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Speaker 8: That is a wolf king of the ba is iron Jaw.
And before that we heard Barry the Snake to open
this segment, also Iron Jaw. This is Matt Connerton unleashed.
And if you are listening live on Saturday, we have
entered our number three new Marrow trace and thank you
to everybody who's joined us today so far. Of course,
in the first hour we had not Lee Crewe Motley
Crue tribute band. Those guys were so much fun. And
then of course in the second hour we had Mercury
Burns first, another great band from the area. So what
is supposed to be happening in this hour is the
first half of the hour Iron Jaw. Rick Perry from
not that Rick Perry, but Rick Perry from Texas is
supposed to be skyping in to join us. And then
in the second half of the third hour, we're going
to be joined by the band Tuesday Night Whites from
there all the way from the UK across the pond,
as we say, but are actually there in Scotland, I believe.
But so they're are going to be joining us, but
we have not heard so our guests Iron Jaw is
m i A. We have not heard from Rick Perry.
We have emails from him and so forth, but so
he knows he's supposed to be joining us, but something
may have happened. So perhaps something has happened on his
end and we'll have to reschedule him. I'll give him
the benefit of the doubt because those guys have always
been super professional and so something had to have gone
wrong for him not to be skyping in. So maybe
skype isn't working for him, who knows, But so we'll see.
I mean, maybe we'll hear from him in the next
couple of minutes. But but yeah, a couple of great
tracks Bury the Snake he sent us. He was saying
that apparently Kiss is a band that he grew up loving,
so that's supposed to be kind of like a kiss song,
like an early kiss song. I can't hear oh, I
see why I can't hear you. I had Skype turned
up because we're waiting for Rick, but had you turned out?
But yeah, I can imagine, I can imagine Gene Simmons
singing that song Bury the Snake. Yeah. Yeah. And then
wolf King is a great track, and so well we'll
see if we'll see if we hear from him in
the next few minutes. But anyway, but in the meantime, yes,
but there is some olymp Biscuit news. We've been talking
a lot about olymp Biscuit on the show.
Speaker 9: They are pressing forward with their lawsuits, yes, against Universal.
Speaker 8: But they've run into some hurdles, some hiccups. Fred Durstan
the boys have. Yeah, you sent me this article from
Digital Music News. Federal judge partially dismisses lymp biscuits two
hundred million dollar plus UMG lawsuit amended complaint due by
February third. So if you don't know, lymp Biscuit has
sued their record label, Universal Music Group for two hundred
million dollars in unpaid royalties, or, as I like to say,
a hell of a lot of unpaid royalties. That's a
lot of money. Two hundred million dollars. Yes, what pay
the artist? Oh yeah, don't No, apparently not, It says
here Olympus gets far reaching lawsuit against UMG isn't going
particularly well. My goodnes, excuse me, I'm still coughing, as
the presiding judge has dismissed several components of the over
two hundred million dollar lawsuit. It says the court recently
made the partial dismissal official after Olympus GET front man
Fred Durst and his Flawless Records, which is his imprint
record label, submitted the initial action. In October twenty twenty four.
We covered the sixty page complaint alleging millions in unpaid
royalties and seeking to nix the underlying agreements in detail.
Just to recap Durst hired a new team in April
twenty twenty four, and they uncovered millions in allegedly missing
royalty payments, as well as purportedly below board recoupment practices
across multiple deals, including an interscope Flawless JV. By the way,
so recoupment for those who don't know, in the music industry,
when a label signs you and they advance you a
bunch of money. That's not your money to keep. It's
not congratulations you're now a millionaire. That money is to
pay for various things like recording your album and some
other expenses that the label will incur on your behalf
in terms of releasing and distributing and promoting your album,
and that money has to get recouped and that in
other words, that money has to be paid back to
the label before you receive any royalties. So it's almost
like an advance, like, well, it isn't advanced. It's an Yeah,
the label is advancing you that money, but.
Speaker 9: It's not supposed to be just for you to spend
on whatever you want.
Speaker 8: Right exactly exactly, So yes, But so according to UMG,
that money had not been recouped, that advanced money had
not yet been paid back, so they didn't They were
saying they didn't know the band any money. Hard to believe.
They sold like forty five million records, you know, I
would think that they'd be owed something, but it says here. Consequently,
owing in part to the timing of the relevant royalty payments,
the plaintiffs moved to acts all the agreements in question
and assume ownership of the involved recordings. Unsurprisingly, that didn't
sit right with Universal Music, which fired back in November
twenty twenty four with a firmly worded dismissal motion. In short,
the major label said it hadn't violated the terms of
the appropriate agreements, which allegedly allowed and do allow for
cross account recoupments. Running with the point, there definitely hadn't
been a total failure quote unquote on UMG's part to
honor the terms of the contracts, including because the multimillion
dollar advances it had coughed up per the company. Speaking
of coffee, I can't stop coughing, cough it up, dry cough.
