WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:07.320 Hey, this is time Rush and you you lucky dog. 2 00:00:07.440 --> 00:00:09.759 You're listening to the Doctor Sky Experience. 3 00:00:32.880 --> 00:00:34.799 Hey, Tom, here we go on a long three count 4 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:39.600 in three two one, and welcome back. I'm Steve Kates, 5 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:43.359 Doctor Sky. Welcome to The Doctor Sky Experience, exclusively here 6 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:47.520 on talk radio seventy seven w ABC out of New 7 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:50.880 York City and around the world. Our producer is Richard Dugan. 8 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:54.920 The Doctor Sky Experience offers up great guests from the 9 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:59.039 realms of astronomy, space, aviation, and weather, and also celebrity 10 00:00:59.079 --> 00:01:02.119 guest in the mix about this common sense interviews about 11 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:07.319 American heritage and American exceptionalistm and today, ladies and gentlemen 12 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:09.959 were speaking with a gentleman who really doesn't need an introduction, 13 00:01:10.439 --> 00:01:13.120 but we hear on this particular this show, The Doctor 14 00:01:13.159 --> 00:01:15.959 Sky Experience are proud to have Tom Rush. He's a 15 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:19.799 gifted musician and performer who shows offer a musical celebration, 16 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:23.200 a journey into the tradition and spectrum of what music 17 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:27.680 has been, can be and will become. His distinctive guitar style, 18 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:31.879 rye humor, and warm, expressive voice have made him both 19 00:01:31.879 --> 00:01:35.040 a legend and a lore to audiences around the world. 20 00:01:35.480 --> 00:01:38.400 His shows are filled with the rib aching laughter of 21 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:43.079 terrific storytelling, the sweet melancholy of ballads, and the passion 22 00:01:43.359 --> 00:01:46.480 of the blues. He's also coming for our friends out 23 00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:48.319 here in the western part of the United States as 24 00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:51.000 he travels all over the nation in the world. He'll 25 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:53.879 be coming to the Celebrity Theater here in Phoenix, Arizona, 26 00:01:54.280 --> 00:01:58.200 on November the nineteenth at seventy am. Tom Rush. Welcome 27 00:01:58.319 --> 00:02:01.120 to the Doctor Sky Experience. How are you, my friend? 28 00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:05.040 Thank you doctor. It's good to be here. I'm doing 29 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:07.439 it so much. I'm living the dream. 30 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:10.400 Well, that's exactly what we want to hear from all 31 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:12.439 the guests. With all the turbidity, I know, that's a 32 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:15.680 weird word, the turbulence and turbidity of what's going on 33 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:18.919 here in our nation. What we need, in many people's opinion, 34 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:21.039 is ways to go back to what the Golden rule 35 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:23.719 and what I think puts us all in that expressive 36 00:02:23.759 --> 00:02:27.120 mode is music and music like yourself. And we're so 37 00:02:27.199 --> 00:02:29.080 happy to have you here today to talk a little 38 00:02:29.120 --> 00:02:33.000 bit more about your background. But describing yourself in just 39 00:02:33.080 --> 00:02:36.680 a couple of words, acclaim singer and songwriter is what 40 00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:39.360 comes to mind. So tell us about your background. Let's 41 00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:42.159 go back to the days of what Harvard, Harvard University 42 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:45.520 and the great city of Boston, Massachusetts. 43 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:50.360 Well, I did get my start back there. I hit. 44 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:53.680 I came to Cambridge in the what was it, the 45 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:57.680 fall of fifty nine, before you were born a kid, 46 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:02.120 and there's this really amazing scene going on. And I 47 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:07.039 got roped into hosting a folk music radio show on 48 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:12.000 Harvard's radio station, thirty minute show on I think Wednesday nights. 49 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:14.680 I had to have guests come on and I had 50 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:16.960 so I had to go solicit people to hear on 51 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:19.479 the show. And I go to the hooton Nannies what 52 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:23.319 they called open micspect then, and I discovered you could 53 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:26.520 get in for free if you had a guitar. And 54 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:28.360 then I discovered you could get in for free if 55 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:32.159 you had a guitar case. So I was six back 56 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:34.919 in the guitar case and head out to the hoot 57 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:38.199 Nanny and I got caught one night at a place 58 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:42.240 called the Golden Vanity. It was hey, kid, get on stage. 