WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:03.240 I are live today out here at ARUP Blood Services. 2 00:00:03.279 --> 00:00:06.799 It's ninety seven eighty six South five hundred West in Sandy. 3 00:00:06.879 --> 00:00:09.720 We're asking for blood donations as this time of year 4 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:12.039 sometimes going to lead you to a lot of accidents. 5 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:15.279 AARUP is the sole provider to the University of Utah 6 00:00:15.439 --> 00:00:17.960 and the Huntsman Cancer Institute. You can enter to win 7 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:21.239 free tickets for the Utah BYU football game. 8 00:00:21.920 --> 00:00:24.320 Our next guest knows a thing or two about Utah 9 00:00:24.399 --> 00:00:27.719 BYU about football. Friend of the show, it's been a while. 10 00:00:27.719 --> 00:00:30.440 It's great to have Austin Collie back on the program 11 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:34.840 on a Tuesday. Austin, Happy Tuesday, man, how you doinganky Tuesday? 12 00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:35.280 How are you? 13 00:00:35.799 --> 00:00:37.799 I'm well, I'm well. I appreciate your time today. 14 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:41.799 So, just generally speaking, what is Utah BYU Week like 15 00:00:41.920 --> 00:00:44.039 for you? As somebody who played in this rivalry once 16 00:00:44.119 --> 00:00:47.240 upon a time, I'll. 17 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:48.880 Tell you what. I'll be honest. I tend to get 18 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:52.240 a lot of requests to do some you know, radio 19 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:57.479 bits and different media outlet interviews. So it's fun, man. 20 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:01.320 It's a game that I've you know, I've always held 21 00:01:01.320 --> 00:01:04.000 near dear to my heart, and I think all BYU 22 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:07.719 and Utah fans have and you know it's nothing but 23 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:09.640 great for college football and great for the state. 24 00:01:10.760 --> 00:01:15.200 How has your prism or view on the rivalry changed 25 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:19.359 in the years in between your performances, and you had 26 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:22.519 some great games against BYU. We remember fourth and eighteen, 27 00:01:22.599 --> 00:01:25.319 you got eighteen passes for three h four and a touchdown. 28 00:01:25.879 --> 00:01:28.959 And then obviously you made the remarks that I always 29 00:01:29.200 --> 00:01:31.799 maintained were taken a little bit out of context. But 30 00:01:31.840 --> 00:01:33.840 you know the deal with this, if you say one thing, 31 00:01:33.879 --> 00:01:37.480 the people will run with them forever. So you're still 32 00:01:37.560 --> 00:01:40.799 kind of the magic Happens guy. And when that went down, 33 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:43.560 people were not very nice to you, Austin. So, between 34 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:46.280 then and now, how is your view of the game changed, 35 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:46.840 if at all? 36 00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:51.599 Oh, I think I've put more stock into the game now. 37 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:54.120 Like you know, prior to prior to coming here and 38 00:01:54.120 --> 00:01:56.519 prior to coming to bou right, I lived in California, 39 00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:59.920 I was I was a packed ten at the time. Kid. 40 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:04.000 You know, I really didn't pay too much attention about uh, 41 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:06.159 you know, in regards to b y U and Utah 42 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:09.120 and the rivalry. And I remember my my freshman year, 43 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:12.560 my true freshman year, when we went up there played 44 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:16.000 against the Fiesta Bowl team against Alex Smith and Urban 45 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:18.919 Meyer and and uh, you know, I had a little 46 00:02:18.960 --> 00:02:21.800 SoundBite during that week as well that that fans and 47 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:24.479 and players didn't take too kindly too and and that 48 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:27.319 was kind of my first dose of of what this 49 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:31.680 rivalry meant to the players, the teams or the universities 50 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:33.919 as well as the state and the fans. And and uh, 51 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:37.039 I think my understanding has even gone to another level 52 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:41.159 having lived here now right, I've got two partners, uh 53 00:02:41.639 --> 00:02:44.439 that uh we don't and insurance brokers here in South Jordan, 54 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:47.199 and they are avid Utah man. So we've been going 55 00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:49.039 back and forth in the past two months on who's 56 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:50.560 gonna win this game and what this game means to 57 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:51.080 each of us. 58 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:55.159 I gotta love that. I wonder if you have, because 59 00:02:55.199 --> 00:02:56.639 as I referenced. 