As as a result, Olympus gets pushed to invalidate the
contracts should be rejected per UMG, which therefore moved to
dismiss the closely related copyright infringement allegations as well.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 8: Such a tangled web, and as initially highlighted, the presiding
judge has sided with the defendant label specifically by tossing
Olympus gets contract recision, copyright infringement and declaratory relief claims.
So uh yeah, this is going poorly for Olympus at all, No,
they lost a lot, Yes, but that doesn't mean they
won't win with their you know, their their claim that
they're owed money. It just it may not be the
amount that they're suing for. But we'll see. But you know,
one of the things that has come up, and uh,
the there's a YouTuber who I really like, a law
tuber named top music Attorney. That's the the handle she
uses on YouTube, who talked about how labels often engage
in something called spaghetti accounting, where the accounting practices are
so complex that it's difficult to audit them. It's difficult
to find out what you're actually owed. And we talked
to when we talked about this before, how UMG apparently
creates a portal that you as an artist, if you
are signed to UMG, you can sign into your portal
and see exactly where everything stands financially in terms of
what your owed, financial recruitment, et cetera. But UMG, I mean,
I'm sorry, Olympus get they were locked out of their portal.
They must have lost their password or something. It's all
very it's such as that lockout. What a mess. But
the other thing too, it's a cautionary tale. You want
to make sure when you sign, whether you sign with
a major label, whether you sign a with any label,
make sure you have an entertainment lawyer, look at that
agreement with.
Speaker 9: Somebody on your side for certain Yes, the laws really
do cover the industry more than they do the artist.
Speaker 8: Yes, in a lot of ways. Yes, absolutely, that is
uh so, that's kind of the update with Olympiscuit. Something
else that popped up that I thought was interesting. This
is from Music Business Worldwide dot com. Ten thousand AI
generated tracks uploaded daily to deezer. If you're not familiar
with deezer, you can, you know, put files on there.
You can put podcasts on there too. This show ends
up on Deezer. I don't even know how it ended
up there, but it's on there. You can find Mandreton
Unleashed on Deezer. I'm not even kidding. I don't know how.
Speaker 6: I don't know what that is.
Speaker 8: I really don't. I don't know how it ended up there,
but it's fine. I want to be everywhere. Yeah, but
uh but it is filed. Deezer is filed two patents
for a new AI detection tool so they can detect
this AI generated content. I don't know how this is
allwoing to go?
Speaker 9: How how do they do that?
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, apparently they have the technology. It says here.
France headquartered music streaming service Deezer has launched a new
AI detection tool after filing two patent applications for the
technology in December. On January twenty four, this just happened. Yesterday,
the company revealed that it's new It has new tech
that is already discovered. That roughly ten thousand fully AI
generated tracks are being delivered to its platform every day. Wow,
every day. Wow.
Speaker 9: See now, I'm very much in favor of this software.
I want to know if it's a human or not.
Speaker 6: I really do want to know.
Speaker 8: Well, apparently so does Deezer. That amounts to about ten
percent of the daily content delivered to Dezer. Deezer CEO
Alexis Lenineer, I probably didn't say that correctly, also said
yesterday the company plans to exclude fully AI generated tracks.
Quote from algorithmic and editorial recommendation. Generative AI has the
potential to positively impact music creation and consumption, but its
use must be guided by responsibility and care in order
to safeguard the rights and revenues of artists and songwriters unquote.
The company says it is set out last year to
develop an AI detection tool that quote surpassed the ability
of available tools. Tools that are on the market today
can be highly effective as long as they are trained
on data sets from specific generative AI models, but the
detection rate drastically decreases as soon as the tool is
subjected to a new model or raw data unquote. Aurelian
Herald Chief innovation Officer A. Deezer said, quote, we have
addressed this challenge and created a tool that is significantly
more robust and applicable to modern models unquote. Deezer's new tool,
on which the company filed for two patents in December,
can detect artificially created music from a number of generative
models such as Suno and Udio. Those have both been
in the news recently, with the possibility to add on
detection capabilities for practical any practically any other similar tool
as long as there's access to relevant data. Examples. HM,
So there's more to this. It gets pretty into the weeds,
but Deezer is cracking down, and I imagine some other
platforms will be doing so as well.
Speaker 10: Good.
Speaker 9: We should know the difference.
Speaker 6: I want to know.
Speaker 9: Are I think it matters? M I really do think.
I mean, I'm not saying that somebody who wants to
use AI to create something that they can't be creative
like that, but I do think you should be able
to know whether or not this is a computer human being.
As an artist, I want to know, did a human
pick up that paintbrush? But did's some printer put it out?
I want to know the difference.
Speaker 8: Yes, I just am skeptical.
Speaker 9: Well you're gonna go plain you're not.