59 00:03:42.240 --> 00:03:44.599 You got in for nothing. I had to borrow a 60 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:48.039 guitar and got up on stage and did twenty minutes. 61 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:51.639 It was terminally nervous, but apparently did well enough that 62 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:53.960 I owner called me a couple of weeks later and 63 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:57.400 somebody was sick and would I come be a substitute 64 00:03:57.400 --> 00:04:01.840 folk singer. And it's been pretty much down hill ever since. 65 00:04:02.759 --> 00:04:06.639 Wow, pretty amazing. So if you never got in there, 66 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:09.319 this whole story, we wouldn't be doing today. I mean, 67 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:12.639 just about time. Everything happens for a reason, I believe, 68 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:14.840 and some good and some not good in life, but 69 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:17.519 we're always talking about the good, and we're happy to 70 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:21.399 have Tom Rush here, a very gifted musician, singer and songwriter, 71 00:04:21.560 --> 00:04:24.279 telling his story and talking about so many of the 72 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:26.519 things and both you know, folks, obviously, if you follow 73 00:04:26.560 --> 00:04:29.639 this man's music, and hopefully you have, and by this interview, 74 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:32.360 hopefully you'll learn so much more. He is coming once 75 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:35.360 again to the Celebrity Theater in Phoenix November the nineteenth 76 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:39.480 through seven pm performance. Get tickets wherever tickets are sold, 77 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:41.879 and obviously there's so many out there on the internet. 78 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:44.720 But this is fascinating and I want to talk a 79 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:48.199 little bit more about this beyond that particular time. I 80 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:49.959 want to hear a little bit more if you don't mind, sir, 81 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:54.040 about Club forty seven, and exactly the whole genre of 82 00:04:54.079 --> 00:04:56.839 what you've put together here. It's amazing because people can 83 00:04:56.879 --> 00:05:00.040 go to your website simply Tom Rush dot com. I 84 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:01.720 learned so much more about you. But talk about the 85 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:04.519 existence and the whole concept of Club forty seven, I 86 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:05.639 think people would want to hear. 87 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:10.000 That, well, it was a coffee house in my mind 88 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:12.879 it was. There were a lot of folk music establishments 89 00:05:12.879 --> 00:05:17.519 around Boston and Cambridge, but the Club forty seven, in 90 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:21.360 my mind, was the flagship of the fleet, partly because 91 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:23.360 it was one block from my dorm room and it 92 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:27.639 was therefore irresistible. But they were the one place that 93 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:31.720 brought in the legends. Everybody was hosting the local kids, 94 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:36.560 myself included. Club forty seven brought in the people who's 95 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:39.240 seventy eight seat collecting. You could sit in this little 96 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:41.879 It was tiny, it was eighty six at eighty people, 97 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:45.839 but you could listen to the Carter family, Doll Monroe 98 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:48.839 Flat with scrubs on and on. They brought in a 99 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:52.959 lot of the old blues guys, and I adored the blueskuys, 100 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:56.319 partly because I was an English major. But these guys 101 00:05:56.360 --> 00:05:56.560 did this. 102 00:05:57.079 --> 00:05:58.720 Yeah, I was going to ask you, what'd you study 103 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:01.279 in Harvard? So now we know an English major. How cool. 104 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:03.879 I was going to be a biology major at the 105 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:07.279 biology intro course. It's so bad that I had to 106 00:06:07.319 --> 00:06:13.439 switch to something. And Peter Actor, Peter Coyote was a 107 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:16.399 buddy of mine back then before he was Peter Coyote, 108 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:19.720 the actor, and he'll had said, well, English, English is 109 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:23.079 a good background subject for almost anything. So I said, okay, 110 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:27.240 and I signed up to the an English najor. That's 111 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:30.639 partly why I'm a musician today. There's very little, uh, 112 00:06:31.240 --> 00:06:33.800 job opportunities attached to being an English nator. 