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<v Speaker 1>Get ready for October sixth, twenty four. Allegedly, according to

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<v Speaker 1>that thing we call a calendar, this is indeed the

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<v Speaker 1>show you were looking for. How do I know that

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<v Speaker 1>because you're hearing it. Anyway, we're live on the stream

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<v Speaker 1>on a Sunday here on ocelly dot com. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>little unusual, but so is the guest, so is the discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>And oh, by the way, it's actually Monday where he's sitting.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll get to that in a moment. We often

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<v Speaker 1>talk about nine to eleven. It is October, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>past the season for all the recognition of the anniversaries. However,

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<v Speaker 1>recently on the ocell and the Greek rated Why which

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<v Speaker 1>is subscriber only and only available through Patreon, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Greek brought a guest, and he brought another guest,

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<v Speaker 1>and the second guest he brought. The first one was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>It was about weather and this and that, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was great and all. But the second guest is somebody

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<v Speaker 1>he had talked about for years and I had never

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<v Speaker 1>bothered to examine because I am quite well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been infiltrated, I've been saturated, I've been absolutely nauseated,

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<v Speaker 1>even by a lot of the ridiculousness that has gone

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<v Speaker 1>along with the nine to eleven stuff, because I know

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<v Speaker 1>that the government lied to me. I also know there

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<v Speaker 1>are some people who have crazy ideas about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>lasers from space okay, And I know there's others that

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<v Speaker 1>make up really strange things. I have gotten to a

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<v Speaker 1>point where, look, the disaster that took place in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and one, the thing that I was in close

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<v Speaker 1>proximity to, I almost didn't want to cover it anymore

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<v Speaker 1>because there's almost nothing new to say. People want to

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<v Speaker 1>just argue with me as to whether it happened or not,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've got people contacting me all the time telling

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<v Speaker 1>me nobody died. Hard for me to believe that, since

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<v Speaker 1>again I lived in New Jersey. I tried to get

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<v Speaker 1>to New York that day to dig people out of

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<v Speaker 1>the rubble when it was an active emergency, before we

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<v Speaker 1>had any idea what in the world it actually happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And I supported people ever after there for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years, not bothering to ask any questions anyway. The

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<v Speaker 1>guy that the Greek brought on the show has a

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<v Speaker 1>point of view that I've never explored on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we've been over the demolition possibility, We've been

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<v Speaker 1>over the chemicals. I've had people from architects and engineers,

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<v Speaker 1>you know this. We had Richard Gage on, We had

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<v Speaker 1>all these other people on who were nine to eleven

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<v Speaker 1>experts one way or another, who had told me about

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<v Speaker 1>the film, who told me about things that were missing,

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<v Speaker 1>who told me about different broadcasts at different times, and

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<v Speaker 1>foreign countries maybe that were involved one way or another. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is again a unique thing, and I'm actually privileged

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<v Speaker 1>to have a special guest with me, Dimitri. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>got to tell you he's got a YouTube channel, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a telegram channel, he's got a bunch of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you go, okay, just let me be careful here.

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<v Speaker 1>If you go to nine eleventhology dot com, okay, which

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<v Speaker 1>is nine one one t h O l O g

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<v Speaker 1>y dot com, there you can begin to search Dmitri

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<v Speaker 1>Kalazov's work. Hopefully I pronounced the Russian name correctly, because

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<v Speaker 1>I do screw up Russian names. I'm good with the Italian,

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<v Speaker 1>but not the Russian. Wonder why Kalizov which is spelled

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<v Speaker 1>k h A l e z o V. And in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>if you go to YouTube and you go at Dmitri

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<v Speaker 1>Kalizov Dmitri spelled d I, M I t R I

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<v Speaker 1>and Kalizov again k h A l E z o V.

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<v Speaker 1>If you go there on YouTube, you can track down

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<v Speaker 1>his work. And I'm also gonna give you a link

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<v Speaker 1>to a telegram channel. We're gonna put all of that

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<v Speaker 1>in the chatroom at Ocelli dot com and it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>in the show notes. But anyway, enough out of my

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<v Speaker 1>mouth on a Sunday, Dmitri, First of all, how are you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm okay, good evening, good evening.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know this is for.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, it's actually morning because I live in Thailand. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was just gonna say, you're in this evening. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why I say, God.

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<v Speaker 1>You're in Thailand. It's evening for me, it's mourning for you.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is a fascinating discussion. Let's get to know

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<v Speaker 1>you a little bit. I learned in the discussion with

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<v Speaker 1>the Greek the other day last week, really that that

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<v Speaker 1>you had been in the I'm not sure if it's

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<v Speaker 1>the Russian military or if you're old enough to have

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<v Speaker 1>actually been in the Soviet military and transmitted it to

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<v Speaker 1>the Russian so, okay, Soviet military. You answered that right away.

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<v Speaker 1>When did you join the Soviet military? How old were you?

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<v Speaker 1>What year was that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? I was sixteen years when I joined the Soviet military.

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<v Speaker 2>It was in nineteen eighty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen eighty two. Okay, So you joined the Soviet military

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<v Speaker 1>in eighty two and you were sixteen. Jeez, let's see

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<v Speaker 1>now that makes you only six years older than me. Fascinating. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you were a Soviet soldier and then at some point

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<v Speaker 1>did you become a Russian soldier? Did you just transfer

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<v Speaker 1>from them?

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<v Speaker 2>I have never become because when Soviet Union was let's say,

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<v Speaker 2>collapsed or disappeared, divorced. Put it this way, I no

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<v Speaker 2>longer want to join the Russian military. So I just

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<v Speaker 2>dismissed from the Soviet military and I became a freeman.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah. Okay, So when the Soviet military was over, you

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<v Speaker 1>were finished with it. So what year was that about?

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<v Speaker 2>You mean my position and the military?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, because you know, just because they tell us.

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<v Speaker 2>When when I joined the military when I was sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>then I just have to study first in the military

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<v Speaker 2>school for five years, and then I was a commissioned

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<v Speaker 2>officer after that. That was in nineteen eighty seven, and

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<v Speaker 2>after that I was appointed to a position in the

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, after finishing the military school, I was appointed

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<v Speaker 2>to a position within the so called twelfth Chief Directorate

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<v Speaker 2>of the Soviet Military AH. And that twelfth Chief Directorate

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<v Speaker 2>is an organization responsible for the nuclear weapons.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, that's responsible for nuclear weapons. Now, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>through other directorates because I studied the jfk assassination and

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<v Speaker 1>had to study the stuff involving Oswald and his meetings

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<v Speaker 1>with certain people that were tied to the KGB. And

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<v Speaker 1>these different direct directorates actually are very specialized.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a KGB that is Department of the Military

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<v Speaker 2>of the Ministry of Defense. The official name is the

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<v Speaker 2>twelfth Chief Directorate of the Defense Ministry.

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<v Speaker 1>Right But these directorates, I'm just saying, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>division in Soviet in Soviet operations when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>military and intelligence, divided into very specific directorates that have jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>And like I said, I wound up studying the KGB

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<v Speaker 1>guys because they interacted with various people. I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 1>know the story of Nochenko and you know the story

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<v Speaker 1>of the people that met with lee RB Oswald, Say

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<v Speaker 1>in Mexico City, you might have heard these things over

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<v Speaker 1>the years, and of course there was a suspicion of

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<v Speaker 1>Soviet involvement when Kennedy was assassinated and all that nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get into any of that with you,

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<v Speaker 1>because we got a deeper topic to go to, but

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted a little bit of your background, because the

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<v Speaker 1>Soviet military disbands quite a bit before nine to eleven occurs.

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<v Speaker 1>But you end up taking an interest in nine to eleven. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I assume you're still over in that part of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>You weren't in America in two thousand and one as

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<v Speaker 1>far as I know, So how did you become even

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<v Speaker 1>interested outside of the fact that the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>world got interested in what the hell just went on

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<v Speaker 1>here in New York and Washington, How did you even

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<v Speaker 1>become inter rested in the topic and go deeply into

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<v Speaker 1>it outside of just watching the news and what was

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<v Speaker 1>being reported.

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<v Speaker 2>There was some quite a few aspects why I became

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<v Speaker 2>particularly interested, But the main point is that during my

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<v Speaker 2>service in the military, I mean I alslready explained to

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<v Speaker 2>you that after finishing the military school, I was sent

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<v Speaker 2>to serve in the twelfth Achieve Directorate first, and then

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<v Speaker 2>while there I was appointed to a position in the

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<v Speaker 2>smaller organization that was called the Soviet Special Control Service.

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<v Speaker 2>That was organization detecting Nuclear Explosions.

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<v Speaker 1>M detecting nuclear explosions. So you were monitoring these things

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<v Speaker 1>what across the planet?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, everyway, because they can detect any any nuclear explosion

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And the idea is to keep track of tests and

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<v Speaker 1>if anybody becoming aggressive and things like that. So that okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is sort of intelligence. This is intelligence work, right,

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<v Speaker 1>just yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, in fact, in fact, initially this organization was considered

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<v Speaker 2>to be a nuclear intelligence and initially it belongs to

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<v Speaker 2>the g r U. The gr U that is like

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<v Speaker 2>another Chief Directorate of that is responsible for the military

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<v Speaker 2>intelligence in the General Staff of the military. But after

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<v Speaker 2>that they they they when they created this organization, that

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<v Speaker 2>was the part of the g r U, but several

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<v Speaker 2>times they the whole the whole organization, the whole Special

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<v Speaker 2>Control Service was transferred from. First they transferred it from

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<v Speaker 2>the gr U to the twelf Chief Directory. After they

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<v Speaker 2>transferred that back to g r U. After that they

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<v Speaker 2>transferred that to the Commander of the Chemical Forces. After

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<v Speaker 2>that they transferred again back to the twelve chief Directory.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean several times it changed the hands this organization,

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<v Speaker 2>but initially it was from the gru That's why they

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<v Speaker 2>called it the Nuclear Intelligence before, especially in the West,

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<v Speaker 2>but in the Russia they just called it Special Control Service.

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<v Speaker 2>So while serving there, I served there for five years

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<v Speaker 2>from nineteen eighty seven and until the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>Soviet Union. And while serving there, it came to my

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<v Speaker 2>notice that divin towers of the World Trade Center in

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<v Speaker 2>New York, that was so called emergency nuclear demolition scheme,

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<v Speaker 2>how they called it in Russia, and that was based

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<v Speaker 2>on two underground nuclear charges. So that's what I knew

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<v Speaker 2>from the military, and that I knew way long before

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<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven. I knew that they still in the

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<v Speaker 1>Right, only as little as maybe maybe ten years before

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<v Speaker 1>nine to eleven, you were basically.

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<v Speaker 2>Told probably twelve fees, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, maybe twelve years somewhere in there, you're told that

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<v Speaker 1>there are existing nuclear devices, just to be clear, that

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<v Speaker 1>are underground but in the area of the World Trade Center,

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<v Speaker 1>that are meant to be part of a scheme for

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<v Speaker 1>demolition purposes. Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yes, not just demolition. What I remember it

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<v Speaker 2>was emergency demolition.

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<v Speaker 1>Emergency demolition. Okay, yes, were you was this special? Was

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<v Speaker 1>this the only one? Or were there many of these

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<v Speaker 1>types of things in many places that you were right away?

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<v Speaker 2>By the time I served in the Soviet military, I

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<v Speaker 2>only heard about the ones under trin Towers. But when

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<v Speaker 2>I already started to make my research, like in two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and six, two thousand and seven, and many people

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<v Speaker 2>begin to contact me who were concerned with that, I

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<v Speaker 2>found out that there were more. There were also one

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<v Speaker 2>in the United Nations Building in New York, in Shears

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<v Speaker 2>Tower in Chicago, and several more, and also somewhere abroad,

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<v Speaker 2>also run by the Americans. There were some in Japan,

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<v Speaker 2>some in Saudi Arabia, and also later I found that

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<v Speaker 2>probably also in the also in Malaysia, in Kuala Lumpur,

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<v Speaker 2>the capital of Malaysia. And also I found later that

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<v Speaker 2>most not confirmed, but most likely in Someway in South Korea.