Speaker 8: I'm just I'm just skeptical about these these tools, these
AI detection tools. I would think especially with with UH,
you know, electronic music, I would think it would be difficult,
like em electronic dance music. I would think it would
be particularly difficult to H to detect certainty. I'm worried.
What I'm worried about. What I'm worried about. What I'm
worried about is artists getting UH. I'm worried about this
going wrong and that legitimate artists end up being tagged
as being AI generated when their music is not AI generated.
That's what I'm worried about.
Speaker 9: I get what you're saying, but I think it's I
think it matters.
Speaker 8: I really do think it.
Speaker 9: Like I said, you can be creative with computers and
that's fine, but I want to know the difference between
the two, right, I want to know if that guitar
is being played by a human or not. And I'm
wondering if what they're using is really the preciseness, right,
because computers don't make mistakes. Everything is fun. Humans make
the mistakes when they program it.
Speaker 8: But that's but see, that's where that's why I'm particularly
concerned about what I'm worried about happening. I'm particularly concerned
about that happening with electronic music, where you know you're
creating everything if you're.
Speaker 9: But if you're playing it on a keyboard or something,
it's not going to be precisely perfect unless a computer
is operating it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know. Oh, we'll see what happens. I'm skeptical.
Speaker 9: Well, do you want to know the difference? Do you
want to know whether or not stun by computer or
human doesn't matter to you?
Speaker 8: I don't know that it does that much. Really. I mean,
I want to advocate for artists, but I'm just worried
about things going wrong. Like I said, I'm worried about artists.
It happens all the time with content creators. You know,
content creators who create content and they get tagged by
YouTube for you know, creating content that for copyright strikes
yes or so forth that aren't actually valid things like
that that I get. That I get.
Speaker 9: But I mean, we've seen a lot of artists come
in here that use electronics and there's a uniqueness to
them that I don't think that a computer can perfectly.
They can make it perfect, but they can't make it imperfect.
Speaker 8: Like a human is. Well, we shall see. We'll keep
an eye on this. It'll be interesting to see where
this goes.
Speaker 9: And I said that, I'm sitting here thinking, well, yeah,
but they could program it to make mistakes like a you.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so how do you know how we are? Yeah,
I'm concerned about that. I'm concerned about that.
Speaker 2: Well, let's do this.
Speaker 8: We're gonna play a couple. So we open today's show
with two radio premieres. We played All the Drugs, the
brand new track from our friends Naked Without It from
the UK, their brand new song, so the American radio
premiere of that, and We also played the brand new
track from Mike Frasier, who is from Seattle, who's gonna
be joining us on the show in the future. But
he's got a brand new track, the world radio premiere
of April Days. So for those of us just joining
us in the first hour, those of you rather I've
been here the whole time, we're gonna play those again.
We're gonna debut those, and then when we come back,
we're gonna have the guy I don't know how many
of them are joining us, but we're gonna have the
guys from the band Tuesday Night Whites joining us via
Skype from across the Pond. Yes, and we're gonna play
We're gonna play a couple of their tracks as well,
so we played them recently a show on the show.
We played a track called Runaway, the American radio premiere
of that. But they've sent us a couple more. What
a great band those guys are, so so there is
plenty more to come. But here it is. This is
from This is from Naked Without It. This track has
called all the Drugs and you're hearing it for the
first time in America right here on WMNH.
Speaker 10: Met a young lady. She said it tastes grit. She
walked the streets of London pleasure she would see. She
made the boy so happy, left them with a smile.
Speaker 11: She earned the most money and the king skin them out.
But I'm met her in a dollhouse.
Speaker 10: Has been decreed. The cone across her eyes was the
best that they ever seen. Took it to her restaurant.
Her nails were painted black before the night through.
Speaker 11: While I was under a sack. She go home round,
she gone back, She gone, I'm blown, She gone black.
She gone around, She gone back, She gone blown, She
gone black.
Speaker 10: Said you might not be center around. I'm sure you
ain't the sink. It was written in the stars. I'm eating,
ain't fix said, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: Honey, I don't know what you're big.
Speaker 10: She said, to give me a whiskey, and all the
drugs are there ed a matter in the city. The
bar was under the ground.
Speaker 8: Papa's hitting high was to rob the berry sign.
Speaker 11: Wrong place, wrong time, into my life. She gone five minutes,
saying to show me the night.
Speaker 10: Sook off running. I got myself behind, but I could
see the cat. But you'd have to be blind. Told
me Berdie Street that you didn't lie.
Speaker 4: My toul ain't no problem.
Speaker 10: Because the cat came home.
Speaker 11: She gone around, She gon back, She gone and blow,
she gone black. She gone round, You gone back, She
gone and blow, She gone black. Said you might not
be a sin of it. I'm sure you eat or
sink hiples it and then starts I mean in the
was fixture said, I'm sorry, honey, I don't wone what
you mean.