113 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:39.399 Interesting, so over there, I mean, just give us an 114 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:41.439 example of some of the legends that came to Club 115 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:44.240 forty seven because I was a New Yorker. You know, 116 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:46.720 I'm out here in Arizona now for about thirty four years, 117 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:49.040 but my roots go back to New York City and 118 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:51.000 so many of the different clubs back there. I mean, 119 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:53.279 even in the heyday of what they considered to be 120 00:06:53.319 --> 00:06:54.680 I don't even know if that's the right way to 121 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:58.160 describe the genre punk rock, like CBGB's and all these 122 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:00.959 other clubs in the village. So the history of Club 123 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:03.199 forty seven I mean describe some of the acts that 124 00:07:03.199 --> 00:07:06.000 were playing there, because it sounded like the place to 125 00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:08.439 be if you're into this type of music in this 126 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:09.519 time period, right. 127 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:15.639 Well, Joan BIA's gotter start there, and there was also 128 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:21.079 a very active folks seen in New York City. Dylan 129 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:24.199 came out of came out of New York scene and 130 00:07:24.199 --> 00:07:26.480 those who you know a good deal of cross talk. 131 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:30.920 Tom Paxton, it was just a guest on my online 132 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:36.079 series Rockport Sundays. I was recording him two days ago. 133 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:40.240 But Passon would come up, Van Rock gave and Rock 134 00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:45.680 come up, and Dylan came up to Cambridge and then 135 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:48.240 we would go down there. It was a very different 136 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:51.000 scene though, because in Cambridge there were a lot of 137 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:54.439 amateurs and I mean that in a positive original sense 138 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:58.160 of the word, people who just loved the music, had 139 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:02.879 no intention of a coming professionals. It was a typewriter 140 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:07.759 repairman who was a brilliant high harmony singer and mandolin player. 141 00:08:08.600 --> 00:08:13.720 It was the psychopharmacologist banjo player who was very popular. 142 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:14.879 Amazing. 143 00:08:17.480 --> 00:08:20.839 Yeah, these people had no intention of you know, getting 144 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:23.839 matching suits and going on the road. They just love 145 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:27.000 to play music. And in the I think the New 146 00:08:27.079 --> 00:08:32.159 York scene was much more professionally oriented. People didn't, you know, 147 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:38.480 on their way to establishing careers. Anyway, some of the 148 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:42.840 people that played there, let's see, Judy Collins played there. 149 00:08:42.879 --> 00:08:46.840 That the people I just mentioned, Furder Family, Flatten, Sdrugs, 150 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:50.679 Go Monroe, some of the blues guys Sleepy, John Estes, 151 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:56.159 book A White. I'm trying to think a lot of 152 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:57.799 a lot of the blues guys played there. 153 00:08:58.840 --> 00:09:01.000 It's an amazing story. I mean, Tom, this is so 154 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:04.080 incredible because when we look at the story of your 155 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:08.720 life here Harvard, they're studying what Yeah, you're moving on 156 00:09:08.759 --> 00:09:11.480 to your real talents. Lie obviously, I mean no doubt 157 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:14.279 about it in this whole musical area. Because here what 158 00:09:14.279 --> 00:09:15.879 I'm about to say to the audience, I think it's 159 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:20.120 pretty powerful. How long was it before you got decided, 160 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:22.759 you know, to play there at the club and then 161 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:25.320 the time that you signed or were signed by Electra 162 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:28.399 Records in nineteen sixty five. I mean, that's pretty amazing. 163 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:31.399 How long were you at forty seven before Electra signed it? 164 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:32.399 Was it like pretty quick? 165 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:38.279 No, it actually wasn't. I was before I actually graduated 166 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:40.600 at the club forty seven. They were pretty picky about 167 00:09:40.600 --> 00:09:45.799 who they hired. Yew I was playing, played a lot 168 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:48.519 of the places around town, but there was a place 169 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:52.519 called the Unicorn that was in Boston, and some guy 170 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:55.000 came in and said, you want to make a record? 