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<v Speaker 1>So before the events of nine to eleven, you were

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<v Speaker 1>aware only the Twin Towers, but later, yes, you found

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<v Speaker 2>I found from the people who contacted me in like

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<v Speaker 1>Eight, and they told you about stuff that was all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place. I mean all over America for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and some other places, and all of it was controlled

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<v Speaker 2>I mean yes, of course, because they are based on

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<v Speaker 2>the nuclear charges, and the countries like Saudi Arabia, South Korea, Japan,

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<v Speaker 2>Malaysia do not have nuclear weapons and nuclear charges of

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<v Speaker 2>their own, So it should be like a commercial project

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<v Speaker 1>Well, because I'm thinking to myself, the Soviets and then

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<v Speaker 1>the Russians had control of nuclear weapons, did they have

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<v Speaker 1>some devices like this that we knew of? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I was curious about. I'm thinking what other

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But the problem is that the Russians will never

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<v Speaker 2>Demolis building. So just just too much for the Russians.

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<v Speaker 2>So that you can presume that that was the American

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<v Speaker 2>project initially, and then they just decided to go commercial

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<v Speaker 2>and they offered that to the other building developers. Like

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<v Speaker 2>those in Malaysia, in Japan and Saudi Arabia. No, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>not in Saudi Arabia. I'm sorry for mistake in the

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay, I was gonna add that was my not.

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<v Speaker 2>In Saudi Arabia. That is, I just pronounced our wrong

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<v Speaker 2>country from the United Arab emir Rates. And later I

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<v Speaker 2>also I still do not have the confirmation, but I

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<v Speaker 2>have a very strong suspicion that in South Korea also, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So United Arab Emirates is a small conglomeration of these

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<v Speaker 1>anybody countries that came together under one flag at a

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<v Speaker 1>certain point. But no, not Saudi Arabia. You mean the UAE,

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<v Speaker 1>which again including places like jarge Are and stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>that previously, and they were all under you know, British

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<v Speaker 1>and dusty the UAE as it exists today, okay, just

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<v Speaker 1>to be clear. And so, but you didn't find out

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<v Speaker 1>about that until long after the events of two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and one. Of September eleventh, two thousand and one, So

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<v Speaker 1>how did you again become informed about two thousand and one.

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<v Speaker 1>You're out of the military you're you're now not part

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<v Speaker 1>of the UH. Did you You were finished with doing

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<v Speaker 1>the other work too? You weren't with the UH, with

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? When no, I was totally free, I didn't. I

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<v Speaker 2>was not connected to the military in any manner. But

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<v Speaker 2>the problem is that because my knowledge of the existence

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<v Speaker 2>of the nuclear demolition charges under the Twin Towers was

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<v Speaker 2>very deep in my memory, I can't forget it, so

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<v Speaker 2>I just always remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's pretty crazy, crazy, you know, but sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>So when when I saw that the twin towers collapsed

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<v Speaker 2>in a very strange way, that the steel was in

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<v Speaker 2>the most part transformed into the still dust which was

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<v Speaker 2>very fluffy and offer no resistance to the falling tops

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<v Speaker 2>of the twin towers, you remember how they fall, They

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<v Speaker 2>followed the free fall speed. That means under the falling

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<v Speaker 2>tops of the towers there were no resistance. Basically, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that the steel powder was so fine that it

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<v Speaker 2>offers no more resistence than the sin air. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>just that's why it was the free fall speed. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>because if that was something like a big part of

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<v Speaker 2>the construction, they will delay the collapse. Yeah, consider so

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<v Speaker 2>she'll not be a free fall speed. That will be

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a maybe one or two seconds per per flow

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and the other thing that fell straight down too.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another thing is that you know, if it was

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<v Speaker 1>point and not fall uniform straight down, right, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you're thinking as well, right, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yes, and so on. Once I see how

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<v Speaker 2>the towers collapsed, I remember that the actually emergency demolition

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear devices under it, which I knew twelve years prior

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<v Speaker 2>to that, and it wasn't my memory anyway, So I

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<v Speaker 2>just need to connect the things. So if the towers

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<v Speaker 2>collapsed in a strange way, and I knew that there

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<v Speaker 2>were emergency nuclear demolition devices under the twin towers, should

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<v Speaker 2>be that they used them to demolish the towers. And

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<v Speaker 2>finally they called the place of the collapse of the

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<v Speaker 2>twin towers ground zero. And ground zero I mean the

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<v Speaker 2>name of ground zero was given was awarded to the

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<v Speaker 2>place twelve minutes after the collapse of the first of

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<v Speaker 2>the twin towers. Means they were already called ground zero

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<v Speaker 2>before even the second twin tower collapse. So and the

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<v Speaker 2>ground zero in English language of the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>year two thousand and one had only a single meaning,

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<v Speaker 2>a hippocenter of a nuclear explosion or its projection onto

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<v Speaker 2>the Earth's surface. So if some place is officially called

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<v Speaker 2>a hippocenter of a nuclear explosion, then should be a

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<v Speaker 2>hip center of a nuclear explosion.

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<v Speaker 1>It is very obvious, right, And now it's become a

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<v Speaker 1>common thing in English to say the epicenter of anything

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<v Speaker 1>actually can be ground zero four something right, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, But you have to understand that the American government

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<v Speaker 2>was so just per weight after the nuclear demolition of

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<v Speaker 2>the tree towers and the building seven July seven was

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<v Speaker 2>also demolished by the nuclear explorer. By the way, there

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<v Speaker 2>were three not two two and yes, and so that

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<v Speaker 2>the American government was so much concerned that they called

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<v Speaker 2>the police ground zero without thinking first what they are doing.

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<v Speaker 2>After that, they have to hide the meaning of the

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<v Speaker 2>ground zero. So they order all the dictionaries, all the

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<v Speaker 2>publishers of the dictionars dictionaries to make the new editions

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<v Speaker 2>of the dictionaries after the year two thousand and two,

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<v Speaker 2>so that they will be expanded definitions of ground zero.

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<v Speaker 2>They tried to ascribe like from three to seven new

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<v Speaker 2>meanings to the ground zero. It will not be so

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<v Speaker 2>obvious the only single meaning. But you have to understand

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<v Speaker 2>that by the end of two thousand and one, it

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<v Speaker 2>was not yet by that time American dictionaries, but only

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<v Speaker 2>a single definition of ground zero.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, within a couple of months in the real world publishing,

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<v Speaker 1>not digital digital you can instantly change things, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>in the days when you actually printed books, and you

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<v Speaker 1>had many printed books, and that's what you depended upon.

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<v Speaker 1>What you're telling me is in the course of those

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<v Speaker 1>just very few months, they had enforced this expanded definition

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<v Speaker 2>Not in a few months, not in a few months.

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<v Speaker 2>They give the order to do that. But you know

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<v Speaker 2>that it's not easier to reprint the dictionary, right, so

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<v Speaker 2>it they begin actually to printing the first few dictionaries

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<v Speaker 2>in the two thousand and two but the majority from

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and three. So it means even the dictionaries

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<v Speaker 2>printed in two thousand and two, in the earlier two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and three, many of them they still have the

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<v Speaker 2>single definition of ground zero, but after two thousand and

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<v Speaker 2>three they become more or less expanded.

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<v Speaker 1>Well again, real world printing. They would have already started

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<v Speaker 1>on the two two thousand and two dictionaries in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and one, so they would have been working on

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<v Speaker 1>that before this happened, right, So obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I tell you some funny story because I actually

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<v Speaker 2>spent a lot of time studying the dictionary. Is how

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<v Speaker 2>they changed the definition of ground zero. And I found

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<v Speaker 2>a very interesting thing that was a very famous, big

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<v Speaker 2>unabridged American dictionary and not be I think American, called

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<v Speaker 2>Random House. Random House Dictionaries is the second big English dictionary.

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<v Speaker 2>So the next web the first dictionary that has the

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<v Speaker 2>expanded definition of ground zero has the ISB a number

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<v Speaker 2>register on September eleventh, two thousand and one. Well that

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<v Speaker 2>means yeah, that means I can even send you a

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<v Speaker 2>screenshot you if you want. So that means that when America,

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<v Speaker 2>the majority of Americans were in shore of what is

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<v Speaker 2>going on with the collapse of the World Trail Center,

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<v Speaker 2>the publisher of the Random House Dictionaries were busy registered

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<v Speaker 2>in new SBN for the new dictionary, so that they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't publish it, of course in two thousand and one.

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<v Speaker 2>They published it probably next year, but the ISBN for

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<v Speaker 2>that they registered in September eleventh, two thousand and one.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you're telling me is the Library of Congress

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<v Speaker 1>registration number, which is that ISBN. They use that to

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<v Speaker 1>put it in our Library of Congress, which is supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to hold all of the books that are printed in

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<v Speaker 1>English in America, all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, no, no, a bit not that in America.

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<v Speaker 2>They have two two numbers. One is they call a

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<v Speaker 2>Congress Library catalog number. Right, there's ones, I guess, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess maybe it is five or six digits or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>eight digits, but it's not so long. But the ISBN

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<v Speaker 2>is I think it's eleven units long. It's another number

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<v Speaker 2>that is used for internationally.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's the international one. But they're registered with the

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<v Speaker 1>Library of Congress with two numbers. Yeah right, right, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>For the random house. Did you stopped in the September eleventh,

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and one, that I guess they did. You

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<v Speaker 2>just have ISBN number, but probably also Congress Library got

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<v Speaker 2>a number maybe also.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well the Library of Congress is is uh never,

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<v Speaker 1>the dates are never right, by the way, when you

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<v Speaker 1>submit to the patent and copyrights and there's a whole process.

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<v Speaker 1>So what happens is those dates are not exactly correct.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to try and register the date ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>with the date you want always, but they couldn't do

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<v Speaker 1>that in this case. They would have had to a

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<v Speaker 1>registered either on that date or after and the ISBN.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's really remarkable. I'd love to see that. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>you said you have a schedule, and have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>showed that in a video? By the way, have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever shown this in one of your videos on YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>or telegram.

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<v Speaker 2>Or something a video about diction of this, just to

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<v Speaker 2>show it.

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<v Speaker 1>As an example somewhere, like here's a screenshot of this,

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<v Speaker 1>and you show it to me.

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<v Speaker 2>But they couldn't do it with you if you want, Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, no pressure or anything. I want to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you some more about this. Get through a few more

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<v Speaker 1>things here, because we've taken a little while already and

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<v Speaker 1>I've only gotten through part of the story. So look,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing, right, I'm not saying that I absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>believe everything, because I want to see for myself what

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<v Speaker 1>you see, and that's how I go about these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you what is the best piece of

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<v Speaker 1>evidence Because a lot of people listening to this could say, look,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's crazy. He's telling us some crazy Russian story.