Speaker 10: She said, jimmy a whiskey and all the drugs are dead.
Speaker 6: You need.
Speaker 10: You mnd have be a cinema. I'm sure you eight
or six tips written nimb stars. I meant nim speets.
Speaker 11: Said I'm sorry, honey, I don't know what you've been.
She said, you give me a whiskey and all the drugs.
Speaker 6: And dagg.
Speaker 12: April days of coming gone spring.
Speaker 6: Rain is rolling on.
Speaker 12: My heart breaks without a song. The road starts to wind.
They're funding water so they last. The anti arms are
coming fast. Will peace get a chance? Who would have known?
I've been feeling.
Speaker 6: Something is wrong.
Speaker 4: The voice in my head has been here for too long.
One day I will get.
Speaker 6: To live again.
Speaker 4: Playing in my hospital bed, the.
Speaker 6: Sun shine and all my head.
Speaker 13: The doctor stopped by and said they know what's the Oh,
I've been feeling, looks something is wrong. The voice in
my head has been here for too long.
Speaker 2: One day I will get.
Speaker 4: To live again.
Speaker 6: I'm happy to be alive. The worst days are long behind.
Speaker 14: Feelings from all the time I spent in pain. I've
been feeling, looks something is wrong. The voice in my
head husband here for two One day I'll kids.
Speaker 2: Live life.
Speaker 6: Fuckin, don't you wants?
Speaker 4: Nothing going sid my mind?
Speaker 15: When I can't decide, I'll be shooting. And tonight they dreams,
but just something you said to me and he's holding.
Speaker 16: Me fack yeah, and they say we're hardly.
Speaker 4: From nine to five.
Speaker 15: Dude, I can't shake the feelings to about me one life,
no clip wing?
Speaker 2: Sohow oh I want.
Speaker 16: To fly.
Speaker 4: So so slovenly fast on the world of the lights.
Speaker 7: You carn't show me a crown and expect my delights
to sell.
Speaker 4: Find the fat before compromise.
Speaker 2: Oh and let it go to.
Speaker 7: He started calling his side, Hello, you say it so
they'll say this.
Speaker 2: So the same sole say what's nine? As he knows
being a revel.
Speaker 15: Again, be red again, been Renega, the Roe says, to
learn your lines if that's what you're.
Speaker 4: Like, I'd say take a chance. From revis to the
libel see.
Speaker 7: The void of Sally down no.
Speaker 4: And being player in your game.
Speaker 15: But the rules at the shade Westmins the last is
the reference. That's then don't say.
Speaker 4: It correct before I stamp.
Speaker 6: The life who.
Speaker 2: Let me record? Say it's starting on his sun? The
same so that same design.
Speaker 7: So the allowed to say what's.
Speaker 2: Money is a no being?
Speaker 7: Rather a gay bed let a day?
Speaker 4: Did let again? Gonsigey sold it?
Speaker 3: Say you signey?
Speaker 2: So it say and.
Speaker 4: Would say man said.
Speaker 2: Decide, for they are to say what's money? Isn't no
be let today?
Speaker 7: The leaded again?
Speaker 2: Lead again?
Speaker 8: My god, what a great what a great track that
is the Renegade. The band is Tuesday Night Whites and
we've got via Skype Ollie is here, I believe Olie?
Are you there?
Speaker 17: Hi?
Speaker 3: You okay?
Speaker 8: Hey, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: How are you doing all right?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 10: Yes?
Speaker 8: How are you all right?
Speaker 17: Well?
Speaker 3: Thank you very well. I've got Jack with me as
well from the bun.
Speaker 8: Jack is with you. Hello, welcome, how are we hey?
Speaker 4: Guys?
Speaker 8: I love that song, so we played we played recently
on the show. We did the American radio premiere of
twenty three which is a great song, and we got
a lot of positive response to that here people who
listen to listen to the show here Matt Conderton unleashed,
and so we're excited to have you on. And then
I listened to the Renegade and I think I had
emailed back and said, this is just an epic track.
It's so so good. So I love what you guys
are doing.
Speaker 17: Love that.
Speaker 18: Thank you so No, I really really appreciate it giving it.
It's a little Davey over there. And to play twenty
three hour brand new one as well. No, it really
means lots of that.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely no, glad to do it. And we have
another track from you too that will play. Uh, we'll
play a little bit later at the end of the segment.
But how long have you guys been around? How long
has this band existed? Tuesday Night Whites.
Speaker 18: So it's funnily enough, it started off just myself and
Jack probably about maybe four or five years ago, and
we started it just after maybe the COVID COVID nineteen
times and we've used to play just an acoustic acoustic
set with Jack on the guitar and myself singing, and
we we saw we just we just fell in love
with it. We we just love going out, we love
playing in you know, like local pubs and clubs, and
then we decided to pick it up and make it
a band, probably about three years ago.
