somehow a dog whistle to the Nazis
aka anybody to the right of Elizabeth Warren. And as
I mentioned yesterday, the thing about dog whistles is only
the dogs hear them. Only the dogs hear them. And
so when you jump onto your TikTok page and you
record yourself and your vehicle doing the hand thing, you
know where you pinch your thumb to your forefingers, what
that birdhand I think is what it's called right you
know that. Yeah, see, okay, I got the I got
the h the nod from Bernie, who is the designated
gen z represented Oh millennial, Sorry, never mind, we can't
trust anything, he said. No, I'm kidding. He's the designated millennial,
but he speaks for anybody younger than millennials too. I'm
gonna lump that in there anyway. So when you do
those videos and you are admitting that you have heard
some dog whistle, that means that means you are the
dog that they are, that they are gearing that too. Okay.
So I just saw the ad and thought, oh, look
they put that that hot actor into another into a commercial.
It was sort of the reaction I had same reaction. Really,
remember when Paris Hilton, I think it was, did the
Carl's Burger's ad where she's like in a bikini on
a on a hot rod vehicle and eating a big,
messy hamburger. That was probably before most of your time,
but like that was That's how I saw this ad.
So this national conversation swiftly after the ad was released.
Cook writes a handful of people on the Internet and
by the way, I'm reading this portion because he totally
nails the way these things develop. The timeline here. Okay, So,
after the ad is released, a handful of people on
the internet began complaining that American Eagle had released a
white supremacist commercial, and, as is often done, the self
licking ice cream cone was swung immediately into action. Some
people were talking about it online, which meant that the
press was able to write about it as if it's
a real story, which meant that the opinion outlets were
able to get involved with a clear conscience, which meant
that the press was able to write about it some more,
which meant that other people were guaranteed to talk about
it online, and before too long we had one of
those perplexing news cycles that start with a single mind
numbing complaint from the most ridiculous people in the country
and end with daily updates on whether any of the
figures who are passively involved in the circus have yet
quote responded to the allegations. End quote. That's the timeline,
That's the way these things always unfold. Right, you have
some randos on TikTok or Instagram or Twitter, not even
Facebook anymore, but okay, maybe every now and again Facebook, Right,
but you have some people say some utterly stupid things.
Media then picks it up because this is what media
does now. We just sit around and scroll through the
social media feeds for anything that could be a story.
I literally saw a segment on a news station, a
local news station in Atlanta, major TV market, and they
have a segment where they have a reporter quote unquote,
stand in front of a screen and literally read to
you tweets which you can see behind her on the screen,
like that's a news story. Some people are saying some
stuff and I'm going to tell you what they're saying.
It was like the people that were like, I got
to tell you what Donald Trump tweeted, No, you don't.
I could just read his tweets. I don't need you
to do a whole news story on something Donald Trump tweeted.
I could just read what he tweeted. So this is
the cycle. Then you know, the news covers it, then
more people are aware of it, and then you get
more people commenting on it, and then everybody the opinion
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Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 1: I don't know who needs to hear this, but when
you put attractive women in your ad, that's a marketing
tactic in order to convince the viewer that they want
your product. Men and women. Women look at the end
and they'll think subconsciously, maybe they say, oh, if I
drink that soda like Cindy Crawford did, I'll be like
Cindy Crawford. Men think, oh, if that's what chicks like
to drink that, I'm gonna drink that pepsi too. I'm
gonna buy the American Eagle jeans. There's a let me
bounce over here, Aren McIntyre, he's a columnist at The Blaze.
He says, it's interesting how mutilated men pretending to be
women in Sports Illustrated was just fine, but one white
lady in jeans is the return of the Third Reich. Yeah,
that's that's exactly right. Sidney Sweeney's initials. By the way,
I'm not sure you've heard of this, but her initials
are SS. What do you think it means? Charles C. W.
Cook goes on to say, if there's anything subliminal going on,
it's that American Eagle wants consumers to think that if
they buy the product that their featured star is wearing,
they will become like her. Right beyond that, there's nothing
of consequence to interrogate here. So why is this annoying?