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<v Speaker 1>And they make things up about America. You know, even

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<v Speaker 1>amongst themselves in the military, sometimes they give them weird

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<v Speaker 1>ideas because they want them to do certain things. This

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<v Speaker 1>and that. Americans have crazy ideas, especially about they hear

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<v Speaker 1>that Russian accent, and some of them, if they're old enough,

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<v Speaker 1>they go back to the Soviet mistrust, the whole craziness,

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<v Speaker 1>all of that. Let's put all that garbage aside, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and let me ask you, Dmitri, like, what would be

423
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<v Speaker 1>your best piece of proof that you could show somebody

424
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<v Speaker 1>who says, look, I don't know what happened, but maybe

425
00:25:10.799 --> 00:25:13.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe the official story. But how are you

426
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<v Speaker 1>going to convince me that nukes were used here? Because

427
00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:20.519
<v Speaker 1>when you have problems afterwards from the nuclear weapons, I mean,

428
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<v Speaker 1>what is your best proof to show somebody, Look, this

429
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<v Speaker 1>is why it's nuclear weapons. It's not you know, some

430
00:25:28.319 --> 00:25:31.079
<v Speaker 1>chemical they sprayed on and it's a chemical reaction that

431
00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:34.160
<v Speaker 1>makes things burn and all kinds of ideas people have

432
00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:37.200
<v Speaker 1>come out with, right, lasers, all this stuff. What is

433
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<v Speaker 1>your best proof that this is nuclear material? I mean,

434
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<v Speaker 1>I could tell you about the dust that came all

435
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<v Speaker 1>the way across into New Jersey. I witnessed that myself

436
00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:50.359
<v Speaker 1>in Bayonne, in Jersey City. It came across the Hudson

437
00:25:50.440 --> 00:25:54.519
<v Speaker 1>River and into New Jersey and covered things like almost

438
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<v Speaker 1>as if it was snowing. There was so much dust

439
00:25:57.279 --> 00:26:00.799
<v Speaker 1>from those buildings that exploded everywhere that when you know,

440
00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:04.240
<v Speaker 1>in all directions, But how is it? And I can

441
00:26:04.279 --> 00:26:06.279
<v Speaker 1>tell you that I was able to touch that, see

442
00:26:06.279 --> 00:26:09.519
<v Speaker 1>that live it. How could you tell us that the

443
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<v Speaker 1>best piece of proof to say, look, this is the

444
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<v Speaker 1>best piece of prove. I can show you that you

445
00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:17.039
<v Speaker 1>can see yourself that this is nuclear. What would be

446
00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:17.559
<v Speaker 1>the best thing.

447
00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:23.799
<v Speaker 2>That's many, many things that will point to that. Okay,

448
00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:26.480
<v Speaker 2>I give you a few examples, sure. First of all,

449
00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:31.839
<v Speaker 2>First of all, twelve minutes before the second of the

450
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<v Speaker 2>two towers, I think the first one was the salt

451
00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:39.400
<v Speaker 2>tower that was collapsing, not the one without antenna, that

452
00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:43.559
<v Speaker 2>was the South tower. So twelve minutes after the south

453
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<v Speaker 2>South tower was down, the North tower, the one with

454
00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:52.799
<v Speaker 2>antenna was still standing. But the police was already called

455
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<v Speaker 2>ground zero. Okay, so ground zero. I can even send

456
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<v Speaker 2>you some some cuts from the from the TV footage

457
00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:11.480
<v Speaker 2>that TV correspondents already called that ground zero, and they

458
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<v Speaker 2>obviously learned that from my American officials called the place

459
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<v Speaker 2>ground zero.

460
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<v Speaker 1>Right, there was a lot of weird stuff that day.

461
00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I watched and listened to the stuff in New York,

462
00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:23.119
<v Speaker 1>so believe me, I had those broadcasts from the helicopters

463
00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Channel seven, you know, WABC, WNBC, all the main networks

464
00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:31.240
<v Speaker 1>that were right there, even the one that lost broadcast.

465
00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:33.759
<v Speaker 1>I was watching that stuff. So yeah, I know about

466
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<v Speaker 1>all that.

467
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<v Speaker 2>So do you remember how quickly they started to use

468
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<v Speaker 2>the term ground zero?

469
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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it was very quick. I couldn't tell you exactly

470
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<v Speaker 1>twelve minutes. You may be correct, because it was almost immediately,

471
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<v Speaker 1>almost immediately.

472
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, almost immediately.

473
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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

474
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<v Speaker 2>But what I say twelve means that means that the

475
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<v Speaker 2>TV channels started to use it publicly. Maybe the American

476
00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:58.720
<v Speaker 2>officials started even after five means I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they had to pass to them earlier in order

478
00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:03.400
<v Speaker 1>for those anchors to have a note for something on

479
00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:06.519
<v Speaker 1>a screen in front of them already. Yes, absolutely, yes.

480
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:10.440
<v Speaker 2>So if some places called because the ground zero in

481
00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:12.960
<v Speaker 2>the dictionaries of the two thousand and one had no

482
00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:16.200
<v Speaker 2>other meaning than a place of a nuclear explorer. So

483
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:19.799
<v Speaker 2>if something is officially called the place of a nuclear explosion,

484
00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:22.640
<v Speaker 2>then it should be a place of a nuclear explosion.

485
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:26.319
<v Speaker 2>Is very obvious. Okay, this is the first point. The

486
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:30.200
<v Speaker 2>second point, I mean, this is the hardest. Actually. The

487
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:36.000
<v Speaker 2>second point is when lady silverstain Silverstein, I don't know

488
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:40.200
<v Speaker 2>how you pronounced his surname, the one who was the

489
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:47.279
<v Speaker 2>owner of the Larry owner of the Yeah, Larry Silverstein, Silverstein, Yeah,

490
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:50.319
<v Speaker 2>when he was the new owner of the World Trade Center,

491
00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:55.119
<v Speaker 2>when he was unhappy with some actions of the American government.

492
00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:58.279
<v Speaker 2>I think they he was not happy that they didn't

493
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:02.759
<v Speaker 2>pay him enough insurance or something. That he published on

494
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:10.279
<v Speaker 2>his website photographs of the cavities under the Twin Towers.

495
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and you can see that these cavities are

496
00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:18.920
<v Speaker 2>very deep, and the walls of these cavities were obviously

497
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:27.039
<v Speaker 2>showing signs of the molten rock. I think you disappeared.

498
00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:29.599
<v Speaker 1>No, No, I'm still here. I just closed my camera

499
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:34.319
<v Speaker 1>for a moment. Sorry, but we're still recording.

500
00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:41.519
<v Speaker 2>It's okay, okay, yeah, okay. So in those photographs published

501
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.920
<v Speaker 2>by Larry Silverstein on his website, you can see the

502
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:54.319
<v Speaker 2>huge guyant cavities under the twin towers. They were probably

503
00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:58.799
<v Speaker 2>like from from one hundred to one hundred and twenty

504
00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:05.559
<v Speaker 2>meters deep and with the horizontal diameters probably sixty or

505
00:30:05.559 --> 00:30:09.000
<v Speaker 2>fifty meters. I mean, it's really huge cavities. And you

506
00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:13.640
<v Speaker 2>can see the walls showing the science of the molten rock.

507
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:19.720
<v Speaker 2>They were partly already covered with the concrete because they

508
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:21.839
<v Speaker 2>have to fix them, but you can still see how

509
00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:27.200
<v Speaker 2>huge they were. And only the underground nuclear explosion of

510
00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:31.240
<v Speaker 2>like one hundred and fifty kiloton yield would be able

511
00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:36.079
<v Speaker 2>to dig that such kind of underground cavity in the rock.

512
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<v Speaker 1>So what you're saying is that there is such a

513
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:43.359
<v Speaker 1>huge cavity carved out of the out of the ground

514
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:46.559
<v Speaker 1>there that this massive cavity has to have been caused

515
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:50.880
<v Speaker 1>by something that detonated inside there, and you believe that

516
00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the only way it could have been done is with

517
00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:56.160
<v Speaker 1>a nuclear device. The silver Stein thing you're talking about

518
00:30:56.359 --> 00:30:59.279
<v Speaker 1>is that he wanted to be paid twice for two

519
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:03.880
<v Speaker 1>different events events when it came to the insurance rights

520
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:08.440
<v Speaker 1>just my memory, and because they weren't paying both, then

521
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:11.440
<v Speaker 1>he started publishing things because he wanted to get paid twice,

522
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:13.839
<v Speaker 1>and the insurance company was trying to say, look, that

523
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:18.319
<v Speaker 1>was one terrorist attack, not too you know, and he's saying, well,

524
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:21.240
<v Speaker 1>look it's two towers, it's two events. And that was

525
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:24.720
<v Speaker 1>the argument supposedly in public. I've come to understand there

526
00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:27.039
<v Speaker 1>was probably much more to it, but that was what

527
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:31.079
<v Speaker 1>was shown in public. Demetri, right, Yes, that's what you're

528
00:31:31.079 --> 00:31:33.599
<v Speaker 1>referring to. Okay, so this giant is.

529
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Actually lighty sin. He published two dangerous things, very dangerous.

530
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:41.880
<v Speaker 2>One thing that he published photographs of the cavities in

531
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:44.680
<v Speaker 2>which he should not publish because that is the hardest

532
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:48.160
<v Speaker 2>proof of the nuclear explosions under the twin towers. And

533
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:52.480
<v Speaker 2>the second thing what he did in one of his interviews.

534
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:55.359
<v Speaker 2>I think it was called Dimitical Rebils of two thousand

535
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:59.039
<v Speaker 2>and two or something like that. I think you again disappeared.

536
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:01.759
<v Speaker 1>Yes, if you see me, go, it's no problem. I'm

537
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:04.519
<v Speaker 1>just taking off camera per second to take care of something.

538
00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:07.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to show anybody. I'm just they can

539
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:09.240
<v Speaker 1>hear you, they can see you, they don't see me

540
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:10.279
<v Speaker 1>for a minute. That's all.

541
00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:13.599
<v Speaker 2>That's because I'm not sure what Maybe I thought, maybe

542
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:15.319
<v Speaker 2>the connection was lost or something.

543
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:18.200
<v Speaker 1>No, no, we're still connected. Don't worry. I'm just not

544
00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:20.359
<v Speaker 1>showing you so I can do something off camera.

545
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:25.599
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, yeah, yeah, understand, okay, So and he published he

546
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:34.079
<v Speaker 2>during that interview with some journalists, she was asked what

547
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:38.359
<v Speaker 2>happened with the Building seven and he answered, and he

548
00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:45.680
<v Speaker 2>answered that he personally I give a permission to the

549
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:49.960
<v Speaker 2>officials to demolished Building seven, and they demolished it with

550
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:50.839
<v Speaker 2>his permission.

551
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:57.039
<v Speaker 1>This is the famous pullet, right, This is I told

552
00:32:57.079 --> 00:33:01.640
<v Speaker 1>them there was enough loss of life, just pull it, okay, yes, okay.

553
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:08.599
<v Speaker 2>And this one is another hard proof that. Yeah, of

554
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:11.599
<v Speaker 2>course that doesn't prove that it was particularly nuclear, but

555
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:14.640
<v Speaker 2>it was at least a proof that the Building seven

556
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:17.920
<v Speaker 2>has a built in demolition.

557
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Feature, right, because anybody they can talk.

558
00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:24.519
<v Speaker 2>Quickly demolis, you know, to prepare a control demolition that

559
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:25.319
<v Speaker 2>takes weeks.

560
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>Actually, yes, many times. I was just going to show.

561
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:30.559
<v Speaker 2>Demolis building in a second lay in the mean by

562
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:34.279
<v Speaker 2>getting just someone's permission, right, Yeah, because.

563
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:37.839
<v Speaker 1>They've shown documentaries all about destroying stuff, say in Las Vegas,

564
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:40.759
<v Speaker 1>where they took down the casinos and they would go

565
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:42.680
<v Speaker 1>in there for a couple of weeks and they would

566
00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:47.240
<v Speaker 1>saw beams and they would set charges and make charge

567
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:49.559
<v Speaker 1>cords and things like this and set them all up

568
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:52.880
<v Speaker 1>and prepare the whole area. And this would be usually

569
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks for one of these hotels.

570
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:57.119
<v Speaker 2>Is at least at least this couple of weeks is

571
00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:00.519
<v Speaker 2>just to install the charges, right, But a few weeks

572
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:03.480
<v Speaker 2>it will it will take to study how to install them.

573
00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:04.720
<v Speaker 2>And we have to install them.

574
00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Yes, they survey everything and they figure out, look, here's

575
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:09.119
<v Speaker 1>where the weight it's going to go. And what we

576
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:11.400
<v Speaker 1>want to do is make sure these beams come out first.

