WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.119 --> 00:00:16.719 You are listening to Video Games to the Max. Hello, 2 00:00:16.920 --> 00:00:19.559 and welcome to another edition of Video Games to the Max. 3 00:00:19.640 --> 00:00:23.719 I'm your host Sean Garmer here with me today. Randy 4 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:27.239 isbel once again, Thank you so much for beyond again. 5 00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:28.960 All right? Who got laid off this week? 6 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:31.879 Mark didn't again laid off? He just could not make 7 00:00:31.960 --> 00:00:32.759 him back from. 8 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:35.399 I just figure if I'm here, it's because somebody got 9 00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:38.039 laid off in the video game industry, and it's my role. 10 00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:41.240 There was a studio closure, so I guess ah, I see, 11 00:00:42.240 --> 00:00:45.679 but hey, you know what one studio survived, Randy, it's 12 00:00:45.719 --> 00:00:47.840 the one that we talked about. I feel like for 13 00:00:47.880 --> 00:00:50.600 a couple of weeks, Mark and our Tango Game Works 14 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:54.159 and the High five Rush ip are still alive. They 15 00:00:54.240 --> 00:00:57.719 are going to another studio. We'll talk about that. That's 16 00:00:57.799 --> 00:01:02.200 the big headline for today. Some other stuff along with 17 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:05.760 the status of Control two and Maxi paying one and 18 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:09.040 two remasters. The other big thing is like they D 19 00:01:09.159 --> 00:01:12.280 twenty three had all their huge announcements for Marvel, Star Wars, 20 00:01:12.319 --> 00:01:15.159 Disney all that stuff. We'll talk about those things. The 21 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:18.560 Borderlands movie sucked, no surprise to anyone, but hey, why 22 00:01:18.599 --> 00:01:20.920 not we got to talk about it. Oh right, so 23 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:25.480 really quickly here, just to get these things out of 24 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:27.879 the way, you know, do the housekeeping. First of all, 25 00:01:28.799 --> 00:01:34.359 make sure you go check out Randy's show Bad Brackets. 26 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:37.400 Just go subscribe to Bad Brackets on YouTube. They just 27 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:43.439 did Greatest Second Genesis. 28 00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:45.120 That'd be next week. Next week is recorded that yesterday, 29 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:48.560 the one that dropped today. Best nicktoons, Hey all the 30 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:52.959 time and listen, we just discussed cartoons. But it got feisty. 31 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:55.680 Oh I'm sure it was kombay for. 32 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:59.079 The first half of this bracket. The second half of 33 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:04.079 the bracket it got a little a little heated, but 34 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:05.519 we had a lot of fun doing. 35 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:08.080 Yeah, And I imagine so there's so many those great 36 00:02:08.159 --> 00:02:10.400 nicktoons so back in the day, I know when I 37 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:12.919 watch it, I'm gonna have my thoughts to yell about 38 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:18.199 in the comments and you know, yeah, definitely. And then 39 00:02:18.520 --> 00:02:22.479 you know, Randy also's a surprise show that'll be hitting 40 00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:24.960 along with that too later on. So make sure you 41 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:28.599 go subscribe because you get everything that comes on the channel. 42 00:02:28.680 --> 00:02:32.960 So aside from that, also make sure you go check 43 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:40.520 out I hit the wrong button again, unfortunately half of 44 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:43.800 sometimes I thought I hit the but Anyway, let's moving 45 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:47.639 on to the housekeeping here for thirty to Network. Make 46 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:50.919 sure you go subscribe on the YouTube channel because if 47 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:52.719 you do, you get more than what we just do 48 00:02:52.879 --> 00:02:56.520 here for video games, which hey, you know appreciate y'all 49 00:02:56.599 --> 00:02:59.240 watch and listen. However many times you have checked out 50 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:03.120 the show, we usually do it around Monday's around It's 51 00:03:03.159 --> 00:03:05.520 usually around like an hour later. But for Randy, because 52 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:07.960 he lives in the Pacific time zone, we're gonna we're 53 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:11.840 gonna start a little bit earlier. But yeah, go go 54 00:03:11.919 --> 00:03:14.719 subscribe because you get you know, if you like anime. 55 00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:16.879 We have a whole anime show where they review pretty 56 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:20.840 much everything that comes out new with anime each week 57 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:25.159 each season. Go check out the Otacko Cafe folks over there. 58 00:03:25.159 --> 00:03:27.680 They do a great job. They just did a new 59 00:03:27.719 --> 00:03:30.319 episode a few days ago, so go check out that. 60 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:35.680 And for the entertainment TV side, the routs are broadcasting folks. 