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Speaker 1: What is going on, Clippers fans? It is me William

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Updyke here with clips and ditt We're coming at you

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Season three, episode forty seven. I hope that's right. If

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you didn't notice, Charles isn't here. But we're gonna talk

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about the Clippers putting away a couple of good wins

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after we were worried about them limp beating into the

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All Star Break. We're talking about the new additions in

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Bogie and Ben Simmons, and then just talk a little

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bit about the All Star break. Who needs this rest

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the most? What we want to see from the Clippers

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coming out of the All Star Break, And we're gonna

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look a little bit at their schedule too, which is

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a little grueling if you're looking at it. I'm joined

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by Adam Oslin. Adam, I see you're in your car.

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It's a beautiful day. How are you doing man?

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Speaker 2: Speaking of things looking grueling? No, it is a beautiful

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day out, so I thought i'd pod from the car.

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I'm excited to Clippers here. It is day two of

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the All Star Break, oram Palace on the three point

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contest tonight, but we got to review what's been happening

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then over the past week and just you know, going

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from losing three games to winning three games row heading

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into the All Star Break.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a it's quite the change of fate. Uh. Well,

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let's talk about this because we had a couple of

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couple of good wins here, big win over the Jallis

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Grizzlies one fourteen. Kawhi I think was probably most notable

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in this one. He came out with twenty five, five

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and four. Not as efficient as we're used to, but

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I think if you if you go back and look

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at all the shots that he took, it's very it's

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very much like the Kawhi kind of highlight reel. He's

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getting to his normal spots. He seems to be moving. Uh,

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he seems to be moving really really well. We talked

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in our last the last time all three of us

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were together about some of the concerns about Kawhi. Did

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this do anything to a sage any of your fears?

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What were you seeing from uh from the claw on

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this one?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Is this a sage or a swage? Because I've

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been saying a suaye forever? So am I dumbass here?

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Speaker 1: I don't know you're asking the wrong person.

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Speaker 2: Well, I did think it was a good perform Ormans

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by Kawhi. It did quell some of my fears because

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the three days off were significant. You wanted to see

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how he looked after three days off, after he'd been

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playing every other day for eighteen days. So it kind

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of told us he was a little bit gassed out

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there because he was moving noticeably different against the Memphis Grizzlies.

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And I'll say this, I think he missed his first

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three shots, so what was he nine for sixteen or

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something like that after that, So he kind of got

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some misses out of his system early. He got a

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lot of good looks that still just didn't fall for him.

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But it's all about the movement the gate. Does he

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look like he's fluid out there? And I think Kawhi Leonard, Yeah,

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he put a lot of that stuff to rest and

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that's all I wanted to see. That was huge.

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Speaker 1: He finally hit that three and then he ended out

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his first shift there on kind of a little heater

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and yeah, so he definitely got the misses out of

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his system early. What about from the defensive end? Are

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you feeling? And it is assuage by the way I'm

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the dumbass, not you, So.

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Speaker 2: It could probably go both ways, right Tomato Tobado.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm probably wrong here, but go ahead

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and get at us pronunciation enthusiast in the chat. What defensively,

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because I feel like that was that was your beer

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concern really, right, Like, despite some of the offensive struggles,

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you thought the way he was moving defensively looked notably different.

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You bring up the fatigue. What were you seeing in

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this one? Is he looking better on both ends of

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the floor?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he looked pretty good defensively. There were

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still some rotations and little things that if you're nitpicking

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and focusing in on one guy, you might see that

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with anyone, even some of the best defenders in their prime.

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Murray asked him postgame about how would you grade yourself defensively,

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and Kawhi kind of threw it back at him and

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then talked about, how, you know, I'm still learning Jeff

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Van Gundy's system. It's a process right now. But I

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think overall, all the numbers say they are much better

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with him on the floor, not just offensively, where they

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are like ten points per one hundred possessions better, but

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even on the defensive.

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Speaker 1: End, so mind blowing stuff that they yeah.

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Speaker 2: Better with kawhile I just some people were still skeptical that, well,

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they're so good defensively this season, any drop off could

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be problematic. But Kawhi, he only strengthened strength for you,

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so as long as he's moving well out there, and

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just having more of his win because the minutes have

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been going up while he was playing more games, So

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it was very understandable that it could only be or

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that it very likely would be just him not having

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the gas in the tank, and then he had more

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after three days off. So for me, that's all I

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Speaker 1: I think, especially with like losing all the weight, I

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think there's there there was bound to be a bit

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of an adjustment period there too, because like you're stamming

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and everything is different. Overall, I think it's great. I

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love that he's like the leanest we've seen him in years,

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but I do think that there might have been a

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very real and it could still be ongoing, like sort

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of an issue with some of the stamina stuff.

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Speaker 2: That's a good point because just because you are leaner

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doesn't necessarily mean you have better cardio. Like you're changing

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your diet or eating less calories. Your body does have

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to adjust to that. As someone who wants attempted to

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get to ten percent body fat before the Clipper season started,

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I know a little bit about this.

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Speaker 1: Did you put that one to bed? Is that over? Now?

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Speaker 2: It's over until I hit my mark that i'mo'd be

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like I made it. I did it, and a span

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of it'll be some awkward goal like you know, I

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was just trying to do it within like a two

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year stretch. So I finally got there. I met my goal.

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You guys didn't know what my goal was.

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Speaker 1: Clippers Western Conference Finals appearance or ten percent body fat?

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Speaker 2: Why can't it be both? Probably with the way I've

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been eating the last couple of weeks, I've been in

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a bad place basically since Christmas. So Clippers Western Conference Finals, peirers,

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I'll go there more like all right?

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Speaker 1: Uh So we gotta talk about Chris Dunn. He was

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back in the starting lineup in this one. He was

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tied with Kwhi for a team best plus twenty five

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in those minutes fourteen, three and five on some nuts

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shooting splits eighty three percent from the field one hundred

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percent from three. I'm curious what you thought, like, is

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this a return to form for him? We've talked so

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many times on the show. I feel like about the

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law of averages, Like, yes, he's a low thirty shooter,

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and so that means that he's gonna have stretches where

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he goes what did he go at one point one

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for twenty one or something like that, and then he'll

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have like one hundred percent night performance to boost this up.

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What did you think of him being back in the

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starting lineup? Are you a fan still of this rotating thing?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Could this be a step in the right direction for

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Chris don Like is he getting to where we'd need

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Speaker 2: I mean, for a second, I thought they were very

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quietly phasing out the rotating positional thing with him in DETA.

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Speaker 1: You would hope though, too, right?

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Speaker 2: I yeah, But you know I did say initially, if

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there are two guys who can make this work, because

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DJ was really good off the bench in that game,

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it is DJ and Chris Donne, because they're willing to

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sacrifice because they do the little things out there, and

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matter what their role is. I was happy to see

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him because I think going into that performance where he

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was four or four from three against Memphis, Chris Dunn

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was two for his last twenty three from the outside,

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and I ran the numbers after the game, and just

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going four to four in one game from three raised

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his three point percentage from thirty percent to thirty two

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percent on the season. Go so a lot of averages. Baby,

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He's back where he's at as a career shooter basically

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from three now. He went zero of one against Utah

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the very next game, but obviously not high volume there.