577
00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:16.480
<v Speaker 2>So imagine that Lighty Silverstein gives his permission to demolish

578
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:20.480
<v Speaker 2>the building seven and just like maybe thirty or forty

579
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:24.559
<v Speaker 2>or maybe fifty minutes, it is demolished. So we understand

580
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:28.400
<v Speaker 2>that it's impossible unless the building has a built in

581
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:29.960
<v Speaker 2>demolition feature.

582
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:33.000
<v Speaker 1>The only logic is that the ability to demolish the

583
00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:35.840
<v Speaker 1>building was already there. That's the only logical thing.

584
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, is is okay? So that is the hard

585
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:43.800
<v Speaker 2>proof that there's something is really built in. Yes, And

586
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.400
<v Speaker 2>I can show you a few clips from the footage

587
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:54.079
<v Speaker 2>of the nine to eleven where the officials, especially fire

588
00:34:54.159 --> 00:35:01.559
<v Speaker 2>department officials, refer to the fact that the building has

589
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:05.719
<v Speaker 2>the demolition feature. They not say that particular nuclear, but

590
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:11.480
<v Speaker 2>they say that some demolition feature was built into the

591
00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:14.159
<v Speaker 2>Twin Towers. I can send you this clip if you want.

592
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:17.159
<v Speaker 1>No, I wouldn't mind seeing all these things. But again,

593
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:20.199
<v Speaker 1>I I'm sorry to press you, but I say, what

594
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:25.239
<v Speaker 1>about specifically the nuclear part of this? Outside? Okay, what

595
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:27.159
<v Speaker 1>you were told? I mean, I'm just wondering what you

596
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:29.559
<v Speaker 1>could show to someone else to say, look objectively.

597
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I will explain, yes, please. So, first of all,

598
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:39.960
<v Speaker 2>the hardest proof I believe that is the police. No, actually,

599
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:43.840
<v Speaker 2>the hardest proof you know that is my testimony. Okay,

600
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:47.079
<v Speaker 2>because I say, okay, I'm a former military officer who

601
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:50.880
<v Speaker 2>served in the department that was responsible for the detection

602
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:55.920
<v Speaker 2>of a nuclear explorer, and I claim that the twelve

603
00:35:56.039 --> 00:35:59.119
<v Speaker 2>years prior to nine to eleven, it came to my

604
00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:03.519
<v Speaker 2>knowledge that under the Twin Towers for nuclear demolition and

605
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:08.679
<v Speaker 2>devices emergency nuclear demolition devices. That is my testimony. You

606
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:11.800
<v Speaker 2>know that if you come to the court and you testify,

607
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:14.559
<v Speaker 2>the court has to believe you because that is the

608
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:17.719
<v Speaker 2>primary evidence. So the primary evidence is just my words.

609
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:21.519
<v Speaker 1>Well, they test whether you should have this knowledge first, right,

610
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:24.559
<v Speaker 1>they do what they call it, in which case I

611
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:26.440
<v Speaker 1>would say to you, Okay, look, you were meant to

612
00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:30.760
<v Speaker 1>monitor explosions, and you were not in that department at

613
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:33.880
<v Speaker 1>the time of the explosion. So you're telling me that

614
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:36.800
<v Speaker 1>not only do you monitor explosions, but you must also

615
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:38.039
<v Speaker 1>monitor the potential.

616
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:41.440
<v Speaker 2>You can imagine the point of logic if you can

617
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:45.880
<v Speaker 2>call it logic and not a mockery or logic that Okay,

618
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Let's say that the two towers, the twin towers, and

619
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:55.280
<v Speaker 2>that is the built in nuclear demolition feature, but the people,

620
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:59.440
<v Speaker 2>for some stupid reason, decided not to use the nuclear devices,

621
00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:04.480
<v Speaker 2>but decided to use so called none termite or beams

622
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:11.360
<v Speaker 2>from the space. Okay, just ordinary DNA might or the TNT.

623
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:15.320
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't make sense if the building have a nuclear

624
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:17.239
<v Speaker 2>demolition feature they have to use it.

625
00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:21.679
<v Speaker 1>Well, is there any Is there any independent proofs you

626
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:24.599
<v Speaker 1>have outside of your testimony, your knowledge which you were

627
00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:27.639
<v Speaker 1>given privileged knowledge. Obviously the whole world didn't know this,

628
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:32.920
<v Speaker 1>so you had privileged knowledge because of your position. Do

629
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:35.719
<v Speaker 1>you have any other independent proofs that you could show

630
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:37.679
<v Speaker 1>or people could.

631
00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:42.639
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I it was not published in English, but in

632
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:47.519
<v Speaker 2>Russian there is the video of one guy who is

633
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:50.400
<v Speaker 2>not connected to me in any way of what he

634
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:52.559
<v Speaker 2>knows me and I know him, but he's not directly

635
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:56.679
<v Speaker 2>connected to me. And he published his own video, again

636
00:37:57.039 --> 00:37:59.800
<v Speaker 2>not connected to me, with his own knowledge about the

637
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:06.599
<v Speaker 2>new clear demolition devices of the twin towers. And he

638
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:11.199
<v Speaker 2>technical details details than I did because I made the

639
00:38:11.239 --> 00:38:14.239
<v Speaker 2>technical research, so I know many technical details, but he didn't.

640
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:17.920
<v Speaker 2>He just only have the basic knowledge of that. And

641
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:23.360
<v Speaker 2>this video is available in Russian YouTube. And this guy

642
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:25.760
<v Speaker 2>was not a small guy. He was connected to the

643
00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:29.719
<v Speaker 2>to the government of President Hilsen before. I mean, he

644
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.039
<v Speaker 2>was the guy from the top of the of the

645
00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:37.119
<v Speaker 2>Russian establishment. I would say, okay, so you know he knew,

646
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:38.360
<v Speaker 2>he knew for sure.

647
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:40.800
<v Speaker 1>So a guy much higher up. So a guy much

648
00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:44.159
<v Speaker 1>higher up was also informed about this in the Russian government.

649
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:46.760
<v Speaker 1>And he has since come forward and said that these

650
00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:50.159
<v Speaker 1>things existed and maybe he only needed to know it

651
00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:53.119
<v Speaker 1>for strategic purposes or whatever. But your job was more

652
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:57.239
<v Speaker 1>about technical analysis, so you had more technical details to offer.

653
00:38:57.360 --> 00:38:59.639
<v Speaker 1>That's what you're saying. I just want to be clear.

654
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:04.880
<v Speaker 2>And also you have to understand that, of course, uh

655
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:09.440
<v Speaker 2>part two of us, A lot of people knew about

656
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:11.239
<v Speaker 2>this in Russia.

657
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

658
00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:16.400
<v Speaker 2>But the problem is that many people were pressed by

659
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:21.119
<v Speaker 2>the Russian government to sign a non disclosure contract because

660
00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:24.840
<v Speaker 2>they don't want to antagonize Americans. They just want to

661
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:28.920
<v Speaker 2>to hide that story. Okay. So many people know that,

662
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:32.320
<v Speaker 2>but they will never talk because of the non disclosure contract.

663
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:36.159
<v Speaker 1>Right, right, Did you have a non disclosure agreement?

664
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:40.599
<v Speaker 2>Me? No, because when I was yeah, of course I

665
00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:42.800
<v Speaker 2>have the non disclosure contract when I serve in the

666
00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Soviet military. But the problem is that this non disclosure

667
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:51.960
<v Speaker 2>contract is related to my to my duties.

668
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:54.039
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

669
00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:57.920
<v Speaker 2>But the things that I knew about the nuclear demolition

670
00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:02.280
<v Speaker 2>of the devices of in the twin towers, it was

671
00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:05.480
<v Speaker 2>not connected to my duties in any manner. It's just

672
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:06.599
<v Speaker 2>digital knowledge.

673
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:11.199
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So this is not connected to something that you

674
00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:15.079
<v Speaker 1>had assigned an agreement to not disclose. This is something okay,

675
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:18.719
<v Speaker 1>I understand now. So you gain this knowledge, but it's

676
00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:22.039
<v Speaker 1>not connected directly to okay.

677
00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:24.440
<v Speaker 2>And directly directly connected to my.

678
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:28.000
<v Speaker 1>So we have two independent witnesses, is what you're saying,

679
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:31.519
<v Speaker 1>that had this knowledge in advance of what occurred in

680
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:36.480
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and one. And there must be some residual

681
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:39.559
<v Speaker 1>signs though afterwards, right, there must be something we could

682
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:41.599
<v Speaker 1>measure or find out afterwards.

683
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Of course you can measure. But if you remember, after

684
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:49.599
<v Speaker 2>the demolition of the twin towers, lower Manfettan, Manhattan was

685
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:57.000
<v Speaker 2>immediately sealed very tightly, and all people evacuated and even

686
00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:01.400
<v Speaker 2>emergency vehicles were not allowed to ground zero until the

687
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:03.280
<v Speaker 2>next morning. You remember that.

688
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:09.039
<v Speaker 1>Well, there was quite a bit of confusion. They closed

689
00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:13.159
<v Speaker 1>the island off completely, so people trying to get over there.

690
00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:15.800
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't. I was there when they closed it, Okay,

691
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:18.519
<v Speaker 1>so I was trying to get over there because they

692
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:21.639
<v Speaker 1>literally were calling for people please help come dig. As

693
00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:24.719
<v Speaker 1>far as I knew, people were immediately trying to help dig,

694
00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:28.800
<v Speaker 1>to get people out of these areas, you know, and

695
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:30.480
<v Speaker 1>trying to pick up some of the stuff. And they

696
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:35.800
<v Speaker 1>brought in machinery that was going on immediately, and outside

697
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:39.199
<v Speaker 1>of any other vehicles or anything else coming in, only

698
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:43.119
<v Speaker 1>some things that could move big pieces of stuff were

699
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:46.440
<v Speaker 1>allowed to go in there to try and help dig.

700
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:49.159
<v Speaker 1>Other than that, they stopped all the rest of the

701
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:52.639
<v Speaker 1>traffic because there was already a bunch of traffic and

702
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:54.639
<v Speaker 1>there was a bunch of cars that got stuck there

703
00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:57.920
<v Speaker 1>that were damaged and such, so they couldn't move a

704
00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:00.639
<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of things that clogged up everything, you know,

705
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:03.880
<v Speaker 1>and the debris also, which was in a bunch of

706
00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:07.119
<v Speaker 1>different places. You got to understand, New York is a

707
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:09.840
<v Speaker 1>grid sort of. You know, the roads the way they are,

708
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:13.239
<v Speaker 1>they are connected to vertical and horizontal, and you have

709
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:16.239
<v Speaker 1>a grid. So what happened is because that grid was

710
00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:20.000
<v Speaker 1>stopped up, they immediately stop any traffic coming in all

711
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:24.320
<v Speaker 1>of it pretty much, unless it's you know, authorized specially

712
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:26.599
<v Speaker 1>to come in and this and that, and it goes

713
00:42:26.639 --> 00:42:29.599
<v Speaker 1>through these different checkpoints to even get in there. So

714
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:33.360
<v Speaker 1>all traffic stopped in that part of what I call

715
00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:37.679
<v Speaker 1>the island, Manhattan Island. This is what I got to

716
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:40.400
<v Speaker 1>be told through people who were over there. I couldn't

717
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:46.159
<v Speaker 1>get there myself, so it's kind of a little dicey there.

718
00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:49.519
<v Speaker 1>They didn't allow anything coming in unless it was a vehicle.

719
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:52.159
<v Speaker 1>They said they needed it, you know. And like I said,

720
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:54.960
<v Speaker 1>some of these earth movers or cranes or whatever, they

721
00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:57.079
<v Speaker 1>allowed some of them in, but even a lot of

722
00:42:57.119 --> 00:42:59.800
<v Speaker 1>them were not allowed in trucks. A lot of guys

723
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:01.840
<v Speaker 1>you want to go in there, and dig. You had

724
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:04.760
<v Speaker 1>to stop way outside of it and walk in to

725
00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:09.079
<v Speaker 1>get there. A lot of them, you know, that occurred.