61 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:38.719 They keep up with it, probably more than I think 62 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:41.439 I know a lot of people do. Anything that comes out, 63 00:03:41.479 --> 00:03:45.599 big TV show, big movie. They've got the review so 64 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:48.319 you know, House the Dragon just finished, they had the 65 00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:50.960 review out there. They just did the review for the 66 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:54.159 Boys that finished not too long ago. They had that 67 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:56.120 review for Dead Pull Woverine, which I'm sure a lot 68 00:03:56.159 --> 00:03:57.639 of people haven't seen yet, so if you want to 69 00:03:57.719 --> 00:04:00.280 check out what they thought about it, definitely go do so. 70 00:04:01.039 --> 00:04:03.599 You know perks to scribing to the channel. You got 71 00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:07.080 a lot of different things here and well you can 72 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:10.199 also listen with your ears on podcasts. I apologize we 73 00:04:10.199 --> 00:04:12.240 were having I was having some issues with the feed 74 00:04:12.280 --> 00:04:15.120 on our end, so I just got out all that 75 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:17.480 I've been like two months behind, just got all the 76 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:21.279 stuff that was backlogged, and of course it showed that 77 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:24.240 Ranny didd with me last week also out there. Definitely 78 00:04:24.279 --> 00:04:26.079 go check that out because you get our thoughts on 79 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:31.079 the bungee layoffs and gaming former clothes down. Unfortunately that 80 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:34.839 happened on those that episode. But let's get into the 81 00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:38.399 stuff for this episode. We're we're not going to talk 82 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:40.600 about games we've been playing, because I think I only 83 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:42.959 played like an hour Supermarket Simulator and not much of 84 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:45.319 Shane's there for me and you haven't been playing. 85 00:04:45.959 --> 00:04:49.519 I downloaded that Lilies game. It's sitting there ready for 86 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:51.920 me to play it. I just haven't played it yet. 87 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:55.920 I downloaded the Business of Manna demo and then haven't 88 00:04:55.959 --> 00:04:58.879 played it yet, so if you're interested in that, Randy, 89 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:01.920 that's out there and both plays stationed in Xbox, and 90 00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:05.040 then the Creatures of Abo game also downloaded that I've 91 00:05:05.079 --> 00:05:08.879 played that like for about thirty minutes, so I've walked 92 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:12.240 around the initial area. I've seen some of the monsters. 93 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:14.279 I've taken a couple of pictures. That's all I did. 94 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:16.399 I don't know that I can really tell you anything 95 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:18.639 other than that, other than it seems like it's like 96 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:23.000 Pokemon Snap, but like you're not stuck to a buggy maybe, 97 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:25.560 and I think there is battles in that game too, 98 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:27.360 It's just I think it's different in a way of 99 00:05:27.439 --> 00:05:29.920 like more like you're trying to save the animals, not 100 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:33.560 so much like fighting with the animals. But but yeah, 101 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:35.839 I've probably had more to talk about that next week 102 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:39.439 when I actually fully play the game. But yeah, we'll 103 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:42.519 have to just make this more about the news here, 104 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:44.920 which I guess you might as well start with the 105 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:49.040 big headline here, which is basically out of nowhere, out 106 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:55.079 of nowhere late on Sunday evening, just blasted out there 107 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:58.240 by everybody that does you know, keeping up the News, 108 00:05:58.480 --> 00:06:03.759 whether it's Windows Central, all those great folks announced that 109 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:07.879 of all people, Crafton Inc. Which are best known as 110 00:06:07.920 --> 00:06:11.959 the publishers for PUBG and they were they also the 111 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:15.839 ones that did the studio striking. This was published Calisto Protocol, 112 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:19.279 which there's some issues there with Clysto Protocol we could 113 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:23.639 talk about too. But they have essentially acquired Tango Game 114 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:27.920 Works and the High Fried Rush IP from Microsoft, basically 115 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:30.439 preventing Tail game Werks