171 00:09:56.039 --> 00:09:56.240 Yeah? 172 00:09:56.360 --> 00:09:56.600 Wow. 173 00:09:56.639 --> 00:09:59.399 His name was Dan Dan Flickingser, and I'd heard this before, 174 00:09:59.440 --> 00:10:02.600 and I didn't it really seriously, I said, okay. He 175 00:10:02.720 --> 00:10:05.919 actually showed up with this tape recorder the size of 176 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:09.600 a washing machine and logged it down the steps into 177 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:13.960 the Unicorn, and he recorded two nights, and I remembered 178 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:18.399 him telling me it was unethical, morally indefensible to intercut 179 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:20.559 between the two nights. He couldn't take the first verse 180 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:22.759 from nine one and the second verse from night two, 181 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:25.600 and really later is because he didn't know how to 182 00:10:25.720 --> 00:10:29.480 edit tape. But I was, you know, all of a sudden, 183 00:10:29.559 --> 00:10:33.519 I had an LP and nobody else did, and somehow 184 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:36.279 that made that made a difference. I was somehow more 185 00:10:36.639 --> 00:10:41.720 more legitimate. I don't know. But then what happened was 186 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:45.879 that Vanguard and Prestige came to town and started signing 187 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:49.440 up everybody except me, and I didn't, you know, I 188 00:10:49.440 --> 00:10:52.279 didn't have a real record deal. This guy was distributing 189 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:55.360 me Live at the Unicorn LP out of the backseat 190 00:10:55.399 --> 00:11:00.480 of a studebaker, and I think we sold all the league, 191 00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:06.360 maybe three hundred copies. But finally Paul Rothschild was working 192 00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:10.000 for a Prestige. He signed me after Prestige, did two 193 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:12.279 albums for them, and then moved over to Electure. 194 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:15.360 Well it's interesting. I mean, you lived it. I'm just 195 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:17.919 reading this and I'm fascinated by this, and I'm sure 196 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:21.519 our listeners are signed by Electure. In sixty five he 197 00:11:21.639 --> 00:11:23.919 made three albums for them, culminating, as you know, in 198 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:27.240 the Circle Game, which, according to Rolling Stone, what ushered 199 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:30.360 in the singer songwriter era. So that's amazing. I mean, 200 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:33.559 your place in history in this is fairly well documented, 201 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:36.039 well deserved, and it's always a privilege in honor to 202 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:39.200 talk to the people that make the music scene happen here. 203 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:42.159 So congratulations on that. I mean, even though it's in 204 00:11:42.200 --> 00:11:44.039 the in the history of the past there, it's just 205 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:45.080 an amazing story. 206 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:48.720 Well, and you know, ushering in the singers, ushering in 207 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:52.000 the singer songwriters thing was because that Circle Game album 208 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:56.039 was the first time anybody had recorded Joni Mitchell, James 209 00:11:56.039 --> 00:11:57.360 Taylor or Jackson Brown. 210 00:11:58.279 --> 00:11:59.399 Wow, so these. 211 00:11:59.240 --> 00:12:03.480 Three brilliant writers were introduced in this one project. I 212 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:07.840 wasn't trying to ushered in anything or for discover anybody. 213 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:11.200 I was just basically looking for good songs. 214 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:13.919 Well as evidence to that here, I mean, here's a 215 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:17.440 quote and you know it well. Quote Tom was not 216 00:12:17.600 --> 00:12:20.639 the only one of my early heroes, but also one 217 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:23.679 of my main influences. End quote James Taylor. I mean, 218 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:26.559 what powerful stuff is that? I mean, God bless you. 219 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:29.360 I mean your your humility comes across here. But that's 220 00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:33.240 a great accomplishment in this particular genre of music. But 221 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.519 I want to ask you this, if you described to 222 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:40.720 us in this particular episode Doctor Sky Experience singer songwriter. 223 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:44.960 This is so interesting because you mentioned Bob Dylan, Woody Guthrie. 