60 00:02:56.159 --> 00:03:00.879 You had several memorable moments against you. Is there one 61 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:03.960 that stands out above the rest? I imagine I know 62 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:05.560 the answer to that question, but I wanted to get 63 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:05.960 it from you. 64 00:03:07.759 --> 00:03:10.159 Yeah, no, I you know, the fourth and eighteen obviously 65 00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:12.039 is you know, That's what I'm constantly reminded of from 66 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:17.439 BYU fans and and Utah fans alike. Obviously Utah fans 67 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:20.400 have a little bit more hate in our heart when 68 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:23.439 they talk about that played. But you know, I think 69 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:27.000 every game I played it against Utah it was different. 70 00:03:27.039 --> 00:03:28.759 It was definitely different than the other games that we 71 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:30.800 played against. You could tell there was a different energy, 72 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:34.039 there was a different you know, there was more on 73 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:36.159 the line, I think during those games than any of 74 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:37.080 the other games I played. 75 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:41.280 So I believe, Austin, you were part of the last 76 00:03:41.400 --> 00:03:42.439 BYU team to. 77 00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:44.840 Win in Salt Lake? Is that is that accurate? I 78 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:45.599 think that's true. 79 00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:52.680 That is not true. So I the last time I 80 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:54.800 won was the fourth and eighteen year was two thousand 81 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:58.759 and seven. And then I, you know, luckily was able 82 00:03:58.759 --> 00:04:03.199 to play against too the best youth teams that Utah 83 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:06.000 has ever had, right in four, lost to them and 84 00:04:06.080 --> 00:04:09.719 O four, and then you know, as luck would have it, 85 00:04:09.759 --> 00:04:11.319 I lost them and O eight when they was in 86 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:13.719 the Sugar Bowl. So, uh, I only got them one 87 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:15.680 time out of three. So I'm not gonna lie to yet. 88 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:17.399 You know, every time we didn't get him, I go 89 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:18.959 ahead and I chuck that up as my own win 90 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:19.360 as well. 91 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:23.199 Fair enough, fair enough, you you reference to dynamic about 92 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:25.199 you personally that I wanted to tap into a little 93 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:28.639 bit more because you know, these days Austin, as you know, 94 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:32.319 you can pull up either Utah or BYU's roster and 95 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:36.680 you see kids from Texas, in California, in Florida, in Canada, 96 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:39.600 in Virginia, and I could keep going. And so it 97 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:42.680 breeds this conversation where if you're not a local, do 98 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:45.800 you really understand what this game means as somebody who 99 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:48.360 did not grow up here. Do you think the out 100 00:04:48.399 --> 00:04:52.040 of state kids really understand what that environment is going 101 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:54.439 to be like on Saturday night or is that something 102 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:56.720 that you simply have to experience firsthand? 103 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:00.439 No, I think you have the experience first hand, right 104 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:05.199 Like I grew up you know, watching the USC Notre Dame, uh, 105 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:08.839 you know, the Arizona Arizona State, the Stanford USC game 106 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:11.480 or Stafford Cal games like those are the you know, 107 00:05:11.480 --> 00:05:13.480 and obviously the Michigan Ohiose State game. Those are the 108 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:18.000 rivalries that I knew. And then, you know, having experienced myself, 109 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:21.000 now I have the appreciation that this is like a 110 00:05:21.079 --> 00:05:23.519 top three rivalry in the country in my opinion, right, 111 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:25.279 And I try to I try to say that without 112 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:29.759 you know, any bias. I mean the fact you have 113 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:33.600 so many especially this game, you have so many kind 114 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:37.920 