from shutting down. Now they are 116 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:33.199 not getting to kee it. All of the other IP 117 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:35.639 that is was made by Tailegame Work, so they're not 118 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:40.560 taking Evil Within, they're not taking Ghostwar Tokyo. That stuff 119 00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:42.639 is staying with Microsoft, but they are getting the High 120 00:06:42.639 --> 00:06:44.160 Fight Rush IP, so there will be a High Fri 121 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:47.800 Rush two. All of the former employees are invited to 122 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:50.279 return if they want. I'm assuming some of those employees 123 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:52.920 already have at the jobs, so who knows how many 124 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:56.360 of those actual employees are going to be around still. 125 00:06:56.920 --> 00:07:00.279 And then you know, I guess the cool thing is 126 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:02.920 that that studio lives on instead of Microsoft shutting them down, 127 00:07:02.959 --> 00:07:05.600 So it's essentially you know, we thought about Torstter Bob 128 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:07.759 just basically spinning off and being their own thing. They 129 00:07:07.839 --> 00:07:11.560 just allowed in their studio to acquire them instead, And 130 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:13.720 then I think everything is going to stay on game 131 00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:16.279 past is from what I understood, like, everything is going 132 00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:17.800 to stay where it is. It's not going to just 133 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:21.360 suddenly come off of their according to the press release 134 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:24.600 for Crafted, so I was that's a surprising we were. 135 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:27.279 We were all, you know, lamenting the fact that you're 136 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:29.399 going to shut down a studio that have one of 137 00:07:29.439 --> 00:07:34.519 your most critically acclaimed games not too long ago. Do 138 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:37.120 you have faith that are you happy that the High 139 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:39.720 Frive Rust continues? And how much faith do you have 140 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:42.279 in High Frive Rush too, if say, even like maybe 141 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:43.399 half of the people come back. 142 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:46.240 Yeah, obviously you're excited that, you know, we actually have 143 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:50.319 news of a company returning or being held together as 144 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:53.600 much as possible, or or whatever the case may be, 145 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:57.279 where we're not just talking about people leaving very shocked 146 00:07:57.759 --> 00:08:00.319 that it is Crafted. You know, pugg was such a 147 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:02.959 big thing many many years ago. I'm sure a lot 148 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:05.720 of people still play it. I've just fallen off of it. 149 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:10.319 But obviously that's brought in enough money that they have 150 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:13.160 been able to do something like that, and that's exactly 151 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:15.920 what you want to see. I mean, during what was 152 00:08:15.959 --> 00:08:17.959 the E three time whatever we want to call it 153 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:21.560 now Summer Games Fest time with the creators of among 154 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:24.480 us helping out a lot of creators. I think that's 155 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:28.480 exactly what you want to see, is the indies coming 156 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:30.680 out making a really big game, making a lot of money, 157 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:34.559 and then using that money and their name brand to 158 00:08:34.720 --> 00:08:37.159 try to help others that are that are in trouble. 159 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:40.879 And obviously Tango Game Works was very much in trouble 160 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:45.360 after being dumped by Microsoft. So this is awesome. It's 161 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:48.039 very cool when you have the gaming community help out 162 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:51.440 the gaming community, get away from the big juggernauts out 163 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:53.720 there that are just looking at the bottom line and 164 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:57.279 whether it's a black number or red number at the 165 00:08:57.360 --> 00:08:59.000 end of the day, or if that black number is 166 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:02.279 just not big enough to make them feel good. So 167 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:08.080 this is awesome. Hopefully there's enough people from the original 168 00:09:08.159 --> 00:09:10.519 Tango Game Works that will take this opportunity and keep 169 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:13.720 the gang together. I'm sure it will not be the 170 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:16.799 same atmosphere as it used to be, but this is 171 