224 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:48.200 Here we talked about Joni Mitchell, Hank Williams, Paul Simon, 225 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:52.039 James Taylor. Of course, I'm understood that even David Crosby, 226 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:54.399 who was a singer songwriter then he crossed over to 227 00:12:54.440 --> 00:12:57.559 the rock genre. But tell us a little more, what's 228 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:01.960 the what's this inspiration for singer songwriter? I mean, I'm 229 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:04.159 not a music person, but I love to listen to it. 230 00:13:04.200 --> 00:13:06.039 And I love to listen, like many people, to so 231 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:09.240 many bands and acts. But from your experience, Tom, how 232 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:13.879 would you define singer songwriter In your experience, it's just amazing. 233 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:17.559 Well, it's you know, I think it's it's something that's 234 00:13:17.639 --> 00:13:26.720 evolved Before James Jackson and Jony Ah, most most big 235 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:29.720 stars didn't write their own songs. See, you know, other 236 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:33.600 people wrote the songs that they performed and made into hits. 237 00:13:34.120 --> 00:13:39.799 And starting with with those three, singer songwriter became a thing. 238 00:13:40.600 --> 00:13:43.960 I wasn't actually much as a singer songwriter, although that 239 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:48.519 that album Circle Game album did contain probably my most 240 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:53.600 covered song, didn't call No Regrets. It's been done by 241 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:59.200 by you two and Carl Nomel and a lot of 242 00:13:59.240 --> 00:14:02.759 a lot of people. I've recorded it. Put my first 243 00:14:02.799 --> 00:14:03.879 three kids to college. 244 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:06.039 Wow. 245 00:14:06.879 --> 00:14:11.039 But I actually started writing more songs lately. I've written 246 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:13.200 more songs in the past ten years, and I did 247 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:16.519 in the first fifty and my latest album, which is 248 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:19.440 called Voices, I think it's my best work and it's 249 00:14:19.480 --> 00:14:22.600 all songs that I wrote myself, which has never happened. 250 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:25.279 Before, right, and a new song nothing but a man 251 00:14:25.360 --> 00:14:27.799 I mean. But in this particular interview here on the 252 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:30.879 Doctor's Sky Experience. I want the audience to hear this, 253 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:34.000 and I'm taking liberty to read something here because these 254 00:14:34.039 --> 00:14:36.519 are your words. But what I'm trying to get at 255 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:38.120 here in a moment, I'd like to ask you to 256 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:41.759 describe the feeling and what the meaning behind No Regrets is. 257 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:44.720 But here we go, and you know the words by heart. 258 00:14:44.879 --> 00:14:49.879 I know you're livin's too long, overdue, too far, too long. 259 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:53.279 I've had nothing new to show you. Goodbye, dry Eyes. 260 00:14:53.320 --> 00:14:57.519 I watched your plane fade off west the moon, and 261 00:14:57.559 --> 00:15:01.399 it felt so strange to walk away alone. So obviously 262 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:03.480 as I read this, and I won't read all the lyrics, 263 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:05.320 because what we're gonna do is we're gonna actually play 264 00:15:06.360 --> 00:15:10.600 this version of your amazing song. Here songwriter Tom rushes 265 00:15:10.759 --> 00:15:14.000 No Regrets an audience. I'd like them to hear this, 266 00:15:14.159 --> 00:15:16.240 and then i'd like to have you describe a little 267 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:20.879 bit more about the meaning of this particular song, No Regrets. 268 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:22.639 So here we go, folks are going to play that. 269 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:52.320 I know you're leaving too long. O we do for 270 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:56.200 far too long, and I've had nothing new to show 271 00:15:56.360 --> 00:16:07.600 to you. Goodbye, dry Eyes. I watched you play fade 272 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:16.080 off wisdom, and it felt so strange to walk away along. 273 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:29.000 It's no regrets, no. 274 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:34.960 Tears, goodbye, don't want you back. 275 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:50.480 We only cried again, say goodbye again. 276 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:08.160 The hours of yours echoll like empty rooms, the thoughts 277 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:09.079 we used to share. 278 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:19.799 I now keep alone. I woke last night and spoke 279 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:20.240 to you. 280 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:28.319 I'm not thinking you were gone, and it felt so strange. 281 00:17:31.000 --> 00:17:32.160 To lie awake along. 282 00:17:39.839 --> 00:17:50.839 There's no regrets, no tears, goodbye, don't want you back. 283 00:17:54.640 --> 00:18:15.640 We only cried high again, say goodbye again, dark friends 284 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:25.000 of dad, to turn my nights to day, strange faces 285 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:25.720 in your place. 