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a mountain inside your chats, it's been a while. Just

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wait in subcusted looks into the far. You can clench

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your fists, strike a smark, deny the nest beneath your soul.

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You're in petrol loud.

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Speaker 2: Let them here.

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Speaker 1: Every answers in your step into the offend the powers

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in your heads. I don't know whether to call this

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the first installment of Bill Lightman or not. We've done

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some other ones, but I just said to my guest Gina,

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and I'm going to try the last thing. Pietro Poli

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is it Pietro Poli that way, yeah, because I think

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probably go Petropoly, But I don't think that's right Italian?

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And what would that mean? Do do really Italian for me? Pietro? Wait,

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say it again.

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Speaker 2: That's beautiful, but we will not do that. Peteli, I'll

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settle for what you said.

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Speaker 1: Have you been back to Italy?

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Speaker 2: We just got back.

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Speaker 1: You did. Where'd you go?

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Speaker 2: We went to Sorrento. We spent a lot of time

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in Sorrento. We went to Rome. I mean we that's

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kind of the two places where.

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Speaker 1: You still have family in Italy.

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Speaker 2: I do. My family is from Sicily, all from Sicily,

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and I have a cousin that I'm in contact with

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all the time.

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Speaker 1: So you could have dual citizenship.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, because they have pulled that. Who

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did Italy didly? Italy is making it very difficult now,

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so all these people that have spent all these people

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that have spent thousands of dollars are like really upset now,

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really low. Yeah, but now my daughter has talked about it.

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She studied over there last year. You're supposed to meet

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her there last year and the timing wasn't working, And

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I'm so glad we waited a year because now my

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whole family got to come and we had the best time.

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But my next trip will be Sicily because I have

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to explore it. That's like where I feel so rooted.

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Speaker 1: You do, I do? Okay? And how many times you've

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been back there?

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Speaker 2: Off, I haven't, you haven't, Okay, this was my first

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time there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think we're going to be there a lot.

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Speaker 1: I hear great things about Italy. My brother studying in

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England backpack that summer through Europe went down and got

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into like a whole I think he got into a

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mask with the pope and room and yeah, it was

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just like to be in the audience and I somebody

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said come back, we'll give you a ticket and whatever

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it was. But yeah, it's very interesting. I'll properly introduce you.

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You are a level three reiki healer.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: In addition to that, you have certifications as a crystal

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reiki master and teacher.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I it. Yeah, I actually just wrote an ebook

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for it. You did, so, yeah for it, like an

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introduction to crystals, just to give a little bit of

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a background and the basics. Because I have run into

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so many people that say I love crystal so much

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and they buy them, but they don't know what to

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do with them. They don't know how to how do

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I use them? How do I incorporate them into my

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daily life?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: So I just wrote it. It's very simple. It's like

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eighteen pages and you can keep it as a file

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on your computer. I printed it out and it's beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Where do you get it?

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Speaker 2: I printed out at Staples.

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Speaker 1: No, but if I wanted to, like I keep someone

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buy it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's on my website. It's like on the first thing.

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I have a link for it.

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Speaker 1: What's the website for people to.

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Speaker 2: Find www dot MBS Reikiwellness dot com.

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Speaker 1: Okay, NBS Reki Wellness dot com. Okay, and you can

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find that there. Then I are you also training to

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be already? Are quantum Reki?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So I did like a level one Okay, and

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I use it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I use that a lot for like physical illness.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I'm still like trying to figure out where I'm

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going next. It's I've been kind of in kind of

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in thought like I need more more, I need more,

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I need to go even deeper, like I just call

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it energy healing. I call it it's so it's so hardly.

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I feel like I'm in a box with a term

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reiki because I do so okay, more than okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm really glad you're saying that, because okay.

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Speaker 2: Now, once you start, yeah, if you're really doing this,

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you're just you're you're outside of that reiki box like that.

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That scratches the surface. For me.

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Speaker 1: My experience with with reiki is my mom, and my

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mom did do reiki on me and I for whatever reason,

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like she said to me, boy, your head isn't as

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busy as I thought, and I go, no, I got

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a little maybe I'm dumb, I got an empty head.

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But I meditate a lot and I can kind of

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keep things. But when she was doing it, I started

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to think there's some trauma in my life as a child,

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and I started to think Mom's taking all the bad

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stuff way. Gina. I started crying. Gina, I started crying.

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I couldn't I couldn't stop. I went for fifteen minutes.

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My mother finished up. I was going to drive back

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to Rochester. She lives in Rhinebeck, New York, down by Uh,

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what's the place down there? There's a oh, I'm going

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to forget it. Well, I used to drive by all

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the time and it's where a lot of healing things

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go on. We do No, it's not Lily Dale, and

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I'll think of it. And then she I had to sit.

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She had me just sit. I wasn't even boohooing. It

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was just tears that wasn't even it was just flowing

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out of me. It wouldn't stop. It just wouldn't stop.

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Speaker 2: Like I know how many people say that on my table,

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I'm idea sobbing, like I don't even know why I'm crying. Release.

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. So I guess my first question to you

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with with reiki, I guess we should find out more

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what was your path to reiki yourself because a lot

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of people, I think most of us, if you came

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from a rooted Italian family and I came from a

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very rooted Irish family, there's one thing in common, the

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Catholic Church, right understand what I'm saying. Yeah, And not

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that this is anything against that, because I don't think so.

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I think it's something that should be in conjunction with.

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but like a witch in a way. And I and

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that's not true at all. I don't believe that in

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my soul at all. But what was your introduction to that?

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Speaker 2: I don't even I don't even know how to answer

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the question, because the path I have always, even as

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a kid, I have always had encounters, yeah, with spirit?

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Speaker 1: Okay, what what does that mean when you say encounters

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Speaker 2: Things happen I knew as a young because I was

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always attracted to things like to read and understand and

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know about it. I'll give you an example. I might

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have been in third or fourth grade and I was

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down in my basement. I live in a very old house,

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the house I grew up in very old, and we

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had a chalkboard down there. I used to go down

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and play school. And there was one evening I was

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down there and I'm writing on the chalkboard and all

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of a sudden, right in front of me. Now this

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it's your imagination. It was so clear cut. A face

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of a man hanging upside down came right in front

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of me. Scared me, like I literally dropped everything and

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I ran upstairs. Okay, I would see things. I could

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sense things. I used to hear when I was like,

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in the middle of the night, I would hear almost

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like a party going on down in my kitchen. And

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parents were down there. But it sounded like a party.

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Speaker 1: Was happening, and I heard happy yes, yes.

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Speaker 2: And I heard chairs moving, and it would be like

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one o'clock in the morning. And then because right outside

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of my bedroom, my parents were right and I'm like,

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bet are in bed. And I was young. I used

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to have all kinds of things, and I.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever express this to your parents?

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Speaker 2: I used to say little things, but.

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Speaker 1: It's it was dismissed. You know.

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Speaker 2: You know, our imaginations run wild. Sometimes give her back

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to bed, that's what they did.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so you know there's times if I walk

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in a room and I start like I would feel

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really uncomfortable, cold, and I would feel like something's there,

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and you know, so you know, now I'm in school

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we go to the library everybody's looking for, you know,

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Charlotte's Web and Wizard of Us. I'm looking for ghost books. Okay.

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I knew there was something more, and I really don't

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know how I was brought to reiki. And I think

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was it's this this like blog that I read sometimes

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and it was titled you don't find Reiki, Reiki finds you.

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And I felt like it was a bridge to things

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and to me understanding who I am and acknowledging it.

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I was always very quiet, like my family kind they

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everybody know, like as long as I know. Yeah, but

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yet they would always like to talk to me about it.

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Speaker 1: Surely would so privately with anybody else around.

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Speaker 2: And the interesting thing is, like I always remember the

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stories of my mom growing up, and she talks about

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it more and more. So I'm going to backtrack for

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one second. You're wondering how my immediately immediate family and

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my mom's ninety five. She's still alive. She's like a

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fifty year old. Ok Oh, yeah, just her ninety five.

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She loves what I do, and she is like, I

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think there's a place in heaven for her. She's going

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to be patronized as a Saint cras to. You know,

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she's so dedicated to her faith and I am too.