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:21.200 this is good news, and hopefully it's not the last 172 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:23.279 of this kind of good news and more and more, 173 00:09:23.960 --> 00:09:27.399 you know, the smaller game developers really start rallying together 174 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:31.320 and maybe trying to cut ties a little bit with 175 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:34.120 the Microsoft's and the Sony's that just end up cutting 176 00:09:34.159 --> 00:09:36.120 everybody any this is this is nice to. 177 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:39.879 See, Yeah, for sure. I mean I do worry about 178 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:43.240 like how many of the original Tango Game Works team 179 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:45.600 is gonna come back, Like how many of them are 180 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:47.919 still out there? I mean, I'm sure there are many 181 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:50.120 that don't have jobs yet are still kind of like 182 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:52.360 we're trying to figure out the next move. Do they 183 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:55.679 want to come back? Just because you are with craft 184 00:09:55.759 --> 00:09:59.759 and doesn't necessarily mean that you are gonna be existing 185 00:09:59.799 --> 00:10:01.679 for long time because look at what happened with Carlyso 186 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:05.279 Protocol right, that game has a lot of bad history 187 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:09.879 with the two. According to the main person in charge, 188 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:12.200 she said that he was promised a bunch more months 189 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:13.519 to work on the game, and then all of a 190 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:16.279 sudden they told him, oh, no, you're getting this out 191 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:18.200 in December twenty twenty two, whether you like it or not. 192 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:23.720 And could that have been more because Dead Space remake 193 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:25.960 was set to come out and they were trying to 194 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:27.519 jump in front of it. Do you think that was 195 00:10:27.559 --> 00:10:28.679 the big strategy there. 196 00:10:29.039 --> 00:10:31.840 Oh yeah, for sure. I'm sure that that definitely had 197 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:35.559 a lot to do with it, that they were trying 198 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:39.320 to make sure that they didn't run into Oh man, 199 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:42.159 we can't come out after it because then no one's 200 00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:45.440 going to give two crops about this game, even though yes, 201 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:47.360 there's a lot of similarities, but there are some things 202 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:50.240 that are different as well. But the thing is that 203 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:53.480 you could a lot of people's complaints in the reviews 204 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:56.240 were that that it was rushed and that you could 205 00:10:56.240 --> 00:11:01.080 tell it was rushed and it's not great eight. You know, 206 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:06.000 to get that kind of a reception to something when 207 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:10.120 you've worked so hard on it, it's the studios, like 208 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:12.759 first project, then you make this is the impression that 209 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:17.039 you're making. And yeah, and at least with High Fire 210 00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:20.360 Rush too. The thing is there's a lot of heavy expectations, 211 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:23.639 right because I think a lot of people's most people 212 00:11:23.679 --> 00:11:26.559 gave it, what a great score nine to eight. It 213 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:29.080 won awards, you know, Best Indy. A lot of it 214 00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:32.799 was like sound or visuals, but there are people that 215 00:11:32.840 --> 00:11:35.120 were giving it like their best Indie game of the year. 216 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:37.840 Some bols maybe gave it their Game of the year, 217 00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:40.840 you know, even uh so it's a it's a game 218 00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:42.639 that has a lot of expectations on it. So like 219 00:11:42.679 --> 00:11:43.840 if you're going to say that you're going to make 220 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:46.919 a High five Rush too, that puts a burden on 221 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:53.080 that studio, especially if mister Johannes is not around, right, Yeah, I. 222 00:11:53.000 --> 00:11:58.519 Mean, and hopefully people will lower those expectations because again, 223 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:00.559 it's not going to be the same group that made 224 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:03.440 High Fire Rush that will make High Fire Rush too. Hopefully, 225 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:06.720 as you said, many of them will. We'll hop back 226 00:12:06.759 --> 00:12:09.159 on board and we'll get as close to the same 227 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:12.799 group as possible. But