He says, Partly because it's dumb, and yes, we need
less stupidity rather than more. Partly because once again the
media have indulged the silliest people in America rather than
ignored them as they deserve. And partly actually mostly really
because this incident illustrates the preposterous double standard that our
would be arbiters of taste routinely apply to quotidian uses
of the English language. When the phrase at hand is
let's say, from the river to the sea, or how
about globalize the Intifada or defund the police, we are
treated to exquisite journeys into nuance and context, alongside detailed
dissections of how words are translated from one language to another.
In those cases, we are assured that nobody who says
any of those things actually means them, even when their
utterance is attached to a clear declaration of intent. But
when American Eagle makes an advertisement for denim, all hell
breaks loose. A pretty blonde girl says she has good
genes in a commercial for genes, and the presumptions instantly invert, right,
they flip. And here's the thing about all of the
protestations about this ad that are coming from the left,
that's where this stuff is coming from. None of them
have come close to answering the only question that matters here,
which is why why would American Eagle do anything of
this sort? Why would Sidney Sweeney consent to help if
that was the intent? And who, upon watching the spot
would react to it by reaching for their copy of
mind comf Well, obviously anybody who has a copy of
mine comp maybe right, you have to be, as he says,
a total bloody moron, And that's correct, that is absolutely correct.
There is this corruption of the language, and then there
is this weaponization of this type of thing, right to
make what is white black and black white. It's to
invert and the same people that are now telling us
that this ad is somehow a dog whistle for eugenics
or Nazism or something, right, they are the same people
that tell me I don't understand the meaning of globalize
the Intifada, that that's the real problem, my misinterpretation of
when I hear jihadists want espouse killing me and all
the Jews and eradicating the state of Israel right now,
I just don't understand the nuance and complexity of the argument.
When I say defund the police, I don't really mean
defund them, I mean reform. Well, okay, why I just
say reform the police. Well, we already made the T shirts.
Like I mean, there's no explanation for why when people
say the things they say, And then I get some
sort of an interpreter in the media that says you
don't really understand what they're talking about. I'm pretty sure
I do. I'm just listening to them as I would you,
pretty straightforward, I would say Chris Selly on Twitter, he's
a columnist for the National Post. He says, this whole
Sidney Sweeney thing speaks to a theory that I have.
And here's the theory people's sense the era of maximum
crazy might be coming to an end, so they're cramming
in as much crazy as they can before that, which
that's an optimistic That is an optimistic way of thinking
about it. I may try to adopt this way of
thinking on this stuff. I don't know. Let me check
the uh, let me check the text line here. Stan says, Yeah,
Liberals say Sidney Sweeney and American Eagle or Nazis. But
they also say from the River to the Sea. That's
exactly right, exactly the point that Cook made. This is
a South Carolina number. Hitler actually gave awards to some
well known progressives for their great work. More importantly, I
thought I was the only one who noticed the bird
fingers phenomena. That's when they're when they're doing this thing
where they're like they're like pinching their fingers together, like
all four fingers to the thumb. It's like a little bird.
It's like you're doing like a shadow puppet of a
talking hand, you know whatever, Like you're in a puppet anyway.
And they do this thing to the camera like I
need you to understand this thing that I'm saying. And
they're just like bird tapping there. Yeah, this is a
local number. Pete. Such bottomless dumb assery. Democrats constantly casting
their guilt upon others. This time they're squealing about racism
and eugenics when they're when these are their own creations, right, abortion,
number one cause of death for African American children is
the number one votainer for them in every election. Thank
you for your use of the votainer word. Thank you,
m M and stances. If you put Sydney Sweeney's initials backwards,
it's suddenly satanic. Oh no, app is on repeat for
some reason. I have heard there's problems with the streaming
app so oh on Odyssey. Yeah, I'm not sure what
has been going on with some of the streaming platforms
in the last few days, but but yeah, there are
there are issues across different platforms. Oh, here's another one.
