WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.399 --> 00:00:06.960 Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow. 2 00:00:06.719 --> 00:00:07.960 And I'm Catherine Hileco. 3 00:00:08.279 --> 00:00:11.759 Every Thursday, we're bringing you a library find, a pick 4 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:14.919 from our archives, and a parenting or pop culture tidbit 5 00:00:15.160 --> 00:00:19.920 or two. Let's start with Catherine's library find of the week. 6 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:24.960 As you might remember, our library is currently closed because 7 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:28.519 we're in the process of moving for the third time, 8 00:00:30.440 --> 00:00:33.920 the second time since I've been employed there. But so 9 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:40.679 in order to keep us occupied and paid during this point, 10 00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:43.520 during this transition time when we cannot be in the 11 00:00:43.560 --> 00:00:48.479 physical building, we have some work at home projects that 12 00:00:48.520 --> 00:00:52.159 we are doing, and one of them is it's we 13 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:59.039 call it the obituary project. So our library has a 14 00:00:59.119 --> 00:01:06.000 genealogy and local history librarian, and it has a database 15 00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:13.599 of obituaries and other death notices and information that it 16 00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:18.959 is creating and keeping and maintaining. So part of the 17 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:23.680 process is that we are assigned a month and year 18 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:28.359 and we use a tool called newspapers dot Com, and 19 00:01:28.480 --> 00:01:32.079 we go and look at our local newspaper from that month, 20 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:36.079 and we look through all every page and look for 21 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:41.280 anything that says an obituary, a death notice, you know 22 00:01:41.359 --> 00:01:45.239 so and so died whatever, and we plug the as 23 00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:49.480 much information as we can glean into this database. So 24 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:54.120 two things. One is if you are interested in genealogy 25 00:01:54.319 --> 00:01:58.959 or family history, or just even the history of your 26 00:01:59.280 --> 00:02:03.439 home or your community, newspapers. Dot com is a cool 27 00:02:03.560 --> 00:02:07.640 resource which I think I'm pretty sure it you have 28 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:10.879 to pay to have a subscription, but your local library 29 00:02:11.319 --> 00:02:15.120 will most likely have a subscription that you can access. 30 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:20.280 And it's a lot easier to read than microfilm, which 31 00:02:20.759 --> 00:02:24.719 I have not tried to use for many, many years. 32 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:27.159 Especially remember microfilm. 33 00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:30.120 Yeah, it's not it's not fun. 34 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:34.800 This is like it though there was something so visceral 35 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:35.319 about it. 36 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:41.280 Yeah, this is like basically, you know, just JPEGs of 37 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:47.599 these pages of this newspaper. And as in the course 38 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:53.680 of looking for obituaries, you really like I've been reading 39 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:58.120 my assignments currently have been like nineteen oh four, nineteen 40 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:03.719 oh three, nineteen hundred and so there's not an obituary section. 41 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:11.759 There's not. Everything is completely just random international news, national news, 42 00:03:11.800 --> 00:03:18.599 local news, completely fictional things, advertisements. It's all just like 43 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:22.199 thrown on the page and you just have to kind 44 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:24.680 of pick through it. But you get a lot of 45 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:29.039 really entertaining things. In addition, to the ads, which are fun, 46 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:34.639 but I periodically just clip things because they're so fun. 47 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:38.599 For example, the headline. This headline grabbed me as I 48 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:48.240 think it would you Panama hats still missing subtitle or subheading. 