Speaker 8: Now, okay, okay, so relatively new in that sense, relatively new. Yeah, yeah,
And how much music have you guys put out? Do
you have a full album out or is it? Is
it just singles at this point? Oh, we're not.
Speaker 18: We're not quite at the album stage yet. Obviously the
gold for us, definitely, we're all like absolutely music mad.
A lot of those we've been sort of playing music
for as long as we can all remember. So at
the moment, we've got three singles that are officially released,
but we play a live set full of our own,
our own songs, so we're hoping to keep releasing them
throughout the year.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Well, once you've put out so far sounds amazing.
So I look forward to hearing more from you guys.
And you know, we do live in a time where
there's various approaches and strategies you can use as far
as releasing music. But no, I really I really like
what I've heard so far. Tell us about the name,
because people, you know, especially you're in American people are
going to hear that name and be curious what does
that mean exactly? Tuesday Night Whites.
Speaker 19: So basically, the name is from our local football team
over here in Preston, And essentially the band is made
up of five members, but all five members, we're just
a group of mates as well outside of the band,
and we all support over here the local football team Preston.
Speaker 17: So it's like a it's a common interest in something
that we share together.
Speaker 19: And one of the nicknames of the club, of the
football club is is Tuesday Night Whites. So because it's
a common interest that we share, it's something that we
can all relate to and something that unanimously brings us together.
So we thought it's absolutely perfect to use it as
the band name.
Speaker 8: Why now, why why are they? Why is that a
nickname for the team? I mean the do they only
play on Tuesdays? And what is are Do they have
white uniforms? Like, I'm just really curious about the name.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, So so.
Speaker 19: Our home kit, our home shirt is white, the color
is white, and we do play usually play on Saturdays,
but clusters.
Speaker 17: There's a lot of fixtures and a lot of games
to be played.
Speaker 19: Quite often. There is a lot of games on a
Tuesday night as well to fit them all in. Okay,
so we all we all go in the game together,
we go to the pub before the game together.
Speaker 17: So it's just a shared interest that we all have
and that we can all relate to.
Speaker 8: Okay, Okay makes sense. I'm curious too about influences because
the songs that you guys write, you know, there's a
there's a real especially a song like the Renegade, there's
a real sophistication there, but it's all so very very catchy.
It's it's so accessible. Kind of reminds me a little
bit of Oasis, but but only a little bit. I'm
curious to hear about what what kind of influences going
to the band and your music.
Speaker 18: Yeah, So I mean, like like I said previously, we're
all like music mad, and we all we all spend
like most of our time, even on the footballer going
to live gigs, and I myself personally, I just since
I went when I was like a young kid, I
really fell in love with music.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think Oasis definitely a huge, huge influence.
Speaker 18: On us all a lot of like No Gallagher's solo
stuff as well, But then there's a lot more like
sort of more modernish fans that are touring nowadays that
like said, we we will go on a weekend and
we'll sort of like really.
Speaker 3: Analyze you know, the live set and the sound and.
Speaker 18: Lyrics, and we'll sort of take the best bits and
see if we can work that into our own stuff.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, have you guys, are you getting any traction
at radio where you are? Because like I said, I
mean these songs are very very accessible. I can definitely
imagine them on the radio.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 18: We I mean, like I said, we our with our
recent release twenty three. We had quite a big sort
of marketing strategy behind that one. There's a there's a
radio station based in Manchester which is called Radio X
and then there's also one called Excess Manchester, which are
two quite popular ones around that area. Yeah, and they
gave us our debut play on those as well, So
that was that was really cool.
Speaker 3: Good for us.
Speaker 8: So I have to tell you something funny too, just
one of these synchronicities that happen, So you know how
in twenty three. It's kind of toward the end of it.
It might be coming out of the solo. There's the
part with the bus station. It sounds like somebody's buying
a bus ticket. Yeah, so we happened to When we
played that song on the show, Jenny and I had
just had an off air conversation with a guest about
how where we are here at WM and H and Manchester,
New Hampshire. Of course we're actually in a building that
used to be a bus station, swear to God. And
and in fact, if you look on Google for where
to buy bus tickets around here, this building still comes up,
which is why we have to keep the door locked.
Some people don't wonder and trying to buy bus tickets.
But we were explaining that. We happen to be explaining
that to somebody who was a guest on the show.
Speaker 2: And uh.
Speaker 8: And then so we play that song and the I
forget who it was. I forget who the guest was,
but they noticed it before we did. Whoever was on
was like, oh, I think it was Gracie. Actually she said, hey,
I just heard a thing for a it sounds like
somebody selling bus tickets. It was just so it was
so weird. It was just like like I said, it
was one of those odd synchronicities that can happen.
Speaker 3: But and maybe maybe it was it was made for
that radio station then that that may.