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point shooting, and maybe that played into his overall game

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because he's knocking down shots, more confident out there, but

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the five steals, he was so disruptive and it did

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the starting lineup or playing for the Memphis Grizzlies. It

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wasn't like they were gonna go, okay, we're going back

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to DJ now twenty minutes before the game starts. They

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were gonna stick with that. But that does make sense

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to play him against a team like the Memphis Grizzlies

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to have him back on the starting lineup, and it

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played out that way. So I don't know. I guess

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of it not working where they're rotating him in DJ.

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Who again, DJ very good off the bench his first

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time in a while, and he looked good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Another guy I want to give a shout

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out to a mere Coffee had like a great offensive

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out pouring in this one. Fourteen points he got. He

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got to the line seven times and shot one hundred

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percent from there, so that was great to see. Also,

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pretty good debut from Bogdon. We're not gonna go too

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into depth right there right about this right now, because

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bit more about what we've seen from the new guys

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so far. But let's move on to this overtime thriller

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versus the Jazz Clippers pulled this one out in overtime,

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they were down twenty points, ended up winning that one

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one one sixteen. I mean, the highlight of this game

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has got to just be the offensive heroics of Norm

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and Harden. Right, Harden finished with thirty two in this

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one and Norm had forty one, shooting fifty percent from

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the floor. What was it like? Was it just back

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against the wall? Need a win for the All Star Break? Like?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: This is the best duel like offensive outing we've seen

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from both of them together in a while. What were

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you seeing there? Is this replicable?

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Speaker 2: Hey, not to mention the offensive heroics of Ben Simmons doubling.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get to it. We're going to get

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to it. I said the highlight.

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Speaker 2: Okay, James Harden playing fifty minutes basically on the second

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night of a back to back is just insane and

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waving off the coach trying to bring him out of

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the ballgame. He plays the entire second half into overtime.

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He is a badass. He's an absolute tank. He is

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one of the more reliable players at this age in

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an NBA career that we've ever seen. Just taking on

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the minute slow and.

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Speaker 1: Have a problem with this guy you know what I mean, Like,

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I just feel like he has such a bad reputation,

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like as a teammate and like player and worker, and

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I feel like it's one of those bizarre narratives where like,

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if you've ever had him on your team, the man

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is trying to play as many positions in every single

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possible game.

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Speaker 2: And you know, maybe late bloomer when it comes to maturity,

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and maybe some of those issues were real. But give

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him credit because he's been awesome as a Clipper. All

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I care about is how he's played with this organization.

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I'm not worried about whatever perceived baggage there was before

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because he has been perfect for them this season, especially

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starting with the offseason workouts. He held them privately in Arizon,

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getting all the guys together, and then just leading by

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example on the court, making sure that he is still

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the system with having that responsibility of having to score

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out there while also setting up everyone. But that game

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just epitomized him being the MVP of this team this season.

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There are a lot of guys who've been great. You

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can make the argument for Norm, you can make the

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argument for Vitzuzubas, but I'm still going with James Harden,

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even though the efficiency numbers haven't been there as much

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when you look at somebody in his min thirties doing

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as much as he is tasked with, I just feel

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like everything else is more reliant on James Harden than

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he is on those other variables and factors from players

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out there. It starts with James Harden. And for him

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to have those ten points in the fourth quarter after

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they were down by nine, hitting into the fourth quarter,

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they don't get into overtime without him big shots and

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I don't know, I just him pulling them through at

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normOn Pall, obviously in overtime, really pulling them through at

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the very end. That was one of the best performances

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of the season, easily, even against Utah. I mean the

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Lakers had just lost to them the night before in

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Utah that they easily could have had a foot out

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the door. They could have said, hey, we just beat

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this team by twenty back into it home last Saturday

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less than a week ago. They didn't have a letdown.

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I don't know how'd you feel about that one and

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where it ranks on the season, will because I thought

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that was one of the best victories.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean anytime you're getting a twenty point comeback,

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especially if you're a team like this that struggles so

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much offensively, you know, it's a massive win. The all

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around performance from James was nuts because he still added

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ten assists and seven boards to the scoring there. And

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because as you brought up the minutes load and the

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second night of a back to back, where in the

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first night against the Grizzlies, it's not like Harden and

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how were non factors do just relatively quiet nights for

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both of them. So knowing that you're coming into a

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long break, like, it's like you said, it just be

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very easy to check out. It'd be very easy to

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have one foot out the door. And even as like

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a fan and someone who covers this team all the time,

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I'd be like, it's kind of understandable, you know, at

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the last game before the break, but for them to

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like really put their foot on the gas to get

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this one out, I mean, yeah, it's a huge win

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and a huge thing. I just think that we were

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all concerned about was limping into the All Star break,

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Like it's just not a good look. It's not a

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good feeling, and for them to go into the Aulstar

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break with the three game winning streak, it's just drastically

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kind of different than where I thought we might be,

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say a week ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so many people after the three game losing

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streak were saying, Oh, we didn't do enough at the

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trade deadline. This team is run out of gas, they're cooked.

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This is that turning point. Maybe Kawhi is not helping,

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he's actually hurting this team. All the sky is following

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stuff I had heard has been put to bed now

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because of the way they played the last three games.

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Even when they weren't their best, they still found ways

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to win. Because they're down twenty in the first half.

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I think it was fifty to thirty in that game

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in Utah. Then they're down sixteen with four minutes left

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in the third quarter, they had every reason to say

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it's not our night, it's not gonna happen. Unfortunately, we

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are hitting the wall at the wrong time, right before

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the All Star break, and instead they say, no, we're

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gonna get this one out. We're just going to find

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a way to win. I think in past years they

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lose a game like that, So what showed their Will

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It showed their mental toughness out there, so great.

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Speaker 1: A great couple of wins for the Clippers. Great to

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go into the All Star Break on a three game

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win streak. Coming up next, we're gonna talk the new

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editions in Bogie and Ben Simmons. So yeah, there's gonna

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. In It's Clips and Dips Season three, episode

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forty seven, I'm a a Maslin. We got Will Updyke,

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no chef Mockler. But a lot to get into with

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these new Clipper here.

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Speaker 1: First, you gotta address things are gonna look different. What

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do you mean where are you? What happened? Your car

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turned into a studio.

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Speaker 2: It's just changed the green screen.

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Speaker 1: Oftimus Prime over there inside.

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Speaker 2: The car, auto bots transform and roll out. Yeah. I

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had to go into work because I was having some

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connectivity issues here with my g damn phone in the

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hotspot I was using that was very much ineffective. So

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I came into the office. We are back on. This

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is how hard we work for you guys to make

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sure you got a new episode of Clips and Dip.

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Let's talk about some hard work and new clippers here. First, Bogie,

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he's played two games Ben just one against the Utah Jazz.

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But Bo, Don, Bobdanovich, your early takeaways from one of

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your newest clippers here will I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, I thought, offensively, he looked really good versus the Grizzlies.

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I believe he was a team worse minus ten, but

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I'd have to go back and like look at those

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lineups and what was going on there. But he is

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incredibly efficient. Seventy five percent from a floor, fifty percent

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from three looked really comfortable and confident. Honestly, similar numbers

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against the Jazz seven to one and two, so you know,

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he's like basically identical. The shooting splits from this looked

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a lot worse. He was three of ten from the floor,

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is just one of six from three. He did add

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three steals in that one, which I think is something

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interesting to think about, is like how he's going to

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fit into the defensive plan for everything. I guess the

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shooting thing. I feel like we've talked about this with

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other Clippers before, like it's it's been so bad this season.