726
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:11.800
<v Speaker 1>And but you see on TV they show you the firemen,

727
00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:15.239
<v Speaker 1>they show you all these guys, but those people are

728
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:19.079
<v Speaker 1>many blocks away that they're showing you on TV. Mostly

729
00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:22.000
<v Speaker 1>if you know what you know, if you understand New

730
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:23.639
<v Speaker 1>York because I lived there too.

731
00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:28.599
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but yeah, the firstly, what you correctly say that

732
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:31.079
<v Speaker 2>the people that you might see in the TV, they

733
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:35.159
<v Speaker 2>were many blocks away, yes, okay. And you remember that

734
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:38.599
<v Speaker 2>immediately after the towers collapsed, they pushed all the people

735
00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:43.079
<v Speaker 2>from immediate vicinity of the twin Towers and the Building

736
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:47.960
<v Speaker 2>seven also, and they sealed over Manhattan for that at

737
00:43:48.039 --> 00:43:53.760
<v Speaker 2>least next morning, even the emergency medical services will not

738
00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:59.360
<v Speaker 2>allowed you know why because after the nuclear explosion, the

739
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:05.599
<v Speaker 2>highest levels levels of of gumma radiation I in the

740
00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:10.920
<v Speaker 2>first first few hours, they they drop quite quickly. So

741
00:44:11.039 --> 00:44:18.719
<v Speaker 2>let's say that, uh, I can't remember exactly, but but

742
00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:21.840
<v Speaker 2>by the next morning compared to the to the evening

743
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:26.800
<v Speaker 2>of September eleventh, the radiation levels by gumma radiation can

744
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:32.480
<v Speaker 2>subside considerably. Means means let's say that if you were.

745
00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:35.920
<v Speaker 2>If you were in the immediate vicinity of the twin

746
00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:39.840
<v Speaker 2>hours after the demolition, Let's say that in the next

747
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:42.920
<v Speaker 2>three hours and you spend the whole three hours there,

748
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:48.239
<v Speaker 2>you you will probably get a double mortal dose of radiation.

749
00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:49.760
<v Speaker 2>You will probably not survive.

750
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

751
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:54.400
<v Speaker 2>But if you come there next morning under the radiation

752
00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:57.360
<v Speaker 2>control and they allow you to work there only for

753
00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:02.800
<v Speaker 2>half an hour af out inhaling the radioactive weapon, just

754
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:10.960
<v Speaker 2>protect yourself with the respirator or the gas mask, and

755
00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:14.400
<v Speaker 2>they control you being there just for no longer than

756
00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:17.639
<v Speaker 2>thirty minutes, you still can be okay. I mean, you

757
00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:21.239
<v Speaker 2>will not get the radiation doors that will make you sick.

758
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

759
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:26.039
<v Speaker 2>So and the next day you might work there, let's

760
00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:29.119
<v Speaker 2>say for an hour instead of half an hour. And

761
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:32.119
<v Speaker 2>the next day you can probably even work there just

762
00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:36.039
<v Speaker 2>like for maybe two or three hours under the tight

763
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:39.000
<v Speaker 2>radiation control. Of course, but you can still do but

764
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:42.480
<v Speaker 2>not in the first few hours and the first few hours,

765
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:45.440
<v Speaker 2>the radiation levels were just too high to work there

766
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:47.760
<v Speaker 2>even for a few minutes. That's why they kick all

767
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:48.960
<v Speaker 2>the people out from there.

768
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, what's amazing about that is that they obviously didn't

769
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:55.880
<v Speaker 1>do good job with it because they didn't die, you know,

770
00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:58.880
<v Speaker 1>right away. They weren't immediately sick. But over a couple

771
00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:01.119
<v Speaker 1>of you know, over a few months, a few years,

772
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:04.840
<v Speaker 1>these people got all kinds of crazy cancers and lung problems,

773
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:08.280
<v Speaker 1>and they were all sick. You know. Anybody who worked

774
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:11.440
<v Speaker 1>there for almost any amount of time became ill, and

775
00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:13.519
<v Speaker 1>most of them died early.

776
00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Most yes, but this one is another story. I can

777
00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:20.239
<v Speaker 2>explain to you why it happens. Okay, because because the

778
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:25.039
<v Speaker 2>radiation has a different aspects. Okay, there is a guma radiation.

779
00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Guma radiation is a penetrative means you cannot protect yourself

780
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:31.880
<v Speaker 2>from gum radiation by wearing the respirator or the gas

781
00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:36.320
<v Speaker 2>mask because it will penetrate them anyway. So and the

782
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:42.360
<v Speaker 2>guma radiation subside quickly. I mean the dangerous levels that

783
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:44.760
<v Speaker 2>were for the in the first few hours will be

784
00:46:44.840 --> 00:46:50.000
<v Speaker 2>reduced by maybe ten times. So next day, yeah, so

785
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:53.480
<v Speaker 2>it led you this. The gum radiation will subside to

786
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:54.639
<v Speaker 2>a reasonable levels.

787
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:58.199
<v Speaker 1>So lead shields don't do they protect you from gamma radiation?

788
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:00.119
<v Speaker 1>Is that the kind that you can be protected? The

789
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:05.559
<v Speaker 1>lead shield? Each one gamma radiation lead shield. Here's a

790
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:07.159
<v Speaker 1>lead shield. Does that protect you?

791
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:10.639
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, that will protect you, but it's heavy. You

792
00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:12.920
<v Speaker 2>can't make the close from this.

793
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, absolutely. But I'm just saying, like, you know,

794
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:16.840
<v Speaker 1>when you go to get an X ray and they

795
00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:19.360
<v Speaker 1>put like the lead ap yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's kind.

796
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Of that's what will protect you. But you can you can't.

797
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Move if you can, you can't breathe through lead either. There,

798
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:27.320
<v Speaker 1>you can't breathe through lead either. You know, you have

799
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:31.159
<v Speaker 1>to breathe, So problem there. Okay, now I'm just pointing it.

800
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Out when it comes when it comes to the gamma radiation,

801
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:38.440
<v Speaker 2>the radiation control works in this way. They will give

802
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:42.239
<v Speaker 2>you an individual dosimeter which has no scale, just like

803
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:47.239
<v Speaker 2>a cart like and then they will force you to

804
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:51.280
<v Speaker 2>submit discard every end of swift every evening to the

805
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:56.079
<v Speaker 2>central post where they can accummulate your summary. I mean

806
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:01.239
<v Speaker 2>some of your doors that you collect today, yesterday, the

807
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:05.320
<v Speaker 2>day before yesterday by the gumma radiation. So when they

808
00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:10.039
<v Speaker 2>see that your doors is approaching the dangerous level, so

809
00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:13.760
<v Speaker 2>that if you get more, you will get sick immediately

810
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:17.199
<v Speaker 2>because the people from guma radiation people will get sick

811
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:18.840
<v Speaker 2>in the next two or three days, not in a

812
00:48:18.880 --> 00:48:25.039
<v Speaker 2>few months, it will be very quick. Then if the

813
00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:29.599
<v Speaker 2>radiation control sees that some workers acquiring two close to

814
00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:32.960
<v Speaker 2>the dangerous doors of the gamma radiation, they will remove

815
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:37.440
<v Speaker 2>him from the site. So they will find some some

816
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:40.800
<v Speaker 2>reasons say okay, look you cannot work here anymore. You

817
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:43.800
<v Speaker 2>have to work somewhere else. If they don't tell him

818
00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:46.079
<v Speaker 2>the truth about the radiation, I mean, if it is

819
00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:54.239
<v Speaker 2>a let's say, quiet radiation control, not official, not official republic.

820
00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:58.320
<v Speaker 2>So that in ground zero they established the hidden radiation control.

821
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:01.360
<v Speaker 2>It was very tough, but it was not known for

822
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:05.079
<v Speaker 2>the workers that is actual radiation control. So the devices

823
00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:08.519
<v Speaker 2>that they give to every worker on ground zero, they

824
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:11.320
<v Speaker 2>do not say that this is the dosimeter. They just

825
00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:14.159
<v Speaker 2>say that is the special device to control the quality

826
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:14.679
<v Speaker 2>of air.

827
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Right, Because I was gonna say, I knew people that

828
00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:19.960
<v Speaker 1>went down there to dig and help find people and

829
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:23.639
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, and I know that they had no

830
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:26.840
<v Speaker 1>nobody ever mentioned to me, Any of these guys ever

831
00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:30.559
<v Speaker 1>mentioned to me anything about radiation. Even if we didn't

832
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:33.440
<v Speaker 1>think there was nuclear or anything, maybe radiation was present,

833
00:49:33.599 --> 00:49:36.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, none of that was ever mentioned. The only

834
00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:39.599
<v Speaker 1>thing they talked about was the air quality, right, And

835
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the amount of the dust that was in the air.

836
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:44.760
<v Speaker 1>That was the big concern because they were trying to

837
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:47.119
<v Speaker 1>keep from breathing that, and they were pouring water on

838
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:49.800
<v Speaker 1>them to you know, wash it off, because they were

839
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:53.320
<v Speaker 1>completely covered in the dust. And these are people I knew,

840
00:49:53.519 --> 00:49:54.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, who had done this.

841
00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:59.960
<v Speaker 2>So that was the way how they attempted to hide

842
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:06.280
<v Speaker 2>the radiation dangers from the ground zero workers. I tell

843
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:09.880
<v Speaker 2>you one more thing, maybe in case it mess your attention.

844
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:12.920
<v Speaker 2>You know that the people who work at ground zero,

845
00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:16.079
<v Speaker 2>they were not allowed to use the words ground zero.

846
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:20.320
<v Speaker 2>They have to call it officially the pile. I mean,

847
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:24.599
<v Speaker 2>there was a prohibition. The people who work on ground zero.

848
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:28.239
<v Speaker 2>They were just simply not allowed to use the word

849
00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:31.800
<v Speaker 2>ground zero because the American government scared that maybe people

850
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:35.159
<v Speaker 2>can remember what the ground zero really means, so they

851
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:38.400
<v Speaker 2>just in order to prevent the remembering it, they just

852
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:43.599
<v Speaker 2>prohibited completely using that words. Every worker at ground zero

853
00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:46.000
<v Speaker 2>had to call the place the pile.

854
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:50.639
<v Speaker 1>See. I don't remember that necessary. I do remember that

855
00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:53.679
<v Speaker 1>it was mentioned in the news broadcast pretty much right away,

856
00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and then a week or two later I would say

857
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:02.480
<v Speaker 1>everywhere you went it was ground zero, That's what it was.

858
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:04.840
<v Speaker 1>If you listen on the radio, if they gave a report,

859
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:05.400
<v Speaker 1>if they.

860
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Said that was very strict every way it was a

861
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:11.719
<v Speaker 2>ground zero. But around zero, the ground zero, they're not

862
00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:12.920
<v Speaker 2>allowed to use that word.

863
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, but everywhere else. I mean, because you

864
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:17.679
<v Speaker 1>look at the footage, you see people talking cleaning up.

865
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:21.599
<v Speaker 1>They they released other documentaries later. There's that documentary by

866
00:51:21.639 --> 00:51:25.519
<v Speaker 1>the two German guys who were, you know, following the

867
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:28.480
<v Speaker 1>fireman around all of that stuff. You don't hear it,

868
00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:33.840
<v Speaker 1>but about two weeks later, instantly, every report, every discussion,

869
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:38.320
<v Speaker 1>everything ground zero. That's just what it was, you know,

870
00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:41.400
<v Speaker 1>and it was very I found that out at the time.

871
00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:44.800
<v Speaker 1>So any other things that you would point people to

872
00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:45.840
<v Speaker 1>to consider.

873
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:48.719
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let me finish about the white people get

874
00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:51.079
<v Speaker 2>sick with the concept off the few months, a few years.

875
00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, yeah, sorry, I thought you were done.