286 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:28.759 Can't keep the ghosts. 287 00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:40.599 Away now, just beyond the darkest hour, just behind the dawn. 288 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:53.440 It still feels so strange to lead my life alone. 289 00:18:56.240 --> 00:19:07.079 There's no regrets, no tears, good bye, don't want you back. 290 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:20.039 Lead only cry again, say good bye. 291 00:19:31.359 --> 00:19:33.200 Well that was great. I'm glad that we had a 292 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:35.000 chance to play. But let's talk a little bit more 293 00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:36.720 about the meaning of these words. I mean, may I 294 00:19:36.759 --> 00:19:39.000 ask you, is that a personal tragedy in your life 295 00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:42.359 about love? Or is this some compilation that you pulled 296 00:19:42.359 --> 00:19:45.480 together from other people who've had heartache? I mean heartaches 297 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:48.680 everywhere but hopefully we come out of it and we 298 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:50.640 feel better about oursel's. 299 00:19:50.319 --> 00:19:55.000 Actually an extrapolation from a real life experience. Okay, I 300 00:19:55.000 --> 00:19:58.480 had a girlfriend, girlfriend from New York named Juel Lumberton, 301 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:03.160 and I met her in New York, and she actually 302 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:06.720 flew up to Cambridge, flew up to Boston and spent 303 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:10.440 the weekend with me. I never spent that many days 304 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:13.640 and nice than anybody before. And I took her on 305 00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:16.480 Monday morning, took her back out to Logan Airport and 306 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:19.519 put her on a plane, and it flew away, and 307 00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:23.720 it felt kind of strange being alone. And from that 308 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:26.519 I just extrapolated it into being the end of a 309 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:30.680 long relationship, which in fact happened and came true and 310 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:35.000 we didn't break up after some years. Sure, but it 311 00:20:35.039 --> 00:20:39.400 was imaginary. The first first iteration of it was be 312 00:20:39.519 --> 00:20:42.880 thinking about, well it could feel like this this and 313 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:44.079 that happened. 314 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:49.079 Sure. Wow. And the last words, as you know them 315 00:20:49.119 --> 00:20:51.640 by heart. I'm just going and letting the audience hear 316 00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:55.440 this and please comment. I have no regrets, no tears, goodbye, 317 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:59.759 don't want you back. We'd only cry again, say goodbye again. 318 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:04.240 I mean, wow, the end of an experience but that's 319 00:21:04.279 --> 00:21:08.480 powerful stuff. And then let's pony off of that that 320 00:21:08.759 --> 00:21:11.599 so many other people in the music industry, what have 321 00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:14.480 done iterations of this particular song. Give us an example 322 00:21:14.519 --> 00:21:16.960 of some of the people who've done their version of 323 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:21.160 Tom Rush's No Regrets. It's understandable that there's many people 324 00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:23.519 who've picked up on this and what's so great? What 325 00:21:23.559 --> 00:21:26.880 a high honor to have someone who's written something and 326 00:21:27.079 --> 00:21:30.400 in your original version. There's been iterations of that that 327 00:21:30.519 --> 00:21:33.839 also have what a different tone, a different sound, but 328 00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:35.680 the meaning of the world. 329 00:21:35.720 --> 00:21:42.119 There have been heavy metal versions have recorded No Regrets 330 00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:48.720 include Lee Hazelwood and Margaret Waylawn Jennings, Olivia Newton, John 331 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:54.240 Shirley Bassey, Emmy Lou Harris, Robbie Williams. I'm not sure 332 00:21:54.279 --> 00:22:00.519 who that is. The Walker Brothers in England a huge 333 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:05.559 shit with it. That was what put myents through college. Hazelwood, 334 00:22:05.799 --> 00:22:09.079 Midge you were who had a band called Ultrabox heavy metal. 335 00:22:09.640 --> 00:22:10.319 Heard about it. 336 00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:14.759 He did. Midge did it. That heavy metal version of 337 00:22:14.839 --> 00:22:17.319 No Regrets is so ponderous. He could only get two 338 00:22:17.400 --> 00:22:21.279 verses into an eight minute cut. And then there was 339 00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:24.000 some rap group and I can't think of their name. 340 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:27.079 They had a big hit with No Regrets, which I 341 00:22:27.079 --> 00:22:29.960 did not recognize. Somebody played it for me. Why are 342 00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:32.559 you playing this? What is it? Don't you know? Don 343 00:22:32.599 --> 00:22:33.480 it's no regrets? 