49 00:03:48.479 --> 00:03:52.199 Six young men lost their much valued hats at dance 50 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:57.280 Friday night. Oh and then there is a like five 51 00:03:57.400 --> 00:04:01.680 hundred words about these hats and how they were lost 52 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:05.680 at this dance. The panamas in question were of the 53 00:04:05.719 --> 00:04:09.520 fifteen or twenty dollars rock variety, some of them more 54 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:12.759 than that, treasured by their owners as the apple of 55 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:16.879 their eye or eyes question mark, the sole barrier between 56 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:22.240 themselves and sunstroke. Goes on to, you know, describe the 57 00:04:22.279 --> 00:04:25.199 whole situation that they put their hats on the top 58 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:27.680 of this piano while they were dancing, and then they 59 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:33.120 went back and they were gone, oh madly. They searched 60 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:36.079 through the crowd in the hall on the veranda about 61 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:38.519 the pier and the beach, but the hats had vanished 62 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:41.480 as completely as though the lake had swallowed them. 63 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:44.000 It was a lot more fun to be a newspaper 64 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:46.199 writer back there, right, yeah. 65 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:52.120 Yeah. The Young Sextet returned with the breezes blowing unrestrained 66 00:04:52.199 --> 00:04:55.920 through their tresses. They had no hats. 67 00:04:57.319 --> 00:04:58.639 It is just lovely. 68 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:01.240 So that was a fun And then the other one 69 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:02.079 I'm going to just. 70 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:03.800 Give a shout out to it is there is there 71 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:04.720 a writer for that? 72 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:08.759 Oh no, no, no, no, nobody gets credit, no no bolence. 73 00:05:09.240 --> 00:05:11.279 That was lovely whoever. That was a tip of the 74 00:05:11.480 --> 00:05:12.240 stolen at. 75 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:16.399 Exactly to your memory, to your memory from July twenty fifth, 76 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:21.639 nineteen oh four. The other one this is this is 77 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:26.879 also from the editors, uncredited. And on the other way, 78 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:31.639 the announcement yesterday of the engagement of Joseph E. Zickler 79 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:36.720 and miss Edith Heinz was an error. Some person short 80 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:42.519 on sense sent the information on a postal card, forging 81 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:46.240 there too the signature of mister Joseph e. Zickler, the 82 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:51.360 alleged party to the engagement. This postal card has been 83 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:55.920 turned over to the postal authorities, and the idiotic joker, 84 00:05:56.240 --> 00:06:00.360 if discovered, will receive the proper penalty for misusing the 85 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:02.920 mails and forgery. 86 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:07.000 Are we sure it wasn't the prospective bride? 87 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:14.360 They are very salty about this. Persons who attempt to 88 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:17.399 use the Crescent that's the newspaper as the vehicle of 89 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:23.319 such full proceedings will be dealt with without mercy, So 90 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:29.439 don't try this again, Oh dear, be dealt with without mercy. 91 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:33.160 So yeah, he reminds me of I've probably mentioned this 92 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:36.839 before the uh my son's buddy who was not online 93 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:39.480 but suddenly had a Facebook page that seemed to exist 94 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:45.199 mostly to send love notes to this girl who liked him. 95 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:49.879 So you know, sometimes I imagine the editors of the 96 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:52.360 Crescent would have been quite cross with her. 97 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:56.279 Yes, for doing such a thing. Yeah, maybe it was 98 00:06:56.439 --> 00:06:58.160 miss edith Heintz, who I. 99 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:01.399 Kind of wonder put it in the paper. 100 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:03.720 Right, he'll finally have. 101 00:07:07.319 --> 00:07:09.720 I'm just going to skip over the proposal part and. 102 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:18.639 Yeah, right, just right in there. But apparently mister Zickler 103 00:07:18.879 --> 00:07:26.160 was not not swayed by this, because he immediately went 104 00:07:26.360 --> 00:07:29.360 to complain to the paper. 105 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:32.720 Or possibly his parents if they do not like Yes, 106 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:36.160 it sounds like more likely it might be the parents 107 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:38.560 that are upset, But depending on how the youth of 108 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:43.279 these people, Yes, they're both well into adulthood I suppose. Still, 109 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:46.920 it seems like you could write an entire soap opera 110 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:47.759 episode about that. 111 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:56.600 Yes, comedy one of the two. So if you if 112 00:07:56.639 --> 00:08:01.600 you are looking for similar amusements. I recommend newspapers dot com. 113 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:02.759 That is delightful. 