Jessica Simpson jumping in the time machine. Scroll back twenty
years to when movie star Jessica Simpson came out with
her line of jeans at Belks. She had just starred
in the Dukes of Hazard movie. I never thought of
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columnist a RedState dot com Welcome, how are you today?
Speaker 2: Hey, Pete. I'm doing wonderful. How are you guys?
Speaker 1: I'm doing all right. I'm doing all right. You got
a couple of pieces up at Red State I wanted
to chat with you about. Let me start with the
Democrat brand. Uh, it is so bad panic among Capitol
Hill Democrats after release of devastating new pull. Okay, so
you write in this piece about the quote free fall
that the Democrat Party is in right now, You've got
several quotes from various Democrat officials, and it all seems
to be stemming from poll after poll after poll that
shows people don't like them as a party brand so much.
And you yeah, so the latest one is the Wall
Street Journal, Right, the.
Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal came out with a poll recently peaked,
and it was kind of fascinating because you know, there's
been this, you know, coordinated campaign among the media and
Democrats to bring down you know, Trump and the Republicans especially,
you know, the closes we get to the point twenty
six mid terms. But the problem is is that even
though the public does have concerns about some parts of
Trump's agenda and some parts of the Congressional Republicans agenda,
they still don't trust Democrats. And it's even on the
issues where they have concerns over the Republican agenda, they
still trust Republicans more than Democrats by a pretty substantial number.
To resolve issues like the economic issues and that sort
of thing. Foreign policy matters. They still overwhelmingly trust Trump
and the Republicans in Congress more than they trust Democrats.
And this may be to what led Ken Martin, the
DNC chairman, to describe the party as being at quote
rock bottom. I mean, when the chair of your party
is basically admitting that, and you know that there's a problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, rock bottom. You've got a quote from John Anzelone
who is a Democrat polster, who says the brand is
so bad that they don't have the credibility to be
a critic of Trump or the Republican Party. And to
your point about the numbers, you've got the quote in here,
here's just one. By seventeen points. Voters disapprove of Trump's
handling of tariffs, so he's underwater by seventeen points on tariffs.
But Republicans are trusted more than Democrats by seven points
on that matter. So, however bad Trump is in his
approval numbers, the Democrats are worse, which is amazing. And
part of the problem is I think that the Democrats
repeatedly say that it's it's their inability to message correctly.
They're not breaking through. It's just that people don't know
what our message is and what we stand for. It's
not the policies. They would agree with us on all
of that stuff, it's just the messaging. So what do
you think of that argument?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the thing is is Sarah Hole message
seems to be we hate Trump. I mean, and you can't.
I think we've talked about that in our own elections.
With four feete Republicans, you can't just be the you know,
the other guy's bad. You've got to talk about why
you're you're good, supposedly, and they're not doing that. You know,
the only thing they talk about is how you know
Trump is the next Hitler and you know the Republicans
are trying to steal your right to vote and all
this other stuff, and there's no real substantive discussion on
the issues. It's just orange man bad, Republicans bad. That
that's the only agenda that they have, and that doesn't
really sell well with people. And the orange man bad
narrative definitely doesn't sell anymore. Mean, if it did, Trump
never would have gotten reelected in twenty twenty four. So
that ship is sailed. And because that's not working for
Democrats anymore, they're just they're lost, they are completely lost.
Speaker 1: Ben Dominic, who is an editor at the Spectator, he
laid out the Democrats platform as America sucks, the economy sucks,
cops are Nazis, Ice is Nazis, and Sidney Sweeney is
a super Nazi. So there, that seems to be what
they're running with right now, which I look. I hope
that they continue right down this path. It'll make it
a lot easier for Republicans to beat them in the midterms.
And speaking of the midterms, we now know Roy Cooper
officially announced his run for the US Senate seat Michael Wattley,
the RNC chairman, former North Carolina GOP chairman. He's expected
to announce, thought it was this week. He'll be uh
running as a Republican obviously, and maybe there will be
a primary there. I don't think Cooper is going to
get a primary. I think Wiley Nickel, right didn't he
didn't he drop out immediately?