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Then you know, again back to the law of averages,

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I have no choice but to believe that it's it's

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going to be better. I just don't think that it's

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going to continue at the rate that it has all

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season long. But you know, I think that just having

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another guy out there who you have to respect on

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the floor, and I think even in his current shooting

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slump on the season, I don't think that most defenses

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are playing to it averages. I still think they're depending

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on who was on the floor obviously, but they're still

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going to respect him as a shooter. And we just

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need another guy who can kind of move around off

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ball and just kind of open things up a little

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bit more. What have you seen so far? What do

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you think about the shooting splits? And then how do

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you think he fits into this defensive identity for the Clippers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't put a ton into him only shooting

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thirty percent from the outside with Atlanta this season, because

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he only took one hundred and forty six threes like

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the year before he took six hundred and forty one. Oh,

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We're talking about a guy who typically is at a

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much higher volume than this, and I just don't think

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it's obviously not indicative of who he's been throughout his career.

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He's a thirty eight percent right on the dot three

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point shooter his career average. I think, you know, maybe

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he won't get back to there, maybe he'll only be

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thirty seven percent or thirty six percent. But he's not

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going to shoot thirty percent the rest of the season

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with the Clippers, I don't believe, as long as he

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gets a healthy amount of three balls up. And his

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first shot in this first make with the Clippers was

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a three on like a slip screen on I think

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the right wing in that game against Memphis, off a

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pass maybe from James Harden. But I've liked the activity,

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I've liked the movement. I've always liked the player, and

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I think this Clippers team has had a need there

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because the three point shooting was way down. Over like

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a fifteen game stretch, they were shooting thirty three percent

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from the outside. Now over the last ten they're shooting

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almost thirty seven percent from three. Obviously a lot of

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that has to do with Kawhi Leonard being out there

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and not necessarily what he's been shooting from three, but

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the gravity, the spacing, all that stuff helps, and I

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think Bogie can help in those areas too. He's another

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floor spacer, and even though he wasn't knocking down shots

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at a high rate against Utah, he was one of

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the guys that was between him and Chris Dunn rotating

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out in that game late against the Utah Jazz. So

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coach Lou already trusts him as he should. He's a vet.

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I'm a big Bogie balls, so I'm expecting good things

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with him in a Clipper's uniform.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And then I mean this segues into the other edition,

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Ben Simmons, who through one game I think is overachieved,

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even for the Ben Simmons optimists. I think he even

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for you, yeah, even for me. Yeah. He played twenty

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seven minutes in his first game as a Clipper, finished

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with twelve seven and six, added three steals in a

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block he was four or five from the floor. And

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I think the thing that's like most significant to me

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is I loved the shot profile, like I loved where

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they were getting him. You know, he got to the

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rim a couple of times on his own, which was

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great to see that that that sort of like athleticism

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is still there and just like the confidence and drive,

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because I do think I do think the confidence and

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like the mental game was a huge took a huge

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step back for him obviously, you know, having a back

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injury and that that sort of stuff being so sort

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of mercurial and up in the air doesn't ever help.

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But seeing him confident to get to the rim, I

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thought was great. I loved I belie his first made

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bucket as a Clipper was an oop from James Harden

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wherein he kind of a seven foot man kind of

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snuck behind the defense. If you if you go back

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and look at the clip, he's literally like kind of

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crouched down, like literally like slow creeping towards the rim,

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behind the defense. And I think that that is going

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to play as a huge Clippers strength. Defenses are going

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to ignore him. That'll change obviously in the playoffs. That

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will change if he continues to perform the way he does,

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but that like it is going to be a very

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real thing where he is not going to be watched

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as much, especially off ball, and I think that, you know,

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obviously he's not going to be a shooter. I'm not

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expecting anything like that from him, but just him being

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able to get those sort of cuts. Him being able

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to get behind a defense I think is great. We

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also saw him used in sort of the short role

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at how they kind of use Zoo and he had

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those you know, he had He had a couple of

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little nice shots there. So I'm loving the shot profile.

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I'm loving the athleticism and his ability to sort of

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push the ball. This was better than I expected. I'm wondering,

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like it could this? Is this too good? Too soon?

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Are we because I think that we're bound to be.

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There's gonna be a stretch of Ben Simmons games. I

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think it was a law that said that used the

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word patience. I think it's one of those things that

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Clippers fans might have to exercise some patients with through

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some stretches. What are you seeing so far? What do

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you think is the ceiling for Ben Simmons on his team?

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Speaker 2: Honestly, a performance like that he may have peaked in

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Game one. No, I think he has more of those

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in him, But it's not gonna be like that all

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the time. Is by point he's gonna have.

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Speaker 1: Some If he does, this team is like in a

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different stratosphere. Yeah, Like I'll just say that, Like I

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don't expect that, but to be fair, if you if

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you did or could, it puts this team in like

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an entirely different stratosphere.

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Speaker 2: Well, I do think he adds another dimension. I don't

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know if they win that game without him against the

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Utah Jazz because they went small. What was interesting was

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he was playing the four on defense, but the five

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on offense, the point center on offense while still not

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guarding the big guy out there that was Niko Batoum

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playing the five defensively. They just have so many ways

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to match up now if they can unlock the best

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version of Ben Simmons. And you talk about his confidence.

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He had that steal where he took it the other

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way for a layup and I thought when he got

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it he was gonna wait for the cavalry to arrive

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and dish it off and give it somebody else to finish. Instead,

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he did and I think he fell to the floor.

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It was a tough layup in transition that one. Yeah,

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that easily could have been a foul there. And he's

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still getting no respect from the officials. But it's one game.

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This is somebody who I don't know, I have high

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hopes for because it would just be cool to see

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another guy who has a resurgence as a Clipper and

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00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,880
it's all there in front of him for this to

478
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,799
happen in a Clipper's uniform. Like, I really do believe

479
00:22:48,839 --> 00:22:51,240
in his skill set and as long as he is confidence,

480
00:22:51,319 --> 00:22:54,680
the mental game is there from him and that support

481
00:22:54,759 --> 00:22:57,400
system with the Clippers I think is very important. This is,

482
00:22:57,839 --> 00:23:01,000
you know, the best place he's been cultural ever in

483
00:23:01,079 --> 00:23:05,240
his NBA career. Like, it's laughable to me that people

484
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,519
still hold him accountable for some of the stuff in Philly.

485
00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:10,799
It's like, wait a second, Ben Simmons been gone for

486
00:23:10,839 --> 00:23:13,200
a while, Guys, it still seems like they got issues there.

487
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,559
I don't think it was him, Like I'm not trying

488
00:23:15,559 --> 00:23:18,240
to point any fingers, but well it's pretty obvious it

489
00:23:18,279 --> 00:23:19,920
wasn't Ben Simmons that was the problem.

490
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: And again I don't want to point fingers. Yes, there,

491
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,960
he like had the opportunity for a layup that would

492
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,160
have tired or given them the lead in that game

493
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,039
that got eliminated in But like Joelle Embiid has also

494
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,400
never had He's never matched even his regular season production

495
00:23:34,519 --> 00:23:37,240
in like it through a postseason. So there's a lot

496
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,079
of issues there. I'm not going to point the blame.