114 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:06.399 You can browse through papers. You know, you could go 115 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:10.959 and find your own birth announcement. One of my coworkers 116 00:08:10.959 --> 00:08:17.079 actually accidentally ran into her great grandparents' wedding announcement, which 117 00:08:17.519 --> 00:08:23.759 was factual. They actually got married. So yeah, it's uh, 118 00:08:23.879 --> 00:08:26.439 it's pretty cool. It's fun nice. 119 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:28.959 That is so if you don't care for the news 120 00:08:29.240 --> 00:08:32.480 of the current day, right, go back, just. 121 00:08:32.519 --> 00:08:34.600 To rewind at one hundred or so years. 122 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:38.399 Yeah, and when the worst thing that could happen to 123 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:39.399 you is your hat was. 124 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:44.679 Stolen, Yes, exactly, that's. 125 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:45.720 Bad enough to get in the paper. 126 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:49.320 Pretty well, they're much valued hats. 127 00:08:49.799 --> 00:08:52.240 They're much valued hats. 128 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:58.120 So let's hear. Let's hear what you're recommending. 129 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:00.919 You've got. Usually you recommendable book and I talk about 130 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:03.039 something else. Today you talk about something else, and I'm 131 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:07.879 recommending books. Over the holiday, I went on vacation with 132 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:10.919 my family, and while they ran around doing fun things, 133 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:14.039 I laid on the couch with AirPods in my ears, 134 00:09:14.600 --> 00:09:19.759 finishing some books on Audible that I had been working on, 135 00:09:19.879 --> 00:09:23.000 especially A Gentleman in Moscow, which is like twenty some hours. 136 00:09:23.039 --> 00:09:26.240 I mean, it's like a lot. And I finally had 137 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:31.159 time to just sit and listen to it relatively uninterrupted. 138 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:34.440 This is the kind of vacation person I am. 139 00:09:34.600 --> 00:09:35.320 Go have fun. 140 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:40.320 Everybody here, WA's the room. You know, we're all sitting 141 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:42.919 in this chair on the lobby. You guys go play bango. 142 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:43.360 Right. 143 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:47.080 So, but I, as I knew I would, and as 144 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:49.320 I think I may have mentioned, I was in the 145 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:53.200 process of I really enjoyed it. It's really good. You're right, 146 00:09:53.639 --> 00:09:56.200 it was really good. I'm very, very glad. I listened 147 00:09:56.240 --> 00:10:00.960 to it with a lovely narrator with a British accent, 148 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:06.480 just narrating it just so. It was interesting though in 149 00:10:06.559 --> 00:10:09.679 reading it to see where they kind of judged stuff up. 150 00:10:14.039 --> 00:10:15.759 It's like, oh this is where this thing, Oh well 151 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:19.799 it doesn't quite happen, Like yeah, okay, Well it was 152 00:10:19.879 --> 00:10:24.279 much calmer. There was much less, much less drama, but 153 00:10:25.559 --> 00:10:31.840 still just a really good book and if you enjoy audiobooks, 154 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:35.080 a really pleasant telling of it on Audible. And I 155 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:38.200 also managed to fit in a much shorter work called 156 00:10:38.279 --> 00:10:42.000 Welcome to Pawnee by Jim O'Hare who played Jerry, and 157 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:44.519 I thought it was going to be mostly a book 158 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:48.279 about parks and rec and it is, but it's also 159 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:53.759 kind of a biographical book about him, about which, gotta 160 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:58.320 be honest, I'm less interested, but you know, he wrote 161 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:02.879 the book, so what are you gonna do? I enjoyed it. 162 00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:04.799 It was interesting. I don't know that I learned anything 163 00:11:04.840 --> 00:11:07.320 I hadn't heard before. But I love the show. I 164 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:10.840 always like, you know, hearing about various different things that happen, 165 00:11:10.879 --> 00:11:13.519 and what all the weird thing about it? And I 166 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:15.720 had the same issue with the book I read that 167 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:19.000 was by Judy Dench, but not read by Judy Dench, 168 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:24.519 by somebody pretending to be Judy Dench, is that in 169 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:28.559 