of behind the scenes, uh factors that go to this game, 115 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:41.600 right the head coach having played at by U over Utah, 116 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:44.680 the head coach playing at b YU and once coaching 117 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:47.000 at Utah for b YU, Right, Like, there are so 118 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:50.000 many different elements that go into this game that you know, 119 00:05:50.040 --> 00:05:52.680 the geography of it all right, the fact that the 120 00:05:52.680 --> 00:05:55.720 fan bases are majority the majority of the fan base 121 00:05:55.839 --> 00:05:58.120 is broken up by you know, a single point of 122 00:05:58.199 --> 00:06:02.279 the mountain, right, and you know, and those are the 123 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:05.560 things that make the rivalry what it is. And unless 124 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:09.079 you are in the community or have been in the 125 00:06:09.079 --> 00:06:13.240 community and understand what this means to everyday people and 126 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:14.920 the bragging rights that go along with it for the 127 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:19.800 next year, and and how how how much people take 128 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:21.519 the win or the loss to heart, man, how that 129 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:25.079 can ruin or make the next year what it is 130 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:27.120 for some of these fans, Like you don't know that 131 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:29.560 until you've set foot on campus and played in the game. 132 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:33.519 So you've made You've made some of the most infamous 133 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:36.519 comments in the history of this rivalry, as we've talked about. 134 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:41.120 But I've always maintained that the real hate. 135 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:45.199 When it comes to Utah BYU is fans who use 136 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:47.800 the internet to feel brave. Cowards use the internet to 137 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:50.920 feel brave, so they go online they attack people in 138 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:53.160 a way they never would in real life, and it 139 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:56.000 seems to very rarely spill over into. 140 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:57.480 Real life, although that does happen. 141 00:06:57.639 --> 00:07:00.560 But it always felt like the coaches and the players 142 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:05.720 respected each other, respected the you know, the the other institution. Intel, 143 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:09.160 a quarterback that you played with, Max all said I 144 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:10.160 don't like Utah. 145 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:10.800 I hate them. 146 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:13.240 I hate everything about them. That was the first time 147 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:17.000 like your comments. In my opinion, yes, they were remembered 148 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:20.079 in a way that probably is a little bit uncomfortable, 149 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:22.000 but I thought that was kind of like no harm, 150 00:07:22.079 --> 00:07:25.680 no foul to me, and then Max just goes, you know, 151 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:27.480 nuclear on the entire thing. 152 00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:31.160 How accurate are Max's comments? 153 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:33.600 Are they truly reflective of the way that most b 154 00:07:33.800 --> 00:07:41.199 y U players feel about the University of Utah? 155 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:45.000 I don't know. That's a great question, you know, and 156 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:47.959 it's a great question to ask only because you know, 157 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:54.240 as the locker room from a geographically diverse or or 158 00:07:54.399 --> 00:07:58.000 or continues to become more geographically diverse in terms of 159 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:01.480 where each players come from and now understanding like that 160 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:03.439 back in my day, man, like we had a lot 161 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:06.319 of kids from Utah, so they understood what this rivalry meant. 162 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:09.319 And you could say there was some hatred. There was 163 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:17.040 some U it will right, uh wished upon the other university. 