497
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,759
I'm not gonna throw anybody under the bus. I'm not

498
00:23:40,799 --> 00:23:44,880
Doc Rivers here, But I do think I'm curious your

499
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,839
thoughts on this because we talked a little bit about

500
00:23:46,839 --> 00:23:51,759
the rotating lineup with the additions of Ben Simmons and

501
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,200
bogged In. What do you think that does for Chris

502
00:23:55,279 --> 00:24:00,000
Dunn spot in the rotation? Like, does that facilitator necessity?

503
00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:03,480
Hey a move for him to the starting lineup? If

504
00:24:03,559 --> 00:24:07,440
you know, if he if his three point shooting continues

505
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,799
to be more of the two for twenty three type

506
00:24:09,839 --> 00:24:12,240
of stretch we saw versus the one hundred percent stretch

507
00:24:12,279 --> 00:24:14,519
that we saw, Like, does that make it a little

508
00:24:14,519 --> 00:24:17,359
bit more difficult to have him on the floor in

509
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,960
a second unit with these two other guys? Like what

510
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,160
do you think this does for the Chris Dunn of

511
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:22,519
it all?

512
00:24:23,319 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously it puts more of a necessity

513
00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:31,640
on him knocking down those shots from the outside because

514
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,640
Ben Simmons, that's that's never been a part of his game.

515
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,519
That's not it won't be a part of his games.

516
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,759
So you already know going in kind of where those

517
00:24:39,799 --> 00:24:42,079
two guys are when it comes to shooting. I'm trying

518
00:24:42,079 --> 00:24:46,000
to think how much they played together in those small

519
00:24:46,039 --> 00:24:48,839
ball lineups, because I mentioned it was Bogie and Chris

520
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,480
Dunn getting rotated in and out near the end of

521
00:24:52,519 --> 00:24:56,640
that ball game. I think Chris Dunn just needs to

522
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,359
be somewhat of a threat because you can't have like

523
00:25:00,519 --> 00:25:03,480
it's gonna happen at times Coach lou Will try as

524
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,640
he did Ben Simmons next to of Vitza Zubats, And

525
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,720
I'm not saying that that was the entire reason. First

526
00:25:09,759 --> 00:25:11,880
of all, Vitza Zubats had a bad game and off

527
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,240
game for him, but they went I think minus five

528
00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:18,039
and three minutes with those two on the floor next

529
00:25:18,039 --> 00:25:21,519
to one another. And meanwhile, Ben Simmons was really good.

530
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,319
I think was like a plus I don't know, fourteen

531
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,359
and sixteen minutes in the small ball lineups. It's not

532
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,119
always going to be like that, but yeah, I'm looking

533
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,799
at Okay, Niko Batoum next to James Harden, next to Bogie,

534
00:25:34,839 --> 00:25:38,839
next to Ben Simmons, next to Chris done that line up,

535
00:25:39,079 --> 00:25:41,920
So him next to Chris done there, and that specific

536
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,759
configuration went minus four and three minutes in that game.

537
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,640
So I'm trying to see how many minutes he actually

538
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,039
played next to Chris done if that was the only

539
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,119
stretch of him in the small ball unit, and he

540
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,720
may not be able to play those guys next to

541
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,240
one another. It's very possible here will, I mean, it

542
00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:01,079
makes all the sense in the world. You can't have

543
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,039
two non shooters like that that don't It's one thing

544
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,200
if you have a guy who's a rim runner, like

545
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,680
a Visa zoobots even out there next to Ben Simmons.

546
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,440
But what exactly if Chris Dudd isn't shooting, it will

547
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,400
going to be doing next to Ben Simmons out there?

548
00:26:15,839 --> 00:26:17,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and then it just depends on who else

549
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,559
is out there too, because then you can't play Kawhi

550
00:26:19,559 --> 00:26:21,440
out there. I feel like that gets like sort of

551
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,319
his areas where he likes to operate so clogged, Like

552
00:26:24,319 --> 00:26:27,119
it just puts a lot of defenders in areas where

553
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,160
he likes to move. Yeah, I don't know. And it's

554
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,559
different too, because obviously there's still a fair amount of

555
00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:37,039
the regular season left, a little less than half, so

556
00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:40,079
we have some time to figure it out. It's it's

557
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,799
much different to me in a playoff scenario because you

558
00:26:42,839 --> 00:26:46,680
know you're not going to see as many bench heavy lineups,

559
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,599
you know, like there's always going to be I would

560
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,519
assume for the most part, there's going to be two

561
00:26:51,839 --> 00:26:57,039
of the of Norman Powell, uh Kawhi and Harden on

562
00:26:57,079 --> 00:27:00,480
the floor at all times, or you know, much as

563
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,720
they as much as they possibly can. So that kind

564
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,640
of changes things out a little bit, and you're really

565
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,200
just at that point, you're really just lean in either

566
00:27:07,519 --> 00:27:10,319
Simmons or Zoo. I would imagine, I think we'd be

567
00:27:10,319 --> 00:27:13,000
past the point of trying to play them together at

568
00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:16,480
that point, So I think, you know, my thing with

569
00:27:16,519 --> 00:27:19,200
Ben Simmons and why I was so high on the addition,

570
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,279
is like we just need another true sort of ball handler.

571
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,759
I think that this team could always use more athleticism

572
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,839
and size, and he certainly brings both of those things

573
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,960
to the table. But the question was, just like Ken,

574
00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:35,480
you surround him with enough shooting, and I think for

575
00:27:35,519 --> 00:27:37,720
the most part the answer is yes. It just depends

576
00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:41,640
on you know, what Chris Done looks like, and honestly,

577
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,880
like like Bogden and his shooting and how that all

578
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,799
works out is going to be a factor as well.

579
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,279
The thing with Bogden, though, that I think helps a

580
00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:52,559
little bit more is just his motion off ball and

581
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,240
how how comfortable he is moving without the ball, and

582
00:27:56,279 --> 00:27:58,319
I think that that is a little bit more dynamic

583
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,839
than Chris Dunn where and even if Bogden isn't making

584
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,640
those shots, like the motion and the activity still demands

585
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,559
a little bit more respect from the defense.

586
00:28:08,079 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 2: And to be fair to the conversation surrounding Ben Simmons

587
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,920
playing next to Chris Dunn, I brought up that minus

588
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,160
four lineup, but there's another one that went plus five

589
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,039
with Ben Simmons next to Chris Dunn, with Niko Batoom,

590
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,920
James Harden and Norman Powell instead of Bogey in this one. Now,

591
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,480
they played nine minutes and they went plus five. So

592
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,880
you know how much of that is just okay, James

593
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,279
Harden was hot during that stretch, or normOn Powell that's

594
00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:35,200
when he was cooking during that stretch. Can you put

595
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,200
a lot into it? Fundamentally, it doesn't feel like you

596
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,319
should be able to play Chris Dunn and Ben Simmons

597
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,599
next to one another. But maybe it's if Ben Simmons

598
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,920
is such a good passer and connector out there that

599
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,839
he can be a hub on offense and keep the

600
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,640
ball moving, and Chris Dunn is also a willing passer.

601
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,880
They still can create open shots because they're not slowing

602
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,480
down the ball movement. And maybe that's part of the

603
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,319
theory that if you have both them out there but

604
00:29:01,359 --> 00:29:03,519
they're passing it well, and you got them next to

605
00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:06,279
Norm but Toom and James Harden, like in that lineup

606
00:29:06,319 --> 00:29:08,920
that was a plus five there, maybe there is something.