writing this book he got contributions from most of the 170 00:11:28.600 --> 00:11:31.759 actors and from a lot of the production people who 171 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:36.080 you know, Hell, there's a narration and then there's a 172 00:11:36.159 --> 00:11:40.159 quote from so and so, and I guess I don't 173 00:11:40.200 --> 00:11:42.360 know what the deal is with audio books, if you 174 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:45.600 never get the person, or if these people just have 175 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:48.519 much enough stuff to do that they don't want to 176 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:52.879 read their little contributions to the book. But it's actors 177 00:11:53.399 --> 00:11:56.320 reading things by these people whose voices I am very familiar, 178 00:11:57.480 --> 00:12:02.559 and it was just weird. Yeah, it just took me 179 00:12:02.679 --> 00:12:05.639 right out of it every time. Whoever did Mike Shore 180 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:08.960 If that was not Mike Shore, sure did a good 181 00:12:09.039 --> 00:12:12.399 job of it in imitating him, as I'm quite familiar 182 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:16.879 with Mike Schure's voice from the poscast. Yeah, really did 183 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:19.600 sound like him, So kudos if that was somebody else, 184 00:12:19.679 --> 00:12:23.919 But some of the other ones, I know what Chris 185 00:12:23.960 --> 00:12:25.759 Bratt sounds like, and you are not Chris Brat, or 186 00:12:25.799 --> 00:12:28.279 are you Adam Scott? Nor are you Retta? Nor are 187 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:32.919 you There were no quotes by Amy Poehler, interestingly, pretty 188 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:36.919 much everything. Maybe one by Robb Loo I'm not sure, 189 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:40.960 but so that was just that was just a fault 190 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:45.480 of listening it in audible as an audio book, reading 191 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:47.440 it on the page. It would have been just delightful 192 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:50.639 to see all these quotes written by these people. But 193 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:56.399 listening to them does not work right. You know, trap 194 00:12:56.440 --> 00:12:58.360 your friends in the sound stage and make them read 195 00:12:58.360 --> 00:12:59.200 their stupid things. 196 00:12:59.519 --> 00:13:01.759 I mean, how along will it whatever really take? 197 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:08.440 But probably they. I mean, if you're a professional performer, 198 00:13:08.759 --> 00:13:11.240 you wish to be compensated for your time. Yeah, to 199 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:14.919 record your voice on something that's going to make other 200 00:13:14.919 --> 00:13:17.919 people money so I think it's just with the j 201 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:21.679 Judy Dench. I think she maybe was just when they 202 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:25.080 did actually have her voice later on, she was so 203 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:28.759 much older sounding that might have been a problem for 204 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:32.320 her to read the whole book. But anyway, so that 205 00:13:32.480 --> 00:13:34.639 was I will give you that. I would say, if 206 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:37.320 you're going to read it, get the hard copy and 207 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:39.679 just read itways on the page. It will be so 208 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:43.120 much because you can then say it in those people's voices. 209 00:13:42.919 --> 00:13:45.080 Right, you can hear it in the way you wish 210 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:45.679 to hear it. 211 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:51.120 Yeah. So I am now starting a book called Everybody 212 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:55.279 Behaves Badly by Leslie M. M Bloom, and it is 213 00:13:55.919 --> 00:13:59.919 about Hemingway and the writing of the Sun Also Rises 214 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:03.799 and sort of the launching of his career. And so 215 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:07.759 far I've read, uh, you know, an hour or so 216 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:11.639 of it and found it very enjoyable. And also it 217 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:16.720 crosses off my English major requirement for the year. Right, Okay, 218 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:19.159 you can you can listen to the book about the 219 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:23.840 TV show, but you got to listen to something literary. 220 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:27.360 So this is okay, I'm gonna learn about learn more 221 00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:31.240 about Hemingway. I read The Sun Also Rises Sometime way bad, Right, 222 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:36.240 I read stuff like that. Yes, so it'll be so far. 223 00:14:36.440 --> 00:14:38.759 I'm finding it very enjoyable, and it's going to be 224 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:41.360 all about historical bad behavior, sort of like you can 225 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:42.519 get at newspapers dot com. 226 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:45.960 Yeah, we come around. I wonder if Hemingway ever wore 227 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:47.720 a Panama hat. I bet he did. 228 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:51.000 If so, I bet he held on to it. And 229 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:53.799 you know, did anybody ever ever say they were married? Well, 230 00:14:53.799 --> 00:14:57.720 he's married in this part of the book, so yeah. 231 00:14:56.960 --> 00:15:00.480 He was married quite a few times, I think, but. 232 00:15:00.519 --> 00:15:02.879 He undoubtedly had things said about him in the newspapers 233 00:15:02.919 --> 00:15:04.159 with which he would wish to quarrel. 