344 00:22:34.400 --> 00:22:37.480 No why I'm rush old me? 345 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:42.640 And you too actually used to use the chorus in 346 00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:46.400 some of their stage shows for a while. There was 347 00:22:46.440 --> 00:22:49.200 an extra zero on my royalty statement that year. 348 00:22:50.440 --> 00:22:52.599 Well well deserved. And also I want to share with 349 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:55.799 the audience here in our time today. You obviously returned 350 00:22:55.839 --> 00:22:57.759 with a big splash back in nineteen eighty one. Here 351 00:22:57.799 --> 00:23:02.799 we go folks selling out Boston's prestigious Symphony Hall. Describe that, 352 00:23:02.920 --> 00:23:05.559 I mean, that's no easy thing to do, and certainly 353 00:23:05.599 --> 00:23:08.680 a place like that. I mean you have people who 354 00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:12.000 know that, great performers there. I mean, what a great 355 00:23:12.039 --> 00:23:15.160 experience is. Describe that to this audience, to the even 356 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:16.240 to this day of the stories. 357 00:23:16.319 --> 00:23:19.039 Well, that was the start of a series. I actually 358 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:23.920 I actually own the name Club forty seventies Days and 359 00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:27.880 I do shows under that banner. I say that the 360 00:23:27.880 --> 00:23:30.720 theme of the shows is basically, there are a couple 361 00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:34.559 of established artists, myself being one, and then a couple 362 00:23:34.599 --> 00:23:39.039 of newcomers, brilliant people that you've never heard of, and 363 00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:44.680 I basically browbeat everybody into playing with one another. And 364 00:23:46.640 --> 00:23:49.880 the shows are a lot of fun. But I've done them. 365 00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:53.880 I've helped to introduce a whole lot of pull out 366 00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:57.759 of young artists and hopefully it's been helpful to them. 367 00:23:58.160 --> 00:24:02.240 But absolutely the series, it's been Anthony Holland Boston, an 368 00:24:02.279 --> 00:24:04.240 annual thing for a while that I've most have done 369 00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:08.480 it Carnegie Hall in New York and Kennedy Center in Washington, 370 00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:13.640 d C. And a bunch of leathers, resubstantial venues. 371 00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:18.279 It's a great story, Tom, But let's ask this question 372 00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:20.400 as this radio show is heard around the nation, the 373 00:24:20.440 --> 00:24:23.799 Doctor Sky Experience. We're here on talk radio seventy seven 374 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:26.480 WABC at a New York City and around the world. 375 00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:29.440 I of course hailed from Phoenix, Arizona, but an original 376 00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:31.640 New Yorker. But this isn't about me. It's about you. 377 00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:34.400 Describe what people can expect when they come to the 378 00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:39.000 concert on November the nineteenth, Celebrity Theater. A great opportunity 379 00:24:39.039 --> 00:24:41.799 to experience your music not only in the past, but 380 00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:45.720 also the present and learn so much more about the 381 00:24:46.440 --> 00:24:49.839 thing that you have called Sundays. What the whole program 382 00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:53.240 that you do for Sundays. That's amazing, poscribal. 383 00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:56.160 So let's talk let's talk about the Celebrity Theater. Well, also, 384 00:24:56.480 --> 00:24:59.279 the same show will be in Tucson the next night. 385 00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:05.200 The Celebrity Theater is actually headlined by Dave Mason and 386 00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:09.359 Al Stewart, and I are going to support mister Mason, 387 00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:13.319 so it should be fun. I've worked I've not worked 388 00:25:13.359 --> 00:25:16.400 with the Day before, but Al and I have done 389 00:25:16.839 --> 00:25:19.920 a bunch of shows together over the years, and he's 390 00:25:19.960 --> 00:25:22.279 a treat. I'm looking very much looking forward to it. 391 00:25:23.079 --> 00:25:28.400 You know. Uh, the the online series you're referring to 392 00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:33.680 is called Rockport Sundays. Or urge your listeners to go 393 00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:36.319 to Tim Rush dot com and there's but and right 394 00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:39.799 steering in the face you can click the Rockport Sundays 395 00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:43.440 has been a series I started back at the beginning 396 00:25:43.519 --> 00:25:48.119 of the pandemic when I didn't have any shows. I said, well, okay, 397 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:49.759 I'm going to do. Here's what I'm gonna do. I'm 398 00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:52.559 gonna do a song and a story. This is video. 399 00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:57.039 I've got very professional video and audio guys helping me. 400 00:25:57.960 --> 00:26:00.759 But I'm sitting in my kitchen sing you a song 401 00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:04.319