876
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:57.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got part a part of guma radiation, there

877
00:51:57.199 --> 00:52:02.079
<v Speaker 2>is also alpha radiation, right, So the gum radiation levels

878
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:03.960
<v Speaker 2>subside quite quickly.

879
00:52:04.519 --> 00:52:04.840
<v Speaker 1>M hm.

880
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:10.239
<v Speaker 2>So the really dangerous levels of gum radiation were for

881
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:14.599
<v Speaker 2>the first few hours, right, relatively dangerous for the next

882
00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:19.280
<v Speaker 2>three or four days. After that they subsided to reasonable levels.

883
00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:21.559
<v Speaker 2>So over the.

884
00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:24.440
<v Speaker 1>First three or four days the gamma radiations coming down,

885
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:27.159
<v Speaker 1>but it's still rather dangerous. You know, like you said,

886
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:29.440
<v Speaker 1>half hour you could work the first day, second day,

887
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:31.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe you could work an hour, maybe third day a

888
00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:35.000
<v Speaker 1>couple hours, and then by yes, one week, two weeks,

889
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:38.320
<v Speaker 1>it's okay, maybe you can. But that's just the gamma radiation,

890
00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:39.840
<v Speaker 1>so okay, ah.

891
00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but still still that was under the tight radiation

892
00:52:44.599 --> 00:52:48.320
<v Speaker 2>control which they called the control of the air quality.

893
00:52:48.360 --> 00:52:50.119
<v Speaker 2>But the reality it was a radiation.

894
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:52.159
<v Speaker 1>Coming right because they kept talking about the air quality,

895
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:53.000
<v Speaker 1>that was the big thing.

896
00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, yes, okay. So now we talk about the

897
00:52:55.960 --> 00:52:59.559
<v Speaker 2>alpha radiation. Alpha radiation is another thing. Yes, the alpha

898
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:04.440
<v Speaker 2>radiation is something that doesn't subside so quickly as a

899
00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:10.119
<v Speaker 2>gum radiation. It can last. And alpha radiation is not

900
00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:14.039
<v Speaker 2>dangerous when it is outside of the human body because

901
00:53:14.079 --> 00:53:17.119
<v Speaker 2>the human body is covered by the thin layer of

902
00:53:17.159 --> 00:53:22.199
<v Speaker 2>the dead skin. Okay i' and the alpha radiation cannot

903
00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:26.360
<v Speaker 2>penetrate that level of the dead skin. So that means

904
00:53:26.360 --> 00:53:30.199
<v Speaker 2>the humans and animals are protected from alpha radiation by

905
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:31.400
<v Speaker 2>simply by their skin.

906
00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, But isn't that the one that they say is

907
00:53:33.800 --> 00:53:36.639
<v Speaker 1>dangerous though? If you breathe it in. In other words,

908
00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:37.639
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't.

909
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:40.119
<v Speaker 2>Need But the problem is when the people breathe it

910
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:43.760
<v Speaker 2>in or swallow it with the food. Right there is

911
00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:47.360
<v Speaker 2>know that the layer of the dead skin inside our body.

912
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:50.199
<v Speaker 1>Ah okay, Because I was thinking to myself, you know,

913
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:52.599
<v Speaker 1>how do you escape it? If you're in the place

914
00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:55.880
<v Speaker 1>you're breathing it, you know you're going to take everything

915
00:53:55.960 --> 00:53:58.280
<v Speaker 1>is covered. Everything in that whole area was covered with

916
00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:01.559
<v Speaker 1>the dust. So I'm imagining there's got to be radioactivity

917
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:04.079
<v Speaker 1>in the dust. If there's you know, this stuff, it's

918
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:06.320
<v Speaker 1>got to be everywhere. So you get any kind of food,

919
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:09.079
<v Speaker 1>you try to eat, even if the dust is gonna

920
00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:10.360
<v Speaker 1>land on it, You're gonna eat something.

921
00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:13.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, let me correct you. Let me correct you.

922
00:54:13.199 --> 00:54:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

923
00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:17.039
<v Speaker 2>So the problem is that the dust that was the

924
00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:19.920
<v Speaker 2>dust of the Twin Tower structure or the Mariodo Hotel

925
00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:23.320
<v Speaker 2>structure or the Building seven structure, the dust itself was

926
00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:28.119
<v Speaker 2>not radioactive because the nuclear demolition devices were deep underground.

927
00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:31.639
<v Speaker 2>They were like seventy seven meters below the earth surface.

928
00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:37.519
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So the dust itself was not radioactive because.

929
00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:40.440
<v Speaker 2>That was all the dust was not radioactive. What was

930
00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:46.199
<v Speaker 2>the radioactive is the weapon because because the the cavities

931
00:54:46.840 --> 00:54:50.960
<v Speaker 2>left by underground nuclear explosions under the after under the

932
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:54.480
<v Speaker 2>rubbles of the twin towers and the building seven very hot.

933
00:54:54.559 --> 00:54:58.280
<v Speaker 2>You remember that the firefighters had to use constantly water

934
00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:02.360
<v Speaker 2>to for it inside the cavity to cool them dull.

935
00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:07.039
<v Speaker 2>And the American government used to call it the longest

936
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:11.360
<v Speaker 2>lasting underground fires. That lusts for like a month.

937
00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were still being reported as burning and people said, oh,

938
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:19.239
<v Speaker 1>that's molten metal. And also there were you know, the

939
00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:24.880
<v Speaker 1>firefighter's equipment. Some of it was melted and nobody could

940
00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:26.559
<v Speaker 1>account for it. How hot does it have to be?

941
00:55:26.559 --> 00:55:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Because that stuff is designed not to melt, right, And

942
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:32.719
<v Speaker 1>some of like you know, helmets were melted, and some

943
00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:35.400
<v Speaker 1>of these coats, these coats are all meant it's obviously

944
00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:39.800
<v Speaker 1>it's firefighter garretts, meant to not melt, yes, and some

945
00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:41.719
<v Speaker 1>of it was melted. So you're telling me this is

946
00:55:41.719 --> 00:55:42.800
<v Speaker 1>from the radiation.

947
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:45.599
<v Speaker 2>Actually that no, no, no, that is not from the radiation.

948
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:49.519
<v Speaker 2>That is from the heat. Because the left by the

949
00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:52.480
<v Speaker 2>underground nuclear explosions under the rubble.

950
00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:52.800
<v Speaker 1>I see.

951
00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Really they were like a cauldrons, you know, fool with

952
00:55:57.079 --> 00:55:58.559
<v Speaker 2>the hot materials.

953
00:55:59.199 --> 00:56:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay. That's why they're like a cauldron. And and it's

954
00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:06.400
<v Speaker 1>just it's constantly keeping hot material hot like yes, like

955
00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:08.519
<v Speaker 1>in a boundary, right okay.

956
00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:12.119
<v Speaker 2>And if the American government left leave it, lift it

957
00:56:12.199 --> 00:56:15.000
<v Speaker 2>on its own, they will cool down for about a

958
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:16.559
<v Speaker 2>year naturally.

959
00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:20.039
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So we take one layer.

960
00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:23.639
<v Speaker 2>And the American government was concerned to cool them down faster.

961
00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:26.920
<v Speaker 2>They wanted as soon as possible to cool them down,

962
00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:32.400
<v Speaker 2>so they ordered the firefighters to pour the cold water

963
00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:34.000
<v Speaker 2>constantly into the carvages.

964
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:35.039
<v Speaker 1>M hmm.

965
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:39.800
<v Speaker 2>And when this water hit the radioactive hot radioactive materials

966
00:56:39.800 --> 00:56:43.320
<v Speaker 2>inside the carveates left by the nuclear explosions, the water

967
00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:44.760
<v Speaker 2>was constantly.

968
00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Vaporized, right, so it makes steam and then the steam

969
00:56:48.920 --> 00:56:49.480
<v Speaker 1>comes up.

970
00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:52.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yes, And and you remember that it was always

971
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:58.960
<v Speaker 2>a steam coming up, yes, so. And and of course

972
00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:02.920
<v Speaker 2>when when the hits the radioactive materials inside the cavities

973
00:57:03.440 --> 00:57:08.519
<v Speaker 2>and vaporized, it will carry up some radioactive particles together

974
00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:13.119
<v Speaker 2>with the paper. And the people who and the people

975
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:16.239
<v Speaker 2>who work at Ground zero didn't wear the gas masks

976
00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:19.440
<v Speaker 2>or the respirators. They were just like normal. Some some

977
00:57:19.480 --> 00:57:25.880
<v Speaker 2>of them were like like a cheap material like painting,

978
00:57:26.079 --> 00:57:28.679
<v Speaker 2>like I mean like something like this. First cover their

979
00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:32.280
<v Speaker 2>face and some of them just wear nothing. You remember

980
00:57:32.320 --> 00:57:34.440
<v Speaker 2>that if you look at the picture, they were and

981
00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:37.639
<v Speaker 2>they were drinking water and they were breathing that vapor.

982
00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:41.840
<v Speaker 2>And the vapor was a radioactive actually because it didn't

983
00:57:41.880 --> 00:57:45.119
<v Speaker 2>have the gum radiation, but it has the alpha radiation

984
00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:50.599
<v Speaker 2>fallow the alpha radiation source. It will irradiate you from

985
00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:51.679
<v Speaker 2>inside the body.

986
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Right, That's what I was asking about. And you take

987
00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:55.079
<v Speaker 1>it in yeah.

988
00:57:55.000 --> 00:57:57.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And that's why and that's why many people

989
00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:02.159
<v Speaker 2>they get different kind of cancers. So somebody because the

990
00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:04.840
<v Speaker 2>lung con alpha.

991
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Radiation gave them these cancers in the in the blood

992
00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:12.840
<v Speaker 1>and the lungs and then and all that. Yeah, okay,

993
00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:15.199
<v Speaker 1>so and believe it or not, I'm one of the

994
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:18.519
<v Speaker 1>people who was sending gloves and those paper maks. They

995
00:58:18.519 --> 00:58:21.519
<v Speaker 1>told us to send those paper masks that people use,

996
00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:23.960
<v Speaker 1>like say if they're painting, so they don't breathe in paint,

997
00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:27.199
<v Speaker 1>you know. They told us to send the paper masks

998
00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:29.840
<v Speaker 1>and gloves so they could cover their hands. And we

999
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:33.480
<v Speaker 1>were also I personally sent in probably one hundred or

1000
00:58:33.480 --> 00:58:36.920
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty cases of water myself to get

1001
00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:38.920
<v Speaker 1>water to these guys so they had something to drink

1002
00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:41.400
<v Speaker 1>while they were there. This is stuff we were sending

1003
00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:43.840
<v Speaker 1>in because they kept saying they didn't even have supplies

1004
00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:47.159
<v Speaker 1>enough for everybody that was trying to do this in

1005
00:58:47.239 --> 00:58:52.039
<v Speaker 1>the first couple of weeks, you know, directly. So, so

1006
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I sent some of those paper masks you see on TV.

1007
00:58:55.039 --> 00:58:57.480
<v Speaker 1>I sent some of the gloves, the work gloves and things,

1008
00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:01.639
<v Speaker 1>because their work gloves were melting, ruined and they needed

1009
00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:05.400
<v Speaker 1>new ones. And you know, try not to cut their hands. Well,

1010
00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:09.000
<v Speaker 1>they literally dug through some of the piles with their hands, Okay,

1011
00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:12.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, And I'm just thinking, I'm trying to help,

1012
00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:14.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, because.

1013
00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:19.079
<v Speaker 2>How grave is the violation if some were if some

1014
00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:27.039
<v Speaker 2>people work in the place of a recent nuclear explosion. Uh,

1015
00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:31.119
<v Speaker 2>let's a hidden radiation control that is concerned with the

1016
00:59:31.159 --> 00:59:34.480
<v Speaker 2>only gum radiation is not enough. The people must be

1017
00:59:34.519 --> 00:59:37.159
<v Speaker 2>aware of what they are doing. So they must be

1018
00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:40.519
<v Speaker 2>aware of the danger. So they must wear the whole

1019
00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:44.199
<v Speaker 2>body protective like has much suit. The real guests must.