234 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:06.399 So, yes, that is true. 235 00:15:06.840 --> 00:15:10.440 It's all the same nice And now we move on 236 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:13.159 to an archive that appears to be book related. 237 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:18.559 It is. Yes, well, so five years ago we took 238 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:23.080 a look at the best selling parenting books on Amazon, 239 00:15:23.279 --> 00:15:26.200 and they also have a list of most wished for, 240 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:29.639 which I think is like put on a wish list. 241 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:31.320 I guess, I guess. 242 00:15:32.159 --> 00:15:34.320 So we took a look at them back then, and 243 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:38.679 you know, did our usual complaints about them, And so 244 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:41.840 I thought, hey, let's see five years later, things have changed. 245 00:15:42.559 --> 00:15:46.320 Of course, not really, there's still a potty training book 246 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:53.039 in the top five the top five. The number one 247 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:57.159 best selling is something called Atomic Habits, which is not 248 00:15:57.240 --> 00:15:58.480 a parenting book at all. 249 00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:02.279 Like maybeook I read that book? 250 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:03.679 Is it about parenting? 251 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:09.080 It's not right, it's about about you know. Honestly, I 252 00:16:09.480 --> 00:16:11.919 still get like emails from the author of it. I 253 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:14.879 signed up for his suggestions on how to get things done. 254 00:16:16.200 --> 00:16:19.799 But I mean, creating good habits for yourself as a 255 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:23.120 parent is a good thing, and sure instilling good habits 256 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:25.159 in your kids. So that may be. It may be 257 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:28.240 the same impulse that causes me to invest in a 258 00:16:28.279 --> 00:16:33.559 complete new planning and data state system every year, and 259 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:36.720 you know, a habit tracker and all that stuff. You 260 00:16:36.759 --> 00:16:39.039 buy the book Atomic Habits and you think this is it. 261 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:43.559 This is a ship shape. I'm going to get everything organized, all. 262 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:45.799 The things in, all the people are going to get 263 00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:50.759 taken care of by this book, right yep. Yeah, So 264 00:16:50.879 --> 00:16:53.360 that's that's at the top. Then the next one is 265 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:58.679 Anxious Generation, which I will not be reading things anyway, 266 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:02.759 I don't need to add and hate. Yes, it's all 267 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:08.279 about how basically technology is making children anxious and yeah, 268 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:12.440 you know, stop it with the screens like to em 269 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:13.279 not going to read it. 270 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:18.920 Maybe you'll read it on Kindle? Can you get it 271 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:19.559 on a screen? 272 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:22.319 Can I listen to it as an audio book? 273 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:27.440 We welst ice roll social media exactly. 274 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:31.880 So that's number two. Then the classic What to Expect 275 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:35.240 when You're Expecting, which we talked about five years ago. 276 00:17:35.559 --> 00:17:38.680 We did told and told. Was it Nicole that you 277 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:40.000 could need a whole bagel? No? 278 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:41.400 That was me, that was you. 279 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:44.359 Yeah, so you have let just like put that in 280 00:17:44.440 --> 00:17:47.160 the dustbin for eternity for a. 281 00:17:47.279 --> 00:17:52.519 Yeah, I mean this was twenty three years ago, but 282 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:55.200 still I'm still mad. 283 00:17:55.359 --> 00:17:58.880 Obviously I have never had any reason to purchase or 284 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:02.119 even look at that book because I was expecting in 285 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:02.960 a whole different way. 286 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:04.920 Yes, you certainly probably. 