the one thing for Tango Game 228 00:12:12.840 --> 00:12:16.320 Works is they're now the underdog story again, right. They 229 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:19.080 are out from under the boot of Microsoft that kicked 230 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:21.120 them off to the side right after their game came 231 00:12:21.120 --> 00:12:25.600 out and was such a fantastic success. So I think 232 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:30.799 hopefully that that lowers expectations and we just hopefully are 233 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:34.399 nicely surprised when the sequel finally does come out and 234 00:12:34.399 --> 00:12:37.399 hopefully it's really good. But if it comes out and 235 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:39.799 it has some issues because or it doesn't have that 236 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:43.559 same field that High Fire Rush had because you just 237 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:45.480 don't have the same innovators that are a part of 238 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:49.200 the group. Hopefully they don't get completely trashed and then 239 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:51.679 Tango game Works gets booted to the side again, So 240 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:55.159 lower expectations a little bit, and then let's root for 241 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:58.320 the underdog actually have a winning in the story to this. 242 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:02.279 Yeah, that's what I'm hoping the most for is that 243 00:13:02.399 --> 00:13:07.360 it's good news and not bad news that you know, hey, 244 00:13:08.279 --> 00:13:11.600 let's uh, let's give them the time to make this game. 245 00:13:12.559 --> 00:13:16.679 Let's make sure that we're doing our best to give 246 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:18.879 them all the things they need to make this game. 247 00:13:19.960 --> 00:13:22.679 You know, it's not they have other games, right, but 248 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:27.159 when it comes to like pubg that's kind of their 249 00:13:27.320 --> 00:13:33.120 one notable, notable game, right that like people know them for. 250 00:13:34.039 --> 00:13:36.639 And yeah, some of the other stuff they have is 251 00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:39.039 kind of might be like small, you know, bigger, it's 252 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:42.480 like some circles, but it's not anything that like everybody's going, 253 00:13:42.519 --> 00:13:46.720 oh man, I can't wait to play this, right, So 254 00:13:47.759 --> 00:13:49.879 it's sometimes it's good that they're gonna kind of be 255 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:51.720 able to do their own thing. Will have fry rush now. 256 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:55.480 But like what about you know, music, is that going 257 00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:59.320 to be taken back a notch because you don't have 258 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:03.600 Microsoft behind it that might have been able to go 259 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:07.360 that extra mile for that. I mean, yes, they had 260 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:10.799 not just license tracks, but they had tracks that were 261 00:14:10.879 --> 00:14:14.159 original made and you could argue that some of those 262 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:18.519 original tracts are even better than the ones that were 263 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:21.279 licensed in there. But is it going to be with 264 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:23.919 the same quality? And that's what I worry about is, 265 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:26.360 you know, are you going to give them that same 266 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:27.519 li and see are you going to give them the 267 00:14:27.519 --> 00:14:29.519 tools to be able to make it better than the 268 00:14:29.600 --> 00:14:32.000 first one? Was NBA would make it to that like 269 00:14:32.159 --> 00:14:35.360 nine to nine point five level true game of the 270 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:38.600 Year type game, where like you know, you take that 271 00:14:38.639 --> 00:14:41.759 step from like Haites one to Hades two by all aspects, 272 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:44.360 still an early access by by all aspects. People were saying, 273 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:48.200 Haites two, you know, far above what Hades one was, 274 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:51.159 so ken you let it take that next step. That's 275 00:14:51.200 --> 00:14:54.519 what I hope we get out of this. If Microsoft 276 00:14:54.559 --> 00:14:58.600 wasn't going to take that bet on them, hopefully Crafton does. 277 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:01.440 And like you said, said, the most important thing out 278 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:04.639 of this is that it's good news in a game 279 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:07.679 industry that is full of and we're gonna talk about 280 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:08.200 one today. 281 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:08.799 Yeah. 282 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:16.559 Uh, Studio closures, layoffs terrible vibes companies that are like 283 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:20.080 having to slash things here and there because the big 284 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:24.440 game that they bet on didn't do well. So that's, uh, 285 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:30.240 that's an issue, right. And even Sony's had their their PlayStation, 286 00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:32.279 they didn't sell as many places fives as they thought 287 00:15:32.279 --> 00:15:35.399 they were gonna sell. I mean, it doesn't help that 288 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:38.080 they didn't have any big, huge games that came out either. 