607
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,200
Maybe there are ways, and it's gonna come down to

608
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:14,119
matchup still, and you do have more guys that might

609
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,920
be specialists with this Clippers team that you really have

610
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,400
to be careful with how to use them. And Ben

611
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,119
Simmons is another one of those guys.

612
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean I want to practice this by

613
00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:28,480
saying I'm not taking any anything away from Zubax, like

614
00:29:28,519 --> 00:29:31,759
what he's done this season. You know, the body of work.

615
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,680
We know that he should be demanding the minutes, should

616
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,440
be demanding the shots. But when he's not on the floor,

617
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,079
A front court of Nico and Ben is like really

618
00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:43,279
exciting to me just in the way that you know,

619
00:29:43,319 --> 00:29:45,920
you have some shooting with Nico, you have two phenomenal

620
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,119
passers and guys who can you know, really get after

621
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,599
it defensively, you know, still pretty switchable, even Nico at

622
00:29:53,599 --> 00:29:56,400
his age. So I like, I think the bat is

623
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,720
a really really interesting front court if you can make

624
00:29:58,759 --> 00:30:01,599
it work. It depends on the sort of the machinations

625
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,519
around it. But I think anytime you can't have Zoo

626
00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:08,200
on the floor like that to me is like your

627
00:30:08,359 --> 00:30:11,880
is your best anecdote or your best antidote to not

628
00:30:12,039 --> 00:30:14,519
having uh to not having your you know, your one

629
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,960
a big man on the floor.

630
00:30:16,359 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is playoff type stuff because I don't

631
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,720
know what did be two me end up playing in

632
00:30:21,759 --> 00:30:24,759
that game thirty minutes. That's not something I want to

633
00:30:24,759 --> 00:30:28,079
see much moving forward outside of a few select games

634
00:30:28,079 --> 00:30:31,720
here and there, because I've been saying since the beginning

635
00:30:31,759 --> 00:30:34,359
of the season, you have to preserve Niko Batoum because

636
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,359
he can swing a playoff series for you, not just

637
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,640
a game, but using him the right way in a

638
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,480
playoff series with lineups like these can change everything. I

639
00:30:44,519 --> 00:30:47,079
still believe that's there in him, just like it was

640
00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:49,200
in the twenty twenty one run for the Clippers, where

641
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,759
he can be that impactful for them against certain teams.

642
00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:55,319
So I don't want to wear him down. I understand

643
00:30:55,359 --> 00:30:57,160
they're about that the All Star break. It makes all

644
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,759
the sense in the world to empty the tank in

645
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:01,680
that game against Utah, so he played heavier minutes. But

646
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,680
that is something I'll be monitoring.

647
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely, all right, before we move on to some

648
00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:09,960
All Star Break talk in the Clippers upcoming schedule, do

649
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,759
you have any other parting thoughts on Bogie or Ben?

650
00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: I really think they brought in two guys that First

651
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,680
of all, the only reason they could get one of

652
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,359
them is because he was bought out and is no

653
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,960
longer a superstar that you know, we'll be making forty

654
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,319
million dollars on his next contract in Ben Simmons, And

655
00:31:28,359 --> 00:31:30,640
it was on a team that was tanking, and so

656
00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:32,960
they want to take away one of their better players

657
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,880
so they can have a better chance for Cooper Flag.

658
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:40,000
So very very strange situation there. And then you have

659
00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:44,680
another unique situation with Bogie only playing twenty four games.

660
00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:47,400
His shooting has been off, coming off a season where

661
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,680
he might have his best year just you know, less

662
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,519
than a year ago where he was they had seventeen

663
00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:52,079
points per.

664
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: Game, finished top five in six year voting.

665
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: So I think he was right behind Norm, Like Norm

666
00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:02,200
was fourth and he was fifth. So the only reason

667
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,599
you were able to get these two guys, it's not

668
00:32:04,759 --> 00:32:08,680
because you know they were doing great and the Clippers

669
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,000
had to give up so much for them. They really

670
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:15,000
were able to get two guys with much higher upside

671
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,359
because the unique circumstances going on right now, Like Lawrence

672
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,319
Frank cooked with these two because people have been talking

673
00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:24,519
about how and you, I think you brought it up.

674
00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:29,200
Ben Simmons. It's two birds one stone with him, because

675
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,200
not only did they need a ball handler and a playmaker,

676
00:32:32,599 --> 00:32:36,240
they needed something else to the backup big position. He's

677
00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:39,440
not traditional big, but he can do some things there.

678
00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:43,279
And then Bogie was very much needed with his shooting

679
00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:47,559
with this team. I think they really they really well.

680
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,079
Time will tell, but this could be one of or

681
00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:54,000
two of the sneaky good moves of the trade deadline

682
00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:56,839
that are being a little bit overlooked just because of

683
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,400
how those guys were currently or the situations they were

684
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,720
in and how they were currently playing. They're both better

685
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,319
than what we've seen at those previous stops, and if

686
00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:09,559
the Clippers bring out the most in them, they might

687
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,319
also swing a playoff game or turn a series around

688
00:33:13,599 --> 00:33:15,880
if used correctly, and if they're at the top of

689
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,920
their game. Again with this Clippers team, I think they

690
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,000
really made some interesting moves here at the trade deadline.

691
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,759
Speaker 1: I yeah, I agree one hundred percent. And this is

692
00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:29,400
one of those moves that, given what the Clippers could

693
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,559
do or we're willing to do, not even could do,

694
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,839
but like we're willing to do. We know they weren't

695
00:33:33,839 --> 00:33:36,640
willing to empty the coffers. We know, you know that

696
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,359
they don't want to take on a whole bunch of

697
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,160
long term money, and obviously they need to hold on

698
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,079
to what few assets they have. This was the best

699
00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:46,559
case scenario. This was the best possible trade deadline that

700
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:48,799
they could have had, given you know, what they want.

701
00:33:48,839 --> 00:33:52,160
And I think it's going to get overlooked, probably rightfully

702
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,880
so with some of the larger additions and movements across

703
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,720
the league, because this was kind of an eventful trade deadline.

704
00:33:58,759 --> 00:34:01,319
But this isn't a one of these are these aren't

705
00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:04,319
nothing moves for the Clippers like this, you know, we thought,

706
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,839
you know, we we thought that we might just be

707
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,519
looking at a consolidation move, you know, like just just

708
00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:13,039
sort of consolidating some of the players. I think that

709
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:16,239
this team got you know, did more than consolidation. They

710
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,719
got better theoretically, you know, we still have to see

711
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,320
how it all pans out, but they got were able

712
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,119
to get better at the trade deadline without you know,

713
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,960
giving up needed assets, still a bummer and loose terns,

714
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,760
but not giving up like super crucial assets or having

715
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,639
to sort of up end the team's identity that they've

716
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:34,480
built so far through the season. So I think that

717
00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:36,079
this was like really really great.

718
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,519
Speaker 2: For what they gave up. Basically, they might have gotten

719
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,719
significantly better in a playoff series for what they gave up.

720
00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:48,679
Like it could turn out to be the case, but

721
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,519
as you mentioned, we'll see.