287 00:18:04.519 --> 00:18:07.200 Have an adoption version of that, but even then, adoption 288 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:09.519 has so many different permutations that you can't. 289 00:18:09.759 --> 00:18:14.160 Yeah, well, and they have what to expect the first year, 290 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:17.359 I think they probably have like toddler and preschooler. But yeah, 291 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:21.039 you're you're fine, but you don't need to go there. 292 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:25.680 So then the the last Stanley green Span was my 293 00:18:25.759 --> 00:18:27.920 grop right for those years. 294 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:32.640 The other book that does sound like a parenting book 295 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:37.880 is The Whole Brainchild twelve Revolutionary strategies to nurture your 296 00:18:37.960 --> 00:18:42.640 child's developing mind by an MD and a PhD. 297 00:18:43.079 --> 00:18:48.799 So okay, sounds well, then MD and a PhD. Well, 298 00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:51.319 this is it more question. 299 00:18:51.799 --> 00:18:55.599 This is the definitive answer. 300 00:18:57.240 --> 00:19:01.559 Because fortunately all kids are exactly the same and they 301 00:19:01.640 --> 00:19:05.160 develop in exactly the same ways and exactly the same timetables. 302 00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:06.920 So all you have to do is do what these 303 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:09.400 experts tell you and poof perfect case. 304 00:19:09.519 --> 00:19:12.400 Yes, I will say it is kind of cool. I 305 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:14.160 don't think they were doing this five years ago on 306 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:18.720 Amazon that if you scroll down you can see passages 307 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:23.880 that people have highlighted in their kindle, like that's it. 308 00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:26.000 Boy, do we know when we highlight things on our 309 00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:28.319 kindle that they're going to go on the ams, go on. 310 00:19:28.279 --> 00:19:32.240 The Amazon page? Children are Children are much more apt 311 00:19:32.240 --> 00:19:34.759 to share and talk while building something or writing in 312 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:36.599 the car than when you sit down and look them 313 00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:39.000 in the face. That is a known fact. 314 00:19:39.759 --> 00:19:42.680 Yes, that is something that we can figure out by ourselves. 315 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:45.640 Yes, but that is something that has been highlighted just 316 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:50.039 so you know. Soting and then the. 317 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:51.000 Five star reviews. 318 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:53.000 People are loving it, people like it. 319 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:54.880 The people for whom it is not working don't have 320 00:19:54.920 --> 00:19:57.119 time to write reviews on. 321 00:19:56.039 --> 00:19:58.960 It because they're not going to be going there. 322 00:20:01.519 --> 00:20:03.160 Busy chasing children around the room. 323 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:05.720 It's only one hundred and ninety two pages. 324 00:20:05.839 --> 00:20:12.039 That's that's pretty how many hours on autible? Let's see, 325 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:17.079 I don't care. I'm not gonna listen. I've done this so. 326 00:20:18.759 --> 00:20:22.000 Six hours and fourteen minutes. See sure sure. 327 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:23.880 Not g it right off? How can it be if 328 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:29.240 it's only success frequently? Lot together raising? Along with this 329 00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:33.720 book is Raising Good Humans a mindful guide to breaking 330 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:37.079 the cycle of reactive I would have to collick the 331 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:39.720 link to get the last word, Tom, who I don't care? 332 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:42.839 They lost you with a mindful. 333 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:44.920 Mindful guide, like I don't want to be mindful? What 334 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:49.319 are you talking about? I'm to see my hands. 335 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:54.799 Yeah, okay, breaking the cycle of reactive parenting and raising 336 00:20:55.039 --> 00:20:59.279 kind confident kids. See it's so easy that you can 337 00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:01.839 learn how to do that in a book, right, because 338 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:06.160 you just need to press the right buttons and poof, 339 00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:12.000 there you go, kind confident kids who wouldn't want no drama, 340 00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:15.720 discipline the whole brain way to calm the chaos and 341 00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:19.559 nurture your child's developing mind. 342 00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:20.480 There we go. 343 