Speaker 8: Very well be. It may have been faith, it may
have been fath. What's the scene there as far as
live shows, Are you guys able to play out a lot?
Are there are a lot of places to play?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 18: We I mean we, like I said, we're from Preston.
We're all based in Preston around the Northwest. We're so
close to to sort of the biggest cities like Manchester
and Liverpool, Leeds newcastleant too far away. So for us,
we've had quite a good success in the Northwest and
we've built up.
Speaker 3: A lot of like a really good fan base around here.
Speaker 18: So it's been really good to play obviously impress in
our hometown, but just maybe slightly out in Manchester Liverpool
as well.
Speaker 8: Yeah, are these venues are they really receptive to original music?
Because I know, you know some places you know they
want to hear covers or whatever. But are you guys
able to play a lot of shows where you can
just focus on your original music and people are receptive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, well, I mean we started out, and
I think it's maybe just sort of a part of
the trade.
Speaker 18: When you first start out, you do have to sort
of go into places where they want a few more
covers and stuff. But I think just getting getting your
name out there and getting live experience is obviously fantastic
for us. But yeah, and more recently, especially like last year,
we were so lucky to get in some really great
venues that are literally born and bred music venues, and
they love original stuff, they love bands, they love live music.
So yeah, it was really good last year to get
out there and just play our own stuff, which we
we love doing. We don't mind a cheeky cover here
and there, but playing your own stuff, there's nothing beat
to that at all.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Absolutely, Have you guys made any videos yet?
Speaker 3: Not full length music videos.
Speaker 18: No, we try a little bit like social media, but
I mean, if you look into the statistics now, it's
all short and sweet videos.
Speaker 3: So we've done a few of those, but nothing full length. Yeah.
Speaker 8: I was just curious because I can imagine, especially a
song like twenty three. I don't know, it just seems
like it would really lend itself to to to some
sort of a video. But but obviously you know, but
you guys have it, you know, things covered as far
as social media and whatnot, which is so so incredibly important.
And yeah, do you have do you have I'm sure
you don't have any immediate plans, but you know, do
you kind of long term do you think about maybe
getting you know, getting New America to play? I think
I think you'd go over really well here, I really do.
Speaker 17: One hundred percent.
Speaker 19: We're just we're just, at the end of the day,
a group of five mates that love playing music.
Speaker 17: So where everyone wants to hear us, one hundred percent
we'll be there.
Speaker 19: So yeah, the most we're just focusing on getting out
of our hometown area Northwest and then this year in
twenty twenty five, we're going all over the UK up
to Glasgow and Edinburgh, down to London, so who knows
in the future out to Europe and then across the
pond over to America.
Speaker 17: That would be unbelievable.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, no, that would be fantastic. How do you
how do you guys record? There's so many different options
now for how you record, but everything that I've heard
so far it sounds like it's done in a million
dollar studio, but I know that's that's I know that's
not always the case. What is your approach to recording?
Speaker 19: And so we have a good friend of ours called
Tom Hale, and his profession, his job is actually to
work in a voiceover gallery, so he's he also does
obviously bands and recording and mixes and masters. But we
met him very early on in the band, and so
we just get a demo together, something that we put
together in his fair bedroom and then get a rough
guide track, take it to him. We go into a
studio and it's about probably about half an hour drive
from where we live, and then Tom does. Tom does
the rest and works his magic and it makes it
sound as good as it is. So it's a it's
a lot of credit to Tom and his skills and
his hard work and the time and effort that he
puts into it.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 8: No, he does a great job. Everything sounds great. I
imagine he's probably worked with some some pretty big artists,
I would I would guess it sounds like.
Speaker 19: Yeah, No, he's a he's a he's very big in
the local area where we are. Bands that we performed
with that we know that we go and see. He
does work with a lot of them as well as
live sound engineering at gigs as well.
Speaker 17: So he is like around our area, he is the
man to go to.
Speaker 8: Yeah, as excellent, excellent. How did you How did you
come to work with him?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 8: Was it because he sounds like a very busy guy.
Was it challenging to connect with him or did it happen?
Did it come together pretty easily?
Speaker 3: You know what? I think?
Speaker 18: I think he's he is such a littly guy that
he always has quite a little a little spot for
anyone from his sort of hometown that he can help out.
Speaker 3: Good for the first conversation we have with him, he
he it was at a festival in Preston.
Speaker 18: It was a day festival and he was there and
we were outside in the big garden and we just
got chatting to him and then just sort of said,
you know, if there's.
Speaker 3: Any possibility we could we could do some work of him.
Speaker 17: And he was really up for it.
Speaker 18: And then yeah, a few months later we got booked
him with him and started the process.
Speaker 8: Oh that's really cool. Good, good, you plan to continue
to work with him in the future, I assume, Oh?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yeah, if You'll have it was definitely.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, very cool, very cool, I think in a moment,
so I want to play you know, we've played twenty
three on the show before obviously, and we just played
the Renegade, I think too at the end of our conversation,
I'd like to play Lost Control, another really really cool song.