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That's the thing. I am deeply rooted in my faith

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and this has made me grow stronger in my faith. Okay,

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and my faith. I do feel there's a separation of

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faith in church too, like I you know, I'm not

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happy about some of the things that have happened, but

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it doesn't shake my faith, like my faith is always there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So my mom always used to tell us stories. You know,

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she grew up, they grew up very poor and they

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didn't have they didn't have money to go to a doctor.

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And she used to say, in America or in America,

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that's when we came here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, is your mom first generation?

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Speaker 2: She's first generation? Yeah. So she used to talk about

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how they used to go to the witch doctor and

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it so now that I know what this is, I said, Mom,

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you know that's an energy healer, right, And they you know.

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not looked at. They weren't looked upon, especially way back then.

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she took her kids to. And she said, Gina, she said,

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she says, your grandmother has taken some of us, like

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when we were very, very sick, she says, and I'm

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telling you, we turned around in twenty four hours. She goes,

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there's something to it. Yeah, And I said, there is,

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so you know, I I'm over it with whoever sees me,

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is you want to look at me, go ahead, look

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at me as much. I'm so.

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry to say that term because I didn't

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need people. I say the term because I was thinking

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of like something that the church make. Here here's I

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have a somewhat of a problem with religion, and I

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had it as a young child when I figured out

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that Henry the eighth just wanted to sleep with Queen

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Anne or whoever was next in his list, but he

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couldn't get his a divorce because he was in a

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Catholic church or whatever it was. So he switched the

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country to Protestantism, right, and so now England and the

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United Kingdom go Protestant. Northern Ireland, Southern Ireland, where my

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family's friend stays Catholic. My parents I was raised Catholic

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till seven and then my father, one of the only

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people I know who has ever done this, wrote a

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letter of resignation to the Catholic Church with philosophical reasons

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as to why always in my house the rule was

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you had to go to church. I worked in radio

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at nineteen. My shift was midnight to six in a

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rock station, so midnight Saturday and to six o'clock Sunday morning,

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I still had to get up and go to church.

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That was the rule. It was a Protestant to not go.

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Speaker 2: To church in my family anyway, right.

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Speaker 1: And so the Protestant though my mom her dad would

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not talk to her for a year because she became

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Northern Ireland. And that's when I went, this is all bullshit.

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what are these rules that you're putting in place, and

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is it about controlling people? And is there a bigger energy?

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some extent and manipulated in a way to sort of

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control people I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we and we don't know. And that's the thing,

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you know. I like to honor people where they're at, right.

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believe what they want. And at the end of the day,

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you have this this being. Yes, okay, there is a bigger, massive,

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more bigger power than us. Okay, And then you have

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all kinds of roads to get there. I would say,

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there's not one road to anywhere. There's many roads to

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get to the same place. And so to get to

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the same place, okay, Judaism, Islam, Catholicism, we just call

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it something different, and we have a different belief in

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how we get there. And I honor that for people,

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like if that's what everybody was raised. Everybody has a

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different story growing up, so you know, my experiences are

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not the same as somebody else's.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting because as you say that is you know,

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people go on, don't believe in anything, and I go, yeah,

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but I didn't get up to I didn't get up

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and turn on the sun today, and I didn't pull

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a zip line out and rotate the earth. There's something

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greater here. One of the things that I was in

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absolute awe of Andy, and some of my friends even

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poked fun at me. Was the eclipse. I loved the

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eclipse even though it was a cloudy day here because

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I did nothing for this, and I went, Wow, there's

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something so beyond us, so much bigger than us. And

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I think that you need to tap into that to

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a certain degree. And that's where reiki probably, you know,

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with the energy healing, and I'll talk about reiki, but

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you can talk about just energy healing. I do wonder

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with your relationship with both pain physical and emotional for

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you personally, how has reiki kind of helped Does that

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help you kind of navigate those things?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? I I don't have a story of trauma or

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anything like that, but you don't have to. Everybody we

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have all and there were things that I knew I

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needed to shed, okay, and I have. I am very

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like I can tell when I'm not grounded, I'm all

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over the place. Anxiety sets in. Like I'm a human.

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I still have things that happen, but now I know

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how to use my energy to disperse it and get

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rid of it and to dispel it. And it works,

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you know, and it's not psychosomatic. There is a change

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in the feeling when when you feel that like something

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has been lifted from you and you know, I here's

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the thing, like, oh the religion thing, And it doesn't

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make me crazy anymore because I know who I am.

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And I'm also going to say, if somebody knows who

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I am and they're going to put that on me,

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then you don't know me, okay, I because I know

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what I do. I can't even put the two in

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the same room. It has one has nothing to do

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with the other. There's no worshiping. You know, people think, oh,

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do you worship crystal? No, like it's so it's so ignorant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what are some of the misconceptions, Oh you worship crystals?

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Speaker 2: You think that you can heal people? You know what,

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I'm very upfront. I'm a conduit. Yes, I might know

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how to teach you how to maneuver your energy and

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how to manipulate your energy in a positive way. Yeah, okay,

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But the person that's on the table, they're the ones

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that are doing the work. Because people that are there's

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people that come in that just they know they need

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a rebalancing and that's it. But then there's people that

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need longer term work, the people that really want to

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see changes, that want to change the way their direction

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of their life is going. They're doing all the work.

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I'm doing nothing. They are healing themselves, okay, by shifting

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their energy. They don't know how to do it right,

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and that's what I'm there for. But I also send

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them home with homework. And I said, it's the action

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that's going to keep taking you to the next level.

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I can't do the action for them.

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Speaker 1: Is there? Would it be? I'll ask you this, This

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is kind of a far out there sort of statement,

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but I think that we are so much more than

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these physical bodies. Yes, there are those that I've talked

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to and I revect I'm going to say it wrong,

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but the ancient Indian medicine water healing right, and the

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doctor deep Sin and doctor Deeple say, it's amazing that

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two percent of you fits and is all this is

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only two percent of who you are. That there's a

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bigger thing. And then there are those that say that

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you choose to come here, and that you have signed

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a contract somewhere with the universe or whatever, and that

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the purpose of living your life on planet Earth is

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to learn to manipulate energy. Now, I don't know. I

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don't know. I mean I read a lot of stuff,

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and I listen to a lot of people, and I

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always take my own thing where you're talking about shedding

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things and shedding your own energy and stuff. I find

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myself because just like that, right, I can see myself

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get a little scattered and I'm all over the place

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and what's gonna happen and I have to just settle.

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I can get my heart rate down at about forty

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five beats a minute. I've had the EKG go off

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with an alarm because it was so low. I can

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like just but I it's a thing where you can

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just go okay, and you realize that you're okay, and

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it's here. I don't know what's happening in the world.

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I went to Buffalo Bill's training camp. They are grounding

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the players. They're having the players take off their socks

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and shoes and walk on the grass barefoot. They're grounding them.

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I don't know if anybody else's noticing that or not.

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But if you go to Buffalo Bill's training camp, or

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if you watch any of these watch hard knocks, I'm

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sure there'll be something the physical trainers are having the

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players walk. Why because it's grounding and that everything we've

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sort of been I don't know if you agree with

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this or not, but the way we've been trained to live,

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grind it out, work real hard. I'm not saying that

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those aren't gonna get you there. Like you said, there's

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many paths, right, but there's easier paths, yes, right. That

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you need a four wheel drive for the grind it out,

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you might just need front wheel drive for the more

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energetic path. And the manipulation of the energy and rising

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to a higher frequency, which is all things I believe

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reiki helps you do.

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Speaker 2: It does, and that's that's it. In a nutshell, your

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your go. It helps you to rise to a higher

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consciousness so that you can go within because all of

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our answers are within. We have all of the answers, right, Yeah,

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And it does. I've always had the spiritual connection. I

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can't speak for someone that's never had it and then

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they developed it. I've always had it, and it has

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gotten stronger and I'm still, you know, leveling up. You know,

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people are coming to me, if people are ever coming

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to me thinking, you know, oh, I want to get

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like a saying no, I'm not a psychic. Yeah, I am,

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just I get the messages that people need to hear.

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You might come to a session and get a million messages.

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You might come to the next one and get nothing.

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I don't look for things. I let it come and

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it comes the way it's supposed to. And you know,

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recently in my sessions now I'm starting to get names

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and you know.

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Speaker 1: So there's definitely when you're with people.

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Speaker 2: Starting to level up a little bit. But like I can't.