00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:25.200 Oh, people, people, people, Anybody who's listening to this podcast 344 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:27.039 for any length of time knows what we say about 345 00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:31.480 parenting books except the ones that we we write, which 346 00:21:32.599 --> 00:21:34.599 you should probably just run and get right away. But 347 00:21:34.759 --> 00:21:39.359 other than that, every parent is different, every child is different, 348 00:21:39.359 --> 00:21:42.240 every circumstances different, every little brain is different. There's no 349 00:21:42.279 --> 00:21:46.039 one good way. So, as I said the last time, 350 00:21:46.519 --> 00:21:50.359 the solution is to read a whole bunch of this 351 00:21:50.440 --> 00:21:53.839 crap and then pick out the one tiny thing that 352 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:56.400 makes sense to you from each one exactly, and then 353 00:21:56.440 --> 00:21:58.839 develop your own system, and then write a book. 354 00:21:59.079 --> 00:21:59.880 Then write a book. 355 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:07.640 I have still here in my office, my little parenting library, 356 00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:11.519 bristling with little little stickers that I put on the 357 00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:15.839 pages that I found useful, so I would be like, 358 00:22:16.119 --> 00:22:18.839 where was that thing? Somebody said this. 359 00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:21.759 Situation in here somewhere? 360 00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:27.319 I think if I opened any of these books everything 361 00:22:27.319 --> 00:22:33.119 would fall out, but I can still see them. Golly well. 362 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:38.920 It's interesting that the wished for books are the same basically, 363 00:22:39.039 --> 00:22:42.759 except what to expect when you're expecting is not wished for. 364 00:22:43.839 --> 00:22:47.119 So mothers in law are giving. 365 00:22:47.160 --> 00:22:51.279 Somebody's buying it for these people. Yes, and the and 366 00:22:51.319 --> 00:22:53.799 the potty training one is not wished for as well. 367 00:22:53.799 --> 00:22:55.960 People are like, no, I'll just figure it out when 368 00:22:56.000 --> 00:23:00.960 the time comes. But the time on them the two 369 00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:03.839 there's two on baby signs, you know, like how to 370 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:06.880 teach your baby sign language that. Oh wow, those are 371 00:23:06.920 --> 00:23:08.799 showing up and he wished for a section. 372 00:23:09.440 --> 00:23:11.680 Okay, but you know your mother in law is not 373 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:15.400 going to get you that. We didn't. I don't know 374 00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:17.440 you would want them to do that. Teach them to 375 00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:23.039 talk to talk, yes, exactly here, body trained them. Use 376 00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:26.599 this book. I got it for you anyway. Yes, it 377 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:30.839 shouldn't be a diaper. You're babying them, infantilizing. I said, 378 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:33.759 that was what I was told. I was infanti by 379 00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:37.920 not using suppositories to force him. 380 00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:40.119 No, oh my. 381 00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:45.720 Gosh, I said, very This was a a school occupational therapist. 382 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:48.720 And I said, not going to do that. He'll be 383 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:51.799 ready when he's ready. And in fact, he was, this 384 00:23:51.880 --> 00:23:53.440 is why we don't need these books, because your kid's 385 00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:54.759 gonna be ready when they're ready, and they're gonna do 386 00:23:54.759 --> 00:23:56.160 what they're gonna do when they're gonna do what they're 387 00:23:56.200 --> 00:23:56.559 gonna do. 388 00:23:57.160 --> 00:24:01.720 And uh, you know, yes, that's like the dentist telling 389 00:24:01.759 --> 00:24:06.400 me to telling me to stop my kid from sucking 390 00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:12.039 her thumb when I had just had a baby. I'm like, 391 00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:19.599 I will not be doing that. I'm just trying to 392 00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:20.519 get through the night. 393 00:24:21.119 --> 00:24:23.920 You can write a book about bad parenting advice right 394 00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:30.160 from professionals. That's right. Oh. The teacher told me that 395 00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:32.960 I must take the keys away from my son, that 396 00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:37.160 keys were deaf to him. It's like, my god, it 397 00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:38.680 is the only thing. It is the thing that got 398 00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:40.799 him to talk because he wanted to ask people questions 399 00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:44.680 about keys. All right, just stay with us, stick with it. 400 00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:49.160 Yeah yeah, I mean, thank goodness for our family. 401 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:51.359