1020
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:47.000
<v Speaker 2>And after they finished the work at the dangerous area,

1021
00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:50.440
<v Speaker 2>they have to take a shower. I mean, they must

1022
00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:53.280
<v Speaker 2>really clean their body. I mean they have to take

1023
00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:55.840
<v Speaker 2>shower before remove removing the has much suit.

1024
00:59:56.119 --> 00:59:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there has to be. They do like a chemical

1025
00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:01.199
<v Speaker 1>shower on them. This is like when you come out

1026
01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:03.719
<v Speaker 1>of a lab, so that you don't spread an see.

1027
01:00:03.760 --> 01:00:06.440
<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing is. At the time, even a

1028
01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:09.519
<v Speaker 1>lot of us got angry in that area because not

1029
01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:13.000
<v Speaker 1>because we knew anything about radiation, but because in our opinion,

1030
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:15.360
<v Speaker 1>they were letting these guys in there and it wasn't

1031
01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:18.199
<v Speaker 1>safe just because of the bad air quality, you know,

1032
01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:21.639
<v Speaker 1>because there was just so much of this crap in

1033
01:00:21.679 --> 01:00:24.559
<v Speaker 1>the air that you could see it, you know, and

1034
01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:27.599
<v Speaker 1>they're telling you, no, it's safe, you know, And I

1035
01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:30.159
<v Speaker 1>say that, you know, anybody who even you want to

1036
01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:33.480
<v Speaker 1>believe the official story, fine, whatever, but you got to

1037
01:00:33.599 --> 01:00:37.039
<v Speaker 1>admit that at the very least, our government was lying

1038
01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:40.639
<v Speaker 1>to us about this is safe, because we had government

1039
01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:44.559
<v Speaker 1>agencies and even the former governor of New Jersey working

1040
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:48.079
<v Speaker 1>for the EPA at the time, was making public announcements

1041
01:00:48.159 --> 01:00:52.480
<v Speaker 1>that it is safe to be there, that it's safe

1042
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:55.719
<v Speaker 1>to work in that area. And I said, at the time,

1043
01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:58.840
<v Speaker 1>nobody's sick at you know, Dmitri, nobody's even sick yet.

1044
01:00:59.239 --> 01:01:01.159
<v Speaker 1>But I said in and the other said at the time,

1045
01:01:01.239 --> 01:01:04.360
<v Speaker 1>this is a lie. They're lying to us. And what

1046
01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:06.079
<v Speaker 1>do we do. I mean, we can't not try to

1047
01:01:06.119 --> 01:01:08.960
<v Speaker 1>save people or you know, leave people behind, and this

1048
01:01:09.039 --> 01:01:11.880
<v Speaker 1>has to be dealt with. But this is not safe.

1049
01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:13.719
<v Speaker 1>There must be a safe way to deal and we

1050
01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:17.119
<v Speaker 1>were just dealing with the air quality, you understand. So

1051
01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:19.880
<v Speaker 1>to me, it's like, that's proof positive, no matter what

1052
01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:24.920
<v Speaker 1>story you believe, that we were lied to by our government. Absolutely,

1053
01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:27.800
<v Speaker 1>that is a guarant You cannot dispute me that we

1054
01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:32.159
<v Speaker 1>were lied to regarding this. Now when it comes to

1055
01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:34.519
<v Speaker 1>nuclear you know, I'm not sure what to think of

1056
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<v Speaker 1>all of what you've said, you know, And I take

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01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:39.719
<v Speaker 1>the idea that we have the testimony from two people

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01:01:39.719 --> 01:01:44.599
<v Speaker 1>in a unique position to inform us about this. That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>But again I say, there must be some independent way

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01:01:49.159 --> 01:01:53.360
<v Speaker 1>that somebody could just prove. Look, the only way that

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01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:56.960
<v Speaker 1>this or this happens too would be because of a

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01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:01.400
<v Speaker 1>nuclear device. And outside of these cab right, is there

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01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:05.679
<v Speaker 1>some other way, something else that's publicly observable that people

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01:02:05.679 --> 01:02:07.559
<v Speaker 1>could look at and say, you know what, that is

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01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:11.079
<v Speaker 1>proved positive? Right there? Of course, the only way that

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01:02:11.079 --> 01:02:13.880
<v Speaker 1>that happens is and I've already talked to you for

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01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:15.719
<v Speaker 1>quite a while tonight, so I don't want to keep

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01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:18.960
<v Speaker 1>you well all morning for you because it's morning time.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to get this question because otherwise I

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01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:24.880
<v Speaker 2>might forget it to the next part. Please, I will

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01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:27.440
<v Speaker 2>tell you why. I will tell you what I remember

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01:02:27.639 --> 01:02:30.039
<v Speaker 2>and which is important, and the rest we can continue

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01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:31.039
<v Speaker 2>next time if you want.

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<v Speaker 1>You got it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, you know that underground nuclear explosion of one

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01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:42.079
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty kiloton, which is a huge actually it

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01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:48.159
<v Speaker 2>will create a kind of earthquake shaking off the ground. Okay,

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01:02:48.199 --> 01:02:51.000
<v Speaker 2>So before the demolition of the each of the three

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01:02:51.159 --> 01:02:56.159
<v Speaker 2>towers and the Building seven, that was earth shaking which

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01:02:56.639 --> 01:03:01.519
<v Speaker 2>correspond I mean by magnitude, that corresponded to the particularly

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01:03:01.519 --> 01:03:03.800
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty kilo on nuclear explorer.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you're saying is that if we look back,

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01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:12.320
<v Speaker 1>we could find seismic activity in that area.

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01:03:12.719 --> 01:03:17.000
<v Speaker 2>No, you can find the seismic activity only by if

1085
01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:20.519
<v Speaker 2>you find a life witness who remembered that, and there

1086
01:03:20.519 --> 01:03:23.920
<v Speaker 2>are few who remember that. But if you are looking

1087
01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:27.760
<v Speaker 2>for the official seismograms, you will not find them because

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01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:31.320
<v Speaker 2>they are classified because the American government want to hide

1089
01:03:31.360 --> 01:03:34.719
<v Speaker 2>the truth about the nuclear demolition, so they classified all

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01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:36.039
<v Speaker 2>the dangerous evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, So you would need an independent source if

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01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:43.800
<v Speaker 1>somebody was independently recording these or a foreign government, another

1093
01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:48.079
<v Speaker 1>government might have a recording of this, shouldn't somebody else? Yeah,

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01:03:48.519 --> 01:03:49.119
<v Speaker 1>what about that?

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01:03:49.239 --> 01:03:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but again again, because the American governments, using the

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01:03:55.159 --> 01:04:01.360
<v Speaker 2>United Nations organizations, made the like they have like a

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01:04:01.440 --> 01:04:04.679
<v Speaker 2>deal with the rest of the world government that no

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01:04:04.760 --> 01:04:07.519
<v Speaker 2>one will, no member of the United Nations will ever

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01:04:07.559 --> 01:04:14.920
<v Speaker 2>criticize the proceeds of the nine to eleven project, let's

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01:04:14.920 --> 01:04:19.559
<v Speaker 2>say crime. So you see that even the countries that

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01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:23.800
<v Speaker 2>are posing themselves as extremely anti American, like a Cuba

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01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:28.559
<v Speaker 2>or North Korea or Iran, or Russia or Brazil, will

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01:04:28.559 --> 01:04:31.679
<v Speaker 2>not talk about it because that was the deal with

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01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:34.920
<v Speaker 2>the United Nations. So that, for example, if the Russian

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01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:40.280
<v Speaker 2>seismograms of the Chinese saysmograms of Brazilian saysmograms showing the

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01:04:40.360 --> 01:04:45.519
<v Speaker 2>nuclear explosions in Manhattan available, of course they are available,

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01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:48.840
<v Speaker 2>but they are classified and they kept secret, so it

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01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:53.920
<v Speaker 2>means you can't get them. But what you can get,

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01:04:54.280 --> 01:04:57.599
<v Speaker 2>you can get the testimonial of life witnesses who remember

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01:04:57.760 --> 01:05:02.840
<v Speaker 2>the earthquake I mean of the earth wey will and

1111
01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:06.480
<v Speaker 2>in fact, they would record it, and they will officially recorded,

1112
01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:09.480
<v Speaker 2>and they have a few testimonials of the witness who

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01:05:09.559 --> 01:05:12.159
<v Speaker 2>remember the shaking of the ground before the collapse of

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01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:15.480
<v Speaker 2>the ischue of the towers, and they are officially recorded

1115
01:05:15.519 --> 01:05:17.519
<v Speaker 2>and they are published and if you want, they consent

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01:05:17.639 --> 01:05:18.599
<v Speaker 2>them to you.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'd love to see that as a look all

1118
01:05:20.440 --> 01:05:22.440
<v Speaker 1>this stuff that you said you could show me, I'd

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01:05:22.480 --> 01:05:26.000
<v Speaker 1>love to see it, for sure, because it's great to have,

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01:05:26.199 --> 01:05:29.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, more evidence to work with to evaluate this, right,

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01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:33.440
<v Speaker 1>you know. And the thing is, it's just amazing to

1122
01:05:33.519 --> 01:05:37.719
<v Speaker 1>me because all of these different countries that could have

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01:05:37.880 --> 01:05:42.039
<v Speaker 1>there are many independent scientists that could have recorded this

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01:05:42.239 --> 01:05:44.920
<v Speaker 1>and could come forward and say this, and yet we

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01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:48.800
<v Speaker 1>don't hear you know, I've heard this talked about before.

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01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:52.199
<v Speaker 1>But I would like to see some way somebody must

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01:05:52.239 --> 01:05:55.719
<v Speaker 1>have it, some way that they could present this somehow,

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01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:57.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, because like I said, other people keep track

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01:05:57.960 --> 01:06:00.599
<v Speaker 1>of earthquakes that are not I mean, most of them

1130
01:06:00.599 --> 01:06:04.039
<v Speaker 1>are government funded, but there's got to be some independent

1131
01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:07.199
<v Speaker 1>university somewhere in the world that has to have been

1132
01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:10.880
<v Speaker 1>keeping track of seismic activity. Back then that would have

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01:06:10.960 --> 01:06:14.360
<v Speaker 1>this somehow possibly. So I'm wondering, you know, is there

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01:06:14.760 --> 01:06:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any idea about how we can discover

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01:06:16.880 --> 01:06:18.639
<v Speaker 1>that you think? I mean, I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, I remember that soon after nine to eleven there

1137
01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:29.920
<v Speaker 2>were two published two seismogram supposedly by some university seismic

1138
01:06:31.199 --> 01:06:34.920
<v Speaker 2>station I forgot the name, but not far from New York.

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01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:38.480
<v Speaker 2>The problem is that they were free because instead of

1140
01:06:38.519 --> 01:06:42.840
<v Speaker 2>publishing the seismogram that shows a nuclear explosion of one

1141
01:06:42.920 --> 01:06:46.360
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty kilot on under the three buildings Building one, two,

1142
01:06:46.400 --> 01:06:51.639
<v Speaker 2>and seven, they published two saysmograms that were showing supposedly

1143
01:06:52.679 --> 01:06:55.719
<v Speaker 2>two explosions of the mini nukes I mean, like portable

1144
01:06:55.800 --> 01:06:59.880
<v Speaker 2>nuclear devices, probably one kilot on each under the tinta,

1145
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:04.000
<v Speaker 2>but not under the building seven. That means it's a

1146
01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:06.599
<v Speaker 2>fake at it so means you cannot trust these kind

1147
01:07:06.639 --> 01:07:10.920
<v Speaker 2>of things, because they can publish figs on the order

1148
01:07:11.239 --> 01:07:15.159
<v Speaker 2>of them of the US government, or they might publish

1149
01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:18.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they might hide the original one again on

1150
01:07:18.360 --> 01:07:20.960
<v Speaker 2>the orders of the US government. You just cannot believe them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and let me ask you one last question and

1152
01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:26.599
<v Speaker 1>then we'll stop for tonight, because I mean this is

1153
01:07:26.639 --> 01:07:29.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot, and we could keep asking questions and going

1154
01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:32.079
<v Speaker 1>through things. I mean, there's many different ways to go here.