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I'm not somebody that can walk in a room and start,

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you know, getting messages from spirit. I am. That's not

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me now I can walk in a room and start

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getting messages about things. I try to stay away from that,

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like I try to block it.

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Speaker 1: May I ask or do you not want to mention

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what that would be? Is it bad? Like if you

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walk it.

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Speaker 2: Around nothing it's never it's never bad. It's just I

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know when something's going I can sense sometimes when something's

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going on with somebody. It happened a few months back

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and I came home and I said, I made a comment.

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I can't say specifically what it was, And my kids

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are like, Mom, like, where are you getting that? From

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and I says, I don't know, my sister's waiting. See,

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And a couple of months.

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Speaker 1: Later, really, wow, like remember you said that?

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Speaker 2: And I said yeah, they're like you were right. I said, yeah,

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I know, I was. So I try not to read

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people like I and I don't. I don't intentionally walk

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into a place with friends or family and try to read.

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But sometimes, you know, I can't stop what's coming in,

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and I'm just like, that's not my business.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Like, that's not my business. It's not for me to

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worry about.

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Speaker 1: No, But you're you're would you say you're almost empathic

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in a way that you can feel people, I'm yeahthic.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, as a kid, I was emotional as a kid.

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In fact, second grade was traumatic for me. I hated

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my teacher. She hated me, and I felt it. She

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did not like me. Wow. And it took my parents

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to go and they came home and they're like, I

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think you're right. She My mother actually told me, she's like,

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I can understand what you're but she didn't understand. I

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saw my second grade teacher as an ogre. I saw

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something wow that I could never get out of my mind.

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And I felt something from her that made me cry

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every single day. I did not want to be around her,

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Like honestly, it was a bad energy. As an adult

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looking back knowing what I felt that it was a

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very bad energy that I felt from her. I didn't

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want to be around her. It was the worst year

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of my life.

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Speaker 1: Really, second grade and.

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Speaker 2: I never cried before. I never cried like I just

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like I would miss my mom. I was, you know,

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I was kids hatched to you know, all right, But

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that's that's the second grade was a very different story

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for me. I saw something and every time I would

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see her face like I would get a flash of

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something else.

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Speaker 1: Really, yeah, there are those that will say, and I

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I always wonder because we we talk about evil in

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the world and evil energy, and I don't know, but

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there was always that very simple and I think it

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was Thomas Aquinas, the simple philosophy of the being that

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is me, the being that is the tree. But there

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is no evil because everything comes from source God. It's

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just a privation of good, which then like it starts

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to spoil. I would have so and they go lower

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frequency things. But then there are people who will tell

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you those lower frequency things can attach to you, or

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00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:41,680
there are people that have died and they maybe quickly

474
00:26:41,799 --> 00:26:43,960
and didn't realize they're dead, and they're looking for a

475
00:26:44,039 --> 00:26:47,160
human form and so they attach themselves to you. It's

476
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,400
it's strange and you say this stuff to people and

477
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,319
they'll look at you like you got three heads.

478
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: I think it's very real.

479
00:26:55,319 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why you're here.

480
00:26:59,319 --> 00:27:03,279
Speaker 2: And I was working on someone one time, and I like,

481
00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:08,160
I get uncomfortable with that stuff because like, I just

482
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,440
like to work in the light. I don't like dealing

483
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,960
with anything dark. Like if somebody told me, if they said,

484
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,640
I want to make an appointment, I feel like I've

485
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,200
got something, I would not see them.

486
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: Okay, I was just going to ask you, and I've.

487
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 2: Never had to refuse, but I always like to know

488
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:32,599
why they're coming in because I just I have a

489
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,400
I it's not it's not my specialty, it's not my area,

490
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,279
and they need to see somebody who is well versed

491
00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:44,000
in that. It's just not my thing. And I don't

492
00:27:44,039 --> 00:27:47,200
ever want to bring anything home, right. Yeah, I'm very

493
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,359
protective of my my space, and if I get a

494
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,920
weird feeling about somebody, I also listen to that because

495
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,200
I feel super connected and I feel very protected good.

496
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,839
I feel very protect it all the time. So I

497
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,559
hope that always says and there's plenty of people that

498
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,200
know how to deal with that kind of thing. And

499
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,680
I think that my fear of it would kind of

500
00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:16,000
like invite it more to me. We're someone who doesn't

501
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,440
have fear, because fear is a that's like a magnet for.

502
00:28:20,279 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: Yes, everything everything negative.

503
00:28:23,799 --> 00:28:26,319
Speaker 2: So because of my fear of it, I think I'm

504
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,799
just not a good person for it. I like uplifting people,

505
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,920
and you know, and thank God for people because there

506
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,039
are people that have those attachments and I think that

507
00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:38,440
they can reak havoc and I'm thankful that there's people

508
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,119
that know how to work on them to help them

509
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:40,680
out of it.

510
00:28:41,079 --> 00:28:44,279
Speaker 1: Right. Sure, it is a weird thing. As you're saying that,

511
00:28:44,319 --> 00:28:47,920
I often I would be more along your line. I'm

512
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,039
looking for the light. Yes, I noticed this week I'd

513
00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:56,440
never turned my TV on, didn't turn it out. I don't.

514
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,640
But here's the thing, is, like I all I watch

515
00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:04,119
is you. And I canceled whatever I had because I

516
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,799
got ESPN Plus through my phone. I haven't set it

517
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,720
up on the TV yet. I haven't even looked at it.

518
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,000
It's been like you know, and I've had the month

519
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,319
of July was a little chaotic for me, and so

520
00:29:13,559 --> 00:29:17,000
I just kind of coming down and I go, I

521
00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:21,119
think there's so much you just we get too much

522
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:27,400
information today, and I really think like simple things of

523
00:29:28,039 --> 00:29:30,480
taking a walk and putting the phone down, go out

524
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,319
in nature. You know, there's I mean there. I think now,

525
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:37,319
maybe it was during the panel that you and I did.

526
00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:41,160
I thought I heard somebody say in Australia they're making it.

527
00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:46,519
They're calling it like nature deprivation syndrome or something. I

528
00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:49,799
know it sounds ridiculous, right, but they're telling you go

529
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,039
take a walk in the woods. You tell me, and

530
00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:55,359
it's like put on some classical music and just go,

531
00:29:55,559 --> 00:29:58,200
or put on something that's soft and and go. All

532
00:29:58,279 --> 00:30:00,799
this stuff that's coming at you, even if it's just

533
00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:06,440
silly tmzs. We are so hyper connected. I get concerned

534
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,000
about like my fifteen year old son. It is non

535
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,599
stop with the phone, to the point where I think

536
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,200
often you're not fully present with me, because I know

537
00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:22,240
you have three forms of communication going on that I'm

538
00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:25,960
not even aware of. And I think that way, maybe

539
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,359
I'm wrong but I think that way, and I go, boy,

540
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,680
I'm not sure how good or bad it is. Is

541
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,839
this part of evolution of mankind? I don't know.

542
00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 2: I don't know where it's going to lead. Honestly. Yeah,

543
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,640
it's we are bombarded and then and then there's like

544
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,359
the second part of it is all the information we're getting,

545
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,200
is it even true?

546
00:30:44,519 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: Right?

547
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 2: You know?

548
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: Exactly?

549
00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: Then you have to decipher and then people are fighting

550
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,640
like it's exhausted it is.

551
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,759
Speaker 1: And that's where I go, why don't we just you know,

552
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,720
try to create, but create from the energy and create

553
00:30:57,759 --> 00:31:01,400
from the what the positive and the light as you

554
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,960
speak of. Yeah, because I do think like with the

555
00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:09,519
energy healing that you do, would you say, let's say

556
00:31:09,519 --> 00:31:11,880
somebody came to you, should they be coming on a

557
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,079
regular basis? And I say this as we do so

558
00:31:16,279 --> 00:31:21,000
much physical therapy, right, we would get a prescription and

559
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,279
we would go and rehab the ankle, rehab the whatever.

560
00:31:25,079 --> 00:31:28,440
And I just wonder with reiki, should it be looked

561
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,680
at or or energy healing if that's more looked at

562
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,039
somewhat the same way?