Speaker 2: As of today he and he officially announced that he
was suspending and he has thrown his endorsements to Cooper.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how many times did he announce that he's withdrawing,
because if he like, if he asked to match every
time that he every time he announced, because he had
like three announcements and all right, so I don't know,
are two of them still operable or not? All right?
So what's your what's your what's your read on the
on the race right now as it stands?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it makes sense that Democrats was the
DNC were said to heavily recruited Cooper to run, and
Cooper was probably already considering it anyway before the recruitments
part started. I think Democrats think they have a real
shot because this state, you know, the the demographics here
in the landscape is ever evolving and ever things. And
Cooper won two state wide elections here. He as far
as the governor's race and he also won the state
wide race for attorney general as well. Cooper is a
lifetime politician, and he is, you know, fairly well known.
They feel like that, you know, his brand is is
fairly well known, and he's been dissected and voters still
approved him even after all that. So they really feel
like they have a shot that North Carolina will be
one of the four steeps that they hope to flip
in twenty twenty six. The problem is is that Pete,
as you and I know and many of our fellow
conservatives know, is that in twenty twenty there was not
a lot of scrutiny of Cooper and in twenty sixteen,
the media rode the HB two anti HB two waves
and dragged Cooper over that finished line. So there was
not a lot of media scrutiny of Cooper in either
election side all that he's won for the governor's race.
So I think this time around it's going to be different.
Mistakes are higher, and Republicans are a lot more loaded
for bear now when it comes to super than they
were in twenty twenty and twenty sixteen, So I think
it's going to be a different ballgame here. Obviously, this
is probably going to be one of the most expensive.
It's not the most expensive Senate race in the country
as the Tillis and Cunningham race was in twenty twenty. Yeah,
twenty twenty. So yeah, it's kind of an issue and
Whatley for those who don't know. In twenty twenty two,
North Carolina had a red wave. It was a mid
term election year, and it was the election year that
people thought that it was going to be a red
wave nationally for Republicans. It wasn't, but we did have
a red wave in twenty twenty two, and that's when
North caropin. That's when Michael Watley was the chairman of
the NCUGOP. You can you read into that, which you will,
but you know, when you have a red wave in
your state in contrast to what happens in the rest
of the country, I think that says something about your
leadership ability.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree, all right, and real quick, I
spent a lot of time on this yesterday, and I'll
circle back later in the program. But the veto rama
that occurred in the General Assembly, which one of those, Well,
were you surprised at any of those override votes that succeeded?
Speaker 2: Well, I wasn't, pete only because the ones that they
seemingly picked yesterday to override were the ones where they
knew that they had previously had Democrats support in the
House at least one or two, if not more. So
I think that they, you know, they don't take these
shots without thinking, you know, ahead of time, you know,
are we going to have a reasonable chance of bringing
one or two people over, one or two Democrats over?
And it's kind of interesting. There were fourteen vetos that
josh Sein has done this year and they were able
to override eight of them. And the funny thing about
it is is that they were able to do it
with Democrats, right, and that you know, Democrats are really
up set right now to veto overrides, but they faily
have themselves of lightning because they couldn't get everybody in
their party in line. It's really kind of funny when
you think about it, which is.
Speaker 1: Actually I mean, it kind of speaks to a failure
of Josh Stein to not be able to count those votes.
And know, I mean like Nasif Majeed out of Charlotte
and Carla Cunningham out of Charlotte as well, they both
broke with their parties or their party to vote with
the Republicans on different bills. But that's all they needed
was one vote. And for Stein to not be you know,
working them like Roy Cooper worked these Democrat lawmakers in
the past. I think it speaks to the power that
Cooper had and the machine that he ran and the
punishment that he needed out to other Democrats that did
not fall in line versus Stein's approach, and that might
not redound to his benefit.