164 00:08:17.079 --> 00:08:20.639 But you know, I think, kid, now, especially with you 165 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:23.360 know how many new kids are, you know, transferring into 166 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:26.839 the into the school, into each school, you wonder if 167 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:31.199 that hatred still exists. And I'd probably say not, right, Like, 168 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:33.720 I know, the kid from Utah said some things about 169 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:38.240 by U which fired me up. I loved them, right, 170 00:08:38.440 --> 00:08:40.279 I mean, that's what the rivalry is all about. And 171 00:08:40.279 --> 00:08:41.759 then I saw that he kind of took them back 172 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:44.120 on h on Twitter, and I was like, dude, don't 173 00:08:44.159 --> 00:08:46.279 take those back, right, Like, this is what the game 174 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:49.320 is about, is what rivalry is supposed to be about. 175 00:08:49.399 --> 00:08:53.240 But you do understand. I think, yeah, I would say 176 00:08:53.279 --> 00:08:55.559 maybe maybe maybe the hatred's still there just because it's 177 00:08:55.559 --> 00:08:57.759 staying and fused, I guess yeah. 178 00:08:57.799 --> 00:09:00.279 And I just had never heard a player say what 179 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:03.039 Max said. And and for me, somebody who as I say, 180 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:05.639 I cheer for storylines in my space to talk about. 181 00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:06.799 I'm like, sweet, well, I've. 182 00:09:06.639 --> 00:09:09.240 Got an I've got a week of content based off 183 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:12.440 of the comments of Max. It was just new Austin, 184 00:09:12.440 --> 00:09:15.200 because I had never heard a player under that phrase, 185 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:16.039 if that makes sense. 186 00:09:17.039 --> 00:09:19.240 Yeah. It doesn't help too that, you know, Max and 187 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:23.080 I during those days, we would walk around, you know, unfiltered, right, 188 00:09:23.799 --> 00:09:26.679 And nowadays, I don't think they can get away with 189 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:30.120 that that much, just because of you know, all the 190 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:34.159 eyes and and all the outlets, and you know just 191 00:09:34.159 --> 00:09:36.440 how popular college football is now today compared to when 192 00:09:36.440 --> 00:09:40.559 it was back then. But yeah, yeah, Max, I think 193 00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:42.039 I think most of the players still that way. I 194 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:43.960 think Max is the only one brave enough to say it. 195 00:09:44.759 --> 00:09:47.759 So we had Colonie on yesterday, and when Colanie was 196 00:09:47.840 --> 00:09:49.320 up here as the decordinator, I. 197 00:09:49.279 --> 00:09:51.240 Did a weekly coaches show with him, so I. 198 00:09:51.320 --> 00:09:53.600 Was able to get to know him and a Rod's 199 00:09:53.639 --> 00:09:56.840 my guy and Jay Hilla you grad. It feels from 200 00:09:56.919 --> 00:10:02.919 my seat Austin the Klannie has taken the lead along 201 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:05.679 with Coach Wit because it's very much Coach Mac and 202 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:09.039 Coach Lavelle as far as the respect and admiration they 203 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:10.399 have for each other. 204 00:10:10.799 --> 00:10:13.600 Bronco was central casting for youth. 205 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:17.759 Fans who think BYU is pious to just feed fuel 206 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:20.440 to the fire. And it felt like during those days, 207 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:24.000 as you know, the hatred was through the roof, and 208 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:26.080 it felt like it felt like it in the community, 209 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:29.120 it felt like in churches, felt like online. Klani and 210 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:32.360 Kyle seems to have restored civility to this thing from 211 00:10:32.360 --> 00:10:34.519 my vantage point, in a way that wasn't around when 212 00:10:34.559 --> 00:10:36.120 Bronco was here. 213 00:10:36.519 --> 00:10:38.279 Do you feel like that's accurate? What are your thoughts 214 00:10:38.360 --> 00:10:41.120 on that? Yeah? 215 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:44.240 Maybe, you know, I think we kind of put back 216 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:47.480 in the Broncos ed Bronco's you know, coaching tenure. I 217 00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:51.919 think I would say that it was easy to have 218 00:10:51.960 --> 00:10:54.279 a target on our back, right, And I think that 219 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:56.720 was kind of like self inflicted in terms of maybe 220 00:10:56.720 --> 00:10:58.799 they hate the Utah had for us, right, I mean, 221 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:01.440 when we're going out there saying things like, you know, 222 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:05.639 quest for perfection and and uh, maybe taking a platform 223 00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:10.759 a more I don't know, a religious stance on the university, 224 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:13.120 not saying that it's not happening now. But you know, 225 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:15.879 I think we were kind of we weren't afraid to 226 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:17.240 say it, we weren't afraid to flow on it. Right, 227 00:11:17.240 --> 00:11:19.840 And I think maybe that that that the stark contract 228 00:11:19.879 --> 00:11:23.639 between the two universities and maybe the the the student 229 00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:25.840 