563
00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:38,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, it should it should be because yeah, so there's

564
00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:41,279
people who understand it and are like you know I'm

565
00:31:41,319 --> 00:31:43,440
looking for an energy healer. I just need to get

566
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,720
a rebalancing for that. Yeah, I can come in, you know,

567
00:31:46,759 --> 00:31:49,480
whenever you feel like you're off. But for people that

568
00:31:49,559 --> 00:31:53,240
are really trying, that have been through trauma, like they

569
00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:56,960
really do need longer term work. And I like to

570
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,720
start out once a week, and I even offer because

571
00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:02,000
like I I know people are trying to be budget conscious.

572
00:32:03,079 --> 00:32:06,119
I like an hour for the first time because I

573
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,519
really need to get to know the person. And then

574
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,720
they can come in for thirty minutes and we focus

575
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,519
on the chakras. But if they need the counseling piece after,

576
00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:18,200
because I sit to do a breakdown and sometimes like

577
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,799
an hour session can turn into an hour and forty

578
00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:21,319
five minutes.

579
00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:24,039
Speaker 1: So just talking, okay, this is so much more than

580
00:32:24,079 --> 00:32:28,640
I knew. What you do, what you specifically do. So

581
00:32:28,759 --> 00:32:31,440
you do the reiki on someone and then you sit,

582
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:33,279
what is the breakdown, what's the counseling?

583
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,759
Speaker 2: I love it, So I do oracle cards for them.

584
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:40,519
I pull them before they even come in and that

585
00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:42,720
kind of gives me a little bit of insight as

586
00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:46,000
to what might be going on. And then we read

587
00:32:46,039 --> 00:32:49,119
the cards and I always say, take what resonates and

588
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,480
leave the rest behind. It doesn't matter. And like when

589
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:56,000
I draw a card for somebody, my cards are meant

590
00:32:56,279 --> 00:32:59,960
to They are I specifically connect with spirit to release

591
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:02,799
the cards that have a message. And I can get

592
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,000
very specific. It could either be a message or guidance

593
00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:08,640
ask for So I'm very specific with my intentions when

594
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,599
I'm pulling them. They are not to tell the future

595
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,880
or anything like that. They are to help someone to

596
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,319
go either deeper into something. I can't tell you how

597
00:33:19,319 --> 00:33:22,640
many times I've drawn a card and it like literally

598
00:33:23,319 --> 00:33:27,200
brings something to the surface that was buried. Oh yeah,

599
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,039
and they're like, oh my god, and like it makes

600
00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:34,400
them remember something that's very pertinent that they think is

601
00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:38,319
just something that's nothing that they really need to clear.

602
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,720
It could be guidance on maybe making you think about something,

603
00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:47,279
you know, Like I'm just using this as an example,

604
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:50,480
like if a card is implying that maybe you need

605
00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:52,799
to be more grateful, maybe like, yeah, I really haven't

606
00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:56,359
been very grateful. So there's so many different things, and

607
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,400
then you know, one thing leads to another and they

608
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,559
start they start perching. I can't just say you gotta go.

609
00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I.

610
00:34:06,759 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: Put an hour down for people. But honestly, I do

611
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:15,639
not book type schedules. I'm not by the clock. I

612
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:16,480
give them what they need.

613
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: So this is really very personal. You know what this is.

614
00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:24,119
I don't know if you read the word, but it's

615
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,320
very loving. Yeah, yeah, it's very loving. Yes, you come

616
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,760
from a very the love energy and you are there

617
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:35,320
to help the person understand. And God, I think often

618
00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:42,119
you brought up somebody saying a psychic or whatever, like

619
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:44,960
your psychic. I don't know if you agree with this,

620
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,719
and I have said this to other people. I'm not

621
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,920
sure that anybody can tell you your future. No, I

622
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,199
think they can read your energy and see the path

623
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,719
you're on. Because how many people go, oh, didn't happen, Well,

624
00:34:57,639 --> 00:35:00,920
they told you it might, and maybe you so strongly

625
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,800
somehow in your own energy diverted whatever it was and

626
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,760
it didn't happen good or bad.

627
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 2: Because we have free will. I don't believe it.

628
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't take in the future.

629
00:35:12,199 --> 00:35:14,559
Speaker 2: You change your future. Yes, you can be on a

630
00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:16,119
bad trajectory.

631
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,119
Speaker 1: And someone could warn you right, yes.

632
00:35:18,639 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 2: Crossroads, you can go this way or you can go

633
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:21,920
this way.

634
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:22,079
Speaker 1: Yeah.

635
00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:26,519
Speaker 2: So yeah, and that's that's why I use my Everything

636
00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:31,000
I do comes from a place of love and goodness.

637
00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:36,480
There's nothing malicious or male intent. There's nothing religious, there's

638
00:35:36,519 --> 00:35:39,320
nothing that I'm trying to bucket gain. I'm not trying

639
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,800
to play God. That's like telling a doctor or a

640
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,039
nurse or a chiropractor, you know they're in the business

641
00:35:46,039 --> 00:35:49,199
of healing too. They're not trying to supersede God. We're

642
00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:52,440
helping people and that's all I'm trying to do. And

643
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:57,320
I'm going to say something else, like I don't feel that.

644
00:35:57,639 --> 00:36:02,079
I always believe in teamwork when I see someone because

645
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,440
there's other people in the building. I'm at the healing house,

646
00:36:05,519 --> 00:36:09,840
so I'm with Katie Wilmot also, and there's times like

647
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,880
when they have some physical stuff going on and emotional stuff,

648
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,119
it's all tied together. I have this book on the

649
00:36:17,159 --> 00:36:20,039
Metaphysical Meaning of Illness and you can look up every

650
00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:24,880
syndrome thing. It always connects to what is going on

651
00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:31,639
emotionally with them. It's crazy. So sometimes I'll be like, oh, yeah,

652
00:36:31,679 --> 00:36:34,360
I feel things so deeply. I mean I no.

653
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,119
Speaker 1: But I mean for even us, Oh God, right where

654
00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:40,719
you're talking about, like what there's something going on emotionally

655
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:43,920
and it causing physical disease.

656
00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:48,559
Speaker 2: Disease, Yes, exactly. So I'll be like, I really think

657
00:36:48,599 --> 00:36:50,760
you could benefit from seeing Katie. I don't make them

658
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,800
going again for you with So Katie does a type

659
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,679
of energy healing. It is hers is so different. She

660
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:04,880
was an before and she does oh my god, I'm

661
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,519
trying to think of the name of it. I'll think

662
00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:09,400
of the name of it in a second. But she

663
00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:13,199
works with people and again all energy based. She feels

664
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,800
the energy and she she can tell what might be

665
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,320
going on. And then she has these different remedies that

666
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,360
she makes for them to take. And that's like when

667
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,800
I say remedies, it's all energy based. So she has

668
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,159
her own way of doing things. And then Colleen, even

669
00:37:29,199 --> 00:37:33,559
though Colleen is you know in New Mexico, I still

670
00:37:33,559 --> 00:37:35,519
refer people to her because she does it through Zoom.

671
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:41,039
She's a spiritual counselor and she helps people. I feel

672
00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:43,679
like the spiritual piece can be missing in a lot

673
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,719
of things. And so if I think somebody is aligned

674
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,880
with her and that she's aligned with them, because that's important,

675
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,639
Like I know who the matches are for her. But

676
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,639
I also might be like, you need to go see

677
00:37:57,679 --> 00:38:02,639
your doctor. You know you to you need some counseling too.

678
00:38:03,559 --> 00:38:06,440
I might even suggest a different type of energy healing.

679
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,000
I don't everybody wants to be the hero and well

680
00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:13,039
it's because of what I did that they got better.

681
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:16,119
I don't feel that way. I get that teamwork because

682
00:38:16,159 --> 00:38:20,599
it's never just one thing. I feel like what I do.

683
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,679
I mean, yeah, I have great results. But if I

684
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,639
feel that somebody needs another thing added on to it,

685
00:38:29,159 --> 00:38:32,840
I'm not afraid to send them somewhere because we're in

686
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,079
the business of helping the person. This isn't about us.

687
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,480
This is about the client. So that's just kind of

688
00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:42,239
how I great.

689
00:38:43,039 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: That's absolutely the way it should be.

690
00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:46,159
Speaker 2: To step out of the way.

691
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: Well, the ego too, I don't get any sense of

692
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,840
ego with you, because you said early on this is

693
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:54,719
on the conduit, right, I.