289 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:40.039 It's like Stubborn Blade and that was it in this 290 00:15:40.279 --> 00:15:46.200 entire quarter. But yeah, so awesome, awesome news to hear 291 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:51.440 about that. But unfortunately, uh, you know what, actually, let's 292 00:15:51.519 --> 00:15:54.919 let's stick with the positive news for a couple bit, 293 00:15:55.559 --> 00:15:59.240 cup a little bit more before we get the depressing news. 294 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:03.679 Remedy you know, has they've been they've been on a 295 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:05.879 high ever since I Don't Wake two. You got all 296 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:10.399 this critical love and all these awards and everything. You know, 297 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:13.759 it hadn't made its money back yet, and that's they were. 298 00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:16.440 But thankfully they were able to finally release a physical version, 299 00:16:16.519 --> 00:16:18.600 which that's what a lot of people were waiting on 300 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:23.039 to finally buy this game. Uh. And now they have 301 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:26.519 revealed Remedy Has that they've recouped most of the development 302 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:29.559 and marketing costs, and they've also released that Aunt Wake 303 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:32.399 two DLC The Night Springs you know, last a couple 304 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:34.120 of months ago, which I still need to go buy 305 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:38.600 by all accounts, is actually really good. So excited to 306 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:43.200 kind of dive into it, really and but you know, 307 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:45.679 they they've said that they have other projects in the 308 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:48.120 works and that they keep giving us updates. It feels 309 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:51.720 like every couple of months on where these are. And 310 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:54.919 Control Too apparently has a progress of the production readiness 311 00:16:54.919 --> 00:16:59.879 stage where it's now playable, uh to, from beginning to end, 312 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:02.320 and the team's working on scaling it up for the 313 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:05.400 production of the project. That's of course the next game 314 00:17:05.480 --> 00:17:07.799 in the whole series. So you know, if you don't know, 315 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:12.319 Control and Alan Waker kind of in cohoots with each other. 316 00:17:12.759 --> 00:17:15.480 It's all tied into one remedy verse. You know, everything 317 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:18.680 has to reverse, you know now, So even Max Payne 318 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:21.920 wanted to also is sort of in that same universe, 319 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:26.640 and they're doing these remakes with the rock Star who 320 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:31.880 owns the IP, and that's getting into the production readiness 321 00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:36.000 to full production where they're working on a version that's 322 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:41.039 playable from beginning to end right now. Later when Sam 323 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:44.519 Lake is interviewed. He says that the scope of that 324 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:48.279 project is huge because they're taking those old games and 325 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:51.599 bringing them up to like modern standards and everything else. 326 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:54.559 So that's why that game has taken. Those two games 327 00:17:54.599 --> 00:17:56.839 have taken a little bit longer, and they are still 328 00:17:56.839 --> 00:17:59.400 working on Condor. They have multiple maps and other things 329 00:17:59.720 --> 00:18:03.480 with those. So did you play Ellen Wake two yet? 330 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:08.400 I know I finally played Alan Wake in the last 331 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:12.680 year when Allen Wake two first came out, and with 332 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:15.359 the plan of playing Allen Wake two, I just haven't yet, 333 00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:19.720 hopefully around soon. It is wild to me, though, that 334 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:22.119 that game was so felt like it was so successful 335 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:24.680 when all these awards, so many people talked about it, 336 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:27.799 even though it's usually not one of those styles of 337 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:31.640 games that gets so popular, especially these days. And the 338 00:18:31.720 --> 00:18:35.839 quote is it is almost there too, getting back to 339 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:40.680 breaking even instead of a fantastic sussess it just again, 340 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:43.960 