I love that one. Everything I've listened to that you
guys have put out so far, I think is uh,
it's just been amazing. But but for people who are
listening who want to know where to keep up with
you guys online, where to keep up with all the
new music and and and people we might have listening
in your area, because you know, obviously you can get
access to the show from anywhere in the world. People
who want to maybe get to a live show. Where
should people go online to keep up with everything Tuesday
Night Whites is doing.
Speaker 18: Yeah, So we we try and we try and keep
all of our social media up to date as possible,
and I think maybe Instagram and Facebook if you can
find us on there, and those would be the key
ones for us. We do a little bit on TikTok
with some videos and stuff as well, but of course
we've released on Spotify, Apple Music and all that kind
of stuff. But yeah, if you want to give us
a follow on Instagram or Facebook, it's t NW official underscore.
Speaker 8: All right, very good, very good, that's easy. Yeah, you
guys are very very googleable, as I to say, absolutely so. Yeah,
so we'll let you go. In a second, we'll play
this track, Lost Control. But thank you both so much.
Ali and Jack from Tuesday Night Whites. Let's do this
again in the future, because obviously you're gonna keep releasing
new music and we'll keep playing it here. We love
what you guys are doing. But thank you. We'll let
you go. But thank you guys both so much for
joining us today.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, and thank you for playing the tracks.
You really really appreciate it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, great night, Absolutely you too. All right, thanks guys,
take care, all right, bye bye. All right. That was
Jack and Allie from the band Tuesday Night Whites. Let's
play this track. This will be another American radio premiere.
This hasn't been heard anywhere in the US. This is
called Lost Control. We're gonna give this a spin and
then Jenny and I we'll come back and finish up
for today. But check this out. Lost Control. The band
is Tuesday Night Whites.
Speaker 2: He's com okay, it's so bad.
Speaker 4: He's got the Dreamers the series, but no controller.
Speaker 1: And see there's the Knight.
Speaker 2: He's lost control the Moon. The three spiritcals got one
thing on his mind.
Speaker 4: So now the Dreamer is alive and as he has
the Knight.
Speaker 20: And he lost controlful, he lost control, he lost control
and he loves Controul.
Speaker 4: The cancer, I said, set he is not strong with.
Speaker 1: No cares or back and this he hass the Knight
and he lost.
Speaker 20: Control very plays conceded, relieve the under the night.
Speaker 2: He lost control, he lost control, was lost controul and
he lost control.
Speaker 6: Sol mh.
Speaker 14: S it's.
Speaker 3: This.
Speaker 6: But his sound is a.
Speaker 4: Longest boy sound is the longest.
Speaker 2: So scouts a Knight, so Scouts and Knights, he says,
sound is a lot sound.
Speaker 8: Those guys have such a great sound. I love them.
I love them. Tuesday Night Whites is the name of
the band that is called Lost Control. Thank you again
to Ali and Jack for joining us today on the show,
skyping in from one another. One of those intercontinental calls.
But that was that was fantastic, and we're gonna play.
We're actually we talked about it during our interview. We'll
play it again at the end of the show today
twenty three, which is the first single from the band
that we debuted here on the show on American Radio.
Uh so, always very happy to do that, Jenny, before
we go, you've been very busy. Of course we should
plug your website and where people should go to keep
up with everything you're doing.
Speaker 9: I know I have a lot to catch up on
on my website at Jencoffee dot com j E N
n c O f f ui dot com. You can
keep up with my activism there.
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, yes, you've been You've been very busy. Yes,
oh we should mention too. This past week we were
at On Tuesday night, we were at Terminus Underground. That
was so much fun at New Hampshire Underground of course
grand reopening. Yep, Eleanor and Andre doing great things there
and we finally met Simba yes Simsyre on the Facebook,
so that was very cool.
Speaker 9: Space in Nashaulla. Definitely encourage people to check it out.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 9: You can utilize the space there as an artist. They
even have a practice room that where bands can come
in and utilize if they don't you know, necessarily have
the ability to rent a room for themselves to have
all to themselves all the time. They actually have a
space that you can come in and utilize.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, and you even have a set set up
in it. And we got to watch Quincy Lord oh
yeap do an amazing set, and then Jesse Rutstein, who
is also going to be coming on the show soon.
Speaker 9: Yes, yes, we will be seeing them in the future.
Excellent artist, amazing sound. Yeah, just really enjoyed. The entire
event was wonderful. We saw Manchester Inclink was there. I
believe it's an article Yep, that was a great article
of course from the Manchester Inclink. You should check them
out for certain. They cover a lot of great New
Mpshire news, not just limited to us.
Speaker 8: I think there's something in the Hippo too, I think
you're right, was something.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And of course that's the home of Dead Harrison. Yes,
another great band that we've had on the show before.