694
00:38:55,280 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 2: Have responsibility for like you know, I'll take a little responsibility,

695
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,840
I guess. But yeah, just energy flows through me. I

696
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,639
like through me versus I I.

697
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: Am the energy.

698
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: You know. I don't know. We don't do that, you know.

699
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,679
And the thing is the difference. I will tell you

700
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,719
the difference between me and the type of healing people

701
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:24,199
get confused with someone who is blind is not going

702
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,239
to walk in my office and I lay my hands

703
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,960
on them and they're no. The type of healing that

704
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,880
they're thinking about with Jesus, he is really a superpower

705
00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:37,920
for healing. It is a type of energy healing energy.

706
00:39:38,119 --> 00:39:43,480
I mean, let's let's be real here, okay. But you know, no,

707
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,639
I do not. I don't put myself up there at all.

708
00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: Do you ever, though, tell people to not talk about

709
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:56,559
the ailment that they came to you for after leaving you.

710
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,519
The only reason I asked that is when you talk

711
00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:03,400
about g Jesus and you're saying, like the eyesight I

712
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,039
remember and I can't find in the Bible, and my

713
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,159
dad would told me I was wrong on this, but

714
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,840
I think it was true. Go forth and tell no

715
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,639
one when he would like the leprosy and the ear

716
00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:17,159
fell off, and you know, I'll just say, you know,

717
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,199
Bob goes and sees Jesus his ears back, and all

718
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,519
of a sudden, Bob comes back in and Tom goes, yeah,

719
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:23,639
give it a week, it's gonna fall off. And the

720
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,159
doubt comes back, the worry comes back, and all that

721
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,719
where Go forth and tell no one. And so you

722
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,000
are so fervent in the belief that everything is good,

723
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,559
that we don't put the doubt back in there. And

724
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:41,800
I think a lot of times you'll see people relapse,

725
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,320
and you do wonder in certain instances when they get

726
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,119
the all clear, right and they ring the bell talking

727
00:40:48,119 --> 00:40:51,239
about cancer or something, and then later on there's you know,

728
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,519
what happened to my uncle Joe? And so now they right?

729
00:40:55,559 --> 00:40:58,719
And so you start to and I really wonder, is

730
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:03,800
there real true to that? Is there? Now? No one

731
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,920
gets you're here for a finite amount of time. What

732
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,079
the time that is? I don't, We don't know. But

733
00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:12,599
so it's not to say that, you know, you need

734
00:41:12,639 --> 00:41:16,360
to everybody leaves, right, everybody leaves the physical form, But

735
00:41:17,519 --> 00:41:20,320
is that a portion of it? And I often think

736
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,440
with the ideas, when you have an idea to do something,

737
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,760
I go, I don't say anything until it's done, because

738
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,199
everybody's going to tell you, ah, right, you want to

739
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,079
write a screenplay. I have five guys that tried to

740
00:41:33,079 --> 00:41:35,400
write screenplays. You know where they are now? They're bartenders.

741
00:41:35,559 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: That's so stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, don't Like I

742
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,440
always even try to tell my kids that, like, don't

743
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,800
talk about it until it's done. Talk about it when

744
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,840
you have a final product, right.

745
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,159
Speaker 1: And I even wonder what the healing in a way.

746
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 2: I never thought of that.

747
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,519
Speaker 1: I only do when you brought up Jesus. I thought

748
00:41:56,559 --> 00:41:59,199
of that a lot. And I often think, you know,

749
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:04,480
we've sort of bring back here's something that I'm I

750
00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:08,079
don't know why so much, but I'm so on this

751
00:42:08,159 --> 00:42:10,800
thing now and it has more to do with my

752
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,440
kids than anything. But I'm not a fan of arguing

753
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,119
foreign limitations, and I think that's also a form of

754
00:42:18,199 --> 00:42:23,400
saying I have severe depression. That's why it's there. And

755
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,920
I wish that you didn't know you had severe depression.

756
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,519
I'm not saying you don't. I'm not doing that. I'm

757
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:32,519
not saying that there isn't a Western medicine that could

758
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:35,239
be seen as a tool. But I do think that

759
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,679
when it's in your head so much that it becomes

760
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,320
the crutch or the excuse not to instead of actually living.

761
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's interesting that you're bringing that up, because again,

762
00:42:48,639 --> 00:42:53,320
everything is energy. Our thoughts are energy, our words are energy.

763
00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:57,360
So I met with this was I don't know, probably

764
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:02,119
eight years ago, maybe longer. It was after I did

765
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,480
my training, and this woman, her name was Georgie. She's like,

766
00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:07,679
she has no training, she was born into this. She

767
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,719
just does it. Okay, she understands it. And she came

768
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,920
to the place that I was training and I said, oh,

769
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,280
I said, I'd love to meet her because I know

770
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,440
a friend that went to her and she's like, she's amazing.

771
00:43:17,079 --> 00:43:19,519
And so I am met with her for thirty minutes

772
00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:22,840
and we were just chatting and she was talking about

773
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,960
this kind of thing. She says, you know, she says,

774
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,480
we create such permanence with our words. She said, instead

775
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,880
of saying I have anxiety, it's I'm having an anxiety experience,

776
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,840
she says, because an experience comes and goes where I

777
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,199
have anxiety as a permanence, I have this or I

778
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,920
had like And she says, it's the way that we

779
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:51,000
word things that we create permanence. And I always remembered that,

780
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,760
and I try to be conscious conscious of it.

781
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: But I'm so happy because I've never heard anybody say that,

782
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,360
and it's been a big thing with me. And I'm

783
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,239
not saying remember that. You know, let's say, early intervention

784
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,800
with certain things with children wonderful, but don't let the

785
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,639
kid know what they have or don't have. Let's push

786
00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:12,880
them as far as you can, let them live as

787
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,559
free as possible. And I don't mean push them in, no,

788
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:22,119
let them find them away, but let's not let their limitations. Yes, yes, yes,

789
00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:24,079
it's like saying you're a Reki healer. I don't want

790
00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:25,440
to be put in that box. Is what you said,

791
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,320
I'm a healer. I think that's wonderful and so important

792
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,480
for people to realize that. You know, you look at

793
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,079
a Venn diagram, right, We've got everything's intersecting circles that

794
00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:39,440
we have. I think that's uh. I love that. I

795
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,239
love that. That woman yes said that was because.

796
00:44:43,079 --> 00:44:45,639
Speaker 2: It's stuck with me. Sure, it very much stuck because

797
00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:50,559
it made sense. If you understand energy. That makes sense.

798
00:44:51,199 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: Talk to me about understanding energy when you say that,

799
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,079
because I'd like to say to you, oh I do.

800
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,159
I don't know if I do. I want to, I

801
00:44:59,199 --> 00:45:00,719
want to. There are a lot times I feel like

802
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,840
I try to sometimes put my hands close together and

803
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,840
feel yeah, oh yeah, and do this, and then there

804
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,639
are times like I just try to move that through me.

805
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,360
I don't do it to other people because it's a

806
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,960
little weird, but I.

807
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,039
Speaker 2: Do. I know everything about energy. No, I don't know.

808
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,400
But when I say I understand it through this process

809
00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:26,599
and doing what I do, I understand it so much

810
00:45:26,639 --> 00:45:30,960
more and so much makes sense that probably things that

811
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:37,320
I shouldn't understand. Words. Our words are so powerful. Everything

812
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,360
is a vibration, everything is an energy they I mean,

813
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,599
there's been studies where you talk negative to a plant,

814
00:45:44,599 --> 00:45:47,480
like where they put plants together. You talk positive. Our

815
00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:51,800
words will hurt us or help us to grow and

816
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:56,559
bloom our thoughts. Okay, when you're have you ever met

817
00:45:56,599 --> 00:46:01,599
someone that like, literally they open their mouth it drains me. Okay,

818
00:46:02,079 --> 00:46:05,199
when people are so negative. I have been around these people.

819
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,800
It's like you say hello and all of a sudden

820
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,119
everything spills out about how horrible their day was, and

821
00:46:11,639 --> 00:46:15,679
you know, just it's very very draining. And it's okay

822
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,880
to have a bad day. And I'm not talking about

823
00:46:18,599 --> 00:46:21,719
people in your home. I'm talking about in general, like

824
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,039
I've just people I've been in contact with in public.