722
00:34:50,519 --> 00:34:52,639
Speaker 1: We will see. So coming up, we're gonna talk a

723
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:54,440
little bit about the All Star break and the Clippers

724
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,920
hillacious schedule coming out of there ad break coming up

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Speaker 2: Well, welcome back in clips and dip. I'm out of Maslam.

729
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,119
We got will Updyke pour one out for Chuck Mockler

730
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,519
Valentine's Day weekend whatever he's got going on. We're visiting

731
00:35:17,559 --> 00:35:20,000
him right now, but we're pushing forward and we're looking

732
00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:23,079
ahead to what the All Star post All Star Break

733
00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:26,960
schedule is going to be for this Clippers team. First

734
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,400
of all, when we're talking about who needs it most,

735
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,599
I don't know if there's anywhere to look more than

736
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:36,440
James Harden after just playing fifty minutes on the second

737
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:41,760
night like that was insane. Big Zoo also looked gast

738
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:46,400
in that game, and I think Kawhi Leonard a little

739
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,880
bit of a reset after playing every other day. I

740
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,760
know we got three days off before the Memphis game.

741
00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:54,199
Speaker 1: Could also what's the difference Stark and how he looked

742
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:54,760
on the floor.

743
00:35:55,559 --> 00:35:59,639
Speaker 2: So with the upcoming schedule with more back to backs

744
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,679
where he will get more rest because of that factor,

745
00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:05,119
they're not going to have another stretch where they play

746
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,559
I think nine games every other day the rest of

747
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:10,519
the season, this could be big for him too. I

748
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:12,119
don't know, is anybody who are missing here will?

749
00:36:13,039 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: No?

750
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:13,519
Speaker 2: No.

751
00:36:13,679 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: I like that you brought Zoo into it too, because

752
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,800
I feel like he's one of those guys who I

753
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,519
think endoors through a lot and sometimes it shows on

754
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:26,559
the floor. Yeah, Like there have even been games this

755
00:36:26,639 --> 00:36:28,880
season where you can tell, uh, the way that he's

756
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,159
moving physically running up and down the court, that he's

757
00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:33,559
like definitely a little gassed. And I don't even mean

758
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:37,280
to like, I'm not even calling into it into question

759
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,920
his overall conditioning or anything like that. I think it's

760
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,840
like a cumulative knocks thing where he you know, he's

761
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,519
an iron man and he's like trying to play through

762
00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:47,199
a lot of stuff. So I think I think that

763
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,920
one's huge. James Harden is, you know, the most obvious

764
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,840
one what he's done this season. You know, we talked

765
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,639
about it up top, but it is truly unique and incredible.

766
00:36:56,639 --> 00:36:59,639
What a guy with both his age but also his

767
00:36:59,679 --> 00:37:04,800
specific usage, what he's still doing is absurd. So I

768
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,960
think the break will be good. I'm curious to see

769
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,320
if there's like a little bit of a readjustment period

770
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,320
for him, you know, like if he has a couple

771
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,679
of less than ideal games out of the gate, out

772
00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:18,719
of the All Star Break. But yeah, I think that

773
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,000
those are the main ones, and I think that it

774
00:37:21,039 --> 00:37:24,159
could be big for Norm as well. And then obviously

775
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,400
just getting a few practices in with these additions that

776
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,760
we talked about last segment could be so huge for

777
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,000
the Clippers. I think that it's big and you know,

778
00:37:32,199 --> 00:37:34,159
maybe Chris Dunn can get some shots up.

779
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, a few different guys need to bull Durham clear

780
00:37:39,039 --> 00:37:42,280
the mechanism a little bit when it comes to some shooting. Wow.

781
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,159
Was I also wonder is Kawhi gonna step on the

782
00:37:46,199 --> 00:37:48,559
gas a little bit more coming out of the break.

783
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a great point.

784
00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:54,679
Speaker 2: Twenty eight games left something like that? Is he really

785
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,320
gonna show us something more? Because they've been going through

786
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,000
these phases of him coming back and at first it

787
00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:03,920
was like the preseason he's playing twenty minutes, then twenty four,

788
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,119
then twenty eight, then thirty now thirty four. Are we

789
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:12,000
gonna see Kawhi now in a place where he's you know,

790
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,559
as close as you can get to playoff Kawhi, you know,

791
00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:19,400
ramped up regular season Kawhi where he's got more of

792
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,679
a green light to take over to ISO and we

793
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,880
just see more burst out there. Generally, I think that

794
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,880
game against Milwaukee, what next Thursday is going to be

795
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,519
really interesting to watch Kawhi Leonard and see how he looks.

796
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,599
Speaker 1: That's a great point too, because you know, we talked

797
00:38:34,639 --> 00:38:36,800
about it when he first returned how it was pretty

798
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,119
clear that he was kind of playing with the governor

799
00:38:39,159 --> 00:38:41,239
on on the offensive side of the floor. He wasn't

800
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,159
you know, he wasn't quite as aggressive, And I think, yeah,

801
00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:46,239
looking at how much is left of the season, certainly

802
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,679
looking at the standings does give him a little bit

803
00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:50,360
more of a green light to sort of empty the

804
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,000
tank and really go for these things. I think got

805
00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:55,000
you bring up the schedule because the first game out

806
00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:59,000
of the break, we are taking on the Bucks, and

807
00:38:59,079 --> 00:39:01,639
then it's a right after that, it's a three and

808
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,920
four on the road with travel you got the Pacers, Pistons,

809
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,519
and the Bulls, and then it's back to La still

810
00:39:09,639 --> 00:39:13,000
technically away, still technically a visiting team for a double

811
00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:17,000
header versus the Lakers. What are you expecting from the

812
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,800
Clippers from this stretch? What did the Clippers need? Like,

813
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,039
what's the most important thing for the Clippers coming out

814
00:39:23,039 --> 00:39:24,039
of this All Star break?

815
00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: You think? I mean, they got to win some games

816
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,559
against the West, and if they could win both against

817
00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:32,639
the Lakers, that would be huge for the head to

818
00:39:32,679 --> 00:39:37,920
head tiebreaker going on, Like, that's it's imperative for them.

819
00:39:38,559 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: It's the other situation where you're fine if they go

820
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,199
two and four over this stretch as long as it's

821
00:39:43,199 --> 00:39:44,199
both wins against.

822
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 2: The uh No, not this close to the finish line.

823
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:54,760
They need to win ball games like they probably Let's see,

824
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,800
if they want to be a top six seed, go

825
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:02,400
four and two. If you want to be a top

826
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,800
six seed in the Western Conference, go four and two.

827
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,360
And if two of those victories are against the Lakers, great,

828
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,679
they have to at worst get the split against them.

829
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,559
But yeah, I don't know if that's gonna be enough

830
00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:16,440
because the Lakers, you know, then it bumps to conference record,

831
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,199
and they have a much better conference record. I don't

832
00:40:18,199 --> 00:40:20,880
think it goes to Pac DIV after head to head.

833
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,360
I think it goes to conference record.

834
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,159
Speaker 1: It's conference.

835
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, So man, those two games are going to be

836
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,559
massive and fascinating watches. Of course, the Lakers with Luca now,

837
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,800
but I think four and two is what they need

838
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,280
to do if they want to be a top six

839
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,320
seed in the West, because things they're gonna be too tight.

840
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's certainly possible. Like I said, you worry about it,

841
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,199
I mean, you worry about the rest. Then it is

842
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,800
kind of a lot coming out of the All star break,

843
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,159
but hopefully with a week they'll look a little bit better.