body was was kind of thrown in your face and 230 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:28.879 maybe leveraged to kind of incite some more you know, 231 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:31.759 more drama, more more ill will towards each other. But 232 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:35.399 you know this nowadays, I think Coladie has done a 233 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:38.000 great job. It's it's hard to hate Kilane, right, It's 234 00:11:38.039 --> 00:11:40.600 hard to hate any any team that Kilani coaches, just 235 00:11:40.639 --> 00:11:43.159 because he's such a great guy and he, honestly, I'm 236 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:46.320 I'm sure has a ton of love for not just 237 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:47.799 with but a lot of those guys over there at 238 00:11:47.799 --> 00:11:49.519 that coaching staff that are still there or were there 239 00:11:49.559 --> 00:11:53.320 when he was there. So you know, I don't think 240 00:11:53.399 --> 00:11:56.600 it's I think that he's about to get turned out, 241 00:11:56.639 --> 00:11:58.519 to be honest with you, now that we're playing every year. 242 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:00.679 I think that's kind of what kind of decimated the 243 00:12:00.679 --> 00:12:03.200 whole thing as well. When the game has no value 244 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:06.279 and it's just a game to be played and it 245 00:12:06.279 --> 00:12:09.639 doesn't indicate where you're going to finish in terms of 246 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:11.440 the conference, and both of you are in the same conference, 247 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:14.159 I think it loses a little bit of its luster. 248 00:12:14.759 --> 00:12:16.879 A little bit of its heat. And now that it 249 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:18.559 does matter, now that we're in the same conference, I 250 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:19.559 think it's going to turn back. 251 00:12:19.519 --> 00:12:21.519 Up for sure. Yeah, good point. 252 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:23.960 I want to ask you because we had always heard, 253 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:28.799 you know, the way Coach went and Morgan coached this 254 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:32.519 week and how it's we don't lose to them, and 255 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:35.120 rumors of other things it may not be above board 256 00:12:35.519 --> 00:12:37.399 that I can't speak to because I was not there 257 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:41.080 for any of them. Juxtaposed to the way Bronco prepared 258 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:43.919 you guys for this game. It always felt like Bronco 259 00:12:44.039 --> 00:12:47.200 kind of took a nameless, faceless approach and this is 260 00:12:47.279 --> 00:12:50.120 just another game type thing, even though we all know 261 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:50.480 it's not. 262 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:53.360 How did Bronco get you ready for Utah? BYU? What 263 00:12:53.480 --> 00:12:54.159 was that week? Like? 264 00:12:57.159 --> 00:13:00.879 Yeah, it was business as usual, to be honest with you, like, 265 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:03.039 I mean that that that was kind of Bronco's approach. 266 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:05.480 You know, no, no opponents greater than the others, and 267 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:09.120 you know, it is more just show up and play 268 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:13.039 our game. We're gonna we're gonna be just fine. And 269 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:15.200 and to be honestly, I hope, I hope, I hope 270 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:17.240 Colony takes a little bit more, has a little bit 271 00:13:17.240 --> 00:13:20.200 more or gives a little bit more edge to the guys, right, 272 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:22.960 and preparing him that that this week is not this 273 00:13:23.039 --> 00:13:25.080 week's not like any other week, right. I mean, if 274 00:13:25.080 --> 00:13:27.799 you look at the history of the game, I don't 275 00:13:27.840 --> 00:13:31.240 know what the what the average is, but you know, 276 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:34.480 this game is decided by very few points each every 277 00:13:34.480 --> 00:13:38.039 single year, depending on or not depending on who's good 278 00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:40.919 or or who's having a better season. But I mean 279 00:13:40.919 --> 00:13:45.000 it's it's strictly a game that that no matter where 280 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:47.799 anybody stands in the season and how bad a team 281 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:49.440 is or how good a team is, it always ends 282 00:13:49.480 --> 00:13:53.960 up being a margin of victory by by you know, uh, 283 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:56.480 or I should say, very small margin of victory. 284 00:13:56.600 --> 00:13:56.679 Right. 285 00:13:56.799 --> 00:13:59.919 So it's not it's not the same week, It's not 286 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:02.120 this as usual. This is a different game. There is 287 00:14:02.159 --> 00:14:05.480 a different opponent. They're coming and playing with some you know, 288 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:07.399 coming from a place or playing from a place that 289 00:14:08.120 --> 00:14:12.679 you know they're not playing uh you know, they're they're 290 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:16.519 not They're not playing with with any other opponent. If 291 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:17.200 that makes sense. 