825
00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:27,480
You know, I always my containers as big as can

826
00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:30,800
be for my home. Everybody has a bad day. But

827
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,079
I'm talking about the person that you see on a

828
00:46:33,119 --> 00:46:36,599
constant basis or every time you run into them. Yeah,

829
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,079
it's just you say hello, and you're almost like you

830
00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:47,000
never say how are you, because you'll week of their

831
00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:49,679
life and not one thing was good. And I have

832
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,360
clients like that too, and I'm just like and like,

833
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,360
I know, if someone is just going to be caught

834
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:56,599
on the hamster wheel.

835
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,199
Speaker 1: Do you ever say to them, yes.

836
00:46:59,119 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm honest. I'm just like, yeah, you're just going

837
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:09,159
to continue like if you It's it's that saying that.

838
00:47:09,199 --> 00:47:12,119
It is such a simple saying, what if you're going

839
00:47:12,159 --> 00:47:16,480
to continue doing the same things, Nothing's going to change, right,

840
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,440
So you have to be willing to change things. And

841
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,039
you can thinking that you want to change it versus

842
00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:26,039
actually doing the things to change are two different things.

843
00:47:26,559 --> 00:47:29,199
And think and wish all you want, okay, And that's

844
00:47:29,199 --> 00:47:31,960
the same thing. Like that. It's like manifesting right right,

845
00:47:32,119 --> 00:47:34,360
it's sort of your way of man like, what are

846
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,920
you manifesting in your in your mind? You have to

847
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,760
put the action in. You've got to do something.

848
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:45,679
Speaker 1: I think that's a very important thing because manifesting. There

849
00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:47,679
were a couple of things that that popped into my

850
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,719
head as we're talking. I love these conversations for me

851
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,800
because they're I don't I don't I just love them.

852
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,119
I love them because they're more of a philosophical thing.

853
00:47:58,159 --> 00:48:03,079
And then I see the world a certain way or

854
00:48:03,079 --> 00:48:05,880
people a certain way, and I've interacted with people that

855
00:48:06,039 --> 00:48:09,199
I like to think that I can say it in

856
00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:12,119
a way that maybe somebody else would understand it or

857
00:48:12,159 --> 00:48:14,239
get it a little bit better than other things. And

858
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,840
I think you have that as well. But when we're

859
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,360
talking about even I think the buzzwords like manifest right,

860
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,920
so now I'm gonna manifest this, Well, what does that mean?

861
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,480
And what are you doing? And do you truly understand it?

862
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,079
Because there's even that one of the insurance companies do

863
00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:33,800
a commercial one of the guys like yeah, and you know,

864
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,719
you bundle your boat and I love this spot and

865
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,800
all this, Hey you better get here before people. And

866
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,079
then this girl's like, hey, just out here, fam manifesting happiness.

867
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,400
It's become the buzz, right, It's become the influencer buzz

868
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:54,679
And so I go, okay, that's fine, but you can

869
00:48:55,639 --> 00:49:01,880
you just have to. The thing is equated to working out.

870
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:06,000
I have had an interesting, i'll call it an interesting

871
00:49:06,119 --> 00:49:11,159
two years of my life recently that has been ups

872
00:49:11,199 --> 00:49:15,599
and downs, And I would say I guess traumatic. It

873
00:49:15,639 --> 00:49:18,159
seems a little dramatic to say that word, but there's stuff,

874
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,519
and I feel like you're sort of coming out of that.

875
00:49:22,639 --> 00:49:27,559
But I think what you think and where you go

876
00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:30,800
and the frequency you tap into will determine everything. And

877
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,519
sometimes the simple thing of getting up and taking a

878
00:49:33,559 --> 00:49:36,960
walk and just feeling better is the next step to

879
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:40,840
then cleaning your kitchen, which I know sounds dumb, but

880
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,199
that helps, and getting a little more organized and starting

881
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,480
your thing, and you just kind of go from there

882
00:49:47,039 --> 00:49:51,679
and you'll start to see the manifestation of exactly what

883
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,559
you want. But I can't get from A to B,

884
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,760
like I can't get from here to Buffalo unless I

885
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,199
go on the journey. That's the part that people I

886
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,920
don't I think they don't like. And you've got to

887
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:08,599
do the journey, the work, the energy work that like I.

888
00:50:08,639 --> 00:50:10,679
Speaker 2: Love, because I think people think that they're like, Okay,

889
00:50:10,679 --> 00:50:12,639
I'm going to write down on my durn, Yes, I'm

890
00:50:12,679 --> 00:50:17,920
going to say the words abra cadabra, And it has

891
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,679
to come from here. Like saying things from your mouth

892
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,760
is different than having it you feel it and come

893
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,519
from your heart. It just starts right here. If your

894
00:50:27,559 --> 00:50:30,679
heart is not clear. You need to clear this out

895
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,360
before you start you're manifesting.

896
00:50:33,639 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a lot of times that limitations

897
00:50:36,599 --> 00:50:39,559
that you have to go inside yourself and realize the

898
00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:41,639
thought you thought over and over and over that became

899
00:50:41,679 --> 00:50:45,519
a belief it's actually bullshit, right that you can actually

900
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,320
and and a lot of times too, I think life

901
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,920
mirrors you. What I was going to say, over like

902
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:56,880
the two years, I gained thirty five pounds and I'm like,

903
00:50:57,079 --> 00:50:58,239
I got to get back in the gym and I've

904
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,480
been running and doing this and I'm I see the

905
00:51:00,519 --> 00:51:03,280
scale and it just winces down just slightly, just slightly,

906
00:51:03,639 --> 00:51:05,360
And I thought to myself, Yeah, but it took you.

907
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,559
I'll call it disease. It took you two and a

908
00:51:08,599 --> 00:51:10,519
half years to get sick. It's going to take you

909
00:51:10,599 --> 00:51:13,400
a little while to get back. So enjoy the journey,

910
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:17,559
Enjoy the jogs, enjoy the sunshine, Enjoy that. And way

911
00:51:17,559 --> 00:51:20,440
easier said than done, because we're impatient and we have

912
00:51:20,599 --> 00:51:22,960
instant gratification like yesterday.

913
00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but a lot of that is going to come

914
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,119
from making sure you love yourself enough through all of this,

915
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:31,840
Like you have to love yourself, yes, because if you're

916
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,360
loathing yourself through it, that's not going to he that's

917
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:35,239
going to hold you back.

918
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: I said to a friend of mine the other day

919
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,480
who said something to me, and I said, would you

920
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,159
talk to your best friend that way? About themselves? They

921
00:51:41,199 --> 00:51:43,400
were saying something about themselves, and I said, would you

922
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,599
talk to your best friend that way? And they've echoed

923
00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:49,880
that back to me a food time, sort of sarcastically,

924
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,800
but I think it resonated because I'm like, why, you know,

925
00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:57,960
I eat like a child and I'm so fucking fat,

926
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,079
my pants don't fit and blah blah blah. And I go, so,

927
00:52:00,519 --> 00:52:02,840
would you talk to your best friend that way? If

928
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,960
she came to you or he came to you and

929
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,360
said And it's most let me just say this. Men

930
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,480
never talk that way to each other. Yeah, you know,

931
00:52:09,639 --> 00:52:11,000
you don't. Never hear a guy go, hey, do these

932
00:52:11,079 --> 00:52:12,000
jeens make me look fad?

933
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:13,639
Speaker 2: No? No, we don't.

934
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,199
Speaker 1: Yes, it's a girl thing, but there are other things

935
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,960
guys will do, same type of stuff. You're a human being, yeah,

936
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,280
same equation, and you just can't talk, you know, to

937
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,079
yourself that way. You do have to really truly love

938
00:52:27,159 --> 00:52:31,239
yourself and at times give yourself, rest and give yourself

939
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,199
a break and some you know, I always think this,

940
00:52:34,599 --> 00:52:37,559
You got a couple of choices in the moment, go

941
00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:39,679
to the one that feels the best, do it to

942
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,239
its fullest. Don't worry about the outcome. Sounds a little crazy,

943
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:43,840
No it's not.