844
00:40:54,199 --> 00:40:56,199
Where where do you think what side of the ball

845
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,760
do you think needs the most attention right now for

846
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,320
the Clippers? Are you seeing the defense like sort of

847
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,800
after a bit of a fallof are you seeing it

848
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,480
snap back in the place? What do you think offensively

849
00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:08,599
like that? Because that's where the team has struggled all

850
00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:11,239
season long. Are they in a little bit better place now?

851
00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:14,639
Speaker 2: I think they're figuring it out again defensively and Chris

852
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,400
Dunn getting back to playing his brand of basketball has

853
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,719
been huge for them the last couple of games. Aside

854
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,320
from those hot shooting against Memphis again, he just looked

855
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,119
more like himself with the defensive effort there. And they've

856
00:41:26,119 --> 00:41:29,559
been generating turnovers again, which was something I was worried

857
00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:32,440
about for a while, where they just weren't doing something

858
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,320
that is kind of a non negotiable for this.

859
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: I think twenty one versus the Grizzlies something like that.

860
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,760
It was it was a lot and they.

861
00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: Had forty one points off of turnovers, which may have

862
00:41:41,519 --> 00:41:44,199
been a franchise high since they tracked it in like

863
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,840
ninety six or something like that. It was an absurd number,

864
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,639
and they got turnovers again against Utah. This is something

865
00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:52,559
they have to do. Almost twenty percent of their points

866
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:55,159
in every game come off of turnovers. They're the second

867
00:41:55,159 --> 00:41:57,880
best team behind Oka See with points off of turnovers.

868
00:41:58,039 --> 00:42:01,000
So defensively, I am feeling better after a stretch there

869
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,039
where it just seemed like, yeah, they were tired, but

870
00:42:04,119 --> 00:42:08,480
they also wanted adhering to those defensive principles. Offensively, Coach

871
00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:11,159
Lou has been talking about almost like a reset with

872
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,039
what they're going to be doing there and maybe getting

873
00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:17,440
back to basics or fundamentals of what Coach Lou always preaches.

874
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:20,360
But it seems like they're trying to I don't know.

875
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,400
I have a clean slate for the Vets, the guys

876
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,199
who've been there for a while, and then also the

877
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,960
new guys obviously, so everybody's kind of starting in the

878
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,719
same place as they build up the offense. It almost

879
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,639
sounded like a complete teardown, but I don't know if

880
00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:38,039
it can be that extreme this late into the season,

881
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,079
and I don't think coach Lou is completely changing what

882
00:42:41,199 --> 00:42:43,559
he's been doing forever offensively, and they're still going to

883
00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:46,159
lean into ISO with Kawhi and James Harden because they're

884
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,000
top two. Last season, they were the top two ISO

885
00:42:49,039 --> 00:42:52,039
guys in points per possession. You play to your players strengths,

886
00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:55,159
but I think offensively, it's going to be more interesting

887
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,679
to see what happens down the stretch here because obviously

888
00:42:58,679 --> 00:43:01,000
on the season where they seven teenth or eighteenth or

889
00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:04,559
nineteen somewhere there in offensive rating, but the last ten games,

890
00:43:04,599 --> 00:43:07,840
I want to say they're thirteenth or fourteenth. So clearly

891
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:11,320
with Kohai back, he has helped them almost get back

892
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,199
to being a top ten offense, you know. So if

893
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,039
they get to a top ten offense while not falling

894
00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:21,480
out of being a top five defense, that's the sweet

895
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:22,280
spot right there.

896
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: To me, Yeah, I think I don't think they need

897
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,760
to like reinvent the wheel so much. I am in

898
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,159
favor of sort of like a return to fundamentals and

899
00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:34,079
maybe a teardown. We talked about sort of how there

900
00:43:34,159 --> 00:43:36,719
was a lot of guys on the Clippers roster that

901
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,239
are sort of like one specific tool, and I do

902
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,320
think that, like offensively, that that means that you sort

903
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,719
of have to broaden how you play to adjust for

904
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,519
a lot of people, and like what I see with

905
00:43:46,559 --> 00:43:50,360
these couple of auditions like editions here is like Bogie

906
00:43:50,679 --> 00:43:52,519
very much filling a role that the Clippers have kind

907
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:54,920
of traditionally had. You know, you can you can pop

908
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,559
him into like old lup Caernard sets. You can certainly

909
00:43:57,639 --> 00:43:59,760
use him in ways that they would use norm off

910
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,679
Ball with that second unit. And then in Ben Simmons,

911
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,960
I mean, I think that he's such a great fit

912
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,480
because you can, you know, you can run a lot

913
00:44:07,519 --> 00:44:10,079
of the same stuff that you run for Zoo for him.

914
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,039
So I think that there can be sort of like

915
00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:15,159
a simplification and a return to basics that I do

916
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,400
think could just make things a little bit more direct,

917
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,480
and I think that the Clippers would sort of benefit

918
00:44:20,519 --> 00:44:20,920
from that.

919
00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:24,079
Speaker 2: You know, what does concern me about the schedule here?

920
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,159
As soon as they get back three of the first

921
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:32,199
four teams they face our top ten in pace that

922
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,480
would be the Bucks, that would be Indiana and Chicago.

923
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,320
I worry about the cumulative effect that could take. Talking

924
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,679
about in early three and four.

925
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: It's a lot of games. Yeah, that first game back

926
00:44:46,519 --> 00:44:49,480
is the twentieth, I want to say, and then.

927
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,119
Speaker 2: Whatever next Thursdays, Yeah, February twentieth, you're.

928
00:44:53,079 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: Right, And then they Yeah, so they have that one.

929
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,480
I think they have two days off and then a

930
00:44:58,519 --> 00:45:01,920
three and four, so is definitely gonna be I mean,

931
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,039
that's definitely gonna be a stretch to watch for, especially

932
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,639
if they if they need to go four into as

933
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,400
you as you're thinking.

934
00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:12,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, and teams that are playing fast there, so there

935
00:45:12,199 --> 00:45:15,440
could be some tired legs early on. Or maybe it's

936
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,079
a blessing in disguise to get those fast teams right

937
00:45:18,119 --> 00:45:19,840
out of the gate after you have a bunch of

938
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,079
time off. I don't know. The schedule is gonna be brutal.

939
00:45:23,119 --> 00:45:25,280
We've known this all season. We know how it goes

940
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,079
with the Clippers. They just have to find a way.

941
00:45:27,199 --> 00:45:30,280
And if Kawhi is ramping things up or feeling even better,

942
00:45:30,679 --> 00:45:34,400
like we're fifteen games in now and so far Kawhi

943
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,360
says he feels great, that's a blessing in itself that

944
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,280
there's been no setback, you know, knock on wood of course,

945
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,519
speak of the Dell. I just you know, I have

946
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,360
a lot of concern of course over the knee swelling,

947
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,440
and so far, so good. That's something right there. We

948
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,519
should probably acknowledge fifteen games in that everybody talking about

949
00:45:57,559 --> 00:45:59,360
you know, when they lost three games in a row

950
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:02,239
the sky following stuff I mentioned earlier, It's like, guys,

951
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,599
they're in good shape. They're eight games, about five hundred.

952
00:46:05,679 --> 00:46:07,840
They've had Kawhi for fifteen games. He hasn't had a

953
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,840
setback yet. We're doing all right here, I think, Yeah.