Speaker 2: Right exactly. And you know the funny thing is if
I'm not mistaken on the bill defined man and woman
in Saint Law, I'm not mistaken Magee did not vote
for that bill initially. Oh, and somebody could correct me
on that, but I'm thinking he did not vote for
that bill initially, but when it came to the VITA override,
he changed his mind. Like I said, I kind of
I looked at over last night. I was writing about
it last night, and yeah, somebody could could check me
on that, But I think Magine actually kind of was
a legitimate.
Speaker 1: Slip well, and that that would indicate something I've been
I've been saying since Cooper announced, which is that the
HB two issue, the whole vibe has shifted on that
issue from when he used it to be Pat McCrory
by the skin of his teeth, right, Like I forget.
It was like it was like a couple thousand votes
he won by it was. It was very very close.
McCrory was challenging all sorts of ballots and stuff, but
he ended up conceding. But that HB two issue, it
is not as potent benefit for Cooper any longer. If anything,
it might be to his detriment.
Speaker 2: Now I think it's going to be the detriment in
more ways than one. Pet And I know you remember
this as well. In addition to opposing HB to Roy
Cooper actually was huddling with corporate entities in this country
who were calling for boycotts but North Carolina around the
time the bill passed, and Mark Bennioff from Salesforce to
the of Salesforce. He was kind of leading the charge
to get people to boycott our state over the bill,
and the Wall Street Journal reported that Roy Cooper and
Mark Bennioff met around the same time. So Roy Cooper
went through pretty desperate lengths to beat Pat McCrory on
this issue, and I think he did it by trying
to sabotage his own resident, the people of his own state.
He tried to sabotage them, and to some extent it worked.
I mean in the end, when we all, when we
all look at the numbers and everything, the boycott really
didn't amount to a hill of beans. But it was
the intent, to me in this case that matters. Because
he wanted to be elected governor, he actually huddled with
a CEO that was openly calling for boycotts of this state,
the state that he wanted to lead. I think that
tells us a lot about Roy Cooper. Well beyond what
his opposition ah to be two fella.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, he would punish his own constituents if it
meant personal political game. Absolutely right, Yeah, Stacey, I appreciate
you making time for us as always, Stacy Matthews. You
can read her work over at RedState dot com.
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just happened to coincide with a big New York Times
article on what Priorities USA is doing to help Democrats win.
I'm sure it's completely co incidental that they had the
press release and the New York Times article out at
the same time, unless, of course, they told the New
York Times what they were going to do, so the
Times acted as a stenographer for them. But they quote
then the New York Times story highlighting what Priorities USA
is doing to ditch outdated tactics and experiment with new
and bold tactics to rebuild trust, re engage voters, and
retool how democrats run ads online. WHOA what is this
online ad thing that you're talking about? What is that?
The story highlights Priorities usa newest pilot programs focusing on
content and targeting with digital advertising. It's another brand new
term hmmm. One is called nest. It gathers data from
sources like podcast transcripts and online comments to try to
make heads more timely and appealing. Another is focused on
building new audiences of potential voters to target on YouTube
and outgrowth of discovering that watchers of politically write coded
content were more influenced by democratic messaging than any other cohort.
So they're going to start advertising on the Rogan podcast,
I guess. The third aims to use search tools on
social media platforms like TikTok and Instagram to reach younger voters.
They go on to say that there is a concern
that too many of the decisions have been made by
party officials on high relying too heavily on polling to
guide their choices on policy positions, messaging, and advertising, while
ignoring other important signals that could help influence voters. Danielle Butterfield,
the executive director of Priorities USA, says, we need to
rethink things. The same elitism that is abundant in our
party exists in the way we make decisions like whether
your sitting president will have a primary challenge or whether
he will remain president or who the replacement of him
will be after the coup, like that sort of thing. Now,
one of the test sites North Carolina, along with Virginia
and Pennsylvania. The three programs will be tested right here.
Looking forward to that. All right, that'll do it for
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