944
00:52:44,039 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: I always say, release out, like, don't have expectations what

945
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,880
the outcome like, release it. And that's something I had

946
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,840
to learn. And when I did, like what happened when

947
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:59,480
you did? Like a I don't care so like sometimes

948
00:52:59,519 --> 00:53:01,960
when you so much and it's like if something doesn't

949
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,159
go your way and it makes you mad, that's just block.

950
00:53:04,599 --> 00:53:08,639
It's just a block. So I manifest all the time

951
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,519
and it works like I know what I have to do.

952
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:14,519
In fact, me and Colleen are putting together a six

953
00:53:14,639 --> 00:53:19,719
day manifesting challenge. So she's mixing in astrology so people can.

954
00:53:19,679 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 1: Understand is she your friend in New Mexico?

955
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,519
Speaker 2: She is. Yes, we're gonna do it online and hopefully September.

956
00:53:25,559 --> 00:53:28,880
I'm still writing it makes the sign of the Cross

957
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,280
for that. So she's doing the astrology piece so people

958
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,880
can understand who they are. Like astrology again, it's just

959
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,880
when you're born under certain planets. I am telling you,

960
00:53:41,039 --> 00:53:44,039
when you see chaos like on the collective, take a

961
00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:46,239
look at what's going on inside your own life or

962
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,119
things that come up. It is amazing. I have learned

963
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,960
so much, and just even about the signs that you

964
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,159
were born under and how you interact and you know

965
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,599
some of the things that could be your blocks in life.

966
00:53:58,639 --> 00:54:01,360
So she is doing that part of it. I'm doing

967
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,400
I'm writing the action part of it so that people

968
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,360
will have like a journal and I'm going to do

969
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,360
some meditations and the first thing we have to do

970
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,760
is clear out the heart chakra. So just kind of

971
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,679
bringing them through a six day journey so that they

972
00:54:13,679 --> 00:54:17,039
can be interactive with it, and if they can't join

973
00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:18,840
us on our lives, it will be a tape. They

974
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,400
can do it in the evening, but make a commitment

975
00:54:21,559 --> 00:54:24,079
to that six days and see what changes.

976
00:54:26,039 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: Wow, that's fantastic. How do people become part of that?

977
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 2: So we're once I have everything written, and I just

978
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,679
have to make sure, like all of the technical stuff works,

979
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:42,559
because you know, it's not my foretese. Sometimes I'm okay,

980
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,960
but it's not my fore tape. We're going to start

981
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,840
advertising for it. We're going to pay for advertising, and

982
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,679
I said, you know, I'm not looking for everybody fund

983
00:54:51,679 --> 00:54:53,800
anybody on Facebook wants to join, that's fine, I said,

984
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:54,679
I'm not looking for the people.

985
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: I know.

986
00:54:55,039 --> 00:54:59,079
Speaker 2: I want the country I want outside of.

987
00:54:59,079 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: The country we're relating for.

988
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,079
Speaker 2: I said, I don't know what we're going to do

989
00:55:03,159 --> 00:55:04,920
this first time, but if it goes well, we're just

990
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,000
going to keep building it and we're going to keep

991
00:55:07,039 --> 00:55:10,760
doing it because people don't know how to do it right.

992
00:55:11,079 --> 00:55:17,320
And it's it really does work. It's I can I

993
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,360
can tell you stories. It's it's worked for me.

994
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: I think it's so true, Gina. And as you're you're talking,

995
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,400
I often think, like I don't know if it's conditioning

996
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,760
and the way we were brought up, but our knee

997
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,159
jerk reactions sometimes to certain situations is I will say,

998
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:38,480
for me, the wrong reaction, and that I've I've learned

999
00:55:38,519 --> 00:55:42,000
to find a way to give myself a buffer so

1000
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:47,440
then I can sort of almost read the energy of

1001
00:55:47,559 --> 00:55:52,840
the other person and go deeper and say this is

1002
00:55:53,559 --> 00:55:56,519
an implication of something deeper. What's what? What else is

1003
00:55:56,639 --> 00:55:59,119
really going on? Yes, you know, even with my son,

1004
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,159
he said to his mother that there was he thinks

1005
00:56:03,199 --> 00:56:05,400
I have a girlfriend or something and blah blah blah

1006
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,719
blah blah, and I'm never gonna call her mom. And

1007
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,599
she said, I'm not saying that to do anything, and

1008
00:56:09,639 --> 00:56:11,519
I'm not saying that you do or you don't. And

1009
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:16,480
I said, he's deeply sad. Yeah, right, because your first

1010
00:56:16,519 --> 00:56:19,599
reaction would be like, whoa, i'ma spread of my time

1011
00:56:19,679 --> 00:56:22,400
with none of your fucking business, bitch, right, which is

1012
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,199
horrible and it's not what this was about. And that's

1013
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,239
not even how she was coming at it. And I

1014
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,840
simply had to stop and go, oh, he's sad.

1015
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 2: So that's just a sign that you have truly grown,

1016
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,960
because when you can start seeing things that you are

1017
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,880
seeing it from your heart, yeah and not from here.

1018
00:56:41,159 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1019
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,559
Speaker 2: Okay, And I've had those shifts too.

1020
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure you have.

1021
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 2: You know, let's face it, we all don't love being

1022
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,199
around everybody, right, and everybody doesn't love being around me.

1023
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,840
So sometimes you just have to manage it. And when

1024
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:03,119
you reach this space, you can this feeling of I

1025
00:57:03,199 --> 00:57:05,679
feel bad for them, because I've had that happen where

1026
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:10,440
all of a sudden, you know, I'm like, they have

1027
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,000
so much going on that this has nothing to do

1028
00:57:14,159 --> 00:57:18,559
with me. It's all them. They are not happy.

1029
00:57:19,679 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: I know we're going longer than I said. No no, no,

1030
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,639
no no, I don't want to mess up your day. Okay,

1031
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:31,960
So here would be my other question. Then I often say,

1032
00:57:34,159 --> 00:57:37,000
there are two things with this, but you can't assert

1033
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:43,880
on someone else, almost like I can't assert something on you.

1034
00:57:44,119 --> 00:57:50,719
I can't. This is why I think human beings are incapable.

1035
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,039
Speaker 2: Of of.

1036
00:57:53,840 --> 00:58:00,559
Speaker 1: Almost pure love right right, the the absolute, unadulterated, the

1037
00:58:00,679 --> 00:58:04,280
pure love, because I'd love you so much if you

1038
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:10,800
just behaved differently right conditions. Yes, unconditional love, I think

1039
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:15,000
is something that human beings are somewhat incapable of because

1040
00:58:15,199 --> 00:58:18,920
it's always well, I would feel better if you blanked.

1041
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,760
And that's where I've started to go, Hang on a second,

1042
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,880
that's a little bit of bullshit, and it's a little

1043
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:29,599
bit of bullshit on me for thinking that whatever they're doing,

1044
00:58:29,679 --> 00:58:31,679
they're doing you've got to stay in your high flying

1045
00:58:31,719 --> 00:58:34,840
disc over here in order for everything to be better

1046
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,719
and maybe help lift them up a little bit.

1047
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:41,599
Speaker 2: And we when we do that, that's the time that

1048
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,280
you have to look in the mirror and say, why

1049
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,159
is this triggering me. Yeah, and it usually has nothing

1050
00:58:46,199 --> 00:58:48,280
to do with the other party. It's something in you

1051
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,840
you yeah, yeah, Yeah. You have to look at yourself.

1052
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:52,199
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1053
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 2: People don't want to. They would rather point their fingers

1054
00:58:54,519 --> 00:58:55,159
at somebody else.

1055
00:58:55,199 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: It's not my fault exactly, okay, right, right.

1056
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, have to really go within and you have

1057
00:59:03,639 --> 00:59:08,000
to really deeply ask yourself, like why would this bother me?

1058
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,119
Like it has nothing to do it has nothing to

1059
00:59:11,199 --> 00:59:13,800
do with me, right, Yeah, so's triggers.

1060
00:59:14,039 --> 00:59:17,239
Speaker 1: There are there are triggers. And I'm not again not

1061
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,440
saying it's not real, not saying, but you have the

1062
00:59:20,599 --> 00:59:24,480
ultimate control. You need to learn to control your energy.