954
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Speaker 1: We're looking pretty good. We're looking pretty good. Where with

955
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,840
All Star we can going on. Where do you think

956
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,800
Norm finishes in this three point competition?

957
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 2: I mean number one, one, one one's he's so damn competitive.

958
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,239
I'm excited for this. When we saw some of the

959
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,039
practice footage of him getting up shots and he looks good.

960
00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:40,199
So I hope he's not putting too much pressure on himself.

961
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,559
And I think I'm going to live stream watching it

962
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later tonight on Clipper's Talk. But I hope he's not

963
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,400
putting too much pressure on himself because that's where things

964
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,440
could go wrong, where coach Leu has had to tell

965
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,960
him like it's okay, you're going to miss. Sometimes you

966
00:46:53,039 --> 00:46:55,599
do have to be so hard on yourself. But he's

967
00:46:55,639 --> 00:46:56,639
a maniacal worker.

968
00:46:57,199 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you think James Harden gets a strip the All

969
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,360
Star Game? Yeah, he adds. He adds an All Star

970
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,199
Strip to the to the Hard and Strip Club.

971
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,599
Speaker 2: I mean, if they're playing a level of defense that

972
00:47:08,599 --> 00:47:10,800
they should be to make it a competitive game. Yeah,

973
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,000
I hope. So that's all I want to see. I

974
00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:15,360
don't know, I don't even understand some of the format.

975
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:16,239
I'm watching the rising.

976
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 1: I don't even bother, baby, I don't even bother trying

977
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:19,320
to keep up.

978
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a moving target. With how they're doing this

979
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,920
All Star game and switching things up, is it's still

980
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,559
the elam rules, but with I think that what they're

981
00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:30,320
trying to do is and I saw this last night

982
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,760
too where they had three games four teams leads to

983
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,719
three games. Two teams play each other, and then the

984
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,000
winner of that game play each other. So the hope

985
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:43,000
is I think the NBA is saying we're bound to

986
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,440
get one good game if we have them playing three

987
00:47:46,519 --> 00:47:49,519
on Sunday. That's that's what I think they're going with.

988
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,079
Speaker 1: I don't know if that holds, but I you know,

989
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,800
I like the I like the thought process. I suppose

990
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,039
do you have any uh, do you have any parting

991
00:47:59,079 --> 00:48:02,199
thoughts on on All Star weekend or where the Clippers

992
00:48:02,199 --> 00:48:04,440
are heading in or where they need to be coming out.

993
00:48:06,039 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 2: Uh. I just want to commend them again for that

994
00:48:09,079 --> 00:48:11,599
level of focus heading into the All Star break. There

995
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,519
is you touched upon it earlier too. That speaks to

996
00:48:15,599 --> 00:48:18,719
something about this team that is not nothing. To be

997
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,159
down twenty in Utah and not pack it in, to

998
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,320
be down sixteen with like sixteen minutes left and not

999
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,599
pack it in, that was a I don't know, a

1000
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,639
character building type of win. Something born out of this

1001
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,760
type of win. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. I took

1002
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,119
a long way to get to where I eventually was

1003
00:48:39,159 --> 00:48:42,239
going the entire time. I just I don't know. I

1004
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,880
like the competitive edge this team showed against Utah in

1005
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,000
that game, because you could say, oh, why would they

1006
00:48:48,039 --> 00:48:50,159
down twenty to begin with? At them? I don't know.

1007
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,679
They hit nine fing three's of the first quarter. The

1008
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,880
records eleven, they hit nine.

1009
00:48:56,039 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: It was as a team like I think they only had.

1010
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,480
They were only like three Jazz players who weren't in

1011
00:49:01,519 --> 00:49:02,239
double digits.

1012
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 2: It was you know, yeah, Philipowski had his best game

1013
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,440
as an NBA player so far. They played well. They

1014
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,800
were playing to win too. So the important part is

1015
00:49:12,159 --> 00:49:15,000
the Clippers gutted it out when they needed to, and

1016
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,360
I think that bodes well for what to expect from

1017
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,159
this team in the future. When the going gets tough.

1018
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:22,880
We saw him just lose three in a row. They

1019
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,199
made up for it. They won three straight and a

1020
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,039
game where you can make all the excuses in the

1021
00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:30,039
world to lose, and they didn't lose it. Yeah.

1022
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,599
Speaker 1: That being said, when the going gets tough for you

1023
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,400
or your friends or people you know, go ahead and

1024
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,239
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1025
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,920
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1026
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,599
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1027
00:49:41,599 --> 00:49:43,400
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1028
00:49:43,519 --> 00:49:46,079
The best way to check out the show is obviously

1029
00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:49,679
over on YouTube dot com. That's at Clippers Podcasts. But hey,

1030
00:49:49,679 --> 00:49:52,559
however you listen whoever you watch, you know we appreciate you, Adam.

1031
00:49:53,159 --> 00:49:55,000
You know we gotta do it before we before we

1032
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,159
send these fine folks out of here's what's what's our

1033
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,800
shining light? What's our positive thing that we're gonna end on?

1034
00:50:01,199 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 2: Oh? I spoke about so much positivity already I should Okay,

1035
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:11,079
I got something. So over the last ten games, this

1036
00:50:11,119 --> 00:50:16,000
is a crazy number teams are shooting their best three

1037
00:50:16,039 --> 00:50:20,320
point percentage against the Clippers. Over the last ten games,

1038
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:25,119
teams have been shooting. Hold on, stay with me. Teams

1039
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:30,039
have been shooting forty point four percent from three over

1040
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:33,360
the last ten games, and that's against the Clippers. It

1041
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,960
is the worst percentage or the best percentage, depending on

1042
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,079
how you look at it. If you're the opposition, they've

1043
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:41,159
been lighting them up. But I've looked into a lot

1044
00:50:41,199 --> 00:50:43,960
of the numbers and they're giving up the same amount

1045
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:48,039
of open threes and wide open threes, and I think

1046
00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:51,639
it's just flooky shooting. It just happens sometimes like you're

1047
00:50:51,639 --> 00:50:53,840
on the wrong end of it. I think at times

1048
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,519
they've been on the right end of it where they're

1049
00:50:55,519 --> 00:50:58,159
not closing out and guys are just missing against them.

1050
00:50:58,679 --> 00:51:02,079
But the point is to be six and four over

1051
00:51:02,119 --> 00:51:05,440
a ten game stretch where teams have been shooting over

1052
00:51:05,559 --> 00:51:09,920
forty percent against you, that is very rare. Like they

1053
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,639
should be four and six at worse, not at worse,

1054
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,960
but at best, And somehow they're six and four over

1055
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,119
that time Like that. That tells you. Because their defensive

1056
00:51:20,199 --> 00:51:23,679
rating over the last ten games isn't twenty ninth, it's

1057
00:51:23,679 --> 00:51:26,480
still I think thirteen, So they're doing things right in

1058
00:51:26,519 --> 00:51:29,000
all these other areas. There's just some shooting that's gone

1059
00:51:29,039 --> 00:51:34,119
against them, but it hasn't. Yeah, OK, that's impressive.

1060
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,559
Speaker 1: All right, we'll take it. Thank you so much everybody

1061
00:51:37,559 --> 00:51:40,519
for tuning in, and as Charles always says, let's go

1062
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clips