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01:07:32.599 --> 01:07:35.760
<v Speaker 1>And I hope you, uh, you know you don't find

1156
01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:38.159
<v Speaker 1>this aggravating to go through these questions with me because

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01:07:38.159 --> 01:07:38.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm asking.

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<v Speaker 2>I will be very happy to answer questions. I mean,

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01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:44.719
<v Speaker 2>if you, if your listeners have any questions, I will

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01:07:44.719 --> 01:07:46.000
<v Speaker 2>answer them, no problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, no. Look, anybody wants to write to me

1162
01:07:48.599 --> 01:07:52.039
<v Speaker 1>and give me some questions for Dmitri, I can probably

1163
01:07:52.079 --> 01:07:55.079
<v Speaker 1>invite him back and I will be more than happy

1164
01:07:55.159 --> 01:07:58.760
<v Speaker 1>to give him every question you asked. It's reasonable, guys, okay, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Ill that I can answer questions not only about the

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01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:06.559
<v Speaker 2>nuclear demolition of the Twin Towers Building seven. I can

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01:08:06.719 --> 01:08:10.119
<v Speaker 2>explain to you, firstly the mechanics how to use the

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01:08:10.280 --> 01:08:14.599
<v Speaker 2>underground nuclear explosion to transform still into the still dust.

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01:08:14.639 --> 01:08:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I can explain that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, see I want to hear, yeah, I want to

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01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:18.279
<v Speaker 1>hear about that.

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01:08:18.439 --> 01:08:22.760
<v Speaker 2>I can explain also why they demolished the twin towers,

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01:08:22.840 --> 01:08:25.720
<v Speaker 2>because to demolish them with one thing, but to explain

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01:08:26.039 --> 01:08:28.680
<v Speaker 2>why they demoorishes is another thing. This I also going

1175
01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:31.960
<v Speaker 2>to explain. And I can explain what happened with the

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01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Pentagon and with the planes that were shot down during

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01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:38.239
<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven, what happened with the flight seventy seven,

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01:08:38.359 --> 01:08:41.039
<v Speaker 2>for example, right, I mean, we I get I can

1179
01:08:41.119 --> 01:08:42.039
<v Speaker 2>answer many questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I always felt as though the plane in Pennsylvania,

1181
01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:48.119
<v Speaker 1>what was left planted and you know, crashed in Pennsylvania.

1182
01:08:48.439 --> 01:08:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I've always felt that that was shot down the Pentagon.

1183
01:08:51.760 --> 01:08:53.399
<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of questions about and that's a

1184
01:08:53.439 --> 01:08:57.239
<v Speaker 1>separate issue from this thing. But the last question I

1185
01:08:57.239 --> 01:08:59.319
<v Speaker 1>want to ask you tonight, and this is it right,

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01:09:00.159 --> 01:09:02.920
<v Speaker 1>is Look, we knew that, Okay, you knew that there

1187
01:09:02.920 --> 01:09:06.720
<v Speaker 1>were these three devices here. Obviously, three buildings were wired

1188
01:09:06.760 --> 01:09:10.680
<v Speaker 1>to go this way? Is there any more of these

1189
01:09:10.720 --> 01:09:13.119
<v Speaker 1>in New York that you know of? I mean, is

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01:09:13.159 --> 01:09:13.800
<v Speaker 1>it possible?

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01:09:14.520 --> 01:09:19.079
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm sure that after nine to eleven this

1192
01:09:19.399 --> 01:09:24.039
<v Speaker 2>kind of demolition idea was considered as a complete disaster.

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01:09:25.039 --> 01:09:29.319
<v Speaker 2>They just removed this every way, including Malaysia, Japan, Korea,

1194
01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:32.880
<v Speaker 2>and the United Arab Emirates, and of course in America everywhere.

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01:09:33.159 --> 01:09:36.079
<v Speaker 2>They removed it from the United Nations Building, they removed

1196
01:09:36.079 --> 01:09:38.720
<v Speaker 2>it from the Ciscar Tower in Chicago, and from the

1197
01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:42.000
<v Speaker 2>rest of the building's where it wasn't They just forgot

1198
01:09:42.079 --> 01:09:45.600
<v Speaker 2>it like like a nightmare. Okay, and they classified all

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01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:49.199
<v Speaker 2>the things that were officially available, and so you can

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01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:52.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean they removed everything. Now it's normal.

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01:09:52.560 --> 01:09:54.960
<v Speaker 1>So that means that basically what you're telling me is

1202
01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:57.960
<v Speaker 1>that they figure it failed. They removed everything. That's the

1203
01:09:58.079 --> 01:10:02.039
<v Speaker 1>end of that. But that's pretty wild because in order

1204
01:10:02.079 --> 01:10:03.520
<v Speaker 1>to do that, I mean, that had to be a

1205
01:10:03.560 --> 01:10:06.960
<v Speaker 1>difficult thing to do quietly. Number one, but number two.

1206
01:10:07.920 --> 01:10:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Remove that now it almost makes me a little bit

1207
01:10:10.680 --> 01:10:14.840
<v Speaker 1>nervous about what did they put in its place? You know,

1208
01:10:15.079 --> 01:10:17.119
<v Speaker 1>when you have one bad This is one thing I've

1209
01:10:17.159 --> 01:10:19.720
<v Speaker 1>learned about studying the American government when they do stuff

1210
01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:22.359
<v Speaker 1>like this, is that they come up with a bad idea,

1211
01:10:22.479 --> 01:10:24.760
<v Speaker 1>they try it, they find out it's a bad idea.

1212
01:10:25.119 --> 01:10:27.000
<v Speaker 1>You know what they usually do. Dimitri has come up

1213
01:10:27.039 --> 01:10:32.640
<v Speaker 1>with a worse idea and it gets worse somehow. You know, Oh,

1214
01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:34.800
<v Speaker 1>well let's try and you know, kill all of the

1215
01:10:35.079 --> 01:10:38.560
<v Speaker 1>vegetation in Vietnam. Also, we'll do this thing Silver Popeye

1216
01:10:38.600 --> 01:10:41.039
<v Speaker 1>will try to control the weather. And then it got worse.

1217
01:10:41.239 --> 01:10:43.439
<v Speaker 1>You know, well that didn't work out so well? How

1218
01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:46.760
<v Speaker 1>about Agent Orange Vietnam? I'm just talking about. So that's

1219
01:10:46.800 --> 01:10:50.600
<v Speaker 1>something you know, fifty years ago already. But still it

1220
01:10:50.720 --> 01:10:53.159
<v Speaker 1>just seems to me like one bad idea quite often

1221
01:10:53.239 --> 01:10:55.960
<v Speaker 1>leads to an even worse idea when it comes to

1222
01:10:56.239 --> 01:10:59.960
<v Speaker 1>secret projects. And obviously this would be something that had

1223
01:11:00.159 --> 01:11:02.800
<v Speaker 1>been secret because most people have never heard of this

1224
01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:06.039
<v Speaker 1>at all, and you know, and I'm not even sure

1225
01:11:06.039 --> 01:11:08.920
<v Speaker 1>what to think of it because it sounds just far out,

1226
01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:11.239
<v Speaker 1>and it's hard for me to swallow this, you know,

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01:11:11.319 --> 01:11:14.600
<v Speaker 1>this idea. Uh, and the micro nukes, I never believed.

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01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:17.119
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was just stupid. You know, that made

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01:11:17.239 --> 01:11:19.800
<v Speaker 1>no sense to me. This, you know, these little, these

1230
01:11:19.840 --> 01:11:22.479
<v Speaker 1>miniature thing. I'm like, come on, you're going to go

1231
01:11:22.520 --> 01:11:25.319
<v Speaker 1>through all that trouble. Why not, you know, just do

1232
01:11:25.439 --> 01:11:28.600
<v Speaker 1>what you say they did, which makes more sense. One

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01:11:28.720 --> 01:11:31.399
<v Speaker 1>singular device that you know is going to get the

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01:11:31.479 --> 01:11:33.319
<v Speaker 1>job done, as opposed to all these I mean, it

1235
01:11:33.479 --> 01:11:36.960
<v Speaker 1>just made no sense to me. But anyway, a lot

1236
01:11:36.960 --> 01:11:39.760
<v Speaker 1>of things don't make sense to me. And sometimes they

1237
01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:42.119
<v Speaker 1>are they turn out to be the real thing, and

1238
01:11:42.359 --> 01:11:45.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, other times they're somebody's crazy theory and they're

1239
01:11:45.720 --> 01:11:49.520
<v Speaker 1>not real. But even the real things end up sounding

1240
01:11:49.560 --> 01:11:52.159
<v Speaker 1>crazy to me. And that's just me, so again I

1241
01:11:52.159 --> 01:11:54.039
<v Speaker 1>want to point out guys that you can go and

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01:11:54.079 --> 01:11:56.800
<v Speaker 1>take a look at Dmitri's work. All the links will

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01:11:56.840 --> 01:11:58.680
<v Speaker 1>be with the show notes and I'm gonna drop them

1244
01:11:58.720 --> 01:12:01.680
<v Speaker 1>in the live chat room at O'Kelley dot matter of fact,

1245
01:12:01.680 --> 01:12:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do it right now. But before I do,

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01:12:04.039 --> 01:12:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to remind you again in audio form that if

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01:12:07.039 --> 01:12:11.199
<v Speaker 1>you go to a nine one onethology, which is nine

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01:12:11.279 --> 01:12:15.560
<v Speaker 1>one one t H O L O g y dot com. Okay,

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01:12:15.640 --> 01:12:17.560
<v Speaker 1>that's one website you can go to to take a

1250
01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:20.800
<v Speaker 1>look at Dmitri's work. You can also go to YouTube

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01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:25.319
<v Speaker 1>and at Dmitri d I M I t r I

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01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:31.079
<v Speaker 1>Kalizov k h A L E z O v okay

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01:12:31.159 --> 01:12:35.239
<v Speaker 1>at Dmitri Kalizov on YouTube. And I also have another

1254
01:12:35.319 --> 01:12:37.960
<v Speaker 1>link here which I have a short link for it,

1255
01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:39.760
<v Speaker 1>but you go to his telegram and if you're signed

1256
01:12:39.800 --> 01:12:42.760
<v Speaker 1>into telegram, uh because I just went there and tried

1257
01:12:42.800 --> 01:12:45.600
<v Speaker 1>to quick access it. But if you're signed into telegram,

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01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:48.119
<v Speaker 1>the short link will take you right there and you

1259
01:12:48.159 --> 01:12:51.840
<v Speaker 1>can examine dmitri stuff on telegram. And that's for These

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01:12:51.880 --> 01:12:54.960
<v Speaker 1>are all the English speaking channels right basically, or do

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<v Speaker 1>they have both Russian ending.

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<v Speaker 2>I have the ACE also, but the I said that's one.

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<v Speaker 2>Will you have some about this in them?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, these are all the English channels for Dmitri, so

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<v Speaker 1>he also has channels in Russian, and UH be more

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<v Speaker 1>than happy for him to use tonight's discussion which we

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<v Speaker 1>have recorded on video, and you guys are getting the

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<v Speaker 1>audio podcast the Ocell Effect audience, you're getting the audio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've given the video to Dmitri and he can

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<v Speaker 1>place it up on his channels and do whatever he

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<v Speaker 1>wants with it, and hopefully he will and you guys

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<v Speaker 1>will go there and see me on his channel soon.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, Dmitri, I want to thank you for