1063
00:59:24,559 --> 00:59:30,119
I have often said before exploring more the energy side

1064
00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:32,239
of life and that sort of thing, would say that

1065
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:33,920
one of the things do you have to do as

1066
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,079
an adult is get control of your emotions absolutely and

1067
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,039
that is part of that. And I do think you

1068
00:59:40,159 --> 00:59:42,440
can do that through energy. I think you have to

1069
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,039
learn to control.

1070
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,719
Speaker 2: That too, and it all comes down but you can help.

1071
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: It's my point. You can help, and that's I think

1072
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,559
something that people need to see. I'm excited for the

1073
00:59:52,679 --> 00:59:55,960
sixth course, six day course. I think that's incredible. What

1074
00:59:56,079 --> 00:59:56,760
a great idea.

1075
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 2: It's just a it's a fun thing to help people,

1076
01:00:00,639 --> 01:00:03,119
and you know, while they're doing it, we're doing it

1077
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,000
and we're there to answer questions if people are stuck,

1078
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,480
you know, and they get meditations and so it's you know,

1079
01:00:11,679 --> 01:00:16,760
we're we're embarking on it and it's you know mine, Yes,

1080
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,000
I know what I'm doing, but it's like I've never

1081
01:00:19,079 --> 01:00:21,440
done this before, like this is my first time doing it.

1082
01:00:21,519 --> 01:00:24,320
But we have to start somewhere, so you know, I'm human.

1083
01:00:24,599 --> 01:00:27,599
Speaker 1: Just that I love that you yeah, but I love

1084
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,280
that you're willing to do that. Yes, you know. I mean,

1085
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,719
fear is the biggest thing. I think. It was actually

1086
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:38,480
a comic that I loved. His name was Bill Hicks,

1087
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,800
and Bill Hicks died of pancreatic cancer and knew that

1088
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,440
he was dying, and he had jokes. I think he

1089
01:00:46,519 --> 01:00:49,800
went on The Letterman Show when Dave was on CBS

1090
01:00:50,079 --> 01:00:54,519
and they cut it because he had some joke about uh,

1091
01:00:55,039 --> 01:00:58,400
Jesus and you know, everybody wearing the cross and he

1092
01:00:58,519 --> 01:01:00,239
comes back, He's going to be running away from you

1093
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,679
all or something ridiculous, right, Kids across as such a

1094
01:01:03,239 --> 01:01:05,760
and the Catholic League like so they squashed it. They

1095
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:10,039
never aired it, and years later Letterman had his mom

1096
01:01:10,159 --> 01:01:13,239
on and replayed the set of what he had recorded

1097
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,079
that night. It was interesting. But one of Bill's final

1098
01:01:16,159 --> 01:01:19,519
things was, there's only two things in life, and this

1099
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,360
is a comic and this is where I go. Sometimes

1100
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,639
there are just some people who are tapped in. He said,

1101
01:01:25,639 --> 01:01:30,000
There's two things, Love and fear. He goes, Love will

1102
01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:32,360
tell you to take care of your neighbor, feed the

1103
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,519
world a million times over, take our defense budget, and

1104
01:01:35,719 --> 01:01:38,119
let's make the world a better place. Fear tells you

1105
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,320
to buy more guns, put bigger locks in your door,

1106
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,039
blah blah blah, that sort of thing. And it was more.

1107
01:01:43,119 --> 01:01:45,880
But he goes, you know, life, it's a ride. It's

1108
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,280
an ups and downs and thrills and chills. And then

1109
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,000
he goes. But then some people come back. People have

1110
01:01:51,119 --> 01:01:53,599
come back to us and said, it's just a ride.

1111
01:01:54,039 --> 01:01:56,280
And then he says, but then there are those who go,

1112
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,760
what are you talking about. I have a big bank accountant,

1113
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,599
I can't have you. Well, I gotta protect and and

1114
01:02:01,719 --> 01:02:04,559
that we lose that it's just a ride. I mean

1115
01:02:04,679 --> 01:02:06,360
I watched my dad die, you know, when he took

1116
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,400
with him. You know what happened. He had a hospital

1117
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,480
gown on, all those beautiful clothes, all that you understand.

1118
01:02:11,519 --> 01:02:13,679
I'm saying, like, you don't take it with you. I

1119
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:14,880
do go and live.

1120
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 2: People are not going to remember you for that. They're

1121
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,280
not remember you know it's written all over the place,

1122
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,440
but it's so true. They're going to remember how you

1123
01:02:22,559 --> 01:02:26,079
treated them, how they felt when they were around you, exactly.

1124
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,440
No one cares about all of the other stuff.

1125
01:02:29,599 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: I am starting to well, maybe we'll end on this

1126
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,119
note and I'll see how if you agree or not.

1127
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:41,800
I am starting to believe because our feelings are really

1128
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:47,679
energy and the vibrations of songs like you go, I

1129
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,719
love that song, someone else goes that is a piece

1130
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,639
of shit hair metal? How could you like that? From

1131
01:02:52,679 --> 01:02:55,920
the eighties? But it brought you back to a feeling

1132
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,320
Oh you know what I mean? Yeah, And you want

1133
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,239
to be the person people feel good to be around.

1134
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

1135
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: You know. The one thing I will say, and I

1136
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,960
don't know anything about reading people, is I don't think

1137
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:12,119
you judge. I get a really non judgmental You're very

1138
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,880
warm and accepting, and yeah, I really get that.

1139
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,159
Speaker 2: I definitely try to be I.

1140
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:20,719
Speaker 1: Think it's natural with you. I don't know.

1141
01:03:21,119 --> 01:03:24,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, for the most part, do I judge something.

1142
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: Well, we all do. We have to say no, don't

1143
01:03:29,079 --> 01:03:32,000
judge it. It goes against humanity or nature.

1144
01:03:32,679 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 2: One thing I've learned is that we are here for

1145
01:03:36,679 --> 01:03:39,760
different reasons. People come into this world for different reasons.

1146
01:03:40,039 --> 01:03:42,400
When we have kids, one thing I've noticed with my kids.

1147
01:03:42,639 --> 01:03:45,679
All my kids are so different, and I honor each

1148
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,880
and every one of them for who they are. And

1149
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,119
I learned to do that because I can't tell you

1150
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,760
that I might have been like this fifteen years ago,

1151
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:59,000
but I have shifted so much that I honor where

1152
01:03:59,039 --> 01:04:03,639
they're at. I love their different aspirations. I don't compare

1153
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:08,039
them because they're individuals and each of them teaches me

1154
01:04:08,159 --> 01:04:11,960
something different. I learn from my kids and they are

1155
01:04:12,119 --> 01:04:14,360
here to teach us lessons, and some of them are

1156
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,960
even here to push us to be better or so

1157
01:04:19,239 --> 01:04:22,559
that's sort of where I'm at. And I definitely do

1158
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,679
see people in situations in a very different light than

1159
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:28,400
what I might.

1160
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: Have before, and very open.

1161
01:04:30,599 --> 01:04:34,639
Speaker 2: I think it's because I feel so much from others,

1162
01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:39,599
Like sometimes I without knowing somebody, they might be acting

1163
01:04:39,639 --> 01:04:42,079
a certain way or I could feel their sadness, Like

1164
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,920
I think I feel so much from people that it

1165
01:04:46,119 --> 01:04:48,760
just makes me know that maybe they need something a

1166
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,920
little bit more so I try to be that person

1167
01:04:52,079 --> 01:04:52,519
for them.

1168
01:04:52,719 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, if possible, give me the website again for people

1169
01:04:56,039 --> 01:04:57,440
to find and maybe learn.

1170
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,119
Speaker 2: MBS reiki dot com.

1171
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: Okay, NBS Ricky Willness dot com.

1172
01:05:03,639 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 2: Stands for Mind, Body Soul.

1173
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,679
Speaker 1: But okay, you don't want to write that. No, right, Well,

1174
01:05:07,679 --> 01:05:09,639
that's a lot to tighten. That would that would be

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a lot the tight Gina. It's been a pleasure. I

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really enjoyed the conversation. Thank you so much for coming in.

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Thank you, and uh, this has been I'm gonna call

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it the first of it's gonna be its own podcast

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and we're all pushed out weekly. And I'd love to

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get uh your friend of New Mexico. If they're willing,

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I could set up.

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Speaker 2: Up they would Yeah, I would love that.

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Speaker 1: I would love to do that. Okay, all right, for Gina,

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I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you on Bill Lightenman next week.

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