We look forward to when they come back.
Speaker 8: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: It was all in all an absolutely amazing place. They
even have a gallery area where they highlight local artists
and they do change that artwork out on a regular basis.
If you'd like to be highlighted. They should definitely check
out the New Hampshire Underground. They're on Facebook and all
the other socials do yes, they are everywhere, yes, yes, yes, yes,
so definitely check that out. And then, of course our
other lovely place we love is the Mosaic Art Collective.
They have a new show coming up soon. The deadline
was yesterday to enter, so this weekend they'll be announcing
those who have made it into the Show of Illusions,
which is going to be all about three D effects
and things that maybe look a little different or below
in the dark black light. I'm looking forward to seeing
how that show goes. And then the next show that's
coming up you want to think of it is a
kinetics show where people are going to be doing interesting art.
I've actually been trying to bug Miriam into remaking one
of her really creative pieces she did of puddles. Yeah,
and I think it would be an excellent, excellent submission
for the Mosaic Are Collective, so definitely check them out
as well. Located right here in the Queen City.
Speaker 8: Yes, absolutely, well, thank you everyone who joined us today.
Of course, we had a Nottley crue in the first
hour of the Great Motley Crue tribute band, and in
the second hour we had Mercury Burns first, and of
course Tuesday Night Whites in the third hour, and not
sure what happened Iron Jaw, but hopefully everything's okay. Well,
hopefully everything's okay because I really like them. But so
if you miss any part of today's show, it will
be up in just a little bit at wm andhradio
dot org and on my website Matt Connorton dot com. Also,
if you missed yesterday's granted state of Mind, oh god, yeah,
John Hopwood was there. He was there for the full hour.
I so missed that.
Speaker 2: Laugh.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I loved listening to listening last night hearing
him laugh. I missed you happy And then Texas Mike
and I joined the show halfway through. Ye, so that
is of course up at wmnhradio dot org, and of
course then John Hopwood joined us on as well as
Texas Mic for Retro Spectrum Radio.
Speaker 8: Well on the.
Speaker 9: Evening here at WMNH. That was so much fun. Miriam
and I were actually enjoying being creative listening to you folks.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I worked on a painting and she was doing some.
Speaker 8: Oregami. Thank you.
Speaker 9: The word for some reason was being replaced with macromay.
Speaker 8: Okay, and that's not right. No, that's what you do,
that's what I do, all right.
Speaker 9: No, we had fun.
Speaker 8: It was a good evening, very good, very good. So
thank you everybody, and we're gonna close today's show out
with one more track from Tuesday Night Whites. This is
the first single that we premiered on the show. And
this listen carefully, you'll hear the bus station in it.
This is called twenty three. And we'll close out with
this and we'll talk to y'all a little bit later.
Bye everybody, Bye bye jee.
Speaker 16: Then sound blue lights, flashboo.
Speaker 4: It will never be found.
Speaker 16: The song just pattish line, drum, sound yeah, and make
some memories to forget in the morning.
Speaker 4: And it feels like everything changes.
Speaker 16: But the people around you keep a smile on the
face in case I'm telling you yeah, I'm selling yeah,
I'm selling you really, So.
Speaker 4: Let's say it down and you can sell it. Sounds
it's some one new.
Speaker 2: Song.
Speaker 4: The funny thing basis the.
Speaker 2: Big boar focuses the one.
Speaker 4: A Lacies and dream.
Speaker 2: Created hearing me anything.
Speaker 20: Let's go back to you in the advices, says the
preep places the one a face and dreams be created,
te hearing me anything, Let's go back.
Speaker 2: In the.
Speaker 16: Sime Li hundred miles so the rise where the sun
shining down on me and you can't seem to hide
that smiles if we tell you your storby.
Speaker 4: Or suit, and it feels like everything changes. But we've
had that before.
Speaker 10: So while we prot through the paces.
Speaker 3: Yeah I'm selling you. Yeah, I'm selling you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm selling you.
Speaker 2: So say down and you can sell it.
Speaker 7: Sound so woome you out.
Speaker 4: From the twenty things.
Speaker 2: Nice is the people, the places, the world.
Speaker 20: Basis credated, hearth anything right splices the people, the places,
the god that faces and teams with the cat to check,
telling me, let's go backing.
Speaker 4: I was singing a song that will bring you a
lung snight.
Speaker 15: That cavin little world time has catch that the evening
right because it's ten past five on a freezing winter's night,
but with a smiling of faces.
Speaker 2: Were dancing. So the sunrice, that's what dancing.
Speaker 4: So the sun rides, that's what dancing. So the sun
rice that's good dancing. The sonar rice escal does and
so a sor.
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Speaker 2: This is a passenger announcement.
Speaker 7: The twenty three bus will now be part from Stand
nineteen and ten.
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Speaker 6: He's the