292 00:14:17.879 --> 00:14:18.320 It does. 293 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:21.360 And from my perspective, I think Kilani smells blood in 294 00:14:21.399 --> 00:14:21.720 the water. 295 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:23.799 Kilanie is the sweetest guy in the world. 296 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:25.919 But make no mistake. When it's time to play, he 297 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:29.399 wants to kick your ass. And I think he smells 298 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:31.759 blood in the water. I think he sees a team 299 00:14:32.120 --> 00:14:34.639 that has struggled offensively to do much of anything. 300 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:35.399 Uh. 301 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:37.159 And I think they're coming up here for blood, man, 302 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:39.799 I really do. And there's no data point that indicates 303 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:42.279 Utah is a better football team than b YU. It 304 00:14:42.360 --> 00:14:45.720 does not exist. The numbers, not just the record. You 305 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:49.120 go deeper, there's plenty of data points in indicaate. You know, 306 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:52.039 Utah still has a really stout defense, but offensively it's 307 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:56.320 been a mess. I think you know, it's not just Kilanie. 308 00:14:56.360 --> 00:14:59.679 It's a fan base that heard four years enjoy your 309 00:14:59.679 --> 00:15:02.559 Indi and we're in the PAC twelve now. It's fan 310 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:05.120 base that basically for a generation has had the results 311 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:08.679 more or less lopsided. Even though BYU got Utah last 312 00:15:08.679 --> 00:15:11.639 time to break a nine game losing streak. My feel 313 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:13.600 is those boys are gonna be out for blood. They're 314 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:15.320 coming up here and they're they're smelling the blood in 315 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:15.679 the water. 316 00:15:17.799 --> 00:15:21.200 Yeah, I hope, so, I hope so. I hope they 317 00:15:21.279 --> 00:15:24.679 come in with a with a different swagger than they 318 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:27.639 have in years past. And I hope they come in 319 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:29.440 with a mentality that they're going to you know, handle 320 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:34.440 business and continue to convince the country that they're going 321 00:15:34.519 --> 00:15:36.480 to be Big Twelve champions and and hopefully end up 322 00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:37.559 in the College Football Playoff. 323 00:15:38.039 --> 00:15:39.919 So a few minutes we have left, let's talk about 324 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:42.559 what's impressed you the most, because, look, the fact of 325 00:15:42.600 --> 00:15:44.960 the matter is Austin with what happened last week in 326 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:45.679 the Big Twelve. 327 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:49.000 Like the walking line for ute. 328 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:51.159 Fans media was like, Okay, you have a chance to 329 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:52.519 spoil BYU season. 330 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:55.600 Well you don't because BYU could lose. 331 00:15:56.080 --> 00:15:59.360 On Saturday and still and they do still have a 332 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:03.919 very very realistic path through the Big Twelve Championship and 333 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:06.960 therefore the CFP, And obviously the one thing you could 334 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:11.120 ruin is a perfect season, which is always impressive when 335 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:12.759 you've seen it the way that we have with eight 336 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:15.440 o five to zero conference. What has stood out most 337 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:18.000 to you about the way Kilate and a Rod and 338 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:20.000 Jay and the whole staff, the way they've been able 339 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:22.840 to piece this together every week to answer every question 340 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:24.519 that's been thrown at them. 341 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:33.840 Yeah, I mean, they're they're professionals, right. I think I 342 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:36.080 think it would be easy to kind of cower. You know, 343 00:16:36.519 --> 00:16:40.639 typically when a team like b YU, who maybe hasn't 344 00:16:40.639 --> 00:16:42.840 found themselves in the top twenty five or even you know, 345 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:46.840 obviously the tough ten for quite some time and maybe 346 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:49.320 came in as an underdog, it's easy to kind of 347 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:52.200 get in the bright lights and maybe shy away or 348 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:55.799 start doubting yourself if you're eating, you know, if you belong. 