We've talked about it several times, both on this podcast 341 00:18:43.960 --> 00:18:47.359 and just having conversations that that's just kind of where 342 00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:49.759 the landscape of video games is. It's gone too far 343 00:18:50.799 --> 00:18:53.160 in one direction where it's gotten too expensive to make 344 00:18:53.200 --> 00:18:55.880 these things. It takes so long to make these games 345 00:18:55.920 --> 00:18:59.039 that a game that I think all of us would 346 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:02.680 say felt like a success, not only from what people 347 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:04.519 are saying the game played like, but it seemed like 348 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:09.160 it sold well, has not broke even yet. So hopefully 349 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:11.559 we've had all the crazy warning signs, we've laid off 350 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:14.160 enough people in all of these different places, everyone will 351 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:18.039 else scale back and we can get back to games 352 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:21.440 just being games and not these ridiculous, over the top 353 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:25.119 cinematic deals like some games can stay like that, I guess, 354 00:19:25.160 --> 00:19:28.759 but I think Mark was the one that posted something 355 00:19:28.799 --> 00:19:34.079 about rock Stars release schedule and how they had all 356 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:36.079 these games and then in like the last fifteen years 357 00:19:36.119 --> 00:19:39.200 it's been two games because they become so much harder 358 00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:42.039 to make. So it is nice, as you said, this 359 00:19:42.079 --> 00:19:44.839 is really good news. Dallan wakestuff kind of surprises me, 360 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:47.920 but awesome that they are giving Max Pain the love 361 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:51.599 that it deserves. And it does sound like maybe like 362 00:19:51.640 --> 00:19:54.559 the Resident Evil remakes are really pushing people to push 363 00:19:54.599 --> 00:19:56.880 the envelope with those remakes and not just kind of 364 00:19:56.920 --> 00:19:59.440 throw them out and say here, play this old game 365 00:19:59.480 --> 00:20:01.920 again and you can move things around like that. It's 366 00:20:01.960 --> 00:20:05.039 nice to see that control too is getting into that 367 00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:08.319 that playable stage. I'm glad that Remedy is taking their 368 00:20:08.359 --> 00:20:10.400 time with these games. If it was EA, the game 369 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:14.000 would already be out. Yeah, with the release of it's 370 00:20:14.039 --> 00:20:17.200 almost ready to be played. Just just wait for the 371 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:20.720 Madden reviews in a week or two those come out. 372 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:23.640 So yeah, I'm a big fan of Remedy, even though 373 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:26.400 I haven't, like I'm not day one with their games, 374 00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:28.400 but every time I go, all right, I'm gonna play 375 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:30.720 it Alan Wake, I really enjoyed, even though I played 376 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:34.119 it years late. Control I really enjoyed, even though it 377 00:20:34.160 --> 00:20:36.119 took me a year or two to get into that game. 378 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:38.640 So Remedy is becoming more and more of that studio 379 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:41.359 that I'm like, absolutely when they play that game, I 380 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:44.160 have to check in on it and give it a go. 381 00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:46.759 So it's nice to see that they have a lot 382 00:20:46.799 --> 00:20:49.680 of things cooking and they're all progressing the way that 383 00:20:49.720 --> 00:20:50.240 they should be. 384 00:20:50.519 --> 00:20:54.039 Yeah, know only that, but I just it feels like 385 00:20:54.400 --> 00:20:56.839 there's a lot of you can feel the love that's 386 00:20:56.880 --> 00:21:00.920 given to those games, and he gets really make that 387 00:21:01.039 --> 00:21:03.319 in the image that he wants. And then also like, 388 00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:06.200 because those match paying one and two games are technically 389 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:09.680 sort of connected, but you know, they were waited well 390 00:21:09.680 --> 00:21:14.319 before Alan Wake and Control ever worse, so now he 391 00:21:14.359 --> 00:21:19.720 can connect them more if he wanted to, and Easter 392 00:21:19.799 --> 00:21:23.200 egged out. Yeah exactly. I want to see like where 393 00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:25.200 all this is going to go connected. Like I remember 394 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:29.000 playing that awe DLC and then finding out the controlling 395 00:21:29.039 --> 00:21:31.920 Allen way we're connected, and it's my mind being blown. 396 00:21:32.119 --> 00:21:35.839 Was just wow, this they actually connected this and it's 397 00:21:35.960 --> 00:21:37.839 like actually a whole universe thing and it's like so 398 00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:40.799 cool and they made it actually like all kind of 399 00:21:41.160 --> 00:21:44.200 I feel like it works instead of sometimes where the 400 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:50.720 convoluted MCU stuff is. So yeah, I'm excited for the 401 00:21:50.759 --> 00:21:53.079