349 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:58.759 And one of the things that not only the coaches 350 00:16:58.759 --> 00:17:03.440 but the players have been able to demonstrate is that 351 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:05.359 they're not afraid, and they have all the confidence in 352 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:08.079 the world, and they carry that top ten swagger right. 353 00:17:08.119 --> 00:17:10.440 They do deserve or they do believe that they deserve 354 00:17:10.519 --> 00:17:13.200 to be in the top ten. Every week they continue 355 00:17:13.240 --> 00:17:20.079 to convince the country that it is such. And you know, 356 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:23.039 obviously that comes down to the way that they're handling 357 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:26.200 it from the coach's end and what they're telling the players, 358 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:30.400 you know, instilling that belief and instilling that confidence that 359 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:33.359 they are a top ten team and deserve to be 360 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:33.960 where they are. 361 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:38.880 Last year, Jake struggled. Jake Raetzlof's struggle. He lost all 362 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:41.680 four of the starts he had. But I was told 363 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:45.079 early on Austin in the process that this is not 364 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:47.440 a quarterback competition, even though that's kind of what they 365 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:49.920 were presenting, and Jake had really put in the work 366 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:52.960 to grab that job earlier than most of us learned 367 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:56.440 and understood. And look, I will say, there are still 368 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:58.880 moments that you're kind of a little bit nervous. He 369 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:02.119 makes some it some some throws, some decisions that are 370 00:18:02.920 --> 00:18:04.759 very risky, but ultimately he's. 371 00:18:04.599 --> 00:18:05.920 Been very, very good. 372 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:10.599 And he was picked by most media preseason prognostications as among, 373 00:18:10.680 --> 00:18:13.839 if not the worst quarterback in this league, and by 374 00:18:13.880 --> 00:18:16.160 most metrics, he's either the best or one of the 375 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:17.960 top two or three. What stood out most to you 376 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:21.880 about the way Jake has played this year, I. 377 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:24.240 Think, I mean, going back to what he said about 378 00:18:24.319 --> 00:18:27.079 about you know, maybe the word being that there wasn't 379 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:31.240 a QB competition, I would I don't know how true that. 380 00:18:31.319 --> 00:18:33.839 I mean, I know that's what they were saying, That's 381 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:36.559 what you know, maybe was coming out of provo. But 382 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:40.359 there's always a QB competition, especially when you know you 383 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:42.920 got somebody like Gary Bohannon, who was a Big twelve 384 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:46.160 Player of the Year kind of waiting in the wings, right, 385 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:52.119 and so you know when Jake struggled against SMU, it 386 00:18:52.119 --> 00:18:54.759 would have been easy for him to maybe second guess himself, 387 00:18:57.160 --> 00:19:00.319 maybe hesitate and and and maybe getting to his head 388 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:02.960 a little bit, only because he knows somebody he's on 389 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:06.400 a short lease, he knows somebody's waiting to take his spot. 390 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:10.359 He has the entire country basically criticizing him, the entire 391 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:13.319 BAU fan base criticizing, you know, the move to play 392 00:19:13.400 --> 00:19:15.880 him and to start him when you got somebody like 393 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:17.839 Gary waiting in the wings, and for him to come 394 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:21.160 back against Wyoming and answer the call and then from 395 00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:23.759 that point on continue to answer the call, you know, 396 00:19:23.880 --> 00:19:26.680 just says a lot about his character and his swagger. 397 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:29.559 I do think the fact that a Rod has been 398 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:31.440 able to use his legs a little bit has maybe 399 00:19:31.440 --> 00:19:35.920 freed up his mind. You know, sometimes sometimes you got 400 00:19:35.920 --> 00:19:38.880 to do things like that get get a player maybe 401 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:42.440